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schestowitz | "I would have thought the complex web of licensing would have done them in by now, but I've learned one can't overestimate the suffering people will endure to stick with the devil they know then risk the angel they don't. " | Mar 10 09:00 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1400318 | Mar 10 09:00 |
TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 is an exercise in how quickly the Windows franchise can be killed off http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2158452/microsoft-goes-charm-offensive worse than Vista | Mar 10 09:00 |
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schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120307/08042718011/future-journalism-doesnt-have-head-office.shtml | Mar 10 09:41 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: The Future Of Journalism Doesn't Have A Head Office | Techdirt .::. Size~: 78.54 KB | Mar 10 09:41 |
schestowitz | "the Huffington Post is not the head office of modern journalism." | Mar 10 09:41 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/03/tony_blair_rsa/ | Mar 10 10:00 |
schestowitz | > RSA 2012 Former British Prime Minister Anthony Charles Lynton Blair | Mar 10 10:00 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Tony Blair closes RSA 2012, denounces WikiLeaks • The Register .::. Size~: 25.96 KB | Mar 10 10:00 |
schestowitz | > was RSA's pick to close out their annual security conference in San | Mar 10 10:00 |
schestowitz | > Francisco, and he took the opportunity to bash WikiLeaks as | Mar 10 10:00 |
schestowitz | > "disgraceful." | Mar 10 10:00 |
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XFaCE | schestowitz: Tony Blair dennouncing something is hilarious | Mar 10 14:31 |
MinceR | rsa sucks | Mar 10 14:32 |
MinceR | (the company, that is) | Mar 10 14:32 |
MinceR | securid is a joke | Mar 10 14:33 |
XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlpyGhABXRA | Mar 10 15:19 |
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MinceR | lol | Mar 10 16:31 |
schestowitz | yeah, vclassic | Mar 10 16:47 |
qu1j0t3 | wow | Mar 10 17:08 |
qu1j0t3 | disgraceful | Mar 10 17:08 |
qu1j0t3 | LOL | Mar 10 17:08 |
qu1j0t3 | but wars, lies, and theft is fine eh Blair | Mar 10 17:08 |
qu1j0t3 | rich man of peace | Mar 10 17:09 |
qu1j0t3 | (but where did the money come from?) | Mar 10 17:09 |
MinceR | violating the laws of the country you're in charge of to push it into war is a-ok | Mar 10 17:09 |
MinceR | he has some sort of inverse morality | Mar 10 17:10 |
qu1j0t3 | not just him | Mar 10 17:10 |
qu1j0t3 | :| | Mar 10 17:10 |
schestowitz | Today was a very social day for me. I was trying to meet some friends who are very clueful because I am making some very important decisions these days. | Mar 10 17:10 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Blair is a tool | Mar 10 17:10 |
schestowitz | The faith groups love him | Mar 10 17:11 |
XFaCE | decisions like what? | Mar 10 17:11 |
schestowitz | He's divisive, vs. realists | Mar 10 17:11 |
qu1j0t3 | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8728371/MI5-told-Blair-Iraq-was-no-threat-to-UK.html | Mar 10 17:11 |
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schestowitz | mediates among groups that are intolerent | Mar 10 17:11 |
schestowitz | he's tolerant towards the intolerant | Mar 10 17:11 |
schestowitz | Like racists who want people to be tolereant towards their intolerence, like Santurum | Mar 10 17:11 |
XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyexKUSKFW0 | Mar 10 17:11 |
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qu1j0t3 | https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/178528429866614785 | Mar 10 17:12 |
TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: Tony Blair, who took #UK to #Iraq [http://t.co/JBhCcOoc], thinks @wikileaks is "disgraceful". Shall we look into where his money comes from? | Mar 10 17:12 |
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qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Blair is worse than a tool. | Mar 10 17:12 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he should be behind bars. for the term of his natural life. | Mar 10 17:12 |
schestowitz | yeah | Mar 10 17:12 |
schestowitz | b'liar | Mar 10 17:13 |
schestowitz | as RMS calls him | Mar 10 17:13 |
schestowitz | This afternoon I met my friend Prof. Brookes, who visits Asia several times per year and has been to HK about 50 times (he goes to China again next month). He explained to me all about nations in the East from many perspectives - people, lifestyle, jobs, weather, family values. | Mar 10 17:13 |
schestowitz | I might consider going somewhere without Tony.. :-) | Mar 10 17:13 |
schestowitz | It is always curious to hear the opinion of people with background similar to my own (I have known this man for a decade, he is retired now) and it helps makes rational decisions based on another person's judgment and experience, including awareness of my own character. | Mar 10 17:13 |
schestowitz | So, Chris Brookes spoke of how in Singapore the official language is English and in fact it is spoken better than in here. He also is impressed with Shanghai and states that HK is super-expensive, yet an area of constant expansion. | Mar 10 17:14 |
schestowitz | We also spoke about sports in the area and what's preferred in that respect. Other than that, today I did some exercise and swam, then rushed back home. Mike was called in to work on Saturday, which he was obviously upset about. Some people's employers abuse their workforce like this. Not that it's any different in other countries... | Mar 10 17:14 |
schestowitz | My friend Jimmy and I then had a conversation mostly about HK because this is the place he knows and some of of his friends are going there (he says it's not so expensive if one lives outside the main areas, which are mostly for financial markets). | Mar 10 17:15 |
schestowitz | David, who is near his retirement age (I have known him for almost a decade too and he loved talking with me), spoke of expansion in Asia as well. He is a big businessman her and he travels to Asia a lot. | Mar 10 17:16 |
schestowitz | I had to rush back because I got caught up in a very long conversation with him - and he's very time-conscious by the way, not when it comes to topics like these. | Mar 10 17:16 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1400094 | Mar 10 17:17 |
TechrightsSocial | Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 10 17:17 |
schestowitz | "the masses of the social networks :) " | Mar 10 17:17 |
XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FydRT6_YaHc&feature=fvwrel | Mar 10 17:18 |
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XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyXE54V4jTY&feature=relmfu | Mar 10 17:19 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: I'm a PM - Dead Ringers - BBC - YouTube .::. Size~: 121.47 KB | Mar 10 17:19 |
schestowitz | BBC? | Mar 10 17:39 |
schestowitz | XFaCE: ehehe | Mar 10 17:42 |
schestowitz | XFaCE: the military is draining budgets now | Mar 10 17:42 |
schestowitz | I saw a video today | Mar 10 17:42 |
schestowitz | about how we're being deluded and deceived into thinking that over-spending caused the crisis | Mar 10 17:43 |
schestowitz | As if it's people's own greed | Mar 10 17:43 |
schestowitz | when in fact a lot of the deficit comes from Bush-like tax cuts | Mar 10 17:43 |
schestowitz | trillions in losses there | Mar 10 17:43 |
schestowitz | and wars | Mar 10 17:43 |
schestowitz | the US is about to cut those down | Mar 10 17:43 |
XFaCE | schestowitz: Cenk: OF COUURRRSE! | Mar 10 17:43 |
schestowitz | While China raises spendings in "defence" | Mar 10 17:43 |
schestowitz | Fall of anempire.. | Mar 10 17:43 |
XFaCE | Are we the next Rome to fall? | Mar 10 17:44 |
schestowitz | Well, it's a slow process | Mar 10 17:44 |
schestowitz | I think it's already falling and has been falling since the 90s | Mar 10 17:44 |
XFaCE | Will we fall back into the dark ages of superstition and ignorance and fear? | Mar 10 17:44 |
schestowitz | This is why I am thinking about moving to somewhere like HK | Mar 10 17:44 |
schestowitz | Maybe Singapore | Mar 10 17:44 |
XFaCE | schestowitz: why not switzerland? | Mar 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | I can't | Mar 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | my grandma is from ther | Mar 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | but I don't have Swiss nationality through her | Mar 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3 tired moving there | Mar 10 17:45 |
XFaCE | ah | Mar 10 17:45 |
schestowitz | if only if was part of the EU.. | Mar 10 17:46 |
schestowitz | The EU is collapsing too | Mar 10 17:46 |
XFaCE | move to Scotland and spend the final days of civilisation with thistleweb | Mar 10 17:46 |
schestowitz | austerity... hurting the poorest people | Mar 10 17:46 |
schestowitz | and the currency in crisis, inter-nation bailouts | Mar 10 17:46 |
schestowitz | Scotland - what's to do there? | Mar 10 17:46 |
schestowitz | just as rainy as in here, only colder | Mar 10 17:47 |
XFaCE | schestowitz: better accents | Mar 10 17:47 |
XFaCE | I'd love to hear you with a Scottish accent :D | Mar 10 17:47 |
schestowitz | Better if I'm up for a challenge :-) | Mar 10 17:47 |
schestowitz | I can do one | Mar 10 17:47 |
schestowitz | but not many sentences | Mar 10 17:47 |
schestowitz | then it starts sounding Russian | Mar 10 17:47 |
schestowitz | XFaCE: Scotland is nice, but it's just part of GB | Mar 10 17:48 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: well, i tried getting a job there. :| | Mar 10 17:48 |
XFaCE | maybe not for longf | Mar 10 17:48 |
schestowitz | I spoke to a cab driver the other day about how the economy affects them | Mar 10 17:49 |
XFaCE | remember, the nationalists are in charge | Mar 10 17:49 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: if i really focused on europe i could get hired and move, but it doesn't make sense for us right now | Mar 10 17:49 |
XFaCE | lead by a Canadian | Mar 10 17:49 |
XFaCE | bbl | Mar 10 17:49 |
schestowitz | GB will always be great for the upper class, not so fun for the rest | Mar 10 17:49 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: why not? | Mar 10 17:49 |
schestowitz | BTW, there's an opening in the company where I work | Mar 10 17:49 |
schestowitz | you can move to London immediately | Mar 10 17:50 |
schestowitz | They asked us to recommend folks | Mar 10 17:50 |
qu1j0t3 | right, but it's not the right timing for us... | Mar 10 17:50 |
schestowitz | university for the wife? | Mar 10 17:50 |
qu1j0t3 | $WIFE is in degree course | Mar 10 17:50 |
schestowitz | yeah | Mar 10 17:50 |
qu1j0t3 | yeah | Mar 10 17:50 |
qu1j0t3 | also, the climate wouldn't excite her much. southern europe is ideal | Mar 10 17:50 |
schestowitz | well, if you ever want to make a move, I can probably help | Mar 10 17:50 |
schestowitz | Canadian weather is not too great, either | Mar 10 17:51 |
qu1j0t3 | right, not ideal, but if we're relocating, we want to improve that | Mar 10 17:51 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: many in s amrica can claim Spanish or Italian citizenship, I recently learned | Mar 10 17:51 |
qu1j0t3 | so we have medium term plans. | Mar 10 17:51 |
schestowitz | something about ancestry | Mar 10 17:51 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes and german | Mar 10 17:51 |
schestowitz | which nations? | Mar 10 17:51 |
qu1j0t3 | italian and german settlements in brazil; probably in other SA nations too. | Mar 10 17:52 |
schestowitz | I heard today of a loophole there, my friend told me it's being exploited | Mar 10 17:52 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: why would you two think of southern Euorope though? | Mar 10 17:53 |
schestowitz | I mean, what nations there is doing well? | Mar 10 17:53 |
schestowitz | I have a mate here who moved part time to Spain | Mar 10 17:53 |
schestowitz | He says it's in the ***er | Mar 10 17:53 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: portugal, spain. | Mar 10 17:53 |
schestowitz | Italy and Greece do poorly too | Mar 10 17:53 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'd be open to greece | Mar 10 17:53 |
schestowitz | bankrupt | Mar 10 17:53 |
schestowitz | part of P.I.G.S. | Mar 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | Canada is better off | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | sure, but i'm not really concerned about tht. | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | that* | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes and no. | Mar 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | people flock FROM Spain and .pt to .ca | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | yes they do, but ... | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | they're doing it out of ignorance. | Mar 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | I see... but not sure why | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | like 99% of north american immigrants. | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | they do it based on assumptions | Mar 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | And also, what do you think of the far east? | Mar 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | I planned to move there in 2009 | Mar 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | Changed my mind | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | there are many portuguese immigrants in our area. | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | i am not convinced they're doing better | Mar 10 17:54 |
qu1j0t3 | it's a subsistence life here for them. | Mar 10 17:55 |
qu1j0t3 | ditto Australia: they are discriminated against. | Mar 10 17:55 |
qu1j0t3 | always were. | Mar 10 17:55 |
qu1j0t3 | far east? which part? | Mar 10 17:55 |
schestowitz | the richer parts | Mar 10 17:57 |
schestowitz | financial centres | Mar 10 17:57 |
schestowitz | think HK and Singapore | Mar 10 17:57 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: Today I completed the 8th stage of the Mr. Fitness competition. I did well and I listened to Brazilian music throughout. | Mar 10 18:19 |
schestowitz | my favourite genre of bosa nova | Mar 10 18:19 |
qu1j0t3 | heh | Mar 10 18:24 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i find HK, Singapore, etc, completely unappealing. i don't think i could deal with the pollution, apart from anything else. | Mar 10 18:24 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: south east asia has some appeal to me though. | Mar 10 18:25 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'm tired of cities, too. | Mar 10 18:25 |
schestowitz | I was told today that Bangkok is where pollution is a problem | Mar 10 18:30 |
schestowitz | And also told that Hanoi is not all that bad | Mar 10 18:30 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: yeah, cities are needed for some jobs though | Mar 10 18:30 |
schestowitz | Unless you can work over the Web | Mar 10 18:30 |
schestowitz | for fast internet too a place near a centre may be needed | Mar 10 18:31 |
schestowitz | I'm actually chatting with OH about it right now | Mar 10 18:35 |
schestowitz | we're trying to decide on stuff | Mar 10 18:35 |
qu1j0t3 | india also has a pollution problem, but in other respects i'd like to live there | Mar 10 18:36 |
qu1j0t3 | $WIFE probably wouldn't. | Mar 10 18:36 |
schestowitz | It's actually quite amazing to me that I still manage to write a bit in Techrights and researching for it while juggling several jobs and a relationship, in addition to leisure stuff. I think I managed to offload a lot of the crap, like laundry and stuff. | Mar 10 18:36 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: India is good for retirement maybe | Mar 10 18:36 |
schestowitz | if you have savings and need not rely on making income | Mar 10 18:37 |
schestowitz | my dad thought about moving to India when retiring | Mar 10 18:37 |
qu1j0t3 | it has many many qualities | Mar 10 18:37 |
qu1j0t3 | amazing atmosphere | Mar 10 18:37 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you should visit | Mar 10 18:37 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: do you have friends there? | Mar 10 18:37 |
*qu1j0t3 waves, goes to work | Mar 10 18:38 | |
schestowitz | I have some friends, none close enough to be my host there | Mar 10 18:39 |
schestowitz | unless I ask, I know some who would willingly agree | Mar 10 18:39 |
schestowitz | I think one of the good things there is, the way people might treat you as a foreigner | Mar 10 18:39 |
schestowitz | I heard that in Singapore, for example, they look down on people from abroad | Mar 10 18:39 |
qu1j0t3 | bbiab | Mar 10 18:40 |
schestowitz | whereas in most other countries it's pretty much the opposite, and in some countries you cannot be visually characterised as "not from here" (alien) | Mar 10 18:40 |
schestowitz | qu1j0t3: kk | Mar 10 18:40 |
schestowitz | "Go Daddys lip service was not enough! Thank you Jimmy Wales for the sustained efforts against SOPA/PIPA/ACTA & Co." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1401353 | Mar 10 18:43 |
TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wikipedia is leaving #GoDaddy because of #SOPA https://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/wikipedia-is-leaving-go-daddy-because-of-sopa/2108 boycotts work | Mar 10 18:43 |
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schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1402677 | Mar 10 18:43 |
TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A Chance to End Software Patents in the United States http://techrights.org/2012/03/10/scotus-gets-a-chance/ #us #swpats | Mar 10 18:43 |
TechrightsSocial | -> Title: A Chance to End Software Patents in the United States | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.92 KB | Mar 10 18:43 |
schestowitz | "Oh please, please, please, please, please!!! :" | Mar 10 18:43 |
schestowitz | Next week I go to church to baptise Amy :-) | Mar 10 18:58 |
schestowitz | MinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1403213 https://www.mail.com/int/news/europe/1121634-thousands-hungary-attend-anti-govt-protest.html#.1258-stage-hero1-10 did you go? | Mar 10 20:21 |
TechrightsSocial | @tolerance@diasp.eu: # Thousands in Hungary attend anti-govt protest ![pic](https://a248.e.akamai.net/img.mail.com/636/1121636,h=425,pd=1,mxw=620.jpg) [source](https://www.mail.com/int/news/europe/1121634-thousands-hungary-attend-anti-govt-protest.html#.1258-stage-hero1-10) March 10, 2012 — BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — Several thousand supporters of the Hungarian Solidarity Movement have attended an anti-government rally demanding grea | Mar 10 20:21 |
TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | Mar 10 20:21 |
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MinceR | schestowitz: no | Mar 10 20:21 |
schestowitz | Kossuth Square | Mar 10 20:22 |
schestowitz | anti-Nazis protest | Mar 10 20:22 |
schestowitz | or just something about tax | Mar 10 20:22 |
schestowitz | "Several thousand supporters of the Hungarian Solidarity Movement have attended an anti-government rally demanding greater support for the poor, a fairer tax system and the preservation of free higher education." | Mar 10 20:22 |
MinceR | i'm not going to put myself at risk of being killed by the donut-gobblers serving the dictatorship because a couple million idiots fucked up the country for me | Mar 10 20:22 |
MinceR | they fucked it up, they should fix it for their own sake | Mar 10 20:22 |
MinceR | i'm not even going to stay in this hellhole for long | Mar 10 20:23 |
schestowitz | ok | Mar 10 20:23 |
schestowitz | so Viktor drives away those who oppose him | Mar 10 20:23 |
schestowitz | it'll make him stranger, less opposition | Mar 10 20:23 |
MinceR | as long as the majority of the voters support the dictatorship, there's no democratic way to get rid of it anyway | Mar 10 20:23 |
schestowitz | same in the US | Mar 10 20:24 |
schestowitz | the UK is not quite as messed up in that regard | Mar 10 20:24 |
MinceR | i think we should collect the fascists of the planet to some country that they can have | Mar 10 20:25 |
MinceR | let them kill each other there | Mar 10 20:25 |
MinceR | our nazis are already planning to ship some nazis from poland to demonstrate in their favor, on taxpayer money | Mar 10 20:25 |
MinceR | they shouldn't go back home, then | Mar 10 20:25 |
schestowitz | I see. though I have not read about that yet | Mar 10 20:27 |
schestowitz | sounds like Hitler's approach to Mussolini | Mar 10 20:28 |
schestowitz | Self-affirmation and political masturbation | Mar 10 20:28 |
qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://theactivists.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/they-gonna-catch-you-poster-warning-children-of-capitalist-threats/ | Mar 10 20:50 |
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schestowitz | some brands there I can't recognise | Mar 10 20:55 |
schestowitz | I know a better recent poster, let me see if I can find it | Mar 10 20:55 |
schestowitz | image search is hard. It's a cartoon with a voting caricature, with a bunch of tanks and a voting booth in front of each brainwashed citizen | Mar 10 20:57 |
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qu1j0t3 | not news: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1144130--harold-camping-apocalypse-prediction-was-wrong?bn=1 | Mar 10 22:10 |
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XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | Mar 10 23:03 |
XFaCE | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | Mar 10 23:03 |
XFaCE | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | Mar 10 23:03 |
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qu1j0t3 | not news: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1144130--harold-camping-apocalypse-prediction-was-wrong?bn=1 | Mar 10 22:10 |
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XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | Mar 10 23:03 |
XFaCE | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | Mar 10 23:03 |
XFaCE | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | Mar 10 23:03 |
XFaCE | , really? | Mar 10 23:03 |
qu1j0t3 | :) | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | and now, for some further idiocy | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> "Michael said, | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> March 10, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> Wouldn’t it be great if OSS could stand on its own without fear of having to pay for the property of others’ they use. Yeah, in such a world they could take what they want and hand it out for free and pretend this was a good thing. | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> " | Mar 10 23:32 |
qu1j0t3 | LOL! | Mar 10 23:33 |
qu1j0t3 | that's the problem with ignorance; it's self-supporting... | Mar 10 23:33 |
XFaCE | Yeah | Mar 10 23:33 |
XFaCE | Let's pick that comment apart. | Mar 10 23:33 |
XFaCE | 1) Michael apparently assumes that it is easy to copy software from scratch. | Mar 10 23:34 |
XFaCE | See, in Michael's world, the Free software devs are so superhuman that they can apparently reverse engineer code in a week or less | Mar 10 23:34 |
qu1j0t3 | maybe you can ask which OSS products copy a proprietary product | Mar 10 23:35 |
qu1j0t3 | i am having trouble thinking of a single example | Mar 10 23:35 |
XFaCE | Or that said devs are using decompilers | Mar 10 23:35 |
qu1j0t3 | OSS _by definition_ can't use the property of others. | Mar 10 23:35 |
XFaCE | First suggestion is totally stupid | Mar 10 23:35 |
qu1j0t3 | it's a legal disqualification | Mar 10 23:35 |
XFaCE | Second suggestion is a violation of copyright | Mar 10 23:35 |
qu1j0t3 | you have to _have_ copyright to claim an OSS license. | Mar 10 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: summary: /ignore this person | Mar 10 23:36 |
XFaCE | yep | Mar 10 23:36 |
XFaCE | he pollute Roy's comment section | Mar 10 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | clearly he has no understanding of how software is created, or what OSS products are out there. | Mar 10 23:36 |
XFaCE | For the most part, just mention apple in a negative live, and that's like his bat signal. | Mar 10 23:36 |
XFaCE | *light | Mar 10 23:36 |
qu1j0t3 | so he thinks free software is copying apple? | Mar 10 23:37 |
XFaCE | Of course, he's a fanboy | Mar 10 23:37 |
qu1j0t3 | maybe you can point out that huge parts of OSS - including its toolchain for god's sake, and Objective C - is free software. | Mar 10 23:37 |
XFaCE | As I said, Roy says "Apple misusing patents" and there goes Michael, pulling on his cape to stop the butthurt. | Mar 10 23:37 |
qu1j0t3 | he probably isn't aware that gcc's Objective C system is free software???? | Mar 10 23:37 |
qu1j0t3 | donated by NeXT as it happens | Mar 10 23:38 |
qu1j0t3 | s/OSS/OS X/ | Mar 10 23:38 |
XFaCE | As I said, Michael's world doesn't exist in reality | Mar 10 23:38 |
qu1j0t3 | typo | Mar 10 23:38 |
qu1j0t3 | ok i'm going home. bbl | Mar 10 23:38 |
XFaCE | k | Mar 10 23:38 |
qu1j0t3 | maybe he;s the guy who wrote this weird question ... http://www.quora.com/Decompilation/What-makes-decompilation-difficult-And-in-cases-where-decompilation-is-possible-why-are-the-results-so-much-less-useful-than-the-original-source-code | Mar 10 23:41 |
TechrightsSocial | Title: Decompilation: What makes decompilation difficult? And in cases where decompilation is possible, why are the results so much less useful than the original source code? - Quora .::. Size~: 96.02 KB | Mar 10 23:41 |
qu1j0t3 | i don't know why ppl think open source and reverse engineering are connected... | Mar 10 23:41 |
XFaCE | qu1j0t3: help | Mar 10 23:42 |
XFaCE | 's apple | Mar 10 23:42 |
XFaCE | 's propaganda | Mar 10 23:42 |
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XFaCE | , really? | Mar 10 23:03 |
qu1j0t3 | :) | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | and now, for some further idiocy | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> "Michael said, | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> March 10, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> Wouldn’t it be great if OSS could stand on its own without fear of having to pay for the property of others’ they use. Yeah, in such a world they could take what they want and hand it out for free and pretend this was a good thing. | Mar 10 23:32 |
XFaCE | [18:21] <XFaCE> " | Mar 10 23:32 |
qu1j0t3 | LOL! | Mar 10 23:33 |
qu1j0t3 | that's the problem with ignorance; it's self-supporting... | Mar 10 23:33 |
XFaCE | Yeah | Mar 10 23:33 |
XFaCE | Let's pick that comment apart. | Mar 10 23:34 |
XFaCE | 1) Michael apparently assumes that it is easy to copy software from scratch. | Mar 10 23:34 |
XFaCE | See, in Michael's world, the Free software devs are so superhuman that they can apparently reverse engineer code in a week or less | Mar 10 23:35 |
qu1j0t3 | maybe you can ask which OSS products copy a proprietary product | Mar 10 23:35 |
qu1j0t3 | i am having trouble thinking of a single example | Mar 10 23:35 |
XFaCE | Or that said devs are using decompilers | Mar 10 23:35 |
qu1j0t3 | OSS _by definition_ can't use the property of others. | Mar 10 23:35 |
XFaCE | First suggestion is totally stupid | Mar 10 23:35 |
quMar 11 00:23:56 <schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1402718 | Mar 10 23:36 |
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