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schestowitzMinceR: Mar 12 00:34
schestowitzMaybe you want to see a video of me explaining some of the stuff I work on. It's not scripted, it's just me rambling:Mar 12 00:34
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu58tA8MHMg&feature=plcp&context=C496a525VDvjVQa1PpcFNm4jkNAb5GTfWysBQjXNh2yJlXm1O-wl0%3DMar 12 00:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: PCA and Multidimensional Scaling in Shapes - Part 0       - YouTube .::. Size~: 91.77 KBMar 12 00:34
schestowitzhttp://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2011/subject-rankings/engineering/computer-scienceMar 12 01:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: QS World University Rankings - Topuniversities .::. Size~: 220.07 KBMar 12 01:03
schestowitzSo many of the rankings are US-onlyMar 12 01:03
schestowitzat least in search resultsMar 12 01:03
schestowitzhttp://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings http://www.uscollegeranking.org/category/engineering/computer-science  http://www.greguide.com/comps.htmlMar 12 01:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: Best Computer Science Programs | Top Computer Science Schools | US News Best Graduate Schools .::. Size~: 50.03 KBMar 12 01:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: About Computer Science College & University Rankings .::. Size~: 38.17 KBMar 12 01:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: GRE Guide - Computer Science Rankings .::. Size~: 46.35 KBMar 12 01:03
schestowitzhttp://education-portal.com/computer_science_college_rankings.htmlMar 12 01:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Computer Science College Rankings .::. Size~: 168.81 KBMar 12 01:05
schestowitzde facto one seems to be this http://worldranking.blogspot.com/2010/02/computer-science-rankings.htmlMar 12 01:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: Computer Science Rankings | World Ranking Guide .::. Size~: 34.25 KBMar 12 01:07
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schestowitzhttp://www.topuniversities.com/computer-science-universitiesMar 12 01:08
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91781065Mar 12 01:40
TechrightsSocial@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 12-Mar-12 01:31:40 UTC - Identi.ca: The Kubuntu Commitment http://ur1.ca/8md0b #kde #Kubuntu #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linuxMar 12 01:40
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schestowitz"really awesome... I saw them from Panama! :" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1407565Mar 12 08:42
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Mar 12 08:42
MinceRhttp://get.unshelved.com/strips/20021029.gifMar 12 09:18
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/gif typeMar 12 09:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1408157Mar 12 09:19
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For books, it isn't just a choice between Apple and Amazon http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=805808000000000416 #drm #literatureMar 12 09:19
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schestowitz"I'll stick to #smashwords and paper books. If anyone knows any other publishing platform as http://www.smashwords.com/ let me know. I've gotten some great books from there and some from authors posting them on #mobileread forums, or linking to them. "Mar 12 09:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: Smashwords — Ebooks from independent authors and publishers .::. Size~: 36.62 KBMar 12 09:19
schestowitzinterview with Jim Whitehurst http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/business/jim-whitehurst-of-red-hat-on-merits-of-an-open-culture.html?_r=1 (warning: New York Times)Mar 12 09:46
TechrightsSocialcouldn't connect to host ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/business/jim-whitehurst-of-red-hat-on-merits-of-an-open-culture.html?_r=1 )Mar 12 09:47
schestowitzhttp://digg.com/news/technology/screw_this_i_m_going_back_to_windowsMar 12 10:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: Screw this, I'm going back to Windows! - Digg .::. Size~: 38.99 KBMar 12 10:45
schestowitz"Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzROFLMar 12 10:45
schestowitzI have used Ubuntu Linux and contrary to what the article says, it has not abandoned the desktop to Microsoft. The Ubuntu UI was pretty powerful. And getting more so, I noticed. It did have some snags at times that made things a bit rough in small ways.Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzIt was far, far, far more productive for a developer than Windows was. With Windows, you are faced with the well-known, crappy Windows 'shell' (CMD.EXE), a toy left over from the 1970s. Windows also is a headache in a world where having Windows machines around means that Windows-malware is injected into the environment. Most developers would rather sidestep such headaches.Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzIt is not safe to bet on Microsoft 'monopolies' these days:Mar 12 10:45
schestowitz- Window phone: several years ago at almost 50% now at about 1% market shareMar 12 10:45
schestowitz- Windows PCs: Apple's iPad alone outsells any brand of Windows computerMar 12 10:45
schestowitz- Internet Explorer: market share went into free fall from over 90% to about half due to becoming a hacker's play toy [with popularity as no excuse; loss of popularity was followed by a lot more hacking activity/success, actually]Mar 12 10:45
schestowitz- Windows Server: 2/3 of market uses Linux now and 1/3 Windows; after Microsoft famously declared rising interest in Linux would not cost it any market shareMar 12 10:45
schestowitzUbuntu is a sensible choice for developers creating web apps and web services.Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzIt's shell [command line interpreter] is hundreds of times more powerful than Windows. Linux/Unix are the operating systems used in virtually all current smart phones and mobile computers.Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzIt is compatible with Java, which is a frequent choice for programming IT services and web sites.Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzNetwork control is more powerful and explicit than Windows, which frequently suffers from a complaint that it lacks transparency. There is also little risk of an 'attack' by Microsoft's Bing/etc. marketing departments, which break the rules of what is insane to put into a security patch for Windows; like: unnecessary/unwanted products with critical security flaws in them.Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzThere are more games for Windows than Linux. If that matters to you, you probably want to stick with Windows but reconsider if Windows 8 breaks all your games.Mar 12 10:45
schestowitz"Mar 12 10:45
schestowitzme: "The inertia of Windows is shafting away to platforms like Android now, and this also includes games. Ubuntu is doing OK, but it's probably Android that quickly becomes somewhat of a universal OS."Mar 12 10:46
oiaohmReally you missed point.Mar 12 11:22
oiaohmAt some point in future Android kernel and Mainline Linux kernel will be one.Mar 12 11:22
oiaohmAt some point wayland will land.Mar 12 11:22
oiaohmAt that point android and normal Linux applications will be able to exist in the one platform.Mar 12 11:23
oiaohmSo android is a win for Linux long term.Mar 12 11:23
MinceRwill one day android ship with a libc isn't crippled? :>Mar 12 11:24
oiaohmMinceR: will it matter when you can run android in a chrootMar 12 11:25
MinceRit would be better if i didn't need to.Mar 12 11:25
oiaohmAndroid in a chroot is a step up from wine.  MinceRMar 12 11:25
MinceRalso, there's not much point in wasting space on bionic libc if you also have glibc on the storage device, is there?Mar 12 11:25
MinceRsureMar 12 11:25
MinceRhuge step upMar 12 11:26
oiaohmLittle bit of bagage that is bionic libc compared the the bagage wine is is nothing.Mar 12 11:26
oiaohmMaybe one day we will be able to map the working functions threwMar 12 11:26
oiaohmAnd only have a bionic libc doing what is busted.Mar 12 11:26
oiaohmMinceR: basically have to accept progress.Mar 12 11:27
MinceRwhat progress?Mar 12 11:28
oiaohmAndroid for closed source apps instead of win32 for closed source apps.Mar 12 11:28
oiaohmIts still progressMar 12 11:28
MinceRwell, that is indeed progressMar 12 11:28
oiaohmOk not progress how we would 100 percent like.Mar 12 11:29
oiaohmIe native Linux applications would be better.Mar 12 11:29
schestowitzI have changed the page background and changed the main page a bit:Mar 12 12:06
schestowitzhttp://sjpropertyinvestment.com/Mar 12 12:06
schestowitzThe quotes there are to be filled in with testimonials (once I have the text).Mar 12 12:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: SJ PROPERTY INVESTMENT UK .::. Size~: 73.36 KBMar 12 12:06
schestowitzDoes that look better to you?Mar 12 12:06
schestowitzhttp://digg.com/news/technology/screw_this_i_m_going_back_to_windowsMar 12 12:12
schestowitz"Mar 12 12:12
TechrightsSocialTitle: Screw this, I'm going back to Windows! - Digg .::. Size~: 47.81 KBMar 12 12:12
schestowitzYou mean 'shifting away' ? ROFL :)Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzThings in the computer market seem to comprise a lot of 'pendulums'. Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzRight now I think the market and consumers are more inclined to desire different/diverse operating systems than ever before. They have been burned badly by overmuch leaning on one, as that clearly led Microsoft to assume it was 'entitled' to consumers business -- no matter what.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzBlaming a lot of its problems on its high market share seemed irresponsible and wrong before but now that the pendulum has swung away from Microsoft, rationales like that basically scream "get away from me! get something slightly less pervasive!"Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzi don't think technical people or mass market consumers will rush into any company's or platforms arms and say, "Be the next Microsoft. Become just like Microsoft so I can get away from Microsoft!"Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzI think consumers and corporations will go for platforms, operating systems, and hardware units that have different implementations but can behave the same way and can have a large chunk of software be the same on different platforms.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzThat's really what made Linux not only successful but evolve and adapt to so many different things so very quickly. The same can be said of Unix.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzRight now, Apple's taking long strides basically technologically ahead of other players; doing engineering and manufacturing their competition cannot touch right now.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzGoogle is using less cutting edge tech but is right on Apple's tail and overlapping in some areas. I think the fact they had an officer sitting in Apple's closed boardroom meetings taking notes for years gave them an advantage in copying what Apple did a few years back easily. But I don't think it will be as easy now for them to guess what Apple is doing right now, or even did 2-3 years ago. They just have to see what goes on Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzshelves after the end of each R&D cycle.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzBut for the short term, Google was able to parley that into rushing some tech out the door with a lot less R&D cost and push its 'product' prices way down.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzWhat Google's Android is bombing hard on is reliability in the form of compatibility/safety/dependability:Mar 12 12:12
schestowitz1) Small screens need homogeneity and Android geometries are all over the place; no standard. On big + hi-rez screens, not a problem. But tiny ones, yeah. [If they catch up and go with HDTV full rez like Apple did on latest iPad this problem goes away at least for their handheld just not phones].Mar 12 12:12
schestowitz2) Any given month, most of the Android units on shelves or mail ordered are far behind the current Android OS. That hurts computer safety/security, compatibility with latest apps, ability to market a product for the latest OS. Kind of a mess. Consumers installing their own vanilla version of the OS is definitely not the OS. IF it was that easy, the manufactures would be doing it and consumers wouldn't be trying to slam one Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzin themselves.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitz3) The security is atrocious. They have a firewall but for such a volatile interactive piece of tech like a smart phone, you would think they would carefully review apps like Apple instead of shipping so much malware particularly trojans.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitz4) Not sure how the Oracle lawsuit will shake out. If Google's Java API violates the open source code license then they might have to writ their own Java interpreter from scratch, pay Google a ton of money, switch the platform from Java to "Go!".Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzWindows had low market share on servers, surged for a while and got a lot, and then lost a fair bit to Linux, surprising Microsoft because they publicly predicted they would lose no market share to Linux. Wrong intel for investors, there. Microsoft has 1/3 server market share today and Linux has 2/3 server market share.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzBut, on the desktop Microsoft retained a much bigger chunk of the OS department, despite some erosion to competitors. That tells me, consumers like choice and even if they have one brand for say the desktop niche, they prefer to be able to use a different brand for the server niche because... they're different!Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzThe status quo of the web also makes this case for diversity. Some people who are set in the past (a narrow segment of it I might add) believe there's going to be one web browser any day now. No, that was never intended and never worked even halfway well. Microsoft's IE, Mozilla's Firefox, and Google Chrome have huge slices of market share. If you look at web engines (semi-smart, if you don't take it too far) then the WebKit Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzengine from Google+Apple has huge market share -- and, is used in different apps on different platforms a LOT but not totally by any means.Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzMaybe there will be less shafting and more pistoning for a while. :)Mar 12 12:12
schestowitz"Mar 12 12:12
schestowitzVery unfortunate typo from me :-)Mar 12 12:12
oiaohmReally most Apple tech is not cutting edge.Mar 12 12:18
MinceRthat's not newMar 12 12:19
oiaohmApple is mostly arm tech by samsung and others repackaged.Mar 12 12:19
schestowitzYeah, I thought the same when I read thisMar 12 12:20
oiaohmschestowitz: http://sjpropertyinvestment.com/  That site looks like someone has used the wrong method there are some nice sites engines particular for property sales.Mar 12 12:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: SJ PROPERTY INVESTMENT UK .::. Size~: 73.4 KBMar 12 12:20
oiaohmschestowitz: even for investment.Mar 12 12:21
oiaohmschestowitz: really I have seen a few use the Realty site to show of what proptiety they have in there portfolioMar 12 12:22
schestowitzoiaohm: it's not for direct saleMar 12 12:22
schestowitzit's more like contact details and suchMar 12 12:22
oiaohmOk so a broker.Mar 12 12:22
oiaohmschestowitz: I was thinking investment fund or realiter by main.Mar 12 12:23
oiaohmschestowitz: not a conveyancing agent. Mar 12 12:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1408317Mar 12 12:24
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firefox 11 Stable Released http://www.ghacks.net/2012/03/10/firefox-11-stable-released/ #mozilla #firefoxMar 12 12:24
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Firefox 11 Stable Released .::. Size~: 35.2 KBMar 12 12:24
schestowitz"hmm i have only 10.0.2 "Mar 12 12:24
schestowitzoiaohm: for HK crowdMar 12 12:25
oiaohmschestowitz: really for anything reality based I normally use this as base.  http://www.open-realty.org/open-realty-features.htmlMar 12 12:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: Open-Realty Features .::. Size~: 37.06 KBMar 12 12:27
oiaohmschestowitz: reason if the decide one day to do like direct sales or investment packages quite simple to open it up.Mar 12 12:28
oiaohmschestowitz: there are other options of course.Mar 12 12:30
schestowitzthe specs were simple in this case, about 3 pages in the siteMar 12 12:36
oiaohmschestowitz: I normally don't take on 3 page sites.  I am back end tech not designer of course.Mar 12 12:37
oiaohmschestowitz: so by the time I am called in the site is normally 100 pages or otherwise horid.Mar 12 12:37
oiaohmschestowitz: basically there is a lot to be said for expansion planning.Mar 12 12:38
schestowitzyes, but she is a small bizMar 12 12:40
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oiaohmschestowitz: basically it is that I am the wrong level.Mar 12 12:42
schestowitzoiaohm: for me it's just something to do on the sideMar 12 12:43
schestowitzFor her I think it's a plan to go independentMar 12 12:43
schestowitzshe used to be a colleague of my best friendMar 12 12:43
schestowitzchanging CMSs would not be hardMar 12 12:43
schestowitzif that expands, assuming for now there's just a bunch of pagesMar 12 12:43
oiaohmRemember to get a good google index you need to update content regularly.Mar 12 12:44
oiaohmAnd you need users to be able to find there way around well. Mar 12 12:44
oiaohmOn a business suite wordpress does  not exactly fit.Mar 12 12:44
schestowitzit's like a hobby to me, for myself too an opportunity to bring more business in. My main job pays me like $4k this month, I really don't need to rely on these other jobsMar 12 12:44
oiaohmSo you end up using cms something.Mar 12 12:44
schestowitzyes, well, it's just a few pages to push inMar 12 12:45
schestowitzand I don't do SEO reallyMar 12 12:45
oiaohmschestowitz: I guess this is the first time doing business site.Mar 12 12:45
schestowitznopeMar 12 12:45
schestowitzI did one when I was 19Mar 12 12:45
oiaohmSo its been a long time.Mar 12 12:45
schestowitznopeMar 12 12:46
schestowitzlast year tooMar 12 12:46
oiaohmschestowitz: that is still a lot of time.Mar 12 12:50
oiaohmschestowitz: Layout to exploit screen space and so on is a art web sites.Mar 12 12:50
oiaohmschestowitz: that is fast to lose.Mar 12 12:50
schestowitzi used the spaceMar 12 12:51
schestowitzshe thinks it's like a phoneMar 12 12:51
oiaohmschestowitz: Ok the double layout problem.Mar 12 12:52
oiaohmschestowitz: because I bet she wants it to view on a phone well.Mar 12 12:52
schestowitza lot of people don't "get" the WWW, and as I learned over 10 years ago, there's no point explanining to them Mar 12 12:52
oiaohmschestowitz: so thinks the desktop/tablet display has to be the same.Mar 12 12:52
schestowitzDo the bad stuff they ask for, to make them happyMar 12 12:53
schestowitzlater on they come whining that the Adobe Trash they wanted is, well.. TrashMar 12 12:53
oiaohmI have access to a company guide book for customers.Mar 12 12:53
oiaohmThat basically say you want a web site.  And walks the person threw the common errors.Mar 12 12:54
oiaohmMakes there far more sane to deal with without a lot of effort.Mar 12 12:54
schestowitzypu get paid also to remove the stuff they previously wanted, that's why I charge by the hourMar 12 12:54
oiaohmHey even with the guide they make mistakes.Mar 12 12:55
schestowitz"don't like it? No problem, will change it, charge you again..."Mar 12 12:55
oiaohmDifference is it not a mistake that costs you months fixing.Mar 12 12:55
schestowitzyeahMar 12 12:55
oiaohmI prefer small mistakesMar 12 12:55
oiaohmNot the one we used the wrong site engine.Mar 12 12:56
oiaohmSmall mistakes equals profit and happy customer.Mar 12 12:56
oiaohmBig mistakes normally equals customer going to someone else.Mar 12 12:56
oiaohmReason for making the basic guide to common errors in the first place.Mar 12 12:57
oiaohmLike the idea that tablet and phone have to look the same.Mar 12 12:57
oiaohmBecause its the same web site.Mar 12 12:57
oiaohmThey work out latter that its not true.Mar 12 12:57
oiaohmschestowitz: other advanatage you gave them the basic guide and they order you todo those mistakes you have a guide to say you were warned don't blame us.Mar 12 12:58
oiaohmschestowitz: think about it small mistakes that you can bill an hour for that took you 10 mins to fix is really profitable.Mar 12 13:00
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/qsa8bMar 12 13:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Every christian I've ever argued with. via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.66 KBMar 12 13:04
schestowitzI've just spilled the whole laundry detergent on the floor.. Argh..Mar 12 13:12
schestowitzMinceR: NOMar 12 13:13
MinceR:)Mar 12 13:14
schestowitzBut metaphorically, Jesus IS the SunMar 12 13:26
schestowitzThe rays are the thornsMar 12 13:26
schestowitzand it's all about sun worship on the solsticeMar 12 13:26
MinceRonly thenMar 12 13:27
MinceRbecause the cult took over that festivalMar 12 13:27
schestowitzIt's a good story, all it needed was a good castMar 12 13:27
schestowitzthey allegedly found some guy born on April (if at all), changed the months just very slightly..Mar 12 13:28
schestowitzand removed the "pussydick" from the story by evoking a holy "spirit" and an oversized father xmas with a beard but not a sleighMar 12 13:29
schestowitzmeanwhile in #techrights: [13:29] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] "We demand the right to discriminate, give us our demands or we'll set our God on you" http://goo.gl/0AfxF #homophobic #religionMar 12 13:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: BBC News - Christian hotel owners consider gay couple appeal at Supreme Court .::. Size~: 72.75 KBMar 12 13:30
MinceRwell, let them set their god on usMar 12 13:30
schestowitzwhat to appeal? Did the couples sue for being a homophobic book in the dresser of each guestroom?Mar 12 13:31
schestowitzWell, it's not so unusual foe the Bright community to embrace the Gay community in order to increase the opposition to supersitionMar 12 13:34
XFaCEhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120310/00212518064/why-does-unpatentable-abstract-idea-becomes-patentable-if-you-add-internet.shtmlMar 12 13:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Why Does An Unpatentable 'Abstract Idea' Becomes Patentable If You Add 'On The Internet'? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.02 KBMar 12 13:41
XFaCEDamn, we're missing out on a lucrative business opportunityMar 12 13:41
XFaCEJust add "Internet"Mar 12 13:41
MinceRis that the new "...in bed!"?Mar 12 13:44
XFaCE"buying fruit...on the internet!"Mar 12 13:45
XFaCE"writing a grocery list...on the internet!"Mar 12 13:45
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schestowitzXFaCE: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120309/13442618055/canadas-new-copyright-bill-good-bad-undecided.shtmlMar 12 13:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: Canada's New Copyright Bill: The Good, The Bad and The Undecided | Techdirt .::. Size~: 67.55 KBMar 12 13:58
XFaCEschestowitz: good good article, as expected from TDMar 12 13:59
XFaCEschestowitz: We would write the Free software perspectiveMar 12 14:00
qu1j0t3XFaCE: how very 1999.Mar 12 14:11
XFaCEqu1j0t3: huh?Mar 12 14:11
qu1j0t3XFaCE: how very 1999.Mar 12 14:12
qu1j0t3XFaCE: you do remember 1999?Mar 12 14:12
qu1j0t3the first big internet bubble?Mar 12 14:12
XFaCEOhMar 12 14:12
XFaCEI was dreaming when I wrote this, so sue me if it goes astray.Mar 12 14:12
XFaCEBut yes, I do remember 1999Mar 12 14:13
qu1j0t3even I had my "Zuckerberg" conceptMar 12 14:13
qu1j0t3i guess everyone had one. "Imma be a billionaire"Mar 12 14:13
XFaCEsorry, what's the connection to the copyright article?Mar 12 14:14
qu1j0t3      XFaCE | "buying fruit...on the internet!"      Mar 12 14:14
qu1j0t3     XFaCE | "writing a grocery list...on the internet!"    Mar 12 14:14
XFaCEqu1j0t3: OOOHHHHHHhhhhMar 12 14:14
XFaCEI see nowMar 12 14:14
XFaCEYesMar 12 14:14
XFaCEIn factMar 12 14:14
XFaCEI remember an Oprah show demonstrating all the new internet servicesMar 12 14:15
qu1j0t3did you ever read Po Bronson, "Nudist on the Night Shift"?Mar 12 14:15
qu1j0t3a good document of the moment.Mar 12 14:15
XFaCEGrocery shopping and allMar 12 14:15
qu1j0t3i thnk the posterchild is pets.com and boo.comMar 12 14:15
qu1j0t3children*Mar 12 14:15
qu1j0t3tyler brule's junketMar 12 14:15
XFaCEcars.comMar 12 14:16
XFaCEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y4gwAQdr20Mar 12 14:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: Prince : 1999 (HQ)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 147.56 KBMar 12 14:16
XFaCE- That music video depicts the Nortel management celebrating artificial profitsMar 12 14:18
XFaCEqu1j0t3: :PMar 12 14:18
qu1j0t3Enron / Worldcom / ...Mar 12 14:18
qu1j0t3ah what a wonderful decadeMar 12 14:18
XFaCEwell, it wasMar 12 14:18
XFaCEup to thtat point :PMar 12 14:18
qu1j0t3then Goldman SachsMar 12 14:18
qu1j0t3sighMar 12 14:18
qu1j0t3we'll never be free of these parasitesMar 12 14:19
XFaCEthe 90s at least still had some decent musicMar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3compared to the 80sMar 12 14:19
XFaCEand sane weatherMar 12 14:19
*qu1j0t3 gigglesMar 12 14:19
XFaCEqu1j0t3: hey, not all 80s suckedMar 12 14:19
XFaCEGenesisMar 12 14:19
XFaCERushMar 12 14:19
XFaCEYesMar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3oh, yeah, well kiss sane weather goodbyeMar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3XFaCE: true, only 1980-1989 sucked.Mar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3:)Mar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3i was in high schoolMar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3wouldn't care to do it overMar 12 14:19
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Alan Parsons ProjectMar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3XFaCE: heheMar 12 14:19
qu1j0t3yes, i remember itMar 12 14:20
qu1j0t3FInal CutMar 12 14:20
XFaCEThe BoxMar 12 14:20
qu1j0t3kept me saneMar 12 14:20
XFaCEqu1j0t3: what's wrong with rush, genesis and yes?Mar 12 14:20
XFaCE:PMar 12 14:20
XFaCEoh, and peter gabrielMar 12 14:20
XFaCEqu1j0t3: I was born in 90, so I wouldn't know the trully bad stuff about the 80sMar 12 14:23
XFaCEAll I know is that the music was crap and goodMar 12 14:23
XFaCEMore than you can say for today (mostly crap)Mar 12 14:23
XFaCEqu1j0t3: eh?Mar 12 14:26
qu1j0t3Peter Gabriel, yeah, liked it at the time.Mar 12 14:33
qu1j0t3but i no longer listen to the music i enjoyed in the 80s and 90sMar 12 14:33
qu1j0t3i guess i played it out. :)Mar 12 14:33
qu1j0t3Roger Waters was a big obsession of mine in the 90sMar 12 14:33
XFaCEWhat do you listen to now?Mar 12 14:37
qu1j0t3trance techno and such, working music. more ambient stuff.Mar 12 14:51
XFaCEqu1j0t3: ICMar 12 16:00
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91793733Mar 12 16:10
schestowitzI'm listening to it right nowMar 12 16:10
schestowitzRMW pwns themMar 12 16:11
schestowitz*RMSMar 12 16:11
TechrightsSocialCould not fetch identi.ca pageMar 12 16:11
TechrightsSocialI'm listening to it right nowMar 12 16:11
TechrightsSocialRMW pwns themMar 12 16:11
TechrightsSocial*RMSMar 12 16:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1408292Mar 12 16:54
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How Linux is changing lives in Zambia http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/how-linux-is-changing-lives-in-zambia-1067863  #africa #linuxMar 12 16:54
schestowitz"open-source is a gigantic opportunity for emerging countries "Mar 12 16:54
TechrightsSocial-> Title: How Linux is changing lives in Zambia | News | TechRadar .::. Size~: 77.1 KBMar 12 16:54
schestowitz"they have a nice website btw: http://www.machaworks.org/ "Mar 12 16:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: home | Macha Works .::. Size~: 12.23 KBMar 12 16:54
schestowitzkernel devs shortage http://jobs.electronicsweekly.com/job/1401328710/linux-kernel-software-engineer-linux-driver-c-x86-cambs/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=general&ProcessedTrackID=1803Mar 12 17:04
TechrightsSocialTitle: Linux Kernel Software Engineer - Linux, Driver, C, x86, Cambs with IC Software | 1401328710 .::. Size~: 16.13 KBMar 12 17:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1409116Mar 12 17:44
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Eben Moglen - Freedom in The Cloud  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOEMv0S8AcA #FogComputing #prisonMar 12 17:44
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Eben Moglen - Freedom in The Cloud       - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.49 KBMar 12 17:44
schestowitz"Thank You !!! I Have Been Trying To Warn Others For 2 Years On These Topics, Again Thanks... :-) "Mar 12 17:44
schestowitzJoking about consumerism - I like those sorts of memes. Happiness is what matters, buy stuff cannot quite buy happiness much of the time, it's a temporary compensation for lack of genuine happiness.Mar 12 18:05
MinceRhttp://narf-archive.com/pix/001bfc2befba11d7aadff8dfd1dc2bffe2dbba75.pngMar 12 18:13
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schestowitzMinceR: I love humour that only hackers can "get"Mar 12 18:35
MinceR:)Mar 12 18:36
schestowitz> That "Think Tank" is really evidence of sinking to a new low if it isMar 12 19:09
schestowitz> from M$.  How can word get out about these fake offerings?Mar 12 19:09
schestowitzI don't think it's exclusively an MS thing. MS latches onto any scraps that can help itself associate itself with the opposition. Other monoliths like Philips would do the same, it's PR.Mar 12 19:09
schestowitz>> > What's the context of the link you posted on IRC?Mar 12 19:10
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 19:10
schestowitz>> > http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Open-Source-Think-Tank-1839143?itemaction=mclk&anetid=1839143&impid=1839143-8794824&pgkey=my_groups&actpref=myg_rg&trk=myg_rg_group&goback=%2EmygMar 12 19:10
schestowitz> It's that anti-FOSS tank, now in LinkedIn.Mar 12 19:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: Open Source Think Tank | LinkedIn .::. Size~: 154.2 KBMar 12 19:10
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1408317Mar 12 20:29
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firefox 11 Stable Released http://www.ghacks.net/2012/03/10/firefox-11-stable-released/ #mozilla #firefoxMar 12 20:29
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Firefox 11 Stable Released .::. Size~: 35.31 KBMar 12 20:29
schestowitz"It's not released yet, the final packages haven't even been created yet as Mozilla is still waiting for info on a vulnerability discovered on Friday in the pwn2own hacking competition. Firefox 11 will be released on Wednesday or Thursday, depending on how fast that info comes, the bug will be fixed and testing can be done on the results. "Mar 12 20:29
*schestowitz has just gone live on Crivins - the Scottish show about computersMar 12 21:20
MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vgICfQawE&feature=relatedMar 12 22:08
TechrightsSocialTitle: epic conway's game of life       - YouTube .::. Size~: 156.21 KBMar 12 22:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1409601Mar 12 22:20
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Mar 12 22:20
schestowitz"OH MY GOD they had those in Austria (was oin holidays there) – so freaking amazing. Couldn't get my hands out. "Mar 12 22:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1407568 Mar 12 22:20
schestowitz"the wings are put on back to front :) :) "Mar 12 22:20
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Mar 12 22:20
schestowitz"Let me be s Slashdot (slipshod) blogger for a sec: "One time Ubuntu ate my parrot." "Ubuntu is at an all time high in user numbers as compared to numbers that tracked numbers two months ago. But anything can happen. And will. Wait, what did I just say." Oh and, "Sources say Ubuntu was planned by a cabal of orphaned vampires -- vampires!! It will never compete in any real market place, accordingly." "Mar 12 22:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1409334Mar 12 22:23
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Has Canonical Found the Keys to the Computing Kingdom? http://www.technewsworld.com/story/74613.html #ubuntuMar 12 22:23
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Technology News: Community: Has Canonical Found the Keys to the Computing Kingdom? .::. Size~: 16.81 KBMar 12 22:23
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