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schestowitz"GNU hurts economy" http://www.newsday.co.zw/article/2012-02-23-another-gnu-hurts-economy--hawkinsMar 16 00:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: Another GNU hurts economy  Hawkins .::. Size~: 17.78 KBMar 16 00:48
XFaCEthat's weirMar 16 01:42
schestowitzXFaCE: thanks for the good articleMar 16 01:43
schestowitzshould be easier now that you know th tricksMar 16 01:43
schestowitzand you know the wiki too :-)Mar 16 01:43
XFaCEyour welcomeMar 16 01:43
XFaCEno probMar 16 01:43
schestowitz:-DMar 16 01:43
*schestowitz high-fivesMar 16 01:43
*XFaCE belatedly hi-fives.Mar 16 02:14
schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/good-bye-encyclopedia-britannica-good-bye-to-the-printed-record/2128Mar 16 08:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: Good-bye Encyclopedia Britannica: Good-bye to the printed record | ZDNet .::. Size~: 264.62 KBMar 16 08:20
schestowitzGood riddanceMar 16 08:20
schestowitzXFaCE: http://mrpogson.com/2012/03/14/first-meeting-of-senate-legal-and-consitutional-affairs-committee-on-c-19/ http://mrpogson.com/2012/03/15/lies-people-tell-repeatedly-the-second-meeting-of-senate-committee-studying-c-19/Mar 16 08:28
TechrightsSocialTitle: First Meeting of Senate Legal and Consitutional Affairs Committee on C-19 at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 36.65 KBMar 16 08:28
TechrightsSocialTitle: Lies People Tell Repeatedly: The Second Meeting of Senate Committee Studying C-19 at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 39.95 KBMar 16 08:28
schestowitzThis just in, maybe something to write about?Mar 16 08:28
schestowitzhttp://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2012/03/the-cultural-polarization-of-american-society.htmlMar 16 08:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Economic and Cultural Polarization of America .::. Size~: 52.72 KBMar 16 08:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1423068Mar 16 09:09
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Mar 16 09:09
schestowitz"Post 1970 air cooled van. Mine is a little older and probably would not fit through that poor tree. http://50.80.221.155/photo_album/do/van/2006_04_03_van_sub/ ""Mar 16 09:09
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MinceRhttp://narf-archive.com/pix/a6b3df34e3031207ea8ecf79169d2f8c911ef2e0.jpegMar 16 13:42
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMar 16 13:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1423677 Mar 16 13:43
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Mar 16 13:43
schestowitz"mmm interesting, it's the first time a see that a religion could change because of science "Mar 16 13:43
schestowitzMinceR: so trueMar 16 13:43
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XFaCEqu1j0t3: One of the major unanswered questions about Bill C-30, the lawful access/online surveillance bill, is who will pay for the costs associated with responding to law enforcement demands for subscriber information ("look ups") and installation of surveillance equipment ("hook ups"). Christopher Parsons has an excellent post that takes a shot at estimating some of the costs. I recently obtained documents from Public Safety under the AcceMar 16 15:13
XFaCEss to Information Act that indicates that the government doesn't really have its own answer. Mar 16 15:13
XFaCEFrom Geist's articleMar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3sighMar 16 15:13
XFaCEqu1j0t3: As I said in the main channel, it seems this gov't has no answers for anythingMar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3can you explain why abortion rights in Canada are now being discussed on twitter?Mar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3i'm getting really really sick of these conservative fuckheadsMar 16 15:13
XFaCEWait what?Mar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3exactlyMar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3exactlyMar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3exactlyMar 16 15:13
XFaCEIs it just some fantics being dumb?Mar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3exactlyMar 16 15:13
qu1j0t3my reactionMar 16 15:14
qu1j0t3well no, prog tweeters are on itMar 16 15:14
qu1j0t3i haven't checked WHYMar 16 15:14
qu1j0t3what the fuckheads have done NOWMar 16 15:14
qu1j0t3every 5 min it's some new outrageMar 16 15:14
qu1j0t3maybe it's a tactic to distract from electoral fraudMar 16 15:14
XFaCEWaitMar 16 15:14
XFaCEAre you saying that some fuckwits, akin to those assholes with fetus pictures on the street, are babbling on about anti-abortion on twitter?Mar 16 15:15
XFaCEOr have the Harperites done something incredibly stupid again, this time on abortion?Mar 16 15:15
qu1j0t3i think the latterMar 16 15:15
qu1j0t3i am saying that progressive tweeters are complaining about somethingMar 16 15:16
qu1j0t3which means Harper Cons have seeded some new outragMar 16 15:16
qu1j0t3eMar 16 15:16
qu1j0t3maybe to distract from electoral fraudMar 16 15:16
XFaCEhttp://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/12/liberals-say-abortion-robocall-not-voter-suppression/Mar 16 15:17
TechrightsSocialTitle: Robocall from Liberals on abortion 'not voter suppression' | News | National Post .::. Size~: 77.63 KBMar 16 15:17
XFaCE"Revelations about Liberal robocalls attacking an opponent over abortion are giving the Conservatives a new line of defence against allegations of vote suppression and further muddying the events leading up to the federal election in Guelph, Ont., 10 months ago."Mar 16 15:17
qu1j0t3hmMar 16 15:17
qu1j0t3not sure if that's itMar 16 15:17
XFaCEmust beMar 16 15:18
XFaCEThe story is quite confusingMar 16 15:20
XFaCEand as usual, the Harper apologists are in full firstMar 16 15:20
XFaCE"Those evil no-good Liberals! I want to support Internet surveilance and stupid copyright bills and..."Mar 16 15:21
XFaCE"Harper's Canada: Where everyday feels like banging your head on a wall"Mar 16 15:22
qu1j0t3yes.Mar 16 15:22
XFaCEI saw we protest by blasting Rush music at full volume at HarperMar 16 15:31
XFaCEThe only strong emotion he feels is pain, so he will be more unprepared for the sudden influx of awesome music at earshattering volumeMar 16 15:32
XFaCEqu1j0t3: "Let me be clea-" "SUBDIVISIONS"Mar 16 15:37
qu1j0t3pain isn't an emotion!Mar 16 15:41
qu1j0t3godMar 16 15:41
qu1j0t3i don't know HOW to deal with these assholesMar 16 15:41
qu1j0t3they're not even really electedMar 16 15:42
schestowitzLMAO http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/16/ipad_london_queue_hype/Mar 16 15:49
TechrightsSocialTitle: Apple Store staff outnumber queues as new iPad goes on sale • The Register .::. Size~: 27.49 KBMar 16 15:49
schestowitzsee the photoMar 16 15:49
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Harper said pain is an emotion...Mar 16 15:55
XFaCE"Pain is an unpleasant feeling"Mar 16 15:56
XFaCEAhMar 16 15:56
XFaCEschestowitz: what in particular?Mar 16 15:57
qu1j0t3XFaCE: let's dip him in fracking fluidMar 16 15:57
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Hey, if it'll be mixed in with our drinking water, why not?Mar 16 15:58
*qu1j0t3 sighsMar 16 16:00
qu1j0t3THE ECONOMY THE ECONOMYMar 16 16:00
qu1j0t3who cares if you can't breathe, eat or drink!Mar 16 16:00
XFaCEqu1j0t3: those are luxeries, obviouslyuMar 16 16:07
schestowitzfor rocks maybeMar 16 16:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1424371Mar 16 17:18
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #PulseAudio 2.0 Is Set To Be Released Very Soon http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3MTU  #linuxMar 16 17:18
TechrightsSocial-> Title: [Phoronix] PulseAudio 2.0 Is Set To Be Released Very Soon .::. Size~: 17.97 KBMar 16 17:18
schestowitz"Be afraid. Be very afraid.."Mar 16 17:18
schestowitz tomorrow=my first day off in 3 weeksMar 16 17:21
schestowitzI'll be away in London area..Mar 16 17:21
schestowitzqu1j0t3: Public Rebuke of Culture at #GoldmanSachs http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/public-rebuke-of-culture-at-goldman-opens-debate/?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120315 NYT puts it behind paywall http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html?_r=1&ref=business worse than MadoffMar 16 18:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Public Rebuke of Culture at Goldman Opens Debate - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 74.75 KBMar 16 18:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Log In - The New York Times .::. Size~: 9.28 KBMar 16 18:47
qu1j0t3hiMar 16 18:47
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's called a "PR nightmare"Mar 16 18:47
qu1j0t3"NYT puts it behind paywall"Mar 16 18:48
qu1j0t3LOLMar 16 18:48
schestowitzI recknj GS might be across the street from NYTMar 16 18:50
schestowitzmaybe taking care of loans for the NYTMar 16 18:50
schestowitzso it can carry on spewing rubbishMar 16 18:50
schestowitzeven though it's not a profitable business on its ownMar 16 18:51
qu1j0t3there's definitely more to this than meets the yeeMar 16 18:52
qu1j0t3eyeMar 16 18:52
qu1j0t3there is a reason for everything that the NYT printsMar 16 18:53
schestowitzwhat about Paul K?Mar 16 18:54
qu1j0t3he always was an aberration, but it doesn't prove anything.Mar 16 18:56
qu1j0t3all the most corrupt outlets have their outliers -- e.g. Huffington POstMar 16 18:56
qu1j0t3there is a reason why they have outliers.Mar 16 18:56
qu1j0t3because it punctures "most people's" perceptions of corruptionMar 16 18:56
qu1j0t3"But what about Krugman" doesn't really settle anything, but it's a first order deflection.Mar 16 18:57
qu1j0t3doesn't bear 2nd order analysis, which is "he's there to deflect the 1st order objections"Mar 16 18:57
qu1j0t3cost/benefitMar 16 18:57
qu1j0t3he's easily made ineffectiveMar 16 18:57
qu1j0t3"look, we're fair and balanced, we print KRAUTHAMMER AND Krugman"Mar 16 18:57
qu1j0t3"no bias"Mar 16 18:57
schestowitzFox has Napolitano for thatMar 16 19:09
schestowitzMain Gang attacks civil rights all the timeMar 16 19:10
schestowitzand then they give him just 5 minutes a week or whatever to counter it poorly (he's not so eloquent and speaks like a teleprompter is there)Mar 16 19:10
qu1j0t3schestowitz: exactlyMar 16 19:26
qu1j0t3they know how to deflect shallow thinkersMar 16 19:26
schestowitzWhen I criticise FOs people then send me a link with a video of himMar 16 19:26
qu1j0t3HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHMar 16 19:26
qu1j0t3it's like MicrosoftMar 16 19:26
schestowitzas if to say, they also have people on the other sideMar 16 19:26
schestowitzyeahMar 16 19:26
qu1j0t3"look, microsoft supports open source!"Mar 16 19:26
schestowitzmicrosoft.com/opensourceMar 16 19:26
schestowitzand ssame for appleMar 16 19:26
qu1j0t3exxxxactlyMar 16 19:26
schestowitzha, beat me to itMar 16 19:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: most people are fooled, neve scratch the first order answerMar 16 19:27
schestowitzthe just-enough open sourceMar 16 19:27
qu1j0t3it's too much workMar 16 19:27
schestowitzmany other cokpanies do thisMar 16 19:27
schestowitzand gov. depts.Mar 16 19:27
qu1j0t3the dangerous people are the ones who don't accept first order explanations (PR)Mar 16 19:27
qu1j0t3PR is "zeroth order"Mar 16 19:27
qu1j0t3"This is what you are going to think."Mar 16 19:27
qu1j0t3-- Um, no. Let me form my own thought.Mar 16 19:27
qu1j0t3"Ah, a dangerous radical."Mar 16 19:27
schestowitzhehMar 16 19:28
qu1j0t3and so onMar 16 19:28
schestowitzzealotMar 16 19:28
schestowitzstay away from him/herMar 16 19:28
qu1j0t3activist..zelotMar 16 19:28
qu1j0t3activist..zealotMar 16 19:28
schestowitzit leads to dancingMar 16 19:28
qu1j0t3the dictionary of dissentMar 16 19:28
schestowitz[taliban]Mar 16 19:28
schestowitz"conrtoversial"Mar 16 19:28
schestowitz"outspoken"Mar 16 19:28
schestowitzmeaning "speaks contrary to norms"Mar 16 19:29
schestowitzyou can be outspoken about norms, but that doesn't qualify as per de facto "outspoken"Mar 16 19:29
schestowitzBlair was very outspoken about WOMD in IraqMar 16 19:29
schestowitzKony Blair :-)Mar 16 19:30
schestowitzResponsible for radicalising the British population against innocent civilians (Iraqis) :-)Mar 16 19:31
qu1j0t3http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/cattle-pastures-in-deforested-amazon-now-the-size-of-iceland.htmlMar 16 19:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: Cattle Pastures in Deforested Amazon Now the Size of Iceland : TreeHugger .::. Size~: 38.57 KBMar 16 19:58
schestowitzdon't worry, there's lot of it leftMar 16 20:17
schestowitz!google bp big oceanMar 16 20:17
TechrightsSocial[1] - BP boss Tony Hayward admits job is on the line over Deepwater oil ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/13/bp-boss-admits-mistakes-gulf-oil-spillMar 16 20:17
TechrightsSocial[2] - BP: The Gulf Is a Big Ocean, Oil Spill Tiny in Comparison ... | http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bp-the-gulf-is-a-big-ocean-oil-spill-tiny-in-comparison-20449.htmlMar 16 20:17
TechrightsSocial[3] - Tony Hayward, BP CEO: Gulf Oil Spill 'Relatively Tiny' | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/14/bp-ceo-gulf-oil-spill-rel_n_576215.htmlMar 16 20:17
TechrightsSocial[4] - BP CEO says spill is minor compared with size of the Gulf - NYPOST ... | http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_ceo_says_spill_gulf_minor_compared_nDURatEARVBDVjbVgYoI9OMar 16 20:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1426136 "I figure they probably claimed malware to protect their brand more than because the claim was true "Mar 16 20:18
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Preliminary analysis of Anonymosus-OS: lame, but no obvious malware http://boingboing.net/2012/03/15/preliminary-analysis-of-anonym.html #ubuntu #anonymousMar 16 20:18
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Preliminary analysis of Anonymosus-OS: lame, but no obvious malware  - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 33.96 KBMar 16 20:18
schestowitzThey have a brand? :-)Mar 16 20:22
MinceRyesMar 16 20:24
schestowitzsounds like a "bad boy"-type brandMar 16 20:26
qu1j0t3[16:18:17]    @Specimen | speaking of police... My company received a letter from MS talking how is it illegal to pirate software etc... and offering a service (thru a 3rd party) for certifying that we only run    │Mar 16 20:26
qu1j0t3                          legitimate MS products                                                                                                                                                                      │Mar 16 20:26
qu1j0t3[16:18:56]    @Specimen | basically a certificate which the 3rd party communicates to MS that says that                                                                                                               │Mar 16 20:26
qu1j0t3[16:19:00]    @Specimen | so...                                                                                                                                                                                       │Mar 16 20:26
qu1j0t3[16:19:17]    @Specimen | here's the conundrum...                                                                                                                                                                     │Mar 16 20:26
qu1j0t3[16:19:36]    @Specimen | If someone refuses it raises suspiscion                                                                                                                                                     │Mar 16 20:26
schestowitzhttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Mar-16-1.htmlMar 16 20:40
TechrightsSocialTitle: Mono and Google Summer of Code - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 17.66 KBMar 16 20:40
schestowitz:/Mar 16 20:40
schestowitzi'll not give them publicityMar 16 20:40
schestowitzthey're kaput anywayMar 16 20:40
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91929176 http://identi.ca/notice/91929186Mar 16 23:51
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 16-Mar-12 20:52:38 UTC - Identi.ca: Amazon EC2 cloud is made up of almost half-a-million Linux servers http://ur1.ca/8p8oy #gnu #linuxMar 16 23:51
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Amazon EC2 cloud is made up of almost half-a-million Linux servers | ZDNet .::. Size~: 156.23 KBMar 16 23:51
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 16-Mar-12 20:52:47 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that does give you a warm feeling doesn't it.Mar 16 23:51
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/91931211Mar 16 23:51
TechrightsSocial@Kete Foy (kete)'s status on Friday, 16-Mar-12 22:09:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz ah, I wish I could help resurrect thatMar 16 23:51
qu1j0t3schestowitz: transparent tactic. https://twitter.com/#!/thinkprogress/status/179390133601189889Mar 16 23:55
TechrightsSocial@thinkprogress: Rush is suspending national ads for 2 weeks hoping you'll forget about Sandra Fluke. If you won't forget RETWEET THIS. http://t.co/BVW0rlWVMar 16 23:55
TechrightsSocial-> Title: BREAKING: Rush Limbaugh Syndicator Suspends National Ads For Two Weeks | ThinkProgress .::. Size~: 32.79 KBMar 16 23:55

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