Techrights logo

IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: March 19th, 2012

Join us now at the IRC channel.

schestowitzmy girl wrote to me a touching poem today....Mar 19 00:06
qu1j0t3:)Mar 19 00:13
schestowitztook her days, it's the intention that countsMar 19 00:15
qu1j0t3that's sweetMar 19 00:21
XFaCEschestowitz: That's so lameMar 19 02:28
XFaCElolMar 19 02:29
XFaCEJ/lMar 19 02:29
XFaCEJ/kMar 19 02:29
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Nobody writes poems in Canada like that eh?Mar 19 02:29
qu1j0t3XFaCE: i wrote one for my wife :) but I wasn't living in Canada at the time.Mar 19 02:31
XFaCEqu1j0t3: ah doesn't countMar 19 02:31
XFaCEqu1j0t3: where were you living?Mar 19 02:31
qu1j0t3south americaMar 19 02:31
XFaCESpecifically?Mar 19 02:32
qu1j0t3i don't get too specific on irc as a habitMar 19 02:32
XFaCEkkMar 19 02:35
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Where can I find George SoroMar 19 02:40
XFaCE's hide out? I need some pop tartsMar 19 02:40
qu1j0t3hahahaMar 19 02:43
qu1j0t3apparently that's a bad linkMar 19 02:43
qu1j0t3if you have a better link let me knowMar 19 02:43
XFaCEwww.what.huh?Mar 19 02:44
qu1j0t3yeah the site i link thereMar 19 02:45
qu1j0t3.chMar 19 02:45
XFaCEwikileaks?Mar 19 02:45
qu1j0t3yaMar 19 02:46
XFaCEwhat's wrong with ch?Mar 19 02:48
XFaCEqu1j0t3: works for meMar 19 02:51
qu1j0t3ok...Mar 19 02:59
XFaCEqu1j0t3: define "bad' in this caseMar 19 03:06
qu1j0t3somebody told me it's a broken link, but nmMar 19 03:14
*abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.)Mar 19 04:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1433523 "mmm, this is excelent, but the other question still remains, when are we gonna have games AAA natively in Linux? "Mar 19 07:00
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wine 1.5.0 released  http://ubuntugamingproject.blogspot.it/2012/03/wine-150-released.html #wine #unix #linuxMar 19 07:00
TechrightsSocial-> Title: UGP (Ubuntu Gaming Project): Wine 1.5.0 released .::. Size~: 93.32 KBMar 19 07:00
schestowitz"good question @Heavymetalmixer "Mar 19 07:00
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/rich_d_rich/statuses/181528323208388609Mar 19 07:04
TechrightsSocial@rich_d_rich: @schestowitz @normnz I feel the world *needs* a 'crazy drug-induced microkernel'Mar 19 07:04
MinceRi think what the world needs is rather a non-crazy microkernel that isn't drug induced :>Mar 19 07:46
MinceRunless the drug is caffeine, of coureMar 19 07:47
MinceRs/ure/urse/Mar 19 07:47
schestowitzqu1j0t3: XFaCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7vnHULlC8&feature=relmfuMar 19 07:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: Canada Is Dangerous! - Dick Cheney       - YouTube .::. Size~: 148.45 KBMar 19 07:48
MinceRhttps://mobile.twitter.com/GSElevatorMar 19 09:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter .::. Size~: 19.31 KBMar 19 09:51
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@139.brs0109.brs.iprimus.net.au) has joined #boycottnovell-socialMar 19 11:11
*oiaohm has quit (Changing host)Mar 19 11:11
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovell-socialMar 19 11:11
*oiaohm has quit (Quit: by all)Mar 19 11:36
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@139.brs0109.brs.iprimus.net.au) has joined #boycottnovell-socialMar 19 11:40
*oiaohm has quit (Changing host)Mar 19 11:40
*oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #boycottnovell-socialMar 19 11:40
*oiaohm has quit (Quit: by all)Mar 19 14:07
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/r39dc/sunside_games_to_release_crows_radiance_engine_as/Mar 19 14:53
schestowitz"agreed, it's nice to have lots of game engines though in source form - to mix and match where needed."Mar 19 14:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: Sunside Games to release Crow's Radiance engine as free open-source software : opensource .::. Size~: 42.36 KBMar 19 14:53
schestowitz[14:18] <XFaCE> scshunt is a former Google employee, and has opinions on the patent strategyMar 19 14:54
XFaCEschestowitz: thought you would like to hear his thoughtsMar 19 14:55
XFaCEschestowitz: he was confused by the recent Google europe move, the translation of patentsMar 19 14:55
schestowitzI see..Mar 19 14:56
schestowitzI got your PMMar 19 14:56
schestowitzwouldn't have noticed otherwiseMar 19 14:56
schestowitzflooded by IM from work, g/f, etc.Mar 19 14:56
schestowitzTrying to squeeze out some posts before going on duty tonightMar 19 14:56
XFaCEahMar 19 14:57
qu1j0t3schestowitz: infuriating https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/181764156876275712Mar 19 15:29
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: UK PM says country can't afford its own highways; plans to hand them over to #plutocracy http://t.co/eXHy5oLi #fraudMar 19 15:29
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.32 KBMar 19 15:29
qu1j0t3what's worse is the headline (in Toronto Star) implies that this will 'solve gridlock'Mar 19 15:37
qu1j0t3...Mar 19 15:38
schestowitztypicalMar 19 15:38
schestowitzsome stimilar stuff is done to privatise efineries the public paid to buildMar 19 15:38
schestowitzand other public assetsMar 19 15:38
schestowitzin other countriesMar 19 15:38
schestowitzhanded to special familiesMar 19 15:38
schestowitzthat they become super richMar 19 15:39
schestowitzand the public usually does not know that this is happeningMar 19 15:39
schestowitzsame with factoiries that exploit rare national resourcesMar 19 15:39
schestowitzpoliticians just allow them to silently pass from public hands to some family, without a clear explanation as to whyMar 19 15:39
schestowitzjust that it "will help"Mar 19 15:39
schestowitzsome fake crisis can helpMar 19 15:40
schestowitzthe UK sells its forests atmMar 19 15:40
qu1j0t3exactlyMar 19 15:49
qu1j0t3it was already done for your trains, wasn't it?Mar 19 15:49
qu1j0t3it was in Australia -- foreign multinationals took over and it was a disaster.Mar 19 15:49
schestowitzHere we have "Virgin"Mar 19 16:07
schestowitzBrannsonMar 19 16:07
schestowitzThey manage lots of the bookings nowMar 19 16:07
qu1j0t3wow.Mar 19 16:07
qu1j0t3in Australia it's ConnexMar 19 16:07
schestowitzthen they can call it "private property"Mar 19 16:07
schestowitzAnd asswhoop you if the service is crapMar 19 16:07
schestowitzcause it's not you who "paid" for utMar 19 16:07
schestowitzeven if the investment originally came from the publicMar 19 16:07
schestowitzso from owner you become consumerMar 19 16:08
schestowitzpublci riskMar 19 16:08
schestowitzpribvate profitMar 19 16:08
schestowitzlike banksMar 19 16:08
schestowitzthe public bulds itMar 19 16:09
schestowitzone family maintains and profit from itMar 19 16:09
schestowitzand i cannot loseMar 19 16:09
schestowitzit would be bailed out by the publicMar 19 16:09
schestowitzbecause "We must have trains"Mar 19 16:09
schestowitzor powerMar 19 16:09
schestowitzor saltMar 19 16:09
schestowitze.tvc.Mar 19 16:09
schestowitz"must have banks"Mar 19 16:09
schestowitzLOLMar 19 16:09
schestowitz"people would do a run on the bank"Mar 19 16:09
schestowitzi.e. people might find out what banks really areMar 19 16:10
schestowitzplaces that claim to keep money which does not really existMar 19 16:10
MinceRinvestors? :>Mar 19 16:10
schestowitzpaper-pushersMar 19 16:10
schestowitzhard work, let me tell ya... at any moment you might make a mistake that would cost you 2 yachtsMar 19 16:11
schestowitzimagine if the neighbours saw that !!Mar 19 16:11
schestowitzMinceR: new http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfwiUt3nHek&feature=digest_monMar 19 16:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: What Is An Atheist?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 150.73 KBMar 19 16:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1434528Mar 19 16:57
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: An Open Letter to Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8qa5x #ubuntu #gnu #linux #modemMar 19 16:57
TechrightsSocial-> Title: An Open Letter to Ubuntu - Goodbye, Microsoft® .::. Size~: 19.35 KBMar 19 16:57
schestowitzI asked Shuttleworth this questiMar 19 16:57
schestowitzbut he ignoedMar 19 16:57
schestowitz"In cases like this an inexpensive router that can initiate a PPP session over dialup is a better option. Then, one can simply plug in via ethernet. "Mar 19 16:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1435440Mar 19 16:58
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android/Linux is Taking Over Tablets  http://techrights.org/2012/03/19/android-and-racketeering/  #linux #android #tabletMar 19 16:58
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Android/Linux is Taking Over Tablets | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.93 KBMar 19 16:58
schestowitz"Mar 19 16:58
schestowitzYou've got to laugh at the difference in marketing for Apple Vs Android. Android devices with more power, better features and higher resolution than before have appeared 100's of times. It's considered business as usual.Mar 19 16:58
schestowitzApple increases the resolution of a device once and the fan boys sqeal that it's a revolution. *rolls eyes*Mar 19 16:58
schestowitz"Mar 19 16:58
schestowitz"Like :)"Mar 19 16:58
schestowitz"Mar 19 16:58
schestowitzyea silly apple fan children"Mar 19 16:58
qu1j0t3actually a display like that *is* extraordinary.Mar 19 17:01
qu1j0t3there are practically no *desktop* displays of that resolutionMar 19 17:01
qu1j0t3that said, i won't be buying Apple again, and i don't think anyone shouldMar 19 17:02
qu1j0t3we should not discuss whether 'X is more revolutionary than Android'; we should be tackling the precise issues involved, and also noting that those issues apply to all electronicsMar 19 17:02
qu1j0t3the issues of human rights in the supply chain, environmental unsustainability, waste, consumerism, and so on.Mar 19 17:03
qu1j0t3that's much more important than 'Android does stuff and nobody notices'Mar 19 17:03
qu1j0t3shut down APple and Android will be NOTICED. :)Mar 19 17:03
qu1j0t3i hate to think of the human costs and environmental costs of apple's new display. just to ship the quantity of devices since iPod points to a massively unsustainable impact.Mar 19 17:04
qu1j0t3in raw materials, waste, pollution, etc. / but heck it makes some people rich, so we're required to ignore all that.Mar 19 17:04
qu1j0t3look at batteries alone.Mar 19 17:05
schestowitzwhat about other phones?Mar 19 17:30
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2012/03/16/uk-phones-and-freedom/Mar 19 17:31
TechrightsSocialTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Using a Phone Anonymously in the UK .::. Size~: 36.87 KBMar 19 17:31
schestowitzThey're being made similarlyMar 19 17:31
schestowitzI think the problem is misplacedMar 19 17:31
schestowitzAnd not unique to phone or AppleMar 19 17:31
schestowitzApple is part of the problem for dismissing criticsMar 19 17:32
schestowitzI have not yet seen Google do thatMar 19 17:32
qu1j0t3schestowitz | what about other phones?      /// see what I wrote!Mar 19 17:32
qu1j0t3issues apply to all electronics <---------Mar 19 17:33
schestowitzahaMar 19 17:33
qu1j0t3it's not a battle between Apple and Android.Mar 19 17:33
qu1j0t3that's a political battle.Mar 19 17:33
qu1j0t3a paper battle.Mar 19 17:33
schestowitzrightMar 19 17:33
schestowitzpolitical-likeMar 19 17:33
qu1j0t3the really important ones deal with humans, the environment, the real victims of capitalism.Mar 19 17:33
schestowitzwrong dimensionMar 19 17:33
qu1j0t3Android wins, you're still left with Foxconn and China and a polluted world.Mar 19 17:34
schestowitzcapitalism or extreme capitalismMar 19 17:34
schestowitzor corporatism?Mar 19 17:34
qu1j0t3kill em all.Mar 19 17:34
schestowitzwhat will rule instead?Mar 19 17:34
qu1j0t3whatever we're doing, it's not working.Mar 19 17:34
schestowitzI guess that pricing up phonesMar 19 17:34
qu1j0t3"if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"Mar 19 17:34
qu1j0t3schestowitz: YES! YES!!!!!!!Mar 19 17:34
schestowitzfor:Mar 19 17:34
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Put the Real Fucking Price on Everything.Mar 19 17:34
schestowitz1) different condisionsMar 19 17:34
schestowitzhgiher wagesMar 19 17:34
schestowitzbvetter handling of toxinsMar 19 17:35
schestowitzas matter of lawMar 19 17:35
schestowitzno loophols through offhsoringMar 19 17:35
qu1j0t3"better handling of toxins" doesn't really cover it.Mar 19 17:35
schestowitz"BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT"S GONNA COST !!"Mar 19 17:35
schestowitz[meaning: money to the West]Mar 19 17:35
qu1j0t3we SHOULD be paying the full cost.Mar 19 17:35
qu1j0t3that would solve everythng.Mar 19 17:35
schestowitz[not cost to the living in the East]Mar 19 17:35
qu1j0t3it should be a crime to underprice anything.Mar 19 17:35
schestowitzWe pass the worth of their body to savings for us, here]Mar 19 17:35
schestowitzphones here cost like a tennerMar 19 17:36
schestowitzDECENT phonesMar 19 17:36
schestowitzwith camerasMar 19 17:36
schestowitzVGAMar 19 17:36
schestowitzand radio, mp3 player, battery, full keyboardMar 19 17:36
schestowitzthat cannot be good for workersMar 19 17:36
qu1j0t3or the environment.Mar 19 17:36
schestowitzbut they make up for it in airtimeMar 19 17:36
qu1j0t3disposable.Mar 19 17:36
schestowitzalthougn that's where the money goesMar 19 17:36
qu1j0t3all full of non-renewable resources.Mar 19 17:36
qu1j0t3and toxic.Mar 19 17:36
schestowitznot those who made the phonesMar 19 17:36
schestowitzairtimes are a form of taxMar 19 17:36
schestowitzon speechMar 19 17:36
schestowitzSMS does not cost a thingMar 19 17:37
schestowitzIt's latched onto the signal which is sent to the towerMar 19 17:37
schestowitzto locate the phoneMar 19 17:37
schestowitzsame packet, no additional costMar 19 17:37
schestowitzthus the restriction on lengthMar 19 17:37
schestowitzI think Nokia invented this centuries agoMar 19 17:37
qu1j0t3yet it's priced like windows. pure profit.Mar 19 17:45
*pidgin_log has quit (Quit: Leaving.)Mar 19 17:45
qu1j0t3monopolyMar 19 17:45
*pidgin_log (~roy@host86-147-16-124.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell-socialMar 19 17:47
schestowitzcartel evenMar 19 17:50
schestowitzbecause they set the priceMar 19 17:50
schestowitzand nobody is allowed to stop this cash cowMar 19 17:50
schestowitzthis is price-fixing conspiracy,a a collusion of sorts, but one needs political power to actually have people interveneMar 19 17:51
schestowitzRe: Apple launches some gadget. Nobody cares.Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Total washout in Blighty:Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> [quote]Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Apple Store staff outnumber queues as new iPad goes on saleMar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Braying hordes of fanbois hungry for new iPads failed to turn up outsideMar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Blighty's Apple stores today despite months of rumour, hype andMar 19 17:53
schestowitz> speculation. Although slab shoppers were nonchalant in London, they wereMar 19 17:53
schestowitz> positively wet in Scotland.Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> A queue of hundreds swiftly ebbed away outside the fruity tech titan'sMar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Regent Street outlet, allowing at least one punter who rocked up at 9amMar 19 17:53
schestowitz> to grab the improved fondleslab five minutes later.Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> [/quote]Mar 19 17:53
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/16/ipad_london_queue_hype/Mar 19 17:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: Apple Store staff outnumber queues as new iPad goes on sale • The Register .::. Size~: 28.23 KBMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Look at those pictures and tell me that isn't a cult. Seriously, take aMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> good look. It gives me the creeps just looking at them. UnfortunatelyMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> the iCult leaders seem to have lost their flock.Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> It seems to be the same story across the rest of Europe and Asia:Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> [quote]Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Close to 1,000 people queued up outside Apple’s flagship store inMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Manhattan but the iPad arrival drew a muted response in Europe andMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> smaller crowds than previous launches in Asia for a device short on newMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> technology.Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> ...Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> While the almost cult-like status of Apple shows no signs of waningMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> among consumers, Nath suggested that with Apple co-founder Steve JobsMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> now dead the momentum could start to taper off.Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> [/quote]Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle09.asp?xfile=data/technology/2012/March/technology_March32.xmlMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: No Page Found .::. Size~: 37.61 KBMar 19 17:54
schestowitz>    "taper off"Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Hehe!Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Even in iCult Central things aren't looking too rosy:Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> [quote]Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> BGR called a dozen Apple Stores in and around New York City between 5:00Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> p.m. and 5:30 p.m. EDT on Friday in order to find out whether or notMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> they still had the new iPad in stock. In years past, checks like theseMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> were fielded by apologetic sales associates breaking the news thatMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> launch-day inventory had been completely depleted. This year, however,Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> we didn’t find a single store in the New York area that reported aMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> complete stock-out.Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Of the 12 Apple Store we spoke with, each and every one still had iPadMar 19 17:54
schestowitz> Wi-Fi inventory available, with just four stores saying that 64GB modelsMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> were sold out in both black and white. Most stores reported having aMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> significant number of units still in stock and several said they wouldMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> likely still have inventory tomorrow. “We have plenty left,” one salesMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> representative replied when asked if there would likely be any unitsMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> remaining later this evening. “Take your time.”Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> [/quote]Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/16/ipad-launch-day-where-are-all-the-sell-outs/Mar 19 17:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: iPad launch day: Where are all the sell-outs? .::. Size~: 64.84 KBMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Personally I didn't even know Apple was going to dump another iTurd. IMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> can't even find many news stories on this non-event. Except this:Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> [quote]Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Does the new iPad have a heat problem?Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Previous-generation iPads have had heat problems. But the new iPad mayMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> have a unique issue due to the larger battery and chip.Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Heat has come up as an issue with previous generations of iPads. So,Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> that's not news. But the new iPad may have, in select cases, its ownMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> unique heat problems.Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> User forum postings (here and here) and a report seem to point to heatMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> as an issue for select users.Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> The problem area--based on forum links above--seems to be the a hot-spotMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> in the lower left corner of the unit.Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> In the worst case, the iPad shuts down and a message pops up, sayingMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> "the iPad needs to cool down," according to a Next Web report (linkMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> above).Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> [/quote]Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57399443-64/does-the-new-ipad-have-a-heat-problem/Mar 19 17:55
TechrightsSocialTitle: Does the new iPad have a heat problem? | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 85 KBMar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> These "select cases" account for 159 messages in two forums thus far,Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> and one direct report from a ZDNet reporter:Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> [quote]Mar 19 17:55
schestowitz> The ZDNet post made some not-so-auspicious comments, however, about theMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> new iPad.Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> "It felt like a much larger tablet then its predecessor, and far heavierMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> too," said ZDNet's Hana Stewart-Smith.Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> And maybe more ominously, she said this: "What surprised me most was theMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> heat emanating from the device. In the ten minutes or so that I had toMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> play around with it, I noticed that it became very warm, very quickly,Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> making me wonder how comfortable it might be for long term use."Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> [/quote]Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57398575-64/ipad-debut-gets-warm-reception-in-ginza/Mar 19 17:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: iPad debut gets 'warm' reception in Ginza | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 80.92 KBMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Three days in the wild, and the new iPants already has problems.Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Oh, and apparently Apple makes "less profit" on it than previous iPants,Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> which means they "only" make 100% profit on it now, instead of 118%:Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/New-iPad-32-GB-4G-Carries-364-35-Bill-of-Materials.aspxMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: New iPad 32GB + 4G Carries $364.35 Bill of Materials - Teardowns  at     iSuppli .::. Size~: 30.67 KBMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> And it was hacked within hours of launch:Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/new-ipad-jailbroken-three-ways-by-sunday-50007369/Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Meanwhile, CNet asks "Do consumers really understand why they need theMar 19 17:56
TechrightsSocialTitle: New iPad jailbroken three ways by Sunday | CNET UK .::. Size~: 59.38 KBMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> new thing from Apple?":Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> [quote]Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Some people don't have a clue as to why they need the new iPadMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Do consumers really understand why they need the new thing from Apple?Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> No, they don't, in many cases.Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Visits to two Apple stores on Friday confirmed my Apple Shiny SlabMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Theory. That is, some consumers, deep down, don't really know why theyMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> buy the newest Apple thing.Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:56
schestowitz> After attending a meeting in Hollywood on Friday, I stopped by an AppleMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> store down the street in Century City (aka, Beverly Hills) and anotherMar 19 17:56
schestowitz> in Santa Monica. I estimate I spent more than two hours total in thoseMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> two stores.Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> My intention was not only to try to gauge the level of interest in theMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> new iPad but also to form (I hoped) a bulletproof rationale forMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> upgrading from my iPad 2.Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> ...Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> But, ah, that new display. Everybody was obsessing about that. ThatMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> glorious, pixel-packing, eye-popping screen.Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Too bad most of the people--again, this just an infinitesimally smallMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> sample of people standing at the same table during the couple of hours IMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> was there--could not see the difference.Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> They squinted at text, flipped through photos, and scrolled up and downMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Web sites. And the refrain became predictable: "Hey, I still reallyMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> can't see any difference." Or bottom-liners would just say something toMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> the effect of: "No diff, man." (The latter group were typically at theMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> store very briefly and seemed to quickly decide that they weren'tMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> interested.)Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> ...Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Almost to a person these people did not seem to be tech savvy. TheyMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> didn't come into the store with notions dancing in their heads aboutMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Retina Displays, pixelation, quad-core graphics, or LTE vs. HSPA+.Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> So, this confirms my Apple Shiny Slab Theory. In short, certain buyersMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> will, zombie-like, march to the Apple store and part with their cash.Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Yeah, they have vague ideas about new cool tech, but it's all veryMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> vague.Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> [/quote]Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57399321-64/some-people-dont-have-a-clue-as-to-why-they-need-the-new-ipad/Mar 19 17:57
TechrightsSocialTitle: Some people don't have a clue as to why they need the new iPad | Nanotech - The Circuits Blog - CNET News .::. Size~: 93.17 KBMar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Mar 19 17:57
schestowitz> Yup, "zombie-like" pretty much sums up iCultists.Mar 19 17:57
MinceRthey differ in that real zombies have some respect for brains ;)Mar 19 18:22
schestowitzzombies had functioning brains in the pastMar 19 18:24
MinceRi know of at least one iCultist who used to have a functioning brainMar 19 18:31
schestowitzwho?Mar 19 18:32
MinceRjwzMar 19 18:32
schestowitzahMar 19 18:33
schestowitzthere's one iCultists who libels me nowMar 19 18:33
schestowitzderanged cultistMar 19 18:33
schestowitzBTW, Window Synder moved to AppleMar 19 18:33
schestowitzafter MS careerMar 19 18:33
schestowitzshe left mozillaMar 19 18:33
schestowitzgood riddanceMar 19 18:33
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/181813474794536960Mar 19 18:45
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Average wage of abused Bangladeshi workers producing #Nike, #Adidas and #Puma's Olympic shoes? 25 cents an hour. http://t.co/1pJPvu2UMar 19 18:45
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Ecoholic // Where can I find fair trade shoes? | NOW Magazine .::. Size~: 57.64 KBMar 19 18:45
schestowitzI might go to the lab for a week at the end of April. I need to know though, will there be a PC there ready for me to use? The last time I came there was not (the one I had set up vanished) and the admin spoke to a colleague about setting up a dedicated , refurbished one (no word since).Mar 19 19:08
schestowitzqu1j0t3: "we're doing them a favour!!"Mar 19 19:09
schestowitz"If we didn't give them jobs, they'd starve"Mar 19 19:09
schestowitz[same excuse for prostitutionMar 19 19:09
schestowitzAnd slavery]Mar 19 19:09
qu1j0t3!!Mar 19 19:12
schestowitzthe solution is, don't give the jobsMar 19 19:12
schestowitzfix the conditions that drive them into such bad payMar 19 19:13
schestowitzNot that this would happenMar 19 19:13
*schestowitz has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)Mar 19 19:16
*schestowitz (~schestowi@host86-147-16-124.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) has joined #boycottnovell-socialMar 19 19:18
*schestowitz has quit (Changing host)Mar 19 19:18
*schestowitz (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #boycottnovell-socialMar 19 19:18
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I might travel to Korea in DecemberMar 19 21:46
schestowitzI want to check out Singapore tooMar 19 21:46
qu1j0t3hehMar 19 21:46
schestowitzMaybe I can do activism from there tooMar 19 21:46
schestowitzCloser to the issuesMar 19 21:46
schestowitzHere you talk to iDevice zombiesMar 19 21:47
schestowitzThey don't see the victims as their own speciesMar 19 21:47
schestowitzIt's like speaking to Japanese about American.. or dolphins and whalesMar 19 21:47
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you'd really move to singapore??Mar 19 22:03
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the climate is pretty awfulMar 19 22:03
schestowitzYes, I heard soMar 19 22:13
schestowitzI'm talking about it right nowMar 19 22:13
schestowitzSee, her sister is there with her familyMar 19 22:13
qu1j0t3heheheheheheMar 19 22:13
qu1j0t3yeah, i knew it Mar 19 22:13
schestowitzHK is another opionMar 19 22:13
qu1j0t3ouchMar 19 22:13
schestowitzoptionMar 19 22:13
qu1j0t3heheMar 19 22:13
qu1j0t3better you than meMar 19 22:13
qu1j0t3i'd never live there. waste of money apart from anything else.Mar 19 22:14
schestowitzI spoke to lots of people about it,m som professors I knowMar 19 22:14
qu1j0t3low quality of life unless you're richMar 19 22:14
schestowitzOne of them traveled there like 50 timesMar 19 22:14
schestowitzSeems to be fashionable among businessmen these daysMar 19 22:14
schestowitzyeah, I hear HK has financial centre and rubbish on the sideMar 19 22:14
qu1j0t3no spaceMar 19 22:14
qu1j0t3extremely expensive rentsMar 19 22:14
schestowitzcheaper for food and housing as long as you're not in "the" clubMar 19 22:15
qu1j0t3low quality of lifeMar 19 22:15
qu1j0t3pollutionMar 19 22:15
qu1j0t3not for meMar 19 22:15
schestowitzMaybe we'll stay in the UK, just checking at the momentMar 19 22:15
qu1j0t3anywhere in South America is betterMar 19 22:15
qu1j0t3better food, quality of life, environmentMar 19 22:15
schestowitznot an option thoughMar 19 22:15
schestowitzs. americaMar 19 22:15
qu1j0t3heheheMar 19 22:15
schestowitztoo farMar 19 22:15
qu1j0t3from what? :)Mar 19 22:15
schestowitzand we don't speak spanishMar 19 22:15
schestowitzfrom everywhereMar 19 22:15
schestowitzbut we'll go to Korea this yearMar 19 22:16
schestowitzI'm looking not at 5 years from nowMar 19 22:16
schestowitzmore like 20Mar 19 22:16
schestowitzthe West is kind of a brewing disasterMar 19 22:16
schestowitzNow we talk about AustraliaMar 19 22:23
schestowitzMy friend who's a prof might move thereMar 19 22:23
schestowitzand she has cousins there, her sister considers moving there from Singapore, but they can't move their son thereMar 19 22:23
schestowitzqu1j0t3: is Aussie a mess?Mar 19 22:23
schestowitzYou left itMar 19 22:24
qu1j0t3well, "English Texas".Mar 19 22:24
qu1j0t3i found Canada refreshingMar 19 22:24
qu1j0t3but under Harper ... decliningMar 19 22:24
schestowitzI know someone from my gym who's moving thereMar 19 22:25
schestowitzAnd a mate's colleaue, who moved back there, to be paid double the sageMar 19 22:25
schestowitzwageMar 19 22:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there are things that bother me about Australia.Mar 19 22:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: racism, materialism, creeping AmericanisationMar 19 22:25
qu1j0t3schestowitz: and coupled with the Howard govt, enough to make me leaveMar 19 22:26
schestowitzI'm not sure how the law works there, but for EU nationals who get a job there I think migration should be possible, esp. if they can gain brainsMar 19 22:26
qu1j0t3schestowitz: too many great places in the world to be stuck in one like thatMar 19 22:26
schestowitzYes, UI heard soMar 19 22:26
schestowitzA friend of mine went there and came back to WalesMar 19 22:26
schestowitzhe didn't integrate wellMar 19 22:26
schestowitzSo where would you go?Mar 19 22:26
schestowitzYou don't like .auMar 19 22:26
schestowitzand not today's .caMar 19 22:26
schestowitzclearly not the us, .ch is lucrative but hard to get intoiMar 19 22:27
qu1j0t3well on the street, CA isnt much differentMar 19 22:27
qu1j0t3but the moral authority is goneMar 19 22:27
schestowitzit's not even a EU member Mar 19 22:27
qu1j0t3you know that it's being rotted outMar 19 22:27
qu1j0t3we're now into torture, weapons, intervention, human rights abusesMar 19 22:27
qu1j0t3and environmental destructionMar 19 22:27
qu1j0t3and an attack on civilised institutions across CanadaMar 19 22:27
qu1j0t3this cannot end wellMar 19 22:27
MinceRwhich country sucks least nowadays?Mar 19 22:27
MinceR(and why?)Mar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3there are plenty of good countries.Mar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3Portugal Mar 19 22:28
schestowitzyeah, as MinceR put itMar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3many in South AmericaMar 19 22:28
schestowitzPortugal is bankruptMar 19 22:28
MinceRPortugal is an EU member, unfortunatelyMar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: why is that important?Mar 19 22:28
schestowitznot good future prospectsMar 19 22:28
schestowitzand not so good for the working class, eitherMar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: that's a kind of kneejerk assessment Mar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i'd also live in Greece.Mar 19 22:28
schestowitzpolitical unrest, etc.Mar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: I buy used books, too.Mar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3schestowitz: no, there is not political unrest in portugal.Mar 19 22:28
schestowitzno issue with thatMar 19 22:28
qu1j0t3the unrest you are discussing is the GOOD kind!Mar 19 22:29
MinceRi've bought two used booksMar 19 22:29
qu1j0t3greeks are angry at austerity, as they should beMar 19 22:29
schestowitzok, lt's just say that portugal means new language for meMar 19 22:29
qu1j0t3that the greeks are angry at austerity endears me to the country rather than the contraryMar 19 22:29
schestowitzMinceR: used books are sold here at  1 pound a piece in some placesMar 19 22:29
qu1j0t3schestowitz: if canadians were burning things down, rioting, i'd feel much more comfortable about its futureMar 19 22:29
qu1j0t3schestowitz: but they ony do that at sports matchesMar 19 22:29
schestowitzhehe, well, shows the population has defeated corporate controlMar 19 22:30
qu1j0t3schestowitz: the G20 did not result in enough pushbackMar 19 22:30
qu1j0t3schestowitz: canadians are like americans now -- fat, comfortable, politically pushed around by scumMar 19 22:30
qu1j0t3schestowitz: give me Greece any day!!!!Mar 19 22:30
schestowitzI guess that too has its upsidesMar 19 22:30
qu1j0t3not really, because it dooms the futureMar 19 22:31
schestowitzfor those who look for a particular lifestyleMar 19 22:31
schestowitzand take children into accountMar 19 22:31
schestowitzlike, where it would be p;referable for children to grow upMar 19 22:31
schestowitzqu1j0t3: so, qu1j0t3, let me put it like thisMar 19 22:31
qu1j0t3schestowitz: definitely not HK!!!!!!!Mar 19 22:32
qu1j0t3omgMar 19 22:32
qu1j0t3for kids i meanMar 19 22:32
schestowitzFor young families, which country is a good place, looking ahead at scale of decades..Mar 19 22:32
qu1j0t3schestowitz: most places.Mar 19 22:32
schestowitzqu1j0t3: ok, thanks for the tipMar 19 22:32
qu1j0t3schestowitz: not north america, in my opinion.Mar 19 22:32
schestowitzHK off my listMar 19 22:32
qu1j0t3north america, australia are bad influences on kids unless you're well out of the city.Mar 19 22:32
schestowitzqu1j0t3: but what about languagesMar 19 22:32
qu1j0t3culturally, south america is idealMar 19 22:32
schestowitzwe only speak EnglishMar 19 22:32
qu1j0t3schestowitz: well you want them multilingualMar 19 22:33
qu1j0t3monolingualism is a curseMar 19 22:33
MinceRcanadians were always americansMar 19 22:33
MinceRjust not usians :>Mar 19 22:33
qu1j0t3MinceR: not really.Mar 19 22:33
schestowitzheheMar 19 22:33
qu1j0t3but things are getting worse here, i thinkMar 19 22:33
qu1j0t3bit by bitMar 19 22:33
schestowitzlots of resources, alasMar 19 22:33
MinceRin fact, even south america is americaMar 19 22:33
qu1j0t3Harper loves USA< loves bushMar 19 22:33
schestowitzgood community in VancouverMar 19 22:33
qu1j0t3MinceR: well, to that extent, the world is.Mar 19 22:33
schestowitzBut I don't know if EU citizens can easily migrate to .caMar 19 22:34
qu1j0t3MinceR: Australia is more americanised than Canada or South America.Mar 19 22:34
MinceRno, there are other continents :>Mar 19 22:34
schestowitzI don't want to depend on jobs for permits to stayMar 19 22:34
qu1j0t3at least that was true when i got here. not sure now.Mar 19 22:34
qu1j0t3MinceR: sure, but they're all "under the influence".Mar 19 22:34
qu1j0t3cultural imperialismMar 19 22:34
MinceRagain, oversimplifiedMar 19 22:35
MinceRthe culture is a european one :>Mar 19 22:35
schestowitzqu1j0t3: we're minimalistsMar 19 22:35
schestowitznot into consumerismMar 19 22:35
qu1j0t3MinceR: you know what I mean.Mar 19 22:35
schestowitzand best not to raise the kids on brands and toy collection maniaMar 19 22:35
qu1j0t3and no, the aspects I am atalking about are NOT EUropean.Mar 19 22:36
qu1j0t3they are anti-EuropeanMar 19 22:36
schestowitzbut s. america is Hispanic, very differentMar 19 22:36
qu1j0t3schestowitz: rightMar 19 22:36
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yet also "under the influence" as I have seen first hand.Mar 19 22:36
qu1j0t3schestowitz: but I have more hope for South America than Canada.Mar 19 22:36
schestowitzso Australia is culturally poisoned already you say...Mar 19 22:36
qu1j0t3yes.Mar 19 22:36
schestowitzI sense there would be immigration-induced inconveniences tooMar 19 22:36
schestowitzUnlike the UKMar 19 22:36
schestowitzWhat;'s wrong with the UK?Mar 19 22:37
schestowitzUnlike say, GreeceMar 19 22:37
schestowitzManchester is very multi0-culturalMar 19 22:37
schestowitzand not as "posh" and class-conscious as London areaMar 19 22:37
qu1j0t3well the UK has some of the appeal of Canada, to meMar 19 22:42
qu1j0t3but now i'm married, it doesn't really fit our plans,Mar 19 22:42
schestowitzShe is willing to be hereMar 19 22:42
qu1j0t3like south america doesn't fit yoursMar 19 22:42
schestowitzShe saidMar 19 22:42
schestowitzbut we check other possibilities. Once there are kids, it's hard to move,Mar 19 22:43
qu1j0t3so they say.Mar 19 22:43
schestowitzI can see what SAmerican suits yoursMar 19 22:43
qu1j0t3i don't really think it's axiomatic that kids limit travelMar 19 22:43
qu1j0t3they didn't for my parentsMar 19 22:43
schestowitzto me it has little or no appeal as an option on paperMar 19 22:43
qu1j0t3i think it's a mental, perception thingMar 19 22:43
schestowitznow as a place to move to from the UKMar 19 22:43
schestowitz*not as a placeMar 19 22:48
schestowitzshe'll ask her sisterMar 19 22:48
schestowitz"(22:45:19) Roy: It's good to have relatives nearvy"Mar 19 22:48
schestowitz"(22:45:13) Roy: Keep in close touch with her, maybe we can coordinate stuff, like... if they move "Mar 19 22:48
qu1j0t3hehMar 19 22:50
qu1j0t3well you should visit firstMar 19 22:50
qu1j0t3make sure you can stand the climateMar 19 22:51
qu1j0t3it can be pretty tough to cope with, i've spent some time in north east BrazilMar 19 22:51
schestowitzI hear about the humidity from people who were thereMar 19 22:54
schestowitzI can cope if I wear tshirts and cargo pantsMar 19 22:54

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!