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qu1j0t3schestowitz: but for a long period? it never lets up.Mar 20 00:07
qu1j0t3that's the killer.Mar 20 00:07
qu1j0t3365 days a year, never < 20CMar 20 00:07
qu1j0t3and never not humidMar 20 00:07
schestowitz[00:07] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: but for a long period? it never lets up.\Mar 20 00:38
schestowitzlifwMar 20 00:38
schestowitzlifeMar 20 00:38
schestowitzthat's why it's important to research thisMar 20 00:38
schestowitzjust been on the phone with her for almost 2 hoursMar 20 00:38
qu1j0t3you have to go thereMar 20 00:58
qu1j0t3talking doesn't help figure that outMar 20 00:58
qu1j0t3for a trial i meanMar 20 00:58
schestowitzyeah, we'll do that tooMar 20 01:03
schestowitzbut need to narrow down or rule out some thingsMar 20 01:20
schestowitzI've passed on parts of this chatMar 20 01:20
qu1j0t3schestowitz: i guess i'm wary of you letting other people's choices be your choicesMar 20 01:21
qu1j0t3i mean, it's pure accident that the sister is in singapore. that's circumstance. what's it to you?Mar 20 01:21
schestowitza gatewayMar 20 01:24
schestowitzanyway, late here, going to bed nowMar 20 01:24
schestowitzI think the economy here has more mileage leftMar 20 01:25
schestowitzunlike the US of AdvertisingMar 20 01:25
schestowitznot sure 30 years onwardsMar 20 01:25
schestowitzhard to predict in these scales, look at USSRMar 20 01:25
qu1j0t3a gateway to what?Mar 20 01:29
qu1j0t3why let vague economic predictions govern this?Mar 20 01:29
qu1j0t3in reality your quality of life will be dictated by micro-factors, local factorsMar 20 01:29
qu1j0t3and unpredictable factors like affinity for local cultureMar 20 01:30
qu1j0t3your quality of life won't be dictated by "oh, Singapore has a better 30 year prognosis than Greece"Mar 20 01:30
qu1j0t3i'd rather be poor on a greekisland than rich in a Hong Kong condoMar 20 01:31
qu1j0t3anyway)Mar 20 01:31
qu1j0t3in 30 years you could live in six different countriesMar 20 01:31
qu1j0t3i certainly know very happy families who've lived in ten or moreMar 20 01:31
qu1j0t3kids learned the languagesMar 20 01:31
qu1j0t3grow up with diversity and, well, reality. not TV.Mar 20 01:32
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: thanks for the tips, we appreciate itMar 20 09:36
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schestowitzI gather that you had no issues with the book you're not a gadget, qu1j0t3Mar 20 11:28
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/vvillenave/statuses/181782130559418368Mar 20 12:35
TechrightsSocial@vvillenave: We suspected it, it's now confirmed: #Mozilla has no balls. http://t.co/P4Bq7WVX #FaiF #H264 #swpatMar 20 12:35
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Video, user experience and our mission | Mitchell's Blog .::. Size~: 53.54 KBMar 20 12:35
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92026473Mar 20 13:20
TechrightsSocial@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-12 13:13:59 UTC - Identi.ca: "most [desktop?] users opted not to answer the question regarding !Ubuntu’s viability as platform for #cloud computing" http://ur1.ca/8qkslMar 20 13:20
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Open Source Cloud: Amazon EC2 Console Adds Ubuntu Support | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 90.45 KBMar 20 13:20
schestowitzsomething new for the lols: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/samsung-and-rim-sued-for-infringing-lol-worthy-emoticon-patent.arsMar 20 13:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: Samsung and RIM sued for infringing lol-worthy emoticon patent .::. Size~: 34.35 KBMar 20 13:45
qu1j0t3http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03/20/bbc_upstairs_we_watch_downstairs_you_pay/  │ Quo-fanMar 20 14:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: Big Media drags 142,000 through UK's courts IN A YEAR • The Register .::. Size~: 27.28 KBMar 20 14:06
qu1j0t3[09:41:38]    @Mathetes | [URL] Big Media drags 142,000 through UK's courts IN A YEARMar 20 14:06
qu1j0t3http://ask.slashdot.org/story/12/03/20/1337210/ask-slashdot-any-smart-phones-made-under-worker-friendly-conditions?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feedMar 20 14:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Ask Slashdot: Any Smart Phones Made Under Worker-Friendly Conditions?  - Slashdot .::. Size~: 93.76 KBMar 20 14:14
qu1j0t3http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/03/19/2220208/boycott-of-elsevier-exceeds-8000-researchers?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feedMar 20 14:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: Boycott of Elsevier Exceeds 8000 Researchers - Slashdot .::. Size~: 317.77 KBMar 20 14:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1435676Mar 20 14:21
schestowitz"This is an outrage. War criminals need access to Android service just anyone else does. "Mar 20 14:21
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android Continues To Ignore US Armed Forces  http://www.muktware.com/articles/3418/android-and-us-armed-forces #linux #androidMar 20 14:21
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Android Continues To Ignore US Armed Forces | Muktware .::. Size~: 32.78 KBMar 20 14:21
schestowitz"This is an outrage. War criminals need access to Android service just like anyone else does "Mar 20 14:21
schestowitzqu1j0t3: "Ask Slashdot: Any Smart Phones Made Under Worker-Friendly Conditions?  - Slashdot .::. Size~: 93.76 KB" YESMar 20 14:22
schestowitzBut they have gone extinct if they ever existedMar 20 14:22
schestowitzthey cannot competeMar 20 14:22
schestowitzthat's what regulation is forMar 20 14:22
schestowitzLike I say about religionsMar 20 14:22
schestowitzPeaecful one existMar 20 14:22
schestowitzbut cannot surviveMar 20 14:22
schestowitzthose that encourage mass breeding and conversion by force thriveMar 20 14:23
schestowitzIn capitalism, those which devalue the worker winMar 20 14:23
schestowitzmore hours, less payMar 20 14:23
schestowitz=profit!Mar 20 14:23
schestowitzRace the bottom (of the barrel)Mar 20 14:23
schestowitzthey're assumed to be worthless based on their jobsMar 20 14:24
schestowitznot their mindsMar 20 14:24
schestowitzor based on where they're bornMar 20 14:25
schestowitzIt's disgustingMar 20 14:25
schestowitzjust been talking to my mother about itMar 20 14:25
schestowitznot that she would do something about itMar 20 14:25
schestowitzthe jobs and brackets are set by those who earn too muchMar 20 14:25
schestowitzfor almost no actual kabourMar 20 14:25
schestowitzthis month I'm paid at like $80k/y and it hardly involves any actual work, it's just about getting the right positionMar 20 14:26
schestowitzdon't expect many people who are paid well to work for justiceMar 20 14:26
schestowitzLook at the syndrome of throwing cash from buildingsMar 20 14:27
schestowitzlike Gates FundiesMar 20 14:27
schestowitzPretending to care for the poor by exploiting them for publicity and foisting patents on themMar 20 14:27
qu1j0t3rightMar 20 14:33
qu1j0t3and it's accidental, temporary affluenceMar 20 14:33
qu1j0t3if you look at humanity like a petri dish of bacteria it all makes sense :)Mar 20 14:33
schestowitzsome people don't like this analogyMar 20 14:38
schestowitzthey spend all their lives trying to gain acceptance from other germsMar 20 14:38
schestowitz!google pale blue dotMar 20 14:38
TechrightsSocial[1] - Pale Blue Dot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_DotMar 20 14:38
TechrightsSocial[2] - Carl Sagan - Pale Blue Dot - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dp86BPM1GV8MMar 20 14:38
TechrightsSocial[3] - An Excerpt from A Pale Blue Dot - Explore the Cosmos | The ... | http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/voyager/pale_blue_dot.htmlMar 20 14:38
TechrightsSocial[4] - A Pale Blue Dot | http://www.bigskyastroclub.org/pale_blue_dot.htmMar 20 14:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1438229Mar 20 15:04
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What if Ubuntu were right? http://ploum.net/post/what-if-ubuntu-were-right #ubuntu #desktopMar 20 15:04
schestowitz"New proposed title: "What if journalists actually woke up?" ;) ... Sorry, couldn't resist that jab. "Mar 20 15:04
TechrightsSocial-> Title: What if Ubuntu were right? - Where is Ploum? .::. Size~: 58.75 KBMar 20 15:04
schestowitz"did some more work for a client today http://sjpropertyinvestment.com/Mar 20 16:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: SJ PROPERTY INVESTMENT UK: Susan Haslam .::. Size~: 74.27 KBMar 20 16:09
schestowitzstarts to look more decentMar 20 16:09
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/r4un0/what_if_ubuntu_were_right/Mar 20 16:13
schestowitz"Mar 20 16:13
schestowitzInteresting reading. It's hard to find a blogger discussing DEs these days who isn't either a slobbering fan or bitter hater.Mar 20 16:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: What if Ubuntu were right? : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 42.23 KBMar 20 16:13
schestowitzAnd I agree that Gnome is at the crossroads; Gnome 3 is a majestic stallion with no rider, or to drop the flat metaphors, a user experience with no technical platform. Fedora is... not temperamentally suited for wide adoption, shall we say, and it lacks a consumer device story.Mar 20 16:13
schestowitzUnity has Ubuntu. KDE has Vivaldi. What coherent package is Gnome OS a part of?Mar 20 16:13
schestowitz"Mar 20 16:13
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/r4uit/minix_320_the_little_operating_system_that_could/Mar 20 16:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: MINIX 3.2.0 - the little operating system that could? : opensource .::. Size~: 42.19 KBMar 20 16:14
schestowitz"Mar 20 16:14
schestowitzI found Minix to be a decent OS to learn from as it's not too large or complex and Tanenbaum's book was quite decent as those things go.Mar 20 16:14
schestowitzBeyond that, there's really not much further point in it nowadays. It probably still makes a fine learning tool as the other open systems have turned into very large and complex projects but there wouldn't be much point in running it.Mar 20 16:14
schestowitz"Mar 20 16:14
MinceRif ubuntu were right, we would have all happily moved to macos and there would have been no ubuntuMar 20 16:21
MinceRbut they're wrongMar 20 16:21
XFaCEMinceR: so you are diagreeing with JeeseMar 20 16:22
XFaCEor the commetatorMar 20 16:22
MinceRi'm not sure who jeese isMar 20 16:23
MinceRJonathan Riddell?Mar 20 16:23
schestowitzwhat's he up to now?Mar 20 16:23
schestowitzRed hate (sic.) should hire himMar 20 16:24
schestowitzmeh, I think I'll dent some news tonightMar 20 16:25
schestowitzno new postsMar 20 16:26
schestowitzXFaCE: do you have some new articles in the pipeline?Mar 20 16:26
schestowitzI wrote a short one about PP positionMar 20 16:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1439440Mar 20 16:26
TechrightsSocialNot a Diaspora post?Mar 20 16:26
XFaCEschestowitz: I'm waiting for the C11 results. Geist noted that the amended version has been officially publishedMar 20 16:27
XFaCEMinceR: I meant Jesse at DistrowatchMar 20 16:27
MinceRoh, dunno about thatMar 20 16:27
schestowitzXFaCE: oh, he reviews distros thereMar 20 16:29
schestowitzright?Mar 20 16:29
XFaCEyeahMar 20 16:29
XFaCEhe did one on minixMar 20 16:29
schestowitzI remember him...Mar 20 16:30
XFaCEI thought you linked to itMar 20 16:30
schestowitzand it's not "jeese"Mar 20 16:30
XFaCEsorryMar 20 16:41
XFaCEjesseMar 20 16:42
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schestowitzNice 瑨灴㩳⼯潪湩楤獡潰慲挮浯瀯獯獴ㄯ㌴㘸㈱Mar 20 16:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1438612Mar 20 16:55
TechrightsSocial@andr3yp@diasp.org: # A due Colori ### more .. http://vk.com/creative_activity #art #DigitalArt #Inspiration #SculptingMar 20 16:55
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1438612Mar 20 16:58
TechrightsSocial@andr3yp@diasp.org: # A due Colori ### more .. http://vk.com/creative_activity #art #DigitalArt #Inspiration #SculptingMar 20 16:58
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schestowitzqu1j0t3: got my mail?Mar 20 16:58
qu1j0t3dunno; i'm at work :)Mar 20 17:22
schestowitznever mind that, she found another personMar 20 17:31
schestowitz1. buy politicians. 2. pass new laws to legalise the unthinkable. 3. do the unthinkable. 4. pass laws to illegalise competition, critics. 5. profit!Mar 20 18:34
schestowitzI generally find that, a lot of people go through life "collecting stuff" - photos, objects, Facebook "friends". They never LIVE. They compete, they play  in a   "rat race".Mar 20 20:30
schestowitzpersonal POV, I don't want to care what people say or think. As long as we live in harmony with nature and society and are happy, that's all that matters.Mar 20 20:30
schestowitzsociety is mostly rotten now in many placesMar 20 20:30
schestowitzdaemonise simplicityMar 20 20:31

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