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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav Congratulations. Hope you sell a million! http://ur1.ca/8jrj1 #InconstantMoon | Mar 07 00:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Rep. Issa publishes #ACTA in entirety as part of an initiative to improve legislative transparency online - https://eff.org/r.1Us | Mar 07 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fdgraeve @ntone weet niet of dit eventueel zou kunnen helpen. Een lijst van alle dierenartsen in Gent http://ur1. ... | Mar 07 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Rep. Issa publishes #ACTA in entirety as part of an initiative to improve legislative transparency online - https://eff.org/r.1Us | Mar 07 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to !cc Lisa's Song http://www.ur1.ca/5h2oq @allison_crowe ⇒ Lisa Marie Young missing since June 30, 2002 http://www.ur1.ca/8jsgz | Mar 07 00:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jpope 1 copy down, 999,999 more to go. ;) Looks like I’ve got some reading to do now. :) #InconstantMoon http://ur1.ca/8jshr | Mar 07 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks @jpope :D | Mar 07 00:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Warner Bros: New Program To Digitize Your DVDs - Slashdot http://goo.gl/pBiS0 what things like #drm #dmca #acta bring! | Mar 07 00:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #PirateBox - David Darts Wiki http://goo.gl/qIGec just think #freedombox - #freedomtools | Mar 07 00:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Handbook explaining your electronic privacy rights at the Canadian border from the BCCLA - Boing Boing http://goo.gl/BM2aE #freedomtools | Mar 07 00:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pandalabs hacked by lulzsec in comeback following FBI raids http://t.co/AQhzVXqK #lulzsec #anonymous | Mar 07 01:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 11. The Media Can Legally Lie | Project Censored http://goo.gl/V5KiC (2005) #medialies #msm #usa | Mar 07 01:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Sorry iBooks, Paper #Books Still Win on Specs http://goo.gl/Rmpri | Mar 07 01:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange counts down to Swedish extradition | New Matilda http://t.co/lpHruEV0 | Mar 07 01:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AnonymousIRC Ohai Pandalabs and FBI. Whose head was cut off? We forgot. http://t.co/qtfHGZVo #AntiSec #Anonymous Expect us. | Mar 07 01:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stratfor emails contain alarming premonitions of Julian #Assange's situation now: Felicity Hill http://t.co/ihAcFV7I | Mar 07 01:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Israel ‘has decided to attack #Iran’, claims US intelligence source « intelNews.org http://goo.gl/ACGne | Mar 07 01:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Godin to authors: You have no right to make money any more http://goo.gl/7OZtC | Mar 07 01:40 | |
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| XFaCE | and panda software is down | Mar 07 01:40 |
| XFaCE | If that isn't a middle finger I don't know what is | Mar 07 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden's defence dept publicly slandering WikiLeaks while secretly building missile factory for Saudi Arabia http://t.co/RCFVNbP9 | Mar 07 01:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Free access to over 610 #Drupal video tutorials on #DrupalCon sprint day http://goo.gl/C9ifG | Mar 07 01:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Cleaning the pig: @Expressen's pseudo awards http://t.co/PIlASLXF | Mar 07 02:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] /me se prepara pra decepção de todo Entre Aspas (GloboNews) sobre assuntos de seu interesse. hoje, privacidade na Internet | Mar 07 02:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Do help the Free Anons solidarity network http://t.co/WbeP6JKl or join https://t.co/xWcS5ckQ | Mar 07 02:11 | |
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| XFaCE | If Apple doesn't change it's business model soon, it will not keep up with the pace. It will purchase companies at a higher price to combat its brain drain, akin to Nortel Networks and other pre-bubble tech companies in the 90s. | Mar 07 02:19 |
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| scientes | XFaCE, so devs leave apple? | Mar 07 02:31 |
| XFaCE | no, this is what a prof just said | Mar 07 02:32 |
| scientes | well what is the drain? | Mar 07 02:34 |
| scientes | if devs arnt leacving? | Mar 07 02:34 |
| XFaCE | the existing devs aren't enough | Mar 07 02:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] que diabo de debate é esse em que todo mundo joga pro mesmo time? :-/ | Mar 07 02:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: "Today my “Inconstant Moon” eBook is on #Amazon " http://www.ur1.ca/8jup9 !InconstantMoon !SelfPub | Mar 07 02:36 | |
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| XFaCE | scientes: They run out of ideas | Mar 07 02:40 |
| scientes | ahh | Mar 07 02:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks general rule on informers:trust only 1st degree relatives and those proven to have withstood plea deals previously.Look at costs. | Mar 07 02:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Tired of mobile apps tracking your habits? Mozilla's mobile OS introduces #DNTrack at the OS level. https://eff.org/r.U8t | Mar 07 02:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oooh - is strikeout text a federation goodie? | Mar 07 02:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff Tired of mobile apps tracking your habits? Mozilla's mobile OS introduces #DNTrack at the OS level. https://eff.org/r.U8t | Mar 07 02:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @OpenMedia_ca Audio: @jessebrown talks to @russellmcormond about digital locks & the !Copyright bill !c11 http://www.ur1.ca/8juxj !CDNpoli | Mar 07 02:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Warner Bros. Embarrasses Self, Everyone, With New “Disc-to-Digital” Program http://www.ur1.ca/8jo2d !CDNpoli !C11 #OMG !copyright | Mar 07 02:55 | |
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| XFaCE | warner bros hasn't embarrassed itself | Mar 07 02:55 |
| XFaCE | warner bros IS an embarrassment | Mar 07 02:56 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @eff Tired of mobile apps tracking your habits? Mozilla's mobile OS introduces #DNTrack at the OS level. https://eff.org/r.U8t | Mar 07 03:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh cool :D Thanks @lnxwalt280 | Mar 07 03:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav Happy !Birthday Mary Wilson of the Supremes, 68 today. !listening to "Touch" !RnB http://identi.ca/url/67680855 | Mar 07 03:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Howdy, y'all. We're going to Texas this weekend for #SXSW. Check out our list of panels: https://eff.org/r.1Uu | Mar 07 03:30 | |
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| *scientes wonders what OS this runs http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DVD-S68 | Mar 07 03:47 | |
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| scientes | probably some RTOS | Mar 07 03:47 |
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| scientes | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/01/why-doesnt-anyone-give-a-crap-about-freedom-zero.html | Mar 07 04:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Just found this 2010 blog post by @selenamarie. Critics of my #denticide should read it. http://ur1.ca/0fz6v | Mar 07 04:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Interesting comments on Reddit - http://redd.it/qkfri #opensource #raspberryPi | Mar 07 04:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Interesting comments on @reddit | http://redd.it/qkfri #opensource #raspberryPi | Mar 07 05:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] This is AWESOME: http://is.gd/ovNmod - Kid Rock once again proves his creative talent. Stunning. | Mar 07 05:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | jono: I have faith | Mar 07 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | Praise Xenu! | Mar 07 05:48 |
| scientes | https://www.networkworld.com/cgi-bin/mailto/x.cgi?pagetosend=/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.html&pagename=/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.html&pageurl=http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.html&site=printpage&nsdr=n | Mar 07 06:09 |
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| scientes | "There are some things I can't do. I'm using a rather slow computer because it's the only laptop with a free BIOS," Stallman says. gNewSense is the only totally free distribution that will run on the Lemote, which has a MIPS-like processor, he says. The Lemote had come with another GNU/Linux distribution that included non-free software, and Stallman replaced it with gNewSense. | Mar 07 06:09 |
| scientes | bulshit, i bet anything Debian will run on it | Mar 07 06:09 |
| scientes | i find Debian and the FSF not agreeing annoying | Mar 07 06:10 |
| scientes | "Stallman has failed to break the Microsoft/Apple dominance of the desktop computer market, not to mention Apple's dominance of tablets. But the free software movement he created did lead to the proliferation of Linux-based servers which are prevalent in data centers and power much of the Internet. This is perhaps ironic because Stallman expresses resentment about the credit given to the Linux kernel at the expense of his own GNU operating s | Mar 07 06:11 |
| scientes | ystem. " | Mar 07 06:11 |
| scientes | and that paragraphc doesn't even make any sense | Mar 07 06:11 |
| scientes | every one of those servers runs GNU | Mar 07 06:11 |
| scientes | and is compiled with GCC | Mar 07 06:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @joncruz "Impressed by the #DRM free ebook selection at http://ur1.ca/8jxww heed @mako's http://ur1.ca/8jm9o ..." !books | Mar 07 06:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, GNU is about 8% of a Linux distribution | Mar 07 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | that's including GCC | Mar 07 06:28 |
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| DaemonFC | and distributions won't require GCC forever | Mar 07 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | it's getting to where LLVM can compile most things without failing, give it another year or two and it will probably compile everything in Debian | Mar 07 06:29 |
| brendyn | scientes: "totally free distribution" | Mar 07 06:33 |
| scientes | brendyn, yes i saw that | Mar 07 06:34 |
| scientes | the only thing they have against Debian anymore is that they have "non-free" repos | Mar 07 06:34 |
| brendyn | Then I don't understand your comment about debian. | Mar 07 06:35 |
| scientes | which if you browse it is pretty damn conservative, although nvidia+fglrx+flash remain big problems to be fixed | Mar 07 06:35 |
| brendyn | I though debian also has nonfree linux? | Mar 07 06:35 |
| scientes | however Debian wont ship alot of GNU manuals | Mar 07 06:35 |
| prurigro | scientes: I recently upgraded to nouveau | Mar 07 06:35 |
| prurigro | its totally ready | Mar 07 06:35 |
| scientes | cause they don't agree with GFDL that has invarient (non-editable_ sections | Mar 07 06:35 |
| scientes | yes nouveau+radeon are making alot of progress | Mar 07 06:36 |
| scientes | there is also PowerVR + Mali GPUs | Mar 07 06:36 |
| scientes | that need work | Mar 07 06:36 |
| scientes | Mali driver=lima | Mar 07 06:36 |
| scientes | very limited work on the GMA500 version of PowerVR | Mar 07 06:36 |
| prurigro | nouveau is less buggy, and despite slightly fewer fps in glxgears, shows no difference in 3d desktop use or the games I tested (including torchlight in wine) | Mar 07 06:36 |
| scientes | hmm | Mar 07 06:36 |
| scientes | i've had really bad performance with World of Warcraft on ATI cards | Mar 07 06:37 |
| scientes | while with nvidia cards it works well | Mar 07 06:37 |
| prurigro | nvidia has always had better linux support if you include their closed drivers... well, I guess since pre-radeon | Mar 07 06:37 |
| prurigro | my rage128 ran quake3 perfectly | Mar 07 06:38 |
| prurigro | on the open driver | Mar 07 06:38 |
| scientes | yeah | Mar 07 06:39 |
| scientes | nvidia propritary is the only thing i've seen that can run wow | Mar 07 06:39 |
| scientes | and wow is quite old | Mar 07 06:39 |
| prurigro | I'm sure nouveau could do it too now | Mar 07 06:39 |
| prurigro | actually | Mar 07 06:39 |
| scientes | it even has a opengl mode too | Mar 07 06:40 |
| scientes | so its on the better side of 3D programs | Mar 07 06:40 |
| prurigro | I remember some kids got it running on an eeepc 701 (the first one), which had an intel card | Mar 07 06:40 |
| scientes | well, the only intel graphics ive had was GMA 500, which is PowerVR madness | Mar 07 06:40 |
| scientes | that was a mistake purchase | Mar 07 06:41 |
| scientes | i bought it for the lower power consumption | Mar 07 06:41 |
| scientes | but didn't realize the graphics chip was horribly supported | Mar 07 06:41 |
| prurigro | ohh hmm, that's no good | Mar 07 06:42 |
| prurigro | not opensourced? | Mar 07 06:42 |
| MinceR | 072821 < DaemonFC> well, GNU is about 8% of a Linux distribution | Mar 07 06:50 |
| MinceR | citation needed | Mar 07 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://pedrocr.net/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux | Mar 07 06:50 |
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| DaemonFC | there's more Linux than GNU | Mar 07 06:51 |
| scientes | prurigro, its because they licenced it from PowerVR | Mar 07 06:51 |
| scientes | and PowerVR doesn't have a FOSS driver | Mar 07 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | and there's more KDE than GNOME | Mar 07 06:51 |
| scientes | intel open-sources the drivers to all the GPUs they design | Mar 07 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I use Linux/KDE/GNU/Mozilla | Mar 07 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | but I'm sure I'm still leaving out more than half | Mar 07 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 06:52 |
| MinceR | ooh, so much more Linux than GNU | Mar 07 06:52 |
| prurigro | scientes: ahh, that's lame-- I woulda just worked on my own implementation if I was intel | Mar 07 06:52 |
| brendyn | that old pathetic argument again... | Mar 07 06:52 |
| MinceR | you forgot to mention that Linux came out to 9% :> | Mar 07 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | and GCC itself is about a third of GNU | Mar 07 06:52 |
| MinceR | i guess DaemonFC will call this OS "Other" | Mar 07 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | so you get rid of that and you're down to like 5-6% | Mar 07 06:52 |
| scientes | <brendyn> that old pathetic argument again... | Mar 07 06:52 |
| scientes | agreed | Mar 07 06:52 |
| scientes | but i don't know how else to say it | Mar 07 06:53 |
| scientes | GMA 500 from intel sucks | Mar 07 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | you use a replacement libc, and you're down to something like 4% of the remaining distribution being GNU | Mar 07 06:53 |
| MinceR | i'm surprised that there's not so many LOC in X | Mar 07 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | and theres LLDB | Mar 07 06:53 |
| MinceR | you use a replacement libc, and you're most likely using a crippled system | Mar 07 06:53 |
| MinceR | yay for bionic libc | Mar 07 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | so there goes another 14% of GNU | Mar 07 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB is hardly necessary | Mar 07 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's used for political reasons | Mar 07 06:53 |
| MinceR | KDE is hardly necessary too | Mar 07 06:54 |
| scientes | MinceR, the android loader only supports up to 96 shared libraries | Mar 07 06:54 |
| MinceR | and you can replace Linux too (see Debian GNU/kFreeBSD) | Mar 07 06:54 |
| scientes | what a POS | Mar 07 06:54 |
| scientes | it breaks libreoffice for example | Mar 07 06:54 |
| scientes | <DaemonFC> GRUB is hardly necessary | Mar 07 06:54 |
| scientes | <DaemonFC> it's used for political reasons | Mar 07 06:54 |
| scientes | bullshit | Mar 07 06:54 |
| DaemonFC | they replaced a perfectly working bootloader with that GRUB shit | Mar 07 06:55 |
| MinceR | also, there are good reasons to use GRUB | Mar 07 06:55 |
| scientes | bullshit | Mar 07 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | the original GRUB I mean | Mar 07 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | the one that corrupts most file systems | Mar 07 06:55 |
| brendyn | i just try use gnu in the name because they are only component that cares about free software | Mar 07 06:55 |
| scientes | bullshit | Mar 07 06:55 |
| MinceR | for example, it can find the kernel by its path, no need to hack about in userspace | Mar 07 06:55 |
| MinceR | and it allows the user to change the kernel command line before booting | Mar 07 06:55 |
| scientes | I mean, i would much rather use coreboot instead of GRUB | Mar 07 06:55 |
| scientes | but that really isn't an option ATM | Mar 07 06:55 |
| cubezzz | I boot with coreboot | Mar 07 06:56 |
| scientes | sweet | Mar 07 06:56 |
| scientes | and kexec straight to your main kernel? | Mar 07 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | I used LILO for a long time because of what GRUB tended to do unless you were using Ext2 and aybe Ext3 | Mar 07 06:56 |
| cubezzz | on gigabyte motherboards at least | Mar 07 06:56 |
| scientes | or do you use grub? | Mar 07 06:56 |
| scientes | i guess grub on flash wouldn't be that bad | Mar 07 06:57 |
| cubezzz | well it's dual boot with freedos so yeah I still use grub | Mar 07 06:57 |
| scientes | but id still rather put linux on flash, and then kexec from that | Mar 07 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't start using GRUB again regularly until the GRUB 2 project started stabilizing | Mar 07 06:57 |
| cubezzz | to select the OS | Mar 07 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | the original GRUB was barely usable since it didn't support any high performance file systems | Mar 07 06:57 |
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| DaemonFC | well, it said it did | Mar 07 06:57 |
| DaemonFC | if you wanted it to possibly wreck them | Mar 07 06:58 |
| cubezzz | T61 is supported too | Mar 07 06:58 |
| cubezzz | you just have to be selective with your hardware | Mar 07 06:58 |
| scientes | cubezzz, T61? | Mar 07 06:59 |
| scientes | how about the E-350? | Mar 07 06:59 |
| cubezzz | thinkpad | Mar 07 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | eventually Busybox might even be replaced | Mar 07 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | Toybox is making good progress | Mar 07 06:59 |
| DaemonFC | that would be unfortunate though, since Busybox is usually the only reason GPL violators get sued | Mar 07 07:00 |
| prurigro | closer to gnutils? | Mar 07 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | which is why they're all throwing in to replace it | Mar 07 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA2NzA | Mar 07 07:01 |
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| DaemonFC | the horror | Mar 07 07:01 |
| cubezzz | umm sorry not T61 | Mar 07 07:02 |
| cubezzz | X60 | Mar 07 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA2Njk | Mar 07 07:02 |
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| scientes | i'd like to get coreboot going on my E-350 | Mar 07 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | Crossover now runs MS Office 2010 so MinceR can run his GNU/MS Office | Mar 07 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 07:03 |
| cubezzz | scientes, it's hard to get a new laptop supported | Mar 07 07:03 |
| scientes | no, its mini-itx | Mar 07 07:03 |
| cubezzz | oh | Mar 07 07:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Wait! When did I start #tweeting more than #denting? This needs to be fixed !tzag !identiverse | Mar 07 07:03 | |
| scientes | http://www.giadapc.com/products/mainboard/MI-E350.html | Mar 07 07:04 |
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| scientes | maybe | Mar 07 07:04 |
| scientes | wait this one: http://www.giadapc.com/products/mainboard/MI-E350T.html | Mar 07 07:04 |
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| cubezzz | scientes, probably easier to start with something coreboot supports already | Mar 07 07:04 |
| scientes | they support one that has the same processor | Mar 07 07:04 |
| scientes | they support this one | Mar 07 07:04 |
| scientes | http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=E350M1 | Mar 07 07:04 |
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| scientes | or same APU | Mar 07 07:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @bachitux Phoronix: #NVIDIA Is Joining The !Linux Foundation http://goo.gl/QL3Lb ... Sorry, not for an open-driver! | Mar 07 07:05 | |
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| scientes | these APU boxes don't have a northbridge | Mar 07 07:05 |
| scientes | that is on the chip | Mar 07 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia in The Linux Foundation? | Mar 07 07:05 |
| DaemonFC | they'll let anyone in won't they? | Mar 07 07:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @iNisa What Every Programmer Should Know About SEO is.gd/7IqGI2 | Mar 07 07:06 | |
| scientes | they have the same southbridge i think too | Mar 07 07:07 |
| scientes | check out how slim that thing is | Mar 07 07:09 |
| scientes | but yeah, didn't realize they had a supported motherboard of this same APU/SoC | Mar 07 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I'd consider FreeBSD if they would implement support for recent Radeon cards | Mar 07 07:09 |
| scientes | or i would have probably gotten the supported one | Mar 07 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | I have a feeling that this might not materialize | Mar 07 07:09 |
| cubezzz | I have a asrock board still in the box | Mar 07 07:10 |
| cubezzz | probably a different one though | Mar 07 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | the worse the thing runs on desktops the more you hear them say "It's for servers" | Mar 07 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much the only Radeons that have no real open source support for Linux/X/Mesa are the new 7000s | Mar 07 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's coming, but it might not be for several months | Mar 07 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | the hardware is the biggest change for the Radeon line up since the RadeonHD was introduced | Mar 07 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | from their roadmap, they're going to start by basically gutting their existing driver code down to what they can use and starting from there | Mar 07 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | it will be the end of the year before you even see EXA and kernel mode setting support for those | Mar 07 07:12 |
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| scientes | 8 Mb Flash ROM | Mar 07 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | unless you want to get by with Catalyst for the next year, jsut get something from the 6000 series or older | Mar 07 07:13 |
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| DaemonFC | (and I don't know who would want that) | Mar 07 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu might think it's OK that the X server crashes when you play a video | Mar 07 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | but I certainly don't | Mar 07 07:13 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose there's a chance that AMD could seed Ubuntu with a Catalyst bundle that doesn't do that before 12.04 goes out, but since they missed last month's release for Linux and Windows while trying to get a Vista 8 driver out, I wouldn't count on it | Mar 07 07:15 |
| MinceR | 080256 < DaemonFC> Crossover now runs MS Office 2010 so MinceR can run his GNU/MS Office | Mar 07 07:16 |
| MinceR | you mean you can finally have your Ribbon? | Mar 07 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | Pabst Blue Ribbon | Mar 07 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | taste the aluminum shavings! | Mar 07 07:16 |
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| scientes | hahaha ribbon | Mar 07 07:18 |
| scientes | that insanity | Mar 07 07:18 |
| scientes | a MS developer left over thatshit | Mar 07 07:19 |
| MinceR | :D | Mar 07 07:19 |
| scientes | senior guy that had been around since access 1997 | Mar 07 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | there was a proposal to make OOo"ribbon"ized at one point | Mar 07 07:20 |
| scientes | https://openworld2010.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/veteran-developer-ditches-microsoft-for-open-source/ | Mar 07 07:20 |
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| scientes | “It was the sweeping land grab by Microsoft that pissed me off.” | Mar 07 07:20 |
| scientes | some evidence on who this guy is: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Mike_Gunderloy_on_Access_Perfection_.aspx | Mar 07 07:20 |
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| MinceR | it was intended to be optional in ooo, wasn't it? | Mar 07 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | I don't remember | Mar 07 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | nobody wanted it | Mar 07 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | and it went away | Mar 07 07:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Notes from today's Canonical Community Team meeting - http://is.gd/BbaKmw #ubuntu #locoteams | Mar 07 07:21 | |
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| scientes | its not really that bad of an idea | Mar 07 07:22 |
| scientes | its just MS's bullshit | Mar 07 07:22 |
| MinceR | "the collective wisdom represented by Microsoft's product designers" | Mar 07 07:23 |
| MinceR | lol wut | Mar 07 07:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] mari0 - A mashup between Portal and SuperMario ur1.ca/8jyx7 wait, what?! #games !linux | Mar 07 07:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] If you use special characters often, here is a simple tricks that might make your life a million times easier! http://fsmsh.com/3724 | Mar 07 08:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When OpenSUSE Falls http://ur1.ca/8jz1t #suse #opensuse | Mar 07 08:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] If you're stuck with Windows and just cannot give up your trusted GNU utilities,here is a lightweight solution for you http://fsmsh.com/3728 | Mar 07 08:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Sysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.2.0-18-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.8.1 (4.8.1), CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 3000 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 27/938GB, RAM: 7826/7986MB, 170 proc's, 2.44h up | Mar 07 08:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Internet Traffic should be down by 50% now with Facebook down ;-) | Mar 07 08:03 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/255740/win-desktop-canonical-changes-rules | Mar 07 08:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Buys Vista 8 Reviews by Bribing Journalists Again http://ur1.ca/8jz5b #vista8 | Mar 07 08:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | Unity still has a lot of bugs | Mar 07 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | I tried out a daily CD and was, underwhelmed | Mar 07 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | what kind of a fucking package manager hides everything without a GUI and gives you a frowny face when you try searching for something that is there, but which it refuses to show? | Mar 07 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's like AOL made sweet sweet love to GNOME 3 | Mar 07 08:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 08:10 |
| brendyn | kde seems to be getting prettier | Mar 07 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | then something weird was going on with the "lenses" and half the stuff I tried clicking on didn't actually do anything | Mar 07 08:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates Pays the BBC, Gets Coverage From the BBC http://ur1.ca/8jz9i #billgates | Mar 07 08:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0vy33Br_3s | Mar 07 08:18 |
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| DaemonFC | "one more thing" | Mar 07 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | "none of them want to pay taxes again.....ever" | Mar 07 08:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @MsLods Re #TPPA Australia's chief negotiator said could not give assurance that it would not require change to Australia's IP law. | Mar 07 08:20 | |
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| prurigro | DaemonFC: I was reading this article by this self described windows fanboy who was absolutely horrified by windows 8, and he'd decided to make the switch to linux, and knowing all the hate against unity, still seemed to love it | Mar 07 08:23 |
| prurigro | I've also run into some corporate folks who've been rather privy to it-- can't help but think maybe unity is designed for the windows brain | Mar 07 08:23 |
| DaemonFC | I think KDE should be readily usable by anyone who is familiar with any verion of Windows since 95 | Mar 07 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | that's only most of the planet | Mar 07 08:25 |
| prurigro | it is 'rather' similar | Mar 07 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 08:25 |
| prurigro | I was actually looking at KDE tonight searching through youtube videos to show a possible linux convert gnome and kde after they asked if linux had a gui | Mar 07 08:25 |
| prurigro | gotta say, it looks rather nice | Mar 07 08:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Financing and Foundations http://ur1.ca/8jzfk #billgates | Mar 07 08:26 | |
| DaemonFC | this "post-PC" thing is a fad | Mar 07 08:26 |
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| prurigro | post-pc? | Mar 07 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | sure, tablets are popular and they're getting more popular | Mar 07 08:27 |
| prurigro | ahh | Mar 07 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | but they're not fit to replace a PC | Mar 07 08:27 |
| prurigro | tablets are frustratingly casual | Mar 07 08:27 |
| prurigro | yea | Mar 07 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | and won't be for a long time | Mar 07 08:27 |
| prurigro | a tiling window manager is more productive than a tablet | Mar 07 08:27 |
| prurigro | not to say tiling wms aren't productive | Mar 07 08:28 |
| prurigro | but they're like tiling without the tile feature | Mar 07 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | there's still plenty of things you sacrifice for that mobility | Mar 07 08:28 |
| schestowitz | "Yes. Do I win the prize? " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1384449 | Mar 07 08:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is Ubuntu 12.04 a Linux Game Changer? http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-ubuntu-12.04-a-linux-game-changer-1.html #ubuntu #unity | Mar 07 08:28 |
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| prurigro | DaemonFC: at least windows 8 for tablets allows multiple apps at once, sort of- but yea, I'd take gnome3/kde4 on my tablet if they were hardware supported | Mar 07 08:29 |
| prurigro | maybe dual boot android for games or something | Mar 07 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | Plasma Active is just a KDE based Linux distro | Mar 07 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | it has real multitasking | Mar 07 08:29 |
| prurigro | so does android, technically | Mar 07 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | Archos is looking into Plasma Active as an Android alternative for their tablets | Mar 07 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | they're funding part of that project | Mar 07 08:30 |
| prurigro | but if its KDE I assume you can still manage windows | Mar 07 08:30 |
| prurigro | and word | Mar 07 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | kwin_gles is the window manager | Mar 07 08:30 |
| DaemonFC | the same kwin_gles I'm using right now on my PC | Mar 07 08:31 |
| prurigro | word, you don't say | Mar 07 08:31 |
| prurigro | how does that feel in tablet mode? | Mar 07 08:32 |
| prurigro | since I assume that'd be default | Mar 07 08:32 |
| DaemonFC | the OpenGL ES port of kwin was mainly intended for tablets | Mar 07 08:32 |
| prurigro | oh hmm, is that also what you're running? | Mar 07 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | but it has improved performance over the OpenGL version | Mar 07 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | mainly because it doesn't use GLX | Mar 07 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I use it because it performs better | Mar 07 08:34 |
| prurigro | oh wait, what's the difference between opengl es and glx? | Mar 07 08:34 |
| prurigro | isn't glx simply opengl? | Mar 07 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 07 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | GLX binds OpenGL to the X server | Mar 07 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | EGL is independent of the X server | Mar 07 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | but in this case, it can still use it as a backend for certain things like window position updates | Mar 07 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | when the time comes to move to Wayland, it will happen transparently to applications using OpenGL ES because they will still interact with EGL | Mar 07 08:37 |
| prurigro | oh hmm, so like, the calculations are done behind the scene, and then its drawn to the x server, or whatever else, using that renderer's builtin display mechanism? | Mar 07 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | it will just have a Wayland backend instead of one for X | Mar 07 08:37 |
| prurigro | ahh | Mar 07 08:37 |
| prurigro | yea, I figured that might have sparked it | Mar 07 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | you can also use EGL on Windows or OS X | Mar 07 08:37 |
| prurigro | wait though, shouldn't glx technically be faster? despite less portable? | Mar 07 08:37 |
| prurigro | and do you think this would work for android as well? | Mar 07 08:37 |
| prurigro | oh cool | Mar 07 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | or with the window managers provided by Android or iOS | Mar 07 08:38 |
| prurigro | cool | Mar 07 08:38 |
| prurigro | that sounds like a better solution, definitely | Mar 07 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | GLX is actually slower because the X server still has to be involved in the drawing of windows, even though it's not actually drawing them | Mar 07 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of operations end up happening twice when you use that | Mar 07 08:39 |
| prurigro | ohhh hmm, yea, I sorta remember that being an issue with compiz way back | Mar 07 08:40 |
| prurigro | you could either have all these bugs with display, or you could have things drawn twice, once in the background | Mar 07 08:40 |
| prurigro | which would be what opengl es would be doing anyway, except without the attachment eh? | Mar 07 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | EGL is just using X as a dumb pass through and to get window positioning updates (DAMAGE) | Mar 07 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | everything else is between the window manager, EGL itself, and the OpenGL ES driver | Mar 07 08:42 |
| prurigro | the window manager? | Mar 07 08:43 |
| prurigro | I figured it'd be drawing directly to the x display? do window managers really handle that level of complexity? | Mar 07 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | they're becoming more complicated as they do more things that they used to just ask X to do | Mar 07 08:43 |
| prurigro | ahh, so maybe some more than others then eh? | Mar 07 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz hasn't quite caught up with Mutter or kwin | Mar 07 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's still using indirect rendering, glx, and OpenGL 1.x | Mar 07 08:44 |
| prurigro | I heard compiz was slowing/stopping development | Mar 07 08:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb "If you joined ibm, what could you not mute it for a three digit number used the world is mad" category | Mar 07 08:45 | |
| DaemonFC | I think it's more likely that Ubuntu will have to find a new window/compositing manager in the future than it is that Compiz will be fixed | Mar 07 08:45 |
| prurigro | I suppose egl will also clear the way for more generally compatible opengl support too eh? | Mar 07 08:45 |
| prurigro | and hmm, is ubuntu still using compiz? | Mar 07 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 07 08:46 |
| prurigro | I figured unity would have had its own by now | Mar 07 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | they've said they want Compiz to support OpenGL ES and EGL and Wayland | Mar 07 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not close | Mar 07 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is more or less running Compiz now with one paid employee and other distributions are simply giving up on it and deleting it from their repositories | Mar 07 08:47 |
| prurigro | maybe if they took over development, that would be good | Mar 07 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen some people running Unity 2d with kwin | Mar 07 08:50 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu is just a soup right now | Mar 07 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | a bunch of unrelated projects that are a poor fit for one another thrown into a blender | Mar 07 08:52 |
| prurigro | yea, that's kinda how it feels too | Mar 07 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | it depends on three GUI toolkits, two window managers that are barely maintained, and a bunch of software where they ARE the upstream and the quality control is all up to them | Mar 07 08:53 |
| prurigro | they need to shut down for like a year or so and come back when everything's working nicely together | Mar 07 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | you mean when they decide to upgrade everyone to KDE | Mar 07 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 08:54 |
| prurigro | what's the third gui toolkit? not that most distros don't do that | Mar 07 08:54 |
| prurigro | and haha | Mar 07 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | instead of chucking shit in and hoping for a coherent desktop | Mar 07 08:54 |
| prurigro | well I think they're doing the unity thing so they can pull off that phone of theirs | Mar 07 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think Ubuntu is going to be on many tablets | Mar 07 08:54 |
| DaemonFC | Plasma Active is ready now | Mar 07 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | all Ubuntu is doing is making PC users mad at them | Mar 07 08:55 |
| prurigro | this wasn't for a tablet | Mar 07 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's possible to use Plasma Active in Kubuntu now | Mar 07 08:55 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't done it yet | Mar 07 08:55 |
| prurigro | it was for a phone | Mar 07 08:56 |
| prurigro | I'm sure you've seen it | Mar 07 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | oh where you plug the phone into a monitor and Ubuntu is running in a virtual machine on Android? | Mar 07 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | yuck | Mar 07 08:56 |
| DaemonFC | you know that has to be slow | Mar 07 08:57 |
| prurigro | haha, well if they completely cut the phone off, it could be as quick as a hardware accelerated arm device, which wouldn't be too terrible | Mar 07 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | installing Plasma Active now | Mar 07 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how this works | Mar 07 08:58 |
| prurigro | hmm | Mar 07 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | if it's a new session option | Mar 07 08:59 |
| prurigro | what exactly will the diff be? | Mar 07 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | or if you choose it like you would the netbook desktop | Mar 07 08:59 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Mar 07 08:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZorinOS First Impressions http://ur1.ca/8jzui #gnu #linux | Mar 07 09:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian GNU/Linux Keeps Getting Stronger http://ur1.ca/8k004 | Mar 07 09:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity Linux 2012 Alpha 1 released http://ur1.ca/8k00w #unitylinux #mandriva | Mar 07 09:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CeBIT 2012: Knoppix 7.0 presented http://ur1.ca/8k02r #knoppix | Mar 07 09:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] To win desktop, #Canonical changes the rules http://ur1.ca/8jjw1 #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Mar 07 09:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | it kind of works | Mar 07 09:12 |
| DaemonFC | I think I did something wrong though | Mar 07 09:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Official Release of Songbird Fork - #Nightingale Music Player - Just Happened! http://ur1.ca/8k03y #gnu #linux | Mar 07 09:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The fact that people hand over their facebook passwords to get a job shows that we are willing to give up basic, funda... http://b1t.it/a1ec | Mar 07 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Inside the ToyBox: An interview with Rob Landley http://ur1.ca/8k04l #licensing #opensource | Mar 07 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Guardian still promoting copyright infringement for profit http://gu.com/p/36xt6 - they still haven't responded to my post on this btw | Mar 07 09:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'The BBC reported the Raspberry Pi computer as "having no software installed on it - you have to write your own".' http://ur1.ca/8k0c7 | Mar 07 09:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | prurigro: Two observations | Mar 07 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Kubuntu's Plasma Active packages are broken | Mar 07 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | 2. The bits that work seem nice, but are totally unfit for a desktop | Mar 07 09:26 |
| prurigro | lol | Mar 07 09:26 |
| prurigro | hmm, and as they should be, I suppose | Mar 07 09:26 |
| prurigro | is this purely changes to the desktop? | Mar 07 09:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 07 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: Motorola’s Droid Razr Maxx, the model of insane battery life http://ur1.ca/8k0d1 runs #linux w/ no #msft #swpats tax | Mar 07 09:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google's Nexus Tablet To Be Made By Asus: Report http://ur1.ca/8k0ds #googlenexus #asus | Mar 07 09:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | it does things like pop up an on screen keyboard when I obviously have a real one | Mar 07 09:27 |
| prurigro | oh hmm, yea, that should be turnoff-able too | Mar 07 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think the ultimate goal of KDE is to require some type of OpenGL or OpenGL ES compositing support | Mar 07 09:28 |
| prurigro | gnome3 has one somewhere | Mar 07 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | be it through hardware acceleration or llvmpipe | Mar 07 09:28 |
| prurigro | were you running without? | Mar 07 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | in the short term though (probably by 4.9), they're going to kill off OpenGL 1.x support and XRENDER | Mar 07 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL 1 for sure, XRENDER possibly | Mar 07 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | there's more debate about killing XRENDER | Mar 07 09:29 |
| DaemonFC | no, Active calls kwin_gles | Mar 07 09:29 |
| prurigro | well eventually they'd have to if they wanted to support other platforms | Mar 07 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | it won't let you use kwin with OpenGL | Mar 07 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Canada! You used to be cool! ur1.ca/8g9es #CRIA #C11 !copyfraud | Mar 07 09:30 | |
| prurigro | ahh nice | Mar 07 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL ES 2 is a subset of OpenGL 4.x | Mar 07 09:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's possible to run OpenGL ES 2 applications with an OpenGL 4.2 compatible driver | Mar 07 09:31 |
| prurigro | oh get out | Mar 07 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's an ARB extension that understands all the ES 2 API calls | Mar 07 09:31 |
| prurigro | didn't you say we're still stick in opengl2 though? | Mar 07 09:31 |
| prurigro | driver-wise? | Mar 07 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | 2.1 for Mesa | Mar 07 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | 2.1 for all Gallium drivers | Mar 07 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | 3.0 for Intel | Mar 07 09:32 |
| prurigro | oh really, isn't intel OSS? | Mar 07 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | 3.0 for R600 Gallium-supported Radeons on the Mesa trunk builds if you override it with some environment variables | Mar 07 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | Intel is off doing their own thing | Mar 07 09:33 |
| prurigro | I guess nouveau would be 2.1 then eh? | Mar 07 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 07 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | but it will be 3.0 by Mesa 8.1 as well as Radeon hardware that supports at least 3.0 | Mar 07 09:33 |
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| DaemonFC | except on some distributions | Mar 07 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | like Fedora | Mar 07 09:34 |
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| prurigro | due to that legal technicality you mentioned? | Mar 07 09:34 |
| DaemonFC | where I'm guessing it will claim OpenGL 3 but it's broken and anything that calls float textures will crash | Mar 07 09:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Stalking – the terrifying crime the law may at last be taking seriously http://gu.com/p/36xk8 | Mar 07 09:35 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu 12.04 is shipping Mesa with float textures enabled | Mar 07 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | but no S3TC by default | Mar 07 09:35 |
| prurigro | hmmm, enabled despite the riks of crash? | Mar 07 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | you could add that without disturbing anything else by pulling just the libtxc-dxtn packages from xorg edgers | Mar 07 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | programs that called it would, sure | Mar 07 09:36 |
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| DaemonFC | programs that don't use them but use other OpenGL 3 features would work | Mar 07 09:36 |
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| DaemonFC | it would be better to lie and say they support OpenGL 3 than to keep saying 2.1 | Mar 07 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | because in either case, programs that need floating point texture support won't work | Mar 07 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | but if they lie and claim support for OpenGL 3, then anything that used the rest of that API would work | Mar 07 09:37 |
| prurigro | hmm, couldn't they do a try/catch for that particular error? | Mar 07 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | not all OpenGL 3 applications use those but if you keep saying that you support OpenGL 2.1, then even the applications that don't use float textures will see that your drier claims 2.1 and fail anyway | Mar 07 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | even though they would have worked had you lied | Mar 07 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | it would be best practices for developers that want to work on Linux to not use float textures and don't trust the OpenGL version that's reported | Mar 07 09:39 |
| prurigro | ahh I see what you mean | Mar 07 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | instead, test for the extensions you want to use | Mar 07 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | or try to create a certain context (when arb_create_context lands) ;) | Mar 07 09:39 |
| prurigro | I thought opengl was a test-for-feature based setup anyway? | Mar 07 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | and if it fails, you know that it's not possible to use that level of OpenGL | Mar 07 09:39 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 07 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's supposed to be | Mar 07 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | some things just call trust that the driver is only good for the version string of OpenGL that it returns | Mar 07 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | in that case you might be able to lie and make it work anyway | Mar 07 09:40 |
| prurigro | hmm | Mar 07 09:41 |
| prurigro | funny, I was just reading about ogl development the other day, and it was saying that that's now directx development is, in comparison | Mar 07 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to get a couple games working just by having it report OpenGL 3 | Mar 07 09:41 |
| prurigro | sounds like some developers might have started over there | Mar 07 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | as much as I hate to say it, OS X is probably the only counterbalance to DirectX as far as PC gaming goes | Mar 07 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | some developers want a OS X port and so they use OpenGL and then since they have it working with OpenGL on a POSIX-ish system anyway, they take an afternoon and port it to Linux while they're at it | Mar 07 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | OS X 10.8 is claiming OpenGL 3.2 support now | Mar 07 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | Linux and Windows with proprietary drivers are the only way to run OpenGL 4.x currently | Mar 07 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | there's at least one major game engine that is demanding OpenGL 4.2 already | Mar 07 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | (the one RAGE uses) | Mar 07 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | so if RAGE does get a Linux port I may find myself using Catalyst again until I get tired of the game | Mar 07 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | John Carmack said not to rule out a Linux port | Mar 07 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | but it's not a for sure thing | Mar 07 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | Bethesda took them over and he ended up having to fight with their lawyers just to release the Doom 3 engine under the GPL | Mar 07 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | which he wrote years before they owned id | Mar 07 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | so that may be the last interesting Linux-related thing they ever do | Mar 07 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | Doom 3's engine dates back to 2004, but it was the most advanced engine up to that point | Mar 07 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | it instantly obsoleted pretty much every GPU that was currently in use | Mar 07 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Can A Company Be An 'Author' For The Purpose Of Copyright? http://goo.gl/Nm2Oa | Mar 07 09:48 | |
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| prurigro | DaemonFC: wait, does the nvidia proprietary driver support ogl4? | Mar 07 09:50 |
| prurigro | and haha, yea, I remember everyone trying to run that back in the day | Mar 07 09:51 |
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| DaemonFC | it still warns that your system might freeze up if you attempt Ultra High graphics because it required a better GPU than you could buy at that time | Mar 07 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | and a minimum of 512 MB of vram | Mar 07 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 09:53 |
| prurigro | lol, yea, my boxen def can't put out for that | Mar 07 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | well, that's like a <$50 GPU now | Mar 07 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | and you're running it on Ultra Hight with no problems | Mar 07 09:54 |
| prurigro | lol, I suppose I should upgrade one of these days | Mar 07 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | but in 2004, $300-$400 GPUs were struggling just to run it on High | Mar 07 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | I was shocked at how bad the performance of OS X 10.8 was | Mar 07 09:55 |
| prurigro | oh? | Mar 07 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | there was a set of benchmarks the other day where Ubuntu 12.04 just literally destroyed OS X | Mar 07 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | and both were running on a Mac Mini | Mar 07 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 09:56 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 07 09:56 |
| prurigro | I got the first mac mini, which I think had tiger | Mar 07 09:56 |
| prurigro | and then leopard came out, so I tried upgrading, and honestly, the desktop doesn't even function | Mar 07 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | the only area where OS X was faster was the Intel GPU benchmarks because the Linux support for that particular chipset is not quite as optimized as it could be yet | Mar 07 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | if you redid them on a 3.3 kernel with a Mesa 8.1 snapshot, it would go the other way I'm sure | Mar 07 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | or comparing current stable Mesa + kernel to OS X with identical Radeons | Mar 07 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious why they need to sell you such a fast computer to run OS X on | Mar 07 09:57 |
| prurigro | haha no doubt | Mar 07 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | the hardware makes up for their inefficient and poorly optimized software | Mar 07 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | I couldn't even see someone running a server with OS X | Mar 07 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | it's probably why they folded the "Server" components into an "app" you could buy and install on OS X for 10.8 | Mar 07 09:59 |
| prurigro | lol | Mar 07 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | and all that "app" contains is a bunch of stale open source software | Mar 07 09:59 |
| prurigro | ack | Mar 07 09:59 |
| prurigro | are they charging for it? | Mar 07 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 07 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | still an extra $30 | Mar 07 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | so you can get old versions of Apache and whatnot | Mar 07 09:59 |
| DaemonFC | workplaces that tried to offer a "choose whatever OS you want on your workstation" perk are really regretting having to support OS X on workstations now | Mar 07 10:00 |
| DaemonFC | they end up dealing with stuff that was intended as a "consumer electronics" product | Mar 07 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | you end up with your IT people working out why the App Store is causing problems or why iTunes isn't playing a media file | Mar 07 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | which is just ridiculous | Mar 07 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | [04:49] <prurigro> DaemonFC: wait, does the nvidia proprietary driver support ogl4? | Mar 07 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yes | Mar 07 10:02 |
| prurigro | word | Mar 07 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | they released a new Beta branch for people who wanted to play RAGE last year | Mar 07 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | and I believe the OpenGL 4 support is in their Stable branch now | Mar 07 10:02 |
| prurigro | haha, interesting-- I wonder if all that progress is why their drivers became so bugy | Mar 07 10:03 |
| prurigro | buggy( | Mar 07 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | they share the same OpenGL driver between Windows, and "UNIX" | Mar 07 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | so whatever the Windows version has is what you get on "UNIX" as well | Mar 07 10:03 |
| prurigro | word, no kidding | Mar 07 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | they lob Linux and the various BSDs in as "UNIX" but they don't make drivers for OS X at all, so their cards only support OpenGL 3.2 and have reduced performance on OS X | Mar 07 10:03 |
| prurigro | smart development in that respect | Mar 07 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | oh, Nvidia does have a Solaris blob | Mar 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | that's UNIX :) | Mar 07 10:04 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 07 10:04 |
| prurigro | isn't that more 'solaris'? | Mar 07 10:04 |
| prurigro | :) | Mar 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | Solaris is UNIX 2003 certified by The Open Group, for whatever that is worth | Mar 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | so is OS X | Mar 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | but only on Intel | Mar 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | Solaris is certified on Intel and Sparc | Mar 07 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | but that certification never extended to OpenSolaris | Mar 07 10:05 |
| prurigro | oh no kidding | Mar 07 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | nor does it extend to any of the forks | Mar 07 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:05 |
| prurigro | haha, interesting | Mar 07 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | you have to pay to have each major revision recertified | Mar 07 10:05 |
| prurigro | so basically its a money grab | Mar 07 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 07 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | bust out another million | Mar 07 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | oh, it's still UNIX | Mar 07 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | super | Mar 07 10:06 |
| prurigro | and I suppose they do rigorous testing? | Mar 07 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | well, some have called the integrity of their test suites into question | Mar 07 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | not just over UNIX and POSIX though | Mar 07 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | with the LSB as well | Mar 07 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | some Linux distributions got caught cheating to make broken tests from the LSB pass on their systems | Mar 07 10:07 |
| prurigro | hmm, and the same foundation does unix as well as posix and lsb eh? | Mar 07 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | there's other problems with LSB that make it a joke though | Mar 07 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | LSB 4 recommended Java but didn't require it, LSB 4.1 removed Java | Mar 07 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | LSB 4.1 still DEMANDS Qt 3, which has been abandoned since June 2007 | Mar 07 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | LSB says that the ZOMGSTANDARD Linux package manager is RPM | Mar 07 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | and is silent on how other distributions are supposed to provide RPM support | Mar 07 10:09 |
| prurigro | oh man | Mar 07 10:09 |
| prurigro | that's pretty ridiculous | Mar 07 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | it makes perfect sense | Mar 07 10:10 |
| prurigro | and what do people get for having a lsb distro? a bunch of manditory items? why not just have all dependencies available and install them as applications needing them are installed? | Mar 07 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | you pay them enough money and the standard is "whatever you want, honey" | Mar 07 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | what's so confusing about that? :) | Mar 07 10:10 |
| prurigro | haha touche | Mar 07 10:10 |
| prurigro | clearly redhat at the time | Mar 07 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | and Sun | Mar 07 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | and Nokia | Mar 07 10:10 |
| prurigro | of inception | Mar 07 10:10 |
| prurigro | does sun and nokia use rpm? | Mar 07 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | Nokia got Qt 3 into the LSB then abandoned Qt 3 | Mar 07 10:11 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 07 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | Sun got proprietary Java into the LSB then removed redistribution rights for proprietary Java | Mar 07 10:11 |
| prurigro | I remember their brief stint with linux | Mar 07 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | IBM and Red Hat got RPM in | Mar 07 10:11 |
| prurigro | lol | Mar 07 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | IBM actually uses RPM on AIX | Mar 07 10:11 |
| prurigro | the only one I wouldn't mind having is rpm | Mar 07 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | the next thing I sort of expectes was LSB 5, which makes a requirement for Adobe Flash | Mar 07 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | but Adobe canned Flash for Linux before that could happen | Mar 07 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | *expected | Mar 07 10:13 |
| prurigro | haha, and pretty well everything else at that | Mar 07 10:13 |
| DaemonFC | at least Qt 3 was free and open source software when it was approved | Mar 07 10:13 |
| prurigro | ahh that's good | Mar 07 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | but it's been abandoned for 5 years and I think they should make an LSB 4.2 just to remove it | Mar 07 10:14 |
| prurigro | it had questionable terms for quite a while there | Mar 07 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | on their way to the next LSB | Mar 07 10:14 |
| prurigro | yea, how about the standard set of open source libraries? | Mar 07 10:14 |
| prurigro | gtk3, qt4, tcl/tk etc | Mar 07 10:14 |
| prurigro | throw in some gnutilities | Mar 07 10:14 |
| prurigro | maybe a kernel | Mar 07 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | well, graphics toolkits, at least the useful ones, advance rapidly | Mar 07 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | and the LSB does not | Mar 07 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RebeccaMacKinnon on Internet freedom http://goo.gl/rB6V8 fantastic podcast, well worth a listen | Mar 07 10:15 | |
| prurigro | then it should be disbanded | Mar 07 10:15 |
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| prurigro | though I'm sure they like money | Mar 07 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | by the time they get around to removing Qt 3 and standardizing Qt 4, Qt 5 will be out | Mar 07 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:15 |
| prurigro | haha, sounds like it eh | Mar 07 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | the Qt 5 alpha is due less than 2 weeks from now | Mar 07 10:15 |
| prurigro | get out | Mar 07 10:15 |
| prurigro | I bet all sorts of qt devs are groaning over that | Mar 07 10:16 |
| prurigro | or is the code not going to completely change again this time? | Mar 07 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | well, Qt 5 can break the API since it's a major release | Mar 07 10:16 |
| prurigro | it can, and likely will | Mar 07 10:16 |
| prurigro | but it would be friendly if it only extended it | Mar 07 10:16 |
| prurigro | :) | Mar 07 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | but going by what they have done in the past, there will be a class that implements some of the popular Qt 4 API to ease porting | Mar 07 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | there's still about 100 Qt 3 API calls in their own Qt 4 class for that purpose | Mar 07 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | but you're encouraged not to use them in any new software since they will be dropped from Qt 5 | Mar 07 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | and as of now, a disturbing number of packages in many KDE distributions still need that support class | Mar 07 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | including the Muon package manager suite in Kubuntu | Mar 07 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | and Apper | Mar 07 10:18 |
| prurigro | oh dear haha | Mar 07 10:19 |
| prurigro | well I guess it's better than all those projects that just kinda disappeared | Mar 07 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | distributions with KDE 5 will probably have some things using Qt 4 for the first year or so | Mar 07 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | just like KDE 4 distributions had some Qt 3 apps for a while | Mar 07 10:19 |
| prurigro | and gtk3 distros using gtk2 etc | Mar 07 10:20 |
| prurigro | makes sense | Mar 07 10:20 |
| prurigro | if they can be cross-themed | Mar 07 10:20 |
| prurigro | that would definitely make the switch from 4 to 5 nicer than 3 to 4 or 2 to 3 | Mar 07 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's the other way around with XFCE and LXDE | Mar 07 10:20 |
| prurigro | ? | Mar 07 10:20 |
| DaemonFC | you have distributions that are making themes for GTK+ 2 for XFCE and then making a GTK+ 3 theme that matches that one | Mar 07 10:21 |
| prurigro | you mean how they're still gtk2? | Mar 07 10:21 |
| prurigro | ahh haha | Mar 07 10:21 |
| prurigro | touche eh | Mar 07 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, like the greybird theme in Xubuntu | Mar 07 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | if you change your theme, then Ubuntu software Center no longer matches | Mar 07 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | and neither will Alacarte or Rhythmbox if you have that | Mar 07 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | Mar 07 10:21 |
| prurigro | oh word, that's no fun haha | Mar 07 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | there really needs to be a GTK+ 3 theme switcher for the XFCE control panel | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | do they not have one? | Mar 07 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | as sort of a stop gap until XFCE itself is ported | Mar 07 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | I used to use xfce and I thought it used to.. maybe not though | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | musta just ln -s'd my gtkrc files | Mar 07 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | you have to hand edit some rc files to get your GTK+ 3 apps themed to something else | Mar 07 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | and there's very few matching themes that run on both toolkits | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | ohh | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | gtk3 | Mar 07 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of a mess | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | I missed that | Mar 07 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | yea, makes sense | Mar 07 10:22 |
| prurigro | luckily the default one looks reasonable | Mar 07 10:23 |
| prurigro | and has a gtk2 equiv | Mar 07 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu has Oxygen-GTK3 now by default | Mar 07 10:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Apple also wants 5-15 US$ per Android device. Just as Microsoft. While both say Motorola is evil for asking the VER... http://b1t.it/a1fO | Mar 07 10:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - So Apple also wants 5-15 US$ per Android device. Just as… .::. Size~: 74.79 KB | Mar 07 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | but the KCM GTK appearance module only themes GTK+ 2 | Mar 07 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:23 |
| prurigro | oh man haha | Mar 07 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | but the company that wrote that KCM module has a newer version you can install into Kubuntu that handles GTK 2 and 3 | Mar 07 10:24 |
| prurigro | I can see why you get so frustrated with gtk | Mar 07 10:24 |
| prurigro | not using gnome n' all | Mar 07 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | (but leaves the one that only handles GTK 2 installed too) | Mar 07 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Mar 07 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | you're better off to just leave it alone and let it theme every GTK app with Oxygen | Mar 07 10:24 |
| prurigro | yea, that sounds pretty ideal | Mar 07 10:24 |
| prurigro | if you like oxygen | Mar 07 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | all the important GTK apps right now are still GTK 2 | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | and many of them will be for years to come | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's not urgent | Mar 07 10:25 |
| prurigro | define important? | Mar 07 10:25 |
| prurigro | :) | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | Pidgin | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | XChat | Mar 07 10:25 |
| prurigro | ahh yes | Mar 07 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | stuff you want to use outside of GNOME without worrying how it looks | Mar 07 10:26 |
| prurigro | yea, I suppose most of the gtk3 stuff at this point is gnome's desktop suite | Mar 07 10:26 |
| prurigro | though gimp I think at least has a gtk3 version | Mar 07 10:26 |
| prurigro | if its not completely switched | Mar 07 10:26 |
| DaemonFC | there's going to be GTK 3 bindings for Firefox and Seamonkey soon | Mar 07 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | they're experimental build options that not in production use right now | Mar 07 10:27 |
| prurigro | word, yea, likely run side by side for a while with the same code base eh? | Mar 07 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla software just uses GTK as a mask | Mar 07 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | it will run without GTK even installed but it will look very bad | Mar 07 10:28 |
| prurigro | oh no kidding- likely like mozilla used to eh? | Mar 07 10:28 |
| prurigro | all grey and whatnot | Mar 07 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's been a while since I saw Firefox without GTK bindings to use | Mar 07 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | I believe it happened when I was using Mandrake Cooker | Mar 07 10:29 |
| prurigro | lmao | Mar 07 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | and something got hosed and GTK was broken | Mar 07 10:29 |
| prurigro | I remember mandrake cooker | Mar 07 10:29 |
| prurigro | word | Mar 07 10:29 |
| prurigro | clearly running kde or the rest of your desktop would have too :) | Mar 07 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsurf | Mar 07 10:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NetSurf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 137.82 KB | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | this might be the most interesting browser that nobody has ever heard of | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't have Javascript yet | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | but when it does.... | Mar 07 10:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:30 |
| prurigro | haha | Mar 07 10:30 |
| prurigro | html5 seems pretty good | Mar 07 10:30 |
| prurigro | oh man, methinks I need some sleep | Mar 07 10:31 |
| *prurigro leaves netsurf tab open for better inspection when he wakes up | Mar 07 10:31 | |
| prurigro | have a good night DaemonFC | Mar 07 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | ahh, you too | Mar 07 10:31 |
| prurigro | thx | Mar 07 10:31 |
| *DaemonFC goes to make more coffee | Mar 07 10:31 | |
| DaemonFC | From #kubuntu-offtopic | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | [05:24] <jussi> work is a good thing (tm) (usually :P ) | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | that reminds me of someone's Facebook page I looked at a while back | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | where he was making fun of an ALDI hiring poster that said "Do you like physically demanding work?" | Mar 07 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | and he said "No I don't. Nobody does." | Mar 07 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | then when the day comes that he has to crawl his dead ass out of mom's basement and find a job, some fly by night employment screening company will see that and blackball him | Mar 07 10:35 |
| brendyn | Physically demanding work can be awesome for gettin payed to be fit | Mar 07 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if Lancelot could track mail in Thunderbird | Mar 07 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | who uses kmail? honestly | Mar 07 10:47 |
| schestowitz | could it? | Mar 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz | oh, you said "it could be nice" | Mar 07 10:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The CONTROL of knowledge: Ours or Elsevier’s; It’s High Noon for Universities - http://bit.ly/wuXWpe great post #textmining | Mar 07 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Did a Pirate TV Stream Save Lives During the Japan Tsunami? - http://bit.ly/wBqtHY great story | Mar 07 10:48 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: want a good mail informer? | Mar 07 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - The CONTROL of knowledge: Ours or Elsevier’s; It’s High Noon for Universities « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 33.88 KB | Mar 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz | There's a good plugin | Mar 07 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Did a Pirate TV Stream Save Lives During the Japan Tsunami? - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 241.82 KB | Mar 07 10:48 |
| schestowitz | you can have popups that you press to bring up a simple window in any desktop to view incoming mail on the go | Mar 07 10:49 |
| schestowitz | the popup contains lots of info, incl. body preview and an icon based on the type of mail, e.g. sender/box | Mar 07 10:49 |
| schestowitz | and you can assign sounds to each | Mar 07 10:49 |
| schestowitz | no need for lancelot, it's all bolted onto thunderbird | Mar 07 10:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bin Laden sea burial cast into doubt - http://bit.ly/zSGoat quite: why would they chuck away a source of info like that? | Mar 07 10:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bin Laden sea burial cast into doubt | TG Daily .::. Size~: 39.11 KB | Mar 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mailbox-alert/ | Mar 07 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mailbox Alert :: Add-ons for Thunderbird .::. Size~: 27.62 KB | Mar 07 10:50 |
| schestowitz | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mailbox-alert/reviews/ | Mar 07 10:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mailbox Alert :: Reviews :: Add-ons for Thunderbird .::. Size~: 43.38 KB | Mar 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | "Awesome... "execute a command" is exactly what Thunderbird was missing! This is the perfect fix for getting Growl to work " | Mar 07 10:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pin A Quote lets you convert text into an image for easy sharing on #Pinterest - http://tnw.co/ya3QCX this is so wrong | Mar 07 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | "Did not work with TB 8.0 - no notification. Under TB 7.0 it works fine - please fix it" | Mar 07 10:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Convert Text into an Image to Share on Pinterest .::. Size~: 95.54 KB | Mar 07 10:51 |
| schestowitz | See, this is why I stay with FF 3.0 and TB 3.0 | Mar 07 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Plugins cannot be guaranteed to work if you ride the upgrade train/treadmill | Mar 07 10:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TPPA – A Stealth Attempt to Undermine Democracy - http://bit.ly/AxajMY best intro to #TPP around - pl. read and pass on | Mar 07 10:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TPPA – A Stealth Attempt to Undermine Democracy | OCCUPY T.P.P.A .::. Size~: 53.11 KB | Mar 07 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | Mar 07 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | they're introducing emissions testing now in Indiana | Mar 07 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | that will be popular with people that can't afford a new car or thousands of dollars worth of pollution control work on a running car | Mar 07 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Hayek Would Have Hated Software Patents - http://bit.ly/znrnmD further reasons why #patents are not property: no well-defined boundaries | Mar 07 10:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Hayek Would Have Hated Software Patents | Cato @ Liberty .::. Size~: 22.8 KB | Mar 07 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's not in my budget to get my plate renewed this month so I'll end up having to go into the DMV next month to make sure I get that sticker in time to avoid being pulled over for expired plates | Mar 07 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung sues Apple over patents in Korea (after saying it wouldn’t) - http://tnw.co/ymjD0P can't we just stop this nonsense? | Mar 07 10:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Samsung U-Turns, Files Suit Against Apple in Korea .::. Size~: 94.44 KB | Mar 07 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | hopefully that smog testing doesn't move past the counties they're already doing it in | Mar 07 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | I think that was part of some "clean air" legislation the feds passed back in the 90s and Indiana decided it could comply by rolling it out in two counties | Mar 07 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | I know my car wouldn't pass and it costs like $60 just to have it checked | Mar 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | then you have to have it checked again after they do the work to make it pass | Mar 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | and pay them another $60 to check it again | Mar 07 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 10:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arbitrary and Orwellian - Amazon Payment Services blacklists Open Digital with no reason given - http://bit.ly/xRuxjy #amazon being evil | Mar 07 10:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Digital Policy Blog: Arbitrary and Orwellian - Amazon Payment Services blacklists Open Digital with no reason given .::. Size~: 87.23 KB | Mar 07 10:58 |
| *scientes has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | Mar 07 11:00 | |
| DaemonFC | and after at least $60-$120 for smog checks and possibly up to $1,000 in repair work | Mar 07 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | you get to pay the state another $100 or so to renew your plates | Mar 07 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | ouch | Mar 07 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | after I move I'm going to get rid of the car and just use the city bus | Mar 07 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Im Jahre 2004 habe ich die unfeinen Wörter "Schutzgelderpressung" und "Patentmafia" verwendet - und wurde heftigst da... http://b1t.it/a1gv | Mar 07 11:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spotify: 'We have to turn ourselves into the OS of music' - http://bit.ly/yAmG3R lots of interesting possibilities | Mar 07 11:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Im Jahre 2004 habe ich die unfeinen Wörter… .::. Size~: 75.01 KB | Mar 07 11:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Spotify: 'We have to turn ourselves into the OS of music' | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 180.55 KB | Mar 07 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | then there's that thing that pops up now and then in Kubuntu that drives me nuts | Mar 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | "Do you want Flash?" | Mar 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | No, I installed an 11.2 preview myself so it would stop crashing Rekonq | Mar 07 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | no I don't want the version that crashes Rekonq, thanks | Mar 07 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #UAE citizen arrested for criticizing security forces on Twitter - http://tnw.co/y30Hhe absurd | Mar 07 11:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UAE Citizen Arrested for Twitter Statements .::. Size~: 93.52 KB | Mar 07 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #VW's U-turn on CO2 emissions shows green revamp - http://bit.ly/zbaRH8 whoa, wonder why? | Mar 07 11:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VW's U-turn on CO2 emissions shows green revamp | EurActiv .::. Size~: 92.15 KB | Mar 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://articles.boston.com/2012-03-04/news/31122096_1_defense-spending-military-spending-china | Mar 07 11:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: China to up defense spending by 11.2 pct in 2012 - Boston.com .::. Size~: 31.6 KB | Mar 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | still tiny by US standards | Mar 07 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | roughly 10% of what our military budget is up to | Mar 07 11:06 |
| DaemonFC | but Obama seems to be doing a good job in inching them towards an arms race | Mar 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I stopped using lancelot | Mar 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | just takes up ram, krunner is just as practical | Mar 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | [11:01] <DaemonFC> after I move I'm going to get rid of the car and just use the city bus | Mar 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | what would the bus be for? Commuting to work? | Mar 07 11:07 |
| schestowitz | Because a lot of stuff you can get done in alt ways, e.g. work from home, order in, etc. | Mar 07 11:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mexico Adopts Alarming #Surveillance Legislation - http://bit.ly/AF4zKO appalling move by #mexico (v @rmack) | Mar 07 11:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mexico Adopts Alarming Surveillance Legislation - Global Voices Advocacy .::. Size~: 73.55 KB | Mar 07 11:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear Google. Why do I need to re-enter my password so often? At least once a week on my mobile, my laptop etc. | Mar 07 11:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Arbitrary and Orwellian - Amazon Payment Services blacklists Open Digital with no reason given - http://bit.ly/xRuxjy #amazon | Mar 07 11:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "radiobubble - news: Συνέντευξη του πρώτου Ευρωπαίου δάσκαλου με σύνδρομο Down" from http://identi.ca/url/67695018 | Mar 07 11:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Digital Policy Blog: Arbitrary and Orwellian - Amazon Payment Services blacklists Open Digital with no reason given .::. Size~: 95.88 KB | Mar 07 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: radiobubble - news: Συνέντευξη του πρώτου Ευρωπαίου δάσκαλου με σύνδρομο Down .::. Size~: 186.09 KB | Mar 07 11:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: TPPA – A Stealth Attempt to Undermine Democracy - http://bit.ly/AxajMY best intro to #TPP around - pl. read and pass on #fb | Mar 07 11:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TPPA – A Stealth Attempt to Undermine Democracy | OCCUPY T.P.P.A .::. Size~: 53.11 KB | Mar 07 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Rangers director Dave King fears liquidation is 'inevitable' http://goo.gl/yj6WV sad day for Scottish !football :( | Mar 07 11:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Whitehall department savings scheme overspent by £500m, says report http://goo.gl/KUziD this is the justification for #prvatisation | Mar 07 11:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC Sport - Rangers director Dave King fears liquidation is 'inevitable' .::. Size~: 59.18 KB | Mar 07 11:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Whitehall department savings scheme overspent by £500m, says report .::. Size~: 69.71 KB | Mar 07 11:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if govt depts are wasting tax payers money, hand it all to private companies (we & our mates invest in) so they can strip it bare | Mar 07 11:23 | |
| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/478308/ | Mar 07 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A tempest in a toybox [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 340.1 KB | Mar 07 11:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #nuffsaid http://ur1.ca/8k2l9 | Mar 07 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "... when mist becomes a cloud." http://ur1.ca/8k2n2 #fb | Mar 07 11:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | oh wow, it's going to get up to about 70 today | Mar 07 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | time to open the windows | Mar 07 11:42 |
| *abeNd-org (~KKlenke@tx-71-51-107-127.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #techrights | Mar 07 11:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] I don't agree with the title but it's an interesting post - "Why Objective-C is Hard » Ash Furrow" from http://identi.ca/url/67696055 | Mar 07 11:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Objective-C is Hard » Ash Furrow .::. Size~: 20 KB | Mar 07 11:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3125/snapshot1fj.png | Mar 07 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 07 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | I think they should go ahead and ditch Amarok | Mar 07 11:49 |
| schestowitz | why? | Mar 07 11:50 |
| schestowitz | too heavy? | Mar 07 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Like Senor Jabba? | Mar 07 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Amarok has some bugs, it's becoming very bloated | Mar 07 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | it has some troubling dependencies that can't be legally distributed in the US | Mar 07 11:51 |
| schestowitz | it's becoming.. itunes? | Mar 07 11:51 |
| schestowitz | use minirok | Mar 07 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 07 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not thrilled with Amazon MP3, but I understand that they want funding | Mar 07 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | so I wasn't going to get into that | Mar 07 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | I have my feelings about Amazon, MP3, and the MAFIAA | Mar 07 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I wouldn't go so far as to call Amazon MP3 'iTunes" | Mar 07 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | though it has many of the same obnoxious and unacceptable conditions on the material you buy, it's not that bad | Mar 07 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The way those geasy greedy fucks at the RIAA spell it out, even if you BUY their music at full retail price and they take, you know, their 90% out of it and leave the store and the musicians to fight for table scraps..... | Mar 07 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | if anyone but you hears the music you've bought you've still committed "copyright infringement" | Mar 07 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | so what's the point in buying it? | Mar 07 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it turns out that even after you've paid for it you're still legally the only one permitted to hear it | Mar 07 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | according to them if you play a CD you bought in a store you own, then if a customer hears it, you need to buy a "broadcasting" license from them for the same music you already paid them for | Mar 07 11:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Ubuntu stripped Spotify out of their Clementine packages | Mar 07 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | the packages you get from upstream advertise it and recommend that you install the proprietary Spotify Core blob | Mar 07 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | if they included it, it would violate the GPL license of Clementine, which they don't have most of the copyright on (The Amarok 1.x developers do because that's what Clementine is based on) | Mar 07 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | so instead they include this obnoxious stub that recommends you allow it to go grab the blob for you | Mar 07 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | I couldn't find anything in the Ubuntu changelog about stripping it out but it's there in the 1.01 package from the upstream | Mar 07 12:00 |
| DaemonFC | but not in Ubuntu | Mar 07 12:00 |
| schestowitz | Amazon MP3 ? | Mar 07 12:02 |
| schestowitz | What's that? | Mar 07 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's an MP3 store | Mar 07 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | have you really not heard of it? | Mar 07 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | I looked in my task manager the other day and found Amarok sitting there using over 300 MB of RAM | Mar 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | not by this name | Mar 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | and that seems to be typical now | Mar 07 12:03 |
| schestowitz | I know they sell copies of music files | Mar 07 12:03 |
| DaemonFC | no, they sell you a license to use the file | Mar 07 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | not the file | Mar 07 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | yes, amarok used to take abut 200mb here | Mar 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | in 2010 | Mar 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | I had to drop it | Mar 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | 230mb was typical when loaded with large playlist | Mar 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: get free music | Mar 07 12:04 |
| DaemonFC | Clementine is using just over 100 right now | Mar 07 12:04 |
| schestowitz | right now I listen to 12gb of new music i downloaded via torrent, sxsw | Mar 07 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | that's not light, but it's less than a third what Amarok wants | Mar 07 12:05 |
| schestowitz | it took me a day to get it | Mar 07 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva removed Amarok and put in Clementine for their 2011 release | Mar 07 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | citing how piggish Amarok had gotten | Mar 07 12:05 |
| DaemonFC | Minirok hasn't had an update in nearly three years | Mar 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: dawn has a youtube account http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIqN7Cj2Sjw&feature=related | Mar 07 12:06 |
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| DaemonFC | according to the changelog | Mar 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | possible | Mar 07 12:06 |
| schestowitz | not heard of a release in about a year | Mar 07 12:07 |
| schestowitz | maybe I just missed it | Mar 07 12:07 |
| schestowitz | or maybe they ran amarok of theirweb servr and it ran out of RAM so posted no update :-) | Mar 07 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like using software without an active upstream | Mar 07 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | when there's a problem, who will fix it? | Mar 07 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | if there's a security problem, it goes unfixed | Mar 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | there is a problem | Mar 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | RAM usage | Mar 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | and nobody fixed it | Mar 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | yet the project goes on | Mar 07 12:08 |
| schestowitz | same for firefox | Mar 07 12:08 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox has been fixed | Mar 07 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | but you're still using 3.6 | Mar 07 12:09 |
| schestowitz | althougth minirok has a bug that can lead it to taking over a gig of RAM till you notice it and kill the python thread | Mar 07 12:09 |
| schestowitz | it very rarely happes, if idle | Mar 07 12:09 |
| DaemonFC | seems Audacious is now hosed | Mar 07 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | at least under KDE | Mar 07 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | oxygen-gtk3 is still pretty, buggy | Mar 07 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Clementine has been stripped of everything that depends on KDE | Mar 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | it works fine on other desktops too without demanding to pull in half of KDE | Mar 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | there's a price to be paid for tight integration like KDE has | Mar 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | the apps are very hard to use outside of KDE | Mar 07 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | I've considered just using XFCE | Mar 07 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | it's not bling-bling, but it isn't growing exponentially like KDE is | Mar 07 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | or being filled with stupid shit like GNOME and Unity | Mar 07 12:15 |
| schestowitz | "cheer up nick, this is a good thing " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1388943 | Mar 07 12:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'The BBC reported the Raspberry Pi computer as "having no software installed on it - you have to write your own".' http://techrights.org/2012/03/07/bbc-gates/#comments | Mar 07 12:22 |
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| schestowitz | "that's cute " | Mar 07 12:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Gnome-Session-Fallback is apparently greatly improved in #Ubuntu 12.04. Is a lot more Gnome2-ish. via @linuxtip Thanks Pjotr! | Mar 07 12:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Snickers #Twitter campaign cleared by ad watchdog http://gu.com/p/36xz5 | Mar 07 12:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Drop the 50p tax rate and target property – the gutsy Welsh way to go http://gu.com/p/36xpc | Mar 07 12:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Drop the 50p tax rate and target property – the gutsy Welsh way to go | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 282.19 KB | Mar 07 12:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Thought and technical leadership is what being a Red Hatter is all about - http://ur1.ca/8k3f0 | Mar 07 12:31 | |
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| schestowitz | hi oiaohm | Mar 07 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Hi schestowitz | Mar 07 12:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.geek.com/articles/news/ibm-dumps-lotus-symphony-to-focus-on-openoffice-org-20120131/ | Mar 07 12:41 |
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| schestowitz | IBM does not like LO | Mar 07 12:41 |
| schestowitz | it also sort of badmouths it | Mar 07 12:41 |
| schestowitz | Sun was the same | Mar 07 12:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear +Google - I am a gadget guy. So I have 2 smartphones, 2 laptops and a tablet and use Googleplus on all these devi... http://b1t.it/a1jb | Mar 07 12:45 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/03/facebook_ipo_but_there_will_never_be_a_paywall/ | Mar 07 12:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Muhahahaha. Kleiner DNS Oopsie bei Facebook führt unweigerlich zu http://ur1.ca/8k3nw... http://b1t.it/a1jr | Mar 07 12:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Programa vai certificar competências básicas em Linux http://goo.gl/oTrmh #gnulinux #lpi | Mar 07 13:13 | |
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| oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Vagrant-celebrates-its-1-0-stable-release-1465509.html some projects names are odd | Mar 07 13:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Two Funky #Drupal Modules http://goo.gl/XjFQf #fb | Mar 07 13:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] StatusNet daemons tend to cycle like that pretty regularly. We use monit to keep them up. | Mar 07 13:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bin zwar nicht auf Facebook, dennoch. So geht das. http://ur1.ca/8k42m | Mar 07 13:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] let's see if motorbike #1 (1996 bmw f650st) still works after the winter... | Mar 07 14:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Pinterest and copyright: Why you should keep sharing--and keep pinning by @suehle | http://t.co/BnigIRjy #crafts #ip | Mar 07 14:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmm, this sounds easy | Mar 07 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | looking at recipes they put in the instruction manual for my slow cooker | Mar 07 14:21 |
| *DaemonFC might attempt Chicken Sante Fe | Mar 07 14:21 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think Jamie Zawinski was right when he talked about being on a bicycle | Mar 07 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | and how it's easiest to just assume that everyone in a car *IS* trying to kill you | Mar 07 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | with gas at $4 a gallon, I've parked my car for the most part and just biked or walked to the store and back when I only need a few items | Mar 07 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's crazy, you can burn through an extra $50 of gas each month just running simple errands | Mar 07 14:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #Data portability will help competition in digital econ.- we have a (diff) version of th http://p.ost.im/p/eCS7ML | Mar 07 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Users need to know they control their personal data, that it's used fairly + transparent http://p.ost.im/p/eCDYWA | Mar 07 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Better #privacy options are a competitive advantage. And we need to be aware that younge http://p.ost.im/p/eCLxwq | Mar 07 14:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I hear Apple is doing some event today? Anyone know what that is about? ;-) | Mar 07 14:28 | |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Mar 07 14:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 I have #Kindle app on #Android and #WebOS, so I just spent about $3 on @laurelrusswurm's "Inconstant Moon" for Kindle. | Mar 07 14:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Airport body scanners are useless: ur1.ca/8k5ij | Mar 07 14:50 | |
| schestowitz | and gas in the US is actually relatively cheap | Mar 07 14:59 |
| schestowitz | although things are far apart in place like Indiana | Mar 07 14:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] $1B of TSA Nude Body Scanners Made Worthless By Blog http://is.gd/IgSUKg | Mar 07 15:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] The @CommerceGov app challenge--an interview with Mike Kruger by @MarkBoTech | http://red.ht/yV9U2Z #opensource #gov20 | Mar 07 15:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] There's also George Martin who has been called "the fifth Beatle" | Mar 07 15:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think I caught the Reverse Flu | Mar 07 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | (mentioned on Red Dwarf) | Mar 07 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | symptoms include waking up and feeling really good for no particular reason | Mar 07 15:23 |
| schestowitz | Hey DaemonFC | Mar 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:59] <schestowitz> and gas in the US is actually relatively cheap | Mar 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | [14:59] <schestowitz> although things are far apart in place like Indiana | Mar 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | depending on your lifestyle, you might be able to simplify it | Mar 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | find jobs that let you work from home | Mar 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | it will save you a LOT of issues | Mar 07 15:30 |
| schestowitz | shaving, driving, seeing or get watched by supervisors, costs of petrol, garage, paperwork, maintaining more than one major place (although you can still visit your office routinely for face-to-face meetings, form-signing) | Mar 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz | alternatively, combined exercise with travel | Mar 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz | i.e. turn walks into jogs, or vice versa | Mar 07 15:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @anwajler: RT @cienkamila #debataACTA @bobson: "prawo ma regulować zasady norm społecznych, a nie przetrwanie modeli biznesowych" | Mar 07 15:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] The Ultimate Cheat Sheet for *nix systems - "Rosetta Stone for Unix" from http://identi.ca/url/5092268 | Mar 07 15:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Everything is relative :) | Mar 07 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | with shitty fuel economy standards over the years | Mar 07 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | cars guzzle about twice what they should | Mar 07 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | and anything that doesn't is priced right out of the market for most people | Mar 07 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | keeps demand on oil higher than it should be | Mar 07 15:42 |
| schestowitz | you can work at home unless you're a farmer or in construction | Mar 07 15:42 |
| MinceR | he's a Farmer | Mar 07 15:42 |
| schestowitz | food can be delivered in vans, it's what roads should be used for - moving things, not just people | Mar 07 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Apparently that name is NOT because someone "farmed" | Mar 07 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | it was given to tax collectors | Mar 07 15:43 |
| MinceR | :D | Mar 07 15:43 |
| schestowitz | No need for ties at home... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1.png http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/0.png These are from today. | Mar 07 15:43 |
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| MinceR | <TaxCollector> time to go milk the cattle... | Mar 07 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, MinceR | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | pay up | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | you deadbeat | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | before I go tell our Lord that you are not paying tribute | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | he will surely smiteth thou | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | or something | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 15:44 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 07 15:44 |
| MinceR | different Lord | Mar 07 15:44 |
| DaemonFC | right, feudal system | Mar 07 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | see, not much has changed | Mar 07 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | we just call it something else | Mar 07 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | instead of "Lords" we have "job creators" | Mar 07 15:45 |
| MinceR | i mean the feudal lord collects the taxes and the imaginary lord does the smiting :> | Mar 07 15:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I was thinking of it last night | Mar 07 15:45 |
| schestowitz | There's an element of truth to it, but it requirs spin | Mar 07 15:46 |
| schestowitz | nations compete over brains | Mar 07 15:46 |
| schestowitz | and wealth | Mar 07 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | BRAINS!!!! | Mar 07 15:46 |
| schestowitz | they otherwise risk brain drain, which is infectious | Mar 07 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | UNNNGH!!!! | Mar 07 15:46 |
| schestowitz | when you lose one brain, you lose quality, it drives the rest away too | Mar 07 15:46 |
| *DaemonFC sniffs jono and walks off | Mar 07 15:46 | |
| schestowitz | see what happened to USSR | Mar 07 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | BRAIIIIIINS!!!! | Mar 07 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Mar 07 15:46 |
| schestowitz | And now to MinceR's nation | Mar 07 15:46 |
| schestowitz | So sometimes they allow entry only to rich people | Mar 07 15:47 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 07 15:47 |
| schestowitz | or smart ones, who get good jobs | Mar 07 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: to be fair, MinceR's nation is rather smallish | Mar 07 15:47 |
| schestowitz | like in Australia | Mar 07 15:47 |
| schestowitz | they don't mind attracting non-productive people | Mar 07 15:47 |
| schestowitz | as long as they bring money with themn | Mar 07 15:47 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: don't worry, it will get smaller | Mar 07 15:47 |
| schestowitz | which gives the nation more power over the neighbours | Mar 07 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's like if someone cut out my state (which is not a very large state, by population) and called it the sovereign nation of Indiana | Mar 07 15:47 |
| schestowitz | That's why Poland invited Jewry a long time ago and the USA brought Nazis in | Mar 07 15:47 |
| schestowitz | They gave them power with intellect and money | Mar 07 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: don't worry | Mar 07 15:48 |
| schestowitz | And so nations always compete for money and talent | Mar 07 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | EU will be assimilated | Mar 07 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Mar 07 15:48 |
| schestowitz | For the US, to retain the wealthy people is not too bad | Mar 07 15:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Read this. Willya? http://ur1.ca/8k64l | Mar 07 15:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If the Raspberry Pi is truly Open Hardware, it should be no problem for other manufacturers to fill the demand, innit?... http://b1t.it/a1ok | Mar 07 15:48 | |
| schestowitz | People like those oligarchs | Mar 07 15:48 |
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| schestowitz | it's better for the US to have Koch than for the .NL to have Koch | Mar 07 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm actually hoping that Puerto Rico applies for statehood | Mar 07 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | that would be something funny to watch | Mar 07 15:49 |
| schestowitz | it does help those robber barons put some capital in the US, even if much of it gets stashes in Cayman Islands or .CH | Mar 07 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans would be going apeshit | Mar 07 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | a new state full of people who speak Spanish | Mar 07 15:49 |
| XFaCE | "5. T_20 | Mar 07 15:49 |
| XFaCE | 29th February 2012 - 9:37 | Mar 07 15:49 |
| XFaCE | What's not to like.... ummm... doesn't it run Linux? A 20-year old copy of a 40-year old operating system (Unix). Poor kids!" - dumbass on the Raspberry Pi | Mar 07 15:49 |
| schestowitz | so in a sense, it makes sense for the US to appease the rich by allowing them to dodge tax | Mar 07 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It would do most people there good to become a state | Mar 07 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Just to put ot bluntly, each nation wants some criminals, as long as they are RICH criminals | Mar 07 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | they'd have to pay federal taxes, but.... | Mar 07 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | they'd also be under the federal minimum wage laws | Mar 07 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | so many of them would get $3-4 more an hour than they do now | Mar 07 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | businesses don't want that | Mar 07 15:50 |
| XFaCE | "Linus, Windows, OSX... I'm not taking sides, just suggesting that none of these are great for teaching programming. My first bike had 3 wheels and no brakes but it was the right thing to get me motivated! | Mar 07 15:50 |
| XFaCE | The Pi is very cheap hardware, but it's the software that will be make or break if we want to teach our kids programming." - backpedalling | Mar 07 15:50 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: who said that? | Mar 07 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | right now they get slave labor and they get to say the shit was made in the US | Mar 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | it could be worse | Mar 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | they still leave SOME jobs in the US | Mar 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | The paper-pushing ones | Mar 07 15:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Dumbass commentator on one of the BBC articles I've found | Mar 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | see what happens when they do credit card handling in Bangalore | Mar 07 15:51 |
| XFaCE | looks like the online ones omit the "must write your own OS" nonsense | Mar 07 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: there's been some return of manufacturing to Indiana | Mar 07 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | but the jobs that are coming in don't pay close to what the jobs that left did | Mar 07 15:51 |
| schestowitz | or give access to senstitive info that can be used for blackmail | Mar 07 15:52 |
| XFaCE | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17196115 | Mar 07 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Raspberry Pi - a rapturous reception .::. Size~: 96.42 KB | Mar 07 15:52 |
| XFaCE | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17231698 | Mar 07 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Raspberry Pi network plan for online free-speech role .::. Size~: 69.65 KB | Mar 07 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | we lost the union jobs that were paying $14+ an hour | Mar 07 15:52 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: BBC has comments? | Mar 07 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Rory's blog? | Mar 07 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | and we're getting non-union jobs that pay $9-10 an hour | Mar 07 15:52 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: first link | Mar 07 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | they're not living wage jobs | Mar 07 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | you work twice as hard and make about a third less | Mar 07 15:53 |
| schestowitz | oh, that's rory | Mar 07 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | and that's for the lucky ones | Mar 07 15:53 |
| XFaCE | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17192823 | Mar 07 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Raspberry Pi computer: Can it get kids into code? .::. Size~: 84.17 KB | Mar 07 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I don't like him, he doesn't like me either | Mar 07 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | the unlucky ones get to go work at Walmart or something | Mar 07 15:53 |
| schestowitz | He follows Tim from TechBytes | Mar 07 15:53 |
| XFaCE | that last one doesn't mention OSS or Linux at all | Mar 07 15:53 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: That sounds like a good thing :P | Mar 07 15:53 |
| schestowitz | he's not the worst | Mar 07 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Maggie Shiel is the worst | Mar 07 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: if you were smart, you'd drive Walmart out of your country :) | Mar 07 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | now, before they suck you dry | Mar 07 15:54 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17190918 mentions linux | Mar 07 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - The Raspberry Pi computer goes on general sale .::. Size~: 72.71 KB | Mar 07 15:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: we have them here | Mar 07 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | if they get a large enough presence, anywhere, you start seeing tons of empty shops | Mar 07 15:54 |
| schestowitz | under camouflage | Mar 07 15:54 |
| schestowitz | "ASDA" | Mar 07 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | and then 10 miles out, there's a Walmart the size of the fucking Death Star | Mar 07 15:55 |
| schestowitz | ASDA: we're not Waltons, honest! | Mar 07 15:55 |
| schestowitz | but we have another duopoly here | Mar 07 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They like to go on and on about how efficient they are | Mar 07 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | truth is, they really aren't | Mar 07 15:55 |
| schestowitz | mostly Sainsbury's vs Tesco, with Aldi creeping in from Germany | Mar 07 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | they jsut have so much buying power that they can beat concession after concession out of their suppliers | Mar 07 15:56 |
| schestowitz | and others being Morrisons, they probably won't survive those smaller ones | Mar 07 15:56 |
| XFaCE | This criticism of the Ras Pi mentioned on Wikipedia is quite silly | Mar 07 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | and there's nothing the supplier can do about it | Mar 07 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Dixons was bought by Curry's - consolidation | Mar 07 15:56 |
| XFaCE | "Harry Fairhead, however, suggests that more emphasis should be put on improving the educational software available on existing hardware, using tools such as Google App Inventor to return programming to schools, rather than adding new hardware choices.[70]" | Mar 07 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Eventually there will be one brand for everything | Mar 07 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Like Lada | Mar 07 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: It's a $35 computer | Mar 07 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | how much can you really complain? | Mar 07 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | you know? | Mar 07 15:56 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: yeah, which is why the criticism is sillu | Mar 07 15:57 |
| XFaCE | Google App Inventor? Really? | Mar 07 15:57 |
| schestowitz | One supermarket (Walton), one soda company (Coca Cola), one OS (Android!! Yeaaaah!) and still we'll call it free market capitalism, even though it's more like Russian Communism with no choices | Mar 07 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've shifted pretty much all my grocery shopping to ALDI | Mar 07 15:57 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Monopolies | Mar 07 15:57 |
| XFaCE | oh and | Mar 07 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | I used to go to Walmart for a lot of it | Mar 07 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | but their prices are not the best | Mar 07 15:58 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: they're killing pepsi already? | Mar 07 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Aldi is like HTC - quietly brilliant | Mar 07 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | and their groceries aren't any better than ALDI's | Mar 07 15:58 |
| XFaCE | "Simon Rockman, writing in a ZDNet blog, was of the opinion that teens will have "better things to do", despite what happened in the '80s.[71]" | Mar 07 15:58 |
| schestowitz | many people don't know Aldi even exists, even though it dates back to some pro-Nazi family before w2 | Mar 07 15:58 |
| XFaCE | more sheer brilliance | Mar 07 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | there's a few loss leader items that Walmart has a few cents cheaper than Dollar Tree | Mar 07 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | they're even trying to run Dollar Tree out of business now | Mar 07 15:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no, cause RMS drinks Pepsi :> | Mar 07 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | it's kind of amusing, as the economy tanks | Mar 07 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | to watch Walmart losing customers | Mar 07 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | to ALDI and the dollar stores | Mar 07 15:59 |
| schestowitz | LOO dollar store | Mar 07 15:59 |
| schestowitz | we have pound stores here, haven't been to one for hald a century | Mar 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Dollar Tree is the shiznit :) | Mar 07 16:00 |
| schestowitz | decade I mean | Mar 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | they get closeout stuff | Mar 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | and drop shipments | Mar 07 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | and you just never know what you'll find when you go in there | Mar 07 16:00 |
| schestowitz | soi it's a bargain always... supermarkets can't put the price tags on them and modify listing quite some spontaneously | Mar 07 16:00 |
| schestowitz | also, at wal-mart those things would be unhelpful competition to premium stuff that they really make money on | Mar 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Dollar Tree is a whole store of clearance items that manufacturers and larger stores just want rid of | Mar 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz | not the enticers | Mar 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | you mark it all down to $1, someone will buy it | Mar 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Jabba the Hut | Mar 07 16:01 |
| schestowitz | Hutt | Mar 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | there's some things where they have dedicated suppliers | Mar 07 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | cheap off brand cleaning chemicals and detergents | Mar 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | and I haven't been disappointed with any of them | Mar 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | you clean?! | Mar 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, my apartment | Mar 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | sure I do | Mar 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm joking | Mar 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | oh, I almost forgot | Mar 07 16:02 |
| schestowitz | I have had my stuff in my landury machine for hours | Mar 07 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | the truth about those cleaning chemicals and detergents | Mar 07 16:03 |
| schestowitz | Would have forgotten it there for days... | Mar 07 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | they cost almsot nothing to produce | Mar 07 16:03 |
| schestowitz | brb | Mar 07 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | you go to Walmart and get lysol and tide, you're paying for their ad campaigns | Mar 07 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | not better stuff | Mar 07 16:03 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 07 16:03 |
| schestowitz | 25% on average | Mar 07 16:03 |
| XFaCE | Murphy's Oil Soap | Mar 07 16:03 |
| schestowitz | A lot more for stuff like COke or Apple | Mar 07 16:03 |
| schestowitz | where advertising is almost the whole value -- perceived value | Mar 07 16:03 |
| XFaCE | buying hype | Mar 07 16:04 |
| schestowitz | buying affiliation | Mar 07 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There's one manufacturer that makes almost all the off brand sodas in the US | Mar 07 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | it's called Cott Beverages | Mar 07 16:04 |
| schestowitz | the company sells the public the status | Mar 07 16:04 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: yep | Mar 07 16:04 |
| schestowitz | $COMPANY says $PRODUCT makes $BUYER cool | Mar 07 16:04 |
| XFaCE | Pepsi, Coke, Cadbury, Cott | Mar 07 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | if you look at the suppliers for Walmart, Kroger, ALDI, so on.... | Mar 07 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | always Cott | Mar 07 16:04 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I wonder if that applies to Canada too | Mar 07 16:04 |
| schestowitz | $BUYER buys #PRODUCT from $COMPANy to fell cool and for $BUYER's friends to feel like $BUY is cool | Mar 07 16:05 |
| XFaCE | in Canada, we now have generic Coke AND Pepsi, not just cola | Mar 07 16:05 |
| schestowitz | That's the implicit agreement | Mar 07 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | I go to Krogers for my soda | Mar 07 16:05 |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Srsly, generic versions of both | Mar 07 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | they have the best knock offs of the name brands | Mar 07 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | less than half the price | Mar 07 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | name brand stuff, you're paying for their advertisements | Mar 07 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's stupid | Mar 07 16:05 |
| schestowitz | The cult busllship artist Steve Jobs hypnotises the public, they then give him money (making Jobs richer) to get some emotional orgasmic egocentric porn | Mar 07 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's beyond stupid | Mar 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | It's like a regligion | Mar 07 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | I buy Pepsi stuff when they're having a REAL good sale on it | Mar 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I recently started buying vitamin tablets | Mar 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Aldi has good deals on them | Mar 07 16:06 |
| schestowitz | at boots it's twice the cost | Mar 07 16:06 |
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| DaemonFC | like, sometimes they have them for $1.50 per 2 liter, but at the same time, you buy 4 you get 2 free | Mar 07 16:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anti-Piracy Co. Blames Hack For Bogus DMCAs, But They’re Just Sloppy http://goo.gl/TTDtK | Mar 07 16:06 | |
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| schestowitz | at Holland and Barrat -- quadruple | Mar 07 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | I stock up when they do that | Mar 07 16:07 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: http://www.presidentschoice.ca/LCLOnline/products.jsp?breadcrumb=globalsearch&type=details&keywords=cola&productId=3933 | Mar 07 16:07 |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: http://reviews.presidentschoice.ca/6584/F16869/reviews.htm | Mar 07 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: President's Choice - PC New Wave Cola customer reviews - product reviews - read top consumer ratings .::. Size~: 53.92 KB | Mar 07 16:07 |
| XFaCE | see? | Mar 07 16:07 |
| schestowitz | that has bad sugars, just make tea | Mar 07 16:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: fuckk yeah | Mar 07 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: one summer I snagged a whole bunch of 50 cent off coupons off the 2 liters of Pepsi stuff | Mar 07 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | saved them | Mar 07 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | waited for a sale like that to go on | Mar 07 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | $1 each, buy 4 get 2 free | Mar 07 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 07 16:08 |
| XFaCE | I never thought I'd see the day when we have generic Coke and Pepsi | Mar 07 16:08 |
| *DaemonFC is sneaky like that | Mar 07 16:08 | |
| XFaCE | Ingreidents-wise, there like a 4% difference in sugar, maybe less | Mar 07 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: and I bought a ton of them because they had a thing that summer where if you redeemed so many bottlecap codes, you got free movie tickets | Mar 07 16:08 |
| schestowitz | [16:05] <XFaCE> in Canada, we now have generic Coke AND Pepsi, not just cola | Mar 07 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | so I bought like 50-some 2-liters of Pepsi stuff | Mar 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Generic - asx though it's a drug | Mar 07 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | paid $20-some dollars | Mar 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz | are there Pepsi "patches"? | Mar 07 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | and ended up getting 5 free movie tickets | Mar 07 16:09 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: In Canada, no name brands have been more widely embrassed | Mar 07 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | oh it gets better | Mar 07 16:09 |
| XFaCE | Hell, we have a no name brand called No Name | Mar 07 16:09 |
| schestowitz | of course | Mar 07 16:10 |
| schestowitz | they're dangerous | Mar 07 16:10 |
| schestowitz | to consumerism | Mar 07 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | after I got the five free movie tickets, I cut out some coupons for this restaurant/movie theater in Fort Wayne | Mar 07 16:10 |
| schestowitz | to the lifestyle of rich ****s | Mar 07 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | $1 off each meal for every person | Mar 07 16:10 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=zLZ-UaUnLNY6FM:&imgrefurl=http://www.canadiandesignresource.ca/officialgallery/packaging/diet-cola-can/&docid=5ZL4yTwfEYQxwM&imgurl=http://www.canadiandesignresource.ca/officialgallery/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/DSC_3661-CDR.jpg&w=415&h=319&ei=UYhXT55Ky-qCB9PWvekM&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=109&vpy=147&dur=1400&hovh=197&hovw=256&tx=125&ty=108&sig=112857173323086857182&page=1&tbnh=136&tbnw=19 | Mar 07 16:10 |
| XFaCE | 7&start=0&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=673&bih=597 | Mar 07 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | we are learned to judge people by the brands on their stuff | Mar 07 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | and I took my mom, brother, and Dave out to eat one day | Mar 07 16:10 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp32/jason7photo/cola.jpg | Mar 07 16:10 |
| schestowitz | what they eat, wear, drive | Mar 07 16:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 07 16:10 |
| schestowitz | "Johnny is a Mercedes guy, he's a rich" | Mar 07 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | I try to snipe deals like that | Mar 07 16:10 |
| schestowitz | "Ralph is a Ferarri guy, he's agood at sports" | Mar 07 16:11 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Meh, Mercedes hasn't meant the same thing since the 190 series | Mar 07 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | where you can stack them on top of each other and effectively end up paying very little | Mar 07 16:11 |
| schestowitz | * Ferrari | Mar 07 16:11 |
| XFaCE | and the ill-advised diesel cars | Mar 07 16:11 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: fair enough | Mar 07 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | you know, those diesel cards aren't bad | Mar 07 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | as long as you have an engine block heater | Mar 07 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | or else you'll never get the thing to start in winter | Mar 07 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | they tax gasoline a LOT higher than they tax diesel | Mar 07 16:12 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Of course, diesel cars *in general* aren't bad (no worse than gasoline) | Mar 07 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | you go through a tank a week, you'll end up saving several dollars a week on fuel | Mar 07 16:12 |
| schestowitz | "MAdame HArmon wears Chanel - she's a divorced parasite" | Mar 07 16:12 |
| XFaCE | But the implementations of diesel cars in the 80s were terrible | Mar 07 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | not divorced | Mar 07 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | widowed | Mar 07 16:12 |
| schestowitz | "Ryan wears CAT - he's a farmer" :-) | Mar 07 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | if there is a heaven, my grandfather deserves it for putting up with her for all those years | Mar 07 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | then again, after he died, some of his past surfaced | Mar 07 16:13 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Diesel cars in Europe are quite good | Mar 07 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | and it turns out I have a half uncle | Mar 07 16:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Attacking the clones: indie game devs fight blatant rip-offs http://goo.gl/8Np7O | Mar 07 16:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm thinking maybe I rushed into the tablet thing a bit too quickly | Mar 07 16:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Amazon #Patents Annotating Books, Digital Works http://goo.gl/j9E7O | Mar 07 16:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Android isn't bad | Mar 07 16:15 |
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| DaemonFC | but I think if I had it to do over, I would have gone for one with Plasma Active on it | Mar 07 16:15 |
| XFaCE | The Spark? | Mar 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | I've had the occasional bad Android app | Mar 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify's is jsut terrible | Mar 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | hard freeze every so often | Mar 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | takes down the entire OS | Mar 07 16:16 |
| XFaCE | The KDE Spark? | Mar 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | but by and large, most of them are good | Mar 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think that's what they called it | Mar 07 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Mar 07 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | there's an oxygen-gtk3 bug fix release available | Mar 07 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | it couldn't get much worse than it is now | Mar 07 16:18 |
| DaemonFC | right now, some GTK3 apps can't even be used if you have that theme | Mar 07 16:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] UK ISPs Lose Their Challenge To The Digital Economy Act; Entertainment Industry Responds Condescendingly http://goo.gl/nVNoZ | Mar 07 16:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | some more of KDE 4.8.1 is incoming | Mar 07 16:18 |
| MinceR | don't diesel engines still produce a lot of soot? | Mar 07 16:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oh, so now "#activist" is a bad word? ♻ @Liberationtech: MPAA Chief Chris Dodd: P2P Activists Share 690M Movies a Year http://t.co/DlzI2bU4 | Mar 07 16:20 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: so woot? | Mar 07 16:20 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: They're better now | Mar 07 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: not the newer ones | Mar 07 16:20 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: not really | Mar 07 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | the fuel itself is better regulated now than it used to be | Mar 07 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | "low sulfur diesel" is what you tend to see now | Mar 07 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | thanks to more EPA oversight | Mar 07 16:21 |
| XFaCE | http://stallman.org/archives/2012-jan-apr.html#07_March_2012_(Healthy_Alternatives) | Mar 07 16:21 |
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| XFaCE | "Diesel exhaust causes lung cancer, but not enough is being done to reduce it." | Mar 07 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | "Under Dubya, the US was building a new Interstate highway mainly for trucks to drive from Mexico to Canada. Wasn't that stupid? An electified train line would have been much cheaper, used less space, produced less pollution, and burned less oil. However, the oil companies dislike the idea of burning less oil." | Mar 07 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | still going on | Mar 07 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | the NAFTA Superhighway crap | Mar 07 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | some of that is happening in Indiana | Mar 07 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Mar 07 16:23 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How The iPad Could Give Microsoft Office Revenue A Serious Revenue Haircut (TechCrunch): http://tcrn.ch/w6zrrR (via @techmeme) | Mar 07 16:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://stallman.org/archives/2012-jan-apr.html#07_March_2012_%28Ivory_Tower%29 | Mar 07 16:25 |
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| XFaCE | Rick Runoff: SHUT OFF...YOUR BRAIN. | Mar 07 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft previews Windows 8 Embedded (Computerworld ) http://bit.ly/Az25aK | Mar 07 16:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://stallman.org/archives/2012-jan-apr.html#07_March_2012_%28Virginia_Fighting_NDAA%29 | Mar 07 16:29 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: "Developers can use the same development tools they would use for Windows 8, such as Microsoft's .Net framework, to build applications for this embedded OS." | Mar 07 16:29 |
| XFaCE | AHAHAHAHA | Mar 07 16:29 |
| MinceR | lulz | Mar 07 16:32 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Write "Hello World" today! | Mar 07 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | well, Microsoft is paying by the app, unless they changed their policy | Mar 07 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | wait, that was for Vista phone | Mar 07 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | well, I'd expect that if that policy isn't changed, they might have 40,000 useless apps in a short time | Mar 07 16:34 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Yeah, this is from the Vista 8 Embedded link in a dent | Mar 07 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | and the entire store will be a content farm | Mar 07 16:34 |
| XFaCE | [11:26] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [joabj/@joabj] Microsoft previews Windows 8 Embedded (Computerworld ) http://bit.ly/Az25aK | Mar 07 16:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 30,000 WordPress blogs infected to distribute rogue antivirus software (Network World): http://bit.ly/xDNhJy | Mar 07 16:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New programming languages come From designers not academia -- i.e. Ruby, JavaScript, PHP, Python (Slashdot): http://bit.ly/wy4rTP | Mar 07 16:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmm, the kdelibs 4.8.1 package fixed the Amarok context pane bug | Mar 07 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | KDE 4.8 was already pretty stable | Mar 07 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | Debian says they plan to ship Wheezy with KDE 4.8.1 or 4.8.2 | Mar 07 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | Amarok's memory usage has gone way down too | Mar 07 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | have a playlist of all my songs loaded and playing, and it's sitting at 89 MB of RAM | Mar 07 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | that's much better | Mar 07 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | leave it to Ubuntu to take their best variant out back and shoot it to prop up that Unity crap | Mar 07 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 16:47 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Freaking Out by Adema (eponymous) [Amarok] | Mar 07 16:48 | |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 07 16:48 |
| *MinceR is listening to: various PC cooler fans running | Mar 07 16:49 | |
| DaemonFC | nepomuk and akonadi have lost some weight too | Mar 07 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_8_0to4_8_1.php | Mar 07 16:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @sebas !KDE Ships March Updates to Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform: http://ur1.ca/8k6vp !linux | Mar 07 16:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | Kubuntu has removed Kopete | Mar 07 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | they push KDE Telepathy now | Mar 07 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | which is....not bad | Mar 07 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | I like Kopete's UI better, but some things that have been broken in Kopete for months or years work perfectly fine in KDE Telepathy | Mar 07 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | so I've finally switched | Mar 07 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.8.1.php | Mar 07 16:54 |
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| XFaCE | switched to what? | Mar 07 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | KDE Telepathy | Mar 07 17:02 |
| XFaCE | kompete? | Mar 07 17:02 |
| XFaCE | oh | Mar 07 17:02 |
| XFaCE | k | Mar 07 17:02 |
| XFaCE | on a somewhat related note, is Trinity any better? | Mar 07 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't call what they do "development" | Mar 07 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | more like decay management | Mar 07 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | take a look at their patch log sometime | Mar 07 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | hack after hack after hack | Mar 07 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | it looks pretty ugly | Mar 07 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | but, if you like it, it's your system and I'm glad for you | Mar 07 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | for each person working on Trinity there's more than 100 people working on KDE 4 | Mar 07 17:05 |
| XFaCE | I'm still on XFCE | Mar 07 17:05 |
| XFaCE | http://trinitydesktop.org/patches/ | Mar 07 17:06 |
| XFaCE | can you point out what you mean? | Mar 07 17:06 |
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| DaemonFC | tqt itself is pretty bad | Mar 07 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | performance is worse than Qt3 ever was | Mar 07 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | they managed to break compatibility with KDE 3 window styles and a lot of the themes | Mar 07 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | they added a crude compositing manager based on XRENDER, but if you want to use XRENDER for your compositing manager, kwin 4 has always had that | Mar 07 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The life story of the XInput multitouch extension http://ur1.ca/8k74e | Mar 07 17:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's not a good choice if you have decent video drivers though | Mar 07 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | XRENDER is very stable on most cards/drivers but it can also be much slower, and no true 3d effects work with it | Mar 07 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | and it has no tearing control | Mar 07 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | at least with most ddx drivers for most cards | Mar 07 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | xfwm4 uses XRENDER and there's some tearing with it | Mar 07 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | performance is better than kwin 4 with XRENDER, but worse than kwin 4 with OpenGL ES | Mar 07 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | the best thing about xfwm is it seems to use about a fifth as much system RAM as kwin 4 does | Mar 07 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | does that matter? only if you don't have much RAM | Mar 07 17:11 |
| MinceR | also, it doesn't glitch all over the place if no 3d acceleration is available or enabled | Mar 07 17:12 |
| MinceR | and it doesn't crash left and right :> | Mar 07 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | neither does kwin | Mar 07 17:12 |
| MinceR | o rly? | Mar 07 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | kwin is perfectly usable without compositing | Mar 07 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's just not as pretty :) | Mar 07 17:12 |
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| MinceR | yeah, if you like random pixels in your title bars | Mar 07 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | when did that happen? | Mar 07 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | the last KDE release I used that was simply intolerable was 4.1 | Mar 07 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | it is very stable now | Mar 07 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | it performs quite well | Mar 07 17:13 |
| MinceR | 4.3 | Mar 07 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the resource usage issues are being plugged | Mar 07 17:14 |
| MinceR | the "it's really mature now, we swear" release | Mar 07 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | and.....at least they SAY KDE 5 won't be a violent shake up | Mar 07 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | I had my doubts about whether KDE would ever recover from the 4.0 disaster | Mar 07 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | they have | Mar 07 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | if nothing else, they've had the last 4 years to kill bugs and optimize it | Mar 07 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | so it would be disappointing if it hadn't recovered by now | Mar 07 17:16 |
| XFaCE | the 4.0 disaster was still not as bad as the 3.0 gnome disaster | Mar 07 17:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 07 17:19 |
| schestowitz | reminds me of a private Disaster{TM} meme | Mar 07 17:23 |
| XFaCE | Of course, the best "disaster" was XFCE 4.8 | Mar 07 17:23 |
| XFaCE | Suck it, bitchez | Mar 07 17:23 |
| MinceR | ? | Mar 07 17:23 |
| MinceR | april fools? | Mar 07 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | the GNOME 3.0 disaster is getting worse with each release | Mar 07 17:23 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Err, no, I'm serious | Mar 07 17:24 |
| XFaCE | XFCE 4.8 was and is awesome | Mar 07 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | you close Empathy and....where the FUCK did it go? | Mar 07 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | it's still running | Mar 07 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | it won't let you open it by clicking on the icon | Mar 07 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | incoming messages are still coming in via the shell | Mar 07 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | I want my contact list DAMN IT | Mar 07 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | this isn't funny | Mar 07 17:25 |
| MinceR | i don't see anything disastrous about xfce 4.8 | Mar 07 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | ok, haha, where's my contact list? | Mar 07 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME is just brain dead | Mar 07 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | their shell is even worse than Unity | Mar 07 17:26 |
| schestowitz | I saw unity last month | Mar 07 17:27 |
| schestowitz | don't get me started.. | Mar 07 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's very inconsistent | Mar 07 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | especially with menu handling | Mar 07 17:27 |
| schestowitz | I used it for a day... not used it much, ended up chatting with colleagues all day | Mar 07 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | some things have menus in the application | Mar 07 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | some things use the global menu | Mar 07 17:28 |
| MinceR | oh, the april fools joke was xfce 4010 | Mar 07 17:28 |
| schestowitz | buttons on the "wrong" side, menus far away | Mar 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | some things use the "ZOMGSCROLOLOLOLOLBAR" | Mar 07 17:28 |
| schestowitz | it's like when I used KDE 3.1 Mac OS X menu style | Mar 07 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | and some things don't | Mar 07 17:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Danish Trade Minister Apologizes For Using Bogus Industry Numbers To Support Pro-#ACTA Argument - http://bit.ly/zG0sTJ like most of them #dk | Mar 07 17:28 | |
| XFaCE | MinceR: That's why I put "disaster" in "" | Mar 07 17:28 |
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| XFaCE | MinceR: XFCE 4010? | Mar 07 17:28 |
| XFaCE | "disaster" in "" | Mar 07 17:29 |
| XFaCE | [12:26] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Danish Trade Minister Apologizes For Using Bogus Industry Numbers To Support Pro-ACTA Argument | Techdirt .::. Size~: 71.39 KB | Mar 07 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Linus Torvalds at least admitted that you don't want a guy like him designing your GUI | Mar 07 17:29 |
| XFaCE | GOOD. | Mar 07 17:29 |
| XFaCE | ^@the danish TM | Mar 07 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | at least it's immediately obvious how to use KDE, more or less | Mar 07 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | at least there's consistency in KDE, more or less | Mar 07 17:30 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: http://ostatic.com/blog/xfces-early-april-fools-joke | Mar 07 17:30 |
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| DaemonFC | at least KDE doesn't do things that are truly bizarre and only done to make it act like OS X | Mar 07 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | unlike SOME projects have been doing ;) | Mar 07 17:31 |
| MinceR | KDE does do some bizarre things, only not that bizarre | Mar 07 17:31 |
| MinceR | like plasmoids that look like systray icons, but really aren't | Mar 07 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Measuring the economic impact of the #Sharing Economy - http://oreil.ly/A2xhfs hugely important issue: measuring the Negawatts | Mar 07 17:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Measuring the economic impact of the Sharing Economy - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 57.73 KB | Mar 07 17:32 |
| MinceR | and kwin's unwillingness to render the root window of plasma-desktop isn't running | Mar 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | oh, the presence notifier for KDE Telepathy is one of those | Mar 07 17:32 |
| MinceR | s/of/if/ | Mar 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | took me a while to figure out how to properly add that | Mar 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | it's not meant to reside IN the panel, it's meant as an applet for the system tray and only works properly that way | Mar 07 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how Red Hat let GNOME 3 turn out as badly as it did | Mar 07 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | it seems clownish and amateurish and it's loaded with bugs | Mar 07 17:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @Lewander @uianna next time! Hello from Hannover #CEBIT #cgc12 http://p.ost.im/p/eCh7yS | Mar 07 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !RaspberryPi challenge to get creative juices flowing - http://ur1.ca/66flr http://goo.gl/HTq9W | Mar 07 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: W/ tks to @DigitalAgendaEU - video of my time at #CeBIT #cgc12 http://t.co/5XXbnSNo Shar http://p.ost.im/p/eC5mKE | Mar 07 17:38 | |
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| MinceR | and dumbfuckbook fails yet again, right there | Mar 07 17:39 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu is proving to be an excellent decision by Oxford Archaeology http://goo.gl/P6yAo | Mar 07 17:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu is the open source platform of choice for Oxford Archaeology | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 38.48 KB | Mar 07 17:40 |
| schestowitz | QuickBuck Zuck | Mar 07 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Zuck Sachs :-) | Mar 07 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | the best way yet to volunteer all your personal information to potential employers and the police | Mar 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | http://www.bluemilkspecial.com/comics/2012-03-05-TESB%20089.jpg | Mar 07 17:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 07 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | there's also advertisers, but they're hardly worth mentioning after that | Mar 07 17:41 |
| schestowitz | The best way to rob people of their privacy is to own facebook :-) | Mar 07 17:41 |
| schestowitz | For everything else, there's CIA | Mar 07 17:42 |
| MinceR | it's better to own the usian government | Mar 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | I have a Facebook profile, but I've tweaked all the privacy settings to "Just Friends" | Mar 07 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | and I don't use it a whole lot | Mar 07 17:42 |
| MinceR | then you get to order dumbfuckbook around _and_ collect information from other sources too (CIA, telcos, other governments, etc.) | Mar 07 17:42 |
| MinceR | http://static.fsf.org/nosvn/no-facebook-me.png | Mar 07 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Obama is your friend | Mar 07 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Is is | Mar 07 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | my DirecTV DVR uses XFS | Mar 07 17:43 |
| schestowitz | *he is | Mar 07 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | with a realtime Linux kernel | Mar 07 17:44 |
| schestowitz | !google ndaa obama | Mar 07 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - President Obama Signed the National Defense Authorization Act ... | http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/ | Mar 07 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Obama's Signing Statement on NDAA: I have the power to detain ... | http://www.infowars.com/president-obamas-ndaa-signing-statement-i-have-the-power-to-detain-americans-but-i-wont/ | Mar 07 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - President Obama Signs Indefinite Detention Bill Into Law | American ... | http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law | Mar 07 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Obama uses NDAA to halt Iranian assets — RT | http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-ndaa-act-iran-645/ | Mar 07 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | and it uses the Guaranteed-rate I/O API of XFS | Mar 07 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | apparently DirecTV complies with the GPL | Mar 07 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | they submit their patches to the Linux kernel upstream | Mar 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | including some for XFS | Mar 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | I guess someone needs to call them out for being communists | Mar 07 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | making $24 billion a year net and using ZOMG COMMUNIST LINUX!!!!1111 | Mar 07 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Dish Network uses a similar configuration on their receiver and DVR boxes | Mar 07 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | I've been using XFS on my flash memory lately, at least the stuff I won't be using on my portable media player or with non-Linux systems | Mar 07 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still stuck with FAT32 on a few of them | Mar 07 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 07 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | XFS is faster all around by a very noticeable margin | Mar 07 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | I tried using Ext2 for a while just to see what would happen, it brought my write speeds down to about the level of FAT32 | Mar 07 17:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTgMUo13VG8&feature=channel | Mar 07 17:51 |
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| DaemonFC | my recommendation to anyone that asks is that if performance is important to you at all, just use XFS | Mar 07 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | Ext4 just isn't going anywhere and it's questionable if BtrFS will ever be usable | Mar 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1390710 | Mar 07 17:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @darkvador@joindiaspora.com: Anony-Mouse #gif  | Mar 07 17:53 |
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| schestowitz | Hmm... that's a bad logo | Mar 07 17:53 |
| schestowitz | it looks like a dude shagging a girl is you treat the ears as heads | Mar 07 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mickey Mouse and Ronald McDonald | Mar 07 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | but not Joe Camel (anymore) | Mar 07 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't eat fast food anymore if I can possibly avoid it | Mar 07 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | I used to do it a lot and when I stopped, I lost over 40 pounds | Mar 07 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | that is some seriously bad stuff | Mar 07 17:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CIA is being renamed next month. It will be called IF (Involuntary Facebook). | Mar 07 17:56 | |
| DaemonFC | the last time I went on an extended road trip I just packed some cold cut sandwiches in a cooler | Mar 07 17:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/8k7sr | Mar 07 18:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.4 | Mar 07 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC | Wine 1.4 is out | Mar 07 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | new stable branch | Mar 07 18:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wine 1.4 released http://ur1.ca/8k82m | Mar 07 18:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] German government publishes "Migration Guide 4.0" (in German, suprisingly) http://is.gd/gqLKwb #Kolab #Migration #DE | Mar 07 18:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Migrationsleitfaden 4.0 in schlanker Neufassung | heise open .::. Size~: 82.05 KB | Mar 07 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] @greve Quirky, though: The groupware solution with the most client options is described as having limited client options. Aha. | Mar 07 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Wine 1.4 released: http://ur1.ca/8k84y | Mar 07 18:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Said "I'd do $ACTION " meant as suggestion to non-native English speaker addressee he should do it, but he read it as me saying *I* would | Mar 07 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Chris Dodd: The Internet Developed Because Of Strict Copyright Enforcement http://goo.gl/pWWeR | Mar 07 18:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chris Dodd: The Internet Developed Because Of Strict Copyright Enforcement | Techdirt .::. Size~: 95.35 KB | Mar 07 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Look at this Class-A TROLL :- Chris Dodd: The Internet Developed Because Of Strict Copyright Enforcement http://www.t... http://b1t.it/a1sl | Mar 07 18:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Work to Simplify Creation of Content in World's Languages http://ow.ly/1hSmxY | Mar 07 18:41 | |
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| DaemonFC | hmm, looks like DirecTV has a new package that's $15 a month less than mine | Mar 07 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | and most of the channels I'd give up are sports channels and channels for kids :P | Mar 07 18:45 |
| *DaemonFC investigates further | Mar 07 18:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] This week in censorship: Denmark and Tajikistan block websites, and an Uzbek news site gets DDoSed https://eff.org/r.2Uv #netfreedom | Mar 07 18:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] (Cr)Apple's reality distortion field continues ... http://ur1.ca/8k8cj | Mar 07 18:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: This Week in Censorship: Blocking Sites in Denmark and Tajikistan | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.78 KB | Mar 07 18:48 |
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| *DaemonFC changed line ups | Mar 07 18:49 | |
| DaemonFC | wonder how long I've been paying for sports channels and shit in Spanish | Mar 07 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Mar 07 18:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bill Gates and his groupies are still pillaging and plundering India, using proprietary (secret) code and Trojan horses http://ur1.ca/8k8f8 | Mar 07 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Mar 07 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Mar 07 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels now | Mar 07 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Bill Gates and his groupies are still pillaging and plundering India, using proprietary (secret) code and Trojan horses http://ur1. ... | Mar 07 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Bribing for Tamil Nadu (India) to Drop GNU/Linux in Education http://ur1.ca/8k8f8 #india #edgi #gnu #linux | Mar 07 18:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "Verifying your ssh keys on github In response to a recent vulnerability, github.com is emailing all pr... http://b1t.it/a1sU | Mar 07 19:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/story/2012-03-07/solar-storm-earth-power-disruptions/53398390/1 | Mar 07 19:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Biggest solar storm in years nears Earth, may disrupt power – USATODAY.com .::. Size~: 46.71 KB | Mar 07 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | a massive solar flare is apparently heading toward Earth | Mar 07 19:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I don't agree; I think it should not be your, but *my* decision whether to forget something you told me | Mar 07 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This too http://ur1.ca/084yd http://ur1.ca/8k8kn | Mar 07 19:15 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57392454/calif-teacher-on-leave-over-porn-video-allegation/?tag=re1.channel | Mar 07 19:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Calif. teacher on leave over porn video allegation - CBS News .::. Size~: 89.88 KB | Mar 07 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] oooh !kde 4.7.2 landed in !debian/!aptosid? should I upgrade imediately, or wait a bit? | Mar 07 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Wants ‘Linux Tax’, OIN Still Unable to Do Much http://ur1.ca/8k8o0 #oin #swpats #ibm #apple | Mar 07 19:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-pat-robertson-20120306,0,658940.story?track=icymi | Mar 07 19:29 |
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| DaemonFC | He's a stoner now? | Mar 07 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Brogramming, it's a thing now (YouTube): http://bit.ly/xQxlwG | Mar 07 19:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux Setup, Noah Lorang, 37signals http://ur1.ca/8jkl6 #gnu #linux | Mar 07 19:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twilio's definitive brogramming primer - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.88 KB | Mar 07 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: there is only a scandal when there is penis | Mar 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | it's ok to bribe | Mar 07 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | "The televangelist said that "liberals" are to blame for punitive laws that put too many young people behind bars for possessing small amounts of marijuana." | Mar 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | to cheat | Mar 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | etc. | Mar 07 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | let's ignore Reagan | Mar 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | as long as the penis stays behind the fkly | Mar 07 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | and the whole War on Drugs | Mar 07 19:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Scroll LeftScroll Right | Mar 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Peyton Manning says emotional goodbye to ColtsSPORTSPeyton Manning says emotional goodbye to Colts1 of 9 | Mar 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Bill Maher: Accept Rush Limbaugh's apologyCELEBRITY CIRCUITBill Maher: Accept Rush Limbaugh's apology2 of 9 | Mar 07 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Super Tuesday sets up long slog to GOP nominationPOLITICAL HOTSHEETSuper Tuesday sets up long slog to GOP nomination3 of 9 | Mar 07 19:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Why do I have this bad feeling this will be used to create more efficient ads?.. ur1.ca/8k8rn | Mar 07 19:31 | |
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| schestowitz | "The Oxnard School District says the Haycock Intermediate School teacher has been placed on paid administrative leave while allegations of her participation in sex videos are investigated." | Mar 07 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Two things: | Mar 07 19:32 |
| schestowitz | 1) why is this news for CBS | Mar 07 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | why does Pat Robertson want legal marijuana? | Mar 07 19:32 |
| schestowitz | 2) why is this such a major offence? | Mar 07 19:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: to make his followers more numbskulled | Mar 07 19:33 |
| schestowitz | more $$ | Mar 07 19:33 |
| schestowitz | 4. Profit! | Mar 07 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | I mean I know his viewers would have to be stoned, stupid, or stoned stupid to be watching him anyway | Mar 07 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | but, still | Mar 07 19:33 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 07 19:33 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know why a teacher should be suspended for doing something entirely legal | Mar 07 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | but this is the country where the MPAA allows videos of people being torn apart with their eyeballs being gouged out, like Saw | Mar 07 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | and bans sex | Mar 07 19:35 |
| schestowitz | you don't get it, do you? :-) | Mar 07 19:35 |
| schestowitz | this is commercialised violence | Mar 07 19:35 |
| schestowitz | like... nakd people in museum, good | Mar 07 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | "It's OK to mutilate and kill people unless you're doing it with your penis hanging out!" | Mar 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | in porn - bad | Mar 07 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | no, I get it | Mar 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | wine - classy | Mar 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | cider - trashy | Mar 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | anti-depressents - rich man's luxury | Mar 07 19:36 |
| schestowitz | LSD - illegal, unless you're rich (Steve Jobs) | Mar 07 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla Firefox 13 Set to Improve Security with ASLR http://ur1.ca/8k8to #mozilla #firefox | Mar 07 19:36 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: if it's made from grapes it's cool | Mar 07 19:37 |
| schestowitz | but not from apple | Mar 07 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Unless it's Apple | Mar 07 19:37 |
| schestowitz | the trademark :-) | Mar 07 19:37 |
| schestowitz | the alcohol neds to be extracted from expensive fruit that require ***loads of poor farmers picking up fruit like graps for less than minimum wage (illegals/imports) | Mar 07 19:37 |
| schestowitz | *grapes | Mar 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like wine | Mar 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't | Mar 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see why anyone would drink it | Mar 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | or pay that kind of money for it | Mar 07 19:38 |
| schestowitz | it's the sweat and great effort (personal sacrifice) that gives the wine its TASTE!!! hmmmmmmm... delicious. | Mar 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: beer | Mar 07 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | fuck those damned snobs | Mar 07 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | pass me a beer | Mar 07 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, beer is kind of looked down on, depending on what "brand" it is | Mar 07 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | some of them are "alright", the really expensive ones | Mar 07 19:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] http://ur1.ca/8k8vh /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dammim @flintsoul @ennismungai | Mar 07 19:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I actually do like Colt 45, but it has kind of a "white trash" image to it | Mar 07 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | oh look, lots of alcohol and it's not expensive.....let's save the time and arrest him now | Mar 07 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | you know he's going home to beat and rape the wife | Mar 07 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: rich people have all kinds of stupid expensive vices | Mar 07 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | like cigars | Mar 07 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | cigars that can cost upwards of $100 each | Mar 07 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, come on | Mar 07 19:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Part of “Technological Evangelism” according to Microsoft is to denigrate competitive brands" http://ur1.ca/8k8wp #linux #gnu #fsf | Mar 07 19:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] How #healthcare became an extortion racket in #USA ur1.ca/8i13o | Mar 07 19:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | they might as well just pull out a $100 bill and burn it | Mar 07 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | that's essentially what they're doing | Mar 07 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | spending $100 on a cigar just to show they have that kind of money to waste | Mar 07 19:44 |
| MinceR | not only that, actually | Mar 07 19:44 |
| MinceR | they're also sucking on a phallic object while harming their lungs :> | Mar 07 19:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LXDE: This Lightweight Distro Isn't Missing Much http://ur1.ca/8k8xi #lxde #gnu #linux | Mar 07 19:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "The new iPad. The universe echoes in tune with the deafening vastness of my meh." https://plus.google.c... http://b1t.it/a1ue | Mar 07 19:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux News: Reviews: LXDE: This Lightweight Distro Isn't Missing Much .::. Size~: 14.67 KB | Mar 07 19:45 |
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| DaemonFC | it can't be that harmful | Mar 07 19:45 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they take it to the throat | Mar 07 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | the fat pig Rush Limbaugh still roams the Earth | Mar 07 19:45 |
| schestowitz | tell you what, attach some testicles to the next cigar Rush smokes | Mar 07 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | the state is the one that's addicted to the fucking cigarettes | Mar 07 19:46 |
| schestowitz | then call his mouth what it is | Mar 07 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | addicted to the high tax revenues | Mar 07 19:46 |
| schestowitz | he speaks out of his arse | Mar 07 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | addicted to all the people that die off without collecting their retirement money | Mar 07 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | after paying into it their whole life | Mar 07 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | and the state never has to refund it to any of their heirs | Mar 07 19:47 |
| schestowitz | US of anarchy\ | Mar 07 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | the state is perfectly happy if you live to be 64 years and 11 months old and keel over after paying their fucking Social Security taxes your whole life | Mar 07 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | couldn't be happier with you | Mar 07 19:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] an #iPad sounds like a piece of first aid kit used to patch a damaged eye | Mar 07 19:48 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it has a tendency to cause lung cancer | Mar 07 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: That's the great thing about it | Mar 07 19:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/03/google-scaling-back-support-for-the-cr-48/ | Mar 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | they don't have to care | Mar 07 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Scaling Back Support For The CR-48? .::. Size~: 48.31 KB | Mar 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | they leave you to die | Mar 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | let your health insurance drop you | Mar 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | and you die without a penny to your name | Mar 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | while Rush Limbaugh is lighting up another $100 big brown dick | Mar 07 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 07 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] " Simply because it’s incredible and addicting to have so much information pouring out of a screen. Google has us by... http://b1t.it/a1uh | Mar 07 19:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - " Simply because it’s incredible and addicting to have so… .::. Size~: 80.64 KB | Mar 07 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's a reason why that show Breaking Bad resonates well with poor and middle class viewers | Mar 07 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | the protagonist gets lung cancer and is given mere months to live | Mar 07 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | he has a mundane everyman kind of job as a school teacher and works part time at a car wash | Mar 07 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | and this is where he says "fuck it" and becomes a drug kingpin | Mar 07 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | and out there, a lot of viewers are thinking "Go Walt!" | Mar 07 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | "Gee, I wish I had the balls to do that!" | Mar 07 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | "Ohhh, better go to bed and get some sleep, big day at Walmart tomorrow" | Mar 07 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 07 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/2012/03/press-roundup-0302.php | Mar 07 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Breaking Bad Cast Talks About Show's Final Season - Breaking Bad - AMC .::. Size~: 88.89 KB | Mar 07 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | they're canceling it? | Mar 07 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | that shows ratings are through the roof | Mar 07 19:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Facepalm. Infinite times. http://ur1.ca/8k920 | Mar 07 19:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Eric Holder shockingly defends warrantless wiretapping as a *good* example of due process and checks & balances https://eff.org/r.4Uw | Mar 07 19:56 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Daniel Bos - Google+ - Shut up, slave...! .::. Size~: 80.8 KB | Mar 07 19:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: No Checks or Balances in Warrantless Wiretapping Despite Holder's Assurances | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 37.06 KB | Mar 07 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Eric Holder should be in prison | Mar 07 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | not the AG | Mar 07 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The HUD is Officially Available For Unity 2D On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin http://ur1.ca/8k98h #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Mar 07 20:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The HUD is Officially Available For Unity 2D On Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin | LinuxNov .::. Size~: 47.89 KB | Mar 07 20:03 |
| schestowitz | [19:49] <DaemonFC> they leave you to die | Mar 07 20:04 |
| schestowitz | unless you can make them rich when you stay alive | Mar 07 20:04 |
| schestowitz | and they don't need to hire collectors | Mar 07 20:04 |
| MinceR | http://www.tabletroms.com/index.php/2011/10/23/getting-ready-to-build-ics-from-android-source-code-heavy-duty-machines-required/ 16GB RAM recommended | Mar 07 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Getting ready to build ICS from Android Source Code – Heavy duty machines required ! – Welcome to the tabletroms.com development community .::. Size~: 53.27 KB | Mar 07 20:08 |
| MinceR | what. the. fuck. | Mar 07 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 07 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | not news | Mar 07 20:09 |
| schestowitz | 25GB disk space to do a single build. | Mar 07 20:09 |
| MinceR | i'm trying to get the sdk to the point where i can build binaries from c that are linked to their retarded libc | Mar 07 20:10 |
| MinceR | but it looks like that's not going to happen | Mar 07 20:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nosonja XFCE 2012.02.29 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/8k9gt | Mar 07 20:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nosonja XFCE 2012.02.29 Screenshots | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | The Leader in Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshots | Screen Shots of Linux Distributions, BSD, Solaris & Other OSes | Linux, BSD, Solaris & Other OS Screenshot Gallery .::. Size~: 29.49 KB | Mar 07 20:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm from identi.ca with 68 dents! | Mar 07 20:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hammer. #nuffsaid http://ur1.ca/8k9o3 | Mar 07 20:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: No Justice No Peace » Mutter von Dennis J. soll Schaden an Polizeifahrzeug bezahlen .::. Size~: 30.62 KB | Mar 07 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if there's no technical hitches, it may connect you to #SteveJobs not #KimJongIll | Mar 07 20:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @laquadrature: [en][TechDirt] Danish Police Accidentally Censor Over 8,000 Sites As Child Porn... Including Facebook http://t.co/xOMQ47VV | Mar 07 20:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [TechDirt] Danish Police Accidentally Censor Over 8,000 Sites As Child Porn... Including Facebook | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 15.83 KB | Mar 07 20:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Nicely done - Github compromised, or not?! http://ur1.ca/8k9ts | Mar 07 20:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Conteúdos do #Facebook verificados por jovens pagos a 1 dólar à hora http://goo.gl/LrfXz #privacy | Mar 07 20:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Github compromised, or not?! [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 9.33 KB | Mar 07 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.aboutlinux.info/2012/03/google-play.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AllAboutLinux+%28All+about+Linux%29 | Mar 07 20:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Rolls Out a New Cloud Storage For Your Entertainment Needs | All about Linux .::. Size~: 43.03 KB | Mar 07 20:38 |
| schestowitz | emote storage | Mar 07 20:38 |
| schestowitz | "cloud" - spying is "Free" | Mar 07 20:38 |
| schestowitz | do some flodding in Thailand, make storage expensive, offer "free" storage online - the perfect conspiracy [SARCASM] | Mar 07 20:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] new #iPad won't work properly in the UK http://goo.gl/zGgsB - won't stop the fanbois emptying their wallets & jizz on it though | Mar 07 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] already a fanboi has enough breath left after cuming, to post a comment, network doesn't support it yet = IT DON'T WORK - future yes, now no | Mar 07 20:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New iPad announced but it won’t work properly in UK | Benjamin Cohen on Technology .::. Size~: 35.95 KB | Mar 07 20:42 |
| schestowitz | I only trust Michal, she's the only one I open up to, and vice versa. She tells me stuff she won't tell mom and dad, I'm like her second dad. | Mar 07 20:46 |
| schestowitz | disregard that, hehe, it's a paste of something about my friend | Mar 07 20:47 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91657858 | Mar 07 20:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ClaudioM (claudiom)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Mar-12 20:34:24 UTC - Identi.ca: This is nice! How new is this distribution? | Mar 07 20:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how do you set the default theme in #Mediawiki? I got the users pref theme fixed but can't change the default for everyone | Mar 07 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bank. 2.0 and beyond. http://ur1.ca/8kadc | Mar 07 20:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Patents are supposed to reward innovation, but in the software industry, they are having the opposite effect http://w... http://b1t.it/a1wv | Mar 07 20:58 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - "Patents are supposed to reward innovation, but in the… .::. Size~: 80.02 KB | Mar 07 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu Forums and AskUbuntu - two important parts of our community - http://is.gd/84goEV #ubuntu | Mar 07 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bill threatens to de-fund public energy research in Minnesota http://identi.ca/url/67713991 !science | Mar 07 21:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Forums and AskUbuntu | jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 27.09 KB | Mar 07 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bill threatens to de-fund public energy research in Minnesota - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 38.34 KB | Mar 07 21:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Must get Bruce Schneier to Arrabbiata. Lazyweb and friends, please help. | Mar 07 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hilarious if nothing else http://ur1.ca/8kaiw | Mar 07 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Higgs Boson has not been discovered (again, in the same place) http://identi.ca/url/67714007 !science | Mar 07 21:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Test cricket too hard for Indians... can only make money in 20-20: Greg - Indian Express .::. Size~: 51.62 KB | Mar 07 21:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Higgs Boson has not been discovered (again, in the same place) - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 33.97 KB | Mar 07 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ketamine - Magic Antidepressant, or Expensive Illusion? http://identi.ca/url/67714055 !science | Mar 07 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] More evidence that financial speculators drive crazy food-price swings http://identi.ca/url/67714058 | Mar 07 21:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Neuroskeptic: Ketamine - Magic Antidepressant, or Expensive Illusion? .::. Size~: 91.67 KB | Mar 07 21:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chris Dodd: The Internet Developed Because Of Strict Copyright Enforcement - http://bit.ly/xKj7Ln not in this universe, maybe not in any | Mar 07 21:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Isn't It Time Artists Lost Their 18th-Century Sense Of Entitlement? http://goo.gl/aI4It | Mar 07 21:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chris Dodd: The Internet Developed Because Of Strict Copyright Enforcement | Techdirt .::. Size~: 140.56 KB | Mar 07 21:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Isn't It Time Artists Lost Their 18th-Century Sense Of Entitlement? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 117.06 KB | Mar 07 21:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What he says. And I am saying since 2002. http://ur1.ca/8kart | Mar 07 21:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jay McKinsey - Google+ - "Patents are supposed to reward innovation, but in the… .::. Size~: 78.25 KB | Mar 07 21:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear @support !identica, @ljachowicz asks how can he connect his id account with twitter so that his tweets will get dented? | Mar 07 21:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] How to find and protect yourself against the pro-Syrian-government malware on your computer, by @headhntr and @evacide https://eff.org/r.U6x | Mar 07 21:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to Find and Protect Yourself Against the Pro-Syrian-Government Malware on Your Computer | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 37.25 KB | Mar 07 21:25 |
| zoobab | hi | Mar 07 21:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] This Article Generating Thousands Of Dollars In Ad Revenue Simply By Mentioning New iPad http://ur1.ca/8kb2a... http://b1t.it/a1xl | Mar 07 21:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Qt 5 alpha approaching http://ur1.ca/8kb3r #qt #nokia | Mar 07 21:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Development] Qt 5 alpha approaching .::. Size~: 2.95 KB | Mar 07 21:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome to see the Ubuntu Translations community exploring which accomplishments to add to Ubuntu Accomplishments. :-) #ubuntu | Mar 07 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NVIDIA Is Joining The #Linux Foundation http://ur1.ca/8k2hh will they fix their drivers now? | Mar 07 21:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] NVIDIA Is Joining The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 21.97 KB | Mar 07 21:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] I'm currently looking for data sheets / programming manuals for mediatek MT6573... | Mar 07 21:53 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/177511869148446721?iid=am-203724525013311571025505205&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Mar 07 21:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @koolhead17: @schestowitz hehehe. Hope so, i assume they have much bigger gameplan/interest :) | Mar 07 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #NVIDIA joins the Linux Foundation - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/tJVWX #gnulinux #floss | Mar 07 22:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NVIDIA joins the Linux Foundation - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.86 KB | Mar 07 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1391745 | Mar 07 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NVIDIA Is Joining The #Linux Foundation http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA2NzI will they fix their drivers now? | Mar 07 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | "morally, i thing they have to " | Mar 07 22:12 |
| schestowitz | PR too | Mar 07 22:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Internet Explorer losing enterprise traction - InfoWorld http://ping.fm/nVX1Z | Mar 07 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source helicopters trivialize Europe's ODF troubles http://ur1.ca/8jirn #odf #eu | Mar 07 22:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] FUDCon APAC 2012 will be in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia! http://2tu.us/4ho2 | Mar 07 22:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Internet Explorer losing enterprise traction | Cyber crime - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 95.42 KB | Mar 07 22:22 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FUDCon APAC 2012 will be in lovely Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia! .::. Size~: 2.39 KB | Mar 07 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: . @netlash heeft vandaag geen rode broek aan. Het is maar dat je het weet. | Mar 07 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @epsiplatform: The #opendata forum: Flanders government to stimulate interaction w community on #ope http://ur1. ... | Mar 07 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp We kozen alleszins voor alles met hoofdletter. Maar organisatie is relatief groot en niet iedereen is even p ... | Mar 07 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp $(curl -s appsforghent.be | grep -c 'Apps for Ghent') → 0. Bedankt ;) | Mar 07 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exclusive Interview With Mark Shuttleworth, HUD, Ubuntu For Android And Much More http://ur1.ca/8kc14 #ubuntu | Mar 07 22:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Exclusive Interview With Mark Shuttleworth, HUD, Ubuntu For Android And Much More | Muktware .::. Size~: 57.24 KB | Mar 07 22:30 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 07 22:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] We need to return to the good ole times of a separation between state and commerce. Really. http://ur1.ca/5e5jo... http://b1t.it/a1yV | Mar 07 22:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Family values' – the same old story about rewarding the rich http://gu.com/p/362mc | Mar 07 22:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 'Family values' – the same old story about rewarding the rich | Suzanne Moore | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 274.96 KB | Mar 07 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I've been working on a new app in NodeJS. Might be interesting for you. | Mar 07 22:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Occupy Wall Street exposes judicial double standards http://gu.com/p/362p8 | Mar 07 22:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Occupy Wall Street exposes judicial double standards | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 154.27 KB | Mar 07 22:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] seems people are increasingly seeing #Apple's real genius http://goo.gl/iXipX #hype #marketing #repackaging - check the comments | Mar 07 23:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Can any Twisted Python experts help with this - weird process issues - http://is.gd/5WW9pf #twisted #python | Mar 07 23:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The WikiLeaks war on Sweden http://t.co/5atd8cmS | #svpol | Mar 07 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Blowing my mind | Mar 07 23:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan http://ur1.ca/8kcgx | Mar 07 23:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wow, are American conservatives starting to see the light on #WarOnDrugs?.. ur1.ca/8kchm #decriminalize | Mar 07 23:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] good point, if the LTE network won't hit the UK until 2015 at the earliest, and #Apple release a new version every yr, why have LTE? | Mar 07 23:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's big birthday celebration is tomorrow! Coming from @Official_GDC? Hop on our free shuttle from there - https://eff.org/r.3TR #GDC | Mar 07 23:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EFF's 22nd Birthday Bash Sponsored by Humble Bundle | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.77 KB | Mar 07 23:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, but: it's pretty nice. | Mar 07 23:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google !Chrome Goes Down in Early Stage of #Pwn2Own http://ur1.ca/8kcn1 | Mar 07 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] WRT #Yelp: "We believe that is extortion." http://ur1.ca/8kcnx | Mar 07 23:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Chrome Goes Down in Early Stage of Pwn2Own | threatpost .::. Size~: 54.64 KB | Mar 07 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A 1-star, unfiltered user review of Yelp .::. Size~: 119.43 KB | Mar 07 23:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @darshit Complete and easy to use !PHP library to interact with identi.ca platform. http://tinyurl.com/7ueqvoe | Mar 07 23:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Downloads - identica-php - Complete and easy to use PHP library to interact with identi.ca platform. - Google Project Hosting .::. Size~: 21.56 KB | Mar 07 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I hadn't seen that before. But it looks reaaaaaally old. Probably not very "complete". | Mar 07 23:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jwildeboer: WRT #Yelp: "We believe that is extortion." http://ur1.ca/8kcnx | Mar 07 23:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A 1-star, unfiltered user review of Yelp .::. Size~: 119.43 KB | Mar 07 23:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Obama Administration: #ACTA Is Binding & Don't Worry Your Pretty Little Heads About #TPP http://goo.gl/yVHXV | Mar 07 23:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Flame me, Android Fanbois. Apple announces iOS 5.1 update for a lot of devices including iPad 1, iPhone 3Gs, iPhone 4,... http://b1t.it/a1zQ | Mar 07 23:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obama Administration: ACTA Is Binding & Don't Worry Your Pretty Little Heads About TPP | Techdirt .::. Size~: 70.23 KB | Mar 07 23:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Flame me, Android Fanbois. Apple announces iOS 5.1 update… .::. Size~: 83.79 KB | Mar 07 23:20 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian record industry demands SOPA-style censorship http://identi.ca/url/67718084 | Mar 07 23:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canadian record industry demands SOPA-style censorship - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 33.95 KB | Mar 07 23:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android outpaces IOS to widen US smartphone lead http://ur1.ca/8kc5x #android #linux | Mar 07 23:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android outpaces IOS to widen US smartphone lead - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 67.72 KB | Mar 07 23:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzplQtj0rTU&feature=digest_mon | Mar 07 23:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Don't forget: tomorrow is Wear Your EFF Swag to Work Day. Rock your EFF gear and show your stuff on #EFFatWork - https://eff.org/r.4T9 | Mar 07 23:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs: Social Security and Medicare Are 'Weaker' Promises Than Debt http://ur1.ca/8kcxv #goldmansachs #greed | Mar 07 23:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wear Your EFF Swag to Work Day! | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 19.6 KB | Mar 07 23:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Goldman Sachs: Social Security and Medicare Are 'Weaker' Promises Than Debt - Businessweek .::. Size~: 45.47 KB | Mar 07 23:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks on recent fabricated front page stories in the Swedish tabloid @Expressen http://t.co/GNHpEZEF | Mar 07 23:42 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Press release: WikiLeaks on Recent Fabricated Stories in the Swedish Press .::. Size~: 13.91 KB | Mar 07 23:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 7/3/2012: NVIDIA Joins Linux Foundation, Android Easily Beats iOS in the US http://ur1.ca/8kd98 #techrights | Mar 07 23:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 7/3/2012: NVIDIA Joins Linux Foundation, Android Easily Beats iOS in the US | Techrights .::. Size~: 109.18 KB | Mar 07 23:47 |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | Mar 07 23:56 | |
| gde33 | NVIDIA creates linux distro... or wait... :D | Mar 07 23:56 |
| schestowitz | possiby | Mar 07 23:58 |
| schestowitz | for example, out-of-the-box CUDA | Mar 07 23:58 |
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