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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Started a new #Facebook campaign to try to get #Tesco to do the right thing by consumers in practice http://goo.gl/oTgkn please RT | Mar 09 00:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #CIA Admits Using News To Manipulate the USA (1975 video) | The Vigilant Citizen http://goo.gl/MXp6M #usa #medialies #propaganda | Mar 09 00:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Every Little Helps http://goo.gl/YoIiy #Tesco #consumerpower #campaign #Facebook | Mar 09 00:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Coming to EFF's Birthday Bash from @Official_GDC? Hop on our free shuttle at Moscone N Driveway or right out on Howard. 7:30 & 8ish. #GDC | Mar 09 00:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Rep. Rogers' "Cybersecurity" bill: broad definitions with broad ramifications for #FreeSpeech https://eff.org/r.U7A | Mar 09 00:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://video.adultswim.com/robot-chicken/inuyasha.html | Mar 09 00:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Letter from Aldous Huxley to George Orwell About #1984 http://goo.gl/FhUpv #distopy | Mar 09 01:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » iPass Away – Do My Digital Downloads Die with Me? http://goo.gl/ddr1S #mafiaa | Mar 09 01:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: cryptogon.com » Letter from Aldous Huxley to George Orwell About 1984 .::. Size~: 16.49 KB | Mar 09 01:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » U.S. Gives #Israel Advanced #Weapons to Delay War with #Iran http://goo.gl/zas15 #usa #newspeak | Mar 09 01:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Is This Fruit Extract 10,000 Times Better Than Chemo? | Before It's News http://goo.gl/ddjeK #herbal | Mar 09 01:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] The Australian: Julian #Assange's homegrown hardnosed lawyer Jennifer Robinson http://t.co/zHwbBQTO @suigenerisjen | Mar 09 01:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: "Assange offered up to the US by PM and AG like a child sacrifice to Moloch" | ABC http://t.co/Zk9imV6G #auspol | Mar 09 01:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] Woo! Octave is applying for GSoC. Let's hope we get accepted! | Mar 09 01:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian Assange speaks about impending extradition and other attacks on WikiLeaks: "The time to act is now!" http://t.co/H5SAiobf #auspol | Mar 09 03:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Transcript of this morning's Assange interview on ABC http://t.co/XNBmosJh #auspol | Mar 09 03:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks Etc.: Transcript: Julian Assange on ABC Radio, 9 March 2012 .::. Size~: 68.69 KB | Mar 09 03:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Great news for Open Street Maps :-) http://ur1.ca/57bug But Apple remain as classless as ever :-P https://plu... http://b1t.it/a2me | Mar 09 04:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I unsubscribed from !disturbing by accident and now it has no admin. !statusnet #meta | Mar 09 04:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] More bugs fixed tonight in Ubuntu Accomplishments, and some interest from some folks in the web editor piece! #ubuntu | Mar 09 05:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @octaviotron: Con apoyo de la #FSFLA, Rionegro Argentina Aprueba por unanimidad Ley de Software Libre. Información enviada hoy por @kronos | Mar 09 05:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @octaviotron: Diputados dieron lectura en su espacio a la carta de la #FSFLA, en la cual se presentaban las 4 libertades fundamentales | Mar 09 05:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] gracias a Javier Barcena por su trabajo en la Ley de Software Libre de Rio Negro, Argentina! | Mar 09 06:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] y un saludo de gratitud a @kronos por gestionar la participación de !FSFLA en el proyecto | Mar 09 06:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] desculpa mais comum para não promover mulheres no trabalho: falta característica X, querendo dizer que falta cromossomo Y :-/ | Mar 09 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Earlier today I blogged asking for help with the web editor for accomplishments...I just merged in the first branch. Awesome! #ubuntu | Mar 09 07:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] prueba, a ver si @octaviotron es un rt-bot ;-D | Mar 09 07:03 | |
| schestowitz | 0/ | Mar 09 07:28 |
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| scientes | hey | Mar 09 07:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Really? "Students from RI tend to go into politics and govt, ACS into business" says teacher at pri 6 briefing. Hmm. #fb #in | Mar 09 07:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] >> prueba, a ver si @octaviotron es un rt-bot ;-D%a> @octaviotron: @lxoliva segmentation fault%a// :-D | Mar 09 07:33 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/SovereignNews/statuses/177986603497697281 | Mar 09 07:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @SovereignNews: Bill Gates Pays the BBC, Gets Coverage From the BBC when will the whoring end! http://t.co/FHbvLjXP | Mar 09 07:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @lovenemesis Raspberry Pi becomes more delicious with the #Fedora Remix released. Yummy~ http://ur1.ca/8kzw4 | Mar 09 07:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1396479 | Mar 09 07:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To Run Windows Software on Linux, Try Wine 1.4 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/251510/to_run_windows_software_on_linux_try_wine_14.html | Mar 09 07:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: To Run Windows Software on Linux, Try Wine 1.4 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 80.74 KB | Mar 09 07:45 |
| schestowitz | "I just tried to install it and it hasn't hit the software center yet, any idea what the package name is I tried sudo apt-get install wine1.4 which follows the same format as 1.3 (wine1.3) and it says unable to find package unable to find regex wine1.3 " | Mar 09 07:45 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Knoppix 7.0 Presented at CeBIT 2012 http://ur1.ca/8l9x2 #debian #gnu #linux | Mar 09 08:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FTA Community demands TradePub to correct inappropriate use of FTA course books http://ur1.ca/8l9yf open source book | Mar 09 08:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FTA Community demands TradePub to correct inappropriate use of FTA course books | Free Knowledge Institute .::. Size~: 19.75 KB | Mar 09 08:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu One Gets Redesigned in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS http://ur1.ca/8l9z7 #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Mar 09 08:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Primer on Scientific Programming with Python, an interview with author Hans Petter Langtangen http://ur1.ca/8la02 #python | Mar 09 08:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sabayon 8 Xfce review – Gentoo for the masses http://ur1.ca/8la12 #sabayon | Mar 09 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source maps a new education future http://ur1.ca/8la3x #opensource #education | Mar 09 08:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sabayon 8 Xfce review – Gentoo for the masses | Linux User .::. Size~: 48.48 KB | Mar 09 08:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Improving Hardware Support in Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8la5l Just Ubuntu or Linux? | Mar 09 08:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla Doesn't Want Pepper for Linux Flash http://ur1.ca/8la72 #mozilla #AdobeTrash | Mar 09 08:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chrome is a proprietary Web 'browser' (toolbar really, with spy features). For quite some time it has come bundled with Trash player. | Mar 09 08:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google was never big on Web standards. In older days even Google Search was not standards-compliant, still many browsers unsupported. | Mar 09 08:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Free Hardware and The Rise of Android http://ur1.ca/8kxuw #linux #android | Mar 09 08:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android tablet surge will be led by Google-Motorola, HP, Dell in '12 http://ur1.ca/8lacj #android #linux #tablet | Mar 09 08:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi Linux distro released, but the $35 computer faces new delays http://ur1.ca/8ladd #linux | Mar 09 08:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Android tablet surge will be led by Google-Motorola, HP, Dell in '12 | ZDNet .::. Size~: 225.25 KB | Mar 09 08:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] W3C CEO calls HTML5 as transformative as early Web http://ur1.ca/8lae6 says the guy who engineered MS-Novell patent deal. #swpats | Mar 09 08:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Danish trade minister and ACTA booster apologise for bogus piracy numbers http://ur1.ca/8kn52 #acta #lie | Mar 09 08:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Graziano and Garlach44 announce free software laptops with Trisquel preloaded http://ur1.ca/8lags #fsf #linux | Mar 09 08:33 | |
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| schestowitz | " Domain schestowitz.com has exceeded the max emails per hour (218/200 (109%)) allowed. Message will be reattempted later" | Mar 09 08:35 |
| schestowitz | Meh | Mar 09 08:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Evolution Of Enterprise Linux Performance http://ur1.ca/8lajh #rhel #gnu #linux | Mar 09 08:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux 3.4 Kernel Will Gain More Android Patches http://ur1.ca/8lakp for those who deny that #android success is good for #Linux | Mar 09 08:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Linux 3.4 Kernel Will Gain More Android Patches .::. Size~: 17.44 KB | Mar 09 08:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/178035512605544448?iid=am-42194999313312819487761061&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Mar 09 08:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #Mozilla Doesn't Want #Pepper for #Linux Flash—"Pepper is a non-standard API *and codebase*" http://t.co/qjwIPmyf #AdobeTrash | Mar 09 08:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hype About iPads http://ur1.ca/8lank Linux/Android is where it's at right now | Mar 09 08:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CeBIT 2012: LPI announces "Linux Essentials" certificate http://ur1.ca/8lap6 #cebit #linux | Mar 09 08:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Two asteroids named after Unix co-creators http://ur1.ca/8laqp #astronomy #unix | Mar 09 08:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Develop Android apps from within Android using AIDE (video) http://ur1.ca/8larl #android #dalvik #linux | Mar 09 08:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vagrant celebrates its 1.0 stable release http://ur1.ca/8latm | Mar 09 08:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NSA, German government using Android for secure phones http://ur1.ca/8lavc "secure" as in "national security", i.e. spying? | Mar 09 08:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Modified headline /(IDG): Ubuntu Linux 12.04 One-Ups Windows and Mac, Shuttleworth Says http://ur1.ca/8kdwd | Mar 09 08:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Linux 12.04 One-Ups Windows and Mac, Shuttleworth Says ( - Software - Operating systems, non-Windows ) .::. Size~: 37.08 KB | Mar 09 08:57 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/178039913244131328?iid=am-212786989413312829979909350&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 http://identi.ca/notice/91712405 | Mar 09 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz #Danish trade minister and ACTA booster apologise for bogus #piracy numbers http://t.co/f0FXCIhW #acta #lie Cc: @Juliantla | Mar 09 08:57 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 09-Mar-12 08:50:05 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz #Danish trade minister and ACTA booster apologise for bogus #piracy numbers http://ur1.ca/8kn52 #acta #lie Cc: @Juliantla | Mar 09 08:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91712449 | Mar 09 08:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @The Root's Updates (rootbrian)'s status on Friday, 09-Mar-12 08:54:22 UTC - Identi.ca: I can LOL all day at that one. Why haven't they chosen BlackBerry? | Mar 09 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Wolff on Greek Crisis: Harbinger of US Future? http://ur1.ca/8lb5v #greece | Mar 09 09:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/3/2012: KDE 4.8.1, New Wine http://ur1.ca/8lb9g #techrights | Mar 09 09:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 9/3/2012: KDE 4.8.1, New Wine | Techrights .::. Size~: 131.4 KB | Mar 09 09:15 |
| MinceR | probably because blackberry is dying? | Mar 09 09:22 |
| MinceR | also, it relies on servers run by RIM, doesn't it? that can't be good for security | Mar 09 09:22 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Mar 09 09:25 |
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| scientes | MinceR, i think ur right | Mar 09 09:33 |
| scientes | that blackberry proxys everything, "for speed" | Mar 09 09:34 |
| scientes | alot of android phone also proxy IIRC | Mar 09 09:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] !sr Would someone who can read French please review this profile: username: packliberte UID 606925. Perhaps #silenced by mistake? | Mar 09 09:40 | |
| schestowitz | BB is canadian | Mar 09 09:40 |
| schestowitz | don't the messages of Obama go through there? | Mar 09 09:40 |
| schestowitz | president of the US: powered by corporations, relayed through Canada(TM) :-) | Mar 09 09:41 |
| Formic_ | no | Mar 09 09:41 |
| Formic_ | BB has servers in the US | Mar 09 09:41 |
| schestowitz | but they're mastered by RIM | Mar 09 09:41 |
| Formic_ | Obama uses a special encryption algorithm that RIM doesn't have access to | Mar 09 09:41 |
| schestowitz | but it's still relayed though Canada | Mar 09 09:42 |
| schestowitz | They could remove the servers | Mar 09 09:42 |
| Formic_ | its not | Mar 09 09:42 |
| schestowitz | and stand in the middle of transmissions | Mar 09 09:42 |
| Formic_ | US servers | Mar 09 09:42 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yeah, obama actually has their own versions of BB | Mar 09 09:43 |
| scientes | they made a soecuak deal with the company | Mar 09 09:44 |
| Formic_ | im wondering whats better than eliptical curve diffie helman | Mar 09 09:44 |
| scientes | pretty insane if you ask me, they should have just used android | Mar 09 09:44 |
| Formic_ | cause obama's got it | Mar 09 09:44 |
| scientes | anways gn | Mar 09 09:44 |
| MinceR | what a hipster | Mar 09 09:44 |
| Formic_ | meh the president needs a phone that has secure encryption | Mar 09 09:44 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it's such a good idea to use encryption algorithms that haven't undergone peer review | Mar 09 09:45 |
| Formic_ | rim has patents on the most secure ones | Mar 09 09:45 |
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| MinceR | that's what made GSM and WEP so insecure, after all | Mar 09 09:45 |
| Formic_ | haven't heard of the chinese hacking rim blackberries yet | Mar 09 09:46 |
| Formic_ | if anyone could, they would have | Mar 09 09:46 |
| MinceR | would they tell you if they did? :> | Mar 09 09:46 |
| Formic_ | someone would | Mar 09 09:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Thank you. | Mar 09 09:47 | |
| Formic_ | Elliptic curve Diffie–Hellman has undergone peer review by the way | Mar 09 09:49 |
| Formic_ | http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-56A/SP800-56A_Revision1_Mar08-2007.pdf | Mar 09 09:49 |
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| Formic_ | http://www.secg.org/download/aid-385/sec1_final.pdf | Mar 09 09:50 |
| MinceR | yes, but it isn't that special or proprietary, afaik | Mar 09 09:50 |
| Formic_ | http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/SuiteB_Implementer_G-113808.pdf | Mar 09 09:50 |
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| Formic_ | RIM owns the patents | Mar 09 09:50 |
| Formic_ | they have a monopoly on it | Mar 09 09:50 |
| MinceR | RIM owns ECDH? | Mar 09 09:51 |
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| Formic_ | last time I checked | Mar 09 09:52 |
| MinceR | well, that's sad | Mar 09 09:52 |
| Formic_ | whats really sad is WPA and WPA2 | Mar 09 09:56 |
| Formic_ | as well as WEP before it | Mar 09 09:57 |
| MinceR | WEP was a hack job by people who knew nothing about cryptography | Mar 09 09:57 |
| MinceR | but what's wrong with WPA[2]? | Mar 09 09:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why The Chances of #China Joining ACTA Or TPP Are Practically Zero - http://bit.ly/wFHEWG thus rendering #ACTA pointless | Mar 09 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The problem with software patents? They don't scale - http://bit.ly/ySYr8W 18th cent. ideas don't work for 21st cent materials #swpats | Mar 09 10:00 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz:http://www.osnews.com/story/25688/US_government_claims_right_to_seize_any_com_domain Hmmm this is not good | Mar 09 10:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] YES. So und nicht anders! Via +Kristian Köhntopp http://ur1.ca/8lc4q | Mar 09 10:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Humans are Nicer Than We Think | Motherboard" from http://identi.ca/url/67778308 | Mar 09 10:42 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: but is it news? | Mar 09 10:42 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Not that much. But question is how far the USA going to push it. | Mar 09 10:43 |
| schestowitz | we have techrights.com | Mar 09 10:48 |
| schestowitz | I have about 8 .com domains | Mar 09 10:48 |
| schestowitz | because that's where people first look | Mar 09 10:48 |
| schestowitz | or, if you get .co.uk and .org, people might hijack the .com one | Mar 09 10:48 |
| schestowitz | not much incentive to so the opposite | Mar 09 10:49 |
| schestowitz | so when we got techrights.org David said we should quickly pick the .com as well | Mar 09 10:49 |
| schestowitz | but not vice versa, that is, no point getting http://schestowitz.net/ and http://schestowitz.org/ - people would usually check .com first | Mar 09 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Couldn't resolve host 'schestowitz.net' ( http://schestowitz.net/ ) | Mar 09 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | groklaw had some issues cause it picked .net | Mar 09 10:50 |
| schestowitz | and then journalists would link to .com | Mar 09 10:50 |
| schestowitz | and PJ corrected them | Mar 09 10:50 |
| schestowitz | http://groklaw.com | Mar 09 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | So they got the .com as well | Mar 09 10:50 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Now worse nightmare is if USA starts forcing filtering on USA hosted dns servers. | Mar 09 10:54 |
| schestowitz | it already does this | Mar 09 11:07 |
| schestowitz | usually for the MAFIAA | Mar 09 11:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !identicurse seems to be crashing for me ever since a recent update on !Xubuntu - I'm looking for clues :) | Mar 09 11:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !identicurse is giving me: "TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects" | Mar 09 11:13 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I was meaning the dns servers that replicate data from other countries. | Mar 09 11:16 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: if they start doing that things will get annoying. | Mar 09 11:17 |
| schestowitz | yeah, it'll probably happen | Mar 09 11:33 |
| schestowitz | not a matter of "if", just "when" | Mar 09 11:33 |
| schestowitz | the US empire is dissolving, so all those bad policies (censorship, NDAA) will get more severe | Mar 09 11:34 |
| schestowitz | it will be disguised as some fight against something scary, probbaly "terror" (domestic too) | Mar 09 11:34 |
| schestowitz | terror is when the population rises up against a corrupt regime | Mar 09 11:34 |
| schestowitz | something within the same state | Mar 09 11:34 |
| schestowitz | "Terror" then becomes just synonym for effective "opposition to the government" | Mar 09 11:35 |
| schestowitz | or to a colonist, like when someone tries to fight away an occupier from abroad | Mar 09 11:35 |
| schestowitz | but they start with the MAFIAA censorship, because that's just tied to commercial interests and they can issue some propaganda about "loss to piracy" | Mar 09 11:36 |
| schestowitz | "Piracy" and terrorism are not not so different, but only if you assume real piracy and not "copyright infringement" | Mar 09 11:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Fedora #FTW! http://ur1.ca/8ld7g | Mar 09 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] χρειαζομαι διακοπές | Mar 09 11:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Forensics blunder 'may endanger convictions' http://gu.com/p/363y8 | Mar 09 11:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Forensics blunder 'may endanger convictions' | Law | The Guardian .::. Size~: 100.58 KB | Mar 09 11:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Far right hardcore 'willing to prepare for armed conflict' http://gu.com/p/363gb | Mar 09 11:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Yes, life without God can be bleak. Atheism is about facing up to that http://gu.com/p/363ed | Mar 09 11:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Far right hardcore 'willing to prepare for armed conflict' | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 107.87 KB | Mar 09 11:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yes, life without God can be bleak. Atheism is about facing up to that | Julian Baggini | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 264.03 KB | Mar 09 11:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Whoa whoa whoa. "Troll"? | Mar 09 11:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Kony 2012 - you might want to read this too. http://ur1.ca/8ldmt | Mar 09 11:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #YouTube confessional sending shockwaves through the #Buddhist world http://gu.com/p/363zh | Mar 09 11:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The YouTube confessional sending shockwaves through the Buddhist world | Mary Finnigan | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 161.34 KB | Mar 09 11:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] An open letter to men and boys on International Women's Day http://gu.com/p/363y6 | Mar 09 11:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: An open letter to men and boys on International Women's Day | Kevin Powell | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 262.87 KB | Mar 09 11:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Eurovision 2012: 'Buranovo Grannies' to represent Russia http://goo.gl/YcgqP with Humperdink, it's international yr of the elderly | Mar 09 12:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaked: Police Plan to Raid The Pirate Bay http://goo.gl/lmDzB #tpb | Mar 09 12:03 | |
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| schestowitz | "You lost me in your defence of Hilary Clinton.Genius? Right. And why no mention of the also-odious (for political NOT gender-based reasons) Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin? They've had it pretty tough as well, eh?" | Mar 09 12:04 |
| schestowitz | The comments on that piece are good | Mar 09 12:04 |
| schestowitz | "I missed the god and therapy bit, jeez - No what is needed is to be a reasonable human being, it doesn't take much." | Mar 09 12:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 09 12:04 |
| schestowitz | I really hate gender politics. | Mar 09 12:05 |
| schestowitz | As a woman I find it patronising. | Mar 09 12:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 09 12:05 |
| schestowitz | "God & therapy? Funny. I came to the same conclusion just by observing the world - & the women & the girls - around me & recognising that I didn't need to seek to have power (however illusory or transitory) over other people to make me a rounded, fulfilled individual..." | Mar 09 12:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Android Market rule prohibits use of third-party in-app payment services http://goo.gl/fgwVa #Apple patent? | Mar 09 12:05 | |
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| schestowitz | "I'm so sorry for being a man. It's clearly something I should feel guilty about. All the injustice and bigotry against women is MY fault. I'm white as well which makes it double badass on me. In fact, I'm white and male so I'm basically just Rush Limbaugh with a different name." | Mar 09 12:05 |
| schestowitz | "I think you missed the heavy sarcasm with which I responded. It's a sarcasm this dreadfully flawed piece deserves. The piece is based on the fact that men cause the problems and so men should solve them. Presumably this is while the little ladies cower in the corner or run about doing the chores? The Guardian version of Feminism is so often about evil white men and so little about what women can and should do for themselves. I believe | Mar 09 12:06 |
| schestowitz | in personhood not human beings defined by gender. Make of that what you will." | Mar 09 12:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bands Led By Youngbloods Ding Sony For $8M In iTunes Royalties http://goo.gl/Mqb3u remember kids, #Sony are on the artists side; apparently | Mar 09 12:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] "It makes us money, don. It can make lots of money" - Stratfor CEO on infiltrating Turkey http://t.co/B4IZqUmP #gifiles | Mar 09 12:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @CassPF: Flyer for snap DFAT/Australian embassy protests post #Assange appeal decision, Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane. http://t.co/3Vv9h5HZ | Mar 09 12:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / Cassie Findlay: Flyer for snap DFAT protes ... .::. Size~: 10.22 KB | Mar 09 12:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This one for +Fabian Scherschel - why Canonical/Ubuntu ignores the Raspberry Pi. So full of weirdness IMHO. https://bu... http://b1t.it/a2zQ | Mar 09 12:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Snap DFAT protest for #Assange & #WikiLeaks - alt version of flyer, white background for easy print copying http://t.co/Objsn8Z7 | Mar 09 12:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / Cassie Findlay: Snap DFAT protest for #Ass ... .::. Size~: 10.21 KB | Mar 09 12:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm looking forward to it. | Mar 09 12:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, also: lots of spammers use the feed mirror thing. That's why other folks seem "similar" to the spam filter. | Mar 09 12:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Full interview: WikiLeaks Hrafnsson vs Swedish right wing tabloid @expressen editor @ThomasMattsson https://t.co/LvV1kVb4 | Mar 09 12:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NHS risk register: Ministers lose Freedom of Information appeal http://goo.gl/NihWm | Mar 09 12:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Swedish weapons used against demonstrators in Bahrain | Svergesradio http://t.co/JBQUdNPj #svpol | Mar 09 13:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Time out for Finland in ratifying #ACTA - http://bit.ly/A5WuI8 only sensible at this point (v @RalfGrahn @StopActaNow) | Mar 09 13:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Anger over Sweden's 'secret' Saudi arms plant | Al Jazeera http://t.co/1npFBxRX | Mar 09 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leaked: Police Plan to Raid The Pirate Bay - http://bit.ly/w1Rgoc good luck with that | Mar 09 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Remembering #Colossus, the world’s first programmable electronic computer - http://bit.ly/Am1a3j as we jolly well should #uk | Mar 09 13:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Software livre "domina" computadores em Vieira do Minho http://goo.gl/4kb9T #pt #flossfiles crise serve p ganharem um pouco de juizo | Mar 09 13:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] true | Mar 09 13:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I know, v disappointing - but it's not over yet.. | Mar 09 13:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] New WikiLeaks #Gifiles: Turkey/PKK/Chavez http://t.co/DFS2TaK8 | Mar 09 13:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] done | Mar 09 13:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Research Works Act (RWA): why Scientific Publishing needs FOSS Methods - http://bit.ly/zV7CAi lots of good links on #openaccess et al. | Mar 09 13:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Stratfor: "Truth tellers always get shot. Its much easier to lie or make up stories" http://t.co/KBA3yTBB #WikiLeaks #GIFiles | Mar 09 13:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Global Intelligence Files - Re: Pakistan Journalist Vanishes: Is the ISI Involved? .::. Size~: 21.61 KB | Mar 09 13:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I saw that too. Unsilenced, and I'll take a look. | Mar 09 13:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 12 reasons you know you are a #BigData biologist - http://bit.ly/zqvtOb wise & witty piece about reality of big data in #genomics | Mar 09 13:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ethics.Data.gov - "making it easier for citizens to hold public officials accountable"; interesting move, in theory at least #us | Mar 09 13:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=titaniumgl_linux&num=1 | Mar 09 13:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] TitaniumGL: A Faster Multi-Platform Graphics Driver Architecture? .::. Size~: 20.24 KB | Mar 09 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | a proprietary software OpenGL renderer | Mar 09 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | and the "freeware" version is adware/spyware | Mar 09 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | users are told to overwrite Mesa's libGL.so.1 with it | Mar 09 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | apparently, ever ytime something makes an OpenGL context, the thing tries opening Firefox to sites full of ads | Mar 09 13:48 |
| MinceR | fun | Mar 09 13:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, that's just weird. I'm going to start adding some audit code so we see what's going on here. | Mar 09 13:48 | |
| DaemonFC | it has no actual hardware acceleration support | Mar 09 13:48 |
| DaemonFC | the only use case is for people who were stuck with llvmpipe to begin with | Mar 09 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | and it is a blob that only supports x86-32 | Mar 09 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | it's limited to OpenGL 1.4 | Mar 09 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | which makes it useless for attempting to run the majority of games and even a modern compositing manager | Mar 09 13:50 |
| DaemonFC | apparently the only thing it does better than llvmpipe on the one CPU arch it supports is run ioquake3-based games a little faster, and when you exit, Firefox is there with a page full of ads | Mar 09 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | cool | Mar 09 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | the kinds of system configurations where you're going to get stuck with llvmpipe are typically useless for gaming anyway | Mar 09 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | but what llvmpipe can do fairly well is run mutter or kwin | Mar 09 13:53 |
| schestowitz | morning, DaemonFC | Mar 09 13:53 |
| schestowitz | motormouth starts at 9am? | Mar 09 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | apparently | Mar 09 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | it's sad that he even mentions this thing | Mar 09 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | apparently it has been around for several years and is rightly obscure | Mar 09 13:54 |
| schestowitz | I don't follow OpenGL as much as you do | Mar 09 13:56 |
| schestowitz | is doom 4 really coming? | Mar 09 13:56 |
| schestowitz | !google doom 4 | Mar 09 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Doom 4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_4 | Mar 09 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - id Software | http://www.idsoftware.com/ | Mar 09 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Doom 4 News, Videos, Reviews and Gossip - Kotaku | http://kotaku.com/doom-4/ | Mar 09 13:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Doom 4 - PC - IGN | http://pc.ign.com/objects/142/14252444.html | Mar 09 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL 1.4 support gets you, almost nothing useful | Mar 09 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | on a modern system | Mar 09 13:56 |
| schestowitz | omg sprites !! | Mar 09 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | DirectX games under Wine usually need at least OpenGL 2.1 or better | Mar 09 13:57 |
| schestowitz | "This game has not yet been confirmed for any specific platform -- it may or not be released on this system. Please check back for official information." | Mar 09 13:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] OUTDOOR WILDERNESS #SURVIVAL KIT: A CONTENTS CHECKLIST | Prepared For That http://goo.gl/Zsxb1 #preppers #edc #bushcraft | Mar 09 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN 72 HOUR EMERGENCY #SURVIVAL KIT: A CONTENTS CHECKLIST | Prepared For That http://goo.gl/dNnDx #preppers #bushcraft | Mar 09 13:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] This Tiny Feature Could Keep #Pinterest From Getting Sued For Massive #Copyright Infringement - http://bit.ly/xdRcSq hmm... (v @howardknopf) | Mar 09 13:57 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: This Tiny Feature Could Keep Pinterest From Getting Sued For Massive Copyright Infringement - Business Insider .::. Size~: 37 KB | Mar 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | modern compositing managers need 2.0 or better | Mar 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | most native Linux games need at least 2.1 | Mar 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | a few, like Oil Rush need a minimum of 3.0 | Mar 09 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The GPL'd DOOM 3 source code might be the last thing id software ever does with any relevance for Linux users | Mar 09 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | the company that bought them out is a rabid Microsoft partner that has a fetish for Sony DRM rootkits | Mar 09 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | so, it's only a remote possibility that we'll ever see RAGE or Doom 4 on Linux if it's not running under Wine | Mar 09 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | the good news is that John Carmack made the effort to get Doom 3 source code out there under the GPL despite Bethesda trying to prevent that at first | Mar 09 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | I think in the end it came down to "Look, I wrote the damned thing before you bought us out and I've been promising this for years" | Mar 09 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's possible that id software employees could get fed up and resign and start their own company | Mar 09 14:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Transparency isn't a cost – it's a cost saver by @daeaves | http://red.ht/zonReV #opengov #openinnovation | Mar 09 14:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Transparency isn't a cost – it's a cost saver | opensource.com .::. Size~: 53.16 KB | Mar 09 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | that's happened before when EA gobbled up some smaller game studios and ruined their existing franchises | Mar 09 14:02 |
| MinceR | the last i've heard of carmack doesn't make me expect any opengl work from him, though | Mar 09 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | he's expressed mixed feelings about DirectX and OpenGL | Mar 09 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | but has tended to go with OpenGL | Mar 09 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | his latest stated opinion regarding Direct3d 10/11 is basically "I like the API better but it doesn't work on the platforms I want to support" | Mar 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | which basically means XP is out if you go that direction | Mar 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | as is OS X | Mar 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | as is Linux | Mar 09 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | and probably Vista too (You need a multi-gigabyte platform update to Vista SP2 to get the Direct3d 11 update, and not many people have it, so Vista can be ruled out too) | Mar 09 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | another drag on the acceptance of Direct3d 11.x is that the XBOX 360 is more or less Direct3d 9 with a very small subset of Direct3d 10 features cherry picked for it | Mar 09 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | until Microsoft manages to kill off XP, Vista, and the XBOX 360, Direct3d 9 is the reality of graphics acceleration on Windows, unless you use OpenGL | Mar 09 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | OpenGL 4.2 will work on Windows XP if you display drivers support it | Mar 09 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia and AMD both do | Mar 09 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | and those are the only really important players as far as PC graphics cards with gaming support | Mar 09 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | and before Windows 2000 support was ended, both AMD and Nvidia released OpenGL 4.0 support for that | Mar 09 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | the only sane thing to do if you're making a game for Windows and don't want any compromises and don't want to limit yourself to whoever has Windows 7 is to use OpenGL | Mar 09 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | especially if you ever want to port the thing natively to the Mac or to Linux | Mar 09 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | which most game developers would consider gravy, but it's a deciding factor in some cases | Mar 09 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Carmack basically said that the DirectX situation is fragmented to the point where he can't use it | Mar 09 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | I would have said "total fucking mess" | Mar 09 14:12 |
| schestowitz | carmack gets it hard on activex now | Mar 09 14:12 |
| schestowitz | oiops | Mar 09 14:12 |
| schestowitz | directx | Mar 09 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | but he has to tread lightly or Microsoft will probably do something nasty to him | Mar 09 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft could have handled the DirectX situation a lot better than they did | Mar 09 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | they choked themselves on their own greed when, instead of backporting it as a standalone runtime update to XP and Vista, they decided that it would be an "incentive" in and of itself to get people off of Windows XP | Mar 09 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | and it wasn't | Mar 09 14:13 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Mar 09 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | then they doubled down on their fuck up when they made it mandatory to bring in massive platform updates and service packs to get DirectX 11 on Windows Vista | Mar 09 14:14 |
| schestowitz | I remember that | Mar 09 14:14 |
| schestowitz | Get Vista... why? DirectX... | Mar 09 14:14 |
| schestowitz | And you could just modify text files to override this restriction anyway | Mar 09 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | not entirely | Mar 09 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Remember Games for Windows{r) | Mar 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | but good enough to get some of the "Vista exclusives" to run | Mar 09 14:15 |
| schestowitz | or was there such a program for Vista too, not just around the same time? | Mar 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | some of the "Vista exclusives" didn't use DirectX 10 at all | Mar 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | Halo 2 was DirectX 9.0c | Mar 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | which is avaliable for XP | Mar 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | a simple "unofficial patch" got Halo 2 for "Vista" running better on Windows XP than it did on Vista | Mar 09 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft threw in DirectX 9.0c into Windows Vista and Windows 7, but they renamed it DirectX 9 L (Legacy) | Mar 09 14:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice infogrpahic explaining how #ACTA will move on inside the european system. http://ur1.ca/8lfbf... http://b1t.it/a2CO | Mar 09 14:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | the only thing that made Halo 2 a Vista exclusive was running some bogus functionality tests that were sure to fail without Windows Vista | Mar 09 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | the game itself was perfectly capable of running on XP otherwise | Mar 09 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: With the Windows XP "patch" applied, you can even get Halo 2 running in Linux | Mar 09 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | under Wine | Mar 09 14:18 |
| schestowitz | I seem to recall that from digg.com | Mar 09 14:19 |
| schestowitz | those were the days, mein freund | Mar 09 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | EA did something similar with C&C games like Red Alert 3 | Mar 09 14:19 |
| MinceR | 151142 < DaemonFC> but he has to tread lightly or Microsoft will probably do something nasty to him | Mar 09 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | to make them fail on Windows 2000 | Mar 09 14:19 |
| MinceR | what? how? | Mar 09 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They'll think of something | Mar 09 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:19 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Mar 09 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Pinky and the Bill | Mar 09 14:19 |
| MinceR | oh, i'm guessing they hold him by his suXbox [360] deals... | Mar 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I ran into that issue when I tried playing Red Alert 3 on Windows 2000 | Mar 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up running a slightly modified executable that removed the tests to make sure it was running on XP | Mar 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | and played throughout the entire game with no troubles | Mar 09 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It's simple really | Mar 09 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | if Microsoft wants you to fail, they'll slip something into their platform that causes your software to act up | Mar 09 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | and then all your users will abandon you because your software has bugs :) | Mar 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | like they did to Netscape | Mar 09 14:22 |
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| DaemonFC | and almost did with Windows 3.1 on non Microsoft DOS | Mar 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | or to Wordperfect on Windows 95 for that matter | Mar 09 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | hidden APIs that were there for MS Office to use that weren't made available to competing office software | Mar 09 14:22 |
| MinceR | he was able to act more independently in the past though | Mar 09 14:23 |
| MinceR | so i'm blaming the suXbox | Mar 09 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | they do it over and over again and always get out of their criminal culpability for having done it | Mar 09 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Nice info by +Greg Kroah-Hartman on the 2.6.32 Linux Kernel http://ur1.ca/8lfe9 | Mar 09 14:23 | |
| DaemonFC | it's disgusting that the only thing that really came out of US v. Microsoft is that Microsoft had to document some of their previously hidden API and allow OEMs to hide IE and ship non-IE browsers | Mar 09 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | which only happened once or twice that I'm aware of | Mar 09 14:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Orange Line. Just waiting for the driver to end his conversation. | Mar 09 14:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Associação Europeia de Refrigerantes diz que “corante de caramelo” da Coca-Cola e Pepsi é seguro - PUBLICO.PT http://goo.gl/kfsIE #food | Mar 09 14:25 | |
| DaemonFC | I bought a PC right after that settlement and it came with Netscape 6.2 pre-installed | Mar 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | but what AOL did to the Mozilla Suite was pretty sick | Mar 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | so I ended up deleting it and running Mozilla | Mar 09 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | AOL never really wanted to be in the browser business | Mar 09 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | what they did to Netscape is basically what Attachmate is doing to Novell | Mar 09 14:27 |
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| MinceR | AOL wanted to be... a LUMBERJACK! | Mar 09 14:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Took a bell to make him stop. Ugh. #mbta | Mar 09 14:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | take over the company, suck out all the cash, go around trolling all the open lawsuits the company had to get quick settlements.... | Mar 09 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | and when you've sucked everything you can out of it, shoot it and walk away | Mar 09 14:27 |
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| DaemonFC | doing business as Netscape, AOL "settled" the outstanding lawsuit against Microsoft | Mar 09 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft gave them like $700 million to go away | Mar 09 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | and AOL agreed to not stop using IE in their software | Mar 09 14:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] http://identi.ca/url/67682931 !cc | Mar 09 14:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux gets a bigger shield against patent attacks (InfoWorld) http://ur1.ca/8lfgc | Mar 09 14:30 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that is why open source companies are not that liked. | Mar 09 14:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #mbta elevator service broken at #jacksonsquare -- if you need it, go to the next stop then catch an irregular bus back to your stop | Mar 09 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Further to my earlier !identicurse complaint: !Hotot dunt seem to be able to fetch mentions; so maybe summat's changed, or afoot | Mar 09 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] If you're interested in improving our !dbd campaign, join us in #defectivebydesign on freenode IRC. | Mar 09 14:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Two weeks to LibrePlanet, one week to North East GNU/Linux fest. Should make slides today. | Mar 09 14:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: oh, yeah, they put IE in their coffee mug coaster | Mar 09 14:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] ♻ @rms Urgent: Birth Control http://ur1.ca/8lfce "congresscritter" but yes, do this. | Mar 09 14:38 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I still have one of those classic AOL coasters | Mar 09 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | at one point, they rigged up a "beta" of the AOL client software using the Mozilla Gecko engine instead of IE's | Mar 09 14:39 |
| schestowitz | I never got it. What was tgheir business model? | Mar 09 14:39 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: really it would be interesting to see if IE team is sending the mozilla guys cake every major release still | Mar 09 14:39 |
| schestowitz | I mean, some businesses give out pen | Mar 09 14:39 |
| schestowitz | with logo | Mar 09 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | it was at that point Microsoft offered them the money | Mar 09 14:39 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: because I think the mozilla goes are doing them in. | Mar 09 14:39 |
| schestowitz | AOL just gave up coasters to advertise the brand | Mar 09 14:39 |
| schestowitz | did anyone order a CD based on this coaster advertiisng campaign? | Mar 09 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: an "online service" for retards | Mar 09 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | at first you couldn't even use it to access the internet with | Mar 09 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | and they billed you $25 a month plus $1.50 for every hour you were online | Mar 09 14:40 |
| schestowitz | actually | Mar 09 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:40 |
| schestowitz | it's east to get connected | Mar 09 14:40 |
| schestowitz | with AOL | Mar 09 14:40 |
| schestowitz | It's RESALLY REALL HARD to stop | Mar 09 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, at one point they actually deliberately corrupted Windows's TCP/IP stack | Mar 09 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | so that if you removed AOL, you couldn't connect to any other ISP | Mar 09 14:41 |
| oiaohm | http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/781 Yep opps. | Mar 09 14:41 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: And they used high pressure sales tactics to "retain" customers | Mar 09 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | !google Vincent Ferrari AOL | Mar 09 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Best Thing We Have Ever Posted: Reader Tries To Cancel AOL ... | http://consumerist.com/2006/06/the-best-thing-we-have-ever-posted-reader-tries-to-cancel-aol.html | Mar 09 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Cancel AOL - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxmpDSBAh6RY | Mar 09 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - AOL Said, 'If You Leave Me I'll Do Something Crazy' - New York Times | http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/business/yourmoney/02digi.html%3Fpagewanted%3Dall | Mar 09 14:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - AOL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL | Mar 09 14:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] If you haven't done so yet, sign up to give a lightning talk or a talk about lightning at LibrePlanet 2012. #lp2012 | Mar 09 14:42 | |
| DaemonFC | brb | Mar 09 14:42 |
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| DaemonFC | It's not really hard to cancel Comcast or DirecTV | Mar 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | they probbaqly have a whole telephone calling centre department just optomises to discouagr cancellation | Mar 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | like BT | Mar 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | I remember I was gonna cancel my BT order | Mar 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | after they messed up | Mar 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | and then the guy refuses to | Mar 09 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | they have "retention" departments, but the worst that could happen is they waste 5 minutes of your time trying to throw in some incentives to sweeten the pot and convince you to change your mind | Mar 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | he says I need to phone up cancellation | Mar 09 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | OK, that's understandable | Mar 09 14:47 |
| schestowitz | it worked for them, it discouraged me from cancelling | Mar 09 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's cheaper to knock $10-20 off a person's bill than it is to lose a customer | Mar 09 14:48 |
| schestowitz | they compensated me | Mar 09 14:48 |
| schestowitz | 50 pounds | Mar 09 14:48 |
| schestowitz | about $80 | Mar 09 14:48 |
| schestowitz | I love this one: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/business/yourmoney/02digi.html?pagewanted=all?_r=1 | Mar 09 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | "AOL Said, 'If You Leave Me I'll Do Something Crazy'" | Mar 09 14:49 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Mar 09 14:49 |
| schestowitz | jump off the roof | Mar 09 14:49 |
| schestowitz | show the wifey you surf pr0n? | Mar 09 14:49 |
| schestowitz | "This was the taunting command of an AOL customer service representative who sounded like a jailer twirling his keychain. The customer on the phone wanted to complete his business, but the person on the other end of the phone did not share a sense of urgency." | Mar 09 14:49 |
| schestowitz | http://insignificantthoughts.com/2006/06/13/cancelling-aol "The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server." | Mar 09 14:50 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: They know people are out there that will call and threaten to cancel just to get the bill credits | Mar 09 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | they don't care because most people won't | Mar 09 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | and even if a person does, they're still a very profitable customer | Mar 09 14:51 |
| schestowitz | "Some people who posted comments on the Web about the recording — about 20 percent of them, in Mr. Ferrari's estimation — found it so incredible that they declared it a hoax. But Mr. Graham said the call's authenticity had been internally verified, and he sent Mr. Ferrari a letter of apology. He said John was no longer with the company." | Mar 09 14:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 09 14:52 |
| schestowitz | It's just a "rotten apple" | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I used AOL for a while, you can laugh if you want but I had a bank that would let me make disposable debit cards and cancel them after one purchase if I wanted to | Mar 09 14:52 |
| schestowitz | like Microsoft AstroTurfurfing | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | so I'd sign up for AOL | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | get a free month | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | cancel | Mar 09 14:52 |
| schestowitz | he was "over-enthusiastic" | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | sign up with AOL | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | get a free month | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | cancel | Mar 09 14:52 |
| schestowitz | i.e. a good employee | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | ... | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:52 |
| schestowitz | as long as not exposed by the interwebs | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | eventually they put an end to that | Mar 09 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | but not before I got free internet for over a year | Mar 09 14:53 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: LOL | Mar 09 14:53 |
| schestowitz | good on you.. | Mar 09 14:53 |
| schestowitz | AOL LOL | Mar 09 14:53 |
| schestowitz | serves them right | Mar 09 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | Earthlink was by far the best dial up ISP I ever had | Mar 09 14:53 |
| schestowitz | "With the enthusiastic help of users of Digg, the much-visited site that lets readers rate news stories, the online world found its way to Mr. Ferrari's door. (Actually, too many curiosity seekers arrived that day: the server that hosted his blog crashed hard when about 300,000 visitors tried to push through the door at about the same time.) YouTube did its part in spreading the word, by making available a replay of the AOL call that | Mar 09 14:53 |
| schestowitz | was part of Mr. Ferrari's appearance on the "Today" show on NBC." | Mar 09 14:54 |
| schestowitz | "How should Mr. Finkelstein have responded? By writing a letter of complaint to some distant regulatory authority that will require years before it acts? Far more effective means are now at hand. He recorded, then uploaded the video clip with some humorous asides about missed appointments and unfulfilled promises, and got immediate satisfaction in the act of sharing. More than 500,000 viewers have watched Mr. Finkelstein's video "thank | Mar 09 14:54 |
| schestowitz | you" note to Comcast." | Mar 09 14:54 |
| schestowitz | I wrote to the FTC about MS AstroTurfers | Mar 09 14:54 |
| schestowitz | They said I wasn't enough people for them to move their arse basically | Mar 09 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you need to be a billionaire or hire an army of lobbyists to get a finger lifted | Mar 09 14:55 |
| schestowitz | it's not about the merit of the complaint | Mar 09 14:55 |
| schestowitz | but the deapth of the complainer's pockets | Mar 09 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] freedom-compliant would be by and by-sa (cc0) those with nc and nd would not be. | Mar 09 14:57 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I've heard negative things about the spam filters of earthlink | Mar 09 14:58 |
| schestowitz | bellsouth's too ain't great, gave me hell when I tried to contact a friend in Florida | Mar 09 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | well, Earthlink for some reason always connected me at 53.3 kbps | Mar 09 14:59 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | the others tended to connect at like 44 or 43 or 38 | Mar 09 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | so apparently the connection to that system was a little better | Mar 09 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | ok, dial up is slow, so every little bit helps right? :) | Mar 09 15:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @lwnnet Greg KH: The 2.6.32 Linux kernel http://ur1.ca/8lff6 | Mar 09 15:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: there was a plan that Walmart had that eventually got scuttled that I was rooting for | Mar 09 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | Wimax transponders on each Walmart store in the country | Mar 09 15:01 |
| schestowitz | I'm so dependent on my Internet connection. Without it, I cannot do my job. I have not shaved in a few days http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/5.png | Mar 09 15:01 |
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| DaemonFC | unlimited access at 2 Mbps for $15 a month | Mar 09 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | that's pretty damned cheap | Mar 09 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Me right now: http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2.png | Mar 09 15:01 |
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| DaemonFC | then there was another proposal that never happened (In Indiana anyway thanks to the fucking bureaucrats) | Mar 09 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] HTTPie, an alternative to curl that makes it easier to talk to HTTP services (H): http://bit.ly/wTOKoP | Mar 09 15:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | broadband over power lines | Mar 09 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | 1 Mbps unlimited access, $10 a month | Mar 09 15:02 |
| schestowitz | The debian box http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/11.png | Mar 09 15:02 |
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| DaemonFC | for $10 a month I'd take 1 Mbps | Mar 09 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | for $15 a month I'd take 2 Mbps | Mar 09 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | right now AT&T charges me $45 for 6 Mbps | Mar 09 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | and then caps me at 150 GB a month | Mar 09 15:03 |
| schestowitz | $15 a month !!? | Mar 09 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | which reminds me, this is the last day of my cap for the month | Mar 09 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | better get torrenting | Mar 09 15:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft tech turns any object into a touchscreen (Register): http://bit.ly/xtHLoJ | Mar 09 15:03 | |
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| schestowitz | do you need to pay for phone line rental to get broadband/ADSL/Ethernet? | Mar 09 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | I still have like 30 GB to burn up or lose | Mar 09 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | I own my modem | Mar 09 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | if you 'rent" one, they add $5 a month to your bill | Mar 09 15:04 |
| schestowitz | what does it hook into? | Mar 09 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | if you buy one outright, the modem costs about $40, and has a built in wifi router | Mar 09 15:04 |
| schestowitz | cable? | Mar 09 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | telephone line | Mar 09 15:04 |
| schestowitz | do you pay for it? | Mar 09 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | the line itself? no | Mar 09 15:05 |
| schestowitz | we need to pay here about $15-16 a month for that | Mar 09 15:05 |
| schestowitz | to BT | Mar 09 15:05 |
| schestowitz | directly or indirectly | Mar 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | you pay them like $100 to install the line if you don't have one already | Mar 09 15:05 |
| schestowitz | ripoff, I know... | Mar 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | then you never have to pay them again | Mar 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | and if anything happens to it, they fix it for free | Mar 09 15:05 |
| schestowitz | some people don't use their lines, just the frying of their brains with cellphones | Mar 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: funny story there | Mar 09 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | I downed a fast growing tree last summer because it was threatening to snag my phone line | Mar 09 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | it came down a little differently than I had anticipated | Mar 09 15:06 |
| schestowitz | so BT gets to charge Britain like $300m just for the lines | Mar 09 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | and snagged the line on the way down | Mar 09 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | they came out and fixed it for free | Mar 09 15:06 |
| schestowitz | evcery month! | Mar 09 15:06 |
| schestowitz | they have a monopoly on it, there';s no way around it | Mar 09 15:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @joabj oooh, a BOSD with touch sensitivity :D | Mar 09 15:07 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Good came out of it though | Mar 09 15:07 |
| schestowitz | for wired connections, not just phoneline./landline | Mar 09 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | I threw the remains of that tree in the garage | Mar 09 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | let it dry out real good | Mar 09 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | and used it as firewood | Mar 09 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:07 |
| schestowitz | the good thing is, the lines here are deceng | Mar 09 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | for a bonfire that is | Mar 09 15:07 |
| schestowitz | faster than in the US, AFAIK | Mar 09 15:07 |
| schestowitz | privatised | Mar 09 15:07 |
| schestowitz | unless you're in the countryside | Mar 09 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | the tree tries to grow back constantly | Mar 09 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | so each year I cut it down and get more firewood | Mar 09 15:08 |
| schestowitz | with plans for ffibre, noit just copper | Mar 09 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'll be damned if I know what kind of tree it is, but it does burn well | Mar 09 15:08 |
| schestowitz | good for winter | Mar 09 15:09 |
| schestowitz | provided you have the facilities at homel | Mar 09 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I'd kill to have a cabin out in the woods with a wood burning fireplace | Mar 09 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | and plenty of trees to cut down for firewood | Mar 09 15:09 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Mar 09 15:09 |
| schestowitz | not so sustainable | Mar 09 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | hell, it's free, can't beat free | Mar 09 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | don't have some utility company sending you bills | Mar 09 15:10 |
| schestowitz | hey, take Dawn with you, she can cut down some trees with a razor | Mar 09 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | and government taxes on top of the bills to heat your home | Mar 09 15:10 |
| schestowitz | trees? PRIVATE PROPERTY!! | Mar 09 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm reasonable with my heating and cooling | Mar 09 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Like you | Mar 09 15:10 |
| schestowitz | owned by the US | Mar 09 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | I keep it to 60 degrees in the winter | Mar 09 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | and I keep the air conditioner at 74 in the summer | Mar 09 15:11 |
| schestowitz | I sometimes keep it at 30 | Mar 09 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | it cuts the utility bills by, a lot | Mar 09 15:11 |
| schestowitz | heating up my house for one person is expensive | Mar 09 15:11 |
| schestowitz | I do when it goes under 0 | Mar 09 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | keeping the A/C on 74 instead of 70 got my electricity bill down about $15 a month | Mar 09 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | so I've been doing it every summer | Mar 09 15:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New iPad: Why Apple’s tablet competitors don’t stand a chance—and maybe never will (Slate): http://slate.me/AqKfH1 via @techmeme | Mar 09 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook Co-Founder Chris Hughes Is Buying 'The New Republic' (NPR): http://n.pr/xh3qTz via @techmeme | Mar 09 15:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Judge to Apple: Leave Kodak Alone http://ping.fm/GBWC1 | Mar 09 15:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New iPad: How Apple's tablet strategy parallels its unbeatable iPod success. - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 99.23 KB | Mar 09 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Facebook Co-Founder Chris Hughes Is Buying 'The New Republic' : The Two-Way : NPR .::. Size~: 63.17 KB | Mar 09 15:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DailyTech - Judge to Apple: Leave Kodak Alone .::. Size~: 49.95 KB | Mar 09 15:12 |
| schestowitz | you're very meticulous | Mar 09 15:12 |
| schestowitz | naming the savings down to the single digit | Mar 09 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | it takes a staggering amount of energy just to get the temperature down that last 4 degrees | Mar 09 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:12 |
| DaemonFC | and the difference is barely noticeable | Mar 09 15:12 |
| schestowitz | and sticking to very absurb numbers like "74" | Mar 09 15:12 |
| schestowitz | *absurd | Mar 09 15:12 |
| schestowitz | you got it all down to a science | Mar 09 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: If it gets much above 80, I'm not much fun to be around | Mar 09 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | 74 is very comfortable | Mar 09 15:13 |
| MinceR | http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/06/10585353-govt-agencies-colleges-demand-applicants-facebook-passwords | Mar 09 15:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Tape - Govt. agencies, colleges demand applicants' Facebook passwords .::. Size~: 74.04 KB | Mar 09 15:13 |
| schestowitz | If more people were dumb enough like those who follow Robertson (cough cought grandma), you're be able to make a book out ot it | Mar 09 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | my grandmother finally relented | Mar 09 15:14 |
| MinceR | (m$nbc warning) | Mar 09 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | my aunt lives there with her and was paying the bills | Mar 09 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | she said if my grandmother wanted to keep the heat in the 80s and the front door open, then she could take over the bill herself | Mar 09 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | so now the door stays shut and the heat is at 74 | Mar 09 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | which my grandmother thinks is "freezing" | Mar 09 15:15 |
| schestowitz | "By Bob Sullivan" | Mar 09 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | so she layers her clothing | Mar 09 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Who writes for MSNBC | Mar 09 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | when the termperature is actually quite comfortable | Mar 09 15:15 |
| schestowitz | working for MS | Mar 09 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Which is an investor in FB | Mar 09 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Partly an owner | Mar 09 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Don't f* with Zuck | Mar 09 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm making another Santa Fe Chicken in my slow cooker | Mar 09 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that I had to buy enough chicken to make it twice so I got enough of everything else while I was there to make it twice | Mar 09 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Santa Fe chicken? | Mar 09 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Mar 09 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Is that how you cook it or where it's grown? :> | Mar 09 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | it's a chicken recipe | Mar 09 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | real easy | Mar 09 15:17 |
| schestowitz | How about Santa chilcken? Mother "Who wants the HEAD?" | Mar 09 15:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Judge Orders the Court's Expert to Wait to Finish his Report in Oracle v. Google - Oracle Must be Nervous ~pj http://ping.fm/Nqo6o | Mar 09 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Apple, Foursquare's switch to OpenStreetMaps may have been spurred by the presence of Google ads (Digital Trends): http://bit.ly/xTh7qH | Mar 09 15:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | two cans of corn, a can of black beans, a block of cream cheese, 3-4 boneless skinless chicken breasts, a cup of salsa, and some shredded cheddar cheese | Mar 09 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's good too :) | Mar 09 15:17 |
| schestowitz | sounds like it | Mar 09 15:18 |
| schestowitz | better than KFC | Mar 09 15:18 |
| schestowitz | aka deep-fried diarrhoea | Mar 09 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | KFC used to be a lot better than it is now | Mar 09 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | we're talking 10-20 years ago | Mar 09 15:18 |
| schestowitz | at KFC, if you're luck, you get the HEAD | Mar 09 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's gotten a little worse every year | Mar 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | they cheap out on the ingredients now | Mar 09 15:19 |
| schestowitz | they cheapen ingredients I bet | Mar 09 15:19 |
| schestowitz | and underpay workers | Mar 09 15:19 |
| schestowitz | so no wonder nobody cares about quality | Mar 09 15:19 |
| schestowitz | I like dining in family businesses | Mar 09 15:19 |
| schestowitz | they care very much about how good it tastes | Mar 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Actually, Chesters fried chicken is a LOT better than KFC | Mar 09 15:19 |
| schestowitz | they ant returning customers | Mar 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | cheaper and better for that matter | Mar 09 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | and fresh | Mar 09 15:20 |
| schestowitz | at fast food chains it's just some teens for the most part, trying to scrape a buck by not getting fired | Mar 09 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | it's a franchise though so I can only speak of the local one | Mar 09 15:20 |
| schestowitz | and they leave very fast, quick workcycle, no skills developed | Mar 09 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | call them up, place your order | Mar 09 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | they cook to order | Mar 09 15:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Stephen Wolfram's personal analytics (Wolfram Blog): http://bit.ly/wNU1TR (via @techmeme) | Mar 09 15:20 | |
| schestowitz | you're more likely to find chewing un in your burdger than a finaly made burger | Mar 09 15:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | connect() timed out! ( http://bit.ly/wNU1TR ) | Mar 09 15:20 |
| schestowitz | it's custom made to be easy to make | Mar 09 15:20 |
| schestowitz | to lower staff training duration | Mar 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | KFC is OK if you want something dry and shriveled that's been under a heat lamp for hours | Mar 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:21 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Mar 09 15:21 |
| schestowitz | so true | Mar 09 15:21 |
| schestowitz | same in Burger King | Mar 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | Chester's is delicious | Mar 09 15:21 |
| schestowitz | "Sure, it's cold, but look, it's in the light" | Mar 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | very juicy | Mar 09 15:21 |
| schestowitz | they have a steamer too | Mar 09 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | never gotten any from them that was dried out like it is at KFC | Mar 09 15:21 |
| schestowitz | in BVurger King kitchens | Mar 09 15:21 |
| schestowitz | to try and preserve a few for a while longer | Mar 09 15:22 |
| schestowitz | why on earth put buns through a broiler | Mar 09 15:22 |
| schestowitz | to toast them | Mar 09 15:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft open sources Windows scripting tool Mayhem - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/AdEjTW | Mar 09 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ants can count their steps apparently http://is.gd/eCPwHg | Mar 09 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Fascinating to hear tales of digital empowerment & econ benefits in Romania: http://t.co http://p.ost.im/p/eCra3q | Mar 09 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @ECspokesRyan: A short video from CNN of @NeelieKroesEU on @RichardQuest programme. Wanted: Women in tec http://p.ost.im/p/eCYjAA | Mar 09 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: I'd #ff you @LadyGaga but you don't need it! Congrats for 20m followers. #digitalheroine http://p.ost.im/p/eCuf7Y | Mar 09 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Last week I met Paul-Andre Baran, new Romanian #digitalchampion. Video: http://t.co/HGVs http://p.ost.im/p/eCSvCK | Mar 09 15:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: €19.3bn in lost productivity from lack of digital ICT skills in Netherlands! http://t. http://p.ost.im/p/eCHDyh | Mar 09 15:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #ff @paulandrebaran, officially Romania's "digital champion" http://t.co/rnBvLZ9p http://p.ost.im/p/eCuyYt | Mar 09 15:22 | |
| schestowitz | and then put it in a steamer | Mar 09 15:22 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, Burger King is OK in a pinch | Mar 09 15:22 |
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| schestowitz | it's steaming BS | Mar 09 15:22 |
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| DaemonFC | McDonalds is so much more disgusting than Burger King has ever thought about being | Mar 09 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | I won't eat at McDonalds even if I'm hungry and there's nothing else for miles | Mar 09 15:22 |
| schestowitz | I wotrked at Burger King for almost a year | Mar 09 15:22 |
| schestowitz | When I was 16 or 17 | Mar 09 15:22 |
| schestowitz | I know all their flaws | Mar 09 15:22 |
| schestowitz | all the bak-end stuff | Mar 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | like I said, in a pinch | Mar 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | I eat fast food maybe once a month | Mar 09 15:23 |
| schestowitz | but I'd always bvring my records in and play them | Mar 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | if that | Mar 09 15:23 |
| schestowitz | for all the customers | Mar 09 15:23 |
| schestowitz | let me tell you, they got jiggy with it ;-) | Mar 09 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: That average may go up after I move to Fort Wayne next year | Mar 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | they have Sonic there | Mar 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | I love Sonic | Mar 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 09 15:24 |
| schestowitz | Sonic? | Mar 09 15:24 |
| schestowitz | it;s still around? | Mar 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | drive in | Mar 09 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | you don't see a lot of those anymore | Mar 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | everyone is in such a damned hurry | Mar 09 15:25 |
| schestowitz | What a lame site they have now http://www.sonicdrivein.com/home.jsp;jsessionid=2F3ECC62C2240CDD97A2570920736AD5.sonic-prod | Mar 09 15:25 |
| schestowitz | it makes noises | Mar 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | get your science experiment from McDisgusting and move move move! | Mar 09 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 15:25 |
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| schestowitz | looks like something gone awry | Mar 09 15:25 |
| schestowitz | and it keeps playing those annoying sounds in a loop | Mar 09 15:25 |
| schestowitz | make you wanna die or close the tab\ | Mar 09 15:26 |
| schestowitz | I went to McDisgusting drive in 2 weeks ago | Mar 09 15:26 |
| schestowitz | then to the off licence for 8 pints of beer Carlsberg | Mar 09 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.sonicdrivein.com/menu/viewRecipe.do?recipeId=505743050§ionId=798988 | Mar 09 15:26 |
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| schestowitz | "Can you pass me the dead rat menu?" | Mar 09 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Thanks - I'll wait patiently. Interestingly the problem doesn't affect Qwit | Mar 09 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Newspapers Are The Fastest Shrinking Industry In The U.S. (Business Insider): http://read.bi/wmRtrl | Mar 09 15:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, the standards for what they can actually pass off as food seem to be tighter where you are | Mar 09 15:27 |
| MinceR | i don't get you | Mar 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | here they can put in "boneless lean beef trimmings" | Mar 09 15:27 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: it doesn't look liike it when they serve it | Mar 09 15:27 |
| MinceR | "i'm positively disgusted by fast food but i eat it regularly anyway!" | Mar 09 15:27 |
| schestowitz | they shove it | Mar 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | which is also known as dog food | Mar 09 15:27 |
| schestowitz | they don't 'dress up' sandwiches | Mar 09 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | you order a burger from McDonalds, they literally put dog food in it | Mar 09 15:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Ryan is a schizo | Mar 09 15:28 |
| MinceR | and you? :> | Mar 09 15:28 |
| schestowitz | nope | Mar 09 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pedantic | Mar 09 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:28 |
| schestowitz | I don't eat fast food | Mar 09 15:28 |
| schestowitz | only :"socially" | Mar 09 15:28 |
| MinceR | social eating is not eating, then? :> | Mar 09 15:28 |
| schestowitz | i's when you do something you'd normally not bother with | Mar 09 15:29 |
| schestowitz | it can also be getting very drunk | Mar 09 15:29 |
| schestowitz | no point getting drunk on one's own | Mar 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | that's like people who only smoke when they drink | Mar 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:29 |
| MinceR | no point getting drunk at all, imo | Mar 09 15:29 |
| schestowitz | unless you;re homeless or a very miserable young/old man | Mar 09 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | I smoke pipe tobacco infrequently | Mar 09 15:30 |
| schestowitz | I also play squash socially | Mar 09 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | it is not the same as a cigarette | Mar 09 15:30 |
| schestowitz | I don't like the sport | Mar 09 15:30 |
| schestowitz | but with a friend I'd be willing to do a bit | Mar 09 15:30 |
| schestowitz | many things that people do they do due to social pressure | Mar 09 15:30 |
| schestowitz | and they may not even recognise it | Mar 09 15:30 |
| schestowitz | "Roy, why are you ont he computer all morning Friday?" | Mar 09 15:30 |
| schestowitz | Because I like it, now f* off | Mar 09 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: a burger, fries, and 32 ounce soda at McDonalds tends to come up to $6-7 | Mar 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | you can make better stuff at home and not exceed $2 | Mar 09 15:31 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 09 15:31 |
| schestowitz | or 3 pounds aday | Mar 09 15:31 |
| schestowitz | for good meals | Mar 09 15:31 |
| schestowitz | even vitamin supplements | Mar 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | fast food isn't just disgusting, it burns a hole in your wallet | Mar 09 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | especially when you go there a lot | Mar 09 15:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: check out vitamin supplements at Aldi | Mar 09 15:31 |
| schestowitz | I only started taking them for the first time ever 2 weeks ago | Mar 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | Chester's also has fried fish every Friday | Mar 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes I get a three piece with mashed potatoes and gravy and green beans | Mar 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | they're pretty reasonable though | Mar 09 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | that comes up to like $4, with a drink | Mar 09 15:32 |
| MinceR | some people just don't understand what a computer is used for | Mar 09 15:33 |
| MinceR | their concept is "being on the computer" | Mar 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: porn | Mar 09 15:33 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: exactly | Mar 09 15:33 |
| schestowitz | they see it as an object made of metal | Mar 09 15:33 |
| schestowitz | not a tool | Mar 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | I hope that congressman that got "The Internet Is For Porn" read into the congressional record during the SOPA debate is re-elected for life | Mar 09 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | we need more people like that in Congress | Mar 09 15:33 |
| schestowitz | or a tunnel for conversation, collaboration,research, coding, gaming, design.. | Mar 09 15:34 |
| schestowitz | And I'll tell you why: | Mar 09 15:34 |
| schestowitz | those who say this, well.. they natually assume that others use the computer the same way they do. Open iTunes, minimise, open Hotmail, read some mass-mailed "joke", open 'the news' (celeb gossip), shut down | Mar 09 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | you don't have to be rich to live well, you just have to have a good bullshit filter | Mar 09 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | start kicking some of that marketing nonsense back at them | Mar 09 15:35 |
| MinceR | some of them don't use computers at all | Mar 09 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | they deserve to be mocked | Mar 09 15:35 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 09 15:35 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: and that's for those who have Internet connection, to some a computer is just this dumb terminal they have at work to type customer details into | Mar 09 15:35 |
| schestowitz | [15:33] <DaemonFC> I hope that congressman that got "The Internet Is For Porn" read into the congressional record during the SOPA debate is re-elected for life | Mar 09 15:36 |
| schestowitz | Got a video of that? | Mar 09 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm | Mar 09 15:36 |
| schestowitz | !google youtube the internet for porn | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Internet is for PORN!! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeWEjvCRPrCo | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Internet is for porn avenue Q original - Video - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DT-TA57L0kuc | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Internet is for Porn - Sesame Street Style! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DcNARJPNz2CA | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Internet Is For Porn - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNiFD6EFVsTg | Mar 09 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | !google internet is for porn SOPA | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 'Internet is for Porn' pops up during House SOPA debate | Privacy ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57344507-281/internet-is-for-porn-pops-up-during-house-sopa-debate/ | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - "The Internet is For Porn" entered into official SOPA debate record ... | http://boingboing.net/2011/12/16/the-internet-is-for-porn-e.html | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Jared Polis Criticizes 'Stop Online Piracy Act,' Notes SOPA ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/19/jared-polis-the-internet-is-for-porn_n_1158193.html | Mar 09 15:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Jared Polis - The Internet is for Porn - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DowyNvlVJ1qE | Mar 09 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | and Chris Dodd deserves to be shot | Mar 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | after having a fair trial | Mar 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | after the fair trial we shoot him | Mar 09 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | because if the trial ends without him being sentenced to be shot it was not a fair trial | Mar 09 15:38 |
| MinceR | but if it was not a fair trial then you don't shoot him after a fair trial :> | Mar 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | if it's not a fair trial we shoot him, the jurors, and the judge | Mar 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | it's just a matter of how much we win | Mar 09 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 15:38 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 09 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | if there's a judge and jury out there that would let him go, we need rid of them too | Mar 09 15:39 |
| schestowitz | fallen lawyers | Mar 09 15:39 |
| schestowitz | =judges | Mar 09 15:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !EFF Urges Supreme Court to Take Stand on Abstract Patents http://ping.fm/GdNfm | Mar 09 15:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69221-TitaniumGL-A-Faster-Multi-Platform-Graphics-Driver-Architecture&p=253430#post253430 | Mar 09 15:44 |
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| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 15:44 |
| MinceR | article title ends in question mark => my guess is the answer is no :> | Mar 09 15:44 |
| schestowitz | Fearonix strikes again? | Mar 09 15:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what makes a "Senior Member"? | Mar 09 15:50 |
| schestowitz | I've been sub'd on the frums for like 5 years now | Mar 09 15:50 |
| MinceR | could be a simple post count | Mar 09 15:51 |
| MinceR | forum sw tend to support titles based on post count | Mar 09 15:51 |
| schestowitz | not acct. age? | Mar 09 15:51 |
| MinceR | could be either way | Mar 09 15:51 |
| *jono (~jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #techrights | Mar 09 15:51 | |
| *sebsebseb (~3seb@unaffiliated/sebsebseb) has joined #techrights | Mar 09 15:51 | |
| sebsebseb | Mar 09 15:51 | |
| MinceR | o/ | Mar 09 15:51 |
| schestowitz | it's a forum s/w (vbulletin) that keeps spamming me every time it's my bday | Mar 09 15:52 |
| schestowitz | like I'm supposed to feel privileged and congratulated by some bot-greet | Mar 09 15:52 |
| schestowitz | "Oh, vbulletin installation #235211433, you remembered!! You thought about me !!!" | Mar 09 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, post count | Mar 09 15:53 |
| schestowitz | jono: happy birthday mate | Mar 09 15:53 |
| jono | schestowitz not my birthday, pal :-) | Mar 09 15:54 |
| schestowitz | this was most likely, but have a happy one next time it's your birthday :-) | Mar 09 15:54 |
| MinceR | "i'm not your pal, friend" | Mar 09 15:54 |
| jono | thanks schestowitz! and you :-) | Mar 09 15:54 |
| jono | MinceR, good job I wasn't talking to you | Mar 09 15:54 |
| jono | :-) | Mar 09 15:55 |
| schestowitz | he's got banter | Mar 09 15:55 |
| schestowitz | jono: Randall is very active in disapora | Mar 09 15:55 |
| jono | who? | Mar 09 15:55 |
| schestowitz | would you consnder joining the site? the foss community is good there. | Mar 09 15:55 |
| schestowitz | Ross from Canonical | Mar 09 15:55 |
| jono | schestowitz I am already a member there | Mar 09 15:55 |
| jono | Randall Ross doesnt work for Canonical | Mar 09 15:55 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... /me checks | Mar 09 15:56 |
| schestowitz | oh, I thought he did | Mar 09 15:56 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/u/jonobacon | Mar 09 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe you can post copies to this site, it's empty as of now | Mar 09 15:56 |
| schestowitz | you can post there and to twitter too | Mar 09 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting */*; charset=utf-8 type | Mar 09 15:57 |
| jono | yeah I havent used it much | Mar 09 15:57 |
| jono | but I suspect it is going to turn into another identica | Mar 09 15:57 |
| jono | and frankly, I dont post there much | Mar 09 15:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/tags/ubuntu | Mar 09 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: #ubuntu .::. Size~: 17.76 KB | Mar 09 15:58 |
| jono | the attitude on identica stinks a lot of the time | Mar 09 15:58 |
| schestowitz | jono: yes, might become another identica | Mar 09 15:58 |
| schestowitz | already getting a bit quiet, but not too quiet | Mar 09 15:58 |
| jono | happy to try posting though | Mar 09 15:58 |
| schestowitz | cool | Mar 09 15:58 |
| XFaCE | jono: post some old Carl Sagan vids | Mar 09 15:58 |
| XFaCE | That gets people amazed | Mar 09 15:58 |
| jono | lol | Mar 09 15:58 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Mar 09 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Sagan rocks | Mar 09 15:58 |
| XFaCE | It's knowledge porn | Mar 09 15:58 |
| XFaCE | I think I've found the antedote for stupid news about MAFIAA and MS and the US govt and the like | Mar 09 16:00 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: BTW, Roy, with C11 possibly becoming like SOPA, should we do a "speak-out" article about the danger to Free Software | Mar 09 16:01 |
| XFaCE | I'm studying right now so I can't do an article completely myself :( | Mar 09 16:01 |
| schestowitz | excellent, that would be good cause I don't know enough about it | Mar 09 16:02 |
| *jono has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Mar 09 16:02 | |
| schestowitz | last time you prepared an article the perfectionist in you impeded the publishing | Mar 09 16:02 |
| schestowitz | jono found an escape window | Mar 09 16:03 |
| MinceR | i think he just closed the window | Mar 09 16:03 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Mar 09 16:03 |
| schestowitz | "store SHUT! You done GOOFED!" | Mar 09 16:03 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 09 16:03 |
| MinceR | consequences will never be the same | Mar 09 16:03 |
| schestowitz | were they ever? | Mar 09 16:04 |
| XFaCE | Shit just got serious | Mar 09 16:04 |
| schestowitz | Serious is shit | Mar 09 16:04 |
| MinceR | shit is serious business | Mar 09 16:04 |
| schestowitz | it used to be | Mar 09 16:05 |
| schestowitz | http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-s-word.htm | Mar 09 16:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Origin of the S-Word: 'Ship High in Transit' - Urban Legends .::. Size~: 20.1 KB | Mar 09 16:05 |
| XFaCE | Panda Antivirus, down | Mar 09 16:05 |
| XFaCE | The Vatican, down | Mar 09 16:05 |
| *jono (~jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #techrights | Mar 09 16:05 | |
| XFaCE | OMG WOULD LOOK AT XUBUNTU 12.04 MUCH BETTER THAN THAT CRAPPY OLD UBUNTU LAWL LAWL LAWL | Mar 09 16:06 |
| *XFaCE waits. | Mar 09 16:06 | |
| schestowitz | "For most of its history "shit" was spelled "shite" (and sometimes still is), but the modern, four-letter spelling of the word can be found in texts dating as far back as the mid-1700s. It most certainly did not originate as an acronym used by 19th-century sailors." | Mar 09 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu 12.04 is really solid | Mar 09 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | especially after the KDE 4.8.1 landing | Mar 09 16:06 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: fanboy | Mar 09 16:07 |
| XFaCE | lol | Mar 09 16:07 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The original of the word piracy in the copyright sense is rather sad | Mar 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | brb, I'm going to test what happens when I force direct rendering on in kwin | Mar 09 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | it still blacklists fglrx, but I test each release of FGLRX anyway | Mar 09 16:07 |
| *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Mar 09 16:07 | |
| XFaCE | or, as those lawyers who demand absolute precision in the terms and language they use, "Intellectual Property rights" | Mar 09 16:08 |
| XFaCE | I just can't believe that cognitive disconnect | Mar 09 16:08 |
| MinceR | XFaCE: lol | Mar 09 16:08 |
| MinceR | (re the all caps line) | Mar 09 16:08 |
| XFaCE | In a world where agreements are often written in French because of that language's precision and accuracy in words, they'll make up stupidity like that. | Mar 09 16:09 |
| MinceR | i've never heard of this about the french language | Mar 09 16:09 |
| XFaCE | Tl'dr: Lawyers are not scientists | Mar 09 16:09 |
| schestowitz | I heard something of that sort, not about French | Mar 09 16:09 |
| schestowitz | German is expressive | Mar 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | Canadian is well, let's not go there... | Mar 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | aboot | Mar 09 16:10 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: In my law class, we learned how in French, it's much harder to just "make up words" than it is in English | Mar 09 16:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Court Confirms That Police Don't Need A Warrant To Do A Limited Search A Mobile Phone http://goo.gl/HTaY7 | Mar 09 16:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Court Confirms That Police Don't Need A Warrant To Do A Limited Search A Mobile Phone | Techdirt .::. Size~: 43.98 KB | Mar 09 16:10 |
| XFaCE | And why literal translations from English to France often cannot make sense | Mar 09 16:10 |
| schestowitz | pardon ma french/! | Mar 09 16:10 |
| XFaCE | The French language requires a more precise description of things | Mar 09 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | how you say...? | Mar 09 16:11 |
| schestowitz | they have too many words? | Mar 09 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | still not fixed | Mar 09 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | they say a fix for that is coming | Mar 09 16:11 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: No, it's just harder to use words in new ways arbitrarily | Mar 09 16:13 |
| XFaCE | I had a good example but can't think of it now | Mar 09 16:13 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: so back to the article | Mar 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz | which one? | Mar 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | oh | Mar 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | I know | Mar 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | SOPALOL | Mar 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: what does Felta Farmer say about SOPA? | Mar 09 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | that Chris Dodd should "be sharing a prison cell with Charles Manson" | Mar 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | That's not fair | Mar 09 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | to Manson? | Mar 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | not far to Manson to begin with | Mar 09 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I agree | Mar 09 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Dodd was ****ting in millions of people | Mar 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | hundreds of millions | Mar 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | for personal gain, too | Mar 09 16:16 |
| schestowitz | Abramoff is out of jail | Mar 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Getting famous again, too | Mar 09 16:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Loosening The #Privacy Reins Isn't So Bad, But Where's The Payoff? http://goo.gl/SvB9A | Mar 09 16:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Loosening The Privacy Reins Isn't So Bad, But Where's The Payoff? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 70.2 KB | Mar 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | and Larry Lessig helps him | Mar 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | for personal gain | Mar 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | the jail system doesn't work, unless we assume its puspose is to help rich people lock up the poor who step out of line | Mar 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | rather than to defend the public | Mar 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | From the Big Sociopath | Mar 09 16:17 |
| schestowitz | Those who are massive danger to society if left outside bars | Mar 09 16:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Publisher Says Kindle, Nook Users Must Accept AT&T-style Arbitration http://goo.gl/MahgW | Mar 09 16:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Publisher Says Kindle, Nook Users Must Accept AT&T-style Arbitration | paidContent .::. Size~: 44.41 KB | Mar 09 16:18 |
| schestowitz | I say, put Dodd in a case with chimpanzees | Mar 09 16:19 |
| schestowitz | he'll get enough punishment+ just no longer feeling like alphamale | Mar 09 16:19 |
| schestowitz | and.... he might get raped... and NOT enjoy it | Mar 09 16:20 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: c11 | Mar 09 16:20 |
| XFaCE | hmm | Mar 09 16:21 |
| XFaCE | what's a play on that? | Mar 09 16:21 |
| schestowitz | I haven't read up on it yet | Mar 09 16:21 |
| XFaCE | Doesn't present itself like, Windows vNext | Mar 09 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Is Dodd involved? | Mar 09 16:21 |
| XFaCE | Probably through association | Mar 09 16:21 |
| schestowitz | Windows vNext is the nest Best Thing after Windows{tm} | Mar 09 16:21 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: "Here's our latest version of windows" *looks it over* "VISTA??!! NEXT!!" | Mar 09 16:22 |
| schestowitz | sounds like Windows Soup Nazi Edition | Mar 09 16:22 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Windows 8 is kinda like Vista | Mar 09 16:22 |
| schestowitz | It is | Mar 09 16:23 |
| XFaCE | That was the setup for the joke | Mar 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | just another facelift | Mar 09 16:23 |
| XFaCE | vNext is actually an official name | Mar 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | var vNext=vNext+1; | Mar 09 16:23 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC proposed "Vista? Next!" | Mar 09 16:23 |
| schestowitz | Vista is what it takes the loss of to appreciate that version of Windows | Mar 09 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder how they'll retroactively cripple Windows for people who don't want Windows 8 | Mar 09 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | they always manage to | Mar 09 16:24 |
| schestowitz | no wallpaper changes allowed | Mar 09 16:24 |
| XFaCE | Can only move the mouse in horizontal and vertical directions | Mar 09 16:25 |
| schestowitz | as always | Mar 09 16:25 |
| XFaCE | Bring back forced Window tiling ala Windows 1.0 | Mar 09 16:25 |
| XFaCE | (though some may appreciate that. Awesome!" | Mar 09 16:25 |
| MinceR | 172306 < schestowitz> var vNext=vNext+1; | Mar 09 16:26 |
| MinceR | 150 LET VNEXT = VNEXT + 1 | Mar 09 16:26 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: And let's not forget how MS calculate version numbers | Mar 09 16:26 |
| XFaCE | Windows 6 +.1 = 7 | Mar 09 16:26 |
| MinceR | strings /dev/urandom ? | Mar 09 16:26 |
| XFaCE | Windows 6 + .2 = 8 | Mar 09 16:26 |
| XFaCE | no wonder the OS is so bloated if that's how they do math :) | Mar 09 16:27 |
| XFaCE | Our OS is 2 GB in size plus 500 MB of bonus features, therefore the total os is 502 gb | Mar 09 16:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it part of the terms of employment as a Priest to sexually abuse people? http://goo.gl/SzPOh or just badly worded as to imply it | Mar 09 16:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wirbel um EU-Richtlinie zu verwaisten Werken - http://bit.ly/xOk633 good to see more people asking questions about this #orphanworks | Mar 09 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] What was your favorite new post from opensource.com this week? | Mar 09 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Former State Department spokesman cites WikiLeaks cables as justification for CIA assassination of Al-Awlaki | AJE http://t.co/Osq2zV8b | Mar 09 16:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Uniforms and WikiLeaks in the Discussion of the Anwar al-Awlaki Killing | emptywheel .::. Size~: 32.2 KB | Mar 09 16:32 |
| Formic_ | Xface | Mar 09 16:32 |
| Formic_ | [11:27] <XFaCE> Our OS is 2 GB in size plus 500 MB of bonus features, therefore the total os is 502 gb | Mar 09 16:32 |
| Formic_ | that's silly | Mar 09 16:32 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: no more silly than: | Mar 09 16:34 |
| XFaCE | [11:24] <XFaCE> Windows 6 +.1 = 7 | Mar 09 16:34 |
| XFaCE | [11:24] <XFaCE> Windows 6 + .2 = 8 | Mar 09 16:34 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: [/joke] | Mar 09 16:34 |
| Formic_ | check their release history | Mar 09 16:34 |
| Formic_ | not kernel version | Mar 09 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 95 reported that it was Windows 4.0 | Mar 09 16:35 |
| Formic_ | theres a lot of valid and legit things to rip them for | Mar 09 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | but not to be confused with Windows NT 4 | Mar 09 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 16:35 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: it was Windows 4.0, with a fancy name | Mar 09 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | Windows 98 was Windows 4.1.1998 | Mar 09 16:35 |
| Formic_ | calling them names, making fun of their product names, etc sillyness | Mar 09 16:35 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Windows 98SE was 4.1.2222 | Mar 09 16:36 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: We havin' fun, K? | Mar 09 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | Windows Me was Windows 4.9 | Mar 09 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | there's just no telling how they even come up with the internal release numbering | Mar 09 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | at least you know the marketing is just total made up nonsense | Mar 09 16:37 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: One thing I've learned is that Microsoft versioning in any case is misleading and ultimately meaningless | Mar 09 16:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Rechteindustrie traurig: Grundrechtsabbau ist nicht populär - http://bit.ly/x6gPj4 hilarious; these people really are utterly clueless | Mar 09 16:37 | |
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| XFaCE | The difference between XP and 2000 version wise is nothing to justify it as some revolutionary new release | Mar 09 16:37 |
| Formic_ | its just a bunch of marketing bullshit | Mar 09 16:37 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: correct | Mar 09 16:37 |
| Formic_ | xface, and 2000 vs XP is a different enough beast | Mar 09 16:38 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: Not as much as you think | Mar 09 16:38 |
| Formic_ | 2000 doesnt even support high colour system icons | Mar 09 16:38 |
| Formic_ | nor usb 2 support | Mar 09 16:38 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: Yeah it does, what? | Mar 09 16:38 |
| Formic_ | no it doesnt | Mar 09 16:38 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: Drivers, and third party addons, done | Mar 09 16:38 |
| Formic_ | replacing explorer.exe maybe | Mar 09 16:39 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: Nope, just a 3rd party application | Mar 09 16:39 |
| Formic_ | there are no usb2 drivers for windows 2000 | Mar 09 16:39 |
| Formic_ | your full of shit | Mar 09 16:39 |
| Formic_ | evidence | Mar 09 16:39 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: There are. There are even usb 2.0 drivers for Windows 98 | Mar 09 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | XP was more compatible with software for Windows 9x, because they disabled some of NT's security mechanisms to get that | Mar 09 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | it had those obscenely bloated themes | Mar 09 16:39 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/819332 | Mar 09 16:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Updated USB 2.0 Drivers Are Available in Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 (SP4) .::. Size~: 115.07 KB | Mar 09 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | and you had to crack the theming library to customize them | Mar 09 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently ReactOS now supports Windows XP themes | Mar 09 16:40 |
| Formic_ | ohhh, sp4 | Mar 09 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | without having to crack anything | Mar 09 16:40 |
| Formic_ | which came out AFTER xp | Mar 09 16:40 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: so what? | Mar 09 16:40 |
| XFaCE | Notice it said UPDATED drivers | Mar 09 16:41 |
| XFaCE | ALA it existed in previous Service packs | Mar 09 16:41 |
| Formic_ | what about the high colour system tray icons? | Mar 09 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | they decided not to do an SP 5 and released what they had as "Windows 2000 SP4 Update Rollup 1" | Mar 09 16:41 |
| schestowitz | [16:39] <Formic_> your full of shit | Mar 09 16:41 |
| schestowitz | brandon , stop dropping acid | Mar 09 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | and so you need that plus a few hundred standalone hotfixes floating around | Mar 09 16:41 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: there's a patch | Mar 09 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | to get a fully patched Windows 2000 | Mar 09 16:41 |
| Formic_ | xface - link it | Mar 09 16:41 |
| XFaCE | http://my.opera.com/Cyro/blog/2007/07/05/windows-2000-using-3 | Mar 09 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cyro - Windows 2000 using 32-bit icons .::. Size~: 23.32 KB | Mar 09 16:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wealth Destroyers and End Game for the Copyright Modernization Act (Bill C-51) - http://bit.ly/xrYZHf good debunking at end (v @mgeist) | Mar 09 16:42 | |
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| XFaCE | What's funny though is that high coloured icons are the most unimportant change really | Mar 09 16:42 |
| Formic_ | xface - a patch from microsoft? | Mar 09 16:42 |
| XFaCE | no, but what does that matter? | Mar 09 16:42 |
| Formic_ | xface - anyone with the windows 2000 source code can make whatever they want | Mar 09 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Win98secover.png | Mar 09 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 09 16:42 |
| Formic_ | thats been floating around torrents since forever | Mar 09 16:42 |
| XFaCE | The fact that patch exists for Windows 2000 shows that the underlying os could run properly with that feature, and that it was just a atter of implementation | Mar 09 16:42 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: The patch exists for previous windows versions as well | Mar 09 16:43 |
| XFaCE | Windows 2000 can run without IE too | Mar 09 16:43 |
| Formic_ | sure, replace explorer.exe | Mar 09 16:43 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: no | Mar 09 16:43 |
| XFaCE | http://vorck.com | Mar 09 16:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fred Vorck .::. Size~: 0.21 KB | Mar 09 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | Who wants Windows 8 when they can have Windows 2000? | Mar 09 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | which is 1992 releases more advanced! | Mar 09 16:44 |
| XFaCE | There is a difference to Microsoft "impossible" and what is impossible in reality | Mar 09 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's from the future! | Mar 09 16:44 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: lol | Mar 09 16:44 |
| Formic_ | explorer.exe uses IE | Mar 09 16:44 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: no, it shares libraries with it | Mar 09 16:44 |
| XFaCE | Which was a stupid design decision that haunts MS to this day | Mar 09 16:44 |
| Formic_ | xface - anyways pardon me for being wrong, im not a windows expert like you :) | Mar 09 16:45 |
| XFaCE | Even Windows 7 still has some degree of IE-Windows Explorer integration through the toolbar setup | Mar 09 16:45 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: I'm not one either. I've just had to put up with it for years | Mar 09 16:45 |
| Formic_ | xface - I've used 2000/xp and shit long enough but never long enough to bother fixing microsofts mistakes | Mar 09 16:46 |
| Formic_ | interesting that you can make 2000 work properly | Mar 09 16:46 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: For me, the superiority of GNU+Linux can be found in comparing the work that needs to be done in Fred Vorck's well-written tutorial to make Windows 2000 "usable" compared to just installing a Distro without the applications you want | Mar 09 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | Learn how to use your computer all over again, be tortured by a new version of IE when you never wanted it in the first place, mandatory upgrade for anyone who wants new video games to work! How much would YOU pay for this new layer of bullshit on top of Windows NT? | Mar 09 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | Wait just one second before you answer! | Mar 09 16:46 |
| XFaCE | You have to expend so much time and effort just to make Windows workable | Mar 09 16:46 |
| XFaCE | Like trying to beat an impossible to win game | Mar 09 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | It has a clock and Reversi, and Paint, and you can look at 16-color bitmaps of that car from Miami Vice! | Mar 09 16:46 |
| Formic_ | xface - thats why I gave up on windows too | Mar 09 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | Except in Nebraska! | Mar 09 16:47 |
| Formic_ | xface - when I had to build a bartpe boot disk to remove viruses | Mar 09 16:47 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: I can understand the drive to make Windows work. It's the same drive as the one to make Free software, actually | Mar 09 16:47 |
| XFaCE | They want to crack the code | Mar 09 16:47 |
| Formic_ | xface - thats when i switched full time | Mar 09 16:47 |
| XFaCE | They want the answers | Mar 09 16:47 |
| Formic_ | xface - microsoft is finally giving users a usb bootable option of windows so you can remove viruses without your os loaded | Mar 09 16:48 |
| XFaCE | Only when you step back and truly look at the situation/environment that MS has established do you realize that what these guys are doing is akin to debating the meaning of 2001 | Mar 09 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk | Mar 09 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ballmer sells windows1.0 - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.41 KB | Mar 09 16:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thinking About #Drones - http://bit.ly/AwlV0X don't miss the drones building a brick wall... | Mar 09 16:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thinking About Drones - Global Guerrillas .::. Size~: 66.21 KB | Mar 09 16:48 |
| Formic_ | bartpe shouldnt even exist | Mar 09 16:49 |
| XFaCE | Windows development to get around Microsoft's anti-user choices is ultimately noteworthy but wasted effort. | Mar 09 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8IufkbuD0&feature=related | Mar 09 16:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Ballmer Sells Windows XP - YouTube .::. Size~: 122.84 KB | Mar 09 16:49 |
| XFaCE | All that hard work can be undone in an instant when Microsoft changes something, even something subtle | Mar 09 16:50 |
| XFaCE | You spends another large block of time to figure that out. When does it end | Mar 09 16:50 |
| Formic_ | xface - I lock down my linux boxes from my users | Mar 09 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's SECURE!!! So secure that it will still have lots of malware 7,000 patches later! | Mar 09 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 16:50 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: your personal computers? Or are you making computers for these users? | Mar 09 16:51 |
| Formic_ | xface - computers I maintain for other people | Mar 09 16:51 |
| Formic_ | gf, family, etc | Mar 09 16:51 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: If they one day had the initiative to explore the settings and learn about the underlying system, you would unlock it for them right? | Mar 09 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #RaspberryPi Fedora Remix, our recommended distro, is ready for download! - http://bit.ly/z9ajMg actaul kit, not so much | Mar 09 16:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix, our recommended distro, is ready for download! | Raspberry Pi .::. Size~: 179.56 KB | Mar 09 16:52 |
| Formic_ | xface - I would give them a clean system to work with to learn until I trusted them | Mar 09 16:52 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: Exactly | Mar 09 16:52 |
| Formic_ | xface - kvm works wonders, same with virtualbox | Mar 09 16:52 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft doesn't go even that far | Mar 09 16:52 |
| Formic_ | xface - microsoft doesnt have smart customers | Mar 09 16:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] DoJ warning means one thing: E-book prices are coming down - http://bit.ly/xhK7lV about time, too #ebooks | Mar 09 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Microsoft will allow Windows and Office on the iPad; but it won't be free http://goo.gl/JG3Oi already paid for Windows, & Office, and again | Mar 09 16:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pNGO5ppfQ8&feature=related | Mar 09 16:54 |
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| Formic_ | xface - microsofts users have Stockholm Syndrome | Mar 09 16:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://bit.ly/y7UXbv | Mar 09 16:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mark Shuttleworth » Blog Archive » Government use of Ubuntu .::. Size~: 36.84 KB | Mar 09 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y4Vh_ZLIYs&feature=related | Mar 09 16:55 |
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| XFaCE | Formic_: Many of them are smart, just misguided. Stuck in a bubble. Following the rules. | Mar 09 16:55 |
| Formic_ | forced to use their products for so long and so used to the abuse that they stick with it even with the massive number of alternatives available | Mar 09 16:55 |
| Formic_ | im sure given the choice when first going into computers, that nobody would willingly pick microsoft | Mar 09 16:57 |
| XFaCE | if presented with unbiased information, I'm sure many would do that. | Mar 09 16:58 |
| Formic_ | yes exactly | Mar 09 16:58 |
| XFaCE | Some may stil consider MS after all the options | Mar 09 16:58 |
| Formic_ | I dunno why people would pick a platform that costs lots of money, requires an antivirus and security products that also cost lots of money | Mar 09 16:58 |
| XFaCE | The problem now is that we live in a world governmented by conformist societal trends | Mar 09 16:58 |
| XFaCE | we don't receive much unbiased information | Mar 09 16:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government use of #Ubuntu - http://bit.ly/y7UXbv good to see Mr Shuttleworth thinking about this | Mar 09 16:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=61036& | Mar 09 16:59 |
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| DaemonFC | I had one of these | Mar 09 16:59 |
| XFaCE | we instead receive information filtered through corporatist lenses | Mar 09 16:59 |
| XFaCE | designed to intensify the conformist effect | Mar 09 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | like Unity lenses? | Mar 09 16:59 |
| XFaCE | When you tell a user that just used Windows because that's what computers run in their minds | Mar 09 17:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Speculative invoicing 2: Golden Eye in court - http://bit.ly/ziKx17 important UK case | Mar 09 17:00 | |
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| XFaCE | Tell them that they could use GNU+Linux instead | Mar 09 17:00 |
| XFaCE | they treat you the same as would a person who daresay questions the behaviour of his/her religion | Mar 09 17:01 |
| iophk | If Shuttleworth is blogging about Government use of Ubuntu, how well has the pitch to the Russian government been going? http://ostatic.com/blog/russian-government-will-transition-to-linux-by-2015 | Mar 09 17:01 |
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| XFaCE | Especially if the society is dominated by that dogma | Mar 09 17:01 |
| iophk | The only other real competitor would be Red Hat | Mar 09 17:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Enranged Turkish Prime minister sues WikiLeaks partner Taraf over exposure | Hurriyet http://t.co/pl3D4TWH | Mar 09 17:02 | |
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| XFaCE | Formic_: Societal conditioning is a very powerful force. | Mar 09 17:06 |
| Formic_ | xface - yes it is, social approval creation | Mar 09 17:07 |
| XFaCE | now, a complete different topic | Mar 09 17:08 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: What seems to be the problem that Glyn Moody is refering to in regards to Ras Pi Fedora? | Mar 09 17:08 |
| Formic_ | Ras Pi Fedora is gonna roxx | Mar 09 17:09 |
| Formic_ | I'd like to know the issues too | Mar 09 17:09 |
| Formic_ | Seneca college is working on that spin | Mar 09 17:09 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: You Canadian? | Mar 09 17:09 |
| Formic_ | yes | Mar 09 17:09 |
| Formic_ | Seneca college hosted FUDcon a few years back too | Mar 09 17:10 |
| XFaCE | Canadian here too | Mar 09 17:10 |
| XFaCE | In the Ottawa area? | Mar 09 17:10 |
| Formic_ | no, gta area | Mar 09 17:10 |
| Formic_ | you live near prurigro ? | Mar 09 17:11 |
| XFaCE | relatively | Mar 09 17:12 |
| XFaCE | compared to the distance of toronto | Mar 09 17:12 |
| Formic_ | oh for sure | Mar 09 17:13 |
| Formic_ | i've gone to quebec and passed ottawa to get there | Mar 09 17:13 |
| Formic_ | took a long time, 4-5 hours | Mar 09 17:13 |
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| XFaCE | It be more possible for me to meet him at his residence and him at mine, than for me to just spontaneously go to Toronto | Mar 09 17:13 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Jono couldn't take all this friendliness | Mar 09 17:13 |
| XFaCE | I still can't get why Jono even comes here | Mar 09 17:14 |
| Formic_ | xface - im not exactly in toronto either, im an hour away in the opposite direction from ottawa | Mar 09 17:14 |
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| Formic_ | we should all meet up if there is a FUDcon or another linux con in the GTA | Mar 09 17:14 |
| XFaCE | Ugh, Toronto | Mar 09 17:14 |
| XFaCE | lol | Mar 09 17:14 |
| XFaCE | Going to Toronto is sometimes a chore | Mar 09 17:15 |
| Formic_ | yeah the city of toronto is brutal | Mar 09 17:15 |
| XFaCE | Toronto is a MEME | Mar 09 17:15 |
| Formic_ | its faster for me to take the go bus than it is to drive there and try and locate $20 parking | Mar 09 17:15 |
| XFaCE | well, that's not so bad | Mar 09 17:16 |
| Formic_ | plus the go bus IS ~$20 | Mar 09 17:16 |
| XFaCE | I take the bus almost every day | Mar 09 17:16 |
| XFaCE | oo | Mar 09 17:16 |
| XFaCE | That's insane | Mar 09 17:16 |
| Formic_ | there and back | Mar 09 17:16 |
| Formic_ | cheaper than gas + parking | Mar 09 17:16 |
| XFaCE | I have a Upass from my university, meaning that it is paid for in my tuition | Mar 09 17:16 |
| Formic_ | nice | Mar 09 17:16 |
| XFaCE | and I can take any bus any time | Mar 09 17:16 |
| XFaCE | Even with that, fare here is at most 5$ | Mar 09 17:16 |
| Formic_ | thats awesome | Mar 09 17:16 |
| XFaCE | with transfer passes and other benefits | Mar 09 17:17 |
| Formic_ | just ottawa? | Mar 09 17:17 |
| XFaCE | Well, the region of Ottawa is huge | Mar 09 17:17 |
| XFaCE | So technically no | Mar 09 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Canada as a whole is huge | Mar 09 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Imperial Oil Harper might want to convert Canada into energy :-) | Mar 09 17:17 |
| XFaCE | What today is Ottawa was once a region known as Ottawa-Carleton | Mar 09 17:17 |
| Formic_ | when I was in college I got a TTC pass which worked in Toronto,Brampton,Mississauga,Oakville | Mar 09 17:17 |
| XFaCE | Of which Ottawa was one of the cities within | Mar 09 17:18 |
| XFaCE | Now, the region of Ottawa-Carleton is now the city of Ottawa | Mar 09 17:18 |
| XFaCE | consquently, one of the largest "cities" in terms of area | Mar 09 17:18 |
| XFaCE | "The City of Ottawa Act, 1999 (French: Loi de 1999 sur la ville d’Ottawa) is an act of the legislature of Ontario which created the City of Ottawa. The Act was first passed in 1999 to provide for the 2001 amalgamation of the former Region of Ottawa-Carleton, the former cities of Ottawa, Nepean, Kanata, Gloucester, Vanier and Cumberland, the former townships of West Carleton, Goulburn, Rideau, and Osgoode, and the former village of Rockcliffe Park in | Mar 09 17:18 |
| XFaCE | to the new City of Ottawa." | Mar 09 17:18 |
| schestowitz | mostly empty space? | Mar 09 17:18 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: filled with the "Back off Government" simpletons | Mar 09 17:19 |
| schestowitz | oh, I see.. | Mar 09 17:19 |
| schestowitz | Washington DC is the crime capital still, I think | Mar 09 17:19 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Newottawamap.png | Mar 09 17:19 |
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| schestowitz | mississippi river? | Mar 09 17:20 |
| XFaCE | I would say that Ottawa has a majority of rural, but the urban areas do consist of a large portion of the area, as you can see on the map | Mar 09 17:20 |
| Formic_ | xface - my mom was born there | Mar 09 17:20 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Yes, we have a mississippi river | Mar 09 17:21 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: I actually don't live in the region of the ottawa [/spoiler] | Mar 09 17:21 |
| Formic_ | im sure if you did all you could do is smell bullshit all day ;) | Mar 09 17:21 |
| schestowitz | I can haz a raft? | Mar 09 17:21 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: huh? | Mar 09 17:22 |
| Formic_ | with the most foul pungent odour coming from parliament | Mar 09 17:22 |
| XFaCE | Formic_: Harper is too sterilized to have natural human odours | Mar 09 17:22 |
| Formic_ | the smell of bullshit is so strong they had to expand ottawa so people could spread out away from it | Mar 09 17:23 |
| Formic_ | LOL | Mar 09 17:23 |
| Formic_ | yeah but thats just harper | Mar 09 17:23 |
| Formic_ | what about all the other crooked politicians | Mar 09 17:23 |
| XFaCE | "The origin of the river's name is something of a mystery; although its current spelling may be derived from that of its much larger American cousin, it is most certainly a corruption of a different native name, as the translation 'great water' would not apply to a relatively minor tributary of the Ottawa, definitely the largest river in the area. Instead, the name may originate from "Mazinaa[bikinigan]-ziibi", Algonquian for '[painted] image river', | Mar 09 17:23 |
| XFaCE | referring to the pictographs found on Mazinaw Lake, though this is by no means proven." | Mar 09 17:23 |
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| XFaCE | I killed DaemonFC...with knowledge. | Mar 09 17:24 |
| Formic_ | xface - is that hard? ;) | Mar 09 17:24 |
| Formic_ | xface - be back soon | Mar 09 17:25 |
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| *XFaCE ** WinSys ** Client: XChat-WDK 1500 (x86) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 350 @ 2.27GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3501 MB Total (1848 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics ** Uptime: 70.77 Hours ** | Mar 09 17:27 | |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Can you explain why the i3 is a fake quadcore (actually only dual core)? | Mar 09 17:28 |
| XFaCE | I still don't get it | Mar 09 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | I don't recall saying that | Mar 09 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | the Core 2 Quad wasn't | Mar 09 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 17:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] What do people use to make slides these days? Beamer? Impress? Slidy? S5? !gnu !linux | Mar 09 17:30 | |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: huh? | Mar 09 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | well, there really were 4 cores | Mar 09 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | but communication between them had to occur over the FSB | Mar 09 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | the Phenom never had that problem | Mar 09 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: Architecturally, AMD and Intel's first dual core designs more closely resembled what you'd get with a dual socket motherboard and multiple CPUs | Mar 09 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | which had been possible for a long time | Mar 09 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | it just so happened that Microsoft's obnoxious licensing made it unfeasible to use motherboards with more than one CPU socket | Mar 09 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | because to get it to address two of them, you needed Windows "professional" and that policy is still in effect | Mar 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | beyond that, you needed Windows Server and each physical CPU socket needed its own Windows license | Mar 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | putting more than one processor in the same socket was an end run around Microsoft's EULA for Windows | Mar 09 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | because that way they only counted one socket | Mar 09 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: I had a system with a dual socket motherboard at one point | Mar 09 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | dual Pentium 3s | Mar 09 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | came with Windows 2000 | Mar 09 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | but they existed before that | Mar 09 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | you could use a configuration with more than one socket as early as Windows NT 4 | Mar 09 17:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Government use of #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8ktjy #gnu #linux | Mar 09 17:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | Windows XP Home, Windows Vista Home, and Windows 7 Home are all crippled so that they will only recognize one socket | Mar 09 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | but all professional licenses will recognize up to two | Mar 09 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | you still see some dual socket motherboards on the really high end workstation PC market | Mar 09 17:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Bulgaria's GERB promised not to ratify #ACTA in parliament - http://bit.ly/wR5NKi not clear what this means in practice (v @StopActaNow) | Mar 09 17:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | those may go away though | Mar 09 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | we're starting to see CPUs with 8-16 cores | Mar 09 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | and that number will only keep rising for the foreseeable future | Mar 09 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, I'd bet on multi-socket workstation motherboards disappearing soon | Mar 09 17:43 |
| XFaCE | and this is the case with my i3? | Mar 09 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | the last thing Microsoft wants is for you to do something like cram two 16-core CPUs on a Windows "Professional" license | Mar 09 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | and get out of being gouged with Windows Server | Mar 09 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | no, the i3 is architecturally one CPU with however many cores it reports | Mar 09 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | the Core 2 was as many CPUs as it reported as "cores" on one die | Mar 09 17:45 |
| XFaCE | I thought cores <> cpus | Mar 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | the distinction is subtle and Intel made sure to use the term "cores" instead of "CPUs" | Mar 09 17:46 |
| XFaCE | Right | Mar 09 17:46 |
| XFaCE | I know that 4 cores doesn't mean 4 processor | Mar 09 17:46 |
| XFaCE | s | Mar 09 17:46 |
| XFaCE | That's silly :P | Mar 09 17:46 |
| XFaCE | (In a laptop format) | Mar 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | it does on the Core 2 | Mar 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 17:46 |
| XFaCE | ok | Mar 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Core 2 Quad is four separate CPUs on one die | Mar 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | Core iwhatever is one CPU with multiple cores | Mar 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | it's a subtle and confusing, but architecturally important distinction | Mar 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | one CPU with multiple cores will perform better than individual CPUs one one die | Mar 09 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | *on one | Mar 09 17:48 |
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| DaemonFC | but at a high level, they look exactly the same | Mar 09 17:48 |
| XFaCE | ok | Mar 09 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "President Obama promised he would “create a centralized Internet database of lobbying reports, ethics... http://b1t.it/a2Iy | Mar 09 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former top Microsoft exec says world is over the PC http://ur1.ca/8lhpx #android #desktop | Mar 09 17:48 | |
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| XFaCE | But what does it mean when the I3 is a dual core with two virtual cores? | Mar 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Intel deliberately confused people so that they wouldn't't have to admit to an inferior design | Mar 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | means one CPU, two cores, both cores have Hyperthreading | Mar 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | hyperthreading doesn't help you in most cases | Mar 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, it can make performance worse | Mar 09 17:49 |
| XFaCE | and hyperthreading creates the illustion of two extra cores? | Mar 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | if I had such a system I'd try disabling hyperthreading support in the kernel and running benchmarks both ways to make sure that it was actually helping my particular workloads | Mar 09 17:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: MadBox 11.10 http://ur1.ca/8lhq5 #gnu #linux | Mar 09 17:50 | |
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| DaemonFC | hyperthreading creates its own overhead | Mar 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | and complicates the CPU scheduler | Mar 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | it will definitely create extra latency and maybe even worse throughput | Mar 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'd guess towards saying it will hurt more workloads than it helps on a modern Intel CPU | Mar 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | if you have a Pentium 4 or a Pentium D with it, leave it on | Mar 09 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint 12 LXDE released! http://ur1.ca/8lfbe #LXDE #gnu #linux | Mar 09 17:52 | |
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| DaemonFC | the execution pipeline on the Pentium 4 was incredibly inefficient | Mar 09 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] German open source development site Berlios joins Sourceforge | Joinup http://goo.gl/gg19Y #floss | Mar 09 17:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | XFaCE: Intel is really sneaky and gimmicky | Mar 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | if they do document some of the more embarrassing points of their CPU designs, it's through Technical Bulletins or footnotes in baroque documentation that nobody ever reads | Mar 09 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | I also don't trust benchmarks of proprietary software, ever | Mar 09 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | for one thing, if they used Intel's compiler, then it has most likely sabotages the binary output to favor Intel CPUs | Mar 09 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | GCC creates code that is highly optimized for Intel and AMD CPUs | Mar 09 17:56 |
| Formic_ | [12:49] <DaemonFC> hyperthreading doesn't help you in most cases | Mar 09 17:57 |
| Formic_ | [12:49] <DaemonFC> in fact, it can make performance worse | Mar 09 17:57 |
| Formic_ | wrong again DaemonFC | Mar 09 17:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tails 0.10.2 is out http://ur1.ca/8j2qe #tails #gnu #linux | Mar 09 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux patent pool changes aim for more dynamic protection - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/Kykrl #patents #oin #gnulinux | Mar 09 17:57 | |
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| Formic_ | do you even run gnu+linux? | Mar 09 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | Intel deliberately forces unoptimized code paths on competing CPUs | Mar 09 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | even if it could have handled the more optimal ones | Mar 09 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | and it makes those determinations on whether or not the CPU identifies itself as "Genuine Intel" or not, not on the stated capabilities of the CPU | Mar 09 17:58 |
| Formic_ | DaemonFC - why can't amd make proper cpus? | Mar 09 17:58 |
| Formic_ | intel and arm have no problem | Mar 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | they do | Mar 09 17:58 |
| Formic_ | they dont | Mar 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | Intel makes overpriced crap | Mar 09 17:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora Remix Is the Official Linux Distro of Raspberry Pi http://ur1.ca/8lhrq #fedora #linux | Mar 09 17:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NHS reforms: government to defy order to publish risk register http://gu.com/p/364vv might expose ideological issues & lobbyists | Mar 09 17:58 | |
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| Formic_ | amd makes overheating cpus | Mar 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | they're jsut a marketing company with a high profit margin | Mar 09 17:59 |
| schestowitz | and uses patents to overprice the competition, too | Mar 09 17:59 |
| Formic_ | if you dont like intel, go arm | Mar 09 17:59 |
| Formic_ | amd isnt better, its worse | Mar 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | I won't use Intel anymore | Mar 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | their products are always inferior | Mar 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | their boards tend to have buggier firmware than AMD's | Mar 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | I've encountered far more Intel systems that were overheating or refused to boot a Linux kernel than AMD systems | Mar 09 18:01 |
| Formic_ | did you clean out the dust | Mar 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | dust wasn't the problem | Mar 09 18:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be nice if both Lords and MPs announced they'd vote against it without even listening to arguments, until the register was published | Mar 09 18:02 | |
| DaemonFC | I take the sides and front of the case off and blow the dust and crap out of everything monthly | Mar 09 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | dust is never a problem in any computer I own | Mar 09 18:02 |
| Formic_ | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_fx4100_bulldozer&num=2 | Mar 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | I even take out my GPU and blow all the dust out of it | Mar 09 18:03 |
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| DaemonFC | you need a really recent GCC to optimize for Bulldozer | Mar 09 18:03 |
| Formic_ | im even running a bolldozer myself | Mar 09 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | performance went way up in the 4.6 series | Mar 09 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #A4e faces new fraud investigation http://gu.com/p/3644x all similar schemes will be audited for fraud; about fucking time | Mar 09 18:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: A4e faces new fraud investigation | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 90.64 KB | Mar 09 18:03 |
| Formic_ | these benchmarks include gcc 4.5 and 4.6 | Mar 09 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 12.04 to ship with enhanced privacy controls http://ur1.ca/8lhtr #ubuntu #canonical | Mar 09 18:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Twitter still spends $2 to make each $1 in revenue, shows no sign of improving (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/zyRHM0 | Mar 09 18:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | Bulldozer only has one FPU as well | Mar 09 18:05 |
| Formic_ | oh so its less advanced? | Mar 09 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | it's designed to be cheap, not to run scientific workloads | Mar 09 18:05 |
| Formic_ | i thought you said intel was inferior | Mar 09 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, there's many cases where my Phenom II will kick the crap out of those | Mar 09 18:06 |
| Formic_ | daemonfc - show me and prove me wrong | Mar 09 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | Bulldozer is meant for people who surf the internet and browse porn | Mar 09 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | not for people that are going to run Folding @ Home | Mar 09 18:06 |
| Formic_ | so whats better than a bulldozer | Mar 09 18:07 |
| Formic_ | other than server cpus | Mar 09 18:07 |
| Formic_ | while a midrange intel i5 does the workload | Mar 09 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | well, you could go with an Opteron, you could use a Phenom II instead | Mar 09 18:07 |
| Formic_ | phenom 2's only have up to six cores | Mar 09 18:07 |
| Formic_ | an old i7 has 4 cores + hyperthreading, to gcc thats 8 cpus | Mar 09 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | when I build a new system I plan to use an Opteron | Mar 09 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | but that won't be for years | Mar 09 18:08 |
| Formic_ | the only area where I think amd beats intel is in price | Mar 09 18:09 |
| Formic_ | my dozer was under $200 | Mar 09 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | AMD is focusing more on their GPUs now | Mar 09 18:09 |
| Formic_ | the best intel is around $2000 | Mar 09 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | since that's where everything is going to anyway | Mar 09 18:09 |
| Formic_ | yeah they would be better off dropping cpus and competing with nvidia | Mar 09 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | I think buying a high end i7 and dealing with their integrated Intel graphics is a worse decision than sticking in a Phenom II and a kick ass GPU | Mar 09 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 18:10 |
| Formic_ | intel graphics are open source | Mar 09 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's not the only concern I have | Mar 09 18:11 |
| Formic_ | they dont throw code at open source devs and tell them to get cracking, they actually maintain their code | Mar 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | something that can run a game from 2004 without falling over and dying would be nice | Mar 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | Intel still can't manage that | Mar 09 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 18:11 |
| Formic_ | what game | Mar 09 18:11 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91724375 | Mar 09 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 09-Mar-12 18:05:24 UTC - Identi.ca: #Google Tablet May Debut In May http://ur1.ca/8lhu6 #gnu #linux | Mar 09 18:11 |
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| DaemonFC | the Intel HD graphics that comes with a $1,200 i7 is easily beaten by a $30 RadeonHD | Mar 09 18:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Blue Drop Awards: Community recognition the open source way with @BenFinklea by @jhibbets | http://red.ht/xqray6 #Drupal | Mar 09 18:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fox Attacks Wages of Working-Class Maids http://ur1.ca/8li2t Fox: rich people teaching middle class to hate poor people | Mar 09 18:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Blue Drop Awards: Community recognition the open source way | opensource.com .::. Size~: 55.86 KB | Mar 09 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's just pitiful | Mar 09 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fox Attacks Wages of Working-Class Maids | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 45.13 KB | Mar 09 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | pitiful | Mar 09 18:12 |
| Formic_ | i wouldnt say that | Mar 09 18:12 |
| Formic_ | not a $30 radeon | Mar 09 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | well, an office secretary would never know the difference | Mar 09 18:12 |
| Formic_ | a $80-100 radeon | Mar 09 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | but if you're cheaping out, you wouldn't want a $1,200 Intel CPU anyway | Mar 09 18:13 |
| Formic_ | people who usually but the $1,200 to $2000 intel cpu bundle it with a $700 nvidia | Mar 09 18:13 |
| Formic_ | hmm, AMD Radeons do run pyrit faster ;) | Mar 09 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | Phoronix looked at the Intel HD crap a while back | Mar 09 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | and it lost to a $30 bargain basement Radeon | Mar 09 18:14 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I compare it to a Radeon 9000 pro | Mar 09 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately he churns out so much spam to drive up ad hits | Mar 09 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm having trouble finding that | Mar 09 18:15 |
| XFaCE | Because I don't do many games and those I do are from the era of the radeon 9000 | Mar 09 18:15 |
| Formic_ | I usually play my games on a console or handheld | Mar 09 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | the Radeon 9000 series only had OpenGL 1.x support | Mar 09 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | blecth | Mar 09 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | useless | Mar 09 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | that's not only a piss poor ATI design, it's a piss poor ATI design from 10 years ago | Mar 09 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] NYC theaters experiment with "TweetSeats" (IEEE Spectrum): http://bit.ly/xfVbf2 | Mar 09 18:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | to do anything useful with a modern system, you'll need at least OpenGL 2.1 support | Mar 09 18:17 |
| Formic_ | back then I would have loved a 9800 ati | Mar 09 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | the Intel HD supports OpenGL 3 | Mar 09 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | it just runs things at an absolutely glacial speed | Mar 09 18:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Boy oh boy browser search just does not play well with Twitter/Facebook's Infinite scroll feature (or whatever it is called)... | Mar 09 18:18 | |
| Formic_ | support just means it works, doenst mean fast | Mar 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | speed can have requirements too | Mar 09 18:19 |
| schestowitz | like 24 f/s | Mar 09 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | you're going to need at least 30 fps to play a first person shooter | Mar 09 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | @ 1920 x 1080? | Mar 09 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Intel HD might just barely eek by on Doom 3 | Mar 09 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | which is from 2004 | Mar 09 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | if you don't run it on Ultra High :D | Mar 09 18:20 |
| schestowitz | InteLOL | Mar 09 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | MLAA is such a drag that if you turn it on in Mesa, every video game on every driver will be unplayable | Mar 09 18:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks, Wars & Whistleblowers | Al Jazeera http://t.co/puby9cNv @wllegal | Mar 09 18:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's promoted as being more efficient than MSAA but it really isn't | Mar 09 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | (MLAA is off by default and I've questioned on my blog if it even really is free software) | Mar 09 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | the MLAA source code that went into Mesa has two troubling license terms. The less severe (but obnoxious) one is that you must refer to it in any documentation or in anything the user is going to see (including the applet that will enable it through the drirc) as "Jiminez's MLAA" | Mar 09 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | that alone might not make it nonfree, it's obnoxious but it might just end there (the original BSD license was free but obnoxious with its advertising clause) | Mar 09 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google is globally switching its search to HTTPS by default http://ping.fm/f3vID | Mar 09 18:25 | |
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| DaemonFC | the more severe license term that almost certainly makes it not only nonfree, but also not open source per the OSI definition, is that it's only licensed for use in Mesa | Mar 09 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | if you take the code and put it into something else, you've violated the license | Mar 09 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | so I have a hard time seeing how it is free and/or open source | Mar 09 18:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NOAA and GNU/Linux Predict the Weather http://ur1.ca/8lijd #weather #gnu #linux | Mar 09 18:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | I pointed that out on Phoronix too and someone replied saying how we should get down on our knees and praise them for licensing something on nonfree terms that only Mesa can use, that has an annoying advertising clause, that instantly makes every application too slow to use if you enable it | Mar 09 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 18:27 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://www.reghardware.com/2012/03/08/lenovo_recalls_50000_thinkcentre_desktop_pcs/ okay, maybe it's not so funny | Mar 09 18:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lenovo recalls 160,000 all-in-one PCs after blaze warning • reghardware .::. Size~: 21.57 KB | Mar 09 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | personally, I think it's not worth the 30,000 lines of code that it added to Mesa that will now have to be maintained even though few people can actually make use of it | Mar 09 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | and after they took a shit on the user's freedom with that, the people behind MLAA went and developed another anti-aliasing scheme that so far isn't licensed to anyone at all and (according to them) much less demanding than MLAA was | Mar 09 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | so it's abandoned as well | Mar 09 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | super :) | Mar 09 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "Protestors" call games industry a "temple of sin," demand repentance http://goo.gl/VUtNI | Mar 09 18:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "Protestors" call games industry a "temple of sin," demand repentance .::. Size~: 35.52 KB | Mar 09 18:32 |
| Formic_ | lol repentance | Mar 09 18:32 |
| Formic_ | "but we dont pray to an invisible man living in the sky" | Mar 09 18:32 |
| Formic_ | "oh... well then... burn in hell" | Mar 09 18:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google, Asustek co-brand 7-inch tablet PC to debut earliest in May http://ur1.ca/8lind #linux #tablet | Mar 09 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google, Asustek co-brand 7-inch tablet PC to debut earliest in May .::. Size~: 50.37 KB | Mar 09 18:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Big Music Companies Are Stealing Hundreds Of Millions In Royalties From Artists http://goo.gl/6iA7t #fb | Mar 09 18:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Big Music Companies Are Stealing Hundreds Of Millions In Royalties From Artists | Techdirt .::. Size~: 62.04 KB | Mar 09 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | The Great Permissive Dude In The Sky That Lets Me Do Pretty Much Whatever | Mar 09 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | I can get behind that | Mar 09 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In December 2010, just after WikiLeaks began releasing Cablegate, about 1% of all tweets were about #WikiLeaks. http://t.co/PG2u6D3e | Mar 09 18:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] From the "better late than never" dept :-). A video interview with Dr. Andrew Tridgell from 2011 SambaXP. http://ur1.ca/8lizs | Mar 09 18:45 | |
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| DaemonFC | so far I haven't discovered any particularly heinous bugs in this month's Catalyst | Mar 09 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | that's refreshing | Mar 09 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | they're probably trying to stabilize it before Ubuntu 12.04 goes out, then they can go back to fucking it up in random and bizarre ways and taking months to fix the problems they introduce | Mar 09 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | The Applications / Places / System Menu | Mar 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 2's three-part menu might be called its main identifying feature. No installation is without it. Yet, for all its omnipresence, it's irritating to use. | Mar 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.datamation.com/open-source/the-gnome-2-zombie-1.html | Mar 09 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The GNOME 2 Zombie - Datamation .::. Size~: 54.81 KB | Mar 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't find that particularly annoying | Mar 09 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | it was one part of GNOME that actually made plenty of sense | Mar 09 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | complaining about minor quirks ad ignoring the poor design choices that really harm usability is something you see in a lot of reviews about GNOME Shell and Unity | Mar 09 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | *and | Mar 09 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FOSS v proprietary software: image editing http://ur1.ca/8lj7t #gimp #gnu | Mar 09 18:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FOSS v proprietary software: image editing | Content Creation | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 63.32 KB | Mar 09 18:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New stable series for Canonical's Bazaar version control http://ur1.ca/8lj9h #canonical #Bazaar | Mar 09 18:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New stable series for Canonical's Bazaar version control - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.46 KB | Mar 09 18:58 |
| schestowitz | "Yeah its amazing how many people have moved onto using tablets and smart-phones over their PC." http://digg.com/news/technology/former_top_microsoft_exec_says_world_is_over_the_pc | Mar 09 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Former top Microsoft exec says world is over the PC - Digg .::. Size~: 38.94 KB | Mar 09 19:01 |
| schestowitz | or use both | Mar 09 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Big Music Companies Are Stealing Hundreds Of Millions In Royalties From Artists - http://bit.ly/zIcJnp outrageous - as usual | Mar 09 19:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Big Music Companies Are Stealing Hundreds Of Millions In Royalties From Artists | Techdirt .::. Size~: 70.87 KB | Mar 09 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Foundation addednot only Nvidia http://ur1.ca/8ljil 3 Other New Members | Mar 09 19:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Foundation Welcomes Nvidia, 3 Other New Members .::. Size~: 108.88 KB | Mar 09 19:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] On the privacy elements of the BT, TalkTalk DEA loss in the Court of Appeal - http://bit.ly/zpgTQ7 good point about *scale* #deact | Mar 09 19:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Apple begins using OpenStreetMap data, to OSM Foundation's surprise - http://bit.ly/Ai3jtW #openstreetmap rising | Mar 09 19:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Apple begins using OpenStreetMap data, to OSM Foundation's surprise .::. Size~: 34.56 KB | Mar 09 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dongles have software too, it's just embedded, often Linux. Bad headline: http://ur1.ca/8ljm2 | Mar 09 19:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Clear Stick Atlas WiMAX dongle connects to computers, tablets without any software | The Verge .::. Size~: 89.18 KB | Mar 09 19:20 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/91725986 | Mar 09 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 09-Mar-12 19:13:23 UTC - Identi.ca: Kernel Log: Coming in 3.3 (Part 4) – Drivers http://ur1.ca/8ljjy #linux #kernel | Mar 09 19:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fluendo Joins The Linux Foundation http://ur1.ca/8ljn7 problem with #Fluendo is, it promotes #swpats tax in #linux | Mar 09 19:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Reuters claims FBI is investigating News Corp ops in Russia. Will it investigate Stratfor payments also, or does it only target Australians? | Mar 09 19:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fluendo Joins The Linux Foundation | Virtual-Strategy Magazine .::. Size~: 26.7 KB | Mar 09 19:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NSA, German government using #Android for secure phones - http://bit.ly/yjg5NC the power of openness | Mar 09 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft led #Nokia to the cliff with billions in losses, someone in Nokia runs back to #linux http://ur1.ca/8ljpi | Mar 09 19:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NSA, German government using Android for secure phones - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.44 KB | Mar 09 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia to focus on budget handsets | News | TechRadar .::. Size~: 71.45 KB | Mar 09 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux 3.4 Kernel Will Support Intel Medfield Graphics http://ur1.ca/8ljqz #linux #kernel | Mar 09 19:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Linux 3.4 Kernel Will Support Intel Medfield Graphics .::. Size~: 19.09 KB | Mar 09 19:28 |
| schestowitz | http://digg.com/alphadoggs "Claim to fame: former yoyo Guinness World Record holder." | Mar 09 19:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA and access to medicines: flawed process, rationale and agreement - http://bit.ly/xCOME5 good analysis of why #ACTA will kill people | Mar 09 19:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA and access to medicines: flawed process, rationale and agreement | EurActiv .::. Size~: 88.08 KB | Mar 09 19:30 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The New York Times joins Mozilla and Knight Foundation to drive open innovation in news - http://bit.ly/wDJvlH #journalism | Mar 09 19:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The New York Times joins Mozilla and Knight Foundation to drive open innovation in news | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 29.39 KB | Mar 09 19:33 |
| schestowitz | has anyone tried this? http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Nightingale-media-player-1-11-0-released-1464765.html | Mar 09 19:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nightingale media player 1.11.0 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.17 KB | Mar 09 19:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google is globally switching its search to HTTPS by default - http://bit.ly/w1Z9sS others ought to follow | Mar 09 19:37 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google is globally switching its search to HTTPS by default - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.8 KB | Mar 09 19:37 |
| Formic_ | "Google is globally switching its search to HTTPS by default "<--- Only WE can spy | Mar 09 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] This post completely nails it as to why "piracy" exists. http://ur1.ca/8ljvb. Nothing will change, it doesn't fit media corp. ideas. | Mar 09 19:38 | |
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| Formic_ | schestowitz - I thought Steven Harper and his new prisons were bad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/02/police-privatisation-security-firms-crime | Mar 09 19:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Revealed: government plans for police privatisation | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 230.66 KB | Mar 09 19:39 |
| Formic_ | I would hate the idea of a rent-a-cop actually having power | Mar 09 19:40 |
| Formic_ | scary shit | Mar 09 19:40 |
| Formic_ | its like having blackwater as your local police | Mar 09 19:40 |
| Formic_ | lol look at this dudes teeth: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/04/police-privatisation-plans-defend-acpo | Mar 09 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Police privatisation plans defended by senior officers | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 241.94 KB | Mar 09 19:41 |
| Formic_ | "grrrrrrrrr, we need private po po's" | Mar 09 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Según WikiLeaks, Chávez traicionó a las FARC para calmar a generales | el Nuevo Herald http://t.co/1gdI5z25 | Mar 09 19:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EOPLE often fail to understand that a troll will strive to be inflammatory so as to push for censorship, then play the http://ur1.ca/8ljwp | Mar 09 19:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Google’s Plan To Make Maps Pay For Itself Could Backfire - http://tcrn.ch/xRRFKr someone else wakes up to unbeatable power of sharing | Mar 09 19:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/03/top-sc-official-resigns-amid-campaign-finance-probe/1?csp=34news#.T1pcZ0qPVhF | Mar 09 19:42 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Google-is-globally-switching-its-search-to-HTTPS-by-default-1468558.html | Mar 09 19:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google is globally switching its search to HTTPS by default - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.77 KB | Mar 09 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | good | Mar 09 19:45 |
| MinceR | http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/423135_183143171797517_115089668602868_256892_837892333_n.jpg | Mar 09 19:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Mar 09 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: One does not merely ROFL into MOARDOOR!!!11112 | Mar 09 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OSMF-Apple-is-using-OpenStreetMap-maps-1468575.html | Mar 09 19:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OSMF: Apple is using OpenStreetMap maps - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.12 KB | Mar 09 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | Apple is violating the Open Street Maps copyright | Mar 09 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Kernel-Log-Coming-in-3-3-Part-4-Drivers-1465292.html | Mar 09 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kernel Log: Coming in 3.3 (Part 4) – Drivers - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.41 KB | Mar 09 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | Highlights: Better Radeon support, Intel has disabled deep sleep on their integrated GPUs after giving up trying to figure out why that locks the kernel up, Microsoft Hyper-V finishes exiting -staging (yuck) | Mar 09 19:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Swedish Prime Minister, minister for military, concealed secret Saudi arms deal http://t.co/lLyzCMG6 | Mar 09 19:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 83 dents! | Mar 09 19:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Reinfeldt approved Saudi arms factory: report - The Local .::. Size~: 127.57 KB | Mar 09 19:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The case for dolphin rights - http://bit.ly/xbf1uT "if corporations can be people, my friends, why not dolphins?" quite | Mar 09 19:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @stav: How #Apple screws retailers http://ur1.ca/8lk0h | Mar 09 19:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Replicant developer interview: Building a truly free Android http://ur1.ca/8lk43 #android #linux | Mar 09 20:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Replicant developer interview: Building a truly free Android - PC Advisor .::. Size~: 134.03 KB | Mar 09 20:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How open source could help malaria treatment http://ur1.ca/8lk53 #malaria | Mar 09 20:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Government Admits It Has Seized Hundreds Of Domains Registered Outside The US - http://bit.ly/zPUKLL has been doing it for years | Mar 09 20:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Right, I've updated to !identicurse 0.9 - now I'm just waiting for an update to !hotot to solve mentions | Mar 09 20:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Anonymous just defaced http://t.co/Ckj1Tw84 for Australian government failure to support Australians overseas http://t.co/YxxZnC1w | Mar 09 20:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Here is a video of a person in a Darth Vader mask and cape, and a Utilikilt, riding a unicycle, playing Star Wars musi... http://b1t.it/a2M7 | Mar 09 20:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Police Censor Google, Facebook and 8,000 Other Sites by Accident http://ur1.ca/8h8kp #censorship is a child predator | Mar 09 20:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Police Censor Google, Facebook and 8,000 Other Sites by Accident | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 44.94 KB | Mar 09 20:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Our comment: We do not condemn such protest actions provided they do no harm. They are an expression of public sentiment. | Mar 09 20:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "The Wikimedia Foundation announced the transfer of our domain names portfolio from GoDaddy to MarkMonit... http://b1t.it/a2Nq | Mar 09 20:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Monsanto's #Roundup Ravaging Butterfly Populations, Study Shows | Truthout http://goo.gl/uadFI #gmo | Mar 09 20:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] http://ur1.ca/8lki6 http://ur1.ca/8lki7 | Mar 09 20:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Workshop - Using Open Data: policy modeling, citizen empowerment, data journalism http://ow.ly/1hVtne | Mar 09 20:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Game of Thrones Blu-ray price drops by 50% - The Oatmeal .::. Size~: 17.87 KB | Mar 09 20:35 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/09/monsanto-corn-idUSL2E8E9ASB20120309 | Mar 09 20:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: U.S. scientists warn EPA on Monsanto corn rootworm | Reuters .::. Size~: 95.46 KB | Mar 09 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | root worms gain resistance to Monsanto's frankencorn | Mar 09 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | perhaps Monsanto can simply sue the worms | Mar 09 20:42 |
| schestowitz | Moneysanto | Mar 09 20:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I don't think a worm can sue another worm | Mar 09 20:43 |
| schestowitz | unless they find a worm jury and judge | Mar 09 20:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @AKrzyzanowska: Discussed the EU #CEF proposal with representatives of Member States. Nobody disagrees http://p.ost.im/p/eCAENm | Mar 09 20:43 | |
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| schestowitz | the worms from NJ (Monsanto) should be sent to lie down below with the worm | Mar 09 20:44 |
| MinceR | shai-hulud? | Mar 09 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | lol wot? | Mar 09 20:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] sometimes I really miss the #openmoko days, working on really exciting stuff in a great team in #taiwan. Sad that those days are over :/ | Mar 09 20:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] RT @acid RT @dyfustic: Wird Ritalin eigentlich aus diesen Serverschränken gewonnen? | Mar 09 20:55 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: it's a kind of worm | Mar 09 20:55 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Shai-hulud | Mar 09 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | Hi scientes | Mar 09 21:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Most popular this week: @Raspberry_Pi, Allwinner, and CuBox in the Linux hardware race to tiniest and cheapest | http://red.ht/z9LxeC | Mar 09 21:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] WHY WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE INTERNET! #SOPA #PIPA #ACTA #RIAA #MPAA #TPP #DMCA #ALLCAPS | Mar 09 21:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Pro-infringement lawyers smear Canadian Bar Association (CBA) http://ur1.ca/8ll59 /via @russellmcormond !C11 !CDNpoli !copyright !Canada | Mar 09 21:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @parlementum Reading 4 trip home: The Standard Book of Bidding (intro by Somerset Maugham!) and Inconstant Moon by @laurelrusswurm ツ | Mar 09 21:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pilger: The War against WikiLeaks in Sweden http://t.co/fCSq7TZZ #svpol | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @svenhoutmeyers Ach verdorie. Ik stuur hem vanavond nog eens door anders. | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken jabaja | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @sandb Thanks :) | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @alper: @openov Onderzoek wijst uit dat real-time ov-informatie meer reizigers oplevert: http://t.co/aPIhfu5h (Duh!) | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Telenet blijkbaar ben ik niet de enige. Verschrikkelijk frustrerend als je 's nachts echts iets moet a http://ur1. ... | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Miel_vds @frefre - beperkte docs staan voorlopig op de wiki: http://t.co/f1WMXXi0 | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @kodel: @pietercolpaert Heb ik ook al opgemerkt, steeds 's nachts. Gebeurt niet altijd. Denk dat het http://ur1. ... | Mar 09 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @hconstandt: Extra 'open data' in Gent http://ur1.ca/8ll9l via @datanews_nl @BartRosseau @pietercolp http://ur1. ... | Mar 09 21:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Proficiat vrouw! | Mar 09 21:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez vrouwendag! | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Back in Belgium. Time to catch up | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Meeting on @AppsForGhent with @BartRosseau - then off to #CeBIT | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @duoweb Thanks, zal dat volgende keer testen! | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Kan jij @appsforghent even aanhalen tijdens een VOP-sessie? | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez mieters | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Telenet neen, is al 2e keer in 2 weken tijd dat ik geen IP adres meer krijg via DHCP om 1:30 's nachts http://ur1. ... | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @nnuytten: @pietercolpaert @Telenet Is mij ook al een tweetal keer overkomen, vergelijkbaar tijdstip. | Mar 09 21:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz csolisr In that case it's not "freedom compliant" Personally, I think an octogenarian musician trying !CC by-sa-nc is bloody awesome | Mar 09 21:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens | Mar 09 21:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @thistleweb WHY WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE INTERNET! #SOPA #PIPA !ACTA #RIAA #MPAA #TPP #DMCA !C11 #ALLCAPS | Mar 09 21:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Keep the pressure on: tell @PayPal that it shouldn't censor our reading choices. https://eff.org/r.1Uy #freespeech | Mar 09 21:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] NATO... Coercing countries all around the world into compliance since 1949. | Mar 09 21:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon @satipera (I'm on my way back offline so !tzaf as well :) | Mar 09 21:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Take Action | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 20.04 KB | Mar 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | this is retarded | Mar 09 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=86219 | Mar 09 21:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Screen goes blank while all the powersaving is turned off • KDE Community Forums .::. Size~: 64.08 KB | Mar 09 21:43 |
| scientes_ | anybody here know much about X? | Mar 09 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | KDE ignores your preferences in Power Management and blanks the screen anyway unless you disable PowerDevil | Mar 09 21:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @eff Though @PayPal asked, SMASHWORDS is choosing to CENSOR ... NO corporation should censor human choice. https://eff.org/r.1Uy #freespeech | Mar 09 21:43 | |
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| scientes_ | i just compiled a the new udl-dri driver | Mar 09 21:44 |
| scientes_ | and am trying to get X up on it | Mar 09 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | I need to disable screen blanking because FGLRX does not properly resume from that | Mar 09 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | so if it puts the monitor to sleep, I can't get it back | Mar 09 21:44 |
| scientes_ | hmmm, that works on this computer | Mar 09 21:44 |
| scientes_ | however, the screen-saver locks the computer up | Mar 09 21:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Increasingly annoyed: SMASHWORDS has chosen to comply with PayPal and censor because SMASHWORDS can't be bothered to switch 2 diff service | Mar 09 21:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk apparently ... a few bucks a year is a small price to pay :) | Mar 09 21:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Best Disk Cloning App for Linux http://ur1.ca/8llgo #gnu #linux | Mar 09 21:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @dai Bigger Brother: Total surveillance comes to UK RussiaToday http://ur1.ca/8llf1 #privacy | Mar 09 21:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I learned on mobileread that that provision has been in the PayPal TOS for years (longer than smashwords has existed I believe) | Mar 09 21:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] / fs | Mar 09 21:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP TouchPad Triple Boots Android, WebOS, and ArchLInux http://ur1.ca/8llhu #android #webos | Mar 09 21:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think it's stupid to assume that a desktop user wants their monitor to shut off automatically | Mar 09 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | if I'm going to be away for a while, I'll turn it off | Mar 09 21:57 |
| DaemonFC | usually what happens when it does it automatically is that I come back and can't make my monitor wake up | Mar 09 21:57 |
| Formic_ | ati driver bug ;) | Mar 09 22:01 |
| schestowitz | cubefc1: Formic_: XFaCE http://mrpogson.com/2012/03/09/bill-to-eliminate-the-long-firearms-registry-referred-to-committee-of-the-senate/ | Mar 09 22:01 |
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| DaemonFC | Formic_: Yes and no | Mar 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Nvidia's proprietary drivers have the same problems once in a while | Mar 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | restoring the video state with userspace mode setting has never been reliable | Mar 09 22:02 |
| scientes_ | DaemonFC, you realize you are whining about PROPRITARY drivers, right? | Mar 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | but also older Intel drivers | Mar 09 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | which still use userspace mode setting | Mar 09 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | because Intel doesn't want to update them | Mar 09 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I'd wager a bet that if it wan't for Intel and all their legacy crap, the free software video driver stack would be less than half the size it is | Mar 09 22:03 |
| MinceR | scientes_: according to him, proprietary drivers are a-ok as long as they're from amd :> | Mar 09 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | the kernel and Mesa and X are carrying around a lot of baggage where it's a legacy item that old Intel shit still uses because they don't want to properly support old hardware....or | Mar 09 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | something that Intel fucking reinvented specifically for their hardware so that it would either be 2% faster than the standard method | Mar 09 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | or so that it wouldn't benefit anyone but them | Mar 09 22:05 |
| scientes_ | whats a lightweight display manager that will work on a really small screen? | Mar 09 22:05 |
| scientes_ | like 800x480 | Mar 09 22:05 |
| MinceR | GPE has a display manager, but i couldn't find out how to install it on Debian | Mar 09 22:06 |
| MinceR | it works even on 320x320, though, i think | Mar 09 22:06 |
| scientes_ | cause lightdm and gdm are just totally borking ATM | Mar 09 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of the stupid shit that Linux does is because of Intel | Mar 09 22:06 |
| scientes_ | well with gdm at least its cause its xinerama | Mar 09 22:06 |
| scientes_ | i really am trying to get multiseat up | Mar 09 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | if you look hard enough a lot of it leads right back to them | Mar 09 22:06 |
| MinceR | xdm probably works as long as there's room for the two text entry fields | Mar 09 22:06 |
| scientes_ | i got the new displaylink driver but i cant get x to post to it | Mar 09 22:06 |
| scientes_ | however hotplugging it works which is awesome | Mar 09 22:06 |
| MinceR | gdm might be dependent on how you configure it | Mar 09 22:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @silner RD @dai Bigger Brother: Total surveillance comes to UK RussiaToday http://ur1.ca/8llf1 #privacy | Mar 09 22:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | if anything Intel does to Linux benefits anyone else it's because they couldn't keep it all to themselves | Mar 09 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | they're a bunch of boner biting bastards | Mar 09 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 22:08 |
| MinceR | good thing amd are saints, then | Mar 09 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | and more often, it's the fallout from something stupid or malicious that Intel has done that affects non-Intel users | Mar 09 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple admits to two key allegations in ebook price fixing case http://ping.fm/OAgLe | Mar 09 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] EFF: Ubuntu 12.04 will bring OS-level privacy options http://ur1.ca/8llnl | Mar 09 22:10 | |
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| DaemonFC | anyway, I just had some of my life drained out investigating problems caused by KDE's power management doing the opposite of what I told it to | Mar 09 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason I have to care what FGLRX does on resuming the monitor from sleep mode is because KDE put the monitor to sleep after I told it not to | Mar 09 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | and as usual, it turns out there's like 12 different places you need to set one preference | Mar 09 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Mar 09 22:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Private bond holders invest in a bankrupt country and only loose half their investment. The hoi polloi will pay the elites bills as usual. | Mar 09 22:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Twitter’s Financials Leaked, And They’re Losing Money http://j.mp/wHAnNS | Mar 09 22:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | why are there so many places to set each particular preference? | Mar 09 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | you tell KDE what to do with magnet links, and then click on one in Firefox | Mar 09 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | and surprise, Firefox doesn't respect that setting | Mar 09 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | so you need to set it there too | Mar 09 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | then you click on an email in Thunderbird, which asks you how to open an http link | Mar 09 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | because you know, you set your default browser in the 5-6 different places you have to already, but Thunderbird is special | Mar 09 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | "special" | Mar 09 22:16 |
| MinceR | i think you know the answer to that question | Mar 09 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | you already fucking told KDE and XDG what to do just for shits and giggles | Mar 09 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 09 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | and Thunderbird, OMG, it can't just LOOK at what KDE is set to do | Mar 09 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | or what XDG is going to do | Mar 09 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | or what Debian's alternatives is set to do | Mar 09 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | it asks you for the fourth time what an http link should open in | Mar 09 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | and even if it did look around, you could have 5 different default web browsers because it's Linux | Mar 09 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Mar 09 22:18 |
| MinceR | the kernel has nothing to do with it | Mar 09 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Freedesktop.org is worthless | Mar 09 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | fucking worthless | Mar 09 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | it's a dumping ground for whoever has a brain fart to air out | Mar 09 22:19 |
| MinceR | because people aren't forbidden from making applications that are independent of desktop environments and XDG? | Mar 09 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Happy Friday! Today & tomorrow are your last chances to celebrate #openeducationwk! http://ur1.ca/8g792 #OER | Mar 09 22:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Time has not been kind to Jean Claude Van Dam | Mar 09 22:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: I happen to think software should ignore XDG | Mar 09 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | because it's always wrong anyway | Mar 09 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | and just do what your desktop environment would do | Mar 09 22:21 |
| MinceR | DEs tend to build on top of XDG, afaik | Mar 09 22:21 |
| MinceR | but i like to set per-application settings anyway | Mar 09 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | if something can't be trusted and you know it, you should look elsewhere | Mar 09 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | that's one of the things that pisses me off about Chrome | Mar 09 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | if it doesn't know what to do with something it just calls xdg | Mar 09 22:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The WorldForge Project http://goo.gl/3aeAD #games #floss | Mar 09 22:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: for things like how to open a torrent | Mar 09 22:26 |
| Formic_ | schestowitz - im a fan of guns | Mar 09 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | chances are I want Firefox and Chrome to do the same thing | Mar 09 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | I should set it in one place and every application should look there and do what I said | Mar 09 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | even Windows manages to get that one, unfortunately every application you install that can handle a file type has a tendency to steal it even if that's not what you wanted | Mar 09 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 22:27 |
| Formic_ | schestowitz - John Nicols thinks everyone should have the right to bear nuclear arms | Mar 09 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | but KDE does that too | Mar 09 22:27 |
| Formic_ | schestowitz - he said so in Bowling for Columbine | Mar 09 22:27 |
| MinceR | i should have the right to arm nuclear bears! | Mar 09 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29 | Mar 09 22:28 |
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| DaemonFC | I want one of those | Mar 09 22:28 |
| MinceR | Formic_: why does it matter? anyone who can afford nuclear devices will have them, regardless of what they're told | Mar 09 22:29 |
| MinceR | if they want to, that is | Mar 09 22:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @CareNews: Niger creates desert park bigger than Hungary http://t.co/bQdpWAAd | Mar 09 22:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GOOD NEWS! Niger creates desert park bigger than Hungary - Care2 News Network .::. Size~: 85.12 KB | Mar 09 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | !google castle bravo | Mar 09 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Castle Bravo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo | Mar 09 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Operation Castle | http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Castle.html | Mar 09 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Castle Bravo Nuclear Test - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dfd1IFjBNNVo | Mar 09 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Castle Bravo - huge thermonuclear Explosion - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DR5_9Gi7w19Y | Mar 09 22:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] MagnetUri - Public #rTorrent Community Wiki http://goo.gl/0g8SW nice! #p2p #flosstools | Mar 09 22:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: MagnetUri - Public rTorrent Community Wiki .::. Size~: 20.39 KB | Mar 09 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | the test area is still uninhabitable | Mar 09 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like a tropical paradise until you get to the fact that even the coconuts are radioactive | Mar 09 22:33 |
| Formic_ | Mincer - its illegal for most citizens of UN countries | Mar 09 22:33 |
| Formic_ | probably all | Mar 09 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Watching the Secret Policeman's Ball 2012 #amnestyinternational #funny | Mar 09 22:33 | |
| MinceR | Formic_: and what does that matter? | Mar 09 22:33 |
| MinceR | if a state wants to have them and can obtain them, they will | Mar 09 22:34 |
| Formic_ | the second you start shopping you get picked up | Mar 09 22:34 |
| MinceR | there will be a lot of drama, but in the end they'll have them and nobody will dare call them on it, because they have them | Mar 09 22:34 |
| MinceR | yes, you get picked up. and then what? | Mar 09 22:34 |
| Formic_ | you're talking about random countries | Mar 09 22:34 |
| Formic_ | John Nicols literally means everyone | Mar 09 22:34 |
| Formic_ | lol | Mar 09 22:35 |
| Formic_ | like me and you | Mar 09 22:35 |
| MinceR | why are countries special? | Mar 09 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | well, there was one case where a teenager was building a dirty bomb and the FBI caught onto it because he was buying hundreds of smoke detectors | Mar 09 22:35 |
| MinceR | it's just a matter of wealth | Mar 09 22:35 |
| MinceR | people are buying countries anyway | Mar 09 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | he ended up getting cancer from exposure | Mar 09 22:35 |
| Formic_ | so you're saying Bill Gates should be able to build nuclear arms? | Mar 09 22:35 |
| MinceR | no | Mar 09 22:35 |
| MinceR | i'm saying that a law saying that he can't isn't going to stop him | Mar 09 22:35 |
| MinceR | a war on bill gates might, and that's what we should do | Mar 09 22:36 |
| Formic_ | almost every secret service agency in the world would pick up people who buy certain combinations of what you need | Mar 09 22:36 |
| MinceR | how do you know they aren't already doing it? | Mar 09 22:36 |
| Formic_ | i'm pretty sure they do | Mar 09 22:36 |
| Formic_ | it's not something they would leak to the press | Mar 09 22:37 |
| Formic_ | lol | Mar 09 22:37 |
| Formic_ | 'guy in his backyard builds nuclear arms out of used smoke detectors' | Mar 09 22:37 |
| Formic_ | then you got every tom dick and jane doing it | Mar 09 22:37 |
| MinceR | i don't see why it would be ethical to forbid individuals something while allowing states to do it | Mar 09 22:37 |
| Formic_ | other states are allowed to treat people like slaves | Mar 09 22:38 |
| Formic_ | literal slaves | Mar 09 22:38 |
| Formic_ | not economical | Mar 09 22:38 |
| MinceR | i know | Mar 09 22:38 |
| Formic_ | actually | Mar 09 22:38 |
| Formic_ | a brampton mp did that | Mar 09 22:39 |
| Formic_ | http://mitchieville.com/2009/05/05/ruby-dhalla-family-may-have-kept-slaves/ | Mar 09 22:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mitchieville » Blog Archive » Ruby Dhalla & Family May Have Kept Slaves .::. Size~: 34.1 KB | Mar 09 22:39 |
| *Formic_ slaps Ruby on the wrist | Mar 09 22:40 | |
| Formic_ | thats your punishment | Mar 09 22:40 |
| Formic_ | don't do it again or it's a fine | Mar 09 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "finally a cool product i wont buy " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1392490 | Mar 09 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 09 22:42 |
| scientes_ | hahah | Mar 09 22:42 |
| scientes_ | also ^ bot problems | Mar 09 22:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wander the desert in Journey, a game for explorers http://identi.ca/url/67796359 | Mar 09 22:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Cancer is even more complicated than we thought http://identi.ca/url/67796366 !science | Mar 09 22:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The case for dolphin rights http://identi.ca/url/67796368 !science | Mar 09 22:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fracking earthquakes http://identi.ca/url/67796372 !science | Mar 09 22:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wander the desert in Journey, a game for explorers - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 18.73 KB | Mar 09 22:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Cancer is even more complicated than we thought - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 36.72 KB | Mar 09 22:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The case for dolphin rights - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 37.05 KB | Mar 09 22:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fracking earthquakes - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 35.94 KB | Mar 09 22:44 |
| Formic_ | Cancer is even more complicated than we thought | Mar 09 22:46 |
| Formic_ | yeah, now I got some uncurable genetically engineered AIDS | Mar 09 22:47 |
| Formic_ | http://xkcd.com/938/ | Mar 09 22:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: xkcd: T-Cells .::. Size~: 9.74 KB | Mar 09 22:47 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 09 22:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1400094 | Mar 09 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 09 22:51 |
| schestowitz | "that's my problem with the social networking thing. they love their trends man. deep down they are not feeling anything. they are comfortable behind their computers. it's easy to shout from that position " | Mar 09 22:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] All those people who died before the vocoder are so fortunate. #music | Mar 09 22:52 | |
| MinceR | vocoder ftw | Mar 09 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Eric Joyce fined £3,000 for assault in House of Commons bar http://gu.com/p/36434 that'll be another £4,000 on the expenses then | Mar 09 22:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Eric Joyce fined £3,000 for assault in House of Commons bar | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 154.62 KB | Mar 09 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | Formic_: there's mass slavery, forced abortions, and human trafficking for prostitution going on in some US territories | Mar 09 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | you just don't typically hear about it | Mar 09 23:05 |
| Formic_ | sounded like china till the end there | Mar 09 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | Tom DeLay was trying to keep it going because some of the people running that were bribing him to suppress Congressional investigation into it | Mar 09 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | finally after the various scandals associated with him, Congress asserted that the federal minimum wage applied to the Mariana Islands, among other steps taken to reign in the mass corruption going on there | Mar 09 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | Formic_: The legitimate government of China or the PRC? | Mar 09 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 09 23:36 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> can someone tell me what i need to put in for BusIDf for this device according to this patch? | Mar 09 23:37 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> Bus 001 Device 040: ID 17e9:401a Newnham Research | Mar 09 23:37 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2012-February/019279.html | Mar 09 23:37 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> + len = snprintf(master->unique, master->unique_len, | Mar 09 23:37 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> + "usb:%s", dev_name(&dev->usbdev->dev)); | Mar 09 23:37 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> + sprintf(dev->devname, "%s@%s", udriver->name, | Mar 09 23:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [PATCH 1/5] drm/usb: add a busid implementation .::. Size~: 4.2 KB | Mar 09 23:37 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> + master->unique); | Mar 09 23:37 |
| scientes_ | <scientes_> BusID "USB:17e9@401a" isn't working | Mar 09 23:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/3/2012: Linux Mint 12 LXDE is Out, Nokia Rushes Back to Linux-based Operating System http://ur1.ca/8lmd8 #techrights | Mar 09 23:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is a good thing to admit mistakes. Secret Policeman's ball 2012 was shite. | Mar 09 23:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Links 9/3/2012: Linux Mint 12 LXDE is Out, Nokia Rushes Back to Linux-based Operating System | Techrights .::. Size~: 126.29 KB | Mar 09 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista8 is an exercise in how quickly the Windows franchise can be killed off http://ur1.ca/8lmj3 worse than Vista | Mar 09 23:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft goes on a charm offensive - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 71.3 KB | Mar 09 23:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @chicagonpg: If you are not awake now there is no hope for you......Obama signs anti-protest Trespass Bill http://bit.ly/yTyb6h | Mar 09 23:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Obama signs anti-protest Trespass Bill — RT .::. Size~: 55.06 KB | Mar 09 23:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I love you clever FLOSS people please keep on doing what you are !Tzaf | Mar 09 23:55 | |
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