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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] World wide rallies scheduled for Assange Supreme Court verdict | WLC http://t.co/h6J9y7lv #fowlMar 20 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2012-03-18 Worldwide Rallies after Assange SC Verdict | WL Central .::. Size~: 19.51 KBMar 20 00:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] US government buries WikiLeaks defense with 3 million pages of "evidence" http://t.co/UfOPaGOrMar 20 00:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2012-03-15 Full Transcript  #Manning Motion Hearing Fort Meade, MD March 15, 2012 Day One | WL Central .::. Size~: 67.9 KBMar 20 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Nerd Funny! http://ur1.ca/8qhz3 /cc @DennisMungaiMar 20 00:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 5 More Survival Blogs You Should Be Reading http://goo.gl/ahQwb #bushcraft #preppersMar 20 00:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How To Make a Humble Hobo Stove http://goo.gl/6CY8o #bushcraftMar 20 00:34
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Guest36004helloMar 20 00:36
Guest36004software freedom is important to me Mar 20 00:37
sebsebsebGuest36004: and me :)Mar 20 00:37
Guest36004but what good is it if they steal your softwareMar 20 00:37
schestowitzhow can s/w be stolen?Mar 20 00:39
Guest36004lots of waysMar 20 00:39
DaemonFCschestowitz: Software can be stolen by walking into the store and stealing a box I guessMar 20 00:39
Guest36004cd laying on desk someone takes itMar 20 00:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: naaa...Mar 20 00:40
schestowitzit's a copyMar 20 00:40
schestowitzthey can make a million more in a secondMar 20 00:40
schestowitzthat's stealkigna box with a cdMar 20 00:40
Guest36004well if its all you got what to do thenMar 20 00:40
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Guest36004my ubuntu 11.10 was stolen and cloned as garbage i cant use and i cant get what i want nowMar 20 00:41
formic_lolMar 20 00:41
formic_u bun to?Mar 20 00:41
DaemonFCthe Washington Post is now claiming on every page that quoting part of their articles is "stealing" and "punishable by law"Mar 20 00:42
formic_unless its fair useMar 20 00:42
DaemonFCwell, it's civil copyright violation at the very mostMar 20 00:42
DaemonFCwhich is not theftMar 20 00:43
Guest36004they say so much its hard not to do it inevertantlyMar 20 00:43
DaemonFCand the only punishment that could be doled out is "monetary damages", although those can be far in excess of the fair value of the content as "punitive" damagesMar 20 00:43
Guest36004why cant i get the software i desireMar 20 00:43
DaemonFCthe jury also might award "actual damages" if they can come up with what it would have cost to license the contentMar 20 00:44
DaemonFCand there's plenty of fair use exceptions to copyright lawMar 20 00:44
DaemonFCobviously copypasting the entire article is not one of themMar 20 00:44
Guest36004daemonfc  are you botMar 20 00:44
DaemonFCcopying a paragraph or two for rebuttal or criticism is fair useMar 20 00:44
Guest36004DaemonFC  are you daemonMar 20 00:46
DaemonFCwhat gets me is how Microsoft and Apple and other proprietary software companies try to control what people say about them by claiming copyright on screenshots of their softwareMar 20 00:47
Guest36004$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is what they are all about  especially windowsMar 20 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Spot The Difference Between These Two #Gold Holdings Charts | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/5j0QUMar 20 00:49
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Guest36004hey who owns freenodeMar 20 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Julian vs. Julia | Crikey http://t.co/c3RwcYKfMar 20 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Important Message From JWR: The #FBI's Cookie Caper and the #VPN Imperative - SurvivalBlog.com http://goo.gl/qH3Qe #preppers #freedomtoolsMar 20 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Julian versus Julia | The Poll Bludger .::. Size~: 27.26 KBMar 20 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Important Message From JWR: The FBI's Cookie Caper and the VPN Imperative - SurvivalBlog.com .::. Size~: 41.12 KBMar 20 00:59
DaemonFChttp://www.vudu.com/?povid=cat14503-env172199-module031012-lLinkMMVUDUMar 20 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VUDU - Rent, buy & watch HD movies and TV shows on-demand .::. Size~: 16.16 KBMar 20 01:10
DaemonFChehMar 20 01:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] This day in WikiLeaks (news review) http://t.co/7eWxHSd8Mar 20 01:10
DaemonFCdisc to digitalMar 20 01:10
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DaemonFCtime to ask your friends if you can borrow a stack of their DVDs to take to Walmart I guessMar 20 01:11
DaemonFCVUDU is crapMar 20 01:11
DaemonFCthey're actually more expensive than DirecTV Cinema and their movies are not very newMar 20 01:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Obama's role in imprisonment of journalist @ggreenwald http://t.co/mHN1bS4U http://t.co/qC91ezTpMar 20 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-02-12 Obama overrules Amnesty International & President of Yemen, Journalist remains imprisoned | WL Central .::. Size~: 21.6 KBMar 20 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011-02-01 Yemen's Day of Rage and Abdul Ilah Shayi | WL Central .::. Size~: 18.26 KBMar 20 01:32
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orionsonofnetunheyMar 20 01:34
formic_heyMar 20 01:34
orionsonofnetunwhat is acceptable talk hereMar 20 01:34
formic_anything is acceptableMar 20 01:34
orionsonofnetunloolMar 20 01:35
orionsonofnetunlolMar 20 01:35
orionsonofnetunriightMar 20 01:35
orionsonofnetunare we all stupid here????Mar 20 01:35
formic_just dont attack peopleMar 20 01:35
orionsonofnetunor just meMar 20 01:36
formic_just those running ubuntu on i686Mar 20 01:36
orionsonofnetunwhat is i686Mar 20 01:36
formic_enough saidMar 20 01:36
formic_u bun to?Mar 20 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AnonymousIRC: To be honest, it's hard to cry slogans while the U.S. president can now kill at will, and nobody even gives a fuck. We ...Mar 20 01:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] San Jose Federal Judge Lifts #Twitter Ban On #Anonymous 14 “Operation Avenge Assange” #PayPal protest http://t.co/VZ0zb6cJMar 20 01:42
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orionsonofnetunhey where to find #html opsMar 20 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] !sr @support spammer mozzy72 UID628565 now #silenced.Mar 20 01:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Does anyone else find it interesting that #Kony2012 calls on the US to send military support to Uganda months after it was ...Mar 20 01:50
formic_prurigro - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17183890Mar 20 01:52
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formic_Did someone say Fringe?Mar 20 01:52
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prurigrohaha, except she'd be... choosing to do thisMar 20 01:59
DaemonFCGNOME is way ahead of the curveMar 20 02:03
DaemonFCprurigro: How are you enjoying Web 3.4?Mar 20 02:04
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 02:04
formic_I like it better in the other universeMar 20 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freemjd/@freemjd] Wow, 30 years since Adric copped it. Guess we should stop celebrating now. Nah, just a little more... !DrWhoMar 20 02:07
prurigroDaemonFC, lol, is Web 3.4 what we're calling gnome now?Mar 20 02:22
DaemonFCthey renamed Epiphany to WebMar 20 02:24
DaemonFCand it carries the same version as GNOMEMar 20 02:24
DaemonFCso Web 3.4 will be out any day nowMar 20 02:24
XFaCEprurigro: That's what I called Windows 98Mar 20 02:24
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 02:24
XFaCEOr Microsoft Internet Explorer 98Mar 20 02:24
prurigroahh-- I use epiphany to specifically browse hyperboriaMar 20 02:25
DaemonFCGNOME 1 and Windows 98 looked similarMar 20 02:25
prurigrosimply because it was the browser I didn't use for anything elseMar 20 02:25
DaemonFCespecially Nautilus vs. Windows ExplorerMar 20 02:25
XFaCEDaemonFC: big difference thoughMar 20 02:25
XFaCEGNOME wasn't stupid enough to make a web browser a key component Mar 20 02:25
DaemonFCwell, they didMar 20 02:26
XFaCE*integrated frameworkMar 20 02:26
DaemonFCEpiphany has been their official web browser for years nowMar 20 02:26
XFaCEDaemonFC: I mean you don't need epiphany to run Nautalus :)Mar 20 02:26
DaemonFCit's just that every distribution removes it and puts in Firefox (with the exception of Debian)Mar 20 02:26
XFaCEstill a very different situation to IEMar 20 02:28
DaemonFCIE and Windows Explorer have been separated again since Windows XP SP2Mar 20 02:30
XFaCEerr noMar 20 02:30
prurigroyea, DaemonFC, you're talking about them considering something part of their suite and developing it with the same standardsMar 20 02:30
DaemonFCbecause what they had been doing was an obvious security hazardMar 20 02:30
prurigroIE was embedded in the environmentMar 20 02:30
DaemonFCyou used to be able to browse the file system with IEMar 20 02:30
prurigropacman -Rs epiphany and its goneMar 20 02:30
XFaCEDaemonFC: Vista is when they "separated it"Mar 20 02:30
DaemonFCor browse the web with Windows ExplorerMar 20 02:30
DaemonFCnoMar 20 02:30
XFaCEDaemonFC: Though they still share resources to this dayMar 20 02:31
DaemonFCthat was disabled in XP SP2Mar 20 02:31
XFaCEDaemonFC: I think you are confusing IEMar 20 02:31
XFaCE7Mar 20 02:31
XFaCE7Ie7Mar 20 02:31
DaemonFCnoMar 20 02:31
DaemonFCXP SP2Mar 20 02:31
XFaCEsp2 did nothing on the "integration" frontMar 20 02:31
DaemonFCstarting from there, putting an internet address into the location bar in Windows Explorer would pop up the default web browserMar 20 02:31
DaemonFCand forward the link to thatMar 20 02:31
XFaCEnope, that happened with ie7Mar 20 02:32
DaemonFCXP SP2Mar 20 02:32
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 02:32
XFaCEI've used XP SP3 machines that could still be browsed through windows explorerMar 20 02:32
XFaCEtrust be, sp2 had nothing to do with thatMar 20 02:32
DaemonFCwell, that's what it did when I installed SP2Mar 20 02:33
XFaCEMore likely you also installed ie7/8Mar 20 02:33
XFaCEI discovered this fact once when I accidentally registered new IE dlls in XP and the address bar->default browser capability was enabledMar 20 02:33
XFaCELater learning this was intentional when ie7/8 is installedMar 20 02:34
DaemonFCyeah, I always kept IE up to date even though I didn't use itMar 20 02:34
XFaCEThat would be the source thenMar 20 02:34
XFaCEOf course, Ie7 made XP slower because of the additional non-shared crap that would have to be loaded to maintain the speed illusion that ie4+ hadMar 20 02:35
DaemonFCit would be nice if Kubuntu got rid of KmailMar 20 02:35
DaemonFCwhat a terrible email clientMar 20 02:35
DaemonFC:PMar 20 02:35
DaemonFCthey already got rid of KonquerorMar 20 02:36
XFaCEI assume there's a successor with a real name?Mar 20 02:36
formic_noMar 20 02:36
formic_hes talking about kubuntuMar 20 02:36
XFaCEyeah, I knowMar 20 02:36
DaemonFCI use ThunderbirdMar 20 02:36
DaemonFCKmail is impossible to useMar 20 02:36
formic_they use thunderbloatMar 20 02:36
XFaCEDaemonFC: I mean with all the KDE projects moving to differnet names, surely kmail is one of them?Mar 20 02:37
formic_noMar 20 02:37
DaemonFCnoMar 20 02:37
formic_kmail stays kmailMar 20 02:37
DaemonFCthey just had a "major new release"Mar 20 02:37
DaemonFCwhich is still unusableMar 20 02:37
formic_they didnt all move to different namesMar 20 02:37
formic_koffice forkedMar 20 02:37
XFaCEkonqueror -> rekonqMar 20 02:37
formic_nopeMar 20 02:37
XFaCEyesMar 20 02:38
formic_rekonq has nothing to do with the KDE projectMar 20 02:38
DaemonFCyes it doesMar 20 02:38
XFaCE"rekonq is a lightweight, QtWebKit-based web browser developed inside the free software project KDE."Mar 20 02:38
DaemonFCit's in ExtragearMar 20 02:38
XFaCEDaemonFC: I assume that is the equivalent to XFCE goodies?Mar 20 02:38
formic_all that means is that it uses kdelibsMar 20 02:39
DaemonFCExtragear is software that is officially part of KDE but has its own release cycle outside of KDE'sMar 20 02:39
DaemonFCso Amarok for exampleMar 20 02:39
DaemonFCit's official KDE softwareMar 20 02:39
DaemonFCbut its version is not tied to a particular version of KDEMar 20 02:39
formic_rekonq is barely maintainedMar 20 02:39
XFaCELike how Midori is officially XFCE softwareMar 20 02:39
DaemonFCKDEPIM is Extragear tooMar 20 02:39
DaemonFCand so is KOffice.CalligraMar 20 02:39
DaemonFC /Mar 20 02:40
XFaCEformic_: "0.9[3]Mar 20 02:40
XFaCE / March 1, 2012; 17 days ago"Mar 20 02:40
XFaCEreally?Mar 20 02:40
formic_yesMar 20 02:40
formic_17 days ago?Mar 20 02:40
formic_pffftMar 20 02:40
DaemonFCyeahMar 20 02:40
XFaCEerrMar 20 02:40
DaemonFCRekonq is actively developedMar 20 02:40
formic_its not as actively developed as konquererMar 20 02:40
DaemonFCit uses whatever version of qtwebkit it finds on the system thoughMar 20 02:40
DaemonFCso the same version of rekonq can behave and render things differentlyMar 20 02:41
DaemonFCdepending on what version of qtwebkit you haveMar 20 02:41
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 02:41
DaemonFCkonqueror is bordering on abandonwareMar 20 02:41
formic_it doesnt take much to be on extragearMar 20 02:41
DaemonFCit's barely touched except bug fixes and occasional minor featuresMar 20 02:41
formic_just use of kdelibsMar 20 02:41
XFaCEDaemonFC: So are khtml and webkit more or less the same now?Mar 20 02:42
DaemonFCI don't think Konqueror will survive into KDE 5Mar 20 02:42
DaemonFCXFaCE: NoMar 20 02:42
formic_[22:41] <XFaCE> DaemonFC: So are khtml and webkit more or less the same now?Mar 20 02:42
formic_not at allMar 20 02:42
XFaCEend of an eraMar 20 02:42
DaemonFCthere's a khtml is a kpartMar 20 02:42
DaemonFCthere's also a kpart that can hook into Konqueror and allow it to use qtwebkitMar 20 02:42
formic_konquerer uses khtml by defaultMar 20 02:42
DaemonFCRekonq uses qtwebkit directly, without the kpartMar 20 02:42
formic_rekonq is a one man jobMar 20 02:43
DaemonFCrekonqMar 20 02:43
DaemonFCVersion 0.9.0Mar 20 02:43
DaemonFCUsing KDE Development Platform 4.8.1 (4.8.1)Mar 20 02:43
DaemonFCA lightweight Web Browser for KDE based on WebKitMar 20 02:44
DaemonFC(C) 2008-2012 Andrea DiamantiniMar 20 02:44
DaemonFChttp://rekonq.kde.orgMar 20 02:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rekonq | KDE browser WebKit based .::. Size~: 17.71 KBMar 20 02:44
DaemonFCLicense: GNU General Public License Version 3Mar 20 02:44
XFaCEa complete parallel to MidoriMar 20 02:44
DaemonFCsimilarMar 20 02:44
formic_I  don't think you understandMar 20 02:45
DaemonFConly Rekonq uses Qt and QtwebkitMar 20 02:45
DaemonFCMidori uses GTK and GTK WebkitMar 20 02:45
formic_rekonq is some dude in his basement, and konquerer is a full kde projectMar 20 02:45
DaemonFCRekonq is a better browserMar 20 02:45
formic_no its buggy as hell except for the parts that are webkitMar 20 02:45
DaemonFCthere's no excuse for Konqueror being as broken and as outdated as it isMar 20 02:45
formic_If I wanted a badly maintained webkit browser, I'd use the slightly less badly maintained AroraMar 20 02:46
DaemonFCthe only thing that crashes Rekonq lately is a bug in Adobe Flash 11.1 where it misuses glibcMar 20 02:46
DaemonFCthey fixed that bug in 11.2 thoughMar 20 02:46
DaemonFCso I'm using the 11.2 RCMar 20 02:46
formic_oh I know why daemonFC likes rekonqMar 20 02:48
formic_it has that name Opera speed dial junkMar 20 02:49
formic_lameMar 20 02:49
DaemonFChttps://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/changes/src/main.cppMar 20 02:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rekonq - /src/main.cpp - Changes - KDE Projects .::. Size~: 83.56 KBMar 20 02:49
DaemonFCit has more than one authorMar 20 02:49
XFaCEit's also the default browser for kubuntu apparentlyMar 20 02:49
formic_oooooooooooooooooMar 20 02:50
formic_13 revisions in 2011Mar 20 02:50
formic_ACTIVE!Mar 20 02:50
DaemonFCfor that fileMar 20 02:50
formic_That's what I love in a browserMar 20 02:50
DaemonFChttps://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/showMar 20 02:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rekonq - / - Repository - KDE Projects .::. Size~: 30.11 KBMar 20 02:50
DaemonFChttps://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/revisionsMar 20 02:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rekonq - Revisions - KDE Projects .::. Size~: 24.73 KBMar 20 02:51
DaemonFCall revisionsMar 20 02:51
formic_healthyMar 20 02:51
formic_average 2 months old for anythingMar 20 02:51
formic_1 authorMar 20 02:51
DaemonFCit has had dozens of revisions this past week aloneMar 20 02:51
DaemonFCit's very activeMar 20 02:51
DaemonFCand it has about 6 people that work on itMar 20 02:51
formic_his TODO is 2 years out of dateMar 20 02:51
DaemonFCat any given timeMar 20 02:51
formic_6 people is not activeMar 20 02:52
formic_mozilla has hundreds on firefoxMar 20 02:52
DaemonFCit's more commits than Konqueror getsMar 20 02:52
DaemonFCok, sureMar 20 02:52
DaemonFCand they've turned Firefox into a complete messMar 20 02:52
DaemonFCbut don't let that get in the way of your trollingMar 20 02:52
formic_rekonq won't get better unless they remove speed dialMar 20 02:52
XFaCEformic_: so what? So Midori isn't "healthy" either?Mar 20 02:52
formic_I can't use a browser that isn't up to dateMar 20 02:53
formic_too riskyMar 20 02:53
DaemonFCwhat do you mean isn't up to date?Mar 20 02:54
DaemonFCqtwebkit has a stable branchMar 20 02:54
DaemonFCand it is being updatedMar 20 02:54
formic_most of what makes rekonq better is actually the qtwebkit fixes, not stuff rekonq doesMar 20 02:54
DaemonFCwell yeah, qtwebkit is the biggest part of the browserMar 20 02:55
DaemonFCthe browser itself is just a shell around a rendering engineMar 20 02:55
formic_which they don't touchMar 20 02:55
DaemonFCsame as any otherMar 20 02:55
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formic_so you're saying they aren't any different than those fake browsers on windows that use IE?Mar 20 02:55
DaemonFCof course it's different than thatMar 20 02:56
formic_how so?Mar 20 02:56
DaemonFCyou wouldn't say Chrome and Safari are the same thingMar 20 02:56
formic_just a shell around someone elses browsersMar 20 02:56
formic_I would say Chrome and Safari render the sameMar 20 02:56
formic_their 'shells' have different featuresMar 20 02:56
DaemonFCand Internet Explorer's rendering engine is garbageMar 20 02:56
DaemonFCand so is anything stupid enough to use itMar 20 02:56
formic_im not saying they are using IEMar 20 02:57
XFaCEformic_: They might as well beMar 20 02:57
formic_well webkit is far betterMar 20 02:57
XFaCEThey will be vulnerable to the same IE/Windows exploitsMar 20 02:57
formic_but it turns out to be the same thingMar 20 02:57
DaemonFCwell, not reallyMar 20 02:58
formic_shell + webkit = new browserMar 20 02:58
DaemonFCwebkit is open sourceMar 20 02:58
XFaCEwebkit is cross platformMar 20 02:58
formic_just as shell + IE= new browserMar 20 02:58
DaemonFCTrident is just Microsoft's blob with a little documentation on how to embed itMar 20 02:58
formic_you're not understanding the similarity i'm pointing outMar 20 02:58
DaemonFCyou can't fix problems in your browser if your browser uses Microsoft's Trident engineMar 20 02:58
formic_they're just shells, using someone elses rendererMar 20 02:58
DaemonFCbecause you're not even allowed to know how it worksMar 20 02:58
XFaCEformic_: You can't make QTtrident or GTKtridentMar 20 02:59
formic_listen for a secondMar 20 02:59
formic_they are just shellsMar 20 02:59
DaemonFCXFaCE: Actually you couldMar 20 02:59
DaemonFCyou could write a browser in Qt or GTK that embeds IE, but it would only run on WindowsMar 20 02:59
DaemonFCand you wouldn't be allowed to know how the rendering engine you use workedMar 20 02:59
DaemonFCor fix problems in itMar 20 02:59
formic_rekonq, arora, etc, just shells using webkit as a rendererMar 20 02:59
DaemonFCyou'd be in the same boat as all the other IE shells areMar 20 03:00
formic_they don't have to do any of the workMar 20 03:00
formic_daemonfc - how many sites do you have on your speed dialMar 20 03:00
DaemonFCseveralMar 20 03:01
DaemonFCwhy?Mar 20 03:01
formic_then you suckMar 20 03:01
XFaCEWell, the difference is that IE shells are just thatMar 20 03:01
DaemonFCI don't see a problem with the speed dialMar 20 03:01
DaemonFCother than Opera uses it to pimp out advertisersMar 20 03:01
formic_its a web 4.0 thing for noobsMar 20 03:01
DaemonFCRekonq doesn'tMar 20 03:01
XFaCEShells that are embeding Internet ExplorerMar 20 03:01
DaemonFCOpera still is adware, kind ofMar 20 03:02
formic_it doesnt matter what the shell is embedingMar 20 03:02
formic_its still a shellMar 20 03:02
DaemonFCit comes stuffed full of links to people who pay to be in the book marks or the search enginesMar 20 03:02
DaemonFCor the speed dialMar 20 03:02
XFaCEyes it doesMar 20 03:02
formic_no it doesntMar 20 03:02
XFaCEBecause it means the difference between a the effort it takes to utilize a rendering engine on a specific platform in the different situationsMar 20 03:03
DaemonFCOpera is stuffed with sponsored linksMar 20 03:03
formic_rekonq, Show me Andrea Diamantini's contributions to webkitMar 20 03:03
XFaCEAnd embeding another applciationMar 20 03:03
DaemonFCok, they have to do something to get money from itMar 20 03:03
formic_Opera could stop being the devilMar 20 03:03
DaemonFCthat's where the idea for the speed dial came fromMar 20 03:03
DaemonFCso they'd have more places to stuff sponsored crapMar 20 03:04
formic_speed dial is actually what the owner of opera getsMar 20 03:04
DaemonFCyou can delete them though Mar 20 03:04
formic_a dial full of speedMar 20 03:04
XFaCEformic_: why are you so up in arms about that featureMar 20 03:04
formic_"WE AT OPERA SUPPORT WEEEEEEEEEEB STANDARDS!!!"Mar 20 03:04
XFaCEfor all the features to get flustered about in a browser, you single that one out? Really?Mar 20 03:04
formic_yeah xfaceMar 20 03:04
formic_it makes the browser take longer to start upMar 20 03:05
formic_not to mention watching all the speed dial pages loadMar 20 03:05
XFaCEso does setting a graphics heavy page as the home pageMar 20 03:05
formic_my home page is nothingMar 20 03:05
formic_fastest load timeMar 20 03:05
formic_how dare you have preferences other than mine - msbMar 20 03:06
DaemonFCyou can set Opera or Rekonq to do thatMar 20 03:06
DaemonFCFirefox opens up to a page that Google pays them to show youMar 20 03:07
DaemonFCI don't see how that's any betterMar 20 03:07
formic_yeah it is betterMar 20 03:07
formic_Firefox is open sourceMar 20 03:07
formic_opera is evil proprietary bullshitMar 20 03:07
DaemonFCFirefox is open source with a bad upstreamMar 20 03:07
formic_at the end of the day, you can code your own firefox so it doesnt do thatMar 20 03:07
formic_opera, who knows what spyware is in thereMar 20 03:08
DaemonFCMozilla is managing Firefox about like the XFree86 people managed their X11 implementationMar 20 03:08
formic_opera might get paid to use its server load feature to pipe url's to the NSAMar 20 03:08
DaemonFCit was open source but the upstream was so bad that distributions had to maintain hundreds of patches against itMar 20 03:08
DaemonFCand it took years to get new hardware supported in itMar 20 03:09
formic_yeah but you know for sure there wasn't spyware and malicious code in Xfree86Mar 20 03:09
formic_no idea with proprietary junk like operaMar 20 03:09
DaemonFCand in the end it got so bad that X.org forked itMar 20 03:09
DaemonFCbut the fact that it was open source allowed them toMar 20 03:09
formic_we can't fork opera if it gets badMar 20 03:09
formic_prurigro - if your gonna use opera you might as well use skype too eh?Mar 20 03:11
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_by_the_Debian_projectMar 20 03:11
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formic_IceweaselMar 20 03:12
formic_I <3 itMar 20 03:12
formic_fsck trademarksMar 20 03:12
formic_xface - what would you do if Harper's new prisons were used for proprietary software developers?Mar 20 03:13
formic_what would you do?Mar 20 03:13
DaemonFCthey'll be used for political prisonersMar 20 03:13
formic_yeah, anarchistsMar 20 03:13
DaemonFCjust like most prisons in most countries areMar 20 03:13
XFaCEformic_: what the fuck does that even mean?Mar 20 03:14
XFaCEyou mean if proprietary software devs were jailed?Mar 20 03:14
formic_xface - it means, what if Harper's new prisons were being built for laws that made prooprietary software development illegalMar 20 03:14
formic_yeahMar 20 03:14
DaemonFCI've built Firefox beforeMar 20 03:14
formic_would you still be against the prisons?Mar 20 03:15
DaemonFCthe process is pretty uglyMar 20 03:15
XFaCEI would say that that decision was stupidMar 20 03:15
DaemonFCbut building Chromium is simply agonizingMar 20 03:15
XFaCEeven RMS would say that those types of laws would be ridiculousMar 20 03:15
formic_u sure?Mar 20 03:15
XFaCEformic_: yesMar 20 03:15
XFaCEHis philosophy is let GPL software spread and become dominanteMar 20 03:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @gnutek: !linuxlibre 3.3.0 .deb is now available at #FSFLA and FSCorsica.org + Compilation Recipe update at #Libreplanet !Mar 20 03:15
DaemonFCI don't think RMS would approve of sending proprietary software developers to prisonMar 20 03:16
formic_so you wouldnt want people who rob your basic human rights to go to jail?Mar 20 03:16
DaemonFCthe FSF's goal is to replace proprietary software with free and open source alternativesMar 20 03:16
XFaCEformic_: So how's your wife after you gave her a beating?Mar 20 03:17
DaemonFCthe decision to use the replacement is up to the userMar 20 03:17
XFaCEDaemonFC: ExactlyMar 20 03:17
formic_the best way to deal with a dictator (proprietary software devs) is to throw them in prisonMar 20 03:17
XFaCESimply banning proprietary software would drive the practice undergroundMar 20 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] That's #badnews! :-) ♻ @octaviotron: @debiansick segun esa noticia es Ubuntu quien ha lanzado el kernel 3.3 #fail http://goo.gl/baebvMar 20 03:17
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XFaCEformic_: No, the best way is to even out the playing field so they do not have a home field advantageMar 20 03:17
XFaCECase in point, no software patentsMar 20 03:17
DaemonFCI don't really like depending on anything important which is proprietaryMar 20 03:17
XFaCELegitimate, useful, open standardsMar 20 03:18
formic_how about thisMar 20 03:18
DaemonFCI have some proprietary software video gamesMar 20 03:18
DaemonFCI use Flash (under duress)Mar 20 03:18
formic_no software patents, and as a grandfather provision, if you had them, you go to jailMar 20 03:18
formic_Kingston PenMar 20 03:18
formic_with the Hells AngelsMar 20 03:18
XFaCEwell, if you had them in a country that didn't recognize them, then you would be laughed atMar 20 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] wheee!!! :-) ♻ @kokothekoala: #blag seems to be back on its tracks! Repo is ok, people seem motivated. Let's do it!Mar 20 03:19
DaemonFCwe need to end software patents and investigate patent trolling under laws that are already on the booksMar 20 03:19
XFaCEformic_: I believe that proper open software standards would be the best move to make to assist Free software developmentMar 20 03:19
DaemonFCsuch as the RICO ActMar 20 03:19
XFaCEIn the short term, proprietary software isn't going anywayMar 20 03:19
formic_okMar 20 03:19
XFaCEwhereMar 20 03:19
formic_how about thisMar 20 03:19
formic_at a bare minimumMar 20 03:19
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_ActMar 20 03:19
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formic_proprietary software use is banned by government agencies for their internal useMar 20 03:20
XFaCErephrase that in more positive termsMar 20 03:20
formic_sureMar 20 03:20
DaemonFCI think the legal framework to deal with patent trolls already existsMar 20 03:20
XFaCEThat governments should have strict Free software mandateMar 20 03:20
formic_only open source and free software will be allowed to be used by government agenciesMar 20 03:21
DaemonFCand we're just not using it because our government is already bought and paid for by the people doing itMar 20 03:21
prurigroformic_, true that-- I wonder what's worse spyware, I'm guessing skypeMar 20 03:21
prurigroactually yeaMar 20 03:21
XFaCEformic_: At the very least, I would force all documents to be published in an open formatMar 20 03:21
prurigroskype lolMar 20 03:21
XFaCEprurigro: hey again!Mar 20 03:22
formic_xface - an open format not being .docxMar 20 03:22
XFaCEformic_: of courseMar 20 03:22
formic_lolMar 20 03:22
DaemonFCI could see a definite case for using laws designed to counter the mafia against patent troll organizationsMar 20 03:22
formic_microsoft says its openMar 20 03:22
DaemonFClike the MPEG-:AMar 20 03:22
formic_governments might just take its wordMar 20 03:22
DaemonFCNero tried using the RICO Act against the MPEG-LA thoughMar 20 03:22
DaemonFCand the judge threw it outMar 20 03:22
formic_prurigro - skype, do you think Microsoft bought them to bring them into NSA juristiction?Mar 20 03:23
XFaCEDaemonFC: Is MPEG-2 Patent encumbeered?Mar 20 03:23
formic_xface - can we hang developers who make non free firmware?Mar 20 03:24
prurigroformic_, I think it never hurts to have more dirt on the massesMar 20 03:24
formic_broadcom would be first ;)Mar 20 03:24
*prurigro gives voice to DaemonFCMar 20 03:24
*prurigro gives voice to formic_Mar 20 03:24
*prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3Mar 20 03:24
*XFaCE gives voice to sebsebsebMar 20 03:24
*XFaCE gives voice to scientesMar 20 03:24
*XFaCE gives voice to scshuntMar 20 03:24
DaemonFCXFaCE: YesMar 20 03:24
formic_prurigro - before, skype was not an american companyMar 20 03:24
DaemonFCbut half the patents on MPEG-2 have expiredMar 20 03:24
DaemonFCas of January of this yearMar 20 03:25
prurigroformic_, no? what country was it?Mar 20 03:25
DaemonFCthey're pushing hard to get everyone onto MPEG-4 codecs because those are more heavily patentedMar 20 03:25
XFaCEDaemonFC: So there's a double whammy for dVD playback on GNU+LinuxMar 20 03:25
DaemonFCand won't finish expiring until the early 2030sMar 20 03:25
XFaCEDaemonFC: region locks and patents. weeeMar 20 03:25
formic_prurigro - swedenMar 20 03:25
*XFaCE gives voice to amarsh04Mar 20 03:26
formic_Skype - the makers of KazaaMar 20 03:26
*XFaCE gives voice to tessierMar 20 03:26
prurigroseriously?Mar 20 03:26
*XFaCE gives voice to koolhead17Mar 20 03:26
formic_yesMar 20 03:26
*XFaCE gives voice to gde33Mar 20 03:26
formic_you really think skype is spyware free?Mar 20 03:26
formic_;)Mar 20 03:26
DaemonFCI would say nobody should use MPEG codecs because of the patent troll that encumbers themMar 20 03:26
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DaemonFCbut a lot of that shit is out there alreadyMar 20 03:26
formic_think different(tm)Mar 20 03:26
DaemonFCso my suggestion is to just use unlicensed codecs wherever you canMar 20 03:27
DaemonFCthey've probably already gouged you a dozen times over anywayMar 20 03:27
formic_It's your money, you paid for it.Mar 20 03:27
prurigroformic_, interesting- was kazaa that riddled with spyware? I kinda missed that era of p2p for OS reasonsMar 20 03:27
DaemonFCwell, think about itMar 20 03:27
DaemonFCyou pay for all of MPEG-LA's codecs every time you buy a license for Windows or OS XMar 20 03:28
DaemonFCso if you've ever had a version of Windows or OS X with those codecs, you've paid themMar 20 03:28
formic_prurigro - yeah man, they had k-lite for a reasonMar 20 03:28
DaemonFCif you've used Windows 98, Me, XP, Vista, and 7, you've paid for many of the same codecs 5 times overMar 20 03:28
DaemonFCand that's not even counting licenses for multiple computersMar 20 03:29
formic_Skype - based on technology that people used to pirate copies of windows amongst other stuff - now owned by MicrosoftMar 20 03:29
DaemonFCif you've used OS X tothis point, you've licensed the same codecs at least 8 times alreadyMar 20 03:29
DaemonFCif you buy a portable media player, you pay them again each timeMar 20 03:29
DaemonFCif you buy a blu ray player or a DVD player, you pay them againMar 20 03:29
formic_If you've listened to DaemoNFC to this pont, you've heard the same made up stories at least 8 times alreadyMar 20 03:29
DaemonFCI don't think I should worry about making sure I've paid MPEG-LA for the 500th time on my Linux systemMar 20 03:30
DaemonFCfuck themMar 20 03:30
formic_didn't you knowMar 20 03:30
XFaCEformic_: Uh, how is what he said made up?Mar 20 03:30
formic_a pc should have 550 licenses for MPEG-2Mar 20 03:30
formic_ its in the 900 page EULAMar 20 03:31
formic_paragraph 33Mar 20 03:33
DaemonFCyou're on the patent license installment planMar 20 03:33
DaemonFCwhere they get thousands of dollars out of you a dollar or two at a timeMar 20 03:33
formic_why do you think they don't mind giving users a royalty free licenseMar 20 03:34
formic_they've already paid for it more than onceMar 20 03:34
DaemonFCbecause it makes the codec seem freeMar 20 03:34
DaemonFCwhen in reality it just increases the need for taxed devicesMar 20 03:34
XFaCEformic_: They want the users to spread it like a diseaseMar 20 03:34
DaemonFCand taxed softwareMar 20 03:34
formic_alac is free tho, that I do have to sayMar 20 03:35
formic_ASL 2.0 licenseMar 20 03:35
DaemonFCyeah, after being proprietary for 10 yearsMar 20 03:35
DaemonFCtat gets them FAIL pointsMar 20 03:35
formic_yeah well, i dont care if its open source nowMar 20 03:35
DaemonFCmore FAIL points for using an MPEG containerMar 20 03:35
DaemonFCit already was open sourceMar 20 03:36
DaemonFCit's been reverse engineered for a good long timeMar 20 03:36
DaemonFCand under a BSD licenseMar 20 03:36
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 03:36
formic_yeah but stillMar 20 03:36
formic_its considered an open format nowMar 20 03:36
DaemonFCsure, they threw some code over a wall after they already lostMar 20 03:36
DaemonFCwoohooMar 20 03:36
XFaCEformic_: I agree about not caringMar 20 03:36
formic_my only concern over a format is if it can be used in open sourceMar 20 03:37
formic_if it can, im future proofMar 20 03:37
XFaCEformic_: With FLAC and others out there for years, working just fine, and used wideless for lossless purposes, I don't see an urgent needMar 20 03:37
formic_my ipod likes alac more than it likes flacMar 20 03:38
formic_gotta use vlc on itMar 20 03:38
DaemonFCthe only thing the Apache license gives us that we didn't have before is Apple's irrevocable promise not to sue you for using it with patents they haveMar 20 03:38
formic_not as nice as the native playerMar 20 03:38
DaemonFCI still don't see why anyone would use ALACMar 20 03:38
XFaCEformic_: ah, new ipodMar 20 03:39
DaemonFCthe files are much larger than FLACMar 20 03:39
XFaCEOtherwise, I would have said use RockboxMar 20 03:39
DaemonFCand it's much less widely supportedMar 20 03:39
formic_works on ipodMar 20 03:39
formic_ipod touchMar 20 03:39
XFaCEformic_: Got thatMar 20 03:39
prurigroformic_, ohh true eh, I remember that-- interesting a company can have such a reputation and then just suddenly go another direction by avoiding the mention of its parent company nameMar 20 03:39
XFaCEDaemonFC: I find the Sanza Clip far more enticing than an ipodMar 20 03:39
XFaCE:)Mar 20 03:39
formic_does t he sanza clip have android?Mar 20 03:39
DaemonFCyou can install Rockbox on it easilyMar 20 03:40
XFaCEformic_: it's pre-androidMar 20 03:40
formic_gayMar 20 03:40
XFaCEformic_: It's a music player, no extraneous crapMar 20 03:40
formic_I want an android thats like the ipod touchMar 20 03:40
formic_basicly, a PDAMar 20 03:40
XFaCEformic_: Says the guy using an iPod touchMar 20 03:40
formic_no phoneMar 20 03:40
formic_well yeah pre-android is gayMar 20 03:40
DaemonFCthere's no TECHNICAL reason someone couldn't make such a deviceMar 20 03:41
XFaCEformic_: not reallyMar 20 03:41
formic_yes reallyMar 20 03:41
DaemonFCAndroid is free and open source softwareMar 20 03:41
XFaCEformic_: No, some people just want to play music and nothing elseMar 20 03:41
formic_I want a wifi pda that has a smart phone OSMar 20 03:41
DaemonFCbut Microsoft and Apple would probably patent troll whoever did itMar 20 03:41
formic_but without the cell phone crapMar 20 03:41
XFaCEformic_: I want a music player that can play FLACs very wellMar 20 03:41
DaemonFCit would mean artificially high prices to satisfy the patent trolls like MS and AppleMar 20 03:41
XFaCEformic_: OKMar 20 03:41
XFaCEformic_: you could put Android on you Ipod touch :PMar 20 03:41
DaemonFCthe onyl thing that keeps Android devices priced better than iOS devices is because most of the cost of an iOS device is markupMar 20 03:42
formic_I also dont want some piece of chinese crap still running android 2.xMar 20 03:42
DaemonFCApple insists on like a 300% markup for everything they sellMar 20 03:42
DaemonFC(or more)Mar 20 03:42
formic_I'm thinking of getting an android tabletMar 20 03:42
DaemonFCAndroid 4 is niceMar 20 03:42
DaemonFCI noticed it's much faster than 3.2 wasMar 20 03:43
formic_I don't want anything older than android 4Mar 20 03:43
DaemonFCyeah, Archos finally delivered an ANdroid 4.0.4 firmwareMar 20 03:43
XFaCEformic_: http://liliputing.com/2011/10/8-android-alternatives-to-apples-ipod-touch.htmlMar 20 03:43
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DaemonFCI had been stuck on 3.2 until this weekMar 20 03:43
DaemonFCwell, it reported 3.2.1Mar 20 03:43
XFaCEformic_: old article, but you can get a sense of what's availableMar 20 03:43
DaemonFCof course every vendor cherry picks patches to apply to their firmwareMar 20 03:44
DaemonFCthat aren't even in a release yetMar 20 03:44
formic_xface - hahaMar 20 03:44
formic_xface - they're ALL android 2.xMar 20 03:44
DaemonFCboooMar 20 03:44
XFaCEformic_: As I said, old articleMar 20 03:44
DaemonFCyeah, Android 2.x has become the de facto development target because of Google closing the source to Android 3Mar 20 03:45
formic_im kind of scared actually cause what if I get an android 4 device and the manufactuerer doesnt go to android 5Mar 20 03:45
DaemonFCthey already blogged about that, admitting that they were stupid for having done itMar 20 03:45
DaemonFCand had set back the entire project considerably Mar 20 03:45
formic_i dont want to be waiting around like daemon for a firmware update to the latestMar 20 03:45
XFaCEformic_: then you get an Android derivativeMar 20 03:45
DaemonFCformic_: Most Android software out there only needs Android 2.3 or earlierMar 20 03:46
formic_I want the google branded tabletMar 20 03:46
DaemonFCsome even still works on Android 1.5Mar 20 03:46
formic_I know google won't let it lag behindMar 20 03:46
formic_daemonfc - I don't want the slower shitty android 2.xMar 20 03:46
XFaCEDaemonFC: What's that other Android deriv other than Replicant?Mar 20 03:46
DaemonFCCyanogenmodMar 20 03:46
DaemonFC!google CyanogenmodMar 20 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - CyanogenMod | Android Community Rom based on Gingerbread | http://www.cyanogenmod.com/Mar 20 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Devices | CyanogenMod | http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devicesMar 20 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - CyanogenMod Forum | http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/Mar 20 03:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - CyanogenMod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenModMar 20 03:46
formic_whats this google tablet rumorMar 20 03:47
formic_asus rightMar 20 03:47
formic_I'd trust that not to be shitMar 20 03:47
XFaCEformic_: I concur. Asus at least doesn't contract manufactureMar 20 03:48
DaemonFCdon't get a device that doesn't have Google Certified AndroidMar 20 03:48
XFaCE(except to themselves)Mar 20 03:48
formic_asus doesn't sell shitMar 20 03:48
DaemonFCArchos has Google Certified AndroidMar 20 03:48
XFaCEformic_: I concur, having used this ASUS laptop :)Mar 20 03:48
formic_I use ASUS motherboards :)Mar 20 03:48
formic_I got my keyboard fixedMar 20 03:49
formic_Less typos :)Mar 20 03:49
DaemonFCif the Android firmware isn't Google Certified it means they could have done any number of things to itMar 20 03:49
DaemonFCthey might not even let you use the Google Marketplace Mar 20 03:49
formic_daemonfc - good to knowMar 20 03:49
formic_is the amazon fire google android certified?Mar 20 03:49
DaemonFCnopeMar 20 03:50
formic_didnt think soMar 20 03:50
DaemonFCand it only lets you use the Amazon App StoreMar 20 03:50
formic_silk seems like big brothers wet dreamMar 20 03:50
DaemonFCand it's based on Android 2.3Mar 20 03:50
formic_ewwwwwwwMar 20 03:50
DaemonFCI have the Amazon App Store installed on my tabletMar 20 03:50
DaemonFCjust because they make an app free every dayMar 20 03:50
DaemonFCsome developers don't like thatMar 20 03:51
DaemonFCbut they agreed to it when they put their app in that Amazon storeMar 20 03:51
formic_lolMar 20 03:51
formic_apple does that tooMar 20 03:51
formic_I think thats the developers choice thoughMar 20 03:51
formic_I don't see Amazon being any less evil than AppleMar 20 03:52
DaemonFCthey're notMar 20 03:53
DaemonFCand Silk is just a fork of the browser that comes with AndroidMar 20 03:54
DaemonFCit's designed to use Amazon's proxy server so they can spy on youMar 20 03:54
XFaCEformic_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenModMar 20 03:55
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XFaCEthat's itMar 20 03:55
DaemonFChttp://dot.kde.org/2011/11/30/plasma-active-archos-g9-tabletMar 20 03:55
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DaemonFChttps://gitorious.org/~archosMar 20 03:56
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formic_xface - does CyanogenMod still require a google account?Mar 20 03:58
XFaCEformic_: noMar 20 03:58
formic_excellent =)Mar 20 03:58
DaemonFCthey also don't include the Google applicationsMar 20 03:59
DaemonFCGoogle's lawyers went after them about itMar 20 03:59
formic_ooooMar 20 03:59
formic_PERFECTMar 20 03:59
DaemonFCso they walk you through copying those applications from AndroidMar 20 03:59
formic_I can deal with less spywareMar 20 03:59
DaemonFCyeah, you don't have to keep themMar 20 03:59
DaemonFCbut they walk you through how to do it if you want themMar 20 04:00
formic_actually I'd be more interested in removing themMar 20 04:00
formic_since the aren't included, my life is easierMar 20 04:00
formic_i just want music player with metasploit ;)Mar 20 04:00
formic_& nmap and other toolsMar 20 04:01
DaemonFChttps://www.archos.com/support/support_tech/updates_dev.html?country=us&lang=enMar 20 04:01
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DaemonFCapparently that's the page to watch for the Plasma Active firmware when they start making it availableMar 20 04:02
XFaCEwell, must go nowMar 20 04:02
XFaCEgn allMar 20 04:02
formic_plasma active :)Mar 20 04:03
DaemonFCKubuntu Active producing test buildsMar 20 04:05
DaemonFCbut so far they only support x86Mar 20 04:05
DaemonFCthey're going to support arm eventuallyMar 20 04:06
formic_android on x86 will be easier tooMar 20 04:06
formic_linux 3.3Mar 20 04:06
DaemonFCwell, AMD is working on the x86 portMar 20 04:07
DaemonFCso is Intel though, blehMar 20 04:07
DaemonFCjust what I don't wantMar 20 04:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada "Byron Sonne and… Copyright?" http://www.ur1.ca/8qj9m !CDNpoli !FreeByronMar 20 04:07
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DaemonFCsom underpowered Atom with a PowerVR blob running the graphicsMar 20 04:07
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 04:07
DaemonFCyou know the AMD x86 tablets will be pretty much 100% open sourceMar 20 04:08
DaemonFCeven the graphics drivers, because of the open source project they already have for RadeonsMar 20 04:08
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DaemonFCif Intel ships a blob that just puts them on my shitlist x 2Mar 20 04:09
DaemonFCthat GMA 500 was basically unusable on Linux, still isMar 20 04:10
DaemonFCthere's a driver with KMS support now, FINALLY, but no acceleration at allMar 20 04:10
formic_brb major upgradeMar 20 04:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] Can't wait for the symLinkedln-s fake mail ;-) ♻ @carlopiana: Just received a “Linkedln” [sic] message, quite good fake.Mar 20 04:17
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formic_daemonfc - if you version me you'll get two versions of konversationMar 20 04:32
formic_lolMar 20 04:32
formic_znc +1Mar 20 04:32
DaemonFCI only need one version of KonversationMar 20 04:33
DaemonFCwhatever the latest one isMar 20 04:33
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 04:33
formic_I still need to upgrade KDE on this machineMar 20 04:34
formic_my netbook has the latestMar 20 04:34
formic_since im on znc, im logged in once and have two clients connectedMar 20 04:34
formic_you'll get two ctcp version repliesMar 20 04:34
formic_or three, if my ipod is on ircMar 20 04:34
DaemonFCKonversation is ExtragearMar 20 04:35
DaemonFCit's not tied to a particular KDE versionMar 20 04:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: #opendata @countculture's open letter to Vince Cable http://t.co/vbNK4Rsl #consistency http://p.ost.im/p/eXSxwHMar 20 04:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @epsiplatform: We want to hear your #opendata war stories! Share them at http://t.co/Attfw0Js http://p.ost.im/p/eXFnVqMar 20 04:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Another rant about academia and #opensource http://t.co/qf9bqQ1s by @benthall via @wordpressdotcom http://p.ost.im/p/eXVG3xMar 20 04:35
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formic_1.4 came with KDE 4.8Mar 20 04:36
formic_so thereMar 20 04:36
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DaemonFCalthough I think the minimum KDE version that you can use Konversaion 1.4 with is KDE 4.4Mar 20 04:36
DaemonFCEPEL has Konversation but it's an old versionMar 20 04:37
formic_I dunnoMar 20 04:38
formic_I got Konversation 1.4 with a KDE 4.8 update on FedoraMar 20 04:38
DaemonFCyeahMar 20 04:41
DaemonFCall that means is that they waited  to package itMar 20 04:41
DaemonFCit would have worked on KDE 4.7Mar 20 04:41
formic_perhapsMar 20 04:42
formic_that doesnt mean i dont have to update KDE to get itMar 20 04:42
DaemonFChttp://konversation.kde.org/Mar 20 04:42
formic_at least in my caseMar 20 04:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Konversation Homepage .::. Size~: 58.24 KBMar 20 04:42
DaemonFCKonversation now depends on KDE Platform v4.4.3 or higher and Qt v4.6.0 or higher.Mar 20 04:42
DaemonFCthereMar 20 04:42
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 04:42
formic_i dont know why I wouldn't want to update my KDE to 4.8Mar 20 04:42
formic_anywayMar 20 04:42
DaemonFCKDE 4.4.3 and Qt 4.6 or laterMar 20 04:42
DaemonFCit would mainly affect people using long term and enterprise distributionsMar 20 04:43
formic_yaMar 20 04:43
DaemonFCRHEL has KDE 4.3 and I think Debian 6 has 4.4Mar 20 04:43
formic_im on fedoraMar 20 04:43
DaemonFCso there's distributions out there with old enough KDE versions and/or Qt packages that Konversation might not build or workMar 20 04:43
DaemonFC1.3.2 would build and work on RHELMar 20 04:44
DaemonFCbut that's going to be the last one that doesMar 20 04:44
DaemonFC1.4 is a massive improvement thoughMar 20 04:44
formic_YeahMar 20 04:45
DaemonFCthat's the problem with using longterm and enterprise distributionsMar 20 04:45
DaemonFCeventually they get so crusty that you can't even build newer software on themMar 20 04:45
DaemonFC5 years is ancientMar 20 04:46
DaemonFCI couldn't even imagine using a RHEL 6 desktop in 2020Mar 20 04:46
DaemonFCthat would be like saying you're still using Linux 2.2 and KDE 2 nowMar 20 04:47
DaemonFC5 years is older than you really want your desktop system to beMar 20 04:47
DaemonFC(that's Ubuntu's new lifecycle)Mar 20 04:47
DaemonFCbut I'll probably still upgrade to 14.04 as soon as it's outMar 20 04:47
DaemonFCor maybe when it's late enough in the process that I deem it fit to useMar 20 04:48
DaemonFCI've had it with those 6 month releases thoughMar 20 04:48
DaemonFCbroken shit on top of broken shit, none of it has been tested muchMar 20 04:48
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629459Mar 20 04:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 629459 – Build Firefox with clang .::. Size~: 45.34 KBMar 20 04:58
DaemonFC"On linux it found problems with using the old system headers in centos."Mar 20 04:58
DaemonFCMaybe their Linux builders should quit dicking around with CentOS 5 and upgrade to CentOS 6Mar 20 04:59
DaemonFCwell, it's obvious why their official build platform involves CentOS 5Mar 20 04:59
DaemonFCbecause EL 5 is probably the crustiest Linux distribution that anyone still usesMar 20 04:59
DaemonFC(Yes, that's what they build their official binaries on. *sigh*)Mar 20 05:01
DaemonFCthey also don't use any of GCC's security hardening features on their official binariesMar 20 05:01
DaemonFCso they definitely have more vulnerabilities than a Firefox package from Ubuntu or Fedora wouldMar 20 05:02
DaemonFCformic_: We need a new browserMar 20 05:03
formic_DaemonFC - yes we doMar 20 05:03
DaemonFCto replace that new browser from Google that was supposed to replace that new browser from MozillaMar 20 05:03
DaemonFCthat was supposed to replace that festering pile of shit from MicrosoftMar 20 05:03
formic_how hard is it to take the spyware out of chromiumMar 20 05:04
DaemonFCwell, SRWare Iron has their diffs available don't they?Mar 20 05:04
formic_I had to go back to firesuxMar 20 05:04
formic_Even with firesux, you gotta edit your about:config to remove the google phone homeMar 20 05:05
DaemonFCit would be nice if someone took SRWare Iron's code and applied all of Tom Callaway's patches to his build of Chromium to itMar 20 05:05
formic_they both have git reposMar 20 05:05
formic_don't they?Mar 20 05:05
DaemonFChis patches let you build Chromium with support for using more system libraries instead of Google's forked internal copiesMar 20 05:06
formic_in theory you could merge them and I assume the patches they use apply to different areasMar 20 05:06
formic_yesMar 20 05:06
DaemonFCnot sure, haven't looked into it muchMar 20 05:06
formic_the fedora one is the best build of chromium on linuxMar 20 05:06
formic_precisely because of thatMar 20 05:06
DaemonFCbut the number of forked internal copies of system libraries that Chromium uses is truly horrifyingMar 20 05:06
formic_and selinuxMar 20 05:07
formic_there is only one advantageMar 20 05:07
formic_predictabilityMar 20 05:07
DaemonFCyeah, he doesn't always do a great job keeping up with upstreamMar 20 05:07
formic_they can place assumptions on what the libraries doMar 20 05:07
DaemonFCof course he might not have the security problems they doMar 20 05:08
formic_what does kubuntu useMar 20 05:08
formic_selinux or crapparmorMar 20 05:08
DaemonFCif there's a security problem in Chromium's internal copy of libpng and you're using the system copy (which we'll assume is already updated) then you have no problemMar 20 05:08
DaemonFCAppArmor supplemented by YamaMar 20 05:08
formic_CRAppArmorMar 20 05:09
DaemonFCI don't know that I'd say thatMar 20 05:09
formic_trusting something novell gave up with your linux securityMar 20 05:09
DaemonFCthey have improved it a lot since SUSE fired everyone and Canonical took it overMar 20 05:09
formic_Only Canonical uses itMar 20 05:10
formic_opensuse is selinuxMar 20 05:10
DaemonFCit's in the mainline kernelMar 20 05:10
DaemonFCnoMar 20 05:10
DaemonFCOpenSUSE still uses AppArmorMar 20 05:10
formic_I think they switchedMar 20 05:10
DaemonFCwhen I looked at 11.4, it was still AppArmorMar 20 05:10
DaemonFCso unless they changed it in 12.1....Mar 20 05:10
formic_or you can switch between themMar 20 05:11
DaemonFCyeah, you COULD use SELinux on Ubuntu, it's just not something they officially supportMar 20 05:12
DaemonFCif you have a support contract and ask about SELinux, you won't get them to help you with thatMar 20 05:12
formic_http://lwn.net/Articles/294994/Mar 20 05:12
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DaemonFCit's an optionMar 20 05:12
formic_yeahMar 20 05:12
DaemonFCjust like it's an option on UbuntuMar 20 05:12
formic_can you do that in ubuntu?Mar 20 05:12
formic_okMar 20 05:12
DaemonFCit defaults to AppArmorMar 20 05:13
formic_good stuffMar 20 05:13
formic_I think I trust SELinux more thoughMar 20 05:13
DaemonFCUbuntu's kernel does have the SELinux LSM moduleMar 20 05:13
formic_I trust Redhat more than Canonical with securityMar 20 05:13
formic_plus its like NSA+RedhatMar 20 05:13
DaemonFCit just isn't loaded unless you install an SELinux policy and remove the AppArmor userspace stuffMar 20 05:13
DaemonFCwhen you go to reboot, it will label your file system for SELinuxMar 20 05:13
DaemonFCbut SELinux file system labels don't work on ReiserFS or JFSMar 20 05:14
DaemonFCif you try it with them your system will fail to bootMar 20 05:14
DaemonFCSELinux security labels work with XFS thoughMar 20 05:14
DaemonFCnot that I know anyone who still wants to be using ReiserFSMar 20 05:15
DaemonFCit's unofficially deprecatedMar 20 05:15
DaemonFCit has many known problemsMar 20 05:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: INPI abre consulta pública sobre exame de patente que inclui programa de computador http://bit.ly/FRH0cO via @pedroparanaguaMar 20 05:15
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DaemonFCmultithreading support in ReiserFS jsut doesn't even existMar 20 05:17
DaemonFCsince they killed the big kernel lock, they ended up replacing the sections of ReiserFS code that were using it with spinlocks insteadMar 20 05:17
DaemonFCwhich made it even slowerMar 20 05:17
DaemonFCformic_: SELinux without SETroubleshoot is no cakewalk thoughMar 20 05:18
DaemonFCUbuntu doesn't have it and it doesn't look like OpenSUSE does eitherMar 20 05:19
DaemonFCso if there's a problem caused by the policy, you're going to end up having to look through your kernel logs to diagnose it and there's no GUI utility with boolean values to toggle to work around common problemsMar 20 05:20
DaemonFCSELinux outside of Fedora or RHEL/Clones is not funMar 20 05:20
DaemonFCformic_: To teach myself how to write AppArmor policies, I wrote one for Opera 11 a while backMar 20 05:21
DaemonFCit had a few moments where I thought "What on Earth does it need to do THAT for?"Mar 20 05:22
DaemonFCbut so do FirefoxMar 20 05:22
DaemonFCand especially ChromeMar 20 05:22
DaemonFCChrome runs around trying to ptrace EVERYTHINGMar 20 05:22
formic_whoaMar 20 05:22
formic_thats creepyMar 20 05:23
DaemonFCChrome is effectively impossible to properly sandbox with AppArmorMar 20 05:23
formic_"Basicly we've created Skynet, without it going rogue on us and sending robots back in time."Mar 20 05:23
DaemonFCreading through the policy Ubuntu made for Chromium is surrealMar 20 05:24
DaemonFCit actually has three policies in one, and calls out to several abstraction policies that Ubuntu has for functions that browsers typically need to doMar 20 05:25
DaemonFCthe main policy which is really three policies sandboxes Chromium itself, Chromium's Sandbox Helper (which is a setuid root executable), and one for if you use the OpenJDK (open java) plug-inMar 20 05:26
DaemonFCand the entire thing is over 300 lines long not counting the abstractionsMar 20 05:26
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 05:26
DaemonFCformic_: for comparison, you can get a policy that works for Opera or Firefox in about 100 lines, not counting the abstractionsMar 20 05:27
DaemonFCChromium does a lot of really bizarre thingsMar 20 05:27
DaemonFCit does more with every releaseMar 20 05:28
DaemonFChttps://lwn.net/Articles/487120/Mar 20 05:31
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DaemonFChttps://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/03/video-mobile-and-the-open-web/Mar 20 05:33
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Diablo-D3formic_: waitMar 20 05:33
Diablo-D3is it producing an army of intelligent fembots?Mar 20 05:33
Diablo-D3cause, honestly, I'd work along side that.Mar 20 05:33
formic_thats pretty creepyMar 20 05:36
Diablo-D3what, a workplace full of intelligent women who like to talk about physics and chess instead of daytime soaps and whatnot?Mar 20 05:36
Diablo-D3and they're internet connected as well?Mar 20 05:36
formic_you want a fembot?Mar 20 05:37
Diablo-D3its better than fucking organics, thats for sure.Mar 20 05:37
formic_http://www.thestar.com/news/article/552049--robot-not-really-his-girl-man-saysMar 20 05:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Morning @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @MwanikiGreen @flintsould @DammimMar 20 05:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Liberating America's secret, for-pay laws http://identi.ca/url/68179177 !effMar 20 05:50
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DaemonFChttp://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=353&name=Adapters-Gender-ChangersMar 20 06:13
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*DaemonFC chucklesMar 20 06:13
DaemonFCit's unnatural I tells ya!Mar 20 06:13
DaemonFCyou can change your gender but I don't have to be PC about itMar 20 06:14
DaemonFChttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822332076RMar 20 06:20
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DaemonFCwhoaMar 20 06:20
DaemonFCHitachi seems to make unreliable hard drivesMar 20 06:24
DaemonFCreview after review on Newegg of people saying their drive lasted < 6 monthsMar 20 06:24
DaemonFCand Hitachi responds to them with their customer support linkMar 20 06:24
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/03/linux-33-released-restores-android-components-in-staging.ars?clicked=related_rightMar 20 06:29
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DaemonFC"The staging area is a special subdirectory of the mainline kernel tree that is dedicated to code that is not yet ready for production use."Mar 20 06:30
DaemonFCthat's an understatementMar 20 06:30
DaemonFCalmost everything that gets into staging is eventually deleted without making it furtherMar 20 06:30
DaemonFCok, that's an exaggeration, but it happens with a lot of stuffMar 20 06:30
DaemonFCthe Broadcom wireless situation is particularly disgusting Mar 20 06:31
DaemonFCthey went for years refusing to support Linux, waited until there was already a stable Broadcom driver created through years of reverse engineering, and then release their own open source driver that covers most of the same hardware and hasn't had any real world testing at allMar 20 06:32
DaemonFCand now they're arguing that the kernel developers should just delete the existing one that we know works to make way for their own untested oneMar 20 06:32
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DaemonFChttps://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/17/40Mar 20 06:36
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DaemonFCa version of this patch landed in Linux 3.3Mar 20 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Time to give Fedora 18 a name - http://ur1.ca/8qk5d #fb #inMar 20 06:57
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scientes    marypoppins = (superman + starship) / god; Mar 20 07:06
Diablo-D3wtf?Mar 20 07:07
scientestypedef struct { int i; } ínt; Mar 20 07:07
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scientesPerformDataFunction, DoIt, HandleStuffMar 20 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shared a post "PEBLAC..." http://ur1.ca/8qk89Mar 20 07:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 haha, geen idee, voeg gewoon zaken toe in comment, we zien dan wel :)Mar 20 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 niets belet je je andere plannen af te zeggen ;)Mar 20 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ wait whut? Heb je weer vakantie?Mar 20 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @madewulf @RaphaelJS @pixeline Cool! Very excited to see something soon!Mar 20 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken tzal vrijdag zijn, net na de middag, IBBTMar 20 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken woensdag moet ik hele dag solicitanten sprekenMar 20 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken nopes. Morgen heb ik duusd schermen te plaatsen in Brussel met @tuinslakMar 20 07:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/4MRcpYNm - Genesi USA has the best customer support ever. Really. #FlatTurtleMar 20 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV aha, ik ga dat toevoegen als puntje ;)Mar 20 07:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @webguy Oh, wij kunnen anders wel Franse vertaling onder handen nemen als die er nog niet isMar 20 07:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Had a very good meeting with #DeLijn. Cool stuff ahead! #iRail /ty @p_vanostaeyenMar 20 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @lamazone: Moeilijke mailtjes dag.Mar 20 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdesmet_ Uhm?Mar 20 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @t1mdp Voor website-klachten moet ge overigens bij @coreation of @lievenjanssen zijnMar 20 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 Inschrijven als hacker aubMar 20 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @DeClercqPieter @rcallewaert Nop: ik heb geen android noch iphone, en ik wil die data integreren binnen http://ur1. ...Mar 20 07:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ywein: Op algemeen verzoek: Het Praktijkboek Cloud Contracten. Eerste hoofdstukken online http://t.co/6d5z5ctuMar 20 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Boot2GeckoMar 20 07:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mcnalu Good morning and happy vernal equinox to one and all !tzagMar 20 07:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Anyone familiar with !Kenya tax regime on importing computers? what duties/levies/taxes to be paid and their ratesMar 20 07:54
DaemonFChttps://blog.mozilla.com/futurereleases/2012/03/16/silencing-updates/Mar 20 08:05
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DaemonFCFirefox now installs a Windows system serviceMar 20 08:07
DaemonFCto suppress UACMar 20 08:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Interesting. The consumerization (AKA "don't try to tinker" attitude) is still growing, as iFixit guy explains. FBI wa... http://b1t.it/a8FHMar 20 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma Morning ninja, If and when you can please check your mail and respondMar 20 08:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @hamide Happy new year! It's spring!Mar 20 08:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] I want to learn Ge'ez script http://ur1.ca/8qkmw /cc @nj3ma @fredmanglisMar 20 08:15
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DaemonFChttp://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120319Mar 20 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mergeți la el și chemați-l! http://ur1.ca/8qkoy #romania #politics #royal #monarchyMar 20 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New, High-End Laptop Offers Linux Preinstalled http://ur1.ca/8qkpg #gnu #linuxMar 20 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz New, High-End Laptop Offers Linux Preinstalled http://ur1.ca/8qkpg #gnu #linuxMar 20 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MINIX 3.2.0 - the little operating system that could? http://ur1.ca/8qkprMar 20 08:36
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scientes<DaemonFC> Firefox now installs a Windows system serviceMar 20 08:39
scientes<DaemonFC> to suppress UACMar 20 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @laurelrusswurm Sad that human reproduction is considered dirty, and displaying various bodyparts bad, while destroying personal priv ...Mar 20 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista8 and Linux: The perception of change http://ur1.ca/8qkq8 #windows #gnu #linux #gnomeMar 20 08:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @inscius: @mcnalu a Scottish-built satellite??? The only thing I can say is: CRIVINS!!! :O !unseenstudioMar 20 08:39
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scientesDaemonFC, UAC is already pure security theatre http://www.pretentiousname.com/misc/win7_uac_whitelist2.htmlMar 20 08:39
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scienteswindow's CALCULATOR runs elevated, whitelisted against UACMar 20 08:39
scientesas does internet explorer, of courseMar 20 08:40
DaemonFCInternet Explorer doesn'tMar 20 08:41
DaemonFCit has a broker process that doesMar 20 08:41
DaemonFCChrome's sandbox is similar except that it tends to actually workMar 20 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What if Ubuntu were right? http://ur1.ca/8qdim #ubuntu #desktopMar 20 08:42
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scientesDaemonFC, did you even read that page?Mar 20 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu Linux and Canonical Moving Forward, Two Years After Leadership Change http://ur1.ca/8qkro #gnu #linux #ubuntuMar 20 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Demand Swift Rejection of ACTA http://ur1.ca/8qkrw #ACTAMar 20 08:51
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*scientes has personally met John "maddog" HallMar 20 08:52
scientesschestowitz, ^Mar 20 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple Sued By Belgian Consumer Association For Not Applying EU Warranty Laws http://goo.gl/eeXFZMar 20 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Simply improves and polishes http://ur1.ca/8qks6 #gnu #linuxMar 20 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Boycott of #Elsevier Exceeds 8000 Researchers http://goo.gl/xi3TvMar 20 08:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazon EC2 Console Adds Official Ubuntu Support http://ur1.ca/8qksl #ubuntuMar 20 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] societies most successful criminals are found in boardrooms of companies the world overMar 20 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cutting Off The Root: The Future Of Community Developed Android http://ur1.ca/8qksw #android #linuxMar 20 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla Firefox Gives in on Web Video Patents http://ur1.ca/8qktl http://ur1.ca/8qktm #SwpatsMar 20 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] RT @randomcolour very dark strongish greenish yellowMar 20 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mozilla Firefox Gives in on Web Video Patents - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 33.55 KBMar 20 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mitchell Baker Says H.264 is About User Experience .::. Size~: 37.6 KBMar 20 09:04
DaemonFC"Mozilla had tried to get around using H.264 by using and supporting open web video formats. The problem is that content providers haven't embraced the same model and more importantly, Google hasn't either (even though they champion WebM, H.264 still runs on Android)."Mar 20 09:05
DaemonFCand ChromeMar 20 09:05
DaemonFCand Chromium if you install the right codec packMar 20 09:05
scientesdoesn't change the fact that youtube is doing WebMMar 20 09:05
DaemonFCthey do h264 only on some videosMar 20 09:06
DaemonFCif you encounter one with Firefox, it will try falling back to FlashMar 20 09:06
scienteswell h264 is FOSSMar 20 09:06
DaemonFCif you don't have Flash, it will load a big black boxMar 20 09:06
scientesits just that people end up caving to the cabalsMar 20 09:06
DaemonFCit's encumbered by patentsMar 20 09:06
scientescause most people arn't educated enought to throw up a fit over the cabalMar 20 09:06
scientesalso VP8 is a superior codecMar 20 09:07
scientesits very modernMar 20 09:07
scientesunlike theora which was VP3-basedMar 20 09:07
DaemonFCTheora is on par with divxMar 20 09:08
scientesschestowitz, I met John Maddog Hall in personMar 20 09:08
DaemonFCmany people use divx for some reasonMar 20 09:08
DaemonFCI don't know why you wouldMar 20 09:08
scientespeople also use DVDsMar 20 09:08
scienteswhile with even DivX you can pack the same quality on a CDMar 20 09:08
DaemonFCyou violate hundreds of patents with MPEG-4 ASP codecs like divxMar 20 09:08
DaemonFCand a coupel thousand with h264Mar 20 09:09
DaemonFCyou might as well go all out I guessMar 20 09:09
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 09:09
*scientes violates patents every time he takes a dumpMar 20 09:09
scientesits just too complicated for mere mortals you seeMar 20 09:09
scientes...my dumps that isMar 20 09:09
DaemonFCgoing to take a Sir John HarringtonMar 20 09:09
scientesalso DivX is h264Mar 20 09:10
scientesAFAIKMar 20 09:10
scientesit just a certain setting of h264 featuresMar 20 09:10
scientescause some settings that h264 supports, like 2 motion-compensation vectors with 1/4 pixel increments, is pretty damn performance demandingMar 20 09:11
scientesand that is why people use DivXMar 20 09:11
DaemonFC "Mozilla is here for the long haul. We will never give up, never surrender".Mar 20 09:12
DaemonFCsaid the cheese eating surrender monkeyMar 20 09:12
scientesMozilla is greatMar 20 09:12
scientesI'm still trying to get them to realize that AF_ALG exists....Mar 20 09:12
DaemonFCnoMar 20 09:12
scientesbut that is a differn't storyMar 20 09:12
DaemonFCdivx is not h264Mar 20 09:12
DaemonFCdivx is MPEG-4 part 2Mar 20 09:14
DaemonFCh264 is MPEG-4 part 10Mar 20 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Liberating America's secret, for-pay laws - http://bit.ly/GAflwk more #copyright insanityMar 20 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Samsung launches its first online store in #India, strengthening its bid to overtake Nokia - http://tnw.co/GAq4oG more bad news for #nokiaMar 20 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Oz billionaire says CIA backs Greenpeace - http://bit.ly/GBuYE9 conclusive proof that money makes you stupidMar 20 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Waive VAT on #RaspberryPi - http://bit.ly/GApUUt interesting #epetition UK people might care to signMar 20 09:32
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DaemonFCif I ever do win one of those $10 million contests I'm going to donate half of itMar 20 09:33
schestowitzscientes: where and when?Mar 20 09:33
scientesat a linux conference a few years backMar 20 09:34
scienteshe had a OLPC laptopMar 20 09:34
scienteswith himMar 20 09:34
scientesand he gave a talkMar 20 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Presentation on extortion and !copyfraud perpetrated by shady law firms and the #MAFIAA upon citizens in the US and EU. #v4copyshiftMar 20 09:36
DaemonFC"Proprietary software is often designed to do something nasty."Mar 20 09:37
DaemonFCI don't know about oftenMar 20 09:37
DaemonFCit certainly does happen thoughMar 20 09:37
scientesalso got to meet a EFF attourneyMar 20 09:37
scientescant find his name ATMMar 20 09:37
schestowitzthe effiin?Mar 20 09:38
schestowitzEFFINMar 20 09:38
scienteselectronic frontier foundationMar 20 09:38
DaemonFCthe big problem with proprietary software is that it's not about making good softwareMar 20 09:38
DaemonFCor stable softwareMar 20 09:38
schestowitzEFFIN, EFFOUTMar 20 09:38
DaemonFCor particularly useful softwareMar 20 09:38
DaemonFCit's about making moneyMar 20 09:38
schestowitzwhat is it then?Mar 20 09:38
schestowitzohMar 20 09:38
schestowitzmoneyMar 20 09:39
schestowitzwell...Mar 20 09:39
DaemonFCif it's a useful piece of software, that's because it has to be that good to make moneyMar 20 09:39
schestowitzwelcome to capitalism with no remorseMar 20 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Amazon to Buy #Robot Maker for $775 Million - http://on.mash.to/GArTBZ intriguing: to use or to sell?Mar 20 09:39
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schestowitzwhere exploiting people in China is :"success"Mar 20 09:39
DaemonFCand if it has to be that good to make money it's because they're competing with something elseMar 20 09:39
schestowitzthe effect on society does not kmatterMar 20 09:39
schestowitzin proprietary softwareMar 20 09:39
DaemonFCrightMar 20 09:39
DaemonFCit will be just good enough to sellMar 20 09:40
schestowitzimpact in society=living in a bigger houseMar 20 09:40
DaemonFCand not one bit better than thatMar 20 09:40
schestowitzthat's what success is judged byMar 20 09:40
schestowitznot even sellMar 20 09:40
schestowitzimposeMar 20 09:40
schestowitzgovt. contractsaMar 20 09:40
schestowitzOEM dealsMar 20 09:41
schestowitzBundlesMar 20 09:41
schestowitzetc.Mar 20 09:41
DaemonFCyou can see what I mean with something like Internet Explorer 6Mar 20 09:41
DaemonFCno competition, you get Internet Explorer 6Mar 20 09:41
DaemonFCcompetition rises up, all of a sudden Microsoft hires hundreds of people and the IE budget is back into the millions of dollars a yearMar 20 09:41
scientesDaemonFC, if it was FOSS the development would have never stoppedMar 20 09:42
DaemonFCand if they wipe out the competition again, they fire almost everyone and let it rot againMar 20 09:42
scientes...and would also cost a fraction of what MS is payingMar 20 09:42
scientesand product better software....Mar 20 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @teirdes: report from #v4copyshift http://t.co/eUJWQ2GF #backinbelgiumMar 20 09:42
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scienteswell fraction...$$ is $$Mar 20 09:42
DaemonFCit's reactionary developmentMar 20 09:43
DaemonFCit's common in proprietary softwareMar 20 09:43
DaemonFCit goes through cycles of relative inactivity to cycles of cut throat competitionMar 20 09:43
schestowitz[sarcasm] if you're not making money, you're a failure [/]Mar 20 09:43
schestowitz[sarcasm] if your software does not make you money, it sucks[/]Mar 20 09:44
schestowitz[sarcasm] YYou get what you pay for[/]Mar 20 09:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: Apple's new CEO is starting to burn through the mound of cash that Steve Jobs left behindMar 20 09:44
DaemonFCpaying out dividends and suchMar 20 09:44
schestowitzdoes he?Mar 20 09:45
DaemonFCyeahMar 20 09:45
schestowitzwell, they still have some inertiaMar 20 09:45
schestowitzbut Android is taking away their thunderMar 20 09:45
DaemonFCJobs insisted on stockpiling cashMar 20 09:45
DaemonFCso they're sitting on a lot of it at the momentMar 20 09:45
DaemonFCbut they won't be for long if they start frittering it awayMar 20 09:46
DaemonFCnobody questioned JobsMar 20 09:46
DaemonFChe ran the company basically however he wanted toMar 20 09:46
DaemonFCyou watch, they'll go from a stockpile of a hundred billion dollars back to where they were in the late 90sMar 20 09:47
*schestowitz goes for coffeeMar 20 09:51
*MinceR goes for teaMar 20 09:54
DaemonFCyeah, I put some coffee on Mar 20 09:55
DaemonFCit's not helpingMar 20 09:55
DaemonFC:PMar 20 09:55
schestowitzstill trying to get it going, httpd config'd to run zabbix, the server still doesn't present the gui Mar 20 09:55
schestowitzlet me try for a while longerMar 20 09:55
MinceR105507 <@schestowitz> let me try for a while longerMar 20 09:56
MinceRthat's what she said.Mar 20 09:56
DaemonFCare you done yet?Mar 20 09:56
DaemonFCthat's what she saidMar 20 09:56
DaemonFC:)Mar 20 09:56
schestowitzHeheMar 20 09:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: or in your case, what's what HE saidMar 20 10:00
schestowitzI'm starting to actually type in google.comMar 20 10:01
schestowitzwhen I really have no choiceMar 20 10:01
schestowitzlike it's a disrty siteMar 20 10:01
schestowitzTheuir web site is pushing chrome to meMar 20 10:02
schestowitzno matter what browser I useMar 20 10:02
schestowitzff 3.6, konq, rekonqMar 20 10:02
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schestowitzFound something in this "googeel thing"Mar 20 10:03
schestowitzhttp://www.zabbix.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5563Mar 20 10:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How The Copyright Industry Drives A Big Brother Dystopia http://goo.gl/7hdaWMar 20 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How The #Copyright Industry Drives A Big Brother Dystopia - http://bit.ly/GAgQva look at the facts, look at the patternMar 20 10:06
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MinceR"Silence, slave!! Or do you want me to yank on your leash again?"Mar 20 10:06
MinceR"Ouch! Not so tight, Pharaoh!"Mar 20 10:06
MinceR"That's what she said. Or he, I could go either way, really. And that is also what she said!"Mar 20 10:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] We dared to resist the forced academy conversion of Downhills and were fired http://gu.com/p/36ackMar 20 10:09
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DaemonFCrms forgot to mention that the Android 3 source was releasedMar 20 10:13
DaemonFCbut not until recentlyMar 20 10:13
DaemonFCI don't think anyone would care now that Android 4 is outMar 20 10:13
oiaohmAlso when you see how andriod 3 source stuffs up against flaw checking software you can understand why it was hidden.Mar 20 10:14
oiaohmRMS most likely will not bother about the Android 3 no source release any more.  Ie now you can see the source it makes perfect sence why it was hidden.Mar 20 10:15
DaemonFCthat's still not an excuseMar 20 10:15
DaemonFChiding incompetent code by only releasing it in binary form is what companies like Microsoft, Apple, and Nvidia doMar 20 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USians: Take Action: ISPs Selling Out Customers, Pushing Backdoor SOPA - http://bit.ly/GAjQal remember #SOPA? (v @petermurrayrust)Mar 20 10:17
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oiaohmDaemonFC: google was stating the complete time they wanted no one else building on top of the code base because it had defects.Mar 20 10:17
oiaohmAs the reason they were not releasing the source code.Mar 20 10:17
oiaohmSo yes google was telling the truth.Mar 20 10:18
oiaohmAlso turns out now you have the source you can match it to the old public GIT trees that 3.0 was not marked on either.Mar 20 10:18
oiaohmSo you could not call this hidden from public fully.Mar 20 10:19
Diablo-D3you knowMar 20 10:19
Diablo-D3I dont really blame googleMar 20 10:19
Diablo-D3from what I heard about android 3 is they really botched certain shitMar 20 10:19
MinceRi thought it was so that applications don't start to rely on 3.x hacked to run on smartphones without proper support for phone/tablet portability :>Mar 20 10:19
Diablo-D3they did make good on their promise thoughMar 20 10:19
Diablo-D3ICS has the source availMar 20 10:20
oiaohmDiablo-D3: Yes it makes sense now.Mar 20 10:20
oiaohmDiablo-D3: after the fact it makes full sense why google was doing what they were doing.Mar 20 10:20
oiaohmAt the time people being worried I can understand that as well.Mar 20 10:20
Diablo-D3yeah, they should have just not released android 3 if it was that fuckedMar 20 10:20
Diablo-D3but you had all these dickheads trying to push this "ipad killer" shitMar 20 10:21
Diablo-D3which, well guess whatMar 20 10:21
Diablo-D3the ipad killed itselfMar 20 10:21
Diablo-D3its a fucking failure of a productMar 20 10:21
oiaohmThey need android 3 to test out ideas.Mar 20 10:21
Diablo-D3its too big, its too expensive, and it has the battery life of a gnat.Mar 20 10:21
oiaohmThose ideas end up in Android 4.Mar 20 10:21
Diablo-D3ICS has really polished the honeycomb experience imoMar 20 10:21
schestowitzandroid  is already talked aboutMar 20 10:21
schestowitz*android 5Mar 20 10:21
oiaohmIts like all development you need a dead product now and again to work out Mar 20 10:21
Diablo-D3infact, its actually so mildly decent that I wanna yell at google for not making 2 that goodMar 20 10:22
oiaohmhard problems.Mar 20 10:22
oiaohmDiablo-D3: thing about it 4 is every they learnt from 2 and 3Mar 20 10:22
Diablo-D3yeahMar 20 10:22
oiaohm5 could be another lemon or good one who knows.Mar 20 10:22
Diablo-D3if 5 is a lemon, I dont careMar 20 10:22
Diablo-D34 is enough to make my kf work wellMar 20 10:23
oiaohmEvery time you try a new design you risk a lemon.Mar 20 10:23
MinceRkf?Mar 20 10:23
oiaohmWindows 8 classic example.Mar 20 10:23
schestowitzthey accelerate verison bumps for marketing purpose, like with chrome. 1.5 is still sort of around... and 0.9, 1.0 others were a good while apartMar 20 10:23
Diablo-D3kindle fireMar 20 10:23
Diablo-D3I wanted the hardware, btwMar 20 10:23
MinceRoh.Mar 20 10:23
Diablo-D3fuck amazonMar 20 10:23
Diablo-D3I purchased it for the express purpose to run ICS o nitMar 20 10:23
Diablo-D3so I dont want to hear about amazon's drm or other faggotryMar 20 10:23
Diablo-D3I simply dont give a fuckMar 20 10:23
MinceR:>Mar 20 10:23
Diablo-D3I wanted the hardwareMar 20 10:24
Diablo-D3its the best cheap tablet outMar 20 10:24
schestowitztaxed by MSMar 20 10:24
oiaohmReally it will be intested to see where the year goes in hardware after the rasbery pi.Mar 20 10:24
schestowitzthe price is extortion is the price of your liberty :>\Mar 20 10:24
oiaohmI most likely will get a resbery pi just on cute factor.Mar 20 10:24
Diablo-D3schestowitz: what price extortion?Mar 20 10:25
Diablo-D3its $200Mar 20 10:25
Diablo-D3find a cheaper tablet that isnt fucking failMar 20 10:25
*scientes feels like he should hold his toungue on what he thinks of this: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/123Mar 20 10:26
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oiaohmReally end of year we could have a few selections in that department Diablo-D3Mar 20 10:27
scientes"page not found" wtfMar 20 10:27
oiaohmWith what KDE and other are upto.Mar 20 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Neil deGrasse Tyson is fucking awesome http://identi.ca/url/68185385 !scienceMar 20 10:27
Diablo-D3by the end of the year, sureMar 20 10:27
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Diablo-D3I wanted it now.Mar 20 10:27
scientescheck out the markup on the iPadMar 20 10:27
Diablo-D3you wanna see how bad the ipad is?Mar 20 10:27
scientesmain extortion on tablets is that the chinese bastards dont comply with the GPLMar 20 10:28
Diablo-D3I can get a toshiab thrive 10" for a little over $350Mar 20 10:28
scientesso its a PITA to get hardware supportMar 20 10:28
Diablo-D3its equiv to the ipad 2 (and came out around the same time)Mar 20 10:28
scientesto use custom compiled kernelsMar 20 10:28
schestowitzscientes: it's not extortioinMar 20 10:28
schestowitzit's something elseMar 20 10:28
oiaohmscientes: There is ground being made on the chinese makers.Mar 20 10:28
Diablo-D3but its not a fucking pile of shitMar 20 10:28
scientesschestowitz, trueMar 20 10:28
scientesoiaohm, glad to hear itMar 20 10:28
scientesI hear that ARM is getting tons of action in ther kernelMar 20 10:29
oiaohmscientes: maker of the allwinner chips provide universal instructions to install own kernel.Mar 20 10:29
scientesand the ARM cleanup is leading to improvement even in the x86 tyreeMar 20 10:29
scienteswhere arm drivers are running x86 hardwareMar 20 10:29
schestowitzARM is doing well right nowMar 20 10:29
scientesand the likeMar 20 10:29
oiaohmscientes: this is comeing more common.Mar 20 10:29
scientescause its the same hardwareMar 20 10:29
schestowitzmobile devices, battery as factorMar 20 10:29
schestowitzthey hire some researchers hereMar 20 10:29
scientes<oiaohm> scientes: maker of the allwinner chips provide universal instructions to install own kernel.Mar 20 10:29
scientesschweetMar 20 10:29
*scientes looks forward to a day when every board has a maintained defconfigMar 20 10:29
cubezzzbic-lighter computer == tabletMar 20 10:29
scienteseven if only limited to certainly config optionsMar 20 10:30
oiaohmscientes: even include how to nuke any thrid party installed boot loader.Mar 20 10:30
oiaohmscientes: and replace with your own.Mar 20 10:30
scientesso that you never build a driver to hardware that cant exist on your boardMar 20 10:30
schestowitzhttps://www.jobtrain.co.uk/universityofmanchester/DisplayJob.aspx?pageno=0&htmlpage=JobDisplay&Jobid=18415&txtKeywords=&chkCategory=&lstRegion=&chkSalary=&chksubject=&optMatch=Any&clientid=73&AttachedSAF=0Mar 20 10:30
oiaohmscientes: basically you cannot drm lock a allwinner chip Mar 20 10:30
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scientesbut always have all the drivers you do needMar 20 10:30
scientesalso displaylink is doing cool stuffMar 20 10:30
oiaohmscientes: everything in the allwinner soc it self its drivers are all GPL v2 Mar 20 10:30
scientesthere is a new driver in drm-next that i have been trying to get working....Mar 20 10:30
scientesdrm-udlMar 20 10:31
oiaohmscientes: and the allwinner chip contained the video card.Mar 20 10:31
scientesoiaohm, and where can i guy itMar 20 10:31
scientes!!!!Mar 20 10:31
scientesso its nat a Mali?Mar 20 10:31
scientesor PowerVR?Mar 20 10:31
oiaohmMaliMar 20 10:31
scientesahh, it uses the Lima driverMar 20 10:31
oiaohmallwinner a10 are nice chipsMar 20 10:31
scientesdual/quad core?Mar 20 10:31
DaemonFChttp://news.slashdot.org/story/12/03/20/0124233/ceo-of-tucloud-dares-microsoft-to-sue-his-new-companyMar 20 10:32
oiaohmSingle I think at 1.5 ghzMar 20 10:32
scientesahh, ive seen stuff with that chip onlineMar 20 10:32
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oiaohmSo not slow scientesMar 20 10:32
scienteshmm, for the product i'm considering i think i was a dual coreMar 20 10:32
oiaohmNot the best but hey.Mar 20 10:32
scientes*i wantMar 20 10:32
scienteswe are currently using x86 E350 AMD fusion chipsetMar 20 10:32
schestowitzdo not wantMar 20 10:32
scientesbut with a cheap tablet we could bring the price down a few notchesMar 20 10:33
scientesone with HDMI out, as we are doing multiseatMar 20 10:33
oiaohmscientes: A10 still is woth a look.  http://rhombus-tech.net/Mar 20 10:33
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oiaohmrhombus in card form is expecting to get A10 out door for less than 15 USD.Mar 20 10:34
scientesther performance/$ is still pretty kick-ass on these E350 boardsMar 20 10:34
scienteseven if performance/Watt might not be as goodMar 20 10:34
scientesesp as the FOSS radeon driver is coming along wellMar 20 10:34
oiaohmscientes: are you following rhombus?Mar 20 10:34
scientesnoMar 20 10:34
scientesit doesn't help my case on using ARM that the only ARM I have is a sheevaplugMar 20 10:35
oiaohmscientes: I think you better.Mar 20 10:35
scientesarmv5 stuffMar 20 10:35
oiaohmThey are an newish foundation.Mar 20 10:35
scienteswhich isn't what people are targeting so doesn't have quite the compatibility or performanceMar 20 10:35
oiaohmThere goal is to get cheap hardware out there.Mar 20 10:35
scientes"The second product will be an EOMA-68 Type III (10 watt, 8mm height) card, using the AMD 1ghz Dual-Core T40E CPU with an A55E Controller Hub. With the use of thermally-conductive polymers for the enclosure the cards are properly cooled."Mar 20 10:36
oiaohmYep.Mar 20 10:36
oiaohmThey are doing some interesting tech.Mar 20 10:36
scientesthat looks alot like the E350Mar 20 10:36
scientesits GPU, CPU and northbridge all on the same chipMar 20 10:37
oiaohmExactly.Mar 20 10:37
oiaohmAnd they will be doing volume.Mar 20 10:37
scientesi've got one right hereMar 20 10:37
scientesand the BIOS wait on boot is unbearableMar 20 10:37
scientesbut this one has 12V input which is worth alot for out applicationMar 20 10:37
scientesunlike the E350 supported by corebootMar 20 10:38
scientesthey call it Fusion, also CPU floating point is done on the GPU part of the "APU"Mar 20 10:39
scientesthat A10 board would be a good freedombox applianceMar 20 10:40
scientesas they have already abandoned armv5 as far as i can tell, for armhgMar 20 10:41
oiaohmA10 look good for a lot of things.Mar 20 10:41
scientes*armhfMar 20 10:41
oiaohmLike flash + 1 g of ram for less than 15 dollarsMar 20 10:41
oiaohmKinda opens up a lot of projects.Mar 20 10:41
scienteseven though it was the sheevaplug that initially inspired the projectMar 20 10:41
*scientes was super impressed when he managed to compile a kernel on x86 cross-compiler + arm native compiler at the same time, and it booted and ranMar 20 10:42
scientesusing distccMar 20 10:42
scientes"less than 15 dollars"Mar 20 10:44
scientesnot less, moreMar 20 10:44
scientesmight get down to $25 without a case, on a completely unsubsidized basisMar 20 10:44
scienteswhich is a hell of alot better then the piMar 20 10:44
*scientes is not very interested in purchacing the pi cause it isn't armv7 (hard-float)Mar 20 10:45
scientesthat amd chip supports 3 monitors at the same timeMar 20 10:45
scientes3 hdmis if you wantMar 20 10:46
scientesall at high resMar 20 10:46
scientesplus more on the PCI-E busMar 20 10:46
oiaohmA10 chip is quite cheep.Mar 20 10:51
scientesindeed it isMar 20 10:55
scientesso where can i buy a really cheap one, with 2GB+ ramMar 20 10:56
scientesand i'd still like dual-coreMar 20 10:56
oiaohmscientes: lets see how the year plays out.Mar 20 10:56
oiaohmscientes: allwinner is planing more chips.Mar 20 10:56
scienteswell i'll tell youMar 20 10:57
scientesi was trying to get this product to go ARMMar 20 10:58
scientesfor all the performance, and the fact that you can hit a much lower price pointMar 20 10:58
scientesamong other thingsMar 20 10:58
scientesbut noone is really making desktop-class ARM systems yetMar 20 10:58
scientesor even sub-desktopsMar 20 10:58
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scientes* If DSCMs were bikes, Hg would be the Git bike with the training wheels soldered on.Mar 20 11:02
scientes* If DSCMs were TVs, Git and Hg would turn on to the same channel, but then Git would also have cable.Mar 20 11:02
scientes* If DSCMs were GPS units, both would have places of interest, but Git would also come with the street maps and be able to do driving directions.Mar 20 11:02
scientes* If DSCMs were shoes, you could play basketball in either, but Git would have the pump (for when you needed extra jumping and whatnot)Mar 20 11:02
scientes* If DSCMs were alarm clocks, they would both wake you up, but Git would also make you coffee.Mar 20 11:02
scientes(if you have others, please share - again, the theme is that they're the same out of the box, but then the one is ultimately a lot more useful)Mar 20 11:02
scienteshttp://schacon.github.com/2008/11/24/on-mercurial.htmlMar 20 11:02
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scienteshg == "git lite"Mar 20 11:02
scientesalso, does anyone else wonder what Mark Shuttleworth is smoking in this blog post? http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/123Mar 20 11:03
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schestowitzMinceR: Mar 20 11:09
schestowitzhttp://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/apple/3345303/new-ipad-has-overheating-problem/Mar 20 11:09
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schestowitznot a cool gadgetMar 20 11:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Posting sth with big fat "PLEASE SHARE" only to "extended circles" and NOT to "public" is a sure sign of #FAIL IMHO ;-)Mar 20 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Socialism is a regime that perfectly solves problems that do not exist in any other regime; same for !copyright" !q #v4copyshift !ACTAMar 20 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@teirdes "trademarks need to serve business, balance interests of rightsholders and applicants" consumer protection, of course, unmentionedMar 20 11:51
MinceRindeedMar 20 11:53
MinceRalso, overheating is a typical crApple issueMar 20 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Are libraries resisting open source? http://red.ht/GC8za2 #openeducationMar 20 12:17
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oiaohmMinceR: not really apple argued with the hardware maker they use.Mar 20 12:20
oiaohmMinceR: i call the overheating revenge of hardware maker.Mar 20 12:20
MinceRi don't really care who they pin it onMar 20 12:20
oiaohmMinceR: who makes most of the ipads samsungMar 20 12:27
oiaohmMinceR: who did apple sue recently.Mar 20 12:27
MinceRthat's crApple's problemMar 20 12:27
oiaohmMinceR: Yes sometimes Apple lacks forwards planning.Mar 20 12:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Welcome to the #OpenData User Group - http://bit.ly/GAMczc more good moves by the UK gov on this front #communityMar 20 12:27
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MinceRit doesn't really matter anywayMar 20 12:27
MinceRthe people who are stupid enough to buy crApple don't care about such issues anywayMar 20 12:28
MinceRapparentlyMar 20 12:28
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MinceRthey keep idolizing and hyping hypePhones even though they're bombsMar 20 12:33
MinceR(as in, they explode or overheat)Mar 20 12:33
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oiaohmMinceR: really I would love another round of unstable batteries only in apple devices.Mar 20 12:33
oiaohmPeople want hot devices make them really hot. :)Mar 20 12:33
oiaohmMinceR: yep but we might have a few less after it.Mar 20 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: Patent reform ideas, braindump version http://ur1.ca/8qm66Mar 20 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Jef Raskin's final gift to his son http://identi.ca/url/68188873Mar 20 12:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] torrentblocking by dutch university to be illegal/against #netneutrality says Verhagen - http://bit.ly/GCrmj7 quite (v @adV007) #nlMar 20 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] War is a racket The Scramble For Africa http://goo.gl/smN4s #neocolonialism #konytrojanhorse + http://goo.gl/a8LwIMar 20 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Citizen #Surveillance and the Coming Challenge for Public Institutions - http://bit.ly/GAKGTV yup #privacyMar 20 13:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] KDevelop 4.3 released http://ur1.ca/8qmjrMar 20 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cop Arrests NBC Reporters, Says "Your First Amendment Right Can Be Terminated". - YouTube http://goo.gl/UuKf6 #usa #policestateMar 20 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Kony 2012 NWO sinister logo's and invisible children - 14.03.12 - YouTube http://goo.gl/5RNNr #funny but true... #konytrojanhorseMar 20 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] KONY 2012 EXPOSED - YouTube http://goo.gl/vL8se #konytrojanhorse #usa #stateterrorismMar 20 13:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Grécia a caminho de uma das maiores depressões da história económica mundial-Jornal de negócios http://goo.gl/EkJbd #greece #collapse #imfMar 20 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Ethicality and legality are two orthogonal dimensions" #v4copyshift !copyfraudMar 20 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and Good morning !identiverseMar 20 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] If you already have a slave, you can take it down, copy its files to another server, and start that server up again. It's still error prone.Mar 20 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fedora rejects the Journal, ponders ARM http://ur1.ca/8qn0dMar 20 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Land Destroyer: Globalists Pull Plug on Kony 2012 with Spectacular Crash & Burn http://goo.gl/etjsa #konytrojanhorseMar 20 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I wasn't planning to blog about !FreeByron yesterday, but the !copyright issue needed a look http://www.ur1.ca/8qj9m !CDNpoliMar 20 14:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today I have to get back to work researching e-commerce options for my http://libreleft.com/ !SelfPubMar 20 14:57
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schestowitzseems like a mole made a page for itself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_CurtisMar 20 15:08
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schestowitzhilariousMar 20 15:08
schestowitzthat;s notable?Mar 20 15:08
schestowitzand it's not even well writtenMar 20 15:08
schestowitznot a candidate for deletitonMar 20 15:08
MinceRyou could nominate it :>Mar 20 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Free 3D-Printable Kit To Connect Different Toy Construction Sets Released -- But Partially Blocked Due To Patents - http://bit.ly/GBaa2oMar 20 15:26
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schestowitzI;ve seen people who plug themselves into wikipediaMar 20 15:31
schestowitzfor, well, putting some PDF online on LuluMar 20 15:31
schestowitzor working for Ballmer and then posting spam to LKML about monoMar 20 15:31
schestowitz"flm maker"Mar 20 15:32
schestowitz"What films did you make?"Mar 20 15:32
schestowitz"None. But I'm hoping to publish one, look I got a photo with my idol Linus."Mar 20 15:33
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunnyvale,_California#Largest_employersMar 20 15:34
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schestowitzd0rklandMar 20 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Valid point by iFixIt: "If Apple ships one million iPads today, at 1.44 pounds each, that means 650 metric tons of unr... http://b1t.it/a8QFMar 20 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Dívida das autarquias atinge 12 mil milhões - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/1Xi6g #poucavergonha #ptMar 20 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Land Destroyer: A Year Later, #HRW Admits Syrian Rebels Guilty of Atrocities http://goo.gl/0DywT #syria #nato #usa #stateterrorismMar 20 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK #Copyright Industries Suddenly Become Fans Of #Evidence-Based Policy Making - http://bit.ly/GBHDbd on the road to Damascus...?Mar 20 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] voted for "WebOS"Mar 20 16:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Year Later, HRW Admits Syrian Rebels Guilty of Atrocities http://goo.gl/0DywT aprendam qq coisa @rtppt @SICNoticias e @tvi24_iolMar 20 16:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/r39dc/sunside_games_to_release_crows_radiance_engine_as/Mar 20 16:14
schestowitz"How do I do this mixing and matching of game engines to make what I need?"Mar 20 16:14
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schestowitzmy new adventure at reddit is working out quite well. front pagers too http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/r39dc/sunside_games_to_release_crows_radiance_engine_as/Mar 20 16:15
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schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/r37y9/an_open_letter_to_ubuntu/Mar 20 16:15
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XFaCERoderick_: So you are also a PPCA member?Mar 20 16:16
XFaCEschestowitz: it seems so. Reddit seems like a friendly communityMar 20 16:18
schestowitzI got the opposite impression beforeMar 20 16:20
schestowitzthat's why I never joined inMar 20 16:20
schestowitzalso, it was a rival of oursMar 20 16:20
schestowitzDiggersMar 20 16:20
schestowitzbut with Digg 4 (IIRC) many diggers flocked to RedditMar 20 16:20
schestowitzso many the jerks are outnumbered nowMar 20 16:21
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XFaCEyou still use digg thoMar 20 16:21
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schestowitzdigg is very low in terms of engagement, its founder has joined googleMar 20 16:21
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schestowitzyes. I have been on digg for 6 yearsMar 20 16:22
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schestowitzI used to be most prolific at the comments, I thinkMar 20 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon » The One About Jim Rawles and the FBI Cookie Caper http://goo.gl/3sAhv #preppers using a VPN from a service within US bad ideaMar 20 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] » Secrets KONY 2012 Is Desperate to Hide - Infowars http://goo.gl/xbLyk #usa #africom #konytrojanhorseMar 20 16:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why Do The Labels Continue To Insist That 'Your Money Is No Good Here?' http://goo.gl/mqfMdMar 20 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Media drags 142,000 through UK's courts IN A YEAR - http://bit.ly/GAQVXk interesting analysis #bbc #tv #iplayerMar 20 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet Accounts for 4.7% of the U.S. Economy [STUDY] - http://on.mash.to/GDlJTW maybe we shouldn't mess it up with #ACTA et al.Mar 20 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU commission admits mistake on #Acta - http://bit.ly/GAZjBc still obsessing about #socialnws (v @jerezim)Mar 20 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jobseekers who shunned voluntary scheme forced to do unpaid work http://gu.com/p/36afpMar 20 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Supreme Court saves medical profession from diagnostic #patents - http://bit.ly/GBT2Yw a good win, but not very broadMar 20 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Labour complain about Boris Johnson Twitter 'swap' http://goo.gl/n45OX the arrogance of the elite in full effectMar 20 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Thanks Sen Wyden for proposing JOBS Act amdnts to stop secret Internet treaties like #ACTA #TPPA https://eff.org/r.V7r https://eff.org/r.V6sMar 20 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bad Idea: Internet Service Providers Should Assume Most Digital Locker Content Is 'Illegal' - http://bit.ly/GCCu0q #censorship here we comeMar 20 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Slackware Derivatives: The Superb Mini Server Project http://ur1.ca/8qoue #gnu #linuxMar 20 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://ur1.ca/8qov1Mar 20 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Seasoned Citizen Prepper http://goo.gl/oWuEl #preppersMar 20 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Guest Post: Vinegar and Preparedness….. | http://ur1.ca/7ml2m http://goo.gl/8sFqC #preppersMar 20 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Greg Smith Isn't the First to Leave Goldman Sachs Over Morals http://ur1.ca/8qoz7 not about morals, about fraudMar 20 17:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Greg Smith Isn't the First to Leave Goldman Sachs Over Morals  | The Business Desk with Paul Solman | PBS NewsHour | PBS .::. Size~: 76.06 KBMar 20 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 16 And GNOME Shell: Tested And Reviewed http://ur1.ca/8qkyc #fedora #gnu #linuxMar 20 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Stallman interview explains !FreeSoftware (what !Canada stands to lose via !C11 TPM "protection") http://www.ur1.ca/8qovx /via @openattitudeMar 20 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Humble Android Bundle 2 Goes Live http://ur1.ca/8qp1n http://ur1.ca/8qp1oMar 20 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox is about to get #SPDY http://ur1.ca/8qp2n #mozillaMar 20 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @mopheadf Security is impressed that a little woman like me carries allen keys and regular and precision screwdrivers !FreeByronMar 20 18:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1439872Mar 20 18:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Firefox is about to get #SPDY http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-57400373-12/firefox-is-about-to-get-spdy/ #mozillaMar 20 18:12
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schestowitz"it's already in FF 11, but not activated by default "Mar 20 18:12
schestowitzsame for the MPEG-LA cartelMar 20 18:12
schestowitz"To enable it, go to about:config and set network.http.spdy.enabled to true "Mar 20 18:14
schestowitzXFaCE: MinceR  http://www.muktware.com/articles/3423/xubuntu-project-lead-charlie-kravetz-resignsMar 20 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] ISPs plan to roll out "six strikes" by July 1. We said last year: the deal was made without users at the table https://eff.org/r.3VtMar 20 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mythbuntu To Offer LTS Only Releases http://ur1.ca/8qp5i makes sense. #ubuntuMar 20 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Wired's @bobmcmillan profiles "King of Geeks" Linus Torvalds. They talk code, coffee and the Oscars: http://bit.ly/GBGzRX #linuxMar 20 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] iBerry runs #linux http://ur1.ca/8qp6i will trademarks be used to attack it?Mar 20 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Monsanto's #Roundup threatens stability of global food supply http://goo.gl/p9XCQ #gmoMar 20 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff ISPs plan to roll out "six strikes" by July 1. We said last year: the deal was made without users at the table https://eff.org/r.3VtMar 20 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @laurelrusswurm Stallman interview explains !FreeSoftware (what !Canada stands to lose via !C11 TPM "protection") http://www.ur1.ca/8 ...Mar 20 18:22
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I enable SPDY in FirefoxMar 20 18:23
DaemonFCI also enable HTTP pipelining and set maximum requests to 16Mar 20 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @trashbird1240 Happy Birthday @RMS #gnu #fsf =]Mar 20 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Great post by Mada CEO on how #CC licenses are supporting access for persons w/disabilities @CCQatar: http://bit.ly/wMHkATMar 20 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #mustread. #nuffsaid. http://ur1.ca/8qp7iMar 20 18:24
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DaemonFCFirefox has some heuristics that try to figure out if the server is having problems with that and disables it on a per-case basisMar 20 18:25
DaemonFCthe only servers that really have a problem with Pipelining are older versions of Microsoft IISMar 20 18:25
DaemonFCnot that Mozilla has ever named and shamed themMar 20 18:25
DaemonFCthey just say "It's not supported by some servers"Mar 20 18:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1439872Mar 20 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Firefox is about to get #SPDY http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-57400373-12/firefox-is-about-to-get-spdy/ #mozillaMar 20 18:26
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schestowitz"actived by defaut in FF 13 :"Mar 20 18:26
schestowitzand mpeg-laMar 20 18:26
schestowitzalmostMar 20 18:26
schestowitzpost on that coming.... tomorrow probablyMar 20 18:26
DaemonFCI don't see the problem with using system codecs that are already thereMar 20 18:26
DaemonFCtheir point is validMar 20 18:26
DaemonFCuser sees something doesn't work in Firefox that works in ChromeMar 20 18:26
DaemonFCuser ditches Firefox, uses ChromeMar 20 18:26
DaemonFCit's disgusting, but it's lifeMar 20 18:27
DaemonFCoh wellMar 20 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 23 years on and still people don't get free software http://ur1.ca/8qp8g #fsf #gnuMar 20 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] iFixit's Kyle Wiens on How to Dismantle the War on DIY Electronics http://www.ur1.ca/8qpa4 < !C11 will make computer DIY illegal in !CanadaMar 20 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung releases Galaxy S II Android 4.0 source code http://ur1.ca/8qpda #linux #androidMar 20 18:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] New study: Radiation treatments create cancer cells 30 times more potent than regular cancer cells http://goo.gl/H8wy4 #bigpharmaMar 20 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 1. buy politicians. 2. pass new laws to legalise the unthinkable. 3. do the unthinkable. 4. pass laws to illegalise competition, critics.Mar 20 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cancer industry trying to co-opt most recent potential natural cure - frankincense http://goo.gl/FuXIx #bigpharmaMar 20 18:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today patent law: 'owning' ideas. Original patent law: publishing ideas. Apple: suppressing ideas.Mar 20 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZorinOS 6 Lite is released http://ur1.ca/8qpjc #gnu #linuxMar 20 18:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OSI's new Board http://ur1.ca/8qpk8 #osi #opensourceMar 20 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "" http://ur1.ca/8qpkcMar 20 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Summer of Code 2012: mentoring organisations announced http://ur1.ca/8qplc #gsocMar 20 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Boswellia serrata http://goo.gl/ub7nA - frankincense http://goo.gl/FuXIx can anyone from Oman, Saudi Arabia or Yemen send me seeds? thanksMar 20 18:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] The N9: what MeeGo could have been http://ur1.ca/8qponMar 20 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @nathan I've decided i need to be with youMar 20 18:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tough time for #mozilla - just lost major talent: http://ur1.ca/8qpqr (Mozilla web platform chief Chris Blizzard exits for startup)Mar 20 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ROTFL. #facepalm #nsfw http://ur1.ca/8qprgMar 20 19:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Turns out you can grow frankincense in the US; You just have to live in Arizona http://goo.gl/Vx2Xz #preppers see why http://goo.gl/A7lHPMar 20 19:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Turns out you can grow frankincense in the U.S.; You just have to live in Arizona. And be really, really dedicated. |   | The Bulletin .::. Size~: 41.06 KBMar 20 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's Open Source!Mar 20 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The @LinuxFoundation learned that by pooling funds and bribing the #IDG monster it can reduce the # of anti-Linux 'studies'.Mar 20 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @wikipedia: On Wikipedia and @wikimedia, every article and piece of code is free for anyone to use, reuse, and improve: ur1.ca/8qp4qMar 20 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] I am a wimp for turning in this early but I am BEAT! !tzaf !identiverse. Good night people in or near my timezone.Mar 20 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "OK Go-Pid" http://identi.ca/url/68199099 Indeed. #okgo #okcupid #okgopidMar 20 19:14
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92035943Mar 20 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-12 19:10:09 UTC - Identi.ca: #IDG seems to have not collected a bribe from #google in a while, so it conducts smear 'studies' now. Nice biz model you got there. #idcMar 20 19:18
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92034770Mar 20 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-12 18:29:02 UTC - Identi.ca: New Motorola phone elbows RAZR aside with bigger screen, gets caught on blurrycam http://ur1.ca/8qpbi #android #linuxMar 20 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ah the linux clipboard, you made someone laugh today. :) (Possibly NSFW) http://ur1.ca/8qpxl #LOLMar 20 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rackspace's open source cocktail: Whiskey on Apache http://ur1.ca/8qpyk #apacheMar 20 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Did you ever think a topic on "Chrome builders vs Chromium Builders" could be NFSW ? http://ur1.ca/8qpz5... http://b1t.it/a8XsMar 20 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think you should do all 3.Mar 20 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Indoor urban farm in New York helps feed hundreds of families http://goo.gl/txGz9 #preppers #urbanfarmMar 20 19:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Power Management Phases For Linux 3.4 Kernel http://ur1.ca/8qq31 #linux #kernelMar 20 19:27
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koolhead17schestowitz, hello thereMar 20 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] RT @schestowitz New Power Management Phases For Linux 3.4 Kernel http://ur1.ca/8qq31 #linux #kernelMar 20 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] A Site to Trade Lives and Trade Dreams (Hyperallergic): http://bit.ly/GBHiq7Mar 20 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeedMar 20 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] as I recall, that was when people were taking a shower, no?Mar 20 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] nor meMar 20 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] mild ones, I imagine (I can't remember...)Mar 20 19:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Greg KH Readies for Collaboration Summit, Talks Raspberry Pi (Linux.com) http://ur1.ca/8qq50Mar 20 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] All good ideas come from the head... bit.ly/GB5Fla #PHDComix !memesMar 20 19:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1440060#Mar 20 19:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tough time for #mozilla - just lost major talent: http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/mozilla-web-platform-chief-chris-blizzard-exits-startup/2012-03-19 (Mozilla web platform chief Chris Blizzard exits for startup)Mar 20 19:43
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schestowitz"Ah, man. :/ Chris has been with them for as long as I can remember."Mar 20 19:43
schestowitzHe's also a FOSS proponent including LinuxMar 20 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 20/3/2012: Cyanogenmod 7.2, Humble Android Bundle 2, OSI’s New Board http://ur1.ca/8qqf5 #techrightsMar 20 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unanimous Supreme Court decision invalidates Prometheus diagnostic test patents - http://bit.ly/GE0Msa good, detailed analysis #brcaMar 20 19:49
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unanimous Supreme Court decision invalidates Prometheus diagnostic test patents and reverses Federal Circuit decision | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 25.03 KBMar 20 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: How The #Copyright Industry Drives A Big Brother Dystopia - http://bit.ly/GAgQva look at the facts, look at the patternMar 20 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @evan if you run a full data dump of an empty server just after setting it up, does that not enable you to create slaves from it much later?Mar 20 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The Game. I just lost it. !memesMar 20 19:57
DaemonFCwell, considering the prevailing opinions in government Mozilla at present, I can see why he leftMar 20 20:01
DaemonFC*governing MozillaMar 20 20:01
DaemonFCit's clear that Mozilla doesn't value software freedomMar 20 20:02
DaemonFCthey're more concerned with open sourceMar 20 20:02
DaemonFCthey've been taken over by the "if your source code is out there, you get people developing your software for you" mentalityMar 20 20:02
DaemonFCinstead of the mentality that giving users freedom is the most important thingMar 20 20:03
DaemonFCthey host a lot of nonfree softwareMar 20 20:03
DaemonFCin their add-onsMar 20 20:03
DaemonFCthey make decisions to give better support to nonfree platforms, like WindowsMar 20 20:03
DaemonFCI can see why a free software proponent would find the atmosphere at Mozilla uncomfortable Mar 20 20:04
DaemonFCfree software is a side effect, not the goal, with Mozilla softwareMar 20 20:04
DaemonFCbut the same thing is true with ChromiumMar 20 20:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1439972Mar 20 20:04
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 1. buy politicians. 2. pass new laws to legalise the unthinkable. 3. do the unthinkable. 4. pass laws to illegalise competition, critics. 5. profit!Mar 20 20:04
schestowitz"You missed the ???. :P "Mar 20 20:05
schestowitzNot enough space :-)Mar 20 20:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1439790Mar 20 20:05
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Mar 20 20:05
schestowitz"well damn did your daughter post something about you on facebook too? "Mar 20 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is jpope from micro.jpope.org with 50 dents!Mar 20 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag IdentizensMar 20 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @SPARC_NA: FRPAA -- Two dozen new co-sponsors and a Congressional Briefing! bit.ly/GBH3eD #FRPAA #openaccessMar 20 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus Torvalds: The King of Geeks (And Dad of 3) http://ur1.ca/8qqpa #linux #kernelMar 20 20:12
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schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriabarret/2012/03/20/oracle-needs-a-comeback/Mar 20 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exploring DIY Linux Router Distros http://ur1.ca/8qqt5 #linux #routerMar 20 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] anyone know if #PhpFreeChat can be set to be read only in real time for people not logged into a chat room, while others can log in & chat?Mar 20 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://goo.gl/SZHS2 << sorry, forgot the link to #PhpFreeChatMar 20 20:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Linus Torvalds: (Mr Linux) The King of Geeks (And Dad of 3) http://ur1.ca/8qqx7Mar 20 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Kony 2012: After-marketing? US deploys Special Forces troops to "stop LRA" #WikiLeaks #Cablegate #Kony2012 https://t.co/t0iGJdKNMar 20 20:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @colivre: Já registrou seu apoio à carta aberta ao @inpibrasil contra as patentes de software no Brasil? http://ow.ly/9M210 #INPIMar 20 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The rules of the Hunger Games are simple. In punishment for the uprising, each of the twelve districts must provide on... http://b1t.it/a8ZiMar 20 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if I have it right, no account = cancel the login window and it works in read only mode, which is what I'm looking for #PhpFreeChatMar 20 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre 2.6.32.59-libre2-lemote and 2.6.27.62-libre5-lemote binary .debs for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now availableMar 20 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Adrian Cockcroft's Blog: Ops, DevOps and NoOps at Netflix http://bit.ly/GBafjsMar 20 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Etsy responds to netflix's concept of NoOps: http://bit.ly/GEchQpMar 20 20:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GCC 5.0 set for a modular future? http://ur1.ca/8qr08 #gcc #gnu #fsfMar 20 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adrian Cockcroft's Blog: Ops, DevOps and NoOps at Netflix .::. Size~: 88.17 KBMar 20 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reply to http://perfcap.blogspot.com/2012/03/ops-devops-and-noops-at-netflix.html — Gist .::. Size~: 24.91 KBMar 20 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks and the hunt for Kony | NYU http://t.co/QNVjseeOMar 20 20:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wikileaks And Kony 2012: Does the U.S. Allow The Ugandan Government To Commit War Crimes? · NYU Local .::. Size~: 37.14 KBMar 20 20:41
orionsonofneptunok /j #channel dont work why???Mar 20 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Photonic chips made easier (Nature): http://bit.ly/GEg6GoMar 20 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Photonic chips made easier : Nature News & Comment .::. Size~: 51.75 KBMar 20 20:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Is all the product placement in Neuromancer a literary device or product placement.Mar 20 20:44
MinceRorionsonofneptun: it can be for a number of reasons, including your client not having the /j alias for /joinMar 20 20:45
orionsonofneptuni got it i was bannedMar 20 20:45
MinceRwhich channel?Mar 20 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GCC 5.0 set for a modular future? - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/Zqjvl #flossMar 20 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] KDevelop 4.3 arrives with #KDE Projects integration - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/YlQqCMar 20 20:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GCC 5.0 set for a modular future? - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.99 KBMar 20 20:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] Fedora 16 And GNOME: Tested and Reviewed by @tomshardware: http://2tu.us/4vc6Mar 20 20:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora 16 And GNOME Shell: Tested And Reviewed : A First Look At Fedora And GNOME Shell .::. Size~: 133.28 KBMar 20 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BorisJohnson backs down over mayoral Twitter account http://gu.com/p/36b35 typical smiley #Tory - abuse the system at every chanceMar 20 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Boris Johnson backs down over mayoral Twitter account | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 177.1 KBMar 20 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's incredible that politicians feel it's perfectly right to abuse public resources for their own partisan campaigns - totally out of touchMar 20 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Queen vows to continue serving http://goo.gl/2sHwM of course she does, she's on the mother of all gravy trains, she's not stoopidMar 20 21:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Queen vows to continue serving |                 UK news |         The Guardian .::. Size~: 55.38 KBMar 20 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 3/20/2012 -- Global earthquake activity = 7.6M , 7.9M in Mexico PLUS 6.2M in Indonesia - YouTube http://goo.gl/JE907 #preppers alertMar 20 21:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The rate of change is too much.Mar 20 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] starting to think B;ackburn will dodge the relegation bullet this season; against all expectation !footballMar 20 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A lot of FLOSS audiocasters do not want to be podcasters.Mar 20 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Timber......Mar 20 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] In case anyone missed this from 2 months ago Lockdown The coming war on general-purpose computing http://boingboing.ne... http://b1t.it/a80DMar 20 21:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - The Coming War On General Computation I watched this… .::. Size~: 89.42 KBMar 20 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How #Sony Got Off Easy With Its 'Settlement' In Class Action Lawsuit By Underpaid Artists http://goo.gl/HPsKGMar 20 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Sony Got Off Easy With Its 'Settlement' In Class Action Lawsuit By Underpaid Artists | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.12 KBMar 20 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sochack: W Dzienniku Interautów o weekendowym hakatonie: http://ur1.ca/8qqqu #sochackedu cc @dziennikMar 20 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Po społecznym hakatonie o edukacji SocHack:Edu  - Kalendarium IT .::. Size~: 102.09 KBMar 20 21:56
sebsebseboh hi _Goblin :)Mar 20 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google is the least open part of Android http://ur1.ca/8qro5 #android #linuxMar 20 21:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google is the least open part of Android – Cell Phones & Mobile Device Technology News & Updates | Geek.com .::. Size~: 64.67 KBMar 20 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linpus Lite Desktop 1.7 review http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/03/19/linpus-lite-desktop-1-7-review/ #gnu #linuxMar 20 22:02
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schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/r5kfe/linus_torvalds_the_king_of_geeks_and_dad_of_3/Mar 20 22:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linus Torvalds: The King of Geeks (And Dad of 3) : linux .::. Size~: 46.45 KBMar 20 22:03
schestowitz"Mar 20 22:03
schestowitzLast year, Intel invited Torvalds and Tove to a pre-Oscar party in Hollywood, where he rubbed elbows with the likes of Robert Downey Jr., who didn’t know who he was, and Mad Men star Jon Hamm, who did.Mar 20 22:03
schestowitzBest line of the article, and now I have even more reasons to love Jon Hamm.Mar 20 22:03
schestowitz"Mar 20 22:03
schestowitz"I never knew that Steve Jobs tried to hire Linus. Can you imagine what would have happened to Linux if he stopped working on Linux in 2000! git may never have been created!"Mar 20 22:04
schestowitz"I never knew that Steve Jobs tried to hire Linus. Can you imagine what whttp://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/r4uor/the_linux_setup_jon_maddog_hall_linux/ould have happened to Linux if he stopped working on Linux in 2000! git may never have been created!"Mar 20 22:04
schestowitz"Mar 20 22:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Linux Setup - Jon “maddog” Hall, Linux International : linux .::. Size~: 43.97 KBMar 20 22:04
schestowitz"I have no “favorite software” other than vim"Mar 20 22:04
schestowitzMy man.Mar 20 22:04
schestowitz"Mar 20 22:04
schestowitzha!Mar 20 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !OpenBSD bugs are so rare they're worth collecting http://ping.fm/y8kDdMar 20 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview: Richard Stallman http://ur1.ca/8qrra #fsf #gnuMar 20 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] We joined eight civil liberties organizations to demand the release of five detained Vietnamese bloggers https://eff.org/r.V7v #netfreedomMar 20 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OpenBSD bug in the random() function - Banu Blog .::. Size~: 41.41 KBMar 20 22:09
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Human Rights and Free Expression Groups Demand Release of Vietnamese Bloggers | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.89 KBMar 20 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 8 Free Open Source Alternatives To Microsoft Exchange http://ur1.ca/8qrtd #emailMar 20 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] LOL ---> " In any case, we are looking at a total past damage figure that is likely under $100 million, not $6 billion... http://b1t.it/a81wMar 20 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 8 Free Open Source Alternatives To Microsoft Exchange - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 116.7 KBMar 20 22:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - I can't help but laugh at this. .::. Size~: 82.66 KBMar 20 22:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/182226202008883200?iid=am-212786989413322810870584382&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Mar 20 22:14
TechrightsBot-tr@koolhead17: @schestowitz aah. It comes with ACER lappy. :)Mar 20 22:14
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92040573Mar 20 22:17
TechrightsBot-tr@Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-12 22:03:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz #Linpus is alive? /me says in #BrainBlessed #FlashGordon voiceMar 20 22:17
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Second-openSUSE-12-2-milestone-arrives-for-testing-1476058.htmlMar 20 22:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Second openSUSE 12.2 milestone arrives for testing - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.27 KBMar 20 22:17
schestowitzomg bballnuxMar 20 22:20
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92040875Mar 20 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-12 22:17:00 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz they missed some big players: Zimbra & Zarafa.Mar 20 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] take from the poor, give to the rich - Senator Robin HoodMar 20 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Good Evening !IdentiverseMar 20 22:22
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/92038595Mar 20 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-12 20:40:30 UTC - Identi.ca: ♺ @schestowitz Rackspace's #opensource cocktail: #Whiskey [ #cloud "test isolation & process orchestration"] on #Apache http://ur1.ca/8qpykMar 20 22:22
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Rackspace's open source cocktail: Whiskey on Apache - Open Source Insider .::. Size~: 27.23 KBMar 20 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Better access to public sector information moves a step closer - Invest in UK http://ping.fm/6jOoVMar 20 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Not just tonight but going back a bit Noel Fielding who is wonderfull on the Mighty Boosh is a bit of a bully on Buzzcocks with the bairnsMar 20 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Better access to public sector information moves a step closer | Invest in UK .::. Size~: 28.14 KBMar 20 22:24
DaemonFCat least they're using GRUB 2 nowMar 20 22:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @hook @vlax @wildcard: Basically that's using terrorism as an excuse for hidden terrorism.Mar 20 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Are libraries resisting !opensource? http://ping.fm/5MPZ1Mar 20 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are libraries resisting open source? | opensource.com .::. Size~: 50.74 KBMar 20 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Yesterday I found out what the default background for !Mageia 2 will probably be. #MageiaMar 20 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What has been interesting is the 80/20 rule in systems. How does capitalism ever begin to justify the inequality...tell me. fill your boots.Mar 20 22:32
DaemonFCMarion's isn'tMar 20 22:33
DaemonFCI was in their city library a while backMar 20 22:34
DaemonFCall their systems are running a derivative of Fedora called UserfulMar 20 22:34
DaemonFCbut the library in my town is still using Windows XPMar 20 22:34
DaemonFCbut al least they hid IE and promote FirefoxMar 20 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How To Secure DNS with #DNSCrypt - e !Security Planet http://ping.fm/lfAkCMar 20 22:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How To Secure DNS with DNSCrypt - eSecurity Planet .::. Size~: 49.54 KBMar 20 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Yesterday I found out what the default background for !Mageia 2 will be. Unless #Mageia branding is added, but that probably won't happen.Mar 20 22:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australian PM changes extradition law so ppl (Assange?) can be extradited to US on minor offenses http://t.co/nIexweAL #auspolMar 20 22:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Extradition and Mutual Assistance Changes Slip in under the Radar  |  Castan Centre for Human Rights Law .::. Size~: 97.73 KBMar 20 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What you need to know about the budget. Money will be taken from the poor and givem to the ritch. It would be more but poor are revoltingMar 20 22:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks-Gründer Julian Assange spricht mit der WSWS https://t.co/IvVchLvaMar 20 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks-Gründer Julian Assange spricht mit der WSWS .::. Size~: 33.44 KBMar 20 22:52
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92041127Mar 20 22:54
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Mar-12 22:27:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Naming Fedora 18, The Beefy Miracle Successor http://ur1.ca/8qrxq #fedora #redhat #gnu #linuxMar 20 22:54
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: [Phoronix] Naming Fedora 18, The Beefy Miracle Successor .::. Size~: 17.22 KBMar 20 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 18 Picks Up New Features, Rejects Systemd-Journal http://ur1.ca/8qs6a #fedoraMar 20 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Awesome the #AppStream project has been revived :)! http://ur1.ca/8qs5c !Mageia #Mageia #OpenSuse #Fedora #Ubuntu #DebianMar 20 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Fedora 18 Picks Up New Features, Rejects Systemd-Journal .::. Size~: 20.54 KBMar 20 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Mageia-dev] Fwd: Reviving AppStream and current status .::. Size~: 10.82 KBMar 20 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] ♻ @sjsf: 3-year-old in a wheelchair gets #TSA patdown. CNN: http://bit.ly/GBi3jP // Seriously? WTF is wrong with TSA bosses?Mar 20 22:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'd not heard of him before, @kete but Wikipedia clued me in... rebranding propaganda as public relations, Bernays has a lot to answer for.Mar 20 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dad says son was scared by TSA patdown – Starting Point with Soledad O'Brien - CNN.com Blogs .::. Size~: 110.71 KBMar 20 22:59
DaemonFChttp://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/410447/thats-a-security-cameraMar 20 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: That's a Security Camera (Season 16, Episode 1) - Video Clips  - South Park Studios .::. Size~: 112.72 KBMar 20 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] "towel heads...camel jockies...black dems...ChiComs" Stratfor racist came from the US State Dept http://t.co/rDvE48kk #giFilesMar 20 23:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fred Burton, Stratfor VP for Racist Slurs | Al Akhbar English .::. Size~: 38.68 KBMar 20 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Dangerously vague #cybe security legislation threatens civil liberties https://eff.org/r.V7wMar 20 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dangerously Vague Cybersecurity Legislation Threatens Civil Liberties | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 42.99 KBMar 20 23:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Twitter storm hits Boris after he 'appropriates' Mayor's official account - Telegraph.co.uk http://ping.fm/7HaqaMar 20 23:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter storm hits Boris after he 'appropriates' Mayor's official account - Telegraph .::. Size~: 67.91 KBMar 20 23:06
DaemonFChttp://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/410450/security-breachMar 20 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security Breach (Season 16, Episode 1) - Video Clips  - South Park Studios .::. Size~: 112.75 KBMar 20 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] #TheApprentice starts again tomorrow awesome! Plus it's #Fringe again tomorrow so even more awesome :)!Mar 20 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] “The Radicalisation of Bradley Manning” is the World’s First Hyperlinked Theatre Production | PP http://t.co/qhKl22wnMar 20 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @NadiaNaffe: Process servers are on campus trying to serve me w/subpoena to transfer O'keefe's emails + O'keefe is making legal threa ...Mar 20 23:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Database Error .::. Size~: 0.25 KBMar 20 23:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/metacode/status/182232626155880448?iid=am-130280753913322826185956356&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Mar 20 23:21
TechrightsBot-tr@metacode: Interview: Richard Stallman http://t.co/MemCRxD7 (@Schestowitz) Interesting interview from the recent #RMS visit 2 #Iran #FOSS #ICT4D #LinuxMar 20 23:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1438203Mar 20 23:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New, High-End Laptop Offers Linux Preinstalled http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/251991/new_highend_laptop_offers_linux_preinstalled.html #gnu #linuxMar 20 23:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: New, High-End Laptop Offers Linux Preinstalled | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 81.05 KBMar 20 23:23
schestowitzCan't seem to figure out how they justify a price like that. A linux distro should, theoretically, drive the price down. I mean, these are apple prices! Huh? ""Mar 20 23:23
schestowitzthe price of freedomMar 20 23:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1440116Mar 20 23:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ah the linux clipboard, you made someone laugh today. :) (Possibly NSFW) https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/Xz1yyBdCXAQ#116015965439782966698/posts/Xz1yyBdCXAQ #LOLMar 20 23:24
schestowitz"The end link has been removed. Nothing there. "Mar 20 23:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Jorge Castro - Google+ - Ah the linux clipboard, you made someone laugh today. :)… .::. Size~: 85.67 KBMar 20 23:24
schestowitzindeed, it's all gone. Google saved the poor sod the embarrassmentMar 20 23:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] back from [redacted] so soon @parlementum ?Mar 20 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the Queen has to publicly rededicate herself to us, WTF was she doing before? And why has she been living the high life for off-par shit?Mar 20 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Founders Of #Marvell Technology Group Are Among The Largest Victims Of Greed At #GoldmanSachs http://ur1.ca/8qshb #usMar 20 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Founders Of Marvell Technology Group Are Among The Largest Victims Of Greed At Goldman Sachs - TheStreet .::. Size~: 88.65 KBMar 20 23:29
schestowitzoh coolMar 20 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] e-commerce ? My brain hurts ... surely there's a non-evil way to sell the odd book online direct that doesn't involve a #chequeinthemailMar 20 23:31
schestowitzTom Steinberg – Open Government - tom@mysociety.orgMar 20 23:31
schestowitz"Roy Schestowitz – Boycott Novell site - r@schestowitz.com ; Freelance journalist @ http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/ ; expert in software patents"Mar 20 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Datamation: IT Management, IT Salary, Cloud Computing, Open Source, Virtualization, Apps. .::. Size~: 65.34 KBMar 20 23:31
schestowitzhttp://p2pfoundation.net/List_of_European_Policy_ConsultantsMar 20 23:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: List of European Policy Consultants - P2P Foundation .::. Size~: 53.67 KBMar 20 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Former Blackwater director took part in Gaddafi killing, now sent to assist Syrian opposition | al Akhbar http://t.co/UwIIqhcyMar 20 23:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Mercenary “Took Part” in Gaddafi Killing; Sent to Assist Syrian opposition | Al Akhbar English .::. Size~: 48.32 KBMar 20 23:32
DaemonFChttp://pastebin.com/UgkpvSzKMar 20 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google developer slips - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 13.77 KBMar 20 23:33
DaemonFCsomeone pasted it there before Google disappeared itMar 20 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Word of mouth and respect for author,Mar 20 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JohnCarter flop to cost #WaltDisney $200m http://goo.gl/b6mvB #Hollywood accounting ensures EVERY movie is a flop to avoid paying royaltieMar 20 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - John Carter flop to cost Walt Disney $200m .::. Size~: 69.71 KBMar 20 23:34
schestowitzheh. matt had an unusual resort choice http://ma.tt/2012/02/ethiopia-2/dsc00759/#imageMar 20 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Image AdWords — Matt Mullenweg .::. Size~: 28.71 KBMar 20 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff Dangerously vague #cybe security legislation threatens civil liberties https://eff.org/r.V7wMar 20 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Netflix Latest Company to Laugh at Your Legal #Rights - Yet Another Company Includes Binding Arbitration Language http://ping.fm/cR69aMar 20 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dangerously Vague Cybersecurity Legislation Threatens Civil Liberties | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 42.94 KBMar 20 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netflix Latest Company to Laugh at Your Legal Rights - Yet Another Company Includes Binding Arbitration Language | DSLReports.com, ISP Information .::. Size~: 42.3 KBMar 20 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Løgnene om massakren i Bala Baluk | Aftenposten https://t.co/msEZG8xlMar 20 23:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Løgnene om massakren i Bala Baluk - Aftenposten .::. Size~: 67.72 KBMar 20 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Very good interview on Assange extradition | ABC http://t.co/bOYfluSy #auspol #svpolMar 20 23:52
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