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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69620-Linux-Kernel-May-Gain-VMUFAT-File-System-Support&p=255340#post255340Mar 23 00:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Kernel May Gain VMUFAT File-System Support .::. Size~: 55.86 KBMar 23 00:11
DaemonFChttp://danwalsh.livejournal.com/55324.htmlMar 23 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dan Walsh's Blog - Eating my own dogfood. .::. Size~: 41.42 KBMar 23 00:14
DaemonFCthe SELinux guy messes up his own system with itMar 23 00:14
formic_selinux is awesomeMar 23 00:22
DaemonFCso awesome it even stops you from using the computerMar 23 00:23
DaemonFCnot just remote attackersMar 23 00:23
formic_only if your dumbMar 23 00:23
DaemonFCwell if the guy who maintains it manages to fuck himself with itMar 23 00:24
DaemonFCthen I'm not sure I can manage to work around the problems it causesMar 23 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag It's night time here and hello !Identiverse :).Mar 23 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: Lights Out (9780615427355): David Crawford: Books http://goo.gl/sTfZw #books #preppersMar 23 00:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia Bug Squash Party http://ur1.ca/8ru2q Friday 23rd March 4pm CET 3pm GMT/UTC to Monday 25th March 10pm CEST 9pm BST 8pm UTC. #MageiaMar 23 00:47
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sebsebsebmy dent is a bit wrong let's re do thatMar 23 00:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia Bug Squash Party http://ur1.ca/8ru2q Friday 23rd March 4pm CET 3pm GMT/UTC to Monday 26th March 10pm CEST 9pm BST 8pm UTC. #MageiaMar 23 00:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Required Reading for Survival - YouTube http://goo.gl/nYuy1 #books #preppersMar 23 00:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] @EFF's post on the fake YouTube site targeting Syrian activists with malware, now in Arabic: https://eff.org/r.1VN #SyriaMar 23 00:55
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prurigroformic_, I hear selinux is actually quite breakable, and is mostly good like a security system is good in that it prevents less apt criminals from breaking in, or makes your compy less desirable to hack than your neighbours if either are just as goodMar 23 00:57
prurigroboth DaemonFC and cjd mentioned another system that works far better (though is way more complex to configure) a couple months ago-- I can't place its name atm thoughMar 23 00:58
*prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3Mar 23 00:59
DaemonFCI think AppArmor is certainly more manageable, and probably at least as secure when you pair it up with YamaMar 23 00:59
DaemonFCthere's no complicated shell-script like language to learn to start writing policiesMar 23 01:00
DaemonFCand I like thatMar 23 01:00
prurigroyama is?Mar 23 01:00
DaemonFCit also means that if the policy starts misbehaving, you tweak a line or twoMar 23 01:00
DaemonFCreload itMar 23 01:00
DaemonFCand it worksMar 23 01:00
DaemonFCYama is symlink, hardlink, and ptrace restrictionsMar 23 01:00
DaemonFC\and it is being upstreamedMar 23 01:00
DaemonFCyayMar 23 01:01
prurigroahh word, so similar to part of the backend of selinux?Mar 23 01:01
DaemonFCyeahMar 23 01:02
DaemonFCit plugs the whole problem of "bypassing apparmor with a link"Mar 23 01:02
prurigroand apparmor is like the rest + a nice gui config tool I'm guessing?Mar 23 01:02
DaemonFCand adds ptrace hardening comparable to SELinuxMar 23 01:02
DaemonFCyes, they're designed to work well togetherMar 23 01:02
DaemonFCyou can use them separately, but they won't be as effectiveMar 23 01:02
prurigroword, makes sense to use em together in that case yea-- do you employ such a setup?Mar 23 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Doomsday #Preppers Season 01 Episode 02 in Full, I hope I am Crazy. - YouTube http://goo.gl/BZBmvMar 23 01:03
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DaemonFCon Kubuntu I doMar 23 01:05
DaemonFCon Fedora I just leave SELinux on and fix its fuck ups with audit to allowMar 23 01:06
DaemonFCbut SELinux is a mess to try to deal with as a userMar 23 01:06
DaemonFCwith the apparmor-profiles package and all profiles to enforce, they're covering pretty much any target that is tempting for a remote attacker nowMar 23 01:07
DaemonFCincluding Telepathy and FirefoxMar 23 01:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] How come, I still see dents of accounts I've blocked on identi.ca?Mar 23 01:08
DaemonFChmmmMar 23 01:08
DaemonFCprurigro: http://pastebin.com/HvFhT6z2Mar 23 01:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opera 11.10 AppArmor profile - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 24.31 KBMar 23 01:09
DaemonFCsomeone copied an AppArmor profile I wrote for Opera 11.10Mar 23 01:09
DaemonFCI see a few mistakes I made in syntax though, but it shouldn't matterMar 23 01:10
prurigrohmm, yea, what I saw of it (also through Fedora), it ends up having so many random questionable violations, the user's gonna end up getting used to clocking ignore/ok instead of actually considering each issueMar 23 01:12
prurigroand word, sweet- thanks :)Mar 23 01:13
DaemonFChttp://pastebin.com/hrNE4bGEMar 23 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pidgin AppArmor profile - Pastebin.com .::. Size~: 22.85 KBMar 23 01:13
DaemonFCI wrote that tooMar 23 01:13
prurigrosweet-- got em saved to use an example when playing around with it in the near future :)Mar 23 01:15
DaemonFCI didn't comment the Pidgin one very wellMar 23 01:15
DaemonFCand some obvious syntax changes need to be made to both of themMar 23 01:15
DaemonFCbut they should be a startMar 23 01:16
DaemonFCand obviously you're going to want to change the abstractions if you don't use KDEMar 23 01:16
DaemonFCand so on so on so onMar 23 01:16
prurigroword, yea, sometimes its just nice to see a general idea of how something should lookMar 23 01:16
prurigroyou also abstracted gnomeMar 23 01:17
prurigrodoes kde include backends if I used certain kde apps in gnome?Mar 23 01:17
DaemonFCoh that's right, never tested it though :)Mar 23 01:17
prurigrohaha toucheMar 23 01:17
DaemonFCI just figured "What the hell? Someone might try loading this in GNOME"Mar 23 01:17
prurigrolol, crazier things have certainly not happened than that ;)Mar 23 01:17
DaemonFCdo whatever you want with them, I hereby release them into the public domain or if that's not allowed in some legal system somewhere then the terms of the MIT X11 licenseMar 23 01:18
DaemonFCI don't know why I'm allowed to claim copyright on something like that, but the law says I canMar 23 01:19
formic_daemonfc has a lot of tall storiesMar 23 01:19
prurigroDaemonFC, and on any pictures you snap of an unexpecting public mwahahaMar 23 01:19
prurigrotime to steal some soulsMar 23 01:20
DaemonFCprurigro: Ubuntu is claiming that they can release their AppArmor profiles under the GPLMar 23 01:20
DaemonFCwhich I think is ridiculousMar 23 01:20
DaemonFCthere's only so many ways you can possibly write one of those thingsMar 23 01:20
DaemonFCtrying to say it's copyrighted is just total bullshitMar 23 01:20
prurigrowell every work you produce is copywrittenMar 23 01:21
prurigroautomaticallyMar 23 01:21
DaemonFCwhich is bizarre in some casesMar 23 01:21
DaemonFClike thisMar 23 01:21
prurigroindeedMar 23 01:21
prurigroand then you have facebookMar 23 01:21
DaemonFCwell, you retain copyrights on anything you write on Twitter or FacebookMar 23 01:22
DaemonFCand on identica too, but the free accounts make you license them as Creative Commons Attribution Share AlikeMar 23 01:22
prurigroyea, I suppose there can still only be one 'owner'Mar 23 01:22
DaemonFCif you pay them you get to license whatever you post there however you wantMar 23 01:22
prurigroI like that setupMar 23 01:23
formic_or you can host your ownMar 23 01:23
prurigrowhich you're also paying for, in one direction or anotherMar 23 01:23
DaemonFCI use Creative Commons Non-Commercial Share Alike Unported whenever I feel it's necessary to put a license on somethingMar 23 01:23
DaemonFCI'm not going to troll people, but it gives me legal options if I feel someone has grossly violated or exploited my copyrightMar 23 01:24
prurigrolike they're selling your configs in spam mails for 10 bucks a pop?Mar 23 01:24
DaemonFCprurigro: I've used it to send take downs to BloggerMar 23 01:24
DaemonFCto get Google to take reposts of my stuff off of splogsMar 23 01:25
prurigroword, and they follow through?Mar 23 01:25
DaemonFCwhen something is copypasted onto a splog it's for commercial gain and they're not going to take the time to obey the other requirements of my licenseMar 23 01:25
DaemonFCand so Google yanks itMar 23 01:25
DaemonFCand usually bans that account for being a spammerMar 23 01:26
prurigrowhat can you legally incite a takedown for a creative commons work over?Mar 23 01:26
DaemonFCyeahMar 23 01:26
prurigroword, what about ads?Mar 23 01:26
DaemonFCif they're not obeying the terms of your copyright, you can use the DMCAMar 23 01:26
prurigroas a source of revenueMar 23 01:26
DaemonFCI take it to mean selling the work directlyMar 23 01:27
prurigroahh, fair enoughMar 23 01:27
DaemonFCI'm not going to pitch a fit over someone having a site with a few reasonable ads here and there that would show up anywhere else on their siteMar 23 01:27
DaemonFCas long as they're not a spammer or peddling malware or gaming google or somethingMar 23 01:27
prurigroword, sounds reasonableMar 23 01:27
formic_verbMar 23 01:28
prurigropronounMar 23 01:28
DaemonFCI don't think advertising is a particularly reliable business model unless you're targeting Internet Explorer with black market Russian Viagra ads  or somethingMar 23 01:28
DaemonFCevery real web browser offers some easy way to block pretty much all of themMar 23 01:29
DaemonFCif your site relies on copious amounts of advertising that is larger than the page itself and you've sufficiently pissed off your users into blocking them, that's your problemMar 23 01:29
DaemonFCnot mineMar 23 01:29
DaemonFCI think that's why Phoronix is roughly an ad per square inchMar 23 01:30
DaemonFChe has to squeeze the people that aren't smart enough to block ads, and since his target audience is tech enthusiasts that causes a problemMar 23 01:31
DaemonFCI think trying to argue that blocking ads is theft is ridiculous and goes against everything the US courts have said in similar casesMar 23 01:32
DaemonFCit's really the same thing as the anti-VCR court cases back in the 80s, just applied to modern technologyMar 23 01:32
DaemonFC"OK, I'll keep hitting the fast forward button and YOU can feel however you want about that" :DMar 23 01:33
DaemonFCI have my browser set to work the best it possibly can for meMar 23 01:35
prurigrohaha, you don't sayMar 23 01:35
DaemonFCnot malicious advertisers and content whoresMar 23 01:35
prurigrocuz yea, when I see that site its clean and adfreeMar 23 01:35
prurigroword though, both facebook and google's primary source of income is advertisingMar 23 01:35
DaemonFCGoogle makes money in lots of waysMar 23 01:36
DaemonFCadvertising is only part of thatMar 23 01:36
prurigrothis is trueMar 23 01:36
prurigrothough apparently the reason they're scrambling to become evil is because facebook is taking their advertising revenuesMar 23 01:37
DaemonFCputting text ads in Google results is fineMar 23 01:37
DaemonFCputting Google ads on third party sites and using them as spyware?Mar 23 01:37
prurigrotargeted text adsMar 23 01:37
DaemonFCnot fineMar 23 01:37
prurigrobased on the profile they've generated for you across the logins and ips they've managed to associate with youMar 23 01:38
DaemonFCI like DuckDuckGo's ads a lot better than Google'sMar 23 01:38
DaemonFCI actually unblocked DuckDuckGo's because sometimes I do want to see thoseMar 23 01:38
prurigrono kiddingMar 23 01:38
prurigrothey're that good eh?Mar 23 01:38
DaemonFCso there's a way to advertise and add value to your site for the user with themMar 23 01:38
DaemonFCinstead of skyscraper buzzing mosquito and spank the moneyMar 23 01:39
DaemonFCyeah, they'll do things like comparison shop for you and what those links do is get DuckDuckGo like 1-2% of the sale from the referralMar 23 01:39
DaemonFCand I'm fine with thatMar 23 01:40
DaemonFCGoogle's ad policy is just terribleMar 23 01:40
DaemonFChalf the time it's malware or phishingMar 23 01:40
DaemonFCand Bing isn't any betterMar 23 01:40
DaemonFCI don't want to see that shit, it removes value from that site for me and wastes my time trying to navigate around itMar 23 01:41
prurigrodoesn't bing use google's search results?Mar 23 01:41
prurigromaybe they use their ads too :)Mar 23 01:41
DaemonFCDuckDuckGo's results have changed and they removed the Bing logo in their resultsMar 23 01:41
DaemonFCso I'm not sure what they're even using nowMar 23 01:42
prurigroI thought ddg used bing + google + yahoo and some others before?Mar 23 01:43
DaemonFCthe results are kind of secondaryMar 23 01:43
DaemonFCtheir focus is the infoboxes and suchMar 23 01:43
DaemonFCso hopefully you just see what you want right away Mar 23 01:43
prurigroword, trueMar 23 01:44
DaemonFChttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=libreofficeMar 23 01:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: libreoffice at DuckDuckGo .::. Size~: 10.39 KBMar 23 01:44
DaemonFCso we see here that they have that box at the topMar 23 01:45
DaemonFCwith a wikipedia article and the official siteMar 23 01:45
DaemonFCand a brief description of what LibreOffice isMar 23 01:45
DaemonFCand then some related linksMar 23 01:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I got him to add The Errac weblog over 24 hours ago. Much more recently my Identica and the !Mageia group :). http://mageiapeople.orgMar 23 01:47
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prurigroword, yea, I really like that setup actuallyMar 23 01:47
prurigrothey've also tweaked the graphics since I last used itMar 23 01:47
prurigro(roy got me on start page a little while ago)Mar 23 01:47
DaemonFCwell, I use image search a lotMar 23 01:48
DaemonFCand I just use !gi to have duckduckgo forward me to Google ImagesMar 23 01:48
DaemonFCstartpage image search is bingMar 23 01:48
DaemonFCand I don't like Bing's image searchMar 23 01:48
DaemonFCbut for a while they let you play videos in the Bing results pageMar 23 01:48
DaemonFCso people were using that to evade porn filtersMar 23 01:49
DaemonFCwhich I thought was kind of amusingMar 23 01:49
prurigrohaha you don't sayMar 23 01:49
DaemonFCbut they "fixed: thatMar 23 01:49
prurigrohow were they getting though these filters I wonder?Mar 23 01:49
prurigroand by they I mean microsoftMar 23 01:49
DaemonFCyeah, now porn only appears in video searches on adult.bing.comMar 23 01:49
DaemonFCBing effectively proxied the videosMar 23 01:49
DaemonFCso you could play them right from the results pageMar 23 01:49
prurigrooh, unless you mean parental locksMar 23 01:50
DaemonFCand censorship software wasn't blocking BingMar 23 01:50
prurigroand not paywallsMar 23 01:50
DaemonFCyeahMar 23 01:50
prurigrowordMar 23 01:50
DaemonFCthen someone noticed their kids were using Bing a lot and investigated I guessMar 23 01:50
prurigrololMar 23 01:50
prurigroI'm sure those filters phone homMar 23 01:50
prurigroeMar 23 01:50
prurigrotooMar 23 01:50
prurigroall the better to maintain the filters my dearMar 23 01:51
DaemonFCI don't think there's anything wrong with porn, I find peoples reactions to it amusing sometimesMar 23 01:51
DaemonFCZOMG, MY VIRGIN EYES!!! BLAH!!!!Mar 23 01:51
DaemonFC"I don't see one one those every time I use the bathroom or anything!"Mar 23 01:52
DaemonFCpeople are truly fucking weirdMar 23 01:52
prurigrolol, well its been shown that those raised to treat it as taboo are more likely to have secret obsessions with it later in lifeMar 23 01:53
prurigroyet christianityMar 23 01:53
DaemonFCand then you get censorship software and it starts blocking WikipediaMar 23 01:53
prurigroso yea, people are aren't theyMar 23 01:53
DaemonFCand missing hardcore pornMar 23 01:53
DaemonFCI mean, people should realize that their teenagers are not stupidMar 23 01:53
DaemonFCand if people want something, they find a way to get itMar 23 01:54
DaemonFCso I think the problem is that people want to forcibly install their own beliefs into their kidsMar 23 01:54
DaemonFCand this is just one part of that problemMar 23 01:54
DaemonFCbut I don't like authority figures much anywayMar 23 01:55
prurigroyup-- abstinence over education, works every timeMar 23 01:55
DaemonFCespecially not when they're telling me what to believe or what to buy or how to vote and not even treating me like an intelligent human beingMar 23 01:56
DaemonFCand people start off with this mindless obedience with their parentsMar 23 01:56
prurigrohaha yea, I much prefer a collaboration of equals who all lead when it makes the most sense, but where noone notices who's leading or really cares about itMar 23 01:56
DaemonFCthen when they grow up it's their boss or the government or a police officer giving you a ticket for not wearing your seat beltMar 23 01:56
DaemonFCand it's always some stupid shit and maybe you need to just nod your head and smile for some of it because you know how much worse it can get if you don'tMar 23 01:57
DaemonFCbut nobody should find being a mindless suck up comes as second natureMar 23 01:57
DaemonFCprurigro: The world would be a better place if more people treated each other like adultsMar 23 01:58
prurigrohaha yea, I'm glad I don't live in a country where they make me feel the need to lash out or feel subservientMar 23 01:59
DaemonFCand if more people minded their own fucking businessMar 23 01:59
prurigroI blame most of the US' military coming home and joining the police forceMar 23 01:59
DaemonFCwell, since the NDAA passed, there's really no differenceMar 23 01:59
DaemonFCthe military is the civilian police force nowMar 23 01:59
prurigroword, that's cuz there was so much military sitting around no?Mar 23 02:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: WikiLeaks: The Secret Life of a Super Power | BBC http://t.co/YtCLm6TKMar 23 02:00
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DaemonFCyou've already lost your freedom and your republican form of government and all your rights when soldiers in uniform with M-16s are your police forceMar 23 02:00
DaemonFCand when one person (the president) can just point to one citizen and that guy gets shot and then the courts refuse to hear about itMar 23 02:01
DaemonFCand that's been going on here for yearsMar 23 02:01
DaemonFCwhen you think about that you get a mental image of Fidel Castro or somethingMar 23 02:02
DaemonFCnot the United StatesMar 23 02:02
prurigroword, its not just a citizen anymoreMar 23 02:03
DaemonFCGeneralissimo ObamaMar 23 02:03
DaemonFCEl Presidente for lifeMar 23 02:03
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 02:03
prurigronow you have them extraditing foreigners for internet crimes despite not targetting the US or ever having lived thereMar 23 02:03
prurigroor even visitedMar 23 02:03
DaemonFCright, and that is going entirely too farMar 23 02:04
DaemonFCbut even that isn't as serious as giving the president the authority to say "kill that guy"Mar 23 02:04
formic_Fidel Castro was a favorite in CanadaMar 23 02:05
prurigrosomeone online was comparing the US to the soviet union and the gulag in the 50s, the thread of prosecuting foreigners and locking them upMar 23 02:05
prurigrofidel castro was a favourite in the US too, depends who you talk toMar 23 02:05
DaemonFCwell, the cubans do make good cigarsMar 23 02:05
DaemonFCthey end up in the USMar 23 02:05
formic_the trudeau family were big supportersMar 23 02:05
DaemonFCthey just say they're not from CubaMar 23 02:05
DaemonFCthey frequently call them "Dominican" or somethingMar 23 02:06
DaemonFCbut they end up here in spite of the "embargo"Mar 23 02:06
formic_lol dominican cigarsMar 23 02:06
formic_seinfeldMar 23 02:06
prurigrololMar 23 02:07
DaemonFCyou see Castro smoking a cigar in every photo since the 50sMar 23 02:07
DaemonFCand he's still aliveMar 23 02:08
formic_hes dyingMar 23 02:08
DaemonFCoh gee, and so young!Mar 23 02:08
prurigrohahaMar 23 02:08
DaemonFCif only he hadn't smokedMar 23 02:08
formic_hes making sure before he does die that a socialist government takes over for himMar 23 02:09
prurigroits because none of the tobacco is from the US-- a lot of which is planted around the area they tested nukes in the 40sMar 23 02:09
DaemonFCthere's more private ownership in Cuba now than at any other point in the last 50 yearsMar 23 02:09
DaemonFCso he's not doing a very good jobMar 23 02:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] 40 news organizations intervene in Manning case "secrecy worse than Guantanamo" http://t.co/jIQ5AwRS #freebradMar 23 02:10
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prurigroI'd say as far as dictators go, fidel has actually been pretty reasonable-- not that I agree with dictators or anything (not that I believe we have many functioning democracies left either mind you)Mar 23 02:11
DaemonFCthey have a good healthcare systemMar 23 02:11
DaemonFCthe United States is a dictatorship now without the healthcare system of CubaMar 23 02:11
DaemonFCmaybe we should move to Cuba and at least have decent healthcareMar 23 02:12
prurigrolol, canada might be a better option, if this aient no dichotomy :)Mar 23 02:13
prurigrothogh those nordic countries seem pretty good if you're willing to learn a languageMar 23 02:13
DaemonFCuhhhmMar 23 02:16
DaemonFCmy cat just caught that mouse I saw yesterday and brought it to meMar 23 02:16
*DaemonFC gets some gloves to dispose of itMar 23 02:16
prurigrololMar 23 02:16
prurigroa giftMar 23 02:16
DaemonFCyeah, well, good catMar 23 02:19
DaemonFCI was going to go buy some mouse traps and my cat decided to start earning his keepMar 23 02:19
DaemonFCyayMar 23 02:19
DaemonFCNvidia partners are sending new Nvidia card prototypes to Red Hat people so they can get cracking on Nouveau support before the cards go on saleMar 23 02:22
DaemonFCsweetMar 23 02:23
DaemonFCI'd have to stumble on a really good closeout deal or something to buy an Nvidia cardMar 23 02:25
DaemonFCright now I don't even have anyMar 23 02:25
DaemonFCI gave them all awayMar 23 02:25
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DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713562Mar 23 02:27
DaemonFCinching closerMar 23 02:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug 713562 – Tracker bug for SYSV to systemd conversion .::. Size~: 69.61 KBMar 23 02:27
prurigroget outMar 23 02:27
DaemonFCthey had all the sysvinit scripts that were really hurting performance ported over by Fedora 16Mar 23 02:27
DaemonFCnow they're just cleaning up the restMar 23 02:27
prurigrothat's like, not as cool as they could be, but much cooler than nvidia's beenMar 23 02:27
DaemonFCprurigro: Officially, it isn't Nvidia helping themMar 23 02:28
prurigroahhMar 23 02:28
DaemonFCUnofficially, their board partners wouldn't do this if it would make Nvidia mad at themMar 23 02:28
DaemonFCthere's already a number of cases where Nouveau is much better than the Nvidia driverMar 23 02:29
DaemonFCbut that's also true when comparing Radeon to CatalystMar 23 02:29
DaemonFC3d performance is only part of the storyMar 23 02:29
prurigroword, my 8600 has been performing way better since moving to nouveau-- the only downside has been a graphics function in torchlight (via wine) had to be disabled due to lack of supportMar 23 02:30
prurigrobtw, any idea about nvidia's version of linux?Mar 23 02:30
prurigrofor their arm platformMar 23 02:30
prurigrohttp://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegraMar 23 02:31
DaemonFCthe boot process from the kernel taking over from GRUB to KDE's desktop appearing has improved a lot vs. when Fedora used UpstartMar 23 02:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux For Tegra | NVIDIA Developer Zone .::. Size~: 34.91 KBMar 23 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A new bill would require cigarette-style WARNING labels on video games. Tell Congress that games are speech too https://eff.org/r.3VPMar 23 02:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WARNING: Exposure to Video Game Labeling Laws May Be Hazardous to Freedom of Speech | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.78 KBMar 23 02:32
DaemonFCthe difference in between fedora 16 to 17 isn't drastic as 15-16 , but it's improved noticeably Mar 23 02:32
DaemonFCprurigro: Don't knowMar 23 02:32
DaemonFCdon't care what they do reallyMar 23 02:32
DaemonFCI don't use NvidiaMar 23 02:32
DaemonFCif their attitude towards open source changes then my attitude towards them might changeMar 23 02:33
prurigrowell its just interesting, as pretty much every arm tablet on the market at the moment that isn't an ipad is running their tegra chipMar 23 02:33
DaemonFCnot trueMar 23 02:33
prurigrono?Mar 23 02:33
DaemonFCquite a few of them have PowerVRMar 23 02:33
DaemonFCmine doesMar 23 02:33
prurigrohmm, which tab is that?Mar 23 02:33
DaemonFCwhich is sad because their driver is blob-only tooMar 23 02:34
DaemonFCbut I really despise NvidiaMar 23 02:34
prurigrohahaMar 23 02:34
DaemonFCArchos G9Mar 23 02:34
prurigroI guess it feels like a ray of sunshine after microsoft's plan to lock down any tablet that runs win8Mar 23 02:34
prurigrobut yea, its not a perfect situation by a long runMar 23 02:34
DaemonFCI don't think there will be many tablets with that limitationMar 23 02:35
prurigro100% of windows8 tabletsMar 23 02:35
DaemonFCbecause the market is going to overwhelmingly reject Windows 8 on tabletsMar 23 02:35
prurigroyou think so?Mar 23 02:35
DaemonFCit's going to be the Zune of tabletsMar 23 02:35
DaemonFCyeah, day late and a dollar shortMar 23 02:35
prurigroI've been noticing a lot of hype, surprisingly from the android crowdMar 23 02:35
DaemonFCgets you nowhere once your competition has been hacking away at it for years and flooded the marketMar 23 02:35
DaemonFCthey've lost before they've even released their first tabletMar 23 02:36
prurigrobeing able to use two apps at once + ms office/outlookMar 23 02:36
DaemonFCthey're going to be competing with Plasma Active for third placeMar 23 02:36
DaemonFCthat's the realistic expectation hereMar 23 02:36
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DaemonFCthe difference is that since Plasma Active is free and open source software, they don't have to sell as many units to make the effort worthwhileMar 23 02:37
prurigrowell I suppose we'll have to wait and see, but I predict an overwhelming demand compared to the zuneMar 23 02:37
DaemonFCso I think Microsoft will give up and go away even if they manage to ship 2-3 times as many units as Plasma ActiveMar 23 02:37
DaemonFCbecause they need to sell even more than that just to break evenMar 23 02:37
prurigroand yea, but which companies are dropping it and what kinda tabs is it gonna be on?Mar 23 02:37
DaemonFCI'm not sure how many companies they can get onboard with a money loser when Android is already so successfulMar 23 02:38
DaemonFCthey may end up having to make their own Microsoft-branded tablets and shoulder the Vista 8 disaster themselvesMar 23 02:39
DaemonFCif they do get out onto some name-brand tablets then it means they're effectively giving it away or they're actually paying companies to use itMar 23 02:40
DaemonFC(basically covering their losses)Mar 23 02:40
DaemonFCthey've already been there with ZuneMar 23 02:40
DaemonFCI think it's going to be a repeatMar 23 02:40
DaemonFCthey paid Walmart to give Zune shelf spaceMar 23 02:41
DaemonFCWalmart was going to get rid of the Zune way before they didMar 23 02:41
DaemonFCuntil Microsoft paid them to keep them on the shelf a while longer before just throwing in the towelMar 23 02:41
DaemonFConce Walmart had effectively zero Zune sales and nobody was compensating them for shelf space that was going to waste, they marked all the remaining Zunes way down and got rid of themMar 23 02:42
DaemonFCso yeah, Microsoft kind of killed netbooksMar 23 02:42
DaemonFCbut they suffered a humiliating defeat with portable media playersMar 23 02:42
DaemonFCand they've already lost the tablet market and don't even realize itMar 23 02:43
DaemonFCand to be honest, their victory on the netbook was meaningless because people ended up using tablets insteadMar 23 02:43
DaemonFCso they put all that time, effort, and money into defeating something that was going to die off anywayMar 23 02:43
DaemonFCtheir management is extremely arrogant and short sightedMar 23 02:44
DaemonFCand shouldn't be running the companyMar 23 02:44
DaemonFCbut lets hope they keep Ballmer as he runs them into the ground with his brutish stupidityMar 23 02:44
prurigroall the android kids seem ready to jump ship thoughMar 23 02:44
prurigrothat's what's got me concernedMar 23 02:45
DaemonFCnot going to happenMar 23 02:45
DaemonFCI doubt those are even real peopleMar 23 02:45
DaemonFCthey're probably employees of some PR company that are trying to plant seedsMar 23 02:46
prurigrothey could very well beMar 23 02:46
DaemonFCI'm not even concerned about thisMar 23 02:46
DaemonFCit keeps coming back to Windows and OfficeMar 23 02:46
DaemonFCno matter how they try to branch out they only have two things that sellMar 23 02:47
DaemonFCand by Windows, I mean Windows on PCsMar 23 02:47
DaemonFCthey fund all the rest of their projects at a loss out of the profits they make from the two things that sellMar 23 02:47
prurigroxbox tooMar 23 02:47
DaemonFCthat dependsMar 23 02:48
DaemonFCon what kind of accounting you useMar 23 02:48
DaemonFCI think they had enough hardware failures to take a huge bite out of themMar 23 02:48
DaemonFCyeah, the games are almost pure profitMar 23 02:48
DaemonFCand yeah, the accessories are all massively overpricedMar 23 02:48
DaemonFCand that's probably the only thing that saved them from people averaging several failed consolesMar 23 02:49
prurigroyea, especially haloMar 23 02:56
prurigrowhich hilariously, they stole from appleMar 23 02:56
DaemonFCyes and noMar 23 03:04
DaemonFCthey bought a company that would have released it only on the Mac and turned Bungie into a success insteadMar 23 03:04
DaemonFCreally how many copies of a Mac exclusive game do you think they would have sold?Mar 23 03:04
DaemonFChttp://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Mar-22.htmlMar 23 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @EllnMllr: The UK has commissioned an independent Data Strategy Board to guide and accelerate future gov http://p.ost.im/p/e4mXcRMar 23 03:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: @Nimmerliefde the example illustrates which substantial (but still small, 5%) fast-growing part of the EU http://p.ost.im/p/e48yMuMar 23 03:05
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DaemonFCwell, I'm only stuck with DirecTV and AT&T for about another monthMar 23 03:09
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prurigroformic_, your keyboard ok over there?Mar 23 04:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Ge moet naar Gent meneer? Dan had ge toch beter dienen anderen trein genomen, tis miserie aan de overwe http://ur1. ...Mar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tmdpw Een nieuwe lumia per studententeam die je morgen nog kan laten inschrijven ;)Mar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rubenslabbinck Volgens mij doe je dit niet expres :D /cc @t1mdpMar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Tuinslak: the fuck; ik stuur een mail naar HVW, krijg een reply per post.. Q_oMar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tmdpw Maar Tim toch! #denonzenrammeltookMar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @PaulZH Ouch! Please let us know if we can help you outMar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jensdehaese @Tuinslak Oh! Door jullie gebouwd! Die moeten we dan zeker eens uittestenMar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers Er zijn wel genoeg professional hackers - en @miel_vds en ik hebben besloten ook mee te doen ;)Mar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @creativeskills: Creativiteit op Apps For Ghent 2! http://t.co/SG4rXKROMar 23 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @beshart: Leuk idee van @querido_nl VertragingsApp: http://t.co/qqaxciDP - @Choisissez iets voor @iRail?Mar 23 04:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tmdpw Hebt gij nog eens gepolst voor Apps For Ghent? Geen 1 hogent studententeamMar 23 04:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tmdpw @rubenslabbinck Zolang hij until niet met 2 l-en schrijft zijn dt-fouten aanvaardbaar bij progra http://ur1. ...Mar 23 04:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Great to hear of your safe arrival, @lstench Now you just have the joy of figuring out what goes where to look forward to :)Mar 23 05:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just back from an excellent #FairVote event in Kitchener; too wiped to do any work... tomorrow is another dayMar 23 05:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Larry has another #Bitstrips Thursday: http://larryrusswurm.com/2012/03/22/mostest-burger/ #pun #humourMar 23 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Though extreme, interesting thoughts ♺ @alexhundert State power, political power and self determination | http://julianichim.wordpress.com/Mar 23 05:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] Yay! Today is the first day of the #osmocom developer meeting (http://ur1.ca/8rzjx) #openbsc #osmocombbMar 23 06:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Smileys patentiert: http://ur1.ca/8s01g Anfänger: Mitel Networks gegen #Facebook http://ur1.ca/8s01j Pros patentieren Freundschaft !gnu !fsMar 23 07:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #Tivo und #Microsoft einigen sich zu #swpat http://ur1.ca/8s02m Bei #Nutzereinschränkungen waren sie sich vorher schon einig !fs !gnuMar 23 07:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @zack RT @fsf Happy birthday to #GCC -- 25 years old today -- http://ur1.ca/8rk4o !gnu !fsf !lpMar 23 07:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @leena Hm. Schreibt da doch lieber nicht hin. Das war die falsche Mailadresse. #failMar 23 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @leena Übrigens gehts! Und es ist großartig. Und OHNE Google-Account. Mein freies Smartphone. Kann es nur ampfehlen. #fyaMar 23 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Mittlerweile sind alle #Xperia Telefone auf dem #FYA Workshop befreit. #Cyanogenmod 7.1.0.2 stable funktionierte nicht. 7.2.0- ...Mar 23 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten Corporate perk or monopolist bribery? Microsoft offers gratis proprietary software to #EP staffers http://ur1.ca/8rk9uMar 23 07:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @karsten RT @greve RT @bako Document Freedom Day at the EP: Open standards in the eBook market #DFD http://tighturl.com/4pofMar 23 07:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @fsf Happy birthday to #GCC -- 25 years old today -- http://ur1.ca/8rk4o !gnu !fsf !lpMar 23 07:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @fsf Happy birthday to #GCC -- 25 years old today -- http://ur1.ca/8rk4o !gnu !fsf !lpMar 23 08:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Say hello to Canonical's new Linux desktop: Ubuntu 12.04 beta review http://ur1.ca/8s0m7 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMar 23 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi designer hints at future version http://ur1.ca/8s0ne #linuxMar 23 08:07
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DaemonFC"You can run Ubuntu on as little as 512MBs of RAM and with a 486 processor."Mar 23 08:08
DaemonFCno you can'tMar 23 08:08
DaemonFCthe kernel for 32-bit x86 is i686Mar 23 08:09
DaemonFCPentium 2 or newer Mar 23 08:09
formic_pentium pro, no?Mar 23 08:09
DaemonFCand I don't think Unity would run on thatMar 23 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 15 New Photo Wallpapers Chosen for #Ubuntu 12.04 http://ur1.ca/8rlmu some nice choices thereMar 23 08:10
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formic_something compiled for i386 and running enlightenment should workMar 23 08:10
DaemonFCformic_: well, yeah I always forget about thatMar 23 08:11
DaemonFCand it wouldn't even work on all i686Mar 23 08:11
DaemonFCI believe you also need PAE support now as of Ubuntu 12.04Mar 23 08:12
DaemonFCthey said on their mailing list they were dropping non-PAEMar 23 08:12
schestowitz512mb ram is not "little"Mar 23 08:12
DaemonFCunless the PAE kernel works on non-PAE CPUs, I'm not sure because I don't have any such systemsMar 23 08:12
DaemonFCI've never ran a PAE kernel eitherMar 23 08:13
formic_512mb is littleMar 23 08:13
DaemonFCno reason to with x86-64Mar 23 08:13
schestowitzI ran kde on 256Mar 23 08:13
DaemonFCKDE 2?Mar 23 08:13
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 08:13
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formic_you can't find sticks smaller than 1gb at the storeMar 23 08:13
schestowitztodayMar 23 08:14
formic_im running 16gb for less than $100Mar 23 08:14
DaemonFCI had some old RAM in my bit bucket :PMar 23 08:14
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formic_mine got shotMar 23 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux 1.4.0 Released http://ur1.ca/8s0r7 #enlightenment #ubuntuMar 23 08:18
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DaemonFCI still have a 486 system that worksMar 23 08:19
DaemonFCbut I haven't powered it on in yearsMar 23 08:19
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formic_I got a P4 laptop for free with a floppy drive in itMar 23 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU Parallel 20120322 ('#518696') released http://ur1.ca/8s0rj #gnuMar 23 08:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] European Parliament staffers face ethical challenge over Microsoft Home Use program http://ur1.ca/8s0qn Time to make a choice #EPMar 23 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Acer Iconia Tab A510 with Tegra 3, Android 4.0 arriving in the US and Canada for $450 http://ur1.ca/8s0sc #acer #linuxMar 23 08:22
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DaemonFCFedora is more popular on web servers than SUSEMar 23 08:25
DaemonFChehMar 23 08:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android Goes Orbital With NASA’s ISSLive http://ur1.ca/8s0tb #android #linux #nasaMar 23 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Commodore #AMIGA mini is a modern PC that comes with Linux http://ur1.ca/8s0ur #gnu #linuxMar 23 08:30
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DaemonFCleg fell asleepMar 23 08:33
DaemonFCaggghMar 23 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kdenlive Surpasses Fundraising Goals, Might Actually Work With Kubuntu? http://ur1.ca/8s0w5 #kde #kubuntu #linuxMar 23 08:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kdenlive Surpasses Fundraising Goals, Might Actually Work With Kubuntu? .::. Size~: 47.53 KBMar 23 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony Caters to Open Source Community with Android Code http://ur1.ca/8s0wo fulfills an obligationMar 23 08:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony Caters to Open Source Community with Android Code | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 88.71 KBMar 23 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice on track for cloud service next month http://ur1.ca/8s0xo #tdf #odfMar 23 08:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LibreOffice on track for cloud service next month • The Register .::. Size~: 20.05 KBMar 23 08:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Today I make my 10,000th submission to Digg, where I was once ranked 17th (2006) http://ur1.ca/8s0xyMar 23 08:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)         - Digg .::. Size~: 91.68 KBMar 23 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Organizational Adoption of Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/8s0zd new paper. #opensourceMar 23 08:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 12.04 to be without Wubi installer http://ur1.ca/8s0zz #wubi - finally an article sbout itMar 23 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @karsten European Parliament staffers face ethical challenge over Microsoft Home Use program http://ur1.ca/8s0qn Time to make a choic ...Mar 23 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu Continues With Upstart, Releases v1.5 http://ur1.ca/8s10d #ubuntuMar 23 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Corporate perk or monopolist bribery? « Karsten on Free Software .::. Size~: 57.49 KBMar 23 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Ubuntu Continues With Upstart, Releases v1.5 .::. Size~: 17.92 KBMar 23 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Plus Android Equals Easier Multitasking http://ur1.ca/8s11v #android #linuxMar 23 08:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Plus Android Equals Easier Multitasking - Social Barrel .::. Size~: 58.8 KBMar 23 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] I'll speak about Free Software business models at Maastricht Univ. Law Faculty at 16:00 today http://ur1.ca/8s129 - cu there!Mar 23 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Legacy OS 4 Mini: Light-weight Linux for older PCs http://ur1.ca/8s12i #linux #legacyosMar 23 08:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IGIR Expert Round Table: Copyright Business Models - Maastricht University .::. Size~: 15.17 KBMar 23 08:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Legacy OS 4 Mini: Light-weight Linux for older PCs - Liliputing .::. Size~: 32.59 KBMar 23 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Forget the Ultrabook — Go With the New Commodore! http://ur1.ca/8s131 #linuxMar 23 08:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Forget the Ultrabook -- Go With the New Commodore!  - Lauren Goode - Product News - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 73.22 KBMar 23 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Canadian Party Politics - An Analysis: http://wp.me/p1gQ8u-XY #cdnpoliMar 23 08:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadian Party Politics – An Analysis | Wayne Borean .::. Size~: 49.24 KBMar 23 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pirate Bay plans to build aerial server drones with $35 Linux computer http://ur1.ca/8s13o #gnu #linux #serverMar 23 09:00
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DaemonFCschestowitz: did I tell you what Jabba did? :)Mar 23 09:03
DaemonFChe killed a mouseMar 23 09:03
DaemonFCI'm so proud of himMar 23 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux creator turned down Apple job offer from cult spiritual leader http://ur1.ca/8rled good for LinusMar 23 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux creator turned down Apple job offer from Steve Jobs | The Verge .::. Size~: 81.5 KBMar 23 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fun With REMnux -- And New Malware Analysis Book http://ur1.ca/8s170Mar 23 09:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fun With REMnux -- And New Malware Analysis Book - Dark Reading .::. Size~: 71.94 KBMar 23 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log: Drivers for new Radeon GPUs http://ur1.ca/8s18r #gpu #amd #linuxMar 23 09:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Drivers for new Radeon GPUs - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 46.91 KBMar 23 09:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT ‏ @jamie_love For the blind, International Publishers Association (IPA) wants to delete: "at prices affordable in that market" >>scumMar 23 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] We need to redefine what 'copy' means - http://bit.ly/GUPFMj wonderfully lucid exposition of #copyright's central problem by #patryMar 23 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] "The Brussels Business" http://ur1.ca/8s197 looks really interesting - film about lobbying in BrusselsMar 23 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We need to redefine what 'copy' means | William Patry | Law | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 142.9 KBMar 23 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: THE BRUSSELS BUSINESS - ab 16. März im Kino .::. Size~: 5.97 KBMar 23 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA On Hold, But The Protests Continue In Serbia - http://bit.ly/GOTpwK go, plucky #serbiaMar 23 09:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA On Hold, But The Protests Continue In Serbia | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.08 KBMar 23 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ICANN Ethical Conflicts Are Worse Than They Seem - http://bit.ly/GI7Fa9 #icann rotten to the core; throw it away and start againMar 23 09:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Internet Evolution - Beau Brendler - ICANN Ethical Conflicts Are Worse Than They Seem .::. Size~: 216.08 KBMar 23 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Document Freedom Day March 28 - http://bit.ly/GK8RQ6 "You change telephone companies, and can’t access your address book any more."Mar 23 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Document Freedom Day – March 28 - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 237.3 KBMar 23 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Corporate perk or monopolist bribery? - http://bit.ly/GQqfkG European Parliament behaving badly; #microsoft up to its old tricks #euMar 23 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 23/3/2012: Commodore Linux, Iceland Moves to Free Software http://ur1.ca/8s1dm #techrightsMar 23 09:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Corporate perk or monopolist bribery? « Karsten on Free Software .::. Size~: 57.5 KBMar 23 09:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 23/3/2012: Commodore Linux, Iceland Moves to Free Software | Techrights .::. Size~: 96.37 KBMar 23 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] nice interview with Sir Colin Davis - http://bit.ly/GHRg7y still wonderfully pugnacious at 85Mar 23 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: JDCMB: When JD met Sir Colin Davis... .::. Size~: 151.89 KBMar 23 09:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447449Mar 23 09:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Vim? http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/03/21/why-vim/ #vim #linux #unixMar 23 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese Theatrical Market Booms, But Real Action May Be In Video On Demand - http://bit.ly/GIBJrC seems piracy isn't a problem there eitherMar 23 09:27
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schestowitz"Wow, thanks for the great cheat sheet. All I've known is how to move, search, type, replace, copy and insert by lines. "Mar 23 09:27
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schestowitz"Thanks, Robert.  I know Microsoft and Apple are to blame.  I just don't think Mozilla should help them out.  It will hurt free software users if web developers think they can use h264 at all.  In fact, I think Mozilla should drop Windows development entirely.  It's time to leave non free software in the past."Mar 23 09:28
schestowitz"https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445725"Mar 23 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mozilla a Victim of the MPEG-LA Cartel http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/mozilla-swpats/  #firefox #swpatsMar 23 09:28
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schestowitz"Don't panic, just quit without changes, ":q!"" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447449Mar 23 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Vim? http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/03/21/why-vim/ #vim #linux #unixMar 23 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Why Vim? | Terminally Incoherent .::. Size~: 114.87 KBMar 23 09:28
schestowitz"https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447449"Mar 23 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Vim? http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2012/03/21/why-vim/ #vim #linux #unixMar 23 09:29
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Why Vim? | Terminally Incoherent .::. Size~: 114.87 KBMar 23 09:29
schestowitz"I prefer Emacs. It is so much easier to use and has commands easier to learn. "Mar 23 09:29
schestowitz"Or choose good ol' Emacs. Perfectly usable with and without X. With the Power of Lisp."Mar 23 09:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1447455Mar 23 09:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Without x, there's vim; otherwise, why bother? Learning vim is rarely worth the learning curve, it's learned out of necessity.Mar 23 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Drug resistant #malaria takes new ground, raising fears of global spread - http://bit.ly/GLu3ly gack, not goodMar 23 09:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peK_5J6QvBQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyhb6cCP2dEMar 23 09:33
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schestowitzso funnyMar 23 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Programming the #RaspberryPi webinar with Eben, April 4 - http://bit.ly/GKazB7 hope they have plenty of bandwidth...Mar 23 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Auf .@netzpolitik http://ur1.ca/8s1g7 auf Kommentare von #Piraten zu #FreierSoftware !fs eingegangen. Jetzt verständlicher? #PP #ltwslMar 23 09:35
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DaemonFCpenis?Mar 23 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] FSFE booth confirmed at #OrgCon in London tomorrow. Thanks to the Fellows staffing it, and to ORG for giving us the last slot! !fsfeMar 23 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Scope, not scale - http://aje.me/GJKYWi thoughtful stuff from @mbauwensMar 23 09:40
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm lmao at that videoMar 23 09:42
DaemonFCI had to take a break from eating my breakfast because I about chokedMar 23 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten I'll speak about Free Software business models at Maastricht Univ. Law Faculty at 16:00 today http://ur1.ca/8s129 - cu there!Mar 23 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Boost For #Generics: Brazilian Judge Annuls Patent On Key AIDS Drug - http://bit.ly/GHZjnF #TPP wants to go in opposite directionMar 23 09:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IGIR Expert Round Table: Copyright Business Models - Maastricht University .::. Size~: 15.17 KBMar 23 09:45
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DaemonFCa whip perhaps?Mar 23 09:45
DaemonFCmmm, whipping her with a whipMar 23 09:46
DaemonFCvery interesting!Mar 23 09:46
DaemonFCheheMar 23 09:46
DaemonFC"Are you looking at porn?"Mar 23 09:47
DaemonFCI would have said something like "Why? Did you want to give me a reach around?"Mar 23 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Releasing #Smithsonian collection metadata on GitHub - http://bit.ly/GIDwx2 #cc0 too (v @edsu @candtalan)Mar 23 09:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Releasing the collection on GitHub | cooper-hewitt labs .::. Size~: 32.12 KBMar 23 09:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1449332Mar 23 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #Commodore #AMIGA mini is a modern PC that comes with Linux  http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/new-commodore-amiga-mini-is-a-modern-pc-that-runs-linux/ #gnu #linuxMar 23 09:49
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schestowitz"Almost 400 bucks for the barebone? I like the huge SSDs though. "Mar 23 09:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: it's a good videoMar 23 09:49
schestowitzI like his channel probably the most nowMar 23 09:49
schestowitzalthough there are other good ones that are less activeMar 23 09:49
schestowitzpotholer, thunderf00t, raywilliamjohnsonMar 23 09:50
DaemonFCcould you throw him in the brig?Mar 23 09:50
DaemonFCwould you take his ipad and smash it?Mar 23 09:50
DaemonFClolMar 23 09:50
schestowitz[09:47] <DaemonFC> I would have said something like "Why? Did you want to give me a reach around?"Mar 23 09:50
schestowitzRATFLMAOMar 23 09:50
schestowitz*oMar 23 09:50
schestowitzHeheMar 23 09:51
schestowitzI like what the flight attendant didMar 23 09:51
schestowitznothingMar 23 09:51
schestowitzwhat's thr threatMar 23 09:51
schestowitzzero, not at allMar 23 09:51
schestowitzalso, I'm not sure it was pr0nMar 23 09:51
schestowitzbased on what she saysMar 23 09:51
schestowitzbut it's impossible to tellMar 23 09:51
schestowitzand it was imagery, not videoMar 23 09:51
schestowitzmaybe it was eroticMar 23 09:51
schestowitzsome girls aged around 18Mar 23 09:52
schestowitzin seductive posesMar 23 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Judge Orders FDA to Examine Safety of Agricultural Antibiotic Drugs - http://bit.ly/GKbIIZ potentially big; about timeMar 23 09:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking News: Judge Orders FDA to Examine Safety of Ag Drugs | Wired Science | Wired.com .::. Size~: 67.6 KBMar 23 09:52
schestowitzand she chose to label that whatever fit her agenda in the video she madeMar 23 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Building Ecology of Libraries – Interview with Brewster Kahle - http://bit.ly/GQwlBB "really valuable thing about libraries are librarians"Mar 23 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Building the Ecology of Libraries – An Interview with Brewster Kahle | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 89.6 KBMar 23 09:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1449440Mar 23 09:54
TechrightsBot-tr@deadsuperhero@joindiaspora.com: #TheAmazingAtheist #Snark ![1](http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1b3v68Ism1r9xqr6o1_500.gif) ![2](http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1b3v68Ism1r9xqr6o2_500.gif)Mar 23 09:54
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schestowitzThat's from a newer videoMar 23 09:54
schestowitzwhere he made this hilarious lineMar 23 09:54
schestowitzlet me find itMar 23 09:54
DaemonFCporn harms?Mar 23 09:54
DaemonFCcitation neededMar 23 09:54
schestowitznot sureMar 23 09:54
schestowitzit might do the oppositeMar 23 09:54
schestowitzsome sayMar 23 09:54
schestowitzsame with sex before marriageMar 23 09:54
schestowitzsome cass of rape was said to be due to sexual suppressionMar 23 09:55
schestowitzbut it's not a statistics-based studyMar 23 09:55
schestowitzthe correlation some get wrong goes like thisMar 23 09:55
schestowitzthere's a pr0n demand, so that breeds traffickingMar 23 09:55
DaemonFC"You're exploiting women"Mar 23 09:55
schestowitzcontrariwise, you could say that pr0n reduces demand for traffickingMar 23 09:56
schestowitze.g. is people get off on pr0n and do not require prostitutes and suchMar 23 09:56
DaemonFCOK, and you're infantilizing women by assuming that they're all victimsMar 23 09:56
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 09:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: yeah, she tried that line on himMar 23 09:56
schestowitzyou watch pr0n -> you abuse womenMar 23 09:56
DaemonFCtheir dignity was for sale and apparently the price was rightMar 23 09:56
MinceRgeekingsMar 23 09:56
schestowitzMinceR: check this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peK_5J6QvBQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyhb6cCP2dEMar 23 09:57
schestowitzTJMar 23 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PORN ON A PLANE       - YouTube .::. Size~: 154.86 KBMar 23 09:57
DaemonFCyou never hear it the other way aroundMar 23 09:57
schestowitzcan'tMar 23 09:57
DaemonFCif a woman enjoys watching pornMar 23 09:57
schestowitzcause then they label you sick pr0n loverMar 23 09:57
DaemonFCyou never hear that they're victimizing the male porn actorsMar 23 09:57
schestowitzrightMar 23 09:57
DaemonFCwhy is that?Mar 23 09:57
schestowitzit's the uinequalityMar 23 09:57
schestowitzslut vs studMar 23 09:57
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schestowitzif Dawn was a dude, you'd say Dawn is a studMar 23 09:58
DaemonFCI just think it's funnyMar 23 09:58
schestowitzI just think it's tellingMar 23 09:58
DaemonFCI don't actually care what she does over thereMar 23 09:58
schestowitzI read and heard some talks on the subjectMar 23 09:58
schestowitzlike how drugs are classifiedMar 23 09:58
schestowitzit's all PR./perceptionMar 23 09:58
schestowitzcoke vs wineMar 23 09:59
DaemonFCit's her body, not mineMar 23 09:59
MinceRwhite people's drugs vs brown people's drugsMar 23 09:59
schestowitzwine drinkers are not called drunkiesMar 23 09:59
schestowitzthey're called poshMar 23 09:59
DaemonFCfucking around indiscriminately is unhealthy, but why single out women?Mar 23 09:59
DaemonFCthat's just as nasty if you're a manMar 23 09:59
schestowitzit's not so unhealthyMar 23 09:59
schestowitzif you consider reproductionMar 23 09:59
schestowitzyou mutiplyMar 23 09:59
DaemonFCdiseases I meanMar 23 09:59
MinceRbecause according to "Christian Values/Morality", women are inferior creaturesMar 23 09:59
MinceRso they're fair gameMar 23 10:00
schestowitzso even if you die from STD, as an organism you reach the goalsMar 23 10:00
DaemonFCincluding AIDS, gonorrhea, children...Mar 23 10:00
schestowitzMinceR: they're not a creatureMar 23 10:00
schestowitzthey're a fallen ribMar 23 10:00
schestowitzof dirtMar 23 10:00
schestowitzthe bible says soMar 23 10:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: seems likely I too will have children in the coming yearsMar 23 10:01
schestowitzsorry, i quit the reason clubMar 23 10:01
DaemonFCso I waited like 5 minutes and then started reading him the riot act again....Mar 23 10:01
DaemonFCSIR.....SIR!!!!Mar 23 10:01
DaemonFC:PMar 23 10:01
DaemonFCsomeone kill this bitchMar 23 10:01
schestowitzheheMar 23 10:01
schestowitzI stopped watching 5 mins befroe the endMar 23 10:01
schestowitzcouldn't stand her faceMar 23 10:01
schestowitzshe almost criesMar 23 10:01
schestowitzand then the other lady gets upMar 23 10:01
schestowitzand say nobody geives a *Mar 23 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Pan się rzuca, a Lepperowi wystarczyło DNA" - !q Jarosław Kaczyński bit.ly/GJ1nr5Mar 23 10:02
schestowitzand TJ says, she thought just because they "both have a pussy" that the other lady would stand up for  herMar 23 10:02
DaemonFCif I was sitting behind her on the plane I would have started kicking her seat and telling her to fucking shut upMar 23 10:02
schestowitzhe was in front of herMar 23 10:02
DaemonFCand then someone would end up getting thrown off the plane before it was all over, probably meMar 23 10:02
schestowitzand it wasn't motion filmMar 23 10:02
DaemonFCI knowMar 23 10:02
schestowitzFrom what I gather it's like thisMar 23 10:02
schestowitzhe sits there with his ipadMar 23 10:03
schestowitzentertainedMar 23 10:03
DaemonFCshe was probably bothering the other passengers more than he wasMar 23 10:03
schestowitzand szhe's all boredMar 23 10:03
DaemonFCthat's why I said if I was sitting behind herMar 23 10:03
schestowitzso she looks to get into other peopel'e sbusinessMar 23 10:03
schestowitzhe was flipping through some erotic images of oriental girlsMar 23 10:03
schestowitzand she starts shoutign PORN PRONMar 23 10:03
schestowitzand then tries to label him a pedophileMar 23 10:03
DaemonFCZOMG PORN!!!Mar 23 10:03
schestowitzcause nobody gave a damnMar 23 10:03
DaemonFCPEDOPHILE PEDOPHILE!!!!Mar 23 10:03
DaemonFCTHOSE ASIAN WOMEN!!!Mar 23 10:03
schestowitzyeahMar 23 10:03
DaemonFCCAN'T TELL HOW OLD THEY ARE!!!!!Mar 23 10:04
DaemonFCTHEY ALL LOOK THE SAME!!!!1112Mar 23 10:04
schestowitzlolMar 23 10:04
schestowitzmaybe she was jealousMar 23 10:04
schestowitzit's a good rebuttal videoMar 23 10:04
schestowitzhe has many more on similar subjectsMar 23 10:04
schestowitzon the anti-pr0n cartelMar 23 10:04
schestowitzmilitant feministsMar 23 10:05
schestowitzThere was another outube channel dedicated just to thatMar 23 10:05
schestowitzthey are a sympathy trollMar 23 10:05
schestowitzAttacking men sometimes because they can't get any (men)Mar 23 10:05
schestowitzThat's not the demonism I stand up forMar 23 10:05
DaemonFCmale-hating feminaziMar 23 10:05
schestowitzI stand up for women's voting rights and suchMar 23 10:05
schestowitznot alimony where the woman can instead workMar 23 10:06
schestowitzor anti-pr0n looniesMar 23 10:06
DaemonFCFlorida still had lifetime alimonyMar 23 10:06
schestowitzif people don't have pr0n, it gets illegalMar 23 10:06
schestowitzand thus more dangerousMar 23 10:06
schestowitzimagine making all music copyrightedMar 23 10:06
schestowitzalso, people 'play' porn in their headsMar 23 10:07
schestowitzcan we make that illegal too?Mar 23 10:07
schestowitzGuess what? People have this thing called imaginationMar 23 10:07
schestowitzpr0n did not used to exist because multimedia did not exist. But even back then art was used to capture similar stuff.Mar 23 10:07
schestowitzPr0n is not a new concept.Mar 23 10:07
schestowitzgay people aren't, eitherMar 23 10:08
schestowitzlook at ancient greeceMar 23 10:08
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schestowitzbut there's this Republican/conservative group denying the past and trying to impose church-like culture on all againMar 23 10:08
schestowitzSadly, in the US they have a big shareMar 23 10:08
schestowitznot so in the UK, thankfullyMar 23 10:08
DaemonFCnot reallyMar 23 10:08
DaemonFCthey get up there and preach about itMar 23 10:09
DaemonFCthen they get caught doing meth with a gay prostitute or somethingMar 23 10:09
DaemonFCand then it's OK because god forgives themMar 23 10:09
DaemonFCand damns all the other gaysMar 23 10:09
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 10:09
DaemonFC"I HAD A MOMENT OF WEAKNESS BUT JESUS FORGIVES ME!!!!"Mar 23 10:10
oiaohmDaemonFC: really the interesting question is what does god do to people who make people gay.Mar 23 10:10
DaemonFC"CAN I GET A HALLELUJAH!!!!!?"Mar 23 10:10
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/q7cic/santorum_says_he_doesnt_believe_in_separation_of/Mar 23 10:10
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Remember some toxins used on plants and the like are known to mess with sexual preference.Mar 23 10:10
DaemonFCwho make people gay?Mar 23 10:10
DaemonFCI can't make people gayMar 23 10:10
DaemonFCI can't make people gay any more than those Christians can make a gay person straightMar 23 10:11
DaemonFCit doesn't stop them from telling both liesMar 23 10:11
oiaohmDaemonFC: Its how some pestisides work.Mar 23 10:11
DaemonFCoh bullshitMar 23 10:11
DaemonFCthere's how you can wipe out GMOsMar 23 10:12
DaemonFCtell people they turn you gayMar 23 10:12
DaemonFCMonsanto collapses overnightMar 23 10:12
DaemonFC"Maybe not all at once, you have to eat just the right amount of their rice and corn!"Mar 23 10:12
DaemonFC"And soybeans!"Mar 23 10:12
DaemonFC"Soy is teh GAY!!!!!"Mar 23 10:13
DaemonFC"But chiropractors can heal you"Mar 23 10:13
DaemonFC"Chiropractors and Jesus can heal anything!"Mar 23 10:13
DaemonFCwhere does the stupidity end?Mar 23 10:14
DaemonFCdoes it ever bottom out?Mar 23 10:14
DaemonFCapparently notMar 23 10:14
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DaemonFCpeople are superstitious Mar 23 10:15
schestowitz[10:10] <DaemonFC> "CAN I GET A HALLELUJAH!!!!!?"Mar 23 10:15
schestowitzYou sound like Peter PropoffMar 23 10:15
schestowitzPopoff?Mar 23 10:15
DaemonFCa few hundred years ago they figured tuberculosis was caused by evil spiritsMar 23 10:15
DaemonFCand undead relatives that had died of it coming to you at night to make you sickMar 23 10:15
DaemonFCso they starting digging up corpses and cutting their hearts outMar 23 10:15
schestowitz[10:10] <DaemonFC> I can't make people gayMar 23 10:16
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schestowitzWhat xians frar is that more will come out of the closetMar 23 10:16
schestowitz*fearMar 23 10:16
schestowitzif there's no longer shame associated with itMar 23 10:16
schestowitz[10:13] <DaemonFC> "But chiropractors can heal you"Mar 23 10:16
schestowitzThey canMar 23 10:16
schestowitzbut only mentallyMar 23 10:16
schestowitzthey can make you think of yourself as being better, placebo that isMar 23 10:16
DaemonFCif anyone should be ashamed, they should be ashamed for promoting stupidity and medieval hocus pocus Mar 23 10:17
DaemonFCthen they should kill themselvesMar 23 10:17
schestowitzsome of them also practice physiotherapy, but that's not really chiro, it's a hybrid of quack and sports scienceMar 23 10:17
oiaohm_DaemonFC: http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=2761  << pest control you use a lot of wierd and evil methods.Mar 23 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sainsbury's scientists turn moths gay to save crops - PinkPaper.com .::. Size~: 57.5 KBMar 23 10:17
schestowitzLOLMar 23 10:18
schestowitzmust be satireMar 23 10:18
schestowitzapril 15thMar 23 10:19
schestowitznot 1st?Mar 23 10:19
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schestowitzoiaohm_: your anagram is hereMar 23 10:20
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oiaohmRight having a few connection issues.Mar 23 10:21
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oiaohm_DaemonFC: http://www.krisweb.com/stream/pesticide_fisheffects.htm  Read Endocrine Disruptors  Yes pesticies can have nasty effects on development so can have nasty effects on sexual prefence development.Mar 23 10:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Pesticides Effects on Salmon, Steelhead and Trout .::. Size~: 10.93 KBMar 23 10:25
oiaohm_So no strict anti-gay group should take money from lots of companies that make or use pesticides.Mar 23 10:26
oiaohm_Due to lack of testing if these chemicals effect our development.Mar 23 10:26
DaemonFCI want to know what they're spraying these stupid fucking Christian fundamentalists with that turns them into shitheadsMar 23 10:27
DaemonFCthat's what I'm curious aboutMar 23 10:27
DaemonFCcan you tell me all about that?Mar 23 10:27
MinceRcould be human natureMar 23 10:28
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mhoaioDaemonFC: Lot come from farming areas that would be spraying  neurotoxins to control particular pests that are suspects to have long term effects on human brain processes as well.Mar 23 10:31
mhoaioDaemonFC: so it might be the Pesticides causing that as well.Mar 23 10:31
DaemonFCit can't be something they're spraying to kill off pestsMar 23 10:32
DaemonFClook at all the Christian fundamentalists that are alive and wellMar 23 10:32
DaemonFCif they were spraying something that killed pests, there wouldn't be any of them leftMar 23 10:32
mhoaioDaemonFC: its how it kills the pestsMar 23 10:33
mhoaioDaemonFC: lot of the  neurotoxins don't kill the pestMar 23 10:33
mhoaioDaemonFC: but stuff up its logic.Mar 23 10:33
mhoaioDaemonFC: ie if it cannot find it food it will die basically.Mar 23 10:33
mhoaioNot being logical help to be a Christian Fundamentalists as well.Mar 23 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] /libreofficeMar 23 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !LibreOffice 3.4.6 Released ⤳ OStatic blogs by Susan Linton http://ping.fm/ZMmqkMar 23 10:35
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mhoaioDaemonFC: so pesticides cannot be be rules out as a possible factor.Mar 23 10:35
mhoaioDaemonFC: most likely not the only factor.Mar 23 10:35
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Most people presume a   neurotoxins has to kill.Mar 23 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Francis Maude reforms by saying “no” – a “massive” number of times - http://bit.ly/GRtPIX kudos to him for doing so (v @ntouk) #ukMar 23 10:37
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oiaohmDaemonFC: not that  neurotoxins can just block of particular options to think.Mar 23 10:37
MinceRhow can they target those functions so precisely?Mar 23 10:38
oiaohmMinceR: because you brain is made up of many different cell types.Mar 23 10:39
oiaohmMinceR:  so if you target a cell type that controls motor function you disrupt motor function.Mar 23 10:39
MinceRicMar 23 10:39
oiaohmMinceR: if you target a cell type that effects logic.Mar 23 10:39
MinceR...you get a religious zealot? :>Mar 23 10:40
oiaohmMaybe. Mar 23 10:40
oiaohmHere is the real evil part.Mar 23 10:40
oiaohminsects and humans have lot of the same cell types in brain.Mar 23 10:41
oiaohmjust we have more of them.Mar 23 10:41
oiaohmSo there is good odds that a neurotoxin that is good against an insect is doing something to us.Mar 23 10:42
MinceRicMar 23 10:42
oiaohmMinceR: its just the fact that we are very distant releations to most things on earth.Mar 23 10:45
oiaohmSo trying to kill them can kill us just as simply.Mar 23 10:45
MinceRsometimes we do know important differences thoughMar 23 10:49
MinceRlike us being able to quickly destroy a toxin while insects can't do the sameMar 23 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] China bloggers skirt censors with noodles, Teletubbies - Vancouver Sun (blog) http://ping.fm/VUuGfMar 23 10:52
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DaemonFCwell, Farmer as a surname apparently actually meant tax collector at one point in timeMar 23 10:52
DaemonFCand I think we should tax religion twice as much as other businessesMar 23 10:53
DaemonFCsince we're talking about taxes nowMar 23 10:53
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] CodePlex, Yes CodePlex, Adds Git Support - ReadWriteWeb http://ping.fm/clNxGMar 23 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Pani Fotyga nie lubi być traktowana jak każdy inny obywatel bit.ly/GINs7LMar 23 10:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CodePlex, Yes CodePlex, Adds Git Support .::. Size~: 39.64 KBMar 23 10:55
*DaemonFC is listening to The Sodom and Gomorrah Show by Pet Shop Boys on Fundamental [Amarok]Mar 23 10:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] You don't say⸮ » Secret #ACTA treaty 'needs investigation' - Ninemsn http://ping.fm/rBrnVMar 23 10:57
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oiaohmMinceR you missed accumulative effect.  Yes we might be able to destroy the toxin but ifs it already killed a few cells repeat that many times over its going to have a effect.Mar 23 10:57
oiaohmMinceR: insects shorter life span accumulative effect no such a issue.Mar 23 10:57
MinceRcells are made and replaced all the time anywayMar 23 10:58
DaemonFChttp://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6848/snapshot8s.pngMar 23 11:00
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DaemonFC:)Mar 23 11:00
DaemonFCCraig Ferguson had them on his show back in 2006 playing thatMar 23 11:00
DaemonFCKFaenza is unmaintained and missing some icons for KDE 4.8Mar 23 11:02
DaemonFChttp://gawker.com/5637234/Mar 23 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GCreep: Google Engineer Stalked Teens, Spied on Chats (Updated) .::. Size~: 110.49 KBMar 23 11:04
DaemonFCRemember to sync with Google PervMar 23 11:04
DaemonFChttp://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2010/09/0914_google_barksdale2_big.jpgMar 23 11:05
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMar 23 11:05
DaemonFCwhen your kids use Google, someone like this might be trying to have sex with themMar 23 11:05
DaemonFCthat's more than creepy that Google gives full remote access to their systems to some people who they don't even bother to monitor or conduct spot checks onMar 23 11:08
oiaohmMinceR: not all brian cells replicate in what you call fast cycles.Mar 23 11:10
*DaemonFC sets MinceR's search to Barksdale, errr, GoogleMar 23 11:10
oiaohmMinceR: particular cells in brain are the slowest replaced in the human body ie never.Mar 23 11:11
oiaohmMinceR: for a while I did study natural pest control for citrus.  It gets down right scary since you have to study what pestisides will do to insects that are the good ones you want.Mar 23 11:14
oiaohmMinceR: in the process you have to read all the possible toxic effects to humans.Mar 23 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Planning Application Alerts: first fruits - http://bit.ly/GHeSbu another great #opendata project from @CountCultureMar 23 11:15
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oiaohmMinceR: This is why I kinda know this topic so well.  Its eye opening.Mar 23 11:15
oiaohmWhat is allowed to be sprayed.Mar 23 11:16
schestowitzlolMar 23 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA treaty mauled in #au hearings - http://bit.ly/GRCNWC great work by @drrimmer & @kim_weatherall - kudos (v @technollama)Mar 23 11:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA treaty mauled in hearings - Software - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au .::. Size~: 101.07 KBMar 23 11:18
schestowitzpoosely used wordMar 23 11:18
schestowitz"sprayed"Mar 23 11:18
schestowitzloosely usedMar 23 11:19
schestowitz[11:15] <oiaohm> MinceR: This is why I kinda know this topic so well.  Its eye opening.Mar 23 11:19
schestowitzI'm sure it isMar 23 11:19
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92117878Mar 23 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 23-Mar-12 11:09:05 UTC - Identi.ca: #Linus' no fan of MaCid OS — Steve Jobs offered !Linux creator "a place at #Apple working on its #Unix -based kernel" http://ur1.ca/8rledMar 23 11:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1449418Mar 23 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pirate Bay plans to build aerial server drones with $35 Linux computer http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/pirate-bay-plans-to-build-aerial-server-drones-with-35-linux-computer.ars?clicked=related_right #gnu #linux #serverMar 23 11:20
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schestowitz"Wont this prompt law-makers to cover yet another loop hole?"Mar 23 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why is #Firefox - and #OpenSource - a Disaster in #China? - http://bit.ly/GK0h1o what's the problem?Mar 23 11:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why is Firefox - and Open Source - a Disaster in China? - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 85.76 KBMar 23 11:28
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92118633Mar 23 11:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Kete Foy (kete)'s status on Friday, 23-Mar-12 11:37:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz @michelenlared Wow, try out #Unity in your browser! http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ It looks like an improved #GNOME ShellMar 23 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @wkpl Od dziś na łamach naszego serwisu możliwie regularnie będziemy gościć Tyflopodcast! Zapraszamy do słuchania. (: http://bit.ly/G ...Mar 23 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ŠwZ–@l ‹‰hŠw‰€ —鎭‘Û‘åŠw .::. Size~: 91 KBMar 23 11:45
schestowitzhttp://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-must-have-thunderbird-addons-25-more/Mar 23 11:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 10 must-have Thunderbird Addons (+ 25 more) .::. Size~: 107.07 KBMar 23 11:46
schestowitzI need a thunderbird delete message button extensionMar 23 11:46
schestowitzone that adds a button to a windows with a message to delete this messageMar 23 11:46
schestowitzseems like a design flaw not to have such a thingMar 23 11:47
schestowitzif I open up a message I ought to have a button somewhere for self deletionMar 23 11:47
schestowitzthere's one for mark as unreadMar 23 11:47
DaemonFCcustomize the buttonsMar 23 11:49
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9TAiUDStZcMar 23 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: South Park, How would you like to suck my balls Mr Garrison :L ?       - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.84 KBMar 23 11:53
schestowitzjust did Mar 23 11:55
schestowitzI need to test this nowMar 23 11:55
schestowitzI got it set up for very efficient handling of mailMar 23 11:55
schestowitzand resending to those who are too lazy to handle requestMar 23 11:55
schestowitz"edit as new" is very usefulMar 23 11:55
schestowitzsome business pretend not to read emailMar 23 11:56
schestowitzbut after you resend they spring into lifeMar 23 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] por eso digo que "la tradicion manda", los padres son libres, pero la presion esta ahi. Y tu te puedes desapuntar, pero ya estas apuntadoMar 23 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] certainly a factorMar 23 11:58
schestowitzthis gives me more stuff to do things I really want to doMar 23 11:59
schestowitzlike blogging, socialisingMar 23 12:00
schestowitza lot of people still fight against their OS :/Mar 23 12:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: is SP still running?Mar 23 12:00
DaemonFCyeahMar 23 12:02
schestowitzstill the same character and voices?Mar 23 12:03
DaemonFCmore or lessMar 23 12:04
schestowitzchafractersMar 23 12:04
DaemonFCMs. Choksondik diedMar 23 12:04
schestowitzis Chef still in it?Mar 23 12:04
DaemonFCso did their bus driver that shouted SIT DOWN, SHUT UP!!!Mar 23 12:05
DaemonFCno, Chef was a scientologist Mar 23 12:05
DaemonFCand is dead, in the show and real lifeMar 23 12:05
DaemonFCB-)Mar 23 12:05
DaemonFC"Yeah, whatever you fat bitch!"Mar 23 12:05
schestowitzno more salty chocolate b0llsMar 23 12:05
DaemonFCWHAT DID YOU SAY!?!?!?Mar 23 12:05
DaemonFC"I said I've got a bad itch!"Mar 23 12:06
DaemonFCOh, well you may want to get some ointment for thatMar 23 12:06
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 12:06
schestowitzhaMar 23 12:12
schestowitzI think I remember that oneMar 23 12:12
schestowitzI used to watch it a lot when i was younger, Simpsons people like us watched even as childrenMar 23 12:12
schestowitzI could draw the Simpsons very wellMar 23 12:13
schestowitzI suppose that's still going, tooMar 23 12:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1449408Mar 23 12:14
schestowitz"It supports any PC with a Pentium II 800 MHz or faster processor, 256MB of RAM"Mar 23 12:14
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Legacy OS 4 Mini: Light-weight Linux for older PCs  http://liliputing.com/2012/03/legacy-os-4-mini-light-weight-linux-for-older-pcs.html #linux #legacyosMar 23 12:14
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schestowitzEr, I have Debian GNU/Linux running on a notebook with 80 megs of memory and a Pentium (One!) processor. :)Mar 23 12:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1449332Mar 23 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #Commodore #AMIGA mini is a modern PC that comes with Linux  http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/new-commodore-amiga-mini-is-a-modern-pc-that-runs-linux/ #gnu #linuxMar 23 12:15
schestowitz"Sucks. Hard. "Mar 23 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: New Commodore AMIGA mini is a modern PC that comes with Linux | Linux User .::. Size~: 44.17 KBMar 23 12:15
schestowitzDaemonFC: i added delete button in customiseMar 23 12:15
schestowitzbut it's greyed outMar 23 12:15
schestowitzwhich is kind of lameMar 23 12:15
schestowitzuntil it's being opened from the main client windowMar 23 12:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1449413Mar 23 12:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Forget the Ultrabook — Go With the New Commodore!  http://allthingsd.com/20120321/forget-the-ultrabook-go-with-the-new-commodore/ #linuxMar 23 12:18
schestowitzIt's neither a genuine #Commodore nor a genuine #Amiga machine, it's just an overpriced PC in a small box with a ridiculously under-dimensioned power supply running Linux Mint. No brand name licence agreement will ever change that. It is really beyond me why the media even mention this sad joke. "Mar 23 12:18
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DaemonFCyeahMar 23 12:19
schestowitzhttp://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Tivo-und-Microsoft-beenden-Patentkonflikt-1478085.htmlMar 23 12:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: heise online | Tivo und Microsoft beenden Patentkonflikt .::. Size~: 65.61 KBMar 23 12:19
schestowitzRemember that cose?Mar 23 12:19
DaemonFCthe original Amiga was probably the most advanced system that home computer users would see in most ways for at least 10 more yearsMar 23 12:20
DaemonFCand with some things, for the next 15-20Mar 23 12:20
DaemonFCand if you count Microsoft going back and implementing some of those features, or Apple, you have to take into account all the bugs and frequent crashesMar 23 12:21
DaemonFCit's sad when someone comes along and basically ships Debian under the terms of some ridiculous EULAMar 23 12:23
DaemonFChttp://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=312Mar 23 12:25
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fewt+1 to the it is not a CommodoreMar 23 12:31
fewtbecause it isn'tMar 23 12:31
fewtit's a big fat jokeMar 23 12:31
schestowitzDaemonFC: what eula?Mar 23 12:32
DaemonFCXandros and Linspire had them even though they were just Debian + crapMar 23 12:32
fewtdoes a disservice to the Commodore brand (being a disservice to a dead brand is pretty bad, am I right? hah)Mar 23 12:32
DaemonFCsomeone owns the marks Mar 23 12:32
DaemonFCthat's all it isMar 23 12:33
schestowitzthe brand is dead?Mar 23 12:33
fewtIsn't it?Mar 23 12:33
schestowitzbtw, how ong for tm to xpire?Mar 23 12:33
schestowitzfewt: practically yesMar 23 12:33
DaemonFCthey don't expireMar 23 12:33
schestowitzbut lgally?Mar 23 12:33
fewtthat's what I meant, practically.Mar 23 12:33
schestowitzDaemonFC: unless not defended?Mar 23 12:34
fewtdead in terms of mindshareMar 23 12:34
DaemonFCyou can lose them if you don't enforce themMar 23 12:34
schestowitzunless one if 40Mar 23 12:34
schestowitz*isMar 23 12:34
fewtIMHO it bit it after they released the Commodore Colt PCMar 23 12:34
schestowitz!google psion netbookMar 23 12:34
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Psion netBook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion_netBookMar 23 12:34
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Psion – Discontinued Products | http://www.psion.com/products/discontinued-products.htmMar 23 12:34
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Psion – rugged mobile computers that maximize returns. | http://www.psion.com/Mar 23 12:34
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Psion Netbook - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DHZqg5clI8rUMar 23 12:34
fewtor as they released it.Mar 23 12:34
schestowitz!google dell cloud computing trademarkMar 23 12:35
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Dell unlikely to get trademark for 'cloud computing' | Politics and Law ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10011577-38.htmlMar 23 12:35
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Dell cloud computing™ denied • The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/18/dell_cloud_computing_denied/Mar 23 12:35
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Cloud Computing - Latest Status Info | http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr%3Fregser%3Dserial%26entry%3D77139082Mar 23 12:35
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Dell Cloud Computing Trademark Rejected - IT Infrastructure - News ... | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/Dell-Cloud-Computing-Trademark-Rejected/Mar 23 12:35
schestowitzHow about a Colt Commodore?Mar 23 12:35
schestowitzmachine gun with an LCD screenMar 23 12:35
msb__Both "Amiga" and "VIC" are very expensive!Mar 23 12:35
schestowitzto keep track of pointsMar 23 12:35
schestowitz(and fingers)Mar 23 12:35
fewthehMar 23 12:36
schestowitz!google troops shoot 18 peopleMar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Yemen troops shoot protesters dead | World news | guardian.co.uk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/18/yemen-troops-shoot-protesters-deadMar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Pakistani Troops Given Orders to Shoot in Karachi Turmoil ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/09/world/asia/09karachi.htmlMar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2011–2012 Syrian uprising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%25E2%2580%25932012_Syrian_uprisingMar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Special forces helicopter shot down in Afghanistan was on a mission ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023123/Special-forces-helicopter-shot-Afghanistan-mission-rescue-fellow-Navy-SEALs.htmlMar 23 12:36
schestowitzthat's a lot of fingers !!Mar 23 12:36
schestowitz!google troops collect fingers iraqMar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - US soldiers 'killed Afghan civilians for sport and collected fingers as ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/09/us-soldiers-afghan-civilians-fingersMar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 'Kill team' US platoon commander is convicted of murdering Afghan ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/11/kill-team-calvin-gibbs-convictedMar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - U.S. Soldiers Charged With Killing Afghans At Random, Collecting ... | http://hiphopwired.com/2010/09/10/u-s-soldiers-charged-with-killing-afghans-at-random-collecting-fingers-as-trophies-9999/Mar 23 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - US Soldiers 'Killed Afghan Civilians for Sport and Collected Fingers ... | http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/09/09Mar 23 12:36
schestowitzstingerrs for fingersMar 23 12:37
msb__...compared to cheap PC from local computer store that you can put Linux on.Mar 23 12:37
schestowitzcoming to Afghanistan 2013Mar 23 12:37
*DaemonFC cuts off schestowitz's fingers and throws them at fewt one by oneMar 23 12:38
schestowitzslow downMar 23 12:38
fewthey I don't want thoseMar 23 12:38
schestowitzdon't waste em allMar 23 12:38
fewtgive them backMar 23 12:38
DaemonFCthat'll teach him to prefer GNOME 2 over KDEMar 23 12:38
fewt:)Mar 23 12:38
msb__USA is Nazi Germany now.Mar 23 12:38
schestowitznaaaMar 23 12:38
DaemonFCnot even closeMar 23 12:38
DaemonFCthough closer than I'd likeMar 23 12:38
fewtnope, not even closeMar 23 12:39
msb__Invading other countries for no reason and murdering millions.Mar 23 12:39
schestowitz!ggogl pepperspray memeMar 23 12:39
schestowitz!ggogle pepperspray memeMar 23 12:39
schestowitz!google pepperspray memeMar 23 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Casually Pepper Spray Everything Cop | Know Your Meme | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/casually-pepper-spray-everything-copMar 23 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Pepper Spraying Cop Meme | http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-pepper-spraying-cop-memeMar 23 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Best Of 'Pepper Spraying Cop' Meme | Smosh | http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/memes/best-pepper-spraying-cop-memeMar 23 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Hitler Reacts to Pepper Spray Meme - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DiU7y81FBxu4Mar 23 12:39
schestowitzgahMar 23 12:39
fewtmillions?Mar 23 12:39
fewtmurdering millions?Mar 23 12:39
schestowitzyeahMar 23 12:39
DaemonFCmsb__: You have an organization full of people that volunteer to make a career out of killing peopleMar 23 12:39
schestowitzindirectlyMar 23 12:39
schestowitzdon't worryMar 23 12:39
schestowitz"brown people"Mar 23 12:39
DaemonFCand you expect that they're all going to be sane?Mar 23 12:40
fewtwowMar 23 12:40
schestowitz!google carlin "brown people"Mar 23 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bomb Brown People! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGzrQSba-1k4Mar 23 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - George Carlin on American Foreign Policy - Bombing Brown People ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DdDw-zFFhFgcMar 23 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - George Carlin - We Like War - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsDkhzHQO7jYMar 23 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Conspiracy Planet - Humor - George Carlin on Bush War | http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm%3Fchannelid%3D104%26contentid%3D554%26page%3D2Mar 23 12:40
fewtkind of harsh thereMar 23 12:40
DaemonFCmost countries have a military and I'd be surprised if any of them weren't like thatMar 23 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "Minimalgebot für Datenformate - offener Standard sein reicht nicht" http://ur1.ca/8s3qp von !fsfe Mitgründer .@reiter #dfd !fs !gnuMar 23 12:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Offene Standards .::. Size~: 18.96 KBMar 23 12:40
DaemonFCorganizations like that attract violent unintelligent peopleMar 23 12:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: they're more restrainedMar 23 12:40
schestowitztheir PR machine is weakerMar 23 12:40
msb__DaemonFC: That organization includes the top layers of the US govt, all run by the ultra-rich.Mar 23 12:40
DaemonFCwhat do you think you're going to end up with?Mar 23 12:41
schestowitzit's harder to sell it to the world as "spreading democracy"Mar 23 12:41
schestowitzcompare Iraq invasion to ChecheniaMar 23 12:41
schestowitzone done by anglo-saxons, another by the "soviets" axisMar 23 12:41
schestowitzexpansion as "defence"Mar 23 12:42
schestowitzthe Nazis too said they 'protected' GermanyMar 23 12:42
schestowitzand see what their departments stood for (acronyms with defence)Mar 23 12:43
schestowitzMinisterium für StaatssicherheitMar 23 12:43
schestowitzState securityMar 23 12:43
schestowitzin the UK we have the MoDMar 23 12:43
schestowitzMinistry of DefenceMar 23 12:44
schestowitzStaatssicherheitMar 23 12:44
DaemonFCwell, they can't call it the Ministry of Unprovoked Hostilities Mar 23 12:44
schestowitzin the US it's called intelligenceMar 23 12:44
DaemonFCthat would be admitting to what it isMar 23 12:44
schestowitzC[intelligence]AMar 23 12:44
msb__Wikipedia says Russia invaded Chechnya in response to Islamic invasion -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_WarMar 23 12:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Second Chechen War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 360.14 KBMar 23 12:44
schestowitzFB[intelligence]Mar 23 12:44
schestowitzthey're smartMar 23 12:44
schestowitzand intelligentMar 23 12:45
schestowitzdon't worryMar 23 12:45
schestowitz!google brad manning ciaMar 23 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Bradley Manning Support Network » US withholding key documents | http://www.bradleymanning.org/news/press/us-withholding-key-documentsMar 23 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Abuse of Private Manning - NYTimes.com | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/opinion/15tue3.htmlMar 23 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - CIA Torture Methods Used on Bradley Manning - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DKhiXz216U28Mar 23 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - How Bradley Manning's fate will be decided - Bradley Manning ... | http://www.salon.com/2012/01/21/how_bradley_mannings_fate_will_be_decided/Mar 23 12:45
msb__Afghanistan and Iraq never invaded US.Mar 23 12:45
schestowitzCIA=tortureMar 23 12:45
schestowitznot intelligenceMar 23 12:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Whether moving because of circumstance, or to fulfil your dreams, any way you slice it moving is hard. #change is hard, even good changeMar 23 12:45
DaemonFCmsb__: They were never in a position toMar 23 12:45
msb__DaemonFC: So?  US started both of those wars!Mar 23 12:46
schestowitzCIA=central inquisition agencyMar 23 12:46
DaemonFCthe entire Iraq army only lasted a little over a monthMar 23 12:46
DaemonFCI'm surprised they lasted that longMar 23 12:46
schestowitzFBI=inquisition barbarians IncorporatedMar 23 12:46
DaemonFCwith ancient Soviet junk to defend themselves withMar 23 12:46
schestowitzDaemonFC: maybe the army used the ammo slowlyMar 23 12:47
schestowitzto use more of it, over timeMar 23 12:47
schestowitzremember:Mar 23 12:47
schestowitzprofits and revenue measured quarterlyMar 23 12:47
DaemonFCbut really a lot of them just deserted in the chaosMar 23 12:47
formic_FBI = friggin brainless idiotsMar 23 12:47
msb__But Iraqi people kept fighting.  Smeared by US media as "insurgents", as if US-enforced puppet govt was legitimate.Mar 23 12:47
schestowitzif you use it up too fast, you don't do that revenue--shaping thingMar 23 12:47
schestowitz!google revenue--shapingMar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Increase Revenue By Demand Shaping At Point Of Sale | http://www.slideshare.net/Emcien/increase-revenue-by-demand-shaping-at-point-of-saleMar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - What are the major factors shaping the British Land Revenue Policy ... | http://www.preservearticles.com/2012031527450/what-are-the-major-factors-shaping-the-british-land-revenue-policy-in-india.htmlMar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Shaping the Future of the Newspaper / New Revenue Models for ... | http://www.wan-press.org/article18438.htmlMar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Paul Albright, Marketo: How are social strategies shaping revenue ... | http://www.mycustomer.com/video/paul-albright-marketo-how-are-social-strategies-shaping-revenue-performance-managementMar 23 12:47
schestowitz!google income shapingMar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Income shaping children's progress at school | Story & Education ... | http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/income-shaping-childrens-progress-at-school/story-e6frgcjx-1226235984477Mar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Income shaping children's progress at school | http://www.s4.brown.edu/us2010/News/inthenews.PDFs/Jan_Feb.2012/us2010.news.2012.01.04.theaustralian.pdfMar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - What are the major factors shaping the British Land Revenue Policy ... | http://www.preservearticles.com/2012031527450/what-are-the-major-factors-shaping-the-british-land-revenue-policy-in-india.htmlMar 23 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Toys and games: how demographics and income shape demand | http://www.euromonitor.com/toys-and-games-how-demographics-and-income-shape-demand/reportMar 23 12:47
schestowitznever mind, can't find itMar 23 12:48
schestowitzinsurgents can be a "freedom fighter" tooMar 23 12:48
schestowitzthey imply these came from the insideMar 23 12:48
schestowitzsimilar to terroristsMar 23 12:48
msb__Anyhow, US businessmen _financed_ 75% of  Hitler's military.  See cosmicpenguin.comMar 23 12:48
schestowitzyou get invadedMar 23 12:48
schestowitzthey kill your dadMar 23 12:48
schestowitza civilianMar 23 12:48
DaemonFChttp://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/23943Mar 23 12:49
schestowitzyou pick up a pistolMar 23 12:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wolfenstein 3D 'Mecha Hitler Badass' gameplay Video from GameVideos .::. Size~: 57.42 KBMar 23 12:49
schestowitzand they call you enemy combatantMar 23 12:49
MinceRoiaohm: i thought it was said that all cells are replaced over 7 years or somethingMar 23 12:49
schestowitzMinceR: an adult has probably none of the atoms he/she was born withMar 23 12:50
schestowitzor maybe just a few, by mere probabilityMar 23 12:50
schestowitznot sure about bone thoughMar 23 12:50
schestowitzdoes not count as tissueMar 23 12:50
oiaohmMinceR: that is a lie if that was a case people would not get diabetes and Parkinson disease due to loss of particular cells. Mar 23 12:51
schestowitzrenewal of cells?Mar 23 12:51
oiaohmMinceR: Problem is you need the particular cells so replacements to them can be made.Mar 23 12:51
schestowitzthey get too much grey matterMar 23 12:51
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0mLOCYYozwMar 23 12:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Doom 3 ending       - YouTube .::. Size~: 141.72 KBMar 23 12:52
oiaohmMinceR: some are a simple one for 1 swap. Ie one new cell forms next to the old cell then the old cell dies.Mar 23 12:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1445697 "Elop may not be a mole but he certainly doesn't have any sisu. #suomi"Mar 23 12:52
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/lumia-epicfail/  #nokia #android #windows #meegoMar 23 12:52
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.14 KBMar 23 12:52
schestowitzno idea what that meansMar 23 12:52
schestowitzoiaohm: there are 4 types of tissue cells IIRCMar 23 12:53
oiaohmMinceR: so that number of particular cells never expand over your life time after they are formed.Mar 23 12:53
schestowitzthe brain ones might not be replaced in the same wayMar 23 12:53
schestowitzsome cells merely connect muscles, I can't recall the course I watched on that, but cell is not a simple term, there's many types of themMar 23 12:53
MinceRafaik it was discovered that new brain cells are made even in adultsMar 23 12:53
schestowitzsome cells are organisms on their own, with self reproduction independentlyMar 23 12:54
oiaohmschestowitz: particular brain cells and insulin cells don't kinda regenerate.Mar 23 12:54
oiaohmMinceR: the brain cells are more than 1 type.Mar 23 12:54
MinceRi knowMar 23 12:54
oiaohmMinceR: some are replacable.Mar 23 12:54
oiaohmBut some like the regulartor cells that if you loss you get Parkinson disease you are born with so may of them.Mar 23 12:55
oiaohmThe number does not expand only decreases.Mar 23 12:55
oiaohmThere are other regulartors cells that control thought processes.Mar 23 12:56
oiaohmNot motor.Mar 23 12:56
oiaohmMinceR: its the ones that don't regentate we don't really want to be losing.Mar 23 12:58
oiaohmMinceR: its like cocco and a few other things help the body replace brain cells it can replace.Mar 23 12:59
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3clVvh5gbGEMar 23 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Quake 4 Stroggification Process       - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.06 KBMar 23 12:59
schestowitzcocco?Mar 23 13:00
schestowitzcocoa?Mar 23 13:00
msb__schestowitz: regarding this:  http://techrights.org/2012/03/22/ky-srinivasan-in-microsoft/  -- what exactly is Microsoft doing to Linux?Mar 23 13:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From Novell to Microsoft (With Love): How Microsoft Uses SUSE/Novell to Infiltrate Linux Development | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.7 KBMar 23 13:01
msb__I think the main thing was to severely fuck up KDE4, but people call me a "conspiracy theorist" for saying it.Mar 23 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You might want to look at these: http://sejalivre.org/confira-os-wallpapers-que-estarao-presentes-no-ubuntu-12-04/ :)Mar 23 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 _runs to the kitchen to start coffee_ Getting mine, too. #coffeeMar 23 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Confira os Wallpapers que estarão presentes no Ubuntu 12.04 | Blog Seja Livre .::. Size~: 77.56 KBMar 23 13:02
msb__schestowitz: But multiple desktops don't work in KDE4, and I think that is a very important feature.Mar 23 13:02
MinceRthey do work, just the switcher applet allegedly can't display desktop names :>Mar 23 13:03
msb__MinceR: Correct, so in fact, they are not usable.Mar 23 13:03
MinceRto youMar 23 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] < heading down to put the kettle on for #coffee (a very good idea)Mar 23 13:03
MinceRthat said, i've found kde4 a setback for other reasonsMar 23 13:04
msb__To anybody if they use more than a few desktops.Mar 23 13:04
msb__MinceR: Do tell...Mar 23 13:04
msb__MinceR: What other problems do you have with kde4?Mar 23 13:05
MinceRinstability, monolithicityMar 23 13:05
*schestowitz maxes up sound notifications in konversation and pidgin (might drive me mad later)Mar 23 13:05
MinceRrendering glitches in non-compositing modeMar 23 13:05
DaemonFCyeah, but why would you use that?Mar 23 13:06
MinceRbecause of bugs in compositingMar 23 13:06
DaemonFCMinceR: the rendering glitches aren't KDE's faultMar 23 13:06
MinceRwhich may or may not be driver bugsMar 23 13:06
DaemonFCthey're your video driversMar 23 13:06
DaemonFCset EXAVsync to onMar 23 13:06
MinceRDaemonFC: actually, 2d rendering glitches are kde's faultMar 23 13:06
DaemonFCno they aren'tMar 23 13:07
DaemonFCthey're your ddx's faultMar 23 13:07
DaemonFCuse exavsyncMar 23 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yay! This morning it's only 13.6 °C (a bit more than double the seasonal average)Mar 23 13:07
msb__Compositing has always been problematic.  I never use it.Mar 23 13:07
DaemonFCOption "EXAVSync" "boolean"Mar 23 13:07
DaemonFC              This option attempts to avoid tearing by stalling the engine until the display controller has passed the destination region.  It reduces tearing at the cost of performance and has been known toMar 23 13:07
schestowitzwait, what?Mar 23 13:07
DaemonFC              cause instability on some chips.  The default is off.Mar 23 13:07
schestowitzmsb__: what's problematic about it?Mar 23 13:07
schestowitzdepends on driver/card, I guessMar 23 13:08
msb__As you're saying, it puts more stress on the drivers.Mar 23 13:08
DaemonFCMinceR: The reason the glitching doesn't happen with OpenGL compositing is because the OpenGL vsync option defaults to onMar 23 13:08
schestowitzcompiz used to be not so reliable, kwin is very stable nowMar 23 13:08
msb__Has caused crashes in the past.Mar 23 13:08
DaemonFCOption "SwapbuffersWait" "boolean"Mar 23 13:08
DaemonFC              This  option  controls the behavior of glXSwapBuffers and glXCopySubBufferMESA calls by GL applications.  If enabled, the calls will avoid tearing by making sure the display scanline is outsideMar 23 13:08
DaemonFC              of the area to be copied before the copy occurs.  If disabled, no scanline synchronization is performed, meaning tearing will likely occur.  Note that when enabled, this  option  can  adverselyMar 23 13:08
DaemonFC              affect the framerate of applications that render frames at less than refresh rate.Mar 23 13:08
DaemonFC              The default value is on.Mar 23 13:08
DaemonFCgo yell at whoever decides what the defaults areMar 23 13:08
msb__And anyhow it's unnecessary.Mar 23 13:08
MinceRDaemonFC: i don't think this has anything to do with random garbage appearing in title bars.Mar 23 13:08
DaemonFCor just fix it yourself Mar 23 13:08
oiaohmBasically everything here is why wayland is required.Mar 23 13:09
schestowitzway land way COOL!Mar 23 13:09
oiaohmMinceR: I don't have kde doing random garbage on title bars using the closed source drivers.Mar 23 13:09
DaemonFCfor what it's worth, most non-composited or XRENDER composited window managers glitch horriblyMar 23 13:09
MinceRgood for youMar 23 13:09
msb__My 6 year old machine switches desktops instantaneously.Mar 23 13:09
DaemonFCunless you use exavsyncMar 23 13:09
DaemonFCincluding xfwmMar 23 13:09
schestowitzMinceR: you can do that with compiz enabled tooMar 23 13:10
MinceRxfwm doesn't glitch here, you must be doing something wrongMar 23 13:10
msb__in kde3Mar 23 13:10
DaemonFCit's painful to even look atMar 23 13:10
MinceRschestowitz: compiz is even less stable than kwinMar 23 13:10
schestowitzkde3 with Composite on was experimentalMar 23 13:10
schestowitzeven in 3.4Mar 23 13:10
DaemonFCxfwm has tearing problemsMar 23 13:10
DaemonFCyou have to enable exavsync to work around thatMar 23 13:10
msb__I have no use for transparent, wobbly, or otherwise mutant windows.Mar 23 13:11
DaemonFCdespite what the documentation says it seems to work fine on my cardMar 23 13:11
MinceRtearing or random crashes and garbage... let me think... i guess i'll just go with tearing then, thank you very much.Mar 23 13:11
DaemonFCwithout any noticeable performance lossMar 23 13:11
DaemonFCbut, you are dealing with XMar 23 13:11
DaemonFCso expect problems where yu shouldn't find themMar 23 13:11
DaemonFCno modern display server does this crapMar 23 13:12
MinceRmaybe i'll try Cairo Compositing Manager one dayMar 23 13:12
DaemonFCX11 has aged poorlyMar 23 13:12
cubezzzvesa drive on openbsd, no tearingMar 23 13:12
DaemonFCit only barely works well enough to useMar 23 13:12
Diablo-D3mehMar 23 13:12
Diablo-D3I swearMar 23 13:12
Diablo-D3Im just going to switch to gnome 3Mar 23 13:12
oiaohmMinceR: Cairo + Current day closed source Nvidia gets intesesting.Mar 23 13:12
cubezzzon a computer over 10 years old Mar 23 13:12
Diablo-D3and troll the worldMar 23 13:12
oiaohmIts like where did the memory go.Mar 23 13:12
MinceRDiablo-D3: how will we notice the difference?Mar 23 13:12
DaemonFCoh, you mean where their proprietary driver pigs out on system RAMMar 23 13:13
DaemonFCand so it makes it unusable?Mar 23 13:13
Diablo-D3Ill be angrier than normalMar 23 13:13
DaemonFCwell, that's Nvidia for youMar 23 13:13
MinceRDiablo-D3: again, how can we possibly tell?Mar 23 13:13
DaemonFCand proprietary drivers in generalMar 23 13:13
oiaohmDaemonFC: Cairo has found a bug that Nvidia has not worked out how to fix yet.Mar 23 13:13
oiaohmDaemonFC: basically it breaks there optimiser.Mar 23 13:13
DaemonFCand won'tMar 23 13:13
Diablo-D3hurrMar 23 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @documentfreedom The Pirate Party (DE) suggests every day a program excelling in the promotion of #openstandards http://www.ur1.ca/8 ...Mar 23 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Archive This http://goo.gl/jxSG4 @socialarchive #TSA #TheSocialArchiveMar 23 13:13
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MinceRthat's assuming nvidia wants to fix bugsMar 23 13:14
oiaohmMinceR: Nvidia normally does.Mar 23 13:14
MinceRjudging by what they did with optimus, i'd say they don't careMar 23 13:14
schestowitzoiaohm: for ein32Mar 23 13:14
oiaohmMinceR: since the same binary blob is used on windows.Mar 23 13:14
DaemonFCMinceR: They've left some really nasty ones open for years with no intention of fixing themMar 23 13:14
cubezzzanyone know of a computer made in North America?Mar 23 13:14
DaemonFCwhy should this be any different?Mar 23 13:14
oiaohmMinceR: ie any Linux bug is a Windows bug.Mar 23 13:14
MinceRoiaohm: nopeMar 23 13:14
MinceRoiaohm: they did support optimus on winblowsMar 23 13:14
DaemonFCthere's a branch called drm-prime that works with thatMar 23 13:15
oiaohmMinceR: they will on Linux as well they are waiting on dup buffer support in Linux that windows did provide.Mar 23 13:15
DaemonFCbut it's not merged Mar 23 13:15
oiaohmMinceR: Linux was a kernel level feature sort.Mar 23 13:15
oiaohmsort/shortMar 23 13:15
DaemonFCwithout Nvidia supplying any documentation, it might never work exactly rightMar 23 13:15
DaemonFCdon't buy their hardware if that bothers youMar 23 13:15
MinceRoiaohm: "will" is the key word here, as in they do not support it nowMar 23 13:15
oiaohmMinceR: they have been working with upstream to create the dup buffer system.Mar 23 13:16
oiaohmMinceR: basically its not that they are not trying.Mar 23 13:16
oiaohmMinceR: the road block was kinda a bit large.Mar 23 13:16
DaemonFCWithout Nvidia supplying any documentation, Feature X may never work.Mar 23 13:16
DaemonFCWithout Nvidia supplying any documentation, Feature X may never work.Mar 23 13:16
DaemonFCsay it with me nowMar 23 13:16
MinceRthey should have done that before they released the hardwareMar 23 13:16
DaemonFCWithout Nvidia supplying any documentation, Feature X may never work.Mar 23 13:16
MinceRDaemonFC: stop spammingMar 23 13:16
DaemonFCif that bothers you, don't give them your moneyMar 23 13:16
oiaohmMinceR: They tried.Mar 23 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Should There Be A Right To #Copyright Exceptions? - http://bit.ly/GJ4oej lots of countries seem to think soMar 23 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] "Offener Standard sein reicht nicht" - thoughtful article by FSFE's Bernhard Reiter needs translators http://ur1.ca/8s47f #dfdMar 23 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open source has a cyber security posse heading to @POSSCON by @debbryant | http://red.ht/GQtW9U #opengov #milossMar 23 13:17
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oiaohmMinceR: there was kinda a explosve debate how before they released the hardware.Mar 23 13:17
MinceRoiaohm: well, they didn't try hard enoughMar 23 13:17
DaemonFCtheir blob might be an excuse if it actually worked rightMar 23 13:17
MinceRand of course, there was and still is an obvious way to do it rightMar 23 13:17
DaemonFCbut it often does notMar 23 13:17
oiaohmMinceR: arm and x86 require kind close but different list for dup buffer.Mar 23 13:17
MinceRhint: intel's been doing it for years.Mar 23 13:17
DaemonFCand there's no other real choice for most of their hardwareMar 23 13:17
DaemonFCcertainly nothing they've helped out withMar 23 13:17
oiaohmMinceR: arm dup buffer is better than what the nvidia was putting up.Mar 23 13:18
oiaohmMinceR: long term we are going to love it.Mar 23 13:18
oiaohmMinceR: ie ati and nvidia.... cards able to share processing.Mar 23 13:18
oiaohmMinceR: since in arm video cards don't come from one vendor but many.Mar 23 13:18
MinceRlong term i guess i'll just keep a pc for serious use and another for gamingMar 23 13:18
MinceR:>Mar 23 13:18
DaemonFCMinceR: Asking Nvidia why their Linux drivers don't work right is like asking Microsoft why you have trouble playing Windows Media files on LinuxMar 23 13:18
DaemonFCit's not about youMar 23 13:18
DaemonFCthey have no interest in helping youMar 23 13:19
oiaohmMinceR: the explode was kinda due to the requirements.Mar 23 13:19
DaemonFCit does nothing for themMar 23 13:19
MinceRDaemonFC: that's the problemMar 23 13:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: Nvidia is fairly good of saying where and what busted.Mar 23 13:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: without full details.Mar 23 13:19
DaemonFCand not so good about actually fixing it, it seemsMar 23 13:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: This case is not simple.Mar 23 13:20
DaemonFCkwin and Compiz still have work arounds for Nvidia bugs that have been ongoing since at least 3-4 years agoMar 23 13:20
DaemonFCand apparently persists into their latest driver bundlesMar 23 13:20
oiaohmNot all of those are really easy to fix.Mar 23 13:20
DaemonFCwhy fix problems when "third party software" will just hack around them anyway?Mar 23 13:21
oiaohmThinking the binary blob on Linux is truely the same as windows.Mar 23 13:21
DaemonFCyour users never see most of the problemsMar 23 13:21
oiaohmSo there is direct x crud in there.Mar 23 13:21
DaemonFCso why spend money improving your driver?Mar 23 13:21
MinceRthen why aren't intel's drivers full of bugs that way?Mar 23 13:21
MinceRit's like adobe complaining you can't do x on x11, while everyone else did it already and it worksMar 23 13:21
oiaohmMinceR: intel Linux and Windows drivers are two different drives.Mar 23 13:21
DaemonFCyeah, and they do have bugsMar 23 13:21
DaemonFC!google Intel Linux RC6Mar 23 13:22
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - [Phoronix] Intel SNB RC6 On Linux 3.1 Is Both Good & Bad | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3DMTAwNjUMar 23 13:22
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - [Phoronix] Intel Flip-Flops Again: RC6 Disabled For Linux 3.2 | http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php%3Fview%3DMTAzNDgMar 23 13:22
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Intel Sandy Bridge RC6 Is Good To Go | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php%3F69030-Intel-Sandy-Bridge-RC6-Is-Good-To-GoMar 23 13:22
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - LKML: Carsten Emde: [PATCH 3/3] drivers-gpu-drm-i915-invert ... | http://lkml.org/lkml/2012/3/10/139Mar 23 13:22
DaemonFCoh shit, what's that?Mar 23 13:22
DaemonFCa bug?Mar 23 13:22
MinceRprobably, but no show-stoppers like nvidia's and (allegedly) amd'sMar 23 13:22
DaemonFCyou don't say!Mar 23 13:22
oiaohmMinceR: really.Mar 23 13:22
DaemonFCradeon isn't full of bugsMar 23 13:22
oiaohmMinceR: have you need intel opengl support for years.Mar 23 13:22
oiaohmBasically non existant.Mar 23 13:22
DaemonFCCatalyst is, but that's more like Nvidia's driver, a blob of binary crap Mar 23 13:22
MinceRbasically i've used that "non existant" opengl support several timesMar 23 13:22
DaemonFCit's just that most Nvidia users have no choiceMar 23 13:22
MinceRplaying xonotic on my tablet pc, for exampleMar 23 13:23
oiaohmMinceR: recent years got better.Mar 23 13:23
oiaohmMinceR: for many years intel was a straight up joke.Mar 23 13:23
DaemonFCCatalyst and Nvidia are both regressing lately it seemsMar 23 13:23
oiaohmMinceR: reason why intel changed was MS dropped providing software opengl in later versions of windows.Mar 23 13:23
oiaohmMinceR: Yep screwed agaisnt wall by MS so they thought they better do something.Mar 23 13:24
DaemonFCyeah, OpenGL on Windows is basically three different sets of features and bugsMar 23 13:27
DaemonFCIntel's, Nvidia's, and AMD'sMar 23 13:27
DaemonFCDirectX support is consistent because all the drivers use the same DirectX implementationMar 23 13:27
DaemonFCwhile it's possible to get good results with OpenGL on Windows, it's not something that's guaranteed to happenMar 23 13:28
DaemonFCyour application may work fine on Nvidia but not on AMD, or fine on Intel but not on Nvidia or AMD, or...pick a combinationMar 23 13:29
MinceR> while it's possible to get good results on Windows, it's not something that's guaranteed (or likely) to happenMar 23 13:29
MinceRFTFYMar 23 13:29
oiaohmDaemonFC: to be correct even under windows direct x can be buggyMar 23 13:29
oiaohmDaemonFC: the difference is under direct x you can force software versions on buggy part.Mar 23 13:29
DaemonFCyeah, but in that case you blame the hardware if the bug only shows up on one vendor's hardwareMar 23 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @documentfreedom The Pirate Party (DE) suggests every day a program excelling in the promotion of #openstandards http://www.ur1.ca/8 ...Mar 23 13:30
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DaemonFCDirectX is shared so if you come across any situations where it fails to work on just one particular vendor's card, it's a hardware problemMar 23 13:30
oiaohmDaemonFC: version 4 and up opengl is also ment to support that.Mar 23 13:30
oiaohmDaemonFC: problem is version 4 and up opengl is not everything.Mar 23 13:31
DaemonFCMesa is a good 3 years or more from OpenGL 4.2Mar 23 13:31
DaemonFCand in the mean time, there's going to be further revisions of courseMar 23 13:31
DaemonFClook how long they were stuck on OpenGL 2Mar 23 13:32
oiaohmCurrent rate maybe not.Mar 23 13:32
DaemonFCOpenGL 3 doesn't even fully work on Intel even though it's happy to lie and say it doesMar 23 13:32
oiaohmOpengl 2 not good measure.Mar 23 13:32
DaemonFCfirst off, the shader performance is horrendous with Intel because some of it has to fall back to software-accelerationMar 23 13:33
DaemonFCand secondly, the X server needs patchedMar 23 13:33
DaemonFCto support arb_create_contextMar 23 13:33
DaemonFCso Intel's OpenGL 3 is kind of a lieMar 23 13:33
DaemonFCit won't work in compatibility profile context until at least later this yearMar 23 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Operation #Sarkozy : how the #CIA placed one of its agents at the presidency of the French Republic http://goo.gl/szM78 #intell #psyopsMar 23 13:33
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DaemonFCand their shaders are going to be poorly performing no matter what they doMar 23 13:34
DaemonFCthey're really not even good enough to claim that they're optimal for OpenGL 2Mar 23 13:34
formic_msb__ http://youtu.be/Ru0wr7-KbjAMar 23 13:34
oiaohmhttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/tree/docs/GL3.txt  << read DaemonFCMar 23 13:34
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DaemonFCon almost all Intel graphics, it will say Limited shader support if you ask about shadersMar 23 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @karsten: The Pirate Party (DE) suggests every day a program excelling in the promotion of #openstandards http://www.ur1.ca/8rkuk #dfdMar 23 13:35
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DaemonFCRadeon and Intel have opposite problemsMar 23 13:35
oiaohmDaemonFC: also I was wrong.  Core/compatibility profiles  is 3.2 that is the software patch up mode to opps driver does not work.Mar 23 13:35
DaemonFCRadeon hardware is good and waiting for the driver to catch upMar 23 13:36
DaemonFCIntel's driver is already admitting it will bite off more than the hardware can chewMar 23 13:36
DaemonFCthey make crapMar 23 13:36
oiaohmDaemonFC: if you look at list lot of 3.x line is done.Mar 23 13:36
DaemonFCsomeone on a current generation Mac Mini posted their Doom 3 framerate and I about fell over laughingMar 23 13:37
DaemonFCmy Radeon card in 2004 was doing better than thatMar 23 13:37
DaemonFCand it wasn't even top of the lineMar 23 13:37
DaemonFCIntel doesn't make graphics chipsets you can really expect to game onMar 23 13:38
DaemonFCthey're only just good enough to run Windows Aero or maybe GNOME or Kwin's OpenGL compositorMar 23 13:38
DaemonFCand not much elseMar 23 13:38
oiaohmDaemonFC: really one of those I was really laughingMar 23 13:38
oiaohmDaemonFC: reason one of the arm chips here was beating it.Mar 23 13:39
oiaohmDaemonFC: and that was emulating x86Mar 23 13:39
DaemonFCAMD's current lineup of integrated GPUs will fucking kill anything from IntelMar 23 13:39
DaemonFCthere's just no gentle way to put thatMar 23 13:39
DaemonFCeven Phoronix/Openbenchmarking shows thatMar 23 13:39
msb__formic_: Interesting.  Thanks!  More telling than his blurry pupils are those screechy noises he's making.Mar 23 13:40
DaemonFCand that's not exactly a battle of giantsMar 23 13:40
oiaohmThere is a issue  DaemonFCMar 23 13:40
oiaohmThey killed the decated floating point processor.Mar 23 13:40
oiaohmSo games that love both are in trouble.Mar 23 13:40
DaemonFCif I was stuck with a laptop, I'd much rather it be from AMD than IntelMar 23 13:41
DaemonFCso that I could at least use my desktop without lagMar 23 13:41
DaemonFCif a game from 2004 brings Intel HD to its knees, I'd struggle to think of anything that wouldn't Mar 23 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @tim_esselens: I did some data visualization for #dierentheater, results on http://ur1.ca/8s4ka #ope http://ur1. ...Mar 23 13:42
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oiaohmReally I am hoping for some of the latter arm protos that have like a 100 core reprogramable chip next to it.Mar 23 13:42
DaemonFCif you're on a desktop that really doesn't matterMar 23 13:42
DaemonFCif you hate Intel's crappy HD graphics you can just slap any $20 video card in there and it would be an upgradeMar 23 13:43
DaemonFCin light of how bad Intel HD and most of their GMAs suck, I guess I can see why they went with PowerVR SGX 540 as the GMA 500Mar 23 13:44
oiaohmDaemonFC: I do find the one new arm chip interesting.Mar 23 13:44
DaemonFCthey never would have lived that down if they tried putting one of theirs in with the AtomMar 23 13:44
oiaohm32 bit processor in under 1mm x 1mm Mar 23 13:45
formic_msb__ what do you think of the moonMar 23 13:45
oiaohmNow that is a processor you can lose.Mar 23 13:45
DaemonFCPowerVR kind of screws over Linux usersMar 23 13:46
DaemonFCbut they were marketing those netbooks with Vista7 Crippleware mostly anywayMar 23 13:46
DaemonFCso they had no reason to care what it did if you tried to replace thatMar 23 13:46
MinceRwill the new arm chip have free video drivers for gnu/linux?Mar 23 13:46
DaemonFCMinceR: Most of the existing ARM GPUs are either PowerVR or NvidiaMar 23 13:47
DaemonFCPowerVR has minimal open soruce supportMar 23 13:47
DaemonFCNvidia might have Nouveau but I don't know for sureMar 23 13:47
DaemonFCit's going to be messy Mar 23 13:48
DaemonFCthat's why Canonical is working to get the hardware shipping with UbuntuMar 23 13:48
DaemonFCso they can toss in a blob and you won't be any the wiserMar 23 13:48
formic_msb__ I've come across good evidence that suggests the moon is a hollowed out base of some sortMar 23 13:48
DaemonFCformic_: Like the death star?Mar 23 13:48
formic_yesMar 23 13:49
oiaohmMinceR: maliMar 23 13:49
oiaohmMinceR: arm is making there own open spec video card.Mar 23 13:49
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimas_%28moon%29Mar 23 13:49
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Mali is becoming quite popular.Mar 23 13:49
DaemonFCThat's no moon, it's a space station!Mar 23 13:49
formic_That's what Lucas based the death star onMar 23 13:50
DaemonFC"This is purely coincidental, as the first film was made three years before the first close-up photographs of Mimas were taken.[16]"Mar 23 13:50
DaemonFC-WikipediaMar 23 13:50
formic_I wouldn't doubt he had insider access before the pictures were made publicMar 23 13:51
formic_Stanley Kubrick managed to get a lot of fame for filming the moon landingMar 23 13:51
DaemonFCthey were taken three years after the movie was madeMar 23 13:51
DaemonFCso how would he have seen pictures that didn't exist for three more years?Mar 23 13:51
formic_They would have had pictures they took before they didn't releaseMar 23 13:52
DaemonFCI doubt NASA is covering up where George Lucas got the Death Star idea fromMar 23 13:52
MinceRoiaohm: so, how is the driver support for mali?Mar 23 13:52
DaemonFCMinceR: What do you think about the alleged NASA/George Lucas/Death Star cover up?Mar 23 13:53
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 13:53
formic_NASA sure wouldMar 23 13:53
oiaohmMinceR: perfect for Linux. Mar 23 13:54
oiaohmMinceR: reference driver is done for the Linux kernel.Mar 23 13:54
MinceRicMar 23 13:54
MinceRis it going to be in mainline?Mar 23 13:54
MinceRor it already is?Mar 23 13:55
oiaohmMali is already mainline.Mar 23 13:55
oiaohmThere are newer versions coming.Mar 23 13:55
oiaohmhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/5077/arms-malit658-gpu-in-2013-up-to-10x-faster-than-mali400Mar 23 13:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AnandTech     - ARM's Mali-T658 GPU in 2013, Up to 10x Faster than Mali-400 .::. Size~: 55.65 KBMar 23 13:55
oiaohmBasically PowerVR is kinda dead tech going.Mar 23 13:55
MinceR:)Mar 23 13:55
DaemonFCThe Death Star plans are not in the main computerMar 23 13:55
formic_NASA had no problem working with former nazi'sMar 23 13:55
DaemonFCbut we did find them on The Pirate BayMar 23 13:55
DaemonFCSend a DMCA notice at once.Mar 23 13:56
DaemonFCYES LORD VADER!Mar 23 13:56
formic_The moon is just a reptilian space shipMar 23 13:58
DaemonFChttp://developer.amd.com/Downloads/OpenCL1.2betadriversLinux.tgzMar 23 13:59
DaemonFChmmmMar 23 13:59
formic_They hollowed out asteroids and giant rocks for ships and weaponsMar 23 13:59
formic_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFQqKtWj_qYMar 23 13:59
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formic_look, they crashed the linkbotMar 23 14:00
formic_spookyMar 23 14:00
DaemonFCthis is interestingMar 23 14:01
DaemonFCthe FGLRX version is 8.96Mar 23 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @documentfreedom The Pirate Party (DE) suggests every day a program excelling in the promotion of #openstandards http://www.ur1.ca/8 ...Mar 23 14:02
MinceRi thought the arachnids did thatMar 23 14:02
MinceRand launched that rock from klendathu to the earthMar 23 14:02
DaemonFCnobody from AMD ever updates their documentationMar 23 14:03
DaemonFCincluded in this bundle....Mar 23 14:03
DaemonFC    Linux is a clone of the operating system UNIX, written from scratch by Linus Torvalds with assistance from many developers across the Internet. Most Linux software, including Linux itself, is available as Open Source.Mar 23 14:04
DaemonFC    Open Source software developers make their source code available to the public, with no fees or royalties for use or distribution, and usually covered by the GNU General Public License. This agreement explains the goals of the Open Source movement in detail.Mar 23 14:04
DaemonFC    Linux by itself provides only a command-line interface (like DOS). For a Graphical User Interface, many Linux distributions provide XFree86, an Open Source implementation of the X-Window System that runs on UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems.Mar 23 14:04
DaemonFC    Linux software for AMD products will usually involve XFree86.Mar 23 14:04
DaemonFCuh huh...Mar 23 14:04
MinceRlolMar 23 14:04
DaemonFCit still refers to LindowsMar 23 14:05
DaemonFCand MandrakeMar 23 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] 22% der #Prolinux leser beteiligen sich an #DFD #SFD und anderen Aktionstagen. Allein deswegen sind sie gut http://ur1.ca/8s4uy #DankeMar 23 14:05
DaemonFCLinux is just like DOSMar 23 14:06
DaemonFCcomplete with real modeMar 23 14:06
DaemonFCand 640k of RAMMar 23 14:06
DaemonFCand Linus wrote the whole thing with a little bit of outside helpMar 23 14:06
DaemonFC:DMar 23 14:06
DaemonFCit's open source you see....Mar 23 14:06
DaemonFCwith open source, companies can STEAL STEAL STEAL and occasionally stroke the ego of the DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERSMar 23 14:07
DaemonFCso there's actually nothing in this archive except for a beta of this month's driver + OpenCL 1.2Mar 23 14:08
DaemonFCand a tree of documentation that's at least 10 years oldMar 23 14:08
DaemonFCokMar 23 14:08
DaemonFCit claims it can build me some RPMs for Fedora 10Mar 23 14:10
formic_modernMar 23 14:11
DaemonFCPackage Maintainer(s): Niko Mirthes <nmirthes@gmail.com>Mar 23 14:11
DaemonFC                      Michael Larabel <michael@phoronix.com>Mar 23 14:11
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 14:11
DaemonFChe stopped maintaining the packages when he started pimping Ubuntu Mar 23 14:11
DaemonFCtheir turnaround is so slow that I doubt this would even work if I attempted to install them on Fedora 17Mar 23 14:14
DaemonFCalthough it would work on Ubuntu 12.04 since they ship an older kernel and a much older X serverMar 23 14:14
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69429-Catalyst-12-3-released&p=255443#post255443Mar 23 14:16
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Can you give me particular groups? We can see some stats on them over the last few months.Mar 23 14:17
DaemonFCDear AMD,Mar 23 14:17
DaemonFCWould it kill any of you idiots to update the documentation instead of shipping some that's 10 years old and lies about what Linux is and refers to Lindows and XFree86?Mar 23 14:17
DaemonFCIf you're going to ship this crap that's so outdated that it only serves to increase the download size and make you look retarded, please just strip all of it out. I don't think any of it even applies to a distribution newer than around 2002. Mar 23 14:17
DaemonFCtheir normal monthly bundle comes without any documentation at allMar 23 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] But hey: we're here. What do you want to talk about?Mar 23 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Really? That's a shame.Mar 23 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, what's your account on Diaspora? I think we might be able to follow you there.Mar 23 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also: it's been a long time. Sorry to see you go.Mar 23 14:18
DaemonFCI don't know who decided to stuff this shit into this oneMar 23 14:19
DaemonFCbut it doesn't inspire confidence that you're going to reboot with a working systemMar 23 14:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: In fact it would kill themMar 23 14:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: currently the closed source driver team has no documentation team at AMDMar 23 14:19
oiaohmThose are all on the open source driver.Mar 23 14:19
DaemonFCso they're just blindly packaging documentation that's 10 years out of date and these are the people who are maintaining the proprietary driver itselfMar 23 14:20
DaemonFCthat doesn't scream qualityMar 23 14:20
oiaohmIts packaged because its the only approved docs they have.Mar 23 14:21
oiaohmIts one of the clear signs amd want the closed source driver no more.Mar 23 14:22
oiaohmbut its not a simple process to make that reality.Mar 23 14:22
DaemonFCapparently this would build against a 3.3 kernelMar 23 14:23
DaemonFCbut only for x86-64Mar 23 14:23
DaemonFCsince they fixed that i387 bug on the 32-bit version of x86Mar 23 14:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Why do you have to delete this account? Did you make a backup of your data?Mar 23 14:23
DaemonFCbut I still doubt it would work with the current X serverMar 23 14:23
oiaohmDaemonFC: check the change logMar 23 14:24
oiaohmits about the only form of upto date documetntion the closed source driver has.Mar 23 14:24
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69429-Catalyst-12-3-released&p=255446#post255446Mar 23 14:33
DaemonFCan A-10 just flew over my houseMar 23 14:34
DaemonFChmmmMar 23 14:34
schestowitzfumigation over DawnMar 23 14:35
MinceRlolMar 23 14:35
MinceRnapalm fumigationMar 23 14:35
DaemonFCbeen a while since I've seen one, the Indiana Air National Guard operates themMar 23 14:35
schestowitz"spcial delivery"Mar 23 14:35
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Republic_A-10_Thunderbolt_IIMar 23 14:35
MinceRRepublic of Fairchild?Mar 23 14:37
schestowitzIt's what China will be caledMar 23 14:38
schestowitzwhen it improves human rights principlesMar 23 14:38
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122d_Fighter_WingMar 23 14:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Day in Spain: HTML5 and Government Linked Data http://ow.ly/1igqxOMar 23 14:38
schestowitzwhen you don't vote Left Wing you vote Fighter WingMar 23 14:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: they can carry food on the wingsMar 23 14:40
schestowitzand drop them on hungry peopleMar 23 14:40
schestowitzI think that's niceMar 23 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Announcing the Re-launch of Creative Commons Canada - http://goo.gl/YJejvMar 23 14:42
DaemonFCIt should drop some on Hungary people, I hear MinceRstan is burning old money for heat at this pointMar 23 14:42
DaemonFCthey could probably use the helpMar 23 14:42
DaemonFCB-)Mar 23 14:42
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW5GzwvnNsIMar 23 14:43
MinceRDaemonFC: what makes you think that the freezing people have access to old money?Mar 23 14:43
MinceR:>Mar 23 14:43
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DaemonFCthat Youtube video says your central bank is disposing of old money by turning it into briquettes to be burned for heatMar 23 14:44
DaemonFCthey save the good stuff to light cigars with I suspectMar 23 14:45
MinceRoh, thatMar 23 14:45
MinceRwhat's wrong with that?Mar 23 14:45
schestowitzmoney is bad paperMar 23 14:45
schestowitzit doesn't burn wellMar 23 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm not sure what the point is. But hey: we'll still be here when they come back.Mar 23 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @creativecommons Announcing the Re-launch of Creative Commons Canada - http://goo.gl/YJejvMar 23 14:45
schestowitzand has toxic partsMar 23 14:45
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schestowitzthey should just bury this garbageMar 23 14:45
MinceRthey aren't even replacing banknotes due to changing the name of the state to prepare for monarchyMar 23 14:45
MinceRit isn't on the banknotes, only on the coinsMar 23 14:45
DaemonFCMinceR: That reminds meMar 23 14:46
DaemonFCwhen is your coronation day?Mar 23 14:46
MinceRwhose?Mar 23 14:46
MinceRviktor's?Mar 23 14:46
schestowitzqueen ViktoriaMar 23 14:46
MinceRdunnoMar 23 14:46
DaemonFCcan I be vice president or something under your regime if I promise to not assassinate you?Mar 23 14:46
DaemonFCand take ZOMGTOTAL power for myselfMar 23 14:46
DaemonFC:DMar 23 14:46
MinceRthey're still in the process of getting rid of the rubberstamp robotMar 23 14:46
MinceRi think they won't do the coronation until then at leastMar 23 14:46
schestowitzthey drove up intellectualsMar 23 14:47
schestowitzsoon enough they'll lose MinceRMar 23 14:47
schestowitz"so long suckers"Mar 23 14:47
schestowitzthen they are left with sheepleMar 23 14:47
schestowitzand they can go into Nazi modeMar 23 14:47
DaemonFCeventually they'll like build a wall and shoot people that are trying to leaveMar 23 14:47
schestowitzresistance is non-existent, not just futileMar 23 14:47
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 14:47
schestowitzgroupthink and media propagandaMar 23 14:47
schestowitzthey already lay down the blockage of real mediaMar 23 14:47
schestowitzlike the Nazis did in germanyMar 23 14:47
schestowitzHungary will invade RussiaMar 23 14:48
schestowitzbut first PolandMar 23 14:48
schestowitzthey undergo a phase of disarmament -- disarming the population from its brains :-) :-)Mar 23 14:49
schestowitzMinceR is still armed and dangerousMar 23 14:49
schestowitzhe must goMar 23 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] question: any UK people know whether a council tender for schools can specify brands like this? - http://bit.ly/GKzeTH thanksMar 23 14:50
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DaemonFCmaybe he can just pretend to be as stupid as all the people around him and they'll spare himMar 23 14:50
DaemonFCworks for meMar 23 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] PS avança com novo projecto da cópia privada para evitar chumbo - http://bit.ly/GHzMY3 stupid levy averted in #pt - for the moment...Mar 23 14:52
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schestowitzDaemonFC: when they come for you,it won't workMar 23 14:53
schestowitzthey get you labelledMar 23 14:53
schestowitzthey already built you a houseMar 23 14:53
schestowitzand a coffinMar 23 14:53
schestowitz:-)Mar 23 14:53
schestowitzInternment campMar 23 14:53
schestowitzjust in caseMar 23 14:53
schestowitzin times of war there's no time for protests :-)Mar 23 14:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: make sure you go in earlyMar 23 14:57
schestowitzyou get a better room :-)Mar 23 14:57
schestowitzWhat I don't like is how those issues get tied up with paranoid fear-mongerers. the crazier claims I've heard say that Alex Jones and chums are controlled opposition to monopolise the opposition and to discredit real grievances over some serious issuesMar 23 14:58
schestowitzin east Eurpe the CIA has some torture chambersMar 23 14:58
schestowitzthey can save fuelMar 23 14:58
schestowitzand fly some "rendition" victims to those lesser-known locationsMar 23 14:59
schestowitzsomeone told me that the Midland Hotel has some rooms that look like they were used for "Rendition"Mar 23 14:59
schestowitzhidden rooms where he worksMar 23 14:59
schestowitzspiderwebs and plastered overMar 23 15:00
schestowitzsurely obsolete by nowMar 23 15:00
schestowitzthat hotel used to be used here by the Nazi party before WW2Mar 23 15:00
MinceRrendition veriteMar 23 15:00
schestowitzquite the historyMar 23 15:00
schestowitzsomething not to tell hotel guests too much aboutMar 23 15:00
schestowitzMinceR: place the apparatus in the right position, then press "Render"Mar 23 15:01
schestowitzvoila!Mar 23 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Artists Against #Copyright - http://bit.ly/GJgu7g they have existed, and still do (v @ninapaley)Mar 23 15:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Artists Against Copyright » OWNI.eu, News, Augmented .::. Size~: 75.08 KBMar 23 15:05
schestowitzhttp://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sharecast/story.cgi?story_id=19944178Mar 23 15:14
schestowitz"vaccine patent has been approved in the US."Mar 23 15:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Small caps round-up: Scancell, Keller, Goldenport...  | ShareCast - News you can use .::. Size~: 44.59 KBMar 23 15:14
schestowitzBlech!Mar 23 15:14
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69429-Catalyst-12-3-released&p=255458#post255458Mar 23 15:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Catalyst 12-3 released - Page 2 .::. Size~: 38.02 KBMar 23 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @karsten: @EPPGroup Can you ask your staff to protect their independence, not accept Microsoft's Home Use Program? http://ur1.ca/8s0qn #EPMar 23 15:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Corporate perk or monopolist bribery? « Karsten on Free Software .::. Size~: 58.35 KBMar 23 15:20
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2158760/tether-apples-ios-censors-html5-app "patent pending software is unique,"Mar 23 15:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tether gets around Apple's IOS censors with HTML5 app - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 66.82 KBMar 23 15:21
schestowitzpatents.. yaya!Mar 23 15:21
schestowitzhttp://www.geekosystem.com/yahoo-sues-facebook/Mar 23 15:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yahoo! Sues Facebook For Patent Infringement | Geekosystem .::. Size~: 53.12 KBMar 23 15:22
DaemonFChttp://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/gallery/nerd-beers/romulan-ale2.jpgMar 23 15:24
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMar 23 15:24
schestowitzno uopdates on that yetMar 23 15:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: no trademarks on Romulans?Mar 23 15:25
DaemonFChttp://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/gallery/nerd-beers/holy-grail-ale.jpgMar 23 15:25
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMar 23 15:25
DaemonFCschestowitz: Gene Roddenberry's contractMar 23 15:25
DaemonFCif you made real life versions of things mentioned in Star Trek, you got a trademark licenseMar 23 15:26
DaemonFCa company used that to make a real life "tricorder" back in the 90sMar 23 15:26
DaemonFC!google tr-107 tricorderMar 23 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Real Tricorders | http://www.stim.com/Stim-x/0996September/Sparky/tricorder.htmlMar 23 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Tricorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TricorderMar 23 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Real Tricorder TR-107 MK-I for sale on eBay - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DiTBkutSy0DkMar 23 15:27
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - TR 107 TRICORDER MARK 1 other replicas movie props from Star ... | http://www.yourprops.com/TR-107-TRICORDER-MARK-1-other-replicas-movie-props-Star-Trek--The-Next-Generation--TV---1987--prop-8935.htmlMar 23 15:27
schestowitznew: http://uk.gamespot.com/news/thq-seeking-1666-trademark-6365980Mar 23 15:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: THQ seeking '1666' trademark - GameSpot.com .::. Size~: 90.98 KBMar 23 15:27
DaemonFCI still have my tricorderMar 23 15:28
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_CSHxC1xgMar 23 15:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vital Technologies TR-107 Tricorder       - YouTube .::. Size~: 96.5 KBMar 23 15:29
formic_!google david icke truth moonMar 23 15:30
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - David Icke - The TRUTH about the MOON - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5pfl4prGZIYMar 23 15:30
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Moon Matrix - David Icke - Truth Frequency Radio - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7JjjaL23nGUMar 23 15:30
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - David Icke - The Moon Matrix - Truth Frequency Radio - David Icke ... | http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/63175-the-moon-matrix-david-icke-truth-frequency-radio-Mar 23 15:30
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Truth about the Moon - David Icke's Official Forums | http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D108382Mar 23 15:30
DaemonFCset phasers to frag!Mar 23 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mercedes has gullwing replica crushed - http://bit.ly/GQV7xH all for the love of #copyright... (v @iknowjoseph)Mar 23 15:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PistonHeads Headlines - Mercedes has Gullwing replica crushed .::. Size~: 9.18 KBMar 23 15:30
DaemonFCMr. MinceR: Arm the transphasic torpedoes Mar 23 15:30
schestowitzDaemonFC: they never get fraggedMar 23 15:30
DaemonFCand deploy hull armorMar 23 15:30
schestowitzit's daytime TVMar 23 15:31
schestowitzthey just fall to the groundMar 23 15:31
schestowitzof disappearMar 23 15:31
DaemonFCthey get fragged on my watch Mar 23 15:31
DaemonFCyou may question my style of commandMar 23 15:31
DaemonFCbut that's OKMar 23 15:31
DaemonFCMr. MinceR: Escort schestowitz to the brigMar 23 15:31
DaemonFCany other mutineers?Mar 23 15:31
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 15:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: We need to redefine what 'copy' means - http://bit.ly/GUPFMj wonderfully lucid exposition of ©'s central problem by #patryMar 23 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] NYPD intelligence officers monitored liberal groups, files reveal http://gu.com/p/36d3gMar 23 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We need to redefine what 'copy' means | William Patry | Law | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 142.46 KBMar 23 15:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NYPD intelligence officers monitored liberal groups, files reveal | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 112.04 KBMar 23 15:32
DaemonFC" NYPD intelligence officers monitored liberal groups"Mar 23 15:32
DaemonFCYeah, they were doing that for the last 50 yearsMar 23 15:32
DaemonFCwhere has this guy been?Mar 23 15:32
DaemonFCschestowitz: There is no greater threat to our way of life than workers who demand to be paidMar 23 15:33
DaemonFCwouldn't you agree?Mar 23 15:33
schestowitzformic_: LOLMar 23 15:33
schestowitzthanks for the jokeMar 23 15:33
schestowitzhis reptile stuff is  not a metaphorMar 23 15:33
DaemonFC!google flat earth societyMar 23 15:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Flat Earth Society | http://theflatearthsociety.org/Mar 23 15:34
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Flat Earth Society - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_SocietyMar 23 15:34
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Flat Earth Society -- Home | http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htmMar 23 15:34
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Documenting the Existence of "The International Flat Earth Society" | http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flatearth.htmlMar 23 15:34
schestowitzhe just finds a dumb audienceMar 23 15:34
DaemonFCis that a joke?Mar 23 15:34
schestowitzHehe, moon hollowMar 23 15:34
schestowitzAsk DavidMar 23 15:34
DaemonFCI can't believe anyone would seriously be a flat earther in this day and age :)Mar 23 15:34
schestowitzhe is an astronomer :-)Mar 23 15:34
DaemonFCof course there's people that still believe in homeopathyMar 23 15:34
schestowitzhe asked a friendMar 23 15:34
schestowitz"an incredible man"Mar 23 15:34
schestowitz"in his 80s"Mar 23 15:34
DaemonFCand demonic possession Mar 23 15:34
schestowitz"zula legend"Mar 23 15:35
schestowitzlet's learn from zulu about the moonMar 23 15:35
schestowitzhe says zulu is accurate about hisorical and science thingsMar 23 15:35
schestowitzlet's ignore nasaMar 23 15:35
schestowitzlet's learn "zulu legends relating to the moomnMar 23 15:35
schestowitzhe asked "an amazing man"Mar 23 15:35
DaemonFCNASA is probably one of the more credible US government agenciesMar 23 15:35
schestowitzHEHEMar 23 15:35
schestowitz"Reptilian race"Mar 23 15:35
formic_schestowitz - I believe in reptoidsMar 23 15:35
schestowitzThis guy is all myths and fictionMar 23 15:36
schestowitzformic_: okMar 23 15:36
schestowitzsome people believe in a GodMar 23 15:36
schestowitzand some younger ones believe in santaMar 23 15:36
schestowitzit doesn't make them realMar 23 15:36
formic_schestowitz - its good information and there are convincing vidoes on youtube exposing famous reptilian peopleMar 23 15:36
schestowitzthey are a nice storyMar 23 15:36
schestowitzthe kids love snataMar 23 15:36
DaemonFCI want a choo choo trainMar 23 15:36
schestowitzthe fable of giftsMar 23 15:36
DaemonFCand a fire engineMar 23 15:36
schestowitzand afterlife and all that s*Mar 23 15:36
schestowitzbut just because it's nice doesn't make it realMar 23 15:36
DaemonFCoh no, now it's something likeMar 23 15:37
DaemonFCI want a $500 video game consoleMar 23 15:37
DaemonFCand a big screen TV setMar 23 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Here's a new way to stand up to the anti-abortion bullies http://gu.com/p/36dvpMar 23 15:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Here's a new way to stand up to the anti-abortion bullies | James Ball | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 259.59 KBMar 23 15:37
schestowitzformic_: yeah, the royal family has youtube videos about themMar 23 15:37
DaemonFCand my own smart phoneMar 23 15:37
DaemonFCand the kid is like 10 years oldMar 23 15:37
schestowitz^_^Mar 23 15:37
formic_http://youtu.be/PeHP4hgj6GgMar 23 15:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Reptilians Exposed - OPEN YOUR EYES       - YouTube .::. Size~: 125.74 KBMar 23 15:38
formic_People who THINK would understandMar 23 15:38
formic_its so obviousMar 23 15:38
schestowitzoh dearMar 23 15:38
schestowitzsome heavy drugs droppin' her 2nite :-)Mar 23 15:38
formic_how do you explain the reptile eyesMar 23 15:39
schestowitzwhat is reptile eyes?Mar 23 15:39
formic_where the eye shifts into a slitsMar 23 15:39
DaemonFCcell phones are meant to fry your brain with reptilian bozo raysMar 23 15:39
DaemonFCjudging by the people who use them a lotMar 23 15:39
schestowitzhttp://www.potholer.co.uk/Mar 23 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Potholer's Golden Crocaduck Awards .::. Size~: 5.63 KBMar 23 15:40
formic_come on tell me Bush wasn't reptilianMar 23 15:40
formic_http://youtu.be/v9rpjVvnSJ0Mar 23 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazing Shifting  Footage Discovered-Oops!Reptilian Bush Does It Again       - YouTube .::. Size~: 142.29 KBMar 23 15:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Colombian government attempts to implement copyright reform in 3 weeks! - http://bit.ly/GJpF9y what could possibly go wrong? (v @xpectro)Mar 23 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Colombian government attempts to implement copyright reform in three weeks! .::. Size~: 38.92 KBMar 23 15:40
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWlMXl39P7sMar 23 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Coveted Golden Crocoduck nominees 2012 (Part 1)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 141.19 KBMar 23 15:40
schestowitzThat's funnyMar 23 15:40
schestowitzhe debunks it with some humour, tooMar 23 15:41
schestowitzwhich makes is funMar 23 15:41
DaemonFCschestowitz: Anything you'd like me to bring up with Kevin Smith?Mar 23 15:42
DaemonFChe's going to be on one of our local radio talk shows soonMar 23 15:42
schestowitzwho's he?Mar 23 15:42
DaemonFCDogmaMar 23 15:42
DaemonFCJay and Silent BobMar 23 15:43
DaemonFCClerksMar 23 15:43
schestowitzthe film?Mar 23 15:43
DaemonFCyeahMar 23 15:43
formic_Kevin Smith rocksMar 23 15:43
schestowitzI had it once, never watch it, or maybe I tried it and dumped itMar 23 15:43
DaemonFChe doesMar 23 15:43
schestowitzaround 2000Mar 23 15:43
schestowitzLady: "I think it's a crocodile"Mar 23 15:44
DaemonFCDogma was one of the funniest damned things I've ever seenMar 23 15:44
schestowitzHer son: "Dog ma!"Mar 23 15:44
DaemonFCGeorge Carlin was in itMar 23 15:44
DaemonFCthe part with the shit demon was hystericalMar 23 15:44
schestowitzis that a daemon?Mar 23 15:45
schestowitz /etc/init.d/shit?Mar 23 15:45
DaemonFCschestowitz: The Catholic church was sending people to stand outside of movie theaters asking people not to watch the movieMar 23 15:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] With #Cinavia #DRM, Is #Bluray On a Path To Self-Destruction? http://goo.gl/QPBKCMar 23 15:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: With Cinavia DRM, Is Blu-ray On a Path To Self-Destruction? - Slashdot .::. Size~: 277.25 KBMar 23 15:45
DaemonFCI told one of them to go fuck themselvesMar 23 15:45
schestowitzDaemonFC: instead of kids?Mar 23 15:46
DaemonFCgood pointMar 23 15:46
DaemonFCtelling me not to read or watch something usually has the opposite effectMar 23 15:46
schestowitzreverse psychMar 23 15:47
DaemonFCthere's a term for that called the Streisand effectMar 23 15:47
schestowitzthat's techdirt's termMar 23 15:47
DaemonFCBarbara Streisand tried to get some obscure photos of her house taken downMar 23 15:47
DaemonFCand it had the effect of thousands of people copying and sharing and posting them all over the place insteadMar 23 15:47
schestowitzheheMar 23 15:48
DaemonFC!google mechastreisandMar 23 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Mecha-Streisand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecha-StreisandMar 23 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Mecha-Streisand (Season 1, Episode 12) - Full Episode Player ... | http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s01e12-mecha-streisandMar 23 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - South Park - Season 1, Episode 12: Mecha-Streisand - TV.com | http://www.tv.com/shows/south-park/mecha-streisand-2428/Mar 23 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Mecha-Streisand - South Park Archives - Cartman, Comedy Central ... | http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Mecha-StreisandMar 23 15:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Twilight Studio Issues Another Bogus Takedown, But Is #Zazzle Partially To Blame? http://goo.gl/NcXdtMar 23 15:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twilight Studio Issues Another Bogus Takedown, But Is Zazzle Partially To Blame? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 76.07 KBMar 23 15:48
DaemonFC!google deleted twilight sex sceneMar 23 15:49
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Deleted "Twilight" Sex Scene - CollegeHumor Video | http://www.collegehumor.com/video/3942818/deleted-twilight-sex-sceneMar 23 15:49
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Deleted "Twilight" Sex Scene - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dt76YW7cTaHwMar 23 15:49
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Deleted Twilight Sex Scene - Video Dailymotion | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8x5c5_deleted-twilight-sex-scene_sportMar 23 15:49
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Deleted "Twilight" Sex Scene - Video | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4502240/deleted_twilight_sex_scene/Mar 23 15:49
DaemonFC:)Mar 23 15:49
DaemonFCbutt sex is different! <whisper>I'm not going to wear a condomMar 23 15:50
DaemonFCshe says "But I have one right here!"Mar 23 15:50
DaemonFC*HISS!!!!* NO!!!Mar 23 15:50
DaemonFChttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120322/15320518214/facebook-has-to-waste-money-750-ibm-patents-just-to-ward-off-other-patent-lawsuits.shtmlMar 23 15:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Has To Waste Money On 750 IBM Patents Just To Ward Off Other Patent Lawsuits | Techdirt .::. Size~: 91.89 KBMar 23 15:52
DaemonFCthey want patents for the same reason Microsoft and Apple want themMar 23 15:53
DaemonFCso they can sue any potential competitors out of businessMar 23 15:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: LOLMar 23 16:06
schestowitz"one-man show"Mar 23 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] .@cippic and @UOttawaCLaw hosting CC Salon on #OpenData Mar 30 - http://goo.gl/QN4dv Live stream too!Mar 23 16:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Home | CC Salon Ottawa: Open Data .::. Size~: 11.49 KBMar 23 16:13
schestowitzDaemonFC: that vampire genre is patnsMar 23 16:14
*XFaCE gives voice to brendyn DaemonFC formic_ gde33Mar 23 16:15
*XFaCE gives voice to libertybox_ TechrightsBot-trMar 23 16:15
schestowitzthe whole buffy and other vampire-themed stuff is crapMar 23 16:15
schestowitzI once dated a girl who was into that stuffMar 23 16:15
schestowitzbuffy is a crap seriesMar 23 16:15
XFaCEschestowitz: Wait, even the Dracula movies?Mar 23 16:15
schestowitzone of the worst I ever tried, several times evenMar 23 16:15
schestowitzis there demand for this rubbish?Mar 23 16:15
schestowitzXFaCE: yah, rubbishMar 23 16:15
XFaCEPuh-leezeMar 23 16:15
XFaCEThose are classicsMar 23 16:15
schestowitzwhat's the storyline appeal of people who suck blood?Mar 23 16:16
DaemonFCschestowitz: The fact that you put up with that says a lot about you :)Mar 23 16:16
schestowitznoMar 23 16:16
XFaCEschestowitz: The original Dracula movies were about overcoming evilMar 23 16:16
schestowitzshe was a Twilight fanMar 23 16:16
schestowitzfor yearsMar 23 16:16
XFaCEThat's inexcusableMar 23 16:16
schestowitzsome people find those stories romanticMar 23 16:16
XFaCEShould have been a Doctor Who fan isnteadMar 23 16:16
schestowitzsecret powers reversedMar 23 16:16
schestowitzsecret evilsMar 23 16:16
schestowitzXFaCE: or star trekMar 23 16:17
schestowitzthe new generationMar 23 16:17
XFaCE*nextMar 23 16:17
XFaCEOr even StargateMar 23 16:17
schestowitzthe rest are godawful, esp. the ones after pat stewart and weatonMar 23 16:17
XFaCEDS9 has excellent writingMar 23 16:17
XFaCEVoy/ENT did notMar 23 16:17
schestowitzI don't like scifi, but star trek next gen was something I grew up withMar 23 16:18
schestowitzMr Data was a favMar 23 16:18
XFaCEENT at least not until Season 4Mar 23 16:18
XFaCElolMar 23 16:18
XFaCE"Mr. Data"Mar 23 16:18
schestowitzhe was at least a bit funnyMar 23 16:18
schestowitzremember when they installed some humour in him?Mar 23 16:19
schestowitzWith a chipset?Mar 23 16:19
XFaCEYou mean that shitty movie Generations?Mar 23 16:19
schestowitza few days ago one of my client saidMar 23 16:19
schestowitz"was there a star trek convention?"Mar 23 16:19
schestowitzCause I told her I was in London last weekendMar 23 16:19
XFaCEErr I don't get is :SMar 23 16:19
schestowitzI once accidentally mailed her back with my "StarDate" sigMar 23 16:20
XFaCEahh, yes. I've encountered that oneMar 23 16:20
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3NjIMar 23 16:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Early AMD Catalyst 12.3 Linux Drivers Seep Out .::. Size~: 18.74 KBMar 23 16:20
MinceRstardate sg-1Mar 23 16:20
schestowitzXFaCE: did ya?Mar 23 16:20
schestowitzMaybe a mistakeMar 23 16:20
schestowitzi've had it for many years thiughMar 23 16:20
schestowitzusually I delete it manuallyMar 23 16:20
XFaCEschestowitz: When we did the GPG key testMar 23 16:20
DaemonFC!google captain archer apologyMar 23 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - A Night in Sickbay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Night_in_SickbayMar 23 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Captain Jonathan Archer (Character) - Quotes | http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001458/quotesMar 23 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Porthos - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki | http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/PorthosMar 23 16:20
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Enterprise Transcripts - A Night In Sickbay | http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/30.htmMar 23 16:20
XFaCEDaemonFC: Captain Archer was a "duchess" in the first seasonMar 23 16:21
schestowitzCaptain's log. We received a signal from Sam Reed on StarDate 22/03/12 19:37. Translated to English it stated:Mar 23 16:21
DaemonFCwell, I think they were trying to portray him as being kind of new to the jobMar 23 16:21
XFaCEschestowitz: I think you did it intentionally. We were just testing our gpg keys, remember?Mar 23 16:21
XFaCESpeaking of which, the M$ trolls level of side-swiping attacks is incredibleMar 23 16:22
XFaCEschestowitz: I looked up my username and your last name, and actually found a forum criticizing you for "wasting time at work"Mar 23 16:23
XFaCEbased on that conversation we had about the sounds you use when you receive emailsMar 23 16:23
XFaCEIn other words, MS troll circle jerk-offMar 23 16:23
XFaCEin more ways than oneMar 23 16:23
DaemonFChttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2012-March/013237.htmlMar 23 16:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [ubuntu/precise] fglrx-installer 2:8.960-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) .::. Size~: 5.03 KBMar 23 16:24
DaemonFCthat particular bug was fixed in 12.2Mar 23 16:24
DaemonFCbut Ubuntu never officially packaged thatMar 23 16:24
XFaCE12.2 of what?Mar 23 16:24
schestowitzI never waste time at workMar 23 16:24
schestowitzI do quite the oppositeMar 23 16:24
schestowitzI take good advantage of my timeMar 23 16:24
schestowitzI always found very good jobs that require not much and pay very wellMar 23 16:24
XFaCEI know, but these guys were taking what you said about email sounds and using even that to attack youMar 23 16:24
DaemonFCCatalystMar 23 16:25
XFaCEYeah, great victory guys, you win a prizeMar 23 16:25
schestowitzI have good discipline, I am accurate, and i am consistentMar 23 16:25
XFaCEAnd transparentyMar 23 16:25
schestowitzI can do tasks very reliably and possess the knowledge to do those tasksMar 23 16:25
XFaCESomething these trolls will never beMar 23 16:25
schestowitzWhen I was 20 I got a job I held for years, helping professors with their machinesMar 23 16:25
XFaCEschestowitz: They're just trying to bait youMar 23 16:25
schestowitzI'd have to literally answer maybe 1-2 emails a day, pick up the phone a similar number of timesMar 23 16:26
schestowitzOnce a week I might have a guest, that's allMar 23 16:26
schestowitzHad my own office, 4 computers..Mar 23 16:26
XFaCEYou don't have to tell meMar 23 16:26
XFaCEAs I said, they're just trying to bait youMar 23 16:26
schestowitzright now I work from homeMar 23 16:26
schestowitzA few hours a day, pays loads of moneyMar 23 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why aren't there more women in tech? Wrong question (CNET): http://cnet.co/GRTsX6Mar 23 16:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why aren't there more women in tech? Wrong question | The Social Analyst - CNET News .::. Size~: 80.58 KBMar 23 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM: Puzzles provide clues to better analysis (CIO): http://bit.ly/GJxe07Mar 23 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IBM: Puzzles provide clues to better analysis - software, IBM, data mining, business intelligence, applications - CIO .::. Size~: 83.89 KBMar 23 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #copyrightmafia's approach to piracy is like #BrewstersMillions; "how to waste as much money as quickly as possible"Mar 23 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "alright folks, let's brainstorm, how do we ensure that we lose as much money & customers as possible in the most effective way" #DRMMar 23 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "ideas on how to set things up to refuse peoples money who want to pay, kill all free publicity from fans & rack up decades of ill will"Mar 23 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "well, if we put a 3 month delay on selling outside our country we'll push 1m to get it bypassing us, losing us potentially 1m sales"Mar 23 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "excellent, 1m huh? now let's see if we can't enhance that, how about 6 months delay?, perhaps just a blanket region block?"Mar 23 16:47
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69717-Early-AMD-Catalyst-12-3-Linux-Drivers-Seep-Out&p=255476#post255476Mar 23 16:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench @laurelrusswurm Very true, perfection is an illusion.Mar 23 16:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Facebook tells employers not to ask job seekers for log-in info (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/GRtAfuMar 23 17:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] too many late nights... thinking of having more #coffee since I'm being singularly unproductiveMar 23 17:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Prometheus bound: An important precedent for the next software patent case by @rtiller http://red.ht/GKjxaP #foss #swpatentsMar 23 17:07
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XFaCEhttp://techrights.org/2012/03/22/win8-fail/Mar 23 17:13
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XFaCEdeja vuMar 23 17:13
XFaCE"Just plug it in, and it's going to say 'Hey I see you've plugged in a new device', and it's going to load the appropriate drivers... you notice that this scanner build... woah".Mar 23 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to modern day minstrel @joshwoodward "Under The Stairs" hauntingly beautiful music for a chilling story http://www.ur1.ca/8q0g7Mar 23 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] taxing ciggies was designed to push the price out of kids reach, it didn't work, they find the money somehow, it won't work with boozeMar 23 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] New Fellowship interview with Guido Günther on his story of engagement with #freesoftware is online. !gnu http://www.ur1.ca/8s7dyMar 23 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The Nouveau driver graduates from staging http://ur1.ca/8s7htMar 23 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 The notes for today's very brief session of the !FreeByron trial: http://www.ur1.ca/8s7hw -- Agreed Statement not done. !CDNpoliMar 23 17:25
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XFaCEA moment of sanityMar 23 17:25
XFaCEhttp://torrentfreak.com/judge-bittorrent-downloads-are-protected-anonymous-speech-120321/Mar 23 17:25
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XFaCE"Miami Judge Marc Schumacher has issued a landmark order in which he protects accused BitTorrent downloaders from mass-lawsuits filed by copyright holders. One of the main arguments of the judge is that these “fishing expeditions” violate BitTorrent users’ right to anonymous speech, which is protected by the constitution. The order effectively kills all BitTorrent lawsuits in Florida state courts."Mar 23 17:26
XFaCENow, that ruling must spreadMar 23 17:26
schestowitzMAFIAA will need to 'fix' the law nowMar 23 17:26
schestowitzwith friends like DoddsMar 23 17:26
schestowitzpass hima  bribeMar 23 17:26
schestowitzhave him spread it on to hundreds of politiciansMar 23 17:26
schestowitzslush fundsMar 23 17:26
schestowitzwhen Hollywood makes trillionsMar 23 17:27
XFaCEdammitMar 23 17:28
XFaCE"Judge: BitTorrent Downloads Are Protected Anonymous Speech (Updated)Mar 23 17:28
XFaCE    ErnestoMar 23 17:28
XFaCE    March 21, 2012Mar 23 17:28
XFaCE    77Mar 23 17:28
XFaCE    copyright trolls,Mar 23 17:28
XFaCE    extortionMar 23 17:28
XFaCE    PrintMar 23 17:28
XFaCEMiami Judge Marc Schumacher has issued a landmark order in which he protects accused BitTorrent downloaders from mass-lawsuits filed by copyright holders. One of the main arguments of the judge is that these “fishing expeditions” violate BitTorrent users’ right to anonymous speech, which is protected by the constitution. The order effectively kills all BitTorrent lawsuits in Florida state courts.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCEanonymousEvery first year law student knows that copyright-related court cases are exclusively a matter of federal law. You can’t bring a copyright suit in state court, period.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCEHowever, starting last year more and more BitTorrent-related cases were filed at Florida state courts. The copyright holders in these cases are exploiting a loophole based on the pure bill of discovery, which allows them to demand subpoenas to send to Internet providers without having to provide any evidence.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCEFor months this cheap trick proved to be very effective, but not anymore. In the case of movie studio Boy Racer against 615 unnamed BitTorrent users, Judge Marc Schumacher has issued a landmark ruling.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCEThe judge starts off by describing mass-BitTorrent lawsuits as “fishing expeditions” and brands the copyright holders as trolls.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCE“[These suits are].. used to extort settlements from defendants who are neither subject to the courts’ personal jurisdiction nor guilty of copyright infringement, but who are fearful of the consequences of being publicly named as a defendant in a suit that seeks disclosure of the contents of their personal computers.”Mar 23 17:28
XFaCEThe judge notes that many federal courts have dismissed BitTorrent lawsuits, and he himself now does the same, but for different reasons.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCEThe basis of the dismissal is the fact that “copyright trolls” are violating BitTorrent users’ right to anonymous speech, a right that’s protected by the First Amendment.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCE“The Supreme Court often has recogniMar 23 17:28
XFaCEoopsMar 23 17:28
XFaCEschestowitz: meant this partMar 23 17:28
XFaCE"Update: Shortly after this article was published we learned that the order in question has been vacated.Mar 23 17:28
XFaCEIt turns out that the order was drafted by a defense attorney and Judge Schumacher apparently signed it by mistake, assuming all parties agreed on it. This is bad news for the defendants and means that the mass-BitTorrent lawsuits in Florida state courts are very much alive for now. "Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzokMar 23 17:29
XFaCEGoddamitMar 23 17:29
XFaCEOne step forward, thirteen steps backMar 23 17:29
schestowitzHehe, I pondered hitti g the panic buttonMar 23 17:29
schestowitzthe "paste gone out of control" opMar 23 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Prometheus bound: An important precedent for the next software patent case (opensource.com) http://ur1.ca/8s7kaMar 23 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Byron Sonne's trial will resume Monday Friday March 25th (probably 10am,room 2-2 at 361 University Ave) !FreeByron !CDNPoli !Canada #charterMar 23 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] U.S. House of Reps subcommittee to hold Mar 29 hearing on access to federally funded research; live webcast http://goo.gl/RMJ0W #OAMar 23 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Vicious attack-tweets spewed under the #ndpldr hashtag illustrate perfectly what's wrong with adversarial democracy #FairVoteMar 23 17:37
XFaCEschestowitz: We should have Wayne Borean on an episode of TechbytesMar 23 17:39
XFaCEschestowitz: http://madhatter.ca/2012/03/21/mayo-collaborative-services-v-prometheus-commentary/Mar 23 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @GoatmealCrisp Spectacular speech by Andrea Horwath. New Democrats "putting fear in the hearts" of Harper Tories. #ndpldrMar 23 17:43
XFaCEschestowitz: http://www.canadianappeals.com/files/2011/11/head-sand1.jpgMar 23 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security advisories http://ur1.ca/8s7yeMar 23 17:45
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/tagtasher/statuses/183199543582658560Mar 23 17:46
TechrightsBot-tr@tagtasher: http://t.co/sxiBW8bc Nokia Inevitably Realises Linux is Better Than Windows, they MUST.Mar 23 17:46
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schestowitzXFaCE: I wait for tim to be onlinMar 23 17:47
schestowitzonlineMar 23 17:47
XFaCEyeahMar 23 17:47
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/steve-jobs-job-offer-wasnt-good-enough-for-linus-torvalds?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ostatic+%28OStatic%29Mar 23 17:49
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iophkJobs tried to get him to drop his work on Linux.  If Jobs had asked Torvalds to join as part of porting OS X away from Mach to the Linux kernel, then maybe the answer would have been different.Mar 23 17:51
XFaCE'deedMar 23 17:51
XFaCEI recall the account from Torvalds' autobioMar 23 17:51
schestowitzof this?Mar 23 17:52
XFaCEyesMar 23 17:52
schestowitzDid he mention this?Mar 23 17:52
iophkYes, it's been around for years.  It also turned up in the plethora of anecdotes about Jobs just after his death.Mar 23 17:52
XFaCEHe mentioned when he met with Jobs, and it sounds similar to what is being described hereMar 23 17:52
iophkIt was just after coming to the US.Mar 23 17:53
XFaCE""...Around 2000, when he was still working at Transmeta, [Linus] met Steve Jobs. Jobs invited him to Apple’s Cupertino campus and tried to hire him. 'Unix for the biggest user base: that was the pitch,' says Torvalds.""Mar 23 17:53
XFaCEThe book described that Linus wasn't interested in dominating desktop market share. In other words, Jobs misunderstood his intentionsMar 23 17:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] DOJ Signs New Rules To Let Intelligence Officials Access, Store And Search More Info About US Citizens http://goo.gl/pt2LD #PoliceStateMar 23 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Facebook's Privacy Day Diversion http://goo.gl/5fRSD #fbMar 23 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hospital in Porto to switch 3000 PCs to open source office suite | Joinup http://goo.gl/KcBkh #pt #flossfiles COOL :)Mar 23 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One way to say you do not fancy #gnome3 http://ur1.ca/8s85cMar 23 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Drupal Open Source is Built on Passion (and soon Symfony) http://ur1.ca/8s86d #cms #drupalMar 23 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Xubuntu 12.04 Beta Screenshots http://ur1.ca/8s87k #xfceMar 23 18:03
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XFaCEschestowitz: Meet the new Xubuntu, same as the old XubuntuMar 23 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wanted: The Truck Driver Who Lost His Job Due To File Sharing - http://bit.ly/GIWLCC ha!Mar 23 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kazakh gold medallist is played Borat anthem in Kuwait - http://bbc.in/GJEIOK you can't make this stuff up (v @The Mormegil)Mar 23 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺‏ @camdearlove What a speech by @nathancullen. I've become a big fan of Nathan throughout this race #ndpldr http://pic.twitter.com/OsRqgNIaMar 23 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @pfthurley Cardinal notes @PaulDewar brings ideas of Respect, Reconciliation, and Relationship. That's part of why I support him #ndpldrMar 23 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LibreOffice 3.4.6 Released http://ur1.ca/8s8co #odf #tdfMar 23 18:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kazakh gold medallist is played Borat anthem in Kuwait http://bbc.in/GJEIOK at least she will get a lot more intl' publicity nowMar 23 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Hah… thought I'd see Charlie Angus sing but must circumvent TPMs to see CTV Newschannel on #linux ~ be illegal under !C11 #ndpldr !CDNpoliMar 23 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sony releases source code for the Xperia S - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/oHcXd #mobile #androidMar 23 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Comice OS 4 - available now http://ur1.ca/8s8ie #gnu #linuxMar 23 18:27
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schestowitz#google supports #gnu http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=7168 #fsfMar 23 18:29
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XFaCEhttp://feeds.falkvinge.net/~r/Falkvinge-on-Infopolicy/~3/vGLZ5_fFK9Q/Mar 23 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #google supports #gnu http://ur1.ca/8s8js #fsfMar 23 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Copyright isn't dead just because we're not willing to let it regulate us http://ur1.ca/8s8o4 #Copyright works well.. for the cartelMar 23 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does your business benefit from open source? http://ur1.ca/8s8qb #opensourceMar 23 18:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @bobjonkman Judge: What I find disturbing about Excel…you can move the columns or change…size to view…text !FreeByron http://ur1.ca/8s84wMar 23 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Copyright isn't dead just because we're not willing to let it regulate us http://ur1.ca/8s8o4 #Copyright works well.. fo ...Mar 23 18:48
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1450870Mar 23 18:51
schestowitz'I don't really see a difference 'Mar 23 18:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Xubuntu 12.04 Beta Screenshots http://gnuman.com/xubuntu-12-04-beta-screenshots/ #xfceMar 23 18:51
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schestowitzcanonical only cares about unity desktopMar 23 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Patent Lawyers Are Clueless About the Software Industry - Megan McArdle - Business - The Atlantic http://goo.gl/VBGaoMar 23 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mcnalu @thistleweb my favourite example is cars: price of petrol has tripled since I first drove and there are more cars than ever o ...Mar 23 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !science world frontiers: New human population found in East Asia http://goo.gl/muvfEMar 23 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #LibreOffice Cloud not coming next month - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/yCeHS #flossMar 23 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle 11g certified for Oracle Linux and Red Hat http://ur1.ca/8s9f2 #oracle #rhel #gnu #linuxMar 23 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wishtel Ira tablet takes on Aakash with Rs 4,000 price http://ur1.ca/8s9fu #linux #tablet #android #indiaMar 23 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdesmet_ - @HansBxl → zie gplus #noneedtothankmeMar 23 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken moet gij niet werken aan uwen thesis? ;)Mar 23 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Aha, coffee is already served for tomorrow's @appsforghent. Feel free to stop by! http://t.co/ZJMqK04tMar 23 19:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux 3.4 will support GeForce GTX 680 and Southern Islands GPUs http://ur1.ca/8s9gl #linuxMar 23 19:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Plain and simple, Linux needs applications http://ur1.ca/8s9jf what it needs are more games probablyMar 23 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Plain and simple, Linux needs applications | ITworld .::. Size~: 139.76 KBMar 23 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gimme A Light Linux from Vector (7.0) http://ur1.ca/8s9ke #linux #gnuMar 23 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP says it will commit to Linux as mission critical market share rises http://ur1.ca/8s9kv #linux #kernel #hpMar 23 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] I know it happened but I have very little insight into itMar 23 19:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP says it will commit to Linux as mission critical market share rises - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 63.08 KBMar 23 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Followfriday @glynmoody @laurelrusswurm @creativecommons @thistlewebMar 23 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Friday song: DANIELA MERCURY - SANTA HELENA (cd sol da liberdade) http://ur1.ca/8s9mnMar 23 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China's Twitter-Spam War Against Pro-#Tibet Activists - http://bit.ly/GKCUX0 interesting analysisMar 23 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Scientific Linux, the Great Distro With the Wrong Name (Linux.com) http://ur1.ca/8s9rqMar 23 19:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/183273607827431424?iid=am-150023031913325308079805713&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Mar 23 19:40
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz many thanks for thatMar 23 19:40
schestowitzUbuntu is GOOD, it has NEW WALLPAPERS !!Mar 23 19:48
schestowitzhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/The-New-Wallpapers-of-Ubuntu-12-04-LTS-260393.shtmlMar 23 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The New Wallpapers of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - Softpedia .::. Size~: 56.29 KBMar 23 19:48
schestowitzdevelop~1 develop~1 develop~1 develop~1 Mar 23 19:49
MinceRooh, there's even a brown oneMar 23 19:50
schestowitzThey think of everything !!Mar 23 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: .@EU_Commission asks court to fine #Portugal regarding universal service #telecoms http: http://p.ost.im/p/e44C9mMar 23 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @arjenpdevries: @NeelieKroesEU on three trends in science: more collaboration, big data, in silico exper http://p.ost.im/p/e4mQeFMar 23 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @OpenAccessEC: Various articles and opinions on #OA in http://t.co/8hBLM3eS on Open Science and Data Sha http://p.ost.im/p/e429J6Mar 23 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @quarsan also about boosting digital skills, tools so you can help others get online to http://p.ost.im/p/e49fxCMar 23 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Next week's Get Online Week! Check out some great resources find out what's going on ne http://p.ost.im/p/e46gDeMar 23 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #ff @techallstars - now looking for Europe's hottest new start-up talent http://t.co/CbE http://p.ost.im/p/e4CJhQMar 23 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Government IT contractors hire staff in India to work on benefits system http://gu.com/p/36db3 MPs being lying bastards? #notsurprisedMar 23 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it a part of the job requirement to become a politician; retain a constant flow of bullshit - accidentally tell the truth FAILED!Mar 23 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] MPs in bid to rename #BigBen tower for Queen's Jubilee http://goo.gl/Q6Ud8 yep, expensive rebranding, perfect use of money in tight timesMar 23 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Last time I posted publicly from Diaspora, Brdc...Mar 23 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is zuargo from identi.ca with 82 dents!Mar 23 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] How great is this? Third edition FOW out! - http://ur1.ca/8sa01Mar 23 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony colorfully reveals Android 4.0 schedule for tablets http://ur1.ca/8sa3e #android #linuxMar 23 20:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Drivers for new Radeon GPUs http://ur1.ca/8sa3w #driver #radeon #amd #intel #hibernate #ram #corruption #staccato #xserver #lioMar 23 20:13
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XFaCEschestowitz: The PPCA is increasing its Identi and Diaspora presenceMar 23 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Linux 3.4 will support GeForce GTX 680 and Southern Islands GPUs http://ur1.ca/8sa3zMar 23 20:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thank you! ♺ @schestowitz #Followfriday @glynmoody @laurelrusswurm @creativecommons @thistlewebMar 23 20:17
XFaCEschestowitz: Mar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:19] <CCitizen> One of the few things I'll give microsoft props for... letting the kinect be so hackable for all sorts of nifty things and not trying lock it down and prevent people from using itMar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:19] <wasme> CCitizen: Extra peripherals like that are only used by a minority of the population. Only by having as single-box unit can you guarantee availability for developers.Mar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:20] <wasme> HeheMar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:20] <XFaCE> CCitizen: It's a trapMar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:20] <wasme> you recall MS's first response to the Kinect hacks?Mar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:20] <XFaCE> CCitizen: It's attempt by MS to appear relevantMar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:20] <wasme> The first couple of days they were going to sue everyoneMar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:20] <XFaCE> CCitizen: Also, Kinect has it's own privacy problems anywayMar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:20] <wasme> Then they suddenly did a 180 and claimed it was 'designed for hacking from the very start.'Mar 23 20:23
XFaCE[16:21] <wasme> But Kinect is a cool piece of hardware/software.Mar 23 20:24
XFaCE[16:21] <CCitizen> Kinect is hardware though, so you cant pirate it :D which is why Microsoft doesnt care so much for people hacking it... they actually sell more of those that wayMar 23 20:24
XFaCE[16:21] <wasme> It's pretty much become the default way of adding 3d vision to robotics projects now. Because it's almost as good as 'professional' solutions and about 100x cheaper.Mar 23 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb MPs in bid to rename #BigBen tower for Queen's Jubilee http://goo.gl/Q6Ud8 yep, expensive rebranding, perfect use of mone ...Mar 23 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevingranade @thistleweb wow, one of the most globally recognized symbols of London, and they're going to rename it, brilliant.Mar 23 20:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @chalkahlom !tzafMar 23 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Glibc 2.15 released with optimisations and new locales http://ur1.ca/8saet #gnuMar 23 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Django 1.4 released http://ur1.ca/8saf7Mar 23 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientific Linux, the Great Distro With the Wrong Name http://ur1.ca/8sagc #redhat #gnu #linuxMar 23 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. British prisoners who are released on a temporary licence are forbidden to contact the media. #freespeech?Mar 23 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A first look at Ubuntu 12.04 (Gallery) http://ur1.ca/8sahl #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMar 23 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag/good evening @kevie @Larelrusswurm @Sandersch @Sazius @Schestowitz @Thistleweb @ZoowarMar 23 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wiosna idzie, koty na dżewach... bit.ly/GWxzYIMar 23 20:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Kickstarter won't let you do a Kickstarter to buy Kickstarter (Vice): http://bit.ly/GJhZA2 @motherboardMar 23 21:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CocosBuilder development tool open sourced http://ur1.ca/8saph #opensourceMar 23 21:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @lnxwalt Made me laugh at the conference or on the keyboard to find anything on your friends nowMar 23 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DRONE: an open source Bluetooth controller for smartphones and tablets http://ur1.ca/8sary #opensourceMar 23 21:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was shopping earlier today and passed a pub that was advertising on its blackboard Simon The psychic next monday night. I am thinking ..Mar 23 21:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. of going.Mar 23 21:15
prurigrohttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/isp-storing-25-petabytes-of-megaupload-data-costs-us-9000-a-day.arsMar 23 21:23
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92132686Mar 23 21:24
TechrightsBot-tr@James Bryce Clark (jamiexml)'s status on Friday, 23-Mar-12 21:14:38 UTC - Identi.ca: Ouch. Lawsuits underway. RT @schestowitz: Kazakh gold medallist is played Borat anthem in Kuwait: bbc.in/GJEIOK ..  #fbMar 23 21:24
schestowitzprurigro: costing?!Mar 23 21:24
schestowitzYes, providing a service "costs" themMar 23 21:24
prurigroyea, but they're not providing the service anymoreMar 23 21:25
schestowitzUtility company: providing electricity costs us a fortune!!!!!Mar 23 21:25
prurigrothe government has seized the assetsMar 23 21:25
schestowitz'asset'Mar 23 21:25
prurigroso now they're floating there in limbo while this company has to pay for themMar 23 21:25
prurigromegaupload no longer a customerMar 23 21:25
prurigrofreeing up the space to use for other purposes would interfere with the court case tooMar 23 21:26
prurigro"Megaupload is willing to take custody of the data, but the government and the MPAA have both objected, perhaps fearing that Megaupload would destroy evidence. The other parties—the government, EFF, and MPAA—have all said they're not willing to take custody of the servers."Mar 23 21:27
gde33wyfMar 23 21:27
gde33cant even type wtf anymrMar 23 21:27
prurigrohahaMar 23 21:28
prurigrowtf, I can't type wtf!Mar 23 21:28
gde33they stole our data!Mar 23 21:28
prurigroapparently its still aliveMar 23 21:28
gde33in a very omg kind of wayMar 23 21:28
prurigrolol toucheMar 23 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Revealed: what children are being told about abortion http://gu.com/p/36dfgMar 23 21:28
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schestowitzOhMyGroin!\Mar 23 21:29
prurigroI can't believe they'd dump the burden on this poor company instead of taking responsibility for something 'they' wantMar 23 21:29
gde33we should start raising donations to preserve the blob of data?Mar 23 21:29
schestowitzit's like dumping bombs on loasMar 23 21:29
schestowitzand then just pissing offMar 23 21:29
schestowitzletting them pick us the pieces.. and the bodypartsMar 23 21:29
MinceR222801 <+gde33> they stole our data!Mar 23 21:31
MinceRthey took our jerbs!Mar 23 21:31
gde33I'm strictly looking at this as an historic eventMar 23 21:31
gde33I'm calling it electronic book burning eventsMar 23 21:32
prurigroor book seizing?Mar 23 21:32
gde33it isn't about rights to download or rights to make a living.Mar 23 21:32
gde33it is only an event of deletionMar 23 21:32
gde33a self lobotomyMar 23 21:33
gde33like poking a stick up your noseMar 23 21:33
gde33the part I really don't understand is that it is all about distribution.Mar 23 21:35
gde33no other industry has distribution problemsMar 23 21:35
gde33they just make stuff and distribute itMar 23 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open source - customer choice http://ur1.ca/8sb0d #opensourceMar 23 21:35
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prurigrothey've seized a lot more than they owned tooMar 23 21:36
gde33imagine honda telling people how they should use their cars?Mar 23 21:36
gde33keeping a close eye on the userMar 23 21:36
gde33it gets more spooky the longer you look at itMar 23 21:37
gde33television is wrapped in with internet hereMar 23 21:37
prurigroor a good analogy would be taking youtube down because some of its videos are copywrittenMar 23 21:37
gde33so I don't own a TV but I do have to buy the de-luxe package.Mar 23 21:37
prurigrowait, no, that's the exact same thingMar 23 21:37
gde33this money eventually goes to the recording industry.Mar 23 21:38
gde33I get no product at all, I'm just paying them? LOLMar 23 21:38
prurigrolol, I wouldn't mind paying a small fee per month to download my TV shows-- I'm really not interested in purchasing a PVR, a TV and a cable box for what my computer can already do better thoughMar 23 21:39
prurigroI pay for netflix in canadaMar 23 21:39
XFaCEYet another sign that this MU tirade was an ill-conceived knee-jerk reactionMar 23 21:39
gde33If I don't get the TV package I can only get 50 MBit/s internet, if I get the TV then I may buy the 130 MBit/s connection.Mar 23 21:40
gde33I have to pay the recording jerks or they cut my internet speedMar 23 21:41
prurigrook, now that's ridiculousMar 23 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @insciusMar 23 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Wave Still Shutting Down April 30 http://ur1.ca/8sb57 #wave #opensourceMar 23 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] iRobot and Willow Garage Debate Closed vs. Open Source Robotics at Cocktail Party http://ur1.ca/8sb6l #opensourceMar 23 21:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Planned BitTorrent Pirate Punishments Spark Protest http://goo.gl/DQUMVMar 23 21:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1451239Mar 23 21:50
TechrightsBot-tr@silner@joindiaspora.com: Last time I posted publicly from Diaspora, Brdcst.it wasn't relaying properly to Identica. Specifically, it wasn't getting the truncation and link right. I meant to ask if this was general issue or just mine, but I guess I'll just test it for myself :)Mar 23 21:50
schestowitzin the past, posting using this service was possible. It broke after an identica/diaspora update on the face of it.Mar 23 21:51
schestowitz"New-fangled bossa nova." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1451149Mar 23 21:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Friday song: DANIELA MERCURY - SANTA HELENA (cd sol da liberdade)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJxjQ7xAP8c&feature=endscreen&NR=1Mar 23 21:51
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schestowitzindeedMar 23 21:51
XFaCEschestowitz: Too compressed :(Mar 23 21:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nonprofit open source organizations booming http://ur1.ca/8sb9mMar 23 21:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EUA: há cada vez mais patrões a pedir acesso às contas de #Facebook dos empregados http://goo.gl/eI8V6 como pedir acesso ao diário #privacyMar 23 21:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is BYOD the precursor to the open source desktop? http://ur1.ca/8sbc7 #opensourceMar 23 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 23/3/2012: Linux 3.4 Debates, Iceland’s Free Software Ambitions http://ur1.ca/8sbkd #techrightsMar 23 22:20
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schestowitz"and original games, not quake3 engine knockoffs."Mar 23 22:20
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1451120#Mar 23 22:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Plain and simple, Linux needs applications http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/261472/plain-and-simple-linux-needs-applications what it needs is more games probablyMar 23 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Pubs and clubs have been trying to blame supermarkets for late night drunks for years re preloading. Do they think they all get in that ..Mar 23 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. state just before they refuse to serve?Mar 23 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People behind Debian: Jörg Jaspert, FTPmaster, Debian Account Manager, and more http://ur1.ca/8sbpl #debian #gnu #linuxMar 23 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Medieval warming WAS global – new science contradicts #IPCC • The Register http://goo.gl/eZxqH #agwMar 23 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I can't bring myself to watch pramface it is like reliving a car crash.Mar 23 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Confirmed, Wasteland 2 Coming to Linux - Hits $1.5 Million Target http://ur1.ca/8sbqc #gamesMar 23 22:32
schestowitzIcelandic government prepares switch to open source http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Icelandic-government-prepares-switch-to-open-source-1478484.htmlMar 23 22:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux 1.4.0 has been released! | Screeshots tour http://ur1.ca/8sbv1 #gnu #linux #ubuntuMar 23 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 3.0.26 and 3.2.13 http://ur1.ca/8sbz4Mar 23 22:53
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schestowitzhi syn9Mar 23 23:01
syn9helloMar 23 23:01
syn9is this Dr. Roy Schestowitz?Mar 23 23:01
schestowitzI'm Roy, yesMar 23 23:01
syn9great!Mar 23 23:01
schestowitzwhat's up?Mar 23 23:02
syn9i wanted to thank you for listing my Linux game on your site a while backMar 23 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Britain budget. A minimum price / unit alcohol is only beneficial to the health of the poor. An across the board increase in duty would ..Mar 23 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] .. benefit the middle class & the rich as well.Mar 23 23:02
schestowitzmy pleasureMar 23 23:02
syn9it's called Rijn the Specpyre in Manor of the DamnedMar 23 23:02
schestowitzkeep up the good wordMar 23 23:02
schestowitzworkMar 23 23:02
syn9thanksMar 23 23:02
syn9I also wanted to inform you that the full version is now available for Linux and WindowsMar 23 23:02
schestowitzI try to promote the freedom cause, those who do development help me helpMar 23 23:02
schestowitzI too develop fossMar 23 23:02
schestowitzsyn9: any link?Mar 23 23:02
schestowitzMaybe news itemMar 23 23:02
syn9yeaMar 23 23:03
syn9http://www.thehideoutgames.comMar 23 23:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hideout .::. Size~: 5.55 KBMar 23 23:03
syn9is the primary websiteMar 23 23:03
schestowitzI can put it in the next bunch of nws linksMar 23 23:03
syn9awesome!Mar 23 23:03
schestowitz"NEW RIJN UPDATES AND RELEASES"Mar 23 23:03
schestowitzOK, doneMar 23 23:03
syn9if you would like a press copy to review please let me know.Mar 23 23:03
schestowitzI lack the time to gameMar 23 23:04
schestowitzI used to a lot, until I was about 20Mar 23 23:04
syn9:)Mar 23 23:04
schestowitzNow I let my sister play, on Linux MintMar 23 23:04
syn9me too, it's hard to get away from programming to actually playMar 23 23:04
schestowitzprogramming IS playMar 23 23:04
syn9exactlyMar 23 23:04
schestowitzbut.... not for everyone :-)Mar 23 23:04
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schestowitzright now I run on two 8-core servers a bunch of code I wroteMar 23 23:05
syn9very niceMar 23 23:05
syn9i'm doing all my game development off an hp netbookMar 23 23:05
schestowitzI wrote a game beforeMar 23 23:05
schestowitzhttp://othellomaster.comMar 23 23:05
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schestowitzGLUT/OpenGLMar 23 23:06
schestowitzwriting games is fun cause you get to test the AI by testing your programMar 23 23:06
schestowitzand see if you beat your codeMar 23 23:06
syn9sweetMar 23 23:06
syn9yeaMar 23 23:06
syn9i recently had a playtester send me a message 'hey, did you make the first boss harder?'Mar 23 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #FSFE Urges EU Parliament Staff to Reject Microsoft bribe http://is.gd/4rGymP #EUMar 23 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Minimum alcohol tax...I gave up home brewing 25 years ago. Although I do not intend to do it again lots will. Perhaps home distilling.Mar 23 23:07
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syn9i was happy he noticedMar 23 23:07
schestowitzHaha, brilliantMar 23 23:07
syn9this game looks pretty neatMar 23 23:07
schestowitz"Not hard for me, maybe for YOU"Mar 23 23:07
schestowitzsyn9: it was good for researching some stuffMar 23 23:08
schestowitzto play off against itself overnightMar 23 23:08
schestowitzand test against other game enginesMar 23 23:08
syn9i remember back in the 90s playing a game where you had to program insect bots and pit them against the computerMar 23 23:08
schestowitzthe reports are on the site tooMar 23 23:08
schestowitzIt was my first gameMar 23 23:08
syn9niceMar 23 23:08
schestowitzthese days it's crapMar 23 23:08
schestowitzmaking gamsMar 23 23:08
schestowitz1. take game engineMar 23 23:08
schestowitzpay "artists" to do polygon craftMar 23 23:09
schestowitz3. advertise, advertise, advertise, advertiseMar 23 23:09
schestowitz...Mar 23 23:09
schestowitz4. Profit!Mar 23 23:09
syn9hahMar 23 23:09
schestowitzI was addicted to Enemy Territory for a whileMar 23 23:09
syn9yea, i program my engines myself, make my own art assets, and a lot of times my own musicMar 23 23:09
schestowitzthen I got back to my thesis, games scare me since then, it's like a drugMar 23 23:09
syn9this time i brought someone in to help with the sound code and to write the story/dialogMar 23 23:10
syn9but from the ground up, it's all in house using cross platform librariesMar 23 23:10
schestowitzmy co-host and I do a show called techbytesMar 23 23:10
schestowitzit's an audiocastMar 23 23:10
schestowitzmaybe you'd like to come on the show some time?Mar 23 23:10
schestowitzwe have Richard Stallman coming, tooMar 23 23:10
syn9that would be really coolMar 23 23:10
MinceRniceMar 23 23:10
schestowitzI'll let him know, when we do record we often cover gamesMar 23 23:11
schestowitzTim, the other host, is a bit of a games buffMar 23 23:11
syn9great :)Mar 23 23:11
schestowitzwe'd l;ike to hear from someone who crafts gamesMar 23 23:11
syn9you can get ahold of me at syn9@thehideoutgames.comMar 23 23:11
schestowitzhow it's done, how to make it run on linux, unlike win32-only gamesMar 23 23:11
schestowitzI copies the email, thanksMar 23 23:11
schestowitz*copiedMar 23 23:12
syn9please give me a general idea of what you want to ask so i can make sure i have some good info preparedMar 23 23:13
syn9:)Mar 23 23:13
schestowitzI will, before the showMar 23 23:13
schestowitzneed to speak to Tim, we've not had much time to record recentlyMar 23 23:13
syn9also, i'm studying in holland right now, so there will probably be a bit of a time differenceMar 23 23:14
syn9where are you guys located?Mar 23 23:14
schestowitzhttp://bytesmedia.co.uk/Mar 23 23:14
schestowitzUKMar 23 23:14
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syn9oh, okMar 23 23:14
syn9thats good thenMar 23 23:14
schestowitzyeah, we record in eveningsMar 23 23:14
schestowitztim has a second baby now, so it's harder to get time to recordMar 23 23:14
syn9that's good. i'm usually out of class by 5:45 hereMar 23 23:14
schestowitzgood stuff, we'll be in touchMar 23 23:15
syn9great! nice talking to youMar 23 23:15
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schestowitzI've just mailed him a copy of the convoMar 23 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Roger Scruton... where almost celebrity meets almost academic.Mar 23 23:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1443499Mar 23 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf Identizens.Mar 23 23:45
formic_daemonfc - running fedora 17?Mar 23 23:46
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fewtschestowitz are you on reddit?Mar 23 23:58
fewthttp://www.reddit.com/user/r_schestowitzMar 23 23:58
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