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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] A new tool for state censorship: banking blockades http://t.co/rPdDdJxd #sopa #pipa #wikileaks | Mar 25 00:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: On financial blockades as a political tool for censorship | WL Central .::. Size~: 19.43 KB | Mar 25 00:02 |
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| scientes | haha MinceR | Mar 25 00:29 |
| scientes | schestowitz, which B does the B in your BLUG stand for? | Mar 25 00:30 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/03/24/kazakhstan-angry-spoof-anthem-played-at-event/ | Mar 25 00:55 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57403849/borat-anthem-at-sport-event-angers-kazakhstan/ | Mar 25 00:58 |
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| scientes | Is life? No, Demorez. | Mar 25 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GKzBycVqcU | Mar 25 02:12 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9sgDgjHHgM&feature=related | Mar 25 02:15 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Mark Lee Hunter: "Why all the #Assange bashing? It's no good for journalism" http://t.co/qsObpiWF | Mar 25 02:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why all the Assange bashing? It's no good for journalism | openDemocracy .::. Size~: 68.02 KB | Mar 25 02:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @drdynscript: @pietercolpaert Nice ... ben happy door de creativiteit van studenten en bijhorende te http://ur1. ... | Mar 25 02:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ Ik denk dat jens al wat aanpassingen deed. try again? | Mar 25 02:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: I just unlocked the "Newbie" badge on @foursquare! http://t.co/GzmRkvxZ | Mar 25 03:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ 't is dankzij de zalige http://t.co/Uv4jlCr9 app | Mar 25 03:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: First check-in thanks to #AppsForGhent and the new iRail app (@ The Glengarry) http://t.co/h063s4Cw | Mar 25 03:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] BBC: How WikiLeaks cables set off the Arab Spring https://t.co/s8yrUwEc | Mar 25 03:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning run for Congress | Counterpunch http://t.co/9nZDOhcR | Mar 25 03:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] How to survive interrogations: http://t.co/RPRlBXht http://t.co/d2uO5gtl | Mar 25 03:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I'm writing a reaction to Microsoft's link censorship | Mar 25 03:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 26 days, Julian Assange will have been detained for 500 days *without charge* http://t.co/RbXKA7Wm | Mar 25 03:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/microsoft-censors-windows-live-users-gives-free-speech-a-treatment-that-would-make-any-tyrant-dictator-proud/ | Mar 25 03:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft censors Windows Live users. Gives free speech a treatment that would make any tyrant dictator proud. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 65.57 KB | Mar 25 03:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] NOTE: April 20 will mark Julian #Assange's 500th day of detainment without charge. http://t.co/h3BcA4pC | Mar 25 03:40 | |
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| *XFaCE gives voice to amarsh04 DaemonFC gde33 kari | Mar 25 03:46 | |
| *XFaCE gives voice to msb__ schestowitz scientes | Mar 25 03:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Apparently Intel's drivers do so much of the MPEG decoding acceleration in software that Fedora has disabled it because it's legally unsafe to ship | Mar 25 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | It may happen for Radeon's UVD engine if AMD can ever get clearance from their legal department since the decoding is more or less all done by the hardware itself | Mar 25 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://torrentfreak.com/how-sopa-could-actually-benefit-file-sharers-120324/ | Mar 25 04:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How SOPA Could Actually Benefit File-Sharers | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 31.73 KB | Mar 25 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | "Scammers know how to route around censorship. | Mar 25 04:05 |
| DaemonFC | According to Leon, Google isn’t very helpful either. While the legit version of FrostWire is not allowed to advertise on Google’s Adwords, the scammers are slipping through by the dozens." | Mar 25 04:05 |
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| formic_ | Free Kevin! | Mar 25 04:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @magicfab: "We are not only making software, we are making statements" - Rubén Rodríguez at LibrePlanet 2012 #fsf #lp2012 | Mar 25 04:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @samadeu: Hackers brasileiros precisam de uma ajuda para construir uma empresa de impressoras 3D. Ajude aqui http://ur1.ca/8scqp | Mar 25 05:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: My Byron Sonne Articles ~ !FreeByron http://ur1.ca/8spx8 #links | Mar 25 05:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Online Learning Services Survey - please participate - http://ur1.ca/8sr1z #in #fb | Mar 25 05:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] really? isn't that just how RHEL uses the GNU OS: difft kernel? ♻ @mairin: @metztli if Dell is using Oracle, they're not using RHEL | Mar 25 07:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | oh this is nice | Mar 25 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | they broke GNOME Tweak Tool | Mar 25 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | and there's only 3 extensions marked compatible with GNOME Shell 3.3.92 | Mar 25 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | (and one of them manages to crash the shell) | Mar 25 07:55 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: who is this | Mar 25 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 17 | Mar 25 07:55 |
| oiaohm | Ok stick of explovice between legs distrobution. | Mar 25 07:55 |
| oiaohm | And hopeing to have privates after it. | Mar 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | and it doesn't let you install extensions meant for other versions of the Shell | Mar 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | great, so it turned into Firefox | Mar 25 07:57 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: modern firefox allows you to remove extensions ment for other versions. | Mar 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | unless it's a theme or the extension has binary components | Mar 25 07:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: to be correct you can still remove those. | Mar 25 08:00 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: ok you might have to run it in safe mode | Mar 25 08:00 |
| oiaohm | So it does not crash. | Mar 25 08:00 |
| oiaohm | But firefox does have a path todo it. | Mar 25 08:01 |
| oiaohm | Gnome has managed out do Firefox hell. | Mar 25 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | I do like what they've done with Empathy | Mar 25 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | they finally updated the ad blocker to use adblock plus lists | Mar 25 08:02 |
| formic_ | empathy is unusable | Mar 25 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | errr Epiphany I meant | Mar 25 08:08 |
| DaemonFC | their web browser | Mar 25 08:08 |
| formic_ | oh the browser | Mar 25 08:08 |
| formic_ | thats not too bad | Mar 25 08:08 |
| formic_ | it needs proxy config | Mar 25 08:08 |
| formic_ | using gnome global config is problematic | Mar 25 08:09 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, some things have improved since last time | Mar 25 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | the shell extensions are still very irritating | Mar 25 08:11 |
| formic_ | the extension site is very irritating | Mar 25 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Mar 25 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | you have to use a Firefox plug-in for it | Mar 25 08:11 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 25 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | their own web browser doesn't work with it | Mar 25 08:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's embarrassing | Mar 25 08:11 |
| formic_ | when stardock makes a better site, you should just give up | Mar 25 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just in a Live CD though | Mar 25 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure as hell not going to install this | Mar 25 08:12 |
| formic_ | use the kde spin | Mar 25 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | I do | Mar 25 08:12 |
| formic_ | good stuff | Mar 25 08:13 |
| formic_ | gnome is just broken now | Mar 25 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | parts of it are | Mar 25 08:13 |
| formic_ | sadly unity is better but omg i hate compiz | Mar 25 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | unfortunately those are the parts that let you configure it | Mar 25 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | so.....bleh | Mar 25 08:13 |
| formic_ | ubuntu isnt really good to use either | Mar 25 08:14 |
| formic_ | its a slow debian with poor package management | Mar 25 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu seems to be OK still, mostly | Mar 25 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | most of the Canonical mess is contained in GTK stuff | Mar 25 08:15 |
| formic_ | its still slow | Mar 25 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | I'm buying a new hard disk next month | Mar 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get paid until next week | Mar 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm afraid this hard disk is on the way out | Mar 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | I lost another sector earlier | Mar 25 08:17 |
| formic_ | it could just be xfs related | Mar 25 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | so I hope the thing LASTS another week | Mar 25 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | doubt it | Mar 25 08:17 |
| formic_ | got kernel 3.3? | Mar 25 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 25 08:18 |
| formic_ | you're probably safe from that bug that causes bad sectors | Mar 25 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | I doubt it affects Linux 3.2 at this point | Mar 25 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | that's a longterm kernel and it's already had 13 point releases | Mar 25 08:19 |
| formic_ | the distros probably patched it in too | Mar 25 08:20 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Once SMART decides a sector is bad is there any way to force it to try to use those again? | Mar 25 08:20 |
| formic_ | the funniest thing i've seen so far on youtube are people who record hacking vids and use paint or something as a whiteboard | Mar 25 08:21 |
| formic_ | on windows | Mar 25 08:21 |
| formic_ | or notepad | Mar 25 08:22 |
| DaemonFC | I hate this SMART thing already | Mar 25 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | the more I read about it | Mar 25 08:24 |
| DaemonFC | I hate things that just decide to do something and don't let you attempt to override it | Mar 25 08:24 |
| formic_ | ... | Mar 25 08:24 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 25 08:24 |
| formic_ | 'i hate bed sector detection, i want my os to just crash' | Mar 25 08:25 |
| formic_ | 'why can't i live in the 1980s' | Mar 25 08:25 |
| formic_ | 'good old safe mode scan disk' | Mar 25 08:25 |
| DaemonFC | going behind the user's back and deciding to cover up a failing drive is not cool | Mar 25 08:26 |
| formic_ | learn to read dmesg | Mar 25 08:26 |
| DaemonFC | deciding that a failed read automatically means a bad sector isn't cool | Mar 25 08:26 |
| formic_ | zero level the drive | Mar 25 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | according to Seagate that won't reopen sectors that have already been reallocated | Mar 25 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | and nothing the user can do will bring those back | Mar 25 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | I assume they could since they made the drive and the firmware, but they won't release end user software that can | Mar 25 08:28 |
| formic_ | there are smart utilities | Mar 25 08:28 |
| formic_ | they just don't really exist on linux | Mar 25 08:28 |
| formic_ | software just needs to be written to warn a linux user of smart failure | Mar 25 08:29 |
| formic_ | solaris is aware | Mar 25 08:30 |
| oiaohm | formic_: lie | Mar 25 08:32 |
| oiaohm | smartctl | Mar 25 08:32 |
| formic_ | lol daemonfc sometimes I just think you look for things to rant about | Mar 25 08:32 |
| formic_ | 'i paid $99 for this drive and the firmware is hiding 3 sectors from me!! i want my fraction of a cent back' | Mar 25 08:32 |
| oiaohm | formic_: smartctl is on Linux | Mar 25 08:32 |
| formic_ | oiaohm - teach daemonfc :) | Mar 25 08:33 |
| oiaohm | http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki | Mar 25 08:33 |
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| oiaohm | formic_: Linux and solaris from memory use the same software for smart monitoring. | Mar 25 08:34 |
| formic_ | oiaohm - zfs uses smart internally | Mar 25 08:34 |
| oiaohm | formic_: so do Linux software raids. | Mar 25 08:35 |
| oiaohm | formic_: Its not anything special. | Mar 25 08:35 |
| formic_ | im not familiar with linux software raids | Mar 25 08:35 |
| oiaohm | zfs is uses it because is a raid like solution. | Mar 25 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | I just went ahead and ordered that 2 TB Barracuda Green hard disk | Mar 25 08:36 |
| formic_ | lol 'green' | Mar 25 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | most of the benchmarks on it are faster than the drive I have now | Mar 25 08:37 |
| formic_ | older version of their latest rebranded | Mar 25 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | technology improves pretty fast | Mar 25 08:37 |
| formic_ | yeah but theres nothing green about it | Mar 25 08:37 |
| formic_ | its just slower than one of their newer drives | Mar 25 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | right, I compared how many watts it claimed to use at idle and under load | Mar 25 08:37 |
| formic_ | makes the same toxic waste | Mar 25 08:37 |
| DaemonFC | and in each case it was only like 2-3 less than the one I have now claims in its specs | Mar 25 08:38 |
| formic_ | less power because the newer ones use more power but operate faster | Mar 25 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | so it's not going to save you much of anything on the electric bill :) | Mar 25 08:38 |
| formic_ | its standard stuff | Mar 25 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | the noise level rating is lower than the one I have now | Mar 25 08:38 |
| DaemonFC | but only slightly | Mar 25 08:38 |
| formic_ | the first series of green drives were just 5400 rpm drives | Mar 25 08:38 |
| formic_ | stuff they had laying around for years | Mar 25 08:39 |
| formic_ | 'it uses less power, we can lie and say its green' | Mar 25 08:39 |
| formic_ | 'it applies in california, we'll just base our studies there' | Mar 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | I looked up some benchmarks, they had the drive model I am using now vs the Barracuda Green model I just bought | Mar 25 08:39 |
| DaemonFC | the Green drive was actually faster in most cases except access times | Mar 25 08:39 |
| formic_ | access times are actually what matters | Mar 25 08:40 |
| oiaohm | formic_: the new green drives get interesting. | Mar 25 08:40 |
| oiaohm | formic_: because the access times are not that bad. | Mar 25 08:40 |
| formic_ | unless all your data is sequential | Mar 25 08:40 |
| oiaohm | formic_: reason is higher density. | Mar 25 08:40 |
| formic_ | more capacity = higher density | Mar 25 08:40 |
| DaemonFC | apparently what really kills performance on these "Advanced Format" drives is when people try to use them under Windows XP | Mar 25 08:41 |
| formic_ | same size platter internally | Mar 25 08:41 |
| formic_ | sometimes there are several platters | Mar 25 08:41 |
| oiaohm | Exactly same size patter. | Mar 25 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | and the drive has to emulate the old sector size because XP isn't aware thigns have changed | Mar 25 08:41 |
| oiaohm | So same movement reads more data. formic_ | Mar 25 08:41 |
| oiaohm | formic_: so we have a nice odd case at the moment. | Mar 25 08:41 |
| formic_ | yeah thats standard textbook hard drive stuff | Mar 25 08:41 |
| formic_ | green drives are just older models | Mar 25 08:42 |
| oiaohm | Not in this case. | Mar 25 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | meh, in most cases it's still an upgrade from this one | Mar 25 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | it has more than double the space | Mar 25 08:42 |
| oiaohm | Some of the new seagate green are not old models. | Mar 25 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | this one is a 1 TB but it uses the old sector size | Mar 25 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | so less of it is actually available | Mar 25 08:42 |
| formic_ | they eventually ran out at some point then | Mar 25 08:42 |
| oiaohm | They are new models cannot go faster because the controller cannot cope yet. | Mar 25 08:42 |
| formic_ | still | Mar 25 08:42 |
| formic_ | green drives aren't as powerful as the regular drives | Mar 25 08:43 |
| oiaohm | There are issues with increasing denisty. | Mar 25 08:43 |
| oiaohm | that increase data coming off drive | Mar 25 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | XFS is an incredibly efficient file system | Mar 25 08:43 |
| oiaohm | So increasing what the controller board has to process. | Mar 25 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that Ext4 has a lot of overhead above what the files it stores take up | Mar 25 08:43 |
| oiaohm | Yes there are a evil set of maths formic_ | Mar 25 08:43 |
| oiaohm | So the 5900 speed seagates are not old models but new models | Mar 25 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | like, you'll put 800 MB of files in a directory and under Ext4 they're eating up more like 1,000 | Mar 25 08:44 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, What's the deal with that? | Mar 25 08:44 |
| oiaohm | That are going to be beating when seagate get the controller board sorted out. | Mar 25 08:44 |
| oiaohm | seagate is trying to get to 60 TB per drive in a few years. | Mar 25 08:44 |
| formic_ | [03:43] <DaemonFC> like, you'll put 800 MB of files in a directory and under Ext4 they're eating up more like 1,000 | Mar 25 08:45 |
| formic_ | wth?? | Mar 25 08:45 |
| oiaohm | So they are really pushing the denisty. | Mar 25 08:45 |
| oiaohm | When you start really pushing the densisty spining fast becomes a issue. | Mar 25 08:45 |
| formic_ | I'm wondering when they hit a roadblock | Mar 25 08:45 |
| formic_ | SSDs are getting better too | Mar 25 08:46 |
| oiaohm | Max limit is most likely around 200 TB a 3 1/2 inch drive. | Mar 25 08:46 |
| oiaohm | A plater. | Mar 25 08:46 |
| oiaohm | You can fit up to 5 plater. | Mar 25 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | formic_, According to my file manager, files take up about 20% more space than the size of the files if I use Ext4 | Mar 25 08:47 |
| oiaohm | At that point you have to use laser to heat surface. | Mar 25 08:47 |
| DaemonFC | is that a bug or is it really using more space than it should? | Mar 25 08:47 |
| oiaohm | So you can change only a small it. | Mar 25 08:47 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - its probably using more space than it should, i forgot about that | Mar 25 08:47 |
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| formic_ | all my files are on a zfs box | Mar 25 08:47 |
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| DaemonFC | I noticed that with XFS, the reported space of the files in the directory matches up with the combined size of the files in the directory | Mar 25 08:48 |
| oiaohm | xfs is more truefull on space usage. | Mar 25 08:48 |
| DaemonFC | and with Ext4, the total size of the directory is always much larger | Mar 25 08:48 |
| oiaohm | xfs reports the storage meta data in the total used. | Mar 25 08:49 |
| oiaohm | per file. | Mar 25 08:49 |
| oiaohm | Ext4 only reports that on the full directory. | Mar 25 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, So it's a reporting difference and not Ext4 actually wasting hard drive space? | Mar 25 08:49 |
| oiaohm | reporting difference and a small ammount of waste due to Ext4 structs not being as effective as xfs | Mar 25 08:49 |
| oiaohm | xfs can stack small files to reduce on disk usage. | Mar 25 08:50 |
| oiaohm | formic_: SSD do have a downside. As densities go up harddrive are using harder and harder to write material. | Mar 25 08:52 |
| oiaohm | formic_: platers have advantages has densiteies go up. | Mar 25 08:53 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to shave off the price of shipping by using Amazon | Mar 25 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | that saved me $10 | Mar 25 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | Newegg's free shipping isn't as generous as it once was | Mar 25 08:57 |
| DaemonFC | you have to buy expensive shit for Newegg to offer "egg saver" | Mar 25 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | or just catch the right item at exactly the right time | Mar 25 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon still does it on most things that total more than $25 | Mar 25 08:58 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I have some backing up to do in the mean time | Mar 25 09:02 |
| DaemonFC | oh great | Mar 25 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | JUST GREAT | Mar 25 09:16 |
| DaemonFC | someone at GNOME decides that a megabyte is 1000 KB | Mar 25 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | when it's pretty much generally agreed to be 1024 (except by hard drive makers so they can advertise higher capacities) | Mar 25 09:17 |
| DaemonFC | so a 695 MB (1024 KB) ISO that would fit comfortably onto a CD? | Mar 25 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | Nautilus says it's 729.1 MB (1000 KB) | Mar 25 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | what fucking idiot decided to do this? | Mar 25 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | and when? | Mar 25 09:18 |
| DaemonFC | these people are a sick joke | Mar 25 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | sick fucking joke | Mar 25 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | I can't stand any more of this, I've had my dose for the time being | Mar 25 09:25 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Mar 25 09:26 |
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| scientes | <oiaohm> xfs can stack small files to reduce on disk usage. | Mar 25 09:27 |
| scientes | what do you mean? | Mar 25 09:27 |
| scientes | ahhh, you mean packing together | Mar 25 09:27 |
| scientes | like how btrfs puts it with the metadata | Mar 25 09:28 |
| scientes | so block sizes are not so strict | Mar 25 09:28 |
| scientes | and re:compression | Mar 25 09:28 |
| scientes | while hard drivers its all about seek speeds, so compression isn't that big of a deal, esp as space is so cheap | Mar 25 09:29 |
| scientes | on SSD's i think compression is a big deal | Mar 25 09:29 |
| scientes | esp as lzo now exists, which is very minimal cpu pressure | Mar 25 09:29 |
| scientes | the only think i am now thinking, is that there really should be a way of telling the filesystem that the data you are writing is already compressed so it wont try to compress it twice | Mar 25 09:30 |
| scientes | i was brainstorming and why couldn't you use the existing binfmtmisc code/registration fuctionality to have ability to do this automatically---detecting xz/gzip, etc headers, and file extentions | Mar 25 09:31 |
| formic_ | anyone do tape backup? | Mar 25 09:32 |
| scientes | but im not sure if that overhead on every write would be worth | Mar 25 09:32 |
| scientes | it | Mar 25 09:32 |
| scientes | exec calls, on the other hand, are expected to be kinda slow | Mar 25 09:32 |
| scientes | *every write to a new file | Mar 25 09:32 |
| scientes | *or truncate and rewrite | Mar 25 09:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DickCheney undergoes heart transplant http://gu.com/p/36dmf wow, he has one? #shockaroonie | Mar 25 09:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Iraqi woman beaten in her California home dies http://goo.gl/TNS3m | Mar 25 09:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Tory Peter Cruddas quits after donor access claims http://goo.gl/ClhvS another example of why politicians are a failed creed | Mar 25 09:48 | |
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| oiaohm | formic_: if you call a tape a raw harddrive that are hot swapable | Mar 25 10:09 |
| oiaohm | formic_: some of the software used for it is the same as what use to drive tape backups. | Mar 25 10:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Greek un-currency seems to work fine: bit.ly/H0afKD A similar idea came up at #28C3: bit.ly/H0artg | Mar 25 10:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] So .. watching this youtube tutorials on etching my own PCBs & they keep talking of "muriatic" acid, I look it up ... | Mar 25 10:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] .... and "muriatic" acid is hydrochloric acid (O_o). Y_U_NO call it by it's proper name? /cc @fredmanglis @kelzOKO @nj3ma | Mar 25 10:17 | |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm: Turns out you can mount with inode64 after creating the file system without that option | Mar 25 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | and you can even remove that mount option later on | Mar 25 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | the problem is that kernels before 2.6.35 don't have defined behavior for what to do with inodes beyond the first TB of the partition and if they find some there, it can lead to problems | Mar 25 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | but recent kernels can deal with it | Mar 25 10:22 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: from a data recovery point of view presume worse. | Mar 25 10:27 |
| oiaohm | That is why I would either doing inode64 mount and make or not. | Mar 25 10:27 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the old better safe than sorry. | Mar 25 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | you wouldn't get the out of space issues if you had a 2 TB partition and 32-bit inodes | Mar 25 10:28 |
| DaemonFC | but it wouldn't be placing inodes efficiently | Mar 25 10:29 |
| DaemonFC | and performance would suffer | Mar 25 10:29 |
| oiaohm | there is a reason for 32 bit inodes | Mar 25 10:30 |
| oiaohm | if you are planning to use the drive with like a 32 bit arm processor. | Mar 25 10:30 |
| oiaohm | 64 bit file system on a 32 bit processor don't perform that good. | Mar 25 10:31 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 25 10:46 |
| scientes | oiaohm, good point | Mar 25 11:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ISO Helps Patent Cartels, Monopolies; Mozilla Surrenders, Fedora Will Not http://ur1.ca/8su9z #iso #mpegla #swpats | Mar 25 11:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "There's no prospect of donors influencing government policy" #DannyAlexander should try a stint in comedy http://goo.gl/dnmK3 | Mar 25 11:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] corporations & special interests don't "give" money; they invest it, and expect a return on it in the way of influence, laws, regulation etc | Mar 25 11:40 | |
| DaemonFC | https://launchpad.net/unity/5.0/5.8.0 | Mar 25 11:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 5.8.0 : Series 5.0 : unity .::. Size~: 111.83 KB | Mar 25 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Unity 5.8 is out | Mar 25 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | says it fixed 76 bugs | Mar 25 11:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol on the #Cruddas resignation speech - basically amounts to "I was trying to sell you something I can't deliver" #fraud #reputationPR | Mar 25 11:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] either you can deliver what you offered to charge for = #corruption, or you can't = #fraud; regret over being caught doing what scum do | Mar 25 11:43 | |
| DaemonFC | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/824099 | Mar 25 11:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug #824099 “Max GL texture size can break multi-head” : Bugs : “compiz” package : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 166.62 KB | Mar 25 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | and a really nasty WONTFIX that will affect people with a couple of really high resolution monitors in a dual head configuration | Mar 25 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | and cause them to have to set one below its native resolution to make Unity not crash | Mar 25 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 25 11:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] and they wonder why public perception of the political classes is all about self serving scumbags lining up to sell them out for profit | Mar 25 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AJEnglish: On #AJListeningPost: What is #Obama's role in the continued imprisonment of #Yemeni journalist #Shaye? | http://t.co/1SFWrE6R | Mar 25 11:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: "'Green Button' #OpenData Just Created an App Market for 27M US Homes" http://t.co/GJX9Fvdt #smartgrid #ope http://p.ost.im/p/e4PqpH | Mar 25 12:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Calls, Hopes to End Software Patents in the United States http://ur1.ca/8sumb #us #swpats | Mar 25 12:20 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that nasty wontfix needs the death of X11 | Mar 25 12:56 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Mozilla has not exactly surrended over H264. They have created a interesting black hole. Its legal to use it with web browser. So to support Mozilla it must be system wide. | Mar 25 12:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: can Mozilla force H264 to be licensed for playback for anything. | Mar 25 12:57 |
| cubezzz | X11 will never die :) | Mar 25 13:00 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: It will die | Mar 25 13:01 |
| cubezzz | no, it won't since people can download the source code | Mar 25 13:02 |
| oiaohm | The process of the death of X11 has started. | Mar 25 13:02 |
| oiaohm | To be correct death of the X11 Server | Mar 25 13:02 |
| oiaohm | There might remain a X11 client side. | Mar 25 13:02 |
| oiaohm | For crap. | Mar 25 13:02 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: code dies by bit rotting. | Mar 25 13:03 |
| oiaohm | One day X11 stuff will no longer maintained and only become more and more bricked. | Mar 25 13:03 |
| cubezzz | not sure what you mean by bricked | Mar 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Attempt to build and monderday compliers will not longer build it because its too defective. | Mar 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | Bricked. | Mar 25 13:04 |
| oiaohm | The effort to bring a dead code base gets hard and harder until is not worth it. | Mar 25 13:05 |
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| cubezzz | that's not really true, I'm surprised to hear you say that | Mar 25 13:06 |
| cubezzz | I still write CP/M and MSDOS code | Mar 25 13:06 |
| cubezzz | it's not getting any "harder" to write | Mar 25 13:06 |
| cubezzz | if I write old code I use an old compiler | Mar 25 13:07 |
| cubezzz | if I feel like writing X11 code I can do the same thing | Mar 25 13:07 |
| oiaohm | Old complier also locks you out of some of the newer cpus as well. | Mar 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Yes you do end up in a case sooner or latter bricked. | Mar 25 13:08 |
| cubezzz | hardly :) | Mar 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | But we are talking at 30 to 40 year process cubezzz | Mar 25 13:08 |
| cubezzz | I could write PDP-11 code if I wanted to | Mar 25 13:08 |
| oiaohm | What would run it. | Mar 25 13:09 |
| cubezzz | if you said 60's computers were dead, then yes | Mar 25 13:09 |
| cubezzz | but not 70's to now | Mar 25 13:09 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, emulator, simh | Mar 25 13:09 |
| cubezzz | 60's computer would be very very hard | Mar 25 13:09 |
| cubezzz | still might be possible in some cases though | Mar 25 13:09 |
| oiaohm | hard and harder until its not worth it. | Mar 25 13:10 |
| cubezzz | it's not any harder :) | Mar 25 13:10 |
| cubezzz | I have an emulator written in portable code | Mar 25 13:10 |
| oiaohm | So you have to use a emulator so the program normally is slower than modern. | Mar 25 13:10 |
| oiaohm | You have to convice users to install the emulator. | Mar 25 13:10 |
| cubezzz | it's fast enough for what I need | Mar 25 13:10 |
| oiaohm | So at some point it becomes a not worth it solution. | Mar 25 13:10 |
| oiaohm | Only for history buffs. | Mar 25 13:11 |
| oiaohm | Also using old compliers means the code does not get checked against some of the newer methods for finding coding errors either. | Mar 25 13:11 |
| cubezzz | you're assuming everyone is in an endless upgrade cycle | Mar 25 13:11 |
| cubezzz | that's not really the case... people can choose not to upgrade | Mar 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Everyone is | Mar 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Nature will destory your hardware sooner or latter. | Mar 25 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Just some people decide upgrade before nature takes it course. | Mar 25 13:13 |
| cubezzz | no, it's gratituous | Mar 25 13:13 |
| cubezzz | they upgrade because they are manipulated into it most of the time | Mar 25 13:13 |
| cubezzz | for $$$ | Mar 25 13:13 |
| oiaohm | I run hardware to destruction. | Mar 25 13:14 |
| cubezzz | good, you agree with me then :) | Mar 25 13:14 |
| oiaohm | Ie until it fails. | Mar 25 13:14 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, yes but you can fix your stuff too | Mar 25 13:14 |
| oiaohm | Lot of cases no. | Mar 25 13:14 |
| oiaohm | Its silcon death. | Mar 25 13:14 |
| cubezzz | there's enough parts around to upgrade a c64 or a PC indefinitely | Mar 25 13:14 |
| oiaohm | And the particular chip is no longer made. | Mar 25 13:14 |
| cubezzz | for common stuff you can | Mar 25 13:15 |
| oiaohm | c64 is a rare one. | Mar 25 13:15 |
| oiaohm | Where there is a new implementation. | Mar 25 13:15 |
| oiaohm | PC not so much. | Mar 25 13:15 |
| cubezzz | there must be millions of old P3's out there | Mar 25 13:15 |
| oiaohm | Not as many as you think. | Mar 25 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Over 65 percent of p3 produced will be dead by now. | Mar 25 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Due to the natural effects on the silcon chip. | Mar 25 13:16 |
| oiaohm | At some point there will be no operational p3 left. | Mar 25 13:17 |
| cubezzz | I still use some msdos software almost every day | Mar 25 13:17 |
| cubezzz | so now it's dosbox or freedos instead of straight msdos | Mar 25 13:18 |
| oiaohm | That is not most people cubezzz | Mar 25 13:18 |
| cubezzz | that's true | Mar 25 13:18 |
| oiaohm | You fall into a history buff. | Mar 25 13:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Brazilian Schoolchildren Tagged By Computer Chips - Slashdot http://goo.gl/TXK7o #brazil #bigbrother | Mar 25 13:18 | |
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| oiaohm | So history buff will always have some odd ball things for fun. | Mar 25 13:19 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: death is a reality of life. | Mar 25 13:19 |
| cubezzz | my printouts will last for centuries :) | Mar 25 13:19 |
| oiaohm | http://www.syntiac.com/fpga64.html | Mar 25 13:20 |
| cubezzz | I'll keep writing X programs and learn the new stuff when it comes along | Mar 25 13:20 |
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| oiaohm | This is where c64 is the exception to the rule. | Mar 25 13:21 |
| oiaohm | It was that popular that people went to the effort to remake it. | Mar 25 13:21 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, it's hardly the only example of FPGA's used to remake an old computer | Mar 25 13:21 |
| cubezzz | C-one... Chameleon... | Mar 25 13:21 |
| cubezzz | probably about a dozen other ones | Mar 25 13:21 |
| oiaohm | That is the C-one | Mar 25 13:21 |
| cubezzz | oh :) | Mar 25 13:21 |
| cubezzz | looks pretty compatible | Mar 25 13:22 |
| oiaohm | Yes that guy is also the developer of the Chameleon | Mar 25 13:22 |
| oiaohm | But this is still a history buff thing. | Mar 25 13:23 |
| cubezzz | working program is working program | Mar 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | why remake is that all the old c64 are dieing. | Mar 25 13:23 |
| cubezzz | I can port stuff | Mar 25 13:23 |
| oiaohm | So in a few years there will be no old c64 to show kids where it started. | Mar 25 13:24 |
| cubezzz | I still have a working vic-20, even older than the c64 | Mar 25 13:24 |
| oiaohm | Take care of them | Mar 25 13:24 |
| oiaohm | Because they are slowly coming rare. | Mar 25 13:24 |
| cubezzz | ah, I don't think so oiaohm... a few years? They will last probably around 40 years more | Mar 25 13:24 |
| cubezzz | FPGA's will ensure c64's immorality | Mar 25 13:24 |
| oiaohm | You will most likely lose the audio chip. | Mar 25 13:25 |
| oiaohm | In the c64 | Mar 25 13:25 |
| cubezzz | er, immortality :) | Mar 25 13:25 |
| cubezzz | I don't own any c64's just a vic-20 and an amiga 500 | Mar 25 13:25 |
| cubezzz | both still work fine | Mar 25 13:25 |
| oiaohm | The old c64 are losing there audio chips first due to silcon design. | Mar 25 13:26 |
| cubezzz | I'll admit writing Unix version 7 code is a pain | Mar 25 13:26 |
| oiaohm | There is a weakness in the vic-20 and amiga 500 as well. | Mar 25 13:26 |
| cubezzz | what is that? | Mar 25 13:26 |
| cubezzz | I haven't had any problems yet | Mar 25 13:26 |
| oiaohm | those still have about another 5 to 15 years to turn up. | Mar 25 13:27 |
| cubezzz | I have a supply of spare parts already | Mar 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | As problems. | Mar 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | This is like rot. | Mar 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | It just effects parts not in use slower. | Mar 25 13:27 |
| oiaohm | The silcon doping that makes silcon works goes against nature. | Mar 25 13:28 |
| cubezzz | I'll archive the old code and port it to newer systems | Mar 25 13:29 |
| oiaohm | Maintained code can stay alive. | Mar 25 13:29 |
| cubezzz | sure, I'll maintain it :) | Mar 25 13:29 |
| oiaohm | That is the problem not everything will be mainatained. | Mar 25 13:29 |
| cubezzz | anyone can download it for free too | Mar 25 13:29 |
| oiaohm | And at end of your maintaining someone might not take it up. | Mar 25 13:30 |
| cubezzz | I preserve other people's code too | Mar 25 13:30 |
| oiaohm | I think in really long time frames cubezzz | Mar 25 13:30 |
| cubezzz | we don't really know exactly how long a computer can last | Mar 25 13:30 |
| oiaohm | Some we do | Mar 25 13:30 |
| cubezzz | beyond the fact that the old computers sucked so much power no one wanted to keep them working | Mar 25 13:30 |
| oiaohm | There is one old computer here in australia that one sucks too much power two we suspect if it was powered it would expode. | Mar 25 13:31 |
| cubezzz | well, there's still some Commodore PETs that work and they tell me the cassette tapes are still readable | Mar 25 13:31 |
| oiaohm | Since sections of it most likely are TNT. | Mar 25 13:32 |
| oiaohm | due to natural break down. | Mar 25 13:32 |
| cubezzz | so microprocessor era I'm not seeing and end of Commodore PET | Mar 25 13:32 |
| cubezzz | that's 1977 era | Mar 25 13:32 |
| oiaohm | Yes the old cisro computer in Australia | Mar 25 13:32 |
| oiaohm | Is now a basically a historic bomb. | Mar 25 13:32 |
| cubezzz | well 60's era and before is pretty much gone, I agree | Mar 25 13:33 |
| cubezzz | but 1975 to present is still going | Mar 25 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Its a 60's era computer that is too scary to turn on. | Mar 25 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Due to natural effects on material. | Mar 25 13:34 |
| oiaohm | So even if you could get approve to send a subbers worth of power into it. | Mar 25 13:34 |
| oiaohm | You might not be alive after the fact. | Mar 25 13:34 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, there are 60's computer emulators | Mar 25 13:34 |
| oiaohm | Yep | Mar 25 13:35 |
| cubezzz | I mean, I have tons of emulators now | Mar 25 13:35 |
| oiaohm | Because some of them are like the cisro old computer. | Mar 25 13:35 |
| oiaohm | Too much power and might make a large hole. | Mar 25 13:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sete crias de lince-ibérico nasceram em Silves - Ciência - DN http://goo.gl/XBdHe cool! #pt #nature | Mar 25 13:35 | |
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| oiaohm | Stuff past the 60~ will mostly just fail. | Mar 25 13:35 |
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| oiaohm | Due to silcon decay. | Mar 25 13:36 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: there will come a point. | Mar 25 13:36 |
| cubezzz | I even made a video of Unix version 7: | Mar 25 13:37 |
| cubezzz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vERIL4JpFPU | Mar 25 13:37 |
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| cubezzz | made the video in 2011 :) | Mar 25 13:38 |
| oiaohm | secuirty means you cannot use Unix version 7 any more. | Mar 25 13:38 |
| oiaohm | For productive usage. | Mar 25 13:38 |
| cubezzz | it is significant... the last common ancestor of all Unixes | Mar 25 13:39 |
| oiaohm | Secuity also places a require to move on to the new software and complier. | Mar 25 13:39 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, what, some black hat is going to hack my emulated PDP-11? :) | Mar 25 13:39 |
| oiaohm | I should be more correct there is a point that something is dead for production usage. | Mar 25 13:39 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: with some of the auto tools they use they would without thinking. | Mar 25 13:40 |
| oiaohm | And they would be like wtf | Mar 25 13:40 |
| cubezzz | but Unix version 7 has no tcp/ip :) | Mar 25 13:40 |
| cubezzz | I think that would stop them :) | Mar 25 13:40 |
| oiaohm | From memory that still has a network protocol. | Mar 25 13:40 |
| oiaohm | Just pre tcp/ip | Mar 25 13:41 |
| cubezzz | uucp and cu only | Mar 25 13:41 |
| cubezzz | not even ftp | Mar 25 13:41 |
| cubezzz | I'm not sure there's anything to connect to with uucp | Mar 25 13:41 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the attack tools will still look for uucp | Mar 25 13:41 |
| oiaohm | Its any hole they want. | Mar 25 13:42 |
| cubezzz | ok, I think you're giving the bad guys too much credit | Mar 25 13:42 |
| oiaohm | Yes unfontunatly attackers are just as much history buffs as ye. | Mar 25 13:42 |
| oiaohm | This stuff is coded into the autotools. | Mar 25 13:42 |
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| oiaohm | Ie the stuff script kiddies use. | Mar 25 13:42 |
| cubezzz | even so, I can run the emulator on a machine not even connected to the net | Mar 25 13:42 |
| oiaohm | True | Mar 25 13:43 |
| oiaohm | But the functionalty you can do become limited. | Mar 25 13:43 |
| oiaohm | Yes the effect of secuirty issues. | Mar 25 13:43 |
| cubezzz | there are academic reasons to study Unix v7 | Mar 25 13:44 |
| cubezzz | plus it's simpler and easier to learn that than a modern Linux | Mar 25 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Study history of course. | Mar 25 13:45 |
| cubezzz | sure | Mar 25 13:45 |
| oiaohm | but its not something for production work. | Mar 25 13:45 |
| oiaohm | Ie stuff to make money. | Mar 25 13:45 |
| cubezzz | well the C-one guy made some money :) | Mar 25 13:46 |
| cubezzz | that's production | Mar 25 13:46 |
| oiaohm | That is a rarity. | Mar 25 13:46 |
| cubezzz | C-one is not cheap either | Mar 25 13:46 |
| oiaohm | There are out edges to everything. | Mar 25 13:46 |
| oiaohm | A lot of C64 programs people still love. | Mar 25 13:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Labour making a great deal of #Tory access; who are they foolin'? They're just as bad, just not the focus of this particular spotlight | Mar 25 13:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why don't #Labour expose ALL of their funding & access, then "now your turn" to the others? they're ALL corrupt | Mar 25 13:55 | |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, my prediction is people will start rebelling against bic lighter type computers | Mar 25 13:56 |
| cubezzz | stuff that can't be repairable | Mar 25 13:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NHTSA Suggestion Would Cripple In-Car #GPS Displays http://goo.gl/XDKNQ do these people think before making a suggestion? seems not | Mar 25 13:58 | |
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| oiaohm | cubezzz: really I don't. | Mar 25 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Reason its getting cheaper to recycle than work on them. | Mar 25 14:00 |
| oiaohm | USA company has worked out how to basically extract and reuse the resources. | Mar 25 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Even from general waste. | Mar 25 14:00 |
| oiaohm | So in a few years we should see the loop close. | Mar 25 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron seems more pissed that one of his mates got caught on camera pimping influence, than the actual act itself #Tories #Politics | Mar 25 14:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Who, What, Why: How do cats survive falls from great heights? http://goo.gl/K1uzz | Mar 25 14:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Google Chromebook May Get Cheaper, To Run On ARM Chips | Muktware http://goo.gl/m6zdB | Mar 25 14:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Chromebook May Get Cheaper, To Run On ARM Chips | Muktware .::. Size~: 32.37 KB | Mar 25 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] OHAI, !linux !lazyweb - I am looking for a good !kde plasmoid for task management, preferably connected to #BasKet. Any suggestions? | Mar 25 14:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I am trying to use #EdgeRyders editor. why the hell don't they provide a nice pure-text editor for those of us that can handle their tags?.. | Mar 25 15:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And why the heck comments don't seem to work in userprofiles?.. :/ #EdgeRyders | Mar 25 15:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And why the hell does "I want to meet this person" automagically mean "you are now following this user"?! #EdgeRyders | Mar 25 15:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @magicfab A quick reminder: the #FSF LibrePlanet 2012 conference is streamed live at http://live.fsf.org/ #lp2012 !uqc !facil | Mar 25 15:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @magicfab #lp2012 #fsf Are you a Linux Defender, a soldier in the patent wars? http://linuxdefenders.org/ | Mar 25 15:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | they must be loading those trains down more lately | Mar 25 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | they never used to rattle my house until recently | Mar 25 15:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !gnu !linuxlibre sources cleaned up as -gnu for all base and latest stable release since 2.6.27; old -libre* releases now in old/gen5 | Mar 25 15:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 8 Creepy Spy Technologies That Can Be Hitched to Your Neighborhood Drones | AlterNet http://goo.gl/3CXCC #usa #policestate | Mar 25 15:57 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 8 Creepy Spy Technologies That Can Be Hitched to Your Neighborhood Drones | Civil Liberties | AlterNet .::. Size~: 123.79 KB | Mar 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456045 | Mar 25 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | "http://www.pcworld.com/article/252504/not_so_hot_new_ipad_heat_levels_comparable_to_android_tablets.html " | Mar 25 15:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not So Hot: New iPad Heat Levels Comparable to Android Tablets | PCWorld .::. Size~: 91.17 KB | Mar 25 15:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456045 | Mar 25 15:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Mar 25 15:58 |
| schestowitz | "Measurements in the above tests were with plenty of air circulating around the tablets. If sat on a lap then temperature is going to soar (as happens when people put laptops on their lap and block the vents - resulting in burns). " | Mar 25 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Re: Some things | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > Hello Roy! | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > I have reported in Internet some information: | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/32409-BUGS-ISSUES-REPORT-Windows-8-Consumer-Preview-Build-8250/page24 | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 25 16:02 |
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| schestowitz | > Nick: Jul12 | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > I believe that question will be putted up about statistical information. | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3346719/free-software-foundation-urges-eu-parliament-staff-reject-microsoft-bribe/?olo=rss | Mar 25 16:02 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/252516/why_linux_on_the_desktop_is_dead.html | Mar 25 16:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Cancer is finally cured in Canada but #BigPharma has no interest, watch it 'till the end! - YouTube http://goo.gl/ON7cN | Mar 25 16:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Enlightenment EFL Package Releases http://ur1.ca/8swhc #gnu #linux | Mar 25 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Short Sharp Science: #Cancer drug resurfaces and threatens false optimism http://goo.gl/nZQxU #dca #bigpharma | Mar 25 16:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CMD Asks Wisconsin Ethics Board to Examine Corporate-Funded Gifts to #ALEC Legislators http://ur1.ca/8swnc corporate #bribe via proxy | Mar 25 16:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 55 Preparedness Items (Modern Survival Blog) http://goo.gl/yjpLe #preppers | Mar 25 16:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora Audio Spin: Creating Music With Fedora [Exclusive Interview] http://ur1.ca/8swnz #gnu #linux | Mar 25 16:23 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1449418# | Mar 25 16:24 |
| schestowitz | "Döbele the stated reason Assange does not want to go to Sweden is he believes that when he arrives he will be deported to the US. His lawyer has apparently offered for him to go to Sweden of his own volition if the Swedish government will publicly commit to not extraditing him to the US." | Mar 25 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pirate Bay plans to build aerial server drones with $35 Linux computer http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/pirate-bay-plans-to-build-aerial-server-drones-with-35-linux-computer.ars?clicked=related_right #gnu #linux #server | Mar 25 16:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Can someone bring me a USB stick? #lp2012 | Mar 25 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Just say free software :) | Mar 25 16:25 | |
| schestowitz | KDE Tablet Vivaldi To Get 10-inch Version, First Tablet Received 3000 Orders http://www.muktware.com/news/3446/kde-tablet-vivaldi-get-10-inch-version-first-tablet-received-3000-orders | Mar 25 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: KDE Tablet Vivaldi To Get 10-inch Version, First Tablet Received 3000 Orders | Muktware .::. Size~: 32.18 KB | Mar 25 16:26 |
| schestowitz | that's like a million dollars/euro, not bad | Mar 25 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Hehe http://www.muktware.com/news/3447/jobs-ubuntu-be-ios-person-canonical | Mar 25 16:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jobs At Ubuntu: Be The iOS Person In Canonical | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.71 KB | Mar 25 16:28 |
| schestowitz | iCanonical? | Mar 25 16:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] This conference is focused on free software, not open source. The power of words and the importance of framing :) | Mar 25 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] UT-Dallas Professor Adds 'Enemies' Feature To #Facebook http://goo.gl/J02zO #fb | Mar 25 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] for the next 60 seconds I have decided to agree with everyone about everything, the following 60 seconds will be spent in a cleansing trance | Mar 25 16:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Powers More Than 50% Of Global Trading Volume http://ur1.ca/8swpz #redhat #gnu #linux | Mar 25 16:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lenovo Sucks- Never buy this box http://ur1.ca/8swrv "aulty bios that cannot boot any #Linux distro" | Mar 25 16:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Lenovo Sucks- Never buy this box | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 215.68 KB | Mar 25 16:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] #lp2012 the stream is dead right now. we'll bring it back after Matz. | Mar 25 16:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @evan Once again proving that idle hands are Stallman's workshop. #lp2012 | Mar 25 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] "Emacs taught me freedom for software" @yukihiro_matz #lp2012 | Mar 25 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Comice OS 4 Final Officially Released http://ur1.ca/8sx1f #gnu #linux | Mar 25 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Grandfather Gets Arrested for Holding Burglar at Gunpoint While Waiting for Police to Arrive | The Stir http://goo.gl/USLqF #usa #socialism | Mar 25 17:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Grandfather Gets Arrested for Holding Burglar at Gunpoint While Waiting for Police to Arrive | The Stir .::. Size~: 62.06 KB | Mar 25 17:12 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 25 17:19 |
| formic_ | the burglar has rights man | Mar 25 17:19 |
| formic_ | burglar also sues man for involuntary confinement | Mar 25 17:21 |
| formic_ | sues the owner for the health hazard from the broken window | Mar 25 17:21 |
| formic_ | " On his first trip home, having joined thefreeway, he set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the drivers seat to go into the back and make himself a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly the Winnie left the freeway, crashed and overturned." | Mar 25 17:25 |
| formic_ | " Mr Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the handbook that he couldn't actually do this. He was awarded $1,750,000 plus a new Winnie. " | Mar 25 17:26 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 25 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Observations on the growth of Linux use http://ur1.ca/8sx76 #gnu #linux | Mar 25 17:28 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | I... what? | Mar 25 17:29 |
| formic_ | Mr. Merv Grazinski | Mar 25 17:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Somewhere In New Mexico Before The End Of Time - YouTube http://goo.gl/rpB5l via http://goo.gl/P0IVX #docs #postpeakoil | Mar 25 17:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] German Army #PeakOil Study - within 10 years oil shortages may collapse global economy - YouTube http://goo.gl/zuuXW #germany | Mar 25 17:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Why are there only 3 entries in the #FutureOfCopyright competition? Come on, !cc, !fs, !gnu, there are $100's to be had! bit.ly/H1csqe | Mar 25 17:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | doh! | Mar 25 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | apparently I'm using the ABRT Desktop Environment | Mar 25 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | I have one up doing a retrace on a GNOME Shell crash | Mar 25 18:07 |
| formic_ | lol | Mar 25 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | and another one doing the same for XChat-GNOME | Mar 25 18:07 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/183959332998754305?iid=am-136815635413326942976633967&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Mar 25 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Metztli_IT: #Lenovo Ideapad S205 has "faulty bios [& apparently doesn't like #GRUB2]cannot boot any #Linux distro" http://t.co/vnVzJzQd {♺ @schestowitz} | Mar 25 18:19 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I just replied to an email from my dad, he was wanting to know what that "Anonymous OS" thing was about | Mar 25 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | I just told him that Sourceforge claims it was malware and took it down, and that I honestly have no idea whether it is or not | Mar 25 18:26 |
| DaemonFC | they claim it's not, but unless they fork over the source code I'm not going to believe it | Mar 25 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | in binary form it *could* be anything | Mar 25 18:27 |
| schestowitz | yeah, exactly | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | someone inspected ythe binaries | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | they're different | Mar 25 18:28 |
| formic_ | they're not anonymous stuff | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | but AFAIK nobody could prove it was in fatc rogue | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | sf removed it based on the identity issue | Mar 25 18:28 |
| formic_ | anony already has a distro based on arch | Mar 25 18:28 |
| formic_ | chorimoya | Mar 25 18:28 |
| schestowitz | cause it was falsely associating itself with Anonymous | Mar 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz | formic_: yes, exactly | Mar 25 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | if they turned it all over in source code form they could put the entire issue to rest | Mar 25 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | since they aren't, it leads me to believe they're hiding things | Mar 25 18:29 |
| formic_ | why would they use noobuntu | Mar 25 18:29 |
| schestowitz | beautiful weather here today | Mar 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz | hottest march on record | Mar 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz | 10 degrees today | Mar 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz | 20 | Mar 25 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | formic_, There's nothing terribly horribly fucked up with the Ubuntu core system | Mar 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz | formic_: no global warming, eh? | Mar 25 18:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @mindspillage "There are millions and millions of devices running the linux kernel, that people just have in their pants." -Matthew G ... | Mar 25 18:30 | |
| DaemonFC | where it starts getting seriously bad is when you use their desktop environment | Mar 25 18:30 |
| formic_ | its freezing today, i wish | Mar 25 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I got some tan today, was t running http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/02.png http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/13.png http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1c.png http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1a.png | Mar 25 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 25 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 25 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 25 18:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 25 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | NOOOOOO!!!!! PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION!!! | Mar 25 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | THERE'S OPTIONS! | Mar 25 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | What are? | Mar 25 18:35 |
| *XFaCE gives voice to amarsh04 DaemonFC Diablo-D3 kari | Mar 25 18:37 | |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: seem blurry\ | Mar 25 18:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ability to Learn Is Affected by the Timing of Sleep (Scientific American Podcast): http://bit.ly/GQtkwf | Mar 25 18:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | other than the crashing I think I kind of like GNOME 3.3.92 :P | Mar 25 18:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Journalist seeking truth about Khmer Rouge 'fears for his life' http://gu.com/p/36ddn | Mar 25 18:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Journalist seeking truth about Khmer Rouge 'fears for his life' | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 135.76 KB | Mar 25 18:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Javascript Game of #Tron In 226 Bytes http://goo.gl/E55w8 | Mar 25 18:45 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: screenshots pls | Mar 25 18:47 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: webcam | Mar 25 18:48 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: understood | Mar 25 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456754 | Mar 25 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Fedora Audio Spin: Creating Music With Fedora [Exclusive Interview] http://www.muktware.com/news/3445/fedora-audio-spin-creating-music-fedora-exclusive-interview #gnu #linux | Mar 25 18:51 |
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| schestowitz | "Nice pick - have you tried it yet?" | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | has anyone? | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | maybe formic_ | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | he worked on a spin too | Mar 25 18:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: pick of what? | Mar 25 18:51 |
| schestowitz | ConspiraSpin | Mar 25 18:51 |
| formic_ | huh | Mar 25 18:51 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: is that ender's distro? | Mar 25 18:51 |
| formic_ | ooh this ender is everyone stuff again | Mar 25 18:52 |
| XFaCE | This is the world we live in. | Mar 25 18:53 |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Genesis - Land Of Confusion [Invisible Touch (Virgin, GEN PCD 2) (Picture CD)] | Mar 25 18:54 | |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Genesis - Land Of Confusion [Invisible Touch (Virgin, GEN PCD 2) (Picture CD)] | Mar 25 18:54 | |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Genesis - Land Of Confusion [Invisible Touch (Virgin, GEN PCD 2) (Picture CD)] | Mar 25 18:54 | |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Genesis - Land Of Confusion [Invisible Touch (Virgin, GEN PCD 2) (Picture CD)] | Mar 25 18:54 | |
| XFaCE | err | Mar 25 18:54 |
| XFaCE | 4 times? | Mar 25 18:54 |
| XFaCE | Media Player Classic not running | Mar 25 18:54 |
| XFaCE | Media Player Classic not running | Mar 25 18:54 |
| XFaCE | Media Player Classic not running | Mar 25 18:54 |
| XFaCE | Media Player Classic not running | Mar 25 18:54 |
| formic_ | media player classic? | Mar 25 18:54 |
| XFaCE | looks like the xchat plugins want to print things 4 times | Mar 25 18:54 |
| formic_ | CTCP-VERSION reply from XFaCE: XChat-WDK on Microshaft Windblows. | Mar 25 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRN2/ | Mar 25 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Seagate ST2000DM001 Barracuda 7200RPM 2 TB SATA 6 GB/s NCQ 64 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive: Electronics .::. Size~: 499.55 KB | Mar 25 18:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @mindspillage "Freedoms are worthless if you can't exercise them." --Matthew Garrett #lp2012 | Mar 25 18:55 | |
| DaemonFC | there we go | Mar 25 18:55 |
| formic_ | you like your hard drives bare? | Mar 25 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | well, I haven't actually bought a hard disk since 2009 | Mar 25 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | so I was a little behind on the current technology | Mar 25 18:56 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC really wants a 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive | Mar 25 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I stuffed one of those "Green" models in my cart and then realized that this one was the same price | Mar 25 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | bleh | Mar 25 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | that would have been bad | Mar 25 18:57 |
| formic_ | depopulation is more effective than 'green' hard drives | Mar 25 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Mar 25 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | the difference in power usage would have been about 4 cents per month | Mar 25 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | and the seek times on the 5900 RPM drive are obviously much much worse | Mar 25 18:59 |
| formic_ | plus theres a 50 percent chance that the abortion might have been a republican | Mar 25 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | actually | Mar 25 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Republicans don't talk about abortions when they have them | Mar 25 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | so I don't think you're going to prove that | Mar 25 19:00 |
| formic_ | just the law of averages | Mar 25 19:01 |
| formic_ | assuming there is no brainwashing involved, theres an even chance of the child being left or right wing | Mar 25 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | most catholics use birth control | Mar 25 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | they just don't admit to it | Mar 25 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | see, sin is only sin when it's you, not them | Mar 25 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 25 19:02 |
| formic_ | be fruitful and multiply, just don't forget to bring a conny | Mar 25 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Dawn likes her hard drives lots and large | Mar 25 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I'll recommend XFS next time I see her | Mar 25 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "Free software is something we must make available to all humans, regardless of privilege." Too true. #lp2012 | Mar 25 19:07 | |
| schestowitz | she fixes them with a razor-sharp magnet | Mar 25 19:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do women like "slutty" guys? | Mar 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | what about the gay community? | Mar 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | does the notion of "slutty "exist there? | Mar 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | because among females, for examples, being like Dawn devalues her as a partner | Mar 25 19:08 |
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| DaemonFC | well, there's certainly plenty that don't care what they end up banging but that's not a gay thing | Mar 25 19:08 |
| schestowitz | didn't imply that | Mar 25 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | I try to stay clear of people like that | Mar 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | my question is, do gay people find gay people who sleep around repellent? | Mar 25 19:09 |
| cubezzz | it's academic | Mar 25 19:09 |
| cubezzz | HIV | Mar 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | how so? | Mar 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | naa | Mar 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | not STD-related | Mar 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | the idea of uniqueness | Mar 25 19:09 |
| schestowitz | let me tell you that girl who slept with many men don't wanna talk about it | Mar 25 19:10 |
| schestowitz | and it only gets more complicated for them when they look for a spouse | Mar 25 19:10 |
| cubezzz | blood tests... | Mar 25 19:10 |
| schestowitz | oh, you mean in the gay community? | Mar 25 19:10 |
| schestowitz | or a smear? | Mar 25 19:10 |
| cubezzz | no in general | Mar 25 19:10 |
| schestowitz | i'm not too sure | Mar 25 19:10 |
| cubezzz | either way | Mar 25 19:10 |
| schestowitz | I don't think STDs are the dominant factors when it comes to it | Mar 25 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's nasty no matter who does it | Mar 25 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | NASTY | Mar 25 19:11 |
| schestowitz | people like to think as though they own or possess to connect to a person | Mar 25 19:11 |
| schestowitz | I don't think STDs are the main factor here | Mar 25 19:11 |
| formic_ | STDs are bind on pickup | Mar 25 19:12 |
| cubezzz | monogomy is safer | Mar 25 19:12 |
| schestowitz | mono? | Mar 25 19:12 |
| cubezzz | or even stallmanism :) | Mar 25 19:12 |
| schestowitz | abstinence? | Mar 25 19:12 |
| cubezzz | yes | Mar 25 19:12 |
| schestowitz | he's q 21st century amish | Mar 25 19:13 |
| formic_ | stallman still doesn't use a password | Mar 25 19:13 |
| cubezzz | avoidant personality disorder possibly | Mar 25 19:13 |
| schestowitz | formic_: just keys? | Mar 25 19:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tory enquiry into #corruption will be an exercise in "how not to get caught next time" #politics | Mar 25 19:13 | |
| formic_ | no | Mar 25 19:13 |
| formic_ | he lets people roam through his stuff | Mar 25 19:14 |
| schestowitz | everything? | Mar 25 19:14 |
| formic_ | yeah | Mar 25 19:14 |
| cubezzz | what I find odd is he evidently doesn't surf the net | Mar 25 19:14 |
| schestowitz | what abut his workstation? | Mar 25 19:14 |
| formic_ | he has nothing to hide | Mar 25 19:14 |
| cubezzz | only uses email | Mar 25 19:14 |
| formic_ | all you need to do is email him and ask for a shell | Mar 25 19:14 |
| schestowitz | oh, cool | Mar 25 19:14 |
| schestowitz | what about the gnu servers? | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | does he let fsf people do all that? | Mar 25 19:15 |
| formic_ | he doesnt run those | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | how does he update his blog? | Mar 25 19:15 |
| formic_ | one of the 7 paid fsf members | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | and are incoming messages to him all public? | Mar 25 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | by having Miguel de Icaza do it for him | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | mattl currenyly | Mar 25 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | just like his desktop environment | Mar 25 19:15 |
| schestowitz | desktop# | Mar 25 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | desktop###############################################################################################3 | Mar 25 19:18 |
| schestowitz | it boots with activeX | Mar 25 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz No it doesn't | Mar 25 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | it has MANAGED ActiveX | Mar 25 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | and Managed DirectX | Mar 25 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | and Managed this and Managed that | Mar 25 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | and it Manages everything | Mar 25 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | it manages to manage | Mar 25 19:22 |
| formic_ | i dont think it manages to manage to manage very well | Mar 25 19:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yo dawg. manage while you're managing... | Mar 25 19:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Idea: use a bayesian filter with 1 category per cartoon to determine best-match xkcd cartoon for any page or Identi.ca conversation. | Mar 25 19:32 | |
| *DaemonFC manages | Mar 25 19:32 | |
| DaemonFC | the results aren't pretty | Mar 25 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | but I manage | Mar 25 19:32 |
| schestowitz | That's what Steve Ballmer said | Mar 25 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | oh you just get a big ape and have it puff on a cigar | Mar 25 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | and you can replace Ballmer | Mar 25 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | and save tons of money | Mar 25 19:33 |
| schestowitz | it only gets dark at 8pm now, we moved the clock. how nice. | Mar 25 19:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Ballmer does not manage much | Mar 25 19:34 |
| schestowitz | he is not a techie | Mar 25 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | screaming at people | Mar 25 19:34 |
| cubezzz | what does he actually do? | Mar 25 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | screaming at people | Mar 25 19:34 |
| schestowitz | they have a board and some antisocial people from the early days of the company | Mar 25 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | screaming at people | Mar 25 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 25 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | lunch | Mar 25 19:34 |
| schestowitz | yaah | Mar 25 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I had a chat about it last night | Mar 25 19:34 |
| schestowitz | 6 hours | Mar 25 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | back to screaming at people | Mar 25 19:34 |
| schestowitz | on how people in management think | Mar 25 19:34 |
| cubezzz | Mr Slate :) | Mar 25 19:35 |
| schestowitz | and what they are | Mar 25 19:35 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: | Mar 25 19:35 |
| cubezzz | an old story... talent controlled by non-talent | Mar 25 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > There are a few more things I wanted to tell you. Job without life is | Mar 25 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > probably worse than a life without a job. I learned this from | Mar 25 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > observation and thought about it while I ran today (there was a special | Mar 25 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > event, it's summer-like weather here today). | Mar 25 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 25 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > My friend Mike looks so much happier this weekend, a lot more healthy | Mar 25 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > and positive. May his new job bring a life of joy, more time with | Mar 25 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > friends. :-) I saw him with my friend Steve at the gym today, he finally | Mar 25 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > has time to get back to less than ~80/hours a week of hard work. | Mar 25 19:36 |
| schestowitz | sociopaths | Mar 25 19:37 |
| schestowitz | people who want money | Mar 25 19:37 |
| schestowitz | congrolling those who only ask for tehnkyou | Mar 25 19:37 |
| schestowitz | or credit | Mar 25 19:37 |
| schestowitz | people with inferiority complex | Mar 25 19:37 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: What's so great about gnome 3.4? Were you being sarcastic? | Mar 25 19:37 |
| cubezzz | I updated my text file on microsoft: | Mar 25 19:37 |
| schestowitz | vs people whose actions speak for themselves (actions as in achievements rather) | Mar 25 19:38 |
| schestowitz | I told my fiancée why I quit previous jobs | Mar 25 19:38 |
| *schestowitz doesn't like to be bossed by jerks | Mar 25 19:38 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: what's the file's address/URL? | Mar 25 19:38 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ms-dirtytricks.txt | Mar 25 19:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type | Mar 25 19:38 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: MSFT became a bit boring | Mar 25 19:38 |
| schestowitz | and I think people are mor apathetic now | Mar 25 19:39 |
| cubezzz | yeah well I like to keep track | Mar 25 19:39 |
| schestowitz | which is bad in a sense, like, when people let Microsoft just abuse the OEM channel | Mar 25 19:39 |
| schestowitz | that said, OEMs are affected by tablet,s phones with amazing screen res, etc. | Mar 25 19:39 |
| schestowitz | MSFT is not something even Linux advocates care so much about anymore | Mar 25 19:40 |
| cubezzz | microsoft doesn't have much going on with tablets though right? | Mar 25 19:40 |
| schestowitz | more are keeping track of what Apple is up to, esp. since the "theoomnuclear' war started | Mar 25 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz jerk bosses are paid big bucks to jerk people around | Mar 25 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | it's what they do | Mar 25 19:41 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: it has lots of steam going | Mar 25 19:41 |
| schestowitz | vapourware | Mar 25 19:41 |
| cubezzz | ha | Mar 25 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | almost nobody in charge actually knows what's going on | Mar 25 19:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes! | Mar 25 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | they're not paid to | Mar 25 19:41 |
| schestowitz | being merciless is "good" | Mar 25 19:41 |
| schestowitz | for business | Mar 25 19:41 |
| schestowitz | and being disobedient makes you a "bad" employee | Mar 25 19:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm having a hard time replicating this. When you say "personal timeline", do you mean your stuff, or stuff of people you follow? | Mar 25 19:42 | |
| schestowitz | following commands makes you a commendable troop, worker... | Mar 25 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | downward pressure | Mar 25 19:42 |
| schestowitz | otherwise you're an exteremist-zealot-radical | Mar 25 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | get it done or we'll fire you | Mar 25 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | write you up | Mar 25 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | give you a pay cut | Mar 25 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I heard stories from "bad" bosses | Mar 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | people who helped employees whom they were asked to discharge | Mar 25 19:43 |
| cubezzz | I'm watching to see if any windows dude looks at that file :) | Mar 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | it's "bad for business" to keep under-performing staff | Mar 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | but it can be good for society | Mar 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | less pressure | Mar 25 19:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, I think I see it here: http://identi.ca/url/68355226 | Mar 25 19:43 | |
| schestowitz | not to be pressure-driven, just motivation-driven | Mar 25 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: march's home timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 32.98 KB | Mar 25 19:43 |
| schestowitz | as in, if you want to be promoted work harder | Mar 25 19:44 |
| schestowitz | if not, be as you are | Mar 25 19:44 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, a lot of people are into Linux now, even 20-somethings | Mar 25 19:44 |
| cubezzz | I'm always a little surprised | Mar 25 19:44 |
| schestowitz | I knew some people who took a step down in their career just so that they can do a pressure-free job | Mar 25 19:44 |
| schestowitz | or an "ethical" job | Mar 25 19:44 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: same for Apple | Mar 25 19:44 |
| schestowitz | lots of hipsters out there | Mar 25 19:45 |
| cubezzz | what am I then? :) | Mar 25 19:45 |
| schestowitz | outcast | Mar 25 19:45 |
| cubezzz | I may be beyond classification :) | Mar 25 19:45 |
| schestowitz | "not recognised" | Mar 25 19:45 |
| cubezzz | damn it, I thought I was cool | Mar 25 19:45 |
| schestowitz | not in the system, too unique to create a group on the system | Mar 25 19:46 |
| schestowitz | you follow your own principles of a hybrid of several | Mar 25 19:46 |
| schestowitz | not like emo and the like | Mar 25 19:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC is an odd duck | Mar 25 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | emos are a big segment of Apple's customer base | Mar 25 19:46 |
| schestowitz | he's a gun-slinging gay man who likes cats and trolls fora | Mar 25 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | the other half seem to be stupid old people | Mar 25 19:46 |
| cubezzz | I'm a party dude compared to Stallman though :) | Mar 25 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Stallman does party | Mar 25 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Please don't cross-post to dozens of groups. | Mar 25 19:47 | |
| DaemonFC | cats are cool | Mar 25 19:47 |
| schestowitz | !google soulja boy stallman | Mar 25 19:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Soulja Boy dance, MIT style - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPube5Aynsls | Mar 25 19:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Soulja Boy crank dat, MIT style - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7C6r6fG4k40 | Mar 25 19:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs : Stallman doing the Soulja Boy dance | http://www.fakesteve.net/2008/01/stallman-doing-soulja-boy-dance.html | Mar 25 19:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Stallman doing - Redirecting | http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/01/stallman-doing-soulja-boy-dance.html | Mar 25 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | and cuddly | Mar 25 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | and fluffy | Mar 25 19:47 |
| cubezzz | I should check his blog | Mar 25 19:47 |
| cubezzz | Haven't looked at it in a long time | Mar 25 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'll take a look. It's probably an off-by-1 error on my part. | Mar 25 19:48 | |
| schestowitz | "fake" Steve there | Mar 25 19:48 |
| schestowitz | retreated | Mar 25 19:49 |
| schestowitz | and now the "real" steve is dead | Mar 25 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | fake Ballmer..... | Mar 25 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | there was a fake Ballmer | Mar 25 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | is he still around? | Mar 25 19:49 |
| cubezzz | fake Ballmer would be an improvement though | Mar 25 19:49 |
| cubezzz | less sweaty :) | Mar 25 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | !google fake steve ballmer | Mar 25 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - fakesteveballmer | http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com/ | Mar 25 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs : Ballmer portrait done in Windows ... | http://www.fakesteve.net/2009/12/ballmer-portrait-done-in-bsods.html | Mar 25 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Fake Steve Ballmer (@fakesteveb) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/fakesteveb | Mar 25 19:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Real or Fake: Steve Ballmer Fires Microsoft Employee for Not ... | http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/12/real_or_fake_steve_ballmer_fir.php | Mar 25 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | speaking of no proper 32-bit Microsoft OS..... | Mar 25 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | !google win32s | Mar 25 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Win32s - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win32s | Mar 25 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Download and install Win32s | http://web.mit.edu/cascon/microsoft/win32sins.htm | Mar 25 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Win32s compatibility list | http://stephan.win31.de/w32slist.htm | Mar 25 19:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Win32s compatibility list - i24.com | http://www.i24.com/de/win32s/tips/w32slist.htm | Mar 25 19:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens | Mar 25 19:52 | |
| DaemonFC | had to install that to get freecell | Mar 25 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | sure it was a tad much just for freecell | Mar 25 19:52 |
| cubezzz | there must be a million freecell clones though | Mar 25 19:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hello @Carlopiana @Davidmarsden @Mcnalu @R7 @Sandersch @Thistleweb @Zoowar | Mar 25 19:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The world's oldest record shop: on the vinyl frontier since 1894 http://is.gd/Hecstv #borrowedtime | Mar 25 20:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The world's oldest record shop: on the vinyl frontier since 1894 | Music | The Observer .::. Size~: 213.12 KB | Mar 25 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] are #Jedi & #Sith card carrying members of the #Ignite #union? #StarWars - I can see #arsonists campaigning for a rule change to include em | Mar 25 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @mcnalu i like to know about ido, my response was regarding vulcan translation | Mar 25 20:05 | |
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| schestowitz | "After a cool start with any mist or fog soon clearing, it will be another dry and sunny day. Becoming very warm once again with light southeasterly winds." | Mar 25 20:11 |
| schestowitz | The weather is so good these days | Mar 25 20:11 |
| schestowitz | until Weds | Mar 25 20:12 |
| schestowitz | KDE4 does not seem to be developing much | Mar 25 20:19 |
| schestowitz | I mean, I look at what has been added or improved recently. I see just about nothing | Mar 25 20:19 |
| schestowitz | but since KDE is more featureful than any other environment, what's left for it to do or copy? | Mar 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | It seems like Apple and Microsoft arr too busy just copying KDE | Mar 25 20:20 |
| formic_ | its impoving | Mar 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | KDE5 is coming | Mar 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | or whatever they call it | Mar 25 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "we expect to have access to Govt" - the head of #Sainsbuys #bigmoney #politics | Mar 25 20:20 | |
| schestowitz | development environment or framework ... | Mar 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | I was thinking of getting a Vivaldi | Mar 25 20:20 |
| schestowitz | If it's just a nice kde-plasma or kde-netbook UI with proper apps and repos, ssh+x and stuff included, then it's very handy for taking material with you | Mar 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | like a low-cost laptop | Mar 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | without a keyboard, meh | Mar 25 20:21 |
| formic_ | I want one too | Mar 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | they got 3000 orders | Mar 25 20:21 |
| schestowitz | sigo said | Mar 25 20:22 |
| schestowitz | seigo | Mar 25 20:22 |
| formic_ | it looks rugged | Mar 25 20:23 |
| formic_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlX7mkGeg3o | Mar 25 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vivaldi tablet (aka Spark tablet) with KDE Plasma Active - Live demo - YouTube .::. Size~: 111.96 KB | Mar 25 20:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pakistan supreme court to decide fate of Hindu woman in Muslim marriage row http://gu.com/p/36dnd | Mar 25 20:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Pakistan supreme court to decide fate of Hindu woman in Muslim marriage row | World news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 109.99 KB | Mar 25 20:24 |
| formic_ | anyone use tape backups? | Mar 25 20:25 |
| schestowitz | some companies do | Mar 25 20:25 |
| schestowitz | still | Mar 25 20:25 |
| formic_ | tape backups are still viable | Mar 25 20:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] In the digital future, the Guardian must turn its readers into a resource http://gu.com/p/36dqh sell people's data? paywall? | Mar 25 20:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In the digital future, the Guardian must turn its readers into a resource | Charlie Beckett | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 117.41 KB | Mar 25 20:25 |
| formic_ | You can get ones that hold several terabytes | Mar 25 20:25 |
| formic_ | I need to do archival storage and dvd media only lasts about 5 years | Mar 25 20:26 |
| formic_ | hard drives too fragile | Mar 25 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PeterCruddas is not a young naieve man starting out in politics, he's been in it for decades, he knows selling access is wrong, yet did it | Mar 25 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] he did it because he thought as all corrupt elite do; "I won;'t get caught, and it furthers the party cause" | Mar 25 20:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] so any Tory excuse of "he made a mistake, but no harm was really done" is all #bullshit - he got caught with his pants down | Mar 25 20:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I think I'll patent EVERYTHING already patented with "on another planet" as the USP in preparation for the great expanse of mankind ;) | Mar 25 20:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456791 | Mar 25 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Lenovo Sucks- Never buy this box http://www.ghabuntu.com/2012/03/lenovo-sucks-never-buy-this-box.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+luqman+%28GHABUNTU%29 "aulty bios that cannot boot any #Linux distro" | Mar 25 20:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Lenovo Sucks- Never buy this box | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 217.47 KB | Mar 25 20:33 |
| schestowitz | "Never had problems with any of the Lenovo products. From time to time there's a bug in the BIOS - sure. But normally there's a patch CD available which you can boot and burn without Windows. " | Mar 25 20:33 |
| schestowitz | formic_: I think they're used for legacy reasons | Mar 25 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | with stuff like tar- tap archive | Mar 25 20:34 |
| schestowitz | are they cheap to make, still? | Mar 25 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Are they being manufactured at all? | Mar 25 20:34 |
| schestowitz | when backup is about quantity that can compensate for quality, tapes are OK | Mar 25 20:34 |
| formic_ | yes they're still being made | Mar 25 20:34 |
| formic_ | they're probably the most reliable for archive | Mar 25 20:35 |
| schestowitz | what size are they made to cover? | Mar 25 20:35 |
| schestowitz | reliable how? For long-term preservation? | Mar 25 20:35 |
| formic_ | i've seem some multi terabyte tapes | Mar 25 20:35 |
| formic_ | long term preservation | Mar 25 20:35 |
| schestowitz | yes, but how many TBs? | Mar 25 20:35 |
| formic_ | the organic dye in dvds leaks and spoils the disk | Mar 25 20:35 |
| formic_ | I think 1 or 2 | Mar 25 20:35 |
| schestowitz | som storage units can do petabytes | Mar 25 20:36 |
| formic_ | hard drives are fragile, movement can damage them | Mar 25 20:36 |
| schestowitz | any tables on how they compare on these merits>? | Mar 25 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Like magnetic vs ssd vs tape? | Mar 25 20:38 |
| formic_ | tape happens to be cheapest and more reliable than a hard drive if you store properly | Mar 25 20:38 |
| formic_ | price per gigabyte | Mar 25 20:38 |
| formic_ | ssd might be better but its expensive | Mar 25 20:39 |
| schestowitz | well, here's the thing | Mar 25 20:39 |
| schestowitz | yuo need to get the 21uipmejnt in | Mar 25 20:39 |
| schestowitz | and then the tapes are cheap | Mar 25 20:39 |
| schestowitz | cheaper than plates | Mar 25 20:39 |
| schestowitz | but if you only use like 2 tapes, then the stuff that operates on them would be quite expensive | Mar 25 20:39 |
| schestowitz | you cannot unmount plates from a HDD | Mar 25 20:40 |
| schestowitz | not afaik | Mar 25 20:40 |
| schestowitz | unless some were designed to achieve this | Mar 25 20:40 |
| formic_ | I have 6tb of stuff I want to abckup | Mar 25 20:40 |
| schestowitz | wow, that's a LOT of pr0n | Mar 25 20:40 |
| formic_ | nah | Mar 25 20:40 |
| formic_ | a lot of tv | Mar 25 20:41 |
| schestowitz | a lot of pr0n TV | Mar 25 20:41 |
| formic_ | sci fi | Mar 25 20:41 |
| schestowitz | scifi pr0n? | Mar 25 20:41 |
| formic_ | some of it isn't on the air anymore or remastered on dvd | Mar 25 20:41 |
| schestowitz | "piracy !!" | Mar 25 20:42 |
| formic_ | truecrypt volumes + tape backup | Mar 25 20:42 |
| formic_ | =win | Mar 25 20:42 |
| schestowitz | !google winning | Mar 25 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - CHARLIE SHEEN - WINNING - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DpipTwjwrQYQ | Mar 25 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Urban Dictionary: winning | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dwinning | Mar 25 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Winning | Define Winning at Dictionary.com | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/winning | Mar 25 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Winning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winning | Mar 25 20:43 |
| formic_ | hmmm | Mar 25 20:44 |
| formic_ | nvm | Mar 25 20:45 |
| formic_ | 320x 4gb usb drives | Mar 25 20:45 |
| formic_ | LOL | Mar 25 20:45 |
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| schestowitz | wow, 4gb | Mar 25 20:51 |
| schestowitz | that's loads | Mar 25 20:51 |
| schestowitz | for the 1990s | Mar 25 20:51 |
| schestowitz | early 90s | Mar 25 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have watched Avatar once and that is more than enough. | Mar 25 20:55 | |
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| schestowitz | meh! | Mar 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | meh! | Mar 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | cored | Mar 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | oops, wrong windows, cidregard that | Mar 25 21:18 |
| schestowitz | *disregard | Mar 25 21:18 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @themadman: I recently discovered through my gf you can't change Windows' system language with anything less than Ultimate edition. Lame | Mar 25 21:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Learning to Internet http://rys.io/en/67 | Ucząc się Internetów http://rys.io/pl/67 | Mar 25 21:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is nybill from identi.ca with 54 dents! | Mar 25 21:37 | |
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| formic_ | It's getting more and more viable every day to get rainbow tables | Mar 25 22:02 |
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| mrf | hello roy | Mar 25 22:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Forks Over Knives | The Official Movie Website http://goo.gl/qZTqB #preppers #food - a #docs everybody should watch | Mar 25 22:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Alan Wake on vista7. Looks like what it is, a 2 year old xbox game. Funny that he gets in a ford early on that displays microsoft sync :) | Mar 25 22:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So many of the games developers are wasting my bandwidth by tempting me to download them. | Mar 25 22:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] Returned from libreplanet2012. So much to talk about and to do. | Mar 25 23:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Terminator 3 it is like watching your ex mrs presenting her bill. #difficulttoavoid | Mar 25 23:17 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Mar 25 23:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] So why was Water World a flop? | Mar 25 23:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I remember reading a paperback called The Crash Of 79 thinking we are in modern times it is near impossible. | Mar 25 23:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Capitalism improved on slavery as it made the slaves think it was their fault. | Mar 25 23:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] having watched some #Tarrentino movies again recently, I do declare that #JackieBrown oozes class, #PulpFiction & #ReservoirDogs are cool | Mar 25 23:55 | |
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