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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @evan Talk about a long time" all i could try is just a crazy white guyMar 26 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Excesso de limpeza pode levar a doenças inflamatórias | Saúde | Diário Digital http://goo.gl/QcTTGMar 26 00:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Excesso de limpeza pode levar a doenças inflamatórias  | Saúde | Diário Digital .::. Size~: 25.98 KBMar 26 00:02
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fewtty XFaCEMar 26 00:13
XFaCEI haven't gotten around to trying FUDuntu yetMar 26 00:14
XFaCE(j/k :) )Mar 26 00:14
fewtfudUNTU?Mar 26 00:14
fewt:)Mar 26 00:14
fewtFaking Unbelievably Delightful untuMar 26 00:15
*fewt lolsMar 26 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Stalker’s Diary from Russia ‹ SPARKY's Blog http://goo.gl/MSdsM cool stuff for #preppersMar 26 00:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stalker’s Diary from Russia ‹ SPARKY's Blog .::. Size~: 79.53 KBMar 26 00:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Like the dinosaurs humans are not important."Mar 26 00:20
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schestowitzfewt: I started linking to fubuntu stuff a while backMar 26 00:28
schestowitzBecause I trust you nowMar 26 00:28
fewtoh/Mar 26 00:28
fewtthanks :)Mar 26 00:28
schestowitzywMar 26 00:28
fewtI'm not the evil some people make me out to beMar 26 00:28
schestowitzlinsux people used to vandalise this channelMar 26 00:28
fewtaah I have no interest in that.Mar 26 00:28
schestowitzwe're wary of people associating with their siteMar 26 00:28
schestowitzone of them, Sean, is actually nice to me in disapora, we repost each others' stuffMar 26 00:29
fewtfair enoughMar 26 00:29
fewtcoolMar 26 00:29
scientesoh geezeMar 26 00:30
scienteswasn't that a long time agoMar 26 00:30
scientesi remember indeed howeverMar 26 00:30
scientesit was sooooo stupidMar 26 00:30
schestowitzwho?Mar 26 00:30
schestowitzthe vandals?Mar 26 00:30
scientesyesMar 26 00:30
schestowitzit's becauyse oif them that we have ops and permission to talkMar 26 00:30
schestowitzThat's why we started with itMar 26 00:30
cubezzzwhat vandals? Nothing has happened latelyMar 26 00:30
fewtoicMar 26 00:30
schestowitzno, months agoMar 26 00:30
scientesi mean, Linux is awesomeMar 26 00:30
scientesyears?Mar 26 00:31
scientesthats what i rememberMar 26 00:31
fewtLinux is Linux, sometimes it's awesome, and sometimes it sucksMar 26 00:31
fewt:)Mar 26 00:31
schestowitzscientes: not according to IDGMar 26 00:31
scienteswell of course, all technical things suckMar 26 00:31
scientesin that....they can be betterMar 26 00:31
schestowitztheir anti-Linux troll is now doing a "Linux is dead" articleMar 26 00:31
schestowitzperfect bait for hitsMar 26 00:31
scientes<schestowitz> their anti-Linux troll is now doing a "Linux is dead" articleMar 26 00:31
scientesHAHAHAHAHAMar 26 00:31
schestowitzand it's working, been a year since they last reused that article templateMar 26 00:31
scientesthat is the most rediculous thing i've heard all weekMar 26 00:31
fewtI don't think it'll make it on the desktop in the Canonical senseMar 26 00:32
fewtbut it's doing pretty darned well on phones, embedded devices, and servers.Mar 26 00:32
scientesi mean, i can "git pull" tons of new development EVERY DAYMar 26 00:32
schestowitzsamsung has just dived into ChromebooksMar 26 00:32
scientesor even, every few hoursMar 26 00:32
cubezzzLinux sucks LESSMar 26 00:32
cubezzz;-)Mar 26 00:32
scientes^^^Mar 26 00:32
scientestruthMar 26 00:32
cubezzzand openbsd is good tooMar 26 00:32
*fewt thinks all OSs suck equally.Mar 26 00:33
fewt:)Mar 26 00:33
cubezzzthey don't Mar 26 00:33
schestowitzcubezzz: Mar 26 00:33
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ less /selinuxMar 26 00:33
schestowitz/selinux is a directoryMar 26 00:33
cubezzzclosed source OSes suck hardMar 26 00:33
fewtdepends on the perspective, just like anything.Mar 26 00:33
schestowitzcubezzz: sounds kinkyMar 26 00:33
cubezzzthat's my perspectiveMar 26 00:33
fewtfair enough.Mar 26 00:33
schestowitzclosed source OSes don't swallowMar 26 00:34
fewtMine is - if you can't fix it and it's broken, it sucks.  This can apply to OSS that someone isn't technically capable of fixing, or closed source too.Mar 26 00:34
fewtanyway, just an opinion. :)Mar 26 00:34
fewtgots to run, the better half reminded me of my to-do list.Mar 26 00:35
fewtbblMar 26 00:35
cubezzzso how do you fix the closed source OS?Mar 26 00:35
schestowitzit can't be redeemedMar 26 00:35
schestowitzsee symbianMar 26 00:35
schestowitzwent closed againMar 26 00:35
schestowitzjust opening the closed is not enoughMar 26 00:35
schestowitzit's developed without audience, so it sucksMar 26 00:36
schestowitzdevelopers uner less scrutiny -> crap codeMar 26 00:36
cubezzzclosed kills the OS Mar 26 00:36
schestowitzthe PHBs don't 'get' the code anywayMar 26 00:36
schestowitzSo the code monkeys only get reviews by many a colleague and some soughnut-munching suitMar 26 00:36
schestowitz*doughnutMar 26 00:36
schestowitzif you develop meego, your coding buddies would ridicule you for crap codeMar 26 00:37
schestowitz!google win200 code leaks Mar 26 00:37
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schestowitzsee [1]Mar 26 00:37
cubezzzI don't want windows source code actuallyMar 26 00:38
cubezzzI'm pretty sure it's big-time bloatMar 26 00:39
sebsebsebcubezzz: heh hehMar 26 00:39
sebsebsebyeah probably loads of bugs in thereMar 26 00:39
sebsebsebthe kind of stuff they can get away with to, when it's closed, becauseMar 26 00:39
sebsebsebthe average end user won't know about itMar 26 00:39
cubezzzUGLY TERRIBLE HACKMar 26 00:39
sebsebsebas I was trying to explain to a taxi driver on SaturdayMar 26 00:40
sebsebsebwhat they do is make something that is good enough to sell and then sell itMar 26 00:40
sebsebsebwhere as with opensource/freesoftware it's made by people who really care about what they are makingMar 26 00:40
sebsebseband most as volunteersMar 26 00:40
cubezzzwell there's another problem...Mar 26 00:40
cubezzzwhich is why I started looking at Unix v7Mar 26 00:40
cubezzzthe code is so big you can't understand all of itMar 26 00:41
scientes<cubezzz> I don't want windows source code actuallyMar 26 00:42
scientes<cubezzz> I'm pretty sure it's big-time bloatMar 26 00:42
scientesi read a write up on someone that read the 200 leak onceMar 26 00:43
scientesand they basically said, 1. it's reasonably professional (i am SURE he was qualified to audit kernel code and the like....) but 2. it was clear that they sacrified alot trying to maintain compatibility with buggy legacy softwareMar 26 00:44
cubezzzI go through my old code a lotMar 26 00:44
scientesincluding software that misused APIsMar 26 00:44
cubezzzeach time I improve the commets a bit :)Mar 26 00:44
cubezzzcommentsMar 26 00:44
schestowitz[00:39] <sebsebseb> yeah probably loads of bugs in thereMar 26 00:44
schestowitzfor app compatibility :-)Mar 26 00:45
schestowitzand backlward-compatMar 26 00:45
schestowitz!google microsoft leap yearMar 26 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Yes, Microsoft Azure Was Downed By Leap-Year Bug | Wired ... | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/03/azure-leap-year-bug/Mar 26 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Microsoft Azure Stabilizes After Leap Year Glitch | PCWorld ... | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/251086/microsoft_azure_stabilizes_after_leap_year_glitch.htmlMar 26 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Microsoft Azure Leap Year Glitch: Key Lessons Learned - Cloud ... | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Cloud-Computing/Microsoft-Azure-LeapYear-Glitch-Key-Lessons-Learned-280164/Mar 26 00:45
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schestowitz!google ooxml leap yearMar 26 00:45
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TechrightsBot-tr[3] - OOXML leap-year bug unfix (Norbert Bollow's Comments on ... | http://adaptux.com/standards/ooxml-wg4-leap-year-bug-unfixMar 26 00:45
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - a 'mooh' point | All posts tagged 'OOXML' | http://idippedut.dk/%3Ftag%3D/OOXMLMar 26 00:45
sebsebsebyep Microsoft had issues with the leap year or wahteverMar 26 00:47
cubezzzSiegfried Idyll ... a very nice piece of musicMar 26 00:47
scientesyeah they define their bugs into the formatMar 26 00:47
scientesinstead of just fixing their damn bugsMar 26 00:48
cubezzzthey just make operating systems too voluminousMar 26 00:48
cubezzzit's just too big to find all the bugsMar 26 00:48
scientes"Proprietary software is alchemy, while FOSS is science"Mar 26 00:49
scientesI like that oneMar 26 00:49
cubezzzso I run openbsd with icewm... it's relatively smallMar 26 00:49
cubezzzso ask me... is Unix v7 well commented? :)Mar 26 00:53
cubezzztyping rl(0,0)unix gets old :-/Mar 26 00:55
cubezzzok, large chunks of v7 aren't commented at allMar 26 00:57
scientescubezzz, well-written code doesn't neccicarly need many commendsMar 26 00:59
scientes*commentsMar 26 00:59
scientesand if compiler were better at optimizing this would be even more trueMar 26 01:00
cubezzzscientes, large chunks have NO comments at allMar 26 01:01
cubezzznoneMar 26 01:01
scientescubezzz, what are suggesting? that we should all switch to UNIX v8?Mar 26 01:03
scientesCAUSE V7 DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH COMMENTS?Mar 26 01:03
scientesooo, sry bout capsMar 26 01:03
fewtcubezzz you asked how you fix closed source, I'd say the same way a non-technical person would get them fixed at Ubuntu.  Open a bug report and wait (possibly a long long time). ;)Mar 26 01:04
cubezzzI've never had a bug fixed because I reported it that I can rememberMar 26 01:06
fewtyou aren't a non-technical person either.Mar 26 01:06
cubezzzone thing that I do that does help is I keep a ton of different versions of thingsMar 26 01:07
fewtLooking at it from a non-tech perspective, that would be pretty sucky (that was my only point).Mar 26 01:07
cubezzzDEs, apps, entire OSesMar 26 01:07
cubezzzso if the new one borks up I can at least revert to the older versionMar 26 01:08
fewt+1Mar 26 01:08
fewtFOSS is still hard for non-technical people.  Some day it may not be.Mar 26 01:08
fewtWe only like to work on interesting things, bugs aren't interesting.  Those are work. hahMar 26 01:08
cubezzzI can save orphaned programs too that wayMar 26 01:09
fewtThough, I have spent a lot of time fixing bugs lately.Mar 26 01:09
cubezzzI can "port" and old KDE app for exampleMar 26 01:09
cubezzzmaintainer disappears... I save itMar 26 01:09
fewtI would like to have time for things like that.Mar 26 01:09
cubezzzwell it's a hobby, I research operating systemsMar 26 01:10
fewtfair enoughMar 26 01:10
fewtthat would be funMar 26 01:10
cubezzzit is funMar 26 01:10
fewtI used to be able to spend time doing stuff like that.Mar 26 01:10
cubezzzit is the weekend :)Mar 26 01:11
cubezzzparty time means study OS timeMar 26 01:11
fewtfor me it's for i in newer source; doMar 26 01:11
cubezzzI don't like xclock (too in-elegant) so I'm re-writing itMar 26 01:12
cubezzzthere's no time limit on stuff like that thoughMar 26 01:12
fewtcoolMar 26 01:12
cubezzzsource code sometimes disappears tooMar 26 01:13
cubezzzno one seems to have old KDE for exampleMar 26 01:13
cubezzzI was looking for krubikMar 26 01:13
cubezzzmight not compile on new KDE thoughMar 26 01:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have had an idea if you disagree with another government do everyting you can to undermine them including war, on no account talk to them.Mar 26 01:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456929Mar 26 01:21
schestowitz"100% of the computer in my house runs linux (Ubuntu)... 3 laptops for 3 different people... "Mar 26 01:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Observations on the growth of Linux use  http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/observations-on-growth-of-linux-use.html #gnu #linuxMar 26 01:21
schestowitzSame hereMar 26 01:21
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Observations on the growth of Linux use .::. Size~: 113.64 KBMar 26 01:21
schestowitzmore or lessMar 26 01:21
schestowitz3 linux machines, one linux voip applianceMar 26 01:22
schestowitz"#Samsung is a long-term sponsor of Enlightenment, by the way. That's one of the most interesting things about it to me. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTgwNw " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456729Mar 26 01:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Samsung Continues Sponsoring Enlightenment .::. Size~: 18.54 KBMar 26 01:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New #Enlightenment EFL Package Releases http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3NjQ #gnu #linuxMar 26 01:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @xavez ik met de Hawks. Ik kom sebiet mijn eigen wijk claimen!Mar 26 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @xavez Verdorie, je eigen kot als venue zetten is erover zeker? Anders zou ik met #Hawks wel mijn wijk http://ur1. ...Mar 26 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jenssegers @xavez @hannesvdvreken #winninglikeahawkMar 26 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MatHLa overmorgen bedoel je wellicht? Ik zal er zijnMar 26 01:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tmdpw @jenssegers Bij het Artevelde-team kwam gewoon een docent het team begeleiden. Dat zijn pas docenten ;)Mar 26 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jensdehaese Gebruiken jullie puppet om dat te managen? Iets anders?Mar 26 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @okfnbe: #AppsForGhent student competition winners accept @okfn and @itpocket mobile student job awa http://ur1. ...Mar 26 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @GiovanniPysson: Winnend studenten team #themissingh zullen snel een responsive website maken met ve http://ur1. ...Mar 26 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @dretio: Winners of our "@bitsoflove visualisation award" were @vormplus and the KU Leuven team of @ http://ur1. ...Mar 26 01:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @DanielEllsberg: Thanks for having me on! RT @Judgenap: @DanielEllsberg on Leaking the Government’s Secrets: http://fxn.ws/9zJoInMar 26 02:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Great WikiLeaks poster by @SommersetBean https://t.co/2HCpsOYqMar 26 02:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Is it just me? My server works - fine until I go away for the weekend; that's when it fails. So much for posting remotely :(Mar 26 03:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Another Bonnier Sunday in Sweden | rixstepnews @dn http://t.co/6EQ6DbwX #svpol #auspolMar 26 04:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This week's !InconstantMoon special feature ~ Jake's profile page ~ is online http://www.ur1.ca/8t2h8 !selfPubMar 26 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @evan "Free software is something we must make available to all humans, regardless of privilege." Too true. #lp2012Mar 26 04:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @cwebber ~"We need to make sure free software is available to all people, not just the people who are like us."Mar 26 04:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @evan "Free software is something we must make available to all humans, regardless of privilege." Too true. #lp2012Mar 26 04:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lstench WHAT A DAD!!Mar 26 05:49
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scientes$ \time trueMar 26 06:20
scientes0.00user 0.00system 0:00.00elapsed 0%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 1600maxresident)kMar 26 06:20
scientes72inputs+0outputs (1major+144minor)pagefaults 0swapsMar 26 06:20
scientes144 minor page faults, for true!!!!!!!!!!Mar 26 06:20
scientesWTFMar 26 06:20
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DaemonFChttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111205135926AAMCsc8Mar 26 06:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is it illegal to give someone mono on purpose? - Yahoo! Answers .::. Size~: 54.3 KBMar 26 06:34
MinceR:)Mar 26 06:35
MinceR"it is, if you don't have a patent license that you can legally give to them along with it"Mar 26 06:37
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/business/news/2012/03/aol-may-sell-off-some-of-its-patents.ars?clicked=related_rightMar 26 06:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AOL may sell off some of its 800 patents for cash .::. Size~: 34.26 KBMar 26 06:38
prurigrololMar 26 06:39
prurigroeveryone has monoMar 26 06:39
prurigrowell, most peopleMar 26 06:39
prurigroits a member of the herpes virus and sticks with people for life once they have itMar 26 06:40
prurigronow you should all be asking whether I'm talking about biology or computers...Mar 26 06:40
prurigro:)Mar 26 06:40
MinceRwell, the mono that infects computers isn't herpesMar 26 06:41
prurigrololMar 26 06:41
prurigroit spreads like it is ;)Mar 26 06:42
prurigrofun fact: chicken pox is also herpesMar 26 06:42
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DaemonFChttp://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=301646Mar 26 06:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: banshee-2.2.1-4.fc17 | Build Info | Koji .::. Size~: 24.34 KBMar 26 06:43
DaemonFCherpes for allMar 26 06:45
DaemonFCunder the Herpes Public LicenseMar 26 06:45
DaemonFCHerpes for kids, herpes for old peopleMar 26 06:45
DaemonFCherpes for mom and dadMar 26 06:45
DaemonFCherpes for grandmaMar 26 06:45
DaemonFCherpes is for everyoneMar 26 06:45
DaemonFCcoming soon to youMar 26 06:46
prurigrololMar 26 06:47
prurigroyou must spread this to everyone you come in direct contact withMar 26 06:48
prurigroand you must ensure they cannot uninstall monoMar 26 06:48
prurigrobtw, open source web technologies, compliments of the canadian government http://ircan-rican.gc.ca/projects/gcwwwtemplates/wiki/Download_WET_features?&lang=enMar 26 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Web Experience Toolkit (WET) - Intellectual Resources Canada .::. Size~: 93.57 KBMar 26 06:48
DaemonFCDependencies ResolvedMar 26 06:57
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DaemonFCInstalling:Mar 26 06:57
DaemonFC cinnamon        x86_64        1.4.0-2.fc17        fedora-cinnamon        1.2 MMar 26 06:57
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DaemonFC muffin          x86_64        1.0.2-1.fc17        fedora                 1.1 MMar 26 06:57
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DaemonFCInstall  1 Package (+1 Dependent package)Mar 26 06:57
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DaemonFCIs this ok [y/N]: Mar 26 06:57
DaemonFC:DMar 26 06:57
MinceR"herpes." "herpes." "herpes. your turn!"Mar 26 06:57
DaemonFCthat's not too badMar 26 06:57
DaemonFCbrbMar 26 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good morning @kevie !tzagMar 26 07:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: Awareness of surroundings: geolocation api, device orientation #widsMar 26 07:29
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DaemonFCI'm still hacking on my themeMar 26 07:33
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DaemonFChttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/645/screenshotfrom201203260.pngMar 26 07:46
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DaemonFCgetting thereMar 26 07:54
DaemonFChttp://nale12.deviantart.com/art/OMG-Suite-288398137Mar 26 07:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OMG_Suite by ~nale12 on deviantART .::. Size~: 119.71 KBMar 26 07:58
DaemonFCprurigro, I'm filing bugs left and right on GNOMEMar 26 07:59
DaemonFCI probably have more debuginfos than programs installed at this pointMar 26 07:59
prurigroDaemonFC, haha, yea? what are you finding?Mar 26 08:02
prurigronice background btw, though you should use projectm for visualizer ;)Mar 26 08:03
prurigro(there's a version that works through pulseaudio)Mar 26 08:03
DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69611-Will-H-264-Codec-Support-Come-To-Fedora-Nope&p=255800#post255800Mar 26 08:03
DaemonFC:)Mar 26 08:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will H.264 Codec Support Come To Fedora? Nope. - Page 7 .::. Size~: 68.69 KBMar 26 08:03
DaemonFCprurigro, I've gotten the shell to crash several times and reported bugs on thatMar 26 08:03
DaemonFCEpiphany grashes with the OMG Suite GTK theme applied when you type something into the location barMar 26 08:04
DaemonFCRhythmbox collapsed a few timesMar 26 08:04
DaemonFCXChat-GNOME bailed on me twiceMar 26 08:04
DaemonFCand I even worked in a bug report on an extension that claims it works with GNOME 3.3.92 and crashes the shellMar 26 08:04
prurigroempathy has crashed the shell for meMar 26 08:05
prurigroepiphany has been pretty good thoughMar 26 08:05
prurigroxchat-gnome I guess is a fedora build?Mar 26 08:06
prurigrosweet though, sounds like you're helping getting gnome to a better spot :)Mar 26 08:06
DaemonFC    Spending $64.47 per user on patent licenses for something they give away freely isn't going to happen.Mar 26 08:06
DaemonFC    You're more than welcome to buy them for yourself.Mar 26 08:06
DaemonFC    http://www.fluendo.com/Mar 26 08:06
DaemonFC    Or you can just use RPM Fusion like everyone else does and shut up. Mar 26 08:06
DaemonFC    Last edited by DaemonFC; 03-26-2012 at 03:06 AM. Reason: Corrected the price. For codecs and the DVD player Mar 26 08:06
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DaemonFC:)Mar 26 08:06
DaemonFC$64.47 is pretty close to the price of an OEM copy of Windows that comes with those codecs and a DVD playerMar 26 08:07
DaemonFCprurigro, Debug Infos are hugeMar 26 08:08
DaemonFCbut they provide much more useful crash data than ABRT gives without themMar 26 08:08
DaemonFCif you file bugs without a retrace, they'll usually just close them with need more informationMar 26 08:09
DaemonFCFedora has a retrace server but when something like your web browser crashes, the core dump is so large that their retrace server refuses to take itMar 26 08:09
DaemonFCso you end up needing debug infos and gdbMar 26 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] end of day for me... good night !identiverse !tzafMar 26 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Chromebook May Get Cheaper, To Run On ARM Chips http://ur1.ca/8t48s #linux #chromeMar 26 08:10
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DaemonFChttp://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?69611-Will-H-264-Codec-Support-Come-To-Fedora-Nope&p=255802#post255802Mar 26 08:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will H.264 Codec Support Come To Fedora? Nope. - Page 7 .::. Size~: 77.88 KBMar 26 08:12
DaemonFCLogging into Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.comMar 26 08:16
DaemonFCChecking for duplicatesMar 26 08:16
DaemonFCCreating a new bugMar 26 08:16
DaemonFCNew bug id: 806751Mar 26 08:16
DaemonFCAdding attachments to bug 806751Mar 26 08:16
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DaemonFCLogging outMar 26 08:17
DaemonFCStatus: NEW https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806751Mar 26 08:17
DaemonFC:)Mar 26 08:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug 806751 – [abrt] epiphany-3.3.92-1.fc17: Process /usr/bin/epiphany was killed by signal 8 (SIGFPE) .::. Size~: 55.25 KBMar 26 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Three in race for post of Debian leader http://ur1.ca/8t4c4 #debian #gnu #linuxMar 26 08:22
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prurigroDaemonFC, so how have you liked gnome3 after getting used to it? I see you tweaked it up a bitMar 26 08:23
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806715Mar 26 08:23
prurigrodid you surf around extensions.gnome.org yet?Mar 26 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bug 806715 – [abrt] gnome-shell-3.3.92-1.fc17: g_logv: Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP) .::. Size~: 51.85 KBMar 26 08:23
DaemonFC:)Mar 26 08:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exploring the Free world of numerical computation tools http://ur1.ca/8t4cf #gnu #science #freedomMar 26 08:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : States / Karnataka : Exploring the Free world of numerical computation tools .::. Size~: 55.58 KBMar 26 08:24
DaemonFCprurigro, It's alrightMar 26 08:24
DaemonFCkind of sucks that Epiphany won't work with this theme appliedMar 26 08:24
DaemonFCI kind of like the new version of thatMar 26 08:24
prurigroI like it for its ability to make a web-appMar 26 08:25
prurigrothe rest is fairly generic though-- anything fun you noticed that I should be paying attention to? or do you just like the simplicity?Mar 26 08:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A New BFS "Smoking" Scheduler For Linux 3.3 http://ur1.ca/8t4d7 #linux #bfsMar 26 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] A New BFS "Smoking" Scheduler For Linux 3.3 .::. Size~: 17.76 KBMar 26 08:27
DaemonFCI like that performance has improved since 3.2 and that when I close Empathy it stays running as part of the shell and doesn't do weird things like not allow my to bring the contact list back up.Mar 26 08:28
DaemonFCI noticed a lot of weird things in 3.2Mar 26 08:28
prurigrooh wait, this is gnome 3.4?Mar 26 08:29
prurigroand wait, didn't empathy always stay running as part of the shell?Mar 26 08:30
prurigroor do you mean there's an actual connectivity setup for it now/Mar 26 08:30
prurigro?Mar 26 08:30
DaemonFCprurigro, in 3.2, you could close Empathy and it did stay running but there was no way to get your contact list to show up againMar 26 08:31
DaemonFCso if you closed that you had to use kill to get it to stop and let you launch it againMar 26 08:32
DaemonFCI just closed two of my older bugs.Mar 26 08:32
prurigroohh yea, you had to hold control when you clicked on it in the left barMar 26 08:32
prurigrohow does it work now?Mar 26 08:32
DaemonFCboth issues were fixed upstream for a while nowMar 26 08:32
prurigrohow does it work?Mar 26 08:33
DaemonFCclicking on the empathy icon brings up your contacts listMar 26 08:33
prurigroand what about the chat window?Mar 26 08:33
DaemonFCbut you're always logged in even when the list window isn't openMar 26 08:33
DaemonFCbecause it's part of the shellMar 26 08:33
prurigroyea, via that menu in the top right ehMar 26 08:33
DaemonFCand if someone messages you, the message window is part of the shell if the contact list isn't openMar 26 08:34
prurigroyea, that'd be the same as 3.2Mar 26 08:34
DaemonFCyou can reply to them or even carry on an entire conversation without opening your contacts listMar 26 08:34
prurigrolike via the notifications area + clicking to bring up the window?Mar 26 08:35
DaemonFCthe chat window is in the bottom right, there's an icon for the person you're talking toMar 26 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner !fsfe !fellowship interview with !freesoftware hacker Guido Günther .@agx http://ur1.ca/8t4c0 #Debian #Gnome #MIPS #virtua ...Mar 26 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Shadow Bailout: How Big Banks Bilk US Towns and Taxpayers http://ur1.ca/8t4fj #us #whitecollarMar 26 08:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fellowship Interview with Guido Günther «  Fellowship Interviews .::. Size~: 23.78 KBMar 26 08:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Shadow Bailout: How Big Banks Bilk US Towns and Taxpayers | Common Dreams .::. Size~: 78.12 KBMar 26 08:35
DaemonFCit's not actually a window, it's a dialog box in the shellMar 26 08:35
prurigroit doesn't pop up into a tabbed window anymore?Mar 26 08:35
prurigroif you click on the person you're talking to?Mar 26 08:35
DaemonFCit might, but that isn't how I've been using itMar 26 08:36
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DaemonFCthey made some changes to the shell, shell themes need to be updated or the Applications section will look weird if you use an older themeMar 26 08:36
DaemonFCI might go digging into one of them and see if I can modify it myselfMar 26 08:37
DaemonFCI might see about applying other GTK themes and seeing if I can get something to mess up under the othersMar 26 08:38
prurigrocan you finally browse the application list with the arrow keys?Mar 26 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Watching Distrowatch http://ur1.ca/8t4gy #linuxmint doing very wellMar 26 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwebber: "Free sw is not just something for just people here today. [it] must be something available to *all* people." mgarrett #lp2012Mar 26 08:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Watching Distrowatch at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 34.49 KBMar 26 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Food Stamp Use in L.A. Pauses At the Million Mark, Awaiting Oil’s Next Move http://ur1.ca/8t4hr #la #finance #usMar 26 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Feels like summer in England these days. Hottest weekend on record for this time of the year. Over 23 degrees in Surrey.Mar 26 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Study does not take accounts of vulnerable proprietary/closed source components http://ur1.ca/8t4iu not exclusively a FOSS issueMar 26 08:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Study: More than 50% of Global 500 use vulnerable open source components | ZDNet .::. Size~: 124.5 KBMar 26 08:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Newsflash: FOSS - like proprietary software - has complications associated with licensing, security, bugs, stability; high male/female ratioMar 26 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] OPENBYTES: Operation Student – Microsoft tries to drum up interest in the ailing WP7? http://goo.gl/MCoZm #microsoft #wp7 #android #appleMar 26 08:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458890Mar 26 08:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Feels like summer in England these days. Hottest weekend on record for this time of the year. Over 23 degrees in Surrey.Mar 26 08:54
schestowitz"Nice, but could do with a bit of rain! "Mar 26 08:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Rivalry is the spice that thickens the soccer broth, violence is the venom that poisons it. Keep up the rivalry,kick out the violence!Mar 26 08:57
DaemonFCEpiphany tells websites it is chromeMar 26 08:57
prurigrosmart hahaMar 26 08:57
DaemonFCit leaves Safari out of its UAMar 26 08:57
prurigroyea, screw safariMar 26 08:58
DaemonFCRekonq has Safari in its nameMar 26 09:00
DaemonFCmost sites treat it as SafariMar 26 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] I haven't written an article in a while, but whats happened to Wordpress? The latest design of its web UI is godawful..boo!Mar 26 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Replied on the SFL one from 26/2/12. Any others?Mar 26 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger - http://bit.ly/GPXCoW really, #microsoft? #censorshipMar 26 09:07
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prurigroDaemonFC, apparently rekonq, while better has been increasingly unstable?Mar 26 09:09
DaemonFCyeah, you hardly have to do anything to get it to crashMar 26 09:11
DaemonFCas of 0.9Mar 26 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BodhiLinux 1.4.0 Review http://ur1.ca/8t4on #ubuntuMar 26 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Secrecy by default - the issue with the #NHS risk register - http://bit.ly/GRcsvH scandalous: where's that openness, Dave? (v @webmink)Mar 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ireland's Largest ISP Wants Country-Wide Three-Strikes Piracy Response http://goo.gl/m0eFEMar 26 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ORG Zine | Secrecy by default - the issue with the NHS risk register .::. Size~: 16.15 KBMar 26 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ireland’s Largest ISP Wants Country-Wide Three-Strikes Piracy Response                                                         |  paidContent .::. Size~: 45.39 KBMar 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why accelerate discovery? reasons why we need #openaccess now - http://bit.ly/H3uOmr indeed: we don't have the luxury of timeMar 26 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #China Unblocks Sensitive Keywords - http://bit.ly/GRFCKf interesting times in the Middle Kingdom #censorshipMar 26 09:15
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: China Unblocks Sensitive Keywords - Slashdot .::. Size~: 221.14 KBMar 26 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Meet Vivaldi: It’s Got A Real “Spark” For Open-Source! http://ur1.ca/8t4q4 #kdeMar 26 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Email [1] @ThatRahmaMar 26 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Meet Vivaldi: It's Got A Real "Spark" For Open-Source! .::. Size~: 46.55 KBMar 26 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] We're in the process of building #Techrights #Canada http://ur1.ca/8t4qwMar 26 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Here's a nice place to catch up with your StatusNets. Easy on your eyes,processor and bandwidth >> d.mylu.us @eebrahMar 26 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techrights Canada - Techrights .::. Size~: 20.75 KBMar 26 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Install #Steam on #Linux easily http://ur1.ca/8t4rwMar 26 09:22
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prurigroDaemonFC, so gnome3 vs unity now that gnome3 is 3.4?Mar 26 09:22
DaemonFCthis round goes to GNOMEMar 26 09:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458912Mar 26 09:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Newsflash: FOSS - like proprietary software - has complications associated with licensing, security, bugs, stability; has high male/female ratioMar 26 09:23
schestowitz"why newsflash? this is a know fact right? "Mar 26 09:23
DaemonFCUnity is a lot slower and they have a lot of patches and hacks, and I don't like CompizMar 26 09:24
schestowitz"newsflash" was a jokeMar 26 09:24
prurigroschestowitz, complications associated with security bugs and stability?Mar 26 09:24
prurigroDaemonFC, word, that's kinda my feeling too-- even with 3.2 in comparisonMar 26 09:25
*prurigro gives voice to DaemonFCMar 26 09:25
*prurigro gives voice to Diablo-D3Mar 26 09:25
*prurigro gives voice to scientesMar 26 09:25
DaemonFCGNOME 3.4's performance has gone up a lotMar 26 09:26
MinceRlol @ newsflashMar 26 09:26
DaemonFClooks to be because of improvements to clutterMar 26 09:26
prurigroDaemonFC, maybe I didn't notice the performance issues before because I'm using archMar 26 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #eircom Wants Country-Wide Three-Strikes Piracy Response - http://bit.ly/H8SV6K serving your customers (on a plate), huh? (v @copyrightgirl)Mar 26 09:27
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prurigrothe only thing that's a little slow is the app search on my laptop (still quite speedy), which isn't an issue on my desktop thanks to an SSDMar 26 09:27
DaemonFCif your window manager can't maintain 50-60 fps, there's something horribly wrong with either it or your GPU or video driversMar 26 09:28
DaemonFCor any or all of the aboveMar 26 09:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pierre Boulez as Composer & Mahler Conductor - http://bit.ly/GQ0wdz nice & light for a monday morning </cough> #spotifyMar 26 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Battleship trailer to raise #copyright awareness - http://bit.ly/GQjT0H "you wouldn't steal a battleship..."Mar 26 09:30
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prurigroDaemonFC, hmm any way to benchmark that you know of? its quite silky smooth on both my desktop (nouveau) and laptop (intel), but I can't say for sure that its 60fpsMar 26 09:31
MinceRi'd download a battleshipMar 26 09:31
DaemonFCMinceR, excellent choice, and I'd download an attack submarine with nuclear torpedoesMar 26 09:32
DaemonFCnow what?Mar 26 09:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kickstarter to fund development of #Arduino-based, browser-controlled open source hardware automated gardening dome - http://bit.ly/H7q0xbMar 26 09:32
DaemonFC:)Mar 26 09:32
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MinceRDaemonFC: i'd download sharks with fucking lasersMar 26 09:32
DaemonFCI'd download sharks with nuclear torpedoes Mar 26 09:33
DaemonFCB-)Mar 26 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prometheus bound: An important precedent for the next software patent case - http://red.ht/GQkbVc upbeat assessment #swpatsMar 26 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This just showed up on my radar >> "Mwadime: Sisi wa Taita tunafaa tukuwe na Tribal Alliance bana.. itaitwa TATA (Taita Taveta)"Mar 26 09:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This just showed up on my radar >> "@Mwadime: Sisi wa Taita tunafaa tukuwe na Tribal Alliance bana.. itaitwa TATA (Taita Taveta)"Mar 26 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Is #Xbox the new center of the #Microsoft universe? - http://zd.net/H3LRdk obviously: it's the only part that isn't moribundMar 26 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Department For #ACTA - http://bit.ly/GRIvei come on, #australia - you've got to fight this (and #tpp)Mar 26 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] On the real though, think booze is the only thing us guys would coalesce around @Mwadime #TATAMar 26 09:37
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxALonF9p-k&list=UUjNxszyFPasDdRoD9J6X-sw&index=1&feature=plcpMar 26 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging - http://bit.ly/GSjBoY au contraire, it's the basis of civilisation: not re-inventing the wheelMar 26 09:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Don't Steal Ideas, It Is Discouraging .::. Size~: 8.37 KBMar 26 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Shit gets real.... >> "@PhilipOgola: THUGS USE DYNAMITE TO STEAL at #MPESA SHOP bit.ly/GQhbIF"Mar 26 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #RaspberryPi designer hints at future version - http://bit.ly/H3Nibz excitingMar 26 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: The Department For #ACTA - http://bit.ly/GRIvei come on, #australia - you've got to fight this (and #tpp)Mar 26 09:42
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schestowitzprurigro: yeahMar 26 09:43
DaemonFCBanshee 2.2 is still the version Fedora is packagingMar 26 09:43
DaemonFCbut thanks to Mono, it has 150 MB of dependenciesMar 26 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 25/3/2012: Bodhi Linux 1.4.0, Many Vivaldi Orders http://ur1.ca/8t4yq #techrightsMar 26 09:44
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MinceRdon't install it, thenMar 26 09:44
DaemonFChttp://www.gnome.org/applications/Mar 26 09:45
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DaemonFCthey still recommend itMar 26 09:45
DaemonFC:)Mar 26 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mapping the Republic of Letters - http://bit.ly/GTGKuH cool: epistolary graph theoryMar 26 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #Tories are no closer to shaking the taint of privilege issue http://gu.com/p/36dqmMar 26 09:45
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DaemonFCwhat is the "done thing" on GNOME these days that doesn't involve Rhythmbox or Banshee?Mar 26 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Party Wins in Saarland Elections, Enters Parliament - http://bit.ly/H9TBYb political landscape continues to shift dramaticallyMar 26 09:49
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MinceRi still don't recommend gnome :>Mar 26 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nature Publishing Group - When are you going to live up to your promises about "free" genome papers? - http://bit.ly/H5dkI7 shoddy #opengateMar 26 09:50
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prurigroMinceR, how much have you used gnome?Mar 26 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google ordered to close search autocomplete feature in #Japan over privacy complaint - http://tnw.co/GQW1K4 overreaction much?Mar 26 09:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Thanks :) also, how did you know that?Mar 26 09:57
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MinceRprurigro: didn't keep track of itMar 26 09:57
prurigroMinceR, well then you shouldn't recommend it, since you haven't used it ;) though the way you said you still don't recommend it made it sound like you recommend people not to use itMar 26 09:58
MinceRwell, i don't :>Mar 26 09:58
MinceRand i have used itMar 26 09:59
MinceRjust not for long each timeMar 26 09:59
prurigrohow much and when?Mar 26 09:59
MinceRa couple months around 2000, i guess, then for shorter times when installing some distro, since they usually use gnome by defaultMar 26 09:59
MinceRthere was also a span of a few months when i used it because it was the easiest way to use compizMar 26 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Promusicae me denuncia por infracción a su honor - http://bit.ly/H4OCc8 *honor*??? (v @SinkDeep)Mar 26 10:00
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prurigroMinceR, 2000 was gnome 1.x iircMar 26 10:00
MinceRyesMar 26 10:01
MinceRit was better than later versions tooMar 26 10:01
prurigroand compiz was def via gnome2Mar 26 10:01
MinceRyesMar 26 10:01
prurigrognome 1.x I could not standMar 26 10:01
prurigrognome2 got good near the endMar 26 10:01
MinceRand i've used gnome3 when i was setting up fedora 15Mar 26 10:01
prurigrognome3 is completely differentMar 26 10:01
prurigrofedora 15 woulda been gnome 3.0Mar 26 10:01
prurigrowhich wasn't horrible, but its improved a lot since thenMar 26 10:01
MinceRafaik the main issues are still thereMar 26 10:02
prurigroand I feel like you can't really get a good gauge as to whether you like it unless you've used it for a week or moreMar 26 10:02
prurigrowhich main issues?Mar 26 10:02
MinceRwell, i'm not going to use gnome3 for a weekMar 26 10:02
MinceRinflexibility, dumbing down, no setup for what happens if you close the laptop lidMar 26 10:02
prurigrolaptop lid settings came in 3.2, they also existed in 2.x at least by the time I got a laptopMar 26 10:03
MinceRit's just not going in the direction i think modern desktop/laptop GUI needs to be going inMar 26 10:03
prurigro(well my second laptop-- first was used for kde3)Mar 26 10:03
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MinceR(which is also true for unity and kde4)Mar 26 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big Brother Watch is looking for an "intern" (do we have such things in the UK?) - http://bit.ly/H5fuYj #privacy #civillibertiesMar 26 10:04
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prurigroand there are a shit ton of settings, all of which start in gconf-editor (and now dconf-editor for gnome3 stuff) with some of that extended to the user friendly config dialogs, and more with each releaseMar 26 10:04
prurigrowith some that*Mar 26 10:05
prurigroit also has a javascript extensions setup, where if you're technically competent, you can essentially do anything you want with the desktopMar 26 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Disarm the Gallery - http://bit.ly/H4PDkq is the National Gallery in bed with arms dealers? oh, the nobility of art...Mar 26 10:05
MinceRalso, i don't like the idea of "here's the new stable main release of your DE, it will be useless for a while, but trust us, we'll fix it eventually before we break it again!"Mar 26 10:05
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prurigro3.0 was far from useless-- aside from a few stability and usability issues that got cleared up to some extent in 3.2 (there were still more of course), most of the 'missing features' were available if you knew how to open dconf-editor, select the feature and change the option from thatMar 26 10:07
prurigro3.2 contained even more configuration in dconf-editor, and more of what was previously exclusive to dconf (the laptop lid thing for example) copied out to the user friendly control panel tooMar 26 10:07
DaemonFCcalling something stable just to lure in people to crash it for you is what everyone seems to do nowMar 26 10:07
prurigrognome 3.0 didn't crash once on me the entire time I used it (basically up until 3.2 came out)Mar 26 10:08
prurigroI never changed the default theme on that noteMar 26 10:08
prurigrowhich seems to have some issuesMar 26 10:08
prurigro(for gtk)Mar 26 10:09
MinceRnot sure about the stability of gnome 3.0, but it was pretty broken featurewiseMar 26 10:09
MinceRin general, i'm very much content with lack of useless bling if the alternative is occasional severe brokennessMar 26 10:11
prurigroMinceR, what feature was missing exactly?Mar 26 10:11
MinceRthe laptop lid thing was the one i'm aware ofMar 26 10:11
prurigrothat existedMar 26 10:11
MinceRiirc the window titlebars could be fixed in 3.0 alreadyMar 26 10:11
prurigroyou just didn't get a nice configuration tooltip for itMar 26 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Letter to European Parliament Civil Liberties Committee on #ACTA - http://bit.ly/H4Rsxy good stuffMar 26 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Community VS Business Group? Look at the comparison of W3C groups (WG, IG, CG, BG) http://ping.fm/tLY3jMar 26 10:14
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DaemonFC--- Running report_Bugzilla ---Mar 26 10:15
DaemonFCLogging into Bugzilla at https://bugzilla.redhat.comMar 26 10:15
DaemonFCChecking for duplicatesMar 26 10:15
DaemonFCCreating a new bugMar 26 10:15
DaemonFCNew bug id: 806794Mar 26 10:15
DaemonFCAdding attachments to bug 806794Mar 26 10:15
prurigroMinceR, the reason I'm debating this is because everyone always brings up these issues, and they weren't the case aside from initially, not being easily searchableMar 26 10:15
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DaemonFCStatus: NEW https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806794Mar 26 10:15
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MinceRprurigro: they're merely expressions of an underlying problem that's been present since gnome 2.xMar 26 10:15
MinceRthe "remove/hide this thing so it won't confuse the user" thingMar 26 10:16
MinceRalso, the "let's make it like macos" thing (the two are related)Mar 26 10:16
prurigroI'm not convinced they 'remove/hide' things-- they always fill their user friendly config dialogs with an increasing amount of settings as time goes on, and I believe they're simply being careful about how to lay that end of things outMar 26 10:17
MinceRand this underlying problem is why i don't recommend gnomeMar 26 10:17
MinceRwell, read up on the print dialog drama :>Mar 26 10:17
prurigroif anything, I'd say initially, gnome 2 and gnome 3 have been more tailored to advanced users, or users being administered by someone elseMar 26 10:18
prurigroand then as they gain point releases, things become easier for the more basic usersMar 26 10:18
prurigroI wasn't using linux quite yet when gnome 1 came out, so I can't really comment about itMar 26 10:20
MinceRthat's not my experienceMar 26 10:22
prurigrohow not?Mar 26 10:22
MinceRsee aboveMar 26 10:22
prurigrothat was my response to aboveMar 26 10:23
MinceRit seems to be quite the antithesis for "advanced users"Mar 26 10:23
MinceRgnome 1.x, on the other hand, was generally a more featureful but slower KDE cloneMar 26 10:23
MinceR(also, more free at the time)Mar 26 10:23
prurigroadvanced users know how to open up dconf-editor and configure settings without fun tooltips and whatnotMar 26 10:23
MinceR(though i think the QPL issue was already cleared up when i started using it)Mar 26 10:23
prurigroadvanced users can take advantage (in gnome 3) of a complex and powerful javascript framework that can change just about anything they want about their experienceMar 26 10:24
DaemonFCsomeone suggested Fedora Hitler should be the codename for the next releaseMar 26 10:25
prurigroless advanced users aren't comfortable doing either of these things, and end up seeing the lack of initial options in the user friendly 'system settings' area as why gnome has taken the power from the power userMar 26 10:25
DaemonFCbecause Hitler has given us systemd, pulseaudio, and GNOME 3Mar 26 10:25
prurigrolol, lets give mono to stalin thenMar 26 10:26
prurigromentioned far less, but so much more evilMar 26 10:26
MinceRDaemonFC: lolMar 26 10:26
MinceRprurigro: so, codename "Sneaky Stalin"? :>Mar 26 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah @mralanorth @fredmanglies On IRC. #nairobilugMar 26 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah @mralanorth @fredmanglis On IRC. #nairobilugMar 26 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Anna Morris from FSFE's Manchester Fellowship group interviewed on BBC Radio's "Outriders" http://ur1.ca/8t59m (starts at 17')Mar 26 10:27
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prurigrolol, sounds good-- and his target? paint.monoMar 26 10:27
prurigro:(Mar 26 10:27
prurigroMinceR, any thoughts on the gnome topic btw?Mar 26 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] FSFE urges EU Parliament staff to reject Microsoft 'bribe' (Computerworld UK) http://ur1.ca/8t5a0Mar 26 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Off your client? #ircMar 26 10:29
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MinceRprurigro: i've already stated themMar 26 10:30
prurigroI stated my counter argument to those thoughMar 26 10:30
MinceRi disagree thoughMar 26 10:31
MinceRjust because the power user can hack some parts of it to make it behave like it should doesn't mean they're catering to the power userMar 26 10:32
MinceRjust that they haven't destroyed all advanced functionality yet :>Mar 26 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten Anna Morris from FSFE's Manchester Fellowship group interviewed on BBC Radio's "Outriders" http://ur1.ca/8t59m (starts at 17')Mar 26 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @karsten FSFE urges EU Parliament staff to reject Microsoft 'bribe' (Computerworld UK) http://ur1.ca/8t5a0Mar 26 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma back on IRCMar 26 10:32
prurigrothe functionality is not based in hacks thoughMar 26 10:32
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prurigrodconf-editor is a configuration editor, its just not lay'd out in the friendliest manner possibleMar 26 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] καλημερα καλημεραMar 26 10:34
prurigroand while extensions are slightly more hackish than configuration, it means once the advanced users configure things how they want, they can post their extensions for others to install in a relatively secure modification environmentMar 26 10:34
MinceRhiding settings in a "configuration editor" makes that seem like an understatementMar 26 10:34
prurigrothey're not hidden thoughMar 26 10:34
prurigrothe gnome devs slowly pull them out into their actual dialogs-- it just takes a lot more work to set things up in a user friendly way than it does to simply have the config option, and they seem to slowly add options to the other dialog as they make releasesMar 26 10:35
prurigrowhich is why I was saying things are a bit more tailored to advanced users at the startMar 26 10:36
prurigrowho can navigate less friendly dialogs, or write extensionsMar 26 10:36
prurigrolater on extensions exist and the dialogs are pulled into the user friendly sectionMar 26 10:36
prurigromeaning less competent users can make their way overMar 26 10:37
prurigroits not cateringMar 26 10:38
prurigroits just more appropriate for the power userMar 26 10:38
prurigroin the beginningMar 26 10:38
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prurigrothat nuance might be the source of disagreement in that respectMar 26 10:38
MinceRthere's also the fact that they copied and started conforming to the user-hostile crApple HIG around 2.xMar 26 10:39
MinceRhence the randomized button order in dialogs and stuffMar 26 10:39
prurigrowell that's something you have to live with using gnome apps, not just in gnomeMar 26 10:40
prurigrowhat was used before/is used in kde btw? uxtheme?Mar 26 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] More about #gnutelephony at #lp2012 http://ur1.ca/8t5cjMar 26 10:40
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prurigroor rather, ux in general I guess technicallyMar 26 10:40
MinceRyes, unfortunately that also affects gnome appsMar 26 10:41
MinceRi don't know what you mean by "uxtheme"Mar 26 10:41
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prurigroux is the microsoft HID guidelinesMar 26 10:41
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prurigroI might have it in pdf somewhere...Mar 26 10:42
MinceRi don't know if KDE has official HIGMar 26 10:42
prurigrowouldn't it do well to form one then?Mar 26 10:42
MinceRbut i suspect that even the crap m$ comes up with is less user-hostile than crApple'sMar 26 10:42
MinceR(certainly they don't have random button orders and global menu bars)Mar 26 10:42
MinceRnot sureMar 26 10:42
prurigroit was mostly logical from what I recall (ux)Mar 26 10:43
prurigroapple seems logical in a more minimalist kinda wayMar 26 10:43
MinceRcould be Common User AccessMar 26 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Policja na Przychodni! ♻ @ElbaZostaje: Na przychodni jest nas coraz wiecej...nie dajemy sie!Mar 26 10:44
MinceRyes, crApple is minimally logicalMar 26 10:44
prurigroboth can end up out of controlMar 26 10:44
MinceRwhatever makes the least sense is in thereMar 26 10:44
prurigroapple skipping features that could have been usefulMar 26 10:44
prurigromicrosoft can end up with a config dialog covered in tabsMar 26 10:44
MinceRoh noes, tabsMar 26 10:44
prurigrostacked tabsMar 26 10:44
prurigroits just messy and hard to navigateMar 26 10:45
MinceRactually crApple uses tabs in what passes for a config dialog thereMar 26 10:45
MinceRit's kind of funnyMar 26 10:45
MinceRthere's nothing in the dialog, but it's still tabbedMar 26 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @karsten: FSFE urges EU Parliament staff to reject Microsoft 'bribe' (Computerworld UK) http://ur1.ca/8t5a0Mar 26 10:45
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prurigroone thing I find with apple that I don't find with kde, windows or gnome on that noteMar 26 10:45
prurigrois that I simply can't use it quickly or efficientlyMar 26 10:46
prurigroI got a mac mini and tried with tiger a couple years agoMar 26 10:46
prurigroand again with a hackintosh setup on whatever the one before the one that just came out wasMar 26 10:46
MinceRhttp://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIGMar 26 10:47
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MinceRseems to be their own thingMar 26 10:47
prurigroits impossibly clunky, the effects get in the way, the bar at the bottom works horriblyMar 26 10:47
prurigroand ahh, hmm- perhaps freedesktop should come up with a guidelineMar 26 10:47
prurigrothis reminds me of the old desktop incompatibility issues more than a 'Mar 26 10:48
prurigro'gnome problem' or 'kde problem' or whatever someone might label itMar 26 10:48
prurigrohaving KDE manage their own HIG means Gnome isn't likely following themMar 26 10:48
MinceRi'd risk incompatibility rather than brokenness becoming mandatoryMar 26 10:48
prurigrobrokenness meaning everything might have the accept/cancel dialogues flip flopped?Mar 26 10:49
prurigrolots of apps, including some gtk aps, have lots of featuresMar 26 10:49
MinceRpretty much everything can be broken via HIG, since they could write anything there :>Mar 26 10:50
prurigrothe guidelines would have to work for them as much as the gnome apps-- and you'd find something that worked for all of them become the standard, along with things like the order of the buttonsMar 26 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Letter to European Parliament Civil Liberties Committee on #ACTA - http://bit.ly/H4Rsxy good stuffMar 26 10:50
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prurigropresumably if its gonna effect kde and gnome, they would both be involvedMar 26 10:51
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MinceRi've moved to XFCE anywayMar 26 10:51
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prurigroxfce is nice-- I used it for a couple years thereMar 26 10:51
prurigroI hear its a little more polished now days tooMar 26 10:51
prurigrobut I wouldn't recommend it to everyone just like I wouldn't tell everyone to avoid it :Mar 26 10:52
prurigro:)*Mar 26 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @diablod3 Microsoft lies to Android users about their phone being slower http://ur1.ca/8t5fb !linux !googleMar 26 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody The Department For #ACTA - http://bit.ly/GRIvei come on, #australia - you've got to fight this (and #tpp)Mar 26 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Calling all Linux users in Nairobi >> http://bit.ly/GRcxgWMar 26 10:52
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MinceRi do recommend it to everyoneMar 26 10:52
MinceRwell, there's at least one WTF in the KDE HIG: "Do not assign accelerator keys to tab and paged dialog labels." http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Tabs_PagesMar 26 10:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @nj3ma Calling all Linux users in Nairobi >> http://bit.ly/GRcxgWMar 26 10:54
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prurigromax of 6 tabs too ehMar 26 10:54
MinceRwell, avoiding scrolling tabs there seems to be a good idea, especially when there's a better alternativeMar 26 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Done for the day.Mar 26 10:59
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DaemonFCapparently ZOMG Ubuntu noticed you can still used the GNOME 3 Fallback as a kind of GNOME 2 by stealthMar 26 11:02
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DaemonFCit's not a big secretMar 26 11:02
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DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=54529Mar 26 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Unity 5.8 Lands in Ubuntu 12.04 .::. Size~: 159.69 KBMar 26 11:04
DaemonFCa post on Unity 5.8Mar 26 11:04
DaemonFCall of GNOME 3.4 is going to end up in Ubuntu 12.04Mar 26 11:06
DaemonFCbut a lot of the patching they did for Unity contaminated GNOME and makes it work incorrectly Mar 26 11:06
DaemonFCthere's another problem for people wanting to use GNOME proper in UbuntuMar 26 11:11
DaemonFCthe shell is in Universe, not Main so it may not be properly maintained over 12.04's lifecycleMar 26 11:12
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DaemonFCI think the GNOME developers themselves ended up setting up a PPA to support GNOME in Ubuntu as best they can thoughMar 26 11:13
DaemonFCso you may get better support that way, but it's better to not use Ubuntu if you want GNOME to work as intendedMar 26 11:13
DaemonFCthey have a lot of crackpot patches against GTK and Qt themselves now, so that could potentially affect the stability of anything that uses themMar 26 11:14
DaemonFCthey even reimplemented some of GNOME 2 in QtMar 26 11:14
DaemonFCI noticed it does happen where upstream takes some of Ubuntu's patches that make sense, but for every one of those, there's usually 10-20 others that don't make it upstreamMar 26 11:16
DaemonFCit's turning into something that resembles what old Red Hat and Mandrake did at one pointMar 26 11:16
DaemonFCat some point they'll grow so far apart from upstream that what they have will effectively no longer even be GTK or QtMar 26 11:17
DaemonFCthe gap is widening with each releaseMar 26 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm about to try !Gwibber for the 1st time in a while (months actually)Mar 26 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK hackers hack together job site for UK hackers - http://tnw.co/H48GgT excellent idea #jobsMar 26 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Das Interview von @DRadioWissen mit mir zu #XMPP bzw. #Jabber ist jetzt online http://bit.ly/GRcem8 auch als mp3 http://bit.ly ...Mar 26 11:20
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DaemonFCprurigro, one of the reasons I don't like Compiz is because it more closely resembles kwin's legacy backend than it does Mutter or kwin's OpenGL 2 backendMar 26 11:21
DaemonFCand Gallium3d drivers can run that but they're optimized for the way OpenGL 2 and later work, not for the way OpenGL 1 worksMar 26 11:22
DaemonFCthe performance is abysmal with Compiz unless you install nonfree drivers, which is where I think that "Warn the user that they are using open source drivers" thing came fromMar 26 11:22
DaemonFCI did pull the Catalyst 12.4 preview and load itMar 26 11:23
DaemonFCthe good news is DPMS is working right, the bad news is that the driver causes X to hang when something creates an OpenGL context sometimesMar 26 11:24
DaemonFCnaturally that's what Ubuntu has rolled into their 12.04 branchMar 26 11:25
DaemonFCit's all about quality, that's why the system should hand when you create a GL contextMar 26 11:25
DaemonFC*hangMar 26 11:25
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DaemonFCsomeone added one of those crappy voice removal plugins to Banshee that doesn't really workMar 26 11:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Update XI - http://bit.ly/GNudYe urgent: #EU people please contact your MEPs on #INTA todayMar 26 11:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @aral Don't you just love links that lead to Facebook and require a log in? Breaking the web, one link at a time.Mar 26 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote RT @aral Don't you just love links that lead to Facebook and require a log in? Breaking the web, one link at a time.Mar 26 11:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @Litblog: If Virginia Woolf had written the Twilight Saga - http://t.co/wBWkrc3Q (via @pranesh_prakash) - now with Dr Seuss versionMar 26 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @aral Don't you just love links that lead to Facebook and require a log in? Breaking the web, one link at a time.Mar 26 11:47
DaemonFChttp://www.collegehumor.com/video/6745182/hardly-working-breaking-badMar 26 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ElbaZostaje: Na przychodni Trwaja pertraktacje z ZGNem... im nas wiecej,tym lepiej-wpadaj!Mar 26 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [updated URL] Battleship trailer to raise copyright awareness - http://bit.ly/GRtr14 "you wouldn't steal a battleship..."Mar 26 12:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @aral Don't you just love links that lead to Facebook and require a log in? Breaking the web, one link at a time.Mar 26 12:05
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DaemonFChttp://www.collegehumor.com/video/6645023/roommate-confessions-the-hypocriteMar 26 12:06
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DaemonFChttp://www.collegehumor.com/video/6643805/the-roast-of-hboMar 26 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music Industry Can See The Light After ‘Least Negative’ Sales Since 2004 - http://bit.ly/H41wEj but can they see the reality?Mar 26 12:09
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DaemonFChttp://www.collegehumor.com/video/6641811/best-of-dorkly-chill-penguin-is-chillMar 26 12:19
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MinceRgeekingsMar 26 12:23
DaemonFCuggh, all these billsMar 26 12:23
DaemonFCwhy don't I just go masturbate in public so they'll put me in a nice mental hospital with drugs?Mar 26 12:23
MinceRlolMar 26 12:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dörings Tyrannei-Vergleich empört die Piraten - http://bit.ly/GQztJK it's called democracy: maybe you should try it #tyranneidermasseMar 26 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ElbaZostaje: Dwie osoby zostaly wyciagniete z tlumu i brutalnie zatrzymane. http://ur1.ca/8t65xMar 26 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @karsten @carlopiana it's hard to wield a sword while wearing boxing gloves and riding a bike. not over-the-top too much?..Mar 26 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Γιατί οι παρελάσεις είναι ανθυγιεινές… « //ΠαραλληλοΓράφος//" from http://identi.ca/url/68375837Mar 26 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] @rysiek Shouldn't be too hard with a little practice. You'll get great quality on any of the 3 for price of an iPad.Mar 26 12:40
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DaemonFC<DaemonFC> nobody is perfect, everyone thinks they areMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC nobody really thinks their own problems are that big of a dealMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC even serial killersMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC although that's an extreme exampleMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC<Khaytsus> It's _only_ homless and hookers.  Nobody will miss them.Mar 26 13:03
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> yeah, just don't take out life insurance policies on them or you will get bustedMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC H.H. HolmesMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC nobody was even onto that guy until he started cheating insurance companiesMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC nobody noticed that he killed over 200 peopleMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC that really just says everything about humanityMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC And not a fuck was given...until "Hey Bob, where's all that claims money going?"Mar 26 13:03
DaemonFC* fenrus02 hands DaemonFC a "damaged goods" signMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> thank you :)Mar 26 13:03
DaemonFC just put it over in my pileMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC :DMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC<Khaytsus> DaemonFC: Nobody suspectd him because of that kick-ass mustacheMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> which is where all the insurance money was going, mustache creamMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC it's an expensive habitMar 26 13:03
DaemonFC he didn't mean for it to turn out like it did, but what was he supposed to do at that point?Mar 26 13:03
DaemonFC<Khaytsus> Well, like Nicky Santoro says in Casino, there's a lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems buried in those holes.  But you gotta dig the holes first, because otherwise someone comes over to see what you're doing and now you're digging more holes.  Next thing you know, you're out there all friggin' night.Mar 26 13:05
DaemonFC<DaemonFC> "I didn't see anything" *whistles*Mar 26 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cash for #Cameron: #Murdoch's glee? http://goo.gl/ES0jw careful Rupe, your own name will be among them coinciding with #Sky venturesMar 26 13:07
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DaemonFChttp://consumerist.com/2012/03/health-care-reform-gets-its-first-day-before-the-supreme-court-today.htmlMar 26 13:26
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DaemonFC"At issue is the 145-year-old Anti-Injunction Act, intended to stop people from suing over a tax provision that has yet to be enforced. "Mar 26 13:27
DaemonFChehMar 26 13:27
DaemonFCI doubt the court is going to strike down a law that stops you from suing the federal government for unfair tax policiesMar 26 13:27
DaemonFCI think they're going to bunt the issueMar 26 13:28
DaemonFCclaim that they can't hear the case until someone actually is finedMar 26 13:28
DaemonFCand then sit back and see what happens in the legislature over the next 2 yearsMar 26 13:29
DaemonFCif the Republicans do take a majority this year, there may not be a healthcare law for the courts to hear about in 2014Mar 26 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Counting already 35 events for #DFD tomorrow. What about a spontanous activitiy from http://ur1.ca/8t6lg ? !gnu !fsMar 26 13:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] a brownie point goes to the UK #GreenParty for being the first to respond to my email about #ACTA - and positively #INTAMar 26 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @kirschner Counting already 35 events for #DFD tomorrow. What about a spontanous activitiy from http://ur1.ca/8t6lg ? !gnu !fsMar 26 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @MsLods Judgment in Golden Eye's Norwich Pharmacal Order application; ISPs to provide users' details - http://bit.ly/H382Bo importantMar 26 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] re last tweet: kudos to #consumerfocus for putting up a good fightMar 26 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google to patch Android DoS exploit using fixes provided by Italian researchers that found it - http://tnw.co/H5QqBx joys of #opensourceMar 26 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] δεν φτάνει που'σαι δευτέρα, δεν περνας κι όλας..Mar 26 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian Ministry blames Bt cotton for farmer suicides - http://bit.ly/GRNKLK important statement #india #gmMar 26 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Inspiring the future of work by unlocking innovation through chaos, creativity, and collaboration by @dneighbors | http://red.ht/H6xOUGMar 26 14:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kim Dotcom: The US Government is Wrong, Here’s Why - http://bit.ly/H4tcJg looks like it could really be fun to watch this oneMar 26 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPs try to overturn 'God can heal' ad ban - http://bit.ly/GRWGtw all politicians should be sent on compulsory statistics course...Mar 26 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Forbes: Could !Bitcoin Become the Currency of System D? http://identi.ca/url/68378153Mar 26 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MPs try to overturn 'God can heal' ad ban - http://bit.ly/GRWGtw all politicians should be sent on compulsory statistics course...Mar 26 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Not a Normal Killing - http://bit.ly/GQUB4j utterly depressing tale about #poaching; #china & #vietnam mainly to blame, it seems (v @BoraZ)Mar 26 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Forbes: !Bitcoin Doesn't Need a Dongle http://identi.ca/url/68378355Mar 26 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: "What does “endeavour to promote cooperative efforts" mean? [pdf] - http://bit.ly/H694bc good analysis of bad idea (v @netzpolitik)Mar 26 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Entertainment Industry Was Eager to Work With Megaupload - http://bit.ly/GS2pqp curioser & curioserMar 26 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ElbaZostaje: Najswieże informacje: policja się wycofa. Zostajemy!Mar 26 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @wkpl Klub Dyskusyjny znów nadaje! Zapraszamy do wysłuchania czwartej odsłony podcastu, tym razem nagrywanej zdalnie: http://bit.ly/H ...Mar 26 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange the Senator would champion free media | SMH http://t.co/nmMLyavcMar 26 14:40
DaemonFChttp://consumerist.com/2012/03/microsoft-tells-man-he-didnt-win-windows-phone-challenge-just-because.htmlMar 26 14:49
MinceRtypical m$Mar 26 14:52
cubezzzdo you ever win with Microsoft? ;-)Mar 26 14:54
XFaCEcubezzz: You win you loseMar 26 14:54
cubezzzI won my not playing the game :)Mar 26 14:54
cubezzzbyMar 26 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] XMBC 11.0 released http://ur1.ca/8t7ohMar 26 15:02
MinceRthe only winning move is not to use their products and services. :>Mar 26 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spain's anti-piracy law may already be obsolete - http://reut.rs/HaOAzX Internet evolution (v @copyrightgirl @CopyrightReport) #sindeMar 26 15:12
DaemonFCI'm making my third pot of coffee for the morningMar 26 15:17
DaemonFCby the time I'm done for the day I feel about like I could tear a hole in the universeMar 26 15:18
DaemonFCMinceR, Banshee on SUSE is even worse btwMar 26 15:19
DaemonFC(not OpenSUSE, SUSE)Mar 26 15:19
DaemonFCthey have it using Real's Helix engineMar 26 15:19
DaemonFCnot GstreamerMar 26 15:19
DaemonFCit turned out to be cheaper for Novell to sublicense the codecs Helix can play than to buy Fluendo licensesMar 26 15:20
DaemonFCso that's what they didMar 26 15:20
DaemonFCand it calls itself Banshee-HelixMar 26 15:20
MinceRwhat codecs are those?Mar 26 15:21
fewtyes, which codecs are thoseMar 26 15:22
fewtthe MP3 codec is free, so it has to be a different one.Mar 26 15:22
DaemonFCHelix can play anything Real Player can playMar 26 15:23
DaemonFCincluding a bunch of MPEG-4 stuffMar 26 15:23
fewtright, Helix is a fork of RealPlayer if I remember correctlyMar 26 15:23
fewtor maybe that's backwardsMar 26 15:24
DaemonFCfewt, Their MP3 encoder is better than LAME in a number of waysMar 26 15:24
fewtahhMar 26 15:24
DaemonFCthe license has some unfortunate terms thoughMar 26 15:24
DaemonFCsuch as a choice of law clauseMar 26 15:24
MinceRdoes it play h.264?Mar 26 15:24
DaemonFCI played around with Helix's MP3 encoderMar 26 15:24
DaemonFCit encodes about 3 times faster than LAME canMar 26 15:24
DaemonFCthe downside is it is not very portableMar 26 15:24
DaemonFCbecause a lot of it is x86 assembler Mar 26 15:25
DaemonFCMinceR, YesMar 26 15:25
fewtahhMar 26 15:25
DaemonFCbut LAME gives better resultsMar 26 15:25
DaemonFCand if you're ripping a CD, the drive can only read so fast so how fast LAME can encode is not the issueMar 26 15:26
DaemonFCfewt, plus the Fluendo MP3 is only a decoderMar 26 15:26
DaemonFCHelix does bothMar 26 15:26
fewtthat's trueMar 26 15:26
fewtfair enoughMar 26 15:27
fewtLooks like it's pretty straight forward to get a license to distribute helixMar 26 15:27
fewtnot that I would need tooMar 26 15:27
DaemonFCfewt, If you're already shipping Banshee you might as well ship Banshee Helix insteadMar 26 15:28
DaemonFCif the licensing of the Helix engine works out anywayMar 26 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenStandards Licensing: #Apple's Key Evidence - http://bit.ly/GUqCJn see? RF licensing *is* acceptable, 'cos the benefits are greatMar 26 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Save the #Amazon - http://bit.ly/GQgbbQ it needs our help #epetitionMar 26 15:30
DaemonFCfewt, https://helix-banshee.helixcommunity.org/Mar 26 15:30
DaemonFClooks like they set up a site for itMar 26 15:31
fewtit's ancientMar 26 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "A Learning a Day: Richard Stallman, Founder of Free Software Foundation: Interview XIII - http://identi.ca/url/68380224Mar 26 15:34
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DaemonFCoh look, here's jonoMar 26 15:35
DaemonFChe'll sign onto my mandatory minimum bacon voter initiative Mar 26 15:35
DaemonFCwith just a 1% tax on people making over $250,000 a year, we could have bacon for allMar 26 15:35
MinceRlolMar 26 15:36
MinceRbut why do you want to eat him?Mar 26 15:36
DaemonFCgovernment taxes have a way of snowballingMar 26 15:37
DaemonFCat first, nobody cares because the tax doesn't affect very many peopleMar 26 15:37
DaemonFCthen over the years it creeps until whatever it was funding has become so large that everyone has to pay the tax to fund itMar 26 15:38
DaemonFCand eventually, the government starts skimming off of whatever was being funded and eventually just stops funding the thing at allMar 26 15:38
DaemonFCand never rescinds the taxMar 26 15:38
DaemonFCwhich is what is going on with Social Security Mar 26 15:38
DaemonFCMinceR, Road taxes work that wayMar 26 15:39
DaemonFC!google Minnesota bridge collapseMar 26 15:39
DaemonFCoh, the bot isn't hereMar 26 15:40
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-35W_Mississippi_River_bridgeMar 26 15:40
DaemonFChttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/I-35W-rescue-Minneapolis-20070801.jpgMar 26 15:41
DaemonFCthere's what the road taxes go forMar 26 15:41
DaemonFCthe police and rescue after the bridge collapses from not being repaired while the money was diverted to give food stamps to illegal immigrantsMar 26 15:42
MinceRoh, using a tax for something totally different and leaving taxpayers to pay for the original thing is a big thing in hungary tooMar 26 15:42
MinceRthey did it to education and tried to do it to healthcare tooMar 26 15:42
*XFaCE gives voice to amarsh04__ DaemonFC jonoMar 26 15:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "κάτω ο πατριωτισμός – ζήτω ο διεθνισμός" via @risinggalaxy http://identi.ca/url/68380661Mar 26 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm not sure who did. That person's posting about affiliate programs and product reviews; typically spammy on Identi.ca.Mar 26 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] http://identi.ca/url/339605 is a good way to get in touch with us.Mar 26 15:52
DaemonFCI just filed another FCC complaintMar 26 15:54
DaemonFCagainst someone sending me junk textsMar 26 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Hint for event organisers: "with only 150 days to go until $Minor_Conference" is not a great way to seduct ppl into reading generic updatesMar 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #Apple, and why RF standards are the future http://bit.ly/GUqCJn great little piece by @glynmoodyMar 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #Censorship of The Pirate Bay http://ur1.ca/8t8ai #tpbMar 26 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] While Software Patents Are on the Line, Linux and the Public Continue to Suffer http://ur1.ca/8t8dy #swpats #usMar 26 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Patent Lawyers Are Clueless About the Software Industry - http://bit.ly/H99Va8 yup: lots of good point #swpatsMar 26 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple: When Branding is More important Than Quality http://ur1.ca/8t8fd #appleMar 26 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] XBMC 11.0 Eden Multimedia Center Released | What’s New | Screenshots http://ur1.ca/8t8g2 #XBMCMar 26 16:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bodhi 1.4.0 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/8t8g7 #bodhilinuxMar 26 16:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Monopolies Strangle Innovation: Record Label Demands Making Investors Nervous About Spotify - http://bit.ly/GRBsNB hating the newMar 26 16:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/news/3457/samsung-remains-leading-supplier-ipad-displaysMar 26 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Lossless Streaming Absolute Radio" http://ur1.ca/8t8he Thank you for recommending #vlc! !fs Mar 26 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The (bumpy) road to Free Software #SaaS http://ur1.ca/8t8i0 #fossMar 26 16:34
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458890Mar 26 16:35
schestowitz"nice to hear, i'll be there in two weeks, hope the sunny weather still be there too "Mar 26 16:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Feels like summer in England these days. Hottest weekend on record for this time of the year. Over 23 degrees in Surrey.Mar 26 16:35
schestowitz"Same here, we're at 18-20. Quite good to me. "Mar 26 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman, Founder of Free Software Foundation: Interview XIII - Real Leader Interviews http://ur1.ca/8t8ii #fsf #gnuMar 26 16:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456791Mar 26 16:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Lenovo Sucks- Never buy this box  http://www.ghabuntu.com/2012/03/lenovo-sucks-never-buy-this-box.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+luqman+%28GHABUNTU%29 "aulty bios that cannot boot any #Linux distro"Mar 26 16:40
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schestowitz"having a thinkpad edge 13" (version Nue88ge/0197-88G) which works lousy under linux (loud fan, overheating, low battery) and desperately seeks a BIOS-upgrade, i have to agree here. out of the box this laptop had 2 hours battery capacity. ftw? "Mar 26 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ACTA : The EU Parliament Must Face Its Political Responsibility http://ur1.ca/8t8kq #euMar 26 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Git PHP. RIP Subversion http://ur1.ca/8t8l4 #git #linuxMar 26 16:45
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schestowitzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2746161&cid=39472161Mar 26 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] The #scifund challenge http://ur1.ca/8t8ni A very important experimentMar 26 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Wasteland 2" Kickstarter Hits $1.5 Million, Which Means It's Heading To Mac And Linux http://ur1.ca/8t8nl proprietary thoughMar 26 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 12.04 Beta: Canonical’s New Linux Desktop http://ur1.ca/8t8nu #Canonical #ubuntuMar 26 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Integrate your app into Unity in Ubuntu - see the video and documentation at http://is.gd/FbDehF #ubuntu #locoteamsMar 26 16:55
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458966Mar 26 16:56
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet Vivaldi: It’s Got A Real “Spark” For Open-Source! http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/03/meet-vivaldi-its-got-a-real-spark-for-open-source/ #kdeMar 26 16:56
schestowitz"Android tablets don't try to promote open source and free software. The Vivaldi only has 2 binary blobs left to be full open and they are working on that as well. See http://www.opentablets.org/ They even have a diaspora account: opentablets@diasp.org "Mar 26 16:56
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XFaCEschestowitz: So which would you buy first, Ras Pi or the Vivaldi?Mar 26 16:56
fewtXFaCE: Probably Windows 8 tablet edition with the quad core I7000 and built in diesel generator. /jokeMar 26 17:00
fewt:)Mar 26 17:00
MinceRlolMar 26 17:00
MinceRthe I7000 is not good enough, there are some applications it can runMar 26 17:01
schestowitzXFaCE: I don't need rasp piMar 26 17:01
MinceRgo vista8 on ARM insteadMar 26 17:01
schestowitzvivaldi I could find use forMar 26 17:01
schestowitzbut it doesn't have keyboardMar 26 17:01
XFaCEschestowitz: ok, which makes you more excited?Mar 26 17:01
MinceRthen you won't have anything to distract you from vista8!Mar 26 17:01
schestowitzso I'm better off with a PDAMar 26 17:01
schestowitzXFaCE: they're too differnt to compareMar 26 17:01
XFaCEschestowitz: You mean, nor virtual keyboard?Mar 26 17:01
MinceRmaybe i asked already, but...Mar 26 17:01
MinceRschestowitz: what PDA do you have?Mar 26 17:01
schestowitzprice point one order of magnitude higher for vivaldiMar 26 17:01
schestowitzMinceR: Palm Tungsten\Mar 26 17:02
schestowitzwith some peripherals and extnsionsMar 26 17:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Cook: seccomp filter now in Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/8t8qcMar 26 17:04
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MinceRschestowitz: Tungsten C?Mar 26 17:05
schestowitznoMar 26 17:06
schestowitzungstenMar 26 17:06
schestowitzthe firstMar 26 17:06
MinceRTungsten T?Mar 26 17:07
MinceRalthough i'm confusedMar 26 17:07
MinceRthe WP article first says that the first one was Tungsten T, then it goes on to say that the second Tungsten was the Tungsten TMar 26 17:08
schestowitzyeahMar 26 17:09
schestowitzand t2Mar 26 17:09
schestowitzthen t3Mar 26 17:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New 'counterterrorism' guidelines allow unfettered access to vast amounts of private data on innocent citizens https://eff.org/r.3VRMar 26 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wishtel Ira Tablets – Cheap, Android/Linux Powered & Support Indian Languages http://ur1.ca/8t8ro #linux #opentabletsMar 26 17:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wishtel Ira Tablets – Cheap, Android/Linux Powered & Support Indian Languages - CrazyEngineers .::. Size~: 28.56 KBMar 26 17:12
schestowitz"Doh!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458890Mar 26 17:15
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Feels like summer in England these days. Hottest weekend on record for this time of the year. Over 23 degrees in Surrey.Mar 26 17:15
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZrSQ_Tyo54Mar 26 17:17
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458890Mar 26 17:26
schestowitz"I went out for a run and now my legs have been hurting since saturday :/ "Mar 26 17:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Feels like summer in England these days. Hottest weekend on record for this time of the year. Over 23 degrees in Surrey.Mar 26 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint #Debian Edition gets fresh updates http://ur1.ca/8t8s1 #gnu #linuxMar 26 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #APTonCD - another reason to use Linux http://ur1.ca/8t8s8 #gnu #linuxMar 26 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Zipline Games launches open source dev platform Moai http://ur1.ca/8t8v2Mar 26 17:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Mint Debian Edition gets fresh updates - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.13 KBMar 26 17:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: APTonCD - another reason to use Linux | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 52.65 KBMar 26 17:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zipline Games launches open source dev platform Moai | news | Moai | PocketGamer.biz .::. Size~: 50.85 KBMar 26 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Easter Egg Hunt In Colorado Canceled Due To Aggressive Parents : NPR" http://ur1.ca/8t8vp Mar 26 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Notepad++ 6 adds regular expressions and a file map (H): http://bit.ly/GO42RbMar 26 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How #ASCAP Takes Money From Successful Indie Artists And Gives It To Giant Rock Stars http://goo.gl/0Pc6uMar 26 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Monopolies Strangle Innovation: Record Label Demands Making Investors Nervous About Spotify http://goo.gl/rWSZ4Mar 26 17:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How ASCAP Takes Money From Successful Indie Artists And Gives It To Giant Rock Stars | Techdirt .::. Size~: 38.49 KBMar 26 17:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Monopolies Strangle Innovation: Record Label Demands Making Investors Nervous About Spotify | Techdirt .::. Size~: 86.62 KBMar 26 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Another Job Opportunity! Apply to be Communications Manager at Creative Commons: http://ur1.ca/8t91e #jobsMar 26 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Microsoft Astroturfing alive and kicking: "hAl" posting as "blieb" @webwereldMar 26 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Iceland's public administrations moving towards open source by @sjig | http://red.ht/H7oPCz #opengovMar 26 18:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Job Opportunity: Communications Manager - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 22.04 KBMar 26 18:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iceland's public administrations moving towards open source | opensource.com .::. Size~: 49.52 KBMar 26 18:12
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prurigroMinceR, yo, you around?Mar 26 18:33
prurigroand 'allo allMar 26 18:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Information Day on @NeelieKroesEU's European #CloudComputing Partnership, 12 April, Brussels http://t.co/1N http://p.ost.im/p/e4Cq9VMar 26 18:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: in top gear at @HTACampus - trying out a smart mobility truck simulator that cd cut acci http://p.ost.im/p/e4xQJuMar 26 18:45
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MinceRprurigro: yes, and 'alloMar 26 19:04
prurigroahh hey-- must be getting late over on that side of the world eh?Mar 26 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @cwebber At a !MediaGoblin federation mini-sprint with @brettcsmith and @evan at the FSF office!Mar 26 19:05
schestowitz0/Mar 26 19:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456697Mar 26 19:08
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Mar 26 19:08
schestowitz"I didn't want to point it out. "Mar 26 19:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1456045Mar 26 19:09
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Mar 26 19:09
schestowitz"I got a lot of burns fron my old laptop. I never noticed because at some point the area goes completely numb from the heat. Oops. Unbelievable they couldn't avoid that problem.. "Mar 26 19:09
MinceR"Anounymos"?Mar 26 19:10
XFaCEEn Francais?Mar 26 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Monday http://ur1.ca/8t9ymMar 26 19:14
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schestowitzXFaCE: how you say,....?Mar 26 19:16
schestowitzAnonymouseMar 26 19:16
schestowitzanony mousseMar 26 19:16
XFaCEAn-onee-mouseMar 26 19:17
XFaCEAn-on-ee-mouseMar 26 19:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458912Mar 26 19:17
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Newsflash: FOSS - like proprietary software - has complications associated with licensing, security, bugs, stability; has high male/female ratioMar 26 19:17
schestowitz"oops! totally missed that, my apologies!"Mar 26 19:17
XFaCEschestowitz: itMar 26 19:19
XFaCEs a "know fact"Mar 26 19:19
DaemonFCGMX is doing a really lousy job with their spam filter latelyMar 26 19:20
DaemonFCmaybe they contracted it out to Microsoft or somethingMar 26 19:20
DaemonFCtoo many false positives, and very OBVIOUS onesMar 26 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Piracy Created The Massive Movie Industry Success Of Nollywood - http://bit.ly/HcsrBw fascinating #nigeriaMar 26 19:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Draft Spanish access to information law contains excessive exceptions & falls below international standards - http://bit.ly/GV1YbR not goodMar 26 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] My blatant self-interest forces me to recommend that you continue your bread investigations.Mar 26 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out nice wrap-up of #epsiconf in Rotterdam - http://goo.gl/7152E #PSI via @okfnMar 26 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Documentos inéditos sobre a atuação da Stratfor no Brasil expõem o amadorismo de espiões e fontes | Publica http://t.co/4EBIox0ZMar 26 19:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] h-online covers Free Software for #gsm networks (#openbts, #openbsc): http://ur1.ca/8tabeMar 26 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] four day #osmocom developer meeting has just finished http://ur1.ca/8tacpMar 26 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] now the question is whether she violated Disney's copyright or you hers ;)Mar 26 19:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Report-iOS-vulnerability-sold-for-250-000-1480102.htmlMar 26 19:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Report: iOS vulnerability sold for $250,000 - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 42.75 KBMar 26 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody How Piracy Created The Massive Movie Industry Success Of Nollywood - http://bit.ly/HcsrBw fascinating #nigeriaMar 26 20:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Piracy Created The Massive Movie Industry Success Of Nollywood | Techdirt .::. Size~: 51.66 KBMar 26 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #LinuxMint #Debian Edition gets fresh updates http://ur1.ca/8t8s1 #gnu #linuxMar 26 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff New 'counterterrorism' guidelines allow unfettered access to vast amounts of private data on innocent citizens https://eff.org/r.3VRMar 26 20:04
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DaemonFChttp://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2012/03/the-end-of-support-f.htmlMar 26 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @climagic tmux new-session -t 0 # Attach to existing session 0 in #tmux, but allow it to have seperate movements (see different windo ...Mar 26 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @climagic fold -w 72 -s draft.txt > newdraft.txt # Wrap the lines of draft.txt at 72 characters wide, doing so at spaces, not middle ...Mar 26 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] V FERIA CUCHILLERIA ARTESANAL - YouTube http://goo.gl/oKqAv #knives #spain via http://goo.gl/zSL6bMar 26 20:10
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XFaCEschestowitz: desperation http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/03/at-9999-nokia-lumia-900-priced-to-move-for-april-8-launch.ars?comments=1#comments-barMar 26 20:20
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XFaCE"MPAA's calculations, 25 petabytes of pirated movies is worth at least 76 Quintillion dollars."Mar 26 20:21
DaemonFCpriced to move?Mar 26 20:21
DaemonFCfire sale on day one?Mar 26 20:21
cubezzzbut all the movies are shittyMar 26 20:21
cubezzzexcept 2001Mar 26 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "GNU Telephony » Blog Archive » Our goals and LibrePlanet 2012" http://ur1.ca/8t5cj #gnuMar 26 20:22
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XFaCEDaemonFC: pun?Mar 26 20:23
DaemonFC?Mar 26 20:23
XFaCEcubezzz: 2001 is about, nothingMar 26 20:23
XFaCEDaemonFC: *Fire* sale, wasn't there also a WP7 phone fire prob?Mar 26 20:24
DaemonFCI don't knowMar 26 20:24
DaemonFClots of things that Microsoft and Apple make overheat and/or catch fireMar 26 20:25
DaemonFCyou'll have to be more specific :)Mar 26 20:25
XFaCEWell, WP7 phones in particularMar 26 20:25
XFaCEI seem to recall fire problemsMar 26 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] OPINEL N°08 Outdoor - YouTube http://goo.gl/sdp0j #bushcraft #knivesMar 26 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ThanksMar 26 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: In regards to political/religious groups: "can we stop using 'family' to mean 'bigoted retardMar 26 20:25
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cubezzzXFaCE, ok I'll substitute 2001 with Silent RunningMar 26 20:26
cubezzzthe idea of a sentient computer is still cool thoughMar 26 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Supreme Court tells patent appeals court to reconsider patent on DNA. https://eff.org/r.5Vz #patentfailMar 26 20:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Supreme Court Gets it Right: No Patents on Laws of Nature | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 36.88 KBMar 26 20:30
XFaCEcubezzz: sure, that one part of the 3+ hour movie was interestingMar 26 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If Desktop !Linux Is Dead, Someone Had Better Tell All Those Users - CFOworld http://ping.fm/oEzs3Mar 26 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: If Desktop Linux Is Dead, Someone Had Better Tell All Those Users | CFOworld .::. Size~: 33.38 KBMar 26 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Building a GSM network with open source (The H) http://ur1.ca/8tas1Mar 26 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apocryphal meeting between Donald Knuth and Steve Jobs http://goo.gl/qFnOgMar 26 20:42
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iophkhttp://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Close_Encounters_of_the_Steve_Kind.txtMar 26 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Security expert Bruce Schneier prevented from testifying to Congress about TSA failures http://identi.ca/url/68387163Mar 26 20:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Schneier on Security: Congressional Testimony on the TSA .::. Size~: 28.7 KBMar 26 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Strange glow in New Jersey? Toxic poisons from nearby refinery http://identi.ca/url/68387222Mar 26 20:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Strange glow in New Jersey? Refinery gas! - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 32.81 KBMar 26 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @karsten: #Apple, and why RF standards are the future http://bit.ly/GUqCJn great little piece by @glynmoody !fs !fsfe !gnuMar 26 20:50
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DaemonFCtheir idea of open standards it to take out 5,000 patents on it and charge so much for licensing that you can't compete with their pricing and make a profitMar 26 20:56
DaemonFCthat's where MPEG-4 is atMar 26 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google !Android » Nexus owner wins #Microsoft competition, gets stiffed for prize [UPDATE] http://ping.fm/q8jQjMar 26 20:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Creativity isn't one size fits all, so why is !copyright? http://ping.fm/t01gqMar 26 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Mist! Hätte heute im Interview zu #XMPP noch erwähnen sollen, dass der #Windows Live Messenger Nachrichten zensiert http://bit ...Mar 26 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 16-year-old Makes Working Scientific Calculator in Minecraft (Tom's Hardware): http://bit.ly/GRoJeaMar 26 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Paul E. McKenney's Journal - 2012 Linux Plumbers Conference Call For Proposals http://bit.ly/GOrAFE #LPCMar 26 21:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Pharma co @Novartis plays the bad loser in Indian Patent Case http://j.mp/GUWQoKMar 26 21:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Questions for News Corp over rival's collapse - http://bit.ly/GRpmnP not due to #piracy, as claimed?Mar 26 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 79 dents!Mar 26 21:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Questions for News Corp over rival's collapse | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 100.79 KBMar 26 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I would be so pleased if the Murdochs had to leave Sky. Then I could finally subscribe http://ping.fm/cfYJ6Mar 26 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Knit the !fellowship plussy http://ur1.ca/8qf2jMar 26 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @laf0rge h-online covers Free Software for #gsm networks (#openbts, #openbsc): http://ur1.ca/8tabeMar 26 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @glynmoody #OpenStandards Licensing: #Apple's Key Evidence - http://bit.ly/GUqCJn see? RF licensing *is* acceptable, 'cos the benefit ...Mar 26 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LibreOffice developers demo collaborative editing prototype (ars technica) http://ur1.ca/8tb8fMar 26 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Standards Licensing: Apple's Key Evidence - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 80.4 KBMar 26 21:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Eircom admits user disconnection is illegal; wants other Irish ISPs to do it anyway - http://bit.ly/GOylqO wowMar 26 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Is there an opening for a cake-eater?Mar 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Building a #GSM network with #opensource - http://bit.ly/H8G0no neat stuffMar 26 22:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] voted for "Something else which I will tell you about below"Mar 26 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] VLC, of course...Mar 26 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #SONDAJ: Mihai Răzvan #Ungureanu ar putea fi candidatul #PDL la funcția de președinte... http://ur1.ca/8tbfo #alegeri #romania #mruMar 26 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @glynmoody Building a #GSM network with #opensource - http://bit.ly/H8G0no neat stuffMar 26 22:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mihai Razvan Ungureanu ar putea fi candidatul PDL la functia de presedinte. Veti vota cu acesta la alegerile prezidentiale sau veti alege alt candidat? ~ ECON.TEXT .::. Size~: 33.88 KBMar 26 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Congress has already proven just how little they understand the Internet. Stop their misguided "cybersecurity" bill: https://eff.org/r.V9SMar 26 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm just listening to Shambles Miller on !rr — Wow that is a great track @methoddan — I must remember to email him and say soMar 26 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Grammar of Happiness: An Interview with Daniel Everett - http://bit.ly/H6YAvB "the Pirahã language is like the Basque of the Amazon"Mar 26 22:10
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Grammar of Happiness: An Interview with Daniel Everett   - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 48.46 KBMar 26 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Building a GSM network with open source - The H Open Source: News http://goo.gl/Ct0GN #flossMar 26 22:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Building a GSM network with open source - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 49.73 KBMar 26 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] We must fight for wallet control! Wallets kill people! bit.ly/HaIcG2 #usa !lolMar 26 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Making a Chris Reeve Pacific leather knife sheath - YouTube http://goo.gl/HscZW #knivesMar 26 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. .::. Size~: 23.57 KBMar 26 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Know of open education policies in institution or gov't? Please add to the #OER Policy Registry! http://bit.ly/GTwGUIMar 26 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Google probably served with PATRIOT Act production order in WikiLeaks case http://t.co/uoLL9SbIMar 26 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OER Policy Registry: Request for Help - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 24.43 KBMar 26 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: slight paranoia: Federal judge: Google free to tell user about mysterious gov requests, likely related to Wikileaks .::. Size~: 76.23 KBMar 26 22:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Human genes: not patentable subject matter, says US Supreme Court. Yes! Good one! http://ur1.ca/8tbqhMar 26 22:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: High court throws out human gene patents - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 399.66 KBMar 26 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australian PM's party 90% wiped out after failing to support WikiLeaks http://t.co/kYp1lafB #auspolMar 26 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Australian Prime Minister Stares Into The Abyss | WL Central .::. Size~: 18.66 KBMar 26 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @wikileaks2 Australian PM's party 90% wiped out after failing to support WikiLeaks http://t.co/kYp1lafB #auspolMar 26 22:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Australian Prime Minister Stares Into The Abyss | WL Central .::. Size~: 18.66 KBMar 26 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wikileaks2 Awesome news... isn't it interesting how citizens get annoyed when government ignores their wishes !wikileaks #auspol #backlashMar 26 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ruiseabra Human genes: not patentable subject matter, says US Supreme Court. Yes! Good one! http://ur1.ca/8tbqhMar 26 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: High court throws out human gene patents - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 401.99 KBMar 26 22:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Questions for #NewsCorp over rival's collapse http://gu.com/p/36ejkMar 26 23:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Questions for News Corp over rival's collapse | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 101.83 KBMar 26 23:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Miriam O'Reilly: There was seething resentment when I went back to #BBC http://gu.com/p/36ddvMar 26 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Isn't the justification for #patents to monetize inventions? Patenting fire, math, layout or genes is ludicrous http://ur1.ca/8tbqh #greedMar 26 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Miriam O'Reilly: There was seething resentment when I went back to BBC | Media | The Guardian .::. Size~: 126.51 KBMar 26 23:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: High court throws out human gene patents - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 354.53 KBMar 26 23:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] O proszę, o Wolnej Kulturze (@wkpl) napisano na #WikiNews: bit.ly/GRWhtT :)Mar 26 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Open File⇒ @balkissoon writes: Miles to go: Byron Sonne trial Continues http://www.ur1.ca/8tbyb !freeByronMar 26 23:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Miles to go: Byron Sonne trial Continues | OpenFile .::. Size~: 59.02 KBMar 26 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] danah boyd’s “Culture of Fear” Talk http://goo.gl/OTwsOMar 26 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: danah boyd’s “Culture of Fear” Talk .::. Size~: 36.97 KBMar 26 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] My HD indicator Led is staying on. That's annoying. It's not really an indicator at all now :(Mar 26 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gun-shy #TSA gets critic booted from Congressional panel http://goo.gl/XmqYuMar 26 23:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gun-shy TSA gets critic booted from Congressional panel .::. Size~: 33.58 KBMar 26 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @balkissoon Justice Spies: "You're trying to make him guilty by association." re: email newsletters on !freeByron's computer admissibilityMar 26 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺‏ @balkissoon GOAT acronym also ruled inadmissible. May we never, ever, ever speak of Byron Sonne's usernames again. !freeByronMar 26 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @balkissoon Judge in Byron Sonne case never heard of Linux. Fair enough, but indicates gulf btw justice systm & comp scientists !freeByronMar 26 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] #TSA gets Bruce Schneier booted from House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing - Boing Boing http://ur1.ca/8tc3vMar 26 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @balkissoon I'm truly not criticizing the judge. Tech/science literacy at all levels of justice system issue in this case. !freeByronMar 26 23:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TSA gets Bruce Schneier booted from House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform hearing - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 35.22 KBMar 26 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 Today was an awesome day in #RvSonne. Defence opens and Crown has tete-a-tete with judge. http://www.ur1.ca/8tc4b < !freeByronMar 26 23:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ByronTrialNotes/daily-notes/day26.md at master · colah/ByronTrialNotes · GitHub .::. Size~: 58.7 KBMar 26 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Your Privacy Is a Sci-Fi Fantasy http://goo.gl/7S2VzMar 26 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] High School Student Expelled For Tweeting Profanity; Principal Admits School Tracks All Tweets http://goo.gl/QMAzr #fuckMar 26 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-03-12 - 2012-03-18 http://ow.ly/1iloduMar 26 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@harcesz #OccupyWarsaw na #OccupySkrzecz w ramach #OpElba, #OpPrzychodnia - kto mówił że w wwie brak dobrego #u? http://ur1.ca/8qfelMar 26 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Your Privacy Is a Sci-Fi Fantasy - Slashdot .::. Size~: 123.52 KBMar 26 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: High School Student Expelled For Tweeting Profanity; Principal Admits School Tracks All Tweets | Techdirt .::. Size~: 79.3 KBMar 26 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-03-12 - 2012-03-18 - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 13.96 KBMar 26 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ochronaskrzecz.pl - to protect and to serve .::. Size~: 9.94 KBMar 26 23:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] ALP headed for Australia-wide wipeout. Newspoll show that ALP federal primary vote now down to 28%, just 1% off the QLD primary voteMar 26 23:50
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