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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews/status/186952150084100097Apr 03 02:37
TechrightsSocial@YourAnonNews: Forget SOPA, You Should Be Worried About #CISPA (Cyber Intelligence Sharing & Protection Act) aka #HR3523 | http://t.co/yuFXN38N #StopCISPAApr 03 02:37
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Forget SOPA, You Should Be Worried About This Cybersecurity Bill | Techdirt .::. Size~: 131.11 KBApr 03 02:37
qu1j0t3XFaCE: schestowitz https://twitter.com/#!/simondonner/status/185491296197160961Apr 03 03:05
TechrightsSocial@simondonner: In 498 pg budget: climate change appears twice. carbon, twice. Oil? 75 times. Welcome to the new Canada? #bdgt12 http://t.co/fYN4cSI9Apr 03 03:05
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Budget 2012 .::. Size~: 22.06 KBApr 03 03:05
qu1j0t3XFaCE: schestowitz https://twitter.com/#!/MediatedJustice/status/186995275452268544Apr 03 03:05
TechrightsSocial@MediatedJustice: #Harper Budget Unfairly targets Enviro Groups http://t.co/9yo7F1fa #bdgt12 #CdnPoli #Enviro #TarSands #CdnMedia @rabbleca @CBCRadio @jsourceApr 03 03:05
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Budget’s new rules unfairly target environmental groups - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 96.96 KBApr 03 03:05
XFaCEffsApr 03 03:06
qu1j0t3XFaCE: https://twitter.com/#!/poormansmedia/status/186996127265071104Apr 03 03:06
TechrightsSocial@poormansmedia: PetroChina bids to help build $5.5-billion Northern Gateway pipeline. Jobs for Canadians? Maybe not. Article: http://t.co/QvQpWMZY #NGPApr 03 03:06
TechrightsSocial-> Title: PetroChina bids to help build Enbridge's Northern Gateway pipeline | Energy | News | Financial Post .::. Size~: 76.17 KBApr 03 03:06
qu1j0t3also.. XFaCE schestowitz https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/186996131606183939Apr 03 03:07
XFaCElalala, lalalaApr 03 03:07
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: USA's #DHS can veto your travel, even if going nowhere near the US: http://t.co/dV82xQoY #WheresTheOutrage #plutocracy #OWS #cdnpoliApr 03 03:07
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Planning a trip to Canada or the Caribbean? US Immigration may have other ideas... - News & Advice - Travel - The Independent .::. Size~: 89.91 KBApr 03 03:07
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Let's move to ScotlandApr 03 03:08
qu1j0t3no, they're everywhere now.Apr 03 03:08
qu1j0t3we might as well fight where we standApr 03 03:09
qu1j0t3like my Dad told me, more or lessApr 03 03:09
qu1j0t3the older guys were a bit wiser... when i emigrateed i thought i was outrunning the BS but i moved right into it.Apr 03 03:09
XFaCEqu1j0t3: My university offers international programsApr 03 03:09
qu1j0t3at the same time, i knew there is no easy way to end thisApr 03 03:09
qu1j0t3XFaCE: it won't work.Apr 03 03:10
qu1j0t3XFaCE: i know that now.Apr 03 03:10
XFaCEI know, but at least it'll be nice before GW alters S-land foreveryApr 03 03:10
qu1j0t3but you can do it for other reasons -- change of scenery :)Apr 03 03:10
qu1j0t3sureApr 03 03:10
XFaCEYeah!Apr 03 03:10
XFaCEAnd a new accentApr 03 03:10
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/#!/Juicexlx/status/186997233521143808Apr 03 03:13
TechrightsSocial@Juicexlx: More #CPC failure!! Malaysia buys $5B of Canadian gas at 15% rebate http://t.co/VXIhe0SX #CDNPoli A dictatorship to boot and no Pandas?Apr 03 03:13
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Malaysia plans Canadian gas acquisition topping $5-billion | Investing | Financial Post .::. Size~: 75.12 KBApr 03 03:13
qu1j0t3that. is. outrageous.Apr 03 03:13
XFaCEThis is sabotageApr 03 03:13
XFaCESelf-destructionApr 03 03:13
qu1j0t3yes, it's a heist.Apr 03 03:14
XFaCEI predict in less than 5 years we will have a referendum on joining the USApr 03 03:14
qu1j0t3somebody's getting rich, and it's not ordinary canadians.Apr 03 03:14
XFaCEBell Rogers, the usual suspectsApr 03 03:14
qu1j0t3a coterie of plutocrats.Apr 03 03:15
qu1j0t3don't look at COMPANIES!Apr 03 03:15
qu1j0t3look at individuals.Apr 03 03:15
qu1j0t3that's the secret they're trying to hide all these yearsApr 03 03:16
qu1j0t3they want us to hate some companies, it keeps heat off the real criminalsApr 03 03:16
qu1j0t3in fact, companies are like the disposable armourApr 03 03:16
qu1j0t3damage a company, who cares?Apr 03 03:16
qu1j0t3but plutocrats BLEEDApr 03 03:16
XFaCENext time the University Connies are promoting, send me a bunch of articles so can throw them in their faceApr 03 03:16
qu1j0t3nah, you will have to log this channel.Apr 03 03:23
qu1j0t3i can never find stuff on a dime like that.Apr 03 03:23
qu1j0t3ask schestowitz for backlog linksApr 03 03:23
schestowitzqu1j0t3: what on?Apr 03 08:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xExP1ThOcyg&feature=relmfuApr 03 13:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: Atheists Rally for Reason on National Mall       - YouTube .::. Size~: 136.31 KBApr 03 13:03
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qu1j0t3oiApr 03 14:53
qu1j0t3schestowitz: Harper's mess Apr 03 14:53
qu1j0t3schestowitz: you don't RT/re-dent me any more?Apr 03 14:54
qu1j0t3:)Apr 03 14:54
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I hardly read anything in twitter anymoreApr 03 14:57
schestowitzyou'll find that I never RT anyoneApr 03 14:57
schestowitztwitter is a dwindling medium, tooApr 03 14:58
qu1j0t3my feed isn't dwindling.Apr 03 14:58
schestowitzit's declining in impact, given it a few years to become like myspaceApr 03 14:58
qu1j0t3it's as politically aware as everApr 03 14:58
schestowitzthe audience becomes less activeApr 03 14:58
qu1j0t3even moreso now, the engagement over Harper's crimes is increasing i thinkApr 03 14:58
schestowitzpeople flock to other sitesApr 03 14:58
schestowitzHarper is not known to most peopleApr 03 14:58
schestowitzI focus more on Linux/FOSS nowApr 03 14:58
schestowitzI don't have time for as much as beforeApr 03 14:59
schestowitznot with several jobs and a fiancée... I limit all the activism, compartmentalising it and covering what time permitsApr 03 14:59
schestowitzso it's nothing personal, I don't ignore stuff, I leave it for other people to combatApr 03 15:00
qu1j0t3  schestowitz | not with several jobs and a fiancée... I limit all the activism // heheApr 03 15:09
schestowitzyeah, have to...Apr 03 15:09
qu1j0t3well i limit it according to available emotional energyApr 03 15:09
schestowitzI might return to the previous paceApr 03 15:09
qu1j0t3i'm really only a slacktivistApr 03 15:09
schestowitze.g. if I move somewhere different next yearApr 03 15:09
qu1j0t3i didn't attend g20 itselfApr 03 15:09
qu1j0t3i actually can't afford to be arrested :<Apr 03 15:10
qu1j0t3as a non-citizenApr 03 15:10
qu1j0t3and assault doesn't appeal eitherApr 03 15:10
qu1j0t3so i guess the little fascist winsApr 03 15:10
schestowitzoh, they didn't grant you citizenship yet?Apr 03 15:10
schestowitzwhat are the requirement? 9 year residency?Apr 03 15:10
qu1j0t3no, much lessApr 03 15:10
qu1j0t3closer to 4 yrs continuousApr 03 15:10
qu1j0t3out of country is subtracted by dayApr 03 15:11
qu1j0t3so i wasn't eligible until last year, i guessApr 03 15:11
schestowitzwhat would be the point getting it?Apr 03 15:11
qu1j0t3but i am wondering if i want citizenship of a fascist stateApr 03 15:11
qu1j0t3if you want to live here, it's vital; residency is weakApr 03 15:11
schestowitzin the EU, you must give away one nationality to get anorher, due to mixed loyalty in member nationsApr 03 15:11
qu1j0t3hahaApr 03 15:11
qu1j0t3for EU that sort of makes sense.Apr 03 15:11
schestowitzgiven where the economy is going right now in the UK, you'd have to be Polish or something to want naturalisation hereApr 03 15:12
qu1j0t3i gotta concentrate on work for a bit :/Apr 03 15:12
schestowitzokApr 03 15:12
schestowitznuff saidApr 03 15:12
qu1j0t3yaApr 03 15:12
qu1j0t3:<Apr 03 15:12
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schestowitzSome "Senior Director at Microsoft" was checking my profile...Apr 03 16:24
schestowitzBased in LondonApr 03 16:24
qu1j0t3lulzApr 03 16:29
qu1j0t3people don't like hearing Gates criticised. http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2012-April/314480.htmlApr 03 16:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: Gates Bashing (*sigh* yet again..) Was Re: PRIME NUMBERS .::. Size~: 3.61 KBApr 03 16:34
MinceRALL MUST BOW BEFORE THE HIGH PRIEST OF THE ALMIGHTY MONEYApr 03 16:39
MinceR;)Apr 03 16:39
qu1j0t3apparently.Apr 03 16:39
qu1j0t3"He says he's doing good. He's rich. Ergo we must trust him"Apr 03 16:40
MinceRjust like the bible says it's true so it's trueApr 03 16:40
schestowitzit's cyclic in another wayApr 03 16:42
schestowitzbible says God is trueApr 03 16:42
schestowitzand God gave the bibleApr 03 16:43
schestowitztherefore both are validated by a trusted sourceApr 03 16:43
qu1j0t3hhhahahahahahah :|Apr 03 16:44
qu1j0t3schestowitz: that's like CNN is validated by MSNBCApr 03 16:44
qu1j0t3'I saw it on CNN.' 'Ah, but that's CNN!' 'No, I read it in the NYT as well.' 'Ah ok, must be true.'Apr 03 16:44
qu1j0t3:<Apr 03 16:44
schestowitzwell, one is a news sourceApr 03 16:48
schestowitzof spin sourceApr 03 16:48
schestowitzthe other talks of miracles and genocide and stuffApr 03 16:49
schestowitzand afterlifeApr 03 16:49
schestowitzactually, the US mainstream talks of such stuff too, and coverd itApr 03 16:49
schestowitzthey'd cover even Loch Ness Monster crap if it ups the ratingsApr 03 16:49
schestowitzdoesn't matter if it's bollox, the aim of the programme is to encourage viewers to think it might be realApr 03 16:49
schestowitzHistory Channel seems a bit like it, which shocked me a littleApr 03 16:50
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they're all 'spin' sources.Apr 03 16:50
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I spoke to some people about regions of growthApr 03 16:50
schestowitzsome of them are BS Apr 03 16:50
qu1j0t3all of them are.Apr 03 16:50
schestowitzas in, unless you're in the elite, it's utter crapApr 03 16:50
schestowitzlike NYCApr 03 16:50
qu1j0t3ohApr 03 16:50
schestowitzmaybe unlike ZurichApr 03 16:50
qu1j0t3wait sorry i was about spin sources.Apr 03 16:51
schestowitz"just ignore all the slums"Apr 03 16:51
qu1j0t3rightApr 03 16:51
schestowitzVoila! Rich people, suits.Apr 03 16:51
qu1j0t3'that we created'Apr 03 16:51
schestowitzin some places the poverty is more prevalent than othersApr 03 16:51
qu1j0t3schestowitz: same in brazil. favelas are a result of the elite's grand theft from the people of brazil.Apr 03 16:51
qu1j0t3schestowitz: same in all oil-rich countries.Apr 03 16:51
schestowitzbit the financial centres dissociated themselves from itApr 03 16:51
qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's a heist. this includes Canada.Apr 03 16:51
schestowitzsomeitmes with fencesApr 03 16:51
schestowitzor relocating homeless peopleApr 03 16:51
schestowitzas they do in London or before the Canadian olympic gameApr 03 16:52
schestowitzto keep up the fantasy worldApr 03 16:52
qu1j0t3yep. Olympics/commonwealth games is also a way to co-opt public assetsApr 03 16:52
qu1j0t3just more toys for the eliteApr 03 16:52
schestowitzI spoke to a friend about it 2 weeks ago in London... they drive the homeless awayApr 03 16:52
qu1j0t3pretending to be some grand social projectApr 03 16:52
schestowitzlike an artificial diasporaApr 03 16:52
schestowitzrelocating the negativesApr 03 16:52
schestowitzfor the delusion to persistApr 03 16:53
schestowitzwhich i find very insultingApr 03 16:53
schestowitzit's like they're denied presence... they're worse than oppressedApr 03 16:53
schestowitzthey are being "disappeared"Apr 03 16:53
schestowitztoo lousy to be worth eating, also to be SEEN in publicApr 03 16:53
schestowitzadding insult to injuryApr 03 16:53
qu1j0t3while the elite created the problem int he first placeApr 03 16:53
qu1j0t3over decadesApr 03 16:54
qu1j0t3it's why londoners riotedApr 03 16:54
schestowitzthat exists not only in national levelApr 03 16:54
schestowitzbut also corporate levelApr 03 16:54
schestowitzsee apple/foxconnApr 03 16:54
schestowitzjust put some nets uoApr 03 16:54
schestowitzsay it's for leisureApr 03 16:54
schestowitzban camerasApr 03 16:54
schestowitzand pretend it's a happy toy factpryApr 03 16:54
schestowitzput people up on display queuing for jobsApr 03 16:54
schestowitzand then create the sense of allure, "we're actually doing them a favour!!!"Apr 03 16:55
schestowitzit's the Chinese version of "job creators"Apr 03 16:57
schestowitzaka "tax evaders"Apr 03 16:57
schestowitzglobalisation is so good for themApr 03 16:58
schestowitzthey can threaten to leave the nation/bankApr 03 16:58
schestowitzeven though they stash their cash in islands of .chApr 03 16:58
schestowitzand while normal people like me give away a third of the wage, these people are left paying nothingApr 03 16:58
schestowitzwhen in fact it's them who pick up all the profitsApr 03 16:59
schestowitzand don't complain about it, got to pay that mortgage, don't do any "crazy things" like joining a unionApr 03 16:59
qu1j0t3yep. socialise loss, privatise profit.Apr 03 17:00
schestowitzthe temperature here is about to go under zero again, just a week after summer-like weatherApr 03 17:00
schestowitzqu1j0t3: yeah, people are getting it nowApr 03 17:00
schestowitzin social networks I see this themeApr 03 17:00
qu1j0t3schestowitz: saw a suggestion on twitter, https://twitter.com/#!/Catballou/status/186947825756672001Apr 03 17:01
TechrightsSocial@Catballou: Start Using "Profitize" and stop using "Privatize" per A Call To Action http://t.co/Jev8Ee31 // I think these are excellent suggestions!Apr 03 17:01
TechrightsSocial-> Title: 3 More Words And Phrases Democrats Should Start Universally Using — And — A Call To Action | Crooks and Liars .::. Size~: 109.09 KBApr 03 17:01
schestowitzqu1j0t3: profitiseApr 03 17:01
schestowitzprifitiseApr 03 17:02
schestowitzprifiti$eApr 03 17:02
schestowitzproviti$eApr 03 17:02
qu1j0t3little minds get pi$$y if you use dollar $igns in word$Apr 03 17:09
qu1j0t3flips some mental $witchApr 03 17:10
qu1j0t3"$top critici$ing my hero Gate$"Apr 03 17:10
qu1j0t3"You $ocialists are all the $ame"Apr 03 17:10
qu1j0t3"activi$ts"Apr 03 17:10
qu1j0t3"terrori$sts"Apr 03 17:10
qu1j0t3oopsApr 03 17:10
MinceRlolApr 03 18:51
qu1j0t3:|Apr 03 19:03
MinceRnot sure if "profitize" is a good choice if you want negative connotations :>Apr 03 19:04
qu1j0t3but i see her pointApr 03 19:05
qu1j0t3right, certain extremi$ts see profit as the holy grail, it excuses everything, including poisoning your workers, killing innocents, etcApr 03 19:06
MinceRprofit is a rather general termApr 03 19:06
qu1j0t3so is privateApr 03 19:06
MinceRthe question is whose profit it is and at what cost does it comeApr 03 19:06
qu1j0t3right, but in 1 word that's hard to explain, especially when people don't want to know anywayApr 03 19:06
qu1j0t3i mean, crime or fraud work tooApr 03 19:07
MinceRat least "privatize" expresses what's happeningApr 03 19:07
MinceR"profitize" sounds like "to make profitable"Apr 03 19:07
qu1j0t3yeah but it's a euphemism, that's the problemApr 03 19:07
schestowitzI'm not too sure...Apr 03 19:08
schestowitzsee, many people already hate the term "privatise"Apr 03 19:08
MinceRyeahApr 03 19:08
schestowitznationalise - not so muchApr 03 19:08
schestowitzunless it's debtApr 03 19:08
MinceRkind of warranted, considering how they did it in hungaryApr 03 19:09
MinceRthen again, communising isn't positive eitherApr 03 19:09
schestowitzprivat?!Apr 03 19:09
qu1j0t3heheApr 03 19:11
qu1j0t3collectivisation is not a word one hears much these daysApr 03 19:11
qu1j0t3but privatisation is equally deadlyApr 03 19:11
qu1j0t3it's the same thing, in factApr 03 19:11
qu1j0t3creating serfs and taking their assetsApr 03 19:11
qu1j0t3that happened in Russia AFTER 1991Apr 03 19:12
qu1j0t3!!!!!Apr 03 19:12
qu1j0t3so they were fucked over a third timeApr 03 19:12
MinceRit could have gone better, when applied to property they've communized earlierApr 03 19:12
qu1j0t3NthApr 03 19:12
qu1j0t3i suppose same thing happened in hungary MinceR? after the end of soviet, you had oligarchs who stole the newly public assets?Apr 03 19:13
MinceRbut (at least in hungary) it went to people with connections and/or who paid bribes, not the original owners or their descendantsApr 03 19:13
qu1j0t3right.Apr 03 19:13
MinceRand the governing party is to this day proud of how they did itApr 03 19:13
qu1j0t3LOLApr 03 19:13
qu1j0t3yeahApr 03 19:13
MinceRfucking assholesApr 03 19:13
qu1j0t3agreedApr 03 19:13
qu1j0t3but it's a common patternApr 03 19:13
MinceR(well, except that party is no more)Apr 03 19:13
qu1j0t3right-wingers in the west are like thatApr 03 19:13
MinceR(it was MDF, its successor exists, called JESZ)Apr 03 19:13
MinceRmy family is a victim of thisApr 03 19:14
MinceRlike i said, socialists and national socialists are all the sameApr 03 19:14
qu1j0t3http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/06/understand-riots-communites-unrestApr 03 19:24
TechrightsSocialTitle: How not to understand the riots | Franklyn Addo | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 252.89 KBApr 03 19:24
MinceRhttp://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/funny-facebook-fails-less-exciting-than-what-comes-after.pngApr 03 19:46
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeApr 03 19:46
schestowitzhttp://frederickkaufman.typepad.com/frederick_kaufman/2012/04/to-the-united-nations-.htmlApr 03 19:50
TechrightsSocialTitle: AmericanStomach.com: To the United Nations . . . .::. Size~: 37.86 KBApr 03 19:50
schestowitz"I will be speaking to the General Assembly the morning of Wednesday, April 11th. Topic: Get the bankers out of our food supply! Will keep postings as the developments develop . . ."Apr 03 19:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1486940Apr 03 20:37
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu's HUD: Light-years beyond any menu system http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntus-hud-light-years-beyond-any-menu-system/3535 #ubuntu #gnu #linux #hudApr 03 20:37
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Ubuntu's HUD: Light-years beyond any menu system | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 150.22 KBApr 03 20:37
schestowitz"Except for **KDE Plasma**'s Krunner :D "Apr 03 20:37
schestowitz> Hi Roy,Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> I am curious if you are the administrator for this site:Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/irc-log-19092009.htmlApr 03 20:59
schestowitz> Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> I came across your page while I was doing some research. I recentlyApr 03 20:59
schestowitz> finished a resource on The History of the DEC that I think may be usefulApr 03 20:59
schestowitz> to you and your readers.Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> Could you please let me know if you are the correct person to contactApr 03 20:59
schestowitz> for potentially having a resource like this included on your page?Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> I appreciate your time in advance and hope you have a great day!Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> Best,Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> MeganApr 03 20:59
schestowitzHi Megan,Apr 03 20:59
schestowitzI would be please to add such a resource to techrights. Please feel free to pass me what you have at any time.Apr 03 20:59
schestowitz> *Hi Roy,Apr 03 21:37
schestowitz> Apr 03 21:37
schestowitz> Thanks for your response. You can find the resource here: History of DECApr 03 21:37
schestowitz> <http://www.accreditedonlinecolleges.net/history-of-the-digital-equipment-corporation-dec/>.Apr 03 21:37
schestowitz> I have contacted you because this is a resource that I thought would beApr 03 21:37
TechrightsSocialTitle: Nothing found for  History-of-the-digital-equipment-corporation-dec > .::. Size~: 24.21 KBApr 03 21:37
schestowitz> valuable to you and your readers. Please let me know if you have anyApr 03 21:37
schestowitz> questions. If interested, it would be great to see it listed as aApr 03 21:37
schestowitz> resource on your page.Apr 03 21:38
schestowitz> Apr 03 21:38
schestowitz> Thanks again for your time. I look forward to hearing back from you!Apr 03 21:38
schestowitz> Apr 03 21:38
schestowitz> Best,Apr 03 21:38
qu1j0t3weirdApr 03 21:38
schestowitz> Megan*Apr 03 21:38
schestowitzIf you like, I can add the text to our site, with attribution.Apr 03 21:38
schestowitzseems very SEO-ishApr 03 21:41
schestowitzthe siteApr 03 21:41
qu1j0t3yeahApr 03 21:41
qu1j0t3that's almost always what these contacts are aboutApr 03 21:41
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urwVVycMp8g&feature=digest_monApr 03 21:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: OVER 30 PERCENT OF US NOW NON-RELIGIOUS!!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 149.62 KBApr 03 21:58
schestowitzqu1j0t3: seems soApr 03 21:58
qu1j0t3 Title: OVER 30 PERCENT OF US NOW NON-RELIGIOUS!!   // but 70% stupid still voteApr 03 21:58
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyw2I5oKWqg&feature=relmfuApr 03 22:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: GAS PRICES!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 152.53 KBApr 03 22:30
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