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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell-social for http://TechRights.org | Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell | Apr 12 01:37 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Thu May 6 19:20:14 2010 | Apr 12 01:37 | |
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| TechrightsSocial | [02:56:15] Title: PHP: a fractal of bad design - fuzzy notepad .::. Size~: 76.3 KB [02:56:15] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [09:57:22] XFaCE: check my twitter. :/ [09:57:22] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [09:58:05] MinceR: as a full time 'php dev' (!!! :() i agree with that post [09:58:05] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [09:58:10] MinceR: drives me batshit [09:58:10] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [09:58:15] :> [09:58:15] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [09:58:38] i hacked up some php last year, iirc [09:58:38] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [09:59:18] could be worse, though [09:59:18] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [09:59:22] i didn't expect to be doing it in 2012. [09:59:22] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [09:59:24] could be asp or asp.net [09:59:24] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [09:59:47] i thought i'd kissed php goodbye in 2004. [09:59:47] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [09:59:54] :> [09:59:54] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [10:02:34] we have 200,000 LOC of it. [10:02:34] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [10:02:40] it's just shit all the way down. [10:02:40] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | [10:02:51] MinceR: i agree with the blog's premise that there are no redeeming features. [10:02:51] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:10:55] BT has a major cockup, many of my neighbours too lost their landline (and with it broadband, no matter the ISP) [10:10:55] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:11:59] BT didn't sort if out [10:11:59] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:12:00] they say some time by Fridat [10:12:00] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:12:02] Mark Taylor is typing... [10:12:02] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:12:18] took them long enough to get it sorted out too... [10:12:18] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:12:38] Just to let you know, I finally got back online. The dongle $employer gave me last year is not PAYG, I went to O2 shop today, they say I need to use my old SIM card [10:12:38] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:12:49] My last major screwup up here was a backhoe meeting the major fiberline for the state I am in. [10:12:49] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:14:05] schestowitz: hey should not BT be paying for the dongle. [10:14:05] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [10:14:11] like they say, "the big yello cable-finder machine" [10:14:11] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:14:16] schestowitz: here in Australia breach of service [10:14:16] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [10:14:17] s/llo/llow/ [10:14:17] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:14:31] my older dongle and SIM card seem to work for now [10:14:31] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:14:36] schestowitz: they contracted to provide now cannot so 3g or sat or any other method [10:14:36] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [10:14:40] oiaohm: maybe he doesn't want a BT dongle? :> [10:14:40] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:14:44] oiaohm: yeah [10:14:44] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:14:53] I phones them 3 times, like half an hour at most [10:14:53] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:14:59] They make excuses up [10:14:59] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:15:10] And the BT engs have not been here yet, they say they have [10:15:10] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:15:14] Australia is fairly blunt on it. [10:15:14] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:15:21] I know the person in BT I will send a complain to [10:15:21] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:15:23] I know the person in BT I will send a complaint to [10:15:23] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:15:25] Fairtrading will kick there ass badly here. [10:15:25] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:15:37] How us the UK equal to fair trading. [10:15:37] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:15:53] In a case like this I don't bother ringing the phone company more than once. [10:15:53] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:16:34] Australian fair trading has teeth. [10:16:34] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:17:05] So much so the ISP basically in case of outage normally first offer is to refund cost of ISP contract for the at least a month up front. [10:17:05] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:17:13] So you can make other arganements. [10:17:13] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:17:26] anyway, bottom line is, I'm not perfectly capable of working any time. Took me a while to set up the dongle for technical reasons, confusion, and miscommunication from BT (them trying to make it appear as though the connection to be fine "real soon now") [10:17:26] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:18:55] The cable by backhoe we could not all the ISP. [10:18:55] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:19:07] They had to use another carrier to call us. [10:19:07] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:19:39] True screw ups of screwups and it was like o opps. [10:19:39] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:19:51] But I have businesses where telstra has promised to have services active on X day. [10:19:51] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| oiaohm | [10:20:11] Fails then business cannot beleive the payouts that come to keep fairtrading off there back. [10:20:11] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [10:26:06] o2 smtp for mobile broadband is a pile of rubbish [10:26:06] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:00:36] my phone line is down, BT is major crap. I'll complain to them formally in a second. [11:00:36] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:14:59] A conversation [11:14:59] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:01] took place just /minutes/ ago. [11:15:01] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:10] It's me and the CEO [11:15:10] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:32] It turns [11:15:32] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:34] out that they want to promote me and they want me to come down to [11:15:34] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:35] London. [11:15:35] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:37] We'll talk about it thus/next month. In April 26th-27th I'm in [11:15:37] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:38] London, so I need to tell them the decision. :-) [11:15:38] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:40] Shall I come down to live in London? [11:15:40] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [11:15:50] I also just got some photos of the christening of my goddaughter [11:15:50] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:12:27] MinceR/ prurigro: do you have logs for this channel (since BT went titsup)? [13:12:27] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:42:50] https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1493698# [13:42:50] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | [13:42:51] Not a Diaspora post? [13:42:51] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:42:55] " [13:42:55] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:42:57] @Mbugua Iran has oil but it is entirely their business whether they want nuclear power or not. Its none of the US's business. They might want it for the lulz. You don't get to decide that for them. Whether or not Iran shall have nuclear power is the business of all human beings because of the dangers involved. As the Iranian decision-makers are only a handful of people, as opposed to the millions that compose the republics [13:42:57] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:42:58] which are against nuclear power, and thus the potential to create nuclear weapons in Iranian hands. [13:42:58] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:00] About the "wiping" quote: First of all, the very same translation is still present on the official homepage of Ahmadinedjad. And if it's still a wrong translation, well here's another rather new statement from Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, religious and political leader: [13:43:00] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:01] It is a “‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.” [13:43:01] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:03] Next, no matter how many fallacies the US have committed, no matter how many wars started, it won't change that you're trying to use it as a straw man just as the OP picture does: Suggesting that the US must not mess with Iranian politics because of the only numbers, if tweaked a little and generously separated from their original context, seemingly providing a better moral position for the Iran. Considering what the Iranian [13:43:03] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:04] government does to its own people, I find this disgusting. [13:43:04] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:06] Also, if you continue to use straw man arguments, continued discussion is pointless. [13:43:06] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:07] I don't accept the links you gave for gender and for democracy . Its one thing to quote wikipedia and some ngo, but who says they are credible. [13:43:07] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:09] You're on very thin ice as you fail to provide any counter arguments. [13:43:09] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:10] Also, to quote from the very same website: The first Human Development Report introduced a new way of measuring development by combining indicators of life expectancy, educational attainment and income into a composite human development index, the HDI. [13:43:10] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:12] I don't see how any of the three pillars of the index has anything to do with my original claims, nor with democracy, due process based justice systems or gender equality. [13:43:12] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:13] About your videos... Press TV takes revolutionary steps as the first Iranian international news network, broadcasting in English on a round-the-clock basis. [13:43:13] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:15] That's fucking Iranian propaganda channel. Are you kidding me? [13:43:15] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:16] " [13:43:16] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:18] " [13:43:18] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:19] @Mbugua Iran has oil but it is entirely their business whether they want nuclear power or not. Its none of the US's business. They might want it for the lulz. You don't get to decide that for them. Whether or not Iran shall have nuclear power is the business of all human beings because of the dangers involved. As the Iranian decision-makers are only a handful of people, as opposed to the millions that compose the republics [13:43:19] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:21] which are against nuclear power, and thus the potential to create nuclear weapons in Iranian hands. [13:43:21] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:22] About the "wiping" quote: First of all, the very same translation is still present on the official homepage of Ahmadinedjad. And if it's still a wrong translation, well here's another rather new statement from Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, religious and political leader: [13:43:22] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:24] It is a “‘jurisprudential justification” to kill all the Jews and annihilate Israel, and in that, the Islamic government of Iran must take the helm.” [13:43:24] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:25] Next, no matter how many fallacies the US have committed, no matter how many wars started, it won't change that you're trying to use it as a straw man just as the OP picture does: Suggesting that the US must not mess with Iranian politics because of the only numbers, if tweaked a little and generously separated from their original context, seemingly providing a better moral position for the Iran. Considering what the Iranian [13:43:25] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:27] government does to its own people, I find this disgusting. [13:43:27] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:28] Also, if you continue to use straw man arguments, continued discussion is pointless. [13:43:28] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:30] I don't accept the links you gave for gender and for democracy . Its one thing to quote wikipedia and some ngo, but who says they are credible. [13:43:30] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:31] You're on very thin ice as you fail to provide any counter arguments. [13:43:31] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:33] Also, to quote from the very same website: The first Human Development Report introduced a new way of measuring development by combining indicators of life expectancy, educational attainment and income into a composite human development index, the HDI. [13:43:33] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:34] I don't see how any of the three pillars of the index has anything to do with my original claims, nor with democracy, due process based justice systems or gender equality. [13:43:34] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:36] About your videos... Press TV takes revolutionary steps as the first Iranian international news network, broadcasting in English on a round-the-clock basis. [13:43:36] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:37] That's fucking Iranian propaganda channel. Are you kidding me? [13:43:37] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:39] " [13:43:39] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:40] "Oh, and about the Clinton quote, The US consistently uses the formula of "all options are on the table" meaning nuclear war options included.: It is a very bold conclusion to assume that something which leads to inevitable, mutually assured destruction is considered an "option" to a country other than a madman regime - and further conclude the US would want to eradicate all of Iran, just because - in other words - they did [13:43:40] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [13:43:42] not explicitly exclude what is obviously out of question." [13:43:42] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [14:01:34] schestowitz: i do [14:01:34] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [15:01:29] MinceR: thanks, pls hold on to it, we'll need it later (when the BT crapstorm is finished and they fix the exchange) :-) [15:01:29] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| MinceR | [15:01:53] ok [15:01:53] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| prurigro | [18:46:13] schestowitz, MinceR I believe I do as well if anything is missing on yours MinceR [18:46:13] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| schestowitz | [18:49:19] prurigro: thanks, I'll need those when my landline and Ethernet come back, I'm on cellphone networks at the moment [18:49:19] | Apr 12 01:37 |
| prurigro | [18:49:33] oh ouch [18:49:33] | Apr 12 01:37 |
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| schestowitz | I see that the lin**** trolls hit the techrights channel while I was offline | Apr 12 04:28 |
| schestowitz | Probably not a coincidence, they chose their time | Apr 12 04:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I got my wired connection back, any way you can mail me logs of this channel for the past 48 hours (and if anything happened in #boycottnovell, then that too)? I got backup for #techrights on a separate box (Canada). | Apr 12 04:29 |
| MinceR | yes | Apr 12 04:29 |
| MinceR | so, that would be logs for 2012-04-10..12? | Apr 12 04:30 |
| schestowitz | thanks so much! :-) | Apr 12 04:30 |
| MinceR | np | Apr 12 04:30 |
| schestowitz | yeah, or 9th, I'd merge with what I have | Apr 12 04:30 |
| MinceR | ok | Apr 12 04:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1511032# | Apr 12 05:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: KDE Voted The Most Popular Desktop Environment http://www.muktware.com/articles/3518/kde-voted-most-popular-desktop-environment #kde #linux | Apr 12 05:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: KDE Voted The Most Popular Desktop Environment | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.56 KB | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | "I'm kind of surprised. I really thought Gnome dominated due to Ubuntu's popularity..." | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | "Not really surprised here - KDE indeed is the most flexible DE. On the other hand it's a limited result (visitors of a particular site), so I don't expect it to show the full picture." | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | "From most things I've seen I always thought Gnome would be too, but then again I don't know what kind of croud took the poll, you might get a different answer on another site, but then again maybe more people switched to KDE when Gnome 3 came out? I don't know, I like Unity myself, it's set up how I always set up every other desktop with a dock :D However I do like Gnome3's overview a lot more then Unities Dash, if you could | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | have the Gnome3 dashboard replace unities home lens, that would be awesome :P" | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1511109# | Apr 12 05:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Linux 2.4 Hits the End of the Line http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/linux-2.4-hits-the-end-of-the-line.html #kernel | Apr 12 05:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Linux 2.4 Hits the End of the Line - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 32.59 KB | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | "Wow! 2.4 really hung in there for a long time! How many years? More than 10?" | Apr 12 05:16 |
| schestowitz | Old RHEL uses it | Apr 12 05:17 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/hXa8x | Apr 12 08:48 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: So .... Chomsky - Imgur .::. Size~: 9.58 KB | Apr 12 08:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 12 08:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512764 | Apr 12 10:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Truth and realism "useless to society"? http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Atheism-on-its-own-is-useless-to-society-20120407 like saying gravity does not help morals. | Apr 12 10:00 |
| schestowitz | "Well, it all depends on your definition of "atheism". The two common definitions are : - someone that does not believe any god exists - someone that believes no god exists This may seem a very small difference, but that's all it takes from the lack of idea on a topic to « truth and realism ». " | Apr 12 10:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Atheism on its own is useless to society | News24 .::. Size~: 146.4 KB | Apr 12 10:00 |
| schestowitz | That article contains that fallacy that morality requires making stuff up. | Apr 12 10:02 |
| MinceR | the usual crap | Apr 12 10:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512394 | Apr 12 10:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How Canonical's next moves could repaint the Linux landscape http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-canonicals-next-moves-could-repaint-the-linux-landscape/3550 #ubuntu | Apr 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz | "A positive article overall but unfortunately misrepresents #Ubuntu as #Linux. Time to drop the L word ;) " | Apr 12 10:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: How Canonical's next moves could repaint the Linux landscape | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 154.55 KB | Apr 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz | "drop the L word" | Apr 12 10:35 |
| schestowitz | "Open Source @OSBC is now following you (@schestowitz). " | Apr 12 10:54 |
| schestowitz | OSBC | Apr 12 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Sponsored by MS | Apr 12 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Run by Mac Asay | Apr 12 10:54 |
| schestowitz | in the past | Apr 12 10:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | :| | Apr 12 10:55 |
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| MinceR | http://cdn.pidjin.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/281-snowboarding22.jpg | Apr 12 14:06 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Apr 12 14:06 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 12 17:39 |
| schestowitz | LMAO | Apr 12 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512851 | Apr 12 17:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Android tablets are taking over the space, but #gizmodo is not keeping up with the facts http://gizmodo.com/5900648/dear-android-tablet-makers-stay-crazy | Apr 12 17:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Dear Android Tablets: Stay Crazy .::. Size~: 89.71 KB | Apr 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz | "Gizmodo is fucking horrible. Bunch of ass-kissing macfags. " | Apr 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512673 | Apr 12 17:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why #Vista8 will fail http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2012/04/10/demotivational-posters-history-2/ | Apr 12 17:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: HISTORY - Very Demotivational - The Demotivational Posters Blog .::. Size~: 172.35 KB | Apr 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz | "*Windows 8 " | Apr 12 17:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Also called "vNext" (srsly) | Apr 12 17:50 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Apr 12 17:59 |
| schestowitz | seriously? | Apr 12 17:59 |
| *qu1j0t3 dubs it vGone | Apr 12 18:01 | |
| MinceR | rhymes with beGone | Apr 12 18:12 |
| XFaCE | !google windows vnext | Apr 12 18:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Windows 8 (Windows vNext) Riskiest Product Bet for Microsoft ... | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-8-Windows-vNext-Riskiest-Product-Bet-for-Microsoft-162499.shtml | Apr 12 18:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Windows vNext - news tag - Softpedia | http://news.softpedia.com/newsTag/Windows%2BvNext | Apr 12 18:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Windows “vNext” PDC 2011 scheduled for September 13-16 ... | http://www.winrumors.com/windows-vnext-pdc-2011-scheduled-for-september-13-16/ | Apr 12 18:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Windows vNext with native ARM support paves way for a unified ... | http://www.istartedsomething.com/20110107/windows-with-arm-paves-way-for-a-unified-kernel/ | Apr 12 18:14 |
| prurigro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINQYkl01N8 | Apr 12 18:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: CJDNS author tells slashRoot about the future of the Internet - YouTube .::. Size~: 97.87 KB | Apr 12 18:15 |
| MinceR | if he likes Fedora, he's ender? :> | Apr 12 18:15 |
| MinceR | i hope not | Apr 12 18:15 |
| prurigro | lol, yea, that convo's giving me a bit of a headache lol | Apr 12 18:19 |
| prurigro | you should check out that video I just posted-- its the project XFaCE and I have been following | Apr 12 18:20 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Ender made his own Fedora derivative | Apr 12 18:20 |
| MinceR | what's it called? | Apr 12 18:21 |
| prurigro | cjdns | Apr 12 18:21 |
| prurigro | https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns | Apr 12 18:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: cjdelisle/cjdns · GitHub .::. Size~: 65.54 KB | Apr 12 18:21 |
| prurigro | http://hyperboria.net/ is the clearnet end of one of the main websites | Apr 12 18:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Hyperboria.net - the decentralized network powered by CJDNS .::. Size~: 6.19 KB | Apr 12 18:21 |
| prurigro | for the network itself | Apr 12 18:21 |
| MinceR | i meant the name of ender's distro :> | Apr 12 18:22 |
| prurigro | oh haha | Apr 12 18:22 |
| prurigro | I think I had a link to it like a million years ago | Apr 12 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | what's the point of it? | Apr 12 18:23 |
| prurigro | it was just whatever fedora was around at the time with all the packages updated to the latest versions iirc | Apr 12 18:24 |
| prurigro | basically, why not just go arch? ;) | Apr 12 18:24 |
| MinceR | because fedora is superior | Apr 12 18:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 12 18:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | HAHAHAH | Apr 12 18:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, depends what you are doing. | Apr 12 18:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | in some situations, source based has compelling advantages, i believe this has been discussed here before. | Apr 12 18:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | but for most people, rpm/deb is ok | Apr 12 18:26 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: you aren't runing a distro? | Apr 12 18:27 |
| XFaCE | :P | Apr 12 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: i mean, source based distro, or Arch | Apr 12 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | at $WORK we happen to run Fedora on our 40 VPS servers | Apr 12 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | but that wasn't my choice :) | Apr 12 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | it does give us certain headaches by being binary | Apr 12 18:28 |
| *XFaCE is now known as _Brandon_ | Apr 12 18:28 | |
| qu1j0t3 | but we'll survive | Apr 12 18:28 |
| *_Brandon_ is now known as XFaCE | Apr 12 18:28 | |
| *XFaCE is now known as Johnny | Apr 12 18:28 | |
| *qu1j0t3 smells shenanigans | Apr 12 18:28 | |
| *Johnny is now known as Tommy_from_Power | Apr 12 18:29 | |
| *Tommy_from_Power is now known as XFaCE | Apr 12 18:29 | |
| *XFaCE is now known as _formic | Apr 12 18:30 | |
| prurigro | XFaCE, lol, why do you keep changing your name? | Apr 12 18:30 |
| *_formic is now known as GoForbes28 | Apr 12 18:31 | |
| *GoForbes28 is now known as XFaCE | Apr 12 18:31 | |
| schestowitz | troll in the #techrights channel | Apr 12 18:38 |
| schestowitz | the channel's topic was subverted | Apr 12 18:38 |
| MinceR | i think it's hilarious | Apr 12 18:39 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I mean your ctcp version doesn't give a distro | Apr 12 18:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Bill and Melinda Gates dropped out of ALEC | Apr 12 18:50 |
| XFaCE | Guess it didn't fit their overall agenda | Apr 12 18:50 |
| XFaCE | Will all the Gates are doing, do they even need Alec? :P | Apr 12 18:50 |
| prurigro | MinceR, you use fedora? | Apr 12 18:57 |
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| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: it happens to be CentOS, but not my choice | Apr 12 20:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: I use Gentoo, when I have a choice. | Apr 12 20:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | haven't used Debian for 10 yrs | Apr 12 20:28 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: gentoo eh | Apr 12 20:44 |
| XFaCE | Last person I knew used that fried his wireless card | Apr 12 20:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | good for him :) | Apr 12 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | there are reasons why i prefer it. | Apr 12 20:49 |
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| END MERGE WITH CANADA LOG DUE TO DOWNTIME | ||
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell-social | Apr 12 09:11 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell-social for http://TechRights.org | Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell | Apr 12 09:11 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Apr 12 09:11 | |
| schestowitz | I see that the lin**** trolls hit the techrights channel while I was offline | Apr 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Probably not a coincidence, they chose their time | Apr 12 09:28 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I got my wired connection back, any way you can mail me logs of this channel for the past 48 hours (and if anything happened in #boycottnovell, then that too)? I got backup for #techrights on a separate box (Canada). | Apr 12 09:29 |
| MinceR | yes | Apr 12 09:29 |
| MinceR | so, that would be logs for 2012-04-10..12? | Apr 12 09:30 |
| schestowitz | thanks so much! :-) | Apr 12 09:30 |
| MinceR | np | Apr 12 09:30 |
| schestowitz | yeah, or 9th, I'd merge with what I have | Apr 12 09:30 |
| MinceR | ok | Apr 12 09:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1511032# | Apr 12 10:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: KDE Voted The Most Popular Desktop Environment http://www.muktware.com/articles/3518/kde-voted-most-popular-desktop-environment #kde #linux | Apr 12 10:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: KDE Voted The Most Popular Desktop Environment | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.56 KB | Apr 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz | "I'm kind of surprised. I really thought Gnome dominated due to Ubuntu's popularity..." | Apr 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz | "Not really surprised here - KDE indeed is the most flexible DE. On the other hand it's a limited result (visitors of a particular site), so I don't expect it to show the full picture." | Apr 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz | "From most things I've seen I always thought Gnome would be too, but then again I don't know what kind of croud took the poll, you might get a different answer on another site, but then again maybe more people switched to KDE when Gnome 3 came out? I don't know, I like Unity myself, it's set up how I always set up every other desktop with a dock :D However I do like Gnome3's overview a lot more then Unities Dash, if you could | Apr 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz | have the Gnome3 dashboard replace unities home lens, that would be awesome :P" | Apr 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1511109# | Apr 12 10:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Linux 2.4 Hits the End of the Line http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/linux-2.4-hits-the-end-of-the-line.html #kernel | Apr 12 10:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Linux 2.4 Hits the End of the Line - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 32.59 KB | Apr 12 10:16 |
| schestowitz | "Wow! 2.4 really hung in there for a long time! How many years? More than 10?" | Apr 12 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Old RHEL uses it | Apr 12 10:17 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/hXa8x | Apr 12 13:48 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: So .... Chomsky - Imgur .::. Size~: 9.58 KB | Apr 12 13:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 12 13:48 |
| *abeNd-org (~KKlenke@mail.saturnroad.org) has joined #boycottnovell-social | Apr 12 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512764 | Apr 12 15:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Truth and realism "useless to society"? http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/Atheism-on-its-own-is-useless-to-society-20120407 like saying gravity does not help morals. | Apr 12 15:00 |
| schestowitz | "Well, it all depends on your definition of "atheism". The two common definitions are : - someone that does not believe any god exists - someone that believes no god exists This may seem a very small difference, but that's all it takes from the lack of idea on a topic to « truth and realism ». " | Apr 12 15:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Atheism on its own is useless to society | News24 .::. Size~: 146.4 KB | Apr 12 15:00 |
| schestowitz | That article contains that fallacy that morality requires making stuff up. | Apr 12 15:03 |
| MinceR | the usual crap | Apr 12 15:06 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512394 | Apr 12 15:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How Canonical's next moves could repaint the Linux landscape http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-canonicals-next-moves-could-repaint-the-linux-landscape/3550 #ubuntu | Apr 12 15:35 |
| schestowitz | "A positive article overall but unfortunately misrepresents #Ubuntu as #Linux. Time to drop the L word ;) " | Apr 12 15:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: How Canonical's next moves could repaint the Linux landscape | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 154.55 KB | Apr 12 15:35 |
| schestowitz | "drop the L word" | Apr 12 15:36 |
| schestowitz | "Open Source @OSBC is now following you (@schestowitz). " | Apr 12 15:54 |
| schestowitz | OSBC | Apr 12 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Sponsored by MS | Apr 12 15:54 |
| schestowitz | Run by Mac Asay | Apr 12 15:54 |
| schestowitz | in the past | Apr 12 15:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | :| | Apr 12 15:55 |
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| MinceR | http://cdn.pidjin.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/281-snowboarding22.jpg | Apr 12 19:06 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Apr 12 19:06 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 12 22:39 |
| schestowitz | LMAO | Apr 12 22:39 |
| *abeNd-org has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | Apr 12 22:40 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512851 | Apr 12 22:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Android tablets are taking over the space, but #gizmodo is not keeping up with the facts http://gizmodo.com/5900648/dear-android-tablet-makers-stay-crazy | Apr 12 22:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Dear Android Tablets: Stay Crazy .::. Size~: 89.71 KB | Apr 12 22:40 |
| schestowitz | "Gizmodo is fucking horrible. Bunch of ass-kissing macfags. " | Apr 12 22:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1512673 | Apr 12 22:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why #Vista8 will fail http://verydemotivational.memebase.com/2012/04/10/demotivational-posters-history-2/ | Apr 12 22:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: HISTORY - Very Demotivational - The Demotivational Posters Blog .::. Size~: 172.35 KB | Apr 12 22:41 |
| schestowitz | "*Windows 8 " | Apr 12 22:41 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Also called "vNext" (srsly) | Apr 12 22:50 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Apr 12 22:59 |
| schestowitz | seriously? | Apr 12 22:59 |
| *qu1j0t3 dubs it vGone | Apr 12 23:02 | |
| MinceR | rhymes with beGone | Apr 12 23:12 |
| XFaCE | !google windows vnext | Apr 12 23:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Windows 8 (Windows vNext) Riskiest Product Bet for Microsoft ... | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-8-Windows-vNext-Riskiest-Product-Bet-for-Microsoft-162499.shtml | Apr 12 23:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Windows vNext - news tag - Softpedia | http://news.softpedia.com/newsTag/Windows%2BvNext | Apr 12 23:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Windows “vNext” PDC 2011 scheduled for September 13-16 ... | http://www.winrumors.com/windows-vnext-pdc-2011-scheduled-for-september-13-16/ | Apr 12 23:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Windows vNext with native ARM support paves way for a unified ... | http://www.istartedsomething.com/20110107/windows-with-arm-paves-way-for-a-unified-kernel/ | Apr 12 23:14 |
| prurigro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINQYkl01N8 | Apr 12 23:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: CJDNS author tells slashRoot about the future of the Internet - YouTube .::. Size~: 97.87 KB | Apr 12 23:15 |
| MinceR | if he likes Fedora, he's ender? :> | Apr 12 23:16 |
| MinceR | i hope not | Apr 12 23:16 |
| prurigro | lol, yea, that convo's giving me a bit of a headache lol | Apr 12 23:20 |
| prurigro | you should check out that video I just posted-- its the project XFaCE and I have been following | Apr 12 23:20 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Ender made his own Fedora derivative | Apr 12 23:20 |
| MinceR | what's it called? | Apr 12 23:21 |
| prurigro | cjdns | Apr 12 23:21 |
| prurigro | https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns | Apr 12 23:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: cjdelisle/cjdns · GitHub .::. Size~: 65.54 KB | Apr 12 23:21 |
| prurigro | http://hyperboria.net/ is the clearnet end of one of the main websites | Apr 12 23:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Hyperboria.net - the decentralized network powered by CJDNS .::. Size~: 6.19 KB | Apr 12 23:21 |
| prurigro | for the network itself | Apr 12 23:22 |
| MinceR | i meant the name of ender's distro :> | Apr 12 23:22 |
| prurigro | oh haha | Apr 12 23:23 |
| prurigro | I think I had a link to it like a million years ago | Apr 12 23:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | what's the point of it? | Apr 12 23:24 |
| prurigro | it was just whatever fedora was around at the time with all the packages updated to the latest versions iirc | Apr 12 23:24 |
| prurigro | basically, why not just go arch? ;) | Apr 12 23:25 |
| MinceR | because fedora is superior | Apr 12 23:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 12 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | HAHAHAH | Apr 12 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, depends what you are doing. | Apr 12 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | in some situations, source based has compelling advantages, i believe this has been discussed here before. | Apr 12 23:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | but for most people, rpm/deb is ok | Apr 12 23:26 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: you aren't runing a distro? | Apr 12 23:27 |
| XFaCE | :P | Apr 12 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: i mean, source based distro, or Arch | Apr 12 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | at $WORK we happen to run Fedora on our 40 VPS servers | Apr 12 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | but that wasn't my choice :) | Apr 12 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | it does give us certain headaches by being binary | Apr 12 23:28 |
| *XFaCE is now known as _Brandon_ | Apr 12 23:28 | |
| qu1j0t3 | but we'll survive | Apr 12 23:28 |
| *_Brandon_ is now known as XFaCE | Apr 12 23:28 | |
| *XFaCE is now known as Johnny | Apr 12 23:28 | |
| *qu1j0t3 smells shenanigans | Apr 12 23:29 | |
| *Johnny is now known as Tommy_from_Power | Apr 12 23:29 | |
| *Tommy_from_Power is now known as XFaCE | Apr 12 23:29 | |
| *XFaCE is now known as _formic | Apr 12 23:30 | |
| prurigro | XFaCE, lol, why do you keep changing your name? | Apr 12 23:31 |
| *_formic is now known as GoForbes28 | Apr 12 23:31 | |
| *GoForbes28 is now known as XFaCE | Apr 12 23:31 | |
| schestowitz | troll in the #techrights channel | Apr 12 23:39 |
| schestowitz | the channel's topic was subverted | Apr 12 23:39 |
| MinceR | i think it's hilarious | Apr 12 23:39 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I mean your ctcp version doesn't give a distro | Apr 12 23:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Bill and Melinda Gates dropped out of ALEC | Apr 12 23:50 |
| XFaCE | Guess it didn't fit their overall agenda | Apr 12 23:50 |
| XFaCE | Will all the Gates are doing, do they even need Alec? :P | Apr 12 23:51 |
| prurigro | MinceR, you use fedora? | Apr 12 23:57 |
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