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XFaCEhttp://www.e-activist.com:80/ea-campaign/broadcast.response.do?ea.url.id=85065&ea.campaigner.email=oJmexBQAc0yHPgOadhxb6bYgAGZn3nma2t8RM2eLScw=&ea_broadcast_target_id=0Apr 17 01:35
TechrightsSocialTitle: Please help us expose the Conservatives' big CBC lie | Friends of Canadian Broadcasting .::. Size~: 18.42 KBApr 17 01:35
XFaCEqu1j0t3: this one's for youApr 17 01:39
abeNd-orghttp://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=13003Apr 17 01:57
TechrightsSocialTitle: ISC Diary | McAfee DAT troubles .::. Size~: 18.2 KBApr 17 01:57
abeNd-orgseems like more often than not all AV vendors have issues like thatApr 17 01:57
abeNd-orgmcafee more than most :PApr 17 01:58
prurigrowow, people still use anti virus software? I remember having to frig with that stuff back in the 90sApr 17 02:43
qu1j0t3LOLApr 17 02:50
qu1j0t3prurigro: yeahApr 17 02:50
qu1j0t3prurigro: as in yeah i avoid it as well.Apr 17 02:51
prurigrohahaApr 17 03:05
prurigroI don't think I could install one if I wanted toApr 17 03:05
prurigroI wonder how wine would treat thatApr 17 03:06
prurigrohttps://lkml.org/lkml/2012/4/15/112Apr 17 03:06
TechrightsSocialTitle: LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [ 00/78] 3.3.2-stable review .::. Size~: 11.63 KBApr 17 03:06
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MinceRhttp://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/75/2012/04/16/110017_600.jpgApr 17 09:10
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1527892Apr 17 09:19
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More FUD About Security of GNU/Linux http://mrpogson.com/2012/04/14/more-fud-about-security-of-gnulinux/ IDG's anti-Linux troll is still trolling for hits?Apr 17 09:19
TechrightsSocial-> Title: More FUD About Security of GNU/Linux at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 108.28 KBApr 17 09:19
schestowitz" Everyone should read this comment as well: http://mrpogson.com/2012/04/14/more-fud-about-security-of-gnulinux/#comment-88176  "Apr 17 09:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: Page not found Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 23.59 KBApr 17 09:19
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MinceRhttp://www.nurbilder.com/pics/55d7dc657ec9c60727.jpgApr 17 12:09
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schestowitzI saw this last yearApr 17 12:12
MinceR:)Apr 17 12:12
oiaohmMinceR: really that picture more suites Window users.Apr 17 12:13
schestowitzbut they don't deny issues as muchApr 17 12:13
oiaohmReally??Apr 17 12:14
MinceRwinblows users are less likely to deny hardware issuesApr 17 12:14
MinceRand less likely to experience themApr 17 12:15
oiaohmNot really.Apr 17 12:15
MinceRsince crApple hardware is bottom-end qualityApr 17 12:15
oiaohmI know that about one in 1/10 PC go out the door with defective part somewhereApr 17 12:15
oiaohmOnly about 1/100 come back.Apr 17 12:15
MinceRcrApple PCs all go out with severe design flaws touted as featuresApr 17 12:15
MinceRlike the MagUnsafe connectorApr 17 12:15
oiaohmMinceR: apple has not shipped with expoding batteries yet.Apr 17 12:16
oiaohmBasically apple stuff has been minorly unsafe but some dell stuff was out to kill you.Apr 17 12:17
oiaohmWorst part was dell had to employ a team to track down the last units.Apr 17 12:18
oiaohmPC users are just as good at putting head in sand as others.Apr 17 12:18
oiaohmhttp://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2012/04/10/mozilla-open-badges-beta/  Wonder how long before exploided for no good.Apr 17 12:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: Mozilla Open Badges ships Beta release | The Mozilla Blog .::. Size~: 30.49 KBApr 17 12:20
MinceRoiaohm: yes they have.Apr 17 12:25
MinceRat least in hypePhones.Apr 17 12:25
MinceRand yes, dHell is bad, but afaict it's not as bad as crApple.Apr 17 12:25
oiaohmMinceR: yes there is worseApr 17 12:25
oiaohmGet worryed when the motherboard in a PC contains no brandingApr 17 12:26
oiaohmThe case contains no brandingApr 17 12:26
oiaohmYou can bet the board is foxconn reject with evil issues from hell,Apr 17 12:26
oiaohmYet person comes in claiming that there computer was working fine up until a few days ago.Apr 17 12:26
MinceRclarification: above i implied that winblows users use winblows on non-crApple hardware. what i said does not apply to winblows users on crApple hardware. :>Apr 17 12:27
MinceR:)Apr 17 12:27
oiaohmNote the hardware I am talking about is cheap china import crap that turns up here.Apr 17 12:27
oiaohmIts not even certified for use in AustraliaApr 17 12:27
MinceR:)Apr 17 12:29
oiaohmBest was one with a 120 v power supply in it.Apr 17 12:29
oiaohmof course we are 240Apr 17 12:30
oiaohmAnd the person was trying to claim it worked.Apr 17 12:30
MinceRlolApr 17 12:30
oiaohmEven worse that it was one of the machines we had sold.Apr 17 12:30
MinceRdoes dHell use such foxconn reject components?Apr 17 12:30
oiaohmNo dell has some quality controls.Apr 17 12:30
MinceR:)Apr 17 12:30
oiaohmFoxconn reject components can be missing complete chips.Apr 17 12:31
oiaohmSo of course they don't work right.Apr 17 12:31
oiaohmEven half solders on chips is not strange or board warped Apr 17 12:32
MinceRooh, just like a crApple III :>Apr 17 12:32
oiaohmFirst generation xbox360 would be closeApr 17 12:32
oiaohmWhere foxconn forgot to include the paste under the heat sinks.Apr 17 12:33
oiaohmSo they kinda did not work.Apr 17 12:33
MinceR:)Apr 17 12:36
oiaohmMost scary I found was a secure system with its themmite destruction system for harddrive still fitted.Apr 17 12:45
oiaohmSomehow sold out to general public.Apr 17 12:45
oiaohmYes it kinda has the police going you need the bomb squad to disarm what.Apr 17 12:46
oiaohmMinceR: yes the fun of being near a mil base at times odd hardware turns up with extras you hope to never find.Apr 17 12:50
MinceR:)Apr 17 12:52
oiaohmMind you I have been lucky.Apr 17 12:53
oiaohmThe most scary that I did not find was someone had pranked the computer with a smoke bomb.Apr 17 12:53
oiaohmIe open case and have the world worse smoke problem.Apr 17 12:53
oiaohmMinceR: I guess you never have the problem of the opps this case is a true live one?Apr 17 12:57
MinceRnopeApr 17 12:58
MinceRi'm a software developer, i don't support hardware, except sometimes for myself :>Apr 17 12:58
oiaohmI do a mixture of different things.Apr 17 12:58
oiaohmI support hardware when there is not enough software development or they are simply run under and my project is not that important.Apr 17 12:59
oiaohmReason why I don't get to find some of the worst.Apr 17 12:59
MinceR:)Apr 17 12:59
oiaohmOf course new trainees being give case with alarm inside complain about itApr 17 13:00
oiaohmUntil we show the the books of photos of the nightmare they might have opened.Apr 17 13:00
oiaohmSo the alarm teachs them to inspect case a little closer before opening.Apr 17 13:01
schestowitzhttp://gizmodo.com/5902361/windows-phone-get-your-shit-togetherApr 17 13:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Dear Windows Phone: Get Your Shit Together .::. Size~: 88.99 KBApr 17 13:01
schestowitz"We love Windows Phone. It was a hugely important step forward for how people think about phones."Apr 17 13:01
schestowitzLOLApr 17 13:01
oiaohmReally windows 8 phones are going to be the interesting one.Apr 17 13:02
schestowitz"We love New Microsoft, the benevolent tech giant playing like a lightweight:"Apr 17 13:02
schestowitzNew MicrosoftApr 17 13:02
schestowitzGimme a breakApr 17 13:02
oiaohmMS cannot afford the black hole that CE is going to become.Apr 17 13:02
schestowitzthe ona that's right now corrupting the UK govt.Apr 17 13:03
oiaohmOnly a hand ful of socs support windows phone 7Apr 17 13:03
MinceRi don't think winblows phone changed the way people think about phonesApr 17 13:06
MinceRhypeOS already made them think of paperweightsApr 17 13:06
XFaCEWindows vNextApr 17 13:34
XFaCE"Vista?! NEXT!"Apr 17 13:35
MinceRvYetAnotherApr 17 13:35
schestowitz<Try Vista 7Apr 17 13:35
MinceRvMoreOfTheSameApr 17 13:35
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdfApr 17 13:36
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schestowitz""In the face of strong competition, Evangelism's focus may shift immediately to the next version of the same technology, however. Indeed, Phase 1 (Evangelism Starts) for version x+1 may start as soon as this Final Release of version X.""Apr 17 13:36
XFaCENow it's X+Y where Y = .C*10Apr 17 13:37
XFaCE:)Apr 17 13:38
MinceR"yeah, it's out and it's not as great as we said it would be. but just wait until the next version!"Apr 17 13:39
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MinceRhttp://www.extralol.com/images/dfd95edbc0fb1fd3afd385465cebf3d6.jpgApr 17 15:17
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schestowitzCRTL+ESCApr 17 16:18
schestowitzlinsux**m trollery in d*Apr 17 16:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1527930Apr 17 16:37
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: [Pre-Alpha] Terasology, A Free and Open Source Minecraft Inspired Game Engine  http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/04/pre-alpha-terasology-free-and-open.html #gamesApr 17 16:37
TechrightsSocial-> Title: [Pre-Alpha] Terasology, A Free and Open Source Minecraft Inspired Game Engine ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates .::. Size~: 215.95 KBApr 17 16:37
schestowitz"C++ is a mess. "Apr 17 16:37
schestowitz"They should've used mono. :P "Apr 17 16:37
qu1j0t3no shitApr 17 16:37
XFaCEschestowitz: BZFlag will still not use MonoApr 17 16:56
XFaCEschestowitz: Unfortunately, 2.4.2 will likely be the last release. EvverApr 17 16:56
XFaCEschestowitz: why can't Techrights have a BZFlag server? :DApr 17 16:56
XFaCEschestowitz: We'd get more trafficApr 17 16:56
XFaCEand you could put dents in the chat window!Apr 17 16:57
XFaCE"X killed Y with laser"Apr 17 16:57
XFaCE"G shot T"Apr 17 16:57
XFaCE"[schestowitz@identi]http://link Microsoft is terrible"Apr 17 16:58
XFaCEqu1j0t3: hiApr 17 17:04
qu1j0t3hiApr 17 17:06
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Did I ever talk to you about something interesting at the Canadian War Museum before?Apr 17 17:06
qu1j0t3noApr 17 17:08
XFaCEOkApr 17 17:08
XFaCEAt the Canadian War Museum, in the cold war section, they actually have a display dedicated to showing 80s music video showing the effect that the cold war was having on art at the timeApr 17 17:09
qu1j0t3the only example i can think of is A-Ha 'Take On Me'Apr 17 17:09
*qu1j0t3 gigglesApr 17 17:09
XFaCESo at the Canadian War Museum, there's a section where you can watch the "Land of Confusion" music videoApr 17 17:09
qu1j0t3XFaCE: such as?Apr 17 17:09
qu1j0t3i don't know itApr 17 17:10
XFaCEGenesis Land of Confusion?Apr 17 17:10
XFaCE"This is the world we live in"?Apr 17 17:10
XFaCE!google Genesis land of confusionApr 17 17:10
TechrightsSocial[1] - Genesis Land of Confusion - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DzU9lv_WqK6kApr 17 17:10
TechrightsSocial[2] - Genesis - Land of Confusion - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/embed/9ZtWABLuWHoApr 17 17:10
TechrightsSocial[3] - Land of Confusion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_ConfusionApr 17 17:10
TechrightsSocial[4] - Land Of Confusion Lyrics - Genesis | http://www.lyricsfreak.com/g/genesis/land%2Bof%2Bconfusion_20058814.htmlApr 17 17:10
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Also Bruce Cockburn's "If I had a rocket launcher"Apr 17 17:10
XFaCEAnd "Russians" by StingApr 17 17:10
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Take on Me is actually about the cold war :P?Apr 17 17:11
qu1j0t3dunno!Apr 17 17:11
qu1j0t3maybeApr 17 17:11
XFaCElolApr 17 17:11
qu1j0t3oh, Russians by sting is an obvious one.Apr 17 17:11
qu1j0t3there's also Final Cut - Pink FloydApr 17 17:11
XFaCEDo you remember land of confusion now?Apr 17 17:11
qu1j0t3noApr 17 17:11
qu1j0t3:)Apr 17 17:11
XFaCEeven with those links?Apr 17 17:11
qu1j0t3i'm at work, can't look, but i doubt i was familiarApr 17 17:12
XFaCEGuess you didn't listen to much Genesis :(Apr 17 17:12
XFaCEYou know that band at all?Apr 17 17:13
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUrZc88Ma3g&feature=relatedApr 17 17:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: 25 different voices       - YouTube .::. Size~: 125.89 KBApr 17 17:19
qu1j0t3yes i know of themApr 17 17:21
qu1j0t3but i couldn't hum any of their sonogs :)Apr 17 17:21
XFaCEInvisible Touch perhaps?Apr 17 17:22
XFaCEMisunderstanding?Apr 17 17:22
XFaCEAbacap?Apr 17 17:22
XFaCE*Abacab?Apr 17 17:22
XFaCEbblApr 17 17:22
qu1j0t3noApr 17 17:24
qu1j0t3noneApr 17 17:24
qu1j0t3http://www.thestar.com/business/sciencetech/article/1162950--fracking-for-oil-triggers-manmade-earthquakes-studies-confirm?bn=1Apr 17 19:16
TechrightsSocialTitle: Fracking for oil triggers manmade earthquakes, studies confirm - thestar.com .::. Size~: 101.82 KBApr 17 19:16
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Apr 17 21:40
schestowitz> Apr 17 21:40
schestowitz> Earth day is coming up soon.  There might or might not be some commonApr 17 21:40
schestowitz> themes.Apr 17 21:40
schestowitz> Apr 17 21:40
schestowitz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_dayApr 17 21:40
TechrightsSocialTitle: Earth Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 145.79 KBApr 17 21:40
schestowitzIn 2009 and part of 2012 Techrights covered environmental issues in Daily Links. It would be nice if someone volunteered to keep this up.Apr 17 21:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1527930Apr 17 21:41
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: [Pre-Alpha] Terasology, A Free and Open Source Minecraft Inspired Game Engine  http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/04/pre-alpha-terasology-free-and-open.html #gamesApr 17 21:41
schestowitz"o.O Why not Basic? :D "Apr 17 21:41
TechrightsSocial-> Title: [Pre-Alpha] Terasology, A Free and Open Source Minecraft Inspired Game Engine ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates .::. Size~: 215.95 KBApr 17 21:41
schestowitz"lol"Apr 17 21:42
schestowitzThe trollsApr 17 21:42
schestowitzI got this minutes ago http://identi.ca/notice/92830064Apr 17 23:09
TechrightsSocial@satipera (satipera)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Apr-12 21:46:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Congratulations on your engagement I hope you are both very happy :)Apr 17 23:09
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/ is the main competitor of Twitter and I'm not ranked #2 there for # of posts.Apr 17 23:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Public timeline - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 57.66 KBApr 17 23:09
schestowitzThe inventor of the World Wide Web is there http://identi.ca/timbl I had a few chats with him on there sometimes, which is rewardingApr 17 23:11
TechrightsSocialTitle: Tim Berners-Lee (timbl) - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 53.34 KBApr 17 23:11
schestowitzHow will open source react to Microsoft http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/268642/how-will-open-source-react-microsoft http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/041712-red-hat-microsoft-open-source-258321.htmlApr 17 23:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: How will open source react to Microsoft? | ITworld .::. Size~: 138.7 KBApr 17 23:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Red Hat's reaction to Microsoft's open-source spinoff: Welcome! (mostly) .::. Size~: 119.48 KBApr 17 23:18
schestowitzCanonical is not interested in the Linux kernel http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2168086/canonical-linux-kernel http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Reading-Between-the-Linux-Contributor-Lists-Lines-74879.html #ubuntu #linuxApr 17 23:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Canonical is not interested in the Linux kernel - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 69.61 KBApr 17 23:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Linux News: Community: Reading Between the Linux Contributor List's Lines .::. Size~: 14.33 KBApr 17 23:18
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-LeeApr 17 23:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Tim Berners-Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 205.14 KBApr 17 23:18
schestowitzRed Hat Enterprise Linux celebrates 10 years of Enterprise Linux http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/421682/red_hat_enterprise_linux_celebrates_10_years_enterprise_linux/ #redhatApr 17 23:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: Red Hat Enterprise Linux celebrates 10 years of Enterprise Linux - Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) - Computerworld .::. Size~: 83.03 KBApr 17 23:20
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/92786654 https://identi.ca/notice/92786686Apr 17 23:21
TechrightsSocial@David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Monday, 16-Apr-12 13:14:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @alexandre I was making a subtle point that they talk of both, while Canonical refuses to even speak of either.  But yes, they say GNU/LinuxApr 17 23:21
TechrightsSocial@David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Monday, 16-Apr-12 13:16:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @jacob yes, some of their pages do seem inconsistent, but intent seems at least correct.Apr 17 23:21
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/92830929Apr 17 23:23
TechrightsSocial@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Apr-12 22:21:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @satipera Thanks, I told her too ;-)Apr 17 23:23
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zjh4bxFpE0&feature=digest_monApr 17 23:45
TechrightsSocialTitle: Smart VS. Republican       - YouTube .::. Size~: 143.25 KBApr 17 23:45

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