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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1529886 | Apr 18 10:47 |
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| TechrightsSocial | Not a Diaspora post? | Apr 18 10:47 |
| schestowitz | "Gouge out my eyeballs someone... please. " | Apr 18 10:47 |
| MinceR | http://narf-archive.com/pix/1dd1e63a7d0a33cff4514bf4889767b6f6780b8c.png | Apr 18 14:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Apr 18 14:50 |
| schestowitz | My employer wants to me spend a couple of days in London next week (just got another reminder)... I might use this opportunity to look around the place and see what I think of the neighborhoods. I'll have my phones with me, I'll need to talk to OA a lot. | Apr 18 15:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1531124 | Apr 18 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Say goodbye to Ubuntu Linux 10.10 'Maverick Meerkat' http://www.itworld.com/software/267000/say-goodbye-ubuntu-linux-1010-maverick-meerkat #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Apr 18 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Say goodbye to Ubuntu Linux 10.10 'Maverick Meerkat' | ITworld .::. Size~: 143.73 KB | Apr 18 15:50 |
| schestowitz | "Ah the "L" word again ;) " | Apr 18 15:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1531070 | Apr 18 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 12.04 Still Trying For 64-bit By Default http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4ODU #ubuntu | Apr 18 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: [Phoronix] Ubuntu 12.04 Still Trying For 64-bit By Default .::. Size~: 18.8 KB | Apr 18 15:50 |
| schestowitz | "64 bit in 12.04 is fast and solid. " | Apr 18 15:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | well um it should be. | Apr 18 15:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not like it's anything new | Apr 18 15:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | the first linux 64 bit port was nearly 20 years ago | Apr 18 15:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | and even x86_64 is old hat now | Apr 18 15:57 |
| schestowitz | what's better? | Apr 18 15:57 |
| schestowitz | higher throughput processors are rare | Apr 18 15:58 |
| schestowitz | not standardised apps for them | Apr 18 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'better'? | Apr 18 15:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | depends for what. | Apr 18 15:59 |
| schestowitz | how expressive do you need instructions to be? | Apr 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | and why not use many cores? | Apr 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | or like in mainframes, maybe half a million cores | Apr 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | who uses more? | Apr 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | !gooogle 128 bit processor | Apr 18 17:41 |
| schestowitz | !google 128 bit processor | Apr 18 17:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - 128-bit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/128-bit | Apr 18 17:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - AMD's next-gen Bulldozer is a 128-bit crunching monster - Bright ... | http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/4/15/amds-next-gen-bulldozer-is-a-128-bit-crunching-monster.aspx | Apr 18 17:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Microsoft Developing a 128-bit Windows - Linux Today Blog | http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/2009/10/microsoft-is-fi.html | Apr 18 17:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - 64 bit - When are we going 128-bit? How it will be? What gets better ... | http://superuser.com/questions/49549/when-are-we-going-128-bit-how-it-will-be-what-gets-better | Apr 18 17:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: what does this have to do with x86_64? | Apr 18 17:42 |
| schestowitz | [3] is vapourware | Apr 18 17:42 |
| schestowitz | MS has been saying it for a couple of years to hype up Vista9 | Apr 18 17:42 |
| schestowitz | if it will ever exist at all | Apr 18 17:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | multicore has taken over from moore's law, that's not microsoft's doing. | Apr 18 17:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | we're probably talking about a doubling of core count every 18 months these days :) | Apr 18 17:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | even my graphics card has > 100 processing units... | Apr 18 17:43 |
| schestowitz | 3-d silicon printing might help further expand it | Apr 18 17:45 |
| schestowitz | just until the semi-conductors can't work | Apr 18 17:46 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/carlopiana/statuses/192525167241596928 | Apr 18 17:48 |
| TechrightsSocial | @carlopiana: OIN, Innovator’s Patent Agreement are good moves in a short term tactic. Long term requires #swpats abolition. | Apr 18 17:48 |
| MinceR | next: m$ developing 1024576-bit winblows! | Apr 18 17:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: Preordering... | Apr 18 17:56 |
| MinceR | note that there's no hardware for it to run on, though | Apr 18 17:56 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: So what's Prime Minister Fucker been up to today? | Apr 18 20:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | Fucking Everyfucking Fing | Apr 18 20:48 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Any lowlights? | Apr 18 20:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | not yet | Apr 18 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Modest proposal to Canonical: #Ubuntu could legally fork linux and just remove some branding, then call it the "Ubunu kernel". PR problem solved. ;-) | Apr 18 20:59 |
| MinceR | but then they'd have to maintain it themselves | Apr 18 20:59 |
| MinceR | that would be real work | Apr 18 20:59 |
| MinceR | they can't be expected to do that! | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | One of the criticisms is "it goes against the free software model" as the repository has non-free applications and you have the option to install non-free drivers. And as Brandon said, "better yet: How about Canonical stops advertising non-free software like Skype and Adobe Flash during the install and in their Ubuntu Software Center program?" | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | But isn't the ability to choose non-free software part of the idea behind "freedom"? | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Let's face it, if we want people to use Linux, we need to make it suitable for use in THE REAL WORLD. We don't all live in Stallman's self righteous ideological bubble. Some of us actually need to get things done. | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | @ruskie: Yes you are correct. They have no intent to solve a problem that's already been solved. Kernel (and toolchain stuff) isn't going to take free software to everyone in the world. I don't consider that bashing. It's more a statement of fact. | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | In terms of use cases for Ubuntu, yours may not match the design intent, but that doesn't mean that "Ubuntu is not fit for purpose". Instead it means that "Ubuntu is not fit for ruskie's purpose." | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no need to maintain | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | just fork it off any new release | Apr 18 21:00 |
| schestowitz | sed the branding away | Apr 18 21:00 |
| MinceR | that wouldn't differ from what they're doing now, would it? | Apr 18 21:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 18 21:01 |
| schestowitz | One of the criticisms is "it goes against the free software model" as the repository has non-free applications and you have the option to install non-free drivers. And as Brandon said, "better yet: How about Canonical stops advertising non-free software like Skype and Adobe Flash during the install and in their Ubuntu Software Center program?" | Apr 18 21:01 |
| schestowitz | But isn't the ability to choose non-free software part of the idea behind "freedom"? | Apr 18 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Let's face it, if we want people to use Linux, we need to make it suitable for use in THE REAL WORLD. We don't all live in Stallman's self righteous ideological bubble. Some of us actually need to get things done. | Apr 18 21:01 |
| schestowitz | crap | Apr 18 21:01 |
| schestowitz | "^^^ Which is why we have so many distros," | Apr 18 21:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1529932 | Apr 18 21:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical is not interested in the Linux kernel http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2168086/canonical-linux-kernel http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Reading-Between-the-Linux-Contributor-Lists-Lines-74879.html #ubuntu #linux | Apr 18 21:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Canonical is not interested in the Linux kernel - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 72.15 KB | Apr 18 21:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Linux News: Community: Reading Between the Linux Contributor List's Lines .::. Size~: 14.33 KB | Apr 18 21:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | "We don't all live in Stallman's self righteous │ | Apr 18 21:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | ideological bubble. Some of us actually need to get things done." | Apr 18 21:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | wow. somebody needs to stop using gcc | Apr 18 21:03 |
| qu1j0t3 | disgusting | Apr 18 21:04 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 21:05 |
| MinceR | i'm aware of an RMS-bashing BSD fanboy who uses Emacs :) | Apr 18 21:05 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: haters gonna hate | Apr 18 21:08 |
| schestowitz | oh, cool... half of the items in the fedora subreddit re submissions from me | Apr 18 21:09 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: VIM FOREVER... | Apr 18 21:09 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 21:09 |
| XFaCE | (J/k) | Apr 18 21:09 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: qu1j0t3: who said that? | Apr 18 21:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1533020 | Apr 18 21:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Modest proposal to Canonical: #Ubuntu could legally fork linux and just remove some branding, then call it the "Ubunu kernel". PR problem solved. ;-) | Apr 18 21:11 |
| schestowitz | "That would also chase away all the Ubuntu users who care about Linux ;) " | Apr 18 21:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | a few ppl seem to have too much time on their hands | Apr 18 21:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | maybe they should be submitting moar patches and fewer flame | Apr 18 21:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | s | Apr 18 21:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Or Ubuntu could switch to BSD | Apr 18 21:13 |
| XFaCE | give something else for DaemonFC to laugh at | Apr 18 21:13 |
| MinceR | he's not the only one who'd be laughing at that | Apr 18 21:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | honestly what did these guys do before the internet | Apr 18 21:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | sit around sports bars discussing soccer, probably | Apr 18 21:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | equally valuable activity | Apr 18 21:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1531261 | Apr 18 21:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Raspberry Pi review http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/pcs/2012/04/16/raspberry-pi-review/1 #linux | Apr 18 21:35 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Raspberry Pi review | bit-tech.net .::. Size~: 36.75 KB | Apr 18 21:35 |
| schestowitz | "I nearly ordered one this lunchtime - but decided I don't actually have a use for one (yet) - and, besides, I already have two 2nd-hand Linux netbooks to play with. These can already do more than a bare RasP, as they have screen, keyboard, storage & wifi built-in.... " | Apr 18 21:35 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Buy a bunch, and create a secret network | Apr 18 21:39 |
| XFaCE | you know, disguise them as anonymous boxes on the wall | Apr 18 21:40 |
| XFaCE | :D | Apr 18 21:40 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/jmechner/Prince-of-Persia-Apple-II | Apr 18 21:40 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: jmechner/Prince-of-Persia-Apple-II · GitHub .::. Size~: 37.24 KB | Apr 18 21:40 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: naaa | Apr 18 21:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I wasn't really serious | Apr 18 21:41 |
| XFaCE | Still, they are small enough | Apr 18 21:41 |
| XFaCE | Attach them to ceilings, etc | Apr 18 21:41 |
| schestowitz | huh : http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/04/sail-free-how-to-escape-androids-pirate-trap/ | Apr 18 22:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Sail Free: How To Escape Android's Pirate Trap .::. Size~: 61.51 KB | Apr 18 22:08 |
| *schestowitz hates the sparingly-used term, "piracy" | Apr 18 22:09 | |
| MinceR | yeah, it should be less sparingly used. yarr! ;) | Apr 18 22:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: man, your [sic] doin it wrong !! | Apr 18 22:21 |
| XFaCE | what does "sic" mean? | Apr 18 22:41 |
| schestowitz | look it up, mate | Apr 18 23:35 |
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