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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92934107 http://identi.ca/notice/92934129Apr 21 13:35
TechrightsSocial@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Saturday, 21-Apr-12 06:39:14 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ #FSF and #GNU father @rms would be quite deserving of a Millennium Technology Prize and put the award $$ to good use. ~30 yrs of freedom.Apr 21 13:35
TechrightsSocial@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Saturday, 21-Apr-12 06:40:22 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz yet another reason why GNU+Linux naming matters: to avoid the injustice of praising the wrong person for the misnamed systemApr 21 13:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1539359#Apr 21 15:13
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schestowitz"Apr 21 15:13
schestowitzNearly every case of oppression has been brought on by a similar scenario .. business is oil ..... this leads to greater greed .... this then leads to people being killed in countries that have said business ...... search on the words proves the word is correct ...... Monsanato is another business that caused the suicides of many farmers ..... whether business or not .... oppression is caused by bad leaders taking money from Apr 21 15:13
schestowitzsaid business ...... then they oppress their own people to keep the business going ......Apr 21 15:13
schestowitzI also add the words of the countries .... and good things .... to see what the search brings up ....Apr 21 15:13
schestowitzhttps://www.google.com/search?q=Business+oil+Lybia+Iraq+Uganda+good+things&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=NeSRT-iIPMbZ8AOP5vXNDA&biw=1159&bih=506&sei=OOSRT6XENZSn8QPE5pnODAApr 21 15:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: Business oil Lybia Iraq Uganda good things - Google Search .::. Size~: 456.66 KBApr 21 15:13
schestowitz"Apr 21 15:13
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schestowitz"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8pMJ8TeGUo http://thistleweb.co.uk/blog/20/04/2012/copyright-infringement-not-content-theftApr 21 15:44
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TechrightsSocialTitle: Copyright Infringement Is Not Content Theft | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 22.73 KBApr 21 15:44
schestowitzyutub does not count views that are in <embed>Apr 21 15:44
schestowitzwhich is sillyApr 21 15:44
schestowitzqu1j0t3: turf wars http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/category/ridiculously-obvious-scamsApr 21 16:01
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schestowitzhttp://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/04/sequoia-fund-manager-campaigns-against-goldman-board-member-former-fannie-ceo-jim-johnson.htmlApr 21 16:01
TechrightsSocialTitle: Sequoia Fund Manager Campaigns Against Goldman Board Member, Former Fannie CEO Jim Johnson  «  naked capitalism .::. Size~: 151.21 KBApr 21 16:01
schestowitz"Microsoft-sponsored SUSE is trying to recruit "boosters" to help market Microsoft-taxed 'Linux' (Ballnux) http://news.opensuse.org/2012/04/20/hiring/ #opensuse #suse #traitor"Apr 21 16:22
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schestowitzewww http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhSbTsleGUM&feature=digest_monApr 21 17:31
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92944262Apr 21 17:32
TechrightsSocial@  (stefon)'s status on Saturday, 21-Apr-12 16:12:20 UTC - Identi.ca: If you dont like this, you have to change our whole economic system, which i would recommend anywayApr 21 17:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1541851Apr 21 17:49
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schestowitz" and compartmentalized to not know enough to compete, which tends to incompetence. Paranoia about trade secrets and "intellectual property" have made things even worse. See http://wrttn.in/04af1a  "Apr 21 17:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1541886Apr 21 17:49
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schestowitz"It would be a tragedy if this honour was not shared with Richard Stallman. If only because he'd never shut up about it :-) "Apr 21 17:49
schestowitz"Founder of the Open Source Linux Kernel !" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1541894Apr 21 17:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1541778Apr 21 17:50
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schestowitz"Release names give better version recognition. I don't think it should be abandonded. It can be changed to something more appriopiate I think."Apr 21 17:50
schestowitz"No but maybe it should go back to animals I've heard of?"Apr 21 17:51
schestowitz"Must have been a slow news day ;)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1541794Apr 21 18:47
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schestowitz> [quote]Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Cross examination of Dr. Mark Reinhold, by Google Attorney DanielApr 21 18:58
schestowitz> PurcellApr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> ...Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Q. Without APIs, could Java do I/O? Would it be of much use?Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> A. No.Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Q. Some of the Java APIs were done outside of Sun, correct? And SunApr 21 18:58
schestowitz>    doesn't claim copyright on those.Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> A. Correct.Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Q. Some of the copyrighted APIs (e.g., java.nio) were also done inApr 21 18:58
schestowitz>    collaboration with groups outside Sun/Oracle, correct?Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> A. Yes, sometimes there are expert working groups.Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Q. Of the 37 APIs, some were done in collaboration with the JavaApr 21 18:58
schestowitz>    Community Process (JCP), correct?Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> A. Yes.Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Q. Has Google collaborated on some Sun APIs?Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> A. Yes.Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> ...Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:58
schestowitz> [Google had been pursuing a line of questioning saying that they'd doneApr 21 18:58
schestowitz> 20% of the work on some APIs; Oracle expresses concern that Google isApr 21 18:59
schestowitz> going to contest API ownership, and wants Alsup to instruct the juryApr 21 18:59
schestowitz> that Google cannot contest ownership of the APIs. Google objects, andApr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Alsup sides with Google (doesn't mean he agrees, just that he won'tApr 21 18:59
schestowitz> instruct the jury at this time).]Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> ...Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Q. Was "Write Once, Run Anywhere" important to Sun with respect to Java?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> A. Yes, it was a major motivation.Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Q. There are 4 classes of Java platforms, correct? Java SE, Java EE,Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz>    Java ME, and Java Card. Do these use different versions of the JavaApr 21 18:59
schestowitz>    programming language, and different APIs?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> A. Yes.Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Q. A developer needs to know what flavor they're writing a program for,Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz>    correct? A program written for one may not work for another?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> A. Yes.Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Q. JavaME also has different configurations, such as CLBC, correct? AndApr 21 18:59
schestowitz>    some configurations also have a range of profiles? So an applicationApr 21 18:59
schestowitz>    written for one profile might not run on another profile?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> A. It might, or it might not.Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Q. How can this be "Write Once, Run Anywhere"?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> A. If you have written for a specific platform, then the program shouldApr 21 18:59
schestowitz>    run on any vendor's version of that platform.Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Q. Did Sun have a "OneJava" initiative that was supposed to unify SE andApr 21 18:59
schestowitz>    the higher levels of ME?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> A. Yes?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Q. And Oracle pulled the plug on OneJava, correct?Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> A. Yes.Apr 21 18:59
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schestowitz> [/quote]Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> Apr 21 18:59
schestowitz> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120419221941261Apr 21 18:59
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