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| qu1-dot-com | XFaCE: These fraudulent election activities are a harsh reminder that as Canadians we cannot take the integrity of our democracy for granted. Neither our individual democratic rights nor our collective responsibility to defend them ended on Election Day May 2, 2011. True democracy is a 24-7 pursuit. | Mar 30 01:00 |
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| qu1-dot-com | Today, I am proud to announce the Council of Canadians has launched the Democracy 24-7 Legal Fund to raise the funds necessary to pursue justice for all voters who were affected. Court challenges can be long and costly, and we need to raise $240,000 now. | Mar 30 01:00 |
| qu1-dot-com | http://council-of-canadians.c.topica.com/maapEqhab8pUia0XotzeaeQy7T/ XFaCE | Mar 30 01:00 |
| XFaCE | Fuck yeah | Mar 30 01:00 |
| XFaCE | qu1-dot-com: you did this? | Mar 30 01:01 |
| qu1-dot-com | no. | Mar 30 01:02 |
| qu1-dot-com | pasted from email | Mar 30 01:02 |
| *qu1-dot-com is now known as qu1j0t3 | Mar 30 01:02 | |
| XFaCE | unforunately, my area wasn't affected | Mar 30 01:03 |
| XFaCE | It's already a robot Conservative machine. They would win, even if the candidate was dead | Mar 30 01:04 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Let's hope the outcome of all this a positive one | Mar 30 01:04 |
| XFaCE | And that Rush write a song about Harper's downfall :D | Mar 30 01:04 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest_and | Mar 30 01:08 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and Most Expansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah .::. Size~: 91.82 KB | Mar 30 01:08 |
| XFaCE | And so I died a little more on the inside | Mar 30 01:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | odd that this would be in WIRED, who are compromised | Mar 30 01:10 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: explain that pls | Mar 30 01:12 |
| XFaCE | compromised by who/whom? | Mar 30 01:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | sigh | Mar 30 02:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | heard of Bradley Manning? | Mar 30 02:09 |
| qu1j0t3 | FBI owns Adrian Lamo, who's the best buddy of Kevin Poulsen, WIRED editor | Mar 30 02:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | both of them are engaged in a conspiracy to hide the facts of Manning's entrapment/arrest | Mar 30 02:10 |
| qu1j0t3 | so you have to regard WIRED as a compromised source | Mar 30 02:10 |
| XFaCE | understood | Mar 30 03:13 |
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| schestowitz | money-obsessed idiocy http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2012/03/29/red-hat-nears-revenue-milestone-world-yawns/ | Mar 30 08:49 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: some people claim that Obama serves the queen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfmmqm1c4Mc&feature=digest_mon | Mar 30 09:18 |
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| schestowitz | I call "bullshit:" | Mar 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/rjlp6/munich_breaks_even_by_migrating_to_gnulinux/ | Mar 30 09:25 |
| schestowitz | "How is saving 4 million Euros "breaking even"?" | Mar 30 09:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/03/29/1630200/european-parliament-takes-step-toward-burying-acta | Mar 30 09:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: European Parliament Takes Step Toward Burying ACTA - Slashdot .::. Size~: 133.93 KB | Mar 30 09:36 |
| schestowitz | ike SOPA | Mar 30 09:36 |
| MinceR | why only steps? the whole deal stunk from the beginning | Mar 30 09:37 |
| MinceR | they should have thrown it in the usians' face right then | Mar 30 09:37 |
| MinceR | laws are not to be discussed in secret from the citizens and legislators should protect the citizens' interests, not that of foreign powers | Mar 30 09:38 |
| MinceR | they keep paying lip service to democracy and they still took this deal seriously | Mar 30 09:38 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1471814 | Mar 30 10:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mele A1000 is a $70 hackable, Linux-friendly ARM-based PC http://liliputing.com/2012/03/mele-a1000-is-a-70-hackable-linux-friendly-arm-based-pc.html #gnu #linux | Mar 30 10:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Mele A1000 is a $70 hackable, Linux-friendly ARM-based PC - Liliputing .::. Size~: 41.35 KB | Mar 30 10:02 |
| schestowitz | "Well, this will be probably delivered before my RasPi" | Mar 30 10:02 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: ACTA will be re-attempted | Mar 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1458966 | Mar 30 10:03 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet Vivaldi: It’s Got A Real “Spark” For Open-Source! http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/03/meet-vivaldi-its-got-a-real-spark-for-open-source/ #kde | Mar 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | "@ruskie: where can I get info on the blobs replacement work being done? " | Mar 30 10:03 |
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| schestowitz | "@Leo Rockway This is where I read that so maybe you can try from there on http://opentablets.org/topic/8-state-of-hardware-drivers-that-power-the-vivaldi/ " | Mar 30 10:03 |
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| MinceR | http://narf-archive.com/pix/dbb4034e0a1f38065437d26c0249d94889b31a9c.png | Mar 30 14:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Mar 30 14:36 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402354,00.asp | Mar 30 14:59 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Foxconn Probe Uncovers Excessive Overtime, Unsafe Conditions | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 141.51 KB | Mar 30 14:59 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, it figures | Mar 30 15:00 |
| schestowitz | last night my mom told me she wanted an hypePad like my brother in law | Mar 30 15:00 |
| schestowitz | I told her, get something better | Mar 30 15:00 |
| schestowitz | hypePad is good for cooking | Mar 30 15:00 |
| schestowitz | and bl;ending maybe | Mar 30 15:00 |
| MinceR | i'd recommend a stove instead | Mar 30 15:01 |
| MinceR | much more reliable | Mar 30 15:01 |
| MinceR | and more adjustable | Mar 30 15:01 |
| MinceR | and not so overpriced | Mar 30 15:01 |
| schestowitz | and charges up to 10-% | Mar 30 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Apple: our products (integration of other people's products) are defective by design http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/apple-says-100-ipad-recharge-problem-is-by-design/72585 | Mar 30 15:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Apple says 100% iPad recharge "problem" is by design | ZDNet .::. Size~: 254.91 KB | Mar 30 15:02 |
| MinceR | also, with a stove the controls won't be heated significantly | Mar 30 15:05 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Mar 30 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | [04:18:08] schestowitz | qu1j0t3: some people claim that Obama serves the queen // LOL!!!!! | Mar 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | apple=too hot | Mar 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I saw this youtube channel repeating this claim | Mar 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | that the british crown still controls the world | Mar 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | and wars and stuff | Mar 30 15:15 |
| MinceR | which usian megacorporation is owned by a queen? | Mar 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | And ender claims the same | Mar 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: right, exactly | Mar 30 15:15 |
| schestowitz | it's all very dubious when people place all blame on our shamed monarchy that is not at risk of being shitcanned | Mar 30 15:16 |
| schestowitz | like, when prince william thought of going out with britnet speaks | Mar 30 15:16 |
| schestowitz | and risk being ostracised for it | Mar 30 15:16 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: talk about missing the point | Mar 30 15:22 |
| *qu1j0t3 sighs | Mar 30 15:22 | |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: check my latest tweet. that's a real concern. but i don't know why WIRED is covering it. | Mar 30 15:23 |
| MinceR | qu1j0t3: url? | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2012/jan/12/microsoft-confirms-UEFI-fears-locks-down-ARM/ | Mar 30 15:25 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Microsoft confirms UEFI fears, locks down ARM devices - SFLC Blog - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 9.19 KB | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | >> | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | >> Microsoft confirms UEFI fears, locks down ARM devices | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > They have to actually sell those ARM devices first, though, which is not | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > very likely given the lacklustre (indeed hostile) response to Tiles thus | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > far. | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > In a market where the entire sales channel is locked into a racket, like | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > the "desktop", this would be a serious problem, but ARM lies outside the | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > grasp of that racket, and provides too much competition for Microsoft to | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > pull the same stunt it did with "desktops". | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > So the 1.9% stupid enough to buy Tiles® tablets will be lumbered with an | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | > expensive paperweight, and the rest of us will be blissfully unaffected. | Mar 30 15:25 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: what about? | Mar 30 15:25 |
| qu1j0t3 | check it | Mar 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | That youtube channel I recently sub'd to because of one of their video | Mar 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | but their new videos are too nutty | Mar 30 15:26 |
| MinceR | i don't know qu1j0t3's twitter account name | Mar 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | with bizarre claims | Mar 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | That latest one seems like GOP propaganda | Mar 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | painting Obama as a slave of the British | Mar 30 15:26 |
| schestowitz | that Muslin undercover Kenyan agent for the British Crown :-) | Mar 30 15:27 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 15:27 |
| MinceR | muslin | Mar 30 15:27 |
| schestowitz | it's a version of Ubuntu | Mar 30 15:27 |
| schestowitz | with the quran on the desktop | Mar 30 15:27 |
| schestowitz | Mus2Linux | Mar 30 15:27 |
| schestowitz | Lin4Mus | Mar 30 15:27 |
| MinceR | how to install GNU/Linux on mice (the animals) | Mar 30 15:28 |
| schestowitz | twitter.com/qu1j0t3 | Mar 30 15:28 |
| schestowitz | oops, wrong browser | Mar 30 15:28 |
| schestowitz | twitter ia a broken design, I forgot | Mar 30 15:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: wow, it would be great to track where that BS originated. clear misdirection. definitely fits into GOP/Fox strategy. | Mar 30 15:28 |
| MinceR | oh, didn't expect it to be so obvious :) | Mar 30 15:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/#!/qu1j0t3/status/185579646945996801 | Mar 30 15:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @qu1j0t3: Where there's smoke there's fire: Despite the best propaganda campaign money can buy, #Foxconn bad news leaking out http://t.co/9FTmXUSn | Mar 30 15:29 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: just this? | Mar 30 15:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Independent Audit Finds Foxconn Violates Chinese Work Rules - Slashdot .::. Size~: 269.73 KB | Mar 30 15:29 |
| MinceR | as for browser issues, i just type m.twitter.com (and remove the #! if needed) | Mar 30 15:29 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: the other day I wrote my opinion on Alex Jones | Mar 30 15:30 |
| schestowitz | and opinions I heard about | Mar 30 15:30 |
| schestowitz | that he's partly controlled | Mar 30 15:30 |
| schestowitz | he helps some rich people | Mar 30 15:30 |
| schestowitz | by discrediting opposition to legit issues | Mar 30 15:30 |
| schestowitz | But I don't think he's controlled opp. | Mar 30 15:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no, the one about NSA | Mar 30 15:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: who is alex jones? | Mar 30 15:31 |
| schestowitz | He's just giving away too much ammo for his better-funded opponents | Mar 30 15:31 |
| schestowitz | he has temper issues | Mar 30 15:31 |
| schestowitz | alex jones- infowar, prisonplanet etc. | Mar 30 15:31 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: UI dented about it a week ago | Mar 30 15:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest_and#.T3WwnlwNQdY.twitter | Mar 30 15:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and Most Expansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah .::. Size~: 91.7 KB | Mar 30 15:32 |
| schestowitz | Wired covered it | Mar 30 15:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 30 15:32 |
| schestowitz | at the time, I think it was the seminal article | Mar 30 15:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | but why WIRED | Mar 30 15:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | seminal??? | Mar 30 15:32 |
| schestowitz | no idea, wondered the same thing | Mar 30 15:32 |
| schestowitz | I don't like wired anymore | Mar 30 15:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, this issue is like 3+ years old. google 'drake bsa' | Mar 30 15:32 |
| schestowitz | !google wired open source gates | Mar 30 15:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Meet Bill Gates, the Man Who Changed Open Source Software - Wired | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/01/meet-bill-gates/all/1 | Mar 30 15:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - linux | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/tag/linux/ | Mar 30 15:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - open source | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/tag/open-source/ | Mar 30 15:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Wired logic connection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_logic_connection | Mar 30 15:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | nsa* | Mar 30 15:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you 'don't like WIRED'? | Mar 30 15:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: why? | Mar 30 15:33 |
| schestowitz | some ofn their recent work | Mar 30 15:33 |
| schestowitz | and writers | Mar 30 15:33 |
| schestowitz | they did god things too | Mar 30 15:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there's a much better reason to mistrust WIRED | Mar 30 15:33 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft google wired | Mar 30 15:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Exclusive: Google, Amazon, and Microsoft Swarm China for ... - Wired | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/03/google-microsoft-network-gear/ | Mar 30 15:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Berkeley Explains Why Google Trumps Microsoft | Wired Enterprise ... | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/12/berkeley-google-docs-microsoft/ | Mar 30 15:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Microsoft Says Decaffeinated Bing Tastes as Good as Google - Wired | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/03/microsoft-bing-v-google/all/1 | Mar 30 15:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Google Teams With Facebook and Microsoft to Phight ... - Wired | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/01/google-phight-phishing/ | Mar 30 15:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: come on, tell me the #1 reason why WIRED isn't credible on government issues | Mar 30 15:34 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft google wired plot to kill | Mar 30 15:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - The Plot to Kill Google - Wired | http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-02/ff_killgoogle%3FcurrentPage%3Dall | Mar 30 15:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Techmeme: The Plot to Kill Google (Wired News) | http://www.techmeme.com/090120/p7 | Mar 30 15:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Wired: Monopoly, Microsoft And The Anti-Google 'Conspiracy' | http://searchengineland.com/wired-monopoly-microsoft-and-the-anti-google-conspiracy-16229 | Mar 30 15:34 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Google Watch - Google vs. Microsoft - Plot to Kill Google Paints ... | http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/google_vs_microsoft/plot_to_kill_google_paints_company_as_victim_of_success_first_monopolist_second.html | Mar 30 15:34 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: they have one section I know of that does political issue | Mar 30 15:34 |
| schestowitz | "Alert" something | Mar 30 15:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you really don't know? | Mar 30 15:34 |
| schestowitz | where they cover some rights and security issue | Mar 30 15:34 |
| schestowitz | I don't know | Mar 30 15:34 |
| schestowitz | Is there an acroinym? | Mar 30 15:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they're equivalent to the NYT | Mar 30 15:35 |
| schestowitz | is its board controlled? | Mar 30 15:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i explained it to XFaCE earlier. | Mar 30 15:35 |
| schestowitz | Wired: tech for the masses | Mar 30 15:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Kevin Poulsen is connected (closely) to Adrian Lamo | Mar 30 15:35 |
| schestowitz | trne-setting | Mar 30 15:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and you know who controls Adrian Lamo... | Mar 30 15:35 |
| schestowitz | oh | Mar 30 15:35 |
| schestowitz | ha | Mar 30 15:35 |
| schestowitz | i forgot | Mar 30 15:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and you know what Lamo and Poulsen did/are doing together? | Mar 30 15:35 |
| schestowitz | no | Mar 30 15:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: heard of Bradley Manning | Mar 30 15:36 |
| schestowitz | i saw a docu about it | Mar 30 15:36 |
| schestowitz | the one with mitnick in it | Mar 30 15:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: heard of Bradley Manning? | Mar 30 15:36 |
| schestowitz | they interbview the Wired guy | Mar 30 15:36 |
| schestowitz | all the things point to wired to make manning appear guilty | Mar 30 15:36 |
| schestowitz | but I reckon he did leak the stuff | Mar 30 15:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Lamo got Manning arrested, then he and Poulsen lied about it and refuse to come clean about what happened | Mar 30 15:36 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they're in a conspiracy, basically. against the public. | Mar 30 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and the FBI is in on it. | Mar 30 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: we can assume the FBI controls Poulsen | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | the fbi spoke to them | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | or him | Mar 30 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: so why is WIRED writing about the NSA? | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | I saw something about it | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | I think Lamo | Mar 30 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: it's like the NYT writing about Goldman Sachs | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | Lamer | Mar 30 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: there's a 2ndary story here | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | hehe, NYT on Goldman | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | or bloomberg | Mar 30 15:37 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: neither WIRED nor the NYT publiish anything without a reason | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | although he's their competitor AFAIK | Mar 30 15:37 |
| schestowitz | or boomberg speaking about Occupied | Mar 30 15:38 |
| schestowitz | bloomberg | Mar 30 15:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: so is the FBI taking a position against NSA's total information awareness? | Mar 30 15:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: is it a turf war played out in media, like sachs/NYT? | Mar 30 15:38 |
| schestowitz | i bet in NY they don't need much propaganda to put a nillioaire in power as NYC ,mayor | Mar 30 15:38 |
| schestowitz | "what's good for the rich is good for NYC" | Mar 30 15:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Bloomberg is royalty | Mar 30 15:38 |
| schestowitz | maybe it's true though | Mar 30 15:38 |
| schestowitz | relative to the rest of the US | Mar 30 15:38 |
| schestowitz | NY is much far ahead of the rest of the US | Mar 30 15:39 |
| schestowitz | NY is much far ahead of the rest of the US[15:38] <qu1j0t3> schestowitz: is it a turf war played out in media, like sachs/NYT? | Mar 30 15:39 |
| schestowitz | does NYT always whitewash GS? | Mar 30 15:39 |
| schestowitz | I think not | Mar 30 15:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: of course not! | Mar 30 15:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's the POINT | Mar 30 15:39 |
| schestowitz | they do cover both sides in a way, WahPo too | Mar 30 15:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | you're thinking of Krugman | Mar 30 15:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's a strategy, schestowitz | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | monopolising the debate? | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | we've discussed it before | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | I don't buy it, others cover it too | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | what? | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | are you being naive again? | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | Remember the recent quitting from GS, I think the NYT covered it ffirst | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | you have these moments... | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | YES. | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | in fact, he used the NYT as his platform | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's what i am referring to! | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | we discussed it! | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | something about bad culutre in GS, and all that matters iw money | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | *is | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | the NYT covered GS for a REASON | Mar 30 15:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | in a bad light | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | why? | Mar 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | credibility? | Mar 30 15:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | no | Mar 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | controlled opp/ | Mar 30 15:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | my suspicion is it 's a factional war inside GS | Mar 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | maybe | Mar 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | but how is that relevant to us from the outside? | Mar 30 15:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | NYT's GS people happen to benefit from the bad publicity | Mar 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | There are turf wars in each company | Mar 30 15:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: its not! none of what they print is relevant to us! | Mar 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | also my best mate's company | Mar 30 15:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you don't get it | Mar 30 15:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you're having a naive moment | Mar 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | clannish/tribalism nature | Mar 30 15:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the game isn't played for US.... | Mar 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see | Mar 30 15:42 |
| schestowitz | but who would these people be? | Mar 30 15:42 |
| schestowitz | And who beneifts? | Mar 30 15:42 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the NYT has people from GS' rivals | Mar 30 15:42 |
| schestowitz | not necessarily a factions game | Mar 30 15:42 |
| schestowitz | the rich have a league with other rich peple, nothing new about it | Mar 30 15:43 |
| schestowitz | and many are based in NY, CT< Jersey.. | Mar 30 15:43 |
| schestowitz | either way, how well can one generalise based on one writer in Wired? | Mar 30 15:43 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, Fogel did some major expose of MS keeping dossiers on jouirnalists | Mar 30 15:44 |
| schestowitz | Wired is not all bad, it has its ups and downs | Mar 30 15:44 |
| schestowitz | the NYT is all debt-saddled and now with the paywalls they also can better control who accesses the message | Mar 30 15:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Poulsen isn't a _WRITER_ for WIRED..... | Mar 30 15:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you don't seem to realise how serious this is | Mar 30 15:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you might as well say WIRED is fighting Wikileaks head on | Mar 30 15:47 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: and the principle of wikileaks | Mar 30 15:47 |
| schestowitz | the publisher might | Mar 30 15:48 |
| schestowitz | or editors | Mar 30 15:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes! we have substantial evidence of this | Mar 30 15:48 |
| schestowitz | but how did Lamo come to WIred, or was it vice versa? | Mar 30 15:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they have long been connected | Mar 30 15:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you don't get it | Mar 30 15:48 |
| MinceR | Lamo/Lmao ;) | Mar 30 15:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | you're having a naive moment | Mar 30 15:48 |
| schestowitz | That's the story they don't seem to tell, but I guess Lamo already know Poulson or whatever | Mar 30 15:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | anyway, be as suspicious of WIRED as you would, the NYT. | Mar 30 15:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no shit????? | Mar 30 15:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: that's the point! | Mar 30 15:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: they're not INDEPENDENT in any sense. | Mar 30 15:49 |
| schestowitz | not naive | Mar 30 15:49 |
| schestowitz | I don't have the same info you have | Mar 30 15:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: also, you don't seem to understand the FBI controls Lamo, and, logically inferred, Poulsen. | Mar 30 15:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes you do | Mar 30 15:49 |
| schestowitz | [15:48] <qu1j0t3> anyway, be as suspicious of WIRED as you would, the NYT. | Mar 30 15:49 |
| schestowitz | NYT is political | Mar 30 15:49 |
| schestowitz | affects banks too | Mar 30 15:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | so is WIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Mar 30 15:49 |
| schestowitz | less directly | Mar 30 15:49 |
| schestowitz | secueity and tech | Mar 30 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | WIRED is involved in concealing the facts of Manning's entrapment and arrest!!!! | Mar 30 15:50 |
| schestowitz | and commerce affected more | Mar 30 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | it doesn't get more political than that! | Mar 30 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Wired is about more than just this article | Mar 30 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | Manning/Assange/Wikileaks is the #1 political item of our time | Mar 30 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: NO! | Mar 30 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: incorrect | Mar 30 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: we have to assume everything they write is tainteed | Mar 30 15:50 |
| schestowitz | was | Mar 30 15:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: same as NYT | Mar 30 15:50 |
| schestowitz | they put Assange under house arrest | Mar 30 15:50 |
| schestowitz | !google uk media warned war logs wikileaks 400,000 | Mar 30 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - What is the effect of WikiLeaks for Freedom of Information? | IFLA | http://www.ifla.org/publications/what-is-the-effect-of-wikileaks-for-freedom-of-information | Mar 30 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - WikiLeaks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks | Mar 30 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Iraq war logs: British legal threat as UN calls on Obama to look at ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/23/iraq-war-logs-legal-britain | Mar 30 15:50 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - EXCLUSIVE: WikiLeaks Prepares Largest Intel Leak in US History ... | http://www.democracynow.org/2010/10/22/wikileaks_prepares_largest_intel_leak_in | Mar 30 15:50 |
| schestowitz | !google uk media censorship wikileaks | Mar 30 15:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - WikiLeaks shutdown calls spark censorship row | Media | The ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-censorship-row | Mar 30 15:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - WikiLeaks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks | Mar 30 15:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - Wikileaks: UK issues DA-Notice as US briefs ... - Index on Censorship | http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2010/11/us-uk-wikileaks-d-notice-leak/ | Mar 30 15:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Media warned over next WikiLeaks story | Liberal Conspiracy | http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/11/26/media-censored-from-reporting-on-next-wikileaks-story/ | Mar 30 15:51 |
| schestowitz | I can't find it | Mar 30 15:51 |
| schestowitz | there's another recent one, 400,000 items leaked | Mar 30 15:51 |
| schestowitz | war crimes | Mar 30 15:51 |
| schestowitz | british journalists warned not to pay attention | Mar 30 15:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | of course | Mar 30 15:52 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: so you'd ignoe krugman too? | Mar 30 15:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | wikileaks is the only credible threat to hegemony/plutocracy | Mar 30 15:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: no, we've discussed this before | Mar 30 15:52 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 30 15:52 |
| schestowitz | and I covered what's relevant to techrights in it | Mar 30 15:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i don't think krugman will last there though | Mar 30 15:52 |
| schestowitz | the rest of the media moved on | Mar 30 15:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: the NYT cannot print someone like Robert Reich | Mar 30 15:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: Krugman is still tolerated | Mar 30 15:53 |
| schestowitz | not good to be associated with "rapist" and "Crime" and "Blood on their hands" | Mar 30 15:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: but ppl like him are sacrificed all the time, at the edges | Mar 30 15:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: he is at the ;edge; | Mar 30 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I checked wikileaks mirrors the other day | Mar 30 15:53 |
| schestowitz | many are gone | Mar 30 15:53 |
| schestowitz | I found a few that still work | Mar 30 15:53 |
| schestowitz | age will take care of them... | Mar 30 15:53 |
| schestowitz | dustbin of history.. | Mar 30 15:53 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: or Frost, or Pilger | Mar 30 15:54 |
| schestowitz | but they defy same basic rules of the NYT trend-setting | Mar 30 15:55 |
| schestowitz | which would discredit other writers there | Mar 30 15:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | not sure what you mean | Mar 30 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | Krugman is a low value pawn to NYT | Mar 30 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | he subsists on the margin | Mar 30 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | i think he knows the deal, he calculates at least he can do SOME good | Mar 30 15:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | but if he went radical, he'd be instantly off their syndication | Mar 30 15:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's like the GS thing | Mar 30 15:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | the moment that it doesn't serve the interests of NYT people, poof, the story would never get past their firewall | Mar 30 16:00 |
| schestowitz | maybe posted elsewhere | Mar 30 16:04 |
| schestowitz | but it would not have the same reach and credibility ("journal of record") | Mar 30 16:05 |
| schestowitz | they also have blogs now | Mar 30 16:05 |
| schestowitz | where they can put stuff and control official-ness | Mar 30 16:05 |
| schestowitz | or control visibility, like choosing page number in a paper | Mar 30 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://www.wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html | Mar 30 16:26 |
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| schestowitz | "Site is undergoing a maintenance, please try again later." | Mar 30 16:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.darkstarlings.com/bbs/20/Bill-Gates-on-population-control-123541-1/ | Mar 30 16:39 |
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| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: So the unadulterated fuckers plan to cut the CBC budget | Mar 30 17:28 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I wonder how long before they endorse Sun News | Mar 30 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1471855 | Mar 30 18:12 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: MeeGo gets a stay of execution? Two new Nokia MeeGo phones reportedly in the works http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/28/meego-gets-a-stay-of-execution-two-new-nokia-meego-phones-reportedly-in-the-works/ #nokia back to #linux so fast? | Mar 30 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | "@mike ever wanted to have a n900.... " | Mar 30 18:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: 瑨灴㩳⼯潪湩楤獡潰慲挮浯瀯獯獴ㄯ㜴㜳㔰 | Mar 30 18:13 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: fgsfds | Mar 30 18:14 |
| schestowitz | test ok | Mar 30 18:15 |
| schestowitz | your keyboard works | Mar 30 18:16 |
| schestowitz | oops | Mar 30 18:16 |
| schestowitz | my bad | Mar 30 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I pasted the wrong thing | Mar 30 18:16 |
| schestowitz | synergy fail | Mar 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 18:17 |
| schestowitz | maybe this https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1473705 | Mar 30 18:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | @brainsnail@despora.de:  | Mar 30 18:18 |
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| MinceR | lol | Mar 30 18:18 |
| schestowitz | although it would be nice if they did believe that | Mar 30 18:19 |
| schestowitz | [that gravity is justa theory] | Mar 30 18:19 |
| schestowitz | [and jumped from buildings] | Mar 30 18:19 |
| schestowitz | that woule live like only the bright 10% of this planet alive... to reproduce... S L O W L Y | Mar 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 30 18:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | XFaCE: Sun News is already a conservative project. for quite a while now. | Mar 30 18:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | "We need a Fox News North [to counterbalance Canadian communists]" | Mar 30 18:28 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: Oh I knew that | Mar 30 18:28 |
| XFaCE | I just think they'll be more upfront about it now | Mar 30 18:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | the CBC is a known bastion of socialism | Mar 30 18:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | worse, they report facts, like Statscan | Mar 30 18:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | so you have to cut off its air supply | Mar 30 18:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | same with Environment Canada - funding cut | Mar 30 18:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | anything that attacks their interests, they'll cut | Mar 30 18:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | like hundreds of women's groups | Mar 30 18:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | "We're rich white men. Women are not in our club." | Mar 30 18:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | women's orgs* | Mar 30 18:30 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: you misspelled "shite" | Mar 30 18:30 |
| schestowitz | they are not always white anymor | Mar 30 18:30 |
| schestowitz | but they're all utter s**** | Mar 30 18:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | honorary white | Mar 30 18:30 |
| schestowitz | White-collar | Mar 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | wannabe white? | Mar 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | today I had a chat about this stuff | Mar 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | and how people evaluated based on wage and such | Mar 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | part of the same system, driving everyone among the peers into the same gameplay | Mar 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | stmpers for peer accepted | Mar 30 18:31 |
| schestowitz | chop down forest, get sex | Mar 30 18:32 |
| XFaCE | And now, some FUCKING GOOD NEWS! | Mar 30 18:33 |
| XFaCE | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/MichaelGeistsBlog/~3/V5yY8aUYI6c/ | Mar 30 18:33 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Michael Geist - Canadian Hurt Locker Lawsuits Withdrawn .::. Size~: 48.93 KB | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | it's extremely hard to find people who are not spoiled by this mindset | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | let alone ones who are also well educated and not just victims of the mindset (and thus forced to realise it) | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: what about the USian one? | Mar 30 18:33 |
| schestowitz | 13k people IIRC | Mar 30 18:33 |
| XFaCE | It's confusomg | Mar 30 18:34 |
| XFaCE | Ot | Mar 30 18:34 |
| XFaCE | It's declared unconstitutional, then they survive somehow | Mar 30 18:34 |
| schestowitz | precedence | Mar 30 19:16 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TechJournalist/status/185791305035681792?iid=am-206364096013331310738364937&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Mar 30 19:23 |
| TechrightsSocial | @TechJournalist: @schestowitz even more ironic - is the fact that Ballmer/Novell claimed patent FUD. Today the USPTO uses Red Hat. | Mar 30 19:23 |
| schestowitz | Hehe | Mar 30 19:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92331188 | Mar 30 19:51 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 30-Mar-12 18:39:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz they're said to also work on getting in the smart phone market. | Mar 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1474939 | Mar 30 20:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft is still working on making the term "open source" meaningless. | Mar 30 20:43 |
| schestowitz | |It's not like they just open-sourced asp.net or anything. Evil $hills. " | Mar 30 20:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/03/11393/resources-investigating-alecnra-gun-bills | Mar 30 22:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Resources for Investigating ALEC/NRA Gun Bills | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 59.32 KB | Mar 30 22:41 |
| MinceR | http://dmitry.co/index.php?p=./04.Thoughts/07.+Linux+on+8bit#uniqstr_1333116967365_q | Mar 30 23:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Dmitry Grinberg .::. Size~: 17.36 KB | Mar 30 23:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: more proof that Forbes is corrupted: "AMY GOODMAN: In response to your article, Jim Bamford, Forbes Magazine published a piece yesterday by Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute called "NSA’s Secret Data Center Is a Threat, But Only to America’s Enemies." | Mar 30 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: publishing pure propaganda | Mar 30 23:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest_and | Mar 30 23:38 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Exposed: Inside the NSA’s Largest and Most Expansive Secret Domestic Spy Center in Bluffdale, Utah .::. Size~: 92 KB | Mar 30 23:38 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: naa.. I trust their channel | Mar 30 23:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | what? | Mar 30 23:40 |
| schestowitz | who paid them in the donations drive? | Mar 30 23:40 |
| schestowitz | DN is good | Mar 30 23:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | no, | Mar 30 23:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | FORBES | Mar 30 23:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm not talking abtou DN | Mar 30 23:40 |
| qu1j0t3 | DN is quoting Forbes | Mar 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | oh, I see now | Mar 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | LOL Forbs | Mar 30 23:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Mar 30 23:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | Forbes, whose role has always been to stay in charge of what the public should believe about plutocrats. | Mar 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | I consider them mostly to be those that lead the "you wanna be rich" propaganda | Mar 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | yeah, that too | Mar 30 23:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | the 'rich list' is all fabrication | Mar 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | who's richest? | Mar 30 23:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | no. the list. | Mar 30 23:42 |
| qu1j0t3 | they're in charge of maintaining this fiction | Mar 30 23:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | and nobody's challenging them | Mar 30 23:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's not even useful, even if it were factual | Mar 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | what's it based on, research? | Mar 30 23:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | but everybody treats it as authoritative | Mar 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Similar lists exist in othwrcountries | Mar 30 23:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | research? heh | Mar 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | mostly inteligence and estimates | Mar 30 23:44 |
| schestowitz | university rankins can be the same | Mar 30 23:44 |
| schestowitz | although in the UK we have a non-private body for this | Mar 30 23:44 |
| schestowitz | RAE reviews | Mar 30 23:44 |
| schestowitz | once in 5 years | Mar 30 23:44 |
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