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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @habi you are the enemy | Apr 03 00:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @bruce89 race to the left | Apr 03 00:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1483237 | Apr 03 00:08 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Apr 03 00:08 |
| schestowitz | "Freedom, privacy, and security are benefits that are less contestible than monetary savings. The money is being cited for political reasons, and will be contested for political reasons. History teaches us not to trust statements about the cost of Free Software from politicians, whether they be positive or negative. " | Apr 03 00:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good luck with all that | Apr 03 00:08 |
| schestowitz | [23:44] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: It's not like I'm going to die if I have to live a few months without buying so much crap I guess | Apr 03 00:09 |
| schestowitz | except food | Apr 03 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Apr 03 00:09 |
| schestowitz | but why get into this stress in the first place? | Apr 03 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | I can get my food budget way down I guess | Apr 03 00:09 |
| schestowitz | don't sell your life to lenders | Apr 03 00:09 |
| schestowitz | filthy greedy punks | Apr 03 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz I'm not | Apr 03 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying to buy it back | Apr 03 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | in installments! | Apr 03 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | like I said, I need to hit this with everything I can for a few months | Apr 03 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | which might include some baloney and macaroni and cheese | Apr 03 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | oh well | Apr 03 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | 3 months of misery beats dragging this out as long as they can rake me over the coals for | Apr 03 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 03 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | the federal laws only say a minimum loan payment has to be interest accrued for that month + 2% of the principle | Apr 03 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | so technically any credit card bill, any "loan" for dental work....etc. | Apr 03 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | you could be talking 4 years to pay that back if you only make the minimum payments | Apr 03 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | and they get to extract half again what you borrowed from them in that amount of time through interest | Apr 03 00:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Copyright max alert⇒Hollywood formally brings ISPs into anti-piracy fight http://www.ur1.ca/8w279 Center for Copyright Information (CCI) | Apr 03 00:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Munich mayor says switch to Linux is cheaper and reduced complaints - http://ur1.ca/24l9t http://goo.gl/nEhGh #flossfiles | Apr 03 00:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hollywood formally brings ISPs into the anti-piracy fight | Media Maverick - CNET News .::. Size~: 79.27 KB | Apr 03 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Latest IT News and Computer Reviews, and Analysis - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 86.4 KB | Apr 03 00:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Munich mayor says switch to Linux is cheaper and reduced complaints - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 94.42 KB | Apr 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | and god help you if you miss a payment...the law lets them jack up your interest to up to and including 34% APR for "not more than 6 months" | Apr 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | after adding up to $35 to your balance for the late payment, and charging interest on that too | Apr 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | they make it really easy to fall behind and never be able to catch up | Apr 03 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | so, if you're already trapped, the best thing you can do is kill it with fire | Apr 03 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | pay it back as fast as you possibly can, even if it eats into all of your money for a while | Apr 03 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | the other choice is to end up either missing a payment at some point and having to start over from scratch (basically) or to file bankruptcy | Apr 03 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | these are truly, truly evil people | Apr 03 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | if there is a hell, they deserve the one where you get sliced up and soaked in salt water for all eternity | Apr 03 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | credit cards are like smoking, it's better if you just don't start | Apr 03 00:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Epiphany: the minimalist GNOME browser http://ur1.ca/8w35s | Apr 03 00:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Subscription required [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 4.8 KB | Apr 03 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | because those minimum payments are designed so you're taking two steps forward and a step back every month | Apr 03 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | the examples I see a lot are "John has a credit card with $5,000 on it" | Apr 03 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | well, John better hope he never loses his job | Apr 03 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | or the credit card default will be the dessert after the main course of John losing his home | Apr 03 00:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The #Debian Administrator's Handbook - Google+ - We're getting closer and closer to the book release. Le... http://goo.gl/2X746 | Apr 03 00:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Debian Administrator's Handbook - Google+ - We're getting closer and closer to the book release. Let me… .::. Size~: 85.45 KB | Apr 03 00:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TOTAL RECALL - Official Trailer Colin Farrell, Kate Beckinsale HD 1080p - YouTube http://goo.gl/Xxjcl it looks better than the other...cool! | Apr 03 00:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @digimer I challenge everyone to read !FreeByron transcripts then tell me we have a charter of any worth. http://www.ur1.ca/5xd4n !Canada | Apr 03 00:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @digimer [The Charter] is worthless. They admitted to repeatedly violating his rights & … no redress. All evidence was admitted !FreeByron | Apr 03 00:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Despite Drop In Piracy, French Music Industry Still In Decline - Slashdot http://goo.gl/XZGBj #mafiaa #france - #sarkonazi and friends | Apr 03 00:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Despite Drop In Piracy, French Music Industry Still In Decline - Slashdot .::. Size~: 233.53 KB | Apr 03 00:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I bought the wrong frozen chips. They are helical extruded potato mush. | Apr 03 00:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Oil Rush Review - Oil Rush Download - Softpedia http://goo.gl/3Olws #games #gnulinux | Apr 03 01:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] NATO is continuing as if it was 1989; militarism despite their failures, even as the power shifts to Asia. #stupid | Apr 03 01:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @lycangrrl Do the right thing, !Canada: Free Byron Sonne! !freebyron !CDNpoli | Apr 03 01:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Dehydrating Foods – A Pros and Cons Analysis - American #Preppers Network http://goo.gl/2pZZW | Apr 03 01:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Can the USA be thought of as a civilised country as long as it kills its own citizens? | Apr 03 01:34 | |
| scientes | hahahahaha look at this gem | Apr 03 01:37 |
| scientes | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184324 | Apr 03 01:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bug 184324 – Crash at Imap access / while starting [[QTreeWidgetItem::*], KMail::FolderView::slotFolderExpanded] .::. Size~: 103.16 KB | Apr 03 01:37 |
| scientes | 3 years of "bug X marked as duplicate" | Apr 03 01:37 |
| scientes | and zero attempt to figure out what the problem is | Apr 03 01:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !gnu !linuxlibre 3.3.1-gnu and 3.2.14-gnu sources are now available (waiting for 3.0.27 upstream tarball to clean up) | Apr 03 01:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] HITLER'S ENGINEERS: Fritz Todt and Albert Speer - Master Builders of the Third Reich (9781932033687) #Books http://goo.gl/Hx2H9 | Apr 03 01:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: HITLER'S ENGINEERS: Fritz Todt and Albert Speer - Master Builders of the Third Reich (9781932033687): Blaine Taylor: Books .::. Size~: 384.94 KB | Apr 03 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan @support I regret giving up ability to delete & request this one stay silent [http://identi.ca/conversation/92110555#notice-92409089] | Apr 03 01:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera Can the USA be thought of as a civilised country as long as it kills its own citizens? | Apr 03 01:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf Identizens. | Apr 03 01:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Identica is supposed to be a safe place; I'm sorry I gave up the power to delete accounts, @lstench | Apr 03 01:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @satipera !tzaf | Apr 03 01:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] I thought the !Mageia forum and #Mageia wiki for example were still down, but just went on them and they are working fine. | Apr 03 02:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Just found out in the comments before the dent I just sent. It was a faulty RJ45 cable: http://ur1.ca/8vdp0 !Mageia #Mageia | Apr 03 03:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Servers downtime | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 36.48 KB | Apr 03 03:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] OK, I've deleted that user. | Apr 03 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Anyway, it's inappropriate for me to respond "tough shit" to a user. My apologies. | Apr 03 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thank you @evan | Apr 03 03:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good, @lstench It makes me sad too when encountering people so pathetic/hateful. fyi @evan to the rescue http://identi.ca/notice/92411171 | Apr 03 03:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Evan Prodromou (evan)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Apr-12 02:19:14 UTC - Identi.ca: OK, I've deleted that user. | Apr 03 03:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] voted for "140, like Twitter" | Apr 03 03:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 140 characters keeps my dents focused; often when those with unlimited instances post to !identica, when I click "expand", dent disappears | Apr 03 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 Crown: "...to tie the explosives too tightly into anything to do with the G20... it's really a distraction." !FreeByron !CDNpoli | Apr 03 03:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] You did a great job, Chris! ♺ @ch402 #RvSonne notes for today. Trial is over. http://www.ur1.ca/8w4i0 !FreeByron !Canada !CDNpoli | Apr 03 03:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @ch402 Reminder: the verdict should be on April 23rd. !FreeByron #RvSonne !Canada !CDNpoli #g20report | Apr 03 04:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'd like to thank all of !freeByron 's supporters for sharing information & making it possible for netizens everywhere to follow the trial | Apr 03 04:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @pussreboots The PussReboots Daily is out! http://www.ur1.ca/8w50l ▸ Top stories today via @laurelrusswurm @lambdalibris | Apr 03 05:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] drifting off to the land of nod... time to say good night !identiverse !tzaf | Apr 03 05:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Used to like SF because it was so different from NY. Now like downtown SF because it reminds me of what NY used to be like. | Apr 03 05:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nachdem man 11.000 mal den Schlecker Damen die kalte Schulter gezeigt hat, stellt sich die FDP jetzt auch auf die Seit... http://b1t.it/bgrJ | Apr 03 06:39 | |
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| zer0c00l | "Tandoori Chicken", "Mutton Biryani", "Holy cow!" are suggested as possible release names for #fedora 18. ;) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_18 | Apr 03 06:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Open GLAM Workshop in Berlin 20 April – Register now! via @okfn - http://goo.gl/jqXmy | Apr 03 07:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Die GEMA dreht dann mal ein bisschen an der Preisschraube. So 600% plus an einer Stelle, und ein bisschen weniger an a... http://b1t.it/bgss | Apr 03 07:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu Weekly News #259 - http://ur1.ca/8w5tl #ubuntu | Apr 03 07:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] voted for "140, like Twitter" | Apr 03 07:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The Magic of Editable PDFs http://ur1.ca/8tgdy #business #microsoft #office #linux #gnu #software | Apr 03 07:54 | |
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| schestowitz | morning all | Apr 03 08:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview with Fabio Erculiani of #Sabayon Linux http://ur1.ca/8w68n #gnu #linux | Apr 03 08:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trine 2 Finally Arrives on Linux http://ur1.ca/8w690 #trine #gnu #linux | Apr 03 08:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piratenpartei steigt bundesweit auf 12 Prozent - http://bit.ly/HSasR1 wow; other parties should be quaking in their boots. #ACTA, anyone? | Apr 03 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An Essay on the New Aesthetic - http://bit.ly/HDSVPk rambling but worth reading (v @boingboing) | Apr 03 08:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ice Cream Sandwich gives Android mobes brainfreeze – Sony http://ur1.ca/8w69m #android #linux #SCOny | Apr 03 08:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Migrate all UK government IT to Linux based systems - http://bit.ly/HHEWDp rather forlorn hope, but hey... #epetitions | Apr 03 08:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux on the Desktop - Dead Again? http://ur1.ca/8w6b2 feeding provocateurs again | Apr 03 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft makes Top 20 list of Linux kernel contributors - http://bit.ly/HN7mzu how times change | Apr 03 08:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gentoo 12.1 Install Wizard: Real or Joke http://ur1.ca/8w6bm #gnu #linux | Apr 03 08:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yahoo!’s Mojito is Now Open Source http://ur1.ca/8w4ab #yahoo #opensource | Apr 03 08:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Prometheus v Mayo – A European view - http://bit.ly/HDUVqC further proof the #EPO is a waste of space #patents | Apr 03 09:01 | |
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| prurigro | http://i.imgur.com/vTMii.png | Apr 03 09:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Seems like @sjvn writes "CSIRO" as "CISRO" - patent troll either way, should have public funds withdrawn. | Apr 03 09:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Going global in search of great art - http://bit.ly/HctiBG "30,000 high-resolution artworks"; sounds good #google | Apr 03 09:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Red Hat donates $100,000 to "the future of open source" - http://bit.ly/HQpuFv good to see #cc #eff #sflc #unicef | Apr 03 09:11 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 03 09:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eric #Whitacre's Virtual Choir 3, 'Water Night' - http://bit.ly/HDXpWd do not miss eric's latest hi-tech wonder | Apr 03 09:13 | |
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| prurigro | MinceR, how goes? | Apr 03 09:13 |
| MinceR | sleepy | Apr 03 09:13 |
| prurigro | oh yea? bedtime soon? | Apr 03 09:14 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, no | Apr 03 09:14 |
| prurigro | how come? got stuff to do? | Apr 03 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] National Occupation of Washington, DC Begins with Demonstration at the EPA http://ur1.ca/8w6g8 #epa | Apr 03 09:14 | |
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| MinceR | usually i catch up with sleep on the weekend, but this weekend was very busy | Apr 03 09:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #epetition: Scrap Plans to Monitor all Emails and Web Usage - http://bit.ly/H5Eijs UK people please sign & RT #CCDP | Apr 03 09:16 | |
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| prurigro | ahh, I hate it when that happens | Apr 03 09:18 |
| prurigro | you end up spending the whole week dragging your feet | Apr 03 09:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/4/2012: Fuduntu 2012.2, Ubuntu 12.04 CD Cover http://ur1.ca/8w6h9 #techrights | Apr 03 09:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A dangerous erosion of individual liberty - http://ind.pn/HQqbP4 good summary of why this is a stupid idea #CCDP | Apr 03 09:21 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92398027 http://vhanda.in/blog/2012/04/virtuoso-problems-no-more/ | Apr 03 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Monday, 02-Apr-12 15:14:28 UTC - Identi.ca: My personal favorite of April's fools: http://is.gd/RASI8a | Apr 03 09:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Surveillance plans: key questions - http://bit.ly/HhdD4F excellent stuff from #ORG: why we must fight this #CCDP | Apr 03 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: #epetition: Scrap Plans to Monitor all Emails and Web Usage - http://bit.ly/H5Eijs UK people please sign & RT #CCDP | Apr 03 09:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #Kochs and the #Cato Institute: a hostile takover? http://gu.com/p/36j4t | Apr 03 09:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Kochs and the Cato Institute: a hostile takover? | James Antle | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 180.84 KB | Apr 03 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Highland's Hi-Ex comic convention http://goo.gl/mAlPs now we find out why @kevie is in #Inverness #StarWars - he's the lone #GunGan lol | Apr 03 09:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @IgorOstrowski: RT @r_swetenham: Version 4.0 – License Draft Ready for Public Comment! - Creative Commons http://t.co/SPQxkbnR | Apr 03 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Boris Johnson plans to give police access to congestion charge cameras - http://bit.ly/HbrEyu just lost my vote, then #london | Apr 03 09:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !RedHat donates money to FOSS community bodies - iTWire http://ping.fm/RhLnt | Apr 03 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Who uses !Ubuntu Linux, and why? Survey offers new insight. - ARNnet http://ping.fm/mcumF | Apr 03 10:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Books should be as easy to create as websites http://ping.fm/hYklc | Apr 03 10:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK government's new plans for mass surveillance - http://bit.ly/HhbVRE "no place in a country that would call itself free" (v @ralpost) | Apr 03 10:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] India launches "open government platform" http://goo.gl/sks19 via @schestowitz (on Reddit) | Apr 03 10:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] question: why is there no #pirateparty candidate for London Mayor? I'd vote for them, I'm sure others would #fail | Apr 03 10:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] European Parliament Votes Against ECJ Legal Review of #ACTA http://ping.fm/GcYfs | Apr 03 10:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] ξεκίνησα τη μερα ακουγωντας τον @antidrasex με τους Humba. Ενδιαφερουσα συζη., χαλαρο κλίμα.Αν την χασατε, ακουστε την http://ur1.ca/8w6y1 | Apr 03 10:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: radiobubble - liveradio: Έρωτας μετά τα @trianta, #24, guests HUMBA! .::. Size~: 122.94 KB | Apr 03 10:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Android bot attacks rooted smartphones http://ping.fm/EFidv | Apr 03 10:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "my experiences with fact or reality based studies, is that they are the enemy" - #MPAA #RIAA #BSA @x11r5 | Apr 03 11:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cops feel the schlong harm of the law http://goo.gl/ufZaF wtf censor nature? unless it makes the #Sun's male editors feel inadequete | Apr 03 11:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the whole reason for the story, is that the horse has a hard on, they BOLD & CAPS relevant words but censor the images | Apr 03 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] knowing the #Sun's rather flighty relation to the truth, how do we know it's not altered? they do like inventing evidence to match a story | Apr 03 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Punish them for spying on you - http://bit.ly/Hc9yS8 gladly: but how? piece doesn't offer answers here (V @~PrivacyInternational) #CCDP | Apr 03 11:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Zapraszamy na konferencję "Edukacja w wersji Open" - gratulujemy ZS Cegłów organizacji! bit.ly/Hk6qNU :) !fwioo | Apr 03 11:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Was er sagt. http://ur1.ca/8w7k0 | Apr 03 11:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] German Scriptwriters Attack 'Greens, Pirates, Left-wingers And Internet Community' For Different Views On #Copyright - http://bit.ly/HcLoY2 | Apr 03 12:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] για διαβαστε εδω - "Προστατεύοντας την ζωή μου από την Google – gmail" http://identi.ca/url/68616868 της @catalternative | Apr 03 12:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Stanowisko @FWiOO w sprawie konkursu Logia: bit.ly/HcOhUj !FWiOO #OEIiZK | Apr 03 12:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @inscius U.K. sharia laws. http://ur1.ca/8w7gr Just good ole colonial Indirect Rule. | Apr 03 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody UK government's new plans for mass surveillance - http://bit.ly/HhbVRE "no place in a country that would call itself free" ... | Apr 03 13:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody UK Surveillance plans: key questions - http://bit.ly/HhdD4F excellent stuff from #ORG: why we must fight this #CCDP | Apr 03 13:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Piratenpartij weigert TPB-proxy offline te halen - http://bit.ly/HEEQkF dutch pirates show some backbone (v @AdV007) #nl | Apr 03 13:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Arizona Passes Sweeping Internet Censorship Bill - http://bit.ly/HMyYQa insane: "illegal to use “offensive” language online" (v @Beautyon_) | Apr 03 13:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux's cancer is cured!!! http://goo.gl/9hJTd #gnulinux #floss | Apr 03 13:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Maintaining' 'lawful' intercept capability - http://bit.ly/Hbbb0E "a claim built on strata upon strata of sand" - great post #CCDP | Apr 03 13:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Another World 20th Anniversary Edition headed to #Android | Joystiq http://goo.gl/Q8cag #games ..... so coooool!!!! | Apr 03 13:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Google Research - "Excellent Papers for 2011" http://identi.ca/url/68618009 | Apr 03 13:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Getting a visum for Russia is quite sreamlined but still costs a lot of time. Have reserved next monday and tuesday to... http://b1t.it/bgCf | Apr 03 13:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] C++ programming pioneer hacks off-grid, DIY, smart home - YouTube http://goo.gl/4RC9f #preppers | Apr 03 13:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Should we pay more money to bureaucracy to make it less appealing? asks @AlexBodislav of @InfinitumGroup | red.ht/HhAP3y | Apr 03 14:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning @sandersch | Apr 03 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Leading article: A dangerous erosion of individual liberty - The Independent http://goo.gl/kupUV #uk #policestate | Apr 03 14:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @johnfmoore !GovInTheLab Blackout ACTA Day. Let’s Go Dark on May 1. http://bit.ly/HhLiva | Apr 03 14:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | and the paycheck rolls in | Apr 03 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | and I get to feel it, touch it, even smell it | Apr 03 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | and then it goes right back out | Apr 03 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 14:08 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 03 14:08 |
| schestowitz | you wor to survive | Apr 03 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Apr 03 14:09 |
| schestowitz | at least o don't have child sup;port deducted from the wage | Apr 03 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | each month, someone pops up that wasn't in the budget | Apr 03 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | that's true | Apr 03 14:09 |
| fewt | what up | Apr 03 14:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: reality of no job security | Apr 03 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'm trying to get all my debt paid off by July | Apr 03 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | that's my goal | Apr 03 14:10 |
| oiaohm | I have been lucky I have run debt free all my life. | Apr 03 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | I made a list of everything I was spending that I could live without and what it was costing me on average per day | Apr 03 14:10 |
| schestowitz | kitty litter | Apr 03 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | and so every day I'm going to log into the credit card website and punch that in as a "micropayment" | Apr 03 14:11 |
| oiaohm | That is exactly where to start. | Apr 03 14:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada learn from UK's Lawful Access: "A dangerous erosion of individual liberty"~Independent http://www.ur1.ca/8w9ds via @ovigia !CDNpoli | Apr 03 14:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good morning @vk7hse | Apr 03 14:11 | |
| schestowitz | teacj jabba to flush | Apr 03 14:11 |
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| DaemonFC | and that's in addition to the monthly payments I was making that I already had in the budget | Apr 03 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Also did you think of freesing you credit card debit. | Apr 03 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, yes, I called the card company and told them to freeze the account | Apr 03 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | closing it actually hurts your credit | Apr 03 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Depends how you close it. | Apr 03 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | but with it frozen, I can't just be walking through a store and see a shiny thing and swipe the card and then kick myself later | Apr 03 14:12 |
| oiaohm | If you close by using a low interest personal loan. | Apr 03 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | I could unfreeze it but it would force me to call them, spend 20 minutes or so on the phone | Apr 03 14:12 |
| oiaohm | No long term record problem. | Apr 03 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm hoping that will act as a cool down where I start thinking "I don't need this crap" | Apr 03 14:13 |
| schestowitz | what you want is not what you need... | Apr 03 14:13 |
| oiaohm | I never had a credit card. | Apr 03 14:13 |
| schestowitz | and all that jaz... | Apr 03 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | don't | Apr 03 14:13 |
| oiaohm | I have debit cards. | Apr 03 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | EVER | Apr 03 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | you WILL be sorry | Apr 03 14:13 |
| oiaohm | Also I am warped. | Apr 03 14:13 |
| schestowitz | credit cards are the outcome of very few people have all the wealth | Apr 03 14:14 |
| schestowitz | making money from money... | Apr 03 14:14 |
| oiaohm | I have a lot of share trading accounts that don't trade shares. | Apr 03 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | I was doing good for a while and then, shiny thing alert | Apr 03 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | and now I have a freaking TV set that I wish I could just give back and call it even | Apr 03 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | and a couple other things | Apr 03 14:14 |
| oiaohm | Since share trading accounts pay interest while money is sitting there. | Apr 03 14:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stop UK Government Snooping - http://bit.ly/HhF9jj good to see 38degrees on the case: please support & RT #CCDP | Apr 03 14:14 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you work for a pile of plastic and ewaste now | Apr 03 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz for a while | Apr 03 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | spilled milk | Apr 03 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 03 14:15 |
| oiaohm | Credit cards are mostly a trick. | Apr 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/sjvn/status/187164885329776640?iid=am-212939495113334585609547434&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Apr 03 14:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @sjvn: @schestowitz I'm only mis-spelled it once! For me, that's not bad! :-) | Apr 03 14:15 |
| oiaohm | To get you to spend more money then you have. | Apr 03 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | no sense in kicking myself for it when I could just pay it back and learn the lesson | Apr 03 14:15 |
| oiaohm | And in the process of paying back the credit card ends up with less money to spend over all. | Apr 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | heh | Apr 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | well put | Apr 03 14:16 |
| oiaohm | So basically credit cards are how to attempt to bankrupt your self. | Apr 03 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | life is full of fuck ups where you can't go back and undo them but you can fix them and learn not to repeat the mistake | Apr 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | trading patience for being tricked | Apr 03 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm chalking this up to that | Apr 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | hehe | Apr 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | Dawn's borad is all full | Apr 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | full of names | Apr 03 14:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: you did not have the luck of having accountant as a mother. | Apr 03 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | Dawn is never going to improve | Apr 03 14:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so yep my mother taught me young that lending money suxed. | Apr 03 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | Dawn is wasting away one day of alcoholism, chain smoking, and unprotected sex at a time | Apr 03 14:17 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: borrowing | Apr 03 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Don't be a Dawn :) | Apr 03 14:17 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: lending money suxs as well. | Apr 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Dawn't do it! | Apr 03 14:18 |
| oiaohm | Because people hate you for it when they have to pay you back. | Apr 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: oh, true that | Apr 03 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, credit card companies try to figure out how much money you make and then take you to the tipping point | Apr 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | then you hire some proxy like the real buggers do | Apr 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | the lenders hide behind proxies | Apr 03 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | they try to figure out the exact point where you're overloaded but probably still able to pay them back eventually | Apr 03 14:18 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: thinking I don't have a debt problem. | Apr 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | who beat people up and harass them | Apr 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: DaemonFC gets phonecalls from a proxy of some local hospital | Apr 03 14:19 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so the only stupid thing left I can do is lend money. | Apr 03 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | they do want their money paid back at some point | Apr 03 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | that's why there's a credit limit on each card | Apr 03 14:19 |
| schestowitz | limit of one's life worth | Apr 03 14:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I have had the fun of my dog issued a credit card. | Apr 03 14:19 |
| schestowitz | if they can sell you to slavery, they can recoup that limit | Apr 03 14:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Missed the CC Salon in London on #OER? Here's a brief recap + photos: http://ur1.ca/8w9gw | Apr 03 14:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I guess, but at least it stops you at some point | Apr 03 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | if nothing else does | Apr 03 14:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I really did want to know how they were planning on getting the money back. | Apr 03 14:20 |
| schestowitz | lending in the family is bad too... ruins relations | Apr 03 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | the Bundys got a credit card in their dog's name in one episode | Apr 03 14:20 |
| oiaohm | Really wish I still had the card. | Apr 03 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | in another, Al was saying that he wouldn't bother paying back his cards because it "serves them right for giving him one" | Apr 03 14:21 |
| oiaohm | it was to Mr Bouncer Woof | Apr 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | no matter is done with legal guarantees or not... it's like bossing a relative or selling something to family | Apr 03 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | and "let every other sucker pay higher interest" because of him | Apr 03 14:21 |
| oiaohm | You would think that name would be suspect. | Apr 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they'll find out whose dog it was :-) | Apr 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | private invetigator | Apr 03 14:21 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I've managed to cut to abotu half of where it all was at the beginning of the year | Apr 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | woof to buy pechanside in internet cafe :-) | Apr 03 14:22 |
| schestowitz | linux with SSL | Apr 03 14:22 |
| oiaohm | All traced back to the fact I entered my dog for a dog food competition. | Apr 03 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | I figure if I hit it with everything and don't let up, it can all be behind me by June or July | Apr 03 14:22 |
| oiaohm | I warped entered the dog in the dogs name since that is who would be eating it. | Apr 03 14:22 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: must be some GOOD TV... was it worth it? | Apr 03 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Yeah, it is a nice TV at least | Apr 03 14:23 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: do a no Net month, no AC month, no shower month, selling your body to Dawn month.. | Apr 03 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm | Apr 03 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather be in debt for a few more months if I was going to have to sell myself to Dawn | Apr 03 14:23 |
| schestowitz | it's not like she's used to folks who shower | Apr 03 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Apr 03 14:23 |
| schestowitz | she showers them with kisses | Apr 03 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | she's used to unwashed beer belly hick | Apr 03 14:24 |
| schestowitz | they're easy pickings | Apr 03 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | my landlord had me go over and knock on her door the other day because she's behind on her rent | Apr 03 14:24 |
| schestowitz | Dawn reversed the wooing game | Apr 03 14:24 |
| schestowitz | she's a stud | Apr 03 14:25 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: did you take a collection fee. | Apr 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | and Sasquatch opened up the door | Apr 03 14:25 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Yes the rich get rich by not doing anything for free. | Apr 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | no, I'm trying to stay on the landlord's good side until I'm in a position to move | Apr 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | even if that means not telling him exactly what I'd like to | Apr 03 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | life is full of that too | Apr 03 14:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: Dawn's yard sale: what would be up for sale? | Apr 03 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | not telling people who are in a position to make your life miserable what you're really thinking about them | Apr 03 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fear outweighs hope in #ACTA debate - http://bit.ly/HktwE2 kudos to @davidmartinmep for perceptive analysis (v @FelixTreguer) | Apr 03 14:26 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it all depends when and how you tell them. | Apr 03 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz Empty Franzia boxes and some nice furniture her ex husband bought that she took in the divorce | Apr 03 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 14:27 |
| schestowitz | sad.. | Apr 03 14:27 |
| schestowitz | she could sell her kids | Apr 03 14:27 |
| schestowitz | but that's illegal | Apr 03 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | they don't want anything to do with her | Apr 03 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen them once | Apr 03 14:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Stop UK Government Snooping - http://bit.ly/HhF9jj good to see 38degrees on the case: please support & RT #CCDP | Apr 03 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ovigia Leading article: A dangerous erosion of individual liberty - The Independent http://goo.gl/kupUV #uk #policestate | Apr 03 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] don't be silly, @lstench ... anything that keeps moms sane is good for the kids ;D | Apr 03 14:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | she has two daughters, one is like 19 and the other is 17 | Apr 03 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | they don't get their looks from mom | Apr 03 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | which is good | Apr 03 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | lets hope they aren't chain smokers, alcoholics, whores, or deadbeats like mom is either | Apr 03 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | for their sake | Apr 03 14:28 |
| oiaohm | I have learnt one thing land lords really hate. Its the when you have removed the inside door handle and forget to put it back before inviting them in to give them the cheque. | Apr 03 14:29 |
| oiaohm | Opps I was cleaning it. | Apr 03 14:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Morning, folks. Up for an early start today. | Apr 03 14:29 | |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably get my deposit back | Apr 03 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | he made me put down another $200 to let me have my cat | Apr 03 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | he has dozens of apartments for rent in this town, he told me that I'm the only tenant that's allowed to have a pet | Apr 03 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | not that he hasn't found people with pets though | Apr 03 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | one tenant ended up having a python | Apr 03 14:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Funny how big !Copyright players never pay what they should ♺ @1111aether #WeirdAl is suing #Sony for unpaid #royalties http://ur1.ca/8w9gn | Apr 03 14:34 | |
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| oiaohm | I have pet huntsman spiders. | Apr 03 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Now I have got into trouble for having a pet Hadronyche formidabilis | Apr 03 14:36 |
| oiaohm | Hadronyche formidabilis is from the same family as the syndey funnel web. Only one catch they are about 4 times more toxic. | Apr 03 14:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Nie ma wolności bez squatowości", czyli znów się z WO trudno nie zgodzić: bit.ly/HkvW5L /cc @ElbaZostaje @hackerspacepl | Apr 03 14:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "GNUtrition - News: GNUtrition 0.31.1 Released [Savannah]" http://ur1.ca/8w9o2 | Apr 03 14:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | figure you could let some of those things loose on whoever owns GE Money Bank? | Apr 03 14:38 |
| Omega | landlords are parasites | Apr 03 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | well yeah | Apr 03 14:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Polish gov't funds creation of open textbooks under #CC BY - @ccpolska reports: http://bit.ly/HTTTV0 #OER | Apr 03 14:41 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: note the pets I keep are Australian native creatures to the areas where I am. | Apr 03 14:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: does cause landlords some problems. | Apr 03 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | cats live pretty much anywhere | Apr 03 14:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: how are they pets when they are local to the area. | Apr 03 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | they're considered an exotic invader in some places | Apr 03 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | I hear they wipe out entire species in Australia | Apr 03 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Omega: they's what they think of tenants, too | Apr 03 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | cats are good hunters, possibly too good | Apr 03 14:43 |
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| oiaohm | You don't want to see what your pet cat turns into when it goes wild. | Apr 03 14:45 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: think about 3 times bigger. | Apr 03 14:45 |
| oiaohm | and about 8 times stronger. | Apr 03 14:45 |
| oiaohm | So serous pricks of problems after about 4 to 5 generations wild. | Apr 03 14:45 |
| oiaohm | your general dingo or dog don't stand a chance against them. | Apr 03 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | my jabba cat would never hurt a fly | Apr 03 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | he would meow at it until I killed the fly | Apr 03 14:47 |
| oiaohm | ok so a non hunter. | Apr 03 14:47 |
| oiaohm | The hunter ones are big big problems. | Apr 03 14:47 |
| MinceR | probably wouldn't derive enough nourishment from a fly | Apr 03 14:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @forteller This is EFFing important: #ACTA Could be Passed in 10 Weeks; Take Action Before It’s Too Late http://is.gd/jNssO1 #interne ... | Apr 03 14:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | cats that are domesticated go into a state of extended kittenhood | Apr 03 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | and they imprint on the human or humans that take care of them | Apr 03 14:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @creativecommons Polish gov't funds creation of open textbooks under #CC BY - @ccpolska reports: http://bit.ly/HTTTV0 #OER | Apr 03 14:49 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: this will give you a better idea. You find ferial cats in Australia. Between the weight of 8-18 kg | Apr 03 14:50 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Yes the more generations in the wild the larger they are getting. | Apr 03 14:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Land of the Strip-searched for traffic violations: n.pr/HGM7z4 | Apr 03 14:51 | |
| DaemonFC | Jabba is about 9 | Apr 03 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | but he's just a fat housecat | Apr 03 14:51 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd imagine those wildcats are all muscle | Apr 03 14:51 |
| oiaohm | All muscle no fat. | Apr 03 14:52 |
| oiaohm | So yes nasty bit of works. | Apr 03 14:52 |
| oiaohm | Something you shot at range. | Apr 03 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] harbinger of spring: Canadian Robin http://www.ur1.ca/8w9v6 [though admittedly these guys have been here more than a month #weirdweather ] | Apr 03 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller: This is EFFing important: !ACTA Could be Passed in 10 Weeks; Take Action Before It’s Too Late http://is.gd/jNssO1 | Apr 03 14:53 | |
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| MinceR | why shoot them? | Apr 03 14:53 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: a cat at 18 kgs wild is strong enough to kill a working do you use to move cattle. | Apr 03 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | probably to keep them from picking off small livestock | Apr 03 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Without questions. | Apr 03 14:54 |
| oiaohm | No livestock normally can do the cats in. | Apr 03 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Its the working dogs that have the problem. | Apr 03 14:55 |
| oiaohm | Same with the dingos. | Apr 03 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | that must be some cat if it can kill a good sized dog | Apr 03 14:55 |
| schestowitz | [14:46] <oiaohm> your general dingo or dog don't stand a chance against them. | Apr 03 14:56 |
| schestowitz | did a baby eat your DINGO? | Apr 03 14:56 |
| schestowitz | maybe a baby ate your DINGO | Apr 03 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Dingos very very miss understood creature. | Apr 03 14:57 |
| oiaohm | I had a kelpie dingo cross. | Apr 03 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | I had a boss at one point that had a giant pet rabbit in his office | Apr 03 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | big as my cat | Apr 03 14:57 |
| oiaohm | A pure dingos could possibly kill a child. But normally would not. | Apr 03 14:58 |
| MinceR | oiaohm: i wouldn't miss the dog :> | Apr 03 14:58 |
| oiaohm | The issue in the centre of Australia has always suspected to be a cross breed. | Apr 03 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Dingos are interesting. | Apr 03 14:59 |
| oiaohm | They bond to the first creature they see. | Apr 03 14:59 |
| oiaohm | If that is a human they are 100 percent loyal to that human for life. | Apr 03 15:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: good working dogs take years to train fully. | Apr 03 15:00 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: and are limited numbers each year with the brains to be good. | Apr 03 15:01 |
| MinceR | what now, dogs with brains? | Apr 03 15:01 |
| MinceR | whose head did that dog eat? | Apr 03 15:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @creativecommons: Polish gov't funds creation of open textbooks under !CC BY - @ccpolska reports: http://bit.ly/HTTTV0 #WIN | Apr 03 15:01 | |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: really you never worked with working dogs. | Apr 03 15:04 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: my best was a kelpie collie labrador cross | Apr 03 15:04 |
| MinceR | and that's the way i like it. | Apr 03 15:04 |
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| oiaohm | They do have two major issues. | Apr 03 15:05 |
| oiaohm | 1 they don't respond to pain in normalish way. They will attack what ever hurts them. | Apr 03 15:05 |
| MinceR | kill them in one shot, then | Apr 03 15:05 |
| oiaohm | 2 they have good enough hearing to understand english to about 300 to 400 words. | Apr 03 15:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @CheryldeBoer Say no to #CETA There are many reasons why, here is one: Safe water! http://www.ur1.ca/8wa0l !Canada !CDNpoli | Apr 03 15:06 | |
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| oiaohm | Yes that does make them really fun. | Apr 03 15:06 |
| oiaohm | You can give them normal english style spoken commands. | Apr 03 15:07 |
| oiaohm | These are not your run of mill dogs. MinceR | Apr 03 15:07 |
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| oiaohm | Most dogs people keep as pets are too dumb for me to put up with. | Apr 03 15:08 |
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| MinceR | same here | Apr 03 15:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] That is fabulous news, @rysiek ... in !Canada the dread !copyright collective #AccessCopyright has stranglehold on our school books !CDNpoli | Apr 03 15:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rysiek RT @creativecommons: Polish gov't funds creation of open textbooks under !CC BY - @ccpolska reports: http://bit.ly/HTTTV0 #WIN | Apr 03 15:09 | |
| oiaohm | The proper working dog cross breeds have brains and strenght. | Apr 03 15:09 |
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| oiaohm | kelpie collie labrador cross are fine to drop 4 stories without breaking anything. | Apr 03 15:10 |
| oiaohm | They can get kinda evil exploiting that for rabbit catching. | Apr 03 15:11 |
| oiaohm | Also for some reason that has the habit of scaring cats to death. | Apr 03 15:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: remember working with cattle dog does have to be strong sometimes cattle get the idea of stomping the dog into the ground. | Apr 03 15:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada⇒ Makes you wonder who profits from Northern Gateway pipeline most Canadians don't want... http://www.ur1.ca/8wa2a !CDNpoli | Apr 03 15:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | I had an australian shepherd / beagle mix for a long time | Apr 03 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | she lived to be 16 years old | Apr 03 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, What I don't get are people who want on of those annoying hyper little dogs that nip at you and shit all over the house | Apr 03 15:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tiger Flower Circle Sun remix favorites by Christopher @Willits announced: http://bit.ly/H5Utgz & avail at http://bit.ly/HvqDoE #CC BY-NC-SA | Apr 03 15:16 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that is an name that annoys us. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Shepherd | Apr 03 15:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @frankejames Tell @JoeOliver1 this is wrong: Gateway hearing cancelled after…protesters greet panel http://www.ur1.ca/8wa48 !cdnpoli #ngp | Apr 03 15:18 | |
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| oiaohm | Fun part is Australian Cattle dogs they start life white and change color as they age to quite a few different colors. | Apr 03 15:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LF video: How Linux is built http://ur1.ca/8wa59 | Apr 03 15:19 | |
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| oiaohm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVpbFMhOAwE Interesting video. | Apr 03 15:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Guillaume de Machaut: Complete Recordings on #Spotify - http://bit.ly/H68XwZ fab; one of my favourite composers | Apr 03 15:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is !RedHat At A Tipping Point? For enterprise switching is an easy decision to make http://ping.fm/0e4rx | Apr 03 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My artist sister is on Etsy ♺ @LianaRusswurm Ohhhhh Canada..... http://www.ur1.ca/8wa6h !Canada #art | Apr 03 15:24 | |
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| anouar | nedd Cvv | Apr 03 15:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1485616 | Apr 03 15:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Apr 03 15:26 |
| schestowitz | "despite all the problems of government, corrupt privatization is far far worse. it's the concentration of wealth in private hands that dictates much of the inefficiency in government. ie single payer healthcare is far more efficient than the mess that we have, military contractors pilfer the public treasury unabated, etc etc etc. Sad to see you promoting this Ayn Randian-Fox News-Limbaugh paradigm. Nationalize the Fed! " | Apr 03 15:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 400 Accenture employees who were working on Symbian are leaving the company - IntoMobile http://ping.fm/PEtiu | Apr 03 15:26 | |
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| schestowitz | anouar: who's Nedd? :-) | Apr 03 15:26 |
| schestowitz | Nedd the Fed? | Apr 03 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | Needle Nosed Ned | Apr 03 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | Ned The Head | Apr 03 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | (Groundhog Day) | Apr 03 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Flanders? | Apr 03 15:28 |
| schestowitz | Flanders' CVv | Apr 03 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkW_ZkMtmlQ | Apr 03 15:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mohanpram 6 Great Alternative Browsers for Your Android Device http://bit.ly/HcOSJJ | Apr 03 15:29 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: good acting | Apr 03 15:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: viral ,marketing for b0ng? | Apr 03 15:30 |
| DaemonFC | the search engine didn't exist in 1992 | Apr 03 15:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Oracle v. !Google - Both Parties Take Exception to Kearl Expert Report http://ping.fm/WB8Fz | Apr 03 15:31 | |
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| schestowitz | I kno | Apr 03 15:31 |
| schestowitz | MS hijacked what was already marketed as a term | Apr 03 15:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: do be correct MS has had a search engine for a long time they keep on renaming it. | Apr 03 15:32 |
| schestowitz | now when people play Bing Crosby song MS can claim it as its own | Apr 03 15:32 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: no rename in 3 years... must be a new record | Apr 03 15:32 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: they rename about once every 4. | Apr 03 15:33 |
| oiaohm | so not a record yet. | Apr 03 15:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Amazon Frustrates With 'Suspension' Of Kindle Newspaper Additions http://ping.fm/BegBT | Apr 03 15:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VF5P7qLaEQ&feature=fvwrel | Apr 03 15:34 |
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| MinceR | "if knowledge is power, then a god am i!" ... "was that over the top? i can never tell!" | Apr 03 15:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I no longer know whether to tag Kindle stories as !Android related. I keep vacillating | Apr 03 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @minimacademica RT @creativecommons: Polish gov't funds creation of open textbooks under !CC BY - @ccpolska reports: http://bit.ly/HT ... | Apr 03 15:38 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: maybe they'll rename to "Yahoo!" | Apr 03 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The Riddler? | Apr 03 15:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 03 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OEIYdcUu18&feature=related | Apr 03 15:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Digital Music Now Pays Artists More Than Pubs - http://bit.ly/HkRnTs time to accentuate the positive | Apr 03 15:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | one of my favorite movies | Apr 03 15:47 |
| schestowitz | you were a kid when it was in the cinemas | Apr 03 15:49 |
| schestowitz | and it wasn't for your age group, either | Apr 03 15:50 |
| schestowitz | Murray is not grandpa age | Apr 03 15:50 |
| schestowitz | like Ed O"Neil | Apr 03 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Apr 03 15:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0335266/ | Apr 03 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | Bundy Bundy Bundy! | Apr 03 15:51 |
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| schestowitz | good film | Apr 03 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spIrhYfwi5c | Apr 03 15:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Motorola exige 4 mil milhões de dólares à Microsoft num caso de patentes- Jornal de negócios http://goo.gl/fj72E #patents pagar o android! | Apr 03 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How reddit is not so quietly dominating the Internet (Includes interview) - http://ur1.ca/5cejw http://ping.fm/BTi11 | Apr 03 15:53 | |
| schestowitz | the traqiler is in that page | Apr 03 15:53 |
| schestowitz | brings back memories | Apr 03 15:53 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-1IBO_clrE&feature=watch_response | Apr 03 15:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] OSADL on realtime Linux determinism http://ur1.ca/8wajo | Apr 03 16:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou is not attending Robot Block Party. | Apr 03 16:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @nightrose interested in updates on !Wikidata? Follow @wikidata, our shiny new project account | Apr 03 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan "How To Design a Successful Interview Process" http://ur1.ca/8waac Great article! #hiring #startup | Apr 03 16:11 | |
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| schestowitz | lol on insurance | Apr 03 16:12 |
| schestowitz | "insurance is like marriage" | Apr 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | "you just pay, pay, pay.. nevr get anything back" | Apr 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | *never | Apr 03 16:13 |
| schestowitz | I guess that's why they make insurance obligatory :-) good for private companies supported by government moles | Apr 03 16:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Every step you take, every move you make: The British government's new plans for mass surveillance http://goo.gl/Vm8zE #uk #policestate | Apr 03 16:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] BBC: Pastebin to Police Hacker-Posts http://ping.fm/9P1Q8 | Apr 03 16:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Boris Johnson in foul-mouthed rant at Ken Livingstone over tax claims http://gu.com/p/36jbq | Apr 03 16:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The story behind those billboards featuring ex-Oracle president Charles E. Phillips (Gawker): http://gaw.kr/HUxx5N | Apr 03 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JamesMurdoch to step down as #BSkyB chairman http://gu.com/p/36jbh | Apr 03 16:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rumours of a new found #LibDem backbone were exaggerated, as #NickClegg claims #scaremongering over #PoliceState laws http://goo.gl/80uIH | Apr 03 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Freue mich auf den Netzpolitischen Abend heute in Berlin! http://ur1.ca/8wasx See you there | Apr 03 16:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] George Galloway: Why I won't condemn attacks on #UK soldiers in #Afghanistan - YouTube http://goo.gl/xlhYO #wars | Apr 03 16:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] once upon a time there were #Tories & #LibDems seeking votes, they said they'd reverse #Labour's #PoliceState bill - then came an election | Apr 03 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stop UK Government Snooping - http://bit.ly/HhF9jj epetition has already reached 36K signatures in a few hours: please support & RT #CCDP | Apr 03 16:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Evidence That Human Ancestors Used Fire One Million Years Ago http://identi.ca/url/68622070 !science | Apr 03 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] those #Tories & #LibDems were thrilled to have new expense accounts & decided a #PoliceState was a good thing after all | Apr 03 16:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ex-Union of Democratic Mineworkers leader Neil Greatrex guilty of theft http://goo.gl/MniZF gotta love the rich & entitled huh? | Apr 03 16:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Motorola Mobility's #patent lawsuits investigated by EU http://goo.gl/U9hLZ complaints by two patent bullies #Apple & #Microsoft | Apr 03 16:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I see the #BBC still publish #Microsoft toadies as "independent" from @fosspatents on stories where his employers are the attackers | Apr 03 16:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Stop UK Government Snooping - http://bit.ly/HhF9jj epetition has already reached 36K signatures in a few hours: please sup ... | Apr 03 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] How to use fancy gestures on the iPad -- and why you should (GigaOm): http://bit.ly/HbEDDK | Apr 03 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] kościelne "rodzina jest świętością" jest gorsze od stalinowskiej definicji "wroga klasowego" bit.ly/HOlKCr - świetny wywiad! | Apr 03 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] IBM releases DB2 version 10, the first big upgrade in four years - (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/Ha7WaK | Apr 03 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] μετα απο ενα ποστ του @menacius νομιζω χθες θυμηθηκα και 'ξαναντύθηκα' μ'αυτο http://ur1.ca/8wayd. #nostalgia | Apr 03 16:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Guide to the 9/11 #Whistleblowers | The Corbett Report http://goo.gl/V03AM #911 #falseflag - no one spilling the beans? yeah right! | Apr 03 16:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Documents show cops making up the rules on mobile surveillance http://goo.gl/22T1J | Apr 03 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Learning to Code? Codecademy Adds Beginner Languages HTML and CSS (Mashable): http://on.mash.to/HV2tzY | Apr 03 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !CDNpoli ⇒DRM = TPM ♺ @MargaretAtwood: Cory Doctorow on the dark side of DRM: http://www.ur1.ca/8wazq !copyright Bill !C11 | Apr 03 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Arizona Internet #Censorship Bill So Ridiculous, Even The #MPAA And #RIAA Are Against It http://goo.gl/jvjgm | Apr 03 16:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] OpenStack versus Amazon: Citrix ditches OpenStack for Apache (Network World): http://bit.ly/HO5Pbn | Apr 03 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New York City Cooks Up Annoying Plan That Will Pressure #NYC Businesses To Buy .nyc Domains They Don't Want Or Need http://goo.gl/WZzaN | Apr 03 16:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Drunken cop car serenade back on #YouTube after copyright claim http://goo.gl/kK1oP | Apr 03 16:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I just took a bike ride up to ALDI | Apr 03 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | nice day out, no reason to burn gas | Apr 03 17:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Science Projects on RocketHub" http://ur1.ca/8wb47 #crowdfunding #science #funding | Apr 03 17:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. Lazyweb. Please help. A taxi from Paddington to the British museum in London at 11 pm - how much will it cost? Jus... http://b1t.it/bgHQ | Apr 03 17:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | the good news is that I've accumulated so many dry groceries that don't go bad very fast that my grocery bill for the next two months is only going to be things like milk, bread, eggs, cheese... | Apr 03 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | so I really think I can cap my groceries at under $40 until I've gone through some of the dry goods I've accumulated | Apr 03 17:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Jorge Moreira da Silva http://goo.gl/5oTij #psd #aventais #agw | Apr 03 17:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | if there's something good to come out of this hole I've dug for myself, it's that it has forced me to take a look through every line of my budget and see where I was overpaying | Apr 03 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | I've managed to eliminate about $70 a month in unnecessary items, which for now goes to the credit card people, but when this is over with and behind me, it means I will have more spending money (or to save) each month than I had before | Apr 03 17:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] are the #LibDems trying to become as unelectable as the #Tories to regular folks? #PoliceState | Apr 03 17:13 | |
| DaemonFC | I've eliminated soda out of my budget completely | Apr 03 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | I switched Jabba over to ALDI's cat food | Apr 03 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | I negotiated a better deal with DirecTV to get $10 a month off for the next 6 months and to move into a different TV package that still has all the channels I watch and is $15 a month cheaper | Apr 03 17:15 |
| schestowitz | does Jabba know why? | Apr 03 17:15 |
| schestowitz | Did he consent to buyiing a TV? | Apr 03 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | I started going to ALDI instead of Walmart or Kroger | Apr 03 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | and Dollar Tree to buy my personal items, cleaning supplies, etc | Apr 03 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | well, it wasn't any one thing that was killing my budget, it was literally $10 here and $5 there and so on | Apr 03 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | and I just never had any pressure on me to go through line by line, and fix that stuff | Apr 03 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: He likes the TV | Apr 03 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | I leave it on the nature channels for him when I go to bed | Apr 03 17:16 |
| schestowitz | what's it on? Mice? | Apr 03 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | well, there's several shows about cats | Apr 03 17:17 |
| schestowitz | [17:09] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I just took a bike ride up to ALDI | Apr 03 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Wish I could too | Apr 03 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | big cats, wild cats, domesticated house cats | Apr 03 17:17 |
| schestowitz | it's sunny outside, must stay near phone though | Apr 03 17:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Russian mafia, organized crime and corruption. http://goo.gl/Y9XLz #russia | Apr 03 17:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think the advertisers are speculating that the cats have more money now than their owners do | Apr 03 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | My new budget ends up looking pretty much like this. Pay $100 on the first payday of the month. Wait until the due dates, make double the minimum payments on due dates, at the end of the month, pay another $100, repeat until the debt is gone | Apr 03 17:20 |
| schestowitz | should never have borrowed in the first place | Apr 03 17:21 |
| schestowitz | living within one's means | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | it's going to take pretty much everything I can spare and if nothing horrible happens, I should have them paid in full by the end of June | Apr 03 17:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft counted as key #Linux contributor, for now anyway (Network World): http://bit.ly/Hdr1FL | Apr 03 17:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's like I said. | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Mistakes | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | learning from them | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | not repeating them | Apr 03 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I could dick around and live comfortably and pay them back over 6 months, 8 months, a year, more than a year | Apr 03 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | the main reason I want to do it quickly is to teach myself a lesson | Apr 03 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | at the end of the 90 days of hell, when I have some money coming in again that I get to keep..... | Apr 03 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'll hang onto it :) | Apr 03 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Self-punishment I guess | Apr 03 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | when I look back at the 3 months that just went by, and think "The fucking bastards even took my soda!" | Apr 03 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | you know | Apr 03 17:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] #Osmocom User Group Berlin inaugural meeting on April 11, 7pm at CCCB: http://ur1.ca/8wba4 | Apr 03 17:24 | |
| DaemonFC | might deter me from doing this in the future | Apr 03 17:24 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Sometimes the only one that can correct your behavior is yourself | Apr 03 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | being in debt and paying it back at outrageous interest isn't something that society actively discourages | Apr 03 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] World's Largest Solar Plant, With 2nd Largest Ever Department of Energy Loan Guarantee, Files For Bankruptcy http://goo.gl/5NbIQ #usa #agw | Apr 03 17:26 | |
| DaemonFC | or else it would be made much more difficult to do | Apr 03 17:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: World's Largest Solar Plant, With Second Largest Ever Department of Energy Loan Guarantee, Files For Bankruptcy | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 191.68 KB | Apr 03 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The reason credit card companies rarely sue over the kind of debt I'm in is because they don't consider it to be much of a loss | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | they have almost no overhead | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | they charge huge amounts of interest | Apr 03 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | more than half their customers can default and they still make a lot of money | Apr 03 17:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Now available: The Digital Public Domain: Foundations for an Open Culture - http://goo.gl/p63Ww #CCBY | Apr 03 17:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | the threat of bad credit will compel most people that can pay them back, even slowly and with lots of interest, to do so | Apr 03 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why I did it. I wish I never did. It's done. I have to clean up my mess. | Apr 03 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | I've never even had a credit card until last year. | Apr 03 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | used to be that if I wanted something I couldn't afford, I'd let it pile up in my bank account until I could just pay for it outright | Apr 03 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | I've never been in any kind of non-medical debt to anyone until lately | Apr 03 17:30 |
| schestowitz | I like how you say :"non-medical" | Apr 03 17:30 |
| schestowitz | you ignore hte biggest debt | Apr 03 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | well, in the US, for most people.... | Apr 03 17:30 |
| schestowitz | and then make it seem like it's invalid | Apr 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | not sure | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | unpaid medical debt is a fact of life because the government won't intervene to stop the price gouging | Apr 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | what I know is that it causes many bankruptcies | Apr 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | not sure if most debt though | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | I do consider it an invalid debt | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reason why anyone should be uninsured | Apr 03 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. High Court to hear Hougang by-election case! People of Singapore 1, PAP 0 http://ur1.ca/8wbbd #fb #in | Apr 03 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cruise holidays are the new #Adventure holidays judging by the recent spate of ship issues needing rescued at sea | Apr 03 17:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | except for greed | Apr 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | hey, they drive you to ER | Apr 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | $3000 | Apr 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | what price gouging? | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | same reason everything medical costs 10 times more than it should | Apr 03 17:31 |
| schestowitz | Hey, they'll settle for $2000 | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Apr 03 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | fuck that | Apr 03 17:32 |
| schestowitz | It's a very nice limo, an ambulance | Apr 03 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | you know what happens if you do that? | Apr 03 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | do you know what happens if you have $10,000 in medical debt and settle for $2,000? | Apr 03 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | DO YOU REALLY? | Apr 03 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's a BAD IDEA | Apr 03 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | BAD | Apr 03 17:32 |
| schestowitz | they know you have money | Apr 03 17:32 |
| schestowitz | or bad credit | Apr 03 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | and it may not seem like it right off | Apr 03 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | as soon as you agree to that, first of all, it does NOTHING to help your credit | Apr 03 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | nothing at all | Apr 03 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | they've already damaged your credit and it's not going to come back up for years | Apr 03 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | but it gets worse | Apr 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | what's a credit for? | Apr 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Like, if you buy a house? | Apr 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | who has access to it? | Apr 03 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | the federal and state government both consider that settlement $8,000 of taxable income | Apr 03 17:33 |
| schestowitz | For the common folks in the US? | Apr 03 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | paid TO YOU | Apr 03 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | so all of a sudden, you go from owing the hospital money, which is bad | Apr 03 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | to owing the hospital money, and owing the government hundreds of dollars | Apr 03 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | and there's no way to clear tax debt | Apr 03 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | bankruptcy won't do it | Apr 03 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | if you continue not paying them long enough, you go to prison | Apr 03 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | that would never happen just because you owed the hospital money | Apr 03 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | and tax debt also hurts your credit | Apr 03 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | so you will get 3 lumps on your credit, a tax bill, and jail if you don't pay your taxes | Apr 03 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | so debt settlement is a trap | Apr 03 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | it turns a bad situation into a total nightmare | Apr 03 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | and if you can't pay the debt collector, you probably can't pay the IRS and state 30% of the "forgiven debt" | Apr 03 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | and then your ass is grass | Apr 03 17:36 |
| schestowitz | it's a way for anoher company, a thirrd (or more) party to gouge you more | Apr 03 17:36 |
| schestowitz | for perceived convenience | Apr 03 17:36 |
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| schestowitz | debt repackaging | Apr 03 17:36 |
| schestowitz | it's like putting a stinkin' pile in another bowl... consolidation | Apr 03 17:37 |
| schestowitz | and you know what the solid in "consolidation" means | Apr 03 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It sounds good when you can settle a debt for 20% of what you owed them | Apr 03 17:37 |
| schestowitz | it's a load of **** | Apr 03 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | until you find out the catches | Apr 03 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | it triples the damage they already did to your credit | Apr 03 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | and leaves you with a gigantic tax bill and threat of jail time | Apr 03 17:37 |
| schestowitz | for not working? | Apr 03 17:38 |
| schestowitz | or selling stuff? | Apr 03 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | they don't CARE how you pay them back | Apr 03 17:38 |
| schestowitz | how can people be put in jail for being unable to work? | Apr 03 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | you owe them money | Apr 03 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | you work it out or go to prison | Apr 03 17:38 |
| schestowitz | prostitution. | Apr 03 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | that's how the IRS operates | Apr 03 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | you can never have a bill collector as bad as the IRS | Apr 03 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | NEVER | Apr 03 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | if you're going to owe the IRS money because you settled a debt with a bill collector, then don't settle the debt | Apr 03 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | and since settling a debt will always leave you owing taxes instead, don't EVER settle a debt | Apr 03 17:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Why Free Culture could be Good for the Games Business http://ur1.ca/8wbdn | Apr 03 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Udev and systemd to merge http://ur1.ca/8wbdy | Apr 03 17:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The worst thing that a private bill collector could do is go to court and get an order to garnish your wages until they're paid back | Apr 03 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | credit card companies almost never do that | Apr 03 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | I've had thousands of dollars in medical bills where htye haven't doen that | Apr 03 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | *done | Apr 03 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | once one of them moves in to get a judgment on you, immediately file bankruptcy | Apr 03 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | while the bankruptcy proceeding is in the process, the court will issue an order that puts a hold on anyone that is garnishing your wages or is about to | Apr 03 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Bill collectors almost always get what they want | Apr 03 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | because most people don't know their rights | Apr 03 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | don't know how to fight back | Apr 03 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | and many of them will allow themselves to be cowed into a corner if the bill collector is hateful or harasses them enough | Apr 03 17:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Three drafts published by the CSS Working Group http://ow.ly/1ixGh9 | Apr 03 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Last Call: Cross-Origin Resource Sharing http://ow.ly/1ixGh8 | Apr 03 17:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Note: Requirements for Japanese Text Layout Updated http://ow.ly/1ixGha | Apr 03 17:43 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they are specialising in it | Apr 03 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | even if you're not a lawyer, you can file bankruptcy and get a hold on the judgments until you can find a lawyer | Apr 03 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | usually the process is so slow that you have a few months to find a bankruptcy lawyer | Apr 03 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | until then, just tell the court you're representing yourself | Apr 03 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | you can change that later | Apr 03 17:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Ziemlich dreist. EC Automat der Sparkasse Erding-Dorfen verlangt €4,50 für Abhebung am Flughafen München. | Apr 03 17:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | the bankruptcy courts are so backed up lately that they might take 6 months or more to hear your case | Apr 03 17:45 |
| schestowitz | you know the system is rigged when people make money from your case | Apr 03 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | that's 6 months where you don't have bill collectors garnishing your wages or harassing you or breathing down your neck | Apr 03 17:45 |
| schestowitz | not just the plaintiff | Apr 03 17:45 |
| schestowitz | you need to "hire a lawyer" | Apr 03 17:46 |
| schestowitz | lawyr vs lawyer | Apr 03 17:46 |
| schestowitz | both sides get paid | Apr 03 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Technically you can represent yourself in bankruptcy court | Apr 03 17:46 |
| schestowitz | and another lawyer (a judge) chooses a winning tea, | Apr 03 17:46 |
| schestowitz | you pay the judge, too | Apr 03 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | but you better get familiar with about 30,000 pages or so of the bankruptcy code | Apr 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | plus other taxes for the stage | Apr 03 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | or at least the several thousand most pertinant to your case | Apr 03 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | which most people can't do | Apr 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | and the crew hours | Apr 03 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | there's lots of complex legal maneuvers and strategies and loopholes that nobody but a lawyer would know | Apr 03 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | so if you represent yourself in court, the other side is going to walk all over you | Apr 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | so ban proxies | Apr 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | on both sides | Apr 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | one has to speak for one's own | Apr 03 17:49 |
| schestowitz | and not consult others much, either | Apr 03 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | the only time you should represent yourself in court is if it's an infraction | Apr 03 17:49 |
| schestowitz | but law-makers are lawyers | Apr 03 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | infractions carry fines of $50-$2500 | Apr 03 17:49 |
| schestowitz | so don't expect the status quo to chang | Apr 03 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | and so even if you lose, you're still not paying as much as a lawyer would have charged you | Apr 03 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | most competent lawyers want $300 an hour or more | Apr 03 17:50 |
| schestowitz | tell the to *** *** | Apr 03 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | and they bill people for more hours than they actually spend on their case | Apr 03 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much all of them do that | Apr 03 17:50 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 03 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | if you go over a lawyers billable hours he's working 60-80 horus a day | Apr 03 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | *hours | Apr 03 17:50 |
| schestowitz | I bill based on hours I actually do | Apr 03 17:50 |
| schestowitz | to enter the ripoff club you need to pay a lot for a law degree from some school like Harvard | Apr 03 17:51 |
| schestowitz | and then you hack the system | Apr 03 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | they figure nobody would really be able to claim otherwise and even if they could, what will they do? | Apr 03 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | Hire a lawyer to sue the lawyer? | Apr 03 17:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Typeface? Impossible! bit.ly/HbMEbK | Apr 03 17:51 | |
| schestowitz | it's like claling the police to complain about a policeman | Apr 03 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Apr 03 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | then you get singled out for special harassme....I mean, treatment | Apr 03 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | yes, treatment | Apr 03 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 17:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] At #lfcollab a few meters from @bkuhn | Apr 03 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Imad #Sousou now speaking at #lfcollab | Apr 03 17:53 | |
| schestowitz | clubbin? | Apr 03 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I bought a bike and put an electric motor on it a few years ago | Apr 03 17:53 |
| schestowitz | what for? | Apr 03 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | I never rode it all that much but gas costs double now what it did then | Apr 03 17:53 |
| schestowitz | use your body, that's what it's for | Apr 03 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Apr 03 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | my body will not move that bike at 25 miles an hour | Apr 03 17:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: get a cargo-friendly bike | Apr 03 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz I did | Apr 03 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | I bought some bungie cords and tied down a really big milk crate to the back end of it | Apr 03 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's a large platform that holds the batteries, so I tied the crate to that | Apr 03 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: So far this year I've only burned about 7-8 gallons of gas | Apr 03 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | the only time I take the car anywhere is if I need to get there quickly or if it's out of range of the bike | Apr 03 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | right now it would cost about $65 to fill up my car's gas tank from Empty to Full | Apr 03 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | when the car was brand new? | Apr 03 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | gas was about 90 cents a gallon | Apr 03 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | maybe $1 in some places | Apr 03 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | nobody worried about gas mileage | Apr 03 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | on a bad day, $16 would have filled up the same tank | Apr 03 17:58 |
| cubezzz | it's mad max all over again :) | Apr 03 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, we're about there | Apr 03 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | DaemonFC is "The Road Warrior!" | Apr 03 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | he took a '95 Taurus SHO and put some fucking deathy stuff on it | Apr 03 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | and spikes and shit | Apr 03 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | and goes out killing people for gas! | Apr 03 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I only really need that car when the weather is bad | Apr 03 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | or when I'm hauling too much for the bike to carry | Apr 03 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | or when I'm going more than 20 miles or so | Apr 03 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | or when I need to get somewhere fast | Apr 03 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | so lately I've been burning a gallon or two a month | Apr 03 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | on average | Apr 03 18:01 |
| schestowitz | [17:57] <DaemonFC> right now it would cost about $65 to fill up my car's gas tank from Empty to Full | Apr 03 18:01 |
| schestowitz | How about home heating? | Apr 03 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | there's no reason to be paying $4.06 to get 20 miles | Apr 03 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | when 4 cents of electricity would do the same thing | Apr 03 18:01 |
| schestowitz | [17:59] <DaemonFC> and goes out killing people for gas!] | Apr 03 18:02 |
| schestowitz | tdoay I saw a video like this from Egypt | Apr 03 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Electricity is still cheap | Apr 03 18:02 |
| schestowitz | watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUyzsOT7Ca8&feature=digest_mon | Apr 03 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | this is new | Apr 03 18:03 |
| schestowitz | very interesting | Apr 03 18:03 |
| schestowitz | Watch how they fight over petrol | Apr 03 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | the cost per kilowatt hour in Indiana is roughly 10 cents right now | Apr 03 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | but if you use more than 1,000 that month the rate is 8.5 cents per | Apr 03 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | and if you use more than 2,000, the rate is 7 cents per | Apr 03 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | they do that so that large businesses that use the most electricity get the lowest bills | Apr 03 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Debian Project News - April 2nd, 2012 http://goo.gl/kkJJX | Apr 03 18:04 | |
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| schestowitz | maybe cause gas is a luxury to some | Apr 03 18:05 |
| schestowitz | unless you drive a cab | Apr 03 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Landlord was bitching about the electric bill so I told him to get rid of the three accounts and three meters for the apartments here | Apr 03 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | and replace it with one meter, one account | Apr 03 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | for the whole building | Apr 03 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | and his electric bill immediately went down by 25% | Apr 03 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't know why he didn't think of that | Apr 03 18:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] No Growth in a Growing Market http://ur1.ca/8wbm5 #gnu #linux | Apr 03 18:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | he's the business type person that's looking for every way to squeeze the most out of an investment | Apr 03 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 18:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah | Apr 03 18:07 |
| schestowitz | same here | Apr 03 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | and here I am telling him how to cut his bills | Apr 03 18:07 |
| schestowitz | I am quite happy with my bills... no ripoff really | Apr 03 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Some states are a little less | Apr 03 18:07 |
| schestowitz | even with my computers switched on all the time and at least a shower/bath per day | Apr 03 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | Texas starts you out at 8 cents per kilowatt hour | Apr 03 18:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's necessity | Apr 03 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | some states are gouging people | Apr 03 18:07 |
| schestowitz | people are up in arms when food is too expensive | Apr 03 18:07 |
| schestowitz | even basic food | Apr 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | like bread | Apr 03 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | Massachusetts invented a carbon tax scam | Apr 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | or when they canno heat the house | Apr 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | and shake for hours | Apr 03 18:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why is the Green Party's Jill Stein Running to be President? http://ur1.ca/8wbmz #us | Apr 03 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #Sousou talks about #Yocto; @bkuhn looks on approvingly. #lfcollab | Apr 03 18:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | and now people there are paying 36 cents per kilowatt hour | Apr 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | "as mad as hell" | Apr 03 18:08 |
| cubezzz | historical prices of food are interesting | Apr 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | which foods though? | Apr 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | commodity? | Apr 03 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: carbon taxes are passing because it's a regressive tax on the poor | Apr 03 18:08 |
| cubezzz | food prices started to go up more sharply in the 70's | Apr 03 18:08 |
| schestowitz | corn/wheat? | Apr 03 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | rich people will still be rich even if their electric bill triples | Apr 03 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | poor people are just going to have to do without | Apr 03 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | they're not concerned about the carbon problem, they made it up | Apr 03 18:09 |
| cubezzz | basic stuff like milk, bread, sugar, etc | Apr 03 18:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: they didn't | Apr 03 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | they made it up so that they can take more from "you" and give it to "them" | Apr 03 18:09 |
| schestowitz | the solution might be dubious | Apr 03 18:09 |
| schestowitz | but the problem is real | Apr 03 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | there's no such thing as a hardship exception to that tax | Apr 03 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | so it is excruciatingly regressive | Apr 03 18:11 |
| cubezzz | I'm not at all surprised by what is happening with food prices | Apr 03 18:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] [Dicas-L] O que voce baixou? http://goo.gl/wqbSf - "so what did you download?" - #funny but true! #mafiaa | Apr 03 18:11 | |
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| cubezzz | 7 billion people on the planet, and the amount of fertile farm land isn't increasing | Apr 03 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | there was some cunt in line at ALDI that was bitching and nagging about everything at the top of her voice | Apr 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | including that | Apr 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | I turned around and told her "Shut the fuck up!" | Apr 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 18:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's normal | Apr 03 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "welcome to Aldi" | Apr 03 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | she did | Apr 03 18:12 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Apr 03 18:12 |
| schestowitz | good stuff | Apr 03 18:12 |
| cubezzz | you should work there DaemonFC :) | Apr 03 18:13 |
| schestowitz | going arounf telling peoplt to "shut the fuck up" | Apr 03 18:13 |
| schestowitz | ,methinks it'll put off customers | Apr 03 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, probably | Apr 03 18:13 |
| schestowitz | in the long run | Apr 03 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | the work wouldn't bother me at all | Apr 03 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | the customers would | Apr 03 18:13 |
| schestowitz | they pay better than some chains | Apr 03 18:13 |
| schestowitz | but they work like robots there | Apr 03 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | but that's similar to when I worked at Walmart | Apr 03 18:14 |
| schestowitz | it's like a scall centre where you have to face people and move stuff around | Apr 03 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | hard work doesn't bother me | Apr 03 18:14 |
| schestowitz | hard people.. | Apr 03 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's people that come up and start talking shit to you because they know you can't do anything about it | Apr 03 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | and if you do, you lose your job | Apr 03 18:14 |
| schestowitz | yeah, heard this.. | Apr 03 18:14 |
| schestowitz | salespeople get badly treated | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | and threatened too | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | yep | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | the suits hide in the office | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | worst part about the job | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | while the abuse they invite goes out on slae people | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | stocking shelves is easy | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | they scam the customers | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | running a cash register is simple | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | fine prints and all | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | guess who take the abuse and must shut up? | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | dealing with these fucking pricks day in and day out? | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | worst part of the job | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | see Al Bundy | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | do what he does | Apr 03 18:15 |
| cubezzz | working with the public isn't always fun | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Apr 03 18:15 |
| schestowitz | do clever lines | Apr 03 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | that's why I like Married With Children so much | Apr 03 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "I only have half a tank of gas" | Apr 03 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | "How DARE you say that to my face!" | Apr 03 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | "Well lady, I'd say it behind your back but my car's only got half a tank of gas!" | Apr 03 18:16 |
| schestowitz | I'd say uit behind your back | Apr 03 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Android finally gets an Instagram app (PCWorld): http://bit.ly/HdPvmG | Apr 03 18:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft releases System Center 2012 (http://ur1.ca/8wbp8) and SQL Server 2012 (http://bit.ly/HVe44S) | Apr 03 18:16 | |
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| schestowitz | hehe | Apr 03 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | "We're going some place where they treat us with RESPECT!" | Apr 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Try the moon, you'll weight less there" | Apr 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | *weigh | Apr 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | my dad loved the show for the same reason | Apr 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | "Could it be that you came here to apologize?" | Apr 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | customers who are pricks | Apr 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | "No. Could it be that the nails holding your chair together are from the planet Krypton!?" | Apr 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | Bundy Bundy Bundy!!! | Apr 03 18:18 |
| schestowitz | Polk High! | Apr 03 18:18 |
| schestowitz | "Peg, guess what happaned at work today?" | Apr 03 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: There was some woman in Michigan that formed a "protest group" that tried to get that taken off the air by complaining to the FCC | Apr 03 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | they did end up self-censoring a couple episodes at first but when the FCC said they weren't going to do anything, they showed the full episodes later on | Apr 03 18:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian Project News - April 2nd, 2012 http://ur1.ca/8wbq8 #debian #gnu #linux | Apr 03 18:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] +Fabian Scherschel you in London in the next few days? | Apr 03 18:19 | |
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| DaemonFC | and the uncensored versions are also on the DVDs | Apr 03 18:19 |
| schestowitz | militant feminist? | Apr 03 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Apr 03 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | they ended up referring to her in the show | Apr 03 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | calling her "some woman in Michigan" | Apr 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | that's who they were talking about though | Apr 03 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Mint vs. Ubuntu: the Best Option? http://ur1.ca/8wbqx #ubuntu #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Apr 03 18:21 | |
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| formic_ | http://www.brianbondy.com/blog/id/135/ | Apr 03 18:21 |
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| formic_ | lame | Apr 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | her attempts at getting the show taken off the air caused a spike in interest | Apr 03 18:21 |
| formic_ | firefox catering to winblows | Apr 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | and the next season had double the ratings | Apr 03 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | which led to it being renewed for several more years | Apr 03 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | the producers sent the woman a thank you cake | Apr 03 18:22 |
| schestowitz | LOL cake | Apr 03 18:23 |
| schestowitz | did she sue them? | Apr 03 18:23 |
| schestowitz | "Are you trying to say I'm a cake?" | Apr 03 18:23 |
| schestowitz | sounds like they are trying to "kill her with kindness" | Apr 03 18:24 |
| schestowitz | [and excess calories] | Apr 03 18:24 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who Uses Ubuntu Linux, and Why? Survey Offers New Insight. http://ur1.ca/8wbsd #ubuntu | Apr 03 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] No Free Lunch for Intel MIC (or GPU’s) (Nvidia): http://bit.ly/HiirHQ | Apr 03 18:26 | |
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| schestowitz | hi sebsebseb | Apr 03 18:26 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hi | Apr 03 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I don't abuse the utilities even though the landlord pays them | Apr 03 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | if I'm not using something, it's usually off | Apr 03 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bauchtasche, die (subst.) Erkennungsmerkmal des männlichen Neids auf Handtasche der Frau. Typischerweise von sog. ->E... http://b1t.it/bgKC | Apr 03 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the opposition party position should be renamed the opportunism party position, it's all they do, regardless of who's there #politics | Apr 03 18:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Bauchtasche, die (subst.) Erkennungsmerkmal des männlichen… .::. Size~: 83.28 KB | Apr 03 18:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] currently the official party in opportunism is #Labour | Apr 03 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu's HUD: Light-years beyond any menu system http://ur1.ca/8wbsy #ubuntu #gnu #linux #hud | Apr 03 18:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when the coalition falls apart and the #LibDems get the blame for fucking us over, the official party of opportunism will be the #Tories | Apr 03 18:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu's HUD: Light-years beyond any menu system | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 150.41 KB | Apr 03 18:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat donates $100,000 to "the future of open source" http://ur1.ca/8w0lc #redhat | Apr 03 18:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat donates $100,000 to "the future of open source" - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.73 KB | Apr 03 18:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Ah, right. But that makes it much harder to change the license as a group. | Apr 03 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS Beta 2 Screenshots Gallery http://ur1.ca/8wbud #kde #kubuntu | Apr 03 18:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Dude, where's my food truck? Mapping businesses that move (Ars): http://bit.ly/HdhDGj | Apr 03 18:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS Beta 2 Screenshots Gallery .::. Size~: 82.52 KB | Apr 03 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dude, where's my food truck? Mapping businesses that move .::. Size~: 38.4 KB | Apr 03 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Could it be a problem with your API key? | Apr 03 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 18 Will Go For Tmpfs http://ur1.ca/8wbut and #ubuntu will 'innovate' it by integration... | Apr 03 18:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Fedora 18 Will Go For Tmpfs .::. Size~: 16.74 KB | Apr 03 18:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity, GNOME3, #Vista8 and… jumping rats http://ur1.ca/8wbvf #gnome #unity | Apr 03 18:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unity, GNOME3, Windows 8 and… jumping rats - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 119.39 KB | Apr 03 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | I think both Unity 5.8 and GNOME 3.4 have both improved much | Apr 03 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | calling for their heads when most people haven't seen them in the upcoming distribution releases is not right | Apr 03 18:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ahoy Mandriva! Are you still out there? http://ur1.ca/8wbx3 "situation is far more better since yesterday, the main problem is cleared" | Apr 03 18:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: iTWire - Ahoy Mandriva! Are you still out there? .::. Size~: 49.14 KB | Apr 03 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Pretending you're being personally attacked by a tricky bug in the software. | Apr 03 18:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @jjmerelo Google play won't let me know if its a retoast | Apr 03 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/8wc05 | Apr 03 18:49 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tuesday's security updates [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.72 KB | Apr 03 18:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @evan being personally attacked by imaginary bugs? that reminds me, I've not seen #AScannerDarkly for a while, must fix that "bug" :D | Apr 03 18:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] apachewashing proprietary software http://ur1.ca/8wc2f | Apr 03 18:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Google pulls a Groupon. Is that called Goopon or Grougle? http://ur1.ca/8wc2r | Apr 03 18:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Citrix submits cloud-building software to Apache Foundation .::. Size~: 33.25 KB | Apr 03 18:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Danny Sullivan - Google+ - Like coffee? Google's got a deal for you tomorrow :) .::. Size~: 91.61 KB | Apr 03 18:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Call SF Supes Wiener (415) 554-6968 & Cohen at (415) 554-7670 & ask them to vote for the Safe San Francisco Civil Rights Ordinance today. | Apr 03 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] being personally attacked by imaginary bugs http://goo.gl/ULZO7 #AScannerDarkly stylee | Apr 03 19:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Apr 03 19:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] (re)ELECT GOLDMAN SACHS! http://ur1.ca/8wc8r April 1st... but true if you vote for the two dominant parties | Apr 03 19:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: (re)ELECT GOLDMAN SACHS! | OccupyWallSt.org .::. Size~: 49.86 KB | Apr 03 19:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] Hear on NPR this morning that Gitmo miliarary tribunals are now "fair". So when do we get the first prosecutions of waterboarding torture ? | Apr 03 19:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNOME 3.4: Are We There Yet? http://ur1.ca/8wc9u #gnu #gnome | Apr 03 19:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: GNOME 3.4: Are We There Yet? | Linux.com .::. Size~: 45.63 KB | Apr 03 19:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just might. Hmm. That might make me a little nicer about it. | Apr 03 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Proprietary GNU, iOS only http://ur1.ca/8wcb4 | Apr 03 19:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gnu Revenge Review » 148Apps » iPhone and iPod Touch Application Reviews and News .::. Size~: 68.72 KB | Apr 03 19:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat questions Canonical's Ubuntu EC2 popularity claims http://ur1.ca/8wcbj #redhat #ubuntu #linux | Apr 03 19:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Question: do you see the pagination problem anywhere besides your home timeline? | Apr 03 19:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat questions Canonical's Ubuntu EC2 popularity claims - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 72.74 KB | Apr 03 19:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Steve Wozniak: Ashton Kutcher Will Be GREAT as Steve Jobs (TMZ): http://bit.ly/HdLV7F | Apr 03 19:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Wozniak -- Ashton Kutcher Will Be GREAT as Steve Jobs | TMZ.com .::. Size~: 115.89 KB | Apr 03 19:19 |
| MinceR | is Kutcher that great at playing douchebags? | Apr 03 19:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | NO | Apr 03 19:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | DO NOT WANT | Apr 03 19:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | DEAR HOLLYWOOD: PLEASE FIRE THAT FUCKING COLLOSSAL DOUCHEBAG FOREVER | Apr 03 19:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | STOP GIVING HIM MONEY | Apr 03 19:21 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 03 19:21 |
| MinceR | you're making it sound like a good choice | Apr 03 19:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | steve jobs was never an annoying douchebag | Apr 03 19:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | not like that, anyways | Apr 03 19:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | steve jobs had the whole fake zen student thing going on for him | Apr 03 19:21 |
| MinceR | yeah, someone who abandons his own daughter and defrauds his own best friend is not an annoying douchebag | Apr 03 19:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | as long as you grounded yourself against his RDF by pissing on his desk, you're okay | Apr 03 19:22 |
| MinceR | or someone who rips of a community of developers and then attacks them for "stealing his ideas" | Apr 03 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: surprisingly, that DOESNT make you a douchebag | Apr 03 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | it makes you evil, but not a douchebag. | Apr 03 19:22 |
| MinceR | (ideas that he stole from xerox parc) | Apr 03 19:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | douchebags WISH they had the balls to do that | Apr 03 19:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Xfce 4.10pre1 released http://ur1.ca/8w72p #Xfce #gnu #linux | Apr 03 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Preparing on a budget | SHTF School http://goo.gl/VudjE #preppers #selco | Apr 03 19:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: News - Xfce .::. Size~: 6.47 KB | Apr 03 19:23 |
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| MinceR | Diablo-D3: it's not a question of balls, it's a question of lack of a spine | Apr 03 19:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dunno, pissing off half of the planet takes balls | Apr 03 19:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | even I know better not to do that | Apr 03 19:24 |
| MinceR | i dunno, i have more respect for myself than to stoop to his level | Apr 03 19:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | who needs respect when you have power. | Apr 03 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vendor Touts Open-Source Trading Platform http://ur1.ca/8wcf2 #opensource | Apr 03 19:28 | |
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| MinceR | you'll find out when you realize that all the power in the world won't let you delude yourself about your moral character :> | Apr 03 19:28 |
| schestowitz | then you buy rich people's drugs | Apr 03 19:29 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't make reality better, just makes you feel better | Apr 03 19:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh, I think you misunderstood | Apr 03 19:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just want to watch the world burn. | Apr 03 19:30 |
| MinceR | that seems to be a different thing | Apr 03 19:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's this time of the year again. Time to ignore who contibutes to #Linux and instead write sensationalist headlines about Microsoft Trojans | Apr 03 19:33 | |
| fewt | wait there are contributors to sensationalist microsoft linux trojan headlines? | Apr 03 19:34 |
| *fewt lols | Apr 03 19:34 | |
| DaemonFC | well, the FAT patent loss is apparently going to cause them trouble | Apr 03 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | they used that one to tax Linux quite a lot | Apr 03 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | they already have Florian Mueller trying to minimize this setback | Apr 03 19:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 03 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh don't worry, they'll find something else to steal from you with!" | Apr 03 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | but he might be right, if ExFAT catches on we're going to be worse off than we ever wre while Microsoft was trolling FAT32 | Apr 03 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Trying to picture @bkuhn on trading floor of #NYSE | Apr 03 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #CloudStack is an attempt to confuse (not OpenStack). Just like 'Open' XML (proprietary) versus OpenDocument. #openwashing | Apr 03 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Well, you were right. I've been noodling with your timeline and I think the problem is a deleted notice. Might have a fix soon. | Apr 03 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cross-Platform Essentials - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/u48Lq "for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux" | Apr 03 19:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | hopefully the kernel people refuse to implement ExFAT and someone that isn't worth suing comes up with a FUSE module instead | Apr 03 19:38 |
| MinceR | i think we're in a better position against that than what was in the VFAT case | Apr 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | how so? | Apr 03 19:38 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's a good plan | Apr 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | they have several patents on ExFAT | Apr 03 19:39 |
| MinceR | well, linux is widely spread (especially on mobile, which matters now) and the sw patent threat is much better known | Apr 03 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, We're not talking high performance devices with ExFAT | Apr 03 19:39 |
| MinceR | (iirc software patents weren't even invented back when they hacked up VFAT) | Apr 03 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | certainly nothing where the bottleneck would be if it's a user or kernel mode driver | Apr 03 19:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DEFT 7.1 ready for download http://ur1.ca/8wcic #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Apr 03 19:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DEFT 7.1 ready for download DEFT Linux - Computer Forensics live cd .::. Size~: 12.82 KB | Apr 03 19:39 |
| MinceR | it has more weight now if the free software community says "yeah, well, we're not going to support that shit" | Apr 03 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | so putting it out as a FUSE module and sparing the kernel the risk of dealing with Microsoft's patent trolling again would be the ideal option | Apr 03 19:40 |
| MinceR | no need to rush with the FUSE implementation either :> | Apr 03 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | well, device makers may decide to implement it themselves as a kernel module and pay Microsoft the tax | Apr 03 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | just so they can claim it "just works" with Windows | Apr 03 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not talking about that though | Apr 03 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | if they want to pay Microsoft, that's unfortunate | Apr 03 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | but I'm talking about what happens when I plug said device into a Linux PC | Apr 03 19:42 |
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| DaemonFC | I think we should have an ExFAT implementation in FUSE jsut like NTFS-3G was done | Apr 03 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | that way you don't have to build a custom kernel if your distribution chose not to risk shipping ExFAT | Apr 03 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | you load a FUSE module, nobody gets sued, and cake and punch follow :) | Apr 03 19:43 |
| fewt | You could build an argument that all modules should be separate from the kernel | Apr 03 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | well, that's ridiculous | Apr 03 19:43 |
| fewt | naah | Apr 03 19:43 |
| fewt | I didn't say separate projects | Apr 03 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think the ones that are almost certainly patent encumbered should be cast out into userspace | Apr 03 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | especially if there's a company like Microsoft behind the patents | Apr 03 19:44 |
| fewt | I maintain them in two different places? | Apr 03 19:44 |
| fewt | s/i/why/i | Apr 03 19:44 |
| fewt | brain to keyboard fail there | Apr 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | because some devices need high performance | Apr 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | and some don't | Apr 03 19:44 |
| fewt | ExFAT may need high performance | Apr 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | pushing video and sound drivers into userspace causes a large performance problem | Apr 03 19:44 |
| fewt | storage | Apr 03 19:44 |
| fewt | I didn't imply userspace | Apr 03 19:45 |
| fewt | just external to the kernel | Apr 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | pushing file system drivers for high performance storage into userspace would take an unacceptable toll | Apr 03 19:45 |
| MinceR | afaik FUSE still has some shortcomings though | Apr 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | pushing out a few that Microsoft will sue you for into userspace so people can still access their camera? | Apr 03 19:45 |
| MinceR | can it do sparse files already, for example? | Apr 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | that's what I'm talking about | Apr 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yes | Apr 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | you can use NTFS sparse files with the NTFS-3G module | Apr 03 19:46 |
| fewt | Microsoft has done one thing right, their driver model | Apr 03 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | no, they did it because of hollywood DRM | Apr 03 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | and they slipped in a huge performance regression to accomplish it | Apr 03 19:46 |
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| DaemonFC | just the user space to kernel space switching alone in their video and sound drivers is very expensive | Apr 03 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | but Vista and Vista 7 weren't built for speed | Apr 03 19:47 |
| fewt | Uhh, what? | Apr 03 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | they were built to appease the criminal organizations that control most movies and music | Apr 03 19:47 |
| fewt | You've lost me | Apr 03 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | anything that directly touches the hardware or manages memory should never be in user space | Apr 03 19:48 |
| fewt | I agree with that | Apr 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | it's slower and you run the risk of confusing the kernel when you do this | Apr 03 19:48 |
| fewt | confusing the kernel? | Apr 03 19:48 |
| fewt | how do you confuse a kernel? | Apr 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Apr 03 19:48 |
| fewt | things are either 1 or 0 | Apr 03 19:48 |
| fewt | ;) | Apr 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | well, UMS managed to do it time to time | Apr 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 19:49 |
| fewt | UMS? | Apr 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh btw, I fucked around with the video card and didn't tell you and here I'll hand it to you in some undefined state" | Apr 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, when Linux and X worked more like Windows Vista and Vista7 do now | Apr 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 19:49 |
| fewt | What is a Vista7 | Apr 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Windows NT 6.1 | Apr 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | a minor update for Vista | Apr 03 19:50 |
| fewt | oic | Apr 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | their marketing department dubbed it Windows 7 | Apr 03 19:50 |
| fewt | you mean the undoing of the mistake that was Vista | Apr 03 19:50 |
| fewt | called W7 | Apr 03 19:50 |
| fewt | I see. | Apr 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | I mean in most cases, they doubled down on the mistake that was Vista | Apr 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Apr 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Windows XP actually had a better video and sound driver model | Apr 03 19:51 |
| fewt | I don't see what's wrong with 7's model | Apr 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | I agree with getting rid of GDI and going with Direct2D | Apr 03 19:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You can use StatusNet. | Apr 03 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Check with Facebook? | Apr 03 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Why? | Apr 03 19:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm not happy to know that at all. | Apr 03 19:51 | |
| DaemonFC | but pushing performance-critical operations into user space? | Apr 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | doing it so you can enable more DRM? | Apr 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | and that's what they did | Apr 03 19:51 |
| fewt | one benefit of pushing something into user space | Apr 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | the part where they deprecated GDI, finally | Apr 03 19:52 |
| fewt | when a driver pukes, it doesn't take the OS with it | Apr 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | I agree that was a genuine improvement | Apr 03 19:52 |
| fewt | we still have that problem on the Linux side | Apr 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they did it so they could cause the driver to crash | Apr 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | and not take out Windows | Apr 03 19:52 |
| fewt | doesn't happen often, but sometimes | Apr 03 19:52 |
| fewt | poof | Apr 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | thus enabling tougher DRM | Apr 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | the fact that it is more reliable in the case of a genuine driver bug is a side effect | Apr 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | if anything it encourages more driver bugs | Apr 03 19:53 |
| fewt | maybe | Apr 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | because Windows is guaranteed to recover, so why fix your evil driver? | Apr 03 19:53 |
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| fewt | I have no inside info to know that | Apr 03 19:53 |
| fewt | :P | Apr 03 19:53 |
| MinceR | windows isn't guaranteed to do anything :> | Apr 03 19:53 |
| fewt | No OS is | Apr 03 19:53 |
| fewt | no software is | Apr 03 19:53 |
| MinceR | but it's futile to expect their drivers to be good | Apr 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's the driver model equivalent of telling someone they might as well go over and piss on the wall | Apr 03 19:53 |
| fewt | even GPL dispels any guarantee of software working. :) | Apr 03 19:53 |
| MinceR | they never had any incentive to have good drivers, still don't | Apr 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | because someone will come around to clean it up | Apr 03 19:53 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about legal guarantees though | Apr 03 19:54 |
| fewt | +1 | Apr 03 19:54 |
| fewt | I was generalizing | Apr 03 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | I don't buy the arguments of moving things into user space unless they're just too legally risky to ship or just aren't that important or just aren't going to be in a position to cause noticeable performance drop off | Apr 03 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | so you're basically left with Microsoft file system drivers for low performance flash memory | Apr 03 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 19:55 |
| fewt | I don't think kernel modules should be moved to user space, but I think they should be maintained external to the kernel | Apr 03 19:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Muon Suite 1.3.1 Released http://ur1.ca/8wcmy #kde #kubuntu | Apr 03 19:56 | |
| DaemonFC | going out over USB by itself is usually a bottleneck | Apr 03 19:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Muon Suite 1.3.1 Released | Muktware .::. Size~: 30.06 KB | Apr 03 19:56 |
| fewt | It would reduce the effort of backporting (older kernel doesn't support the new clickpad, so backport the newer module) | Apr 03 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | it always is with anything older than USB 3 | Apr 03 19:56 |
| MinceR | i'm all for eventually moving almost everything to userspace | Apr 03 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | people wouldn't notice any performance loss that userspace file system drivers are likely to cause in that case | Apr 03 19:57 |
| MinceR | (HURD) | Apr 03 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I think Pulseaudio in userspace is ridiculous | Apr 03 19:58 |
| jntuh | quit | Apr 03 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | sound mixing in user space is ridiculous | Apr 03 19:58 |
| MinceR | no u | Apr 03 19:58 |
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| MinceR | DaemonFC: i'm not sure it has always has to be like that | Apr 03 19:58 |
| MinceR | though it would probably need some realtime guarantees to work well | Apr 03 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | you can't give any good hard latency guarantees when you're doing something like that outside of the kernel | Apr 03 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | you can't | Apr 03 19:59 |
| MinceR | why? | Apr 03 19:59 |
| fewt | I agreem why? | Apr 03 19:59 |
| fewt | s/m/,/ | Apr 03 19:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check it out! The Power of Open book now in text-to-speech audio thanks to @madaqatc: http://ur1.ca/4jrqb | Apr 03 19:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | because turning around and asking the kernel to do something through a middleman causes latency | Apr 03 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | and it always will | Apr 03 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | it might not be much, but it will cause some | Apr 03 20:00 |
| fewt | unless it's been given the proper priority | Apr 03 20:00 |
| MinceR | with the right design, that latency can be predictable | Apr 03 20:00 |
| fewt | see: rtlinux | Apr 03 20:00 |
| MinceR | so you can start doing stuff in time | Apr 03 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | when you're doing sound mixing, even a few milliseconds can be too much | Apr 03 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | it depends on what you're doing | Apr 03 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | I think that if your only excuse to shove stuff out of the kernel is that it's buggy, you should be fixing your broken kernel module | Apr 03 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | not trying to hide your bugs | Apr 03 20:02 |
| MinceR | unlikely | Apr 03 20:02 |
| MinceR | your sound card has a buffer, doesn't it? | Apr 03 20:02 |
| MinceR | if it doesn't, and you're running a multitasking system, chances are doing the mixing in kernel mode won't save you | Apr 03 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | the kind that you're likely to buy for professional use have hardware mixing | Apr 03 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | so most people would end up not using Pulseaudio at all if they want better latency guarantees | Apr 03 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] ACOs and Moneyball medicine part II: A new era of Network Science in health care by @leonardkish | http://red.ht/HPBbdz | Apr 03 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vivaldi Orders Delayed, Blessing In Disguise http://ur1.ca/8wcoe #opentablets #kde #vivaldi | Apr 03 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh, now I get it; the draft Canadian !Copyright legislation Bill !C11 *was* made in !Canada (by foreign lobbyists) http://www.ur1.ca/8wcnl | Apr 03 20:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | I think that's the excuse for Pulseaudio being where it is and usually getting away with it and delivering acceptable results | Apr 03 20:03 |
| MinceR | just driving the audio device off DMA would give you a buffer | Apr 03 20:03 |
| MinceR | the device can play from it and your kernel will hand another timeslice to the userspace mixing process before it runs out | Apr 03 20:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Auch gut erklärt ist das Leistungsschutzrecht immer noch Quark. #cbase #digiges | Apr 03 20:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Happy I have fully closed headphones. Plane to London filled with at least 80 school kids on their way home. | Apr 03 20:04 | |
| schestowitz | fewt: http://www.muktware.com/articles/3489/fuduntu-20122-released | Apr 03 20:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fuduntu 2012.2 Released | Muktware .::. Size~: 31.52 KB | Apr 03 20:06 |
| schestowitz | just seen that | Apr 03 20:06 |
| fewt | schestowitz: :) | Apr 03 20:06 |
| fewt | We are getting bigger | Apr 03 20:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Remains Leading Contributor To Linux Development http://ur1.ca/8wcpj #linux #redhat #kernel | Apr 03 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "U S Gov't personnel stationed there…help improve…host country’s protection&enforcement of IP rights" http://www.ur1.ca/8wcnl !C11 !CDNpoli | Apr 03 20:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb @x11r5 they escaped a maximum security interwebs, convicted of a DDOS they didn't commit, they now survive as bots of for ... | Apr 03 20:06 | |
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| MinceR | "low latency" doesn't mean "the CPU will spend all of its time dealing with your audio", it means low latency. | Apr 03 20:07 |
| fewt | Over the last two months we estimate that we grew from 1K users to 5K users | Apr 03 20:08 |
| fewt | ish | Apr 03 20:08 |
| fewt | not big | Apr 03 20:08 |
| fewt | at-all | Apr 03 20:08 |
| fewt | but growing. :) | Apr 03 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Fudbuntu is growing Mono dependency, a few thousandths of a percent at a time? | Apr 03 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's your evil master plan? | Apr 03 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 20:08 |
| fewt | actually DaemonFC we dropped a mono dependency | Apr 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Jupiter | Apr 03 20:09 |
| fewt | Jupiter was rewritten in Python and has a new GUI maintainer. | Apr 03 20:09 |
| MinceR | also, you're spelling FUDuntu incorrectly ;) | Apr 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's in Python now so I might look at it | Apr 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want Mono on my system | Apr 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | for anything | Apr 03 20:09 |
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| fewt | It was only Mono because I knew C# and people demanded a GUI to configure Eee PC Utilities | Apr 03 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I applaud Ubuntu for removing it and giving users a choice | Apr 03 20:09 |
| fewt | so I gave them one. :D | Apr 03 20:09 |
| *DaemonFC gives mad openrespect props to jono | Apr 03 20:09 | |
| MinceR | seconded. | Apr 03 20:10 |
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| fewt | They always had a choice | Apr 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | so Ubuntu 12.04 can go back on my list of recommendations | Apr 03 20:11 |
| fewt | there are other distros. :D | Apr 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | I stopped recommending it a while back | Apr 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | because they were becoming more and more entangled with this crap as time went on | Apr 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | at first you removed Mono and lost a notes widget...boo hoo | Apr 03 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | then at the worst point, you were removing the notes widget, a game (no big deal), your media player, and several other things | Apr 03 20:12 |
| fewt | I think trying to force Mono out of all distros takes away choice | Apr 03 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | so while expecting the user to remove a massive useless thing is ridiculous and a nuisance | Apr 03 20:12 |
| fewt | to some degree | Apr 03 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | asking them to rip out a bunch of software is unrealistic as well | Apr 03 20:12 |
| fewt | That said, I don't think it should be in all distros | Apr 03 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | it's still in the repository | Apr 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | if the user wants it, it's easy to install | Apr 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | one click | Apr 03 20:13 |
| fewt | but if a better saw uses mono and a distribution provider decides to use it, the community shouldn't care | Apr 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | the choice of whether to have it or not was granted in Ubuntu 12.04 | Apr 03 20:13 |
| fewt | because it is one of many | Apr 03 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | it was being rammed down the user's throat before | Apr 03 20:13 |
| MinceR | until it becomes the only thing | Apr 03 20:13 |
| MinceR | and then m$ comes knocking | Apr 03 20:13 |
| fewt | MinceR sure, I'd agree with that | Apr 03 20:14 |
| MinceR | and suddenly you're faced with the decision to pay up or reinvent half of your distro | Apr 03 20:14 |
| fewt | but that isn't the case | Apr 03 20:14 |
| fewt | that's a doomsday scenario | Apr 03 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, it's like a tumor growing every 6 months | Apr 03 20:14 |
| fewt | that may or may not ever happen | Apr 03 20:14 |
| MinceR | and that is if they don't sneak mono into the lower parts of the system, say, the kernel | Apr 03 20:14 |
| MinceR | and that's not mentioning what unimaginable piece of crap .net/mono is | Apr 03 20:14 |
| fewt | That doesn't make any sense | Apr 03 20:14 |
| fewt | mono in the kernel? | Apr 03 20:14 |
| MinceR | i'm sure miguel is dreaming about that | Apr 03 20:14 |
| fewt | lol | Apr 03 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | you could write a kernel in C# | Apr 03 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | it's been done | Apr 03 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | but they basically gave up | Apr 03 20:15 |
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| DaemonFC | it was useful enough to get a few news articles and then vanish | Apr 03 20:15 |
| MinceR | or they were moved back to the "make new skins for the next winblows version" project ;) | Apr 03 20:15 |
| fewt | I'm just saying that it could be considered just as evil to demand that no distro ships mono than it would be to demand that all distros ship mono. | Apr 03 20:15 |
| fewt | that's all | Apr 03 20:15 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure about demands | Apr 03 20:15 |
| MinceR | i just won't recommend any distro that installs mono by default to anyone | Apr 03 20:16 |
| fewt | s/than it/as it/ | Apr 03 20:16 |
| fewt | fair enough | Apr 03 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | I've never demanded that Mono not be in the repository of a distribution that I would use | Apr 03 20:16 |
| fewt | there is nothing wrong with that | Apr 03 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if they offer it to me and I can choose not to take it | Apr 03 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | a distribution that comes with it is off my list | Apr 03 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | because there's no telling how much of it they're going to pile onto you as time goes on | Apr 03 20:17 |
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| DaemonFC | even if it's fairly simple to remove at first | Apr 03 20:17 |
| fewt | I'm more of a believer in the right tool for the job, and the community promise builds a credible defense against any Microsoft attck. | Apr 03 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | no it doesn't | Apr 03 20:17 |
| fewt | ugh brain finger fail today is astounding. | Apr 03 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | !google Microsoft's empty promise | Apr 03 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Microsoft's Empty Promise — Free Software Foundation — working ... | http://www.fsf.org/news/2009-07-mscp-mono | Apr 03 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Microsoft makes habitual empty promise: Win8 will run well on Win7 ... | http://www.itworld.com/windows/182375/microsoft-makes-habitual-empty-promise-win8-will-run-well-win7-hardware | Apr 03 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Reader's Article: Microsoft's Empty “Community Promise” (Mono) is a ... | http://techrights.org/2009/07/09/community-promise-sham/ | Apr 03 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microsoft and Google make patent promises | TG Daily | http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/61345-microsoft-and-google-make-patent-promises | Apr 03 20:17 |
| fewt | meh, smoke and mirrors links equal to the smoke and mirrors links you'd find at Microsoft.com | Apr 03 20:18 |
| MinceR | i don't see any job outside m$ that m$ visual java is the right tool for | Apr 03 20:18 |
| fewt | heh visual java? I didn't know that still existed | Apr 03 20:18 |
| MinceR | that's what i call .net/mono | Apr 03 20:18 |
| MinceR | since it's just a lame clone of java | Apr 03 20:18 |
| MinceR | along with "c#" | Apr 03 20:18 |
| fewt | oic | Apr 03 20:18 |
| fewt | All languages are copies to some degree | Apr 03 20:19 |
| fewt | C# reminds me of Perl | Apr 03 20:19 |
| fewt | dunno why | Apr 03 20:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The 1% Linux myth http://ur1.ca/8wcsz #gnu #linux | Apr 03 20:19 | |
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| fewt | Vala could be considered a ripoff of C# | Apr 03 20:20 |
| fewt | but I wouldn't call it that | Apr 03 20:20 |
| MinceR | i'd say vala differs more from c# than c# does from java | Apr 03 20:20 |
| MinceR | seeing that vala is focused on generating native code | Apr 03 20:20 |
| fewt | There is also DotGNU | Apr 03 20:20 |
| MinceR | dotgnu's been dead for a while | Apr 03 20:20 |
| fewt | which is a ripoff of C# and Mono | Apr 03 20:20 |
| fewt | sure | Apr 03 20:20 |
| fewt | but it still existed | Apr 03 20:21 |
| MinceR | ever since the FSF realized the game m$ is playing with .net :> | Apr 03 20:21 |
| MinceR | it wasn't obvious to me either | Apr 03 20:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.4 goes into testing http://ur1.ca/8wctp | Apr 03 20:23 | |
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| prurigro | MinceR, game: reduce the average quality of applications on their platform? | Apr 03 20:24 |
| MinceR | no | Apr 03 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No, it's nothing you could have done. | Apr 03 20:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Resara software focuses on Linux-based servers http://ur1.ca/8wcub #linux #gnu | Apr 03 20:24 | |
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| MinceR | hold the platform they fear the most hostage by injecting their software patents into it | Apr 03 20:25 |
| fewt | Apple? | Apr 03 20:25 |
| fewt | :P | Apr 03 20:25 |
| MinceR | what reason would they have to fear crApple? | Apr 03 20:26 |
| MinceR | they've almost fused already | Apr 03 20:26 |
| fewt | There isn't much to fear in our world anymore, GNOME 3 and Unity are doing a great job of driving people to Windows and Mac. | Apr 03 20:26 |
| prurigro | lol | Apr 03 20:26 |
| prurigro | apple has become similar to microsoft, but its still a competing product | Apr 03 20:26 |
| fewt | Windows 8 will probably push them to Apple | Apr 03 20:26 |
| prurigro | gnome 3 is actually quite good-- kde 4 also | Apr 03 20:26 |
| MinceR | yeah, because there are no other DEs and WMs and even if they were, no distros use them | Apr 03 20:26 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Apr 03 20:26 |
| prurigro | xfce | Apr 03 20:27 |
| fewt | non-tech users don't install things | Apr 03 20:27 |
| fewt | well not complete desktops | Apr 03 20:27 |
| fewt | they google, find the big two | Apr 03 20:27 |
| MinceR | see, that's why they don't have GNU/Linux on their desktops | Apr 03 20:27 |
| fewt | Ubuntu and Fedora | Apr 03 20:27 |
| MinceR | and because of the OEM deals | Apr 03 20:27 |
| fewt | despise that there is no start menu, complain to a friend | Apr 03 20:27 |
| prurigro | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xfce | Apr 03 20:27 |
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| fewt | the friend says get a Mac | Apr 03 20:27 |
| MinceR | both ubuntu and fedora have xfce-based livecds with installers | Apr 03 20:27 |
| fewt | You are taking it too low level | Apr 03 20:28 |
| MinceR | the fedora installer dvd can install xfce as part of the install process | Apr 03 20:28 |
| prurigro | linux isn't meant for the masses | Apr 03 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] OctConf draws nearer and nearer! http://isitoctconf.org/ | Apr 03 20:28 | |
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| prurigro | in that respect anyway | Apr 03 20:28 |
| fewt | if it isn't on the main page, it isn't there | Apr 03 20:28 |
| MinceR | you're taking it too low level | Apr 03 20:28 |
| fewt | prurigro +1 that it isn't | Apr 03 20:28 |
| MinceR | if it isn't preinstalled, it isn't there | Apr 03 20:28 |
| fewt | that's a fair point MinceR | Apr 03 20:28 |
| prurigro | either we make linux as useless as osx, or we enjoy our private club :) | Apr 03 20:28 |
| fewt | you are right | Apr 03 20:28 |
| fewt | Just more reasons to roll my own. :) | Apr 03 20:29 |
| MinceR | maybe canonical will end up making an os as useless as osx, but with apps we can use | Apr 03 20:29 |
| MinceR | who knows | Apr 03 20:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 03 20:29 |
| prurigro | fewt, more reasons to use arch ;) | Apr 03 20:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red-Hot Red Hat's Shares Climb to 12-Year High http://ur1.ca/8wcvc #redhat #rhel #gnu #linux | Apr 03 20:29 | |
| fewt | prurigro, maybe. :) | Apr 03 20:29 |
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| prurigro | MinceR, and that is exactly why I'm not on the ubuntu hate train | Apr 03 20:29 |
| fewt | I've pretty much stopped hating Ubuntu | Apr 03 20:30 |
| MinceR | i just hope that computer users are not so stupid that it's necessary to give them as useless as osx | Apr 03 20:30 |
| fewt | but I still dislike Mark and think he's doing more harm than good | Apr 03 20:30 |
| MinceR | s/ as / something as / | Apr 03 20:30 |
| fewt | He speaks from the ego imho | Apr 03 20:30 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 03 20:30 |
| fewt | just like the GNOME developers | Apr 03 20:30 |
| MinceR | ubuntu is not yet as useless as osx anyway, you can install a real DE from the package manager still, afaik | Apr 03 20:31 |
| cubezzz | just like any programmer? :) | Apr 03 20:31 |
| fewt | cubezzz a programmer != a developer | Apr 03 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but Canonical will only officially support Unity | Apr 03 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's a subtle distinction | Apr 03 20:31 |
| fewt | a programmer understands how a system works | Apr 03 20:31 |
| prurigro | I know someone who frequently asks me how to access a usb stick in windows | Apr 03 20:31 |
| fewt | a developer makes shiny things | Apr 03 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Seneca College builds #Linux #Fedora for Raspberry Pi http://ur1.ca/8wcwb "Linux Fedora" says financial site | Apr 03 20:33 | |
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| fewt | prurigro I know a lot of people like that | Apr 03 20:33 |
| fewt | they are just users | Apr 03 20:33 |
| prurigro | fewt, I think you're examining the difference between left and right brained computer savvy individuals | Apr 03 20:33 |
| prurigro | in your programmer/developer comparison | Apr 03 20:33 |
| fewt | ;) | Apr 03 20:34 |
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| cubezzz | that's more of an old-school definition for programmer | Apr 03 20:34 |
| fewt | Linus = Programmer | Apr 03 20:34 |
| fewt | Mark = Developer | Apr 03 20:34 |
| fewt | RMS = Programmer | Apr 03 20:34 |
| MinceR | i thought mark was more of a manager :) | Apr 03 20:34 |
| fewt | oh, right | Apr 03 20:34 |
| fewt | s/Developer/Designer/ | Apr 03 20:34 |
| fewt | :) | Apr 03 20:34 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 03 20:35 |
| prurigro | some people also use both hemispheres equally | Apr 03 20:35 |
| cubezzz | lots of programmer's never look at BIOS code | Apr 03 20:35 |
| fewt | I had a long conversation (if you could call it that) with a GNOME 3 developer the other day | Apr 03 20:35 |
| prurigro | and lots don't touch gui toolkits | Apr 03 20:35 |
| fewt | blew my mind how little he knew about the systems he was designing for | Apr 03 20:35 |
| fewt | he thought that a laptop could burn out if you close the lid | Apr 03 20:35 |
| cubezzz | well gui toolkits are OK | Apr 03 20:35 |
| fewt | lolwhat? | Apr 03 20:36 |
| cubezzz | I just use older toolkits | Apr 03 20:36 |
| fewt | I'm neither a developer or a programmer | Apr 03 20:36 |
| cubezzz | BIOS is the hardest to write code for | Apr 03 20:36 |
| fewt | but I try to understand things at the lowest level possible | Apr 03 20:36 |
| MinceR | 213504 < fewt> he thought that a laptop could burn out if you close the lid | Apr 03 20:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 03 20:36 |
| MinceR | that explains so much | Apr 03 20:37 |
| cubezzz | since the chip manufacturers like to keep secrets | Apr 03 20:37 |
| fewt | MinceR I'm serious, sadly. :( | Apr 03 20:37 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, that does happen actually | Apr 03 20:37 |
| fewt | this guy is the one that coded GNOME 3 to suspend on close | Apr 03 20:37 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: crApple? | Apr 03 20:37 |
| cubezzz | older plasm displays could melt the keyboard | Apr 03 20:37 |
| cubezzz | plasma | Apr 03 20:37 |
| MinceR | didn't they think of turning the display off if the lid was closed? | Apr 03 20:37 |
| fewt | +1 | Apr 03 20:37 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, not in every case | Apr 03 20:37 |
| prurigro | I'm pretty equal-brained, so I end up wasting time trying to make slick apps via the lowest level that makes sense | Apr 03 20:37 |
| MinceR | most of my laptops do that from hardware | Apr 03 20:38 |
| prurigro | burn out how? the battery? | Apr 03 20:38 |
| MinceR | the dHell did it in software, but it still worked | Apr 03 20:38 |
| cubezzz | no, the heat from the plasma screen melted the keyboard | Apr 03 20:38 |
| fewt | "> What if I want to start something compiling on the couch, and close the screen while I watch TV? | Apr 03 20:38 |
| fewt | You burn down your laptop. And it suddenly turns off if it hits the temperature limit. You just lost some data. Solution: lower the screen to stop it from distracting you. It is not boolean, you do not have to close it or open it. It can live happily half way through." | Apr 03 20:38 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 03 20:38 |
| MinceR | yeah, try carrying it to a meeting with the lid not fully closed, while carrying other things | Apr 03 20:39 |
| cubezzz | fans get clogged up, computer can overheat | Apr 03 20:39 |
| fewt | "> What if I want to close the lid to move the laptop so I can carry my notepad on it while my coffee is in the other hand? Oh, can't? USELESS. | Apr 03 20:39 |
| fewt | You make two trips. Which is safer for your laptop anyway. If it is a distance so long that you don't want to walk it twice, then maybe it was not that useful to keep the laptop on. And your coffee might be already cold. | Apr 03 20:39 |
| fewt | " | Apr 03 20:39 |
| cubezzz | it's not that uncommon | Apr 03 20:39 |
| prurigro | lol, they thought laptop screens used plasma? lmao | Apr 03 20:39 |
| MinceR | or try watching a movie in a dark room on an external display with the lid open | Apr 03 20:39 |
| fewt | The fan can get clogged up just the same with a screen open or closed since it's on the side, and not in the lid. :) | Apr 03 20:39 |
| fewt | MinceR: +1 that | Apr 03 20:39 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: the lid doesn't block heat much and if the backlight is off, it won't produce heat | Apr 03 20:40 |
| fewt | backlights are most often LED these days so they produce very little heat anyway | Apr 03 20:40 |
| MinceR | basically, if a laptop burns the keyboard that way, it's a bad design that probably shouldn't have been approved for sales | Apr 03 20:40 |
| fewt | +1 | Apr 03 20:40 |
| cubezzz | this is in the 286 era | Apr 03 20:40 |
| cubezzz | you guys probably haven't encountered it | Apr 03 20:41 |
| prurigro | MinceR, exploding batteries were perhaps also a bad design :) | Apr 03 20:41 |
| MinceR | i think lid switches don't require post-286 era technology | Apr 03 20:41 |
| fewt | cubezzz: like a Compaq Portable II? | Apr 03 20:41 |
| *fewt had one of those | Apr 03 20:41 | |
| *fewt is from that era | Apr 03 20:41 | |
| fewt | also had a Compaq Portable I | Apr 03 20:41 |
| MinceR | especially that extremely simple implementation i saw once | Apr 03 20:41 |
| fewt | but I digress | Apr 03 20:41 |
| prurigro | 2-486 laptops were awesome | Apr 03 20:41 |
| cubezzz | I wish I still had the 286, but it probably got junked | Apr 03 20:41 |
| MinceR | a stick that just sticks out of the lower part which the lid pushes down if closed :> | Apr 03 20:41 |
| cubezzz | fewt, yeah I think so | Apr 03 20:42 |
| prurigro | the few people I've known who were lucky enough to have one can still boot them up like when they were new | Apr 03 20:42 |
| fewt | anyway, these are the people designing and developing our future desktops | Apr 03 20:42 |
| fewt | :( | Apr 03 20:42 |
| cubezzz | Toshiba T3100e I think it was | Apr 03 20:42 |
| cubezzz | no battery | Apr 03 20:43 |
| fewt | ahh, nice | Apr 03 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | apparently my 23" LED monitor only uses 40 watts at full brightness | Apr 03 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | and 30 in the Energy Save mode which I use | Apr 03 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | that's pretty neat | Apr 03 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | at one point I was using a CRT that said it typically used over 100 | Apr 03 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OSADL experimentally analyses Linux's real-time capabilities http://ur1.ca/8wddl #linux #osadl | Apr 03 20:44 | |
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| MinceR | fewt: only if you're using gnome or unity :> | Apr 03 20:45 |
| fewt | MinceR fair enough | Apr 03 20:45 |
| fewt | My parting words to this person were that I would never touch GNOME 3 again, I certainly hope he proves me wrong but after that conversation there is little hope. | Apr 03 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | give this thing 5 years and it will pay for itself in the reduced electric bill | Apr 03 20:45 |
| fewt | didn't even grasp the basics | Apr 03 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | well, more than half anyway | Apr 03 20:46 |
| cubezzz | don't like gnome 3 | Apr 03 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | my GPU only draws about 15 watts at idle | Apr 03 20:47 |
| cubezzz | seems like a ton of people don't like gnome 3 | Apr 03 20:47 |
| TakinOver | fewt: I can't imagine that the whole GNOME 3 team or the whole Ubuntu Unity team (either one) are that uninformed. I don't use or like GNOME, but let's not paint them with the 'stupid' brush. | Apr 03 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | but that can increase to as much as 45 depending on what I'm doing | Apr 03 20:47 |
| cubezzz | write your own DE :) | Apr 03 20:48 |
| MinceR | what for? i have xfce. :) | Apr 03 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-April/000951.html | Apr 03 20:48 |
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| MinceR | and even if i didn't, i'd still have lxde or fluxbox or openbox or icewm ... | Apr 03 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | == Kubuntu Future == | Apr 03 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | * Jonathan Riddell wanted to know if the TB had any problem with | Apr 03 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Kubuntu being sponsored by someone else than Canonical. | Apr 03 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | * The consensus was that there shouldn't be any problem with that as | Apr 03 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | far as the Technical Board is concerned at least. | Apr 03 20:49 |
| cubezzz | at least in the linux world you have tons o choices | Apr 03 20:49 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 03 20:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Going to HOPE, @2600's NYC hacker con this July? Buy soon: $10 from every ticket in April goes to EFF. Thanks, guys! https://eff.org/r.4Wb | Apr 03 20:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | there's already a couple Kubuntu-based distributions | Apr 03 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Linux Mint has one | Apr 03 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Netrunner is another one | Apr 03 20:50 |
| fewt | TakinOver I would like to not paint then with a stupid brush, but he was responsible for the decision to suspend on close and wrote the power control panel. | Apr 03 20:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Humble Bundle Android 2 Ends At $682k USD http://ur1.ca/8wdkz - $5.69 Average Windows Price - $7.07 Mac OS X Price - $9.97 Linux Price | Apr 03 20:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Humble Bundle Android 2 Ends At $682k USD .::. Size~: 16.4 KB | Apr 03 20:51 |
| cubezzz | Fedora has a xfce spin | Apr 03 20:52 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure there's other choices too | Apr 03 20:53 |
| fewt | I have XFCE 4.8, but no-one at Fuduntu wanted it | Apr 03 20:53 |
| fewt | they all wanted to keep GNOME | Apr 03 20:53 |
| fewt | 2 | Apr 03 20:53 |
| cubezzz | I really want something lean for my older boxes | Apr 03 20:55 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ah there was another Humble Bundle for Android? | Apr 03 20:55 |
| sebsebseb | missed that one in that case | Apr 03 20:55 |
| sebsebseb | got the other though | Apr 03 20:55 |
| cubezzz | so I got Openbsd and Vector and Fedora 16 + xfce | Apr 03 20:55 |
| cubezzz | plus a bunch of even older stuff | Apr 03 20:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Qt 5 Alpha http://ur1.ca/8wcmn | Apr 03 20:56 | |
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| cubezzz | openbsd is running off an old 7 gig drive | Apr 03 20:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Attending #12NTC? Learn about online activism and digital rights with @Craignewmark and @EFF's @raineyreitman at 1:30 PM #12NTCDigRgts | Apr 03 20:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 71 dents! | Apr 03 20:59 | |
| fewt | Well time to go. Later! | Apr 03 21:01 |
| MinceR | o/ | Apr 03 21:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] tumblogged: The Statute of Anne: http://tmblr.co/ZMDc9xJ1E8bO !Copyright !C11 !publicdomain | Apr 03 21:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nurturing sweet #opensource success http://ur1.ca/8wdug | Apr 03 21:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | I had a rather unpleasant Windows XP "eXPerience" the other day when mom tried to print something out on Dave's computer and the printer driver was missing. Then it turns out that HP has the most ridiculous driver installer I've ever seen, THEN it turned out I installed the driger for the wrong model because they have two of them that are only slightly differently named. So I had to yank that back out and install the right bundle. Then it tries | Apr 03 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | hosing the system with crapplets and trialware. If I had plugged the same printer into a recent Linux distribution it would have just said "HP printer model (whatever) detected...configuring....done" and then it would print, scan, copy, fax, etc. | Apr 03 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | So Windows still has this aggravating tendency to pop up and drain an hour out of your life for something that Linux would do in about 5 seconds... | Apr 03 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | People tolerate this why? | Apr 03 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Was rather pleasantly surprised to see @2600 doing another DRM-free publication -- the first volume of 2600 -- http://identi.ca/url/68628065 | Apr 03 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Almost every other update Unity Dasher loses its transparency on #Precise Pangolin #Beta Where and how do I report this? @Canonical #ubuntu | Apr 03 21:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | from an email with my dad, who is still using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS that I installed a while back | Apr 03 21:08 |
| schestowitz | I use that too | Apr 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | sicne you put me on alpha of kubuntu 9.10 | Apr 03 21:10 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I saw that too with an HP scanner I gave my mom... in Linux is effortless | Apr 03 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't have any outrageous problems out of Kubuntu 9.10 | Apr 03 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | then I laughed as I was dealing with XP again | Apr 03 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | that I used to think that was normal | Apr 03 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I think it was the last time I was in XP | Apr 03 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | the mouse not detecting | Apr 03 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | on the other computer, not moving so | Apr 03 21:12 |
| MinceR | that's a fun one | Apr 03 21:12 |
| sebsebseb | turn it off, and go back into Windows | Apr 03 21:12 |
| MinceR | when xp decides it won't manage usb devices until you reboot | Apr 03 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | and so a Blue Screen OF death | Apr 03 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | and then it just re boots, and just keeps on doing that | Apr 03 21:13 |
| MinceR | sounds like your case was more severe though :> | Apr 03 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it's a fun one (sarcasm), when it randomly Blue Screen's Of Death | Apr 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | I had a USB controller where occasionally Windows would stop responding to anything I had plugged into it | Apr 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | including my mouse and keyboard | Apr 03 21:13 |
| MinceR | there's also when it randomly doesn't redraw parts of certain windows | Apr 03 21:13 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Apr 03 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up plugging the mouse and keyboard in to different ports controlled by different a different bus so if Windows stopped talking to one, I could still use my keyboard OR my mouse to reboot the system | Apr 03 21:14 |
| sebsebseb | ok so there may be a bit of a hardware issue with the other computer, but eh, no one really uses the XP install on there anymore, and my little brother uses it mainly now, my older brother will sometimes still | Apr 03 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 21:14 |
| sebsebseb | and well Mandriva :) | Apr 03 21:14 |
| sebsebseb | 2010.2 | Apr 03 21:14 |
| sebsebseb | later on this year Mageia 2 | Apr 03 21:14 |
| sebsebseb | so XP eh | Apr 03 21:14 |
| sebsebseb | I don't really care that it's blue screen of deathing, I know that it may be since a hardware issue of some sort though, that's the only thing | Apr 03 21:15 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I know with a minor hardware issue a Linux distro is likely to work properly for quite a lot longer anyway :D | Apr 03 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | having to do a hard reset because Windows decided to stop listening to your input devices is ridiculous | Apr 03 21:16 |
| sebsebseb | ony thing is with the printer doesn't print with 2010.2, but well that printer has issues to, so eh | Apr 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | they ended up fixing that as part of Windows XP SP 2 | Apr 03 21:16 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: uhmm it's XP SP3 on there | Apr 03 21:16 |
| sebsebseb | also yeah it's like my brother's lap top from 2005, his touchpad stopped working properly on the lap top dont' know why | Apr 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | well this system was running XP SP 1 at the time | Apr 03 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | in 2004 | Apr 03 21:16 |
| sebsebseb | it had fallen on the floor before and the monitor had been damaged, but hten a new screen later | Apr 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | SP 2 came out a few months after I got the system | Apr 03 21:17 |
| sebsebseb | anyway | Apr 03 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | that's when I noticed it stopped doing that | Apr 03 21:17 |
| sebsebseb | I did a re install from the dics that came with the lap top from Asus for XP, and that didn't solve the problem either, still this problem with the touchpad | Apr 03 21:17 |
| sebsebseb | ,but when I booted up Live CD's, for PC Linux OS and Mint and so on, yep that worked fine, so I put Linux MInt 9 on there and the touchpad works fine | Apr 03 21:17 |
| sebsebseb | so yeah Windows get's a bit odd with hardware it seems at times, or XP anyway | Apr 03 21:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Puma: open source web server for Ruby http://ur1.ca/8we3b #puma #opensource | Apr 03 21:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | I still have an XP x64 disc around here | Apr 03 21:18 |
| sebsebseb | Asusa/Acer above whatever the make | Apr 03 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | I rolled SP 2 into it and a few hundred hotfixes | Apr 03 21:19 |
| sebsebseb | yeah sometimes need WIndows since some apps | Apr 03 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | and IE 8, WMP 11, and DirectX updates | Apr 03 21:19 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I like your Dad's email | Apr 03 21:20 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: and I think the answer to his question is quite simple, they put up with stuff like that, because they don't know better | Apr 03 21:20 |
| TakinOver | The only use I have for Windows at home is to update my gps nav system. But at work, that's all the org uses. | Apr 03 21:20 |
| sebsebseb | or they put up with WIndows issues, because they don't know or care enough about computers | Apr 03 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | one of the things I noticed about Vista is that starting with Vista it is impossible to roll updates like that | Apr 03 21:20 |
| sebsebseb | TakinOver: well I am going to need to use WIndows for these later driving thorey stuff I got, since the DRM hmm | Apr 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | so you have to spend hours installing SPs and hotfixes every time you have to reinstall | Apr 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, That was me to him | Apr 03 21:21 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: oh | Apr 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | he mentioned a Windows XP disaster at a place he works | Apr 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | so I responded with one of my recent ones | Apr 03 21:21 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | Apr 03 21:21 |
| sebsebseb | ah ok | Apr 03 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's Microsoft, just because there's been 5,000 bug fixes doesn't mean it's going to actually work | Apr 03 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 03 21:22 |
| sebsebseb | yeah they make something that is good enough to sell, that's all really | Apr 03 21:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Incredible art made with open-source weather data http://ur1.ca/8we6k #opendata #art | Apr 03 21:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | just that there's about 45,000 things left that they'll probably never fix | Apr 03 21:23 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Apr 03 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | over the life expectancy of a Windows release, they tend to fix the 10% of bugs that their business customers report as the most frequent and/or annoying | Apr 03 21:24 |
| MinceR | good enough to foist on unwilling users, that is | Apr 03 21:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: good enough to sell to people who want to use a computer and that's it, that dont' really care much about them | Apr 03 21:25 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | Apr 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | that's why the "wait for the service pack" became part of the religion | Apr 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Apr 03 21:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 03 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, After Microsoft has been beating on a Windows release long enough for the second SP to be out | Apr 03 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | that's when it becomes "barely usable" which is the upgrade from "totally unusable" | Apr 03 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not surprised they moved video and audio drivers out to userspace | Apr 03 21:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Russian warships launch drill from Tartus versus US-Israeli-Greek naval exercise http://goo.gl/J5uAF | Apr 03 21:28 | |
| DaemonFC | aside from the added DRM thing, it lets them hide more bugs | Apr 03 21:28 |
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| DaemonFC | and in the proprietary software world, hiding a bug is just as good as fixing the bug | Apr 03 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | going for another bike rid | Apr 03 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | weather is nice | Apr 03 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why fragmentation is not such a huge problem for !Android developers http://ping.fm/KgwZw | Apr 03 21:34 | |
| DaemonFC | why not? :) | Apr 03 21:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 10 great and powerful !Linux commands http://goo.gl/PJxXB « But isn't 6 more of a clever idea than a separate command? | Apr 03 21:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Straw man article http://ur1.ca/8wee6 #android #fud | Apr 03 21:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Looking Towards Ubuntu 12.04 - http://is.gd/SCoRoj #ubuntu | Apr 03 21:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Rick Perry criticises UK initiative to influence US climate sceptics http://gu.com/p/36jcj calling any sane #GOP candidates (if they exist) | Apr 03 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What's behind the anti-anti-bullying backlash http://gu.com/p/36jyq erm, the #Christian far reich rely on bullying; that's why | Apr 03 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Freenet 0.7.5 Build 1406 http://ping.fm/ZrSuU | Apr 03 21:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US government: We hear there's child porn on those Megaupload servers, judge! http://goo.gl/xX9wZ why am I not surprised at this ploy? | Apr 03 22:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Iranian Ninjas Sue Reuters for Defamation of Character | Global Research TV http://goo.gl/qQS1n #msm #medialies | Apr 03 22:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Competition To Identify Sexual Predators In Chat Logs http://goo.gl/1J0o6 | Apr 03 22:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Who is Kofi Annan? The United Nations "Peacekeeper" Handpicked by the CIA http://goo.gl/6SY7F | Apr 03 22:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Instapaper, Readability and monetizing other people’s content http://goo.gl/fXnn8 | Apr 03 22:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ricky The Racist! http://ur1.ca/8wen4 #gop #obama | Apr 03 22:09 | |
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| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbv9L-WIu0s | Apr 03 22:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/4/2012: The 1% GNU/Linux Desktop Myth, Linux 3.4 in RC http://ur1.ca/8weow #techrights | Apr 03 22:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Landed. No gate available at LHR so we will score the taxi area for a nice spot to wait. | Apr 03 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We spend a lot of time cleaning it. Do you know a good solution? | Apr 03 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes. | Apr 03 22:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just pushed a possible fix to identi.ca. What results do you see now? | Apr 03 22:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hokay, give it a try now! | Apr 03 22:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linus Torvalds busts Microsoft patent - Oops, did I do that? | TechEye http://goo.gl/duVt3 | Apr 03 22:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linus Torvalds busts Microsoft patent - Oops, did I do that? | TechEye .::. Size~: 20.54 KB | Apr 03 22:31 |
| MinceR | nice | Apr 03 22:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Lucky you! | Apr 03 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It seems to work on your timeline now. | Apr 03 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: The IP Triumverate http://www.ur1.ca/8werk !Copyright #parent #trademark #myth | Apr 03 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Permaculture - Miiu.org http://goo.gl/ZOXPA | Apr 03 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] E-passport gates at LHR are a joke. Forced me to take off my glasses a d complained it couldn't recognize me. Yep. Tha... http://b1t.it/bgRq | Apr 03 22:34 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 03 22:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: The Tools that Built America (Dover Books on Americana) (9780486437538): Alex W. Bealer: #Books http://goo.gl/oyNdR #preppers | Apr 03 22:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: The IP Triumverate http://www.ur1.ca/8werk !Copyright #patent #trademark #myth | Apr 03 22:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1487436 | Apr 03 22:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Incredible art made with open-source weather data http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/incredible-art-made-with-open.html #opendata #art | Apr 03 22:38 |
| schestowitz | "oooooh, very cool stuff " | Apr 03 22:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Bradley Manning wins popular vote for 2012 Human Rights award http://t.co/7oKMCs0G #freebrad | Apr 03 22:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sibi Totique: The Battle of Perception has begun http://goo.gl/CGn9X #peakoil | Apr 03 22:51 | |
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| scientes | schestowitz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aq5M3Q76U | Apr 03 22:58 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Yes. As he said. Stay calm and fill out the form. http://ur1.ca/8wezc | Apr 03 22:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Chinese telecoms company Huawei under scrutiny in 2008, cables show. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/BARs4yHj | Apr 03 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] just rewatched the best #DS9 episode again, this time understanding on many more levels; #Cisco as Benny, a writer in a segregated US | Apr 03 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 1st time I saw it, I didn't recognise most of the cast out of costume, now I do; Quark, Odo, Nog, Weyun, Ducat, Worf etc #DS9 brilliant ep | Apr 03 23:13 | |
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| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbv9L-WIu0s#t=15m40s | Apr 03 23:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bloat: How and Why UNIX Grew Up (and Out) - Rusty Russell,Matt Evans - YouTube .::. Size~: 120.66 KB | Apr 03 23:17 |
| prurigro | I think the cups article might need to update their screenshot of fedora: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fedora-CUPS-gui.png :) | Apr 03 23:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: File:Fedora-CUPS-gui.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 41.65 KB | Apr 03 23:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Smearing Toddler Reputations Via Internet: Free Speech Or Extortion? http://goo.gl/WMAlb | Apr 03 23:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Smearing Toddler Reputations Via Internet: Free Speech Or Extortion? - Slashdot .::. Size~: 107.42 KB | Apr 03 23:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Weird Al Wonders Why Sony Music Never Gave Him His White & Nerdy Cut Of YouTube's Equity Payout http://goo.gl/exEBf for the artists right? | Apr 03 23:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Flashback: @WikiLeaks in the press, February 2011. What we learned about Egypt's intel chief, Omar Suleiman. #Cablegate htt ... | Apr 03 23:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Weird Al Wonders Why Sony Music Never Gave Him His White & Nerdy Cut Of YouTube's Equity Payout | Techdirt .::. Size~: 33.93 KB | Apr 03 23:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1483237 | Apr 03 23:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | Apr 03 23:24 |
| schestowitz | "I trust it because it is consistent with other reports, like the French National Police, and personal experience. Free software is easier to use and manage as well as cheaper. Robert Pogson points out that they could have done it cheaper with thin clients. I like that they did it the expensive way and still came out ahead." | Apr 03 23:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: @wl_central's extensive coverage of cables on Omar Suleiman, Egypt's intel chief and presidential candidate. #Wikileaks htt ... | Apr 03 23:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Geek Reading Thursday night: an all-ages event, but we're hosting beer&wine for those over 21! https://eff.org/r.5We | Apr 03 23:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Geek Reading: An Evening with Ahmed Al Omran | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 28.15 KB | Apr 03 23:35 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbv9L-WIu0s#t=37m45s | Apr 03 23:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bloat: How and Why UNIX Grew Up (and Out) - Rusty Russell,Matt Evans - YouTube .::. Size~: 119.41 KB | Apr 03 23:45 |
| scientes | hahaha | Apr 03 23:45 |
| oiaohm | Good watch in fact | Apr 03 23:48 |
| scientes | a few of those features are cool | Apr 03 23:52 |
| scientes | like i reported the lack of tail -f using inotail | Apr 03 23:52 |
| scientes | and it got fixed | Apr 03 23:52 |
| scientes | but there is a shitload of features in coreutils | Apr 03 23:52 |
| scientes | like if /usr/bin isn't in your path it will check it anyways, and give you a helpful message | Apr 03 23:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: New Egyptian VP Ran Mubarak's Security Team, Oversaw Torture (February 2011). #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/LwOoHd6l | Apr 03 23:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Egypt in Crisis: Omar Suleiman and CIA Rendition - ABC News .::. Size~: 87.18 KB | Apr 03 23:53 |
| scientes | oiaohm, so clearly we need to do elf reordering to put those lesser-used features in their own section | Apr 03 23:55 |
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