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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Per #Wikileaks: Omar Suleiman Is Israel's Preferred Successor To Mubarak. (February 2011). #Cablegate http://t.co/KzgOmOVXApr 04 00:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] want to work with CC in Africa and Asia-Pacific? New positions for community managers open now http://ur1.ca/8wfhyApr 04 00:16
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scientesthe uEFI talk let me realize what a mess secure boot isApr 04 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The dangerous UK proposal that would allow monitoring of every email, text, and phone call in the country: https://eff.org/r.W86Apr 04 00:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK Government Proposes Law Monitoring Every Email, Phone Call, and Text Message | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 36.26 KBApr 04 00:36
prurigroscientes, oh man- uEFI makes me shudderApr 04 00:38
scientesprurigro, did you hear that the secureboot is so based on windows driver signing that the structs have "WIN" in them?Apr 04 00:43
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oiaohmscientes: really secureboot gets completely stupid.Apr 04 00:46
scientesits just trying to make it a PITA for people to install linux on their machine for the first timeApr 04 00:47
scientesthat is all it isApr 04 00:47
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scientesits trying to make them feel unconfortableApr 04 00:47
scientesdoing soApr 04 00:47
scientesother than that, it doesn't succeed at anythingApr 04 00:47
oiaohmscientes: Really you are not thinking far enough.Apr 04 00:47
prurigroscientes, haha that's pretty funny-- uefi was bad enough without freakin' secure bootApr 04 00:48
scienteswell its not really a security featureApr 04 00:48
oiaohmscientes: it also makes it painful for anyone wanting to upgrade to a new version of Windows as well.Apr 04 00:48
scientesoiaohm, upgrade treadmillApr 04 00:48
scientesheres the vid from a redhat engineer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aq5M3Q76U&feature=relatedApr 04 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFI and Linux: the future is here, and it's awful - Matthew Garrett       - YouTube .::. Size~: 131.46 KBApr 04 00:48
prurigroit is if you consider linux a security threat to your business ;)Apr 04 00:48
oiaohmYep I know that video.Apr 04 00:49
oiaohmprurigro: TPM lock blocks all non approved OS'sApr 04 00:49
oiaohmYou don't need secure EFI to prevent OS's from running.Apr 04 00:49
oiaohmI also know Mathew GarrettApr 04 00:49
oiaohmI was really shocked to see him in that video because that was not his normal chipper self.Apr 04 00:50
oiaohmIe had not seen him for 12 months.Apr 04 00:50
oiaohmits kinda taken a lot out of him.Apr 04 00:50
prurigrooiaohm, TPM?Apr 04 00:51
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oiaohmTrusted Platform ModuleApr 04 01:02
oiaohmParticularly when that evil is built into the cpu.Apr 04 01:02
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oiaohmprurigro: Linux does have full support for using TPM in 3.4.0  Right down to read only filesystem checked against TPM that it has not been tampered with.Apr 04 01:05
oiaohmprurigro: Yes OS's are getting more able to lock owners out.Apr 04 01:06
prurigrooh get out-- that's pretty snazzyApr 04 01:06
prurigrounless its meant more to enforce via things like android than become compatibleApr 04 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Read This First Before You Decide That #Preppers Are Crazy http://goo.gl/vqn15Apr 04 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Why we should press the reset button on ISPs' six-strikes graduated response deal - Users need a seat at the table https://eff.org/r.3W9Apr 04 01:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Read This First Before You Decide That Preppers Are Crazy .::. Size~: 103.02 KBApr 04 01:06
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schestowitzhey kevinApr 04 01:06
prurigroschestowitz, hey Roy- how goes?Apr 04 01:07
oiaohmprurigro: remember andorid and mainline linux kenerl are in the process of becoming one.Apr 04 01:07
schestowitzbeen speaking to the missus for 5 hoursApr 04 01:07
prurigrooiaohm, this is very true-- could mean good things, could mean bad things... I suppose time will tell eh?Apr 04 01:08
prurigroschestowitz, oh? that's a lengthy convo-- about anything in particular?Apr 04 01:08
oiaohmprurigro: it brings a lot of good and bad.Apr 04 01:08
oiaohmprurigro: power management issues and other bad kernel items against desktop usage are being fixed.Apr 04 01:09
prurigrooiaohm, I suppose it would be naive to think it would only bring one or the other wouldn't it?Apr 04 01:09
oiaohmTPM does have its valid use.Apr 04 01:09
scientes<prurigro> it is if you consider linux a security threat to your business ;)Apr 04 01:09
prurigrooiaohm, power management has been pretty top notch for all I've used linux on for a number of years nowApr 04 01:09
oiaohmKey thing is the if owner of machine can override it.Apr 04 01:09
scientesTPM are also evil, and they happen to be illegal in a number of countriesApr 04 01:09
oiaohmprurigro: really no power management in linux still sux badly it lacking lots of key options.Apr 04 01:10
scientes<oiaohm> prurigro: remember andorid and mainline linux kenerl are in the process of becoming one.Apr 04 01:10
scientes3.3 can boot android userspaceApr 04 01:10
oiaohmscientes: the type users control of TPM is legal everywhere.Apr 04 01:10
prurigromaybe its not as robust then? I'm not typically a fan of too much in that direction as it can start to get in the wayApr 04 01:10
scientesi, for one, am not a fan of TPMApr 04 01:11
scientesi was more interested in secure boot actually until i realize how FAIL it was in implamentationApr 04 01:11
oiaohmscientes: for virus control and prevention I can see good use of TPM.Apr 04 01:11
oiaohmscientes: but TPM that is not owners of the machine to control is pure evil.Apr 04 01:11
prurigroI feel like virus control could have been handled at a slightly higher level, for those needlessly exposing themselves :)Apr 04 01:12
scientesoiaohm, exactlyApr 04 01:12
oiaohmIBM never designed TPM with the idea that the owner of machine would not control it.Apr 04 01:12
oiaohmIe TPM is really two forms.Apr 04 01:12
oiaohmOne owner of the machine has full rights over it.  This I have no problems with.Apr 04 01:12
oiaohmOne some third party has control.   This should be forbin.Apr 04 01:12
scientesoiaohm, "IBM never designed tabulating machine for usefulness in burning up jews and gypsies"Apr 04 01:13
oiaohmscientes:  Tech always ends up using in ways you don't plan.Apr 04 01:14
prurigrohttp://www.tgdaily.com/opinion-features/53108-analysis-intel-to-introduce-processor-with-remote-kill-switchApr 04 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intel to introduce processor with remote kill switch | TG Daily .::. Size~: 41.2 KBApr 04 01:14
scientesoiaohm, why can't you do what you want with a smart card instead?Apr 04 01:14
oiaohmprurigro: power management side items lacking include means to clock down hardware to save power.Apr 04 01:14
oiaohmprurigro: ie current lInux power management is a little bit of a sledgehammer.Apr 04 01:15
prurigroword, the intel atom processor has pretty good support afaikApr 04 01:15
prurigrothough I had to hack it in to some extent when I was using itApr 04 01:15
oiaohmprurigro: in fact there are features in the atom Linux does not have the interfaces to control yet.Apr 04 01:15
oiaohmThat will make it even better.Apr 04 01:15
prurigroahh true-- I was basically setting numeric values in an acpi script to get it working like it does on windowsApr 04 01:16
prurigrothough I assume there's more to it if the kernel gained additional supportApr 04 01:16
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oiaohmprurigro: there are other features not even exposed to acpi.Apr 04 01:18
prurigrointerestingApr 04 01:18
oiaohmHmm remote cpu disabling.Apr 04 01:18
oiaohmThat now makes allwinner a10s and latter from china look like  very good idea.Apr 04 01:19
prurigrotbh though-- I got like ~7 hours on powersave mode in windows for the one day before i had time to install linux on my most recent laptop (with atom), and with no powersaving at all I get a bit more than 6 hoursApr 04 01:19
prurigrowithout all the annoying waiting for the computer to realize I want to use itApr 04 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nice. Good to know. http://ur1.ca/8wfy6Apr 04 01:19
oiaohmPeople froget in the iraq war USA goverment had mcirosoft send out a computer disabling patch.Apr 04 01:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vitor Domingos - Google+ - "Apple can potentially decrypt and access all data stored… .::. Size~: 89.59 KBApr 04 01:20
prurigrowhat's a10s?Apr 04 01:20
prurigroand no kiddingApr 04 01:20
oiaohmprurigro: arm based processor for about 15 dollars.Apr 04 01:20
oiaohmprurigro: with built in graphics card.Apr 04 01:20
oiaohmand by design cannot be locked against firmware replacement.Apr 04 01:20
scientesthat apple marks up 10XApr 04 01:20
scientes<oiaohm> Hmm remote cpu disabling.Apr 04 01:21
scienteslook into intel's insane out-of-band stuffApr 04 01:21
prurigroahh get out-- is that what they use in the raspberry pie?Apr 04 01:21
scientes#1 reason why coreboot is neccicary IMHOApr 04 01:21
oiaohmprurigro: raspberry pie uses a broadcom since the developers behind that are broadcom staff.Apr 04 01:21
oiaohmprurigro: also has closed source video card drivers.Apr 04 01:22
oiaohmWhere the allwinner a10 is open spec everything.Apr 04 01:22
oiaohmAllwinner A10 just the chip no board/ram is under 7 USD>Apr 04 01:22
oiaohmAlso runs at 1.5 ghzApr 04 01:22
oiaohmWhere respberry pi is barely 700 mhz.Apr 04 01:23
prurigroahh hmmApr 04 01:24
oiaohmAllwinner designed in is insert usb on to particular portApr 04 01:24
prurigrosounds like the a10s could use a more marketable nameApr 04 01:24
prurigroI mean, it seems like a better product based on what you sayApr 04 01:24
oiaohmAnd the allwinner chip disregards the include firmware completely.Apr 04 01:24
oiaohmprurigro: a10 is better than its first chinesse name.Apr 04 01:25
prurigrohaha, I don't doubt itApr 04 01:26
oiaohmprurigro: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ prototypes will come.Apr 04 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: allwinner a10 .::. Size~: 6.75 KBApr 04 01:26
prurigrostill though-- it seems like they could tap into a bit of the rbp hypeApr 04 01:26
scientes<oiaohm> prurigro: also has closed source video card drivers.Apr 04 01:26
scientestrueApr 04 01:26
oiaohmprurigro: rbp is in production hell.Apr 04 01:27
oiaohmprurigro: no one ever guessed demard would be so high.Apr 04 01:27
scientessheevaplug had the same experienceApr 04 01:28
scienteshowever that platform is actually 100% freeApr 04 01:28
prurigroI coulda guessed itApr 04 01:28
prurigrothe number of people I personally talked to about how much they wanted to get one was more than almost any other product I've heard aboutApr 04 01:28
oiaohmprurigro: demard is that high that rbp that it cannot go out as a prototype board any more.Apr 04 01:29
prurigroextrapolate that across the massesApr 04 01:29
oiaohmBut has to go out as consumer electrical.Apr 04 01:29
oiaohmNow that brings another stack of regulations in.Apr 04 01:29
prurigrodoes that change legal stuff?Apr 04 01:29
prurigrodamnApr 04 01:29
oiaohmLooks like there was nothing wrong in the rbp design preventing consumer electricication.Apr 04 01:30
oiaohmOther than its shipped without a case.Apr 04 01:30
oiaohmYes the consumer electrical is going to cause the stupid.Apr 04 01:30
oiaohmWhere there is a model with a case and everyone is buying the spare parts.Apr 04 01:31
prurigroack-- man, technology is so fun, and then lawyers get involvedApr 04 01:31
prurigrolol 'spare parts'?Apr 04 01:31
prurigrodo you actually need to ship a case if your product is too popular?Apr 04 01:31
oiaohmSadly yes. you do need to ship a case if your product is going to get too popularApr 04 01:32
oiaohmAnd is shipped assembled.Apr 04 01:32
scienteshahahaApr 04 01:32
scienteswhat insanityApr 04 01:32
oiaohmGets worse scientesApr 04 01:33
oiaohmThe fully assembled product has to pass consumer safty requirements.Apr 04 01:33
oiaohmAlso has to pass that it does not broad cast too much RF.Apr 04 01:34
oiaohmWhen inside case.Apr 04 01:34
prurigroman, that's ridiculousApr 04 01:35
prurigroUS only?Apr 04 01:35
oiaohmNo its international.Apr 04 01:36
oiaohmCE certification you now that CE mark you see on almost everything.Apr 04 01:37
oiaohmIts about being radio safe and otherwise not trouble making when in a house.Apr 04 01:37
oiaohmPrototype boards are allow to be a little dispicable because they are believe there will not be enough volume of them to cause any problems.Apr 04 01:38
oiaohmWhen you look like you are going to cross 100 000 units shipped in a year they get a little sus that its might be a high volume item out there.Apr 04 01:38
oiaohmWhen you look like 500 000 units shipped is possible CE is mandorary.Apr 04 01:39
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oiaohmSo basically rbp is a victom of its own success 10 000 units selling in a few mins kinda got regularoters worried.Apr 04 01:40
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prurigrodamn, that's pretty lameApr 04 01:46
prurigroanother reason to enjoy software dev > hardwareApr 04 01:46
oiaohmThe regulation does make sense.Apr 04 01:46
oiaohmPrototype board if you jam a radio station or a tv up to about 5 meters its legal.Apr 04 01:47
oiaohmPrototype board requires are down right sloppy.Apr 04 01:47
prurigroman, everything seems to hit radio frequenciesApr 04 01:47
prurigroalmost every traffic light in the city I live in jams my fm transmitterApr 04 01:47
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prurigroand for some reason, there's this getto hamlet area that's just jammed everywhereApr 04 01:48
oiaohmfm transmitter is not allowed huge strenth.Apr 04 01:49
oiaohmwifi transmitter is allowed more.Apr 04 01:49
oiaohmJust think about it no CE rules you turn a light on and you tv no longer has signal.Apr 04 01:49
oiaohmprurigro: wonder if your traffic lights are radio controlled.Apr 04 01:52
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oiaohmprurigro: some citys are really sporting if you happen to transmit on the wrong freq.Apr 04 01:54
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scientesoiaohm, mirt FTWApr 04 01:59
oiaohmscientes: best I saw as red green and yellow lights displayed on the same side.Apr 04 02:03
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schestowitzgn chumsApr 04 02:04
prurigroschestowitz, night yoApr 04 02:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken Hoera! ;) Ik neem dan eens een boek mee volgende weekApr 04 02:23
scientesdoes anyone know of a youtube flash video **zero-copy** downloader?Apr 04 02:28
scientesi can copy from the flash processes file descriptorsApr 04 02:28
scientesbut that is annoying cause i have to find out which PID it is, and then figure out which is the video i want, and then relable itApr 04 02:28
scientesand AFIK all the plugins and downlaoders require you to download it again, which is just stupidApr 04 02:29
DaemonFCit would be nice if video download helper would download flash videos even if you didn't have Flash installedApr 04 02:29
DaemonFCwithout Flash, it doesn't do much of anythingApr 04 02:29
scientesthats cause its using flash to get the urlApr 04 02:30
scientesbut i want like a --reflink with btrfsApr 04 02:30
scientesso its truely zero-copyApr 04 02:30
scientesactually hard linkApr 04 02:31
prurigroscientes, like youtube-dl?Apr 04 02:39
prurigroyou can specify which encoding you want-- anything you can stream is available as an option, and it downloads in that formatApr 04 02:40
prurigrocli utilApr 04 02:40
scientesyeah but it has to download it twiceApr 04 02:42
scientesif you also use the web interfaceApr 04 02:42
scientesi guess i could just use itApr 04 02:42
scientescause you CAN watch the video while it is being downloaded, it does dl liniarlyApr 04 02:42
scientesbut seriously oiaohm is totally fucking wrongApr 04 03:10
scientesabout TPM + IBMApr 04 03:10
scientesIBM is not for youApr 04 03:10
prurigrowhy not just skip viewing it in the browser altogetherApr 04 03:20
prurigro?Apr 04 03:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] missing !fsf :-( ♻ @glynmoody: Red Hat donates $100,000 to "the future of open source" - http://bit.ly/HQpuFv #cc #eff #sflc #unicefApr 04 03:31
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DaemonFCit's all about websites wanting to take control away from the viewerApr 04 03:36
DaemonFCand so they do funny things like use Flash or obscure the video linkApr 04 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @gabrielsaldana: ... woman talking to her son that modding the Xbox is wrong, sad thing to hear how hacking your own hw is wrong nowApr 04 03:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] I wish all self-proclaimed open-source activists would realize that, and stand for users' freedoms rather than business wish€$Apr 04 04:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Red Hat donates $100,000 to "the future of open source" - http://bit.ly/HQpuFv good to see #cc #eff #sflc #unicefApr 04 04:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] examine the "Uniqueness of Humanity" with @larryrusswurm http://ur1.ca/8wgvj #humourApr 04 05:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to #Queen "Teo Torriatte (D*mn the boy could sing ~ missing Freddie) http://www.ur1.ca/8wi2uApr 04 05:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ...ha... seems I knew a bit of Japanese ("Teo Torriatte") before I even *had* my manga loving offspring ;D #momsknowthedarndestthingsApr 04 05:32
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxWuaozpe2I&feature=relmfuApr 04 05:50
scientes"a system with 4TB or ram"Apr 04 05:50
scienteslolApr 04 05:50
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scientesWTF, that linux guy is using OSXApr 04 06:00
formic_wasn't he oracle?Apr 04 06:01
formic_kevin mitnick uses osx as far as I can tellApr 04 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Do you think open source is changing the world? Tell us how... http://ow.ly/a49VXApr 04 06:02
scientesyes he doesApr 04 06:02
formic_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lamo-Mitnick-Poulsen.pngApr 04 06:04
formic_:)Apr 04 06:04
formic_Kevin is my heroApr 04 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good evening @bavatarApr 04 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Spent some time today listening to http://identi.ca/url/68638521 was not disappointed.Apr 04 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] "So if you like a band with a chick singer, say your cup of tea is a wall of trombones."Apr 04 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] "Do you sing like Olive Oyl on purpose? (No) You guys must be into the Eurythmics? (No)"Apr 04 06:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] "This song is dedicated to all you modern day troubadours out there, and I think I know who you are..."Apr 04 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] "Well I ain't feelin' happy, about the state of things in my life. But I'm workin' to make it better, with a six of Miller High Life"Apr 04 06:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Amazingly -- http://identi.ca/url/68638561 is a real job.Apr 04 06:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Picked up a bunch of new comics today, but failed to try @grassfedjp - far too many people not really doing things in the place, no take outApr 04 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] So cool -- http://identi.ca/url/68638625Apr 04 06:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Check out this Ubuntu Accomplishments update, packed with screenshots and project updates - http://is.gd/izqQRt #ubuntuApr 04 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sounds reasonable to me: Ontario Budget 2012: NDP Wants New Tax For Income Over $500,000 http://www.ur1.ca/8wj5p #timetostarttaxingtherichApr 04 06:22
scienteshey oia DMANApr 04 06:23
scienteswhere do i buy a low-price A10 comp?Apr 04 06:23
scientessomethin glike the piApr 04 06:23
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MinceR032718 < scientes> does anyone know of a youtube flash video **zero-copy** downloader?Apr 04 06:31
MinceRbut what if it hasn't downloaded the entire file yet?Apr 04 06:31
scientesMinceR, i had a big discussion in #kernelnewbiesApr 04 06:31
scientesabout how you cant hard link to a file that doesn't have any on-disk file discriptionsApr 04 06:32
scientes*discriptorsApr 04 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: = making it easier to access legal content wherever you are in Europe @disney @iTunes http://p.ost.im/p/eqJSPRApr 04 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @corshamresident I do! http://p.ost.im/p/eqRGtyApr 04 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Especially confusing as "Nellie" Kroes is this guy: http://t.co/upGh0No8 .Wonder if ther http://p.ost.im/p/eVWUdgApr 04 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Happy to open the #EIPAHA12 conference this morning with my speech: http://t.co/EAAU0krq http://p.ost.im/p/eqhnDPApr 04 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Great to hear @disney commitment to provide multi-language films in Eur on @iTunes (3 la http://p.ost.im/p/eqhxwSApr 04 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Noticed how many people think my name is "Nellie". For ref, "Neelie" more or less rhymes http://p.ost.im/p/eqLdQeApr 04 06:32
scientesbut only a descriptionApr 04 06:32
MinceR:)Apr 04 06:32
scientesso the best thoughts we had was LD_PRELOAD to turn unlink() into a noopApr 04 06:33
scientesor to patrace, catch the file creation, SIGSTOP, hard link, and then continueApr 04 06:33
MinceRalso, clive and/or youtube-dl might be able to get the file without using TrashApr 04 06:34
scientesyeah, but those download it twice, if you are already viewing it in flashApr 04 06:34
scientesthats what i meant by no-copyApr 04 06:34
formic_https://encrypted.google.com/Apr 04 06:35
formic_usable on TORApr 04 06:35
*scientes uses https everywhereApr 04 06:38
scienteseff firefox add-onApr 04 06:38
*scientes should turn on firefox SPDY for the NPN speed gainsApr 04 06:39
*scientes boom! doneApr 04 06:39
scientesnetwork.http.spdy.enabledApr 04 06:39
formic_SPDY :)Apr 04 06:41
scientesNPN is really the main gainApr 04 06:42
scientes(IMHO)Apr 04 06:42
formic_NPH is the bestApr 04 06:45
MinceRwhat's NPN and NPH?Apr 04 06:45
formic_You don't know NPH?Apr 04 06:45
formic_NPH is the shitApr 04 06:46
scientesand TLAApr 04 06:46
formic_http://youtu.be/NjSi3-jITKwApr 04 06:46
scientesTLA is amazing!Apr 04 06:47
formic_NPH is betterApr 04 06:48
scientesvideo isn't loading for meApr 04 06:49
formic_#failApr 04 06:49
scientesnot even redirectingApr 04 06:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Wow! just ... wow! http://ur1.ca/8wjui /cc @RamanusAsango @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai #appleApr 04 07:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] On the Orwellian UK government proposal to monitor every email, text, and phone call in the country: https://eff.org/r.W86Apr 04 07:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @1111aether Sounds fair.We have poor taxes like food handers certifications etc. min.wage workers have to cough up for just to work a ...Apr 04 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] live radio on http://ur1.ca/8wk1r is broken? Can't listen to it on FF and Chrome (running on Fedora). Mediacorp, a subsidiary of MSFT. #fbApr 04 08:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] well, the money is still going to good causesApr 04 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzaf & goodnight, !identiverseApr 04 08:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1487436Apr 04 08:37
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1487436Apr 04 08:38
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Incredible art made with open-source weather data  http://boingboing.net/2012/04/02/incredible-art-made-with-open.html #opendata #artApr 04 08:38
schestowitz"That made my day. No joke. :-)"Apr 04 08:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1486940Apr 04 08:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu's HUD: Light-years beyond any menu system http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntus-hud-light-years-beyond-any-menu-system/3535 #ubuntu #gnu #linux #hudApr 04 08:38
schestowitz"Erm, I'm a KDE fan boy, but Krunner doesn't touch *any* of the menu system in apps... "Apr 04 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CentOS Desktop http://ur1.ca/8wk7p #redhat #centosApr 04 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who Are the 'Unkown' Linux Kernel Developers? http://ur1.ca/8wk85 #linux #kernelApr 04 08:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How is Linux Built? Our new report and video. http://ur1.ca/8wk8n http://ur1.ca/8whm6 #linuxApr 04 08:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How is Linux Built? Our new report and video.  | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 37.54 KBApr 04 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMP 2.8.0-RC1: 1st release candidate now available http://ur1.ca/8wk95 one of my favourite programs, ever. #gnu #gtk #graphicsApr 04 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What DEFT brings to the table http://ur1.ca/8wk9m #deft #gnu #linuxApr 04 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux boss: We're number one where it counts http://ur1.ca/8wk9u Like a boss. #linuxApr 04 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Exclusive: Much Awaited Game Client Finally Running Natively on Linux http://ur1.ca/8wkaa #gaming #gnu #linuxApr 04 09:00
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schestowitzmorning allApr 04 09:03
schestowitzLots of good Linux news todayApr 04 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kubuntu Active 12.04 beta 2 screen shots http://ur1.ca/8wkaq #kubuntu #ubuntu #kdeApr 04 09:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 problems with Ubuntu 12.04 part 1: Unity Dash usability issues http://ur1.ca/8wkb2 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxApr 04 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Now for the PI Manifesto - http://ur1.ca/8wkc1 #fb #inApr 04 09:07
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MinceRj0Apr 04 09:08
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uoum-DHO7S8&feature=relatedApr 04 09:14
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scientesm12s30Apr 04 09:15
scientes"redhat doesn't work for the goals of open source"Apr 04 09:15
scienteswhat a bunch of bunkApr 04 09:15
scientesredhat does amazing stuffApr 04 09:15
scientesthey are 10X better as anyone else at things like pushing nouveau development over accepting binary blobsApr 04 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] elementary GTK Theme 3.0 Released http://ur1.ca/8wkdy #gtkApr 04 09:17
scientesi see then as the clear biggest entity is FOSS development and progress , if you are looking at an entity levelApr 04 09:17
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scientesthat guy is a trollApr 04 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNOME 3.4 Live CD Available for Download Now http://ur1.ca/8wke3 #gnome #gnu #linuxApr 04 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slideshow: Live from Collaboration Summit http://ur1.ca/8wkex #linux #kernelApr 04 09:22
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scientesyou dont make progress by flat-out attacks on organizations (even for-profit businesses) that in general are on your sideApr 04 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Linux Talks to the Internet of Things: A Look at IEEE 802.15.4 http://ur1.ca/8wkfi #linuxApr 04 09:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can An ARM-Based Supercomputer Become the World’s Fastest? http://ur1.ca/8wkg2 #server #arm #linuxApr 04 09:25
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scientesas far as i can see, canonical's approach has always been "lets get in the hot patch of people's discovery of a huge amount of easily accessable software"Apr 04 09:29
scientes"and then manipulate that for a profit"Apr 04 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Will Adobe classify #Trash Player as "malware"? http://ur1.ca/8wkgjApr 04 09:30
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scientesand in doing so, they take shortcuts instead of doing development; like their cruddy Ubuntu on android, and fact that they dont say what license software is licensed under in the software-centerApr 04 09:31
scientesUbuntu DOESN"T WANT people to think about their freedomsApr 04 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Creative Commons 4.0 draft open for public comment http://ur1.ca/8wkh3 #cc #sharingApr 04 09:32
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scientestheir whole approach is to make the system more approachable to naieve users, even at the expense of long-term direction, i.e. propritary drivers, little development of the kernelApr 04 09:32
scientesand then steal the name, and make users consider it all "ubuntu"Apr 04 09:32
scientesgranted, live CD install is really the way to goApr 04 09:33
scientesthere is just so much about it that is better, even though it might not fit all use casesApr 04 09:33
schestowitzcould be worseApr 04 09:38
schestowitzcould be linspire or xandrosApr 04 09:39
schestowitz[09:17] <scientes> that guy is a trollApr 04 09:39
schestowitzPerens?Apr 04 09:39
scientesim rethinking as i watch moreApr 04 09:39
*scientes had a similar though when reading the lwn article on this talkApr 04 09:40
scienteshe obviously has done alot, like busybox devApr 04 09:40
schestowitzyou realise who he is, right?Apr 04 09:40
*scientes ended up installing ubuntu on alot of machines cause of debian's lack of installable livecd back in the dayApr 04 09:40
scientesalso, there was one specific gnome2 usability bug that my mom got hit by, that wasn't present in ubuntuApr 04 09:41
scientesbut not with unity, which IMHO just ain't the futureApr 04 09:41
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/rrmu3/osadl_experimentally_analyses_linuxs_realtime/Apr 04 09:41
schestowitz"Apr 04 09:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OSADL experimentally analyses Linux's real-time capabilities : linux .::. Size~: 44.11 KBApr 04 09:41
schestowitzWhat latencies do these measure?Apr 04 09:41
schestowitzWhat is the downside of using realtime kernel, since if there was none, why are all computers using these?Apr 04 09:41
schestowitz"Apr 04 09:41
*scientes feels more like migrating out of ubuntuApr 04 09:41
schestowitzprens was debian managerApr 04 09:41
scienteshahahaha, he isn't familiar with classic throughput vs. latency tradeoffApr 04 09:42
schestowitzperens was also being the Open Source definition (OSD)Apr 04 09:42
scientesinteresting, he definitely embodies the DFSG OSD baseApr 04 09:42
scientesinstead of its later perversion (which RMS saw from the beginning)Apr 04 09:42
schestowitzOMGOSSApr 04 09:43
MinceRafaik Perens still says that open source is supposed to be a way to sell the idea of free software to suits :>Apr 04 09:43
*scientes has been using gpsd, which happens to be maintained by THE Eric S RaymondApr 04 09:43
MinceR:)Apr 04 09:43
scienteswhat I use with people, is the analogy of a car where you can open it up and repair it, vs. one where the hood is locked down, and you are forced to take it to the dealerApr 04 09:44
scientesbut even that doesn't really get a number of important detailsApr 04 09:44
scienteslike the fact that you cant remove functionality from a computerApr 04 09:45
scientesbut you can clearly remove functionality from a mechanical objectApr 04 09:45
scientesor that manufactureing the computer cars is free  and instant :PApr 04 09:45
scientesone thing he DOES say, which i believe, is about how microsoft is irrelevent on a platform/society basisApr 04 09:46
scientescompared to apple and androidApr 04 09:46
scientes(doesn't mean that secureboot is done and over)Apr 04 09:47
scientesI mean, I switched, cause i was sensible enough to realize that if vista sucked, and computers are a moving target, that microsoft was clearly not a train to be onApr 04 09:48
scientesI was thinking of patching git to add the ability to sign the HEAD sha1's in the git protocolApr 04 09:51
scienteswith a https certificateApr 04 09:51
scientescause otherwise, its a MITM waiting to happenApr 04 09:51
scientesit will be noticed when the next signed tag comes through....but that is too late considering people install and run this stuffApr 04 09:52
scienteswhat do you guys thing?Apr 04 09:52
MinceRhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-Tycoon-lets-players-manage-a-Linux-distribution-1500439.htmlApr 04 09:59
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scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_programmable_logic_deviceApr 04 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Can anyone recommend a #freesoftware mail client for Android that handles threading, sender profiles? #emailforgrownupsApr 04 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] well, the money is still going to good causesApr 04 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Quilting's Legal Battles Can Teach Us About #Copyright - http://bit.ly/Hc1j7E it's getting nasty in the world of #quiltingApr 04 10:19
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scienteshttp://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdrApr 04 10:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #openaccess does not "harm" publishers' rights - here's why - http://bit.ly/HdJSmc debunking the lies (v @researchremix)Apr 04 10:24
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scientesI don't get what the "MS/s" unit isApr 04 10:24
scientescause CD sound is like 44 khzApr 04 10:24
scientesso it seems unreasonable that is would be 100X better than thatApr 04 10:24
scientesyet an author of some GNU radio software said the sample rate is not enough for ATSC DTVApr 04 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spanish ‘SOPA’: 79 Site Takedown Requests in First Month - http://bit.ly/HL08f4 I'm sure they'll prove as bogus as #hadopi #leysindeApr 04 10:27
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/NfAwh.pngApr 04 10:44
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scientesMinceR, NICEApr 04 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Canonical guy at event tells us Ubuntu is used in 240 countries. My short research tells me this planet has 196 countr... http://b1t.it/bg6TApr 04 11:17
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scienteshahaApr 04 11:19
scientesthe 196 is the CIA number at first guessApr 04 11:19
Diablo-D3well, obama campaigned in 59 states didnt he?Apr 04 11:19
scientesDiablo-D3, he also warrently wiretaps/spies in 59 states :PApr 04 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stream of consciousness blather - http://bit.ly/HduN0f delightful: "suppressing cough unblocking bowel movement busy with a hundred things"Apr 04 11:20
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Diablo-D3scientes: missed the point, you didApr 04 11:21
scientesthe numbers are obviously uselessApr 04 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Some problems with our queue server; I've just reduced the load on it but I'll set up a new one to offload work this afternoon.Apr 04 11:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1488847Apr 04 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux boss: We're number one where it counts http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/04/linux_boss_number_one/ Like a boss. #linuxApr 04 12:03
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schestowitz""He praised the work of the Open Invention Network, which sets a patent no-fly zone as its base point, and said this was proving attractive to developers looking to avoid being dragged through the courts." ;)"Apr 04 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's mostly the queue server.Apr 04 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Sure!Apr 04 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Not necessary, thanks!Apr 04 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stream of consciousness blather - http://bit.ly/HduN0f delightful: "suppressing cough unblocking bowel movement busy with a hundred things"Apr 04 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] well, the money is still going to good causesApr 04 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What Quilting's Legal Battles Can Teach Us About #Copyright - http://bit.ly/Hc1j7E it's getting nasty in the world of #quiltingApr 04 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #openaccess does not "harm" publishers' rights - here's why - http://bit.ly/HdJSmc debunking the lies (v @researchremix)Apr 04 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spanish ‘SOPA’: 79 Site Takedown Requests in First Month - http://bit.ly/HL08f4 I'm sure they'll prove as bogus as #hadopi #leysindeApr 04 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mapping Digital Media: The Media and Liability for Content on the Internet - http://bit.ly/HTqh8p dry but usefulApr 04 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mammoth carcass found in Siberia - http://bbc.in/He38Ng poor thing; amazing, thoughApr 04 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Extremadura overhauls IT to save millions and to increase #opensource - http://bit.ly/HOhynK big success story #esApr 04 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK net super-snooping clashes with Euro privacy law - expert - http://bit.ly/HTp2JQ another reason to bin it #CCDBApr 04 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ORGCon 2012: how to lobby your MP - http://bit.ly/HJMyKp good practical advice #ukApr 04 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 38degrees anti-#CCDB epetition now up to 78K in less than a day - let's take it to 100K – http://bit.ly/HhF9jjApr 04 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Can Copyleft Clouds Find Contributors? - http://rww.to/HfyMuU interesting pointApr 04 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #smartphone Wars: Finally, Android breaks 50% - http://bit.ly/HkSkzm eric tells it as it isApr 04 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma @airtel launches services in !Rwanda http://ur1.ca/8wlxm ( via @techmtaa ) /cc @netivity @kelzOKOApr 04 12:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] #FSFEs Newsletter for April 2012 now online: http://ur1.ca/8wm2b !fsfe !fs !gnuApr 04 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] criminal offence to conduct a cyber attack would be better suited to the #UN http://goo.gl/QmyLx most of their members do it dailyApr 04 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @fsfe #FSFEs Newsletter for April 2012 now online: http://ur1.ca/8wm2b !fsfe !fs !gnuApr 04 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Portal e e-mails do governo não estão a funcionar - Exame Informática http://goo.gl/HSdj7 enquanto isso em Munique http://goo.gl/bzXfwApr 04 13:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeedApr 04 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] no, but the UK government will probably arrest you later on...Apr 04 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Survey: Open source procurement costs less and reduces vendor lock-in - http://bit.ly/HSEcOf no, really?Apr 04 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] De Gucht calls for an EU-ASEAN FTA - http://bit.ly/Hk8aLc clearly wants his own #TPPApr 04 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tor traffic disguised as Skype video calls to fool repressive governments - http://bit.ly/H87I0i er, that would be the UK, presumablyApr 04 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Gerald Celente - New World Order In 2012 - The Decline Of Empire America - YouTube http://goo.gl/18H9f #collapseApr 04 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] O Bar do Alcides: Cavaco Silva: GRANDE BRONCA! http://goo.gl/eOdUi documentos comprometedores? #bpnApr 04 13:22
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schestowitzhey TuxTuxApr 04 13:27
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XFaCEhttp://torrentfreak.com/new-xbox-drm-will-require-always-on-internet-120402/Apr 04 13:28
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schestowitzthese always fail badlyApr 04 13:28
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schestowitzno connection, no playApr 04 13:29
XFaCEyepApr 04 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Wir haben doch schon überall dort Transparenz" - http://bit.ly/HK1bx9 what an utter idiot (v @netzpolitik)Apr 04 13:30
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XFaCEschestowitz: I bet the people in rural Canada will be ecstaticApr 04 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "111 Gründe, #London zu lieben" - http://bit.ly/HZHaQs sehr nettApr 04 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Parliament must protect the public’s privacy - http://tgr.ph/HkURts well-argued piece by tory mp #CCDPApr 04 13:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Comments submmitted in Consultation on #Spain's draft Access to Information Law - http://bit.ly/HfAo7S "substandard"Apr 04 13:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "111 Gründe, London zu lieben": Traumstadt mit Tourette-Syndrom - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Reise .::. Size~: 61.32 KBApr 04 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mario Soares em carro a mais de 190 Km/Hora - Mário Soares estava em serviço do PS ou de quê? http://goo.gl/yFKuA #poucavergonha #ptApr 04 13:37
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TuxTuxHey guysApr 04 13:40
TuxTuxdo you know what's going on with suse?Apr 04 13:40
*MinceR shrugsApr 04 13:40
TuxTuxim currently using opensuse and i'm think about switching to arch or sabayon because of all this microsoft thing and attachmate...Apr 04 13:41
schestowitztry debianApr 04 13:47
schestowitzor if you're with KDE, maybe ChakraApr 04 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 2600 Volume 1 released as a DRM-free ebook: phreak like its 1984 http://ping.fm/NnMVMApr 04 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Confusion over warrants, surveillance powers and the intrusiveness of traffic data - http://bit.ly/HU6p53 excellent post #CCDPApr 04 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] CCDP: What we know - http://bit.ly/HpdFnb good summary of what we might be comingApr 04 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stream of consciousness blather - http://bit.ly/HduN0f delightful: "suppressing cough unblocking bowel movement busy with a hundred things"Apr 04 13:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opening Pandora’s box: secret treaty threatens human rights - http://bit.ly/HdXXkU good to see this in #AU (v @StopActaNow)#ACTAApr 04 13:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Can Copyleft Clouds Find Contributors? http://ping.fm/NkqXeApr 04 13:50
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MinceRor try fedoraApr 04 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe #FSFEs Newsletter for April 2012 now online: http://ur1.ca/8wm2b !fsfe !fs !gnuApr 04 13:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How to make your Company and Products thrive in an Age of Cooperation - http://bit.ly/HfRqmz lots of nice diagrams too #p2pApr 04 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government's 'secret' court evidence plan rejected - http://bit.ly/HdQTnd more stupid ideas from UK government #policestateApr 04 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Submission to the All Party Parliamentary IP Group Inquiry - http://bit.ly/HdvLcR good call from #ORG for open, evidence-based policyApr 04 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Leveson Love Triangle - http://bit.ly/Hkhn6i truly sordid for all concernedApr 04 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Copyright paradigm shift in visegrad countries - event review from @mmahut | http://red.ht/HT4pMI #v4copyshiftApr 04 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] College Humor does #DoctorWho http://ping.fm/s9IbvApr 04 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron ramps up the case for their #PoliceState plans http://goo.gl/Lz9et with more boogie man stories & exagerationsApr 04 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] iPhone Users Are Disgusted By New !Android Users Signing Up For Instagram [Humor] http://ping.fm/kcw68Apr 04 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Another vicious patent troll » Dutch firm slams limping RIM with patent lawsuit http://ping.fm/ye7zXApr 04 14:15
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MinceRi'm disgusted by crApple usersApr 04 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Yahoo axes 2,000 staff http://goo.gl/v0aH4 don't worry chaps, after the #patent trolling against #Facebook they'll rehire youApr 04 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] OK, I suppose they're not technically NPEs but…Apr 04 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Tomorrow, April 5, marks the 2nd anniversiary of the release of Collateral Murder http://t.co/dHjZRbIOApr 04 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Monitoring, Policies Needed To Catch Rogue !IPv6 Traffic http://ping.fm/5NT5bApr 04 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @jwildeboer Canonical guy at event tells us Ubuntu is used in 240 countries. My short research tells me this planet has 196 countr... ...Apr 04 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] josé maria martins: #Freeport - cada vez se percebe melhor a silhueta do corrupto http://goo.gl/Mta1k #pt #poucavergonhaApr 04 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] JA editorial note on change: We live in the world that we perceive. Our limits are the limits of our (cont) http://t.co/B0Zq6J9NApr 04 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Web Cryptography Working Group http://ow.ly/1iz08PApr 04 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @w3c W3C Launches Web Cryptography Working Group http://ow.ly/1iz08PApr 04 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Intel outlines open source development projects • The Register http://goo.gl/rkyNm #floss #gnulinuxApr 04 14:50
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XFaCEMinceR: any thing specifically?Apr 04 14:54
MinceRXFaCE: 151544 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [silner/@silner] iPhone Users Are Disgusted By New !Android Users Signing Up For Instagram [Humor] http://ping.fm/kcw68Apr 04 14:55
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XFaCEoicApr 04 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #iPhone fanbois enraged by Instagram's #Android triumph • The Register http://goo.gl/pNlZw lol!!!Apr 04 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] 'Jesus is not a homophobe' T-shirt ban lands Wayne Schools in federal court http://is.gd/JHbw8V #glbtApr 04 14:55
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XFaCEMinceR: Pretentious blowholesApr 04 14:56
XFaCEMinceR: The novel "The Wave" comes to mindApr 04 14:56
MinceRhaven't read itApr 04 14:57
MinceRwho wrote it?Apr 04 14:57
XFaCE!google The Wave ron jonesApr 04 14:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Wave - by Ron Jones | http://www.thewave.tk/Apr 04 14:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The Third Wave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_WaveApr 04 14:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The Third Wave, 1967, an account - Ron Jones | libcom.org | http://libcom.org/history/the-third-wave-1967-account-ron-jonesApr 04 14:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Wave by Ron Jones - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DiM7zC6aS4pQApr 04 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Mark Shuttleworth talks about MAAS - a powerful way of provisioning commodity hardware for any kind of tasks - http://is.gd/ZDkdUt #ubuntuApr 04 14:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Mozilla to drop Windows 8 Firefox bomb on IE 10 • The Register http://goo.gl/w2N2lApr 04 14:57
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MinceRthe only reason jesus is not a homophobe is that he's deadApr 04 14:57
XFaCEjono: Try to prevent the Ubuntu community from becoming like that, mkay?Apr 04 14:58
jonoMinceR, don't like gay people, eh?Apr 04 14:59
XFaCEjono: Where did you pull that from? Your anal cavity?Apr 04 14:59
MinceRjono: this has nothing to do with meApr 04 14:59
jono<MinceR> the only reason jesus is not a homophobe is that he's deadApr 04 15:00
jonojust sounded like you might agreeApr 04 15:00
jonoMinceR, do you have a problem with gay people?Apr 04 15:00
MinceRdon't like that religion so much favored by canonical being exposed for the immoral, backwards fraud it is? :>Apr 04 15:00
MinceRjono: not reallyApr 04 15:00
XFaCEjono: Come on Canadian Bacon, you know that we are just critical of religion. MinceR has said these things over the years.Apr 04 15:00
XFaCE[09:55] <XFaCE> jono: Try to prevent the Ubuntu community from becoming like that, mkay?Apr 04 15:01
MinceRhttp://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htmApr 04 15:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Homosexuality in the Bible .::. Size~: 31.26 KBApr 04 15:01
XFaCEThat was in reference to the iDick twitter postsApr 04 15:01
XFaCEMinceR: I think Jesus had a severe case of "Not Gay"Apr 04 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Islândia não precisa dos mercados durante cinco anos após acumular reservas de 9 mil milhões- Europa http://goo.gl/mMKTD vi@remixturesApr 04 15:02
MinceRalso, http://bible.cc/matthew/5-17.htmApr 04 15:02
XFaCEbblApr 04 15:02
jono"don't like that religion so much favored by canonical being exposed for the immoral, backwards fraud it is? :>" doesn't make senseApr 04 15:02
jonowhat do you mean?Apr 04 15:02
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MinceRi stated something about christianity that many christians would like to hide, and you started trying to change the subjectApr 04 15:03
MinceRit's suspicious to meApr 04 15:03
MinceRand i connected it to the ubuntu ce vs. ubuntu satanic edition issue from beforeApr 04 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Forrester Predicts Increase in Use of Open Source DI Tools | Blogs | http://ur1.ca/357m1 http://goo.gl/KvUlV #flossfilesApr 04 15:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Biggest 'Pirates' And 'Freeloaders' Of Them All? College Professors And Librarians http://goo.gl/RnrngApr 04 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !listening to The Food by Common Featuring Kanye West #npApr 04 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Biggest 'Pirates' And 'Freeloaders' Of Them All? College Professors And Librarians | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.26 KBApr 04 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @m413com m413com: @mattl should drunk driving illegal aliens get new new license or a ticket home? http://t.co/NhUNlOO8Apr 04 15:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: He must know somebody | m413 .::. Size~: 19.87 KBApr 04 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Ubuntu online tour http://goo.gl/4tgSF #gnulinuxApr 04 15:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Wordpress and Nginx » Eclectic Security http://goo.gl/6ZXJq #floss #tipsApr 04 15:20
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XFaCEjono: I think we all got confusedApr 04 15:21
XFaCEdifferent topics and the likeApr 04 15:22
XFaCEjono: I'm confusedApr 04 15:23
XFaCEAre you?Apr 04 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Friends of WikiLeaks is almost ready for phase 2. https://t.co/xWcS5ckQApr 04 15:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Photos of @rms in Europe in February 2012 -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/in-braga !gnu !fsf !lpApr 04 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] March #GCC update from Nick Clifton -- http://nickclifton.livejournal.com/10487.html -- follow !GNU blogs at http://planet.gnu.org/Apr 04 15:39
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iophkhttp://nowoczesnapolska.org.pl/2012/04/03/free-textbooks-are-part-of-digital-school-programme/Apr 04 15:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free textbooks are part of „Digital School” program «  Fundacja Nowoczesna Polska .::. Size~: 21.41 KBApr 04 15:39
iophkavailable under CC BY licenseApr 04 15:39
iophkhttp://creativecommons.pl/2012/04/digital-school-program-with-open-textbooks-approved-by-polish-government/Apr 04 15:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digital School program with open textbooks approved by Polish government! «  Creative Commons Polska .::. Size~: 22.55 KBApr 04 15:41
iophkWith chemistry, physics and math there's not a lot of excuse not to have CC textbooks online, either printable or e-books.Apr 04 15:44
oiaohmiophk: really maths there is room for more advanced where book is form of auto generatedApr 04 15:46
iophkauto-generated from LaTeX?Apr 04 15:46
oiaohmCould beApr 04 15:47
oiaohmIe randomise the exciseses and tests a bit.Apr 04 15:47
oiaohmYes screws up kids who try coping from each other.Apr 04 15:47
iophkI see.  Auto-generated exercises or randomized exercises.Apr 04 15:49
oiaohmiophk: bothApr 04 15:50
iophkI set something like that for botany in 1999.Apr 04 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !KDE 's April updates: 4.8.2 → http://dot.kde.org/2012/04/04/kde-ships-april-updates-plasma-workspaces-applications-and-platform \o/Apr 04 15:52
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iophkIt was just exercises via the WWW.Apr 04 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "Anreiz des #Urheberrechts" http://ur1.ca/8wnijApr 04 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Next generation #opendata: Personal data access by @daeaves | http://red.ht/I0Zbhl #bluebutton #greenbutton #oecdApr 04 16:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anreiz des Urheberrechts | Mimi und Eunice .::. Size~: 16.5 KBApr 04 16:00
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iophkOnce there is a good core of basic text books under the CC, it will snowball rapidly.   Apr 04 16:01
iophkIt's possible that tablets or e-readers will help that along.Apr 04 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Qt5 Alpha released http://ur1.ca/8wnkoApr 04 16:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Ironie am Mittwoch: Ohne Softwarepatente #swpat wäre unsere Wirtschaft hilflos. http://ur1.ca/8wnk7Apr 04 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: heise online | Facebook schlägt mit Patentklage gegen Yahoo zurück .::. Size~: 74.34 KBApr 04 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Suleiman Helped CIA Torture Prisoners, deployed same methods against Egyptians. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/AGGAzXWiApr 04 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Give me strength! So now we can't test our own networks any more. We have tp pay http://ping.fm/dGr0tApr 04 16:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 2,500 Marines In #Australia 'New Battlefront For US' Against #China? - YouTube http://goo.gl/h0lWx #mic #usaApr 04 16:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Just in Case You Were Concerned, Omar Suleiman "Not Squeamish" About Torture. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/THivDbilApr 04 16:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@liotier Hacking tools may become illegal in #EU: http://j.mp/HKE85m - someone tell them "hacking tools" are development softwareApr 04 16:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] This is really, really bad! ♻ @telecomix: New EU "cyber attack" laws http://t.co/d1DNAXF9Apr 04 16:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacking IT systems to become a criminal offence .::. Size~: 41.48 KBApr 04 16:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I guess this proposed EU law http://ow.ly/a4Rbl means we could no longer test our own !security. Instead we'd have to pay someone?Apr 04 16:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] If you want your computer to serve page on the internet, and you are in a firewalled subnet, try Localtunnel! http://ow.ly/a4TtUApr 04 16:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] One for all the kiwis out there - CC New Zealand is looking for a new Public Lead http://ur1.ca/8wnv8Apr 04 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Even M$ contributes to the Linux Kernel. Where's Canonical/Ubuntu? http://ur1.ca/8wnv9 #fb #inApr 04 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canada is a very silly place http://identi.ca/url/68650922 !bitcoinApr 04 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Students protesting tuition hikes pepper-sprayed by police in Santa Monica, CA http://identi.ca/url/68651018Apr 04 17:04
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cubezzzyahoo doesn't seem to be doing too wellApr 04 17:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Human beings were using fire a million years ago - 300,000 years earlier than previously thought | Mail Online http://goo.gl/exeWn #historyApr 04 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: Rendition Victim Mamdouh Habib Sues Omar Suleiman for Torture. #WikiLeaks #Cablegate http://t.co/Z50MW06bApr 04 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Intel hibernate bug fixed http://ur1.ca/8wo1x #intel #i915 #hibernate #linux #kernel #amd #radeon #gpgpu #lkmlApr 04 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @wlpress: #WikiLeaks cable shows close US ties with Mubarak-appointed Egyptian vice president, Omar Suleiman (January 2011). http://t ...Apr 04 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks: Suleiman: The CIA's man in Cairo | al Jazeera http://t.co/E80vwNr2Apr 04 17:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1483237Apr 04 17:27
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schestowitz"heh, true. They also switched distros and ended up outsourcing more than planned by going to Ubuntu, so yes, savings are still impressive, but I'm always cautious of such statements. When it's expedient such figures are often withdrawn. And actually, cost was not a motive for the move initially - they didn't expect to save any money in short or medium term. "Apr 04 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." ~ Friends of Wikileaks https://t.co/xWcS5ckQApr 04 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Self-sustaining solar reactor creates clean hydrogen fuel http://identi.ca/url/68651700 !scienceApr 04 17:32
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1488853Apr 04 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Exclusive: Much Awaited Game Client Finally Running Natively on Linux  http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/04/exclusive-much-awaited-game-client.html #gaming #gnu #linuxApr 04 17:33
schestowitz"BYE BYE WINDOWS, NICE KNOWIN YA. "Apr 04 17:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Pussy Riot women imprisoned in Russia should be freed http://t.co/U70bg3MmApr 04 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Microsoft contributed more code than Canonical to Linux since 2.6.32 (Inquirer): http://bit.ly/H8WQiSApr 04 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Ubuntu 12.04 to come with bare metal provisioning, a tech Canonical calls MaaS (H): News and Features http://bit.ly/HgiHFeApr 04 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: SKUP 2012 WikiLeaks Panel with Kristinn Hrafnsson and former MI5 officer Annie Machon https://t.co/qLZ4HhbIApr 04 17:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UK media smears: Assange wins settlement vs. Daily Mail in 5 cases of libel / inaccuracy | PCC http://t.co/7P2fQQUJApr 04 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Outrage in Germany: Nobel Laureate Grass Attacks Israel in New Poem - SPIEGEL ONLINE http://goo.gl/wKI2N #zionismApr 04 17:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Q-Cells German Solar Manufacturer Goes Bankrupt http://goo.gl/YgDrx #germany #agw #ecotretasApr 04 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Here Are The Two Slides From #Monsanto On Its Next Huge Markets http://goo.gl/sg1ER #depopulation #gmo #brazil #poland #romania are doomedApr 04 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Głosowanie nad !ACTA prawdopodobnie już niedługo. bit.ly/HqGXC3 Trzeba zewrzeć szyki na czerwiec!Apr 04 18:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] No one has even confirmed this is actually from the Canadian Mint. It is simply DRM for money, either way.Apr 04 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] +Google finally announces its long rumoured Google Glasses - +Project Glass http://ur1.ca/8wpuz... http://b1t.it/bhd8Apr 04 18:19
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penguin01hey guys, could someone tell wether you should avoid Opensuse or if it's safe to use it...Apr 04 18:27
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__martin__penguin01: let's look at it this way.. better be using gnu/linux system with few legacy apps within e.g. virtualbox instance or wine emulator rather than sticking to completely locked-down platform =)Apr 04 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Falkvinge: Swedish government wiretaps all of Sweden’s population all of the time http://t.co/yfq97c9H #svpol #auspolApr 04 18:30
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penguin01I mean because of theses things going on between Attachemate , MS and novell. I dont wanna support MS, techrights is calling it "Microsoft Linux" oOApr 04 18:30
__martin__let me guess.. you favored it's easy-to-use atmosphere with preconfigured k desktop environment & handy yast graphical configuration tool, right? =)Apr 04 18:32
__martin__its*Apr 04 18:32
penguin01I'm using Opensuse with KDE and Arch with lxde and it's not really a problem...Apr 04 18:33
__martin__to be honest.. back in 2006 when i was first introduced to the gnu/linux system.. guess what.. yes my first distro was suseApr 04 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Fight Against Copyright Enforcement & The Fight For Civil Liberties Are The Same http://goo.gl/KreCkApr 04 18:34
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cubezzzno one likes Yggdrasil?Apr 04 18:34
penguin01i would just switch to arch ( or Chakra if I'm too lazy)...Apr 04 18:35
cubezzzno one uses what I useApr 04 18:36
penguin01I just wanna know wether people should boycott Opensuse or the thing is over :/Apr 04 18:37
cubezzzjust use what you think is goodApr 04 18:37
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penguin01I'm not talking about the OS itsef, i just wanted to know wether I support  MS by using it or nor ....Apr 04 18:39
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__martin__cubezzz: whoa, thanks for your reply; realized that yggdrasil linux/gnu/x was the first distro to publicly offer live cds.. at least according to wikipediaApr 04 18:40
__martin__though their leaders had a bit different views than guys from cygnus company providing early commercial supportApr 04 18:40
cubezzzwell Yggadrasil is pretty deadApr 04 18:41
cubezzzit I was sort of joking :)Apr 04 18:41
cubezzzs/it/i/Apr 04 18:41
__martin__either thought you must be trolling or living in california =D hahApr 04 18:41
cubezzzI actually do run it sometimes thoughApr 04 18:41
cubezzzno, I never trollApr 04 18:41
penguin01wikipedia says it was stopped in 1995 O.oApr 04 18:41
cubezzzI do use YggdrasilApr 04 18:41
cubezzzI have an interesting in historical computer operating systems Apr 04 18:42
cubezzzughApr 04 18:42
cubezzzI have an interestApr 04 18:42
cubezzzI use qemu to run YggdrasilApr 04 18:42
penguin01could someone help me -_-Apr 04 18:42
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cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opensuse#CriticismApr 04 18:44
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formic_I wonder what distro Linus uses nowApr 04 18:45
cubezzzI actually like the older stuff Apr 04 18:46
cubezzzI'll probably go LFS somedayApr 04 18:46
__martin__formic_: did he already replaced Fedora with XFCE environment? =)Apr 04 18:49
__martin__replace*Apr 04 18:49
cubezzzthere's Fedora with XFCE thoughApr 04 18:50
penguin01The wikipedia articel doesn't help me, i don't care about the security thing in suse...Apr 04 18:50
cubezzzok let me put it this way...Apr 04 18:50
cubezzzthere's a ton of different distros to choose fromApr 04 18:50
cubezzzand OpenSuse isn't very high on _my_ list :)Apr 04 18:51
penguin01wathever, i'll just play it safe and switch to arch...Apr 04 18:52
__martin__cubezzz: have a look some day at one czech project which aims to provide a hardened distro but instead of using nsa developed selinux they would rather put their bets on pax with grsecurity = securix.orgApr 04 18:53
__martin__you might have not heard of it yet, like i have not about yggdrasilApr 04 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/8wqtbApr 04 18:54
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__martin__btw if you have a passion for those rare ones.. this caught my attention few months ago icaros desktop.. like reincarnated aros - amiga research os with gallium3d stack on it =D .. nouveau for nvidia gpus etc.Apr 04 18:55
cubezzzI've run AROSApr 04 18:55
cubezzzit crashes a lotApr 04 18:55
__martin__then there's another player.. BeOS revival in form of MIT-licenced Haiku Apr 04 18:56
cubezzzwhen I want to run something different I run Plan 9Apr 04 18:56
__martin__i guess this community enjoys many practical achievements of plan 9 userspace.. suckless.orgApr 04 18:57
cubezzzkolinti is also interestingApr 04 19:06
cubezzzer, kolibriApr 04 19:06
__martin__oh you mean that russian project in assembly language Apr 04 19:08
cubezzzkolibri means hummingbird in various languagesApr 04 19:08
cubezzzyesApr 04 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] at the next election, remember to thank the #Tories for giving us secret trials & govt communication monitoring & censorship #PoliticsApr 04 19:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when we talk about exporting democracy, do they mean a #PoliceState? others do it much better than us but the #Tories are playing catchupApr 04 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Government's 'secret' court evidence plan rejected - http://bit.ly/HdQTnd more stupid ideas from UK government #policestateApr 04 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody CCDP: What we know - http://bit.ly/HpdFnb good summary of what we might be comingApr 04 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Share your human-centered design story with @IDEOorg via #CC BY-NC-SA at the new HCD Connect: http://ur1.ca/8wrdxApr 04 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is there nothing the #Tories won't hand to private corps for profit? now charities with #BigSocietyCapital #politicsApr 04 19:29
formic_[13:49] <__martin__> formic_: did he already replaced Fedora with XFCE environment? =)Apr 04 19:29
formic_thats my best guessApr 04 19:29
formic_[13:52] <penguin01> wathever, i'll just play it safe and switch to arch...Apr 04 19:29
formic_according to msb__ there are no issues with opensuseApr 04 19:29
msb__OpenSuse is great because it still supports KDE3, not just highly problematic KDE4.Apr 04 19:30
msb__Hi formic!Apr 04 19:30
formic_hi msb__Apr 04 19:31
formic_what about novell, mono advertisement (ms tech), etc?Apr 04 19:31
formic_must be safe to use right?Apr 04 19:31
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msb__formic_: I have not heard otherwise.  If it isn't safe, presumably Roy or somebody here could give details.Apr 04 19:33
schestowitzi write about it right nowApr 04 19:33
schestowitzgive me 2 minsApr 04 19:33
schestowitzand another one after thatApr 04 19:34
schestowitzMS SUSEApr 04 19:34
msb__Suse has always been very well maintained.  I've used it for 11 years.Apr 04 19:34
schestowitzaffecting KDE tooApr 04 19:34
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formic_microsoft $$$ = high maintenenceApr 04 19:34
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msb__I have related what I was told about MS/Novell sabotaging KDE4, and I was called a paranoid conspiracy theorist.Apr 04 19:35
formic_That's a bit differentApr 04 19:36
msb__However I believe it to be true, that this was an MS plot to sabotage Linux.Apr 04 19:36
formic_KDE has no financial ties to Novell or MSApr 04 19:36
formic_Opensuse has direct financial ties to MSApr 04 19:36
msb__Anyhow, it does not affect KDE3, which is what I use and recommend.Apr 04 19:36
formic_via Novell and now AttackmateApr 04 19:36
msb__Term "KDE" is ambiguous.Apr 04 19:38
msb__KDE3 and its developers are totally separate from KDE4 and its devs.Apr 04 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @NPGnews: NPG is pleased to be opening access to its publication data via a linked data platform http://bit.ly/HqwExG #opendata #CC0Apr 04 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @sandersch: @thistleweb yes, good stuff this Drupal :-)Apr 04 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xamarin to Collaborate With Microsoft http://ur1.ca/8wrp3 #mono #asp #dotnet #novellApr 04 19:39
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msb__I was told by source I consider very reliable that Novell financed KDE4.Apr 04 19:39
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/07/25/another-suse-soft-bribe/Apr 04 19:40
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formic_msb__ when?Apr 04 19:42
msb__Financing took place at beginning of KDE4 development, I was told.Apr 04 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Group Says Industry, EPO Finding Loopholes To Patent Seeds, Plants - http://bit.ly/I27E3Y #EPO is a real problemApr 04 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] the apache leaning contributors may want to reserve the possibility of taking things non-Free at a later date...Apr 04 19:44
formic_what year and quarterApr 04 19:44
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formic_http://ev.kde.org/reports/ev-quarterly-2011_Q4.pdfApr 04 19:44
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting application/pdf typeApr 04 19:44
formic_look at the most recent for exampleApr 04 19:44
formic_They received money from Nokia, is that evil too?Apr 04 19:44
msb__I don't know.  Way before that.Apr 04 19:44
formic_What about Microsoft financing Novell and giving out suse enterprise coupons?Apr 04 19:45
formic_That's not as bad as funding KDE?Apr 04 19:46
kariNokia is pretty damn MS company nowadays.Apr 04 19:46
formic_I think I've hit the logical fallacy wall of no returnApr 04 19:46
formic_KDE is bad because of MS funding, opensuse is fine regardless of MS fundingApr 04 19:46
kariMaybe I change to Ubuntu or FedoraApr 04 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle Enacts 'all Or Nothing' Hardware Support Policy (CIO): http://bit.ly/I28aPvApr 04 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internationaler Aktionstag gegen #ACTA am 9. Juni 2012 - http://bit.ly/HQNkAq back on the streets, peopleApr 04 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Fight Against Copyright Enforcement & The Fight For Civil Liberties Are The Same - http://bit.ly/Hev3wc good analysisApr 04 19:47
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msb__formic_: "KDE" is meaningless term!!!Apr 04 19:47
formic_kari - you would think so but they are releasing meego stuff nowApr 04 19:47
kariAll financing originating from the camp MS is bad for the LinuxApr 04 19:47
formic_msb__ not at allApr 04 19:47
msb__KDE3 is very good DE. Apr 04 19:48
formic_msb__ if you want to be technical, KDE EVApr 04 19:48
msb__KDE4 has many problems, is complete re-write.Apr 04 19:48
formic_that's the non profit running KDEApr 04 19:48
formic_KDE3 is obsolete, and Trinity is run by an ex-windows user who thinks KDE is an XP emulatorApr 04 19:48
MinceRwhat meego stuff?Apr 04 19:48
MinceRthey've switched to kin7 and they say they'll make meltemi for featurephonesApr 04 19:49
msb__KDE3 works fine.  I use it all the time.Apr 04 19:49
MinceR(until ballmer shits his pants again and tells elop to stop it, i guess)Apr 04 19:49
formic_mincer - http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/28/meego-gets-a-stay-of-execution-two-new-nokia-meego-phones-reportedly-in-the-works/Apr 04 19:49
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msb__This is meaningless:  "ex-windows user who thinks KDE is an XP emulator".Apr 04 19:50
formic_nope not at allApr 04 19:50
MinceRformic_: thanksApr 04 19:50
formic_I wouldn't trust code from a windows userApr 04 19:50
msb__Where did that quote come from.Apr 04 19:50
formic_I read an interview who was part ofApr 04 19:50
fewtformic_ why wouldn't you trust code from a Windows user?Apr 04 19:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] US Government: There's Child Porn On the #Megaupload Servers Judge! /. http://goo.gl/8T1Te and on ISPs, Pentagon, etc lets close it allApr 04 19:50
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formic_if they are so naive as to think kde is an xp emulator, they don't know enough to write decent code for KDEApr 04 19:51
msb__Person in charge of trinity was one of major devs for KDE3.Apr 04 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @MarietjeD66 Join me for a stakeholders meeting on #ACTA, April 11, 13:00-15:00 in the EP, with @mmasnick & others! http://bit.ly/HNiE6OApr 04 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://ur1.ca/8wrvi is a great screencast resource for #Drupal skillzApr 04 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Antitrust and Microsoft SUSE http://ur1.ca/8wrvo #suse #microsoft #opensuseApr 04 19:52
msb__Maybe chief, I don't remember.Apr 04 19:52
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formic_msb__ Calvin Morrison?Apr 04 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Greenhouse gases drove the close of the last ice age - http://bit.ly/Hevuqb intresting stuff #climatescienceApr 04 19:54
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msb__This "xp emulator" quote sounds like smear from Peter Gosselin, major KDE4 dev, who has written several big articles attacking Trinity project and ordering people to use KDE4.  When I asked him about the sabotage of the multiple desktops in KDE4, he said he doesn't use multiple desktops!!!!Apr 04 19:54
formic_msb__ it was an interview I read about trinity from the trinity devsApr 04 19:55
formic_trying to find itApr 04 19:55
msb__Guy in charge of Trinity is Timothy Pearson.Apr 04 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Farm-fresh infringement: Can you violate a patent by planting some seeds? - http://bit.ly/HgoYoC more patent absurditiesApr 04 19:55
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formic_msb__ http://www.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/3895091/Forking-KDE-3-Trinity-KDEs-Timothy-Pearson.htmApr 04 19:55
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formic_hahaApr 04 19:56
formic_found itApr 04 19:56
formic_Pearson attributes this balance to the fact that "KDE 3.5 was built to emulate Windows XP, and therefore inherited that balanced interface."Apr 04 19:56
formic_By contrast, Pearson characterizes the KDE 4 series as "closer to Mac OS X. It does not recede into the background willingly, and has lost much of the configurable that KDE 3.5 had.Apr 04 19:56
formic_LOLApr 04 19:56
formic_that makes **no** sense from a programming povApr 04 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch, Belgian publishers mull a ‘Spotify for newspapers’ - http://bit.ly/Hgv2Ob interesting idea, but devil is in the detailsApr 04 19:57
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MinceRhow is it that KDE3 is supposed to emulate winblows XP if it resembles KDE2 so much, which was released before winblows xp?Apr 04 19:58
formic_mincer - exactly, would you trust this guys changes?Apr 04 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] CC Newsletter for April: Version 4.0 - CC License draft ready for public comment + more: http://ur1.ca/8wrz2Apr 04 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Oracle frees Ops Center for existing customers (Network World): http://bit.ly/HoA9FxApr 04 19:59
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MinceRformic_: noApr 04 19:59
MinceRand i switched to xfce :>Apr 04 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] For a Truly Private Social Network, Try RetroShare - http://bit.ly/HgBKPX interesting #opensource sw for "F2F" exchanges - sadly necessaryApr 04 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #patent system is for those who can't compete on merit & who can only win by #sabotaging or #taxing the competition who CAN win on meritApr 04 20:00
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formic_xfce is greatApr 04 20:00
MinceRindeedApr 04 20:00
formic_did anyone fork xfce 3 because they weren't satisfied?Apr 04 20:01
formic_:)Apr 04 20:01
formic_I found the gnome4 accouncement on distrowatch to be quite hilarious, they had the mint guy saying he already had a gnome3 interface for it.Apr 04 20:01
formic_lolApr 04 20:01
MinceRlolApr 04 20:02
msb__This "xp" statement only says KDE3 balances speed and ease of use.  Next statement says a lot of features were added that "increased the power of the interface many fold, making an ideal environment for technical power users. "Apr 04 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the social / political elite & IP maximalists have a lot in common; they both expect to be repeatedly paid a fortune for doing nothingApr 04 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Liberationtech: City of San Diego Gets #OpenGov Results from 24-Hour Hackathon http://t.co/VpiPURE3Apr 04 20:04
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msb__Any similarity to xp was design decision made way before Pearson ever got involved with KDE3.Apr 04 20:04
MinceRyeah, just like xp balances slowness and brokenness?Apr 04 20:04
msb__But KDE3 is fast and very usable!Apr 04 20:05
MinceRthen why compare it to winblows?Apr 04 20:05
formic_KDE wasn't designed to emulate anything XPApr 04 20:05
msb__So any similarity in that respect does not exist.Apr 04 20:05
MinceRthe similarity between KDE versions 1, 2 and 3 is obviousApr 04 20:05
msb__Who knows what Pearson meant there?  It's a very vague statement.Apr 04 20:05
formic_KDE3 is fast, very usable and deadApr 04 20:05
MinceR:>Apr 04 20:05
formic_Nobody is writing any new KDE3 software, or anything based on QT3Apr 04 20:06
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msb__formic_: Fine.  You can use KDE4 with 200 ways to customize bling, and not usable multiple desktops.Apr 04 20:06
formic_msb__ my multiple desktops are very usableApr 04 20:07
msb__And shitty adjustment methods.Apr 04 20:07
formic_I don't have 20 MC's open - everApr 04 20:07
msb__Too bad on you -- I do.Apr 04 20:07
formic_msb__ other people have figured out other ways to be productive without the use of 20 virtual desktopsApr 04 20:08
formic_I bet you can't find one person with the same setupApr 04 20:08
msb__It makes using the computer much faster, since I can instantly switch to task environment -- Music, Website, etc. -- with single click, and find relevant programs already set up and running in desktop without any extraneous programsApr 04 20:08
formic_its insaneApr 04 20:08
msb__One or two people in COLA do the same thing.Apr 04 20:09
msb__And calling something "insane" is meaningless without justification.Apr 04 20:09
formic_it is justifiedApr 04 20:09
msb__How?Apr 04 20:09
formic_nobody in their right mind does that, and pointing out COLA ppl proves itApr 04 20:09
MinceRmsb__: i think it's possible to set up named desktop selector buttons using launcher widgets and a command line utility (like wmctrl)Apr 04 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear !lazyweb, what are the plans for !kde sc 4.8 in !debian? when can we expect it in experimental?..Apr 04 20:10
msb__MinceR: Maybe so, but KDE3 has it all set up nicely already, along with lots of other good stuff.Apr 04 20:10
formic_msb__ KDE2 is even faster and just as usableApr 04 20:11
formic_KDE1, faster yetApr 04 20:11
msb__KDE3 is instantaneous in switching desktops and doing everything else.Apr 04 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @petermurrayrust http://data.nature.com/ Nature making data sets available as CC0 for Linked #opendata. Initial inspection positive>>goodApr 04 20:12
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formic_instantaneous because you already have everything loadedApr 04 20:12
msb__I am computer professional for 50 years.  I am "in my right mind".  I speak the truth always, as accurately as I can.Apr 04 20:12
formic_You can speak the truth and still be crazuApr 04 20:13
msb__formic_: If you claim I am crazy, then prove it.Apr 04 20:13
formic_50 years is 'meaningless' when you're obsolete on the current stuffApr 04 20:13
formic_msb__ I've proved it by what you've saidApr 04 20:14
formic_not just on the multiple desktops eitherApr 04 20:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: about?Apr 04 20:14
formic_you also claim KDE is bad because of MS funding and Novell/Suse isn't bad because of MS fundingApr 04 20:15
msb__formic_: You and I disagree about goodness of KDE3 and KDE4.  Apr 04 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wygląda na to, że jeśli zapiszecie się na szkolenia #FNP, możecie trafić na trenera w postaci mnie. Caveat emptor. bit.ly/GWvbUf ;)Apr 04 20:15
msb__formic_: No, I claim KDE is bad because desktops don't work right, sound is fucked, and various UI stuff is counter-intuitive, and 200 bling adjustments are bloat.Apr 04 20:16
formic_theres a ms-novell-kde conspiracy because KDE4 doesnt do what you want, but there is no ms-novell conspiracy because suse is good for youApr 04 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A primer from EFF on what to expect at next week's hearing in the #Megaupload case. https://eff.org/r.W8BApr 04 20:17
cubezzzhey msb__, long time no typeApr 04 20:17
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formic_sounds like paranoid delusions to meApr 04 20:17
formic_ie, crazyApr 04 20:17
msb__Hi cubezzz!Apr 04 20:17
cubezzzmsb__, I only use old KDEApr 04 20:18
cubezzz3.5.10 and olderApr 04 20:18
formic_cubezzz - how many multiple desktops?Apr 04 20:18
msb__formic_: No, I suspect MS-Novell conspiracy because I was told that KDE4 design priorities were decided by focus groups populated by Windows users.Apr 04 20:19
cubezzzformic_, I have 4 "desktops"Apr 04 20:19
cubezzz4 laptopsApr 04 20:19
msb__formic_: and desktops were sabotaged and KDE4 devs show no interest in fixing them.Apr 04 20:19
formic_msb__ but suse design priorities aren't decided by Novell & Microsoft?Apr 04 20:19
cubezzzand some ancient stuffApr 04 20:19
formic_there was no sabotageApr 04 20:19
formic_if they used focus groups of linux users only, everything in kde4 would be configured using plain text filesApr 04 20:20
msb__cubezzz: I have 1 desktop computer, running OpenSuse with KDE3.5.10, and 18 to 20 desktops.Apr 04 20:20
cubezzzmsb__, ah that's similar thenApr 04 20:20
cubezzztext the one true way! ;-)Apr 04 20:21
formic_cubezzz - 18 to 20 desktops?Apr 04 20:21
cubezzzno that's msb__ Apr 04 20:21
cubezzzI have 4Apr 04 20:21
formic_cubezzz - how long have you been an IT pro?Apr 04 20:21
cubezzzoh hmmm, I guess since 1985Apr 04 20:21
formic_cubezzz - msb__ has been in since 1962Apr 04 20:21
cubezzzyeah I know :)Apr 04 20:22
formic_perhaps you need 50 years to figure out why you'd need 18-20 desktopsApr 04 20:22
msb__I was born in '45.Apr 04 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Patent War on Android/Linux is Backfiring, Oracle is Still Unable to Win a Single Case http://ur1.ca/8wsd5 #swpatsApr 04 20:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Apparently "It's as dangerous as !ACTA" already entered the day-to-day Polish language. Interesting development. !copyfraudApr 04 20:22
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cubezzzI mean I was using computers before 1985 but wasn't getting paid yetApr 04 20:22
cubezzzI wanted a computer before there were actual home computersApr 04 20:23
msb__formic_: Very simple.  I have 18 different activity areas -- Mail, Music, Website, Linux, etc. -- and I assign a desktop to each.Apr 04 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blimp-like inflatable wind turbine tested at high altitude - http://bit.ly/HV6BTO cleverApr 04 20:24
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formic_msb__ might have some punch cards from 1963 about the JFK conspiracy ;)Apr 04 20:24
cubezzzmsb__ remembers the pre-Unix era which is scary :)Apr 04 20:24
msb__In each desktop I have multiple programs -- mostly konsoles with mc in them -- pointed to directories relevant to the particular activity.Apr 04 20:24
msb__So I can instantly switch to the activity I want with a single click.Apr 04 20:25
cubezzzmsb__, me me screenshot my setupApr 04 20:25
cubezzzprobably similar to yours in some waysApr 04 20:25
cubezzzlet meApr 04 20:25
msb__I leave all those programs running for months, as they take very few cycles and I have plenty of RAM.Apr 04 20:25
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92457509Apr 04 20:25
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-12 18:43:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Even Miguelito quit Mono. I guess it's a dead horse(and no one will stop to kick it)Apr 04 20:26
formic_msb__ sounds dangerousApr 04 20:26
formic_msb__ don't you patch your system ever?Apr 04 20:27
MinceRi have 6x3 workspaces currently, but i remember them by location, not nameApr 04 20:27
formic_msb__ opensuse 12.1 or older?Apr 04 20:27
msb__formic_: When security fixes come in.Apr 04 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #CISPA would provide a "cybersecurity" exemption to existing privacy laws. Act now to stop it: https://eff.org/r.4SPApr 04 20:27
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cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/vector-linux-main.pngApr 04 20:27
cubezzzthere's my setupApr 04 20:27
formic_msb__ on fedora thats every few days, never months apartApr 04 20:27
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formic_cubezzz - openbsd? hisssApr 04 20:28
msb__formic_: very few fixes require reboot, or affect programs I'm using.Apr 04 20:28
cubezzzwhat... it's vector linuxApr 04 20:28
formic_msb__ what version of opensuseApr 04 20:28
formic_cubezzz - openbsd and openbsd no 2 in your taskbarApr 04 20:28
cubezzzok :)Apr 04 20:29
cubezzzyou don't like openbsd?Apr 04 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @eff #CISPA would provide a "cybersecurity" exemption to existing privacy laws. Act now to stop it: https://eff.org/r.4SPApr 04 20:29
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formic_cubezzz - its not GPLApr 04 20:29
msb__formic_: for privacy reasons I decline to answer.Apr 04 20:29
formic_msb__ privacy?Apr 04 20:29
msb__yesApr 04 20:29
formic_whats so private about your OS version #Apr 04 20:29
msb__MYOBApr 04 20:30
formic_probably 9.3 thenApr 04 20:30
msb__idiotApr 04 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 16 days, Julian Assange will have spent 500 days detained without charge http://t.co/h3BcA4pC #svpo #auspolApr 04 20:30
formic_you do love old obsolete shitApr 04 20:30
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formic_9.3 had KDE3Apr 04 20:30
formic_lolApr 04 20:31
formic_and no updates, which would explain months of uptimeApr 04 20:31
msb__formic_: You are a smear artist, but a poor one.Apr 04 20:31
formic_smear? your so crazy you have some issues over giving OS version #'sApr 04 20:31
formic_im running fedora 16Apr 04 20:31
formic_OH NO!Apr 04 20:31
formic_Received CTCP-VERSION reply from msb__: Konversation 1.3.1 (C) 2002-2010 by the Konversation team.Apr 04 20:32
formic_Implies running KDE4 software on top of KDE3 (if you really are using it)Apr 04 20:32
msb__I  use some KDE4 apps.Apr 04 20:33
fewtos version numbers are top secretApr 04 20:33
formic_im guessing 11.4Apr 04 20:34
cubezzznah I can even tell you which IBM mainframe OS versions I've usedApr 04 20:34
formic_opensuseApr 04 20:34
cubezzz3.1 and I forgot the other ones :)Apr 04 20:34
cubezzzVM/SPApr 04 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat's $1B milestone notable but chump change vis-a-vis overall Linux industry http://ur1.ca/8wsl3 #gnu #linuxApr 04 20:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] brilliant advert from #EDF http://ur1.ca/8wsluApr 04 20:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Recoll Looks High, Looks Low, Finds Your File With Ease http://ur1.ca/8wsn6 I tried it once, was not too impressedApr 04 20:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Anonymous China: Hundreds of Beijing's Government Websites Defaced http://ur1.ca/8wsnu #chinaApr 04 20:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tell the ISPs: Don't use "6-strikes" graduated response program to cut users off from the Internet https://eff.org/r.V7MApr 04 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Rick Falkvinge on TedxObserver: bit.ly/HgvTOpApr 04 20:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Hadopi Accused Of 'Massaging' The Numbers To Make Anti-Piracy Activity Look Better - http://bit.ly/HeBC1J oh, look at that...Apr 04 20:50
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msb__Regarding   http://techrights.org/2011/07/25/another-suse-soft-bribe/   If Suse is used to attack Redhat, etc, and Suse team does not disconnect from Attachmate, then I will switch to Fedora or Ubuntu using Trinity.Apr 04 20:52
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scientesmsb__, what is "trinity"?Apr 04 21:00
msb__scientes: Trinity Desktop Environment -- fork/successor to KDE3.  http://www.trinitydesktop.org/Apr 04 21:01
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msb__Named multiple desktops don't work in KDE4, its sound system doesn't work with some mobos, and many find its UI unpleasant.  Apr 04 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm from identi.ca with 90 dents!Apr 04 21:04
msb__People can stay with KDE3 by using OpenSuse, which still supports it, or by using Trinity with Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.Apr 04 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] We're having problems since geonames.org isn't responding correctly; I disabled geonames lookup for now; thus the weird lat/longs. !identicaApr 04 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Man, Identi.ca sure runs a lot faster without Geonames.Apr 04 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Commission asks EU parliament to delay #Acta decision - http://bit.ly/Hfsvlf ha! a little bit blatant, no? (v @smarimc)Apr 04 21:12
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scientesmsb__, wow, kde4 came out a LONG time agoApr 04 21:17
scienteshow about razor qt msb__ ?Apr 04 21:17
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scienteswhere did oiahm go?Apr 04 21:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Krita Coming With Photoshop File Import Feature http://ur1.ca/8wt1hApr 04 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon» Shady Companies With Ties to #Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the #NSA http://goo.gl/otpKS #CarrierIQ http://goo.gl/mpLeuApr 04 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Turns More Into More http://ur1.ca/8wt2f #redhatApr 04 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks #GIFiles: Leaked emails show US security firm helping Syrian rebels | PressTV http://t.co/LFnCgqsVApr 04 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Britain: Obese Mothers Drugged in Attempt to Produce Smaller Babies http://goo.gl/3acs4 #uk #bigpharma #depopulationApr 04 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Maker of #RaspberryPi cases to give 5% of profits to foundation http://ur1.ca/8wt3t /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai #niceApr 04 21:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ModMyPi Raspberry Pi case offers 5 percent kickback to Foundation – New Tech Gadgets & Electronic Devices | Geek.com .::. Size~: 62.26 KBApr 04 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bobby1999 Een goedkopere oplossing zou Apps For X of iRail Summer of code zijn, denk ik dan zo ;-)Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Newmanlk @dezeruimte It's a pity that it says "Dutch (Belgium)". Might scare contributors from The Net http://ur1. ...Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @janseurinck: Google heeft een videotje klaargemaakt over hun augmented reality brillen. Bring. It. http://ur1. ...Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @fs111 But that's at the other side of Ghent where there isn't any kind of public transport.Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @JudithStr En jouw keuken, daar zitten zo van die voordelen aan als, kweetnie hoe zot mega lekkere desserts enzo?Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dezeruimte Bij deze bent u toegevoegd!Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Do I know someone who uses #SugarCRM at work?Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Is er een co-workingspace in Gent die 's nachts open blijft? #durftevragenApr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: The iRail philosophy works: @jenssegers, developer at #Ghendetta and #FlatTurtle, is now using branches http://ur1. ...Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dezeruimte Jazeker! Heb je al een transifex account?Apr 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Former policemen in Katrina bridge shootings jailed http://goo.gl/vvScLApr 04 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Who says it's a tough economy? We're hiring: http://ur1.ca/8t93kApr 04 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Former policemen in Katrina bridge shootings jailed .::. Size~: 65.49 KBApr 04 21:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opportunities - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 51.17 KBApr 04 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] What is the real price of the London #Olympics? http://gu.com/p/36k74 #2012Apr 04 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RupertMurdoch's American media immunity http://gu.com/p/36jzpApr 04 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What is the real price of the London Olympics? | Jules Boykoff | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 266.76 KBApr 04 21:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rupert Murdoch's American media immunity | Michael Wolff | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 124.79 KBApr 04 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Android As A First Class Citizen To Linux Kernel http://ur1.ca/8wt5t #Android #linuxApr 04 21:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Android As A First Class Citizen To Linux Kernel .::. Size~: 18.01 KBApr 04 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] KDE Ships April Updates to Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform http://ur1.ca/8wt6e new #kde is outApr 04 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Microsoft Releases Utterly Bizarre And Confusing Anti-#Piracy Video - http://bit.ly/HeHrw1 this. is. insane.Apr 04 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE - KDE Ships April Updates to Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform .::. Size~: 20.55 KBApr 04 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Releases Utterly Bizarre And Confusing Anti-Piracy Video | Techdirt .::. Size~: 31.86 KBApr 04 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin: Will April Be A Magic Month? http://ur1.ca/8wt6y #ubuntu #canonicalApr 04 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Welcome to eLife - http://bit.ly/HgDMnd oooh, exciting; potentially big #openaccess (v @petersuber @mrgunn)Apr 04 21:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is April Still A Magic Month for Ubuntu Linux? | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 87.29 KBApr 04 21:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to eLife | eLife .::. Size~: 20.69 KBApr 04 21:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Even worse than #SOPA: New #CISPA cybersecurity bill will censor the Web — RT http://goo.gl/iGtHW #usa #pipa #acta #policestateApr 04 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Even worse than SOPA: New CISPA cybersecurity bill will censor the Web — RT .::. Size~: 60.98 KBApr 04 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #DailyMail simply threw #SamanthaBrick to the wolves http://gu.com/p/36kj6Apr 04 21:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Mail simply threw Samantha Brick to the wolves | Hadley Freeman | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 258.25 KBApr 04 21:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ‘Not a country’: ICC blocks #Palestine war crimes probe — RT http://goo.gl/LXmSv #israel #stateterrorismApr 04 22:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola's WebTop 3.0 Software Launches Android 4.0 RAZR in Tablet Mode http://ur1.ca/8wt9r #linux #androidApr 04 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] WTF: 'Dangerous' substance found at ex-home of G20 suspect http://www.ur1.ca/8wt92 A little late in the game to "find" evidence !freeByronApr 04 22:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola's WebTop 3.0 Software Launches Android 4.0 RAZR in Tablet Mode - HardwareZone.com .::. Size~: 33.77 KBApr 04 22:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CP24- 'Dangerous' substance found at ex-home of G20 suspect .::. Size~: 31.54 KBApr 04 22:07
msb__scientes: Sorry for delay, I was on the phone.  KDE4 did come out a long time ago, and the desktop names in the desktop-pager applet are still not readable!Apr 04 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #DHS won't explain its order of 450 million hollow point bullets — RT http://goo.gl/hURK6 #usa #policestateApr 04 22:09
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msb__scientes: As to razor qt isn't it still under early development?Apr 04 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is beyond ridiculous. Even if they find were to find Elvis at !freeByron's former home, it can't possibly be blamed on him. #plantedApr 04 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I had heard @EFF was fighting for a persecuted blogger Glenn Greenwald wrote about; not the same oneApr 04 22:14
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schestowitzhi ruralhackApr 04 22:15
ruralhackhi schestowitz Apr 04 22:15
schestowitzwhat's new?Apr 04 22:15
ruralhacklooking for brothers and sistersApr 04 22:15
ruralhacklolApr 04 22:15
schestowitzyou got emApr 04 22:15
ruralhacknice to see ya schestowitz Apr 04 22:15
ruralhackcoolApr 04 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] When Will Android be a First Class Linux Citizen? http://ping.fm/Y1ClWApr 04 22:15
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schestowitzruralhack: ;-)Apr 04 22:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log: Intel hibernate bug fixed http://ur1.ca/8wtbs #intel #linuxApr 04 22:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Intel hibernate bug fixed - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 43.69 KBApr 04 22:17
ruralhackmodel: move finger model internetApr 04 22:17
ruralhackAround the world we speak at the same speed we speak inside our own bodies. Each of us a specialist cell mirroring our own bodies online.Apr 04 22:17
ruralhackThe model is no accident. The internet does not belong to us. It belongs to The Common Sense Of the Future. We are it's caretakers. Apr 04 22:17
ruralhackPicture a world of people communicating with the integrity of our own cells. A world united by The Indisputable Common Sense Logic. Our legacy. Apr 04 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Unless his former home has been under 24/7 police guard since 06-22-2010, anything found there at this time can't be linked to !freeByronApr 04 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm horrified the Toronto Police/Crown would pull such an obvious stunt. Makes !Canada judicial system look pathetic. #policestateApr 04 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A better case could be made against Santa Claus' responsibility for "dangerous" substance "found" at !freeByron's former home. !CDNpoliApr 04 22:24
sebsebsebschestowitz:  hiApr 04 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @liotier Hacking tools may become illegal in #EU: http://j.mp/HKE85m - someone tell them that "hacking tools" are same as #developmen ...Apr 04 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacking IT systems to become a criminal offence .::. Size~: 41.48 KBApr 04 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron was (a)punitively incarcerated without bail for almost a year (b)was released under onerous bail conditions... !CDNpoliApr 04 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] …and !FreeByron not allowed to revisit former home. 'Dangerous substance' not found prior to dud Crown case unlikely to have been there B4Apr 04 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Good Evening !Identiverse :)Apr 04 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Good Evening !Identiverse :).Apr 04 22:35
sebsebsebthat first dent got deleted ^Apr 04 22:36
DaemonFChttp://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2201/screenshotfrom201204041.pngApr 04 22:36
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DaemonFCI ended up needing to set the inode64 mount optionApr 04 22:37
DaemonFCbecause the partition is larger than 1 TBApr 04 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Just added a new #CC BY-SA project to our @Kickstarter page! Let us know about others. http://ur1.ca/3tuhlApr 04 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons — Kickstarter .::. Size~: 63.75 KBApr 04 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I guess Negri Electronics thinks buying "top tweet" in the !freeByron twitter stream will get them customers #idoubtitApr 04 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNOME 3.4 Looks Good and Feels Good (Eventually) http://ur1.ca/8wth6 #gnu #gnomeApr 04 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon, @sebsebsebApr 04 22:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME 3.4 Looks Good and Feels Good (Eventually) | Dr Dobb's .::. Size~: 89.53 KBApr 04 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Correction: deadline to apply to be a CC intern this summer is still April 9, Monday. http://bit.ly/HfEIpX cc: @kylewilliams87Apr 04 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @digimer Like bullies getting a last punch into their victim !FreeByron old home is being raided again, day after the trial ends. !CDNpoliApr 04 22:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good evening @sebsebseb and !tzag !identiverse!Apr 04 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Joomla surpasses 30 million download mark http://ur1.ca/8wtir #joomla #cms #opensourceApr 04 22:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Joomla surpasses 30 million download mark .::. Size~: 41.04 KBApr 04 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] New planning for !Mageia 2 release: Beta 3 14/04; RC 02/05; Final 15/05 http://ur1.ca/8wtio http://ur1.ca/8wtip http://ur1.ca/8wtiq #MageiaApr 04 22:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In a free country the police must follow rules; in a police state, they make 'em up as they go. !FreeByron case will show what !Canada hasApr 04 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] oh... I upgraded when Beta 2 came out, so now I don't care much about the delay :DApr 04 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Yes, Steam and Source Engine Coming to !Linux ~ Ubuntu Vibes http://goo.gl/CcjYEApr 04 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] watching #Ronin #nuffsaidApr 04 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yes, Steam and Source Engine Coming to Linux ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates .::. Size~: 207.24 KBApr 04 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @jankusanagi Ok :).Apr 04 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Installing !aptosid in a 4GiB ramdisk, just for kicks. Fun times!Apr 04 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Installation took 2:59. I love it when a plan comes together. !aptosidApr 04 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺‏ @frankejames Bureaucrats bamboozling!! Where was MacKay? Minister missing in action on F-35 purchase: http://www.ur1.ca/8wtmg !CDNpoliApr 04 23:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canada News: Tim Harper: F-35 fighter jet planning a game of fun with figures - thestar.com .::. Size~: 112.61 KBApr 04 23:05
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJTXLuu7_0YApr 04 23:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I oppose gutting !Canada 's environment law! https://twitter.com/#!/ecojustice_ca/status/183311926313496576/photo/1 /v @MiningWatch !CDNpoliApr 04 23:09
TechrightsBot-tr@ecojustice_ca: Retweet if you are against the gutting of Canadian environmental laws! #cdnpoli #ndpldr http://t.co/GdSEhOmDApr 04 23:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bobjonkman #Ubuntuhour #Kitchener has been moved to Friday the 13th, 7pm at http://ur1.ca/8wo41 !ykf !locoteams !ubuntucaApr 04 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu Hour Kitchener | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal .::. Size~: 13.12 KBApr 04 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] SIU investigating arrest of #OccupyToronto protester http://www.ur1.ca/8wtot <its about time; still, should be investigating *both* assaultsApr 04 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CP24- SIU investigating arrest of Occupy T.O. protester .::. Size~: 36.22 KBApr 04 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 4/4/2012: GNOME 3.4 Live CD, GIMP 2.8.0-RC1 http://ur1.ca/8wtr7 #techrightsApr 04 23:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 4/4/2012: GNOME 3.4 Live CD, GIMP 2.8.0-RC1 | Techrights .::. Size~: 113.11 KBApr 04 23:22
DaemonFChttp://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/15-logos-that-look-like-other-thingsApr 04 23:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 15 Logos That Look Like Other Things .::. Size~: 302.54 KBApr 04 23:23
DaemonFC:)Apr 04 23:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2012 Pigasus Awards Announcement http://ur1.ca/8wtrf #randiApr 04 23:24
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formic_What does this look like: http://www.ram-il.org/Royal%20Arch%20apron%202b%20transparent.gifApr 04 23:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Not sure when, but soon, I am probably going to be doing a Lightning talk about !Mageia at an event at one of the universities here. #MageiaApr 04 23:25
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92461737Apr 04 23:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Apr-12 21:44:12 UTC - Identi.ca: The next train at platform #1 is #opensource http://ur1.ca/8wthmApr 04 23:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @balkissoon Hazardous substance found at Byron Sonne's former house. Police dump it at the Leslie Spit. Top story at http://www.cp24.com/Apr 04 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A #Copyright First: Bogus Copyright Takedown Leads To Australian Court Awarding $150k Damages - http://bit.ly/HKRXgS #auApr 04 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♺ @balkissoon Police spokesperson never said "device," CP24. http://www.cp24.com/ !freeByronApr 04 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Toronto's Breaking News - GTA Headlines, Traffic, Weather - CP24 .::. Size~: 187.78 KBApr 04 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Copyright First: Bogus Copyright Takedown Leads To Australian Court Awarding $150k Damages | Techdirt .::. Size~: 41.81 KBApr 04 23:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Not done a talk in front of 100 or so people before, so that will be quite an experience. !Mageia #MageiaApr 04 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sacrificial lambs don't fix problems ♺ MT @kady Well, *a* source is saying ... Harper is about to re shuffle cabinet. MacKay is out !CDNpoliApr 04 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek 4.6? Debian Testing has had 4.7.4 for some time now...Apr 04 23:59

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