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| MinceR | warranty policies might also matter | Apr 14 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | I think I've said this several times now, but I try to avoid name brand things when I can | Apr 14 00:00 |
| MinceR | for example, in terms of pixel flaws | Apr 14 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That might not matter | Apr 14 00:00 |
| MinceR | it might, if you get an lcd tv with a hot subpixel | Apr 14 00:00 |
| DaemonFC | my Visa card gives me a better warranty on my TV than the company who made the TV did | Apr 14 00:01 |
| MinceR | how legal is that? | Apr 14 00:01 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: I remember for every good lesser brand like Sylvania there is in-store brands like Insignia and Dynex. | Apr 14 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Totally legal | Apr 14 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | I get a two year warranty from Visa that even covers damage that was my fault | Apr 14 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | even if it takes $20 in interest payments to get the TV fully paid off, the warranty is worth more than that | Apr 14 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, They make an obscene profit from people that just make the minimum payments each month and take forever to get their card paid off | Apr 14 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | so they can cover "incentives" like a no fault 2 year warranty | Apr 14 00:03 |
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| MinceR | oh, so it's not canceling the payment but an actual official warranty? | Apr 14 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | yes, if I buy a TV with my Visa card, I get their extended warranty | Apr 14 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | even if I pay them in full next month and avoid all interest | Apr 14 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Also, if I rent a car with the Visa card, I can waive the rental car company's damage waiver and Visa will cover my up to the full value of the car | Apr 14 00:05 |
| DaemonFC | *me | Apr 14 00:05 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 14 00:06 |
| MinceR | that's nice | Apr 14 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | that card is definitely worth having even if I have a balance sometimes | Apr 14 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I plan to rent a car for an extended trip sometime late this year | Apr 14 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | so by putting it on my card, I get to decline the damage waiver that would cost me like $12 a day | Apr 14 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | (that's what it was last time I rented a car anyway) | Apr 14 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | and then I get cash back on the rental car at 1.5% | Apr 14 00:07 |
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| DaemonFC | plus the normal 5% on gasoline | Apr 14 00:07 |
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| DaemonFC | they end up paying some people to use their card | Apr 14 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | because they know most people won't get enough from the incentives to outweight the interest they pay | Apr 14 00:09 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, each month I probably spend $150 on groceries and maybe another $30 on gas, normally anyway | Apr 14 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | so I apply the $8-9as an account credit | Apr 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | then pay the rest back at no interest | Apr 14 00:11 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | at the end of the year, Visa sends me a form 1099 | Apr 14 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | and I get to declare the $100-150 I got in credits as taxable income | Apr 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | bleh | Apr 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'm still ahead though | Apr 14 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I end up using that card for all the stuff I can't really get out of paying and just apply the credits to my account and pay the rest off each month | Apr 14 00:13 |
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| DaemonFC | I noticed my credit rating went up another 13 points this month | Apr 14 00:13 |
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| DaemonFC | http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/04/13/0343242/new-study-suggests-mars-viking-robots-found-life | Apr 14 00:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1517478 | Apr 14 00:15 |
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| schestowitz | "Desktop integrated SMS messaging - nice! Looking forward to seeing this in Kopete " | Apr 14 00:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Exclusive: Zipwhip to open source ‘Textspresso’ machine and release cloud texting for Ubuntu https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200:libby-clark/563447:zipwhip-to-open-source-textspresso-machine-and-release-cloud-texting-for-ubuntu #ubuntu | Apr 14 00:15 |
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| DaemonFC | my credit rating is better than California's | Apr 14 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Apr 14 00:17 |
| schestowitz | hy ryan | Apr 14 00:18 |
| schestowitz | how's dawn son's creek? | Apr 14 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Apr 14 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | she'll be gone soon I think | Apr 14 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | and I'll be glad | Apr 14 00:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe you'll have an attractive gay new neighbour.. | Apr 14 00:18 |
| schestowitz | with a cat | Apr 14 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I'm not that lucky | Apr 14 00:19 |
| schestowitz | and gun fanaticism | Apr 14 00:19 |
| schestowitz | then you;'ll hand out less in this channel | Apr 14 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | What's so bad about guns? | Apr 14 00:19 |
| schestowitz | they kill people | Apr 14 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | "Every once in a while some stupid kid finds one and blows his brains out!" | Apr 14 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | So.....What's so bad about guns? | Apr 14 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 14 00:19 |
| schestowitz | that depends on what you think about kids | Apr 14 00:20 |
| schestowitz | my dad had some guns | Apr 14 00:20 |
| schestowitz | as a kid I found them | Apr 14 00:20 |
| schestowitz | I also did the shooting range with military-grade weapons | Apr 14 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I feel sorry for the police | Apr 14 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | they have to strip search people like Dawn | Apr 14 00:21 |
| schestowitz | my fiancée likes my photos when I hold rifles (I was never doing it for any murder forces) | Apr 14 00:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: at least they have gloves | Apr 14 00:23 |
| schestowitz | Aged 16 in Florida... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1998.jpg | Apr 14 00:24 |
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| schestowitz | With dad... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/1984-5.png | Apr 14 00:24 |
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| schestowitz | havn't uploaded those where I have fully-automatic Colt | Apr 14 00:25 |
| schestowitz | two, one in each hand | Apr 14 00:25 |
| schestowitz | which reminds me, Max Payne is being ported to Android (Linux) now | Apr 14 00:26 |
| schestowitz | you can't do with colts what you can do with a pair of Ingrams | Apr 14 00:26 |
| schestowitz | too much kickback | Apr 14 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Microsoft-creates-open-source-offshoot-1520424.html | Apr 14 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft creates open source offshoot - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.64 KB | Apr 14 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Apr 14 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | MS created proxy | Apr 14 00:28 |
| schestowitz | another one | Apr 14 00:29 |
| schestowitz | like outercurve | Apr 14 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | what's the point of having a wholly owned subsidiary like that? | Apr 14 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Let's pretend it's independent | Apr 14 00:29 |
| DaemonFC | they're legally responsible for anything it does anyway | Apr 14 00:29 |
| schestowitz | they can pretend it's thinking on its own | Apr 14 00:29 |
| schestowitz | no shareholders | Apr 14 00:29 |
| schestowitz | They indpendence-wahsed Outercurve | Apr 14 00:29 |
| schestowitz | with help from dotnetnuke and Miguel de Icaza | Apr 14 00:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/double-audio-extravaganza-two-shows-in-two-days/ | Apr 14 00:32 |
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| schestowitz | have a listen, tell us what you think | Apr 14 00:32 |
| schestowitz | maybe put it on your sansa for later | Apr 14 00:32 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: I did a grep on non-cache logs | Apr 14 00:41 |
| schestowitz | I searched to see how many requests for mp3+ogg in the past 5 days: almost 7k, even though we made no new episodes in months | Apr 14 00:42 |
| schestowitz | fewt: here's your change ;-) http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Apr-13.html | Apr 14 00:47 |
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| schestowitz | \*chance | Apr 14 00:47 |
| fewt | huh what, what did I do? | Apr 14 00:57 |
| schestowitz | joke about mono in fuduntu | Apr 14 00:58 |
| fewt | :P | Apr 14 01:01 |
| schestowitz | Is Kopete still being developed like it used to be? I heard about stragnation, but justa rumour... | Apr 14 01:09 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I could be on techbytes soon, exams almost done | Apr 14 01:10 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Ewww Skype... | Apr 14 01:10 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: "1.2.1 (March 7, 2012; 33 days ago)[1] [±]" | Apr 14 01:10 |
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| schestowitz | Kopete? | Apr 14 01:16 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: can join us probably, Tim would most likely agree, but Rusty too has been pinging me, he wants to get back with the crew | Apr 14 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Kopete is gone | Apr 14 01:17 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did Rusty contact you too? | Apr 14 01:17 |
| schestowitz | and we have RMS lined up | Apr 14 01:17 |
| schestowitz | And a game developer from Holland | Apr 14 01:17 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: yes, kopete | Apr 14 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | it's clear that nobody really wants to do the work it would take to fix up and modernize Kopete | Apr 14 01:18 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Debbie downer | Apr 14 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | it's just kind of lingering at this point, and starting to be replaced by Telepathy | Apr 14 01:18 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: But I thought RMS would only go on if Skype wasn't being used | Apr 14 01:18 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: | Apr 14 01:18 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: haha called it | Apr 14 01:18 |
| schestowitz | willkommen | Apr 14 01:18 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: mnmble | Apr 14 01:19 |
| schestowitz | or SIP | Apr 14 01:19 |
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| *Teller is now known as Penn | Apr 14 01:21 | |
| Penn | LOUD YELLING | Apr 14 01:21 |
| *Penn is now known as XFaCE | Apr 14 01:21 | |
| schestowitz | Dawn is back home? cc DaemonFC | Apr 14 01:22 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm? | Apr 14 01:22 |
| *scientes is struggleing with networking cutoffs | Apr 14 01:22 | |
| scientes | and has been for a long time | Apr 14 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=a75c6163e605f35b14f26930dd9227e4f337ec9e | Apr 14 01:24 |
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| scientes | also the new precise kernel killed gnome-shell for me | Apr 14 01:24 |
| scientes | for some reason | Apr 14 01:24 |
| scientes | well i just got mine+1 downlaoded and installed so maybe a reboot will fix it | Apr 14 01:25 |
| scientes | woah, was broadcom merged? | Apr 14 01:26 |
| scientes | (as FOSS) | Apr 14 01:27 |
| *scientes is watching the LFCS video | Apr 14 01:27 | |
| sebsebseb | scientes: scientes Maybe this will be Microsoft's Friday the 13th bad luck, if it doesn't work out well enough I mean: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/microsoft-forms-open-source-subsidiary-on-friday-the-13th/ | Apr 14 01:31 |
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| sebsebseb | uh that was meant to go to schestowitz ^ | Apr 14 01:31 |
| scientes | sebsebseb, too lazy to type three letters before hitting <tab>? | Apr 14 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: heh heh something like that | Apr 14 01:32 |
| scientes | oh wait, h is before i in the alphabet? | Apr 14 01:32 |
| scientes | so it goes to schestowitz | Apr 14 01:32 |
| sebsebseb | s and tab does scientes | Apr 14 01:33 |
| scientes | sebsebseb, they you have a wierd "smart" tab handler in ur irc client | Apr 14 01:33 |
| scientes | that looks at who talked latest or seomthing | Apr 14 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | no it's not that | Apr 14 01:33 |
| sebsebseb | depends on who is the channel what the letter will do and tab | Apr 14 01:33 |
| scientes | but scientes > schestowitz :P | Apr 14 01:34 |
| scientes | as i > h | Apr 14 01:34 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: yeah schestowitz is an obbessive blogger, where as you, I don't know really, something else with IT though | Apr 14 01:34 |
| scientes | haha | Apr 14 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: yeah he follows Linux new's nearly every day, and as closey as he does, so yeah that's obbessive really | Apr 14 01:35 |
| schestowitz | "obbessive" :) | Apr 14 01:35 |
| sebsebseb | typo | Apr 14 01:36 |
| schestowitz | can I treat this as a compliment? | Apr 14 01:36 |
| scientes | im not sure | Apr 14 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: heh heh well yes and no | Apr 14 01:36 |
| scientes | i obsess about linux news too | Apr 14 01:36 |
| scientes | although my lwn expired... | Apr 14 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | I mean in the one hand it's good to have people liike you following it so closely, blogging and about all that | Apr 14 01:36 |
| sebsebseb | on the other hand life is short, and there is always other stuff that can be done | Apr 14 01:36 |
| scientes | yeah i dont do that, schestowitz is def > than me | Apr 14 01:36 |
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| scientes | i was just joking about tab completion, alphabetic betterness | Apr 14 01:37 |
| *sebsebseb is glad that he is well much less obbessed with Linux news these days :) | Apr 14 01:37 | |
| scientes | its like naming your business AAAGlazing | Apr 14 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | however this did result in me not reolising that Humble Bundle for Android 2 was out | Apr 14 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | untill it was to late | Apr 14 01:37 |
| sebsebseb | ah well | Apr 14 01:37 |
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| sebsebseb | plus I have bought loads of them, but stil not played any of the games, or set up for my little brother for various reaons | Apr 14 01:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Finally getting round to watching @Wale's Ambition video. | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Great Assange show promo http://t.co/n4gTfLRw | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Wale - Ambition feat. Meek Mill & Rick Ross (Official Video): http://ur1.ca/9002j via @youtube | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @AJEnglish: Opinion: The Summit of the Americas, WikiLeaks and the failed war on drugs http://t.co/yiCVs2d1 | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Like Dailymotion, but way too many videos are not "available for your country" o_O | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Been a while since I was on jamendo.com | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] It's like Diaspora* made a point of not playing nice with friendika,statusnet ,other Open/Federated social web projects | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Sleep tight! | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Home sweet home. #needsleep | Apr 14 01:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 20-million new Ubuntu Linux PCs in 2012? http://ur1.ca/9006o @sjvn with a good report | Apr 14 01:38 | |
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| sebsebseb | not really got time to be a gamer, since got other things in life I want to do :) | Apr 14 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | ,but will play games sometimes | Apr 14 01:38 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: I find it hard keeping rather up to date with Linux news each day/week, so I can't really do what you do | Apr 14 01:39 |
| schestowitz | I compile daily dummaries | Apr 14 01:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google CEO Has His Eyes on Low-End Android Tablets http://ur1.ca/90082 #linux | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Attenti al Ladro by Boom Boom Beckett #jamendo #jazz | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical Prepares Send to #FogComputing Feature http://ur1.ca/9008n | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazing Robots controlled by #Android http://ur1.ca/9008t #linux | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] International Day Against #DRM — May 4, 2012 | Defective by Design http://goo.gl/XfTrP #fsf | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Friday Favorite: #Audacity 2.0 http://ur1.ca/900as used to edit TechBytes Episode 67: Second of Season 2 http://ur1.ca/8zzkw | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Unigine Engine Looks To Wasteland 2 http://ur1.ca/900b8 #gaming #linux | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] C's close half w/ a beautiful play to get KG a dunk, and it's 36-30 over Toronto at the break. Bass: 8 points, Pierce: 6 rebounds. | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google CEO Has His Eyes on Low-End Android Tablets .::. Size~: 37.59 KB | Apr 14 01:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My posts on here past couple of weeks haven't been my pithiest, I must admit. | Apr 14 01:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reno takes on Goldman Sachs http://ur1.ca/900ce no-one yet got sent to jail. Big lootihg=acceptable. #GoldmanSachs | Apr 14 01:39 | |
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| sebsebseb | plus most of these Linux articles are junkey opinion articles realy | Apr 14 01:39 |
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| schestowitz | and they are grouped by topics | Apr 14 01:39 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah the daily links? | Apr 14 01:40 |
| schestowitz | yus! | Apr 14 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: something about Techbytes coming in the channe there | Apr 14 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | in the titles hmm | Apr 14 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | you started it again? | Apr 14 01:40 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok now I see the dent | Apr 14 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | I guess not then | Apr 14 01:41 |
| sebsebseb | or maybe you have | Apr 14 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #Friendika needs UI work. :-) | Apr 14 01:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Awesome tutorial for creating a Unity lens from David Planella - http://is.gd/fiZLr2 #ubuntu | Apr 14 01:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Esta Semana (2012/15) – A taxa Cristas;Fukushima pode destruir a vida na Terra; Mozilla com chamadas de vídeo « O Vigia http://goo.gl/jV76M | Apr 14 01:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] That say I say Linux desktop UI go from butt ugly to pretty in under 5 years. #friendika | Apr 14 01:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 12.04 will provide APIs to bridge Openstack and Amazon Web Services http://ur1.ca/900gx #fogcomputing #ubuntu | Apr 14 01:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Canonical Narrows Linux Focus By Dropping Kubuntu http://ur1.ca/900h3 #kubuntu #ubuntu | Apr 14 01:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] BBC News - Greek town develops bartering system without euro http://goo.gl/z2YdN #greece #shtf #preppers | Apr 14 01:43 | |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Why you denting about the Kubuntu drop now, that's old news | Apr 14 01:43 |
| sebsebseb | there's also a new sponser for it | Apr 14 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/kY07t.png | Apr 14 01:44 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Apr 14 01:44 |
| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/aUg2T | Apr 14 01:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/r/funny/ya9J5 | Apr 14 01:47 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: nice you have indeed started Techbytes again :) | Apr 14 01:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TechBytes Episode 67: Nokia Back to Linux http://ur1.ca/8zzla Double audio extravaganza! – Two shows in two days! http://ur1.ca/900ie | Apr 14 01:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Student Bay File-Sharing ‘Admin’ Walks Free http://identi.ca/url/68893958 | Apr 14 01:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] CISPA Authors Launch Twitter Account To Preach False Merits Of The Bill http://identi.ca/url/68890680 | Apr 14 01:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fix income inequality with $10 million loans for everyone! http://identi.ca/url/68894012 | Apr 14 02:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Here's a really good blog post about the Kony 2012 #viral documentary and why it's all a bunch of BS. http://ur1.ca/900p1 | Apr 14 02:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple slams #Amazon for behaving just like Apple http://goo.gl/BdcCJ | Apr 14 02:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The G+ redesign might just give Google Groups a new lease of life. | Apr 14 02:08 | |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if it's a known issue that using any theme other than Ambiance or Radiance messes up Ubuntu Software Center | Apr 14 02:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear !kde !plasma !lazyweb, I need some docs on DataSource source types and how to use them. any links? | Apr 14 02:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Looking to spend as much time on wordpress.com and my own site http://moshe.nairo.biz as I do on tumblr. | Apr 14 02:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Digital TV goes live in Nairobi, Kenya: http://wp.me/praTX-c7 via @KenyaCurrent | Apr 14 02:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> pangolin, I think 47 ipads per minute is totally reasonable | Apr 14 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | <DaemonFC> when half of them end up broken, Apple can just swap them out as they deny everything :D | Apr 14 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 14 02:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] C's make things interesting but fall in Toronto, 84-79. Pierce has 18, KG grabs 10 boards and Rondo has 12 assists. C's face NJ Saturday. | Apr 14 02:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Case you doubt that #Malindi is the most beautiful place on earth,check this out http://ur1.ca/900yq @perpetuahsugar | Apr 14 02:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] O łyżeczce do lodów i lodach, czyli katastrofa Titanica oczyma Jarosława: bit.ly/IGQoj2 | Apr 14 02:53 | |
| DaemonFC | In Jacksonville, Florida, Alexandra Tobias pleaded guilty to second-degree murder for shaking her baby to death. She told investigators that the baby boy's crying had interrupted her while she was playing a Facebook game called FarmVille. She was sentenced in December 2010.[95] | Apr 14 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | oh look, and it didn't involve fragging space demons! | Apr 14 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Petric_Shooting | Apr 14 03:02 |
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| DaemonFC | with parents like this, I think the video game was just the last straw | Apr 14 03:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "With a fresh start, you get to build a whole new architecture from the ground up, and OSS gives you the best value." http://ur1.ca/90137 | Apr 14 03:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] New look blogger. More in sync with G+ and all. See where @google are heading with this one. | Apr 14 03:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Shajara" is swahili for a diary or journal. | Apr 14 03:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just seen a pic of @tmsruge on @afromusing's flickr stream. Boy we'll changa to buy you a comb :-) | Apr 14 03:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Al Shabaab 3 piece razor" By Zeus' beard, why so sinister @afromusing #flickr | Apr 14 03:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Al Shabaab 3 piece razor" By Zeus' beard, why so sinister ?@afromusing #flickr | Apr 14 03:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #Malindi > #Diani, North Coast > South Coast #Kenya | Apr 14 03:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The basketball's over. Don't know why I am still awake. | Apr 14 04:01 | |
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| scientes | damn | Apr 14 04:51 |
| scientes | i cant really watch the linux videos that are up, (and html5) cause i dont have a fast enough connection | Apr 14 04:51 |
| scientes | and they are all HD | Apr 14 04:51 |
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| prurigro | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/14/cispa_facebook_support/ | Apr 14 05:11 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @gblack Home depot is selling nefarious explosives magazines. !freebyron http://instagr.am/p/JYDjPNEFgb/ | Apr 14 05:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @LizzyM_TO such idiots! Crown:"Sonne stored chemical under net in yard suggests a "nefarious" purpose." http://www.ur1.ca/901qj !freeByron | Apr 14 05:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @mopheadf Spies will still try to have verdict by April 23. !FreeByron !CDNpoli !Canada #g20report | Apr 14 05:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @whistlewright Human madness is a cunning and most feline thing. ~Moby Dick | Apr 14 05:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @darshit A great man is different from an eminent one in that he is ready to be the servant of the society - B.R. Ambedkar !q | Apr 14 05:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Decadent does not fully explain the failings of capitalism. Today and always. | Apr 14 05:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Openness to us means customers have a choice of where to run their clouds," - lol. VMWare, really? http://ur1.ca/901wh | Apr 14 06:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorded_Future | Apr 14 06:21 |
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| DaemonFC | Google and the CIA have invested in this company | Apr 14 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's attempting to predict the future by "monitoring the web in real time" | Apr 14 06:22 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I wonder why our front door was open, when I went down staris earlier | Apr 14 06:23 |
| sebsebseb | I guess someone didn't close it propelry | Apr 14 06:23 |
| scientes | why is there so much drama in FOSS? | Apr 14 06:25 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: since loads of Windows haters/dislikers end up using LInux and such mainly? | Apr 14 06:26 |
| sebsebseb | and guys as well | Apr 14 06:26 |
| sebsebseb | mainly guys | Apr 14 06:26 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: and a lot of them are political a bit at least and so on | Apr 14 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | things would be quite differnet here and there, if much more females were using Linux and such to | Apr 14 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | I expect | Apr 14 06:27 |
| scientes | true true | Apr 14 06:27 |
| scientes | although they can get dramatic as well | Apr 14 06:27 |
| sebsebseb | true, but things woudn't be quite as bad I expect | Apr 14 06:27 |
| scientes | i always thought of women as the more dramatic of the two sexes | Apr 14 06:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I noticed a fortnight ago that in an EA game they made a point about licensing proprietary software. | Apr 14 06:28 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm downloadign a bunch of cookbooks | Apr 14 06:28 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, stop doing that and get back in the kitchen | Apr 14 06:28 |
| scientes | NAU! | Apr 14 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | I gave up trying to figure out which one to look for and found a torrent with several hundred of them | Apr 14 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | meh | Apr 14 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | maybe I can get some ideas out of these | Apr 14 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't had it in the budget to go out to eat for a few months now | Apr 14 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | and I'm getting tired of the things I know how to make :P | Apr 14 06:29 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: unfortunatly the education stystem or well most of them have failed big time in general, many just teach Microsoft Office and that's that | Apr 14 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | many people find that boring of both genders | Apr 14 06:30 |
| formic_ | [01:27] <DaemonFC> I'm downloadign a bunch of cookbooks | Apr 14 06:30 |
| formic_ | anarchists cookbook? | Apr 14 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | no | Apr 14 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | most of the educational systems haven't properly encourage more females to get inteested in tech as well, or for that matter people of both genders | Apr 14 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | that one is pretty boring | Apr 14 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | and a lot of it is severely dated | Apr 14 06:30 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: and there's an idea that computers is more of a guy thing, or that guys in general or better and so on | Apr 14 06:30 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - lol? | Apr 14 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | actsauly BBC CLick had something about genders, in last week's episode, well there will be one later there or whatever | Apr 14 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: you know how they say Linux has 1% market share? | Apr 14 06:31 |
| sebsebseb | Desktop LInux | Apr 14 06:31 |
| scientes | its bull | Apr 14 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | I was thinking a bit about that the other day, how well basically, is that really it | Apr 14 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | 1% of the world wide computer users are geekey guys? | Apr 14 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | or mainly that | Apr 14 06:32 |
| scientes | however i woudln't argue that android is growing faster | Apr 14 06:32 |
| formic_ | its between 1-10% | Apr 14 06:32 |
| scientes | sebsebseb, there are alot of windows users that think they are geeks | Apr 14 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | also people into computers, apprantly a lot may have Aspergers Syndrome or something like it, and that's the male interest computers | Apr 14 06:32 |
| formic_ | no accurate measurements exist | Apr 14 06:32 |
| scientes | ..note i said **think** | Apr 14 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | so 1% of the world wide computer population, have Aspergers or something like that or a bit at least? no that doesn't seem right | Apr 14 06:32 |
| scientes | windows users often think their are EXPERTS, just cause they can use daemon tools to mount a iso image | Apr 14 06:32 |
| sebsebseb | computer users population | Apr 14 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | women are interested in things to do to their hair | Apr 14 06:33 |
| scientes | i.e. mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt | Apr 14 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: hehh heh | Apr 14 06:33 |
| formic_ | the very minimum would be 1% but I think there are more linux users than apple users | Apr 14 06:33 |
| DaemonFC | the more expensive and time consuming, the better | Apr 14 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: girls/women haven't been properly encouraged | Apr 14 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | to get invovled with computers and tech in general | Apr 14 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | by society | Apr 14 06:33 |
| sebsebseb | it's seen as a guys thing | Apr 14 06:33 |
| formic_ | sebsebseb - even women discourage other women from tech | Apr 14 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | well with the exception of using Facebook and other chat stuff obviously and office suites, and email, for example | Apr 14 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | anything more techi seen as more of a guys thing in geenral | Apr 14 06:34 |
| scientes | DaemonFC,yeah, hair curling... http://i.imgur.com/fX7TM.gif | Apr 14 06:34 |
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| sebsebseb | formic_: that can happen as well | Apr 14 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | scientes, "What ARE they doing in there!?" | Apr 14 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 14 06:34 |
| cubezzz | there are women programmers, I've met them | Apr 14 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: there are yes | Apr 14 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Hi honey, hope you like this shampoo, it was only $50!" | Apr 14 06:34 |
| sebsebseb | ,but not that many | Apr 14 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | women are fucking crazy | Apr 14 06:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 14 06:34 |
| formic_ | women often go into IT security and not programming | Apr 14 06:35 |
| scientes | geeze, i shouldn't have promoted this behavior | Apr 14 06:35 |
| scientes | it isn't good | Apr 14 06:35 |
| formic_ | more money and less pigs | Apr 14 06:35 |
| sebsebseb | there are women who are into Linux, but not that many | Apr 14 06:35 |
| scientes | formic_, yeah they are smart, work on the symptom, not the cause, therefore get endless source of work | Apr 14 06:35 |
| sebsebseb | at a young age teh schools should be teaching people some of the more technical stuff not just how to use Micrsooft Office | Apr 14 06:35 |
| sebsebseb | well this is something that is on the verge of changing in UK in general it seems | Apr 14 06:35 |
| sebsebseb | years over due | Apr 14 06:35 |
| formic_ | sebsebseb - Ghost in the Wires should be high school material | Apr 14 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: what? | Apr 14 06:36 |
| formic_ | Kevin Mitnick's new book | Apr 14 06:36 |
| *scientes likes TOMOYO | Apr 14 06:36 | |
| DaemonFC | when I was in school, we didn't even have a real computer | Apr 14 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | OK, we had an Apple II | Apr 14 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | one | Apr 14 06:36 |
| scientes | IT security is all about designing stuff right | Apr 14 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | for the whole class! | Apr 14 06:36 |
| formic_ | it should be required reading for high school tech | Apr 14 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | but it had a Moon Rover game! | Apr 14 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | and that was fucking awesome! | Apr 14 06:36 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: what no it's not heh heh, not the anti virus and such business, that's about taking advantage of computer ignorance | Apr 14 06:36 |
| DaemonFC | and I'm sure that was tax money well spent | Apr 14 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: and selling products, instead of making it clear to people, that they should rei nstall the OS, if htey got malware relaly | Apr 14 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: to make sure it's properly gone | Apr 14 06:37 |
| cubezzz | computer users seem to be getting dumber | Apr 14 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | people should learn what I just said at school ideally, and the reason to why | Apr 14 06:37 |
| sebsebseb | ,but no that doesn't happen | Apr 14 06:37 |
| formic_ | computers are opening up to people who aren't technical | Apr 14 06:38 |
| scientes | cubezzz, the fact that they put up with iPhrauds is proof | Apr 14 06:38 |
| scientes | my mom loves linux | Apr 14 06:38 |
| formic_ | its a good thing, keeps prices down for us | Apr 14 06:38 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: cubezzz DaemonFC average people don't care much about computers, they just want to use for basic tasks, and that's that, same for phones | Apr 14 06:38 |
| formic_ | they dont want to use a computer | Apr 14 06:38 |
| sebsebseb | scientes: for you as well ^ | Apr 14 06:38 |
| formic_ | they want to use the internet | Apr 14 06:38 |
| cubezzz | I can't even think of ipad as a computer | Apr 14 06:38 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: yep exactly | Apr 14 06:39 |
| scientes | cubezzz, cant even do multitasking! | Apr 14 06:39 |
| formic_ | i dont blame them | Apr 14 06:39 |
| formic_ | the internet is amazing | Apr 14 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | <scientes> DaemonFC,yeah, hair curling... http://i.imgur.com/fX7TM.gif | Apr 14 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: and they want to use a word proccessor useauly at times to and psosbily a spread sheet and slide show | Apr 14 06:39 |
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| DaemonFC | those do not look like hair curlers | Apr 14 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | they want to use Internet and office suite | Apr 14 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | oh and games for certain people | Apr 14 06:39 |
| DaemonFC | but it could explain why they're in there for so long | Apr 14 06:39 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, you finially got that? | Apr 14 06:39 |
| sebsebseb | average computer users want to go on social networkings ites a lot of them, and send email, and use onlien chat | Apr 14 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | I just clicked on it | Apr 14 06:40 |
| formic_ | they're just users | Apr 14 06:40 |
| sebsebseb | as a result for many people a Android phone can replace a computer a lot of the time for what they want to do at the time | Apr 14 06:40 |
| scientes | sebsebseb, canonical is trying to sell ubuntu on those things | Apr 14 06:40 |
| scientes | the ones that have hdmi | Apr 14 06:40 |
| sebsebseb | technically a Android phone is a computer as well, but you know what I Mean :) | Apr 14 06:40 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/ChangeLog-3.2.15 | Apr 14 06:40 |
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| sebsebseb | scientes: hdmi sounds familur, what's that? | Apr 14 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | Linux 3.2.15 is out | Apr 14 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical are trying to get Ubuntu out their with their branding that I really dislike since 10.04, with the exception of the logo | Apr 14 06:41 |
| formic_ | an android smart phone is more powerful than computers people had 8 years ago | Apr 14 06:41 |
| *cubezzz fires up VM/SP | Apr 14 06:41 | |
| scientes | sebsebseb, http://lmgtfy.com/?=hdmi+wikipedia | Apr 14 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Let me google that for you .::. Size~: 35.64 KB | Apr 14 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | https://lwn.net/Articles/492315/ | Apr 14 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux 3.2.15 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 13.6 KB | Apr 14 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical want to take free software to the masses that's basically what JOno Bacon would say for example | Apr 14 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | and I guess that's true really, but they also want to make money whilst doing this | Apr 14 06:41 |
| sebsebseb | Canonical apparnatly still don't make a profit | Apr 14 06:41 |
| DaemonFC | well, 12.04 is actually usable | Apr 14 06:41 |
| scientes | sebsebseb, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hdmi+wikipedia | Apr 14 06:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Let me google that for you .::. Size~: 35.64 KB | Apr 14 06:41 |
| scientes | \damn i did it wrong | Apr 14 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | by that I mean they've worked out all of the really annoying problems and all the serious crash bugs | Apr 14 06:42 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - ubuntu is not usable | Apr 14 06:42 |
| DaemonFC | at least, I haven't gotten it to crash yet | Apr 14 06:42 |
| *sebsebseb thinks DaemonFC has becomea Unity fan :D | Apr 14 06:42 | |
| *sebsebseb has been trying out Mate in Mint 12 this week, rather impressed with Mate :) | Apr 14 06:42 | |
| sebsebseb | Gnome Shell with the Mint extensions is ok as wel | Apr 14 06:42 |
| formic_ | it literally started ignoring the existence of files you're trying to access via the command line | Apr 14 06:42 |
| formic_ | also moved a file in the cli using mv and it disappeared | Apr 14 06:43 |
| formic_ | ubuntu is noobified | Apr 14 06:43 |
| cubezzz | yeah I never touch ubuntu | Apr 14 06:43 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu is trying to aim them selves at the masses, hence propritary software for sale in software centre, Ubuntu One, music store as well, and yep Unity | Apr 14 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | it's easy to add Synaptic and Gdebi back | Apr 14 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | and well Ubuntu TV eventually as well for people to buy as well for example | Apr 14 06:44 |
| formic_ | to be fair, unity kicks the shit out of gnome 3 | Apr 14 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | and hide that software center | Apr 14 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: yep | Apr 14 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | yep if I am on Ubuntu I'll sudo apt-get install for example or use Synaptic | Apr 14 06:44 |
| sebsebseb | software centre doesn't really interest me much | Apr 14 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | in fact, their software center apparently does not get on well with dark GTK+ themes | Apr 14 06:44 |
| DaemonFC | which is really annoying | Apr 14 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: I think Unity without their branding which I realy dislike the newer branding, I think without that branding and something that looks nicer | Apr 14 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: it would be better | Apr 14 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | maybe even with the buttons on the right with that other theme :D, but that doesn't me much that they are on left anyway | Apr 14 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | doesn't bother me much, above | Apr 14 06:45 |
| formic_ | gnome 3 has them on the left too | Apr 14 06:45 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome Shell hmm, I still much prefer the old preview version that I still got in Mandriva 2010.2 on the other computer, that goes on top of Gnome 2 | Apr 14 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | I hate light colored application themes | Apr 14 06:46 |
| DaemonFC | they're hard on the eyes | Apr 14 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | after those kind of versions, they added a dock down the left hand side and uh, well that's not that bad, but hmm | Apr 14 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | that's like Apple and Unity | Apr 14 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: no it doesn't have the icons on the left in Gnome Shell | Apr 14 06:46 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I quite like Gnome 2 still, Gnome Shell is ok, and Unity is ok, but I have a feeling with Mageia 2, I'll probably start using KDE more, and maybe even LXDE a bit here and there | Apr 14 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | or a lot depends | Apr 14 06:47 |
| sebsebseb | well yeah KDE, there won't be Mate in the Mageia 2 repo's for example | Apr 14 06:47 |
| formic_ | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bMO0QXkWhNA/TZ0n2sVMB-I/AAAAAAAAAG8/6xPzhqmS3fE/s800/gnome-3-window-management.jpg | Apr 14 06:48 |
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| sebsebseb | unless it's added some how later hmm | Apr 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: the minimise, maximise, and close button's | Apr 14 06:48 |
| formic_ | ohhhh | Apr 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | not the dock down the left | Apr 14 06:48 |
| formic_ | what about the stupidly big window bars | Apr 14 06:48 |
| sebsebseb | which is really called a dash | Apr 14 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | and I think that's in both Gnome Shell and Unity with it called a dash really | Apr 14 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: big window bars? | Apr 14 06:49 |
| formic_ | yeah | Apr 14 06:49 |
| formic_ | the title bars | Apr 14 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | what? | Apr 14 06:49 |
| sebsebseb | oh | Apr 14 06:49 |
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| sebsebseb | formic_: well GNome 3.4 for some apps has something like Unity's global menu it seems | Apr 14 06:50 |
| formic_ | ugh | Apr 14 06:50 |
| formic_ | thats why I use kde | Apr 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: not default though I don't think | Apr 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | Gnome Shell and Unity rather similar | Apr 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | also how apps are shown well the icons for for example, very similar | Apr 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | loads of them together, and then hard to find it, but there's a search feature built in to both | Apr 14 06:50 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: KDE tends to look quite like Windows by default in most distro's | Apr 14 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | ,but that's good really | Apr 14 06:52 |
| sebsebseb | however customising it anything more than the background changer slide show, and possbily enabling the screensaver | Apr 14 06:53 |
| sebsebseb | and I tend to get in a mess, rather geekey to customise KDE 4 is realy | Apr 14 06:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Panama: Village of the damned - People & Power - Al Jazeera English http://ur1.ca/9022k via @ajenglish | Apr 14 06:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 @speeddefrost Windows has detected you've moved your mouse. Reboot now? | Apr 14 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mairin ugh i need to touch a mac. /me puts on gloves | Apr 14 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mairin and at 2:28 pm the #gimp blog post has had the most visits in a single day of any post i've made. #takethatphotoshop | Apr 14 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mairin i was told there was little interest in #gimp bc it sux hard compared to photoshop. will probably have 1k gimp post hits by n ... | Apr 14 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @rejon RT @fabricatorz: Join the Open Font Library: Revolutionary Ideas In Typography http://ow.ly/1iIhc9 | Apr 14 06:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mairin Screencast: Gimp 2.7 for Photoshop Expatriates - give it a try, let me know what you think? http://ur1.ca/8zrod | Apr 14 06:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mairin i love my tools. but my work isn't reliant upon them. it's your creativity, your nogging, that makes you a pro designer, not ... | Apr 14 07:13 | |
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| prurigro | http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/13/2944440/google-oracle-lawsuit-programming-language-copyright | Apr 14 08:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Oracle thinks you can copyright a programming language, Google disagrees | The Verge .::. Size~: 90.16 KB | Apr 14 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | SCOracle is insane | Apr 14 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | and people wonder why I don't want anything from them on my computer | Apr 14 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | even if it is under the GPL | Apr 14 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | if the court rules that a computer programming language is copyrightable, we're all fucked | Apr 14 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | overnight, we lose pretty much everything | Apr 14 08:05 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle would harm the entire industry and even put themselves at risk of being sued many times over | Apr 14 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | if we want to play that game, most languages would suddenly be encumbered, even C | Apr 14 08:07 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92718967 | Apr 14 08:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @OVigia (ovigia)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 00:58:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz they should make a partnership with Mint and make a LMDE KDE……Kmint :) | Apr 14 08:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: isn't c in ISO? | Apr 14 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | so is C# | Apr 14 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Apr 14 08:12 |
| DaemonFC | and the CLR | Apr 14 08:12 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 14 08:12 |
| schestowitz | ECMA I think | Apr 14 08:13 |
| schestowitz | ISO is not egainst patents though | Apr 14 08:13 |
| schestowitz | it has MPEG | Apr 14 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | just because something is an ISO or ECMA standard doesn't mean it's actually safe to use | Apr 14 08:13 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 14 08:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1516426 | Apr 14 08:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If OSs were Cars http://jadi.net/english/2012/04/if-oss-were-cars/ #linux #windows #OSuX | Apr 14 08:13 |
| schestowitz | "Or maybe some people actually like using it, and laugh at elitists. :) " | Apr 14 08:13 |
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| schestowitz | What about OASIS, DaemonFC? | Apr 14 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | even if you're dealing with a company that doesn't make one version for them and one version that their products really use | Apr 14 08:13 |
| DaemonFC | like Microsoft does | Apr 14 08:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: just because something works in housekeeping fosn't mean it's clean | Apr 14 08:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I see what you did there..... :) | Apr 14 08:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] How Africa tweets http://ur1.ca/902au /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai @dammim @flintsoul @thaDopeMaestro | Apr 14 08:14 | |
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| TakinOver | I think OASIS has somewhat stronger reqirements RE "IP" licensing than Ecma and ISO. | Apr 14 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The US government is spewing out docx files now | Apr 14 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up having to download one to read about a US Navy project the other day | Apr 14 08:16 |
| TakinOver | That was my impression during the ODF vs OOXML debates. | Apr 14 08:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk doubtful neighbors would be able to see in | Apr 14 08:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @serk01 Mozilla Builds Video Chat App Using Nothing but Web Standards http://ur1.ca/8z58p /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @dennisMungai @fredmanglis | Apr 14 08:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @arnebab “freedom of the press only applies if you can afford one … now that everyone can afford a press, it only applies if you have ... | Apr 14 08:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla Builds Video Chat App Using Nothing but Web Standards | Webmonkey | Wired.com .::. Size~: 52.35 KB | Apr 14 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | your tax dollars at work | Apr 14 08:16 |
| schestowitz | gates lobbied for it | Apr 14 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | millions more dollars that could have fed the homeless or something gone to Microsoft instead | Apr 14 08:17 |
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| DaemonFC | at least these dollars weren't used to bomb people I guess | Apr 14 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | but it still does damage to society | Apr 14 08:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/s8tjq/canonical_narrows_linux_focus_by_dropping_kubuntu/ | Apr 14 08:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical Narrows Linux Focus By Dropping Kubuntu : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 47.08 KB | Apr 14 08:26 |
| schestowitz | "Seems that Canonical is trying more and more to shove Unity down people's throats. It's a shame that developers are listening to the user base less and less these days." | Apr 14 08:26 |
| schestowitz | "Somehow I don't think the KDE people are going to care much, since most seem to be on other distros." | Apr 14 08:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mandriva ... to get "the opinion and ideas of the community, as well as to feel how strong you are." http://ur1.ca/902dg | Apr 14 08:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] IDF admits barring Palestinians' access to own fields http://ur1.ca/902dx #Israel #Palestine #InjusticeAnywhereIsInjusticeEverywhere | Apr 14 08:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: IDF admits barring Palestinians' access to own fields - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News .::. Size~: 122.18 KB | Apr 14 08:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] How to clean up photos of whiteboards with Gimp http://ur1.ca/902fu /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai | Apr 14 08:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] How to clean up photos of whiteboards with Gimp http://ur1.ca/902fu /cc @kahenya | Apr 14 08:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How to clean up photos of whiteboards with Gimp | Hints and Kinks .::. Size~: 13.24 KB | Apr 14 08:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] http://ur1.ca/902gh #node #javascript #bittorrent -- mindblowing /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO | Apr 14 08:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @coyo http://ur1.ca/902gh #node #javascript #bittorrent -- mindblowing /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO | Apr 14 08:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] "Everyone in the industry at least now knows #Microsoft is an untrustworthy partner" http://bit.ly/ICUMU1 | Apr 14 09:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Because Bacon. http://ur1.ca/902jo | Apr 14 09:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] 20 years since the Bosnian War, Gallery / Slideshow http://ur1.ca/902k4 | Apr 14 09:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] I do like that Blue Systems own NetRunner is referred to directly as a "GNU Linux" distribution. Say it loud, say it proud! | Apr 14 09:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @whistlewright Human madness is a cunning and most feline thing. ~Moby Dick | Apr 14 09:16 | |
| DaemonFC | http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/snopesbinary/Accidents/?action=view¤t=crushroof.mp4 | Apr 14 09:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92726464 | Apr 14 09:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 08:15:23 UTC - Identi.ca: I do like that Blue Systems own NetRunner is referred to directly as a "GNU Linux" distribution. Say it loud, say it proud! | Apr 14 09:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Meh. The ambassadors poll has been made Facebook only. And as I am not on Facebook, I cannot see it. | Apr 14 09:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Apple copies Illumination… Kinda. Poorly. In theory. http://ur1.ca/902qb @nj3ma @dennisMungai @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @RamanusAsango | Apr 14 09:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @coyo http://ur1.ca/902qc xmpp file tranfer proxies are easy to setup !xmpp | Apr 14 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Deals Another Blow to Businesses While Trying to ‘Fix’ the Mess It Created http://ur1.ca/902qe #security #deception | Apr 14 10:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Have you tried #owncloud? as a dropbox alternative | Apr 14 10:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mbjunior Instagram (which is NOT open source) stands to photography just like proprietary Auto-Tune stands to vocal music. !fsf !lis ... | Apr 14 10:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft Deals Another Blow to Businesses While Trying to ‘Fix’ the Mess It Created | Techrights .::. Size~: 83 KB | Apr 14 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sound quality on #Crivins 11 was terrible, twas my fault, 1st time using skype call record & little time to sort levels before recording | Apr 14 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft and #Slashdot http://ur1.ca/902rc #astroturf #pr | Apr 14 10:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Censoring The Pirate Bay is Useless, Research Shows - http://bit.ly/IOjiSj important point; pity graph isn't very clear | Apr 14 10:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Censoring The Pirate Bay is Useless, Research Shows | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.27 KB | Apr 14 10:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gartner is Wrong http://ur1.ca/902t8 | Apr 14 10:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Gartner is Wrong | Techrights .::. Size~: 80.79 KB | Apr 14 10:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Promotion of Microsoft Linux http://ur1.ca/90327 #suse #opensuse #attachmate #novell | Apr 14 10:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Christians are being persecuted http://gu.com/p/36pq6 they are well versed at recognising it, they're obsessed with persecuting folks | Apr 14 10:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Christians are being persecuted, says former archbishop of Canterbury | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 110.14 KB | Apr 14 10:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oh wait, when #Christians persecute & discriminate, that's "doing God's work" #mybad | Apr 14 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Draft Chart Comparing #TRIPS, #TPP and #ACTA - http://bit.ly/HFF4aQ this is really useful | Apr 14 10:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple and Google/Android Suffer the Wrath of intellectual Monopolies http://ur1.ca/903c5 #swpats #android #lodsys | Apr 14 10:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NightJack blogger files claim against the #Times over email hacking http://gu.com/p/36p9b | Apr 14 10:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: NightJack blogger files claim against the Times over email hacking | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 99.26 KB | Apr 14 10:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] American #Nazi Party registers first Washington lobbyist http://goo.gl/h2Uz9 | Apr 14 10:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risks_to_civilization,_humans_and_planet_Earth | Apr 14 10:44 |
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| oiaohm | Nice list DaemonFC | Apr 14 10:47 |
| oiaohm | The miss one grey goo | Apr 14 10:47 |
| oiaohm | Basically grey goo is where we make something that likes munching on humans that we cannot control or stop. | Apr 14 10:49 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it could possibley be munching on everything we depend on to live as well. | Apr 14 10:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] try spideroak.com as alternative to dropbox. it's FOSS. | Apr 14 10:50 | |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra-Terrestrial_Exposure_Law | Apr 14 10:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Kickstarter, we all love what you are doing. So please don't do this. Excuse to her and fix this stuff. #kthxbai htt... http://b1t.it/bjp6 | Apr 14 10:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Kickstarter, we all love what you are doing. So please… .::. Size~: 128.23 KB | Apr 14 10:55 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Yep a sane bio defense law has been removed. | Apr 14 10:57 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: of course it was not just stuff on the moon we had to worry about it what we took there could also evolve. | Apr 14 10:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Olympics 2012: branding 'police' to protect sponsors' exclusive rights - http://bit.ly/JbVimV disgusting: time to #boycottlondon2012 | Apr 14 10:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, in the lack of an atmosphere or hosts to infect, the most a pathogen could do there is lay dormant | Apr 14 10:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: to be correct the moon has an atmosphere just too thin for most things. | Apr 14 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | it has no atmosphere | Apr 14 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | at all | Apr 14 11:01 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: you are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_the_Moon | Apr 14 11:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Unpleasant Whiff of Lobbyists - http://bit.ly/IlfDW4 something rotten in the state of #openstandards consulations #uk | Apr 14 11:03 | |
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| oiaohm | Yes its a very very thing Atmosphere. | Apr 14 11:03 |
| oiaohm | thin | Apr 14 11:03 |
| oiaohm | But there is one on the moon DaemonFC | Apr 14 11:03 |
| oiaohm | Only the strongest of the strong pathogen is going to live in those conditions. | Apr 14 11:04 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: basically moon having no atmosphere is basically a common myth. | Apr 14 11:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Study: #Sharing Patents, Rather Than Blocking Others, Encourages Innovation And Market Success - http://bit.ly/HFH1nK really important | Apr 14 11:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here he is after his hair was trimmed a bit for summer. Usually he’s all fluffy. | Apr 14 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] IN OUR pursuit of a similarity measure for anatomical surfaces (biomedical or otherwise external to one’s body), http://ur1.ca/903h7 | Apr 14 11:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Most of my life I’ve looked roughly the same, which got a little boring. A few months ago I started a little bear http://ur1.ca/903jd | Apr 14 11:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finding someone special who understands my mind is not easy. Finding someone who did the same degree as me (and is not http://ur1.ca/903lo | Apr 14 11:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Focus Change http://ur1.ca/903nl #techrights | Apr 14 11:53 | |
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| oiaohm | H MinceR | Apr 14 11:57 |
| oiaohm | hmm | Apr 14 11:57 |
| MinceR | H | Apr 14 11:57 |
| oiaohm | I was going for Hi | Apr 14 11:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 14 11:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Proprietary lobby triumphs in first #openstandards showdown - http://bit.ly/HFLqqI great report of what was obviously appalling display | Apr 14 11:58 | |
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| oiaohm | And the Hmm is that would make a very warped short greeting. | Apr 14 11:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 14 11:59 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Some interesting notes on (not) using MongoDB. http://ur1.ca/900q4 | Apr 14 12:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Shared a post "" http://ur1.ca/903pc | Apr 14 12:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ooh latest #Mintcast is painfully out of sync | Apr 14 12:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TechBytes in 2012 http://ur1.ca/903s9 #techrights #openbytes | Apr 14 12:23 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92727622 | Apr 14 12:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 09:24:03 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz is there an ogg feed for #TechBytes? I can only find a low quality mp3 one | Apr 14 12:28 |
| schestowitz | That's how wordpress handles it :-( | Apr 14 12:28 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu stopped saying "Linux", not just "GNU" | Apr 14 12:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @dyfet Ubuntu stopped saying "Linux", not just "GNU" | Apr 14 12:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Summary: TechBytes update after last night’s recording THIS YEAR I stayed over at Tim’s house a couple of t http://ur1.ca/903ts | Apr 14 12:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] WTH? "Other people at the meeting included Peter Brown, secretary to the board of standards body Oasis, who argued for... http://b1t.it/bjrP | Apr 14 12:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Try Calligra 2.4 for a New Microsoft Office Alternative http://ur1.ca/903v2 #kde | Apr 14 12:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dream Linux 5 - New and Different http://ur1.ca/903wm #gnu #linux #dreamlinux | Apr 14 12:56 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ircolle/status/191128498969133057?iid=am-182297469113344035599401428&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Apr 14 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ircolle: @schestowitz Congratulations! I wish you all the happiness. Now the important question, do you trust her to debug your code? ;-) | Apr 14 12:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #mozilla demotes #adobe Trash player http://ur1.ca/903wq http://ur1.ca/903wr good move, no plugins needed | Apr 14 12:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Asher_Wolf: Polish police stops cooperation with Project #INDECT b/c of fear of "total surveillance" http://t.co/sCga4ez7 (polish) :D | Apr 14 13:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Trademarks can be as bad as patents http://ur1.ca/903xj #uspto #fail | Apr 14 13:06 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ThistleWeb/status/191133836900438016?iid=am-130280753913344048325768225&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208 | Apr 14 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @ThistleWeb: @schestowitz have you tried feedburner? that's how I turn drupal feeds with enclosures into audiocast feeds | Apr 14 13:09 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92730963 | Apr 14 13:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Gordon Sinclair (thistleweb)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 12:01:31 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz have you tried feedburner? that's how I turn drupal feeds with enclosures into audiocast feeds | Apr 14 13:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92717474 | Apr 14 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alex Maurin (coyo)'s status on Friday, 13-Apr-12 23:36:12 UTC - Identi.ca: i doubt #facebook will listen to anyone. my advice: leave facebook asap | Apr 14 13:13 |
| schestowitz | iophk: MS ruins the Finnish economy | Apr 14 13:13 |
| schestowitz | there must be saturation of unused IT skills | Apr 14 13:13 |
| schestowitz | many out-of-work engineers from Nokia harmed by one single chubby mole | Apr 14 13:14 |
| schestowitz | but remember, it's "wrong" to celebrate Microsoft layoffs | Apr 14 13:14 |
| schestowitz | Cause that means you're "against jobs" /sarcasm | Apr 14 13:14 |
| iophk | I don't see how they should take it sitting down. The damage is great and apparently intentional. | Apr 14 13:15 |
| iophk | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-12/nokia-swaps-trade-like-junk-as-cash-dwindles-corporate-finance.html | Apr 14 13:16 |
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| schestowitz | at least Android us gaining, but Nokia was on course to all-Linux as well | Apr 14 13:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Elsevier - the exploitative, anti #OA publisher worth boycotting - was funding #ALEC http://ur1.ca/903yp leaving only due to backlash | Apr 14 13:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is destroying many jobs in the #eu http://ur1.ca/903yv (Nokia Swaps Trade Like Junk as Cash Dwindles: Corporate Finance) | Apr 14 13:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rupert Murdoch's mouthpieces promote #ALEC http://ur1.ca/903z8 see http://ur1.ca/903z9 | Apr 14 13:20 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92731169 http://identi.ca/notice/92731190 | Apr 14 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 12:10:26 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz that a rediculous trademark claim, but not nearly as bad as software patents. | Apr 14 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 12:11:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I think the whole court system in the US is messed up though. | Apr 14 13:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Massive Nouveau Code Push Happened Today http://ur1.ca/903zq #Nouveau #Linux | Apr 14 13:23 | |
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| iophk | No one survives a partnership with M$ | Apr 14 13:26 |
| iophk | Nokia is proving that point for us again. | Apr 14 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Novell did too | Apr 14 13:30 |
| iophk | Nokia's LInux-based N900 was really good. Too good to be allowed to survive. If it had gone forward there would have been 2 linux-based phone platforms Meego(and co) and Android. As it is, Android is in the lead, racing with iOS. RIM is going away. | Apr 14 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Remember a company called Yahoo? | Apr 14 13:31 |
| iophk | Yes, Novell is gone except as a vehicle to downsell Novell customers over to M$ products. | Apr 14 13:31 |
| schestowitz | It used to have a search engine and some portal and stuff like Geocities | Apr 14 13:31 |
| schestowitz | iophk: they separated that into SUSE, patents, the res | Apr 14 13:31 |
| schestowitz | SUSE: paid $100m bribe to tax Linux for MSFT | Apr 14 13:32 |
| iophk | Sent it to a chop shop. | Apr 14 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Patents: now in Microsoft's portfolio (CPTN) | Apr 14 13:32 |
| schestowitz | The rest is left untouched to die, because it competes with Attahmate's neighbours in Seattle | Apr 14 13:32 |
| schestowitz | they'll prtend it "lost" | Apr 14 13:32 |
| iophk | Chop it into bits and sell the bits. | Apr 14 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Just killing Groupwise and other stuff would arouse regulators | Apr 14 13:33 |
| schestowitz | they need to make it look like mnatural death | Apr 14 13:33 |
| schestowitz | having eaten all the organs they likes (patents, SUSE tax) and spewed out the remainders of the corpse | Apr 14 13:33 |
| iophk | It seems to spend a lot of effort steering customers into M$ products. | Apr 14 13:34 |
| iophk | Downselling as it were. | Apr 14 13:34 |
| schestowitz | "no choice" | Apr 14 13:34 |
| schestowitz | AD - what's left to compete | Apr 14 13:35 |
| schestowitz | eDirectory neglected | Apr 14 13:35 |
| iophk | http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | Apr 14 13:35 |
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| oiaohm | iophk: that is the last remains of netscapes LDAP | Apr 14 13:35 |
| iophk | Interesting heritage. | Apr 14 13:36 |
| oiaohm | Most of Linux kernel developers have now Left Novell. | Apr 14 13:36 |
| oiaohm | The developer incharge of the testing/crap section now works at the Linux foundation. | Apr 14 13:36 |
| iophk | LF is where things are happening now. | Apr 14 13:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: some moved to MSFT | Apr 14 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Like Ky | Apr 14 13:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: he was paid by MSFT anyhow to work on hyper-v support. | Apr 14 13:37 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 14 13:37 |
| schestowitz | exactly, I wrote about this | Apr 14 13:37 |
| iophk | HyperV is a scam. | Apr 14 13:38 |
| schestowitz | now he works DIRECTLY for thre masters | Apr 14 13:38 |
| schestowitz | Greg KH was absorbed by the LF | Apr 14 13:38 |
| schestowitz | as a fellow IIRC | Apr 14 13:38 |
| iophk | It eats up time trying to work and it will never work. | Apr 14 13:38 |
| oiaohm | Greg KH was old SUSE | Apr 14 13:38 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2012/01/linux-kernel-chief-leaves-suse-expands-linux-oversight-role.ars | Apr 14 13:38 |
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| iophk | He hung on a long time. But is now at LF | Apr 14 13:38 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the Old SUSE guys got picked up by other good compies. | Apr 14 13:38 |
| oiaohm | iophk: he was one of the founders of SUSE | Apr 14 13:38 |
| schestowitz | I see them in LinkedIn | Apr 14 13:38 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I can understand his attachment. | Apr 14 13:39 |
| schestowitz | ownCloud absorbed a few (3 I know of, even Markus Rex) | Apr 14 13:39 |
| oiaohm | You don't like seeing you child fail. | Apr 14 13:39 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Apr 14 13:39 |
| iophk | I'm puzzled by it. The company had obviously changed in every point except in name. Many others left when it first happened. | Apr 14 13:39 |
| schestowitz | I heard he's a major playr behidnd creating opensuse | Apr 14 13:39 |
| schestowitz | he still helps suse | Apr 14 13:39 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft wanted Greg KH fired many times for rejection of hyper-v drivers. | Apr 14 13:39 |
| schestowitz | proof? | Apr 14 13:40 |
| iophk | Suse is not needed any more. There are better distros, even not counting the encumberence | Apr 14 13:40 |
| oiaohm | Since the rejection equaled Microsoft having to pay Redhat. | Apr 14 13:40 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: provide proof | Apr 14 13:40 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: The proof will come when the contract between redhat and microsoft eventionally leaks. | Apr 14 13:40 |
| schestowitz | AMD made a mistake giving Novell the RadeonHD project | Apr 14 13:40 |
| schestowitz | they later regretted not giving it to Red Hat, Michael Larabel showed me emails | Apr 14 13:41 |
| oiaohm | And today its part of the redhat maintaince of radion drivers. | Apr 14 13:41 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, Greg KH complained about the crappy MS drivers | Apr 14 13:41 |
| schestowitz | but he did include them | Apr 14 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Recently they rewrote those | Apr 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz | And got claim of "top contributor (17th) | Apr 14 13:42 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: to be correct go back he deleted them from the testing tree at one point for lack of progress. | Apr 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz | for rewriting crappy drivers with Novell staff | Apr 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz | Novell staff that now has @microsoft.com suffix | Apr 14 13:42 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so causing the MS ouch with the redhat contract. | Apr 14 13:42 |
| iophk | A lot of revising of crappy code makes for a lot of commits. Bloated code makes for a lot of lines of code committed. | Apr 14 13:42 |
| iophk | Volume != progress. | Apr 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | MS claimd 20k lines of code at first | Apr 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | but it was a bit of a lie | Apr 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | Homer from COLA counted | Apr 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | it's more like 13k | Apr 14 13:43 |
| oiaohm | Volume in Linux kernel in a particular driver normally shows problems. | Apr 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | they buffered it with crurf | Apr 14 13:43 |
| oiaohm | Really 20k lines of code was the first submit to Greg KH | Apr 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | *cruft | Apr 14 13:43 |
| oiaohm | That he rejected because it contained dead code and other bad bad things. | Apr 14 13:44 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: they DDOSed him | Apr 14 13:44 |
| iophk | They aspire to become cruft. :P | Apr 14 13:44 |
| schestowitz | ghqat driver just poisons the kernel | Apr 14 13:44 |
| iophk | Yes, it was a DOS of K-H | Apr 14 13:44 |
| schestowitz | then they point at Linux and say, "look how crappy it is" | Apr 14 13:44 |
| oiaohm | Yep first driver for hyper-v was a super blob. | Apr 14 13:44 |
| schestowitz | MS does "communism", poorl;y | Apr 14 13:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Look familiar? - http://bit.ly/IEKILe "online game for #Londoners which researchers hope will influence the shape of the nation’s capital" | Apr 14 13:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Look familiar? - Research - University of Cambridge .::. Size~: 36.43 KB | Apr 14 13:45 |
| iophk | Does everything poorly. It's part of their style. | Apr 14 13:46 |
| oiaohm | I do like that Microsoft WGA and activation method was stolen from anther company called unilock. | Apr 14 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Really MS does not just do stuff poorly | Apr 14 13:48 |
| oiaohm | They steal designs from others and try to hide the evidence. | Apr 14 13:48 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there is a book I have been meaning to mention to you. http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Drive-Making-Microsoft-Empire/dp/0887306292 | Apr 14 13:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Amazon.com: Hard Drive: Bill Gates and the Making of the Microsoft Empire (9780887306297): James Wallace, Jim Erickson: Books .::. Size~: 334.77 KB | Apr 14 13:50 |
| oiaohm | Have you read the book Hard Drive? | Apr 14 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Covers the under handed ways Gates and Microsoft tries to get applications. | Apr 14 13:51 |
| iophk | Haven't read it. | Apr 14 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Its funny you want to sell a program to Microsoft they want to see the source in advance. | Apr 14 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Its documented in that book. | Apr 14 13:51 |
| oiaohm | Its funny that Microsoft does not what to show everyone else there source code. | Apr 14 13:51 |
| oiaohm | I really do wonder how much is copyright infringing. | Apr 14 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Gates is not a coder | Apr 14 13:53 |
| schestowitz | it's a family of lawyers | Apr 14 13:53 |
| schestowitz | Politics and subversion of rules if the game | Apr 14 13:53 |
| schestowitz | *is | Apr 14 13:53 |
| oiaohm | That is the book that the creator of unilock read before doing business with Microsoft so would not sign off on MS contract. | Apr 14 13:53 |
| MinceR | 144817 < oiaohm> They steal designs from others and try to hide the evidence. | Apr 14 13:53 |
| oiaohm | Funny enough unilock also holds the first issued software patent. | Apr 14 13:53 |
| MinceR | and they screw them up. | Apr 14 13:53 |
| oiaohm | And it was issued in Australia in 1992 | Apr 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | They bought sidekick and kicked it in the side | Apr 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | the OS is dead | Apr 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | it was BSD-based | Apr 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | this is the former company of the man who created Android | Apr 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Rubin | Apr 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's still a troll | Apr 14 13:54 |
| schestowitz | uniloc is only glamorised in the .au media | Apr 14 13:55 |
| oiaohm | Really not. | Apr 14 13:55 |
| schestowitz | How can one 'own' an idea? | Apr 14 13:55 |
| oiaohm | Unilock had a patent for what he had invented. Only used that patent when he found out his copyright had been breached. | Apr 14 13:55 |
| schestowitz | where is their product? | Apr 14 13:56 |
| oiaohm | Problem in usa a copyright case has to prove value. | Apr 14 13:56 |
| oiaohm | http://www.uniloc.com/index.php/industries/ | Apr 14 13:59 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: uniloc designs software activation and restriction systems. | Apr 14 13:59 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: they do sell those systems completed. | Apr 14 13:59 |
| schestowitz | [13:50] <oiaohm> schestowitz: there is a book I have been meaning to mention to you. http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Drive-Making-Microsoft-Empire/dp/0887306292 | Apr 14 13:59 |
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| schestowitz | Hard Drive is what BIll Gates wishes he had | Apr 14 14:00 |
| schestowitz | All he has is micro soft | Apr 14 14:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Pitfall Three: Free Software Has No Cost" http://ur1.ca/90457 it's OK to make money from scarce resources: services/time/knowledge | Apr 14 14:00 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: the two authers document Bill gates methods that got him where his is. | Apr 14 14:00 |
| schestowitz | it's not just his methods | Apr 14 14:00 |
| schestowitz | his mom's and dad's | Apr 14 14:00 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: basically Uniloc was the first to make software activation that stuck to hardware. | Apr 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | it's a family project/effort | Apr 14 14:01 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so Uniloc is not a troll. Its a company using a patent to protect its products from breach of copyright. | Apr 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | why not use copyright law? | Apr 14 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Entidades batem no Portal do Software Público - http://bit.ly/HBYsk8 some pretty outrageous #FUD here #brazil #opensource | Apr 14 14:01 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: USA copyright law you have to prove value. If company can win that your product is worthless than 1000 dollars they never have to pay up. | Apr 14 14:02 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: this is why the media industry tried using thieft charges recently in the USA and have lost on that. | Apr 14 14:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: general USA copyright enforcement suxs basically. | Apr 14 14:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: patent someone cannot weasel out by claiming your product is not worth much. | Apr 14 14:04 |
| oiaohm | Most of the companies uniloc is dealing with are usa based. | Apr 14 14:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #RaspberryPi Deliveries have started! - http://bit.ly/HIPAeD form an orderly queue #linux #education | Apr 14 14:05 | |
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| oiaohm | A IP troll in my point of view is someone who 1) does not make a product that uses the patent they are enforcing 2) did not make the IP in the first place. | Apr 14 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Uniloc does both so not a troll. | Apr 14 14:06 |
| schestowitz | fair enough | Apr 14 14:06 |
| schestowitz | I thought they had no products | Apr 14 14:06 |
| schestowitz | just man with van and patent | Apr 14 14:06 |
| schestowitz | but swpats are evil | Apr 14 14:07 |
| oiaohm | He likes designing at the beach. | Apr 14 14:07 |
| oiaohm | So he built office in van. | Apr 14 14:07 |
| oiaohm | This is really how much of a inventor the guy is. | Apr 14 14:07 |
| oiaohm | Really lot of swpats would not be required if USA copyright law worked properly and did not have loop holes where infringes could avoid paying up. | Apr 14 14:08 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Uniloc was the base of large section of the shareware game. | Apr 14 14:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Living in the #sharing economy: Is the Internet making us more honest? - http://tnw.co/Inkng8 thought-provoking analysis | Apr 14 14:10 | |
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| MinceR | i don't think that the DRM is the interesting part of a good game | Apr 14 14:11 |
| oiaohm | Really I don't like uniloc product on the fact you move software to another machine and it fails you can basically bet there tech is part of the game. | Apr 14 14:11 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I really find it funny that MS could not invent there own DRM so had to steal it. | Apr 14 14:12 |
| MinceR | i don't find it surprising | Apr 14 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Note I said funny. | Apr 14 14:12 |
| oiaohm | Not that I was surprised. | Apr 14 14:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 14 14:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Party Ordered to Shut Down Pirate Bay Proxy - http://bit.ly/HysfeN & do so, under protest | Apr 14 14:15 | |
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| oiaohm | Its like MS please respect our copyright while we stomp over everyone elses. | Apr 14 14:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The US govt. has just released a new distro, LPS 1.3.3 http://ur1.ca/4r1br #gnu #linux | Apr 14 14:18 | |
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| schestowitz | Some PR agents of UNILOC contacted me before | Apr 14 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Demand for Linux Skills Sets a New Record This Month http://ur1.ca/90499 #linux | Apr 14 14:21 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: UNILOC PR agents I guess were bad at there job as normal. | Apr 14 14:23 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: not really understanding our point of view. | Apr 14 14:23 |
| oiaohm | Ie not presenting case this is the product we sell and we are defending it. | Apr 14 14:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.datamation.com/news/tech-comics-microsoft-office-2.html | Apr 14 14:25 |
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| schestowitz | "we"? | Apr 14 14:26 |
| schestowitz | .au? | Apr 14 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How will the new law on cookies affect internet browsing? http://gu.com/p/36p78 | Apr 14 14:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How will the new law on cookies affect internet browsing? | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 257.77 KB | Apr 14 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, I tipped #Everton & #Spurs as the #FACup finalists - one wrong out of one so far !football | Apr 14 14:28 | |
| *Faither (~faither@krlh-5f73577b.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #techrights | Apr 14 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's a common "get out of jail free" card played, which diverts the answer by not answering it "to improve the user experience" #cookies | Apr 14 14:36 | |
| schestowitz | hi Faither | Apr 14 14:50 |
| Faither | Hiya schestowitz | Apr 14 14:51 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/92732942 | Apr 14 14:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 13:26:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz demand in my area isn't very high :-( The Netherlands has more demand for MS monkies. | Apr 14 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Faither: new episode is out | Apr 14 14:52 |
| Faither | already listened to it ^^ | Apr 14 14:52 |
| Faither | schestowitz: nice to know you're still at it (; | Apr 14 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Apr 14 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Tim is the busier one | Apr 14 14:53 |
| Faither | Gordon and Tim were talking about it on Crivins | Apr 14 14:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @mageia Mageia 2 beta 3 is on the way http://dlvr.it/1RKwFP | Apr 14 14:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shadowrun Returns: $1 million in pledges guarantee Linux port http://ur1.ca/904f3 #linux #games | Apr 14 14:56 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Shadowrun Returns: $1 million in pledges guarantee Linux port - Joystiq .::. Size~: 6.39 KB | Apr 14 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Faither: listening now.. | Apr 14 14:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linaro's DMZ for the ARMies http://ur1.ca/904gg #amd #linux | Apr 14 15:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linaro's DMZ for the ARMies - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 46.21 KB | Apr 14 15:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cisco Updates Linux Powered Networking Gear http://ur1.ca/904hd #cisco #linux | Apr 14 15:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] fair play to City, after Balotelli, they got a sniff of a chance at the league & took it today, 3 points closer & better goal diff !football | Apr 14 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sandy Bridge based Chromebook demoed at IDF Beijing http://ur1.ca/904m9 #idf #intel #linux | Apr 14 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @jwyg: Impressed that there have been more than 700+ entries to the Data Journalism Awards. Some interes http://p.ost.im/p/ebNHDA | Apr 14 15:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @petermurrayrust: http://t.co/0PaNt9nq what I said in Rome Horizon2020 http://p.ost.im/p/ebjqUX | Apr 14 15:38 | |
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| schestowitz | oh, the anti-Linux troll is still at it http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/253787/why_switching_os_platforms_is_not_a_security_fix.html | Apr 14 15:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Switching OS Platforms Is Not a Security Fix | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 82.44 KB | Apr 14 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Banned From #Kickstarter For Being #Cyberstalked http://goo.gl/BZd2O and I thought Kickstarter were supposed to be the good guys | Apr 14 15:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Banned From Kickstarter For Being Cyberstalked - Slashdot .::. Size~: 254.54 KB | Apr 14 15:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] European public services must follow Iceland's open-source lead http://ur1.ca/904nt #iceland | Apr 14 15:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New York Times Includes Open Source Mini-Game http://ur1.ca/904o4 #opensource | Apr 14 15:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New York Times Includes Open Source Mini-Game | ITProPortal.com .::. Size~: 32.43 KB | Apr 14 15:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when I was young I used to think today was Gran National day, with grannies racing, not #GrandNational day for horses #GOGRANNIES! | Apr 14 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Olympics sportswear by #Adidas made in 'sweatshop' conditions http://gu.com/p/36pq4 why would there be an exception for one range or theme? | Apr 14 16:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] of course #Adidas will investigate, just give some notice so the factory can put on a show, then turn up to say everything is fine | Apr 14 16:00 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Olympics sportswear by Adidas made in 'sweatshop' conditions – reports | Sport | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 136.69 KB | Apr 14 16:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Little boy lost finds his mother using #GoogleEarth http://goo.gl/I8BY5 | Apr 14 16:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Little boy lost finds his mother using Google Earth .::. Size~: 73.95 KB | Apr 14 16:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Short film challenges 'scarred baddies' stereotype http://goo.gl/PAgjB | Apr 14 16:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Short film challenges 'scarred baddies' stereotype .::. Size~: 66.31 KB | Apr 14 16:03 |
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| -NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host109-145-80-53.range109-145.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) | Apr 14 16:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft-friendly sites cherry-pick Androiid-hostile talking points, e.g. http://ur1.ca/904rh | Apr 14 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Now this is is a great tool I needed for a loong time! http://ur1.ca/904ri #utf8 !webdev ☺ ♥ | Apr 14 16:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The problem with Android, part 3 | Dwight Silverman's TechBlog - seattlepi.com .::. Size~: 99.37 KB | Apr 14 16:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why women shouldn't trust @kickstarter ? That seems to be an object lesson here? http://b1t.it/bju3 | Apr 14 16:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why women shouldn't trust @kickstarter ? That seems to be the object lesson here? http://ur1.ca/904ry... http://b1t.it/bju4 | Apr 14 16:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Open Source Drug Discovery Is Helping India Develop New Drugs http://ur1.ca/904s6 #india #sharing | Apr 14 16:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Forbes India Magazine - How Open Source Drug Discovery Is Helping India Develop New Drugs .::. Size~: 93.53 KB | Apr 14 16:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wikipedia Loses Google Maps For Open Street Maps http://ur1.ca/904ul #opendata | Apr 14 16:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wikipedia Loses Google Maps For Open Street Maps | DrJays.com Live | Fashion. Music. Lifestyle .::. Size~: 53.68 KB | Apr 14 16:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Woohoo! A new #RomanticallyApocalyptic comic is out: bit.ly/IyCP8R ♥⚛ | Apr 14 16:28 | |
| schestowitz | http://local.stv.tv/edinburgh/news/features/32790-five-a-day-skeptics-samba-and-open-source-supporters/ | Apr 14 16:29 |
| schestowitz | "Open source bloggers unite – WordPress Scotland is holding a local meetup at Mexican hangout Illegal Jack’s from 5:30pm. The informal conference is an opportunity to meet other WordPress users, designers, developers and enthusiasts while munching on TexMex. Bring along some examples of your work to show others, or come along to simply to ask questions and get some advice. The meetup is free. To RSVP, visit the WPScotland website." | Apr 14 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five-a-day: Skeptics, samba and open source supporters | Features | Edinburgh | STV .::. Size~: 31.15 KB | Apr 14 16:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | "Illegal Jack's" | Apr 14 16:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats CAPTAIN Illegal jack | Apr 14 16:31 |
| *Diablo-D3 runs | Apr 14 16:31 | |
| formic_ | hopefully nobody gets kidnapped or beheaded | Apr 14 16:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING! ...not. ♻ @telecomix: #Facebook Promises They Will Not Abuse Your #Privacy With #CISPA http://t.co/htV7h3nA | Apr 14 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !plasma !kde, I need some help with handling config (any config will do!) in a #QML/JS plasmoid. the simpler teh better! | Apr 14 16:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why !OpenSource Is the Key to Cloud Innovation - PC Advisor http://ping.fm/do7eB | Apr 14 16:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] UKIP: Assange case is 'legalized kidnapping' | RT https://t.co/oDo5Te3x | Apr 14 16:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 14/4/2012: Mandriva Speaks Out, Firefox Demotes Flash http://ur1.ca/9052y #techrights | Apr 14 17:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Why hasn't Microsoft figured out how to delete a print job form the queue in Windows? This problem has been around for almost 20 years! | Apr 14 17:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] We have a great series on Kdenlive (open source video editor), check out their fundraising campaign | http://ow.ly/adfzG | Apr 14 17:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @joabj Why hasn't Microsoft figured out how to delete a print job form the queue in Windows? This problem... almost 20 years! | Apr 14 17:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://i.imgur.com/nQCb9.jpg | Apr 14 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://imgur.com/XL7C7 | Apr 14 17:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Morosini dead after collapsing on pitch http://goo.gl/LIm0j !football | Apr 14 17:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Livorno's Piermario Morosini has died after collapsing on the pitch | The Sun |Sport|Football .::. Size~: 54.71 KB | Apr 14 17:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz How Open Source Drug Discovery Is Helping India Develop New Drugs http://ur1.ca/904s6 #india #sharing | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz European public services must follow Iceland's open-source lead http://ur1.ca/904nt #iceland | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Sandy Bridge based Chromebook demoed at IDF Beijing http://ur1.ca/904m9 #idf #intel #linux | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Cisco Updates Linux Powered Networking Gear http://ur1.ca/904hd #cisco #linux | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Demand for Linux Skills Sets a New Record This Month http://ur1.ca/90499 #linux | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz The US govt. has just released a new distro, LPS 1.3.3 http://ur1.ca/4r1br #gnu #linux | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] We can win the Champs League! http://goo.gl/UOjJN rofl only if it ends at the 1st group stage & all the top teams are disqualified #Celtic | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Pirate Party Ordered to Shut Down Pirate Bay Proxy - http://bit.ly/HysfeN & do so, under protest | Apr 14 17:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Forbes India Magazine - How Open Source Drug Discovery Is Helping India Develop New Drugs .::. Size~: 93.53 KB | Apr 14 17:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Entidades batem no Portal do Software Público - http://bit.ly/HBYsk8 some pretty outrageous #FUD here #brazil #opensource | Apr 14 17:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Nearly 6pm here so good evening or good afternoon !Identiverse :). | Apr 14 17:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oops, got caught with another #Sun sensationalised title that takes all the nuance out of the actual quote; shoulda known better #mybad | Apr 14 17:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia 2 Beta 3 will be delayed a few days or so: http://ur1.ca/905bo #Mageia | Apr 14 17:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mageia 2 beta 3 is on the way | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 29.66 KB | Apr 14 17:53 |
| formic_ | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17190334 | Apr 14 18:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Raspberry Pi computer in action .::. Size~: 69.11 KB | Apr 14 18:05 |
| schestowitz | 29 February 2012 | Apr 14 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Rory Cellan-Jones | Apr 14 18:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17705932 | Apr 14 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Controversy over Mexico's 'criminal children' video .::. Size~: 70.23 KB | Apr 14 18:11 |
| iophk | formic_: that's an interesting article fragment, is there more? | Apr 14 18:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wspaniały wywiad z prof. Zygmuntem Baumanem, o kulturze w Internecie - i dużo szerzej: http://ur1.ca/905et **"Kiedy http://ur1.ca/905ev | Apr 14 18:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks' Assange to launch talk show | CNN http://t.co/9XNtUjnt | Apr 14 18:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: W necie ludzie nie zabieraj± sobie cudzej muzyki. Oni jej tylko s³uchaj± .::. Size~: 78.69 KB | Apr 14 18:11 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks' Assange to launch TV talk show - CNN.com .::. Size~: 50.46 KB | Apr 14 18:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] M.I.A. records music for Julian Assange TV show | Rolling Stone http://t.co/bwOOzOB4 | Apr 14 18:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: M.I.A. Records Music for Julian Assange TV Show | Music News | Rolling Stone .::. Size~: 54.31 KB | Apr 14 18:16 |
| formic_ | <iophk> video | Apr 14 18:17 |
| iophk | Oh… Thanks. Is there a transcript or text-only version? | Apr 14 18:18 |
| formic_ | i dunno | Apr 14 18:18 |
| formic_ | video not working for you? | Apr 14 18:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I've swapped out an under-performing slave server for a brand new one. Let me know if you see weirdness. | Apr 14 18:18 | |
| schestowitz | not even in rekonq | Apr 14 18:18 |
| schestowitz | mauybe js trcisk | Apr 14 18:18 |
| formic_ | works in qupzilla | Apr 14 18:19 |
| formic_ | rekonq crashes for me when I try to make bookmarks - lol | Apr 14 18:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @CNNMex: Julian #Assange , fundador de #WikiLeaks, estrenará su 'talk show' en Rusia http://t.co/N1kWd9Ey | Apr 14 18:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange estrena programa de televisión esta semana - El fenómeno WikiLeaks - Mundo - CNNMéxico.com .::. Size~: 52.75 KB | Apr 14 18:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT editor-in-chief says #Assange's first interview is so controversial that it "will lead to calls to shut us down" | http://t.co/B5SXv9v7 | Apr 14 18:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Secrecy surrounds Julian Assange talk show | WORLD News .::. Size~: 38.88 KB | Apr 14 18:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] On the UI design front, !KDE/!Plasma #QML is awesome. on documentation and config storage seems excuciatingly messed up. :/ | Apr 14 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Trouble in Trolltown? Judges are increasingly catching on to #copyright trolls' unfair tactics. https://eff.org/r.X87 | Apr 14 18:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trouble in Trolltown | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 37.58 KB | Apr 14 18:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] For Your Safety!!1! ♻ @Asher_Wolf: TSA Agent Arrested For Stealing iPads Out Of Luggage http://t.co/CnGh91t6 #USA #TSA | Apr 14 18:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TSA inspector accused of stealing iPads at DFW Airport | Airlines and Aviation | Dallas ... .::. Size~: 75.61 KB | Apr 14 18:36 |
| schestowitz | v | Apr 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/martinvars/status/177055455812648962 | Apr 14 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @martinvars: RPX Corporation - on patents http://t.co/caMsoiMU worth studying | Apr 14 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/177057648045338624 | Apr 14 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: @martinvars Defensive patent pools does not work against trolls. Nokia is now proxying patents through MOSAID Sarl recently setuped in Lux. | Apr 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | inded zoobab_ | Apr 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | *indeed | Apr 14 18:42 |
| schestowitz | big crime is not a crime though | Apr 14 18:43 |
| Faither | schestowitz: So you don't use the middle mouse button to paste? ; ) | Apr 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | those things are obvious to all, except regulators | Apr 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Faither: I use both | Apr 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | usually to grba tow bits at one | Apr 14 18:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jpope @whistlewright DISCLAIMER: Anyone who takes me seriously should have their head examined http://b1t.it/bjwE | Apr 14 18:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Silner (silner)'s status on Saturday, 14-Apr-12 17:43:28 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.37 KB | Apr 14 18:43 |
| schestowitz | *two at once | Apr 14 18:43 |
| Faither | ^^ | Apr 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | when pasting links with title for example | Apr 14 18:44 |
| schestowitz | grab one, CTRL+C, then highlight the other, then paste with mouse and CTRL+V | Apr 14 18:45 |
| schestowitz | CTRL+ALT+V unfolds klipper | Apr 14 18:45 |
| schestowitz | with last 50 selections to just click on, couldn't live without it | Apr 14 18:45 |
| schestowitz | Windows is a big scary because once you lose clipboard selection there's no way to get it back | Apr 14 18:45 |
| schestowitz | It's like working on a doc on RAM only | Apr 14 18:46 |
| schestowitz | praying there would be no outage/crash | Apr 14 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Wih klipper it's like you copy everything to disk, peace of mind.. | Apr 14 18:46 |
| Faither | schestowitz: Klipper i don't use that often. Ctrl+C/V and middle mouse pasting all the time | Apr 14 18:46 |
| schestowitz | a lot of work these days is like that | Apr 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | instead of copying papers and items | Apr 14 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | like filling out forms, xeroxinng, etc. | Apr 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | Lots of waste in society, lost productuivity | Apr 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | people should only really have to change their address digitally once | Apr 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe then they can use a reference number to the record | Apr 14 18:48 |
| schestowitz | so when a bank or company asks for your personal details you give them this reference | Apr 14 18:49 |
| _Goblin | hello | Apr 14 18:49 |
| schestowitz | you only ever need to keep it updated | Apr 14 18:49 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: ready to record? :-) | Apr 14 18:49 |
| Faither | this would actually have saved me some trouble xD | Apr 14 18:49 |
| _Goblin | lol... | Apr 14 18:49 |
| Faither | Hiya _Goblin | Apr 14 18:49 |
| schestowitz | the privacy thing is not a major issue | Apr 14 18:49 |
| _Goblin | just running Ubuntu at the moment.....decided to take a look | Apr 14 18:49 |
| _Goblin | and its on my main rig...... | Apr 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | you could work around it, giving everyone the same details ruins privacy anyway | Apr 14 18:50 |
| _Goblin | interesting... | Apr 14 18:50 |
| _Goblin | hi Faither! | Apr 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | which v? | Apr 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | 11:10? | Apr 14 18:50 |
| _Goblin | 11.10 | Apr 14 18:50 |
| _Goblin | yeah | Apr 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | I tried 10.04 | Apr 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Unity was confusing mw | Apr 14 18:50 |
| _Goblin | i'm actually very impressed... | Apr 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | 11.04 | Apr 14 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Typo | Apr 14 18:50 |
| Faither | And why would you testdrive pretty much overhauled distros? | Apr 14 18:51 |
| schestowitz | 10.04 is what I use right now, the LTS has another year | Apr 14 18:51 |
| Faither | ^^ | Apr 14 18:51 |
| _Goblin | the only thing I have to get used to is when you maximize the window, its close icon disappears and is accessable in the task bar | Apr 14 18:51 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: can you send more photos from the Christening? | Apr 14 18:51 |
| _Goblin | yes.... funnily enough I have just recieved some more... | Apr 14 18:51 |
| _Goblin | I'll get Michelle to forward on.... | Apr 14 18:51 |
| schestowitz | cool, thank you | Apr 14 18:51 |
| schestowitz | ta | Apr 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | been looking at apartments near London recently | Apr 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Quite pricey indeed compared to here | Apr 14 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I'd say about 50% higher | Apr 14 18:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] No, seriously! Isn't there a way to simply read and write a basic text file in !kde !plasma JavaScript API? I mean, come on! | Apr 14 18:53 | |
| _Goblin | you want to be looking just outside of...better prices. | Apr 14 18:54 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/177141644494249984 | Apr 14 18:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Linux patent defense group does not work against patent trolls http://t.co/AVyjfhlZ #failure | Apr 14 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | _Goblin: that's what I do | Apr 14 18:54 |
| schestowitz | 20 miles odd... | Apr 14 18:54 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: did you get today's email? | Apr 14 18:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/fs111/status/178980824924954625 | Apr 14 19:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fs111: remember when webrings were a thing? | Apr 14 19:00 |
| schestowitz | I still have one in my site :-) | Apr 14 19:00 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I listened to your Crivins episode today.. you could hear Kevie on local/mumble | Apr 14 19:00 |
| MinceR | i remember | Apr 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | I was on the computer ring IIRC | Apr 14 19:01 |
| schestowitz | I drove the most traffic into it | Apr 14 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @inscius: RT @eff Trouble in Trolltown? Judges are increasingly catching on to #copyright trolls' unfair tactics. https://eff.org/r.X87 | Apr 14 19:01 | |
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| formic_ | [13:48] <schestowitz> so when a bank or company asks for your personal details you give them this reference | Apr 14 19:04 |
| formic_ | schestowitz - then the banksters would be able to harass me no matter what | Apr 14 19:04 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/179692953525166080 | Apr 14 19:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Yet another reason why FSFE should reject the 25K EUR given by the Mozilla Foundation http://t.co/F5u81mrg | Apr 14 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab_: Reject? | Apr 14 19:05 |
| schestowitz | Too harsh, they also do lots of good | Apr 14 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek writeConfig("key", "value") seems simple enough to me :P http://ur1.ca/905nv | Apr 14 19:05 | |
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| schestowitz | formic_: how so? | Apr 14 19:05 |
| formic_ | schestowitz - if they always have my digital address, they can always bug me | Apr 14 19:06 |
| Faither | Privacy 0:1 Convinience | Apr 14 19:07 |
| formic_ | not to mention having to do a massive overhaul of the worlds email networks | Apr 14 19:10 |
| formic_ | I'd only want that if they add encryption too | Apr 14 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | encryption is only for terrorists! | Apr 14 19:11 |
| schestowitz | ^sarcasm | Apr 14 19:11 |
| iophk | https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Why_Use_Encryption | Apr 14 19:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: OpenSSH/Why Use Encryption - Wikibooks, open books for an open world .::. Size~: 59.13 KB | Apr 14 19:13 |
| formic_ | http://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/essays/index.html | Apr 14 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | yeah, that's the essay I had in mind | Apr 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | anyway, nothing is for the user | Apr 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | it's for power, but to market it to the public is need to be portrayed as a service to the user | Apr 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | the spying is just 'free' | Apr 14 19:14 |
| formic_ | what spying | Apr 14 19:14 |
| schestowitz | through peer pressure people are forced to use email and often cellphones too | Apr 14 19:14 |
| formic_ | they could use e-mail with gpg | Apr 14 19:15 |
| schestowitz | like password being sent only though those | Apr 14 19:15 |
| formic_ | people can also use layered services on top of the internet that offer encryption | Apr 14 19:17 |
| Faither | people most of the time don't get the concept of why they should be using encryption... | Apr 14 19:18 |
| formic_ | yet, they require search warrants | Apr 14 19:19 |
| Faither | "I have nothing to hide" - "Why would someone be interested in what I'm doing" | Apr 14 19:19 |
| formic_ | LOL | Apr 14 19:19 |
| Faither | good point formic_ ^^ | Apr 14 19:19 |
| formic_ | a persons internet use is a good indication of what is going on inside the home | Apr 14 19:19 |
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| Omega | http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/04/mozilla-builds-video-chat-using-nothing-but-web-standards/ | Apr 14 19:38 |
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| schestowitz | zer0c00l: http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/180218285877510144 | Apr 14 19:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Youtube is censoring one of the videos I posted in some countries, I will stop using it and install my own platform | Apr 14 19:47 |
| schestowitz | zoobab_: which vvideo? | Apr 14 19:47 |
| Omega | or maybe mediagoblin | Apr 14 19:48 |
| schestowitz | iis it still around\? | Apr 14 19:49 |
| schestowitz | tinyogg is kaput | Apr 14 19:49 |
| schestowitz | rendering many links of mine useful | Apr 14 19:49 |
| schestowitz | *useless rather | Apr 14 19:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 350 Shaving Brushes Compared: A Buyer's Guide | Sharpologist http://goo.gl/kh5m7 | Apr 14 19:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Safety razor for begginers | Sharpologist http://goo.gl/4s1gX | Apr 14 20:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Okay, people, read this and brace yourselves for an uphill battle in the #USA: bit.ly/HIyQIe #CISPA !copyfraud | Apr 14 20:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @NorFoWL: Demarche on Social Media http://t.co/nF01swzQ | Apr 14 20:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Not only for +Nicci Moon - some pix from my Moscow trip for all of you to enjoy. http://ur1.ca/905za... http://b1t.it/bjxy | Apr 14 20:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @Bassem_Sabry: Breaking: PEC disqualifies 10 presidential candidates, including Omar Suleiman, K El-Shater, Ayman Nour, Abu Ismail, M ... | Apr 14 20:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: John Pilger: Real Journalism https://t.co/FbOjsFXh | Apr 14 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 9 days time US soldier Bradley Manning will have been detained for 700 days *WITHOUT TRIAL* - legal max is 120 http://t.co/8X4MPNOW | Apr 14 20:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Today marks the 577th day of the closed US Grand Jury against WikiLeaks - no defense lawyers, no reporters, no public http://t.co/STbTIYKh | Apr 14 20:31 | |
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| doubleA- | anyone alive from the UK? | Apr 14 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Nokia Lumia 900 currently sold out on AT&T's site, still available on Amazon http://goo.gl/KrKhp AKA expect 0, stock 1, sell 2 | Apr 14 20:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 3 days time WikiLeaks will have been unlawfully blockaded by VISA, Mastercard, Paypal & US banks for 500 days http://t.co/F2tkiaDj | Apr 14 20:36 | |
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| XFaCE | doubleA-: _Goblin | Apr 14 20:38 |
| doubleA- | hm? | Apr 14 20:38 |
| XFaCE | [15:32] <doubleA-> anyone alive from the UK? | Apr 14 20:38 |
| XFaCE | doubleA-: also schestowitz | Apr 14 20:38 |
| schestowitz | o hai | Apr 14 20:38 |
| doubleA- | ah yes, wondering about the gchq *ahem* thing... | Apr 14 20:38 |
| doubleA- | doesn't seem to be working but not sure where to coordinate with anyone else | Apr 14 20:39 |
| XFaCE | doubleA-: Ireland? | Apr 14 20:40 |
| doubleA- | i am ya | Apr 14 20:40 |
| XFaCE | Windows user | Apr 14 20:40 |
| doubleA- | these things happen | Apr 14 20:40 |
| XFaCE | Ok, now that we are aquainted, what is "gchq"? | Apr 14 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | doubleA-: I am in UK | Apr 14 20:40 |
| XFaCE | doubleA-: oh yeah, sebsebseb too | Apr 14 20:41 |
| doubleA- | sorry was looking for other compatriates re: #optrialathome | Apr 14 20:41 |
| doubleA- | i might be in the wrong place | Apr 14 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] In 6 days time Julian Assange will have been detained and tagged *WITHOUT CHARGE* for 500 days http://t.co/h3BcA4pC #svpol #auspol | Apr 14 20:41 | |
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| XFaCE | perhaps | Apr 14 20:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the last ep of the Verge podcast is hilarious int he middle as desperate #WP7 defenders try to get some of #Microsoft's FUD / PR into things | Apr 14 20:43 | |
| XFaCE | doubleA-: That channel is empty... | Apr 14 20:43 |
| doubleA- | its a twitter tag... sorry.. i'm essentially looking for where anonish folks might be congregating | Apr 14 20:44 |
| XFaCE | I see | Apr 14 20:44 |
| XFaCE | I figured this out | Apr 14 20:44 |
| XFaCE | Try efnet | Apr 14 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Very cool! http://ur1.ca/9064v | Apr 14 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] they all talk like #MVPs, use the talking points of MVPs, yet not one admits to being an MVP; they're all "happy customers" | Apr 14 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the FUD points they use are hilarious; seriously, if you want a laugh, go listen | Apr 14 20:45 | |
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| XFaCE | Ohh! | Apr 14 20:45 |
| XFaCE | doubleA-: You are refering to the DDOS to that UK gov't website | Apr 14 20:45 |
| doubleA- | well i didnt want to say it outright heh | Apr 14 20:46 |
| XFaCE | Don't worry, we won't eat you | Apr 14 20:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "it's made for regular folks" / "you need to spend time to learn it" no, these are opposite concepts, they can't BOTH be true | Apr 14 20:46 | |
| XFaCE | I am a little perplexed though that you are unaware of Anon IRC channels, unless you are a noob (no offence meant) | Apr 14 20:47 |
| doubleA- | i haven't found a desire to be involved until now... so to that degree, yes, noob. im listening to their spreaker broadcast... and they're idiots tbh... | Apr 14 20:48 |
| doubleA- | so i'd like to add some intelligence to that particular conversation. | Apr 14 20:48 |
| doubleA- | firing loic at a URL that doesn't resolve (as they are doing) won't exactly extract their desired results... | Apr 14 20:48 |
| XFaCE | doubleA-: Well, this isn't an Anon channel | Apr 14 20:49 |
| doubleA- | i've figured as much | Apr 14 20:49 |
| cubezzz | it isn't? yikes | Apr 14 20:49 |
| *cubezzz throws down smoke bomb | Apr 14 20:49 | |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: And schestowitz isn't obama's body guard either | Apr 14 20:50 |
| doubleA- | if he were... he'd have prostitutes in cartagena apparently. no payment required. | Apr 14 20:50 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: LOL | Apr 14 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Here, have some cokctail | Apr 14 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Molotov, made in USSR | Apr 14 20:50 |
| XFaCE | In Soviet Russia, Molotov throws you | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: okee dokee | Apr 14 20:51 |
| schestowitz | In Molotov Town, You Throw Soviet Russia | Apr 14 20:52 |
| XFaCE | I gave him the link to http://site.anonnet.org/ | Apr 14 20:52 |
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| XFaCE | I wonder why he didn't just google it | Apr 14 20:52 |
| schestowitz | In Russia, GCHQ DDOSes Anontnet.org | Apr 14 20:52 |
| XFaCE | Could be a mole | Apr 14 20:52 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: *Soviet Russia | Apr 14 20:52 |
| schestowitz | yeah, they do a crackdown here | Apr 14 20:52 |
| XFaCE | Important difference | Apr 14 20:52 |
| schestowitz | that too got leaked | Apr 14 20:52 |
| schestowitz | sotland yard and all | Apr 14 20:52 |
| schestowitz | trying to find groups of people inclined to do activism | Apr 14 20:53 |
| XFaCE | Are you talking about cablegate? | Apr 14 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Gordon mentioned something to that effect in Crivins ep 11 | Apr 14 20:53 |
| XFaCE | is that so | Apr 14 20:53 |
| XFaCE | Scotland Yard | Apr 14 20:53 |
| schestowitz | no, Anomnymous\ | Apr 14 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Although AnonOps defended Wikileaks too | Apr 14 20:53 |
| XFaCE | ok, I'm confused | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | what "crakdown" | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | what got "leaked"? | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | "Scotland yard"? | Apr 14 20:54 |
| schestowitz | when you take down ceack :-) | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | ceack? | Apr 14 20:54 |
| schestowitz | crack | Apr 14 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Dawson's Cracl :-) | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | ok | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | ... | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | What did Gordon mention exactly? | Apr 14 20:54 |
| schestowitz | Dough Son's Creek | Apr 14 20:54 |
| XFaCE | No no serious though | Apr 14 20:55 |
| XFaCE | I'm not sure what you are getting at | Apr 14 20:55 |
| cubezzz | lol | Apr 14 20:55 |
| schestowitz | he talkled about how the UK wants to make it illegal to merely have the copy of software that CAN be used for malicious purposes | Apr 14 20:55 |
| XFaCE | yes, I am aware of this | Apr 14 20:55 |
| *cubezzz gets a screenshot before stuff scrolls off the screen | Apr 14 20:55 | |
| XFaCE | I mean, what does this have to do with doubleA- | Apr 14 20:55 |
| schestowitz | DoubleA7? | Apr 14 20:56 |
| XFaCE | the user who I theroized may be a mole of sorts | Apr 14 20:56 |
| schestowitz | From the Ireland Yard{tm} | Apr 14 20:56 |
| XFaCE | haha ok | Apr 14 20:56 |
| XFaCE | From the beginning | Apr 14 20:56 |
| XFaCE | Who is doing a crackdown? | Apr 14 20:57 |
| XFaCE | Why "here"? | Apr 14 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Sinn Féin | Apr 14 20:57 |
| XFaCE | What the fuck are you talking about? | Apr 14 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Double A 7 | Apr 14 20:57 |
| XFaCE | Ugh | Apr 14 20:57 |
| XFaCE | Roy, I'm not joking | Apr 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz | maybe he didn't like your xface ^_^ | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | seriously, I didn't understand what you were talking about | Apr 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz | I'm jokking a lot right now | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:52] <XFaCE> Important difference | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:52] <schestowitz> that too got leaked | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:52] <schestowitz> sotland yard and all | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:52] <schestowitz> trying to find groups of people inclined to do activism | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:52] <XFaCE> Are you talking about cablegate? | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:53] <schestowitz> Gordon mentioned something to that effect in Crivins ep 11 | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:53] <XFaCE> is that so | Apr 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz | As if they do some survey of groups | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:53] <XFaCE> Scotland Yard | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:53] <schestowitz> no, Anomnymous\ | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | [15:53] <schestowitz> Although AnonOps defended Wikileaks too | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | was any of this a joke?\ | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | (besides the soviet references)? | Apr 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz | No | Apr 14 20:58 |
| XFaCE | ok | Apr 14 20:59 |
| XFaCE | Please elaborate on it. Thank you. | Apr 14 20:59 |
| schestowitz | Anonymous are being hounded here | Apr 14 20:59 |
| schestowitz | a cop told me | Apr 14 20:59 |
| schestowitz | and also, it's in the news | Apr 14 20:59 |
| schestowitz | And Anonymous leaked a tape | Apr 14 20:59 |
| schestowitz | They try to find ringleaders | Apr 14 20:59 |
| XFaCE | Ok | Apr 14 20:59 |
| schestowitz | but they suck at IT | Apr 14 20:59 |
| schestowitz | sometimes they hire crackers just to keep up with the truly IT-savvy crowd | Apr 14 20:59 |
| XFaCE | And you think that the mole I suggested may have though that TR had something to do with Anon? | Apr 14 21:00 |
| _Goblin | mole? | Apr 14 21:00 |
| _Goblin | lol | Apr 14 21:00 |
| _Goblin | what is this, xfiles? | Apr 14 21:00 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I lack a better word | Apr 14 21:00 |
| schestowitz | MOLOL | Apr 14 21:00 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Puppet | Apr 14 21:00 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Troll | Apr 14 21:00 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Fake poster | Apr 14 21:01 |
| schestowitz | TROLOLOLOL | Apr 14 21:01 |
| _Goblin | I think......... | Apr 14 21:01 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Take your pick | Apr 14 21:01 |
| schestowitz | Pick your take | Apr 14 21:01 |
| _Goblin | it would take a little more than a couple of comments for anyone to believe any anon troll that #techrights had anything to do with anon.... | Apr 14 21:01 |
| *schestowitz picks nose.. no, not really | Apr 14 21:01 | |
| XFaCE | clap clap clap | Apr 14 21:02 |
| _Goblin | I could go into #ubuntu and say "Yeah...this is all linked with anon" | Apr 14 21:02 |
| _Goblin | and you think anyone would take it seriously? | Apr 14 21:02 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: nope | Apr 14 21:02 |
| _Goblin | I know our Government is slow.......but its not that slow | Apr 14 21:02 |
| XFaCE | I find it odd though that someone could be so technically incompetent that they can't look up "anon irc" and connect the dots | Apr 14 21:03 |
| schestowitz | they were going after some suspects in Sheffield based on the tape | Apr 14 21:03 |
| _Goblin | maybe they were you know........winding up people? | Apr 14 21:03 |
| schestowitz | !google anon irc | Apr 14 21:03 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Also the fact that he wished to debate the methods of Anon. | Apr 14 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - AnonNet IRC Network | http://site.anonnet.org/ | Apr 14 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - IRC Networks > AnonOps > Channels | http://search.mibbit.com/channels/AnonOps | Apr 14 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - AnonymousIRC (@AnonymousIRC) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/%23!/anonymousirc | Apr 14 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The hackers hacked: main Anonymous IRC servers invaded | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/the-hackers-hacked-main-anonymous-irc-servers-seized.ars | Apr 14 21:03 |
| XFaCE | Wow, two seconds | Apr 14 21:03 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: really, "debate" | Apr 14 21:03 |
| XFaCE | Who the fuck does that ever? | Apr 14 21:03 |
| schestowitz | for the lulz | Apr 14 21:04 |
| XFaCE | "Hello Anon IRC, I'm here to make my case for not using the LOIC. Please carefully consider my points... | Apr 14 21:04 |
| XFaCE | Really | Apr 14 21:04 |
| _Goblin | I don't think anon is any more than 1 or 2 people with "skills" and everyone else is a newb hanger on who thinks thats because they can press a button on the LOIC they are l33t hackers. | Apr 14 21:04 |
| XFaCE | or enter a command prompt and tell it to ping the server | Apr 14 21:05 |
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| XFaCE | _Goblin: I'm just pointing out the very small chances that someone would think that Techrights has anything to do with Anon | Apr 14 21:06 |
| _Goblin | thats why I think its a wind up...... | Apr 14 21:06 |
| XFaCE | !google "wind up" | Apr 14 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Wind-up Records - Official Website | http://www.winduprecords.com/ | Apr 14 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Wind-Up - Yu-Gi-Oh! | http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Wind-Up | Apr 14 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - wind up - definition of wind up by the Free Online Dictionary ... | http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wind%2Bup | Apr 14 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Wind-up - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind-up | Apr 14 21:07 |
| _Goblin | what they want is a comment of support or similar from someone here then they can go off and say "#tech rights supports LOIC/Anon" | Apr 14 21:07 |
| _Goblin | its more transparent than one of ballmers sweaty shirts | Apr 14 21:07 |
| XFaCE | lol | Apr 14 21:07 |
| XFaCE | Well, we didn't do that | Apr 14 21:08 |
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| XFaCE | We didn't make any claim | Apr 14 21:08 |
| XFaCE | and he left when I gave him the link to Anon IRC | Apr 14 21:08 |
| _Goblin | you see the technique in COLA with female handles which troll for Microsoft advocacy | Apr 14 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is whistlewright from parlementum.net with 111 dents! | Apr 14 21:08 | |
| _Goblin | what they want is to be able to say "Linux users are sexist" | Apr 14 21:08 |
| XFaCE | NT Generation | Apr 14 21:08 |
| XFaCE | Classy | Apr 14 21:08 |
| _Goblin | I think our friend knew we were not playing his game.....Microsoft advocates are persistant but they give up angles very quickly. | Apr 14 21:09 |
| XFaCE | You think it was an MS troll? | Apr 14 21:09 |
| _Goblin | how many times do people even talk about anon in here? A couple of kids and a script to DDOS are hardly talking points. | Apr 14 21:10 |
| _Goblin | it wouldn't surprise me....far to convenient that on the whole of the web, this person thinks this channel has anything to do with anon..... | Apr 14 21:10 |
| _Goblin | more likely the resident Microsoft advocates who stalk and quote these logs | Apr 14 21:11 |
| XFaCE | Glad I didn't criticize Apple in the process, or Michael's bat signal would have gone up and he would have join in the fun | Apr 14 21:12 |
| _Goblin | I don't think he would come here. | Apr 14 21:13 |
| MinceR | if he does, he'll get kickbanned again :> | Apr 14 21:13 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: not anymore at least | Apr 14 21:13 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I think you theory has merit | Apr 14 21:13 |
| XFaCE | He was using MIRC | Apr 14 21:13 |
| _Goblin | however to be fair I don't have many issues with Apple, since its great watching the consumer spending large amounts of money away from Microsoft....must make their advocates green... | Apr 14 21:13 |
| MinceR | i do have issued with them, mainly their patent trolling | Apr 14 21:14 |
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| _Goblin | that people would splash out on an overpriced Apple piece of tech rather than buy a cheaper (and what they have used for years) Microsoft tech | Apr 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | "tech" | Apr 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | brand | Apr 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | it's made by other companies | Apr 14 21:14 |
| MinceR | so's crApple | Apr 14 21:14 |
| XFaCE | his ip was 109.255.216.172 if it's useful | Apr 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | US brands put on top of them at the end | Apr 14 21:14 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, but it doesn't come close to MS.... | Apr 14 21:14 |
| MinceR | and they both shit on it | Apr 14 21:14 |
| schestowitz | that's an insult to faeces | Apr 14 21:15 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: i don't really care | Apr 14 21:15 |
| schestowitz | shit can at leadt be recycled and it's widespread, unlike KIN | Apr 14 21:16 |
| XFaCE | bbl | Apr 14 21:16 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, well me neither but the one "good" Apple did is to help consumer awareness of choice and diversity in tech...Linux has never had the advertising budget to hit at a Microsoft customer. | Apr 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | KIN7 | Apr 14 21:16 |
| MinceR | "I would spit on you, but my spit would just get dirty." | Apr 14 21:16 |
| schestowitz | Linux is not a product or company | Apr 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | it's a shared project | Apr 14 21:17 |
| _Goblin | even though there are issues with Apple, it has the mainstream thinking about and being aware of alternatives.... | Apr 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat does marketing, so does IBM | Apr 14 21:17 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: i wouldn't call that "choice" or "diversity" | Apr 14 21:17 |
| _Goblin | yes I know Roy, I meant in terms of any one company pushing it. | Apr 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | IBM may call it "nterptrise mainframe" | Apr 14 21:17 |
| schestowitz | Amazon calls it "Swindle Fire" | Apr 14 21:17 |
| _Goblin | Ok Mincer..... take apple away for a second........lets imagine right this moment, Apple does not exist. | Apr 14 21:17 |
| MinceR | nice, one less threat to free software | Apr 14 21:18 |
| _Goblin | do you think we'd see a mass migration from Windows to Linux desktop? | Apr 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "oh yeah? How do you think MY SALIVA feels about it?" | Apr 14 21:18 |
| MinceR | unsure | Apr 14 21:18 |
| _Goblin | or would the consumer mindest be even further set in its ways to think the only way is Microsoft. | Apr 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | there's no Linux desktop | Apr 14 21:18 |
| schestowitz | there are some desktops OSes that use Linux, some are used more | Apr 14 21:19 |
| MinceR | there are GNU/Linux desktops, though | Apr 14 21:19 |
| _Goblin | sure its not great people buy into apple...but the concept of choice outside of Microsoft is good. | Apr 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | ChromeOS.. | Apr 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | doesn\t have GNU | Apr 14 21:19 |
| _Goblin | and I expect its the same time of enlightenment that saw Firefox act as a catalist to get people away from IE | Apr 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | has its own proprietary crap | Apr 14 21:19 |
| MinceR | afaik it does, actually | Apr 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | and 'secure' boot | Apr 14 21:19 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: i don't consider firefox evil | Apr 14 21:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe so.. | Apr 14 21:19 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, not at all......I highlight the concept of introducing choice and diversity to the consumer mindset... | Apr 14 21:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Darth is babysitting" - Oh so cool. http://ur1.ca/9069y h... http://b1t.it/bjyz | Apr 14 21:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Darth is babysitting | Flickr - Photo Sharing! .::. Size~: 163.64 KB | Apr 14 21:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - "Darth is babysitting" - Oh so cool.… .::. Size~: 159.57 KB | Apr 14 21:20 |
| schestowitz | firefox has growing pains | Apr 14 21:20 |
| MinceR | _Goblin: if they rely on crApple for that, they're already doomed anyway | Apr 14 21:20 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, firefox is obviously not in the same boat as apple, but the idea of choice being put into the consumers mind is what I meant | Apr 14 21:20 |
| schestowitz | choice=smokign or non-smoking | Apr 14 21:21 |
| schestowitz | windows or aisle | Apr 14 21:21 |
| schestowitz | -carlin | Apr 14 21:21 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, well you can say that, I'd probably agree, but what are we to do? Wait for Canonical to conjure up an advertising budget the size of APple? | Apr 14 21:21 |
| MinceR | dunno | Apr 14 21:21 |
| MinceR | but i wouldn't count on crApple to help, either | Apr 14 21:22 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: Ubuntu can do with religions do | Apr 14 21:22 |
| _Goblin | how else is the mainstream consumer (in significant numbers) ever going to switch when the people who advocate Linux cannot compete on the scale of Apple PR. | Apr 14 21:22 |
| schestowitz | impose on Ubuntu users to make 10 kids each, indoscrinate them to use Ubuntu | Apr 14 21:22 |
| MinceR | you seem to be arguing against your point now :> | Apr 14 21:22 |
| schestowitz | and if a windows partition is found-.apostasy->stoning | Apr 14 21:23 |
| schestowitz | Apple is like a religoon | Apr 14 21:23 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, no...apple won't help.... not really since its the concept of choice I am suggesting.......just like with browsers, once you set people off on discovery of alternatives then thats how it starts. | Apr 14 21:23 |
| _Goblin | lets be realistic, Linux cannot compete ever (with Canonical or anyone else) on the marketing scale of Apple or Microsoft | Apr 14 21:23 |
| MinceR | i think word-of-mouth is more effective at revealing choice to people than crApple marketing | Apr 14 21:24 |
| schestowitz | it can still win market share | Apr 14 21:24 |
| schestowitz | look at apache | Apr 14 21:24 |
| _Goblin | it is...completely....far more reliable... | Apr 14 21:24 |
| MinceR | it will be able, once crApple and m$ fall | Apr 14 21:24 |
| MinceR | and they're getting there | Apr 14 21:24 |
| schestowitz | firefox.. | Apr 14 21:24 |
| MinceR | crApple lost their dictator | Apr 14 21:24 |
| _Goblin | however, logistically its never going to hit as large an audience as short term, big promises PR on the media | Apr 14 21:24 |
| schestowitz | he lost humself | Apr 14 21:24 |
| MinceR | m$ lost their ability to produce products that don't scare even devoted users away | Apr 14 21:24 |
| schestowitz | eating berries and stuff | Apr 14 21:24 |
| _Goblin | adding to that "word of mouth" is often paid for by the big firms as we have seen in the past | Apr 14 21:25 |
| MinceR | not that of my mouth | Apr 14 21:25 |
| _Goblin | no...but I think we've covered people in the past who were happy to spread the good word of Microsoft for a price. | Apr 14 21:25 |
| _Goblin | laptops spring to mind. | Apr 14 21:25 |
| schestowitz | ANdre and Indrea | Apr 14 21:26 |
| _Goblin | or a phoney status like.....MVP | Apr 14 21:26 |
| _Goblin | Da Co$ta | Apr 14 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Most Valuable Playa | Apr 14 21:26 |
| _Goblin | Most valuable Prostitute.....will sell themselves if the price is right | Apr 14 21:26 |
| MinceR | when talking about making people realize that there's a choice, m$'s attempts to spread their word are irrelevant | Apr 14 21:26 |
| schestowitz | VIP=VIsta Pro | Apr 14 21:26 |
| MinceR | users already know m$'s products | Apr 14 21:27 |
| _Goblin | and for Microsoft thats part of the problem... | Apr 14 21:27 |
| MinceR | (though they might not be conscious of it) | Apr 14 21:27 |
| _Goblin | people see Apple , all shiney, fashionable and not microsoft and they put their hands in their pockets....likewise a user introduced to Linux wants to switch when shown by another Linux user.... | Apr 14 21:28 |
| _Goblin | the difficulty is, a shiney apple image can be portrayed to the mainstream users far quicker than a good word and demonstration from a Linux advocate. | Apr 14 21:28 |
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| _Goblin | You have to remember these "mainstream consumers" often buy things on the strength of a 30 second add that "looks cool" | Apr 14 21:29 |
| _Goblin | *ad | Apr 14 21:29 |
| schestowitz | or a friend | Apr 14 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | who does a demo | Apr 14 21:30 |
| schestowitz | hi MinceR | Apr 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | mach1723: | Apr 14 21:31 |
| _Goblin | schestowitz, mmmm yes but if we are talking things like the iphone, one of the draws would be everyone has one... | Apr 14 21:31 |
| *MinceR waves to schestowitz | Apr 14 21:31 | |
| _Goblin | and also the repeated pr/ads on tv... | Apr 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: o hai | Apr 14 21:31 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: I read that as Pravda TV | Apr 14 21:32 |
| _Goblin | :) | Apr 14 21:32 |
| _Goblin | that new ipad is great at dinner parties btw.....you can surf the net with your guests whilst you have your starters, then turn it over and use it as a hotplate for your mains.....now thats value for money! | Apr 14 21:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 14 21:34 |
| schestowitz | The hypePhone is great | Apr 14 21:35 |
| schestowitz | You can tell your friends you go to dinner | Apr 14 21:35 |
| schestowitz | you know, with real people | Apr 14 21:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Two £100,000-plus #BBC staff avoid income tax http://gu.com/p/36qvp | Apr 14 21:35 | |
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| schestowitz | and then be with the hypePhone | Apr 14 21:35 |
| schestowitz | and not be with real people in absentia | Apr 14 21:35 |
| schestowitz | and then you can think you're all cool, cause you have no social life while you pretend you do. Then, you might realise you forgot what real life is... :-) | Apr 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | People in thr train forgot what a windows is | Apr 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | They stare at other pieces of glass | Apr 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | eventually we'll have those Google glasses | Apr 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | and then it'll be like lots of Spock all over the place | Apr 14 21:36 |
| schestowitz | because, hey, who needs realise anyway? :-) :-) | Apr 14 21:37 |
| schestowitz | This is where it's heading | Apr 14 21:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when the #BBC use "commercial disadvantage" to avoid transparency, it's an admission that it's a commercial operation, not public service | Apr 14 21:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] standards are supposed to be independent, accepted or rejected on technical merit, this was seriously lacking in the case of #ooxml | Apr 14 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yet time & again, committees stuffed with Microsoft proxies over ruled the technical stuff, took on faith that vague promises would be met | Apr 14 21:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when a voting committee has 27 people, & 20 have Microsoft connections, then only turn up for the vote, that type of thing was common | Apr 14 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] all the issues raised at technical level were brushed off, ignored, promised to be fixed "later, just stamp the fucking seal" | Apr 14 21:43 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/webmink/status/180728909590048768 | Apr 14 21:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @webmink: @jrharris1 Thanks. There are plausible arguments for patents in some industries, but I've never heard any for software patents... | Apr 14 21:52 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/180997409780940800 | Apr 14 21:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: @jrharris1 @webmink Software is so special that you could violate a patent just by writing code. I hope you know how to write code, do you? | Apr 14 21:52 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/182443370801672192 | Apr 14 21:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: The Supreme Court is a bunch of numbskulls who don't understand patent law? http://t.co/fZsgRwy5 | Apr 14 21:53 |
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| schestowitz | numbskulls in fancy gowns | Apr 14 21:53 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/182444494430543872 | Apr 14 21:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Patently-o cited by SCOTUS judges http://t.co/fZsgRwy5 | Apr 14 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | citing pro-patents blog of lawyers | Apr 14 21:54 |
| schestowitz | how fittingh | Apr 14 21:54 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/182842031331221504 | Apr 14 21:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Document Freedom Day is pretty useless, considering that FRAND will become EU law. | Apr 14 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Vêm aí as coimas para carros poluentes - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/CYdkF #pt #greenterrorism - afinal para que servem as inspecções? | Apr 14 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/182842598317244416 http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/182845832234668032 | Apr 14 21:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Vêm aí as coimas para carros poluentes - Expresso.pt .::. Size~: 116.7 KB | Apr 14 21:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: @Andrew_Duff_MEP PDF and DOC makes your website instranparent. If you want to reach the masses, convert them to HTML webpages... | Apr 14 21:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: @Andrew_Duff_MEP Also electronic voting in committee should be mandatory, I have seen weird ways of counting votes with broken chairmens | Apr 14 21:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kevie: Like a phoenix rising from the ashes !TuxJam episode 12 hits the audio shelves after a 6 week wait http://ur1.ca/906i1 !ccmusic | Apr 14 21:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Which branch of !Gwibber is !Fedora using now I wonder? Old Python or new Vala stylee? | Apr 14 22:01 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/zoobab/statuses/185270435263414272 | Apr 14 22:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zoobab: Any time a tech writer references Florian Mueller, I stop reading. He is and always has been a shill for Redmond http://t.co/gbttxRFb | Apr 14 22:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] are the #Tuxjam and #Crivins feeds working in folks podcatchers? #Newsbeuter seems to be having issues with both | Apr 14 22:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] all the paths are right, they download fine from the site | Apr 14 22:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Das ist ja Mr. Bean in "Sag niemals nie"! Ist mir noch nie aufgefallen. | Apr 14 22:30 | |
| Omega | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=qualcomm_freedreno&num=1 | Apr 14 22:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Seems that #testicles are all the coolness today? And what about pingpong #balls ? | Apr 14 22:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What he sez. Ping pong #balls http://ur1.ca/906ww | Apr 14 22:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @psquid @lnxwalt280 @speeddefrost: Windows has detected that you're not using Windows. Format disk? http://b1t.it/bjzW | Apr 14 22:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm suddenly tired. It's like that with me. I'm fine and then 10 mins later I feel tired. Maybe it's narcolepsy :) http://b1t.it/bjz0 | Apr 14 23:01 | |
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| _Goblin | God I hate Banshee..... | Apr 14 23:04 |
| schestowitz | why did you have it on the system? | Apr 14 23:06 |
| _Goblin | default with 11.10 | Apr 14 23:06 |
| schestowitz | they didn't get rid of it? | Apr 14 23:06 |
| _Goblin | just noticed as I was playing around... | Apr 14 23:06 |
| _Goblin | I thought they had | Apr 14 23:06 |
| schestowitz | hmmm.... odd. | Apr 14 23:07 |
| _Goblin | its still godawful | Apr 14 23:07 |
| _Goblin | the whole distro is zippy, to be fair, until you open a piece of media.... | Apr 14 23:07 |
| _Goblin | then the banshee slug lags...noticably. | Apr 14 23:07 |
| schestowitz | like FF? | Apr 14 23:08 |
| _Goblin | its coming off now | Apr 14 23:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wow! World Bank Embraces Open Access and Makes All of Its Research Freely Available bit.ly/IQNTOZ | Apr 14 23:08 | |
| _Goblin | Ive surprisingly made little additions to the default package....one thing you have to give Canonical credit for is integration, it all flows very nicely. | Apr 14 23:08 |
| _Goblin | and I do like the software center. | Apr 14 23:09 |
| _Goblin | very easy to use, especially when the wife is looking around for some app | Apr 14 23:10 |
| _Goblin | one question I do have.......when I minimize Chromium......where does it go? | Apr 14 23:11 |
| MinceR | it goes into that big core dump in the sky! | Apr 14 23:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 14 23:12 |
| _Goblin | probably.... | Apr 14 23:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] This is the legacy of Osama Bin Laden, just as much as he is the legacy of American foreign policy http://ping.fm/6fD7s | Apr 14 23:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @bruce89 Dear "comedians", please stop saying Scots "don't eat vegetables" or "drink a lot"; it's a lazy stereotype that is not funny | Apr 14 23:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] at the risk of tempting fate, my #Crunchbang netbook has chosen not to mysteriously power itself on since I outed it on #Identica | Apr 14 23:18 | |
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| schestowitz | interesting article | Apr 14 23:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Ubuntu Women: Career Days! April 18th! http://ping.fm/MBDJa | Apr 14 23:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Career Days! April 18th! | Ubuntu Women Blog .::. Size~: 9.97 KB | Apr 14 23:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Surely this will impact the Oracle v !Google case? » Court Rules Software Not Protected By Fed Crime Laws http://ping.fm/kBC6q | Apr 14 23:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jezra k, I can't see anything I'm doing wrong, & they work for most folks, so for now I'll class it as a glitch | Apr 14 23:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] thanks to all for the feedback on the #TuxJam & #Crivins RSS feed | Apr 14 23:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Court Rules Software Not Protected By Fed Crime Laws, Overturns Conviction of Goldman Engineer | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 57.17 KB | Apr 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1519450 | Apr 14 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #mozilla demotes #adobe Trash player http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/232900294 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/126083-flash-and-java-to-be-click-to-play-in-future-firefox good move, no plugins needed | Apr 14 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Firefox To Require Permission For Plug-Ins - Security - Vulnerabilities and threats - Informationweek .::. Size~: 108.94 KB | Apr 14 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Flash and Java to be click-to-play in future Firefox | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 45.37 KB | Apr 14 23:35 |
| schestowitz | "Hopefully this will be the push Google needs to finally complete the switch to html5 video " | Apr 14 23:35 |
| schestowitz | "What distro is good for you depends on your use pattern and priorities. I use Debian because I value freedom, privacy and flexibility more than cutting edge features and compatibility with non free hardware." | Apr 14 23:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1490447 | Apr 14 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Antitrust and Microsoft SUSE http://techrights.org/2012/04/04/microsoft-sponsorship-and-kde/ #suse #microsoft #opensuse | Apr 14 23:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Microsoft Antitrust and Microsoft SUSE | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.08 KB | Apr 14 23:35 |
| schestowitz | _Goblin: All the houses I see so far (spent an hour tonight) are not good if going for a decent budget | Apr 14 23:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek you can create a shortcut in the K menu or desktop, with this command: qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin toggleCompositing | Apr 14 23:36 | |
| schestowitz | The ones that go for a comparable price to Manchester City Centre condos are like Victorian | Apr 14 23:36 |
| schestowitz | council tax too is accordingly higher | Apr 14 23:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1519505 | Apr 14 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A Massive Nouveau Code Push Happened Today http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4NzI #Nouveau #Linux | Apr 14 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: [Phoronix] A Massive Nouveau Code Push Happened Today .::. Size~: 19.69 KB | Apr 14 23:39 |
| schestowitz | "Aside from some very mild tearing in video playback and a few less fps in graphics-heavy games, Nouveau has been working better than the Nvidia driver in every way since I installed it a couple months ago- Even more improvements on their way is great news! " | Apr 14 23:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I like old James Bond movies. When men had #balls :-) | Apr 14 23:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #needsleep kicks in. CU tmrw. | Apr 14 23:50 | |
| _Goblin | schestowitz, look about 20 miles out of central london..... 3 bed house approx 180k | Apr 14 23:54 |
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