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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Jennifer Robinson ( @suigenerisjen ) met with Assange on Monday. Assange show broadcast Tuesday. Australian watchlist incident Wednesday.Apr 19 00:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Can you imagine what a spanking the ALP is going to get when its actions over the the last 16 months come out? #auspolApr 19 00:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] http://www.defectivebydesign.org/dayagainstdrmApr 19 00:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: International Day Against DRM — May 4, 2012 | Defective by Design .::. Size~: 25.91 KBApr 19 00:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Uncovering Ten Years of Deception into #911 with Activist Dan Dicks. - YouTube http://goo.gl/vJNqVApr 19 00:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Uncovering Ten Years of Deception into 9 11 with Activist Dan Dicks.       - YouTube .::. Size~: 103.1 KBApr 19 00:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cinco mil artistas pedem para ser promovidos pelo Pirate Bay - Exame Informática http://goo.gl/vL1f3Apr 19 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cinco mil artistas pedem para ser promovidos pelo Pirate Bay - Exame Informática .::. Size~: 99.5 KBApr 19 00:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Current Windows Phone devices not upgradeable to Apollo? http://goo.gl/ooIGK #wphone is really a joke! #msnokia you're doomed!Apr 19 00:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Current Windows Phone devices not upgradeable to Apollo? .::. Size~: 29.35 KBApr 19 00:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Forget lifetime + 70 yrs... China wants to give creators copyright protection for – wait for it – 3 months. - Max Keiser http://goo.gl/KVzN5Apr 19 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Greek town dumps Euro, barters instead with new currency and system - Max Keiser http://goo.gl/SvfjU #greece #preppers #collapseApr 19 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Forget lifetime + 70 yrs (the current copyright scheme in the U.S.). China wants to give creators copyright protection for – wait for it – 3 months. - Max Keiser .::. Size~: 54.23 KBApr 19 01:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Greek town dumps Euro, barters instead with new currency and system - Max Keiser .::. Size~: 50.05 KBApr 19 01:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Microsoft has anonymously posted similar bogus warnings against websites that speak the truth about Microsoft, or push http://ur1.ca/918nbApr 19 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ "Microsoft has anonymously posted similar bogus warnings against websites that speak the truth about Microsoft, or push http://ur1. ...Apr 19 01:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft’s War on Freedom (Article by Formic) | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.1 KBApr 19 01:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mike PIONEER ONE on the Webby Awards ballot http://ur1.ca/91b00Apr 19 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tryggvib I think the Creative Commons event site: http://is.gd/5GjuCs should change the map from google maps to #OpenStreetMap (sinc ...Apr 19 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @stopwarsyd: “Julian has got truth on his side which is more than u can say for Nicola Roxon”, @AssangeC http://t.co/1s1cnW2e #RoxonO ...Apr 19 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Melbourne April 19 8.30pm Federation Square BMW Edge: Big event: Defend WikiLeaks, Assange & Democracy http://t.co/HYcqRXmE #auspolApr 19 02:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Webby People's Voice Awards .::. Size~: 55.88 KBApr 19 02:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Events - CC Wiki .::. Size~: 33.17 KBApr 19 02:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CHRISTINE ASSANGE Interview 18th April 2012 | ABC Radio Australia .::. Size~: 46.31 KBApr 19 02:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Preview: WikiLeaks, Assange and Defending Democracy - Local News - News - Entertainment - The City Weekly .::. Size~: 64.11 KBApr 19 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @howardknopf #CBC Radio trims live concert recording by 2/3rds [Why not cut Strombo and Terfry for starters?] !CDNpoli http://ur1.ca/91b3oApr 19 02:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CBC Radio trims live concert recording by two-thirds .::. Size~: 197.09 KBApr 19 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @ioerror: The CIA wants to kill people for their metadata without even knowing who they are or what they have really done: http://t.c ...Apr 19 02:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Utilizadores deviam exigir ao Google e ao Facebook os seus dados - Expresso.pt http://goo.gl/WjgAE #privacyApr 19 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australia: Swedish ambassador lies to public in SMH: http://t.co/hNIYtbNg attacks by Swed PM&FM http://t.co/hwko4zdX http://t.co/z07wbLRYApr 19 02:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] El Mundo del Mañana con Julian Assange – Episodio 1: Assange con el líder de Hezbolá https://t.co/YzEOBG0jApr 19 02:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Political troop withdrawal a gift to the Taliban .::. Size~: 121.16 KBApr 19 02:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Political Interference - Justice for Assange .::. Size~: 47.79 KBApr 19 02:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: El Mundo del Mañana con Julian Assange – Episodio 1: Assange con el líder de Hezbolá « Muy Confidencial .::. Size~: 45.97 KBApr 19 02:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Australian WikiLeaks lawyer on ‘inhibited person’ travel list? | Crikey http://t.co/5Fu3xDfJApr 19 03:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WikiLeaks lawyer Jen Robinson's travel stopped in London | Crikey .::. Size~: 44.54 KBApr 19 03:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Evan Prodromou is not attending Mijail Tumanov piano concert.Apr 19 03:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @xopher http://misbehav.in/ Best $3 I ever spent (new and improved !).Apr 19 03:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ain't Misbehavin' .::. Size~: 0.72 KBApr 19 03:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I need to re-read this; it's important, and I'm instinctually disappointed with it.Apr 19 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] In San Francisco? Join EFF Staff Technologist Dan Auerbach for a town hall meeting on #CISPA 4/19 at 7 PM: https://eff.org/r.Y7kApr 19 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I donated!Apr 19 03:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Evelinesmet WANTApr 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rhythmvs @jefmaesboekbe @Choisissez Als @jefmaesboekbe of boek.be daar interesse in toont willen we dit zeker over ...Apr 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Late-night work for @iRail. Because it's worth it. #opendataApr 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rhythmvs @jefmaesboekbe Of dat ene stuk van Samuel BeckettApr 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MadProf Great! Planning on doing RISE as well? What are you coding this in?Apr 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rhythmvs @jefmaesboekbe Kan wel een leuk iets zijn om te excuseren voor vertragingen. Vandaag 3 uur op http://ur1. ...Apr 19 03:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for April 19, 2012 http://ur1.ca/91buaApr 19 03:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Subscription required [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 4.78 KBApr 19 03:56
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XFaCEDiablo-D3: It's YOUUUUU!!!!!!!Apr 19 04:08
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Brightens up my day (or night to be more accurate)Apr 19 04:09
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XFaCEmsb__ , are feeling much better? Has your ailment diaspeared?Apr 19 04:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Austerity is Europe's mutual suicide-pact http://identi.ca/url/69025997Apr 19 04:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Nature's Billion-Year-Old Battery Key to Storing Energy http://identi.ca/url/69026015 !scienceApr 19 04:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Austerity is Europe's mutual suicide-pact - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 35.06 KBApr 19 04:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nature's billion-year-old battery key to storing energy .::. Size~: 57.11 KBApr 19 04:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gulf seafood "horribly deformed" http://identi.ca/url/69026235Apr 19 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] German startup develops tinted windows that generate electricity http://identi.ca/url/69026622 !scienceApr 19 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Most Cybercrime 'Losses' Are Massively Exaggerated http://identi.ca/url/69026648Apr 19 05:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gulf seafood deformities alarm scientists - Features - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 149.49 KBApr 19 05:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: German startup develops tinted windows that generate electricity | ExtremeTech .::. Size~: 40.86 KBApr 19 05:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Guess What? Most Cybercrime 'Losses' Are Massively Exaggerated As Well | Techdirt .::. Size~: 66.07 KBApr 19 05:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Vatican’s Mob Murder Mystery http://identi.ca/url/69026666Apr 19 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Long predicted but never observed: A new kind of quantum junction http://identi.ca/url/69026680 !scienceApr 19 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Where Do the Highest-Energy Cosmic Rays Come From? http://identi.ca/url/69026702 !scienceApr 19 05:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Vatican’s Mob Murder Mystery - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 324.6 KBApr 19 05:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Long predicted but never observed: A new kind of quantum junction .::. Size~: 62.32 KBApr 19 05:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Where do the highest-energy cosmic rays come from? Probably not from gamma-ray bursts .::. Size~: 67.13 KBApr 19 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Research team appears to solve the Pioneer anomaly http://identi.ca/url/69026743 !scienceApr 19 05:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Research team appears to solve the Pioneer anomaly .::. Size~: 65.46 KBApr 19 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Citigroup shareholders reject the executives' compensation packages http://identi.ca/url/69026761Apr 19 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mysterious lack of dark matter in Sun's neighborhood http://identi.ca/url/69026785 !scienceApr 19 05:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Market Day - Citigroup shareholders snub execs on pay .::. Size~: 41.05 KBApr 19 05:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Serious blow to dark matter theories? New study finds mysterious lack of dark matter in Sun's neighborhood .::. Size~: 101.94 KBApr 19 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Grrr morning good people!Apr 19 05:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Idiots Think That If They Use Social Media They Can Counteract Public Concerns http://identi.ca/url/69026812Apr 19 05:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cargo Cult Reverse Activism: Maximalists Think That If They Use Social Media They Can Counteract Public Concerns | Techdirt .::. Size~: 95.85 KBApr 19 05:21
msb__XFaCE: Hello!Apr 19 05:22
XFaCEmsb__ , are feeling much better? Has your ailment diaspeared?Apr 19 05:22
msb__XFaCE: Hi, it is a lot better -- thanks for asking!Apr 19 05:23
msb__Had to adjust diuretic -- was causing gout.Apr 19 05:23
msb__How are you?Apr 19 05:23
msb__XFaCE: Do you only see me if I use your nick?Apr 19 05:25
XFaCEI'm fineApr 19 05:27
XFaCEmsb__: of course not, no need to add seven character for nothing :)Apr 19 05:28
XFaCEI'm just flipping between channelsApr 19 05:28
msb__One good thing, I bought a water distiller -- gets rid of the fluoride!Apr 19 05:29
msb__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrXrE8AmIcApr 19 05:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 141.72 KBApr 19 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Mystery company backed by James Cameron and Google executives may be an asteroid mining project http://identi.ca/url/69026876Apr 19 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Recovered my Jabber password. Yay!Apr 19 05:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mystery company backed by James Cameron and Google executives may be an asteroid mining project | The Verge .::. Size~: 84.04 KBApr 19 05:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] Oracle v. Google trial: evidence of willful infringement outweighs claims of approved use http://bit.ly/HRijkiApr 19 05:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: Oracle v. Google trial: evidence of willful infringement outweighs claims of approved use .::. Size~: 86.27 KBApr 19 05:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Cool infographic of what happens in an Internet minute via friendica http://ur1.ca/91cmeApr 19 05:46
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schestowitzformic_: http://twitter.com/agente_smithe/statuses/192729348040699904Apr 19 06:07
TechrightsBot-tr@agente_smithe: A great article in Dr. Roy's site: http://t.co/ABFjfu5w Everyone should be aware of this.Apr 19 06:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Microsoft’s War on Freedom (Article by Formic) | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.35 KBApr 19 06:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just signed up for SoundCloudApr 19 06:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Checking out the OpenStreetMap map of Silicon Valley and the Bay Area.Apr 19 06:16
XFaCEmsb__: No need here. We don't have flouride in our water supplyApr 19 06:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Blue October - The Answer @shkobaibz @tcsmola @perpetuahsugarApr 19 06:19
msb__XFaCE: Then hope you don't get invaded by a country that does.  See the video.Apr 19 06:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] You can now donate to #Wikipedia in KES. Cool!Apr 19 06:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The wonderful world of the internets. That's all. Drunk Makeup Tutorial h/t to +Ben GoodridgeApr 19 06:44
MinceRhttp://www.seattlerex.com/seattle-rex-vs-apple-the-verdict-is-in/Apr 19 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seattle Rex vs. Apple: The Verdict Is In | Seattle Rex .::. Size~: 137.47 KBApr 19 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsmag/@fsmag] http://fsmsh.com/3745 - Our columnist Terry Hancock picked FLAC rather than Vorbis for his production's audio. See why, and how!Apr 19 06:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lib-Ray Video Standard: FLAC and Vorbis codecs for Sound .::. Size~: 55.44 KBApr 19 06:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] For your !listening pleasure http://ur1.ca/91cunApr 19 06:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Chills by Blue October on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free .::. Size~: 39.1 KBApr 19 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hm. So when North Korea fires a rocket, everyone is angry. When India succesfully fires an ICBM that could reach China... http://b1t.it/bkU2Apr 19 06:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Hm. So when North Korea fires a rocket, everyone is angry.… .::. Size~: 144.59 KBApr 19 06:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] #Oracle v. #Google - What's the Deal With the #Java Specification License? http://ur1.ca/91cveApr 19 06:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Oracle v. Google - What's the Deal With the Java Specification License? .::. Size~: 94.89 KBApr 19 06:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Canon 5D Mark III vs Nikon D800 - Hands-on http://j.mp/I6uC6MApr 19 07:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moshe Njema - Google+ - Canon 5D Mark III vs Nikon D800 - Hands-on .::. Size~: 107.94 KBApr 19 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mohanpram Going With the Flow: Google's Secret Switch to the Next Wave of Networking http://bit.ly/HU9DqEApr 19 07:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Going With the Flow: Google's Secret Switch to the Next Wave of Networking | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com .::. Size~: 25.36 KBApr 19 07:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1533392Apr 19 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: OIN's CEO told me that #FAT32 patents are just about the only thing Microsoft uses for #linux extortion. Patent seems not credible.Apr 19 07:45
schestowitz"Android extortion included ? "Apr 19 07:45
schestowitzsebsebseb: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1533240Apr 19 07:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source: Mageia 2 (Cauldron) Looking Good http://blog.eracc.com/2012/04/17/open-source-mageia-2-cauldron-looking-good/   #mageia #gnu #linuxApr 19 07:46
schestowitz"In my case: ***working*** very very good :D "Apr 19 07:46
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Open Source: Mageia 2 (Cauldron) Looking Good « The ERACC Web Log .::. Size~: 104.83 KBApr 19 07:46
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/sgjzp/ubuntu_back_track_linux_appear_on_indian_tv/Apr 19 07:49
schestowitz"Apr 19 07:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu, Back Track Linux Appear On Indian TV Serial CID : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 42.11 KBApr 19 07:49
schestowitzWhen he booted the system something magical happened it booted into Windows 7.Apr 19 07:49
schestowitzI'm not surprised. CID can have worse hocus-pocus than CSI Miami at its worst some times.Apr 19 07:49
schestowitz"Apr 19 07:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1486940Apr 19 07:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu's HUD: Light-years beyond any menu system http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntus-hud-light-years-beyond-any-menu-system/3535 #ubuntu #gnu #linux #hudApr 19 07:51
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Ubuntu's HUD: Light-years beyond any menu system | TechRepublic .::. Size~: 158.4 KBApr 19 07:51
schestowitzLol. Apparently I forgot, because I commented on that blog post, myself. The thing that seems strange to me though, is that it seems that for menu items that you know already, that the usual two mouse clicks would be much faster than clicking to bring up the hud, typing some phrase and then clicking something else... I do get the value, when looking for something for the first time though. ""Apr 19 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] An Intro to Video Editing with Kdenlive Part 1: Installing Kdenlive and Walkthrough : http://ur1.ca/91d2y via @youtube @dennismungaiApr 19 07:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Intro to Video Editing with Kdenlive Part 1: Installing Kdenlive and Walkthrough       - YouTube .::. Size~: 153.1 KBApr 19 07:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Larry Ellison knocks Oracle's Linux strategy http://ur1.ca/91d3c #gnu #linux #oracle #redhat #trialApr 19 08:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Source Report: Larry Ellison knocks Oracle's Linux strategy .::. Size~: 78 KBApr 19 08:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Proprietary lobby triumphs in first open standards showdown http://ur1.ca/90lhb #uk #foss #gnu #linux #swpatsApr 19 08:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Anonymous Hack Ennahda’s Emails in Response to Online Censorship http://ur1.ca/91d3y #tunisia #censorship #internet #anonymousApr 19 08:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Proprietary lobby triumphs in first open standards showdown - Public Sector IT .::. Size~: 60.43 KBApr 19 08:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anonymous Hack Ennahda’s Emails in Response to Online Censorship | Government In The Lab .::. Size~: 45.55 KBApr 19 08:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Don't let software patents stop us standing on the shoulders of giants http://ur1.ca/91d4e #swpats #gnu #linux #ukApr 19 08:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Don't let software patents stop us standing on the shoulders of giants | Jonathan Zittrain | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 250.6 KBApr 19 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Lib-Ray Video Standard: FLAC and Vorbis codecs for Sound http://ur1.ca/91d4v #music #movie #flac #ogg #gnu #linuxApr 19 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Czech municipality uses open source for nearly everything http://ur1.ca/9140d #czech #gnu #linux #fossApr 19 08:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lib-Ray Video Standard: FLAC and Vorbis codecs for Sound .::. Size~: 55.45 KBApr 19 08:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Czech municipality uses open source for nearly everything | Joinup .::. Size~: 26.71 KBApr 19 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] well, the "easier to sell CC to wider audiences with the NC clause." is probably trueApr 19 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Today is the second day of the Stockholm Internet Forum. Follow @EFFlive for live updates. #sif12Apr 19 08:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks How LibreOffice Writer Tops MS Word: 12 Features It amazes me that anyone would consider using Wor http://ur1.ca/91d6cApr 19 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks How LibreOffice Writer Tops MS Word: 12 Features It amazes me that anyone would consider using Wor http://ur1. ...Apr 19 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links – CISPA threatens US Citizens.  Death to Word | Techrights .::. Size~: 97.35 KBApr 19 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Huawei Ascend P1 international release dates announced http://ur1.ca/91d9a /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @evansonwachira @flintsoul @RamanusAsangoApr 19 08:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Huawei Ascend P1 international release dates announced  | The Verge .::. Size~: 83.94 KBApr 19 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] #Huawei Ascend P1 international release dates announced http://ur1.ca/91d9a /cc @dammim @thaDopeMaestro @fredmanglis !androidApr 19 08:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Huawei Ascend P1 international release dates announced  | The Verge .::. Size~: 83.84 KBApr 19 08:38
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ch_s/status/192882974893674496?iid=am-212939495113348218596471708&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Apr 19 08:59
TechrightsBot-tr@ch_s: @schestowitz : that's what I heard as well. I wonder if that would change with Netscape patents?Apr 19 08:59
schestowitznetscape gave code to open sourceApr 19 08:59
schestowitzand we're supposed to think their patents were "defensive"Apr 19 08:59
schestowitzending up in Steve Ballmer's holsterApr 19 08:59
schestowitzsame with Novell's patentsApr 19 09:00
schestowitzand Sun's (now used to Oracle against Android)Apr 19 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Tinted Windows that generate electricity http://ur1.ca/91dc2 /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungaiApr 19 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] High performance open-source 24bit USB DAC released http://identi.ca/url/69030729 !linux !fsfApr 19 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @JacobInnopay: Watching vid message from @NeelieKroesEU at #EPCA summit: advocates creation of EU wide m http://p.ost.im/p/ebXpm6Apr 19 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @couve: #www2012 Webcast with @NeelieKroesEU @TimBerners_Lee & @babgi to follow on http://t.co/fraIvB9L http://p.ost.im/p/ebpyKAApr 19 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tinted Windows that Generate Electricity - Technology Review .::. Size~: 60.75 KBApr 19 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NwAvGuy: ODAC Released .::. Size~: 255.02 KBApr 19 09:18
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Plenary panel | www2012 .::. Size~: 34.68 KBApr 19 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Time for my Jamendo playlists! !listeningApr 19 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Brad Sucks - Making Me Nervous #jamendoApr 19 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA vote in JURI April 26 - http://bit.ly/I4sdh8 update on what's happening whenApr 19 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA vote in JURI April 26 « Christian Engström, Pirate MEP .::. Size~: 52.14 KBApr 19 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Richard #ODwyer: Lib Dems fight to halt #extradition to US on piracy charges - http://bit.ly/IPXiRr a reminder this continuesApr 19 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Richard O'Dwyer: Lib Dems fight to halt extradition to US on piracy charges | Technology | The Guardian .::. Size~: 122.64 KBApr 19 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Provocative proposal to force scholarly publishers to respect #openaccess wishes of their unpaid contributors - http://bit.ly/I88qwE cleverApr 19 09:58
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MinceRgeekingsApr 19 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese #Copyright Proposal Would Allow Compulsory Licensing Of Music After Three Months - http://bit.ly/J8fMP6 will go down well #chinaApr 19 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chinese Copyright Proposal Would Allow Compulsory Licensing Of Music After Three Months | Techdirt .::. Size~: 137.96 KBApr 19 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Eric #Whitacre Singers Live at Union Chapel - http://bit.ly/I0KDxs an hour of wonderful music, for freeApr 19 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK #OpenStandards consultation needs you! - http://bit.ly/HP4rSB urgent: meeting for SMEs with UK gov next Tuesday. pl. go if you canApr 19 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The UK and the EU Need to Bring in the Nerds - http://bit.ly/HVtN7k oh yes #ACTA #CDDPApr 19 10:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Standards consultation needs you! | Government Digital Service .::. Size~: 44.69 KBApr 19 10:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The UK and the EU Need to Bring in the Nerds - Input Output .::. Size~: 90.47 KBApr 19 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WiFi problems still here. Why is the #SIF12 network encrypted? It would work so much better open http://rys.io/en/7 #fxinternetApr 19 10:59
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Startup Weekend Network Fun Fun Fun :: RysioBrag .::. Size~: 13.76 KBApr 19 10:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Mobilization, And Beyond - http://bit.ly/J3uT0Q important post explaining what's happening, & who needs contactingApr 19 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @AJEnglish: UN chief says Syria has broken ceasefire http://aje.me/Jh4qaz http://b1t.it/bkYUApr 19 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Mobilization, And Beyond | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 36.27 KBApr 19 11:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UN chief says Syria has broken ceasefire - Middle East - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 128.92 KBApr 19 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Recently, I've taken to having Bacon and Egg Muffins for breakfast; no doubt this is very unhealthy? Nutrition is on o... http://b1t.it/bkY2Apr 19 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Linux from Scratch series starting over at PCWorld http://twurl.nl/t1aujb #lfs http://b1t.it/bkY4Apr 19 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 19-Apr-12 10:05:46 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.14 KBApr 19 11:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tux Love : Linux from Scratch: Part I .::. Size~: 44.77 KBApr 19 11:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Spyrus is an interesting take on #Anonymity http://twurl.nl/1dcz1y I 1st hrd abt ths on the Gnu World Order podcast. ... http://b1t.it/bkY8Apr 19 11:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So #bacon is the new #bacon? > >Apr 19 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Here’s Top 10 Free and Paid #Ubuntu Apps Most Downloaded, March 2012 http://twurl.nl/70q2ak No 10 paid app is a plea... http://b1t.it/bkZzApr 19 11:29
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 19-Apr-12 10:28:20 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.36 KBApr 19 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Positive results in Southampton-led patient trial for new #asthma treatment http://twurl.nl/awnev7 http://b1t.it/bkZIApr 19 11:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Possible new Cancer treatment http://twurl.nl/e86pbo http://b1t.it/bkZJApr 19 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Positive results in Southampton-led patient trial for new asthma treatment .::. Size~: 55.85 KBApr 19 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 19-Apr-12 10:35:45 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.29 KBApr 19 11:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Possible new cancer treatment identified .::. Size~: 49.95 KBApr 19 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Cars made from vacuum cleaners compete in race » New Scientist http://twurl.nl/rltfr6 http://b1t.it/bkZKApr 19 11:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: New Scientist TV: Cars made from vacuum cleaners compete in race .::. Size~: 61.39 KBApr 19 11:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 19-Apr-12 10:37:52 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.19 KBApr 19 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I really don't want Iris recognition to go mainstream until the error rate drops from 10% http://twurl.nl/eh4q67 That'... http://b1t.it/bkZLApr 19 11:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Iris recognition report evaluates ‘needle in haystack’ search capability | KurzweilAI .::. Size~: 21.38 KBApr 19 11:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If Larry Ellison has a problem with "cheap knockoffs," maybe he ought to re-think Unbreakable !Linux http://b1t.it/bkZMApr 19 11:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I think the worst Buzzword phrase of this century is Paradigm Shift, but it just goes to show how scared we've become ... http://b1t.it/bkZSApr 19 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @silner: If Larry Ellison has a problem with "cheap knockoffs," maybe he ought to re-think Unbreakable !Linux http://b1t.it/bkZMApr 19 11:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 19-Apr-12 10:43:10 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.4 KBApr 19 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Ellison Fumbles Testimony in HighStakes !Java Case: stumbled abt certain aspects of Java, admitted interest in mobile ... http://b1t.it/bkZUApr 19 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Florian Mueller ( @fosspatents ) Admits Oracle Has Hired Him. Raise Hand If Surprised http://twurl.nl/livw2k http://b1t.it/bkZVApr 19 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Thursday, 19-Apr-12 10:51:15 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.29 KBApr 19 11:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: Oracle v. Google trial: evidence of willful infringement outweighs claims of approved use .::. Size~: 86.26 KBApr 19 11:56
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iophkhttps://secure.marketwatch.com/story/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-receives-one-of-worlds-highest-technology-honors-2012-04-19Apr 19 12:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Creator Linus Torvalds Receives One of World's Highest Technology Honors - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 78.73 KBApr 19 12:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @muktware: Help Save !Slackware http://goo.gl/fb/uU6yy #linux http://b1t.it/bkZ0Apr 19 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] A fellow left-hander moans abour loads of stuff I've never noticed http://twurl.nl/t045wy http://b1t.it/bkZ1Apr 19 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Incubator Activity, a post-mortem http://ow.ly/1iTDmEApr 19 12:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Log In - The New York Times .::. Size~: 9.29 KBApr 19 12:25
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: W3C Incubator Activity, a post-mortem - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 10.31 KBApr 19 12:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Italian 'Blog Killer' Law Rises From the Grave - http://bit.ly/HK3tIx pazzi or what? #italy #censorship #blogsApr 19 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HomeServe fined £750,000 over silent calls http://gu.com/p/37xmj before that it was mis-selling; not exactly a good company thenApr 19 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italian 'Blog Killer' Law Rises From the Grave | Techdirt .::. Size~: 36.63 KBApr 19 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HomeServe fined £750,000 over silent calls | Money | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 139.35 KBApr 19 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why Mr. Fosspatents will not report that much on Oracle v Google? Because Oracle hired him."Oracle has very recently b... http://b1t.it/bk1dApr 19 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The inconvenient truth the #Pentagon would prefer we didn't see http://gu.com/p/37xgyApr 19 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Italian 'Blog Killer' Law Rises From the Grave - http://bit.ly/HK3tIx pazzi or what? #italy #censorship #blogsApr 19 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Why Mr. Fosspatents will not report that much on Oracle v… .::. Size~: 141.96 KBApr 19 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The inconvenient truth the Pentagon would prefer we didn't see | Ross Caputi | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 253.47 KBApr 19 12:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Italian 'Blog Killer' Law Rises From the Grave | Techdirt .::. Size~: 36.58 KBApr 19 12:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #preppers #bushcraft RT @rms: Urgent: Oppose HR 4089 http://ur1.ca/91e97Apr 19 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody #ACTA Mobilization, And Beyond - http://bit.ly/J3uT0Q important post explaining what's happening, & who needs contactingApr 19 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Chinese #Copyright Proposal Would Allow Compulsory Licensing Of Music After Three Months - http://bit.ly/J8fMP6 will go do ...Apr 19 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2012: January - April Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 936.14 KBApr 19 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Mobilization, And Beyond | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 36.27 KBApr 19 12:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chinese Copyright Proposal Would Allow Compulsory Licensing Of Music After Three Months | Techdirt .::. Size~: 139.31 KBApr 19 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @rms Urgent: Call For Labeling of GMO Foods http://ur1.ca/91dsfApr 19 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #TSA's mission creep is making the US a #policestate http://gu.com/p/37x7tApr 19 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2012: January - April Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 936.14 KBApr 19 12:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The TSA's mission creep is making the US a police state | Jennifer Abel | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 247.8 KBApr 19 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DrWho's sonic screwdriver 'invented' at Dundee University http://goo.gl/gx3vC cue a #BBC trademark #DMCA "for the public good"Apr 19 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #GregHam, #MenAtWork flute player, 'found dead' http://goo.gl/VZJMt interesting use of quotes there #bizarreApr 19 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bancos vão aplicar dinheiro do apoio estatal em dívida pública - Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/i9VGp #pt #poucavergonhaApr 19 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] punish your fans, all they do is give you money & free word of mouth publicity, the bastards http://goo.gl/0X6NC #NorwichCity !footballApr 19 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Dr Who's sonic screwdriver 'invented' at Dundee University .::. Size~: 66.39 KBApr 19 12:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Greg Ham, Men At Work flute player, 'found dead' .::. Size~: 68.32 KBApr 19 12:53
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Norwich City kit published on internet by boy ahead of launch .::. Size~: 74.82 KBApr 19 12:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] personally I'd clamp down on all that shit, I don't want no stinkin fans giving me free publicity & money, hang em from the stands as lessonApr 19 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Universe - S01-E01 - Secrets of the Sun (Full Episode) - YouTube http://goo.gl/olhjMApr 19 13:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Universe - S01-E01 - Secrets of the Sun (Full Episode)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 108.94 KBApr 19 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Why Mr. Fosspatents will not report that much on Oracle v Google? Because Oracle hired him."Oracle has very recently b... http://b1t.it/bk1dApr 19 13:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The audience is listening - live http://goo.gl/lEtXl this tune is insane with a cool as fuck riff, from a true master of the guitar #VaiApr 19 13:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Why Mr. Fosspatents will not report that much on Oracle v… .::. Size~: 146.05 KBApr 19 13:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steve Vai - The audience is Listening (G3 2005)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 137 KBApr 19 13:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Oracle & #FlorianMueller Got Hitched http://goo.gl/UFNwt are you paying attention #BBC? He's NEVER been "independent"Apr 19 13:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw -  Oracle  and Florian Mueller Got Hitched ~ pj .::. Size~: 28.81 KBApr 19 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HBO Decides It Still Isn't Difficult Enough To Watch HBO Shows http://goo.gl/NJdK7Apr 19 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: Closing remarks on FOSSpatents http://ur1.ca/91f49Apr 19 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HBO Decides It Still Isn't Difficult Enough To Watch HBO Shows | Techdirt .::. Size~: 49 KBApr 19 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Closing remarks on FOSSpatents | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 14.01 KBApr 19 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Large Hadron Collider reaches record 1380 proton bunches per beam http://identi.ca/url/69035431 !scienceApr 19 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Heap overflow bug in OpenSSL http://identi.ca/url/69035443 !linuxApr 19 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My closing remarks on FOSSpatents :-) http://ur1.ca/91f49Apr 19 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Large Hadron Collider reaches record 1380 proton bunches per beam .::. Size~: 57.16 KBApr 19 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Full-disclosure] incorrect integer conversions in OpenSSL can result in memory corruption. .::. Size~: 10.75 KBApr 19 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Closing remarks on FOSSpatents | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 14.11 KBApr 19 13:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia Dips Into Red as Q1 Sales Drop Nearly 29 Percent - http://ur1.ca/91f62 "$250 million in “platform support payments” from #Microsoft"Apr 19 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Der deutsche Musikmarkt schrumpft nicht mehr - http://bit.ly/HPpdS3 well, there you go #deApr 19 13:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Dips Into Red as Q1 Sales Drop Nearly 29 Percent - Ina Fried - Mobile - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 64.11 KBApr 19 13:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Musikindustrie: Der deutsche Musikmarkt schrumpft nicht mehr - SPIEGEL ONLINE .::. Size~: 85.98 KBApr 19 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ELES VIVEM - THEY LIVE (1988) - FULL MOVIE - YouTube http://goo.gl/gI0fB #movies #nwoApr 19 13:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ELES VIVEM - THEY LIVE (1988) - FULL MOVIE       - YouTube .::. Size~: 123.71 KBApr 19 13:58
DaemonFCJava must now be considered as tainted as .NETApr 19 14:20
DaemonFCthat seems to be the thing to take away from Oracle and their patent and copyright trollingApr 19 14:21
DaemonFCschestowitz: When do you think they'll start coming after users of OpenJDK that aren't indemnified by Red Hat?Apr 19 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Creatively using domain names? I think it's definitely hackish: working your own interesting things into a rigid system in a clever way.Apr 19 14:23
DaemonFCI don't see why the GSA scandal is such a big dealApr 19 14:25
DaemonFCthey wasted about a million dollars on fancy hotels and first class plane ticketsApr 19 14:25
DaemonFCthat's about as meaningful to the size of the US Federal budget as me spending about 10 cents out of my budgetApr 19 14:26
DaemonFCthe more people talk about this, the less they talk about Congress wasting trillions on everything from Iraq to getting free postage for their re-election campaign lettersApr 19 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] .@CCkorea releases CC license search service - Let's CC - as open source (GPLv3): http://ur1.ca/91fe7Apr 19 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft developer evangelist retracts claim that Mango devices will get Apollo http://goo.gl/EGIkR AKA "we're desperate for sales"Apr 19 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @ovigia I have it already, in DVD. With extras and stuff. But it was not easy to find.Apr 19 14:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: neomparam/letscc · GitHub .::. Size~: 46.66 KBApr 19 14:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft developer evangelist retracts claim that Mango devices will get Apollo | The Verge .::. Size~: 85.97 KBApr 19 14:28
DaemonFC"We're getting taxed like we live in Massachusetts and services like we live in Alabama.Apr 19 14:30
DaemonFCWhere is the accountability for these people?"Apr 19 14:30
DaemonFC-me on the local RepublicansApr 19 14:30
MinceRyou're lucky you don't get taxed like you live in hungary and serviced like you live in hungary.Apr 19 14:36
DaemonFCMinceR: I saw a UN report on the most to least technologically advanced countries the other dayApr 19 14:38
DaemonFCthe US was something like 2, and Hungary was 22Apr 19 14:38
MinceR:>Apr 19 14:39
DaemonFCHungary seems to be sliding further and further in the wrong direction every yearApr 19 14:39
DaemonFCacross the entire board on every UN studyApr 19 14:39
DaemonFCor at least the ones I've looked atApr 19 14:39
MinceRthe nazis are ensuring that it will accelerate that way and go off the deep endApr 19 14:40
MinceRcurrently they're trying to persuade the IMF and the EU to not offer the loan that some say could save the country from going bankruptApr 19 14:40
schestowitzwhat's at the deep end? I thought it was already dried up.Apr 19 14:40
MinceRwell, the state hasn't failed yet (in some ways)Apr 19 14:41
DaemonFCAfghanistan doesn't really sound so bad if you go by certain charts on Wikipedia thoughApr 19 14:41
DaemonFCthey're #1 in opium and cannabis productionApr 19 14:41
schestowitzMinceR: one of our major clients is going titsup hereApr 19 14:41
schestowitzSo the UK too is not doing terribly well, no country doesApr 19 14:41
MinceRsure, but the UK isn't trying to headbutt a wall made of concreteApr 19 14:42
schestowitzin the UK, over 5000 construction companies went bankrupt in recent yearsApr 19 14:42
schestowitzLess government funds lead to less projects, which drains up everythingApr 19 14:42
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_international_rankings_by_countryApr 19 14:42
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DaemonFCApparently Hungary has a decent men's soccer teamApr 19 14:42
schestowitz[14:41] <DaemonFC> they're #1 in opium and cannabis productionApr 19 14:42
MinceRwho said that?Apr 19 14:42
schestowitzThey must be gay thenApr 19 14:42
MinceRhungary stopped doing well at soccer ages agoApr 19 14:42
MinceRthough the nazis are wasting a lot of money on soccer nowApr 19 14:43
MinceRthe country is crumbling yet they're building stadiumsApr 19 14:43
schestowitzmaybe they are not stadiumsApr 19 14:43
MinceRbecause the dictator is a hobby soccer playerApr 19 14:43
schestowitz!google florida stadiums homeless sheltersApr 19 14:43
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MinceRthe nazis couldn't care less about the homelessApr 19 14:43
schestowitzwhy not?Apr 19 14:44
schestowitzThose people could rise uoApr 19 14:44
schestowitzThey'll pull a Katrina on emApr 19 14:44
MinceRbecause their basis are rich peopleApr 19 14:44
MinceR(rich and stupid nationalists)Apr 19 14:44
schestowitzsame as every nationApr 19 14:44
schestowitza friend of mine told me last night at the run that sociopaths took ovetr governmentApr 19 14:44
schestowitzI told him, tool over?Apr 19 14:45
DaemonFCHitler used the 1936 Olympics as a mass propaganda campaignApr 19 14:45
schestowitzThey've ALWAYS been thereApr 19 14:45
schestowitzand he couldn't prove me wrongApr 19 14:45
DaemonFCthe Germany that foreign tourists saw was not representative of what was really going on thereApr 19 14:45
schestowitzthat's 3 years before the warApr 19 14:45
schestowitzit wasn't yet a HellholeApr 19 14:45
schestowitzjust hyperinflation perhaps, not sure when that started..Apr 19 14:46
DaemonFCit was, they just made things look a lot better as a facadeApr 19 14:46
DaemonFCpeople were supposed to see all the great things the Nazis had accomplishedApr 19 14:46
schestowitzlike all olympic gamesApr 19 14:46
schestowitzThis year in London is the same, just a distractionApr 19 14:46
schestowitzthe queen will do a salute and pretend all is glory and promise in her landApr 19 14:46
DaemonFCnot a horror show where they were harassing and rounding up dissidents and political enemiesApr 19 14:46
schestowitzmaybe scaring them away at this stageApr 19 14:47
MinceRfor her, it isApr 19 14:47
schestowitzLike Viktor Orban is doingApr 19 14:47
schestowitzGodel, Einstein...Apr 19 14:47
MinceRthat's what monarchy is about, after allApr 19 14:47
schestowitzWhat do you call a Hungarian citizen in 2012?Apr 19 14:47
DaemonFCthe Chinese are doing some of the same things the Nazis didApr 19 14:48
schestowitz"A man/woman who didn't fleee on time"Apr 19 14:48
MinceRschestowitz: an unfortunate personApr 19 14:48
MinceRdidn't or couldn'tApr 19 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Sun Advice Columnist Advised MPs On UK Porn-Block Plans http://goo.gl/9VoSk you have to laugh sometimesApr 19 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @evan the Spanish govt may take it as an act of war & send some missiles your way? #kiddinApr 19 14:48
schestowitzyeahApr 19 14:48
DaemonFCkilling babies that were born with a deformity for example Apr 19 14:48
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MinceRthere will be a lot of people who can't fleeApr 19 14:48
schestowitzDaemonFC: in the West it's done tooApr 19 14:48
DaemonFCnot as state policyApr 19 14:48
schestowitzEither to a foetus or to a born baby, depending whereApr 19 14:49
DaemonFCthe welfare system is such that the parents can go ahead and decide to give birth to it anyway and make it a burden of the stateApr 19 14:49
DaemonFCthere's no such option in China, even if the parents were willing and able to pay for the expenses themselvesApr 19 14:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: what would you do with twins conjoined by the heads with no chance of separation without death of at least one?Apr 19 14:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: let me tell you, I am GLAD I don't have to worry about all the reproduction stuffApr 19 14:50
DaemonFCwell, in this case either one must die or both of themApr 19 14:50
DaemonFCI think the choice is obviousApr 19 14:50
schestowitzIt's so complicated, delicate, and prone to make women stressed, jealous, insecure, or put in pain... being men is easierApr 19 14:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: another choice is let both liveApr 19 14:51
schestowitzconjoinedApr 19 14:51
schestowitzgetting 'dirty looks'Apr 19 14:51
schestowitzhaving no sex life :./Apr 19 14:51
schestowitzunless they're fallinh in loveApr 19 14:51
schestowitzjoined by the hip is not as badApr 19 14:52
DaemonFCanother way to say this is, there are two people on opposite ends of a burning buildingApr 19 14:52
DaemonFCyou have time to save one of themApr 19 14:52
schestowitzworse case scenario is maybe maimingApr 19 14:52
DaemonFCyou don't know either of themApr 19 14:52
DaemonFCwhich one do you save?Apr 19 14:52
schestowitzbut you can let both live too, just not a high quality lifeApr 19 14:52
schestowitz4 legs, 4 armsApr 19 14:52
DaemonFCof course the other choice can be let both of them burn to deathApr 19 14:52
schestowitzit's like Mortal Cmbat's bossApr 19 14:53
DaemonFCI hope I never have to make a decision that's anything like thatApr 19 14:53
schestowitzDaemonFC: no burning in this caseApr 19 14:53
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DaemonFCno matter what you do there will be guiltApr 19 14:53
schestowitzbut anyway, ultrasound often eliminates many of those "conjoined" casesApr 19 14:53
schestowitzWhile the US and Russian nuclear "experiments" only make labour deformities ever ,more commonApr 19 14:54
schestowitzesp. in places like Iraq, suggest statistics (enriched Uranium)Apr 19 14:54
DaemonFCwhen is the last time the US has detonated a nuclear weapon?Apr 19 14:55
schestowitz50s maybe?Apr 19 14:55
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests_of_the_United_StatesApr 19 14:55
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schestowitzbut the half life of nuclear effects is very longApr 19 14:56
DaemonFCSeptember 23, 1992Apr 19 14:56
schestowitzlike thousands if yearsApr 19 14:56
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_JulinApr 19 14:56
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DaemonFCwell, the idea of doing them out in the middle of a huge desert is that it would minimize the effects on a civilian populationApr 19 14:57
DaemonFCI'd feel more comfortable if they'd pass a law specifically banning more testsApr 19 14:58
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DaemonFCthe only reason we stopped was because of an executive order Apr 19 14:58
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DaemonFCinstead of tests, there are computer simulations that they are doing nowApr 19 14:59
DaemonFCso the tests themselves are not really necessaryApr 19 15:00
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trinity_test.oggApr 19 15:00
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schestowitzfirst ever nuke explosionApr 19 15:01
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DaemonFCsome of the islands we tested on as far back as the 1950s are still uninhabitableApr 19 15:02
DaemonFCthey're fine for short stays, but you shouldn't eat anything you find there or stay too longApr 19 15:02
DaemonFCyou get things like radioactive coconutsApr 19 15:02
oiaohmThat don't stay on the islandApr 19 15:03
oiaohmYep you get cocanut trees around the area with higher than background randation.Apr 19 15:04
oiaohmEven on near by island.Apr 19 15:04
oiaohmThat were not in the bomb zone.Apr 19 15:04
oiaohmEven not allowing for radioactive messes us humans have caused.  Australian forces in the islands near us that were using in the world war II battle are still clearing out left over and now unstable ammo.Apr 19 15:06
schestowitzscience ftw?Apr 19 15:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: you got me watching those videos nowApr 19 15:07
schestowitzand reading about all those which they used for nuke "lite"Apr 19 15:07
schestowitzlike conventional,/nuke hybridsApr 19 15:08
schestowitzaren't these against conventions?Apr 19 15:08
schestowitzit's like mixing tobacco with cannabis and calling it "perfectly legit"Apr 19 15:08
formic_09:42 <@MinceR> the nazis couldn't care less about the homelessApr 19 15:12
formic_they should turn golf courses into low cost / public housingApr 19 15:12
formic_im actually tired of homeless people begging for change, but i'd support government finding them a homeApr 19 15:13
schestowitzThere are many homes without tenantsApr 19 15:13
schestowitzBut letting everyone have a place would devalue themApr 19 15:13
schestowitznot good for people who hoard propertiesApr 19 15:13
formic_those people are lobbyists or have lobbyistsApr 19 15:14
formic_lol I know someone who wants to move now that they have a value village near their houseApr 19 15:15
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MinceRformic_: afaik there aren't many golf courses in hungaristan :>Apr 19 15:15
formic_value village is kind of like the salvation army, but more for profitApr 19 15:16
schestowitzthey might even... HAVE TO TOUCH them !!Apr 19 15:16
formic_mincer - i see the business criminal assholes playing on them all the time here in CanadaApr 19 15:16
oiaohmschestowitz: define nuke hybrids.Apr 19 15:16
schestowitz!google shells enriched uraniumApr 19 15:16
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formic_!google steve jobs nuclear warApr 19 15:17
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oiaohmschestowitz: Ok how to dispose of r nuclear waste in a environmentally unfriendly method. Apr 19 15:18
oiaohmschestowitz: of course another warped and kinda insane usage of Depleted Uranium is USA tank armor.Apr 19 15:18
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formic_oiaohm - why is that insane, it'll poison the troops so they don't have a chance to turn against the gov'tApr 19 15:19
schestowitzTheir work is doneApr 19 15:20
formic_oiaohm - you don't want skilled troops back home ready to protect their families when shit hits the fanApr 19 15:20
schestowitzwhen they're veterans they're just dangerous in case of armed upriseApr 19 15:20
schestowitzmilitiasApr 19 15:21
schestowitzand gangsApr 19 15:21
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium#Armor_plateApr 19 15:21
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schestowitz35% of those who were in the Kuwait war are f*ed alreadyApr 19 15:21
schestowitzthat's 1 in 3 of a quarter of a million troopsApr 19 15:21
schestowitzcancer cases in children in Iraq grew sevenfoldApr 19 15:21
oiaohmAbout 95% of the depleted uranium produced is stored as uranium hexafluoride  << This is worse.Apr 19 15:22
oiaohmReally compared to uranium hexafluoride the tank armor and the shells are highly safe.Apr 19 15:22
formic_don't get me started on fluorideApr 19 15:23
formic_lolApr 19 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] A forum post of yours just helped me solve my pacman problem: thanks!Apr 19 15:23
oiaohmUranium fluoride does a real nice job on the human body.Apr 19 15:23
oiaohmThe fluoride gets it in.Apr 19 15:23
formic_fluoride is a byproduct of the nuclear industryApr 19 15:24
oiaohmNot all if it.Apr 19 15:24
oiaohmfluoride is natural to most water systems.Apr 19 15:24
formic_instead of paying enviro fees to dispose of it safely, they add it to the waterApr 19 15:24
formic_too much of anything is badApr 19 15:25
oiaohmhuman teeth depend on so much fluoride to harden.Apr 19 15:25
oiaohmBut yes too much is a bad thing.Apr 19 15:25
formic_calcium works betterApr 19 15:25
oiaohmNoApr 19 15:25
formic_fluoride works as a calcium replacementApr 19 15:25
formic_read a book on itApr 19 15:25
oiaohmThe coating on teeth is a fluoride calcium mix.Apr 19 15:25
oiaohmThe mix ratio is kinda key.Apr 19 15:26
formic_only because of the 50+ years of fluoride contaminationApr 19 15:26
formic_also, no studies exist that show that ingesting fluoride helps teethApr 19 15:26
oiaohmI grew up in a area with water with almost no fluoride.Apr 19 15:26
oiaohmSame with foodApr 19 15:26
formic_I grew up in an area with tons of fluorideApr 19 15:26
oiaohmPeople like me who took fluoride at the right time have good teeth.Apr 19 15:27
formic_I've had to get tons of fillings, and teeth removedApr 19 15:27
oiaohmPeople who did not lost most of there teeth.Apr 19 15:27
oiaohmNote the word right time.Apr 19 15:27
formic_so it either doesn't work as advertised, or it actually causes problemsApr 19 15:27
oiaohmToo much fluoride is destructive.  Too little.Apr 19 15:27
formic_dental fluorosisApr 19 15:27
oiaohmBasically there is a key point.Apr 19 15:27
formic_'texas teeth'Apr 19 15:27
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formic_oiaohm - http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pineal/luke-1997.htmlApr 19 15:29
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oiaohmformic_: I know that.Apr 19 15:29
oiaohmIe overdose is really bad on mind.Apr 19 15:30
formic_oiaohm - here is a list of studiesApr 19 15:30
formic_http://www.fluoridealert.org/caseagainstfluoride-appendices.htmlApr 19 15:30
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formic_scientific studiesApr 19 15:30
formic_not a bunch of conspiracy sitesApr 19 15:30
formic_lolApr 19 15:30
oiaohmDo you exactly know why fluoride is so good for teeth.Apr 19 15:30
oiaohmAt the right level.Apr 19 15:30
DaemonFCI don't know if this town puts fluoride in the water, but there's stuff floating in itApr 19 15:30
formic_it substitutes for calcium in the teethApr 19 15:31
DaemonFCso......not too worried about the fluoride Apr 19 15:31
oiaohmformic_: in fact no.Apr 19 15:31
formic_i'd rather drink milk over fluroide contaminated waterApr 19 15:31
oiaohmformic_: think anti plaque agent.Apr 19 15:31
schestowitz fluroide contaminated cow :-)Apr 19 15:31
oiaohmformic_: it blocks plaque acid.Apr 19 15:31
formic_you don't think plaque will adapt to fluoride?Apr 19 15:32
oiaohmformic_: they have not yet.Apr 19 15:32
schestowitzformic_: just don't ingest your toothpasteApr 19 15:32
DaemonFCif you brush your teeth two or three times a day like you ought to, floss at least once a day, and use a good antiseptic mouthwash....Apr 19 15:32
oiaohmformic_: And fluroide has been used against them from way back in china before the birth of christ.Apr 19 15:32
formic_schestowitz - I use xylitol toothpasteApr 19 15:32
DaemonFCyou shouldn't have too many preventable dental problems Apr 19 15:32
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DaemonFCI don't like those alcohol free mouthwashes, they turn your teeth brownApr 19 15:33
formic_after switching to xylitol based toothpaste, I haven't had to get any more fillings and the Dentist likes my teethApr 19 15:33
formic_xylitol prevents plaque from sticking to your teethApr 19 15:33
DaemonFCcolgate got sued over that and now as part of the settlement, they have to pay to have your teeth professionally cleaned if you can show that their mouthwash did thatApr 19 15:34
formic_instead of adding some toxic agent to your teethApr 19 15:34
DaemonFCI really need to schedule a cleaning come to think of it, I get one free each year on my dental planApr 19 15:34
DaemonFCI always use itApr 19 15:35
schestowitz"alternative" toothpasteApr 19 15:37
DaemonFCformic_: The toothpaste I feel is dangerous is the stuff they add triclosan toApr 19 15:37
schestowitzlike "organic"Apr 19 15:37
DaemonFCthat acts like estrogen in humans apparentlyApr 19 15:37
*schestowitz uses a "mainstream toothpaste"Apr 19 15:37
oiaohmformic_: really xylitol + fluoride at right levels works better.   xylitol works as filler and fluoride works as hardnerApr 19 15:37
DaemonFCplus they use it in everything, so it's basically useless as an antibacterial agent nowApr 19 15:37
oiaohmformic_: to allow deeper holes to fill in than xylitol could alone.Apr 19 15:38
formic_oiaohm - if fluoride is really a hardener its not working for meApr 19 15:38
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oiaohmformic_: Note I say right levels.Apr 19 15:38
formic_oiaohm - adding it to the water also does not harden my teethApr 19 15:38
oiaohmformic_: if you get too much its like over hardening steal.Apr 19 15:38
oiaohmformic_: Ie too hard equals brittle.Apr 19 15:38
schestowitzstill steel?Apr 19 15:38
oiaohmsteel sorry.Apr 19 15:39
formic_0.7ppm in my waterApr 19 15:39
formic_I can't remember how much was in toothpasteApr 19 15:39
schestowitzpeople have dreams where their teeth falls off...Apr 19 15:39
schestowitzor where they go into water and have wallet/ phone in pocketApr 19 15:39
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oiaohm0.7 ppm + toothpaste with high fluoride could have been over dose.Apr 19 15:39
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oiaohmformic_: that is the problem with fluoride is only good at the right dose over or under does not help much.Apr 19 15:40
formic_oiaohm - should be in toothpaste onlyApr 19 15:40
Diablo-D3fluroide doesnt help with teeth decay anyhowApr 19 15:40
Diablo-D3infact it may cause itApr 19 15:40
oiaohmformic_:  even toothpaste might not spreed.Apr 19 15:41
formic_you don't help people with depression by adding anti depressants to the water so that everyone is medicated to fix that small percentageApr 19 15:41
oiaohmDiablo-D3: it comes down to dosage.Apr 19 15:41
Diablo-D3yes, and any dosage is eventually lethal to humansApr 19 15:41
oiaohmformic_: Ie month wash at right level that you spit out is basically ideal Apr 19 15:41
oiaohmDiablo-D3: to be correct a low enough dosage human body can handle without issues with fluoride.Apr 19 15:42
formic_fluoride builds up in your bodyApr 19 15:42
formic_diablo-d3 is correctApr 19 15:42
DaemonFCI just buy whatever I have good coupons for assuming I can't find what I need at the dollar storeApr 19 15:43
formic_most studies don't look into life long fluoride exposureApr 19 15:43
oiaohmThe  body does dispose of it at a particular rate.  formic_Apr 19 15:43
oiaohmformic_: but its a fairly slow rate.Apr 19 15:43
DaemonFCpeople put too much emphasis on price / quality in many casesApr 19 15:43
formic_just like the radiation from the airport scannersApr 19 15:43
formic_they look at one useApr 19 15:43
formic_well its harmless this one time, should be ok 1000's of timesApr 19 15:43
DaemonFCthe truth about toothpaste and soap and household detergents is that they are dirt cheap to make and there isn't a whole lot of difference between most of them except what they costApr 19 15:44
oiaohmformic_: radiation resistance is part dna linked to your cells proteciton against dna damage.Apr 19 15:44
oiaohmformic_: same reason why some people can smoke all there life with only minor side effects.Apr 19 15:45
DaemonFCif the government gets involved in advertising to tell a company what they can't say, they start shifting to things that are factual but don't really matter muchApr 19 15:45
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formic_TSA: "You can get dosed with radiation, or we can rape you?"Apr 19 15:45
DaemonFCwhen the US government was just starting to regulate tobacco, you had cigarette companies telling people what brands doctors liked to smokeApr 19 15:45
Diablo-D3"only if I get a reacharound"Apr 19 15:46
DaemonFCwhen the government said they couldn't do that anymore, one company started putting "It's toasted" in their cigarette adsApr 19 15:46
DaemonFCeven though all cigarette tobacco is "toasted"Apr 19 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #HP To Certify #Ubuntu 12.04 LTS For Its Proliant Servers http://goo.gl/ZMzMAApr 19 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Fark's Drew Curtis Explains How To Beat A Patent Troll (And Live To Tell The Tale) http://goo.gl/mVKZAApr 19 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nokia regista prejuízo de 1,34 mil milhões de euros no primeiro trimestre- Jornal de negócios http://goo.gl/TrP8C #msnokia #crashandburnApr 19 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I love the analogy with patent trolls "don't negotiate with the terrorists"Apr 19 15:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HP To Certify Ubuntu 12.04 LTS For Its Proliant Servers - Slashdot .::. Size~: 54.9 KBApr 19 15:46
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DaemonFCit's all about a psychological association that is meant to influence the customer's behaviorApr 19 15:46
formic_I can't wait for some food to advertise that it's 'arsenic free'Apr 19 15:47
DaemonFCthe same techniques are used by many other kinds of products, including ones that are benign or beneficial but provide no real benefit over the competitionApr 19 15:47
formic_mcdonalds does it with their coffeeApr 19 15:47
formic_'we use arabica beans'Apr 19 15:47
formic_90% of fuckign coffee isApr 19 15:48
DaemonFCyeah, most coffee is arabicaApr 19 15:48
Diablo-D3look at post-cancer cigarette advertising from the 50sApr 19 15:48
DaemonFCunless it's instant, which uses lower quality robusto beansApr 19 15:48
Diablo-D3"its toasted"Apr 19 15:48
DaemonFCsee? he only pretends to ignore meApr 19 15:48
DaemonFCrobusto coffee beans do not produce a good cup of coffeeApr 19 15:49
DaemonFCbut instant coffee is usually pretty bad anywayApr 19 15:49
DaemonFCso they use it as a way of disposing of coffee beans they couldn't get away with selling you as "good" coffeeApr 19 15:49
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formic_I only drink eco friendly free range ethical coffeeApr 19 15:50
DaemonFCyou only rarely see robusto beans in non-instant coffee for saleApr 19 15:50
DaemonFCthe dollar store got some in one time real cheapApr 19 15:50
DaemonFCVietnam produces a lot of themApr 19 15:51
DaemonFCso if you drink instant, there's a good chance it's robusto beans from VietnamApr 19 15:51
formic_tim hortons coats their cups with a thin layer of vanillaApr 19 15:51
formic_makes it slightly more addictiveApr 19 15:51
DaemonFCI just buy the big cans of ground coffee from ALDIApr 19 15:51
Diablo-D3thats slickApr 19 15:52
DaemonFClike $5 and some changeApr 19 15:52
oiaohmMind you the is a evil thing you can do with coffeeApr 19 15:52
oiaohmThere is a thing called okra coffee Apr 19 15:52
oiaohmNo caffenee can basically be cut into coffeeApr 19 15:52
oiaohmNice bit the okra will pick of the flavour of the real coffee mixed with it.Apr 19 15:53
oiaohmOk nice or underhanded fact about it.Apr 19 15:53
DaemonFCsomething that seems to be popping up now in the US that you didn't see before a couple years ago is double caffeinated coffeeApr 19 15:53
DaemonFCthat has to be really bad for youApr 19 15:53
Diablo-D3thats disgustingApr 19 15:53
oiaohmMost people are not aware that you can cut coffee.Apr 19 15:54
Diablo-D3why the fuck would you want toApr 19 15:54
Diablo-D3hell, blends are shitApr 19 15:55
DaemonFCdilutionApr 19 15:55
Diablo-D3thats cutting coffee with OTHER coffeeApr 19 15:55
DaemonFCthe okra is probably cheaper for them than using coffeeApr 19 15:55
oiaohmDiablo-D3: okra is not another coffee.Apr 19 15:55
DaemonFCso they replace a little bit of the coffee with itApr 19 15:55
Diablo-D3thats not what I said.Apr 19 15:55
Diablo-D3pay attentionApr 19 15:55
oiaohmOkra cut with coffee ground looks the same.Apr 19 15:55
oiaohmTastes very much the same.Apr 19 15:56
oiaohmJust less caffeine or no caffeine.Apr 19 15:56
formic_terribleApr 19 15:56
oiaohmIn the USA civil war at times they got up to 90 % Okra to 10 % CoffeeApr 19 15:57
oiaohmKinda not good for the trop trying to stay awake on guard duty.Apr 19 15:57
oiaohmTastes looks and smelles like coffee but not working.Apr 19 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @ovigia Nokia regista prejuízo de 1,34 mil milhões de euros no primeiro trimestre- Jornal de negócios http://goo.gl/TrP8C #msnokia #c ...Apr 19 15:58
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schestowitzTastes looks and smelles like coffeeApr 19 15:58
schestowitzcontradictionApr 19 15:58
oiaohmPure Okra coffee has a different taste.Apr 19 15:58
oiaohmIts when mixed with proper coffee bean does it copy.Apr 19 15:58
schestowitzthe only tasty thing in coffee cups is sugar and milkApr 19 15:59
schestowitzcoffee without milk can be disgustingApr 19 15:59
oiaohmI drink coffee black.Apr 19 15:59
schestowitztea is more possible, cream makes it betteApr 19 15:59
schestowitzoiaohm: sugar?Apr 19 15:59
oiaohmNo suger.Apr 19 15:59
schestowitzmmmApr 19 15:59
oiaohmYes it does have a taste.Apr 19 15:59
schestowitzis it used like a drug?Apr 19 16:00
schestowitzstimulant?Apr 19 16:00
Diablo-D3coffee done correctly tastes very goodApr 19 16:00
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Diablo-D3most people are fucktardsApr 19 16:00
MinceRooh, someone doesn't like coffee :>Apr 19 16:00
Diablo-D3DURR HURR FRENCH ROASTApr 19 16:00
Diablo-D3yeah, good luck burning your beans moronApr 19 16:00
schestowitzlolApr 19 16:00
oiaohmMine you I do like 90 percent cocca  chocolate as welll Apr 19 16:00
oiaohmI do like bitter tastes.Apr 19 16:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1527885Apr 19 16:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Speed up your computer with Ubuntu http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/features/linux/3351283/speed-up-your-computer-with-ubuntu/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxApr 19 16:01
oiaohmIf you don't like bitter tastes you don't like black coffee.Apr 19 16:01
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Speed up your computer with Ubuntu - PC Advisor .::. Size~: 122.13 KBApr 19 16:01
schestowitz"Unity will continue to evolve and improve. "Apr 19 16:01
schestowitzoiaohm: why like bitter?Apr 19 16:01
schestowitzit's just like soil in waterApr 19 16:01
Diablo-D3why like sour?Apr 19 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I've got a server down, but it looks like our failover is working, so I'm taking my time getting it back online.Apr 19 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @kopolee11 After years of using !Ubuntu, I've finally migrated to !Debian. Feels good to support the community developed OS.Apr 19 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Julian Assange's lawyer 'prevented from boarding flight at Heathrow' http://gu.com/p/37xqe #PoliceState #WikileaksApr 19 16:01
schestowitz"diluted mud" :-)Apr 19 16:01
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schestowitzDiablo-D3: I don't like sourApr 19 16:01
schestowitzsour-sweet okApr 19 16:02
oiaohmschestowitz: Not proper made coffee if it tastes like mud you still have grainuals in it.Apr 19 16:02
schestowitzthese are things that the body repelsApr 19 16:02
oiaohmschestowitz: badly made coffee I hate as well.Apr 19 16:02
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Diablo-D3coffee should NEVER taste like mudApr 19 16:02
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Diablo-D3sounds like you didnt grind it rightApr 19 16:02
Diablo-D3and yes, you have to grind your ownApr 19 16:03
Diablo-D3learn how to do it properly for an aeropressApr 19 16:03
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm not sure why they don't just use the Qt version with Compiz as its window managerApr 19 16:03
Diablo-D3and learn to boil water at the right tempApr 19 16:03
oiaohmDiablo-D3: only greek if you drink the bottom of cup should taste like mud.Apr 19 16:03
Diablo-D3and make sure the beans are freshApr 19 16:03
oiaohmDiablo-D3: because that is where the grainuals are in greek.Apr 19 16:03
schestowitz_Goblin: recording tonight?Apr 19 16:04
_GoblinI wasn't aware of the boiling point of water fluctuating......unless of course you are at altitude....Apr 19 16:04
oiaohm_Goblin: it does a lot in fact.Apr 19 16:04
schestowitzdoes that change it?Apr 19 16:04
_Goblinhow does one boil water at the right temperatureApr 19 16:04
Diablo-D3_Goblin: most people use fucking automatic potsApr 19 16:04
schestowitzoiaohm: water only has a volume anomaly around 0Apr 19 16:04
Diablo-D3that NEVER get the water hot enoughApr 19 16:04
Diablo-D3no wonder their coffee tastes like shitApr 19 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] So, it is easier to sell non-Freedom than Freedom. This does not make it a better thing to do though.Apr 19 16:04
_Goblinwell if it reaches boiling point....its er...boilingApr 19 16:04
oiaohm_Goblin: depending on what is in your water alters when it boiling point.Apr 19 16:04
_Goblintrue...Apr 19 16:05
oiaohm_Goblin: as well as air pressure.Apr 19 16:05
Diablo-D3and you dont boil the water depending on how you're doing itApr 19 16:05
_Goblinbut then its not water if contains something else....its water+ XXX in a solutionApr 19 16:05
Diablo-D3it should be right below boilingApr 19 16:05
DaemonFCyou shouldn't be boiling coffeeApr 19 16:05
Diablo-D3around 200FApr 19 16:05
DaemonFCyou're ruining it if you doApr 19 16:05
Diablo-D3and use fucking filtered waterApr 19 16:05
DaemonFCthe water should be around 190 degrees FahrenheitApr 19 16:05
Diablo-D3quit using it straight from the tapApr 19 16:05
oiaohmIf water is too hot it also ruins coffee.Apr 19 16:05
Diablo-D3chlorine and flouride RUIN coffeeApr 19 16:05
_Goblinvery true....although with instant it makes little difference in taste...Apr 19 16:06
DaemonFCmost auto drip and electric percolators operate at about that tempApr 19 16:06
Diablo-D3and it should be fresh waterApr 19 16:06
oiaohminstant most is pre ruined.Apr 19 16:06
Diablo-D3instant coffee is not coffeeApr 19 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Are evangelical Christians on another planet? http://gu.com/p/37xz8Apr 19 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A few little mistakes, but I fully agree to the"The value of Fedora to Red Hat is that it keeps Red Hat honest and tru... http://b1t.it/bk4WApr 19 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] But we have laws to prevent that...Apr 19 16:06
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DaemonFCI used to eat instant coffee granulesApr 19 16:06
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_Goblinto be honest I don't dwel on such matters....Apr 19 16:06
DaemonFCwhen I was doing double shiftsApr 19 16:06
Diablo-D3coffee MUST be ground from beans on the spotApr 19 16:06
Diablo-D3grounds older than 3 days taste like shitApr 19 16:06
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Diablo-D3most coffee drinkers who arent fucktards ground them fresh every potApr 19 16:07
_Goblinschestowitz, I believe, the higher you go the lower the boiling point for water...Apr 19 16:07
DaemonFCwell, if they are vacuum sealed right away, it's alrightApr 19 16:07
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_coffeeApr 19 16:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Instant coffee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 73.72 KBApr 19 16:08
Diablo-D3oiaohm: yes, we know what the fuck instant coffee isApr 19 16:08
Diablo-D3its shitApr 19 16:08
_GoblinDaemonFC, maybe grind your beans in space...then providing cosmic rays don't effect the beans, you'll be ok for a long time...Apr 19 16:08
schestowitz_Goblin: it it related to oxygen density or gravity?Apr 19 16:08
_GoblinpassApr 19 16:09
_Goblinmy chemistry skills stop there.Apr 19 16:09
oiaohmDiablo-D3:  You and I know but not a lot do.  Spray drying produces a decent instant coffee.  But most is produced freese drying so effectively destroying the flavour agents.Apr 19 16:10
Diablo-D3fuck instant.Apr 19 16:11
oiaohmDaemonFC: vacuum can have negitive effects on coffee.  Kinda makes the stuff a prick to store.Apr 19 16:11
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/First-update-for-GNOME-3-4-arrives-1542711.htmlApr 19 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First update for GNOME 3.4 arrives - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.25 KBApr 19 16:12
_Goblinahh..there we go found it....... for every 500 ft of height, boiling point drops 1 degree.Apr 19 16:12
oiaohmDiablo-D3: at times I have had to make do traving light doing terain mapping you don't have the time to be grinding coffee.Apr 19 16:13
_Goblinso maybe a energy saving tip for business would be to locate the t-room at the top of their skyscraper...Apr 19 16:13
oiaohm_Goblin: maybe but that could ruin the coffee by being too cold to extract the flavour.Apr 19 16:14
_Goblinmake sure the heating is on.....Apr 19 16:14
_GoblinI love this coffee snobbery, as if drinking the stuff is something of an artform...its coffee...they drink it in boardrooms, they drink it in the slums....coffee is...er coffee....Apr 19 16:15
oiaohm_Goblin: also just to be evil.Apr 19 16:15
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oiaohm_Goblin: when you are inside a building the 500 ft does not work out that way.Apr 19 16:15
oiaohmSince the building can be slightly presurised.Apr 19 16:16
_Goblinwhat altitude?Apr 19 16:16
_Goblinopen a windowApr 19 16:16
oiaohmAirconned buildingsApr 19 16:16
oiaohmNo windows to open at times.Apr 19 16:16
_Goblinah....maybe then the UK have the innovation....we have the ability to open the windows on the top floor.Apr 19 16:16
_GoblinI jest of course......... Apr 19 16:17
oiaohmBut that does not stop all the floors under that cannot open windows from getting presure.Apr 19 16:17
oiaohmSo placement of coffee machine correctly is not a simple as it sounds.Apr 19 16:17
_Goblinsorry to interject anyway..... I love this "War on Coffee", is this a new US campaign?  We've had the war on Terror now we are moving to beverages...Apr 19 16:18
*schestowitz has ov/hate affair with coffeeApr 19 16:18
oiaohm_Goblin: I am australian IT tech.  Coffee is sometimes a key part of the job.Apr 19 16:19
_Goblin:) It wasn't specifically at you.Apr 19 16:19
oiaohmSo its kinda tech thing.Apr 19 16:19
_Goblinand it was in jest.Apr 19 16:19
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oiaohmI have had the side effects of having too much coffee over too many monthsApr 19 16:20
_Goblinwe just always have to have a "War on" something, might as well be something that can be defeated...Apr 19 16:20
oiaohmWhere body took 4 months to be able function normally.Apr 19 16:20
oiaohmWithout coffeeApr 19 16:20
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oiaohmso its nasty.Apr 19 16:20
schestowitzTim - are we planning a show, photos arrived yet? ;-)Apr 19 16:21
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schestowitznew bannerApr 19 16:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: your exit message broadcasts channels you frequentApr 19 16:22
DaemonFC?Apr 19 16:22
schestowitz[16:20] <-- DaemonFC has left this channel ("PART #xfs :PART #ubuntu :PART #ubuntu-offtopic :PART #kubuntu-offtopic :QUIT :Leaving.").Apr 19 16:22
DaemonFCoh niceApr 19 16:22
DaemonFCPidginApr 19 16:23
schestowitzshouldn't do thatApr 19 16:23
schestowitznot unless a plugin acts like thisApr 19 16:23
DaemonFCIRC Helper and IRC MoreApr 19 16:24
oiaohmhttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303425504577353371141520382.htmlApr 19 16:24
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oiaohmHmm Nokia heading into hell.Apr 19 16:24
schestowitzit'll be "cheap whote" (what lumia mans in Spanish)Apr 19 16:25
schestowitzNoki's "cheap whore"Apr 19 16:25
schestowitzI think lumia is prostitute in Spanish?Apr 19 16:25
schestowitzDaemonFC: it HELPS ruin your privacyApr 19 16:26
oiaohmcolloquial prostituteApr 19 16:26
schestowitzaalthough whois reveals that tooApr 19 16:26
schestowitzjust doesn't broadcast itApr 19 16:26
oiaohmYep farily much.Apr 19 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Samsung targets #Apple in the US with eight more #patents http://goo.gl/fTvIV ah the rate of "innovation" in smartphones increasesApr 19 16:26
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oiaohmReally Apple started war with SamsungApr 19 16:27
oiaohmApple most likely will not win.Apr 19 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Notícias > Computadores > Lei da Cópia Privada não pode esperar por recomendações europeias http://goo.gl/qtfGU #pl118Apr 19 16:28
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oiaohmhttp://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/19/1357207/florian-mueller-outs-himself-as-oracle-employee  Who does not this guy sleep with.Apr 19 16:28
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DaemonFChe's a whore, whores are always for sale, the price is negotiable Apr 19 16:34
DaemonFCschestowitz: A guy walks up to a woman and asks "Would you have sex with me for a million dollars?" she says "Sure!"Apr 19 16:35
DaemonFCso he asks "How about for $100,000?" "OK"Apr 19 16:35
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DaemonFCso he asks her "What would you do for $100?"Apr 19 16:36
DaemonFCshe says "What do you think I am? Some kind of prostitute!?"Apr 19 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] My understanding was that thanks to lack of innovative ideas from music biz, it didn't have much further to shrink anywayApr 19 16:36
DaemonFCguy says "We already established what you are, now we're just talking price"Apr 19 16:36
DaemonFC:)Apr 19 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @QKaiser Can you forward it?Apr 19 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @rtroncy: I'm pretty happy to see 3 companies (TheDataTank, Kasabi and fluidops) talks producing and http://ur1. ...Apr 19 16:38
schestowitzI'll quote thatApr 19 16:38
schestowitzbut klaterApr 19 16:38
schestowitzno time for posting today, I thinkApr 19 16:38
schestowitz_Goblin: are you up for recording?Apr 19 16:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] Welcome our newest !TDF members: Michael, Cheng-Chia, Marcin, Yaron, Michał, Milos, Donald, Yury, Cristopher, Philippe, Winfried and Daniel!Apr 19 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] CVE-2012-2110: New OpenSSL vulnerability can result in memory corruption (Full Disclosure): http://bit.ly/HTojEvApr 19 16:41
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Pidgin IRC support is pretty bad without those pluginsApr 19 16:51
DaemonFCI wonder if they really are the cause of the quit message Apr 19 16:52
formic_daemonfc why use pidgin for irc?Apr 19 16:52
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MinceRthat's because he likes to suffer :>Apr 19 16:53
DaemonFCwho does?Apr 19 16:53
MinceRyouApr 19 16:53
formic_I do everything through a normal irc clientApr 19 16:54
formic_even IMApr 19 16:54
MinceRso do iApr 19 16:54
formic_BitlBeeApr 19 16:54
DaemonFCOK, who told MinceR  about the handcuffs and feather.......I meanApr 19 16:54
DaemonFCsuffer you say? :)Apr 19 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ISPs torch UK.gov's smut-blocking master plan - http://bit.ly/I1wHDc as well they should #censorshipApr 19 16:54
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DaemonFClolsmutApr 19 16:55
MinceRDaemonFC: "i'm a god. gods are all knowing"Apr 19 16:55
MinceRs/l k/l-k/Apr 19 16:55
DaemonFCYou're full of shit. People who are full of shit often think they know everything.Apr 19 16:55
DaemonFC:)Apr 19 16:55
DaemonFCMinceR, There's also the ghostbustersApr 19 16:58
DaemonFCWhen someone asks "Are you a god?" you say "Yes!"Apr 19 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] NEWS: Congrats to Linus on becoming a laureate for Millennium Technology Prize, one of the highest honors in tech: http://bit.ly/HPP1h0Apr 19 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] VC’s, incubators and startups come out in support of Twitter’s ground breaking Innovator’s Patent Agreement - http://tnw.co/I5cfDo coolApr 19 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] one way of looking at itApr 19 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] sureApr 19 17:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Industry Shows Support for Twitter's Innovator's Patent Agreement .::. Size~: 113.68 KBApr 19 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linus Torvalds is a finalist for the Millennium Technology Prize http://ur1.ca/91gabApr 19 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Portuguese authorities must consider open source - http://bit.ly/JOL7oO great news #ptApr 19 17:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Umstrittenes Abkommen: Europa gibt Fluggastdaten an USA weiter - http://bit.ly/HPSbkR really bad news #eu #privacyApr 19 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Norwich City soccer team demands teen's arrest for finding unannounced images on public website - http://bit.ly/HVYSWo more bullyingApr 19 17:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Facebook Blocking Stories About Richard #ODwyer's Fight Against Extradition To The US - http://bit.ly/HVZ8Vl shame on themApr 19 17:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Beliebte Symbolfiguren: Playmobil will nicht für Piratenpartei stehen - http://bit.ly/JOOeNn ha! this could be funApr 19 17:24
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DaemonFChttp://motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/04/worst-farm-bill-everApr 19 17:25
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DaemonFCthey keep subsidizing corn more and more every yearApr 19 17:25
DaemonFCat this rate, every inch of the US where you can grow corn should be covered with it in a few decadesApr 19 17:25
DaemonFCand when you have this much corn, you start finding more and more novel ways to get rid of itApr 19 17:26
DaemonFCat one point, the MAFIAA claimed that if you didn't go to the movies and buy popcorn, you were effectively stealing from corn farmersApr 19 17:26
DaemonFCthat amused meApr 19 17:27
DaemonFCI don't go to the movies often, and when I do, I don't get popcornApr 19 17:27
DaemonFCit's like 50 times as expensive to get popcorn at the movies as it is to get popcorn anywhere elseApr 19 17:27
DaemonFCsodas tooApr 19 17:27
DaemonFCthe only reason they do that is because they hardly make anything off the movie tickets after the MAFIAA eats them aliveApr 19 17:28
DaemonFCbut the MAFIAA forgot to mention that partApr 19 17:28
DaemonFCnow the MAFIAA is starting to demand that theaters all convert to digital projection equipment and streams movies from the MAFIAA over the internet, at the theater's own expenseApr 19 17:29
DaemonFCthat can cost up to $70,000 per screen just to do the conversionApr 19 17:29
DaemonFCmany smaller and locally owned movie theaters are going to go out of business if they're forced to do thisApr 19 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: No #startupsbe for me this evening. Having a lot of meetings during the day means working late in the e http://ur1. ...Apr 19 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Spotify As Stage: #Shakespeare Plays and Poems on Recordings - http://bit.ly/J8AEYM greatest playlist of them all (I may be biased)Apr 19 17:33
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DaemonFC"epically contested presidential election"Apr 19 17:33
DaemonFCRomney vs. Obama is epic?Apr 19 17:33
DaemonFCpeople throw that word around too muchApr 19 17:33
DaemonFCit's an epic disaster either way....Apr 19 17:34
DaemonFCthat's about itApr 19 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: #Facebook Blocking Stories About Richard #ODwyer's Fight Against Extradition To The US - http://bit.ly/HVZ8Vl #fbApr 19 17:34
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iophkhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/04/19/bloomberg_articlesM2PXM71A1I4H01-M2QE0.DTLApr 19 17:40
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DaemonFCas the corporate media proclaims they're "selling like hotcakes"Apr 19 17:41
DaemonFCa massive  dumping operation might pass as units shippedApr 19 17:41
DaemonFCbut it's not a long term strategyApr 19 17:41
DaemonFConce the Lumia is no longer subsidized all the way down to free, the carriers will end up choking on a supply build up that they can't get rid ofApr 19 17:42
DaemonFCif you look in the fine print though, you have to agree to a two year data plan (at least with AT&T) that costs a minimum of $30 a monthApr 19 17:43
DaemonFCso AT&T gets their piece of the subsidy pie backApr 19 17:43
DaemonFCbut Nokia doesn'tApr 19 17:43
DaemonFCthis is one of those things where the "free phone" is just a hook to get you on an expensive data plan you can't get rid of for a long timeApr 19 17:44
DaemonFCI hate cell phonesApr 19 17:51
DaemonFCI hate talking on the phone, I hate paying to have a phone at allApr 19 17:52
DaemonFCI have a prepaid phone that I don't use very much that just goes month to month and as long as I add $10 of credit to it each month, I get to keep all my unused minutesApr 19 17:53
DaemonFCI think I have thousands of them at this pointApr 19 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Portuguese authorities must consider open source - http://bit.ly/JOL7oO great news #ptApr 19 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Czech municipality uses open source for nearly everything http://ur1.ca/9140dApr 19 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Creator Linus Torvalds Receives One of World's Highest Technology Honors http://ur1.ca/91gr6 #linux #kernelApr 19 17:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First update for GNOME 3.4 arrives http://ur1.ca/91gr9 #gnome3 #gnuApr 19 17:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shuttleworth casts doubt on Red Hat .. http://ur1.ca/91gs5 but that would suck for him. He gets credit for Red Hat's code.Apr 19 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Is vendor lock-in costing Helsinki 3.4 million Euros per year? asks @kgerloff via @FSFE | http://red.ht/HVil84 #opengovApr 19 18:06
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formic_schestowitz - who posts comments as michael?Apr 19 18:08
formic_is this guy a troll?Apr 19 18:08
schestowitzit's a troll from COLAApr 19 18:08
schestowitz"snit"Apr 19 18:08
schestowitzMichael Glasser, a person with OCD or some kind, based on what he himself saidApr 19 18:08
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schestowitzzoobab_: http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/daa-platform/Apr 19 18:09
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XFaCEformic_: just for reference, Michael has been in therapyApr 19 18:09
schestowitzYesApr 19 18:09
XFaCEformic_: His Bat Signal is whenever Roy criticizes Apple everApr 19 18:09
schestowitzhe went to see professionals, he saidApr 19 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Dharma Punx" http://ur1.ca/91gte Apr 19 18:09
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schestowitzhe did not deny that he said it, he just doesn't want to talk about itApr 19 18:10
schestowitzI'd let him off the hook if it was physical deformityApr 19 18:10
XFaCEformic_: He's also very anal when it comes to minutia like "this app says "File>Quit" and this one says File>Close All"Apr 19 18:10
XFaCE"One sure sign of mental illness is egomania. You seem to think this article was written about you when I’ve never really even heard of you."Apr 19 18:11
XFaCEexactlyApr 19 18:11
schestowitzhttp://gregor.us/ng/north-america-takes-further-steps-to-export-its-natural-gas/Apr 19 18:11
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schestowitzthey can export natural gas through their are holesApr 19 18:11
XFaCEFracking yay!Apr 19 18:11
XFaCEPoison the water supply today!Apr 19 18:11
schestowitz$Apr 19 18:11
schestowitzbankrupt stateApr 19 18:11
schestowitzLiver sale... BARGAIN !!Apr 19 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I really like your new photo!Apr 19 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Does he have to wait until 3001 to find out if he won?Apr 19 18:13
DaemonFClandlord has his son out doing yard workApr 19 18:14
DaemonFCthat's oddApr 19 18:14
schestowitzwhat about Sawn?Apr 19 18:15
XFaCEDaemonFC: why?Apr 19 18:15
schestowitz*DawnApr 19 18:15
DaemonFCnormally he waits until the grass is like knee high then mows it, missing spots, and don't bother to do weed trimmingApr 19 18:15
schestowitzIs he doing the lawnApr 19 18:15
schestowitzor the Dawn?Apr 19 18:15
XFaCEDaemonFC: Maybe his son pissed him offApr 19 18:15
schestowitzThe lawd gets done less often than DawnApr 19 18:15
DaemonFChe must figure he's going to have an apartment to rentApr 19 18:15
DaemonFCthat's the only time he worries about making the place look halfway decentApr 19 18:15
schestowitzneeds to scrape off the smoke off the wallsApr 19 18:16
schestowitzand who knows what elseApr 19 18:16
DaemonFCshe smokes four packs a day!Apr 19 18:16
schestowitzwowApr 19 18:16
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DaemonFCher boyfriend (of the month) smokes tooApr 19 18:16
DaemonFCI can smell it in my apartment sometimesApr 19 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] HBO decides to fire more customers http://identi.ca/url/69040756Apr 19 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACTA Mobilization, And Beyond http://ur1.ca/91dz4 #actaApr 19 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] No rush, I was just wondering. The new anti-spam stuff will hopefully be helpful to you. See https://spamicity.info/Apr 19 18:16
schestowitzyou have a chimney next doorApr 19 18:16
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schestowitzI bet it spreads heat, who needs A/C?Apr 19 18:16
DaemonFCI prop open the screen door to the entryway sometimes to let it air out so it won't back up the cigarette smoke into my apartment Apr 19 18:16
DaemonFCthen one of them shuts it and stinks up my living room againApr 19 18:17
schestowitzNow I know what "skunkwork" meansApr 19 18:17
DaemonFCit must smell like someone lighting up a cigarette on a tuna boat over thereApr 19 18:17
schestowitzformic_: the trolls got pwnedApr 19 18:18
schestowitzwatch him goes into raving denial/attack modeApr 19 18:18
schestowitzDaemonFC: i love tunaApr 19 18:18
schestowitzhad some today in factApr 19 18:18
schestowitzin oil it stinksApr 19 18:19
DaemonFCevery morning when she wakes up she's over there hacking and coughingApr 19 18:19
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DaemonFCwell, in addition to cigarettes being nasty and horrible for your entire body, it gets more expensive every yearApr 19 18:20
DaemonFCI don't know why anyone would smoke that many cigarettesApr 19 18:21
DaemonFCthat's at least $15-20 a dayApr 19 18:21
DaemonFCand where is she getting the money now that she doesn't have a job?Apr 19 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Higher Concentrations of Heavy Metals Found in Post-Oil Spill Oysters from Gulf of Mexico http://identi.ca/url/69040862 !scienceApr 19 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "My Biggest Project"Apr 19 18:21
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DaemonFCshe doesn't have any savings at all, half the time she can't even stay current on her rentApr 19 18:22
DaemonFCshe's never had a job where she's made a fortune, but her last one was like $12.50 an hour, and you should be able to at least live on thatApr 19 18:22
DaemonFCyou can't when you smoke half of it and drink the other half and someone is always chasing you around trying to get paidApr 19 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux !Mint 13 Will Be Named Maya http://ping.fm/qtjfaApr 19 18:23
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DaemonFCshe went to go finance a car, and the only place that would talk to her was one of those bad credit places where you have to pay every week and if you don't, there's this engine lockout that won't let you start your carApr 19 18:23
DaemonFCthose places take in cars that are 5-10 years old, they charge so much interest on them that you've paid for the car 5 times over by the time you're doneApr 19 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple out to patent curved glass panels http://ping.fm/gDouAApr 19 18:24
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DaemonFCand they probably have mechanical problems before you even take possession of itApr 19 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] {VIDEO} So what really happens at the Enterprise End User Summit? Vinod Kutty from @CMEGroup gives us a look: http://bit.ly/HWyCft #lfeeusApr 19 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Consumer Financial Protection Bureau on open source and "growing the pie" http://ur1.ca/91gx2 #egov #opensourceApr 19 18:26
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I figure within another week, they'll come for her carApr 19 18:26
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DaemonFCwithin another 2-3 weeks, the landlord will probably start the eviction processApr 19 18:26
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DaemonFCand within another 8 weeks, she'll be in prisonApr 19 18:27
DaemonFCI don't know why she bothered bailing herself outApr 19 18:27
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DaemonFCthey don't count days where you weren't in jail as time served so now she gets to sit around and wait for it as all her stuff is being repossessed then figure out someplace to live for a monthApr 19 18:28
DaemonFCand then she gets like 85 days of her sentence in prison that she could have spent in county jail insteadApr 19 18:28
DaemonFCwell, we know she doesn't make good choicesApr 19 18:28
DaemonFCshe's probably driving around right now with no license. I don't know that because I try not to pay attention to her, but it's kind of hard to not hear someone that's shouting on the other side of a wallApr 19 18:29
DaemonFC:)Apr 19 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why does #redhat let Microsoft employees spew out their propaganda in a Red Hat site? http://ur1.ca/91gxj foolish thingApr 19 18:29
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DaemonFCschestowitz, 451 Research is Microsoft PRApr 19 18:30
DaemonFCthey were the ones that said Microsoft is the world's leading supporter of enterprise Linux a while back :)Apr 19 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @silner Linux !Mint 13 Will Be Named Maya http://ping.fm/qtjfaApr 19 18:31
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DaemonFCLinux Mint is going to BingApr 19 18:33
DaemonFCby way of YahooApr 19 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It pays to embezzle the public http://ur1.ca/91gyl# like Madoff, but Too Big To JailApr 19 18:34
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formic_schestowitz - this snit fool did get pwnedApr 19 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Is vendor lock-in costing Helsinki 3.4 million Euros per year? http://goo.gl/4FQgHApr 19 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 12 Ways #LibreOffice Writer Tops MS #Word http://goo.gl/HHK9PApr 19 18:39
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MinceRi pity da foolApr 19 18:40
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/92885704Apr 19 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Thursday, 19-Apr-12 17:22:55 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz pretty bizarre 0-sum reasoning there, since SaaS *may* work, a software licensing/support model will automatically fail?Apr 19 18:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1533020Apr 19 18:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Modest proposal to Canonical:  #Ubuntu could legally fork linux and just remove some branding, then call it the "Ubunu kernel". PR problem solved. ;-)Apr 19 18:46
schestowitz"Yeah, the "Gnu / " brigade can get pretty nutty at times, even if I agree with much of what RMS says. Plumbing fixation is weird like that."Apr 19 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cairo-Dock 3.0 has been released http://ur1.ca/91h3d #linux #gnuApr 19 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #CISPA Has NOT Been Fixed; It Could Allow The Gov't To Effectively Monitor Private Networks http://goo.gl/ZJSkeApr 19 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Catfish is nice. I never tried it before — the finder not the marine lifeformApr 19 18:48
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_Goblinschestowitz, RE: Ubuntu  and branding....I'm writing a rather long piece on the subject to coincide with my adoption on my main rigApr 19 18:48
schestowitz_Goblin: will you please find half an hour to record? Today is perfect for me... esp. nowApr 19 18:49
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schestowitzBTW, I can meet you in London next Thurs/FridayApr 19 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hands-on: getting work done with Google's new Aura interface for Chrome OS http://ur1.ca/91h6y a #linux with limitationsApr 19 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Why Every Company Should Adopt #Twitter's Internet Patent Agreement - http://rww.to/JgSoRc or something like it #swpatsApr 19 18:49
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schestowitzI might also be moving there with the missusApr 19 18:50
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iophkNot in OpenDocument Format:Apr 19 18:51
iophkhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1OjGHR07q0UNqkwYIplDOV9f_Xgw-S3Ma8H3iU2oYqVE/edit?pli=1Apr 19 18:51
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schestowitziophk: lots of MS turfing right nowApr 19 18:52
schestowitzwish I had more time to respond to itApr 19 18:52
schestowitzthere's also news about MS FlorianApr 19 18:52
iophkYes, he's active again / more.Apr 19 18:52
iophkNow also on Oracle's payroll.Apr 19 18:52
schestowitzCPTN/RANDersApr 19 18:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chakra GNU/Linux - Interview with the Development Team http://ur1.ca/91h7w #chakraApr 19 18:53
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schestowitzAlso pro-Apple, remember...Apr 19 18:53
schestowitzalwaysApr 19 18:53
schestowitzOINers are the ecnomy..../Apr 19 18:54
schestowitzIBM, Google, Red Hat... and he has been consistent on iktApr 19 18:54
schestowitzHe makes a lot of money by attacking in piblic all FOSS, spamming journos while calling himself FOSSsoemthingApr 19 18:54
schestowitzhttp://fedoraproject.org/get-prereleaseApr 19 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Major loss for #jupitermedia (which I worked for) http://ur1.ca/91h9oApr 19 18:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thankfully, PJ is back to #groklaw & blogging on a frequent basis, just like years ago (anti-FUD is back).Apr 19 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The old press might be dying, but the problem is that blogs that sometimes rise are *paid* propaganda, e.g. Florian for MS/OracleApr 19 19:01
iophkThe journals fall for his spam.  He gets quoted more than his say-for-pay model ought to be.Apr 19 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In Asay's latest article, he reveals that Microsoft's paid PR agents (former 'journalists') are pressuring him to spout out their nonsense.Apr 19 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In other news, Florian finally reveals he's a digital whore (astroturf) that spams journalists and pretends to speak for FOSS'something'.Apr 19 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MATE 1.2 Desktop Environment Released http://ur1.ca/91hca #mate #gnomeApr 19 19:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE Announcement http://ur1.ca/91hd1 #bsd #unixApr 19 19:09
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XFaCEschestowitz: if only he would do that outrightApr 19 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cannot blog much this week due to hectic work schedule. Some people - unlike paid lobbyists (e.g. http://ur1.ca/4xanc ) - need to work.Apr 19 19:11
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Diablo-D3he heApr 19 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Still owe @mcepl two emails.Apr 19 19:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Verdict on @jiew's charges will be pivotal for Thailand's future in holding Internet intermediaries liable for content https://eff.org/r.2YnApr 19 19:14
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iophkThe big red flag there is Mueller's .NOT promotionApr 19 19:16
schestowitzhe programs in it, I was told by his former mateApr 19 19:17
schestowitzI don't think he codes anymoeApr 19 19:17
schestowitzhe found money in lobbyingApr 19 19:17
iophkNo but the stigma remains.Apr 19 19:17
schestowitz"mobbying"Apr 19 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 17 Beta GNOME Live CD Screenshot Tour http://ur1.ca/91he9 #redhatApr 19 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MATE 1.2 release truly forks from GNOME http://ur1.ca/91heo #mate #gnomeApr 19 19:18
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_GoblinInteresting article on your site Roy : http://techrights.org/2012/04/18/war-on-freesw/Apr 19 19:18
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_Goblinhowever, I do wonder why Usenet would be the target...they hardly get to the mainstream user....Apr 19 19:19
_GoblinI often think the Microsoft advocates in Usenet are those with small business dependant on the MS monopoly.......Apr 19 19:20
XFaCE_Goblin: Ask formic_Apr 19 19:20
_Goblinthey are scared of loss of their earning by people switching away and target advocates because they are the ones helping remove their business.Apr 19 19:20
_Goblinyeah I saw it was one of his articles...Apr 19 19:21
_Goblin"Microsoft really is evil"Apr 19 19:21
_GoblinnoApr 19 19:21
_GoblinMicrosoft is a sum of its parts.....Apr 19 19:21
_Goblin"evil" would stem from employee's...if such exists.....Apr 19 19:22
MinceR...all of which are evilApr 19 19:22
iophkhttp://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/04/samsung-targets-apple-in-the-us-with-8-more-patents.ars?clicked=related_rightApr 19 19:23
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_GoblinI'd say not, I'd say many tow the company line, but then I suppose if its their livelyhood and their mortage they have to pay then you can't blame them.Apr 19 19:23
formic_thanks _GoblinApr 19 19:23
MinceRyes i canApr 19 19:23
MinceRsince they affect my livelihood negativelyApr 19 19:23
_Goblinyep but then reverse the shoe.Apr 19 19:23
MinceRthey knew what they were intoApr 19 19:23
MinceRdo not blame the victims, blame the evildoersApr 19 19:24
MinceRthey willingly serve microsoftApr 19 19:24
_Goblinif you were paying a mortage with monies from MS......a conscience is great, but surely you'd put family over that.Apr 19 19:24
MinceRi'd look for another job if i was foolish enough to deal with m$Apr 19 19:24
_Goblinthats not condoning the behaviour, its merely offering explanation.Apr 19 19:24
MinceRthen again, judging by m$ products, they're all incompetent, so nobody would hire themApr 19 19:24
MinceRbut that's their problemApr 19 19:25
_GoblinMinceR, I would expect though that its the same as many......there's little in the way of work...if you have something stable, why risk it?Apr 19 19:25
MinceRbecause they're harming almost everyone in the free world?Apr 19 19:25
_GoblinI do believe though that many of the Microsoft trolls are actually small businesses trying their best to save Microsoft since they grab a living from it.Apr 19 19:26
MinceRto save m$, and by doing so, doom ITApr 19 19:26
_GoblinMinceR, and harm is a relative thing.......we are, after all talking software here.....Apr 19 19:26
schestowitziophk: I saw that earlierApr 19 19:26
schestowitzthistle posted itApr 19 19:26
MinceRyes, software that controls many thingsApr 19 19:26
iophkOkApr 19 19:26
MinceRsoftware that many people deal with dailyApr 19 19:27
schestowitz_Goblin: any chance of recording. I need to know..Apr 19 19:27
MinceRi have to remind you that some car makers are foolish enough to run m$ softwareApr 19 19:27
_Gobliner....you'll have to hang fire there....Apr 19 19:27
MinceRturning their cars into death traps, if they weren't alreadyApr 19 19:27
_Goblinnot sure about tonightApr 19 19:27
_GoblinMincer, you'll have to enlighten me there......Apr 19 19:27
MinceR?Apr 19 19:28
_Goblincars and deathtraps?Apr 19 19:28
_Goblinnot familiar.....Apr 19 19:28
MinceRsome of those systems can keep the driver from perceiving what's going on outside the carApr 19 19:28
_Goblinah...Apr 19 19:28
_Goblinright....Apr 19 19:28
_GoblinI'll stop you there....Apr 19 19:28
MinceRit would be better if you stopped themApr 19 19:29
_GoblinI am sure Roy will confirm that as part of my job I drive very high performance cars and very high speeds...Apr 19 19:29
_Goblinits not tech that kills....Apr 19 19:29
_Goblinits bad driving, failing to anticipate or just incompetance...Apr 19 19:29
_Goblinif people are stupid enough to trust systems to "help" their driving, they should not be on the roadApr 19 19:29
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MinceRso, a driver who can't see because the windshield washer is continually spraying the windshield due to a software bug would still drive well?Apr 19 19:30
_Goblinbut then I asked for an example,... I am unfamiliar with that.Apr 19 19:30
MinceRor a driver who gets some random noise from the sound system at max volume due to a software bug would still be fully attentive?Apr 19 19:30
_Goblinand yes though....window failure...stop car.Apr 19 19:30
MinceRit hasn't happened... _yet_Apr 19 19:30
DaemonFCor the GPS that tells you to turn the wrong way onto a one way streetApr 19 19:30
DaemonFChappensApr 19 19:30
_GoblinMinceR, hasn't happened yet?Apr 19 19:30
MinceRnot yet, as far as i knowApr 19 19:31
DaemonFCpeople do basically anything they're toldApr 19 19:31
_GoblinMinceR, then I'm sorry I can't see your point...Apr 19 19:31
MinceRyou're right, let's wait until a couple of people die from thisApr 19 19:31
MinceRlet's hope it won't be us, thoughApr 19 19:31
_Goblinwhilst I am sure a MS car could be fraught with issues (Ive joked about them before) I won't play what if...Apr 19 19:31
_Goblinand in addition, Ive yet to see a vehicle with a software controlled windows washing system.Apr 19 19:31
_Goblinthe nearest to that would be I suppose....Apr 19 19:32
_Goblinthe Rav-4.Apr 19 19:32
MinceRiirc they wrote somewhere that the same computer would also get to control thatApr 19 19:32
_Goblinthat has rain sensors.....Apr 19 19:32
MinceRbut the RAV4 doesn't run winblows, does it?Apr 19 19:32
_Goblinhowever its running a Linux based system unless I'm mistakenApr 19 19:32
MinceRafaik Toyota only uses winblows in their support system, so only that is going to be unreliableApr 19 19:32
MinceRnot the cars themselvesApr 19 19:32
_Goblinah... If Toyota is running Windows.....Apr 19 19:33
formic_14:29 <@MinceR> it hasn't happened... _yet_Apr 19 19:33
_Goblinthen the windows washer scenario doesn't apply then.Apr 19 19:33
formic_what about a BSOD on those augmented reality windshieldsApr 19 19:33
_Goblinthere's been no known issues...Apr 19 19:33
MinceRwould be funApr 19 19:33
_Goblintoyota I believe had one issue of late and that was the clutch on some models....nothing though to do with software....Apr 19 19:34
MinceRi didn't bring toyota up, thoughApr 19 19:34
_GoblinI'd say the danger in driving faults will come more from a physical problem of bad manufacturing rather than software......Apr 19 19:34
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DaemonFC_Goblin, I think MinceR's point was that bad software makes a dangerous thing even more dangerousApr 19 19:36
MinceRindeedApr 19 19:36
_GoblinDaemonFC, but based on an issue that hasn't happened yet....Apr 19 19:36
MinceRanother example: let's say they run winblows on computers used in healthcareApr 19 19:37
DaemonFCit willApr 19 19:37
_Goblinwhy not say its dangerous to have anything controlled by any CPU, incase of human coding error that risks lifeApr 19 19:37
formic_http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/04/18/pilot-fatigue-finding-raises-questions-about-canadian-air-regulations/Apr 19 19:37
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MinceRsoftware bugs wear the doctor down, then he starts making mistakes that cost livesApr 19 19:37
formic_I bet the pilot's alarm didn't work because the windows software on the plane rebooted for updatesApr 19 19:37
_Goblinfine example.....Apr 19 19:37
_Goblinexcept that I thought we were talking cars....Apr 19 19:37
MinceRand then you aren't even running winblows on say an artificial lungApr 19 19:38
DaemonFCI'm going to do my best to never own a car that has all that crap in itApr 19 19:38
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MinceRwe were talking about crap software putting lives in dangerApr 19 19:38
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_GoblinI think thats probably for the best DaemonFC Apr 19 19:38
MinceR(potentially or truly)Apr 19 19:38
DaemonFCI trust my driving more than I would ever trust a computer to drive my carApr 19 19:39
_GoblinOh Im sorry..... I thought "<MinceR> turning their cars into death traps, if they weren't already" was the start of the conversationApr 19 19:39
MinceRand that not only the lives and comfort of those on m$ payroll should be consideredApr 19 19:39
MinceR_Goblin: it was an exampleApr 19 19:39
_GoblinDaemonFC, and thats the best way to be.Apr 19 19:39
MinceRto illustrate that it is not a weightless topicApr 19 19:39
DaemonFCMinceR, What do you think the "acceptable casualties" are as relates to software bugs in self-driving cars?Apr 19 19:39
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_GoblinDaemonFC, and self driving cars...never happenApr 19 19:40
MinceRDaemonFC: depends on whose perspective, i guess :>Apr 19 19:40
MinceRthere already are experiments with self-driving carsApr 19 19:40
MinceRafaik thankfully m$ isn't involvedApr 19 19:40
DaemonFCgive it 20-30 yearsApr 19 19:40
_Goblinthey can experiment, it cant happen.... Diablo-D3 tried this one...Apr 19 19:40
DaemonFCand everyone will have oneApr 19 19:40
MinceRwhat has Diablo-D3 got to do with this?Apr 19 19:40
_Goblinhe had a debate with me on the subject a while back.Apr 19 19:41
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_Goblinok, you perform and emergency manuver because a child runs out in front of the car.....your car has an impact location of two choices, a bus stop with people waiting in it or a parked car with potentially people on board..... how on earth does an automated system make a decision?Apr 19 19:42
_Goblinthat  was the crux of the debate before...Apr 19 19:42
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DaemonFClet the car decide, then it's nobody's fault because Microsoft will be shielded from liability and you weren't drivingApr 19 19:43
DaemonFCeasyApr 19 19:43
MinceRwhat if it makes the decision randomly or doesn't even have programming to choose an impact location? many drivers probably aren't trained to do so eitherApr 19 19:43
_Goblinthere are too many variables and often the need for a "human" decision for automated cars to ever come a reality.Apr 19 19:43
MinceRin any case, they could eventually have a human-level (or better) AIApr 19 19:43
_Goblinthe bus stop example is where the driver chooses the least damaging point of impact....like the pilot who ditches a plane in a field.Apr 19 19:44
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formic__Goblin - Check out Google, they have remote/ai controlled cars that do google mapsApr 19 19:45
_Goblinthat person standing on the edge of the road, are they about to run accross? Do you slow down?? A human would be looking at facial expressions, stance etc, how could you compensate in a automated vehicle#Apr 19 19:45
formic_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_driverless_carApr 19 19:45
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_Goblinformic_, we are talking consumer level self drive cars.Apr 19 19:45
MinceRyou could process facial expressions and stanceApr 19 19:45
formic_Google plans to have this stuff out for consumersApr 19 19:45
formic_then they can track where you drive :)Apr 19 19:46
MinceRalso, they could initially restrict it to closed roads with no pedestrians having accessApr 19 19:46
_Goblinnah......because even if you get past the technology barrier...in the uk anyway, you would have to re-write most of the road traffic act to compensate.Apr 19 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Latest Ubuntu version will be ready.. on 26 April http://ur1.ca/91hk9 thankfully I'm down in London that day, away from the NEW^H^H^HOISEApr 19 19:46
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MinceRis that a problem of comparable scale?Apr 19 19:46
_Goblinoh yes...Apr 19 19:47
_Goblinvery much so...Apr 19 19:47
_Goblinimagine the infrastructure changes (in the UK)....Apr 19 19:47
_Goblinred routes, signals, rts'sApr 19 19:47
_Goblinthen you have the law itself....Apr 19 19:47
MinceRwell, then maybe there won't be self-driving cars in the UK, only on the rest of the planetApr 19 19:47
_Goblinbut you still have the technology barrier to get past.... I don't think there are many people who have actually sat and comtemplated their thought processes whilst they drive....Apr 19 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP to certify #Ubuntu 12.04 LTS for its Proliant servers http://ur1.ca/91hcc what about #Debian - no brand?Apr 19 19:48
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MinceRfMRI to the rescue ;)Apr 19 19:48
_Goblinexperience, gut feels, instinct...show me any system that can emulate these and I'll grant you a self driving carApr 19 19:48
formic__Goblin - Google lobbied Nevada to allow driverless carsApr 19 19:48
formic_cali made the same argument about the existing traffic lawsApr 19 19:49
_Goblindedicated freeways separate from standard traffic maybe....Apr 19 19:49
schestowitzsometimes I'd trust a computer more than a personApr 19 19:49
_Goblinbut even on the freeway, the ever changing variables that most drivers are not aware of and perform instinctively are staggering.Apr 19 19:49
schestowitzand no "women driver" jokes please :-)Apr 19 19:49
formic_I'd trust a computer to drive a car over a personApr 19 19:49
MinceRexperience can be emulated by neural nets and knowledge-based systems/machine learningApr 19 19:49
schestowitzpeople texting on the road, on phone, getting BJs..Apr 19 19:49
MinceRgut feels are overratedApr 19 19:49
MinceRinstinct doesn't apply to drivingApr 19 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What took 10,000 years to Build and only 50 years to Destroy? - http://bit.ly/I9I2m7 great and worrying analysis #resilience #foodApr 19 19:49
_GoblinMinceR, and now the tech is branching into Skynet...all for an automated car.Apr 19 19:49
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schestowitzComputers don't have those limitations... and with Linux they don't fall asleep on the wheel eitherApr 19 19:50
MinceR(people have no inborn driving ability)Apr 19 19:50
_GoblinMinceR, no but they are humanApr 19 19:50
MinceRdoesn't sound like an advantageApr 19 19:50
MinceRand no, neural nets, KBS-es and machine learning are not skynetApr 19 19:51
MinceRthey're simply AIApr 19 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] noting a lack of "Sun royal editor arrested" story on the #Sun's own site, not surprised, they don't put a priority on actual newsApr 19 19:51
_GoblinMinceR, so you have never responded to an incident on the road merely on instint? like the chap who is indicating left that you know will turn right just by the way he's looking?Apr 19 19:51
_Goblinor the nervous looking driver that you know will slam the brakes on at the smallest thing.Apr 19 19:52
MinceRi'm not sure if that was instinctApr 19 19:52
_Goblingut feeling then....Apr 19 19:52
_Goblinbut whatever it is, how can AI compensate for that?Apr 19 19:52
_Goblinthis is what I mean about variables....too manyApr 19 19:53
MinceRby learning how to interpret human metacommunication; by replacing human drivers and eliminating such sources of dangerApr 19 19:53
_Goblinbut this is the thing....you can remove all human drivers (and how long would that take) but what about the unpredicatble pedestrians?Apr 19 19:53
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_Goblinwhat about ever changing (and often bizzare) effects of climate....Apr 19 19:53
MinceRteach the AI to predict their behavior as well as possibleApr 19 19:54
MinceRthey could probably handle climate effects better than humansApr 19 19:54
TakinOverWith humans, you at least have the ability to respond to unexpected and unpredictable events.Apr 19 19:54
MinceRsame with an advanced AIApr 19 19:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1535765\Apr 19 19:54
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MinceRdon't imagine it as a huge switch statement :>Apr 19 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Thursday http://ur1.ca/91hllApr 19 19:54
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schestowitz"I love Simon's Cat. :-) "Apr 19 19:54
_Goblinand there's your problem...you as a driver (I'm sure quite experienced) will be looking out for certain behaviours on the street, you will drive in response to those.....what sort of AI are we talking about here? all for an automated car.Apr 19 19:54
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MinceR"all for an automated car" -- remember, they've been targeting stuff like language with AIs, that isn't easy eitherApr 19 19:55
MinceRyet it didn't scare people away from tryingApr 19 19:55
_Goblinso once you get past the tech barrier....you've still got the logistical issue of replacing everyones cars and (in the case of the UK) massive ammendments to traffic law.Apr 19 19:55
MinceRas far as i can tell, traffic laws should be changed anywayApr 19 19:56
MinceRat least in hungaryApr 19 19:56
TakinOverIt isn't that I don't want them to create an automated car, it is just that I don't want one loose on the cities I drive in.Apr 19 19:56
_GoblinI can think of far better uses for that level of AIApr 19 19:56
MinceRuses of AI tech are not mutually exclusiveApr 19 19:56
_Goblinthe tech singularity is one topic I've read recently....the level of AI you describe would seem ideal for that theoryApr 19 19:56
MinceRTakinOver: do you want cars driven by people loose on them? :>Apr 19 19:56
_GoblinMinceR, what you think if Ford made such an AI system it would share it with the world?Apr 19 19:57
_GoblinGPL its HAL so to speak?Apr 19 19:57
MinceRwould it have to?Apr 19 19:57
MinceRalso, do you really expect Ford to succeed at this, of all companies? :>Apr 19 19:57
_Goblinyou don't think one company who develop then seek to have the monopoly?Apr 19 19:57
_GoblinFord was merely the first name off the top of my headApr 19 19:57
MinceRgoogle's effort is not backed by one single car maker eitherApr 19 19:57
_Goblinthats if Google managed to ever develop this Skynet Car AIApr 19 19:58
TakinOverI do a lot of walking. A lot of "traffic safety" is meeting the other person's gaze and deciding how he/she is going to respond. Simply not possible with a machine.Apr 19 19:58
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_GoblinTakinOver, exactly.Apr 19 19:58
_Goblinhuman instinct is not something you can code.Apr 19 19:58
_Goblinno matter how complex your AI algorithm.Apr 19 19:58
MinceRdoesn't even have to be complexApr 19 19:59
_Goblin? really?Apr 19 19:59
MinceRneural networks aren't driven by complex algorithms :>Apr 19 19:59
_Goblinbut I think we can strike off a self aware AI system for the time beingApr 19 19:59
MinceRdon't say that too loud around a self-aware AI ;)Apr 19 19:59
_Goblinor certainly one with the ability to have human driving instincts.Apr 19 19:59
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_Goblin:)Apr 19 20:00
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MinceRalso, not all of this development has to happen specifically so that we can build self-driving carsApr 19 20:05
MinceRthere are other applications of AI as wellApr 19 20:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am sure +Peter Lemenkov is happy to hear about this ... http://ur1.ca/91hpoApr 19 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Last run for #Mageia 2: test beta 3! http://ur1.ca/917er #mandriva #gnu #linuxApr 19 20:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Marek Goldmann - Google+ - Small recap after yesterday's #Fedora #JBoss AS test day. .::. Size~: 122.72 KBApr 19 20:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Last run for Mageia 2: test beta 3! | Mageia Blog (English) .::. Size~: 56.03 KBApr 19 20:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Excellent! - A phone and a PC in one! http://is.gd/yjlpI3Apr 19 20:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubuntu for Android | Ubuntu .::. Size~: 48.27 KBApr 19 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secondhand Smoke and Lung Cancer http://ur1.ca/91hs0 new video from a favourite channelApr 19 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | A New Addition To The Site http://goo.gl/zmVwl #fb #WallpapersApr 19 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #RaspberryPi pre-orders hit 350,000 - http://bit.ly/HWP53b not badApr 19 20:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Secondhand Smoke and Lung Cancer       - YouTube .::. Size~: 137.56 KBApr 19 20:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A New Addition To The Site | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 22.16 KBApr 19 20:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi pre-orders hit 350,000 - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 64.1 KBApr 19 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An Interview with Millenium Technology Prize Finalist #Linus Torvalds - http://tcrn.ch/HLlmH4 some unusual answers; worth readingApr 19 20:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Interview with Millenium Technology Prize Finalist Linus Torvalds | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 84.68 KBApr 19 20:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Amazon cloud set stage for fast Pinterest growth (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/JovveSApr 19 20:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Amazon cloud set stage for fast Pinterest growth - Computerworld .::. Size~: 134.91 KBApr 19 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hacking the Non-Disposable Planet - http://bit.ly/IByYEP deep stuff. probably (v @boingboing)Apr 19 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] was #Popeye funded by spinach farmers as propaganda to drum up sales & get kids hooked on the green stuff? #conspiracytheories lolApr 19 20:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hacking the Non-Disposable Planet .::. Size~: 71.99 KBApr 19 20:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google gives Apache a SPDY boost (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/HW5LJaApr 19 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google gives Apache a SPDY boost - Computerworld .::. Size~: 136.03 KBApr 19 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Tutorial: Install Adminer on your server or download the WordPress plugin. Either way, it's a simple database manager. http://bit.ly/HWyQmPApr 19 20:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Manage Your Database with Adminer | Linux.com .::. Size~: 41.61 KBApr 19 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I always wondered why #Barrs got away with advertising #IrnBru as "Made in Scotland with girders" Scotland yes, but girders? WTF?Apr 19 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] because of that advert, I developed a habit of licking random metal objects to see if they tasted remotely like #IrnBru lolApr 19 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I learnt to avoid metal areas below a few feet from the ground; dogs on lamposts & all thatApr 19 20:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/193056123006369792?iid=am-114225476113348631415542958&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208Apr 19 20:44
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: Prior experience dictates, @schestowitz, that any hardware that is "certified" for #Ubuntu, its daddy #Debian stable will run better on it☻Apr 19 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/4/2012: Linux 3.4 RC3, GNOME Shell 3.4.1, Fedora 17 Almost Done http://ur1.ca/91hwi #techrightsApr 19 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh boy, Cringely gives IBM the tough treatment. http://ur1.ca/91hx3Apr 19 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 19/4/2012: Linux 3.4 RC3, GNOME Shell 3.4.1, Fedora 17 Almost Done | Techrights .::. Size~: 134 KBApr 19 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: I, Cringely  » Blog Archive  Something's rotten in IBM Dubuque - Cringely on technology .::. Size~: 212.86 KBApr 19 20:46
DaemonFCall the best coupons are for stuff that costs way too much in the first placeApr 19 20:50
DaemonFCwhat is it with this "coupon shows"?Apr 19 20:51
DaemonFC"Save $1" and it turns out to be $2 more expensive than the store brand, so you actually still pay $1 moreApr 19 20:51
MinceRsave $1...for usApr 19 20:52
DaemonFCMinceR, I get looks when I buy household supplies and personal items to last the entire year, all at onceApr 19 20:53
prurigroschestowitz, blogs.computerworlduk.com/simon-says/2012/04/why-microsofts-new-open-source-division/index.htmApr 19 20:54
DaemonFCI have the dollar store send me out like a dozen of each thing at once then I go to pick up my order at the local store. They're never out of what I want and I only have to go there once the entire year.Apr 19 20:54
DaemonFCI noticed that they like to be out of something popular at any given time so you have to come back laterApr 19 20:56
DaemonFCnot sure if that's intentional or just bad timing on my partApr 19 20:56
schestowitzprurigro: I linked to this a long time agoApr 19 20:59
formic_http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/04/13/supreme-court-wire-tapping.htmlApr 19 20:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supreme Court tells Parliament to rewrite wiretap law - Canada - CBC News .::. Size~: 48.55 KBApr 19 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Just like "Real Steel"Apr 19 20:59
formic_haha pigsApr 19 21:00
formic_(police)Apr 19 21:00
formic_14:58 <@MinceR> don't say that too loud around a self-aware AI ;)Apr 19 21:01
formic_you mean like Google?Apr 19 21:01
formic_!google techrights irc logsApr 19 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - IRC Logs | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/irc-logs/Apr 19 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - IRC Proceedings: April 6th, 2012 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2012/04/07/irc-log-06042012/Apr 19 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: March 29th, 2012 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/irc-log-techrights-29032012.htmlApr 19 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Techrights' IRC (@boycottnovell) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/%23!/boycottnovellApr 19 21:01
MinceR:>Apr 19 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hi guys whats upApr 19 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You're just getting out of bed, aren't you?Apr 19 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Expect Mandatory 'Big Brother' Black Boxes In All New Cars From 2015 http://goo.gl/G8txI #PoliceState #LandOfTheFreeApr 19 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Expect Mandatory 'Big Brother' Black Boxes In All New Cars From 2015 - Slashdot .::. Size~: 255.71 KBApr 19 21:01
prurigroschestowitz, ahh did you? I caught it a could days ago and then took a couple days off- wasn't sure if you'd run into it too :)Apr 19 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @evan @zach not #C3PO in a heated argument with #R2D2 thenApr 19 21:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Congressional Reps Pushing #CISPA Cybersecurity Bill Don't Even Know How To Secure Their Own Websites http://goo.gl/d5l90Apr 19 21:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Congressional Reps Pushing CISPA Cybersecurity Bill Don't Even Know How To Secure Their Own Websites | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.21 KBApr 19 21:03
formic_prurigro - I love that part about 'firewalling open source licensing'Apr 19 21:04
formic_create a seperate entity so that microsoft doesn't have to license its patentsApr 19 21:04
formic_looks like we need a gplv4 that addresses proxyingApr 19 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gemini outs trio of budget Android 4 tablets http://ur1.ca/91i0t #android #linuxApr 19 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] no ur grammar is slipping lolApr 19 21:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gemini outs trio of budget Android 4 tablets • reghardware .::. Size~: 21.52 KBApr 19 21:04
prurigroall conjecture at this point it would seem on that note, but it does seem like a reasonable explanationApr 19 21:05
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formic_well basicly they are using a man in the middle attack on open source licensing of patentsApr 19 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is grmpyoldman from identi.ca with 80 dents!Apr 19 21:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Verizon interested in Windows Phone as its 'third ecosystem' http://goo.gl/DsdG4 typo? #turd #WP7Apr 19 21:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Verizon interested in Windows Phone as its 'third ecosystem' | The Verge .::. Size~: 83.11 KBApr 19 21:06
formic_if subsidiary X contributes code on behalf of microshaft, then microshafts patents don't get includedApr 19 21:07
formic_thats fucking evilApr 19 21:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "Boot 2 Face 4 Ever"Apr 19 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Anyway I'm glad to see you.Apr 19 21:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RaspberryPi pre-orders hit 350,000 http://ur1.ca/91i1s #linuxApr 19 21:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Raspberry Pi pre-orders hit 350,000 - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 64.1 KBApr 19 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think we've proven conclusively that there's not another combination of letters that makes a worse name than "Boot to Gecko".Apr 19 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I know, but you're more fun over here.Apr 19 21:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Barely, even. It's a literal description of what the OS does from a software library point of view.Apr 19 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] HealthCheck #Fedora - Where's the beef? - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/D1O1g #gnulinuxApr 19 21:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: HealthCheck Fedora - Where's the beef? - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 45.95 KBApr 19 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linus #Torvalds now a Millenium Technology Prize laureate - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/4K50X #linux #flossApr 19 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah that one freaked me out. We should make the photo-posting easier here.Apr 19 21:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linus Torvalds now a Millenium Technology Prize laureate - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.54 KBApr 19 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Iconic. http://ur1.ca/91i4cApr 19 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, but think of all the "Stayin' Alive" jokes you could do.Apr 19 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FreeBSD 8.3 introduces new features - The H Open Source: News and Features http://goo.gl/vPBWO #flossApr 19 21:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gary Whitta - Google+ - Here's +Barack Obama sitting on the Rosa Parks bus. The… .::. Size~: 459.19 KBApr 19 21:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FreeBSD 8.3 introduces new features - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.28 KBApr 19 21:26
DaemonFChttp://notalwaysright.com/likely-not-a-fan-of-spell-checking/8474/print/Apr 19 21:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Funny & Stupid Customer Stories – Not Always Right  » Likely Not A Fan Of Spell Checking » Print .::. Size~: 2.89 KBApr 19 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Sincerely Causes has launched a campaign against #CISPA. Click here to send physical postcards to Congress - free! https://eff.org/r.Y8qApr 19 21:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sincerely Causes .::. Size~: 5.68 KBApr 19 21:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yeah, I think we should just have "picture" or "photo" as one of the button things along with "Status", "Bookmark" and so on.Apr 19 21:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Secret metadata is a risk to #privacy http://ur1.ca/91i7bApr 19 21:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breasts lead to arrest of Anonymous hacker | Technically Incorrect - CNET News .::. Size~: 81.97 KBApr 19 21:35
formic_http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/04/19/1357207/florian-mueller-outs-himself-as-oracle-employee?utm_source=rss1.0moreanon&utm_medium=feedApr 19 21:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Florian Mueller Outs Himself As Oracle Employee - Slashdot .::. Size~: 272.53 KBApr 19 21:42
formic_Florian works for SCOracleApr 19 21:42
prurigrofreakin' bigOApr 19 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] You guys should start making a robot for next year. Maybe a palooka robot that bleeds and screams and catches on fire when it gets attacked.Apr 19 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Piratas vão criar Partido Europeu e programa comum http://goo.gl/U9nB7 #pppApr 19 21:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TeK > Notícias > Internet > Piratas vão criar Partido Europeu e programa comum .::. Size~: 46.18 KBApr 19 21:48
DaemonFChttp://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2012/apr/17/gsa-emails-recount-inside-story-exploding-toilets/Apr 19 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GSA emails recount inside story of exploding toilets  | Muckrock .::. Size~: 20.35 KBApr 19 21:49
DaemonFC"I am scared to pee.."Apr 19 21:49
DaemonFCIt's OK son. We're all scared.Apr 19 21:49
DaemonFCB-)Apr 19 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @brunomiguel O Cantinho da Programação: Lojas Portuguesas Acusadas de Boicote ao Linux http://omundodaprogramacao.com/?p=5060Apr 19 21:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: O.Cantinho.da.Programação  » Blog Archive  Lojas Portuguesas Acusadas de Boicote ao Linux - O.Cantinho.da.Programação .::. Size~: 31.54 KBApr 19 21:50
schestowitz_Goblin: any time to record?Apr 19 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey, I have a question. Does the StatusNet Mobile code in Git work?Apr 19 21:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Bugtraq: Vulnerabilities in Samsung TV (remote controller protocol) http://ow.ly/aoAGDApr 19 21:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bugtraq: Vulnerabilities in Samsung TV (remote controller protocol) .::. Size~: 20.97 KBApr 19 21:51
formic_schestowitz - you should talk about Florian "SCOracle" MullerApr 19 21:52
schestowitzi don't have time yetApr 19 21:52
schestowitzif we do the show though...Apr 19 21:52
DaemonFChttp://slashdot.org/submission/2030753/murderous-psychopaths-play-games?utm_source=rss1.0&utm_medium=feed&sbsrc=firehoseApr 19 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Murderous Psychopaths Play Games - Slashdot .::. Size~: 44.77 KBApr 19 21:54
DaemonFCHopefully this doesn't get approvedApr 19 21:54
DaemonFCthis is one of those things that's becoming as much of a cliche as using the word Hitler over everything you disagree withApr 19 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, hey! New Titanium. http://identi.ca/url/69044908Apr 19 21:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Appcelerator Titanium 2.0 Launch | Appcelerator .::. Size~: 21.91 KBApr 19 21:55
DaemonFCI'm sure murderous psychopaths eat cornflakesApr 19 21:55
DaemonFCmaybe a few of them have watched The View a time or twoApr 19 21:55
schestowitzthey all sucked their mom's breastsApr 19 21:55
schestowitzperverts!Apr 19 21:56
schestowitzThe insanity starts early... as a babyApr 19 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Motorola’s LapDock: The next Google ChromeBook? http://ur1.ca/91ib9 #linux in devicesApr 19 21:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This architect deserves a special award. So cool. http://ur1.ca/91ibsApr 19 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Motorola’s LapDock: The next Google ChromeBook? — Mobile Technology News .::. Size~: 86.77 KBApr 19 21:56
DaemonFCwhy do we have to suffer through this forever?Apr 19 21:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IGN - Google+ - OK, Parkland High in Allentown, PA completely wins. [via… .::. Size~: 155.79 KBApr 19 21:56
MinceRlittle-known fact: murderous psychopaths are so addicted to dihydrogen monoxide, they can not live without itApr 19 21:57
DaemonFCit's probably the thing the liberal leftists and the fundamentalist theocrats agree on the mostApr 19 21:57
schestowitzIf they like violant games so much, then they can get off on paintballApr 19 21:57
MinceRlittle-known fact: Hitler is a well-known DHMO consumerApr 19 21:57
schestowitz*ViolentApr 19 21:57
schestowitzMinceR: ban it and get rid of murder overnightApr 19 21:57
MinceRHitler also breathed oxygen. i propose we ban oxygen.Apr 19 21:57
MinceRindeedApr 19 21:57
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DaemonFChe also enjoyed long walks, natureApr 19 21:59
DaemonFC:)Apr 19 21:59
MinceRbad news for nature!Apr 19 22:00
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DaemonFChe was an animal rights activistApr 19 22:00
MinceRthat reminds meApr 19 22:00
MinceRalmost all murderous psychopaths have legsApr 19 22:01
MinceRi think you know what this meansApr 19 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan I think http://ur1.ca/8g8rl is an elaborate effort to #troll @bkuhnApr 19 22:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Enterprise Betting big on #Linux http://ur1.ca/91id1Apr 19 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: evanp/activityspam · GitHub .::. Size~: 40.32 KBApr 19 22:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Enterprise users and IT decision makers, commercial product vendors,Linux support options,big technology choice in front of the enterprise user community .::. Size~: 38.18 KBApr 19 22:01
DaemonFCMinceR, That people without legs aren't much of a threat to you?Apr 19 22:01
DaemonFCI kind of figured thatApr 19 22:02
schestowitzwow http://www.theage.com.au/news/Breaking/Racism-row-forces-open-source-head-out/2005/03/09/1110316060643.htmlApr 19 22:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Racism row forces open source head out - Breaking - http://www.theage.com.au/technology/ .::. Size~: 28.71 KBApr 19 22:02
DaemonFCMinceR, You know your military is overfunded and looking for ways to spend the extra money when they start trying to develop the "gay bomb"Apr 19 22:03
DaemonFCsuch a device is apparently something you drop on the enemy and then they're too busy fucking to come out and fight youApr 19 22:04
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bombApr 19 22:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gay bomb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 57.97 KBApr 19 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The license, you mean?Apr 19 22:04
MinceRbecause apparently being gay means wanting to have sex all the time?Apr 19 22:06
DaemonFCthis is the same research laboratory that makes "Lightweight Portable Security" and then puts Flash and Adobe Reader in itApr 19 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...or using github?Apr 19 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How do you expect people to NOT turn to so-called piracy when you treat them (paying customers, mind you!) like this? ... http://b1t.it/blb6Apr 19 22:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - How do you expect people to NOT turn to so-called piracy… .::. Size~: 150.76 KBApr 19 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Morphlabs launches OpenStack-based cloud rack http://ur1.ca/91i9k /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungaiApr 19 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Chossudovsky: Syrian 'Opposition' is 'West-Controlled Proxy Paramilitary' - YouTube http://goo.gl/sUOsu #natoApr 19 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Morphlabs launches OpenStack-based cloud rack - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.22 KBApr 19 22:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chossudovsky: Syrian 'Opposition' is 'West-Controlled Proxy Paramilitary'       - YouTube .::. Size~: 110.32 KBApr 19 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] UNTIL NOWApr 19 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I just spent an hour verifying that Titanium is still an unusable piece of shit.Apr 19 22:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @evan well, the bright side is that you now know this to still be the case ;)Apr 19 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Fallacy of Bugging Out – Are You Prepared to Be a Refugee? | Before It's News http://goo.gl/nLKRy #preppersApr 19 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The iPod for retro games http://ur1.ca/91ifj runs #linuxApr 19 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Before It's News .::. Size~: 13.99 KBApr 19 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The iPod for retro games .::. Size~: 163.34 KBApr 19 22:16
schestowitzNw sites from IDG? http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/vulnerabilities/296761-oracle-patches-88-issues-in-mammoth-security-updateApr 19 22:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Oracle Patches 88 Issues in Mammoth Security Update .::. Size~: 100.09 KBApr 19 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan both of course. But seriously, looks very interesting.Apr 19 22:19
formic_The iPod for retro gamesApr 19 22:23
formic_made by an apple fanboyApr 19 22:23
formic_even has a retro software storeApr 19 22:23
formic_I guess hes never heard of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X_WizApr 19 22:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GP2X Wiz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 76.7 KBApr 19 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] "it is true I lead Canonical, I invest in Canonical and I believe that is the most efficient business model of software generally" huh?Apr 19 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Leave America Now - James Wesley Rawles | Gerald Celente Trends Blog http://goo.gl/j25Hh #preppersApr 19 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementations of Web IDL http://ow.ly/1iUv2zApr 19 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leave America Now - James Wesley Rawles | Gerald Celente Trends  Blog .::. Size~: 442.38 KBApr 19 22:25
MinceRwhy would he? it isn't a crApple product, so it doesn't existApr 19 22:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Thanks. First in a series of services I'm rolling out to make #fsw stuff easier. Spam is killer for public StatusNet sites.Apr 19 22:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Goodnight. That's all.Apr 19 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Are New Streaming Royalty Rates A Way To Backdoor #DRM Into Copyright Law? - http://bit.ly/IqL8Bc looks badApr 19 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are New Streaming Royalty Rates A Way To Backdoor DRM Into Copyright Law? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 51.24 KBApr 19 22:33
scientes<MinceR> why would he? it isn't a crApple product, so it doesn't existApr 19 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FBI amplify the US govt's #PoliceState aspirations by seizing remailler servers http://goo.gl/xkR7V #riseupApr 19 22:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Server Seizure, April 2012 - help.riseup.net .::. Size~: 13.23 KBApr 19 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat looks at New Zealand for further open source growth http://ur1.ca/91ik3 #redhat #nzApr 19 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Red Hat looks at New Zealand for further open source growth | Reseller News New Zealand .::. Size~: 28.3 KBApr 19 22:41
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schestowitzLLOL http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/421373/opinion_microsoft_instead_turning_lights_off_xp_make_it_open_source/?fp=4&fpid=1398720840Apr 19 22:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Opinion: Microsoft, instead of turning the lights off on XP, make it open source - windows xp, Windows Vista, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows, toxic batteries, software, recycling, open source, Office 2012, Office 2007, office 2003, non-Windows, Nissan Leaf, microsoft office, Microsoft, Linux, environment, Chevrolet, carbon footprint - Computerworld .::. Size~: 86.29 KBApr 19 22:45
schestowitzformic_: yeahApr 19 22:45
MinceRthey would never do thatApr 19 22:45
sebsebsebschestowitz: hmm 5 minutes is very short to talk about MageiaApr 19 22:48
sebsebsebn front of 100 peopleApr 19 22:48
sebsebseb100 or soApr 19 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] People behind Debian: Samuel Thibault http://ur1.ca/91ilpApr 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Tomorrow (GMT) Julian Assange will have been detained WITHOUT CHARGE for *500* days http://t.co/RbXKA7WmApr 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #watching #WayOfTheGun - such an underated #movieApr 19 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: People behind Debian: Samuel Thibault [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.25 KBApr 19 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donate - Justice for Assange .::. Size~: 13.59 KBApr 19 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] has #BeniciodelToro been in a bad movie? or has he ever been bad in any movie? I can't think of any, he's understated #classApr 19 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange lawyer questioned at Heathrow http://t.co/i1eZRCYq you can help: https://t.co/OrcGw137 and https://t.co/s2obosj0 #auspol #svpolApr 19 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Assange lawyer questioned at Heathrow - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) .::. Size~: 44.69 KBApr 19 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Donate .::. Size~: 45.57 KBApr 19 22:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to FoWL: Friends of WikiLeaks! .::. Size~: 3.99 KBApr 19 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Expect Mandatory 'Big Brother' Black Boxes In All New Cars From 2015 - Slashdot http://goo.gl/afE0H #usa #policestate + http://goo.gl/qFUVJApr 19 22:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Expect Mandatory 'Big Brother' Black Boxes In All New Cars From 2015 - Slashdot .::. Size~: 308.59 KBApr 19 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hate To Break It To You, But Your Car Likely Has A Black Box 'Spying' On You Already - Forbes .::. Size~: 114.73 KBApr 19 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #CISPA is not an "information sharing bill" only. Filtering content is possible: https://eff.org/r.4YfApr 19 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An Alternative Reading of the IADB Study on Peru's OLPC Implementation (OLPC News) http://ur1.ca/91inkApr 19 23:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yes, CISPA Could Allow Companies to Filter or Block Internet Traffic | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38 KBApr 19 23:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: An Alternative Reading of the IADB Study on Peru's OLPC Implementation (OLPC News) [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 8.5 KBApr 19 23:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Commonwealth Lawyers Association Regarding Assange Lawyer Jennifer Robinson's Interception http://t.co/r9ewxNPd #WikiLeaks #Assange #auspolApr 19 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I'm not sure it's really branded open source yet - most people don't know what it is; they want cool toys...Apr 19 23:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Statement Regarding Lawyer Jennifer Robinson's Interception | SYS-CON MEDIA .::. Size~: 67.88 KBApr 19 23:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, should beApr 19 23:06
MinceRgnApr 19 23:07
scientesMinceR, good morningApr 19 23:07
scientesor rather, afternoon :PApr 19 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] RT @JLLLOW: Roxon to face grilling on Assange lawyer - BigPond News http://t.co/o5d2NNKLApr 19 23:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Roxon to face grilling on Assange lawyer | Top Stories | BigPond News .::. Size~: 63.25 KBApr 19 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #TPP is a slimy agreement. The folks at @publicknowledge have compiled a great resource explaining how. http://tppinfo.orgApr 19 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] @evan Why do you say that?Apr 19 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Greenwald interviewed about Assange interviewing Hezbollah | RT http://t.co/tc8d9AMTApr 19 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement .::. Size~: 28.89 KBApr 19 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Greenwald: Assange show - Kremlin propaganda? Look who’s talking! — RT .::. Size~: 61.58 KBApr 19 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] FBI seizes servers because they ran software promoting Democracy and Free Speech http://identi.ca/url/69045352 !fsf !eff !linuxApr 19 23:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Server Seizure, April 2012 - help.riseup.net .::. Size~: 13.23 KBApr 19 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Assange lawyer airport fracas opens can of worms | Australian http://t.co/IXOF4ijE #auspolApr 19 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #WayOfTheGun feels like it should have been made in the 70's with the slow burning pace & breathing space for the actorsApr 19 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Cool new way to help us fight #CISPA: embed our Congressional Twitter handle detection tool on your site https://eff.org/r.Y9sApr 19 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cookies must be enabled. |  The Australian .::. Size~: 30.87 KBApr 19 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Embeddable Version of Congressional Twitter Handle Detection Tool Now Available | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.7 KBApr 19 23:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JamesCaan plays a blinder in #WayOfTheGun too, forgot about himApr 19 23:38
schestowitzsebsebseb: coolApr 19 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the shootout in the brothel is fantastic #WayOfTheGunApr 19 23:46
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