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schestowitz"Yeah, but with a vastly more funded millitary... :/" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1634459May 21 17:04
TechrightsBotNot a Diaspora post?May 21 17:04
schestowitz> I don't know if you use irc, but you could have a non-confidentialMay 21 17:07
schestowitz> conversation with Roy Schestowitz in #boycottnovell-social on FreenodeMay 21 17:07
schestowitz> any time.May 21 17:07
schestowitz> May 21 17:07
schestowitz> As I understand it he is looking for computer vision/image processingMay 21 17:07
schestowitz> projects on Android (as I mentioned his specialty is medical imageMay 21 17:07
schestowitz> processing and analysis; he's also a former MATLAB expert).May 21 17:07
schestowitz> May 21 17:07
schestowitz> He currently lives in UK.May 21 17:07
schestowitz> May 21 17:07
schestowitz> Roy, note Harsha's and Bastian's email addreses - we are currentlyMay 21 17:07
schestowitz> working on a mobile project together.May 21 17:07
schestowitzThanks for the headsup, right now I'm working on image processing and analysis in Android with OpenCV and low-res cameras. Any intersection in work?May 21 17:07
schestowitz> We have worked on image processing on the iOS. I have experimented with OpenCV using its facial recognition routines on the iOS. It quite slow and unoptimized for ARM , especially to use NEON processing. So we use a library and service from a company called moodstocks for image recognition. Ultimately want to develop our own AR ( Augmented reality ) / image recognition engine. Bastian , has years of graphics experience having been May 21 17:36
schestowitzpart of farbrausch for a long time. May 21 17:36
schestowitzAre any of those libraries available for Android as well?May 21 17:36
schestowitz> Yes moodstocks is available for Android but not open source, so is Qualcomm vuforia as well its free but not open source. You should be able to find a good OpenCV port for Android .May 21 17:53
schestowitzI have found one. It's reasonably easy to get along with, but it's good to know what /else/ is out there. Since I want the whole underlying stack to be open (it's an academic project), I guess this rules out moodstocks.May 21 17:53
schestowitz> Most of these libraries use some form of SIFT and FAST for obtaining several descriptors and then track for AR or just for image recognition. Moodstocks for example converts the image to grayscale and then extracts descriptors. May 21 17:53
schestowitzThanks for the information. If this outgrows the realms of research, then I at least know what can be achieved with proprietary components. Actually, OpenCV is a breeze compared to VXL, which I had to work with about 8 years ago (didn't get far learning the APIs).May 21 17:53
schestowitz> One thing i have noticed is , most of these libraries have now tended to use mobile phones with AUtofocus camera's and ARM v7 with neon extensions for better SIMD performance. Since you have years of experience in Matlab and image processing i assume my little insights are only pointers to get started . May 21 18:08
schestowitzThese are actually valuable thughts from someone with comprehensive experience doing CV apps for mobile platforms, unlike myself.May 21 18:08
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schestowitz> A sincere port of OpenCV is lacking for any mobile device , just stripping OpenCV to bare minimum and using it for AR would be awesome.  ARToolkit works this way but lacks optimization and features http://code.google.com/p/andar/May 21 18:08
TechrightsBotTitle: andar -      AndAR - Android Augmented Reality - Google Project Hosting .::. Size~: 15.77 KBMay 21 18:08
schestowitzOpenCV for Android lacks good docs and it's also somewhat experimental, mostly maintained by Willow Garage (Google's former staff). I'll have a look at the projects you've named.May 21 18:08
schestowitzThanks.May 21 18:08
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