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XFaCEqu1j0t3: http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/May 18 03:35
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,May 18 09:33
schestowitz> May 18 09:33
schestowitz> Nokia is about 60% of that 1.9 percent:May 18 09:33
schestowitz> May 18 09:33
schestowitz> "Yesterday, Gartner released first-quarter global phoneMay 18 09:34
schestowitz> sales data that puts to end any real debate aboutMay 18 09:34
schestowitz> Windows Phone's present: Combined smartphone OS shareMay 18 09:34
schestowitz> with Windows Mobile was 1.9 percent, down from 2.6 aMay 18 09:34
schestowitz> year earlierMay 18 09:34
schestowitz> May 18 09:34
schestowitz> http://betanews.com/2012/05/17/windows-phone-reaches-for-the-bottom/May 18 09:34
schestowitz> May 18 09:34
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schestowitz> Joe also misses RIM in his question about the number of entrants inMay 18 09:34
schestowitz> the smartphone race.  The race is currently Android and iOS with RIM aMay 18 09:34
schestowitz> distant third.May 18 09:34
schestowitzI never quite trust those numbers of Guh!rtner, but whatever they say, Android is rising and it's what we have left of mobile Linux, I guess, although Tizen is now getting an aliendalvik-like tool for running Android apps. I'm developing an Android app today, it's less challenging than I imagined. Windows is quite irrelevant in this space; it has no apps, no developers developers developers developers. Remember that Joe was a May 18 09:34
schestowitzMicrosoft booster in MS Watch (Ziff|Davis).May 18 09:34
schestowitz"Non free games aren't going away, since making a successful game requires lot's effort and heavy financing. However it has nothing to do with DRM which is not necessary ever." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1621236May 18 09:35
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schestowitzMy android app will be FOSSMay 18 09:35
schestowitzGPLMay 18 09:35
schestowitz"May 18 09:36
schestowitzWhat's more practical is probably developing open source game engines, while actual additional development and game art will stay closed. Of course ideally having fully open games (including art) is good, but it's hard to imagine how their efforts can be monetized. Selling support isn't going to make it. So if someone can come up with working model - it would be great.May 18 09:36
schestowitzDesigners, artists and as well as 3D developers is a hard work, and while non profit games exist, they rarely manage to have big scope and high quality.May 18 09:36
schestowitz"May 18 09:36
schestowitz> Yeah, though I'm now having trouble remembering who's who these days.May 18 10:09
schestowitz>  Maybe it is time to make a 2012 edition of the Credibility Index:May 18 10:09
schestowitz> http://techrights.org/credibility-index/May 18 10:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Free Software Credibility Index | Techrights .::. Size~: 74.52 KBMay 18 10:09
schestowitz> May 18 10:09
schestowitz> The M boosters still get more press than everybody else.May 18 10:09
schestowitzcredibility-index seems to have outlived its purpose because many of the people in there no longer write. The number of Microsoft boosters in the press declined as well. Now there's a group of Android bashers, though.May 18 10:09
oiaohmschestowitz: really android bashers also seam to get beat up.May 18 10:22
schestowitzyeahMay 18 10:23
schestowitzbut they do have impactMay 18 10:24
schestowitzlike the "fragmentation" stuffMay 18 10:24
oiaohmBut the fragmentation stuff has been justifed.May 18 10:24
oiaohmIt has seen google to head to head with carriers in places to get it corrected.May 18 10:24
schestowitzit's a diversity thingMay 18 10:25
schestowitzlike Windows on the desktop, with lots of h/wMay 18 10:25
oiaohmNot really.May 18 10:25
schestowitzsome companies tweak androidMay 18 10:25
schestowitzbut they don't fork itMay 18 10:25
oiaohmWhen you have 4 phones the same from different carriersMay 18 10:25
oiaohmWith different status of updatesMay 18 10:25
oiaohmbecause the carriers have have screwed the update process up does need to be addressed.May 18 10:25
oiaohmSome of the fragmenation issues are real ones that need solving.May 18 10:26
schestowitzokMay 18 10:46
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schestowitz"As for games, better support GOG, than Steam. While GOG doesn't focus on Linux, but they are strongly against DRM." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1621236May 18 17:14
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schestowitz"so be very afraid ... what FUD." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1621281May 18 17:14
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schestowitz"May 18 17:15
schestowitzSomething does not add up Microsoft just kicked them off Windows 8 and they don't see gnu/linux as their future?May 18 17:15
schestowitzCan I trust Brian Proffitt on this one? What is a "web app market place" and do I need that with gnu/linux? I don't think so. It's hard to turn this into an abandonment of gnu/linux.May 18 17:15
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1621277May 18 17:15
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schestowitz"Huh, I'll try to keep 3. in my mind ;)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1619231May 18 17:15
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XFaCEhttp://www.digitaltrends.com/music/bittorrent-piracy-increases-sales-of-leaked-albums-study/May 18 19:10
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XFaCEhttp://www.vancouverobserver.com/blogs/tmi/2012/05/11/dictator-sacha-baron-cohen-commends-stephen-harper-silencing-mediaMay 18 19:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: 'The Dictator' Sacha Baron Cohen commends Stephen Harper for silencing media  | The Vancouver Observer .::. Size~: 50.49 KBMay 18 19:14
XFaCEqu1j0t3: ^^May 18 19:14
qu1j0t3XFaCE: hiMay 18 19:15
qu1j0t3lolMay 18 19:15
XFaCEhttp://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6497/125/May 18 19:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Michael Geist - Business Software Alliance: Canadian Piracy Rate Shows Biggest Decline in the World Over Past 5 Yrs .::. Size~: 58.65 KBMay 18 19:41
XFaCEqu1j0t3: I really don't get thisMay 18 19:41
XFaCEWhy does the Microsoft front group love Canada so much?May 18 19:41
XFaCEEspecially considering how manufactured their statistics areMay 18 19:42
qu1j0t3XFaCE: because canadians have money too and they think they can get their hands on some.May 18 19:43
XFaCEqu1j0t3: The BSA has praised Canada for *low* software "piracy"May 18 19:44
qu1j0t3right.May 18 19:44
XFaCEThe Maffia would do the opposite in order to encourage money-extracting lawsMay 18 19:44
XFaCEMaybe Canada's current copyright laws favour the software companies more. :?May 18 19:45
*qu1j0t3 doesn't know.May 18 19:45
qu1j0t3all i know is they want our moneyMay 18 19:45
XFaCEIt's just strangeMay 18 19:45
XFaCEespecially when c11 gives unlimited power to DRMMay 18 19:45
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Get to the bottom of it! Immediately!May 18 19:46
XFaCE;)May 18 19:46
qu1j0t3:|May 18 19:48
XFaCEqu1j0t3: BTW, can you share some of those articles explaining Harper's unpunished crimes during the G20 debacle?May 18 19:52
qu1j0t3XFaCE: nobody has tied them to harper.May 18 19:53
qu1j0t3XFaCE: yet.May 18 19:53
XFaCEqu1j0t3: I though you said they hadMay 18 19:53
qu1j0t3well, i haven't kept up lately, but all through last year's police stuff, nobody would point a finger any higher than RCMPMay 18 19:54
qu1j0t3though it's clear to me that it was all orchestrated from on highMay 18 19:54
qu1j0t3i can see why nobody wants to be the first to say itMay 18 19:54
qu1j0t3he's set things up to make criticism that much harderMay 18 19:55
qu1j0t3but one day somebody will line up the evidenceMay 18 19:55
qu1j0t3XFaCE: e.g. the only way you can get such consistent brutality from cops is to hand pick the cops who were on the street and operated the detention centre.May 18 19:56
qu1j0t3XFaCE: and I am certain that's what was done.May 18 19:56
qu1j0t3XFaCE: they had at least 16,000 police ... they handpicked a few hundred known violent onesMay 18 19:56
XFaCEicMay 18 23:07
qu1j0t3XFaCE: http://www.thestar.com/videozone/1181011--nude-stephen-harper-painting-causes-a-stir?bn=1May 18 23:08
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XFaCEnot sure if I should click that...May 18 23:08

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