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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It seems relatively straightforward to make a GPLv3 or AGPLv3 fork of OpenShift. #gnushift #freeshift | May 02 00:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana sounds like Red Hat is uncertain about the OSS proposition that OSS is more beneficial to all involved parties | May 02 00:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana if it was sure, it would know others would join in regardless of conditions to keep derivatives OSS | May 02 00:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @evan it is obviously trivial, for there's license compatibility. but that won't get users copyleft defenses from sidestream abusers | May 02 00:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Advisory Committee Elects Advisory Board http://ow.ly/1jjxa6 | May 02 00:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Not too rainy here at Fenway. #redsox | May 02 00:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] or at least that should be the effect of dual licensing on rational players who understand the legal meaning of this practice ;-D | May 02 00:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] caution: master at work http://goo.gl/pbFj1 #EricJohnson explaining & demoing some of his style on the #guitar | May 02 00:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] University smoothly switches open source library management systems http://ur1.ca/9518g #foss #software | May 02 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #China mulls guarantees for ships carrying #Iran oil | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/3Bi5q #peakoil | May 02 00:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Some idiot ported Android to that Microsoft's broken !Java impl http://identi.ca/url/69385294 | May 02 00:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Get rid of 'digital handcuffs', says European commission vice-president http://ur1.ca/91oqj #kroes #eu #europe | May 02 00:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ojay! The Best Street Bassist Ever http://goo.gl/Trf6L #fb | May 02 00:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin review http://ur1.ca/95efk #engadget #gnu #linux | May 02 01:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] HTTP Monitor http://ur1.ca/95dze #mozilla #firefox | May 02 01:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks How a Dream PetHouse turned into an expensive nightmare Scammers make “free” games for http://ur1. ... | May 02 01:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. An oldie but goodie - http://ur1.ca/95eha #fb #in | May 02 01:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @fontana !RedHat releases #OpenShift Origin under #Apache License 2.0 http://ur1.ca/951s9 | May 02 01:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana because they misunderstand the license, or because they don't want to respect users' freedoms? | May 02 01:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] The New Desktop Paradigm: Blame the Success of Linux on the Desktop http://ur1.ca/94rds #microsoft #linux #desktop #computer | May 02 01:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana that sounded like an admission of preemptive defeat :-( | May 02 02:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @sunil_abraham: ‘Biometrics are not as perfect as some politicians and vendors would like you to believe’ http://is.gd/1zgNcc #UID | May 02 02:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good for you! | May 02 02:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I'm well aware and it's something that concerns me a lot. I'm working to make sure that the newer versions of PuSH support private messages. | May 02 02:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | is there an open source add-on which does the same job as Video Download Helper? | May 02 02:37 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I liked this post. I think most likely scenario is CC'd peer-produced useful works (Wikipedia, OpenCourseware) dominate... | May 02 02:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...mass culture continues cat-and-mouse game of piracy vs. copyright enforcement... | May 02 02:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...and fringe or underground culture dances between the three modes (free culture vs copyright enforcement vs copyright infringement) | May 02 02:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Although this all sounds dangerously like @rms's three-kinds-of-cultural-works speech, which I have never liked. | May 02 02:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Mine sounds more Situationist, though. | May 02 02:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Copyright wars in this millennium have done more to sour people on popular culture than 100,000,000 KILL YOUR TV stickers ever could. | May 02 02:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] BREAKING: @Mozilla slams #CISPA, says the bill "infringes on our privacy." https://eff.org/r.a6ab | May 02 02:49 | |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalty_Day | May 02 02:52 |
| DaemonFC | Obama wants you to reaffirm your loyalty to the US and all the freedom it stands for, as he issues hit orders on Americans abroad and asserts that you can be arrested by the military... | May 02 02:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think there'll be a decrease in pressure as universal access platforms (YouTube, Spotify) find ways to pay for everything at once. | May 02 03:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] AKA, "BUY ALL THE MOVIES" | May 02 03:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] This is probably only in society's interest if there is at least token competition between 3-5 or hopefully more players. | May 02 03:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] "invariant sections"? #fightingwords | May 02 03:04 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5NTE | May 02 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | Android ported to C# | May 02 03:05 |
| -kloeri-[Global Notice] Hi all. We're experiencing some technical problems and as a side-effect of that services email is currently down. This means that registering nicks and sending password reset emails won't currently work. The mails will be queued up but it's unknown when they'll be delivered. Thank you for using freenode. | May 02 03:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana I think a trivial change like s/OpenShift/GNUShift/ or what have you would be enough of a change to be a derivative work. | May 02 03:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's really nice, actually! I've started working on getting StatusNet running there. | May 02 03:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Now also upgrading #kubuntu to 12.04 on USB HDD, 2423 packages to be downloaded | May 02 03:24 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: that is more a test of how much java they can convert to c# | May 02 03:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I would like to see the same results to vala | May 02 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | the benchmarking results they have supplied seem misleading | May 02 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | from the looks of it, it bypasses Android's security model almost entirely to get those results | May 02 03:30 |
| oiaohm | Not exaclty miss leading. | May 02 03:30 |
| oiaohm | davik was design todo something .net is not. | May 02 03:31 |
| oiaohm | Tollerate losing converted code. | May 02 03:31 |
| oiaohm | What makes davik slower yes. | May 02 03:32 |
| oiaohm | But also make davik work better in cases of running out of memory. | May 02 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't had any huge performance problems out of Android | May 02 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | although it seemed to improve a lot in 4.0 coming from 3.2 | May 02 03:33 |
| oiaohm | In fact the android core runs faster not using davik. | May 02 03:35 |
| oiaohm | using gcj or llvm to build it. | May 02 03:35 |
| oiaohm | So that davik got beat was kinda to be expected it not the fastest java engine out there. | May 02 03:35 |
| oiaohm | It was not designed to be. | May 02 03:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan I don't think so, but world hereby granted permission to relicense unmodified #OpenShift Origin under #AGPL. Use different name tho. | May 02 03:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan on #OpenShift? I've tried twice w/ no success incl. last night but granted I don't know what I'm doing. Got closer the first time. | May 02 03:36 | |
| oiaohm | Now it would be interesting to see how the mono version copes with out of memory. | May 02 03:36 |
| oiaohm | I would expect it would do the normal .net and screw up completely. | May 02 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DRI2DriversOnly | May 02 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | WHo cares about XvMC? | May 02 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | it's poorly supported by applications and is only useful for MPEG 2 video | May 02 03:37 |
| oiaohm | davik for a long time would not run on a standard Linux kernel because it need extra kernel feature to allow memory to be tagged dropable even that it was application created. | May 02 03:37 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: XvMC has two versions. | May 02 03:40 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: DRI1 XvMC and DRI2 XvMC | May 02 03:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan I also got crazy idea to run #statusnet on top of #JBossAS on #OpenShift. It *must* be possible. | May 02 03:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Yes, on the big OpenShift service. Couldn't run identi.ca there yet (no queue server module), but otherwise should work. | May 02 03:41 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: All applications that call XvMC if DRI2 XvMC is there application knows no difference. | May 02 03:41 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: "openchrome driver is still built with DRI1 enabled since the XvMC support requires it" That is a legacy bit of crap code. | May 02 03:42 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: ATI Nvidia and Intel open source drivers all do XvMC on pure DRI2 | May 02 03:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana I think we could probably make the cron module work, though. | May 02 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I don't even know what that is. | May 02 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] But I'm definitely going to try some of the NodeJS stuff I've been doing there. | May 02 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] One thing that I think PaaS providers need to do is allow a "fallback" to IaaS. If you don't have a module for RabbitMQ (say), ... | May 02 03:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Via's open source efforts have been sporadic at best | May 02 03:43 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | May 02 03:43 |
| oiaohm | Nothing wrong with XvMC as such. | May 02 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | I think there are now several different driver projects that each cover some of the same hardware | May 02 03:43 |
| DaemonFC | you'll never get anywhere if you have to rewrite support for the same piece of hardware 3 times over | May 02 03:44 |
| DaemonFC | I brought in KDE 4.8.3 | May 02 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | still no release notes for it because it's not officially released :P | May 02 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | seems to work OK | May 02 03:45 |
| oiaohm | Also the other thing XvMC can be forwarded to VA API | May 02 03:46 |
| oiaohm | Basically if all cards supported VA API XvMC mostly could be turned into a small front end wrapper. | May 02 03:48 |
| oiaohm | For legacy support. | May 02 03:48 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Really compared to windows drivers 3 times over is not bad. | May 02 03:49 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Ati open source drivers was up to 4 branches at open point. | May 02 03:49 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: for R500 hardware | May 02 03:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] ...let me spin up my own virtual server in the same data centre and run it on that. | May 02 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana btw, personally I think AGPL here would have been a strong business move. | May 02 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan that sounds like it might be like what #OpenShift calls "DIY" - see e.g. http://ur1.ca/95f16 | May 02 03:51 | |
| DaemonFC | LXDE is such a pile of crap | May 02 03:55 |
| *DaemonFC wonders why anyone would deal with this | May 02 03:55 | |
| oiaohm | Its light | May 02 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | I saw someone post screenshots of Fedora 17, all spins | May 02 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | meh, light is one thing | May 02 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | crippled is when you've gone way too far | May 02 03:56 |
| oiaohm | does not make a lot of noise on a vnc connection or anything else. | May 02 03:56 |
| oiaohm | For some things you don't care. | May 02 03:56 |
| oiaohm | For a general desktop I would say no way in hell. | May 02 03:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez Je mag het anders ook in persoon komen doen hoor ;) - Dank je trouwens | May 02 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tdelestre thanks! | May 02 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken nee | May 02 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan there certainly was a business argument for using #AGPL | May 02 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken goed gezegd man! En dankje | May 02 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Tuinslak: Just chilling and reading the newspaper... http://t.co/NhsRGJGq | May 02 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken jouw ;) - Zijn ze al gedeeld? | May 02 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tinydroptest2 Zo verbaasd? Meeste mensen verjaren soms hoor ;-) Dank je | May 02 03:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Ghendetta: Onze slides van vanavond op @Gent_M #16 - Not another silicon valley: http://ur1.ca/95f0 http://ur1. ... | May 02 03:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Has someone tested http://ur1.ca/95f0h yet? The next generation mobility planners are coming soon, this http://ur1. ... | May 02 03:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @coreation @Tanfoglio_ AMAI ;) Bedankt enzo! | May 02 03:59 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: again with LXDE makes TWM look poor. | May 02 04:11 |
| scientes | oiaohm, he is so predictable, isn't he | May 02 04:16 |
| scientes | "catalyst is crap, but i use it anyways" | May 02 04:16 |
| scientes | etc | May 02 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | well, if I had a dime for every time some open source project said "Yeah, that's broke, but fuck it, I don't use that feature"... | May 02 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | or something to that effect | May 02 04:17 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: sometimes that is productive. | May 02 04:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean So TPMs have own !copyright &manufacturer/rightsholder can prevent circumvention if work's rightsholder permits? !C11 !CDNpoli | May 02 04:18 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: how did they work out what areas of X11 was really used. | May 02 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | or XFCE "Yeah, we do that! After you pull in half of GNOME..." | May 02 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | and it's always over some little thing too, like menu editing | May 02 04:18 |
| oiaohm | Yep systemmatic breaking areas and waiting for the screams. | May 02 04:18 |
| scientes | like we should move from pcre to DE2 whereever possible | May 02 04:19 |
| oiaohm | Then you wake up the guy doing that is Intel lead driver designer. | May 02 04:19 |
| scientes | cause we should be using "regular" regular expressions | May 02 04:19 |
| scientes | instead of non-regular "regular" expressions | May 02 04:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Just back from screening excellent documentary: 'We Are Legion: The Story Of The Hacktivists' *very* well done | May 02 04:19 | |
| scientes | for example, i learned today that it is possible to use "regular" expressions of perl and ruby to check if a number is prime | May 02 04:20 |
| scientes | SERIOUSLY | May 02 04:20 |
| scientes | wtf | May 02 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | well, a lot of things X11 does haven't made any sense at all in 20 years or more | May 02 04:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: open source does work a lot from the point of view if it broken and no body screams it cannot important. | May 02 04:20 |
| scientes | http://www.noulakaz.net/weblog/2007/03/18/a-regular-expression-to-check-for-prime-numbers/ | May 02 04:20 |
| scientes | /^1?$|^(11+?)\1+$/ | May 02 04:20 |
| scientes | the is_prime regular expression! | May 02 04:20 |
| scientes | (except it isn't regular at all) | May 02 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | I don't get why they want to replace X anyway | May 02 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | isntead of running X, you can run this other thing, that runs X! | May 02 04:21 |
| *scientes is going to ignore this | May 02 04:21 | |
| *scientes has been in #wayland for a long time | May 02 04:21 | |
| oiaohm | You mean wayland that it can run X | May 02 04:22 |
| oiaohm | It runs X the same way windows runs X DaemonFC | May 02 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | poorly? | May 02 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | shoot me slow? | May 02 04:22 |
| oiaohm | No | May 02 04:22 |
| oiaohm | wayland running X is the same speed as native X11 | May 02 04:22 |
| oiaohm | Windows running X11 poor is other issues. | May 02 04:22 |
| oiaohm | Wayland lets many secuirty issues be fixed up. | May 02 04:23 |
| oiaohm | X11 evil of evil you can snoop on keystrokes. | May 02 04:23 |
| oiaohm | X11 you can capture the full screen from almost all applications. | May 02 04:23 |
| oiaohm | There is no clear link between windows applications started and the system process. | May 02 04:24 |
| oiaohm | Basically X11 is a pig sty. | May 02 04:24 |
| oiaohm | wayland create a nice set of rules. So now you can isolate applications from each other. You know what process a window owns to and so on. | May 02 04:25 |
| scientes | wow, that pretty much sums it up | May 02 04:25 |
| scientes | and also gets right to the point | May 02 04:25 |
| DaemonFC | it breaks all the graphics drivers most people really use | May 02 04:26 |
| formic_ | oh no! | May 02 04:26 |
| DaemonFC | it adds a pointless layer that a lot of applications will not use directly because they use X | May 02 04:26 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Because they are not desgined for secuirty in mind | May 02 04:26 |
| formic_ | new stuff breaks old stuff | May 02 04:26 |
| formic_ | <sarcasm> surprise! </sarcasm> | May 02 04:26 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: even not using wayland directly you still fix up the security fix. | May 02 04:27 |
| scientes | new stuff breaks non-free code | May 02 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | so where do AMD and Nvidia come into all this? | May 02 04:27 |
| scientes | <sarcasm> suprise! </suprise> | May 02 04:27 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: each applicaiton inside wayland cna basically have its own private X11 server. | May 02 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | are they going to tell you to keep using X? | May 02 04:27 |
| oiaohm | AMD open soruce drivers support everything wayland needs. | May 02 04:28 |
| oiaohm | ARM Mali already support what is required. | May 02 04:28 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - why dont you just run ubuntu 10.04 if you want old stuff to work | May 02 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | what about people who need OpenGL with decent performance? | May 02 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | or OpenCL | May 02 04:28 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia for arm already support wayland. | May 02 04:28 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, please stay in the dark ages, for all our benifit | May 02 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | are they going to be left behind because of Wayland? | May 02 04:28 |
| oiaohm | Nvidia for x86 is being a pain in ass. | May 02 04:28 |
| formic_ | scientes - 'benefit' | May 02 04:28 |
| scientes | oiaohm, nouveau support tegra? | May 02 04:28 |
| DaemonFC | the open source drivers tend to run OpenGL at about a tenth the speed of proprietary drivers | May 02 04:29 |
| oiaohm | scientes: I mean Real Nvidia closed source driver for tegra its KMS and DRI2 | May 02 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | they're unusable if you want much mroe than desktop effects | May 02 04:29 |
| scientes | oiaohm, oh yeah, i remember reading about that | May 02 04:29 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - proprietary drivers? whats wrong with freebsd/zfs then | May 02 04:29 |
| scientes | oiaohm, is there a nouveau for arm tegra? | May 02 04:29 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD uses nonfree drivers for all kinds of things | May 02 04:30 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: basically almost all you proprietary drivers for arm support wayland. | May 02 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | with Linux, it's basically only the GPU you need them for | May 02 04:30 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - that makes linux non-free | May 02 04:30 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Its just one x86 platforms do we have the strange problem. | May 02 04:30 |
| formic_ | clearly | May 02 04:30 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: of DRI1 style drivers. | May 02 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | it's a matter of how many nonfree drivers you want to depend on and how many parts of your system don't work without them | May 02 04:30 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - you're just making up excuses | May 02 04:31 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: so everything bar x86 platforms will have no trouble going wayland. | May 02 04:31 |
| formic_ | if freebsd supported xfs, you'd have no issues | May 02 04:31 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: and the x86 will be splotchy | May 02 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | I think we can agree that a broken arm is better than being ran over by a truck and ending up in a full body cast | May 02 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | even if a broken arm is still bad | May 02 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | but FreeBSD is the full body cast | May 02 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's totally unusable without nonfree drivers running the entire system | May 02 04:31 |
| formic_ | lol thats not true | May 02 04:32 |
| formic_ | you are over-generalizing | May 02 04:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really when you know the arm platform the mips platform the powerpc platformm... All are wayland ready. | May 02 04:32 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: question becomes will we require x86 | May 02 04:32 |
| formic_ | daemonfc just wants his non free hardware to work on his non free linux os | May 02 04:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum “Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if ht ... | May 02 04:33 | |
| formic_ | (ubuntu) | May 02 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | FreeBSD to nonfree drivers | May 02 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | "Thank you sir, may I have another?" | May 02 04:33 |
| formic_ | FreeBSD and Linux have nonfree drivers, often required to make some random hardware work | May 02 04:33 |
| oiaohm | FreeBSD on arm hey I have no drivers. | May 02 04:34 |
| formic_ | having to use non free drivers on linux is identical to having to use non free drivers on freebsd | May 02 04:34 |
| oiaohm | Arm drivers makers are like where are you KMS support. | May 02 04:34 |
| oiaohm | FreeBSD is like we don't have it yet. | May 02 04:34 |
| *scientes thinks its super cool how linux has drivers that work on multiple architectures | May 02 04:34 | |
| formic_ | freebsd is for servers | May 02 04:34 |
| scientes | with the exact same code | May 02 04:35 |
| formic_ | scientes - daemonfc doesnt care unless he can install a non free amd video card | May 02 04:35 |
| formic_ | because, he claims, its the best | May 02 04:35 |
| oiaohm | tizen 1.0 made it | May 02 04:37 |
| oiaohm | Now question can tizen 1.0 get devices. | May 02 04:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I really love the gthumb viewer, except after the computer has been on a while it refuses to open until next time I reboot :( | May 02 04:38 | |
| scientes | oiaohm, but tizen uses SMACK :P | May 02 04:39 |
| scientes | and you are a selinux fanboy | May 02 04:39 |
| oiaohm | Really SMACK makes it into my decent level. | May 02 04:39 |
| oiaohm | Stuff like apparmor ubuntu use going into its complete crap. | May 02 04:40 |
| scientes | but SMACK was lasted as a clone of apparmor when it came out... | May 02 04:40 |
| oiaohm | No SMACK predates apparmor. | May 02 04:40 |
| oiaohm | SMACK is a direct veration off selinux with simpler configuration files and some options removed. | May 02 04:41 |
| oiaohm | In fact smack and selinux directly share some code. | May 02 04:41 |
| scientes | wow, i asked ruby if (2**101 - 1) was a prime number this fmorning | May 02 04:42 |
| oiaohm | SMACK even uses file attributes like selinux | May 02 04:42 |
| scientes | and it is still trying to figure that out... | May 02 04:42 |
| formic_ | I got the fire tablet | May 02 04:42 |
| formic_ | the amazon firmware is kind of shitty | May 02 04:43 |
| scientes | the amazon firecrotch? | May 02 04:43 |
| formic_ | kindle fire | May 02 04:43 |
| formic_ | its not a redhead | May 02 04:43 |
| scientes | amazon kindling? | May 02 04:43 |
| oiaohm | scientes: Apparmor started live at Novell SUSE many years due to design flaws SUSE dropped it. Lead developer moved to Ubuntu and its still a mess. | May 02 04:43 |
| scientes | wow, i've processed that prime calculation for 6.5 hours running time so far | May 02 04:44 |
| oiaohm | scientes: Apparmor avoids at all cost setting file attribuited for secuirty settings. | May 02 04:44 |
| formic_ | oiaohm - what would you trust: 1) NSA developed security extensions for Linux, or 2) A close personal friend of Microsoft, Novell | May 02 04:44 |
| oiaohm | formic_: when close personal friend of Microsoft drops it because they cannot make it work safe and they document why. You care kinda stupid not to listen. | May 02 04:45 |
| formic_ | Provided that #2 is based in Utah (mormons!) | May 02 04:45 |
| oiaohm | Novell documented why not to use apparmor | May 02 04:46 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 02 04:46 |
| oiaohm | IBM aggreed with the assessment. | May 02 04:46 |
| formic_ | "We invented Apparmor, this is why you shouldn't use it - it suxxx" | May 02 04:46 |
| oiaohm | And ubuntu has used it anyhow. | May 02 04:46 |
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| formic_ | ubuntu has NIS | May 02 04:46 |
| formic_ | NIHS | May 02 04:46 |
| scientes | formic_, agreed | May 02 04:46 |
| oiaohm | It gets worse Ubuntus version of apparmor is altered to what has been upstreamed. | May 02 04:47 |
| scientes | selinux/apparmor, gnome-shell/unity, upstart/systemd | May 02 04:47 |
| formic_ | as much as I love the 'google go' programming language, im sure canonical is using it just to be incompatible with others | May 02 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | actually, AppArmor's former lead developer is at Microsoft now | May 02 04:47 |
| oiaohm | So it has not been reviewed by thrid parties. | May 02 04:47 |
| formic_ | **** systemd/upstart | May 02 04:48 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: he took a trip past Ubuntu on the way there. | May 02 04:48 |
| formic_ | cruftstart is ubuntu | May 02 04:48 |
| scientes | formic_, slowstart | May 02 04:49 |
| oiaohm | systemd is leaving upstart in the dust. | May 02 04:49 |
| formic_ | obsoletestart | May 02 04:49 |
| oiaohm | All the proper secuirty systemd is bring in as default. | May 02 04:50 |
| oiaohm | going to get worse when multi seat comes to systemd distributions by default as well. | May 02 04:50 |
| oiaohm | One bad side systemd has picked up full ima support. | May 02 04:51 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yep | May 02 04:51 |
| scientes | <oiaohm> going to get worse when multi seat comes to systemd distributions by default as well. | May 02 04:51 |
| scientes | i've personally been part of that revolution | May 02 04:51 |
| scientes | ima? | May 02 04:51 |
| oiaohm | linux-ima.sourceforge.net | May 02 04:52 |
| scientes | its also gained watchdog support | May 02 04:52 |
| scientes | hardware watchdog | May 02 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | it's likely that Ubuntu and Debian will end up maintaining ConsoleKit themselves | May 02 04:53 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it gets more fun. | May 02 04:53 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, debian is moving to systemd as far as i can see | May 02 04:53 |
| scientes | they have a project to generate sysvinit files from systemd unity files | May 02 04:53 |
| DaemonFC | Lennart Poettering loves to call Debian crap | May 02 04:54 |
| scientes | ? | May 02 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | he took a few more potshots at them already for not moving to systemd | May 02 04:54 |
| scientes | Poettering has only attacked GNU/kFreeBSD | May 02 04:54 |
| scientes | not Debian proper | May 02 04:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, this is more recent | May 02 04:54 |
| scientes | well, they arn't going to release for a while... | May 02 04:54 |
| oiaohm | Really Lennart has some valid reasons. | May 02 04:54 |
| scientes | but yeah he only has about 6 months left to make it the default in wheezy | May 02 04:54 |
| scientes | i've filed bugs about that | May 02 04:55 |
| oiaohm | Debian is changing a lot of the ways they do things as well. | May 02 04:55 |
| *scientes uses systemd in debian | May 02 04:55 | |
| scientes | and its great! | May 02 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | whatever he's doing this week is golden (even when it doesn't work right) | May 02 04:55 |
| oiaohm | Like debian is working on making as many test systems as able work. | May 02 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | anyone who holds off on it until it does work is "crap" or a "toy OS" | May 02 04:55 |
| oiaohm | And run every release. | May 02 04:55 |
| scientes | like how it unifies all my logs, so i can divert them to another drive, for example | May 02 04:55 |
| oiaohm | That will reduce a lot of problems. | May 02 04:55 |
| oiaohm | There is a lot of work on quality control at debian at moment. | May 02 04:56 |
| oiaohm | Not as much on expand. | May 02 04:56 |
| scientes | ..and as debian has delayed systemd has grown bigger and bigger... | May 02 04:56 |
| scientes | journald, logind | May 02 04:56 |
| scientes | integrated watchdogd | May 02 04:56 |
| oiaohm | debian is slow and careful. | May 02 04:57 |
| oiaohm | Always has been. | May 02 04:57 |
| oiaohm | Lennart has always been a rush. | May 02 04:57 |
| oiaohm | So of course those two should not get along. | May 02 04:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] If running OpenShift is to be a direct revenue stream, AGPL better. If goal is to get others to adopt, then sell them RHEL, AL better. | May 02 04:58 | |
| oiaohm | Also it would be impossible for distributions to avoid systemd completely. | May 02 04:58 |
| oiaohm | udev and systemd are now in the same development tree. | May 02 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | but udev will still work without systemd | May 02 04:59 |
| scientes | systemd is awesome and everyone should switch to it | May 02 05:00 |
| oiaohm | At this stage. DaemonFC | May 02 05:00 |
| scientes | basically. | May 02 05:00 |
| oiaohm | Really I would like to see systemd ported to more platforms. | May 02 05:00 |
| oiaohm | sysvinit needs to die. | May 02 05:00 |
| scientes | oiaohm, you can only port the interfaces | May 02 05:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Um, yes. The manufacturer or the #DRM / #TPM holds rights to it, and the #creator of the #copyright work cannot sign those away | May 02 05:01 | |
| scientes | the program itsself is basically unportable | May 02 05:01 |
| scientes | but alot of the interfaces are fairly straight forward... | May 02 05:01 |
| scientes | it would only suport eh subset that the other OS supports of course | May 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like how it drags everyone else along behind it through manipulation | May 02 05:02 |
| scientes | but that would be very reasonable | May 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's obvious that Red Hat controls GNOME | May 02 05:02 |
| scientes | however, that systemd-to-sysvinit conversion script really is the first step in that diretion oiaohm | May 02 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | but XFCE and KDE end up having to deal with the fallout of things systemd is doing | May 02 05:02 |
| oiaohm | scientes: I mean on hurd and other kernels. | May 02 05:02 |
| oiaohm | scientes: I want to never ever see sysvinit again. | May 02 05:03 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yeah, you cant port the program | May 02 05:03 |
| oiaohm | scientes: biggest mistake of unix history | May 02 05:03 |
| scientes | that is impossible | May 02 05:03 |
| scientes | it just can't be done | May 02 05:03 |
| oiaohm | scientes: I would not say impossible. | May 02 05:03 |
| scientes | you have to port the interfaces, which are much more straight forward | May 02 05:03 |
| oiaohm | launchd for OS X has a lot of commonality to systemd | May 02 05:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes of course Linux only features would have to be replaced with something else from that platform. | May 02 05:04 |
| oiaohm | cgroups might be able to be freebsd jails. | May 02 05:05 |
| oiaohm | And so on. | May 02 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora ships a lot of things broken pretty badly, sometimes it's subtle | May 02 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | unless you want to use their GNOME edition, which just sucks | May 02 05:05 |
| oiaohm | Fedora is a testing distribution. | May 02 05:05 |
| oiaohm | Even there GNOME edition can be busted. | May 02 05:05 |
| oiaohm | In some highly creative ways. | May 02 05:06 |
| oiaohm | Best so far is print screen that does not. | May 02 05:06 |
| scientes | fedora is super bleeding edge | May 02 05:06 |
| scientes | and yes, if you use anything non-default in fedora changes is you are running highly untested codepaths | May 02 05:06 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Yep instead of picture of screen gave you a image comtaining all black the same size as screen. | May 02 05:06 |
| scientes | but the bugs have to be fixed sometime! | May 02 05:06 |
| scientes | and that is what fedora is about, ironing out all the bugs | May 02 05:07 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Most people would guess. | May 02 05:07 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: what you got was a 1x1 black dot. | May 02 05:07 |
| cubezzz | it's not bleeding edge when you use fc1 :) | May 02 05:08 |
| scientes | cubezzz, haha | May 02 05:08 |
| scientes | no point using anything but the latest (even beta) when you use fedora | May 02 05:08 |
| scientes | cause you are going to get alpha quality no matter what | May 02 05:08 |
| cubezzz | I've had very long uptimes with fc1 | May 02 05:10 |
| oiaohm | fc1 was basicallly redhat 9 relabeled. | May 02 05:10 |
| scientes | cubezzz, as long as you dont try to do any computation :P | May 02 05:11 |
| oiaohm | So was some where neer quality checked. | May 02 05:11 |
| scientes | and only shoot for uptime :P | May 02 05:11 |
| oiaohm | fc2 on did fedora start becoming testing zone. | May 02 05:11 |
| cubezzz | computation? why would that be a problem? | May 02 05:11 |
| oiaohm | Got really scary in fedora 5 | May 02 05:11 |
| scientes | well i should have said "sas long as you dont try to do anything with it" | May 02 05:11 |
| scientes | ---that way it wont crash | May 02 05:11 |
| cubezzz | scientes, it's my server | May 02 05:12 |
| cubezzz | it's always doing stuff | May 02 05:12 |
| scientes | im joking | May 02 05:12 |
| scientes | ilnux has great uptimes, linux is very stable | May 02 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_have_two_cows | May 02 05:12 |
| scientes | just fedora tends to be far more alpha quality than other distributions | May 02 05:12 |
| oiaohm | scientes: there is worse than fedora | May 02 05:13 |
| scientes | on the same note however, there is tons of software in debian, which is full of bugs | May 02 05:13 |
| scientes | there is and endless amoutn of bug-fixing to be done.. | May 02 05:13 |
| oiaohm | scientes: let someone near crux without common sense. | May 02 05:13 |
| cubezzz | I'd be pleased to hear about the perfect os :) | May 02 05:13 |
| oiaohm | scientes: lot of debian and other distrobution problems track to there quiltiy control systems. | May 02 05:14 |
| oiaohm | Debian is working on fixing that. | May 02 05:14 |
| oiaohm | testcasing kinda needs to be mandorary. | May 02 05:14 |
| oiaohm | Its the only way you know you are going forwards and not around in circiles. | May 02 05:15 |
| oiaohm | Ie fix this bug bring back that bug fix that bug bring back the first for ever problem is what happens without testcases. | May 02 05:15 |
| formic_ | Lennart Poettering is a genius | May 02 05:15 |
| formic_ | only people with terrible hardware hate him | May 02 05:15 |
| cubezzz | I've had pretty good results with f10 too | May 02 05:15 |
| formic_ | (pulseaudio) | May 02 05:15 |
| cubezzz | uptimes over 100 days | May 02 05:15 |
| oiaohm | I would not say its a genius. | May 02 05:15 |
| oiaohm | formic_: I hate him because I work with wine. | May 02 05:16 |
| formic_ | wine? | May 02 05:16 |
| oiaohm | Nothing todo with terrible hardware. | May 02 05:16 |
| formic_ | why the hell would you work with wine | May 02 05:16 |
| oiaohm | wine just found many many ways to break pulseaudio. | May 02 05:16 |
| formic_ | thats because wine is a POS hack | May 02 05:16 |
| oiaohm | formic_: I have done testing and support for them since back in 1996 | May 02 05:16 |
| formic_ | nobody gives a shit if windows software breaks in pulseaudio | May 02 05:17 |
| formic_ | other than, you know, people who LIKE the software | May 02 05:17 |
| formic_ | ie, fools | May 02 05:17 |
| oiaohm | Most of faults wine found other programs do cause. | May 02 05:17 |
| formic_ | anyone heard that wine is making an activex powered browser? | May 02 05:17 |
| formic_ | those guys are REAL intelligent | May 02 05:18 |
| formic_ | lets port activex malware to linux!! | May 02 05:18 |
| formic_ | normal windows malware isn't enough | May 02 05:18 |
| formic_ | we need moar! | May 02 05:18 |
| oiaohm | formic_: its a case of not having a choice to run the applications. | May 02 05:18 |
| formic_ | did wine port the BSOD to linux yet? | May 02 05:18 |
| cubezzz | save us Plan 9! | May 02 05:18 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | May 02 05:19 |
| formic_ | cubezzz +1 | May 02 05:19 |
| formic_ | Plan9 rox | May 02 05:19 |
| oiaohm | formic_: the activex was done so people could get into banking sites. | May 02 05:19 |
| oiaohm | formic_: Yes some banks are nuts. | May 02 05:19 |
| formic_ | oiaohm - instead of pressuring banks to adopt standards | May 02 05:19 |
| cubezzz | formic_, it's rare to see anyone use it... at least in here | May 02 05:19 |
| cubezzz | didn't korea use activex in banks? | May 02 05:20 |
| oiaohm | formic_: to be correct the browser did work to force banks to adopt standards. | May 02 05:20 |
| formic_ | not if they are still using activex | May 02 05:20 |
| formic_ | which negates the need for a browser | May 02 05:20 |
| formic_ | its also, 12 years too late | May 02 05:20 |
| cubezzz | btw, what is the advantage of pulseaudio over ALSA? | May 02 05:20 |
| scientes | oiaohm, indeed the problems in debian are problems with the programs, not debian core os | May 02 05:21 |
| oiaohm | formic_: most don't because wine active x browser support kinda trips all the secuirty alarms in a random pattern. | May 02 05:21 |
| formic_ | cubezzz - for one, I can have seperate volume control and even seperate apps using a usb headset/mic and my onboard sound | May 02 05:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean All too often the creator of the #copyright work isn't the rights holder either :( | May 02 05:21 | |
| oiaohm | formic_: forced to make something does not mean you have to do a good job of it. | May 02 05:21 |
| scientes | meh, i had problems with pulseaudio on really high quality hardware | May 02 05:21 |
| scientes | like emu10k1 | May 02 05:21 |
| formic_ | ROFL | May 02 05:21 |
| formic_ | emu10k is NOT high quality | May 02 05:21 |
| formic_ | perhaps it was in 2001 | May 02 05:21 |
| scientes | which is hardware that if everyone had it, noone would need pulseaudio | May 02 05:21 |
| oiaohm | formic_: and that bad job causes the banks using active x more headaches than complaints. | May 02 05:21 |
| scientes | formic_, its jsut that CPUs can do what it does now, so pulseaudio is good | May 02 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | it never was | May 02 05:22 |
| formic_ | emu10k was always a POS imo | May 02 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | infact the only way to get even passible quality out of those cards is to bypass the emu10k dsp | May 02 05:22 |
| scientes | no, its no production | May 02 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | and not all cards allow that | May 02 05:22 |
| scientes | its not for audio recording, i've worked with that stuff | May 02 05:22 |
| scientes | its very consumer, but it works crappy with pulseaudio | May 02 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not for games, since most games dont use hardware accel | May 02 05:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not even for audio mixing, since it only outputs 48khz | May 02 05:23 |
| formic_ | theres nothing special about the emu10k that you can't get in a 0.2 cent chip | May 02 05:23 |
| *scientes is a emu10k1 fanboy | May 02 05:23 | |
| oiaohm | wine found a few evil ways to cause pulseaudio to go what the hell that wine could have work with dmix and others. | May 02 05:23 |
| formic_ | literally | May 02 05:23 |
| scientes | formic_, indeed, today | May 02 05:24 |
| scientes | you can just use SIMD cpu instructions to do what the emu10k1 can do | May 02 05:24 |
| formic_ | my p5k-e motherboard had a 2 cent audio chip, sold 5 years ago | May 02 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: you're a fucktard. | May 02 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Like open two audio streams one at 48khz and one at 42khz | May 02 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | creative labs has never made a soundcard that has sounded good | May 02 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Normal alsa manages to pull that off. | May 02 05:24 |
| scientes | what are you an audiophile | May 02 05:24 |
| oiaohm | Somehow. | May 02 05:24 |
| formic_ | diablo-d3 the AWE-32 and AWE-64 | May 02 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, my ears just still work. | May 02 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | formic_: hell no | May 02 05:24 |
| formic_ | hell yeah | May 02 05:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | the first revisions of the sb16. | May 02 05:25 |
| formic_ | for MIDI anyway | May 02 05:25 |
| oiaohm | pulseaudio still take a evil and eats the cpu to death. | May 02 05:25 |
| oiaohm | And crashes. | May 02 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | they still could do native 44.1khz | May 02 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | anything after those switched to 48khz-only setups | May 02 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | good jorb creative labs | May 02 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | fucking morons | May 02 05:25 |
| formic_ | the awe-32 had SIMM's on it, gave it more instruments to use in MIDI | May 02 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, who the fuck cares | May 02 05:25 |
| formic_ | MIDI files sounded way better on an awe-32 or 64 | May 02 05:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | it sounded like shit compared to any dedicated midi module | May 02 05:26 |
| formic_ | well back in the 90s | May 02 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | let me rephrase | May 02 05:26 |
| scientes | yeah, but have you guys seen a MIDI guitar? | May 02 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | its ounded like shit compared to any dedicated midi module _from the 80s_ | May 02 05:26 |
| formic_ | my 386 couldnt handle mp3s | May 02 05:26 |
| scientes | you guys are funny | May 02 05:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | and it was raped by anything from the 90s | May 02 05:26 |
| scientes | so predictable what gets you guys worked up | May 02 05:27 |
| formic_ | my phone probably has a better audio chip than emu10k | May 02 05:27 |
| oiaohm | scientes: so you mean something like the Misa Digital Guitar? | May 02 05:28 |
| formic_ | I think I tossed out some old PCI soundblaster lives the other day | May 02 05:28 |
| oiaohm | If the sound card is inside the comptuer its crap. | May 02 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Computer cases have too much noise. | May 02 05:29 |
| cubezzz | yes but I want dos support for my old games :) | May 02 05:29 |
| cubezzz | for a while motherboards had sb emulation built-in | May 02 05:30 |
| cubezzz | I don't think any board has that now | May 02 05:31 |
| DaemonFC | a fast 386 should handle MP3 playback | May 02 05:31 |
| scientes | cubezzz, qemu-kvm has soundblaster 16bit emulation | May 02 05:31 |
| scientes | ' | May 02 05:31 |
| scientes | as does dosbox i believe | May 02 05:32 |
| DaemonFC | mpg123's win32 console version works under DOS with the HX DOS Extender | May 02 05:32 |
| cubezzz | ah, I run freedos for that mostly | May 02 05:32 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - noob | May 02 05:32 |
| formic_ | I had a 486 DX4 100Mhz that had issues playing mp3 files at full quality | May 02 05:32 |
| formic_ | I had to reduce the bitrate just to play them | May 02 05:33 |
| formic_ | so dont tell me it will work on a 386 | May 02 05:33 |
| formic_ | just cause ur compiler says i386 | May 02 05:33 |
| DaemonFC | worked for me | May 02 05:33 |
| formic_ | lies | May 02 05:33 |
| formic_ | that is literally impossible and I don't believe you | May 02 05:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQcjd9Nh87c | May 02 05:35 |
| formic_ | oh my god | May 02 05:37 |
| formic_ | thats awesome | May 02 05:37 |
| formic_ | umm..... kindle fire doesnt do ogg, wtf? | May 02 05:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | depends how you define kindle fire | May 02 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one bought kindle fires to use amazon's rom on them | May 02 05:38 |
| formic_ | the new tablet with android 2.3 | May 02 05:38 |
| formic_ | yeah their firmware sucks | May 02 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes I know what a kf is, I have one sitting infront of me | May 02 05:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | it runs ics. | May 02 05:38 |
| formic_ | i gotta put up with it till i get a usb cable | May 02 05:38 |
| formic_ | what rom did you use | May 02 05:38 |
| formic_ | reloaded? | May 02 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | you can install Android applications that handle Ogg Vorbis on the Kindle Fire | May 02 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | such as Winamp | May 02 05:39 |
| formic_ | winamp lol | May 02 05:40 |
| formic_ | you mean buy winamp? | May 02 05:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | atm? akop kf milestone 5 | May 02 05:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614004 | May 02 05:41 |
| oiaohm | formic_: I would not say its impossible for a 386 to play mp3. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lateplate/5680920640/ | May 02 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | you don't have to buy it | May 02 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.winamp.com/android | May 02 05:42 |
| formic_ | oiaohm - thats not a 386 | May 02 05:43 |
| oiaohm | formic_: that is weaker than 386 | May 02 05:43 |
| formic_ | no | May 02 05:44 |
| formic_ | BS | May 02 05:44 |
| oiaohm | formic_: buy a large margin. | May 02 05:44 |
| scientes | winamp!!!! | May 02 05:44 |
| formic_ | bullshit | May 02 05:44 |
| oiaohm | formic_: this that it has a media accelerator chip. | May 02 05:44 |
| formic_ | if it was weaker than 386, it wouldnt play mp3 | May 02 05:44 |
| *scientes use to use custom winamp 2 skins | May 02 05:44 | |
| oiaohm | formic_: cpu there is weaker than 386 | May 02 05:44 |
| scientes | before winamp3 came out with all its fancyness | May 02 05:44 |
| scientes | that destroyed the fun of making skins... | May 02 05:44 |
| formic_ | there is a chip then that decodes | May 02 05:45 |
| oiaohm | formic_: the mp3 is decoded by the media accelerator | May 02 05:45 |
| formic_ | yeah see | May 02 05:45 |
| formic_ | not the 386, the chip designed to decode mp3 audio | May 02 05:45 |
| oiaohm | formic_: there are media accelerator cards for a 386 | May 02 05:45 |
| formic_ | ISA ones? | May 02 05:45 |
| formic_ | 386's dont have PCI | May 02 05:45 |
| oiaohm | formic_: yes ISA ones. | May 02 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | you can still use Winamp 2 skins on Audacious can't you? | May 02 05:45 |
| scientes | lo, winamp | May 02 05:45 |
| formic_ | show me | May 02 05:45 |
| scientes | lol winamp | May 02 05:45 |
| formic_ | i think this is nonsense | May 02 05:45 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, you realize how limited winamp 2 interface is, right? | May 02 05:46 |
| oiaohm | formic_: its also like cdrom drives straight to sound card and other equally strange things back in the time of i386. | May 02 05:46 |
| formic_ | that wasnt strange | May 02 05:46 |
| oiaohm | formic_: because the CPU suxed. | May 02 05:46 |
| scientes | oh man, i remember i had the best winamp3 skin | May 02 05:46 |
| formic_ | a 386 could not handle playing a cd | May 02 05:47 |
| *scientes stayed with winamp3 for ages | May 02 05:47 | |
| formic_ | via cpu | May 02 05:47 |
| scientes | formic_, thats why there is a special cable to hook the cd player to the sound card | May 02 05:47 |
| oiaohm | formic_: yep so media accelerator chips were kinda important. | May 02 05:47 |
| oiaohm | formic_: mpeg2 video decoders and other evils existed as stand alone cards in time of 386. | May 02 05:47 |
| formic_ | the fastest 386 I can seem to find was a 40Mhz AMD one | May 02 05:48 |
| *scientes wants to run modern linux on a 486 | May 02 05:48 | |
| oiaohm | formic_: not imposible but requires the right card and lot of those mpeg2 decoder cards had no problem doing mp3. | May 02 05:48 |
| formic_ | oiaohm - I bet you that it could not handle 128k+ mp3's | May 02 05:49 |
| formic_ | or stereo | May 02 05:49 |
| oiaohm | formic_: first generate mp3 files. | May 02 05:49 |
| oiaohm | Lot did stereo | May 02 05:50 |
| scientes | oiaohm, you troll, you troll | May 02 05:50 |
| formic_ | yeah, generate hax mp3 files that are super low quality, mono and 22 khz? | May 02 05:50 |
| oiaohm | 8 bit left and right. | May 02 05:50 |
| oiaohm | formic_: super low quality stereo | May 02 05:50 |
| oiaohm | 44 something khz would play in them. | May 02 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Just not 16 bit | May 02 05:51 |
| cubezzz | I'd try it but my 486's isn't working :) | May 02 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Mp3 file that would call complete trash. formic_ | May 02 05:51 |
| oiaohm | formic_: but its still techically a mp3 file. | May 02 05:51 |
| cubezzz | bad design with built-in monitor :-/ | May 02 05:52 |
| scientes | use the source luke! | May 02 05:52 |
| DaemonFC | I stayed with the leaked 2.95 build for quite a while | May 02 05:52 |
| formic_ | I got a vid of someone playing an mp3 on a 40mhz 386, at 8000 Hz, 16 bit | May 02 05:52 |
| formic_ | which is retarded | May 02 05:52 |
| formic_ | tape probably had better quality | May 02 05:53 |
| cubezzz | stick with mid files on sloooow computers | May 02 05:53 |
| cubezzz | and even a stock amiga 500 can play mod files | May 02 05:53 |
| formic_ | oooo | May 02 05:53 |
| formic_ | MOD files :) | May 02 05:53 |
| formic_ | I had some good ones | May 02 05:54 |
| formic_ | i had this doom one, and a at&t phone hacker one | May 02 05:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan http://ur1.ca/95for | May 02 05:54 | |
| scientes | midi files :P | May 02 06:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] testing | May 02 06:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on an old Dell Inspiron. Works perfectly and surprisingly quick on such old hardware. #ubuntu | May 02 06:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] That's why I suggested making #copyright non-transferable except by inheritance - so the #creator would retain control | May 02 06:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wayneborean pshaw ... of we are going to have !copyright it should be non-transferable - period. | May 02 06:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Must See: Attorney Stanley Cohen defends #PayPal 14 http://wearelegionthedocumentary.com/2012/attorney-stanley-cohen-defends-the-paypal-14/ | May 02 06:51 | |
| formic_ | 01:04 < scientes> midi files :P | May 02 06:51 |
| formic_ | no, MOD files :P | May 02 06:51 |
| scientes | i was using a mac in those days | May 02 06:53 |
| formic_ | oh god | May 02 06:53 |
| scientes | I switched at amd k7 | May 02 06:53 |
| formic_ | oh god | May 02 06:53 |
| formic_ | that late eh | May 02 06:53 |
| scientes | it only had 32mb ram.... | May 02 06:54 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 02 06:54 |
| scientes | 133Mhz :P | May 02 06:54 |
| formic_ | k7? | May 02 06:54 |
| formic_ | no | May 02 06:54 |
| scientes | maybe k6 | May 02 06:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Apple refuses apps that use Dropbox. Where is my suprised face again? The reasons given by Apple are quite errr intere... http://b1t.it/boRa | May 02 06:54 | |
| formic_ | k6 probably | May 02 06:54 |
| formic_ | k6-2 went to 500mhz | May 02 06:55 |
| scientes | it was 400 Mhz | May 02 06:55 |
| scientes | yeah k6 | May 02 06:55 |
| formic_ | k6-2 | May 02 06:55 |
| formic_ | what a godaweful processor, i had one | May 02 06:55 |
| scientes | i remember using ie 5 on that thing | May 02 06:55 |
| scientes | what horrible software | May 02 06:55 |
| formic_ | I had received a k6-2 from my dad to replace a dead pentium 2 233mhz | May 02 06:55 |
| scientes | and download in like 5 bazillion download windows at the same time | May 02 06:55 |
| formic_ | the pentium was a lot better | May 02 06:56 |
| formic_ | I could play an mp3 file and run red alert 2 on the p2 | May 02 06:56 |
| formic_ | struggled on the k6-2 | May 02 06:56 |
| scientes | i use to play starcraft and half life on that hot rod :) | May 02 06:56 |
| scientes | wait, i dont think half life worked | May 02 06:57 |
| formic_ | by the time red alert 2 was out, starcraft 1 was crap | May 02 06:57 |
| scientes | meh, I still play starcraft.. | May 02 06:57 |
| scientes | well i havn't for a while | May 02 06:57 |
| scientes | but i played that game for YEARs | May 02 06:57 |
| formic_ | only starcraft I play is #2 | May 02 06:57 |
| scientes | never did get WC3 | May 02 06:57 |
| scientes | Then i moved to a duron 1Ghz | May 02 06:58 |
| formic_ | Red alert 2, I played that game for years | May 02 06:58 |
| formic_ | yuri's revenge | May 02 06:58 |
| scientes | i always thought blizzard was the only one that could make a decent RTS game | May 02 06:58 |
| formic_ | made my own mods | May 02 06:58 |
| scientes | that wasnt simulation based | May 02 06:58 |
| formic_ | nah, westwood was way better | May 02 06:58 |
| formic_ | command and conquer | May 02 06:58 |
| scientes | I had C&C ra2 | May 02 06:58 |
| scientes | and i hated it | May 02 06:58 |
| scientes | went right back to starcraft | May 02 06:59 |
| formic_ | lol why | May 02 06:59 |
| scientes | it just wan't as polisthed IMHO | May 02 06:59 |
| formic_ | ROFL | May 02 06:59 |
| scientes | same with Age of Empire | May 02 06:59 |
| formic_ | starcraft doesnt even support a higher resolution than 640x480 | May 02 06:59 |
| formic_ | that must have been fun | May 02 06:59 |
| scientes | yeah but starcraft is so polished | May 02 06:59 |
| formic_ | yeah but the gameplay sucks | May 02 07:00 |
| formic_ | so do the players | May 02 07:00 |
| scientes | cause every race is fundamentally differn't | May 02 07:00 |
| formic_ | they're all assholes | May 02 07:00 |
| scientes | meh i played lan mostly | May 02 07:00 |
| formic_ | lol i played coop on starcraft 2, the person on my team killed me | May 02 07:00 |
| scientes | or the custom maps | May 02 07:00 |
| formic_ | they didnt want to 'carry me' in an unranked game against AI | May 02 07:01 |
| formic_ | im looking forward to Generals 2 | May 02 07:01 |
| formic_ | C&C3 kicked a lot of ass too | May 02 07:02 |
| formic_ | generals 1, emporer: battle for dune, etc :) | May 02 07:03 |
| scientes | I had dune too | May 02 07:03 |
| scientes | sucked ass IMHO | May 02 07:03 |
| formic_ | I think you'd appreciate these games more if you didn't come from Apple | May 02 07:06 |
| scientes | WUT? | May 02 07:06 |
| formic_ | Blizzard are like the only major dev to make Apple stuff | May 02 07:06 |
| formic_ | No C&C for mac | May 02 07:06 |
| scientes | there was nothing on that ancient OS 8 machine | May 02 07:06 |
| formic_ | sure there was warcraft 2 | May 02 07:07 |
| formic_ | starcraft | May 02 07:08 |
| scientes | i didn't play wc2 till way after starcraft | May 02 07:09 |
| scientes | and only ever on windows | May 02 07:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Agreed. But the major #corporations hate my suggestion. They want to control all #copyright works and to hell with the #creators | May 02 07:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone else lacking reformist credentials want to leave @chungwamoja? Feel free to leave. We won't stop you #MudDivideAndRule !kenya | May 02 09:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I like the way the new @chungwamoja is shaping up as party of reformers mostly. Old #Moi cohorts not good company. #odm #MuDivideAndRule | May 02 09:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Sad "@PhillipOgola: #Chelsea fan stabbed to death hrs after #manchesterderby in Nairobi #inthepapers" !football !Kenya | May 02 10:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Later 'gators got a virtual party to attend. #g+ | May 02 10:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Fabian Scherschel http://ur1.ca/95h3p | May 02 10:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Po co kary? Napisze sie ustawe ze starczy sie wyspowiadac." bit.ly/Je3vZC | May 02 10:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As a bit of a dinosaur in technology (I still use a Palm PDA and single- or dual-core AMD), backward compatibility and http://ur1.ca/95h3a | May 02 10:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New blog post: BREAKING: European Court decision. Oracle and Google should note. http://ur1.ca/95h5z | May 02 10:41 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BREAKING: European Court decision. Oracle and Google should note. | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 15.02 KB | May 02 10:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @jwildeboer New blog post: BREAKING: European Court decision. Oracle and Google should note. http://ur1.ca/95h5z | May 02 10:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] UE: Am putea plăti 160 mld. euro pe şanţuri ca să avem net rapid http://ur1.ca/95h6t #europe #eu #romania #internet #isp | May 02 10:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UE: Am putea plăti 160 mld. euro pe şanţuri ca să avem net rapid | Ziarul Financiar .::. Size~: 53.21 KB | May 02 10:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] διαδώστε το - "Η διαπόμπευση ως κοινωνική προσφορά, ο εκφασισμός ως επένδυση" http://identi.ca/url/69398547 | May 02 10:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Carlo Piana http://ur1.ca/95h8o | May 02 10:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Acum douăzeci de ani, de Paște (Facebook link) http://ur1.ca/95h94 #romania #monarchy #rege #royal | May 02 11:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Microsoft products banned from German market! - http://is.gd/LFLLdp #microsoft #xbox360 #mvp #mvpbuzz | May 02 11:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] New Blog entry: why SAS v WPL EU decision is extremely important and should be seen in the context of Oracle v Google.... http://b1t.it/boVs | May 02 11:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ Je mag me altijd meenemen naar dat feestje | May 02 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartRosseau jup! Jij ook? Trein? | May 02 11:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BartRosseau Bedankt! | May 02 11:29 | |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, got a question for you... | May 02 11:33 |
| cubezzz | why can't I find anything inbetween krubik (KDE 1.0.X) and kubrick (KDE 4.X)? | May 02 11:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @ghodmode Ghodmode: http://t.co/4QcOsuyK Google Drive for Linux Is on the Way | PCWorld Business Center http://t.co/nCiJn8bT | May 02 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Gmail is down. Sucks. | May 02 11:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Drive for Linux Is on the Way | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.67 KB | May 02 11:34 |
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| oiaohm | cubezzz: there is a chance there is nothing in the middle. | May 02 11:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @crosbie http://ur1.ca/95hi1 "Bypass ISPs Filters to Access The Pirate Bay" #TPB | May 02 11:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Gmail is still down. Thank God I got my @netivity mail. #winning | May 02 11:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @davelee: Motorola wins injunction against distribution of Xbox 360, Windows 7 and IE in Germany. Big, big story. L... http://b1t.it/boV8 | May 02 11:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Megaupload Prosecution Is Lawless and Unconstitutional, Law Professor Says http://identi.ca/url/69399703 | May 02 12:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Despite the swiftly-growing economy around 72 per cent of Angolans live on less than $2 a day. Can they afford 4G high-speed Internet?" | May 02 12:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just added you to my circles @jwesonga. Never knew you were a googler. Suspected it though. | May 02 12:09 | |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: lot of the kde world works from the idea if it is not broken don't fix it. | May 02 12:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice 3.5.3 with record number of new contributors released: http://ur1.ca/95hna | May 02 12:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @docufoundation LibreOffice 3.5.3 with record number of new contributors released: http://ur1.ca/95hna | May 02 12:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Resigned to the fact that my daughters will have daddy issues. #notfunny | May 02 12:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Baby momma won't let me post photos of 'em online. Afraid they'll "end up in the wrong places" | May 02 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Oh to be a 21st Century baby. Your 1st birthday is a G+ Hangout, attended by folks on 3 continents. | May 02 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] @nj3ma afternoon dude. !tzag !identiverse! | May 02 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @docufoundation " #LibreOffice 3.5.3 with record number of new contributors released: http://ur1.ca/95hna " | May 02 12:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @eebrah Afternoon. You got mail. | May 02 12:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @openbytes Microsoft products banned from German market! - http://is.gd/LFLLdp #microsoft #xbox360 #mvp #mvpbuzz | May 02 12:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Later 'gators! | May 02 12:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff BREAKING: @Mozilla slams #CISPA, says the bill "infringes on our privacy." https://eff.org/r.a6ab | May 02 12:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Motorola wins Xbox and Windows 7 ban in Germany" http://ur1.ca/95htx http://ur1.ca/95htx | May 02 12:48 | |
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| oiaohm | Really I wonder how MS will take this. | May 02 12:48 |
| cubezzz | live by the sword, die by the sword :) | May 02 12:53 |
| iophk | Though the Sony products are worlds better, the company is not a good choice. That leaves Nintendo. | May 02 13:03 |
| oiaohm | iophk: Microsoft could be screwed. | May 02 13:07 |
| oiaohm | iophk: remember google is behind motorola and microsoft techically broke motorola frand terms that are not too bad. | May 02 13:07 |
| oiaohm | iophk: ie you cannot use our patents if you attempt to block our products from sale. | May 02 13:08 |
| oiaohm | iophk: so as long as you don't attempt that you can use the motorola patents without charge. | May 02 13:08 |
| oiaohm | iophk: does not block you from taking motorola to court for payment of patents. | May 02 13:09 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I think motorola conditions are quite fair. | May 02 13:09 |
| iophk | It would be nice if the ban holds for long enough that other products take up the slack. Neither were contenders for market leader though. | May 02 13:09 |
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| oiaohm | iophk: anything containing internet explorer is banned. | May 02 13:10 |
| oiaohm | iophk: lets just say motorola did not miss. | May 02 13:10 |
| oiaohm | iophk: that is all MS server products. | May 02 13:11 |
| iophk | If MSIE is banned that might make up for the miserable excuse called the browser ballot. | May 02 13:11 |
| oiaohm | Ie 2008 server cannot be sold by the ban motorola may get to enforce as well. | May 02 13:12 |
| oiaohm | No OS of Microsoft will be sellable until MS can settle. | May 02 13:12 |
| iophk | I hope Red Hat and Canonical can pounce on that server space. | May 02 13:12 |
| oiaohm | Next stop is USA courts a win there is basically global ban. | May 02 13:12 |
| cubezzz | hurray? | May 02 13:12 |
| cubezzz | can we get that for Canada? :) | May 02 13:13 |
| oiaohm | 7 of this month we find out if motorolla will be allowed to switch this club. | May 02 13:13 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: USA is Microsoft parteent company. | May 02 13:13 |
| oiaohm | It banned from allowing shipping is global no shipping. | May 02 13:13 |
| oiaohm | All that talk about Microsoft going to make income from android from patents. | May 02 13:14 |
| oiaohm | This threats to take all that income plus lots lots more back. | May 02 13:14 |
| oiaohm | cubezzz: this is true live by the sword die by the sword. MS lose MS stuffed. | May 02 13:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Motorola wins Xbox and Windows 7 ban in Germany" http://ur1.ca/95htx -[UPDATE] Injunction can... http://b1t.it/boW3 | May 02 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My score is 74. #justsayin http://ur1.ca/95i7h http://ur1.ca/95i7h | May 02 13:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Top 7 Ubuntu Desktop Backup Software http://goo.gl/46nuk #gnulinux #flosstools | May 02 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Pile of paperwork and places to go to for stamps and cerifications to get myself a visum for Saudi Arabia. Hrmpf. | May 02 13:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Voice Of The Kernel (the ultimate #linux #geek album) re-released as a single tar.gz file: http://is.gd/Iq1Wgx license http://is.gd/hCGz0o | May 02 13:36 | |
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| iophk | WTF: "A US court has banned Motorola from enforcing the action until it considers the matter next week." — banned from enforcing a German decision? It would be good for both countries to enforce it. | May 02 13:37 |
| oiaohm | iophk: if they win in the US court is global. | May 02 13:39 |
| oiaohm | iophk: so next week MS is either off the hook or screwed. | May 02 13:40 |
| oiaohm | iophk: this is the first time the terms of a Frand are getting tested in court. | May 02 13:40 |
| oiaohm | iophk: microsoft is trying to claim that motorola condition in its frand that you cannot block their products from sale are abuse of power. | May 02 13:41 |
| oiaohm | iophk: it was blocking motorola products from sale to try to force them to pay up on android that set off the motorola patent attack. | May 02 13:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Voice Of The Kernel includes my Trance/Club version of "The Free Software Song" feat. Richard M. Stallman voice samples! #freemusic | May 02 13:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] The Title song of "Voice Of The Kernel" includes a snippet of /var/log/messages spoken /w Gespeaker #geek or not to be geek ;-) #freemusic | May 02 13:43 | |
| oiaohm | iophk:If that motorola protection is up held it goes to all users of android as well. | May 02 13:43 |
| oiaohm | iophk: effectivelly locking MS and apple legal teams up. | May 02 13:43 |
| iophk | Interesting | May 02 13:44 |
| iophk | Too bad Meego is out of the picture. | May 02 13:44 |
| oiaohm | tizen is still alive. | May 02 13:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] There's a plugin called TwitterBridge. | May 02 13:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Awesome official press release of EU court at http://ur1.ca/95ic3... http://b1t.it/boYs | May 02 13:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I agree, but setting up mobile phone services is very expensive. | May 02 13:44 | |
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| iophk | Tizen is alive but from what I gather it is very far from other linux distros. | May 02 13:45 |
| oiaohm | iophk: does that really matter. | May 02 13:46 |
| iophk | It would make it easier to develop apps for it. | May 02 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Tizen is staying standard kernel. And prity much standard kms and dri2 | May 02 13:47 |
| oiaohm | So running other distributions inside should be possible without any major headaches. | May 02 13:47 |
| oiaohm | Particularlly with systemd distributions becoming cgroup and chroot aware. | May 02 13:47 |
| iophk | What phones are there with Tizen? | May 02 13:48 |
| oiaohm | iophk: not been announced yet. | May 02 13:49 |
| iophk | Samsung "might" have a Tizen device this year: http://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabethwoyke/2012/01/13/samsung-merging-its-bada-os-with-intel-backed-tizen-project/2/ | May 02 13:50 |
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| iophk | but nothing solid announced | May 02 13:50 |
| oiaohm | iophk: and it will most likely be a TV or something else not phone. | May 02 13:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] BOOO | May 02 13:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Hey, you're at LGM? Is it happening this week? I totally haven't been paying attention. How do I crash the party? | May 02 13:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Err, wait :-) http://ur1.ca/95ido ... http://b1t.it/boYy | May 02 13:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Do you use @CreativeCommons licenses? | http://red.ht/IA7FQ4 | May 02 14:04 | |
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| iophk | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-05-02/motorola-mobility-wins-german-ruling-on-windows-xbox | May 02 14:07 |
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| iophk | http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2012/05/02/motorola-wins-german-ban-on-windows-7-xbox-360-40155142/ | May 02 14:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] TOP 5: Cele mai bune telefoane Android http://ur1.ca/95ije #android #romania #gnu #linux #cellphones | May 02 14:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] System 76 Launches Ubuntu 12.04 Laptops http://ur1.ca/95ijk #gnu #linux #hardware #ubuntu #laptop | May 02 14:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Huge rise in ebook sales offsets decline in printed titles http://gu.com/p/379mv latest in the copyright mafia shills pieces | May 02 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @evan that can only protect downstream, not sidestream. unless it's so compelling that sidestream dries out, of course | May 02 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] CD sales are up, but they come at the expense of cassette & LP sales | May 02 14:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] perhaps if a tiny digital file that creates itself when you buy didn't cost more than a printed hardback, more people would buy them | May 02 14:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Listening to @Palinuro at Flemish #opendata meeting #okfn @okfnbe | May 02 14:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Copyright Can't Block Software Reverse Engineering" http://ur1.ca/95il1... http://b1t.it/boZq | May 02 14:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Okay, seen Iron Sky the second time. You know what? It was as good as the first time around. ;) | May 02 14:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cardinal Brady will not resign over 'abuse failure' http://goo.gl/Kf4TK of course not | May 02 14:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] E-book sales grew by 54% in 2011 http://goo.gl/5QyS7 | May 02 14:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Poettering: The Most Awesome, Least-Advertised Fedora 17 Feature http://ur1.ca/95in4 | May 02 14:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @thistleweb E-book sales grew by 54% in 2011 http://goo.gl/5QyS7 | May 02 14:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] UK Tabloid Known For Publishing Naked Photos Complains About The Harm Of Porn Online http://goo.gl/2fnF6 | May 02 14:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @dennisgut: #ACTA Makes It Very Dangerous To Be Online http://ur1.ca/95iow #freedom | May 02 14:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a UK e-petition that calls for any porn filter to include the #Sun & #DailyMail sites; then demand those rags promote it | May 02 14:59 | |
| iophk | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57425924-94/nokia-cites-45-patents-in-lawsuits-against-htc-rim-viewsonic/ | May 02 15:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when they don't you question if their whole "think of the children" shtick was even remotely genuine #Sun #DailyMail | May 02 15:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Roche: From oversight to insight by Paul Lambert - @roche_com | http://red.ht/IA7Quw #hackmanagement | May 02 15:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oops. My blog entry on SAS now on front page of http://ur1.ca/26wi2 - hope my poor litlle vServer can han... http://b1t.it/bo0g | May 02 15:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Oracle and the End of Programming As We Know It" http://identi.ca/url/69383702 | May 02 15:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] After legal tussle, Google beats Microsoft for large US contract http://ur1.ca/95irs #google #microsoft #virtualization #us | May 02 15:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 7 Reasons to Like and Dislike Ubuntu Unity http://ur1.ca/95i92 #gnu #linux #ubuntu #unity | May 02 15:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Tramwaj Filozoficzny!! :D bit.ly/KMTYN7 | May 02 15:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] IBM’s SugarCRM Deal Is a Sweet Sign for Commercial Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/95itz #ibm #sugarcrm #crm #foss | May 02 15:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from OpenShift http://ur1.ca/95iyb | May 02 15:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Network censorship scheme ruled unconstitutional. In Pakistan. UK, are you watching this? bit.ly/ITzXQg | May 02 15:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dyfet/@dyfet] It seems #nokia plan b is patent trolling and extortion. #fail | May 02 15:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google pitches SPDY for mobile networks (Google development blog): http://bit.ly/ITAvpg | May 02 15:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google BigQuery now available to all (Google): http://bit.ly/JSXW6E | May 02 15:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] any company considering partnering with #Microsoft may as well announce the birth of a new #patent troll in the PR statement | May 02 15:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/business/30aldi.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all | May 02 15:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Nobody is out picketing ALDI because you could live on what ALDI pays | May 02 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | you can't live on what Walmart pays most of the people who keep their stores running, and their prices are still way too high | May 02 15:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh, cool. I've never been but I'm always happy when Libre folks come to Montreal. This year, I guess, not so much. | May 02 15:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Linux is a computer with benefits #fb | May 02 15:54 | |
| DaemonFC | the difference with Walmart v. ALDI on the grocery bill is easily $20 or more for each person, per month | May 02 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | and that's even if you went through Walmart buying nothing but their store brand stuff | May 02 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | you get a family of four and the difference is about $1,000 a year | May 02 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @dyfet what makes you think that wasn't plan A all along? | May 02 15:56 | |
| DaemonFC | and while Walmart's grocery prices are higher, their quality is not, and they're paying most of their employees not much more than minimum wage | May 02 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | it's a disgrace | May 02 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart should be driven out before it manages to break ground, or your town is heading for ruin | May 02 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @dyfet MS has a long history of getting others to get their hands dirty trolling for MS's benefit | May 02 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] illow Garage was created by former Google employees with a talent in robotics. The Willow Garage Web site links to this http://ur1.ca/95j0l | May 02 16:08 | |
| formic_ | omg trying to get this stupid kindle to get detected by kfu | May 02 16:08 |
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| DaemonFC | formic_: The worst design decision in Android is probably the usage of MTP | May 02 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it makes sense if you don't care that non-Windows users will ever have to deal with it | May 02 16:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Philipp Sickmann http://ur1.ca/95j4r | May 02 16:14 | |
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| formic_ | apparently you need windows to replace the firmware on the kindle | May 02 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | no | May 02 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | you only need google's android platform tools | May 02 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | I did it entirely on linux | May 02 16:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] After legal tussle, Google beats Microsoft for large US contract http://is.gd/TZbX0n #microsoft #google #mvp #mvpbuzz | May 02 16:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @cwebber And a GnuShift thats main purpose is to AGPL the codebase wouldn't win friends to AGPL, would probably even alienate friends ... | May 02 16:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I love all forms of Free Software, but I oppose giving up copyleft defenses without strong evidence it will achieve more freedom | May 02 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana yeah, thank you! even OSI, whose defn obsesses about properties of licenses, goes beyond that in some bullets | May 02 16:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] No thanks Barnes and Noble - My mother deserves better than a product from a company that signs up with #microsoft http://is.gd/VUM5GN | May 02 16:31 | |
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| iophk | http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/operating_systems/232901310 | May 02 16:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I (&FSF) agree it may be in some cases, but that doesn't make it so in all cases, let alone without plausible evidence | May 02 16:33 | |
| iophk | I don't see how a judge in the US can rule over a decision made in Germany. Motorola can go ahead with the ban on Vista7 and co. | May 02 16:33 |
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| DaemonFC | iophk: It means that to comply with one order, they'd have to violate the other one | May 02 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | I'd go ahead and violate the US order and then take it to an appeals court on the grounds that the court had no right to decide what I could do in Germany | May 02 16:35 |
| iophk | I don't see how the orders are relevant to each other. Motorola is free to block Vista7 in Germany and not free to block it in the US. The legal systems are separate | May 02 16:36 |
| iophk | ^not free to block it in the US. | May 02 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | you'd think, but that's not always the case | May 02 16:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk yes, it has taken away copyleft defenses. that's damage regardless of other benefits that may arise | May 02 16:36 | |
| DaemonFC | consider the US laws against soliciting a prostitute in another country, even if it doesn't violate the laws of that country | May 02 16:36 |
| iophk | The wikipedia page on Motorola lists it at being based in the US. However, it must have a European branch | May 02 16:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I listened to a knockoff Tom Waits singing a rehash of an old meme for 79.8 seconds. #nyanwaits http://nyanwaits.com/ ... http://b1t.it/bo2t | May 02 16:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think that's a great idea. | May 02 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Free Internet lessons challenge textbook market for public schools: http://wapo.st/IjcOGs #OER in @washingtonpost | May 02 16:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Persecution! ♻ @telecomix: The Church of #Kopimi Denied the Right to Legally Wed http://t.co/7U9HBLzg (swe http://t.co/Yq1E82i1 ) | May 02 17:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @pkazmierczak: Google is making a huge and annoying mistake. http://t.co/Qovz1W6O | May 02 17:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Jimmy Wales to help UK govt with #openaccess to research: http://bit.ly/Ip9LP6 | May 02 17:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk I'm speaking of a defense against freedom-depriving abuse, not any random feature. rendering one defenseless is damaging in my book | May 02 17:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We updated our @Kickstarter page w/2 awesome new projects: http://ur1.ca/3tuhl Help support them! | May 02 17:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Link: bit.ly/JD6NrZ ♻ @sazius: That reminded me to buy Iron Sky OST by Laibach :-) (Just got it DRM-free from 7digital.) | May 02 17:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pirate Bay Enjoys 12 Million Traffic Boost, Shares Unblocking Tips http://goo.gl/sybqQ | May 02 17:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Sony Put Video Service on Hold Due to #Comcast Data Caps http://goo.gl/F6DMF modern innovation at work | May 02 17:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple Rejecting Apps That Use #Dropbox Because *Gasp!* Users Might Sign Up For Dropbox Accounts http://goo.gl/GsQ5r | May 02 17:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana there are various other kinds of legal, technical, social, etc obstacles to freedom, even when it comes to software | May 02 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana I wish more FLOSS proponents would see that. too bad OSI didn't expand Perens' criteria like Debian did | May 02 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Question: are there really four freedoms if you start counting from zero? Discuss. | May 02 17:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana hey, Spherical Cow is a major leap compared with Beefy Miracle :-) it's science vs religion, if equally nons(ci)ensical | May 02 17:31 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120501/15580518732/fbi-stops-yet-another-yes-another-its-own-terrorist-plots-this-time-anarchists.shtml | May 02 17:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana sure, just like a dog still has 4 legs, even if you (mis)count the tail as a leg and get to a different number ;-) | May 02 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Opinie: Ce-i de făcut http://ur1.ca/95jkz #druncea #romania #monarchy #royal #politics | May 02 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regele Mihai și Crin Antonescu http://ur1.ca/95jl6 #romania #royal #monarchy #politics #antonescu #rege | May 02 17:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it possible to manually lock the sliding toolbar at the top of #Scribes? the way it triggers is driving me insane | May 02 17:46 | |
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| *DaemonFC is listening to Peacemaker by Green Day on 21st Century Breakdown [Amarok] | May 02 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the toolbar is hell bent on COVERING the first few lines at the slightest provocatiion, #Scribes is fucking infuriating | May 02 17:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Public sector saves £28 million through open access, but much greater rewards to come, says report from @JISC - http://goo.gl/035wA #OA | May 02 17:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Mozilla Slams CISPA, Breaking Silicon Valley's Silence On Cybersecurity Bill http://ur1.ca/95jow #mozilla #cispa | May 02 17:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How To Install Ubuntu 12.04 On Non-PAE Capable Hardware http://ur1.ca/95jpj #ubuntu #gnu #linux | May 02 17:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The entertainment industries helped create copyright trolls. Now what will they do to help protect you? https://eff.org/r.2aaa | May 02 18:03 | |
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| formic_ | diablod3 - got it installed | May 02 18:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @sirmacik: Dzieje się znów z !ACTA w Polsce i to dość ciekawie, news z sejmu za Jarosławem Lipszycem: bit.ly/JpBXhO | May 02 18:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] “The Black Library - Emperor's Gift, The”: http://ur1.ca/95jqp - Purchased this today! | May 02 18:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] New Firefox design will offer uniform look across desktop and mobile http://ur1.ca/95jr6 #mozilla #firefox #design | May 02 18:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Miro 5 released with more synchronisation options - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/dxAZ3 #floss | May 02 18:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] OpenBSD 5.1 released - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/NNLCP #floss #bsd | May 02 18:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Firefox add-on exposes visited URLs - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/4fCKO #security | May 02 18:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Heb #Anonymous (We Are Legion) op NuJij gezet http://is.gd/pBRBhg hoop op een interessante #geek discussie ;-) | May 02 18:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | [13:09] <DaemonFC> It doesn't inspire confidence, for me, that the major maintainers of Webkit all want to stuff HTML 5 with DRM | May 02 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | [13:10] <DaemonFC> I think at some point, just letting sites think you're Safari or Chrome just because you use Webkit will backfire. At first it may just be because you don't support MPEG-4, but then it will come to a point where the site expects that you'll be able to handle the HTML 5 DRM that Google is trying to add, and then what do you do? | May 02 18:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Als Maastrichtse Homo ben ik uiteraard apetrots op Onno Hoes, maar deze #weetpas gekte zuigt! #gay #gaykrant Legalize It! | May 02 18:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/95juo | May 02 18:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Parabéns ao #PingoDoce - Cachimbo de Magritte http://goo.gl/ebFof #pt | May 02 18:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !cyanogenmod 9 available for the Samsung Galaxy Note http://ur1.ca/95jvw /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @manuel254 !android | May 02 18:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] New #Firefox design will offer uniform look across desktop and mobile http://goo.gl/g0Hmi | May 02 18:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Free as in awesome: our favorite open source apps for Ubuntu 12.04 http://goo.gl/PEDG3 #gnulinux | May 02 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thebluewalrus Welcome to my bro for the great jay-z keeps stealing ur lyrics for 15yrs. Rip biggie smalls | May 02 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] A report from the Linux Audio Conference http://ur1.ca/95k52 | May 02 18:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @reality Are you processing a list today ? | May 02 18:58 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | May 02 19:02 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: hey scottish friend talking about gross insects | May 02 19:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Meet EFF Director for International Freedom of Expression @jilliancyork in Berlin on Friday! https://eff.org/r.1ZJ | May 02 19:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Groklaw - #EU Court of Justice: No #Copyright on Computer Functionality or Computer Languages ~pj http://goo.gl/zesEQ COOL! | May 02 19:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | my cousin gave up on trying to get her iphone 4s to work right | May 02 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | said she took my advice and got an Android phone | May 02 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T refunded her iphone as bill credit | May 02 19:10 |
| MinceR | the only way to get a hypePhone to work right | May 02 19:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Still no verdict from the jury in Oracle v Google? | May 02 19:11 | |
| formic_ | 14:09 < DaemonFC> my cousin gave up on trying to get her iphone 4s to work right | May 02 19:13 |
| formic_ | she must have a double digit IQ | May 02 19:13 |
| formic_ | iOS is too easy | May 02 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | dropping calls, turning itself off whenever it felt like it? | May 02 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | how do you fix that? | May 02 19:15 |
| ThistleWeb | they/re just being affecionate | May 02 19:15 |
| formic_ | get a new one | May 02 19:15 |
| ThistleWeb | in very large numbers......at the same time | May 02 19:15 |
| formic_ | obviously defective | May 02 19:15 |
| MinceR | could be triple digit | May 02 19:15 |
| formic_ | they're not *all* defective | May 02 19:15 |
| MinceR | well, what wozo did was to get a real phone and use it as backup. but your cousin's method is superior. | May 02 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | the GUI isn't the problem of the iphone | May 02 19:16 |
| formic_ | i could point out that the kindle android firmware is just as bad or worse | May 02 19:16 |
| formic_ | the amazon firmware | May 02 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | the problem with iOS is due to Apple's ridiculous app store policies and Apple not fessing up to hardware defects | May 02 19:16 |
| formic_ | my only problem with apple is their lock down | May 02 19:16 |
| formic_ | im not going to make up stories about defects that only exist on lemons | May 02 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | if you care what your customers think about you, you step up and admit you fucked up | May 02 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | and fix it | May 02 19:17 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - that single unit was a dud | May 02 19:17 |
| formic_ | doesnt mean they are all the same | May 02 19:17 |
| MinceR | like all the others | May 02 19:17 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 02 19:17 |
| formic_ | thats PURE zeal | May 02 19:17 |
| MinceR | sure | May 02 19:17 |
| MinceR | only a few units have the badly designed antenna, for example, right? | May 02 19:18 |
| formic_ | I have iOS *and* android hardware | May 02 19:18 |
| MinceR | (which no other phone has, by the way) | May 02 19:18 |
| formic_ | android phones have no issues? | May 02 19:18 |
| MinceR | android phones have reasonable antennas | May 02 19:18 |
| formic_ | what about carrieriq (spyware) or the fact that android has anti virus? | May 02 19:18 |
| MinceR | not ones that come into galvanic connection with the user by design | May 02 19:18 |
| formic_ | not all of them | May 02 19:18 |
| formic_ | what about HTC | May 02 19:19 |
| MinceR | who's zealously defending the indefensible, now? | May 02 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | people will be a lot more willing to forgive a manufacturing defect than a company that won't fix the problem they caused and saddles the customer with a brick that cost hundreds of dollars (or more) | May 02 19:19 |
| formic_ | mincer - nobody is? | May 02 19:19 |
| MinceR | keep telling yourself that | May 02 19:19 |
| formic_ | im loving my kindle, but for average joe to get it setup the way I do - is nearly impossible | May 02 19:20 |
| formic_ | I can't tell grandma to root her device and replace the rom image | May 02 19:20 |
| formic_ | shes left with shitty amazondroid | May 02 19:20 |
| formic_ | others are stuck with motoblur | May 02 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Apple typically lets retailers eat the cost of defective Apple products | May 02 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US sells out a Chinese human rights activist to smooth over a vist from #HilaryClinton http://goo.gl/tAWJC #LandOfTheFree | May 02 19:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @windigo: "...let us reaffirm our allegiance to the United States of America, our Constitution, and our founding values." You first, Mr. P | May 02 19:21 | |
| formic_ | why are 90% of android users running an obsolete os? | May 02 19:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Blind Chinese dissident speaks exclusively to Channel 4 News - Channel 4 News .::. Size~: 33.92 KB | May 02 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | they make Walmart write off returns of defective ipods and ipads | May 02 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | that tells you what kind of a position they're in, if they get to bully Walmart | May 02 19:22 |
| formic_ | http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html | May 02 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Platform Versions | Android Developers .::. Size~: 39.97 KB | May 02 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | usually it's Walmart making suppliers eat the cost of all the returns | May 02 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | even if it wasn't the supplier's fault | May 02 19:22 |
| formic_ | for version 4.0, only ~4.4% are using it | May 02 19:23 |
| *Guest16197 is now known as eebrah | May 02 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is a #MissWorld competition for horses like electing a mare? #elections #politics | May 02 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC | that's the manufacturer's fault | May 02 19:23 |
| formic_ | 63.9% of android users are on android 2.3 | May 02 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | switch to a manufacturer that promises upgrades | May 02 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | also, Kindle Fire is Android 2.3-based | May 02 19:23 |
| formic_ | which is 4.4%, minus the people who figured out how to root | May 02 19:23 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Or run CyanogenMod | May 02 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | so it will turn up in those stats even though most people just use it as a dumb terminal for Amazon products | May 02 19:24 |
| formic_ | my kindle fire is running 4.0 | May 02 19:24 |
| MinceR | yeah, no devices are being sold with android 4.x, no sir | May 02 19:24 |
| formic_ | i had to hack the shit out of it | May 02 19:24 |
| MinceR | for example, the samsung galaxy nexus doesn't exist | May 02 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | mine came with 3.2, but upgraded to 4.0 | May 02 19:24 |
| formic_ | 14:23 <@MinceR> yeah, no devices are being sold with android 4.x, no sir | May 02 19:24 |
| formic_ | theres a small few | May 02 19:24 |
| formic_ | they should all be the latest | May 02 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | I emailed Archos before I bought it | May 02 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | and asked if they were planning an Android 4 firmware upgrade | May 02 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | gee, there's a thought | May 02 19:25 |
| formic_ | non techies won't figure out how to root, or figure out how to install an alternative rom | May 02 19:25 |
| XFaCE | formic_: it's not that hard | May 02 19:25 |
| XFaCE | It requires reading instructions sure, and that can be so hard, reading. | May 02 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Archos plans to offer KDE Plasma Active as an alternate firmware eventually anyway | May 02 19:26 |
| eebrah | "<XFaCE> It requires reading instructions sure, and that can be so hard, reading." | May 02 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | I might not stay with Android if they do that | May 02 19:27 |
| MinceR | it would be especially hard for hypeOS users | May 02 19:27 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Don't worry, they have their own alternative firmware from Apple! Uhhhh... | May 02 19:27 |
| MinceR | lol | May 02 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | it's looking like Kubuntu is going to be the most popular Plasma Active distribution | May 02 19:27 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Well that's a shame | May 02 19:28 |
| formic_ | 14:25 < XFaCE> formic_: it's not that hard | May 02 19:28 |
| formic_ | 14:26 < XFaCE> It requires reading instructions sure, and that can be so hard, reading. | May 02 19:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Russian Lake Vostok Scientists Say “New Ice Age Is Unavoidable” http://goo.gl/KoM49 #agw #ecotretas | May 02 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF tells 9th Circuit its time to make warrantless home video surveillance extinct https://eff.org/r.3aac | May 02 19:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Russian Lake Vostok Scientists Say “New Ice Age Is Unavoidable” .::. Size~: 54.79 KB | May 02 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Time to Make Warrantless Home Video Surveillance Extinct | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.97 KB | May 02 19:28 |
| formic_ | if you can find decent instructions that are detailed | May 02 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: Not really. Blue Systems will be supporting it by then. | May 02 19:28 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Yeah, but you overlook something big | May 02 19:28 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: It's Ubuntu | May 02 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | so? | May 02 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | the core system is basically Debian | May 02 19:29 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Err, weren't you going on an anti-Ubuntu tirade not that long ago? | May 02 19:29 |
| formic_ | 14:27 < DaemonFC> it's looking like Kubuntu is going to be the most popular Plasma Active distrib | May 02 19:29 |
| formic_ | ution | May 02 19:29 |
| formic_ | pffft | May 02 19:29 |
| formic_ | kubuntu breaks kde all the time | May 02 19:29 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Aren't you the one who antagonizes Jono all the time? | May 02 19:29 |
| XFaCE | jono: Amirite? | May 02 19:29 |
| formic_ | xface - daemonfc is interesting.... he hates ubuntu and uses it, he hates proprietary hardware drivers and uses them | May 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Their kernel team isn't grossly incompetent | May 02 19:30 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Canonical said they wouldn't do kernel work... | May 02 19:30 |
| MinceR | might be the reason :> | May 02 19:30 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: ah | May 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | they maintain kernels for their distribution | May 02 19:30 |
| formic_ | daemonfc acts like hes the type of person to run trisquel, but really runs ubuntu with all of the non free software he can | May 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | their modifications mostly amount to making AppArmor work right and cherry picking upstream kernel patches | May 02 19:31 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Are you in love with jono now? | May 02 19:31 |
| formic_ | daemonfc probably has opera on his android | May 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | jono is nomnomnomnomlicious | May 02 19:31 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: "And the jono is a pretty cool guy..." | May 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | I jest | May 02 19:31 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Oh, I figured out | May 02 19:32 |
| XFaCE | formic_: It's very simple | May 02 19:32 |
| XFaCE | formic_: DaemonFC is a troll | May 02 19:32 |
| MinceR | too much information | May 02 19:32 |
| formic_ | yeah he must be | May 02 19:32 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Actually knew that a long time | May 02 19:33 |
| XFaCE | thanks to fellow troll, Diablo-D3 | May 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | jono never talks about KDE | May 02 19:33 |
| formic_ | thats why daemonfc just randomly talks to himself | May 02 19:33 |
| scientes | ^^ | May 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | of course he says what he's paid to say | May 02 19:33 |
| formic_ | hoping someone reads it and starts a flame | May 02 19:33 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Sometimes it's useful | May 02 19:33 |
| XFaCE | It's a talent | May 02 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | Sysinfo for 'ryan-desktop': Linux 3.3.4-1.fc17.x86_64 running KDE Development Platform 4.8.3 (4.8.3), CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 at 3000 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 46/1845GB, RAM: 4580/7987MB, 167 proc's, 4.24h up | May 02 19:34 |
| MinceR | that's not ubuntu :> | May 02 19:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Why is that odd? Different people have different privacy visibility to a group. Non-members can't see private posts, e.g. | May 02 19:34 | |
| *DaemonFC is listening to Narcissistic Cannibal (Original Mix) (Bonus) by Korn ft. Skrillex & Kill The Noise on The Path of Totality (Special Edition) [Amarok] | May 02 19:35 | |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Rush - Middletown Dreams [Power Windows] | May 02 19:35 | |
| DaemonFC | jono should cover that | May 02 19:35 |
| jono | I am glad I am so facinating to your guys, lol | May 02 19:35 |
| XFaCE | jono: Cover some rush dude | May 02 19:36 |
| MinceR | you're the local celebrity | May 02 19:36 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: BTW, if you have an interesting links | May 02 19:36 |
| XFaCE | send them to me PM | May 02 19:36 |
| XFaCE | I'll post them on a links page like Roy does | May 02 19:36 |
| MinceR | ok | May 02 19:36 |
| XFaCE | except when he is away | May 02 19:36 |
| jono | heh | May 02 19:36 |
| XFaCE | kinda hard for him to do that then | May 02 19:37 |
| XFaCE | jono: And if you have anything, send it to me too | May 02 19:37 |
| sebsebseb | By the way if anyone wants to do something construcitve, you can help me with something :) | May 02 19:37 |
| *XFaCE swats at sebsebseb | May 02 19:37 | |
| XFaCE | Shoo Shoo! | May 02 19:37 |
| XFaCE | j/k | May 02 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] European privacy police say Google "duped" them over Street View http://goo.gl/4PkeX didn't know the EU had a Privacy Police | May 02 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Do We Really Want Intellectual Ventures And Disney 'Governing' The Internet? http://goo.gl/n4fg5 | May 02 19:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: European privacy police say Google "duped" them over Street View .::. Size~: 34.52 KB | May 02 19:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Do We Really Want Intellectual Ventures And Disney 'Governing' The Internet? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 41.32 KB | May 02 19:38 |
| XFaCE | What'cha want Sebastian? | May 02 19:38 |
| jono | thanks XFaCE | May 02 19:38 |
| *DaemonFC hooks jono up to the Reverse Venus Fly Trap from Saw until they agree to make KDE the default desktop and Seamonkey the default browser | May 02 19:38 | |
| XFaCE | your welcome | May 02 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 02 19:38 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: seamonkey? | May 02 19:39 |
| XFaCE | Fuck Mozilla ATM | May 02 19:39 |
| XFaCE | seamonkey is ok I guess | May 02 19:39 |
| XFaCE | In the "meh" range | May 02 19:39 |
| MinceR | don't fuck mozilla | May 02 19:39 |
| MinceR | unless you're ready to take over maintaining firefox :> | May 02 19:39 |
| *XFaCE is now playing: Rush - Emotion Detector [Power Windows] | May 02 19:39 | |
| XFaCE | jono: Good music ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | May 02 19:40 |
| XFaCE | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | May 02 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.sadistic.pl/pics/e3d0f5fcad08.jpg <----WARNING! Adult content! NSFW!!!!!! :) | May 02 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 02 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: got my first Lightning Talk to do on 19th May | May 02 19:40 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Can I have roomop pls? | May 02 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: 5 minutes, in front of 100 people or so | May 02 19:40 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: where? | May 02 19:40 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: at a university | May 02 19:41 |
| XFaCE | err | May 02 19:41 |
| XFaCE | where? | May 02 19:41 |
| formic_ | 14:34 <@MinceR> that's not ubuntu :> | May 02 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: nearish to me | May 02 19:41 |
| XFaCE | Europe? NA? | May 02 19:41 |
| formic_ | 14:41 CTCP VERSION reply from formic_: xchat 2.8.8 FBI-Linux 3.3.1-3.x86_64 [x86_64/6.39GHz]. | May 02 19:41 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: uhmm England | May 02 19:41 |
| XFaCE | formic_: lol | May 02 19:41 |
| *MinceR gives channel operator status to XFaCE | May 02 19:41 | |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: right right | May 02 19:41 |
| formic_ | I guess im running FBI Linux on a 6.39Ghz CPU | May 02 19:41 |
| *XFaCE has kicked DaemonFC from #techrights (stupid pictures) | May 02 19:41 | |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: and well still not 100% sure what I am going to be saying | May 02 19:42 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: plus what I will have for a slide show if I even bother | May 02 19:42 |
| MinceR | that wasn't very nice | May 02 19:42 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Thx :) | May 02 19:42 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Hey, if you posts pictures | May 02 19:42 |
| XFaCE | *he | May 02 19:42 |
| MinceR | bieber deserves to have such a picture posted about him | May 02 19:42 |
| MinceR | he's a fundie | May 02 19:42 |
| XFaCE | oh shi- | May 02 19:42 |
| *DaemonFC (~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc) has joined #techrights | May 02 19:43 | |
| sebsebseb | Chatzilla sucks | May 02 19:43 |
| ThistleWeb | sebsebseb: what date is magiea supposed to be released again? mid may sometime? 13th ish? | May 02 19:43 |
| *XFaCE has kicked XFaCE from #techrights (I've dunn goofed) | May 02 19:43 | |
| *XFaCE (XFaCE@unaffiliated/xface) has joined #techrights | May 02 19:43 | |
| MinceR | lol | May 02 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: release candidate was meant to be today, but been delayed, 15th May is meant to be the final | May 02 19:43 |
| MinceR | consequences will never be the same | May 02 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: actsually the final was going to be today before or whatever | May 02 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | or tommorow | May 02 19:43 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: The Cyber police on their way | May 02 19:43 |
| MinceR | :> | May 02 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: by the way you did a great blog post about jono 's openrespect | May 02 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | I thought it was a really good read | May 02 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | after using XChat for a week, I can't believe I ever used that and managed to remain sane | May 02 19:44 |
| MinceR | the only Rush song i've heard was Resist, but it's good | May 02 19:44 |
| jono | sebsebseb, which post? | May 02 19:44 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: C'mon, the ONLY song? | May 02 19:44 |
| MinceR | yes | May 02 19:44 |
| ThistleWeb | 15th is tuesday, we've moved to weekly now, so I'm thinking the 14th might be a good night to record the interview | May 02 19:44 |
| MinceR | it was recommended to me by a friend | May 02 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Brian Proffitt http://ur1.ca/95kfy | May 02 19:44 | |
| MinceR | he said i'd like the lyrics, and he was right | May 02 19:44 |
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| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: maybe, but I need to focus on my Lightning Talk | May 02 19:45 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: I've a got a billion more recommendations | May 02 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: and prepare for that | May 02 19:45 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Are you talking about Crivins? | May 02 19:45 |
| XFaCE | B/C I have time now weeeeee | May 02 19:45 |
| ThistleWeb | we'd like to try and time it to match the release as closely as we can | May 02 19:45 |
| ThistleWeb | XFaCE: yes | May 02 19:45 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Time? | May 02 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | jono: http://thistleweb.co.uk/blog/26/04/2012/open-respect | May 02 19:46 |
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| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: XFaCE I got a event to go to http://itmegameet.co.uk and down for my first ever talk in front of 100 or so people hmm | May 02 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | to talk about Mageia :) | May 02 19:46 |
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| ThistleWeb | XFaCE: we're having sebsebseb on an episode to pimp & discuss magea, ideally to coincide more or less with the release | May 02 19:47 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Sounds exciting :) | May 02 19:47 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Makes sense | May 02 19:47 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: I have no idea what would coincide with me | May 02 19:47 |
| ThistleWeb | we record monday evenings just after 8pm on mumble | May 02 19:47 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: ThistleWeb and so any help for what I will actsually say in this talk, would be appreciated :) https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-marketing/2012-May/000865.html | May 02 19:47 |
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| sebsebseb | some idea's in the email I sent last night on what I could say | May 02 19:47 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Mandriva dunn goofed | May 02 19:48 |
| *eebrah has quit (Quit: baadaye! people) | May 02 19:48 | |
| sebsebseb | only got 5 minutes | May 02 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think Mandriva is coming back from this | May 02 19:48 |
| ThistleWeb | I prefer not to plan, but to freewheel, it's more natural | May 02 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I am thinking do this Lightning Talk first, then podcasts after, something else could talk about in podcast briefly then as well :) | May 02 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | the ROSA fork is pretty obvious as a sign the Russians don't see any need to burn more money on Mandriva itself | May 02 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: FOSA have quit Mandriva or something now though | May 02 19:49 |
| ThistleWeb | unless you wanna do the interview before that, we'll hold it back to the right release time | May 02 19:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | [02:33:09] <formic_> thats why daemonfc just randomly talks to himself | May 02 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | well they also got their ROSA distribution which is very similar to Mandriva 2011 | May 02 19:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | everyone has him on ignore | May 02 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: right, but 15th May is the Mageia 2 final unless delayed, then 19th May this event :) | May 02 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | the only reason to fork it would be because they don't want to develop it as Mandriva | May 02 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | hopefuly not delayed, since meant to be getting sent Mageia 2 CD's from Germany :) | May 02 19:50 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: monday at 8, which timezone? | May 02 19:50 |
| ThistleWeb | gmpt | May 02 19:50 |
| ThistleWeb | gmt even | May 02 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | I can't blame them. It's probably cheaper to just take ownership of the entire thing rather than commit to all that funding and still have to argue with people at the company that you're funding. | May 02 19:50 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: yep free flow, just go out there and do it, it's like a phone call, can't plan exactly what to say | May 02 19:50 |
| ThistleWeb | it's now 19:50 here, so around this time on mondays | May 02 19:50 |
| XFaCE | It's 14:50 here | May 02 19:51 |
| XFaCE | ok, that works | May 02 19:51 |
| ThistleWeb | k, then 3pm your time | May 02 19:51 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: exactly why if I have a slide show, I may not follow it that much, just have one with i some additional info or something | May 02 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | if Mageia would commit to grub 2 support I'd look into it | May 02 19:51 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: I can fit in two hours I think | May 02 19:51 |
| ThistleWeb | XFaCE: you're losing me | May 02 19:51 |
| sebsebseb | jono: it's so nice having a position in a opensource project, a more proper one :) | May 02 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like the idea of "Oh, after the fact you can install it yourself, whack the bootloader we officially support, blah blah!" | May 02 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | then watch things go hideously wrong from there | May 02 19:52 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: I think I record for the show for two hours | May 02 19:52 |
| XFaCE | *I can record | May 02 19:52 |
| ThistleWeb | you wanna come on an episode? | May 02 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | then there's the problem of ever having to deal with GRUB Legacy to begin with | May 02 19:52 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: Yes | May 02 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: oh we were going to go on Techrights together | May 02 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes it just fails to install at all and hangs the distributions installer | May 02 19:52 |
| ThistleWeb | the magea one with sebsebseb | May 02 19:52 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: nope a general one I think | May 02 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | or the installer gives up, tell you it succeeded, then you reboot and the BIOS says there's no OS because it turns out it didn't | May 02 19:53 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: that too | May 02 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | or it installs and then corrupts your filesystem root before you get around to replacing it with a bootloader that wouldn't do this crap | May 02 19:53 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: who says I can't do both? :P | May 02 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: Mageia episode? | May 02 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | you don't use it though | May 02 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | if they replaced it and made GRUB 2 or LILO the default, I would check into it | May 02 19:54 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Mageia? | May 02 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | either one of those seems to always install and aren't known for killing file systems | May 02 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 02 19:55 |
| sebsebseb | Grub 0.97 for Mageia 2 | May 02 19:55 |
| sebsebseb | ,but Grub 2 probably for Mageia 3 | May 02 19:55 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah Mageia 1 is Grub 0.97 | May 02 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | with GRUB, Ext4 is dangerous, XFS is REALLY dangerous, and BtrFS on your filesystem root? uhhhm not going to happen, and if you patch it up to make it happen, have fun supporting the mess you've made | May 02 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB Legacy that is, GRUB 2 is much better | May 02 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: so may do this event talk first, then podcasts, not quite sure yet | May 02 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: quite a lot of distros still using Grub legacy | May 02 19:56 |
| sebsebseb | also it's only quite recently that Fedora has GRUB 2 as well | May 02 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | well, they really shouldn't | May 02 19:57 |
| sebsebseb | also apparnatly Grub 0.97 isn't the same, it depends on the distro and what patches they ahve | May 02 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, Fedora shipping legacy grub until Fedora 15 was ridiculous | May 02 19:57 |
| ThistleWeb | so sebsebseb since the date is gonna fluctuate, how about we do the interview as a standalone thing, then slot it in as the discussion section on whatver crivins is nearest the release date | May 02 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | they didn't feel any burning need to get rid of it because it's what RHEL is still using | May 02 19:57 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: or do it after the 19th May like I was saying | May 02 19:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Skype gets a new, less P2P, more centralized architecture. So they need more servers. And of course, now that Skype be... http://b1t.it/bo5Y | May 02 19:58 | |
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| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: remember bruce? | May 02 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | 19th is sat, how about the moday after, the 21st | May 02 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | there's literally a mountain of patches against legacy grub for RHEL | May 02 19:58 |
| ThistleWeb | from the mint channel? | May 02 19:58 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: no, bruce89 | May 02 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | oh right, yeah | May 02 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | it goes into the hundreds because of patching in things it was never designed to do or trying to avoid corner cases where it eats the file system | May 02 19:59 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: he's coming down to see my talk :) | May 02 19:59 |
| ThistleWeb | k | May 02 19:59 |
| sebsebseb | and someone else I know as well and him | May 02 19:59 |
| sebsebseb | people I haven't meet yet, but both known online since like 2007 or something so yeah | May 02 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | they run regression testing against the use cases they officially support in RHEL, if that makes you feel good about using it | May 02 20:00 |
| sebsebseb | well untill 19th May, I am thinking, Mageia 2 is coming out soon, and I got a event to do a 5 minute talk about it. and if I do podcasts after well can say something about doing a talk about it at a event even or something | May 02 20:00 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: Monday 21st that sounds good | May 02 20:00 |
| sebsebseb | what time? | May 02 20:00 |
| ThistleWeb | we join mumble at 8pm, a quick chat later then we record | May 02 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | so you only record cirvins on Monday that's what you were saying? | May 02 20:01 |
| ThistleWeb | about this time | May 02 20:01 |
| ThistleWeb | yes, kevie's time slots are limited | May 02 20:01 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: I know your show normally has some swearing, but can I make a little request for that episode? keep it clean the whole episode? | May 02 20:02 |
| ThistleWeb | sure, just remind me when you join mumble | May 02 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | ok :) | May 02 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | as for Mumble though uhmm | May 02 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | would need to get set up with that, in fact actsaully I got to start over with everything on my computer | May 02 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | something went wrong and yeah | May 02 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | yep chatting to you from a Mageia 1 Gnome Live CD at the moment | May 02 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | well or I could have done it in Windows | May 02 20:03 |
| ThistleWeb | mumble makes it easy to record, as well as gives us decent sound quality | May 02 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | yep indeed :), but apparnatly setting up can be a bit tricky or something | May 02 20:03 |
| ThistleWeb | not really | May 02 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | so for that episode, a whole one I guess, and just us three? | May 02 20:04 |
| ThistleWeb | yes | May 02 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | ok awesome :) | May 02 20:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF asks the FCC to formally forbid cell phone shutdowns in wake of 2011 #BART incident https://eff.org/r.3aad | May 02 20:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | btw, there is no Catalyst bundle that works in Fedora 17 yet | May 02 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | they don't support the X.org Server 1.12 release | May 02 20:05 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: I meant the Techbytes ep with you | May 02 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | if you try it, X will just fail to load | May 02 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: about Mageia? | May 02 20:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What +Wil Wheaton sez http://ur1.ca/95kqw | May 02 20:06 | |
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| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: probably going to do something Mageia for Tuxjam as well :) well Kevie suggested pre recording a message for the release day before for example | May 02 20:07 |
| sebsebseb | and Techbytes, and probably some other podcasts I can guest on as well hmm | May 02 20:07 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Or whatever | May 02 20:08 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: or the general episode like we said before :) | May 02 20:08 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: yeah, that's the one | May 02 20:08 |
| XFaCE | if Goblin comes on, we should discuss a Techbytes episode while Roy is away | May 02 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: oh? | May 02 20:09 |
| XFaCE | yeah | May 02 20:09 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: what about editing for Cirvins, how much is actsually done etc? | May 02 20:09 |
| ThistleWeb | we've switched to zero editing | May 02 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | with Techbytes it's just, what is said, goes in the episode basicalely | May 02 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2012-April/001930.html | May 02 20:10 |
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| ThistleWeb | that's why we're now weekly | May 02 20:10 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: I have a Techrights WP account and wiki account, so I can sort of take care of TR while he is away | May 02 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Has Jeremy Huddleston quit Apple? | May 02 20:10 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: yeah I got some sort of account for Techrights, not logged in for ages though | May 02 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | or did they just give him a freedesktop.org email address? | May 02 20:10 |
| ThistleWeb | kevie used to edit the show, now it's adding the music sections, lining the sections up, quick check of the volume, then encode so it's 100% raw as it happened | May 02 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | ok nice :) | May 02 20:11 |
| ThistleWeb | that's why we get the sp out fast | May 02 20:11 |
| ThistleWeb | ep* | May 02 20:11 |
| sebsebseb | nice and natural :D | May 02 20:11 |
| ThistleWeb | we recorded ep 13 on monday evening, finished at like 10:45pm ish, it was released about 1am | May 02 20:12 |
| ThistleWeb | and a part of that was me having to scramble around to do the show notes lol | May 02 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: well even if they also end up delaying the final of Mageia 2 a bit, I hope not | May 02 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | been quite a lot of delays this release cycle with other versions | May 02 20:12 |
| sebsebseb | anyway even if it's delayed a bit I hope not, should be out by the time I go on Cirvins :) | May 02 20:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] @fontana ZOMG #freedomoffby1error | May 02 20:13 | |
| XFaCE | techrights.org is down... | May 02 20:13 |
| formic_ | lol mandriva | May 02 20:13 |
| formic_ | chapter 11 every couple years | May 02 20:13 |
| XFaCE | oh wait, n/m | May 02 20:13 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: someone cracked it | May 02 20:14 |
| sebsebseb | I guess heh heh | May 02 20:14 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: uhmm what? | May 02 20:14 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Nah, I accidentally put https in | May 02 20:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @alper morgen ook op #rp12? Mijn vliegtuig landt om 8:00 geloof ik. | May 02 20:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @greetd @Tuinslak dank jullie! ^^ | May 02 20:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @alper super! Tweet me zeker eens als je ter plaatse bent | May 02 20:18 | |
| sebsebseb | ThistleWeb: might try and get one of the founders on as well from Edinbrugh, or we could do that as well some other time or something, have a really Scottish Mageia type episode :D | May 02 20:22 |
| ThistleWeb | let them know we're scheduled for monday 21st at 8pm - if they wanna come on, great | May 02 20:23 |
| sebsebseb | yep :) | May 02 20:23 |
| XFaCE | Monday 21? Why so late? | May 02 20:23 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: since I don't want to do podcasts untill after the talk at the event | May 02 20:24 |
| sebsebseb | and they record on Monday now | May 02 20:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Did Socialcam buy its way to the #1 app store spot by using FreeAppADay? http://goo.gl/qoUxJ | May 02 20:24 | |
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| XFaCE | ok | May 02 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | plus I want a proper episode, not a added in | May 02 20:25 |
| sebsebseb | and Mageia 2 is meant to be coming out on Tuesday 15th May | May 02 20:25 |
| XFaCE | ThistleWeb: you are doing an episode next week? | May 02 20:25 |
| ThistleWeb | every monday night yes | May 02 20:25 |
| XFaCE | I suppose that could work | May 02 20:27 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: your going on cirvins on your own? I remember with Techbytes you were scared to go on own heh heh :D | May 02 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | [15:27] <DaemonFC> Mozilla's extensions policy is just sad. If they're not going to force extensions to be free software they should at least mandate that there's no unenforceable, unintelligible, or just plain stupid license terms attached to it. | May 02 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | [15:28] <DaemonFC> Less than half of their extensions are free software and sometimes the only thing making them nonfree is someone adding "God Bless America!" or "Only use this for good!" to the license | May 02 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 02 20:28 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Hey, you can come too | May 02 20:28 |
| formic_ | sebsebseb - mandriva, chapter 11 bankrupcy? | May 02 20:29 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: for a generel episode next week? | May 02 20:29 |
| MinceR | is "God bless America!" enforceable? :> | May 02 20:29 |
| XFaCE | well, if you're up for it, why not? | May 02 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: US courts can't seem to reach God for comment on things like that. | May 02 20:29 |
| MinceR | and does it apply if the licensee is not a god? | May 02 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | No address at which he can be served. | May 02 20:29 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: maybe, but got to sort my computer out really etc, should have some DVD's tommorow though :) | May 02 20:30 |
| sebsebseb | can't just put stuff on external hard disk | May 02 20:30 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: plus I am on cirvins for the Mageia episode later, but maybe a general episode with you first, anyway it's up to ThistleWeb his show | May 02 20:30 |
| sebsebseb | and hopefuly I can get that founder to join me for the Mageia :) | May 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | IT still sets a condition of use. | May 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | You can only use the software if God agrees to bless America. | May 02 20:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @thistleweb Do We Really Want Intellectual Ventures And Disney 'Governing' The Internet? http://goo.gl/n4fg5 | May 02 20:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | even if we could prove God exists and he did agree to bless America, the license is still nonfree because that's still a restriction on use | May 02 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | it's a conditional clause | May 02 20:32 |
| MinceR | ic | May 02 20:32 |
| XFaCE | lol | May 02 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | requiring that God bless America for the user to be able to use the software is dangerous because if God doesn't respond then that means that your license to use the software is in question! | May 02 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | and he could show up and declare that he doesn't agree to bless America, then you're in trouble! (copyright violation!) | May 02 20:33 |
| MinceR | they do not specify which god so at least only non-god users are in trouble | May 02 20:34 |
| XFaCE | Zeus, Hades, etc. | May 02 20:34 |
| MinceR | or me | May 02 20:34 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: what would you talk about on cirvins? | May 02 20:34 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: I'd be a complement to whatever ThistleWeb and Kev talks about | May 02 20:35 |
| MinceR | but could a user attack such a claim since the license doesn't explicitly say that god blessing america is a condition for the license? | May 02 20:35 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: I prefer to take a more minimalist role | May 02 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | meaning? | May 02 20:35 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: oh you mean you would add stuff in, to what they are talking about? | May 02 20:35 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Yeah, when I have some substantive to add | May 02 20:36 |
| XFaCE | *something | May 02 20:36 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: hmm ok | May 02 20:37 |
| XFaCE | bbl | May 02 20:38 |
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| formic_ | you know daemonfc has never gone on the record to state he doesnt eat babies | May 02 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | that's because I've been known to according to some peoples definition of "baby" | May 02 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | I also while away the afternoon wiping out entire civilizations sometimes | May 02 20:44 |
| *DaemonFC is listening to The boy who couldn't keep his clothes on by Pet Shop Boys on Format CD1 [Amarok] | May 02 20:47 | |
| DaemonFC | lol | May 02 20:47 |
| MinceR | http://www.metalsucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/babycake2.jpg | May 02 20:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Heavy thunderstorm brewing over Munich. | May 02 20:54 | |
| MinceR | http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7946/mahlzeitt.png | May 02 20:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm from identi.ca with 79 dents! | May 02 20:59 | |
| formic_ | pet shop boys | May 02 21:00 |
| formic_ | i wonder what they do for fun | May 02 21:00 |
| formic_ | it probably involves tubes and hamsters | May 02 21:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] "Nobody will stone anyone until I blow this whistle. and I want to make it absolutely clear, even if they do say Lozza" | May 02 21:04 | |
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| _Goblin | Good evening all.... | May 02 21:06 |
| _Goblin | and what a bloody splendid one it is too. | May 02 21:06 |
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| MinceR | oh hai | May 02 21:07 |
| MinceR | 220439 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [openbytes/@openbytes] "Nobody will stone anyone until I blow this whistle. and I want to make it absolutely clear, even if they do say Lozza" | May 02 21:08 |
| MinceR | lol | May 02 21:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Chaud! - http://ur1.ca/95lc5 #share | May 02 21:11 | |
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| formic_ | daemonfc - flac support in winamp for android costs money dude | May 02 21:13 |
| formic_ | daemonfc - I grabbed "andLess" | May 02 21:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Xubuntu 12.04 opinion from DarkDuck http://goo.gl/zPp3q « but they're out of date, or mistaken, on !Kubuntu, right? | May 02 21:14 | |
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| scientes | formic_, | May 02 21:20 |
| scientes | Will not build the Go compiler: disabled for cpu sparc | May 02 21:20 |
| scientes | does go have limited architecture support? | May 02 21:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's @RaineyReitman goes on Attack of the Show to explain everything you need to know about #CISPA https://eff.org/r.a6ae | May 02 21:24 | |
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| formic_ | scientes - I think they have support for x86,x64 and arm | May 02 21:27 |
| formic_ | gcc-go should work on everything I assume | May 02 21:27 |
| formic_ | gcc-go won't free you from the makefile burden though | May 02 21:28 |
| scientes | that was gcc-go | May 02 21:32 |
| scientes | on debian | May 02 21:32 |
| scientes | should support at least one big endian architecture | May 02 21:32 |
| scientes | ppc or mips | May 02 21:32 |
| _Goblin | mincer: just when you thought it safe to go on identi.ca......the man with the neanderthals pops up again.......... | May 02 21:32 |
| MinceR | :D | May 02 21:33 |
| _Goblin | I suppose its time for me to get on my masonic robes........anyone for a handshake? | May 02 21:33 |
| _Goblin | do masons have robes? | May 02 21:34 |
| _Goblin | if they don't, they should.... | May 02 21:34 |
| MinceR | sorry, i don't qualify for a mason | May 02 21:34 |
| MinceR | i don't believe in a single creator deity | May 02 21:34 |
| formic_ | http://groups.google.com/group/golang-nuts/browse_thread/thread/8d4a4a42438320f1/fa65296d2285119b?lnk=raot&pli=1 | May 02 21:34 |
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| _Goblin | I'm liking the idea of a Gandalf type number.... | May 02 21:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !CrunchBang 11 “Waldorf” Linux OS now available for testing - Liliputing http://ping.fm/yfa03 | May 02 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @silner: #CrunchBang 11 “Waldorf” Linux OS now available for testing - Liliputing http://ping.fm/yfa03 | May 02 21:34 | |
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| formic_ | Goblin_ they do have aprons: http://www.masonicsupplyshop.com/product_images/u/693/DPP_156__36477_zoom.JPG | May 02 21:35 |
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| formic_ | that one looks suspiciously familiar | May 02 21:35 |
| _Goblin | how about mincer, you believe in one creator who represents many....? Sort of a PR agent? then you join the merry masons. | May 02 21:36 |
| _Goblin | and wear a Gandalf type number..... | May 02 21:36 |
| MinceR | i believe in none | May 02 21:36 |
| _Goblin | difficult then... | May 02 21:36 |
| _Goblin | are you sure they have the deity thing though? | May 02 21:36 |
| MinceR | pretty sure | May 02 21:36 |
| _Goblin | I thought they just kissed frogs and shook hands | May 02 21:37 |
| _Goblin | not necessarily in that order | May 02 21:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Anatomy of a !Fedora 17 ISO image http://ping.fm/mAuFe | May 02 21:38 | |
| MinceR | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Freemason#The_Supreme_Being_and_the_Volume_of_Sacred_Law | May 02 21:38 |
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| MinceR | well, at least a god | May 02 21:38 |
| MinceR | ah, found what i remembered | May 02 21:38 |
| MinceR | "In the ritual, the Supreme Being is referred to as the Great Architect of the Universe" | May 02 21:38 |
| MinceR | sorry, but we have a better explanation of how the universe came to be the way it is | May 02 21:39 |
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| MinceR | time to get over bronze age superstitions :> | May 02 21:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Nooooooooooooooo I spoke too soon I've attracted the attentions of "The Bell".Time for a block I think....worked before, it'll work again | May 02 21:41 | |
| _Goblin | I don't believe it...... | May 02 21:43 |
| _Goblin | he's back........... | May 02 21:43 |
| _Goblin | and in my social networks.. | May 02 21:43 |
| _Goblin | I'll have to now try and weed him out (weed in his case having two meanings and being the operative word) | May 02 21:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] RT @lascapigliata “Μην ξαναγίνεις ένας χέστης. « //ΠαραλληλοΓράφος//”: http://identi.ca/url/69409309 | May 02 21:44 | |
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| formic_ | you could report him to statusnet | May 02 21:45 |
| _Goblin | why would I do that....? pointless...he nym shifts and someone has shown him how to use a proxy.... | May 02 21:46 |
| _Goblin | good thing about him is that he can't keep his mouth shut, so when he vomits onto my social networks I'll just remove him. | May 02 21:46 |
| _Goblin | Funny though how he knows he turned his own name into mud...otherwise he would be proud to come back with the identity he had before. | May 02 21:47 |
| formic_ | sounds simple enough | May 02 21:47 |
| formic_ | abuse@status.net if you change your mind | May 02 21:47 |
| _Goblin | anyway as the witchhunt the other week.... you are brandon...... | May 02 21:47 |
| _Goblin | so it would make it a little off if I talk to you here and then report you behind your back | May 02 21:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple Rejecting Some Apps With !Dropbox Integration http://ow.ly/aF3XR « because it's wiping the floor with iCloud? | May 02 21:48 | |
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| formic_ | lol | May 02 21:48 |
| formic_ | tin foil under that cowboy hat? | May 02 21:48 |
| _Goblin | over and under.......and its not a cowboy hat... its a witchfinder generals one. | May 02 21:49 |
| MinceR | :D | May 02 21:49 |
| formic_ | ^_^ | May 02 21:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Well I've managed to purge it for the time being. I kept it away for at least a few months so I can't complain. | May 02 21:51 | |
| _Goblin | Right... moving on..... | May 02 21:53 |
| _Goblin | For the first time in my life I'm actually looking forward to seeing a film at a local cinema (when it releases)... | May 02 21:53 |
| _Goblin | Prometheus....I hope will turn out to be good.... | May 02 21:53 |
| ThistleWeb | _Goblin: do you subscribe to kermodes movie review podcast? | May 02 21:54 |
| _Goblin | no.... | May 02 21:54 |
| _Goblin | I saw a preview for the above on Youtuve | May 02 21:54 |
| _Goblin | *tube | May 02 21:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Thanks I'm not going to sleep tonight....you've put a horrible thought of a Mertroll into my head.... | May 02 21:54 | |
| ThistleWeb | it's excellent | May 02 21:56 |
| ThistleWeb | it's one of the bbc radio 5live podcasts | May 02 21:57 |
| _Goblin | oh right...I'll have a look | May 02 21:57 |
| _Goblin | to be fair, I only found out about Prometheus by accident....I don't keep up with movie news so until a few days ago I never knew it was coming out | May 02 21:58 |
| ThistleWeb | it's a 2hr broadcast slot on friday afternoon, 2-4pm, then stripped of news parts, topped & tailed with intro & outro stuff, then released as a podcast | May 02 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Do Portugal Profundo: Pingos amargos http://goo.gl/0AyKk | May 02 21:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Harken Ye Oracle » EU's top court says APIs can't have !copyright http://ping.fm/S5KYF | May 02 21:58 | |
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| ThistleWeb | for back episodes, or even a first ep to try it out, check the one with david tennant, it was about 5 episodes back | May 02 21:59 |
| ThistleWeb | he is such a nice bloke | May 02 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | demonoid has moved to a .ph domain | May 02 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | they had been down for a few days, now the .me site is just a redirect to .ph | May 02 21:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The F-Word Made Its Last Appearance in a Supreme Court Opinion in 1993 http://ping.fm/W1hlK | May 02 21:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Empty reply from server ( http://ping.fm/W1hlK ) | May 02 21:59 |
| ThistleWeb | http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/kermode | May 02 22:01 |
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| _Goblin | DaemonFC, I'd be careful...."The Bell" just tried to suggest copyright infringement when I asked about Zsnes...if he see's that Mr Everyones-a-mason will be after you! | May 02 22:02 |
| _Goblin | (by "that" I mean a demonoid reference) | May 02 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | huh? | May 02 22:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] ! Is this a joke? » Fedora 18 Will Be Named Spherical Cow http://ping.fm/ZJEw8 | May 02 22:03 | |
| DaemonFC | who did what? | May 02 22:03 |
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| ThistleWeb | I'm waiting for Fedora to call a release Urinal Games | May 02 22:06 |
| MinceR | :D | May 02 22:07 |
| MinceR | have you tried suggesting it already? | May 02 22:07 |
| ThistleWeb | with lil html5 games around the stream while it downloads | May 02 22:07 |
| ThistleWeb | kinda like a more proactive version of dropping a stick in a stream to see who wins | May 02 22:07 |
| ThistleWeb | playing air hockey with the urinal cake and the stream of pee | May 02 22:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I'm waiting for #Fedora to call a release Urinal Games | May 02 22:08 | |
| ThistleWeb | complete with ciggy butts as goalposts | May 02 22:08 |
| ThistleWeb | and the local perv offering to help you out to avoid you losing when your hand gets tired | May 02 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Complete 911 Timeline: 1993 Bombing of the World Trade Center http://goo.gl/YPYrG #usa #fbi #falseflag | May 02 22:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The UK's battle for open standards http://ping.fm/kTNuy | May 02 22:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 1993 WTC Bomb Attack - FBI Informant Emad Salem Tapes - YouTube http://goo.gl/7OwTk | May 02 22:16 | |
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| DaemonFC | I don't see how the fucking US government can say I hurt the economy when I download some music files. They're the ones handing out government credit cards to DHS employees with a $250,000 spending limit so they can charge things like boob jobs for their girlfriend on them | May 02 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | This is the government that comes back every year, tells us all how they wasted our hard earned money, and tells us to tighten our belts again and get ready to have it clawed back out of our retirement pensions | May 02 22:17 |
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| _Goblin | DaemonFC, sorry was afk....don't worry...it was just the re-appearance of a nobody on identi.ca and a private joke.... | May 02 22:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] on the other hand, any searches for a Porche #911 just got annihilated by results about #NYC #Dubya etc | May 02 22:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Google's 'Anti-Semitic' Auto-Complete Feature Spawns Lawsuit in France http://ping.fm/08Bxc | May 02 22:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Joachim Fels: The Key Events Next Week: Greek Election, ECB, US Non-Farm Payrolls Report - Business Insider http://goo.gl/Uuuxp | May 02 22:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | won't be long until I need to put the air conditioners in | May 02 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | :P | May 02 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | good weather is too good to last | May 02 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | there's about 7 months out of the year where my electric bill isn't outrageous at least | May 02 22:33 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: JUST THE MAN I WANTED TO TALK TO | May 02 22:36 |
| XFaCE | oops | May 02 22:36 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: seriously | May 02 22:37 |
| _Goblin | yeah go for it. | May 02 22:37 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: With Roy on hiatus, would it be possible to have a Techbytes show without him? | May 02 22:37 |
| _Goblin | Don't see why not......what you have in mind? | May 02 22:37 |
| XFaCE | err | May 02 22:38 |
| XFaCE | exactly that | May 02 22:38 |
| _Goblin | what solo or with others? | May 02 22:38 |
| XFaCE | with others | May 02 22:38 |
| XFaCE | Including me | May 02 22:38 |
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| _Goblin | yeah, don't see why not... | May 02 22:39 |
| _Goblin | are u UK? | May 02 22:39 |
| XFaCE | no | May 02 22:39 |
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| _Goblin | right..so timing needs to be planned for... | May 02 22:39 |
| _Goblin | not a problem.... | May 02 22:39 |
| XFaCE | yeah | May 02 22:39 |
| XFaCE | What time do you have now? | May 02 22:39 |
| XFaCE | Just to establish the differential | May 02 22:39 |
| _Goblin | 2239 | May 02 22:39 |
| XFaCE | I have 17:39 | May 02 22:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Free expression advocates @article19org will host debate on #ACTA in London tomorrow, May 3, starting at 6pm https://eff.org/r.2aaf | May 02 22:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] From despair to sadness to emptiness to nothing to anger to feeling useless. How I feel inside. Must fix that. Goodnight. | May 02 22:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ARTICLE 19 to host debate on anti piracy agreement · Article 19 .::. Size~: 27.05 KB | May 02 22:40 |
| _Goblin | email a list of times (In UK if you can) that suit.....we will sort something out.... | May 02 22:40 |
| XFaCE | okee dokee | May 02 22:40 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Are you in on this as well? | May 02 22:40 |
| _Goblin | I'll be off shortly, but I'll leave it up to you to bring anyone you want... | May 02 22:41 |
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| XFaCE | _Goblin: understood | May 02 22:41 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I've got a bit of a list of TR stuff to do | May 02 22:42 |
| _Goblin | cool.... | May 02 22:43 |
| XFaCE | speaking of which | May 02 22:43 |
| XFaCE | like fixing the Canadian portal of TR | May 02 22:43 |
| XFaCE | and replacing the logo with a Free font variation | May 02 22:43 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Turns out the Techrights logo uses non-free font | May 02 22:43 |
| XFaCE | s | May 02 22:43 |
| MinceR | gn | May 02 22:44 |
| _Goblin | gn | May 02 22:44 |
| _Goblin | yeah go for it... | May 02 22:44 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Hows openbytes doing? | May 02 22:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Google's 'Engineer Doe' Known for Wi-Fi Hacking Tool | Threat Level | Wired.com http://goo.gl/ZvdbS | May 02 22:44 | |
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| _Goblin | Yep, readership is good...had a few large hits over the last few days with a couple of articles... | May 02 22:45 |
| _Goblin | i'm slowly starting to get back into things. | May 02 22:45 |
| _Goblin | I believe this august it will be 4 years old... | May 02 22:45 |
| XFaCE | nice | May 02 22:46 |
| XFaCE | see you later | May 02 22:46 |
| _Goblin | and on that note, I'll be off...........see you tomorrow! | May 02 22:46 |
| XFaCE | Gn | May 02 22:47 |
| _Goblin | gn mate. | May 02 22:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Alida Brandenburg http://ur1.ca/95lui | May 02 22:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I have started to test all my decisions according to the Golden Rule. And it starts to change my life. | May 02 22:59 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA5NTY | May 02 23:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "But for a technology company, going on offense with software patents seems like an act of desperation, relying on the... http://b1t.it/bo8w | May 02 23:14 | |
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| sebsebseb | XFaCE: oh he's gone now | May 02 23:15 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: got a computer to sort out, well I can use my headset in Windows hmm, but tommorow going to get some DVD R's, and burn data to them, that's the plan, well if I can get locally | May 02 23:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] "Dear Community – II" from Mandriva http://ur1.ca/95lyq | May 02 23:16 | |
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| *DaemonFC is listening to Breakn' A Sweat (Original Mix) by The Doors, Skrillex on Bangarang EP [Amarok] | May 02 23:17 | |
| DaemonFC | installing VirtualBox | May 02 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | going to slap the Vista 8 preview in it | May 02 23:20 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Vista? NEXT. | May 02 23:21 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: We got time | May 02 23:22 |
| XFaCE | sebsebseb: Just share the times you are available | May 02 23:22 |
| XFaCE | doesn't ahve to be this week | May 02 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: true | May 02 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: the be honest I am thinking mainly about 19th May when thinking about stuff | May 02 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | at the moment | May 02 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | oh and now a little bit about the fate of Mandriva again as well | May 02 23:22 |
| sebsebseb | since the news that just came in, just read the blog post | May 02 23:23 |
| sebsebseb | and also about 15th May when the Mageia 2 release is meant to come out :) | May 02 23:23 |
| XFaCE | heh | May 02 23:23 |
| XFaCE | brb | May 02 23:23 |
| XFaCE | prurigro: Are you actually online? | May 02 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not going to put it on bare metal | May 02 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | just in a VM | May 02 23:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwebber: good solution to the "oh no, we don't have enough high quality community-driven #AGPL webapps?" Help us build them. | May 02 23:28 | |
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| scientes | this one is alot of fun :) | May 02 23:35 |
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