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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Database and IP Records Tie Election #Fraud To #Canada's Ruling Conservatives - Slashdot http://goo.gl/xbtty | May 06 00:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ryanweal That’s the definition of job. What you want is retirement. | May 06 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Hey-Zeus, the one true god with massively multiple personality disorder. #humour http://ur1.ca/96ll6 | May 06 00:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hey-Zeus, the One True God with Massively Multiple Personality Disorder | The Many Rants of Larry Russwurm .::. Size~: 34.41 KB | May 06 00:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jerezim The Internet is a common good, we own it together but we have a collective responsibility to teach people why it matters. #R ... | May 06 00:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk It's a problem nonetheless. "A generation that ignores history has no past, and no future." ~Lazarus Long !q | May 06 00:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @joanvinallcox Young in front of Aged http://post.ly/79q60 | May 06 00:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @laurelrusswurm No, it's deleting notices that's the game, anonymity is the same problem | May 06 01:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I learned years ago not to disagree with you re: science, @larryrusswurm ... it it's a super moon the effect should be an increased zoom :) | May 06 01:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. This article is good on DRM in books but high handed to self publishers. http://ur1.ca/96m5b | May 06 01:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More on DRM and ebooks - Charlie's Diary .::. Size~: 633.56 KB | May 06 01:07 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag @satipera :) | May 06 01:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "The main effect of DRM, from a platform vendor's perspective, is to lock end-users into their platform in perpetuity." http://ur1.ca/96m5b | May 06 01:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf Identizens. | May 06 02:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @ladyj It was much to get your act together, bit-torrent is kicking the artist in it's ass | May 06 02:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @douglasawh @laurelrusswurm the main effect of DRM is DRM circumvention | May 06 02:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Great! Found my tripod... getting ready to brave the elements in search of the super moon :) | May 06 03:43 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: http://www.gimp.org/ Really nice news. 32 bit and 16 bit is working in the development branch. | May 06 04:00 |
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| formic_ | oiaohm - 16 bit? huh? | May 06 04:07 |
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| oiaohm | formic_: 16 and 32 per channel. | May 06 04:10 |
| oiaohm | formic_: comes important when you are doing filters on top of filters. | May 06 04:10 |
| formic_ | ohh thought you meant a 16 bit binary | May 06 04:10 |
| oiaohm | formic_: 8 bit you start getting image damage from the filter process sooner. | May 06 04:11 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 06 04:11 |
| oiaohm | Gimp has been 8 bit per channel for so long its not funny. | May 06 04:11 |
| oiaohm | I was using cinepaint to get access 16 bit per channel. | May 06 04:11 |
| formic_ | cinepaint? thats amusing - isnt that a gimp fork by hollywood? | May 06 04:12 |
| oiaohm | formic_: yep | May 06 04:13 |
| oiaohm | They upgraded in engine in that. | May 06 04:13 |
| oiaohm | Becuase 8 bit channels was not suitable. | May 06 04:13 |
| oiaohm | That channel weakness is one of the reasons why photoshop produces better results. | May 06 04:14 |
| formic_ | I believe you | May 06 04:16 |
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| DaemonFC | https://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/more-clean-coal-lies-and-cost-overruns-at-duke-energy/ | May 06 05:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: More clean coal lies and cost overruns at Duke Energy. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 57.06 KB | May 06 05:43 |
| oiaohm | Clean coal Australia you got to be kiding me. | May 06 05:47 |
| oiaohm | The Australian power stations burn high sulfer coal because its cheap. | May 06 05:47 |
| DaemonFC | The EPA is starting to crack down on that so Duke is building a "cleaner" coal power plant | May 06 05:48 |
| DaemonFC | which is supposed to get the sulfur and mercury output down, but with the same great greenhouse gas emissions you know and love | May 06 05:48 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Australia has the most advanced powerstation designed for burning coal. | May 06 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | I guess it may kill a few less people in the short term until our planet becomes too fucked up to live on because of climate change. | May 06 05:49 |
| oiaohm | Problem is we burn the worst coal possible. | May 06 05:49 |
| oiaohm | So the output from our stacks is cleaner than the USA stacks. | May 06 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | The EPA will be dismantled if we get Romney and a Republican super majority in Congress, we can't allow this to happen | May 06 05:50 |
| oiaohm | Now if good coal was used the output would be impressive almost pure co2 | May 06 05:50 |
| DaemonFC | of course that would only be one of the horrifying problems that situation would bring | May 06 05:50 |
| oiaohm | No acid rain or other bad stuff. | May 06 05:51 |
| oiaohm | Australia problem is not the powerstation design but the input. | May 06 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | the closest thing in recent history is the period between 2003 and 2005 where the Republicans ran the hosue and senate and Bush was the president | May 06 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | and they did all kinds of bad things | May 06 05:51 |
| DaemonFC | I have a feeling that this entire country is about to suddenly and violently swing to the far right, and then we'll have Republicans back to killing real kids while pretending to save imaginary kids | May 06 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Here in austalia they want to get approval to pump co2 into the ground. | May 06 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Since that is about the only way Australian powerstations can be made cleanner. | May 06 05:53 |
| oiaohm | Without using better grade of coal. | May 06 05:53 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: can you work out what is wrong with pumping co2 into ground. | May 06 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | well, other than nobody is doing it..... | May 06 05:55 |
| DaemonFC | nope, not a single thing! | May 06 05:55 |
| oiaohm | Called a co2 leak | May 06 06:00 |
| oiaohm | Happens in nature at a particular lake. | May 06 06:00 |
| oiaohm | Last time it happened it killed 400 people with the longest distance away being 200 kms. | May 06 06:01 |
| oiaohm | Of a person dieing. | May 06 06:01 |
| oiaohm | co2 in high volume is most effective than a nuke at kill people. DaemonFC | May 06 06:01 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 06 06:12 |
| formic_ | That doesn't even make sense oiaohm. Both the grammar, and the science behind your statement. | May 06 06:13 |
| formic_ | Trying to compare a nuke and co2 leaks is silly enough. Actually suggesting a co2 leak is mor effective at killing people than a nuke is beyond ridiculousness | May 06 06:15 |
| oiaohm | formic_: It is more effective than a nuke if it in volume. | May 06 06:23 |
| formic_ | No it is clearly not | May 06 06:24 |
| formic_ | Have you even heard of Chernobyl? | May 06 06:24 |
| oiaohm | formic_: Even chernobyl has a high live rate than a major co2 leak on scale. | May 06 06:24 |
| formic_ | That's because nobody hangs out in Chernobyl | May 06 06:25 |
| formic_ | Radiation | May 06 06:25 |
| formic_ | co2 leaks have no equivalent that lasts for decades making people sick and killing people | May 06 06:25 |
| formic_ | So you are literally retarded | May 06 06:25 |
| oiaohm | Most co2 leaks are not of scale. | May 06 06:25 |
| oiaohm | The few of scale have almost 100 percent kill rate. | May 06 06:26 |
| formic_ | co2 doesn't hang around out in the open for decades | May 06 06:26 |
| oiaohm | To anyone in the effected area at the time. | May 06 06:26 |
| formic_ | in a well ventilated open area like outside | May 06 06:26 |
| formic_ | i'm an environmentalist, and your extreme example actually damages my work. | May 06 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Then take into account that we are planing on storeing 2000 times the largest natural store of Co2 | May 06 06:27 |
| oiaohm | Death zone is large than a central point of a nuke. | May 06 06:27 |
| formic_ | A nuke just isn't an explosion | May 06 06:28 |
| formic_ | It leaves *radiation* | May 06 06:28 |
| oiaohm | And storing CO2 in large stores leaves time bombs. | May 06 06:28 |
| oiaohm | That can go off at any time. | May 06 06:28 |
| formic_ | man, you | May 06 06:28 |
| formic_ | you're insane | May 06 06:28 |
| oiaohm | Radiation only one factor. | May 06 06:29 |
| formic_ | No wonder you use Windows | May 06 06:29 |
| oiaohm | I don't use windows. | May 06 06:29 |
| oiaohm | You are dealing with a person who models weapon effects. Humans can tollerate so much radition exposure without harm. After the nukes in japan land where nukes it can be clean up to a radition level that humans can tollerate in 50 years | May 06 06:31 |
| oiaohm | But its costly. | May 06 06:31 |
| oiaohm | Chernobyl takes the cheap option. | May 06 06:31 |
| oiaohm | formic_: so did you study the clean up the the japan cities after the two nukes got dropped on them. | May 06 06:33 |
| formic_ | You're dealing with a person with a Mensa membership; whom works in the FBI as a ASE&T. I do Explosives/Incediary device research for them and I work with Hazardous Materials. I'm telling you that you are completely way off base and are doing science injustice. | May 06 06:33 |
| oiaohm | formic_: or is your understand of nuke damage limited to cases like Chernoble that have been left to natural decay. | May 06 06:34 |
| formic_ | Here is my OS version string | May 06 06:34 |
| formic_ | 01:33 CTCP VERSION reply from formic_: xchat 2.8.8 FBI-Linux 3.3.1-3.x86_64 [x86_64/6.39GHz]. | May 06 06:34 |
| oiaohm | Does not matter | May 06 06:34 |
| formic_ | It's called radiation | May 06 06:35 |
| oiaohm | There are two models. | May 06 06:35 |
| formic_ | Stop being a complete ignoramus. | May 06 06:35 |
| oiaohm | One is natural decay one is clean and containment. | May 06 06:35 |
| oiaohm | Both have different kill rates and numbers. | May 06 06:35 |
| formic_ | Are you reading the pamphlet of some extremist misguided environmental group? | May 06 06:35 |
| formic_ | I eat lunch monthly with real professionals who deal with climate science. | May 06 06:36 |
| formic_ | I'll bounce off your co2 verses radiation theory with them. | May 06 06:36 |
| oiaohm | The thing I am talking about is not a climate science issue. | May 06 06:36 |
| formic_ | I usually don't have good jokes :> | May 06 06:36 |
| oiaohm | Its some who does fluid dynamics. | May 06 06:36 |
| oiaohm | Co2 sits low flows over ground like a liquid when it leaks in volume. | May 06 06:37 |
| oiaohm | That is when it destructive. | May 06 06:37 |
| oiaohm | Storing vaste volumes of Co2 creates the perfect envorment for a fluid flow. | May 06 06:38 |
| oiaohm | This happens in nature in smaller scales. | May 06 06:39 |
| oiaohm | Nature gives us warning it stupid it disreguard them. | May 06 06:39 |
| oiaohm | In a fllow there is no other gas other than co2 n2 and o2 are displaced. | May 06 06:39 |
| formic_ | I can't trust the opinion of someone who can't spell right 60% of the time. | May 06 06:42 |
| formic_ | Sorry | May 06 06:42 |
| oiaohm | That is dyslexia. | May 06 06:44 |
| oiaohm | You are fine to check out the fluid effect. And find out that storage not exactly a safe option. | May 06 06:44 |
| oiaohm | co2 being mixed with other items is required to make it harmless. | May 06 06:45 |
| oiaohm | Just because I have dyslexia does not make me stupid formic_. I am not kidding on the scale of the problem. The one natural flow happens about 1 ever 50 years and has been killing as long as people can remember. | May 06 06:47 |
| oiaohm | That is thousands of years of killing. | May 06 06:47 |
| formic_ | The guilt-by-disability wildcard? I had no idea you had a disability. | May 06 06:48 |
| formic_ | It doesn't effect me believing you or not. | May 06 06:48 |
| oiaohm | The disability is true and compared to where I started I do English very well today. | May 06 06:49 |
| oiaohm | But you should have raised it as a excuse not to believe | May 06 06:50 |
| oiaohm | That shows your own weakness. formic_ | May 06 06:50 |
| formic_ | When someone has so many typos that's usually a mental red flag for me. | May 06 06:50 |
| oiaohm | Do you know that most people with dyslexia have higher than average intelligence. | May 06 06:51 |
| formic_ | A red flag that suggests the lack of mental capacity for complex or abstract thinking. | May 06 06:51 |
| oiaohm | Completely wrong. | May 06 06:51 |
| formic_ | I'm talking about the extreme number of typos. | May 06 06:51 |
| oiaohm | What is wrong with English. | May 06 06:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Reddit's TestPAC is campaigning to defeat Lamar Smith, SOPA's daddy http://identi.ca/url/69511856 !eff !fsf | May 06 06:52 | |
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| oiaohm | Is there any logic to it. formic_ | May 06 06:52 |
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| formic_ | I don't think there is anything wrong with English. | May 06 06:52 |
| oiaohm | I can do complex logical thinking better than most. Even abstract thinking better the most. | May 06 06:52 |
| oiaohm | English is neither. | May 06 06:53 |
| formic_ | Oh don't get me wrong. I'm just saying what I usually do when I see typos. | May 06 06:53 |
| formic_ | I'm bound to run into corner cases. | May 06 06:53 |
| oiaohm | No this is not a corner case. | May 06 06:53 |
| oiaohm | The higher you logic style the more trouble english will cause you. | May 06 06:54 |
| formic_ | 90% of the time when someone makes a lot of typos; they truly are dumbasses. | May 06 06:54 |
| formic_ | At least from my own experience | May 06 06:54 |
| oiaohm | You have seen me enough. | May 06 06:54 |
| oiaohm | I am not a idiot I come from logical points of view. | May 06 06:54 |
| oiaohm | This might mean we might be looking at a problem from different scales | May 06 06:55 |
| formic_ | I see a lot of stuff people write all over the place. | May 06 06:55 |
| formic_ | Not just stuff you write. | May 06 06:55 |
| oiaohm | The thing to look for is a lack of logic. | May 06 06:55 |
| oiaohm | A true dumb ass cannot do logic either. | May 06 06:56 |
| formic_ | If you know english you can explain abstract and complex ideas properly. | May 06 06:56 |
| oiaohm | Most of the stuff I do I explain in graphics and formulas. | May 06 06:56 |
| formic_ | There is logic in english if you know what you are doing. What good are abstract and complex ideas if you can't communicate them? | May 06 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Notice what I just said. | May 06 06:57 |
| formic_ | A person who does not know formulas will not understand you. | May 06 06:57 |
| oiaohm | Do I need English most of the time no. | May 06 06:57 |
| formic_ | A regular scientist can break down a complex idea and form it so a layman can understand. | May 06 06:57 |
| oiaohm | The graphics can get a lot across particularly when its videos of the effects. | May 06 06:57 |
| oiaohm | A picture says a 1000 words and it does not have a language problem. | May 06 06:58 |
| formic_ | It requires a person who can communicate those words before a picture could have 1000 of them. | May 06 06:59 |
| oiaohm | There is more than just English to communicate ideas. | May 06 06:59 |
| oiaohm | My side is maths and physics I can get a very long way showing and idea without using a single word of English when I can do formulas and pictures. | May 06 07:01 |
| oiaohm | Maths is basically a logical language. | May 06 07:01 |
| formic_ | Lets say you show someone a picture of an Apple. Without speaking and explaining what your meaning is, they will be thinking of all the other words that come to mind. | May 06 07:01 |
| formic_ | You might show them thinking 'Hey this is an apple'. They might be thinking 'Oh man I'm hungry'. | May 06 07:02 |
| oiaohm | Just like English a picture has to have context or its meaningless.. | May 06 07:04 |
| oiaohm | And the context can be built by other pictures | May 06 07:04 |
| oiaohm | I know this idea is kinda strange to a person who has English as dominate. | May 06 07:05 |
| oiaohm | formic_: because you example of a picture of a apple is the same as asking the mean of a person of the word apple in English no context meaning can go all over the place. | May 06 07:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes picture context does not have the same order rules. | May 06 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | formic_: Did you hear about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac? | May 06 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | He stayed up all night trying to figure out if there really was a dog. | May 06 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshiper? | May 06 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | He sold his soul to Santa. | May 06 07:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Really those jokes are poor taste. Mind you when I was young god most likely would have end up ogd | May 06 07:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: the odds of any letter in the right place when I was young was almost zero. | May 06 07:30 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Yes I still have some books when I have to as ot and an as na | May 06 07:31 |
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| DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/05/05/1928238/missouri-high-school-principal-resigns-after-posing-as-student-on-facebook | May 06 07:44 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Love this. The Ring from outer space. What Makers do. http://ur1.ca/96oc0... http://b1t.it/bp2S | May 06 08:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @ghodmode Study explains how retailers stop Linux from entering the market - The H Open Source: News and Features http://ghodmo.de/JUwzFu | May 06 10:30 | |
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| iophk | '"Elop was not hired as a boss for a burning platform," said John Strand, founder and CEO of Danish consultancy Strand Consult. "He put the platform on fire."' | May 06 10:44 |
| iophk | http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/sns-rt-us-nokia-microsoftbre84504c-20120506,0,1721158.story | May 06 10:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia's woes might call for Microsoft aid - baltimoresun.com .::. Size~: 207.9 KB | May 06 10:44 |
| MinceR | like m$ will save the nokia they killed | May 06 10:45 |
| iophk | It can only prolong the death at this point. | May 06 10:47 |
| oiaohm | Calling from aid from Microsoft will not save nokia | May 06 10:48 |
| oiaohm | from what I can see | May 06 10:48 |
| oiaohm | maybe calling to google or apple. | May 06 10:48 |
| iophk | Apple would not be interested, but Nokia could stop the slide into oblivion with a quick release of an Android phone. Losing Meego was a big mistake. | May 06 10:51 |
| MinceR | they still have MeeGo/Harmattan, they could release more phones with it | May 06 10:53 |
| MinceR | also, they could still try to sell the n9 globally | May 06 10:53 |
| iophk | I've read of people making trips to countries where the N9 or N900 is still for sale. | May 06 10:56 |
| iophk | Of course it would also be necessary to fire the people that Elop brought in. | May 06 11:04 |
| MinceR | and elop himself | May 06 11:06 |
| iophk | Firing with fines and penalties for him. | May 06 11:09 |
| oiaohm | iophk: apple might be interested with on going dispute with samsung. | May 06 11:34 |
| oiaohm | iophk: to help nokia out. | May 06 11:34 |
| oiaohm | iophk: nokia does have as an asset production. | May 06 11:35 |
| iophk | Helping Nokia would only hurt Apple. I can see them doing something so stupid, but it wouldn't make sense. | May 06 11:36 |
| oiaohm | iophk: does helping samsung that is making android to complete with apple help apple. | May 06 11:37 |
| oiaohm | iophk: question is a hard one for apple if or if not nokia is worth helping. | May 06 11:37 |
| iophk | Right now it's a two horse race. Any loss by Android will get picked up by Apple. If Apple helps turn it into a three way race, there is a good probability that loss of market by Android could go to Nokia. | May 06 11:40 |
| iophk | Money splits better two ways than three ways. | May 06 11:43 |
| iophk | It's to both Apple and Android's advantage to keep Zune out of the race. | May 06 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Thing is I am seeing that nokia could fall to a point that apple could buy it out right. | May 06 11:44 |
| oiaohm | So its not a case of a competitor that can come back. | May 06 11:44 |
| iophk | That would be a good thing for Nokia, but what would be the gain there for Apple? | May 06 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Apple having its own independant production so being able to force patents on android makers harder. | May 06 11:45 |
| oiaohm | So make more income from android. | May 06 11:45 |
| iophk | Nokia sold many key patents and has moved towards outsourcing hardware. | May 06 11:46 |
| oiaohm | Thing is it still holds the license to use those patents. | May 06 11:46 |
| oiaohm | That apple would gain as well. | May 06 11:46 |
| oiaohm | And they have not fully outsource there hardware production yet. | May 06 11:46 |
| oiaohm | leave it another 18 months nokia would not be worth anything to Apple. | May 06 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Other than maybe the patent rights to keep MS partly off there ass. | May 06 11:47 |
| iophk | Elop has been able to tear down a lot already. There may not be anything left soon except for the licenses for the formerly owned patents. | May 06 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Current point there is something to sell. | May 06 11:48 |
| oiaohm | But ELop keeps on current path nothing will be left. | May 06 11:48 |
| iophk | The only way to change course would be to remove Elop: | May 06 11:49 |
| iophk | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/ | May 06 11:49 |
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| iophk | but that alone is not enough. Those he has brought in need to be rousted along with those that brought him in to begin with. | May 06 11:49 |
| iophk | He had help getting in. | May 06 11:50 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yep best way is a complete aquirement and mass firing. | May 06 11:50 |
| oiaohm | Question is who has the resources to buy nokia out right. | May 06 11:50 |
| iophk | Also putting an F-Secure guy (windows) in charge of the board does not signal a likelihood of improvement. | May 06 11:50 |
| iophk | Google has the resources. Apple would, too. | May 06 11:50 |
| oiaohm | HTC maybe. | May 06 11:51 |
| oiaohm | But that is about it samsung is too busy to aquire anyone. | May 06 11:51 |
| iophk | It may be that the only value left in Nokia is the patent licenses. | May 06 11:51 |
| iophk | http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/1199124/1/.html | May 06 11:54 |
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| iophk | Ollila was a proponent of open standards when he built up Nokia. It sure took a short time to tear it down. | May 06 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Ακροδεξιές παρελάσεις και προπηλακισμοί σε εκλογικά τμήματα" from http://identi.ca/url/69516350 | May 06 11:55 | |
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| iophk | He should be calling for removal of Elop, not endorsing him. | May 06 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Lengthening Arm of Uncle Sam’s ‘Pirate’ Justice http://goo.gl/MwBSz | May 06 11:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] LaserSaber brings 'Star Wars' swordplay to life http://goo.gl/OyZ96 | May 06 12:02 | |
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| MinceR | 130121 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] LaserSaber brings 'Star Wars' swordplay to life http://goo.gl/OyZ96 | May 06 12:04 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @michaelmarth know #OSS devs to join #adobe team? http://bit.ly/KEo40Q http://ur1.ca/96pa5 (remote OK) pls DM or mmarth@adobe | May 06 12:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Warnings as commons cows released http://goo.gl/fQF8I the #politics jokes just write themselves with that headline | May 06 12:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The religious fanatics behind Tory plans to block porn - http://bit.ly/J0qfRn behold the British Taliban (v @ralpost) #censorship | May 06 12:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: The religious fanatics behind Tory plans to block porn - http://bit.ly/J0qfRn behold the British Taliban (v @ralpost) #censors | May 06 12:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] With 8.8% market share, Apple has 73% of cell phone profits - Apple 2.0 - Fortune Tech http://goo.gl/I1xfT #mobile #stats | May 06 12:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "we're aware people are having a hard time, we're causing most of it" #Osbourne #politics | May 06 12:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ok, so I added the rather obvious non-verbal after the comma on that quote lol | May 06 12:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Big Bang Theory - Intro (frame by frame) http://goo.gl/olhtU #geeks #tvseries | May 06 12:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] updated info on STOPACTA site - http://bit.ly/Ab7RxV useful stuff on what the EP committees are doing when #acta | May 06 12:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Lights, Camera… Covert Action: The Deep Politics of Hollywood http://goo.gl/7iyoI #usa #mic #propaganda | May 06 13:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Best Survival Blogs On The Web | Before It's News http://goo.gl/7O25i #preppers | May 06 13:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a childbirth class for first time moms called "A womb with a view" | May 06 13:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America http://goo.gl/Qdk4d #usa #martiallaw #policestate | May 06 13:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the horse race description seems somehow apt for an election of a mare.....erm.....mayor #politics #verbalgag | May 06 13:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] was the term "having a mare" named in honour of #Boris? #London #politics | May 06 13:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I sometimes wonder if the "organist" in a band is just code for "he's the wanker but he owns the transport so we need him" | May 06 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] Oracle v. Google: fair use is a fairy tale -- in reality, Android hijacked Sun Microsystems' Java http://bit.ly/IECXTR | May 06 13:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows 8 nu suportă DVD-uri video http://ur1.ca/96pwr #microsoft #video #dvd #windows #movie #film | May 06 14:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] lol... I thought it was a little stange to have use Skydrive...... surely they know about other hosting options.. | May 06 14:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #KDE 4.8.3 Plasma and Applications are Available for #Kubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin http://ur1.ca/96pxw #software #gnu #linux #ubuntu | May 06 14:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 12 Must-See Skywatching Events in 2012 - Yahoo! News http://goo.gl/dod2n #astronomy | May 06 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: A big #eLearning wake-up call here for skeptics and European universities alike http://t http://p.ost.im/p/eptBEy | May 06 14:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Back to reality, after 4 days of #sailing; on train en-route home, already connected and on-line. | May 06 15:10 | |
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| sultan2 | msb__: Hallo USA! | May 06 15:22 |
| msb__ | Hi sultan2 how are you doing? | May 06 15:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ Latest post by @ggreenwald on the FBI's ongoing efforts to obtain "backdoor" access to all Internet communications: http://t.co/jF7WdL7Z | May 06 15:23 | |
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| sultan2 | gut gut ;)) and you? | May 06 15:24 |
| msb__ | ok. Fighting ghouls in cola. | May 06 15:24 |
| sultan2 | :-P | May 06 15:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "... it is a strategy to maintain the prosperity of the rich by expelling everybody else from a civilisation which no longer needs them." | May 06 15:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just when I thought things could not get much worse. Tony Blair has said be will become more active in British politics. #Bliar | May 06 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @satipera Just when I thought things could not get much worse. Tony Blair has said be will become more active in British politics. #Bliar | May 06 16:12 | |
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| AdmFubar_ | dunno if anyone has seen this one.. i found it amusing ^_^ http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/04/microsoft-responds-to-critics-over-botnet-bruhaha/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+KrebsOnSecurity+%28Krebs+on+Security%29 | May 06 16:13 |
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| AdmFubar_ | laters all | May 06 16:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Waylon Smithers "Women and seamen don't mix." #Simpsons | May 06 16:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera Just when I thought things could not get much worse. Tony Blair has said be will become more active in British politics. #Bliar | May 06 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ever had one of those days where you want to chuck your computer out the window, and then back a bus over it? | May 06 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My computer is doing stuff and slowing down to a crawl *and I don't know why* ... sad to say I miss Windows task manager | May 06 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron ♻ @cstross Security theatre is preoccupied with What and How. Real security lies in understanding Who and Why | May 06 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Pirate Bay is still not blocked in my part of the UK. (I said I'd post daily-ish reports) http://b1t.it/bp8N | May 06 16:43 | |
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| formic_ | 10:23 <@msb__> ok. Fighting ghouls in cola. | May 06 16:45 |
| formic_ | waste of time | May 06 16:45 |
| msb__ | No formic_! One of the ghouls revealed that he is part of an anti-Linux group in COLA. Blew their cover! I am about to publish! | May 06 16:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @csoghoian: Apple OSX shipped OSX with Filevault disk encryption in debug mode, users' passwords exposed http://t.c... http://b1t.it/bp8W | May 06 16:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When they do use this British Pirate Party link http://ur1.ca/96r3f | May 06 16:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Nvidia #Linux Display Driver 295.49 released. Fixes problems with Geforce series 6 and 7, performance boost http://is.gd/DLWCLS | May 06 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Passport check when paying with credit card. How weird is this? Filling station claims new rules, couldn't show them t... http://b1t.it/bp9h | May 06 17:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC's economics editor tried to vote a day before the election and complained on twitter the polling station was closed. http://ur1.ca/96r5d | May 06 17:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Coffee may not be imperitive for success, @sandersch, but it is *certainly* necessary for my brain to function | May 06 17:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @sandersch ''EA gaat games uitbrengen voor !Linux'' http://twk.rs/nj-3 | May 06 17:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Dradio: Urheberrecht Science Fiction ohne Kopierschutz http://ur1.ca/96r7b #drm | May 06 17:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This looks GREAT~ ♻brainwane 1 more day to apply to #hacker school - #women, #scholarships available http://ur1.ca/96r6l | May 06 17:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Kansas abortion bill lets doctors lie to patients, withhold cancer treatment http://identi.ca/url/69521587 | May 06 17:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Interessante Liste von Lobbypedia: "Seitenwechsler im Überblick" http://ur1.ca/96r8t | May 06 17:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The kworker saga... still not solved. #Linux http://ur1.ca/96r9m | May 06 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thelovebug It would appear as though my fellow Dentians on the west-side of the Atlantic are starting to surface. Good morning UTC- ... | May 06 17:32 | |
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| formic_ | msb__ let me see when you do | May 06 17:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @satipera British Pirate Party link to the Pirate Bay http://ur1.ca/96r3f to evade ISP blocks, apparently (I can't... http://b1t.it/bp9W | May 06 17:37 | |
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| msb__ | formic_: Just keep watching COLA. There will be a flurry of denials from all the ghouls. | May 06 17:37 |
| _Goblin | what cola? what for? | May 06 17:38 |
| _Goblin | other than watching the wintrolls get more rabid? | May 06 17:38 |
| formic_ | msb__ I don't see anything on cola | May 06 17:45 |
| formic_ | I'd rather not have to dig through the threads to find your 'published' work | May 06 17:45 |
| formic_ | It makes my brain hurt reading the material of these idiots | May 06 17:46 |
| msb__ | I'll start a new thread with it. | May 06 17:46 |
| DiabloD3 | wait | May 06 17:48 |
| DiabloD3 | you want brain hurt? | May 06 17:48 |
| DiabloD3 | http://pastebin.com/mr8xbErb | May 06 17:48 |
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| DiabloD3 | brain hurt. | May 06 17:49 |
| formic_ | msb_ lol now i've seen everything | May 06 17:56 |
| formic_ | I just looked up my name | May 06 17:56 |
| formic_ | https://groups.google.com/d/topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/dWFjSFxok0I/discussion | May 06 17:56 |
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| formic_ | Not only am I apparently Brandon, but I'm also msb__ | May 06 17:56 |
| DiabloD3 | no, Im sparticus! | May 06 17:56 |
| formic_ | I guess he missed the part where I was making fun of msb over the kde stuff | May 06 17:59 |
| formic_ | And the IRC tech support | May 06 18:00 |
| formic_ | lol | May 06 18:00 |
| _Goblin | formic_, doesn't matter if you are or not......that post was Foster talking... | May 06 18:00 |
| _Goblin | Foster can't even get his logic right.... | May 06 18:00 |
| _Goblin | "I believe formic is another Mark S. Bilk nym, but I'm not sure. " | May 06 18:00 |
| _Goblin | How can he believe but at the same time not be sure? | May 06 18:00 |
| formic_ | Im not familiar with cola other than knowing its just a bunch of nutters on both sides of the pond | May 06 18:00 |
| _Goblin | Hey! COLA is great...... | May 06 18:00 |
| formic_ | thats a cowardly way of accusing someone when you have no proof | May 06 18:01 |
| _Goblin | no thats a thick person who doesn't know his own mind | May 06 18:01 |
| formic_ | "i think X might be Y, but im not sure" | May 06 18:01 |
| formic_ | normal people put that in their mind and wait for evidence | May 06 18:01 |
| _Goblin | But hey... Who cares? Its Foster/Gary Stewart/Flatfish | May 06 18:01 |
| _Goblin | Microsoft advocate to the core. | May 06 18:02 |
| _Goblin | and I think he's great. | May 06 18:02 |
| formic_ | hes probably losing money on malware removal | May 06 18:02 |
| _Goblin | he puts on a great show... | May 06 18:02 |
| formic_ | less junk windows pcs to go around | May 06 18:02 |
| msb__ | formic_: "Im not familiar with cola other than knowing its just a bunch of nutters on both sides of the pond" | May 06 18:11 |
| msb__ | formic_: Are you saying that both the anti-Linux and pro-Linux posters in COLA are nutters? Or by "pond" do you mean the Atlantic Ocean? | May 06 18:12 |
| formic_ | everyone on COLA is nuts | May 06 18:12 |
| _Goblin | nah...not everyone.... | May 06 18:12 |
| _Goblin | do you blame people for getting cross? | May 06 18:12 |
| _Goblin | why do the wintrolls go there? | May 06 18:13 |
| formic_ | A sane person would be gone in one week. | May 06 18:13 |
| _Goblin | if they didn't attend then the people there would not get distracted by the likes of Gary Stewart | May 06 18:13 |
| _Goblin | it would just be like any other forum... | May 06 18:13 |
| formic_ | maybe ill be less hostile, they are all trolls | May 06 18:14 |
| formic_ | perhaps not crazy but they do troll | May 06 18:14 |
| _Goblin | and formic, the post you made on Roy's site is no different to the types of comments they make on COLA, the difference is, you are not being attacked by vulgar Wintrolls | May 06 18:14 |
| formic_ | Two things that stand out about COLA | May 06 18:15 |
| _Goblin | your own issue is that unfortunately.... | May 06 18:15 |
| formic_ | 1) Wintrolls publishing articles and bug reports to make linux look bad. | May 06 18:15 |
| formic_ | 2) Linux advocates publishing articles and bug reports to make Windows/Apple look bad. | May 06 18:15 |
| formic_ | Its just fighting back and forth | May 06 18:16 |
| _Goblin | no matter what you do in life, you'll always be Brandon and for that you have my sympathy. ;) | May 06 18:16 |
| formic_ | It's better to advocate on strength than by point out someone elses weakness. | May 06 18:16 |
| msb__ | The anti-Linux posters use smears: lintards, linturds, freetards, freeturds, lienux. | May 06 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Young women are (still) the best internet bait and 5 other lessons from ESPN’s blogger scandal http://goo.gl/3xuLF | May 06 18:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Young women are (still) the best internet bait and 5 other lessons from ESPN’s blogger scandal — paidContent .::. Size~: 68.27 KB | May 06 18:17 |
| msb__ | The Linux users never do that. | May 06 18:17 |
| formic_ | "wintrolls" ? | May 06 18:17 |
| msb__ | The anti-Linux posters constantly lie about Linux. We don't lie about Windows. | May 06 18:17 |
| formic_ | "appil" | May 06 18:17 |
| formic_ | I can't comment, it just looks from my POV that its just a bunch of fighting. | May 06 18:18 |
| msb__ | Only one guy says appil. I think he's afraid of getting sued. | May 06 18:18 |
| _Goblin | it is...thats why its a great read....you can see what the wintrolls are really frightened of by how hard they attack a subject | May 06 18:18 |
| formic_ | IT's a giant dick waving contest. | May 06 18:18 |
| msb__ | What should we call the anti-Linux posters? | May 06 18:19 |
| formic_ | call the microsoft agents | May 06 18:19 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 06 18:19 |
| msb__ | They are not "trolls" in the classic Usenet sense. | May 06 18:19 |
| _Goblin | you think those clowns would be paid by Microsoft? | May 06 18:19 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 06 18:19 |
| msb__ | I do call them MS agents. | May 06 18:19 |
| formic_ | +1 msb__ | May 06 18:19 |
| msb__ | Those "clowns" are vicious sociopaths. Just the sort of astroturfers that MS would hire (maybe thru PR agencies). | May 06 18:20 |
| _Goblin | they are more likely to be small business with an interest in the Microsoft eccosystem remaining and have too much time on their hands through lack of business. | May 06 18:20 |
| formic_ | I think the small microsoft shops are too busy gouging their customers | May 06 18:21 |
| _Goblin | the one thing they are not are successful people....in the case of Gary Stewart/Foster/Flatfish...why would a successful person with money spend years getting "entertainment" in COLA? They haven't got anything else to do? These people tragically are not successful and need our pity. | May 06 18:21 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: What proof do you have of that? What reasoning? They all use the same smear words, attack the same people, tell the same lies, even followup to each other within seconds. | May 06 18:21 |
| formic_ | the fighting is feeding the microsoft agents | May 06 18:22 |
| formic_ | if people stopped fighting, the money would be wasted | May 06 18:22 |
| _Goblin | well its sounder reasoning that thinking that COLA is a useful medium to promote Windows and cheapen linux | May 06 18:22 |
| _Goblin | how much "mainstream" exposure does COLA get? lol.... | May 06 18:22 |
| formic_ | im sure it gets a lot | May 06 18:22 |
| _Goblin | since MS makes money from the mass consumer, the only people they are trying to convince in COLA are the ones already using Linux... | May 06 18:22 |
| msb__ | COLA has thousands of subscribers just via google groups. | May 06 18:22 |
| _Goblin | thousands yes... | May 06 18:23 |
| formic_ | does that count all the sockpuppets? | May 06 18:23 |
| _Goblin | but it would be far better to spend that energy in a mainstream forum... | May 06 18:23 |
| msb__ | Microsoft has billions of dollars to waste on propaganda. | May 06 18:23 |
| _Goblin | so then why is not the same aggression seen in the Ubuntu newsgroup? | May 06 18:23 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: What mainstream forum? They would be kicked out. | May 06 18:23 |
| _Goblin | really? | May 06 18:23 |
| _Goblin | rubbish | May 06 18:23 |
| _Goblin | look at (up until recently) Microsoft watch.... | May 06 18:24 |
| _Goblin | when Jo Wilcox was running that it was hellishly popular | May 06 18:24 |
| formic_ | usenet has no censors | May 06 18:24 |
| _Goblin | so? | May 06 18:24 |
| formic_ | websites do | May 06 18:24 |
| _Goblin | isn't a clever non offensive pro-MS piece better than what we see in COLA? | May 06 18:24 |
| _Goblin | are you really suggesting that "lintard" is the pinnacle of MS PR? | May 06 18:25 |
| _Goblin | come on....have a day off. | May 06 18:25 |
| formic_ | microsoft hires young people to do it | May 06 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hacking work: How to break the rules to work better http://goo.gl/eMXbH | May 06 18:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BBC News - Hacking work: How to break the rules to work better .::. Size~: 100.25 KB | May 06 18:25 |
| formic_ | wasn't there one guy who bragged about his laptop | May 06 18:25 |
| msb__ | It's a local maximum -- one type of MS propaganda. | May 06 18:25 |
| _Goblin | Did you know MagPI magazine is hosted on Skydrive? Want to make a conspiracy on that? | May 06 18:25 |
| _Goblin | formic_, you have the nerve to say people in COLA are crazy? | May 06 18:26 |
| msb__ | The anti-Linux spammers are crazy in that they are sociopaths -- harming others to benefit themselves. | May 06 18:26 |
| _Goblin | and formic_ it does hire young people, it sends bloggers gifts...we've written about that before | May 06 18:26 |
| formic_ | isn't the definition of crazy repeating the same thing expecting a different result? | May 06 18:26 |
| _Goblin | not really, because if you have an honest held belief in something then its merely reinforcing that. | May 06 18:27 |
| formic_ | young people use vulgar slang and insults | May 06 18:27 |
| iophk | msb__: are you sure they are benefiting even themselves? Maybe they are into just causing harm. | May 06 18:27 |
| _Goblin | like MSB and his 911 ideas. | May 06 18:27 |
| _Goblin | formic_, well Foster/Flatfish has been going at it for over 10 years.... | May 06 18:27 |
| msb__ | I am using "crazy" in the sense of a recognized mental illness. | May 06 18:28 |
| _Goblin | started when he was 6 did he? | May 06 18:28 |
| formic_ | Microsoft could literally say they aren't "funding" astroturfing. However they could be giving out free gifts to those who damage linux the most. | May 06 18:28 |
| msb__ | iophk: People who enjoy causing harm are by definition sociopaths/psychopaths. | May 06 18:28 |
| _Goblin | msb__, well you can't have your theories both ways...either you think they are "crazy" or they are on the payroll of microsoft... | May 06 18:28 |
| _Goblin | I'd suggest the former rather than the latter... | May 06 18:29 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: They are sociopaths whom MS pays. | May 06 18:29 |
| _Goblin | of course... and you know this how? | May 06 18:29 |
| formic_ | someone who is willingly shilling for microsoft would be insane | May 06 18:29 |
| msb__ | Several of them have posted 29,000 vicious lying anti-Linux articles. | May 06 18:30 |
| _Goblin | msb__, what you are looking for is a pantomime bad guy..... | May 06 18:30 |
| _Goblin | so? | May 06 18:30 |
| _Goblin | Roy used to post alot | May 06 18:30 |
| _Goblin | I've posted a few thousand | May 06 18:30 |
| _Goblin | youre not doing too bad yourself | May 06 18:30 |
| _Goblin | I've spent 4 years writing on the same site... am I mad? | May 06 18:31 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: No, I am postulating by far the most likely explanation for what's going on in cola. | May 06 18:31 |
| formic_ | You don't have a 50,000+ article count | May 06 18:31 |
| _Goblin | and formic_ look at half of them.... | May 06 18:31 |
| msb__ | Roy didn't lie when he was posting. | May 06 18:31 |
| _Goblin | I'd guess in terms of wordage, my total online writing comes close to that of the wintroll | May 06 18:32 |
| _Goblin | so Msb, whats your feeling when I think you are unhinged or deluded at your 911 theories? Am I mad? are you? | May 06 18:33 |
| _Goblin | one of us is wrong. | May 06 18:33 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: But you don't lie (except to propagate the govt lies about 9/11). | May 06 18:33 |
| _Goblin | ah..... and you prove this how? | May 06 18:33 |
| _Goblin | by what you've read? | May 06 18:33 |
| formic_ | msb__ i don't think that is lying | May 06 18:33 |
| formic_ | he honestly believes the official story | May 06 18:33 |
| formic_ | doesn't make him a liar | May 06 18:33 |
| _Goblin | But I think he's deluded. | May 06 18:34 |
| _Goblin | What do you think formic? | May 06 18:34 |
| _Goblin | the point is.... | May 06 18:34 |
| _Goblin | not to knock msb and his theories... | May 06 18:34 |
| _Goblin | but to say that this is the internet...get over it. | May 06 18:34 |
| formic_ | I don't trust the gov't story but I'm not going to jump on crazy theories like thermite dust. | May 06 18:34 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: Go to my website, the 911 page, and follow the links to the various 911 research sites. I did not create those ideas, those physics papers. | May 06 18:34 |
| _Goblin | don't start msb.... | May 06 18:34 |
| msb__ | They are NOT theories, and they are not mine. | May 06 18:35 |
| _Goblin | you claim I help keep a lie by the government... | May 06 18:35 |
| formic_ | I think its very simple: Bin Laden was trained and worked for the CIA | May 06 18:35 |
| msb__ | formic_: That's certainly true. | May 06 18:35 |
| _Goblin | I claim you are easily led.... other people can look at mine and your views and decide for themselves. | May 06 18:35 |
| formic_ | the CIA benefited a lot out of 9/11 | May 06 18:35 |
| _Goblin | of course it did... | May 06 18:35 |
| _Goblin | it was used as a rallying cry to push whatever they wanted | May 06 18:36 |
| formic_ | I don't believe Bin Laden was ever off their payroll | May 06 18:36 |
| msb__ | Not just the CIA, but the whole ultra-wealthy control class known as the NWO. | May 06 18:36 |
| _Goblin | 911 was also used by the UK government to release all its bad news on 9/11 | May 06 18:36 |
| formic_ | the NWO tells the CIA what to do | May 06 18:36 |
| _Goblin | people were distracted with the disaster to notice.... | May 06 18:36 |
| msb__ | formic_: correct | May 06 18:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Government of Iceland Plans a Migration to Open Source Software http://is.gd/qbph9M | May 06 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Cause — and Questions — in #Cambodia - http://nyti.ms/K4cssq depressing; let's hope some good comes of it (v @bdarcus) #deforestation | May 06 18:37 | |
| formic_ | banksters | May 06 18:37 |
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| _Goblin | Formic... NWO? | May 06 18:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mathieu Young's Photographs of Illegal Logging in Cambodia - NYTimes.com .::. Size~: 68.16 KB | May 06 18:37 |
| msb__ | 911 was used as the excuse to destroy the US Bill of Rights. | May 06 18:37 |
| _Goblin | New World Order? | May 06 18:37 |
| formic_ | it doesnt take much to figure out who is running the world | May 06 18:37 |
| formic_ | who does government pay for its debt? | May 06 18:37 |
| _Goblin | and you wonder why people think you are Brandon!..... lol..... | May 06 18:37 |
| formic_ | thats who runs the world | May 06 18:37 |
| _Goblin | yep... | May 06 18:37 |
| _Goblin | says someone who is unemployed I'm guessing | May 06 18:37 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: watch the videos linked on my homepage. | May 06 18:37 |
| _Goblin | no | May 06 18:38 |
| formic_ | _Goblin - there are a lot of conspiracy theorists in Hamilton | May 06 18:38 |
| _Goblin | you watch mine.... read my views.... | May 06 18:38 |
| formic_ | I'm part of the Hamilton Anarchists society, we talk about banksters all the time | May 06 18:38 |
| _Goblin | you wouldn't change your views....they are yours... Your silly videos won't change mine | May 06 18:38 |
| _Goblin | formic_, of course...silly me... | May 06 18:38 |
| _Goblin | unemployed? | May 06 18:38 |
| formic_ | no | May 06 18:39 |
| _Goblin | low income? | May 06 18:39 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: Those videos are full of irrefutable _evidence_. | May 06 18:39 |
| formic_ | self-employed mid income | May 06 18:39 |
| _Goblin | so why are you still in the system? paying taxes et al? | May 06 18:39 |
| formic_ | IT contract work | May 06 18:39 |
| _Goblin | this evil NWO needs you to fight it! | May 06 18:39 |
| _Goblin | or do you evade tax? | May 06 18:39 |
| formic_ | its illegal | May 06 18:39 |
| _Goblin | but...its evil! | May 06 18:39 |
| _Goblin | its run by the NWO? | May 06 18:39 |
| formic_ | all i can do is fight to change the laws | May 06 18:39 |
| formic_ | i cant break the law to fight to NWO | May 06 18:40 |
| formic_ | thats what they want | May 06 18:40 |
| _Goblin | how can we look to support you "freedom fighters" if you won't tackle the issues? | May 06 18:40 |
| formic_ | then they can send in their UN troops | May 06 18:40 |
| _Goblin | ah of course..... | May 06 18:40 |
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| _Goblin | and black helicopters... | May 06 18:40 |
| _Goblin | don't forget them | May 06 18:40 |
| formic_ | whats with this black helicopters stuff | May 06 18:40 |
| formic_ | thats 90s shit | May 06 18:40 |
| _Goblin | and if Brandon was here (lol) ..it would be neanderthals too. | May 06 18:40 |
| _Goblin | changed colour did they? | May 06 18:41 |
| formic_ | the gov't has insectoid drones | May 06 18:41 |
| _Goblin | what are they now? | May 06 18:41 |
| _Goblin | pink ones? | May 06 18:41 |
| _Goblin | with a little sparkly number on? | May 06 18:41 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: When you refuse to access the data provided by intelligent people, then you are just bullshitting. | May 06 18:41 |
| _Goblin | really... | May 06 18:41 |
| _Goblin | show me an intelligent person talking msb...I'll listen | May 06 18:41 |
| formic_ | http://technabob.com/blog/2011/11/07/insect-surveillanc-drone/ | May 06 18:41 |
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| formic_ | !google insect drones | May 06 18:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 'Pop Up' Technique Could Mass Produce Insect-Like Drones | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pop-up-technique-could-mass-produce-insect-like-drones/ | May 06 18:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - U.S. military drones that are so small they even look like insects ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2013802/U-S-military-drones-small-look-like-insects.html | May 06 18:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - This Insect Spies All: Miniature Surveillance Drones - Technabob | http://technabob.com/blog/2011/11/07/insect-surveillanc-drone/ | May 06 18:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Microdrones, Some as Small as Bugs, Are Poised to Alter War ... | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/world/20drones.html%3Fpagewanted%3Dall | May 06 18:41 |
| msb__ | Watch the David Icke video linked on my homepage. It's a good review. | May 06 18:42 |
| _Goblin | finish this msb...I'm not interested in your madcap views.... | May 06 18:42 |
| formic_ | msb__ you realize David Icke thinks the moon is a reptilian moon base? | May 06 18:42 |
| _Goblin | and nobody buys it... | May 06 18:42 |
| _Goblin | so everyone must be thick msb... | May 06 18:42 |
| _Goblin | or does someone....anyone here want to come forward and say they agree with Msb's 911 nonsense? | May 06 18:43 |
| msb__ | formic_: Never heard of that. Reference? | May 06 18:43 |
| formic_ | http://youtu.be/BPPkqqZX75U | May 06 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DAVID ICKE IN HD! THE MOON MATRIX DISCLOSURE PT 1 - YouTube .::. Size~: 98.44 KB | May 06 18:43 |
| formic_ | He claims the moon is not real, its hallow and its a base. | May 06 18:43 |
| _Goblin | lol | May 06 18:43 |
| _Goblin | is that your intelligent source msb...? | May 06 18:43 |
| _Goblin | figures. | May 06 18:43 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: Thinking does not mean agreeing or disagreeing based on what you think of the proponent. | May 06 18:44 |
| formic_ | Back in 1991, David Icke said he was the son of God | May 06 18:44 |
| _Goblin | I am asking if anyone buys a word of what you are saying... | May 06 18:44 |
| _Goblin | nobody does. | May 06 18:44 |
| msb__ | Thinking means examining the evidence, and incorporating it into as accurate a model of the world as you can. | May 06 18:44 |
| _Goblin | nobody is interested.... | May 06 18:44 |
| msb__ | Or rejecting it for good reason. | May 06 18:44 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 06 18:44 |
| _Goblin | always someone elses fault... | May 06 18:44 |
| _Goblin | everyone here (for example) is ignorant or in on it. | May 06 18:45 |
| _Goblin | well thats that sorted out | May 06 18:45 |
| formic_ | http://youtu.be/_SYA3lo_JS0 | May 06 18:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Moon is Not Real: David Icke - YouTube .::. Size~: 132.3 KB | May 06 18:45 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: Lots of people are interested -- millions all around the world. | May 06 18:45 |
| _Goblin | oh yes interested......but to believe it has any merit? | May 06 18:45 |
| _Goblin | nobody responded here. | May 06 18:45 |
| _Goblin | I'll ask later.... | May 06 18:45 |
| _Goblin | lets see if we can get even one person who buys it. | May 06 18:45 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: If you refuse to examine the evidence, that doesn't make you right or give you any standing. It just means you are refusing to think. | May 06 18:46 |
| _Goblin | I've already seen evidence...... | May 06 18:46 |
| kari | Then I must respond. I don't believe in reptilians but I certainly believe that 9/11 was inside job. Tell me please what caused WTC 7 to come down. | May 06 18:46 |
| formic_ | kari +1 | May 06 18:46 |
| _Goblin | maybe speak to Roy and ask him to confirm or deny, that in terms of "experience" in first hand....I have far more than you. | May 06 18:46 |
| _Goblin | in relation to all your sillyness. | May 06 18:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Solutions: Arrest-Proof Yourself: An Interview with Dale C. Carson http://goo.gl/CXpAm | May 06 18:47 | |
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| msb__ | _Goblin: what experience is that? | May 06 18:47 |
| formic_ | http://youtu.be/BiyrHZCksDM | May 06 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: David Icke says he is the son of God - YouTube .::. Size~: 181.87 KB | May 06 18:47 |
| kari | Who to fuck is David Icke? | May 06 18:47 |
| _Goblin | Kari..... you're one.. great.... | May 06 18:48 |
| formic_ | Who to fuck? | May 06 18:48 |
| formic_ | LOL | May 06 18:48 |
| msb__ | Icke is a political researcher. | May 06 18:48 |
| _Goblin | now maybe...in terms of non-reptiles why you think the building came down? | May 06 18:48 |
| formic_ | Icke is batshit insane, tbh | May 06 18:48 |
| _Goblin | no he's not he's msbs expert | May 06 18:48 |
| msb__ | Watch his video linked on my homepage. He gives a good review of the _facts_. | May 06 18:49 |
| formic_ | he thinks hes the son of god, thinks reptilians are running the world, and that the moon is a space ship or some kind of base | May 06 18:49 |
| _Goblin | I'm going to look up this moonbase... sounds cool | May 06 18:49 |
| _Goblin | formic_, don't diss the expert... | May 06 18:49 |
| kari | Well in my opinions it was controlled demolition. It resembles that totally. Compare it. Actually there are lot of examples in Youtube | May 06 18:49 |
| msb__ | He does not mention reptilians. | May 06 18:49 |
| _Goblin | why can't he be son of God? | May 06 18:49 |
| formic_ | yes he does! | May 06 18:49 |
| msb__ | Not in that lecture. | May 06 18:49 |
| _Goblin | ah thats ok then | May 06 18:49 |
| _Goblin | what about the God thing? | May 06 18:49 |
| formic_ | not in that one lecture, but he does in the others | May 06 18:49 |
| _Goblin | lol.... | May 06 18:50 |
| _Goblin | oh hang on.... | May 06 18:50 |
| _Goblin | David Icke...yes | May 06 18:50 |
| formic_ | http://youtu.be/sT5-txAuzrY | May 06 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: David Icke - The Reptilians - the Schism - Obama and the New world Order. - YouTube .::. Size~: 136.58 KB | May 06 18:50 |
| kari | Well there is one son of the God - Jesus - that's it. | May 06 18:50 |
| _Goblin | he used to be a footballer too didn't he? | May 06 18:50 |
| formic_ | David Icke - The Reptilians - the Schism - Obama and the New world Order. | May 06 18:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Kansas abortion bill lets doctors lie to patients, withhold cancer treatment - http://bit.ly/IRmZVM staggering in its twisted awfulness | May 06 18:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Using Avastin for eye condition wet AMD 'could save NHS £84m' - http://bbc.in/J9EApm hilarious to see pharma's "safety concern" (v @McDawg) | May 06 18:50 | |
| msb__ | It doesn't matter if he said he's the son of the Devil. The important thing is the facts that he gives. | May 06 18:50 |
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| _Goblin | msb__, what about the moonbase fact? is that ok? | May 06 18:50 |
| msb__ | Does he say that it's a fact? | May 06 18:51 |
| _Goblin | msb__, he may be the son of God too...that could be a fact...? | May 06 18:51 |
| _Goblin | msb__, you're second guessing him... have you asked? | May 06 18:51 |
| msb__ | Depends on meaning -- we are all sons and daughters of God/Goddess. | May 06 18:51 |
| _Goblin | its ok, I think I remember who he is now | May 06 18:51 |
| _Goblin | its all coming back.... | May 06 18:51 |
| _Goblin | footballer? | May 06 18:52 |
| _Goblin | Son of God.... | May 06 18:52 |
| _Goblin | Moonbases | May 06 18:52 |
| formic_ | what about the moon matrix | May 06 18:52 |
| _Goblin | 911 conspiracy... | May 06 18:52 |
| _Goblin | yep.... | May 06 18:52 |
| formic_ | seriously, this guy has massive red flags | May 06 18:52 |
| kari | Goblin you still have not explained how WTC 7 came down | May 06 18:52 |
| formic_ | you should be questioning his facts | May 06 18:52 |
| _Goblin | natural progession.... go from the premier league to 911 conspiracies.... i don't know about anyone else but I'm convinced. | May 06 18:52 |
| _Goblin | kari, if I could I would have given it.... I am not though prepared to believe a scam on that scale would remain hushed up and be pulled off so easily | May 06 18:53 |
| formic_ | its people like David Icke that make conspiracies sound nuts | May 06 18:53 |
| _Goblin | formic_, you'll go to hell | May 06 18:53 |
| _Goblin | formic_, thats the son of god there. | May 06 18:53 |
| formic_ | lol | May 06 18:53 |
| formic_ | David Icke himself probably works for gov't, to make conspiracy theorists seem crazy | May 06 18:54 |
| _Goblin | formic_, you watch.... for dissing the icke we'll be invaded by the moonbase now | May 06 18:54 |
| _Goblin | formic_, lol...like your style | May 06 18:54 |
| _Goblin | formic_, perhaps, he's the son of God come to remove government by pretending to work for them in order to cheapen conspiracies? | May 06 18:54 |
| _Goblin | now thats a conspiracy | May 06 18:55 |
| _Goblin | get your head around that. | May 06 18:55 |
| formic_ | hold on, this green guy is knocking on my door | May 06 18:55 |
| _Goblin | don't open it... | May 06 18:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Failure of Central Planning - http://bit.ly/IQG0nL & yet it rules our world | May 06 18:55 | |
| _Goblin | swing hard swing long...... | May 06 18:55 |
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| _Goblin | or words to that effect (from the movie Signs) | May 06 18:55 |
| kari | Why? that green fella might be friendly and give tools to kill MS | May 06 18:55 |
| _Goblin | or worse... | May 06 18:56 |
| _Goblin | it could be ballmer | May 06 18:56 |
| _Goblin | I'd rather have the alien knocking than monkey boy. | May 06 18:56 |
| kari | GRIN | May 06 18:56 |
| msb__ | http://youtu.be/_SYA3lo_JS0 David Icke in talk about the Moon quotes Isaac Asimov -- an authentic scientist -- as saying that size and orbit of Moon is very unlikely. | May 06 18:57 |
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| msb__ | Information about conspiracies (or anything else) cannot be cheapened, except to people who do not think, but instead rely on popularity to determine what they call the truth. | May 06 19:00 |
| _Goblin | right..back after smoke....feel much better... | May 06 19:03 |
| _Goblin | I think the bottom line is: | May 06 19:03 |
| _Goblin | You can believe whatever you like, you can believe three headed serpents from Uranus were responsible....what makes me cross is...... | May 06 19:03 |
| _Goblin | all these conspiracies (and theres many) all detract from the FACT that thousands of innocent people died. | May 06 19:04 |
| _Goblin | and thats a tragedy.... | May 06 19:04 |
| msb__ | There are only a few theories about 9/11. | May 06 19:04 |
| _Goblin | of course if you disagree with the conspiracies...its a case of "you;ve been mislead" or "youre working for them".... | May 06 19:04 |
| _Goblin | so its pointless engaging.... | May 06 19:05 |
| _Goblin | msb__, so that makes it all better..? thousands of people can die and we get distracted by theories? | May 06 19:05 |
| _Goblin | its shameful | May 06 19:05 |
| _Goblin | its disgusting.... | May 06 19:05 |
| msb__ | And since 3,000 died, and 2,000,000 more in Afghanistan and Iraq were murdered using 9/11 as the pretext, it is very important to figure out who really was behind the attacks. | May 06 19:05 |
| _Goblin | very true msb__ and thats a whole other tragedy | May 06 19:06 |
| _Goblin | blame who you want........ | May 06 19:06 |
| msb__ | There is a whole big official document written by the Neocons/Zionists saying that we need "a new Pearl Harbor" to motivate people to accept a big war to reshape the Middle East (so it will be controlled by US and Israel). | May 06 19:07 |
| msb__ | It was written a few years before 9/11, which _was_ the new Pearl Harbor. | May 06 19:08 |
| _Goblin | and without reading the article myself (after all you cite Icke in past argument) I'd say that any notion of any war is disturbing..... | May 06 19:08 |
| _Goblin | but then you would not know would you msb? you've never been in conflict have you? infact its very easy to set the world to rights behind a keyboard in the comfort of your home.... | May 06 19:09 |
| msb__ | There are two possibilities: 1. a bunch of crazed Moslems led by OBL destroyed the Towers, and 2. implanted explosives and thermite, which could not have been place by Moslems, destroyed the towers. | May 06 19:10 |
| msb__ | That's why the physics analysis of what destroyed the towers is so important. | May 06 19:10 |
| _Goblin | and you take that physics partly from Icke (the man with the moonbase) | May 06 19:11 |
| msb__ | To know whether OBL gang did it, or whether it was an inside job, and thus a false-flag terror operation, by the US and Israel. | May 06 19:11 |
| msb__ | Not at all. Icke is not a physics researcher. | May 06 19:12 |
| _Goblin | the biggest scam in human history, played out on TV without anyone saying "hang on, I was told to do this"??? | May 06 19:12 |
| _Goblin | of course...makes perfect sense. | May 06 19:12 |
| _Goblin | And WIKIleaks never got hold of it? | May 06 19:12 |
| _Goblin | or maybe they did.........another conspiracy coming | May 06 19:13 |
| msb__ | These guys are physicists: http://journalof911studies.com/ | May 06 19:13 |
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| msb__ | Read the research papers there, written by physicists. | May 06 19:13 |
| _Goblin | and theres plenty of scientists who dismiss...... so all the sources I would cite are wrong and yours are right? what else you got? Icke? | May 06 19:13 |
| _Goblin | is Icke the tipping point? | May 06 19:14 |
| _Goblin | and re: Icke and being a physicist, I'm surprised he's not....he's claimed almost everything else... | May 06 19:14 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: No, and understanding of physics, so you can figure out who is telling the truth and who is lying, is the tipping point. | May 06 19:14 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: No, an understanding of physics, so you can figure out who is telling the truth and who is lying, is the tipping point. | May 06 19:14 |
| _Goblin | right....so why are people who think like you in a minority? | May 06 19:14 |
| msb__ | There is no substitute for actual _thinking_. None! | May 06 19:15 |
| _Goblin | everyone else thick? stupid? easily led? | May 06 19:15 |
| _Goblin | even in COLA, you can't get people buying this tot | May 06 19:15 |
| msb__ | People are constantly propagandized by the corporate/govt media. | May 06 19:15 |
| _Goblin | well since I hardly touch my TV...I'm ok. | May 06 19:16 |
| msb__ | If you read and understand the physics papers -- if you actually think, and not go by popularity -- then you will see who is right. | May 06 19:16 |
| _Goblin | I choose nothing by popularity.....otherwise I wouldn't be doing what you don't ..... Writing about linux for 4 years. | May 06 19:16 |
| _Goblin | I'd be an apple user... | May 06 19:17 |
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| _Goblin | or a Windows user....I'd have bought into the hype. | May 06 19:17 |
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| msb__ | _Goblin: Linux is something that you have chosen to think about. But you refuse to actually think about 9/11. | May 06 19:17 |
| _Goblin | msb__, Roy, I believe has examined your POV....I don't believe he agrees... is he thick too? | May 06 19:17 |
| _Goblin | or just refusing to think? | May 06 19:18 |
| msb__ | Roy has been successfully propagandized. He also refuses to look at the data. | May 06 19:18 |
| _Goblin | ah.... well.....I'm convinced. | May 06 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A christian horror movie about porn - I don't think a comment is needed... bit.ly/JVrwVl !atheism #religion !secularism | May 06 19:18 | |
| _Goblin | so except for maybe Kari who is a little sceptical......everyone else has been played the sucker except you? | May 06 19:19 |
| _Goblin | right.... | May 06 19:19 |
| _Goblin | I wish you'd just said that in the beginning then we wouldn't have had to go through all that. | May 06 19:19 |
| msb__ | Roy's work shows that he is very intelligent. So I think he has been successfully propagandized, rather than that he is stupid. | May 06 19:19 |
| _Goblin | right... | May 06 19:19 |
| _Goblin | well msb...when you get up from behind your keyboard and start actually proactively putting this point across (instead of here) to at best 39 people....then I may have a little more time for it... | May 06 19:20 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: I understand some physics, and I have read some of those papers. | May 06 19:21 |
| _Goblin | it didn't stop Icke.....go for it..... | May 06 19:21 |
| _Goblin | just avoid the whole moonbase thing.... | May 06 19:21 |
| msb__ | I have a good website up. | May 06 19:21 |
| _Goblin | ah... government must have blocked it for me.... never seen it. | May 06 19:21 |
| _Goblin | anyway....... | May 06 19:22 |
| _Goblin | I've got some important work to do and this is distracting me....... | May 06 19:22 |
| _Goblin | I have an apt with a bottle of bleach and the ubend in our loo..... bbl | May 06 19:22 |
| msb__ | cosmicpenguin.com | May 06 19:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Back home. #needbeer | May 06 19:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Can I see double facepalms everywhere, please? Apple. http://ur1.ca/96sci... http://b1t.it/bqbT | May 06 19:35 | |
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| _Goblin | back....albeit shortly...took at look at what I assume you mean is your site.... msb ... | May 06 19:38 |
| _Goblin | nice RMSesque theme you got running there...... | May 06 19:38 |
| _Goblin | is there anything on that site of your theories or views or is it just a series of links of other peoples work? maybe you've been reading too much of others and not thinking of your own views..... | May 06 19:39 |
| _Goblin | We've already established you are not a physicist , so how you can know that your sources of expertise are better than the official ones is anyone's guess. | May 06 19:40 |
| _Goblin | bet youre kicking yourself for having so many David Icke references as sources........ I didn't think for one minute it was the same David that we knew and love in the UK!!!!! my god......literally.....my god.... | May 06 19:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bimbo's Initiation: An Old Cartoon About Masonic Initiation (video) | The Vigilant Citizen http://goo.gl/1AfW8 #vc #xfiles #tptb | May 06 19:43 | |
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| msb__ | _Goblin: My views are reflected in the sources that I link to. | May 06 19:46 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I'm still here | May 06 19:46 |
| _Goblin | what like Icke? You sourced him earlier | May 06 19:47 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, hello mate! | May 06 19:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Apple Security Blunder Exposes Lion Login Passwords In Clear Text - Slashdot http://goo.gl/I2QsG ooooppssss | May 06 19:47 | |
| XFaCE | Prurigro is 8/9 interesting in Techbytes | May 06 19:47 |
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| XFaCE | _Goblin: so it looks like we're a go | May 06 19:48 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, excellent! | May 06 19:48 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, what sort of time suits? | May 06 19:48 |
| msb__ | I link to one Icke video because it's an excellent review of who controls the earth. | May 06 19:48 |
| _Goblin | and you used him here to encourage me to view..... | May 06 19:48 |
| XFaCE | Weekdays 1-5, with an "iffy" condition Tuesdays | May 06 19:49 |
| XFaCE | EST | May 06 19:49 |
| _Goblin | like I say, I had no clue it was the SAME David Icke I already knew. | May 06 19:49 |
| XFaCE | Actually EDT now | May 06 19:49 |
| msb__ | His talk that I link to is very informative. | May 06 19:49 |
| _Goblin | I'm sure it is msb__ we've had plenty of them here in the UK | May 06 19:49 |
| _Goblin | used to be a footballer you know | May 06 19:49 |
| _Goblin | and now he's very wealthy.... | May 06 19:49 |
| _Goblin | exposing the evil NWO.........very profitable it appears. | May 06 19:50 |
| _Goblin | is that what this is all about msb__ you want a piece of that wealth? | May 06 19:50 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: It's really much simpler that that | May 06 19:50 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: The world is run by short-term thinking | May 06 19:50 |
| XFaCE | Mystery solve | May 06 19:50 |
| XFaCE | d | May 06 19:50 |
| _Goblin | long term stupid.....I think can be added to politians | May 06 19:50 |
| msb__ | _Goblin: But you refuse to access and actually think about the info people are presenting, and instead accept or reject it base on popularity. | May 06 19:50 |
| _Goblin | msb__, with Icke....I've watched many..... | May 06 19:51 |
| msb__ | Well, watch this one. | May 06 19:51 |
| XFaCE | msb__: I reject based on science and common sense | May 06 19:51 |
| msb__ | Or don't. I think you are hopeless. | May 06 19:51 |
| _Goblin | and yes....I do reject it.... I reject moonbases, reptiles invading the earth, his claims of being the son of god...I reject all of that... | May 06 19:51 |
| _Goblin | and now his angle is 911....he's made alot of money | May 06 19:51 |
| cubezzz | who is saying that? | May 06 19:51 |
| XFaCE | What a dumb moron | May 06 19:52 |
| _Goblin | David Icke.... | May 06 19:52 |
| cubezzz | oh | May 06 19:52 |
| XFaCE | Doestn' he know that DiabloD3 is the son of god? | May 06 19:52 |
| XFaCE | Obviously | May 06 19:52 |
| _Goblin | I won't accept what he says so according to msb__ I'm hopeless. | May 06 19:52 |
| _Goblin | sorry.... I'm just not buying his POV..... | May 06 19:52 |
| XFaCE | Diablo=Devil, and he is sarcastic a lot of the time | May 06 19:52 |
| _Goblin | he lost me around the time he left football and claimed to be the son of god | May 06 19:52 |
| msb__ | Yes, _Goblin, you reject everything that's different from what you already believe. That guarantees that you will never learn anything new. | May 06 19:52 |
| cubezzz | can't we just bash M$ as usual? :) | May 06 19:53 |
| _Goblin | you can't bash icke | May 06 19:53 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: Windows 7 is big poo | May 06 19:53 |
| _Goblin | you'll go to hell | May 06 19:53 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: I might as well dump pig feces on my hard drive | May 06 19:53 |
| formic_ | Back | May 06 19:53 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Qweet | May 06 19:53 |
| formic_ | I don't know what we were talking about before but hail Microsoft! | May 06 19:53 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zINQYkl01N8 instead | May 06 19:53 |
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| _Goblin | msb__, and you do exactly the same...its called having a pov,,,,the difference between me and you is that I am not using someone who claims to be the son of God as my source. | May 06 19:53 |
| formic_ | 9/11 was perpetrated by islamic terrorists | May 06 19:54 |
| _Goblin | from the moon? | May 06 19:54 |
| _Goblin | dressed as lizards? | May 06 19:54 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Son of *his God FTFY | May 06 19:54 |
| formic_ | What no | May 06 19:54 |
| _Goblin | helped by the second coming? | May 06 19:54 |
| XFaCE | formic_: He's being sarcastic | May 06 19:54 |
| _Goblin | I jest formic_ ... i know you don't have those views. | May 06 19:54 |
| formic_ | :) | May 06 19:54 |
| msb__ | Yes, _Goblin, joke about what was used as the excuse to murder 2,000,000 people. | May 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | msb__: Straw-man | May 06 19:55 |
| _Goblin | dont you dare msb__ | May 06 19:55 |
| _Goblin | I was the one who chastised you for cheapening the deaths of thousands with your silly conspiracies | May 06 19:55 |
| XFaCE | And when did you stop beating your wife? | May 06 19:55 |
| formic_ | Stop? | May 06 19:56 |
| _Goblin | ? | May 06 19:56 |
| formic_ | Why would you stop? that's silly | May 06 19:56 |
| msb__ | Consider the word "conspiracy". For our purposes it means planning secretly to do evil. | May 06 19:56 |
| _Goblin | leave it msb__ | May 06 19:56 |
| msb__ | Do you believe that some people in the world do evil? | May 06 19:56 |
| formic_ | the word conspiracy does not have anything to do with 'evil' | May 06 19:57 |
| _Goblin | no of course I don't everyone is happy...everyone is fluffy..... | May 06 19:57 |
| XFaCE | formic_: _Goblin: I was just pointing out what he is doing with a common example | May 06 19:57 |
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| formic_ | it's a plan by two or more people in secret | May 06 19:57 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, I agree... | May 06 19:57 |
| msb__ | Do you think they plan it openly or in secret? | May 06 19:57 |
| _Goblin | but yet you know about it.... | May 06 19:57 |
| _Goblin | right | May 06 19:57 |
| _Goblin | and you post here.... | May 06 19:57 |
| _Goblin | and on a blog that looked like you've pirated (sic) RMS's site? | May 06 19:57 |
| msb__ | I said "for our purposes". We are talking about plans to do evil. | May 06 19:58 |
| _Goblin | so you msb__ are the one to help uncover all this evil planning. | May 06 19:58 |
| formic_ | msb__ is pirating RMS's site? | May 06 19:58 |
| formic_ | no way | May 06 19:58 |
| _Goblin | lol... | May 06 19:58 |
| msb__ | No, I just have a good website that links to a lot of good info. | May 06 19:58 |
| _Goblin | it was said flippantly....as a desperate attempt to get msb away from this subject, | May 06 19:58 |
| _Goblin | msb__, where's your readership counter? | May 06 19:59 |
| msb__ | My site is not a blog, and I have not visited RMS's site.. | May 06 19:59 |
| _Goblin | msb__, wheres your links from the bigger named sites? | May 06 19:59 |
| _Goblin | msb__, its a bunch of links that looks like its fallen through a time vortex from the www of 1997 | May 06 19:59 |
| msb__ | My site has been moved to a new server. The URL to the hit charts no longer works. | May 06 19:59 |
| msb__ | "bigger named sites" ??? | May 06 20:00 |
| _Goblin | damn government again...conspiring to take away your counter I reckon | May 06 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apple security blunder exposes Lion login passwords in clear text http://identi.ca/url/69524763 | May 06 20:00 | |
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| _Goblin | well....who puts their name to your "work" by linking to it? | May 06 20:00 |
| msb__ | I neither know nor care. I link to the most accurate and imporant info that I can find. | May 06 20:01 |
| _Goblin | well you do care.... You claim its "a good website".... whats the basis for that opinion? | May 06 20:01 |
| XFaCE | And how exactly do you judge accuracy? | May 06 20:02 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, well if it doesn't support msb__ then at best you've been mislead. | May 06 20:02 |
| formic_ | If I made a website I would think it's good too | May 06 20:02 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, thats the strength of it. | May 06 20:02 |
| _Goblin | formic_, so he does care. | May 06 20:02 |
| _Goblin | formic_, as per my point. | May 06 20:02 |
| msb__ | By correlating various sources of info, looking for consistency, contradiction, and consistency with laws of physics. | May 06 20:03 |
| _Goblin | and linking Icke.... Don't forget that bit | May 06 20:03 |
| _Goblin | so thats consistent source is it? | May 06 20:03 |
| _Goblin | that falls into your remit of whats worthy for your site of links? | May 06 20:03 |
| msb__ | That Icke lecture is an excellent review of the world situation. | May 06 20:04 |
| _Goblin | sourcing Icke as you have in respect of any subject is a little like sourcing Muller when talking about Patents. | May 06 20:04 |
| _Goblin | I suppose though Muller has a valid reason for his view.... | May 06 20:05 |
| _Goblin | money... | May 06 20:05 |
| XFaCE | or sourcing Bill Gates when talking about fair competition | May 06 20:05 |
| _Goblin | oh hang on... | May 06 20:05 |
| _Goblin | so does Icke.... his theories have made him rich. | May 06 20:05 |
| msb__ | Unlike you, I judge info by overall consistency from what I know from other sources, IOW my mental model of the world. | May 06 20:05 |
| XFaCE | ding ding ding! | May 06 20:05 |
| _Goblin | msb__, I have now grasped your mental model thanks. | May 06 20:06 |
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| _Goblin | mmm.... | May 06 20:06 |
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| _Goblin | you're not from the UK are you msb__ ? | May 06 20:06 |
| msb__ | No, you have consistently BS'ed about what I've said, and totally refuse to access the info that would enable you to understand my model. | May 06 20:06 |
| _Goblin | have I msb__ ? where? | May 06 20:07 |
| msb__ | No, US. | May 06 20:07 |
| _Goblin | thank god.....(no pun intended David) | May 06 20:07 |
| _Goblin | where have I BS'd? Mark? | May 06 20:07 |
| _Goblin | you didn't like to Icke or earlier in this channel try to source him? | May 06 20:08 |
| formic_ | msb__ one of your info sources thinks the moon is not real, and that its a spaceship or a reptilian base | May 06 20:08 |
| formic_ | can't you find a better talk by someone else | May 06 20:08 |
| msb__ | Over and over you refuse to actually access, evaluate information, and THINK. | May 06 20:08 |
| formic_ | he can't be the only person speaking against fascism | May 06 20:08 |
| formic_ | msb__ why can't you THINK about the moon matrix | May 06 20:08 |
| _Goblin | msb__, so that means I've bullshitted you because I challenged your views/sources? | May 06 20:08 |
| _Goblin | msb__, right... I can add liar to my opinion of you now too. | May 06 20:09 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: ok ok | May 06 20:09 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, :) | May 06 20:09 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: enough you two, you are just going around in circles | May 06 20:09 |
| XFaCE | let's move on to more important issues | May 06 20:09 |
| _Goblin | eliptical circles... | May 06 20:09 |
| msb__ | No, because you come up with excuse after excuse to refuse to access the information and actually think about it. | May 06 20:09 |
| _Goblin | and that makes it BS? rubbish... | May 06 20:10 |
| msb__ | Refusal to think is the worst kind of BS. | May 06 20:10 |
| XFaCE | Let's face the facts that we all die someday, that climate change probably won't be corrected in time, and the future looks bleak and painful for our ancestors. | May 06 20:10 |
| XFaCE | *descendents | May 06 20:10 |
| XFaCE | NEXT | May 06 20:10 |
| _Goblin | msb__, of course... . | May 06 20:10 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: What program are we using for VOIP now? | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | how about we talk about...... | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | ah | May 06 20:11 |
| XFaCE | Fuck no | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | good question..... | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | well... | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | we have choices... | May 06 20:11 |
| XFaCE | msb__ had a good suggestion | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | mumble.... | May 06 20:11 |
| XFaCE | A program called IHU | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | or a SIPP client....... | May 06 20:11 |
| _Goblin | or even Skype... | May 06 20:11 |
| XFaCE | which apparently has low bandwidth requirements and using IP address for contacting | May 06 20:11 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: No man, no more proprietary junk like that | May 06 20:12 |
| XFaCE | Especially since it is owned by Microsoft | May 06 20:12 |
| _Goblin | well the only reason I suggest skype is that its got a decent recorder plug in.... | May 06 20:12 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: I can record using Audacity | May 06 20:12 |
| _Goblin | mumble is good....but I've yet to give that a whole run.... | May 06 20:12 |
| XFaCE | Recording isn't that hard | May 06 20:12 |
| iophk | XFaCE: how do you plug Audacity into a SIP client? | May 06 20:12 |
| _Goblin | thats what I was going to ask | May 06 20:13 |
| XFaCE | iophk: Just take the audio output of your computer | May 06 20:13 |
| _Goblin | myself and Roy had limited success with that | May 06 20:13 |
| XFaCE | or, each person record their microphone and each soundtrack is layered on top of one another | May 06 20:13 |
| _Goblin | XFaCE, you have a possible syncing issue with each recording... | May 06 20:13 |
| _Goblin | *person | May 06 20:14 |
| XFaCE | Good point | May 06 20:14 |
| _Goblin | Mumble? | May 06 20:14 |
| XFaCE | Mumble is a good option | May 06 20:14 |
| XFaCE | In fact, that's what BZFlag recommends for game communincations IIRC | May 06 20:14 |
| _Goblin | I've not given that a complete run but it works well and Gordon sings its praises. | May 06 20:14 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: And crivins seems to be rendered well | May 06 20:15 |
| XFaCE | There is also IHU, as I have said | May 06 20:15 |
| XFaCE | msb__: How well has it worked for you of late? | May 06 20:15 |
| _Goblin | well I'm easy as to what we use. | May 06 20:15 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: No dump computer weirdness? | May 06 20:15 |
| XFaCE | I remember Gordon having problems with several programs :P | May 06 20:15 |
| msb__ | I'm sure IHU works as well as it used to -- there's no central server involved. Only problem is no conference calls. | May 06 20:16 |
| _Goblin | I think Mumble is the way... | May 06 20:16 |
| formic_ | Xface - mumble is great | May 06 20:16 |
| XFaCE | msb__: dang | May 06 20:16 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: formic_ : I guess so | May 06 20:17 |
| XFaCE | IHU would be great for a two person episode | May 06 20:17 |
| XFaCE | Ok, Mumble it is | May 06 20:17 |
| formic_ | mumble is starting to gain popularity for gamers | May 06 20:17 |
| _Goblin | I've already got Mumble up and running | May 06 20:17 |
| XFaCE | There is SIP, PSI+, but those seem flakey | May 06 20:17 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Yeah, I mentioned BZFlag earlier | May 06 20:17 |
| _Goblin | had meant to test with Roy, but since he's away..... | May 06 20:17 |
| XFaCE | gotcha | May 06 20:18 |
| cubezzz | how much does mumble cost? | May 06 20:19 |
| _Goblin | free........ | May 06 20:19 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: Duhhh | May 06 20:20 |
| msb__ | FOSS -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumble_%28software%29 | May 06 20:20 |
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| _Goblin | I charge £20 an hour for talking with me..... ;) | May 06 20:20 |
| _Goblin | and no...not in a dodgy sense.... | May 06 20:20 |
| XFaCE | _Goblin: Fuck man, think of the international currencies~ | May 06 20:20 |
| XFaCE | 1 British pound = 1.60669506 Canadian dollars | May 06 20:21 |
| XFaCE | oh wow | May 06 20:21 |
| _Goblin | yep.....worth every penny.... | May 06 20:21 |
| XFaCE | much less than I expected :P | May 06 20:21 |
| _Goblin | for £40, I'll sing | May 06 20:21 |
| cubezzz | "Create your Mumble Server on our premium voice communication network and enjoy live customer support, a 30 day "no questions asked" money back guarantee, and instant server setup." | May 06 20:21 |
| XFaCE | cubezzz: Will you stop shitting on the parade? | May 06 20:21 |
| _Goblin | yeah, cubezzz I am paying for the premium service...... | May 06 20:21 |
| _Goblin | so for everyone else it will be free | May 06 20:22 |
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| _Goblin | you've upset him now. | May 06 20:22 |
| _Goblin | :( | May 06 20:22 |
| XFaCE | he's still here | May 06 20:23 |
| XFaCE | cubefc1: | May 06 20:23 |
| _Goblin | brb.....have to check on the top coat of a Ultramarine terminator I've been painting..... | May 06 20:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] EUROPAfest 2012 http://ur1.ca/96ssa #music #romania #royal | May 06 20:23 | |
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| _Goblin | "Show no mercy, show no fear" | May 06 20:23 |
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| MinceR | thought for the day: violence solves everything. | May 06 20:29 |
| MinceR | geekings | May 06 20:30 |
| XFaCE | MinceR: Sure, but does it solve averything *well*? | May 06 20:30 |
| MinceR | ask the Mon'Keighs :> | May 06 20:30 |
| XFaCE | How 'bout.... no | May 06 20:31 |
| MinceR | :) | May 06 20:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: .@YLigtelijn thank you Yvonne. I'll be working until the last day and always active! http://p.ost.im/p/esJPXh | May 06 20:33 | |
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| _Goblin | MinceR, it certainly does in the year 40,000 | May 06 20:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hollande in first speech after election win. "I am a socialist" :-) | May 06 20:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Battery Blues: Why Your #Mobile Device Doesn’t Run ... - Input Output http://goo.gl/nQ8KB #hardware | May 06 20:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leave only footprints: how #Google's ethical ignorance gets it in trouble http://goo.gl/WWZro one lone engineer - a #Murdoch patented line? | May 06 20:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC on Hollandes speech. "Look at the band what a French cliche, I expect someone to come on next in a beret with onions around their neck" | May 06 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Rhyming & Stealing: Let’s honor late Beastie with better copyright laws http://goo.gl/Q4cVn | May 06 20:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mairin from identi.ca with 150 dents! | May 06 20:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @bramalab W ten wtorek, 08.05, rozpoczynamy pilotażowe wykłady na temat ruchu Wolnego Oprogramowania oraz Open Source. Więcej informa ... | May 06 20:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bank deregulation leads to disaster: shout it from the rooftops http://gu.com/p/37bjg | May 06 20:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gay marriage: a waste of government time? http://gu.com/p/37ch6 | May 06 21:00 | |
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| formic_ | As long as you paint them correctly | May 06 21:03 |
| MinceR | with their own blood! muhahaha! | May 06 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The BBC presenter who made the beret and string of onions remark directly after Hollande's speech was Jon sopel. #baddayattheoffice. | May 06 21:05 | |
| _Goblin | there.... | May 06 21:07 |
| _Goblin | tablet charged.... | May 06 21:07 |
| XFaCE | .............................................................. | May 06 21:08 |
| _Goblin | I think I impressed Roy with it when he came over...I'm sure he sent me a text to say he bought one. | May 06 21:08 |
| _Goblin | go figure this...... | May 06 21:09 |
| _Goblin | landline connection 260k per sec (thats bytes not bits) on download.... | May 06 21:10 |
| _Goblin | tethered Android Phone.... 470k per sec on download | May 06 21:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Andy Oram http://ur1.ca/96t85 | May 06 21:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A sketch comedy show should rewrite the BBC advert for telly licence with a couple in it. To say something about national debt repayments. | May 06 21:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Granny's Dancing on the Table - a GRANNY-INVASION! http://www.ur1.ca/96tb5 /via @satipera #kickstarter | May 06 21:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How to deal with bureaucracy effectively. http://ur1.ca/96tdg #funny | May 06 21:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Worried. That's all. | May 06 21:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dyfet: http://ur1.ca/968jj my statement on #fbi #wiretapping of #voip and web. Please redistribute widely | May 06 21:55 | |
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| XFaCE | _Goblin: what kind o tablet? | May 06 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf Identizens an early night for me. | May 06 22:02 | |
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| formic_ | I got the amazon fire, rooted with better firmware | May 06 22:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @satipera | May 06 22:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @sweet: Cada vez que una distro libre parchea un paquete, muere un gatito http://ur1.ca/9695e | May 06 22:12 | |
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| _Goblin | XFaCE, arnova 10 g2 | May 06 22:12 |
| _Goblin | bought it on a whim | May 06 22:12 |
| XFaCE | interesting | May 06 22:13 |
| XFaCE | bbl | May 06 22:13 |
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| _Goblin | formic_, I really just wanted something to surf, read a few emails and act as a pdf reader | May 06 22:14 |
| formic_ | any android tablet does that :) | May 06 22:14 |
| _Goblin | also its good to take on holiday for the kids and their tv... | May 06 22:14 |
| _Goblin | yes..... | May 06 22:14 |
| _Goblin | but any android tablet wasn't being sold for £105 | May 06 22:15 |
| formic_ | did you root it and install ICS? | May 06 22:15 |
| _Goblin | and at the time when I was in the shop buying batteries... | May 06 22:15 |
| _Goblin | and no I didn't root it.... | May 06 22:15 |
| _Goblin | don't need too | May 06 22:15 |
| formic_ | looks like it has android 2.3 | May 06 22:15 |
| _Goblin | yep | May 06 22:16 |
| _Goblin | I did toy with the idea, but then I thought whats the point of rooting it? I don't need it to do anything else and don't need the latest android | May 06 22:16 |
| formic_ | why would you want to use a two year old version of android? | May 06 22:17 |
| formic_ | ICS has much smoother scrolling and more features | May 06 22:17 |
| _Goblin | well since it does what I need, why bother? | May 06 22:18 |
| formic_ | you could argue FreeDOS does what you need, why bother | May 06 22:18 |
| formic_ | lol | May 06 22:18 |
| _Goblin | yes but if we look at desktop OS's things mature..... does it surf the net? yes can the wife shop with it? yes.....does it play every media file I've thrown at it? yes... | May 06 22:19 |
| formic_ | you'll start running into apps that require more | May 06 22:19 |
| _Goblin | no I won't since I won't be using them. | May 06 22:19 |
| _Goblin | usenet = check | May 06 22:19 |
| _Goblin | irc = check | May 06 22:19 |
| _Goblin | web =check | May 06 22:19 |
| _Goblin | email =check | May 06 22:19 |
| formic_ | until those apps are no longer supported on old android | May 06 22:20 |
| _Goblin | daraIRC has not been updated for years...its fine...it works. | May 06 22:20 |
| formic_ | you'll be stuck with old versions that might have security issues | May 06 22:20 |
| _Goblin | Groundhog, the same | May 06 22:20 |
| formic_ | you already have an old version of dalvik that could be running quicker | May 06 22:21 |
| formic_ | its your choice though | May 06 22:21 |
| _Goblin | formic_, I doubt it.... for the time spent actually online with it and the decreasing usage of gingerbread, will I really be a viable target? no. | May 06 22:21 |
| formic_ | rooting isn't for everyone | May 06 22:21 |
| _Goblin | formic_, its damn punchy for me now.... | May 06 22:21 |
| formic_ | good stuff then :) | May 06 22:21 |
| _Goblin | if it was something I intended to spend time on then yes, I'd probably root it....the kids and the wife will be using it more. | May 06 22:21 |
| formic_ | i come from the pov that old obsolete software is bad but not everyone shares that pov | May 06 22:22 |
| formic_ | cubezzz runs fc1 on a box | May 06 22:22 |
| _Goblin | I'd probably agree, but then there is an old adage - if its not broke don't fix | May 06 22:22 |
| formic_ | anyway, im glad you enjoy android tablets :) | May 06 22:22 |
| _Goblin | ask the millions of XP users. | May 06 22:22 |
| _Goblin | although not broke is a little too kind... | May 06 22:23 |
| formic_ | XP is broken unless all you have is dual core | May 06 22:23 |
| formic_ | and don't mind the 3gb memory limit | May 06 22:23 |
| _Goblin | though its favoured over Vista... | May 06 22:23 |
| formic_ | a lot of people have old hardware | May 06 22:23 |
| formic_ | its a waste of a computer if you can't use your 8gb or 64-bit cpu | May 06 22:23 |
| _Goblin | formic_, funnily enough it was that attitude (upgrading) which had me in Linux land 100%.....I went with Vista....it turned me off MS. | May 06 22:23 |
| formic_ | or multiple cores | May 06 22:24 |
| formic_ | all that stuff works fine on linux | May 06 22:24 |
| formic_ | which is my preference | May 06 22:24 |
| formic_ | linux makes very good use of multi cores thanks to servers | May 06 22:24 |
| formic_ | getting 64-bit software on linux is mostly just a recompile away | May 06 22:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Agree w/Falkvinge's notion !Privacy is multilayered. #Facebook should afford users "privacy" similar to what they'd find in private club. | May 06 22:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @GuardianData: Greece election results mapped. Infographic http://t.co/FewdVDrs http://b1t.it/bqeh | May 06 22:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] We have a reasonable expectation that a conversation between co-workers in lunch room would not be repeated on the 6:00 news. !privacy | May 06 22:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In spite of the "Facebook friends are not 'real' friends" meme, the Internet *is* part of the real world. | May 06 22:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Schools can't stop wondering what students are up to on Facebook http://goo.gl/YXzaY | May 06 23:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Some USAF Pilots Refuse To Fly F-22 Raptor http://goo.gl/MGtYQ designed at great expense for a threat that no longer exists | May 06 23:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | Wow, John McCain said something intelligent! | May 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | that there's no use for the F-22 and it's a waste of money unless the terrorists come up with their own air force | May 06 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | the military loves their obscenely priced weapons, even when we have no enemies that can match the stuff they already have | May 06 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/05/06/1621216/apple-security-blunder-exposes-lion-login-passwords-in-clear-text | May 06 23:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] That's interesting, @pensadorlouco .... do you have a link? | May 06 23:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @thistleweb With a name like Charlie (coke) Sheen (bling) it was always a case of "hidden in plain sight" | May 06 23:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Foursqaure still leaves me mystified http://b1t.it/bqe3 | May 06 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims - Challenge UN IPCC & Gore http://goo.gl/iGrIl #agw | May 06 23:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A-Z Climate Reality Check...The claims of the promoters of man-made climate fears are failing' http://goo.gl/bXlhF #agw #ecotretas | May 06 23:40 | |
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| MinceR | gn | May 06 23:40 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: That's F-32s, not F-22s | May 06 23:41 |
| formic_ | Terrorists don't use encryption. | May 06 23:43 |
| formic_ | Meaning, if you don't use it either you're a terrorist. | May 06 23:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ghostdancer “The Physics of Spilled !Coffee - ScienceNOW”: http://identi.ca/url/69528034 | May 06 23:50 | |
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