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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Database and IP Records Tie Election #Fraud To #Canada's Ruling Conservatives - Slashdot 06 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ryanweal That’s the definition of job. What you want is retirement.May 06 00:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @larryrusswurm Hey-Zeus, the one true god with massively multiple personality disorder. #humour 06 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jerezim The Internet is a common good, we own it together but we have a collective responsibility to teach people why it matters. #R ...May 06 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk It's a problem nonetheless. "A generation that ignores history has no past, and no future." ~Lazarus Long !qMay 06 00:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @joanvinallcox Young in front of Aged 06 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @laurelrusswurm No, it's deleting notices that's the game, anonymity is the same problemMay 06 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I learned years ago not to disagree with you re: science, @larryrusswurm ... it it's a super moon the effect should be an increased zoom :)May 06 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. This article is good on DRM in books but high handed to self publishers. 06 01:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag @satipera :)May 06 01:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "The main effect of DRM, from a platform vendor's perspective, is to lock end-users into their platform in perpetuity." 06 01:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf Identizens.May 06 02:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @ladyj It was much to get your act together, bit-torrent is kicking the artist in it's assMay 06 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @douglasawh @laurelrusswurm the main effect of DRM is DRM circumventionMay 06 02:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Great! Found my tripod... getting ready to brave the elements in search of the super moon :)May 06 03:43
oiaohmschestowitz:  Really nice news.  32 bit and 16 bit is working in the development branch.May 06 04:00
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formic_oiaohm - 16 bit? huh?May 06 04:07
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oiaohmformic_: 16 and 32 per channel.May 06 04:10
oiaohmformic_: comes important when you are doing filters on top of filters.May 06 04:10
formic_ohh thought you meant a 16 bit binaryMay 06 04:10
oiaohmformic_: 8 bit you start getting image damage from the filter process sooner.May 06 04:11
formic_LOLMay 06 04:11
oiaohmGimp has been 8 bit per channel for so long its not funny.May 06 04:11
oiaohmI was using cinepaint to get access 16 bit per channel.May 06 04:11
formic_cinepaint? thats amusing - isnt that a gimp fork by hollywood?May 06 04:12
oiaohmformic_: yepMay 06 04:13
oiaohmThey upgraded in engine in that.May 06 04:13
oiaohmBecuase 8 bit channels was not suitable.May 06 04:13
oiaohmThat channel weakness is one of the reasons why photoshop produces better results.May 06 04:14
formic_I believe youMay 06 04:16
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: More clean coal lies and cost overruns at Duke Energy. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 57.06 KBMay 06 05:43
oiaohmClean coal Australia you got to be kiding me.May 06 05:47
oiaohmThe Australian power stations burn high sulfer coal because its cheap.May 06 05:47
DaemonFCThe EPA is starting to crack down on that so Duke is building a "cleaner" coal power plantMay 06 05:48
DaemonFCwhich is supposed to get the sulfur and mercury output down, but with the same great greenhouse gas emissions you know and loveMay 06 05:48
oiaohmDaemonFC: Australia has the most advanced powerstation designed for burning coal.May 06 05:49
DaemonFCI guess it may kill a few less people in the short term until our planet becomes too fucked up to live on because of climate change.May 06 05:49
oiaohmProblem is we burn the worst coal possible.May 06 05:49
oiaohmSo the output from our stacks is cleaner than the USA stacks.May 06 05:49
DaemonFCThe EPA will be dismantled if we get Romney and a Republican super majority in Congress, we can't allow this to happenMay 06 05:50
oiaohmNow if good coal was used the output would be impressive almost pure co2May 06 05:50
DaemonFCof course that would only be one of the horrifying problems that situation would bringMay 06 05:50
oiaohmNo acid rain or other bad stuff.May 06 05:51
oiaohmAustralia problem is not the powerstation design but the input.May 06 05:51
DaemonFCthe closest thing in recent history is the period between 2003 and 2005 where the Republicans ran the hosue and senate and Bush was the presidentMay 06 05:51
DaemonFCand they did all kinds of bad things May 06 05:51
DaemonFCI have a feeling that this entire country is about to suddenly and violently swing to the far right, and then we'll have Republicans back to killing real kids while pretending to save imaginary kidsMay 06 05:53
oiaohmHere in austalia they want to get approval to pump co2 into the ground.May 06 05:53
oiaohmSince that is about the only way Australian powerstations can be made cleanner.May 06 05:53
oiaohmWithout using better grade of coal.May 06 05:53
oiaohmDaemonFC: can you work out what is wrong with pumping co2 into ground.May 06 05:55
DaemonFCwell, other than nobody is doing it.....May 06 05:55
DaemonFCnope, not a single thing!May 06 05:55
oiaohmCalled a co2 leakMay 06 06:00
oiaohmHappens in nature at a particular lake.May 06 06:00
oiaohmLast time it happened it killed 400 people with the longest distance away being 200 kms.May 06 06:01
oiaohmOf a person dieing.May 06 06:01
oiaohmco2 in high volume is most effective than a nuke at kill people.  DaemonFCMay 06 06:01
formic_LOLMay 06 06:12
formic_That doesn't even make sense oiaohm. Both the grammar, and the science behind your statement.May 06 06:13
formic_Trying to compare a nuke and co2 leaks is silly enough. Actually suggesting a co2 leak is mor effective at killing people than a nuke is beyond ridiculousnessMay 06 06:15
oiaohmformic_: It is more effective than a nuke if it in volume.May 06 06:23
formic_No it is clearly notMay 06 06:24
formic_Have you even heard of Chernobyl?May 06 06:24
oiaohmformic_: Even chernobyl has a high live rate than a major co2 leak on scale.May 06 06:24
formic_That's because nobody hangs out in ChernobylMay 06 06:25
formic_RadiationMay 06 06:25
formic_co2 leaks have no equivalent that lasts for decades making people sick and killing peopleMay 06 06:25
formic_So you are literally retardedMay 06 06:25
oiaohmMost co2 leaks are not of scale.May 06 06:25
oiaohmThe few of scale have almost 100 percent kill rate.May 06 06:26
formic_co2 doesn't hang around out in the open for decadesMay 06 06:26
oiaohmTo anyone in the effected area at the time.May 06 06:26
formic_in a well ventilated open area like outsideMay 06 06:26
formic_i'm an environmentalist, and your extreme example actually damages my work.May 06 06:27
oiaohmThen take into account that we are planing on storeing 2000 times the largest natural store of Co2May 06 06:27
oiaohmDeath zone is large than a central point of a nuke.May 06 06:27
formic_A nuke just isn't an explosionMay 06 06:28
formic_It leaves *radiation*May 06 06:28
oiaohmAnd storing CO2 in large stores leaves time bombs.May 06 06:28
oiaohmThat can go off at any time.May 06 06:28
formic_man, youMay 06 06:28
formic_you're insaneMay 06 06:28
oiaohmRadiation only one factor.May 06 06:29
formic_No wonder you use WindowsMay 06 06:29
oiaohmI don't use windows.May 06 06:29
oiaohmYou are dealing with a person who models weapon effects.  Humans can tollerate so much radition exposure without harm.  After the nukes in japan land where nukes it can be clean up to a radition level that humans can tollerate in 50 yearsMay 06 06:31
oiaohmBut its costly.May 06 06:31
oiaohmChernobyl takes the cheap option.May 06 06:31
oiaohmformic_: so did you study the clean up the the japan cities after the two nukes got dropped on them.May 06 06:33
formic_You're dealing with a person with a Mensa membership; whom works in the FBI as a ASE&T. I do Explosives/Incediary device research for them and I work with Hazardous Materials. I'm telling you that you are completely way off base and are doing science injustice.May 06 06:33
oiaohmformic_: or is your understand of nuke damage limited to cases like Chernoble that have been left to natural decay.May 06 06:34
formic_Here is my OS version stringMay 06 06:34
formic_01:33 CTCP VERSION reply from formic_: xchat 2.8.8 FBI-Linux 3.3.1-3.x86_64 [x86_64/6.39GHz].May 06 06:34
oiaohmDoes not matterMay 06 06:34
formic_It's called radiationMay 06 06:35
oiaohmThere are two models.May 06 06:35
formic_Stop being a complete ignoramus.May 06 06:35
oiaohmOne is natural decay one is clean and containment.May 06 06:35
oiaohmBoth have different kill rates and numbers.May 06 06:35
formic_Are you reading the pamphlet of some extremist misguided environmental group?May 06 06:35
formic_I eat lunch monthly with real professionals who deal with climate science.May 06 06:36
formic_I'll bounce off your co2 verses radiation theory with them.May 06 06:36
oiaohmThe thing I am talking about is not a climate science issue.May 06 06:36
formic_I usually don't have good jokes :>May 06 06:36
oiaohmIts some who does fluid dynamics.May 06 06:36
oiaohmCo2 sits low flows over ground like a liquid when it leaks in volume.May 06 06:37
oiaohmThat is when it destructive.May 06 06:37
oiaohmStoring vaste volumes of Co2 creates the perfect envorment for a fluid flow.May 06 06:38
oiaohmThis happens in nature in smaller scales.May 06 06:39
oiaohmNature gives us warning it stupid it disreguard them.May 06 06:39
oiaohmIn a fllow there is no other gas other than co2 n2 and o2 are displaced.May 06 06:39
formic_I can't trust the opinion of someone who can't spell right 60% of the time.May 06 06:42
formic_SorryMay 06 06:42
oiaohmThat is dyslexia.May 06 06:44
oiaohmYou are fine to check out the fluid effect.  And find out that storage not exactly a safe option.May 06 06:44
oiaohmco2 being mixed with other items is required to make it harmless.May 06 06:45
oiaohmJust because I have dyslexia does not make me stupid formic_.  I am not kidding on the scale of the problem.  The one natural flow happens about 1 ever 50 years and has been killing as long as people can remember.May 06 06:47
oiaohmThat is thousands of years of killing.May 06 06:47
formic_The guilt-by-disability wildcard? I had no idea you had a disability.May 06 06:48
formic_It doesn't effect me believing you or not.May 06 06:48
oiaohmThe disability is true and compared to where I started I do English very well today. May 06 06:49
oiaohmBut you should have raised it as a excuse not to believeMay 06 06:50
oiaohmThat shows your own weakness.  formic_May 06 06:50
formic_When someone has so many typos that's usually a mental red flag for me.May 06 06:50
oiaohmDo you know that most people with dyslexia have higher than average intelligence. May 06 06:51
formic_A red flag that suggests the lack of mental capacity for complex or abstract thinking.May 06 06:51
oiaohmCompletely wrong.May 06 06:51
formic_I'm talking about the extreme number of typos.May 06 06:51
oiaohmWhat is wrong with English.May 06 06:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Reddit's TestPAC is campaigning to defeat Lamar Smith, SOPA's daddy !eff !fsfMay 06 06:52
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oiaohmIs there any logic to it.  formic_May 06 06:52
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formic_I don't think there is anything wrong with English.May 06 06:52
oiaohmI can do complex logical thinking better than most.  Even abstract thinking better the most.May 06 06:52
oiaohmEnglish is neither.May 06 06:53
formic_Oh don't get me wrong. I'm just saying what I usually do when I see typos.May 06 06:53
formic_I'm bound to run into corner cases.May 06 06:53
oiaohmNo this is not a corner case.May 06 06:53
oiaohmThe higher you logic style the more trouble english will cause you.May 06 06:54
formic_90% of the time when someone makes a lot of typos; they truly are dumbasses.May 06 06:54
formic_At least from my own experienceMay 06 06:54
oiaohmYou have seen me enough.May 06 06:54
oiaohmI am not a idiot I come from logical points of view.May 06 06:54
oiaohmThis might mean we might be looking at a problem from different scales May 06 06:55
formic_I see a lot of stuff people write all over the place.May 06 06:55
formic_Not just stuff you write.May 06 06:55
oiaohmThe thing to look for is a lack of logic.May 06 06:55
oiaohmA true dumb ass cannot do logic either.May 06 06:56
formic_If you know english you can explain abstract and complex ideas properly.May 06 06:56
oiaohmMost of the stuff I do I explain in graphics and formulas. May 06 06:56
formic_There is logic in english if you know what you are doing. What good are abstract and complex ideas if you can't communicate them?May 06 06:57
oiaohmNotice what I just said.May 06 06:57
formic_A person who does not know formulas will not understand you.May 06 06:57
oiaohmDo I need English most of the time no. May 06 06:57
formic_A regular scientist can break down a complex idea and form it so a layman can understand.May 06 06:57
oiaohmThe graphics can get a lot across particularly when its videos of the effects.May 06 06:57
oiaohmA picture says a 1000 words and it does not have a language problem.May 06 06:58
formic_It requires a person who can communicate those words before a picture could have 1000 of them.May 06 06:59
oiaohmThere is more than just English to communicate ideas. May 06 06:59
oiaohmMy side is maths and physics  I can get a very long way showing and idea without using a single word of English when I can do formulas and pictures.May 06 07:01
oiaohmMaths is basically a logical language.May 06 07:01
formic_Lets say you show someone a picture of an Apple. Without speaking and explaining what your meaning is, they will be thinking of all the other words that come to mind.May 06 07:01
formic_You might show them thinking 'Hey this is an apple'. They might be thinking 'Oh man I'm hungry'.May 06 07:02
oiaohmJust like English a picture has to have context or its  meaningless.. May 06 07:04
oiaohmAnd the context can be built by other picturesMay 06 07:04
oiaohmI know this idea is kinda strange to a person who has English as dominate. May 06 07:05
oiaohmformic_: because you example of a picture of a apple is the same as asking the mean of a person of the word apple in English no context meaning can go all over the place.May 06 07:06
oiaohmYes picture context does not have the same order rules.May 06 07:07
DaemonFCformic_: Did you hear about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?May 06 07:18
DaemonFCHe stayed up all night trying to figure out if there really was a dog.May 06 07:18
DaemonFCDid you hear about the dyslexic devil worshiper? May 06 07:19
DaemonFCHe sold his soul to Santa.May 06 07:19
oiaohmDaemonFC: Really those jokes are poor taste.  Mind you when I was young god most likely would have end up ogdMay 06 07:29
oiaohmDaemonFC: the odds of any letter in the right place when I was young was almost zero.May 06 07:30
oiaohmDaemonFC: Yes I still have some books when I have to as ot and an as naMay 06 07:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] MagPI - The FREE Magazine for the Raspberry Pi! #linux http://www.themagpi.comMay 06 07:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Love this. The Ring from outer space. What Makers do. 06 08:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @openbytes MagPI - The FREE Magazine for the Raspberry Pi! #linux http://www.themagpi.comMay 06 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @ghodmode Study explains how retailers stop Linux from entering the market - The H Open Source: News and Features 06 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Niki Malhotra 06 10:40
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iophk'"Elop was not hired as a boss for a burning platform," said John Strand, founder and CEO of Danish consultancy Strand Consult. "He put the platform on fire."'May 06 10:44
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MinceRlike m$ will save the nokia they killedMay 06 10:45
iophkIt can only prolong the death at this point.May 06 10:47
oiaohmCalling from aid from Microsoft will not save nokiaMay 06 10:48
oiaohmfrom what I can seeMay 06 10:48
oiaohmmaybe calling to google or apple.May 06 10:48
iophkApple would not be interested, but Nokia could stop the slide into oblivion with a quick release of an Android phone.   Losing Meego was a big mistake.May 06 10:51
MinceRthey still have MeeGo/Harmattan, they could release more phones with itMay 06 10:53
MinceRalso, they could still try to sell the n9 globallyMay 06 10:53
iophkI've read of people making trips to countries where the N9 or N900 is still for sale.May 06 10:56
iophkOf course it would also be necessary to fire the people that Elop brought in.May 06 11:04
MinceRand elop himselfMay 06 11:06
iophkFiring with fines and penalties for him.May 06 11:09
oiaohmiophk: apple might be interested with on going dispute with samsung.May 06 11:34
oiaohmiophk: to help nokia out.May 06 11:34
oiaohmiophk: nokia does have as an asset production.May 06 11:35
iophkHelping Nokia would only hurt Apple.  I can see them doing something so stupid, but it wouldn't make sense.May 06 11:36
oiaohmiophk: does helping samsung that is making android to complete with apple help apple.May 06 11:37
oiaohmiophk: question is a hard one for apple if or if not nokia is worth helping.May 06 11:37
iophkRight now it's a two horse race.  Any loss by Android will get picked up by Apple.  If Apple helps turn it into a three way race, there is a good probability that loss of market by Android could go to Nokia.May 06 11:40
iophkMoney splits better two ways than three ways.May 06 11:43
iophkIt's to both Apple and Android's advantage to keep Zune out of the race.May 06 11:43
oiaohmThing is I am seeing that nokia could fall to a point that apple could buy it out right.May 06 11:44
oiaohmSo its not a case of a competitor that can come back.May 06 11:44
iophkThat would be a good thing for Nokia, but what would be the gain there for Apple?May 06 11:44
oiaohmApple having its own independant production so being able to force patents on android makers harder.May 06 11:45
oiaohmSo make more income from android.May 06 11:45
iophkNokia sold many key patents and has moved towards outsourcing hardware.May 06 11:46
oiaohmThing is it still holds the license to use those patents.May 06 11:46
oiaohmThat apple would gain as well.May 06 11:46
oiaohmAnd they have not fully outsource there hardware production yet.May 06 11:46
oiaohmleave it another 18 months nokia would not be worth anything to Apple.May 06 11:47
oiaohmOther than maybe the patent rights to keep MS partly off there ass.May 06 11:47
iophkElop has been able to tear down a lot already.  There may not be anything left soon except for the licenses for the formerly owned patents.May 06 11:47
oiaohmCurrent point there is something to sell.May 06 11:48
oiaohmBut ELop keeps on current path nothing will be left.May 06 11:48
iophkThe only way to change course would be to remove Elop:May 06 11:49
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iophkbut that alone is not enough.  Those he has brought in need to be rousted along with those that brought him in to begin with.May 06 11:49
iophkHe had help getting in.May 06 11:50
oiaohmiophk: yep best way is a complete aquirement and mass firing.May 06 11:50
oiaohmQuestion is who has the resources to buy nokia out right.May 06 11:50
iophkAlso putting an F-Secure guy (windows) in charge of the board does not signal a likelihood of improvement.May 06 11:50
iophkGoogle has the resources.  Apple would, too.May 06 11:50
oiaohmHTC maybe.May 06 11:51
oiaohmBut that is about it samsung is too busy to aquire anyone.May 06 11:51
iophkIt may be that the only value left in Nokia is the patent licenses.May 06 11:51
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iophkOllila was a proponent of open standards when he built up Nokia.  It sure took a short time to tear it down.May 06 11:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Ακροδεξιές παρελάσεις και προπηλακισμοί σε εκλογικά τμήματα" from 06 11:55
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iophkHe should be calling for removal of Elop, not endorsing him.  May 06 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Lengthening Arm of Uncle Sam’s ‘Pirate’ Justice 06 11:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] LaserSaber brings 'Star Wars' swordplay to life 06 12:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Romanian Fortune Tellers Used Google To Fleece Victims 06 12:03
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MinceR130121 -TRIdentica:#techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] LaserSaber brings 'Star Wars' swordplay to life 06 12:04
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MinceRif it's not a toy, then what is it?May 06 12:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Warnings as commons cows released the #politics jokes just write themselves with that headlineMay 06 12:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The religious fanatics behind Tory plans to block porn - behold the British Taliban (v @ralpost) #censorshipMay 06 12:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: The religious fanatics behind Tory plans to block porn - behold the British Taliban (v @ralpost) #censorsMay 06 12:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] With 8.8% market share, Apple has 73% of cell phone profits - Apple 2.0 - Fortune Tech #mobile #statsMay 06 12:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "we're aware people are having a hard time, we're causing most of it" #Osbourne #politicsMay 06 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ok, so I added the rather obvious non-verbal after the comma on that quote lolMay 06 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Big Bang Theory - Intro (frame by frame) #geeks #tvseriesMay 06 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] updated info on STOPACTA site - useful stuff on what the EP committees are doing when #actaMay 06 12:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Lights, Camera… Covert Action: The Deep Politics of Hollywood #usa #mic #propagandaMay 06 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Best Survival Blogs On The Web | Before It's News #preppersMay 06 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there should be a childbirth class for first time moms called "A womb with a view"May 06 13:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America #usa #martiallaw #policestateMay 06 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the horse race description seems somehow apt for an election of a mare.....erm.....mayor #politics #verbalgagMay 06 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] was the term "having a mare" named in honour of #Boris? #London #politicsMay 06 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I sometimes wonder if the "organist" in a band is just code for "he's the wanker but he owns the transport so we need him"May 06 13:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fosspatents/@fosspatents] Oracle v. Google: fair use is a fairy tale -- in reality, Android hijacked Sun Microsystems' Java 06 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Windows 8 nu suportă DVD-uri video #microsoft #video #dvd #windows #movie #filmMay 06 14:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] lol... I thought it was a little stange to have use Skydrive...... surely they know about other hosting options..May 06 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #KDE 4.8.3 Plasma and Applications are Available for #Kubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin #software #gnu #linux #ubuntuMay 06 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 12 Must-See Skywatching Events in 2012 - Yahoo! News #astronomyMay 06 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: A big #eLearning wake-up call here for skeptics and European universities alike http://t 06 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Back to reality, after 4 days of #sailing; on train en-route home, already connected and on-line.May 06 15:10
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sultan2msb__: Hallo USA!May 06 15:22
msb__Hi sultan2 how are you doing?May 06 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ Latest post by @ggreenwald on the FBI's ongoing efforts to obtain "backdoor" access to all Internet communications: 06 15:23
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sultan2gut gut ;)) and you?May 06 15:24
msb__ok.  Fighting ghouls in cola.May 06 15:24
sultan2:-PMay 06 15:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "... it is a strategy to maintain the prosperity of the rich by expelling everybody else from a civilisation which no longer needs them."May 06 15:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Just when I thought things could not get much worse. Tony Blair has said be will become more active in British politics. #BliarMay 06 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @satipera Just when I thought things could not get much worse. Tony Blair has said be will become more active in British politics. #BliarMay 06 16:12
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AdmFubar_dunno if anyone has seen this one.. i found it amusing ^_^ 06 16:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Waylon Smithers "Women and seamen don't mix." #SimpsonsMay 06 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @satipera Just when I thought things could not get much worse. Tony Blair has said be will become more active in British politics. #BliarMay 06 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ever had one of those days where you want to chuck your computer out the window, and then back a bus over it?May 06 16:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My computer is doing stuff and slowing down to a crawl *and I don't know why* ... sad to say I miss Windows task managerMay 06 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !FreeByron ♻ @cstross Security theatre is preoccupied with What and How. Real security lies in understanding Who and WhyMay 06 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Pirate Bay is still not blocked in my part of the UK. (I said I'd post daily-ish reports) 06 16:43
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formic_10:23 <@msb__> ok.  Fighting ghouls in cola.May 06 16:45
formic_waste of timeMay 06 16:45
msb__No formic_!  One of the ghouls revealed that he is part of an anti-Linux group in COLA.  Blew their cover!  I am about to publish!May 06 16:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] When they do use this British Pirate Party link 06 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Nvidia #Linux Display Driver 295.49 released. Fixes problems with Geforce series 6 and 7, performance boost 06 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC's economics editor tried to vote a day before the election and complained on twitter the polling station was closed. 06 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Coffee may not be imperitive for success, @sandersch, but it is *certainly* necessary for my brain to functionMay 06 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @sandersch ''EA gaat games uitbrengen voor !Linux'' 06 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Dradio: Urheberrecht Science Fiction ohne Kopierschutz #drmMay 06 17:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This looks GREAT~ ♻brainwane 1 more day to apply to #hacker school - #women, #scholarships available 06 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] New Kansas abortion bill lets doctors lie to patients, withhold cancer treatment 06 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The kworker saga... still not solved. #Linux 06 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thelovebug It would appear as though my fellow Dentians on the west-side of the Atlantic are starting to surface. Good morning UTC- ...May 06 17:32
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formic_msb__ let me see when you doMay 06 17:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @satipera British Pirate Party link to the Pirate Bay to evade ISP blocks, apparently (I can't... 06 17:37
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msb__formic_: Just keep watching COLA.  There will be a flurry of denials from all the ghouls.May 06 17:37
_Goblinwhat cola? what for?May 06 17:38
_Goblinother than watching the wintrolls get more rabid?May 06 17:38
formic_msb__ I don't see anything on colaMay 06 17:45
formic_I'd rather not have to dig through the threads to find your 'published' workMay 06 17:45
formic_It makes my brain hurt reading the material of these idiotsMay 06 17:46
msb__I'll start a new thread with it.May 06 17:46
DiabloD3waitMay 06 17:48
DiabloD3you want brain hurt?May 06 17:48
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formic_msb_ lol now i've seen everythingMay 06 17:56
formic_I just looked up my nameMay 06 17:56
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formic_Not only am I apparently Brandon, but I'm also msb__May 06 17:56
DiabloD3no, Im sparticus!May 06 17:56
formic_I guess he missed the part where I was making fun of msb over the kde stuffMay 06 17:59
formic_And the IRC tech supportMay 06 18:00
formic_lolMay 06 18:00
_Goblinformic_, doesn't matter if you are or not......that post was Foster talking...May 06 18:00
_GoblinFoster can't even get his logic right....May 06 18:00
_Goblin"I believe formic is another Mark S. Bilk nym, but I'm not sure. "May 06 18:00
_GoblinHow can he believe but at the same time not be sure?May 06 18:00
formic_Im not familiar with cola other than knowing its just a bunch of nutters on both sides of the pondMay 06 18:00
_GoblinHey! COLA is great......May 06 18:00
formic_thats a cowardly way of accusing someone when you have no proofMay 06 18:01
_Goblinno thats a thick person who doesn't know his own mindMay 06 18:01
formic_"i think X might be Y, but im not sure"May 06 18:01
formic_normal people put that in their mind and wait for evidenceMay 06 18:01
_GoblinBut hey... Who cares? Its Foster/Gary Stewart/FlatfishMay 06 18:01
_GoblinMicrosoft advocate to the core.May 06 18:02
_Goblinand I think he's great.May 06 18:02
formic_hes probably losing money on malware removalMay 06 18:02
_Goblinhe puts on a great show...May 06 18:02
formic_less junk windows pcs to go aroundMay 06 18:02
msb__formic_: "Im not familiar with cola other than knowing its just a bunch of nutters on both sides of the pond"May 06 18:11
msb__formic_: Are you saying that both the anti-Linux and pro-Linux posters in COLA are nutters?  Or by "pond" do you mean the Atlantic Ocean?May 06 18:12
formic_everyone on COLA is nutsMay 06 18:12
_Goblinnah...not everyone....May 06 18:12
_Goblindo you blame people for getting cross?May 06 18:12
_Goblinwhy do the wintrolls go there?May 06 18:13
formic_A sane person would be gone in one week.May 06 18:13
_Goblinif they didn't attend then the people there would not get distracted by the likes of Gary StewartMay 06 18:13
_Goblinit would just be like any other forum...May 06 18:13
formic_maybe ill be less hostile, they are all trollsMay 06 18:14
formic_perhaps not crazy but they do trollMay 06 18:14
_Goblinand formic, the post you made on Roy's site is no different to the types of comments they make on COLA, the difference is, you are not being attacked by vulgar WintrollsMay 06 18:14
formic_Two things that stand out about COLAMay 06 18:15
_Goblinyour own issue is that unfortunately....May 06 18:15
formic_1) Wintrolls publishing articles and bug reports to make linux look bad.May 06 18:15
formic_2) Linux advocates publishing articles and bug reports to make Windows/Apple look bad.May 06 18:15
formic_Its just fighting back and forthMay 06 18:16
_Goblinno matter what you do in life, you'll always be Brandon and for that you have my sympathy. ;)May 06 18:16
formic_It's better to advocate on strength than by point out someone elses weakness.May 06 18:16
msb__The anti-Linux posters use smears: lintards, linturds, freetards, freeturds, lienux.May 06 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Young women are (still) the best internet bait and 5 other lessons from ESPN’s blogger scandal 06 18:17
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msb__The Linux users never do that.May 06 18:17
formic_"wintrolls" ?May 06 18:17
msb__The anti-Linux posters constantly lie about Linux.  We don't lie about Windows.May 06 18:17
formic_"appil"May 06 18:17
formic_I can't comment, it just looks from my POV that its just a bunch of fighting.May 06 18:18
msb__Only one guy says appil.  I think he's afraid of getting sued.May 06 18:18
_Goblinit is...thats why its a great can see what the wintrolls are really frightened of by how hard they attack a subjectMay 06 18:18
formic_IT's a giant dick waving contest.May 06 18:18
msb__What should we call the anti-Linux posters?May 06 18:19
formic_call the microsoft agentsMay 06 18:19
_GoblinlolMay 06 18:19
msb__They are not "trolls" in the classic Usenet sense.May 06 18:19
_Goblinyou think those clowns would be paid by Microsoft?May 06 18:19
_GoblinlolMay 06 18:19
msb__I do call them MS agents.May 06 18:19
formic_+1 msb__May 06 18:19
msb__Those "clowns" are vicious sociopaths.  Just the sort of astroturfers that MS would hire (maybe thru PR agencies).May 06 18:20
_Goblinthey are more likely to be small business with an interest in the Microsoft eccosystem remaining and have too much time on their hands through lack of business.May 06 18:20
formic_I think the small microsoft shops are too busy gouging their customersMay 06 18:21
_Goblinthe one thing they are not are successful the case of Gary Stewart/Foster/Flatfish...why would a successful person with money spend years getting "entertainment" in COLA? They haven't got anything else to do? These people tragically are not successful and need our pity.May 06 18:21
msb___Goblin: What proof do you have of that?  What reasoning?  They all use the same smear words, attack the same people, tell the same lies, even followup to each other within seconds.May 06 18:21
formic_the fighting is feeding the microsoft agentsMay 06 18:22
formic_if people stopped fighting, the money would be wastedMay 06 18:22
_Goblinwell its sounder reasoning that thinking that COLA is a useful medium to promote Windows and cheapen linuxMay 06 18:22
_Goblinhow much "mainstream" exposure does COLA get? lol....May 06 18:22
formic_im sure it gets a lotMay 06 18:22
_Goblinsince MS makes money from the mass consumer, the only people they are trying to convince in COLA are the ones already using Linux...May 06 18:22
msb__COLA has thousands of subscribers just via google groups.May 06 18:22
_Goblinthousands yes...May 06 18:23
formic_does that count all the sockpuppets?May 06 18:23
_Goblinbut it would be far better to spend that energy in a mainstream forum...May 06 18:23
msb__Microsoft has billions of dollars to waste on propaganda.May 06 18:23
_Goblinso then why is not the same aggression seen in the Ubuntu newsgroup?May 06 18:23
msb___Goblin: What mainstream forum?  They would be kicked out.May 06 18:23
_Goblinreally?May 06 18:23
_GoblinrubbishMay 06 18:23
_Goblinlook at (up until recently) Microsoft watch....May 06 18:24
_Goblinwhen Jo Wilcox was running that it was hellishly popularMay 06 18:24
formic_usenet has no censorsMay 06 18:24
_Goblinso?May 06 18:24
formic_websites doMay 06 18:24
_Goblinisn't a clever non offensive pro-MS piece better than what we see in COLA?May 06 18:24
_Goblinare you really suggesting that "lintard" is the pinnacle of MS PR?May 06 18:25
_Goblincome on....have a day off.May 06 18:25
formic_microsoft hires young people to do itMay 06 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hacking work: How to break the rules to work better 06 18:25
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formic_wasn't there one guy who bragged about his laptopMay 06 18:25
msb__It's a local maximum -- one type of MS propaganda.May 06 18:25
_GoblinDid you know MagPI magazine is hosted on Skydrive? Want to make a conspiracy on that?May 06 18:25
_Goblinformic_, you have the nerve to say people in COLA are crazy?May 06 18:26
msb__The anti-Linux spammers are crazy in that they are sociopaths -- harming others to benefit themselves.May 06 18:26
_Goblinand formic_ it does hire young people, it sends bloggers gifts...we've written about that beforeMay 06 18:26
formic_isn't the definition of crazy repeating the same thing expecting a different result?May 06 18:26
_Goblinnot really, because if you have an honest held belief in something then its merely reinforcing that.May 06 18:27
formic_young people use vulgar slang and insultsMay 06 18:27
iophkmsb__: are you sure they are benefiting even themselves?  Maybe they are into just causing harm.May 06 18:27
_Goblinlike MSB and his 911 ideas.May 06 18:27
_Goblinformic_, well Foster/Flatfish has been going at it for over 10 years....May 06 18:27
msb__I am using "crazy" in the sense of a recognized mental illness.May 06 18:28
_Goblinstarted when he was 6 did he?May 06 18:28
formic_Microsoft could literally say they aren't "funding" astroturfing. However they could be giving out free gifts to those who damage linux the most.May 06 18:28
msb__iophk: People who enjoy causing harm are by definition sociopaths/psychopaths.May 06 18:28
_Goblinmsb__, well you can't have your theories both ways...either you think they are "crazy" or they are on the payroll of microsoft...May 06 18:28
_GoblinI'd suggest the former rather than the latter...May 06 18:29
msb___Goblin: They are sociopaths whom MS pays.May 06 18:29
_Goblinof course... and you know this how?May 06 18:29
formic_someone who is willingly shilling for microsoft would be insaneMay 06 18:29
msb__Several of them have posted 29,000 vicious lying anti-Linux articles.May 06 18:30
_Goblinmsb__, what you are looking for is a pantomime bad guy.....May 06 18:30
_Goblinso?May 06 18:30
_GoblinRoy used to post alotMay 06 18:30
_GoblinI've posted a few thousandMay 06 18:30
_Goblinyoure not doing too bad yourselfMay 06 18:30
_GoblinI've spent 4 years writing on the same site... am I mad?May 06 18:31
msb___Goblin: No, I am postulating by far the most likely explanation for what's going on in cola.May 06 18:31
formic_You don't have a 50,000+ article countMay 06 18:31
_Goblinand formic_ look at half of them....May 06 18:31
msb__Roy didn't lie when he was posting.May 06 18:31
_GoblinI'd guess in terms of wordage, my total online writing comes close to that of the wintrollMay 06 18:32
_Goblinso Msb, whats your feeling when I think you are unhinged or deluded at your 911 theories? Am I mad? are you? May 06 18:33
_Goblinone of us is wrong.May 06 18:33
msb___Goblin: But you don't lie (except to propagate the govt lies about 9/11).May 06 18:33
_Goblinah..... and you prove this how?May 06 18:33
_Goblinby what you've read?May 06 18:33
formic_msb__ i don't think that is lyingMay 06 18:33
formic_he honestly believes the official storyMay 06 18:33
formic_doesn't make him a liarMay 06 18:33
_GoblinBut I think he's deluded.May 06 18:34
_GoblinWhat do you think formic?May 06 18:34
_Goblinthe point is....May 06 18:34
_Goblinnot to knock msb and his theories...May 06 18:34
_Goblinbut to say that this is the internet...get over it.May 06 18:34
formic_I don't trust the gov't story but I'm not going to jump on crazy theories like thermite dust.May 06 18:34
msb___Goblin: Go to my website, the 911 page, and follow the links to the various 911 research sites.  I did not create those ideas, those physics papers.May 06 18:34
_Goblindon't start msb....May 06 18:34
msb__They are NOT theories, and they are not mine.May 06 18:35
_Goblinyou claim I help keep a lie by the government...May 06 18:35
formic_I think its very simple: Bin Laden was trained and worked for the CIAMay 06 18:35
msb__formic_: That's certainly true.May 06 18:35
_GoblinI claim you are easily led.... other people can look at mine and your views and decide for themselves.May 06 18:35
formic_the CIA benefited a lot out of 9/11May 06 18:35
_Goblinof course it did...May 06 18:35
_Goblinit was used as a rallying cry to push whatever they wantedMay 06 18:36
formic_I don't believe Bin Laden was ever off their payrollMay 06 18:36
msb__Not just the CIA, but the whole ultra-wealthy control class known as the NWO.May 06 18:36
_Goblin911 was also used by the UK government to release all its bad news on 9/11May 06 18:36
formic_the NWO tells the CIA what to doMay 06 18:36
_Goblinpeople were distracted with the disaster to notice....May 06 18:36
msb__formic_: correctMay 06 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Government of Iceland Plans a Migration to Open Source Software 06 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Cause — and Questions — in #Cambodia - depressing; let's hope some good comes of it (v @bdarcus) #deforestationMay 06 18:37
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_GoblinFormic... NWO?May 06 18:37
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msb__911 was used as the excuse to destroy the US Bill of Rights.May 06 18:37
_GoblinNew World Order?May 06 18:37
formic_it doesnt take much to figure out who is running the worldMay 06 18:37
formic_who does government pay for its debt?May 06 18:37
_Goblinand you wonder why people think you are Brandon!..... lol.....May 06 18:37
formic_thats who runs the worldMay 06 18:37
_Goblinyep...May 06 18:37
_Goblinsays someone who is unemployed I'm guessingMay 06 18:37
msb___Goblin: watch the videos linked on my homepage.May 06 18:37
_GoblinnoMay 06 18:38
formic__Goblin - there are a lot of conspiracy theorists in HamiltonMay 06 18:38
_Goblinyou watch mine.... read my views....May 06 18:38
formic_I'm part of the Hamilton Anarchists society, we talk about banksters all the timeMay 06 18:38
_Goblinyou wouldn't change your views....they are yours... Your silly videos won't change mineMay 06 18:38
_Goblinformic_, of course...silly me...May 06 18:38
_Goblinunemployed?May 06 18:38
formic_noMay 06 18:39
_Goblinlow income?May 06 18:39
msb___Goblin: Those videos are full of irrefutable _evidence_.May 06 18:39
formic_self-employed mid incomeMay 06 18:39
_Goblinso why are you still in the system? paying taxes et al?May 06 18:39
formic_IT contract workMay 06 18:39
_Goblinthis evil NWO needs you to fight it!May 06 18:39
_Goblinor do you evade tax?May 06 18:39
formic_its illegalMay 06 18:39
_Goblinbut...its evil!May 06 18:39
_Goblinits run by the NWO?May 06 18:39
formic_all i can do is fight to change the lawsMay 06 18:39
formic_i cant break the law to fight to NWOMay 06 18:40
formic_thats what they wantMay 06 18:40
_Goblinhow can we look to support you "freedom fighters" if you won't tackle the issues?May 06 18:40
formic_then they can send in their UN troopsMay 06 18:40
_Goblinah of course.....May 06 18:40
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_Goblinand black helicopters...May 06 18:40
_Goblindon't forget themMay 06 18:40
formic_whats with this black helicopters stuffMay 06 18:40
formic_thats 90s shitMay 06 18:40
_Goblinand if Brandon was here (lol) would be neanderthals too.May 06 18:40
_Goblinchanged colour did they?May 06 18:41
formic_the gov't has insectoid dronesMay 06 18:41
_Goblinwhat are they now?May 06 18:41
_Goblinpink ones?May 06 18:41
_Goblinwith a little sparkly number on?May 06 18:41
msb___Goblin: When you refuse to access the data provided by intelligent people, then you are just bullshitting.May 06 18:41
_Goblinreally...May 06 18:41
_Goblinshow me an intelligent person talking msb...I'll listenMay 06 18:41
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formic_!google insect dronesMay 06 18:41
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msb__Watch the David Icke video linked on my homepage.  It's a good review.May 06 18:42
_Goblinfinish this msb...I'm not interested in your madcap views....May 06 18:42
formic_msb__ you realize David Icke thinks the moon is a reptilian moon base?May 06 18:42
_Goblinand nobody buys it...May 06 18:42
_Goblinso everyone must be thick msb...May 06 18:42
_Goblinor does someone....anyone here want to come forward and say they agree with Msb's 911 nonsense?May 06 18:43
msb__formic_: Never heard of that.  Reference?May 06 18:43
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formic_He claims the moon is not real, its hallow and its a base.May 06 18:43
_GoblinlolMay 06 18:43
_Goblinis that your intelligent source msb...?May 06 18:43
_Goblinfigures.May 06 18:43
msb___Goblin: Thinking does not mean agreeing or disagreeing based on what you think of the proponent.May 06 18:44
formic_Back in 1991, David Icke said he was the son of GodMay 06 18:44
_GoblinI am asking if anyone buys a word of what you are saying...May 06 18:44
_Goblinnobody does.May 06 18:44
msb__Thinking means examining the evidence, and incorporating it into as accurate a model of the world as you can.May 06 18:44
_Goblinnobody is interested....May 06 18:44
msb__Or rejecting it for good reason.May 06 18:44
_GoblinyepMay 06 18:44
_Goblinalways someone elses fault...May 06 18:44
_Goblineveryone here (for example) is ignorant or in on it.May 06 18:45
_Goblinwell thats that sorted outMay 06 18:45
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msb___Goblin: Lots of people are interested -- millions all around the world.May 06 18:45
_Goblinoh yes interested......but to believe it has any merit?May 06 18:45
_Goblinnobody responded here.May 06 18:45
_GoblinI'll ask later....May 06 18:45
_Goblinlets see if we can get even one person who buys it.May 06 18:45
msb___Goblin: If you refuse to examine the evidence, that doesn't make you right or give you any standing.  It just means you are refusing to think.May 06 18:46
_GoblinI've already seen evidence......May 06 18:46
kariThen I must respond. I don't believe in reptilians but I certainly believe that 9/11 was inside job. Tell me please what caused WTC 7 to come down.May 06 18:46
formic_kari +1May 06 18:46
_Goblinmaybe speak to Roy and ask him to confirm or deny, that in terms of "experience" in first hand....I have far more than you.May 06 18:46
_Goblinin relation to all your sillyness.May 06 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Solutions: Arrest-Proof Yourself: An Interview with Dale C. Carson 06 18:47
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msb___Goblin: what experience is that?May 06 18:47
formic_ 06 18:47
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kariWho to fuck is David Icke?May 06 18:47
_GoblinKari..... you're one.. great....May 06 18:48
formic_Who to fuck?May 06 18:48
formic_LOLMay 06 18:48
msb__Icke is a political researcher.May 06 18:48
_Goblinnow terms of non-reptiles why you think the building came down?May 06 18:48
formic_Icke is batshit insane, tbhMay 06 18:48
_Goblinno he's not he's msbs expertMay 06 18:48
msb__Watch his video linked on my homepage.  He gives a good review of the _facts_.May 06 18:49
formic_he thinks hes the son of god, thinks reptilians are running the world, and that the moon is a space ship or some kind of baseMay 06 18:49
_GoblinI'm going to look up this moonbase... sounds coolMay 06 18:49
_Goblinformic_, don't diss the expert...May 06 18:49
kariWell in my opinions it was controlled demolition. It resembles that totally. Compare it. Actually there are lot of examples in YoutubeMay 06 18:49
msb__He does not mention reptilians.May 06 18:49
_Goblinwhy can't he be son of God?May 06 18:49
formic_yes he does!May 06 18:49
msb__Not in that lecture.May 06 18:49
_Goblinah thats ok thenMay 06 18:49
_Goblinwhat about the God thing?May 06 18:49
formic_not in that one lecture, but he does in the othersMay 06 18:49
_Goblinlol....May 06 18:50
_Goblinoh hang on....May 06 18:50
_GoblinDavid Icke...yesMay 06 18:50
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kariWell there is one son of the God - Jesus - that's it.May 06 18:50
_Goblinhe used to be a footballer too didn't he?May 06 18:50
formic_David Icke - The Reptilians - the Schism - Obama and the New world Order.May 06 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Kansas abortion bill lets doctors lie to patients, withhold cancer treatment - staggering in its twisted awfulnessMay 06 18:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Using Avastin for eye condition wet AMD 'could save NHS £84m' - hilarious to see pharma's "safety concern" (v @McDawg)May 06 18:50
msb__It doesn't matter if he said he's the son of the Devil.  The important thing is the facts that he gives.May 06 18:50
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_Goblinmsb__, what about the moonbase fact? is that ok?May 06 18:50
msb__Does he say that it's a fact?May 06 18:51
_Goblinmsb__, he may be the son of God too...that could be a fact...?May 06 18:51
_Goblinmsb__, you're second guessing him... have you asked?May 06 18:51
msb__Depends on meaning -- we are all sons and daughters of God/Goddess.May 06 18:51
_Goblinits ok, I think I remember who he is nowMay 06 18:51
_Goblinits all coming back....May 06 18:51
_Goblinfootballer?May 06 18:52
_GoblinSon of God....May 06 18:52
_GoblinMoonbasesMay 06 18:52
formic_what about the moon matrixMay 06 18:52
_Goblin911 conspiracy...May 06 18:52
_Goblinyep....May 06 18:52
formic_seriously, this guy has massive red flagsMay 06 18:52
kariGoblin you still have not explained how WTC 7 came downMay 06 18:52
formic_you should be questioning his factsMay 06 18:52
_Goblinnatural progession.... go from the premier league to 911 conspiracies.... i don't know about anyone  else but I'm convinced.May 06 18:52
_Goblinkari, if I could I would have given it.... I am not though prepared to believe a scam on that scale would remain hushed up and be pulled off so easilyMay 06 18:53
formic_its people like David Icke that make conspiracies sound nutsMay 06 18:53
_Goblinformic_, you'll go to hellMay 06 18:53
_Goblinformic_, thats the son of god there.May 06 18:53
formic_lolMay 06 18:53
formic_David Icke himself probably works for gov't, to make conspiracy theorists seem crazyMay 06 18:54
_Goblinformic_, you watch.... for dissing the icke we'll be invaded by the moonbase nowMay 06 18:54
_Goblinformic_, your styleMay 06 18:54
_Goblinformic_, perhaps, he's the son of God come to remove government by pretending to work for them in order to cheapen conspiracies?May 06 18:54
_Goblinnow thats a conspiracyMay 06 18:55
_Goblinget your head around that.May 06 18:55
formic_hold on, this green guy is knocking on my doorMay 06 18:55
_Goblindon't open it...May 06 18:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Failure of Central Planning - & yet it rules our worldMay 06 18:55
_Goblinswing hard swing long......May 06 18:55
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_Goblinor words to that effect (from the movie Signs)May 06 18:55
kariWhy? that green fella might be friendly and give tools to kill MSMay 06 18:55
_Goblinor worse...May 06 18:56
_Goblinit could be ballmerMay 06 18:56
_GoblinI'd rather have the alien knocking than monkey boy.May 06 18:56
kariGRINMay 06 18:56
msb__  David Icke in talk about the Moon quotes Isaac Asimov -- an authentic scientist -- as saying that size and orbit of Moon is very unlikely.May 06 18:57
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msb__Information about conspiracies (or anything else) cannot be cheapened, except to people who do not think, but instead rely on popularity to determine what they call the truth.May 06 19:00
_Goblinright..back after smoke....feel much better...May 06 19:03
_GoblinI think the bottom line is:May 06 19:03
_GoblinYou can believe whatever you like, you can believe three headed serpents from Uranus were responsible....what makes me cross is......May 06 19:03
_Goblinall these conspiracies (and theres many) all detract from the FACT that thousands of innocent people died.May 06 19:04
_Goblinand thats a tragedy....May 06 19:04
msb__There are only a few theories about 9/11.  May 06 19:04
_Goblinof course if you disagree with the conspiracies...its a case of "you;ve been mislead" or "youre working for them"....May 06 19:04
_Goblinso its pointless engaging....May 06 19:05
_Goblinmsb__, so that makes it all better..? thousands of people can die and we get distracted by theories?May 06 19:05
_Goblinits shamefulMay 06 19:05
_Goblinits disgusting....May 06 19:05
msb__And since 3,000 died, and 2,000,000 more in Afghanistan and Iraq were murdered using 9/11 as the pretext, it is very important to figure out who really was behind the attacks.May 06 19:05
_Goblinvery true msb__ and thats a whole other tragedyMay 06 19:06
_Goblinblame who you want........May 06 19:06
msb__There is a whole big official document written by the Neocons/Zionists saying that we need "a new Pearl Harbor" to motivate people to accept a big war to reshape the Middle East (so it will be controlled by US and Israel).May 06 19:07
msb__It was written a few years before 9/11, which _was_ the new Pearl Harbor.May 06 19:08
_Goblinand without reading the article myself (after all you cite Icke in past argument) I'd say that any notion of any war is disturbing.....May 06 19:08
_Goblinbut then you would not know would you msb? you've never been in conflict have you? infact its very easy to set the world to rights behind a keyboard in the comfort of your home....May 06 19:09
msb__There are two possibilities: 1. a bunch of crazed Moslems led by OBL destroyed the Towers, and 2. implanted explosives and thermite, which could not have been place by Moslems, destroyed the towers.May 06 19:10
msb__That's why the physics analysis of what destroyed the towers is so important.May 06 19:10
_Goblinand you take that physics partly from Icke (the man with the moonbase)May 06 19:11
msb__To know whether OBL gang did it, or whether it was an inside job, and thus a false-flag terror operation, by the US and Israel.May 06 19:11
msb__Not at all.  Icke is not a physics researcher.May 06 19:12
_Goblinthe biggest scam in human history, played out on TV without anyone saying "hang on, I was told to do this"???May 06 19:12
_Goblinof course...makes perfect sense.May 06 19:12
_GoblinAnd WIKIleaks never got hold of it?May 06 19:12
_Goblinor maybe they did.........another conspiracy comingMay 06 19:13
msb__These guys are physicists: 06 19:13
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msb__Read the research papers there, written by physicists.May 06 19:13
_Goblinand theres plenty of scientists who dismiss...... so all the sources I would cite are wrong and yours are right? what else you got? Icke?May 06 19:13
_Goblinis Icke the tipping point?May 06 19:14
_Goblinand re: Icke and being a physicist, I'm surprised he's not....he's claimed almost everything else...May 06 19:14
msb___Goblin: No, and understanding of physics, so you can figure out who is telling the truth and who is lying, is the tipping point.May 06 19:14
msb___Goblin: No, an understanding of physics, so you can figure out who is telling the truth and who is lying, is the tipping point.May 06 19:14 why are people who think like you in a minority?May 06 19:14
msb__There is no substitute for actual _thinking_.  None!May 06 19:15
_Goblineveryone else thick? stupid? easily led?May 06 19:15
_Goblineven in COLA, you can't get people buying this totMay 06 19:15
msb__People are constantly propagandized by the corporate/govt media.May 06 19:15
_Goblinwell since I hardly touch my TV...I'm ok.May 06 19:16
msb__If you read and understand the physics papers -- if you actually think, and not go by popularity -- then you will see who is right.May 06 19:16
_GoblinI choose nothing by popularity.....otherwise I wouldn't be doing what you don't ..... Writing about linux for 4 years.May 06 19:16
_GoblinI'd be an apple user...May 06 19:17
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_Goblinor a Windows user....I'd have bought into the hype.May 06 19:17
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msb___Goblin: Linux is something that you have chosen to think about.  But you refuse to actually think about 9/11.May 06 19:17
_Goblinmsb__, Roy, I believe has examined your POV....I don't believe he agrees... is he thick too?May 06 19:17
_Goblinor just refusing to think?May 06 19:18
msb__Roy has been successfully propagandized.  He also refuses to look at the data.May 06 19:18
_Goblinah.... well.....I'm convinced.May 06 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A christian horror movie about porn - I don't think a comment is needed... !atheism #religion !secularismMay 06 19:18
_Goblinso except for maybe Kari who is a little sceptical......everyone else has been played the sucker except you?May 06 19:19
_Goblinright....May 06 19:19
_GoblinI wish you'd just said that in the beginning then we wouldn't have had to go through all that.May 06 19:19
msb__Roy's work shows that he is very intelligent.  So I think he has been successfully propagandized, rather than that he is stupid.May 06 19:19
_Goblinright...May 06 19:19
_Goblinwell msb...when you get up from behind your keyboard and start actually proactively putting this point across (instead of here) to at best 39 people....then I may have a little more time for it...May 06 19:20
msb___Goblin: I understand some physics, and I have read some of those papers. May 06 19:21
_Goblinit didn't stop Icke.....go for it.....May 06 19:21
_Goblinjust avoid the whole moonbase thing....May 06 19:21
msb__I have a good website up.  May 06 19:21
_Goblinah... government must have blocked it for me.... never seen it.May 06 19:21
_Goblinanyway.......May 06 19:22
_GoblinI've got some important work to do and this is distracting me.......May 06 19:22
_GoblinI have an apt with a bottle of bleach and the ubend in our loo..... bblMay 06 19:22
msb__cosmicpenguin.comMay 06 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Back home. #needbeerMay 06 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Can I see double facepalms everywhere, please? Apple. 06 19:35
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_Goblinback....albeit shortly...took at look at what I assume you mean is your site.... msb ...May 06 19:38
_Goblinnice RMSesque theme you got running there......May 06 19:38
_Goblinis there anything on that site of your theories or views or is it just a series of links of other peoples work? maybe you've been reading too much of others and not thinking of your own views.....May 06 19:39
_GoblinWe've already established you are not a physicist , so how you can know that your sources of expertise are better than the official ones is anyone's guess.May 06 19:40
_Goblinbet youre kicking yourself for having so many David Icke references as sources........ I didn't think for one minute it was the same David that we knew and love in the UK!!!!! my god....May 06 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bimbo's Initiation: An Old Cartoon About Masonic Initiation (video) | The Vigilant Citizen #vc #xfiles #tptbMay 06 19:43
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msb___Goblin: My views are reflected in the sources that I link to.May 06 19:46
XFaCE_Goblin: I'm still hereMay 06 19:46
_Goblinwhat like Icke? You sourced him earlierMay 06 19:47
_GoblinXFaCE, hello mate!May 06 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Apple Security Blunder Exposes Lion Login Passwords In Clear Text - Slashdot ooooppssssMay 06 19:47
XFaCEPrurigro is 8/9 interesting in TechbytesMay 06 19:47
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XFaCE_Goblin: so it looks like we're a goMay 06 19:48
_GoblinXFaCE, excellent!May 06 19:48
_GoblinXFaCE, what sort of time suits?May 06 19:48
msb__I link to one Icke video because it's an excellent review of who controls the earth.May 06 19:48
_Goblinand you used him here to encourage me to view.....May 06 19:48
XFaCEWeekdays 1-5, with an "iffy" condition TuesdaysMay 06 19:49
XFaCEESTMay 06 19:49
_Goblinlike I say, I had no clue it was the SAME David Icke I already knew.May 06 19:49
XFaCEActually EDT nowMay 06 19:49
msb__His talk that I link to is very informative.May 06 19:49
_GoblinI'm sure it is msb__ we've had plenty of them here in the UKMay 06 19:49
_Goblinused to be a footballer you knowMay 06 19:49
_Goblinand now he's very wealthy....May 06 19:49
_Goblinexposing the evil NWO.........very profitable it appears.May 06 19:50
_Goblinis that what this is all about msb__ you want a piece of that wealth?May 06 19:50
XFaCE_Goblin: It's really much simpler that thatMay 06 19:50
XFaCE_Goblin: The world is run by short-term thinkingMay 06 19:50
XFaCEMystery solveMay 06 19:50
XFaCEdMay 06 19:50
_Goblinlong term stupid.....I think can be added to politiansMay 06 19:50
msb___Goblin: But you refuse to access and actually think about the info people are presenting, and instead accept or reject it base on popularity.May 06 19:50
_Goblinmsb__, with Icke....I've watched many.....May 06 19:51
msb__Well, watch this one.May 06 19:51
XFaCEmsb__: I reject based on science and common senseMay 06 19:51
msb__Or don't.  I think you are hopeless.May 06 19:51
_Goblinand yes....I do reject it.... I reject moonbases, reptiles invading the earth, his claims of being the son of god...I reject all of that...May 06 19:51
_Goblinand now his angle is 911....he's made alot of moneyMay 06 19:51
cubezzzwho is saying that?May 06 19:51
XFaCEWhat a dumb moronMay 06 19:52
_GoblinDavid Icke....May 06 19:52
cubezzzohMay 06 19:52
XFaCEDoestn' he know that DiabloD3 is the son of god?May 06 19:52
XFaCEObviouslyMay 06 19:52
_GoblinI won't accept what he says so according to msb__ I'm hopeless.May 06 19:52
_Goblinsorry.... I'm just not buying his POV.....May 06 19:52
XFaCEDiablo=Devil, and he is sarcastic a lot of the timeMay 06 19:52
_Goblinhe lost me around the time he left football and claimed to be the son of godMay 06 19:52
msb__Yes, _Goblin, you reject everything that's different from what you already believe.  That guarantees that you will never learn anything new.May 06 19:52
cubezzzcan't we just bash M$ as usual? :)May 06 19:53
_Goblinyou can't bash ickeMay 06 19:53
XFaCEcubezzz: Windows 7 is big pooMay 06 19:53
_Goblinyou'll go to hellMay 06 19:53
XFaCEcubezzz: I might as well dump pig feces on my hard driveMay 06 19:53
formic_BackMay 06 19:53
XFaCEformic_: QweetMay 06 19:53
formic_I don't know what we were talking about before but hail Microsoft!May 06 19:53
XFaCE_Goblin: Watch this insteadMay 06 19:53
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_Goblinmsb__, and you do exactly the same...its called having a pov,,,,the difference between me and you is that I am not using someone who claims to be the son of God as my source.May 06 19:53
formic_9/11 was perpetrated by islamic terroristsMay 06 19:54
_Goblinfrom the moon?May 06 19:54
_Goblindressed as lizards?May 06 19:54
XFaCE_Goblin: Son of *his God FTFYMay 06 19:54
formic_What noMay 06 19:54
_Goblinhelped by the second coming?May 06 19:54
XFaCEformic_: He's being sarcasticMay 06 19:54
_GoblinI jest formic_  ... i know you don't have those views.May 06 19:54
formic_:)May 06 19:54
msb__Yes, _Goblin, joke about what was used as the excuse to murder 2,000,000 people.May 06 19:55
XFaCEmsb__: Straw-manMay 06 19:55
_Goblindont you dare msb__ May 06 19:55
_GoblinI was the one who chastised you for cheapening the deaths of thousands with your silly conspiraciesMay 06 19:55
XFaCEAnd when did you stop beating your wife?May 06 19:55
formic_Stop?May 06 19:56
_Goblin?May 06 19:56
formic_Why would you stop? that's sillyMay 06 19:56
msb__Consider the word "conspiracy".  For our purposes it means planning secretly to do evil.May 06 19:56
_Goblinleave it msb__ May 06 19:56
msb__Do you believe that some people in the world do evil?May 06 19:56
formic_the word conspiracy does not have anything to do with 'evil'May 06 19:57
_Goblinno of course I don't everyone is happy...everyone is fluffy.....May 06 19:57
XFaCEformic_: _Goblin: I was just pointing out what he is doing with a common exampleMay 06 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @jwildeboer: Can I see double facepalms everywhere, please? Apple. 06 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hollande is the new French President.May 06 19:57
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formic_it's a plan by two or more people in secretMay 06 19:57
_GoblinXFaCE, I agree...May 06 19:57
msb__Do you think they plan it openly or in secret?May 06 19:57
_Goblinbut yet you know about it....May 06 19:57
_GoblinrightMay 06 19:57
_Goblinand you post here....May 06 19:57
_Goblinand on a blog that looked like you've pirated (sic) RMS's site?May 06 19:57
msb__I said "for our purposes".  We are talking about plans to do evil.May 06 19:58
_Goblinso you msb__ are the one to help uncover all this evil planning.May 06 19:58
formic_msb__ is pirating RMS's site?May 06 19:58
formic_no wayMay 06 19:58
_Goblinlol...May 06 19:58
msb__No, I just have a good website that links to a lot of good info.May 06 19:58
_Goblinit was said a desperate attempt to get msb away from this subject,May 06 19:58
_Goblinmsb__, where's your readership counter?May 06 19:59
msb__My site is not a blog, and I have not visited RMS's site..May 06 19:59
_Goblinmsb__, wheres your links from the bigger named sites?May 06 19:59
_Goblinmsb__, its a bunch of links that looks like its fallen through a time vortex from the www of 1997May 06 19:59
msb__My site has been moved to a new server.  The URL to the hit charts no longer works.  May 06 19:59
msb__"bigger named sites" ???May 06 20:00
_Goblindamn government again...conspiring to take away your counter I reckonMay 06 20:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apple security blunder exposes Lion login passwords in clear text 06 20:00
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_Goblinwell....who puts their name to your "work" by linking to it?May 06 20:00
msb__I neither know nor care.  I link to the most accurate and imporant info that I can find.May 06 20:01
_Goblinwell you do care.... You claim its  "a good website".... whats the basis for that opinion?May 06 20:01
XFaCEAnd how exactly do you judge accuracy?May 06 20:02
_GoblinXFaCE, well if it doesn't support msb__  then at best you've been mislead.May 06 20:02
formic_If I made a website I would think it's good tooMay 06 20:02
_GoblinXFaCE, thats the strength of it.May 06 20:02
_Goblinformic_, so he does care.May 06 20:02
_Goblinformic_, as per my point.May 06 20:02
msb__By correlating various sources of info, looking for consistency, contradiction, and consistency with laws of physics.May 06 20:03
_Goblinand linking Icke.... Don't forget that bitMay 06 20:03
_Goblinso thats consistent source is it?May 06 20:03
_Goblinthat falls into your remit of whats worthy for your site of links?May 06 20:03
msb__That Icke lecture is an excellent review of the world situation.May 06 20:04
_Goblinsourcing Icke as you have in respect of any subject is a little like sourcing Muller when talking about Patents.May 06 20:04
_GoblinI suppose though Muller has a valid reason for his view....May 06 20:05
_Goblinmoney...May 06 20:05
XFaCEor sourcing Bill Gates when talking about fair competitionMay 06 20:05
_Goblinoh hang on...May 06 20:05
_Goblinso does Icke.... his theories have made him rich.May 06 20:05
msb__Unlike you, I judge info by overall consistency from what I know from other sources, IOW my mental model of the world.May 06 20:05
XFaCEding ding ding!May 06 20:05
_Goblinmsb__, I have now grasped your mental model thanks.May 06 20:06
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_Goblinmmm....May 06 20:06
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_Goblinyou're not from the UK are you msb__ ?May 06 20:06
msb__No, you have consistently BS'ed about what I've said, and totally refuse to access the info that would enable you to understand my model.May 06 20:06
_Goblinhave I msb__ ? where?May 06 20:07
msb__No, US.May 06 20:07
_Goblinthank god.....(no pun intended David)May 06 20:07
_Goblinwhere have I BS'd? Mark?May 06 20:07
_Goblinyou didn't like to Icke or earlier in this channel try to source him?May 06 20:08
formic_msb__ one of your info sources thinks the moon is not real, and that its a spaceship or a reptilian baseMay 06 20:08
formic_can't you find a better talk by someone elseMay 06 20:08
msb__Over and over you refuse to actually access, evaluate information, and THINK.May 06 20:08
formic_he can't be the only person speaking against fascismMay 06 20:08
formic_msb__ why can't you THINK about the moon matrixMay 06 20:08
_Goblinmsb__, so that means I've bullshitted you because I challenged your views/sources?May 06 20:08
_Goblinmsb__, right... I can add liar to my opinion of you now too.May 06 20:09
XFaCE_Goblin: ok okMay 06 20:09
_GoblinXFaCE, :)May 06 20:09
XFaCE_Goblin:  enough you two, you are just going around in circlesMay 06 20:09
XFaCElet's move on to more important issuesMay 06 20:09
_Goblineliptical circles...May 06 20:09
msb__No, because you come up with excuse after excuse to refuse to access the information and actually think about it.May 06 20:09
_Goblinand that makes it BS? rubbish...May 06 20:10
msb__Refusal to think is the worst kind of BS.May 06 20:10
XFaCELet's face the facts that we all die someday, that climate change probably won't be corrected in time, and the future looks bleak and painful for our ancestors.May 06 20:10
XFaCE*descendents May 06 20:10
XFaCENEXTMay 06 20:10
_Goblinmsb__, of course... .May 06 20:10
XFaCE_Goblin: What program are we using for VOIP now?May 06 20:11
_Goblinhow about we talk about......May 06 20:11
_GoblinahMay 06 20:11
XFaCEFuck noMay 06 20:11
_Goblingood question.....May 06 20:11
_Goblinwell...May 06 20:11
_Goblinwe have choices...May 06 20:11
XFaCEmsb__ had a good suggestionMay 06 20:11
_Goblinmumble....May 06 20:11
XFaCEA program called IHUMay 06 20:11
_Goblinor a SIPP client.......May 06 20:11
_Goblinor even Skype...May 06 20:11
XFaCEwhich apparently has low bandwidth requirements and using IP address for contactingMay 06 20:11
XFaCE_Goblin: No man, no more proprietary junk like thatMay 06 20:12
XFaCEEspecially since it is owned by MicrosoftMay 06 20:12
_Goblinwell the only reason I suggest skype is that its got a decent recorder plug in....May 06 20:12
XFaCE_Goblin: I can record using AudacityMay 06 20:12
_Goblinmumble is good....but I've yet to give that a whole run....May 06 20:12
XFaCERecording isn't that hardMay 06 20:12
iophkXFaCE: how do you plug Audacity into a SIP client?May 06 20:12
_Goblinthats what I was going to askMay 06 20:13
XFaCEiophk: Just take the audio output of your computerMay 06 20:13
_Goblinmyself and Roy had limited success with thatMay 06 20:13
XFaCEor, each person record their microphone and each soundtrack is layered on top of one anotherMay 06 20:13
_GoblinXFaCE, you have a possible syncing issue with each recording...May 06 20:13
_Goblin*personMay 06 20:14
XFaCEGood pointMay 06 20:14
_GoblinMumble?May 06 20:14
XFaCEMumble is a good optionMay 06 20:14
XFaCEIn fact, that's what BZFlag recommends for game communincations IIRCMay 06 20:14
_GoblinI've not given that a complete run but it works well and Gordon sings its praises.May 06 20:14
XFaCE_Goblin: And crivins seems to be rendered wellMay 06 20:15
XFaCEThere is also IHU, as I have saidMay 06 20:15
XFaCEmsb__: How well has it worked for you of late?May 06 20:15
_Goblinwell I'm easy as to what we use.May 06 20:15
XFaCE_Goblin: No dump computer weirdness?May 06 20:15
XFaCEI remember Gordon having problems with several programs :PMay 06 20:15
msb__I'm sure IHU works as well as it used to -- there's no central server involved.  Only problem is no conference calls.May 06 20:16
_GoblinI think Mumble is the way...May 06 20:16
formic_Xface - mumble is greatMay 06 20:16
XFaCEmsb__: dangMay 06 20:16
XFaCE_Goblin: formic_ : I guess soMay 06 20:17
XFaCEIHU would be great for a two person episodeMay 06 20:17
XFaCEOk, Mumble it isMay 06 20:17
formic_mumble is starting to gain popularity for gamersMay 06 20:17
_GoblinI've already got Mumble up and runningMay 06 20:17
XFaCEThere is SIP, PSI+, but those seem flakeyMay 06 20:17
XFaCEformic_: Yeah, I mentioned BZFlag earlierMay 06 20:17
_Goblinhad meant to test with Roy, but since he's away.....May 06 20:17
XFaCEgotchaMay 06 20:18
cubezzzhow much does mumble cost?May 06 20:19
_Goblinfree........May 06 20:19
XFaCEcubezzz: DuhhhMay 06 20:20
msb__FOSS -- 06 20:20
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_GoblinI charge £20 an hour for talking with me..... ;)May 06 20:20
_Goblinand no...not in a dodgy sense....May 06 20:20
XFaCE_Goblin: Fuck man, think of the international currencies~May 06 20:20
XFaCE1 British pound = 1.60669506 Canadian dollarsMay 06 20:21
XFaCEoh wowMay 06 20:21
_Goblinyep.....worth every penny....May 06 20:21
XFaCEmuch less than I expected :PMay 06 20:21
_Goblinfor £40, I'll singMay 06 20:21
cubezzz"Create your Mumble Server on our premium voice communication network and enjoy live customer support, a 30 day "no questions asked" money back guarantee, and instant server setup."May 06 20:21
XFaCEcubezzz: Will you stop shitting on the parade?May 06 20:21
_Goblinyeah, cubezzz I am paying for the premium service......May 06 20:21
_Goblinso for everyone else it will be freeMay 06 20:22
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_Goblinyou've upset him now.May 06 20:22
_Goblin:(May 06 20:22
XFaCEhe's still hereMay 06 20:23
XFaCEcubefc1: May 06 20:23
_Goblinbrb.....have to check on the top coat of a Ultramarine terminator I've been painting.....May 06 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] EUROPAfest 2012 #music #romania #royalMay 06 20:23
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_Goblin"Show no mercy, show no fear"May 06 20:23
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MinceRthought for the day: violence solves everything.May 06 20:29
MinceRgeekingsMay 06 20:30
XFaCEMinceR: Sure, but does it solve averything *well*?May 06 20:30
MinceRask the Mon'Keighs :>May 06 20:30
XFaCEHow 'bout.... noMay 06 20:31
MinceR:)May 06 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: .@YLigtelijn thank you Yvonne. I'll be working until the last day and always active! 06 20:33
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_GoblinMinceR, it certainly does in the year 40,000May 06 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hollande in first speech after election win. "I am a socialist" :-)May 06 20:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Battery Blues: Why Your #Mobile Device Doesn’t Run ... - Input Output #hardwareMay 06 20:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leave only footprints: how #Google's ethical ignorance gets it in trouble one lone engineer - a #Murdoch patented line?May 06 20:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] BBC on Hollandes speech. "Look at the band what a French cliche, I expect someone to come on next in a beret with onions around their neck"May 06 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Diageo to end funding of #HeartlandInstitute after climate change outburst 06 20:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mairin from with 150 dents!May 06 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Lloyds owns stake in US firm accused over #CIA #torture flights 06 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @bramalab W ten wtorek, 08.05, rozpoczynamy pilotażowe wykłady na temat ruchu Wolnego Oprogramowania oraz Open Source. Więcej informa ...May 06 20:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Bank deregulation leads to disaster: shout it from the rooftops 06 20:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gay marriage: a waste of government time? 06 21:00
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formic_As long as you paint them correctlyMay 06 21:03
MinceRwith their own blood! muhahaha!May 06 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The BBC presenter who made the beret and string of onions remark directly after Hollande's speech was Jon sopel. #baddayattheoffice.May 06 21:05
_Goblinthere....May 06 21:07
_Goblintablet charged....May 06 21:07
XFaCE..............................................................May 06 21:08
_GoblinI think I impressed Roy with it when he came over...I'm sure he sent me a text to say he bought one.May 06 21:08
_Goblingo figure this......May 06 21:09
_Goblinlandline connection 260k per sec (thats bytes not bits) on download....May 06 21:10
_Goblintethered Android Phone.... 470k  per sec on downloadMay 06 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Andy Oram 06 21:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A sketch comedy show should rewrite the BBC advert for telly licence with a couple in it. To say something about national debt repayments.May 06 21:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Granny's Dancing on the Table - a GRANNY-INVASION! /via @satipera #kickstarterMay 06 21:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] How to deal with bureaucracy effectively. #funnyMay 06 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Worried. That's all.May 06 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dyfet: my statement on #fbi #wiretapping of #voip and web. Please redistribute widelyMay 06 21:55
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XFaCE_Goblin: what kind o tablet?May 06 21:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf Identizens an early night for me.May 06 22:02
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formic_I got the amazon fire, rooted with better firmwareMay 06 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @satiperaMay 06 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @sweet: Cada vez que una distro libre parchea un paquete, muere un gatito 06 22:12
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_GoblinXFaCE, arnova 10 g2May 06 22:12
_Goblinbought it on a whimMay 06 22:12
XFaCEinterestingMay 06 22:13
XFaCEbblMay 06 22:13
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_Goblinformic_, I really just wanted something to surf, read a few emails and act as a pdf readerMay 06 22:14
formic_any android tablet does that :)May 06 22:14
_Goblinalso its good to take on holiday for the kids and their tv...May 06 22:14
_Goblinyes.....May 06 22:14
_Goblinbut any android tablet wasn't being sold for £105 May 06 22:15
formic_did you root it and install ICS?May 06 22:15
_Goblinand at the time when I was in the shop buying batteries...May 06 22:15
_Goblinand no I didn't root it....May 06 22:15
_Goblindon't need tooMay 06 22:15
formic_looks like it has android 2.3May 06 22:15
_GoblinyepMay 06 22:16
_GoblinI did toy with the idea, but then I thought whats the point of rooting it? I don't need it to do anything else and don't need the latest androidMay 06 22:16
formic_why would you want to use a two year old version of android?May 06 22:17
formic_ICS has much smoother scrolling and more featuresMay 06 22:17
_Goblinwell since it does what I need, why bother?May 06 22:18
formic_you could argue FreeDOS does what you need, why botherMay 06 22:18
formic_lolMay 06 22:18
_Goblinyes but if we look at desktop OS's things mature..... does it surf the net? yes can the wife shop with it? yes.....does it play every media file I've thrown at it? yes...May 06 22:19
formic_you'll start running into apps that require moreMay 06 22:19
_Goblinno I won't since I won't be using them.May 06 22:19
_Goblinusenet = checkMay 06 22:19
_Goblinirc = checkMay 06 22:19
_Goblinweb =checkMay 06 22:19
_Goblinemail =checkMay 06 22:19
formic_until those apps are no longer supported on old androidMay 06 22:20
_GoblindaraIRC has not been updated for years...its works.May 06 22:20
formic_you'll be stuck with old versions that might have security issuesMay 06 22:20
_GoblinGroundhog, the sameMay 06 22:20
formic_you already have an old version of dalvik that could be running quickerMay 06 22:21
formic_its your choice thoughMay 06 22:21
_Goblinformic_, I doubt it.... for the time spent actually online with it and the decreasing usage of gingerbread, will I really be a viable target? no.May 06 22:21
formic_rooting isn't for everyoneMay 06 22:21
_Goblinformic_, its damn punchy for me now....May 06 22:21
formic_good stuff then :)May 06 22:21
_Goblinif it was something I intended to spend time on then yes, I'd probably root it....the kids and the wife will be using it more.May 06 22:21
formic_i come from the pov that old obsolete software is bad but not everyone shares that povMay 06 22:22
formic_cubezzz runs fc1 on a boxMay 06 22:22
_GoblinI'd probably agree, but then there is an old adage - if its not broke don't fixMay 06 22:22
formic_anyway, im glad you enjoy android tablets :)May 06 22:22
_Goblinask the millions of XP users.May 06 22:22
_Goblinalthough not broke is a little too kind...May 06 22:23
formic_XP is broken unless all you have is dual coreMay 06 22:23
formic_and don't mind the 3gb memory limitMay 06 22:23
_Goblinthough its favoured over Vista...May 06 22:23
formic_a lot of people have old hardwareMay 06 22:23
formic_its a waste of a computer if you can't use your 8gb or 64-bit cpuMay 06 22:23
_Goblinformic_, funnily enough it was that attitude (upgrading) which had me in Linux land 100%.....I went with turned me off MS.May 06 22:23
formic_or multiple coresMay 06 22:24
formic_all that stuff works fine on linuxMay 06 22:24
formic_which is my preferenceMay 06 22:24
formic_linux makes very good use of multi cores thanks to serversMay 06 22:24
formic_getting 64-bit software on linux is mostly just a recompile awayMay 06 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Agree w/Falkvinge's notion !Privacy is multilayered. #Facebook should afford users "privacy" similar to what they'd find in private club.May 06 22:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @GuardianData: Greece election results mapped. Infographic 06 22:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] We have a reasonable expectation that a conversation between co-workers in lunch room would not be repeated on the 6:00 news. !privacyMay 06 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] In spite of the "Facebook friends are not 'real' friends" meme, the Internet *is* part of the real world.May 06 22:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Some USAF Pilots Refuse To Fly F-22 Raptor designed at great expense for a threat that no longer existsMay 06 23:03
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DaemonFCWow, John McCain said something intelligent!May 06 23:06
DaemonFCthat there's no use for the F-22 and it's a waste of money unless the terrorists come up with their own air forceMay 06 23:06
DaemonFCthe military loves their obscenely priced weapons, even when we have no enemies that can match the stuff they already haveMay 06 23:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] That's interesting, @pensadorlouco .... do you have a link?May 06 23:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @thistleweb With a name like Charlie (coke) Sheen (bling) it was always a case of "hidden in plain sight"May 06 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Foursqaure still leaves me mystified 06 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims - Challenge UN IPCC & Gore #agwMay 06 23:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A-Z Climate Reality Check...The claims of the promoters of man-made climate fears are failing' #agw #ecotretasMay 06 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Climate Depot Special Report: A-Z Climate Reality Check -- Sub-Prime Science Exposé: 'The claims of the promoters of man-made climate fears are failing' -- Presented to UN Summit   | Climate Depot .::. Size~: 62.06 KBMay 06 23:40
MinceRgnMay 06 23:40
XFaCEDaemonFC: That's F-32s, not F-22sMay 06 23:41
formic_Terrorists don't use encryption.May 06 23:43
formic_Meaning, if you don't use it either you're a terrorist.May 06 23:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ghostdancer “The Physics of Spilled !Coffee - ScienceNOW”: 06 23:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Kernel prepatch 3.4-rc6 06 23:53
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