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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "the growing way money has been allowed to dominate politics in a game both parties play" bit.ly/JndU3P #usa #corruptionMay 18 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #SuddenOutbreakOfCommonSense in Vermont, #USA - #fracking banned bit.ly/LgYKE9May 18 00:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Federal court enjoins #NDAA - Salon.com http://goo.gl/CdWMk #usaMay 18 00:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] Coup averted. For now.. http://ur1.ca/99epgMay 18 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The NDAA's section 1021 coup d'etat foiled | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 180.26 KBMay 18 00:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] There are increasing constitutional doubts over both #ACTA and #TPP: an op-ed by @MargotKaminski https://eff.org/r.a7bk #TPPAMay 18 00:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Time To Realize That The Obama Administration Doesn't Even Have The Authority To Commit The US To ACTA Or TPP | Techdirt .::. Size~: 105.41 KBMay 18 00:54
scientesDae...phew the only tie you need him he is not here....May 18 00:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @p_vanostaeyen bedankt voor tweet :) Blij dat je het eens bentMay 18 01:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Canadian Politician Claims That Ripping A CD To Your iPod Is Like Buying Socks & Stealing Shoes To Go With Them http://goo.gl/rj1h5May 18 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] format shifting paradigm politicians understand - like electing a #politician to serve the public, then have them serve the elite insteadMay 18 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] doesn't matter right? they're still serving someone ;)May 18 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] .@PublicKnowledge gives lesson to @USTradeRep on transparency of #TPP negotiations https://eff.org/r.a7bm #TPPAMay 18 01:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] [W3C Offices blog] Offices Live Face-to-Face Meeting - The W3C Offices got together for the annual Face-to-Face meet... http://ow.ly/1jQBqsMay 18 01:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Hey ITU Member States: No More Secrecy, Release the Treaty documents! Don't mess with the Internet http://t.co/uMXwgphl #privacyMay 18 01:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Oh !Canada blogged: The Verdict is In ~ Byron Sonne Is Free http://www.ur1.ca/99fbf !freeByron !CDNpoliMay 18 02:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Now that blogging is done, its time to make my awesome meatloaf :)May 18 02:17
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oiaohmIts always fun to put a new motherboard under debianMay 18 04:25
oiaohmOnly had to correct kde complaining about lost audio and delete the old network cards.May 18 04:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 This is just laughing at geek jokes. Its a known bugMay 18 04:26
oiaohmAnd everything worksMay 18 04:26
scientesoiaohm, indeedMay 18 04:28
oiaohmNow have 8g of 1333 ddr3 ecc ram in this thing. May 18 04:30
oiaohmYes this is for my desktop.May 18 04:30
oiaohmNow my system is happy I was running out of ram from time to time at 2gMay 18 04:31
oiaohmMain reason for replacing the board was the price to take old board back to 4g where I like was more than motherboard cpu and ram.May 18 04:32
scientesmeh, if i bought a new comp today id go for 16 or 32GBMay 18 04:40
scienteseven though i am only using 2GBMay 18 04:40
oiaohmscientes: 8g is the max for this board.May 18 04:52
oiaohmscientes: thinking I paid nothing for the motherboard or cpu.May 18 04:52
scienteswell that isn't new at all thenMay 18 04:52
oiaohmThey are brand new.May 18 04:52
scientesi bought a board 2 years ago that supported up to 32GBMay 18 04:52
scienteswith only 4 slotsMay 18 04:52
oiaohmCase of someone ordering something and changing mind.May 18 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] I prefer to call them tribal elders.May 18 04:52
scientesit was ddr2 tooMay 18 04:52
scienteswhich is now too expensive to be worth itMay 18 04:53
oiaohmThey paid for it then left it in shop.May 18 04:53
scientesoiaohm, if it supports ddr3 you can get at least 8GB modules in there, so 16GB or 32GB limitMay 18 04:53
oiaohmAnd got another one because this set was too crappy.May 18 04:53
oiaohmThis is DDR3May 18 04:53
scientesits just that when it was released there were only small modules available, so that is what they said in the advertisingMay 18 04:53
scientesbut it will support moreMay 18 04:53
oiaohmThe board itself due to wiring only takes 4g modulesMay 18 04:53
oiaohmYou stick 8 in they will only appear as 4.May 18 04:54
scientesyou can get the doubled-up modules for 8GB modulesMay 18 04:54
scientessome 8GB have 4 chips, some have 8May 18 04:54
scientesif you get ones with 8 chips it will workMay 18 04:54
oiaohmAnd it only has 2 slots.May 18 04:54
oiaohmThis is a hardware locked issue.May 18 04:54
oiaohmReason why board stayed in store.May 18 04:54
oiaohmWith matched cpu.May 18 04:55
oiaohmAnd why I got a freebie.May 18 04:55
oiaohmPerson orders an exact board and exact cpu and they got there homework wrong.May 18 04:55
oiaohmscientes: I had to spend 100 dollars on ram.May 18 04:59
oiaohmscientes: most of my systems are legally fall of back of truck.May 18 04:59
oiaohmscientes: people upgrade or order the wrong thing those parts end up mine.May 18 05:00
scienteswell you did say eccMay 18 05:00
scientesooo you should hook me up with some ;)May 18 05:00
scientesas i said, i only have 2GBMay 18 05:00
scientesand i'd REALLY like some IOMMU hardwareMay 18 05:00
oiaohmThis hardware is IOMMUMay 18 05:00
scientesor AES-IMay 18 05:00
oiaohmGreat board other than the fact it will not take 8 g ram modules.May 18 05:00
oiaohmand it only has 2 slots.May 18 05:01
oiaohmDuel core AMD was free as well.May 18 05:01
oiaohmThis was not my best freebie.May 18 05:02
oiaohmBest freebie was case ram cpu and harddrive.May 18 05:02
oiaohmPeople with custom orders being idiots are so cool.May 18 05:02
oiaohmBecause they have paid for it all in advance.May 18 05:02
oiaohmSo when they don't want to take it you have it signed over and its yours.May 18 05:03
oiaohmscientes: Yes there is an advantage to being a tech.May 18 05:03
oiaohmscientes: about 3 to 4 free motherboards cpu and ram combinations a year.May 18 05:03
scientesholy shitMay 18 05:03
scienteswhat do you do with all that hardware?May 18 05:03
oiaohmEither use it myself.May 18 05:04
oiaohmOr give it to people who deserve it.May 18 05:04
oiaohmReally its not really etheical to resell it to someone else.May 18 05:04
scientesdistcc ;)May 18 05:04
oiaohmI know other techs do that.May 18 05:04
oiaohmYou know those computers out the front in a computer storeMay 18 05:05
oiaohmLot of them turn out to be orders that were not picked up or the person decided they did not want it.May 18 05:05
oiaohmYou would think people would not be so wasteful.May 18 05:06
oiaohmNote there are 4 techs here.May 18 05:06
oiaohmAnd we get 3 to 5 each a year.,May 18 05:06
oiaohmNormally max of 4 full sets.May 18 05:06
oiaohmSometimes this can be cause by companies being slow replace defective items.May 18 05:07
oiaohmscientes: Agree this is kinda shocking numbers.May 18 05:08
oiaohmscientes: so far I have not got a working laptop free.May 18 05:10
oiaohmscientes: that day will have to come.May 18 05:10
oiaohmscientes: to be correct new working laptop free.May 18 05:10
oiaohmscientes: we don't count the upgrade parts we recycle.May 18 05:10
oiaohmscientes: one year we did bother building all the upgrades and so on out to machines.May 18 05:12
oiaohmscientes: we ended up 50 odd machines that we gave to a school.May 18 05:13
oiaohmscientes: school was very what the because the oldest hardware was 2 years old.May 18 05:15
oiaohmscientes: gamers are wasteful.May 18 05:15
scientesno shit gamers are wastefulMay 18 05:16
oiaohmYou can understand why we don't count upgrade parts.May 18 05:17
oiaohmThe volume of that stuff is insane.May 18 05:17
oiaohmIe the left over parts from upgrades.May 18 05:17
oiaohmMind you 50 machines from parts that people signed over to us.  If they don't sign the upgrade parts over to us we return them.May 18 05:18
oiaohmwe don't pay for them of course.May 18 05:19
oiaohmBut we do dispose of them either to scrap to be smashed up or to good causes.May 18 05:19
oiaohmGood causes can include us.May 18 05:19
oiaohmLike 6 months old video card that was top of line 6 months ago a person is replaceing.  So temping to become ours for shop displays or own usage.May 18 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] First ever crowd sourced book creation at FUDCon KL happening now - http://ur1.ca/99g78 Now anyone can participate! #fb #inMay 18 05:22
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oiaohmMind you this policy does stop in store thieft.May 18 05:23
oiaohmWhy steal legal freebies are there by the ton load.May 18 05:23
oiaohmscientes: We have had a few shop lifters try to claim they desperatly needing something.  Then we show judge photo of sign that reads free secound hard parts to people with valid cause.May 18 05:25
oiaohmscientes: and for some reason the book gets throw at them.May 18 05:26
oiaohmscientes: we are nice people but steal from us don't.May 18 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @timttmy !Coffee timeMay 18 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good Morning @theru, !tzag !identiverseMay 18 05:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good morning @KelzOKO @PerpetuahSugar Great day ahead peopleMay 18 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @evan Just got a furiously obscene email from an Indonesian spammer about his identi.ca account. Guess we're doing something right.May 18 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 This is just laughing at geek jokes. Its a known bugMay 18 06:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @nuclearsandwich Fuck it. Gonna hack on the bus.May 18 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @johndrinkwater does Twitter using Do‐Not‐Track mean they’ll stop t.co‐ing URLs in my stream? No? So its just there for added latency ...May 18 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good morning @fredmanglis! Saw a feature equivalent phone @ Ukwala for 3500/- :-|May 18 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US veterans protest Nato's occupation of Chicago http://goo.gl/g0d1jMay 18 06:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US veterans protest Nato's occupation of Chicago | Amy Goodman | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 242.12 KBMay 18 06:09
scientesoiaohm, ;_May 18 06:20
scientes**;)May 18 06:20
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scientes;-)(-;May 18 06:23
scientesis it easy to make C++ libraries which can be accessed from C?May 18 06:30
oiaohmscientes: Not really.May 18 06:32
oiaohmscientes: normally you end up having to make like a c library interfaces with C++ inside.May 18 06:32
scientesyargMay 18 06:32
oiaohmscientes: and that can bring more headaches than you can dream.May 18 06:32
scienteshow about bindings to C++ from scripting languages?May 18 06:32
oiaohmscientes: remember C++ has garbage collection C does not.May 18 06:32
scientescause that seems like C does it betterMay 18 06:33
oiaohmC++ to scripting languages is normaly not too bad.May 18 06:33
oiaohmIt also depends on the scripting language.May 18 06:33
scienteseven when you have two difern't gcs going at once?May 18 06:33
oiaohmSome are written in C++May 18 06:34
oiaohmNot to bad.May 18 06:34
scientesmost serious scripting languages i've seen are written C/nativeMay 18 06:34
oiaohmIs basically you have to sync the gcsMay 18 06:34
scientes*C+their own languageMay 18 06:34
scienteseven non-scripting languages like haskellMay 18 06:34
oiaohmYou can manage C++ to avoid expoising its garbage collection.May 18 06:35
oiaohmscientes: and some scripting languages like python and php get very interesting when it comes to what laugage to use issue. http://shed-skin.blogspot.com/May 18 06:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Shed Skin - A (restricted) Python-to-C++ Compiler .::. Size~: 103.97 KBMay 18 06:37
scientesoiaohm, i dont take php seriouslyMay 18 06:37
scientesoiaohm, ewww, pypy is the direction to goMay 18 06:37
oiaohmhttp://www.python.org/doc/PyCPP.htmlMay 18 06:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lessons in Python/C++ Interactions .::. Size~: 33.88 KBMay 18 06:38
oiaohmpypy due to being JIT is hard in low ram envorments.May 18 06:39
oiaohmshedskin works better in low ram envorments.May 18 06:39
oiaohmscientes: its the envorment sets the method.May 18 06:39
oiaohmAnd cpython still opmises poorly May 18 06:40
scientesi'm sure pypy could be designed for memory usageMay 18 06:40
oiaohmTo be correct its the limit of using JITMay 18 06:40
oiaohmOnly way is AOT or native complier.May 18 06:40
oiaohmin low memory.May 18 06:41
oiaohmThe reason is that when you run out of memory you need to be able to clear the memory.May 18 06:41
oiaohmSo it must be in the rom or other storage before you start.May 18 06:41
oiaohmThere is one exception to this.May 18 06:42
scientesoiaohm, pypy also has an interpreterMay 18 06:42
scientesit switches betweenMay 18 06:42
oiaohmLua May 18 06:42
oiaohmpypy as a interperter is still memory huge.May 18 06:42
scientesif the jit prooves to have bad assumptions it falls back to the interpreter, rather than slowly recompile everything with new assumptionsMay 18 06:42
scientesbut yeahMay 18 06:42
scientesnative is much better memoryMay 18 06:42
oiaohmlua gets insane because its interperter is less than 64 kb.May 18 06:42
oiaohmSo is small enough to fit completely in the cpu cache.May 18 06:43
scienteswowMay 18 06:44
oiaohmSo its works like compression on how much applicaiton code can be fitted into ram.May 18 06:44
scientesooo! its syntax looks alot like ruby :)May 18 06:44
oiaohmIts about the only language that is interperted that runs faster than its converted to native code.May 18 06:44
oiaohmOver all.May 18 06:45
oiaohmAgain its all about disc access requirement.May 18 06:45
scientesno mandatory () with functions, english keywordsMay 18 06:45
scientesno mandatory ;May 18 06:45
oiaohmHave you worked out why a JIT is bad.May 18 06:46
oiaohmYou read code from disc.  You covert to to native that has to be stored in ram.May 18 06:46
oiaohmThat is not on disc somewhere.May 18 06:46
oiaohmThat now in a low memory event has to go to swap or equal.May 18 06:46
scientesyes, its bads when memory pressure hitsMay 18 06:46
scienteswait, maybe it needs () on function parameters...May 18 06:46
oiaohmLua is the odd one out.May 18 06:47
oiaohmMost people don't look at the speeds of there ram.May 18 06:47
oiaohmThe fastest ram you system has is in the cpu.May 18 06:47
scientesindeeedMay 18 06:48
scientesits the fast type of ram, which is much more expensiveMay 18 06:48
oiaohmSo lua beats lot of other things by being small enough to exploit that.May 18 06:48
scientesor just native...May 18 06:48
oiaohmlua can work out faster than native code.May 18 06:48
scientes...exactly what i was going to askMay 18 06:49
oiaohmRemember the compression thing.May 18 06:49
oiaohmYou can fit more lua code in the cpu than native code.May 18 06:49
oiaohmSo you reduce you ram reads.May 18 06:49
oiaohmWhat results in the very strange event of native losing to interperted.May 18 06:49
scientesif lua is that fast, why don't we have compiled lua?May 18 06:51
scientesaka, a binary representation of the exact same tree as the source codeMay 18 06:51
scienteswith all the comments stripped, etcMay 18 06:51
oiaohmlua does contain a bytecode.May 18 06:52
scientesand constant optimization, branch predictionMay 18 06:52
scienteslike .pyc?May 18 06:52
oiaohmBetter.May 18 06:52
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oiaohmbut yes.May 18 06:52
oiaohmlua is very much lets compress the program.May 18 06:52
oiaohmto the most insane ammount possible.May 18 06:53
scientesif you only run it once, it doesn't matterMay 18 06:53
scientesor so infrequently that it gets flushed from the cacheMay 18 06:54
scientesor if you deal with alot of user data and flush it that wayMay 18 06:54
oiaohmNote the lua 64 kb is max ram consume of the interp other than application generated data.May 18 06:55
oiaohmBasically one page or less from ram on most systems.May 18 06:55
oiaohmIts not that expensive to flush out of cpu and pull back in.May 18 06:56
oiaohmLua causes a lot of what the moments.May 18 06:56
scientescode density does matterMay 18 06:57
oiaohmReally code density and design for the limits of cpus does matter.May 18 06:58
oiaohmLot of bytecodes give a high code density but they also give insane overhead to process it.May 18 06:58
oiaohmLua is a case the overhead to process the bytecode is light.May 18 06:59
oiaohmJava python .net JIT's you could not call light.May 18 06:59
scienteshow about YARVMay 18 06:59
scientesits build on bisonMay 18 07:00
scientes(ruby 1.9)May 18 07:00
oiaohmThe magic figure is 64 kb.May 18 07:00
oiaohmIf it can run less than 64 kb of ram it will get the cpu boost.May 18 07:00
oiaohmI don't know how small YARV realy is.May 18 07:01
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scientesalot bigger than that....May 18 07:01
oiaohm64kb is what you need to fit in L1 or less.May 18 07:01
scientesthe entire binary is 2 megabytesMay 18 07:01
oiaohmYou don't want to be out at L2 or normal ram.May 18 07:02
oiaohmYep YARV is too big.May 18 07:02
oiaohmWho would thinking programming to a 64 kb ram system was still important.May 18 07:02
oiaohmL2 is on a lot of systems around 1 meg.May 18 07:03
oiaohmSo if you program as bytecode is less than 1 meg and the interp is less than 64 kb its going to fly.May 18 07:04
oiaohmYes L2 makes ddr3 and ddr4 look slow.May 18 07:04
oiaohmscientes: yes design a system to run like a bat out of hell brings some very strange problems.May 18 07:06
scienteslua is so small there isn't a library....May 18 07:08
scientesyou just embed it!May 18 07:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] When Same-Sex Marriage Was a #Christian Rite http://is.gd/2tBZqB !LGBT !GLBT #gay #gaykrantMay 18 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Good morning @kevie ;-)May 18 07:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Good morning Identica- and Twitterverse tag :-)May 18 07:22
oiaohmscientes: you do agree with me that lua is one of the most wierd languages out there.May 18 07:24
oiaohmscientes: just on the way you use it.May 18 07:24
scientesoiaohm, the syntax looks like rubyMay 18 07:24
scientesbut i havn't used itMay 18 07:24
*scientes is familiar with ruby syntaxMay 18 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lotus Symphony realigns with Apache OpenOffice http://ur1.ca/99gk2 #odf #ibmMay 18 07:31
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schestowitz""Downloads were 87% for Microsoft Windows, 11% MacOS and 2% Linux" Whats your view on the low percent of linux donwloads? Is it because its only sourceforges stats or maybe because most of the freesofftware community has mostly gone for libreoffice?"May 18 07:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1624782#May 18 07:50
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?May 18 07:51
schestowitzLinux comes with OOo/LO preinstalled.May 18 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apache #OpenOffice 3.4 Blows Past 1M Downloads http://ur1.ca/998uo #odf #ibm #tdfMay 18 07:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Time To Realize That The Obama Administration Doesn't Even Have The Authority To Commit The US To ACTA Or TPP http://ur1.ca/99gni #acta #tppMay 18 07:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apache OpenOffice™ 3.4 Blows Past 1M Downloads .::. Size~: 9.35 KBMay 18 07:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Food Stamp Use Picks Up Again, In Los Angeles County http://ur1.ca/99gnk and they try to tell people the "recession is over"May 18 07:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Food Stamp Use Picks Up Again, In Los Angeles County | Gregor.us .::. Size~: 15.88 KBMay 18 07:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] DRM books need to disappear. NOW. (Or, my horrific experience with http://ur1.ca/99gno) http://ur1.ca/99gnp #drm #ebookMay 18 07:54
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: DRM books need to disappear. NOW. (Or, my horrific experience with www.kalahari.com) .::. Size~: 61.36 KBMay 18 07:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/203376494066675712?iid=am-156194753213373237095848734&nid=4+status_timestamp&uid=26603208May 18 07:55
TechrightsBot-tr@Metztli_IT: ♺ @schestowitz Current #IBM #Lotus #Symphony 3.0.1 will morph into a future 'IBM edition' of #Apache #OpenOffice http://t.co/vv2R8JDt #odfMay 18 07:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The future of Android tablet home screens looks like this… http://ur1.ca/99gnv #android #linuxMay 18 07:56
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oiaohmschestowitz: 2 percent is a very high number compared to past libreoffice numbers.May 18 07:58
oiaohmschestowitz: libreoffice vs openoffice is turning into another gnu vs bsd style battle.May 18 08:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Slogan for my music used to be "make friendship, not war", these days it's "make install, not war" my genre is obviously called #nerdcoreMay 18 08:01
oiaohmschestowitz: companies like IBM don't want libreoffice to be the victor because then that means no more exculsive version for them.May 18 08:01
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oiaohmschestowitz: result is the next few year we should see lots of funds go into both projects.May 18 08:05
scientesoiaohm, except that libreoffice can use openoffice code...May 18 08:08
scientes(its GPL3, not 2,  right?)May 18 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Xubuntu 12.04 review - A most pleasant surprise http://ur1.ca/99gqn #ubuntu #xfce #gnu #linuxMay 18 08:16
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schestowitzoiaohm: bsd being apache?May 18 08:16
schestowitzbsd-styleMay 18 08:16
schestowitzand yes, I know about IBM's motives, Weir made it clearerMay 18 08:16
*schestowitz back to coding androidMay 18 08:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Crunchbang #Linux review http://ur1.ca/99gr0 #gnu #debianMay 18 08:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tom’s Top 5 Apps for #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/99gru #gnu #linuxMay 18 08:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Returning to Community http://ur1.ca/99gs6 #gnu #linuxMay 18 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Bye Bye #ArsTechnica http://fwd4.me/10wM #PeterBright #troll #fbMay 18 08:42
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oiaohmschestowitz: apache license is basically the bsd license with moden day requirements over patents and the like.May 18 08:43
scienteshttp://www.robweir.com/blog/2012/05/apache-openoffice-34.htmlMay 18 08:44
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scientesinteresting i thought everyone was behind the libreoffice trainMay 18 08:44
scienteshttp://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/songs-of-the-ibm.htmlMay 18 08:45
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scientessooo.....wierd.....May 18 08:46
scientesi SOOO want that book nowMay 18 08:46
scienteskiller coffee table materialMay 18 08:46
scientes"privately printed"errrrrMay 18 08:47
scientesnot easyMay 18 08:48
scientesgosh, i really hate the cc-by-nc-nd licenseMay 18 08:49
scientesits kinda like a "I understa....FUCK YOU" licenseMay 18 08:49
scientesAm I the only one that feels that way?May 18 08:50
*jono has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)May 18 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Even The Copyright Office Won't Obey Rules That Don't Make Sense In Reality http://goo.gl/KDn4rMay 18 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #PeterBright #troll thing could be a good discussion topic for the next #Crivins now that I think about itMay 18 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It might be because you replied to my status which was tagged privacy, or if you post from the privacy page would do it too.May 18 08:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzaf !identiverseMay 18 08:57
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schestowitz[08:57] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #PeterBright #troll thing could be a good discussion topic for the next #Crivins now that I think about itMay 18 08:58
schestowitz^ DrPizzaMay 18 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Open Standards Consultation Nearing Close - http://bit.ly/KHc81K important: please read and actMay 18 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] thanksMay 18 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] could beMay 18 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Even The #Copyright Office Won't Obey Rules That Don't Make Sense In Reality - http://bit.ly/Ky8N6i good point, nicely madeMay 18 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK government staff caught snooping on citizen data - http://zd.net/Kkr29C why we cannot trust them with centralised databases #privacyMay 18 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Transparent Hypocrisy of Ethical Oil – who is really laundering money - http://bit.ly/KWyuf6 great pieceMay 18 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] On 3rd gov workshop on privacy and net neutrality, business obviously present; NGOs too.May 18 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UK government staff caught snooping on citizen data | ZDNet .::. Size~: 120.69 KBMay 18 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Transparent Hypocrisy of Ethical Oil – who is really laundering money | eaves.ca .::. Size~: 48.85 KBMay 18 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Indian court orders Pirate Bay, Pastebin blocks, Supreme Court gets DDoSed - http://bit.ly/KeFDFQ bad stuff happening #indiaMay 18 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BitTorrent Piracy Boosts Music Sales, Study Finds - http://bit.ly/JBr8OX why recording industry should stop fighting sharing #copyrightMay 18 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #Lubuntu http://lubuntu.net/ a less alienating future OS for the #Windows #XP Faithful then #Microsoft #Windows8 !ubuntu @canonicalMay 18 09:31
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schestowitzhi DaemonFCMay 18 09:34
schestowitz"That title sounds kinda extreme" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1621447May 18 09:34
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?May 18 09:34
schestowitz"It's not a poem. It's an #epic." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1621591May 18 09:34
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?May 18 09:34
DaemonFCmaybeMay 18 09:34
DaemonFCthe point is that it's the most invasive it's ever beenMay 18 09:34
schestowitz"Very interesting indeed."May 18 09:35
DaemonFCThere's a bug in Fedora 17 that can kill your hard disk (over time)May 18 09:35
DaemonFCI'm booting into Ubuntu until they fix itMay 18 09:35
schestowitzwhat bug?May 18 09:35
DaemonFCit unloads the hard disk heads every 3 minutesMay 18 09:36
schestowitzso?May 18 09:36
schestowitzkernel bug?May 18 09:36
DaemonFCyeah, that's what I'm thinkingMay 18 09:36
DaemonFCthat kind of aggressive power saving will probably kill an average hard disk within a year or twoMay 18 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jak #TPSA zablokowała stronę GIMPa... "Wszystkich 5 użytkowników było oburzonych" (rep. TPSA) #WarsztatyMAIC !linux !polska !fsMay 18 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice 3.5.4 Release Candidate 1 available: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ !libo !tdf #libreofficeMay 18 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Mobile money misery http://goo.gl/xHrbvMay 18 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Vandaag ga ik "Kie L'olam Hasdo" mijn interpretatie van Psalm 138 (opgenomen in 1982) op mijn Muziek website publiceren #disco #ivrietMay 18 09:37
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DaemonFChdparm can override it but it's not persistent May 18 09:38
DaemonFCa work around would be to run hdparm every boot cycle to disable itMay 18 09:38
schestowitzI think Ubuntu around 2007 had a similar issueMay 18 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anti-intellectualism is taking over the US http://goo.gl/tz2yyMay 18 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The #NDAA's section 1021 coup d'etat foiled http://goo.gl/HIzVKMay 18 09:44
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I decided to keep one of my credit cards openMay 18 09:45
DaemonFCone with 1.25% cash backMay 18 09:45
DaemonFCI can pay all my monthly bills on it, apply the cash back, then pay whatever is left immediately with no interestMay 18 09:45
DaemonFCthey'll end up paying me a little over $100 a year to use their card :)May 18 09:46
schestowitzyou realise this is silly, right?May 18 09:46
DaemonFChow so?May 18 09:46
schestowitzSince all the production moves to the East we live on credit cardsMay 18 09:46
schestowitzand it's borrowing from the futureMay 18 09:46
schestowitza silly idea that suits in their 60s had going for the past 30 years or soMay 18 09:47
schestowitzselling out future so they can have their luxuriesMay 18 09:47
DaemonFCit's not really borrowing if you immediately pay it back with no interest, minus the cash back they give youMay 18 09:47
schestowitzI had a chat about this with a friend yesterday at a restaurantMay 18 09:47
DaemonFCthey end up paying you a small amount of money each month to use their cardMay 18 09:47
schestowitzand he reckons it'll all collapse and those with debt will lose everythingMay 18 09:47
DaemonFCso what's the problem with that?May 18 09:47
scientesschestowitz, also the credit card comanies skim like 3%May 18 09:48
schestowitzthey'll claims that since you cannot pay back they can repossess all your stuff -> feudalismMay 18 09:48
scientesor some similarly egregious amountMay 18 09:48
schestowitzIf you have no debt, you get to at least keep what you haveMay 18 09:48
DaemonFCit's not like I'm going to stop buying groceries or gasoline or utility billsMay 18 09:48
schestowitzand cannot be forced to do hard work for those in powerMay 18 09:48
schestowitzeconomic meltdown doesn't affect the rich, they can just relocate to whatever is safMay 18 09:48
scientesschestowitz, jubileeMay 18 09:48
schestowitz*safeMay 18 09:49
scientesits inevitable, so lets stave off the worst and make it officialMay 18 09:49
schestowitzscientes: yeahMay 18 09:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: you can buy those basic commodities without a credit cardMay 18 09:49
schestowitztake food stamps if you need toMay 18 09:49
scientesDaemonFC, you will stop buying gasoline when their is no gasoline to guy....May 18 09:49
DaemonFCright, but then you don't get the cash rewardsMay 18 09:49
scientesDaemonFC, save your privacy toooo....May 18 09:49
DaemonFCthey fund that out of the people who have a balance with an obscene interest rate month by monthMay 18 09:49
schestowitzhow so?May 18 09:49
scienteshttp://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/May 18 09:50
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schestowitzare the cards compromising privacy if you use them in tandem with ATM?May 18 09:50
schestowitz(cash in hand)May 18 09:50
scientesDaemonFC, they actually don't they steal it from the merchantMay 18 09:50
schestowitzyesterday I put some credit on a phone and paid with cash as usual, I am not giving away identityMay 18 09:50
DaemonFCschestowitz, Say I have $500 in groceries, gasoline, utility bills, etc. that I pay anyway each monthMay 18 09:50
scientesby changing them a percentage cut, which somehow is legal...May 18 09:50
scientesit should by law, be an after-fee, taged onMay 18 09:50
DaemonFCWhat's wrong with putting those on a cash back card and paying $493 instead?May 18 09:51
DaemonFCyou end up ahead so long as you only spend money you have and pay it back right awayMay 18 09:51
scientesDaemonFC, you realize they are charging the mercent like 3%May 18 09:51
schestowitzwhat about the TV you bought with money you don't haveMay 18 09:51
scientesand they also charge the merchants with chargebacksMay 18 09:52
DaemonFCin that situation, I'd end up with like $84 a year in cash back just from unavoidable billsMay 18 09:52
scientesthey also rob countried of their soverignityMay 18 09:52
DaemonFCscientes, Debit cards charge merchants, but do credit cards?May 18 09:52
scientesit was a huge thing when Russia passed a law saying VISA (bank of americard) couldnMay 18 09:52
DaemonFCyou'd think having customers paying them back at 20-35% APR would be enough profit for the credit card peopleMay 18 09:52
scientescouldn't send records of domestic transactions out of the country, to the USAMay 18 09:53
schestowitzSWIFTMay 18 09:53
scientesand the US of Bank of America, got involved and pissed about this russia lawMay 18 09:53
schestowitzEurope has this tooMay 18 09:53
schestowitzthe debate anywayMay 18 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Po rzuceniu, że jest "całych 5 użytkowników GIMPa", #TPSA obrusza się na słowo "Tepsa", żądając "szacunku". Wesoło! #WarsztatyMAiCMay 18 09:54
schestowitzthe natwest debit cards here (inc. mine) go through visa nowMay 18 09:54
schestowitzAmerican man-in-the-middleMay 18 09:55
schestowitzit used to be Switch/DeltaMay 18 09:55
DaemonFCI was under the impression that banks issuing cash rewards cards do it because they know most people will end up carrying a balance at an APR that totally eclipses the rewards payoutsMay 18 09:55
DaemonFCand that even if they get an occasional customer that does what I described, they plan on it and figure it will happen sometimesMay 18 09:55
schestowitzthere's a progra,m I found out yesterday called IOUMay 18 09:56
schestowitzWhere the cellphone companies let you go into overdraftMay 18 09:56
schestowitzand they risk the customer not paying backMay 18 09:56
schestowitzso they put a charge feeMay 18 09:56
schestowitzpenaltyMay 18 09:56
schestowitzas a sort of insuranceMay 18 09:56
schestowitzfor those who exploit it and never pay backMay 18 09:56
DaemonFCif they have 99 typical customers paying THEM between $1-a few hundred dollars in interest per monthMay 18 09:56
schestowitzand their phones get bricked in some sense, I guessMay 18 09:56
DaemonFCand then I come along and end up costing them $6May 18 09:57
DaemonFCthen they still come out way aheadMay 18 09:57
DaemonFCit's worth baiting the occasional customer that comes out slightly ahead to get the 99 others that can't control their spending and end up with a balanceMay 18 09:57
schestowitznegative blanaceMay 18 09:57
DaemonFCI plan to let the rewards account pile up and then cash it out at the end of this yearMay 18 09:58
DaemonFCthrow it in the moving fundMay 18 09:58
DaemonFCevery bit helpsMay 18 09:58
DaemonFChttp://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-25/news/30661932_1_credit-card-charge-card-rewardsMay 18 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Think About It: Why Would The Credit Card Company Give You Cash Back? - Business Insider .::. Size~: 33.67 KBMay 18 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Chciałbym zobaczyć logo #GIMP'a w reklamie #Play w kontekście zlej #TePsy." !q @kichawa !fsMay 18 10:09
DaemonFCI stopped using cash for things years agoMay 18 10:10
DaemonFCit had become a monthly ritual of accumulating a bunch of change in a jar and then taking it down to the bank to have it counted and put back in my accountMay 18 10:11
DaemonFCthat's not a problem with a debit cardMay 18 10:11
DaemonFCand my debit card has fraud protectionMay 18 10:11
DaemonFCif I get cash stolen then it's jsut goneMay 18 10:11
schestowitzDaemonFC: just checked my Nectar card balanceMay 18 10:13
schestowitzmpw they publish detailed statement for thoseMay 18 10:13
schestowitzit gives 1% cashbackMay 18 10:13
schestowitzbut you lose your privacy due to itMay 18 10:14
DaemonFCyeah, I got my cards down to 0 this monthMay 18 10:14
DaemonFCthen I called and froze all but one of themMay 18 10:14
DaemonFCthen I cut up those cardsMay 18 10:14
schestowitzI guess I could forge my name on the Nectar card, but it would be spotted for anomalies if used in conjuction with my credit cardMay 18 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Years ago Polish ISP #TPSA/#Orange blocked #GIMP's website. Today they said: "all 5 GIMP users were outraged" More info to come !fs !linuxMay 18 10:14
DaemonFCfreezing them keeps the account technically open so you don't take a credit rating hit that you would if you closed the accountMay 18 10:14
schestowitzheh. credit rATINGMay 18 10:15
schestowitzPEOPLE (oops caps)May 18 10:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, I just got my car insurance bill today, so I put it on my cash back cardMay 18 10:15
schestowitzpeople bragging about being able to BORROW moneyMay 18 10:15
schestowitzOf owning money to others..May 18 10:15
DaemonFCmy car insurance is pretty cheap, only $30May 18 10:15
schestowitzyearly?May 18 10:15
schestowitzmonthlyMay 18 10:15
schestowitzfor sure..May 18 10:15
DaemonFCbut it gives me a chance to take out one of next month's bills out of this month's budgetMay 18 10:15
DaemonFCmonthlyMay 18 10:15
schestowitz$1 a daYMay 18 10:16
schestowitzuse the bikeMay 18 10:16
schestowitzburn fatMay 18 10:16
schestowitzburn YuleMay 18 10:16
DaemonFCso I just put it on my credit card, cashed out the rewards, paid them back $29.62May 18 10:16
DaemonFChey, 38 cents is 38 centsMay 18 10:16
DaemonFC:)May 18 10:16
DaemonFCschestowitz, You should have seen what I was paying for state minimum 10 years agoMay 18 10:17
DaemonFC$95 a month!May 18 10:17
DaemonFCmy driving record is cleanMay 18 10:17
DaemonFCno accidents, no traffic ticketsMay 18 10:17
DaemonFCI've gotten olderMay 18 10:18
DaemonFCso it's down to about a third of where it wasMay 18 10:18
DaemonFCI saw one of Dawn's car insurance billsMay 18 10:19
DaemonFCtwo DUIs and some speeding tickets later and they want $198 a month from herMay 18 10:19
schestowitzit was hiked up, wasn't it?May 18 10:19
DaemonFCoh yeahMay 18 10:19
schestowitzI guess she also ticked the "BJ while driving" boxMay 18 10:19
DaemonFCshe probably would have had more DUIs if some of the cops didn't take blow jobs in lieu of writing citationsMay 18 10:20
DaemonFCthat's just idle speculation thoughMay 18 10:20
DaemonFCB-)May 18 10:20
schestowitzdouble ticketsMay 18 10:20
schestowitzfirst a hit for getting caughtMay 18 10:20
schestowitzthen insuranceMay 18 10:20
schestowitzgood thing I never got any ticket...May 18 10:21
DaemonFCfirst DUI offense is mandatory 180 day license suspensionMay 18 10:21
schestowitz(nor was involved in any accident)May 18 10:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: I drive under the influence on coffeeMay 18 10:21
DaemonFCso it's common to see someone with a misdemeanor driving while suspended and driving without insurance within 6 months of their first DUIMay 18 10:21
schestowitzsome people text while drivingMay 18 10:21
schestowitzwhich is worse than alcoholMay 18 10:21
DaemonFCand possibly another DUI at the same time as wellMay 18 10:21
schestowitzSometimes those people are driving with me in the carMay 18 10:21
schestowitzit's outrageousMay 18 10:22
schestowitzyesterday I saw a kid speaking on the phone while riding the bikeMay 18 10:22
schestowitzsome people text while ridingMay 18 10:22
schestowitzor speak/text while crossing the roadMay 18 10:22
DaemonFCschestowitz, I have a bluetooth thingMay 18 10:22
schestowitzunder the influence of phoneMay 18 10:22
DaemonFCI use that if I'm driving or riding my bicycle May 18 10:22
schestowitzit's still a distractionMay 18 10:23
schestowitzradio can be, tooMay 18 10:23
schestowitzI used to play loud rap while drivingMay 18 10:23
DaemonFCyeah, but at least you keep your eyes on the road and hands on the steering wheelMay 18 10:23
DaemonFCso it's less bad than holding the phone while drivingMay 18 10:23
schestowitzand it would eliminate noise from the outside, like honkingMay 18 10:23
DaemonFCschestowitz, I try not to drive when I can easily avoid itMay 18 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Marti Van Lin's Kee L'olam Hasdo (Psalm 136 - 1982 recording) released http://is.gd/cFLU8c #disco #judaism #hebrew #israel #freemusicMay 18 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Czy #GIMP.org jest w tej chwili dostępny z sieci #TPSA/#Orange? !polskaMay 18 10:24
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DaemonFCif I need a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread I'll walk or bike to the storeMay 18 10:24
schestowitzbut you still pay insuranceMay 18 10:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: do you live close to work?May 18 10:24
DaemonFCyeah, there's no such thing as only paying insurance on the days you drive the carMay 18 10:24
DaemonFCthough that would be niceMay 18 10:25
DaemonFCget my rate down to like $5May 18 10:25
DaemonFCschestowitz, the only thing I have to do as far as that goes is trips to the post officeMay 18 10:25
DaemonFCI usually just walk thatMay 18 10:25
DaemonFCit's only a half mile walk each wayMay 18 10:26
DaemonFCit's not brutalMay 18 10:26
schestowitzlive closer thenMay 18 10:26
schestowitzleave dawn, tooMay 18 10:26
schestowitzshe's a health hazardMay 18 10:26
scientesI dont have a carMay 18 10:26
*scientes is the better for itMay 18 10:26
DaemonFCI do love the post officeMay 18 10:26
schestowitzscientes: you can get some old one for 1 thousand dollarsMay 18 10:27
DaemonFCI know that sounds twisted, but their flat rate shipping boxes have saved me a small fortuneMay 18 10:27
schestowitzand then see the bills piling up (insurance, garage,. gas..)May 18 10:27
scientesschestowitz, everything about cars is way too expensiveMay 18 10:27
scientesincluding their effect on societyMay 18 10:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] in case you don't know, Pig and the Box is a fabulous (pun intended :-) book for children about the evils of DRMMay 18 10:27
schestowitzsometimes they're a status symbolMay 18 10:27
scientesjust think about how hard it would be to personally maintain a single block of asphaultMay 18 10:27
DaemonFCI usually end up using the $5 box and if you go by weight i'd normally end up paying something like $6-7 each time I mailed somethingMay 18 10:27
DaemonFCI really hope the Republicans don't manage to kill off the post officeMay 18 10:28
scientesDaemonFC, they are trying their bestMay 18 10:28
DaemonFCFedEx or UPS or DHL would eat me aliveMay 18 10:28
scientesDaemonFC, http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2011/9/28/bogus_postal_service_crisis_deserves_to_get_a_return_to_senderMay 18 10:28
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scienteshttp://nader.org/2012/05/11/consumer-advocate-ralph-nader-identifies-new-postal-service-plan-as-bait-and-switch-is-the-equivalent-of-closing-5567-post-offices/May 18 10:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Consumer Advocate Ralph Nader Identifies New Postal Service Plan as Bait and Switch: Is the Equivalent of Closing 5,567 Post Offices | The Nader Page .::. Size~: 12.22 KBMay 18 10:28
DaemonFCscientes, They claim to want to do good things for small businessesMay 18 10:29
DaemonFCbut shutting down the post office and leaving you to deal with privatized couriers would eat into your profitMay 18 10:29
DaemonFCand make many small businesses that have to ship lots of things unprofitable May 18 10:29
scienteshttp://www.democracynow.org/2011/9/27/shock_doctrine_at_us_postal_service DaemonFC May 18 10:30
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DaemonFCthe difference in just a dollar or two in shipping per item could mean the difference between making a profit and having a loss and not being able to continue your businessMay 18 10:30
scientesDaemonFC, its not about costMay 18 10:31
DaemonFCif they succeed in killing the post office, they will also succeed in shutting down many small businesses that were making just enough margin to continue operating as it wasMay 18 10:31
scientesits about the post office purposefully trying to loose money to justify shutting it downMay 18 10:31
DaemonFCand they will do serious damage to the US economyMay 18 10:31
scientesI was personally at a state senate the day they were writing to the fed's and their asshole attacks on the POMay 18 10:32
DaemonFCscientes, The thing that will kill it will be this insane requirement to prefund health insurance and retirement for the next 75 yearsMay 18 10:32
scientesthe Grand Old Post OfficeMay 18 10:32
scientes;)May 18 10:32
DaemonFCthat includes employees that have not even been born yetMay 18 10:32
DaemonFCno private company does thisMay 18 10:32
scientesDaemonFC, its just another way of ripping ppl offMay 18 10:33
DaemonFCmost private companies treat retirement and health insurance as pay as you goMay 18 10:33
scientesthey know that all retirement benifits are broken, and its just forcing the PO to subsidize the banks, and ENRON, etcMay 18 10:33
DaemonFCthe post office should not be required to prefund for more than five years, in my opinionMay 18 10:33
DaemonFCyeah , 75 years is beyond insaneMay 18 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] it's ironic that MCM turned away from PDF with side-by-side pages to a technical abomination that shows only one page at a time :-(May 18 10:34
DaemonFCthere's nothing they can invest that money in that will even make up for 75 years worth of inflationMay 18 10:34
DaemonFCat least not without a really high chance of losing everythingMay 18 10:35
scientesthey just want to shut down any and all efficient government programsMay 18 10:36
DaemonFCthe only way they could be expected to know how to invest in a fund that has to go out 75 years into the future is to know exactly what the stock markets and banks will do for the next 75 yearsMay 18 10:36
scienteslike MedicareMay 18 10:36
scientesthey would do anything to kill MedicareMay 18 10:36
DaemonFCMedicare is not allowed to be efficientMay 18 10:36
DaemonFCthe Part D plan is eating it aliveMay 18 10:36
scientesit has a 1% overheadMay 18 10:36
DaemonFCthey are paying 2-3 times what the Veterans Administration does for prescription medicinesMay 18 10:36
scientesits more efficient than any fortune 500 companyMay 18 10:36
DaemonFCPart D was written by the Republicans to bankrupt MedicareMay 18 10:37
scientesDaemonFC, Part D was made to...exactlyMay 18 10:37
DaemonFCif Medicare was paying what the VA is for prescriptions, it would be solvent for decadesMay 18 10:37
scientesas I said, they would do ANYTHING to kill MedicareMay 18 10:37
scientesschestowitz, hows your National Health Service?May 18 10:37
DaemonFCscientes, I have decent health insurance right now but I still refuse to take any patented medication where a similar generic existsMay 18 10:38
DaemonFCI told my last doctor that if he was going to insist that I take patented medication that I would have to insist on finding a new doctorMay 18 10:38
DaemonFCand I did :)May 18 10:38
scientesDaemonFC, what are you taking any pharmaceuticals anyways? (you don't have to answer)May 18 10:39
scientesThe only pharmaceutical I take is ibuprofenMay 18 10:39
DaemonFCif I did answer it would be logged by schestowitz's bot and up for grabs by scumbagsMay 18 10:39
scientesindeedMay 18 10:39
DaemonFCit's not many medications though, the generics come up to less than $40 without my insuranceMay 18 10:39
DaemonFCand about $10 a month with my insuranceMay 18 10:39
DaemonFCscientes, One of them that costs me $2 a month with my insurance (would only be $4 without) has a newer patented versionMay 18 10:40
DaemonFCthe new patented version is one you take once a day and the old generic one that I take is twice a day, only differenceMay 18 10:41
DaemonFCwithout insurance, the patented newer one is $296 a monthMay 18 10:41
DaemonFCit's just a newer version of the same drugMay 18 10:41
DaemonFCI think Medicare should have a policy that it will not pay for brand name drugs that have a comparable genericMay 18 10:42
DaemonFCeverMay 18 10:42
DaemonFCthat would fix most of what's wrong with Part D right thereMay 18 10:42
DaemonFCscientes, There are entire classes of drugs that have many good effective generics available that are every bit as effective as the newer onesMay 18 10:43
DaemonFCstatins, blood pressure medication, pain killers, antidepressants.....May 18 10:43
scientesthere are also whole classes of herbals that arn't pushed cause they can't be patented at allMay 18 10:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "Queen to meet with despot" headline - for a second there I thought it was a meeting with #Cameron #Politics #TorysMay 18 10:44
DaemonFCthey fight like hell to keep their patents renewed and if they lose one they make a minor reformulation, get a new patent, and stop promoting the one they lost the patent onMay 18 10:44
schestowitzscientes: NHS is OKMay 18 10:45
DaemonFCscientes, You never hear about Prozac now because theres about half a dozen companies that make generic versions that run $3-4 a monthMay 18 10:45
schestowitzI was just filling some related forms last nightMay 18 10:45
DaemonFCEli Lilly went on to market Cymbalta to keep their obscene profits goingMay 18 10:45
DaemonFCMedicare Part D is a tax devouring engine of corporate welfareMay 18 10:46
schestowitzPlacebo Max StrengthMay 18 10:46
schestowitzHomoeopathic overdose!!May 18 10:46
schestowitzfull voidMay 18 10:47
schestowitzlarge infinityMay 18 10:47
DaemonFCschestowitz, I found a coupon for $4 off a bottle of "homeopathic eye drops"May 18 10:47
schestowitzI got them tooMay 18 10:47
schestowitzI switch off the tapMay 18 10:47
DaemonFCI ended up using it too because it made that particular bottle of eye drops like $1 whereas the artificial tears are like $2-3May 18 10:47
schestowitzI get them in two flavoursMay 18 10:47
schestowitzhot and coldMay 18 10:47
DaemonFCbut I know that there's no difference and the homeopathic ones are just artificial tears with some non-existent "active ingredient"May 18 10:48
schestowitzthe active ingredient is "absent thereof" :-)May 18 10:48
schestowitz*absenceMay 18 10:48
DaemonFCschestowitz, they work just as well as the artificial tears do because they are really the same thingMay 18 10:48
DaemonFCbut they normally cost about 3 times as much because of the fictional active ingredient May 18 10:49
DaemonFCI never would have bought it without the couponMay 18 10:49
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Sometimes coupons give you a one time incentive to go with something that's normally more expensive because they make the price lower than what you'd normally buyMay 18 10:50
DaemonFCwhich is the whole pointMay 18 10:50
DaemonFCbut that's the only time I ever actually change my buying habitsMay 18 10:50
DaemonFCI stack up coupons in the order in which they expireMay 18 10:51
DaemonFCthen before I need something, I go through the stack to see if I have a coupon for that itemMay 18 10:52
DaemonFCI never go buy something I wouldn't normally buy just because I have the couponMay 18 10:52
DaemonFCbut they do save me a few dollars a month on things I'd get anywayMay 18 10:52
DaemonFCschestowitz, I think I'm all the better for having been in that credit card mess I just got out ofMay 18 10:53
DaemonFCit forced me to go through my expenses line by line and cut out some excesses that I probably would never have looked intoMay 18 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US Commerce Department imposes tariffs on Chinese solar panel makers http://goo.gl/Fd17U the world subsidises US consumers gadgetsMay 18 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I thought the US govt & corporates were in favour of a free market ;) not tarriffs & subsidies - unless it's pushed in their favourMay 18 10:54
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DaemonFCSaturday, Sunday, and Monday are going to have a heat wave pass over the town I live inMay 18 11:02
DaemonFCbetter get the air conditioners installed May 18 11:03
*DaemonFC usually leaves the fans going in the windows until around 7 AM and then takes them out and waits until 1-2 PM to kick the air conditioner onMay 18 11:03
DaemonFCI noticed that made a pretty big dent in the electric bill when I started doing that last summerMay 18 11:03
DaemonFCschestowitz, I went through and updated a lot of my stuff over the past year, that's where a lot of the credit card balance came fromMay 18 11:05
DaemonFCbut I noticed that my electric bill went down quite a lot because in a lot of cases we were talking about replacing old TVs and computer monitors and so on with newer Energy Star rated modelsMay 18 11:05
DaemonFCif that results in a permanent electric bill reduction then I'll eventually at least break even with the interest I paid for a few months where I ran a balanceMay 18 11:06
schestowitzyeah, coupons are a marketing trick.. leading to more salesMay 18 11:06
schestowitzit pays off for something, and it's not the receiverMay 18 11:06
DaemonFCschestowitz, like body wash, they put in coupons for like $1 off a bottle of body washMay 18 11:07
DaemonFCit may be different body wash that I buy every month but I'm not pickyMay 18 11:07
DaemonFCI use different shaving razors all the time because of couponsMay 18 11:08
DaemonFCone month they only had decent coupons for "women's" shaving razors but the only difference I could see was that the handles were pink and they were otherwise identical to "men's" triple blade razors from the same companyMay 18 11:08
scientescupons are about changing ppl that dont have alot of time more moneyMay 18 11:08
DaemonFCif you're not real picky about what you buy then you can save a considerable stack of money doing things like thatMay 18 11:09
scientesalso they are about building "loyalty" and invading privacyMay 18 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leticia; what a name - halfway between a salad & a sneeze #TerryPratchett #DiscworldMay 18 11:09
DaemonFCI think brand loyalty is highly overratedMay 18 11:09
scientes<schestowitz> Placebo Max StrengthMay 18 11:09
scientes<schestowitz> Homoeopathic overdose!!May 18 11:09
scientes<schestowitz> full voidMay 18 11:09
scientes<schestowitz> large infinityMay 18 11:09
DaemonFCif the soap gets me clean and smells good, I'm happyMay 18 11:09
scienteslolMay 18 11:09
DaemonFCif the shaving razor gives me a good shave and doesn't gouge my face, I don't care what brand it isMay 18 11:10
scientesDaemonFC, you need the real soap, stuff like ivoryMay 18 11:10
*scientes is allergic to the petroleum-based synthetic fragrancesMay 18 11:10
DaemonFCoh, over the last few months I alternated between Zest, Irish Spring, and Gilette body washes because it was different coupons in the paper each monthMay 18 11:11
oiaohmscientes: that sounds as bad as me and being allergic to roses.May 18 11:11
scientesDaemonFC, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freebie_marketingMay 18 11:11
DaemonFCthey all do a pretty good job, they all smell OKMay 18 11:11
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scientesoiaohm, if i use the wrong shampoo i get a huge rash on my chestMay 18 11:11
oiaohmscientes: yes all the items they sneek rose oil into.May 18 11:11
DaemonFCscientes, The original Irish Spring makes me break out in hivesMay 18 11:12
DaemonFCbut the Icy Blast version doesn'tMay 18 11:12
scientesDaemonFC, yeah you have the same thing perhapsMay 18 11:12
oiaohmscientes: mine nicer in some ways. I get what looks like a nice sun tan.May 18 11:12
scientesjust get the unscented stuff, like IvoryMay 18 11:12
oiaohmscientes: but I do need drugs so I will keep breathing.May 18 11:12
DaemonFCscientes, I called the company's 800 number and complained about it so they sent me out various coupons for free products of theirs as "compensation"May 18 11:12
scientesor the "natural" soap stuff--although honestly that sodium laureth sulphate and petrol-based fats are fine....May 18 11:13
DaemonFCif you have a bad experience with that kind of stuff they'll do something to make you shut up and try other stuff of theirs insteadMay 18 11:13
DaemonFCusuallyMay 18 11:13
oiaohmscientes: even better the tan stays affer i get better.May 18 11:13
DaemonFCso I had to throw out $3 worth of soap but got $20 worth of their other stuff insteadMay 18 11:13
oiaohmscientes: so rose oil equals nice fake tan and a bit of temp illness.May 18 11:13
DaemonFCOK, I'm placated :)May 18 11:13
scientesDaemonFC, of you could pawn off the defective product on someone else, as is the usual practice...May 18 11:14
DaemonFCscientes, Back when I was a teenager I had oily skin and acne and all that other fun stuffMay 18 11:14
DaemonFCI ended up going for years bathing in dial antibacterial hand soap to keep that under controlMay 18 11:15
DaemonFC:)May 18 11:15
scienteseeekkkkMay 18 11:15
scientesantibacterial stuff is grossssssMay 18 11:15
scientesif you want to kill bacteria use something alcohol basedMay 18 11:15
DaemonFCyeah, I just save that for my hands nowMay 18 11:15
DaemonFCI don't bath in antibacterial soap anymoreMay 18 11:15
scientes*alcohol based*May 18 11:15
scientes*alcohol based*May 18 11:15
scientes*alcohol based*May 18 11:15
DaemonFCyou have to watch out for Triclosan in toothpaste now tooMay 18 11:16
DaemonFCsome of them are advertising it as an anti-gingivitis agentMay 18 11:16
DaemonFCwhich may or may not be the case, but if you're practicing proper oral hygiene then gingivitis shouldn't be a problem in the first placeMay 18 11:16
DaemonFCa lot of this "antibacterial" craze is exploiting peoples fears to get them to pay more money for something that fixes a problem they don't haveMay 18 11:17
oiaohmscientes: there is always old pine tar.May 18 11:18
oiaohmscientes: kills most bacteriaMay 18 11:19
DaemonFCyeah, pine oilMay 18 11:19
DaemonFCI mop my floors with thatMay 18 11:19
DaemonFCincredibly cheapMay 18 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apache !OpenOffice - [of course?]Windows Users Dominate Downloads - InternetNews http://goo.gl/uctvBMay 18 11:19
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scientesoiaohm, or cedarMay 18 11:19
oiaohmThere are some old soap mixes that use pine or cedar tar for the antibacterialMay 18 11:20
oiaohmWe just got fancy in recent years and started using alcohol.May 18 11:20
DaemonFCthere's a big scare in the news media now about teenagers figuring out how to separate the alcohol out of the hand sanitizer gel and mixing it up with fruit juice to make a cocktailMay 18 11:22
DaemonFCI think that's funnyMay 18 11:22
DaemonFCtwo shots worth of alcohol and some of these wusses end up going to the ERMay 18 11:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Nonfree DRM'd Games on GNU/Linux: Good or Bad? http://goo.gl/lPV3P !fs relatedMay 18 11:22
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DaemonFCtwo or three ounces of alcohol is, the start of a decent buzzMay 18 11:23
DaemonFCnot a medical emergencyMay 18 11:23
DaemonFCmind you that's ethanol, not methanolMay 18 11:23
DaemonFCmethanol is of course, poisonousMay 18 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @gnutek: #Kernel 3.4.0-rc7 .deb available at #FSFLA and #FSCorsica.org Free your Debian with #LinuxLibre + recipe updated at #LibrePlanetMay 18 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Ben alvast aan het koken, uitjes met 3 paprika's en champignons. Ruikt zo heerlijk! voor Shoarma special met friet en griekse saladeMay 18 11:37
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/93786608 http://identi.ca/notice/93786552May 18 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Friday, 18-May-12 09:01:37 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz a perfect story to start a day in which I'm going to a public school to tell and share “The Pig and The Box” by MCMMay 18 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr@Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Friday, 18-May-12 09:00:01 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz DRM is what all of law would look like if corporate power went totally unchecked.  http://ur1.ca/99gnoMay 18 11:51
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schestowitzcovering for an ill colleague todayMay 18 11:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Might just try it this weekend ! http://ur1.ca/175rh http://ur1.ca/175rhMay 18 11:54
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schestowitzCollision detection is harder than I imagined... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collision_detectionMay 18 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Well, well... ♻ @kyrah404: #Microsoft changes #skype supernodes architecture to support wiretapping http://t.co/sU4Ou4Nq (via @hellais)May 18 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Nu vă putem citi documentele! http://ur1.ca/99hr3 #romania #egovt #odf #libreoffice #openofficeMay 18 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The #TPSA/#Orange/#GIMP "all 5 users" story: http://rys.io/en/74 !linux !fs !gnuMay 18 12:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #GIMP i #TPSA/#Orange - czyli rzecz o "5-ciu użytkownikach" http://rys.io/pl/74 !polska !fwiooMay 18 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Operation #Gladio [BBC Timewatch, 1992] State-Sponsored Terrorism in Europe - YouTube http://goo.gl/jhgVk #nato #stateterrorismMay 18 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “Unsere Freiheit im Netz verteidigen” - http://bit.ly/JXlLta oh yesMay 18 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] exactlyMay 18 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Poland Betrays Its Past, Moves Closer To Allowing Software Patents - http://bit.ly/M0xB4Y come on, #Poland, you can do better than thisMay 18 13:32
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schestowitzLOL patent applications on this.. http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080272958May 18 13:35
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DaemonFCI keep everything private or Friends Only and limit the apps I allowMay 18 13:43
DaemonFCbut I suppose Facebook might be willing to sell "information bundles" on people who have those settings if and when enough people do thatMay 18 13:44
DaemonFCI suppose until then, if anyone asks, just say you don't have a Facebook accountMay 18 13:45
DaemonFCit shouldn't be publicly viewable if you have everything set to private or friends onlyMay 18 13:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Space Hijackers create Official Protesters programme for the #London2012 Olympics - http://bit.ly/LdJj9n let's hope they go for gold...May 18 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regele Mihai la Jubileul Reginei Elisabeta a II-a http://ur1.ca/99i1z #romania #uk #monarchy #royalMay 18 13:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Soon, my net presence will will subject to a short hiatus, about 2 to three days; electrical maintenance, otherwise known as rewiringMay 18 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm sure the break will do you good :)May 18 14:01
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oiaohmschestowitz: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/MK802-micro-PC-runs-Android-4-0-and-Linux-for-74-1578994.html  Hmm a few generations at the 100 dollar range and it could be quite decent.May 18 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: .@presroi YES, @EU_Commission is thinking of this type of exercise. is written in the #I http://p.ost.im/p/eGrUVeMay 18 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] ownCloud clients for Linux and Android are available !https://owncloud.com/download http://ur1.ca/8wm9xMay 18 14:14
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DaemonFCRichard Stallman gave a nod to DuckDuckGoMay 18 14:19
DaemonFCI have a problem with ixquick and startpageMay 18 14:21
DaemonFCthey cause your browser to connect to bing.com to do an image searchMay 18 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Banned #TED Talk: #NickHanauer "Rich people don't create jobs" - YouTube http://goo.gl/57ORfMay 18 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Kevin Marks http://ur1.ca/99i83May 18 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] voted for "disagree"May 18 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] So, you fell asleep at 7:30PM?May 18 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @climagic steghide embed -ef secret.txt -cf dog.jpg -sf dog-new.jpg -pflotilla # Hide secret.txt inside image dog.jpg using steganogr ...May 18 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Are they reloading the toilet-paper robot?May 18 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #NDAA under attack in Congress? - YouTube http://goo.gl/4WDfcMay 18 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] voted for "disagree"May 18 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The question IS hypothetical RIGHT? Replacing !libreoffice with !openoffice at this stage would be madnessMay 18 14:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Who agreed anyway? The agreeing voter is not showing up in my !identicurse threadMay 18 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Thank you, Postbank. Switching from Maestro to VPay means no cash withdrawal possible in Dubai.May 18 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #RonPaul: Taking over GOP delegates - YouTube http://goo.gl/XI1T8 go...go...go!May 18 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The House to overturn indefinite detention of Americans? - YouTube http://goo.gl/VINrD #ndaaMay 18 14:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I love the idea of browser-based development.May 18 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Seeing ads on #Wikipedia? Then you're infected • The Register http://goo.gl/ZV65w #securityMay 18 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan "electric imp" http://electricimp.com/ This looks awesome. #devices #hackeryMay 18 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] If you Want Peace, Prepare for Peace. If you Want War, Prepare for War. The #NDAA Prepares for War. - YouTube http://goo.gl/SRuOF #kucinichMay 18 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Inside Nvidia's GK110 monster GPU • The Register http://goo.gl/4BDdV #supercomputers #hardwareMay 18 14:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice Creative Commons "About" video - http://ur1.ca/99idg (Good to see Red Hat mentioned as well) #fbMay 18 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] OpenFlow Protocol 1.3.0 Approved http://ur1.ca/99ie0 #network #internet #computerMay 18 15:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think it might have something to do with switching language contexts when we send email notifications; very strange though.May 18 15:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mandriva Linux to "return to the community" http://ur1.ca/99ieqMay 18 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] I am sure whoever OKed the roll out of sharepoint for the SG Government would not want to read this: http://ur1.ca/99igi #fb #inMay 18 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Government reneges on #opensource promise for Cloudstore 2.0 - http://bit.ly/JS6PLe hmm, not goodMay 18 15:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] having my first pipe smoke for a loong time. #feelsgoodmanMay 18 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] someone along the route needs ti light a joint from the #Olympic torch to connect it in passing with real people #London2012May 18 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] smile for a photograph demonstrating the age of austerity, cut backs & recession http://goo.gl/sc4e0 #Royalty #extravagance #taxpayersMay 18 15:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Chan movie will be 'last action role' http://goo.gl/kIK1CMay 18 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Next step is food. Iraqi restaurant in Dubai IIRC. Starting to miss Munich.May 18 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Would you like some sci-fi in your open source?Check out @Penguicon with @suehle | http://red.ht/JRNYkBMay 18 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] 9-Year-Old To Westboro Baptist Protesters: 'God Hates No One' n.pr/JlDNHS #winMay 18 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Missing out on FUDCon Kuala Lumpur 2012 :-( http://wp.me/pj2fj-ws #fb #inMay 18 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "I like how Republicans want to make the Government just small enough to fit our bedrooms" !q Josh Lyman, "The West Wing"May 18 16:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] La ratification d’#ACTA par la France en débat - http://bit.ly/JoZgsW interesting that this is now a question (v @StopActaNow)May 18 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] plausibleMay 18 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Sullivan & Cromwell now has some lawyers with "associate specialist" title !puzzledMay 18 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolabsys Just in time for the weekend: Kolab 2.4.1 released http://is.gd/dOFAZhMay 18 17:01
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DaemonFChttp://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/survey_bias_how_can_we_trust_opinion_polls_when_so_few_people_respond_.htmlMay 18 17:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] The talk about income inequality, so shamefully censored by #TED bit.ly/JTsHH9 watch it; understand it; act upon it.May 18 17:09
schestowitz"Nice garden ornament" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1621853May 18 17:12
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?May 18 17:12
schestowitz"This is why I feel hiking is a bit overrated. Who needs that kind of drama?" "Is the tiger waiting for someone to take a shower?"May 18 17:12
schestowitz"Fuck fuck crap shite whatz thre talkign holy prrrrrt abuot? Ass farts why wuold they tihnk taht? Piss anal probe fuckers damn woof woof." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1622204May 18 17:13
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schestowitz"Please, more detailed." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1622125May 18 17:14
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DaemonFCwoof woof?May 18 17:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] “I think the ruling was not only correct, but courageous and important” - #NDAA stopped in #USA bloom.bg/Kv79yMMay 18 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The Walters Art Museum uploads 19,000 images for use on @Wikipedia via #CC BY-SA thanks to @glamwiki: http://bit.ly/Jnrat8 #GLAMMay 18 17:21
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DaemonFCI did better than I thought I would this monthMay 18 17:21
DaemonFCI've been taking out a few of the smaller of next months billsMay 18 17:21
DaemonFChopefully next month I'll have some breathing room for the first time this yearMay 18 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Debian Quality Assurance -- #Debian weather http://goo.gl/oLS2KMay 18 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #gnulinux RT @linuxquestions: #Mandriva Linux will return to the community http://tqn.me/JC4UyfMay 18 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Drogi @gimppl, co Wy na to? http://rys.io/pl/74May 18 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Jim #Gray declared legally dead http://ur1.ca/99jn1May 18 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] don't pay anything, go #gnulinux RT @linuxquestions: Microsoft to charge customers $99 to remove OEM 'crapware' http://tqn.me/JcD3U3May 18 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] An introduction to Objectivist-C http://ur1.ca/99jooMay 18 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] well, finishing my pipe; a nice, 2-hour smoke, with some cool tea alongside. ah, I missed that...May 18 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] HP To Cut 30,000 Jobs - Slashdot http://goo.gl/Jav4V .... this comment says it all! so true! #peakoileconomy #failMay 18 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kdecommunity Hard feature freeze for !KDE SC 4.9 is now in effect. Also in effect is soft message freeze. Time to start translating ...May 18 17:44
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DaemonFChttp://www.thephoenixprinciple.com/blog/2012/01/wal-marts-shoot-yourself-in-the-head-strategy.htmlMay 18 17:55
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DaemonFCthe margin on groceries isn't that high at WalmartMay 18 17:55
DaemonFCtypically 10-30%May 18 17:55
DaemonFCthe margin on general merchandise can be anywhere from 50% on upMay 18 17:56
DaemonFCit's a strategy of luring people in with low margin groceries to try to get them to make a few impulse purchases of really high margin items while they are thereMay 18 17:56
DaemonFCadding a full grocery store means the store has to be about 40% bigger, but it only ends up producing about 10% more profit because of the grocery sectionMay 18 17:57
DaemonFCdirect profit anyway, indirectly it causes frivolous spending on unnecessary and often unplanned purchases to go way up because people have to go to the grocery store a few times a month when they might have gone to the old Walmart store with no grocery section once every 2-3 monthsMay 18 17:59
DaemonFCthey don't make a lot of money on people who just use it as a grocery store and leaveMay 18 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] voted for "disagree"May 18 18:01
DaemonFCthe real damage is done to the local economy when the locally owned grocery store goes under and Walmart is now free to charge more than those stores ever didMay 18 18:01
DaemonFCthey already caused the local Marsh store to go out of business back in 2009, now there's a big empty store that's within view of my house that has been sitting there falling apart, vandalized by teenagersMay 18 18:03
DaemonFC"And a new category of retailer, called "dollar stores" emerged that beat Wal-Mart's price on almost everything for the true price shopper. "May 18 18:05
DaemonFCyes, Dollar TreeMay 18 18:05
DaemonFCconveniently located about 100 feet away from WalmartMay 18 18:05
DaemonFCeverything they do carry tends to be a lot cheaper, so I always go there firstMay 18 18:06
DaemonFCWalmart has only started to catch onto this (dinosaurs running the place might very well be what ends Walmart)May 18 18:06
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DaemonFCI'd really like to see a Meijer open up so I could shop somewhere that I didn't feel was just here to suck us dry and leaveMay 18 18:07
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DaemonFC"With each year, people found less need to buy at Wal-Mart as the on-line options exploded."May 18 18:08
DaemonFCWalmart has responded with something I think is insane.May 18 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fedora 17 release pushed back to May 29 http://ur1.ca/99jt1May 18 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] n order for identification of vehicles to work (for navigation, not Big Brother application) I am preparing a paper on http://ur1.ca/99jt2May 18 18:09
DaemonFCIf you don't have a credit card, debit card, or online checking account, you can buy something on their website, drive up to the store and pay cash, and then they'll ship the item out to you within a week or soMay 18 18:09
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DaemonFCso if you have the cash and you need to drive to Walmart anyway, why don't you just buy the thing off the shelf while you're there?May 18 18:10
DaemonFCit's a big bloated companyMay 18 18:10
DaemonFCsome of their management knows what they're doing, but I don't think it will be enough to drive the growth that investors want to seeMay 18 18:11
DaemonFC"More recently, traditional price-focused retailers have been attacked by mobile devices.  Firstly, there's the new Kindle Fire.  In just one quarter it has gone from nowhere to tied as the #1 Android tablet"May 18 18:11
DaemonFCArchos G9 tablets are much better and only a few dollars more expensiveMay 18 18:11
DaemonFCand if you insist on using Amazon "kindle" then you can run that app on any Android tabletMay 18 18:12
DaemonFCfrankly I don't understand why people buy the Kindle FireMay 18 18:12
DaemonFCit's a really crappy Android 2.3 fork-based tablet with no webcamMay 18 18:12
DaemonFCthe only thing I noticed about it that I really liked was that they are using Gorilla Glass for the screen so it's really hard to scratchMay 18 18:13
DaemonFCnothing but that really seemed to stand outMay 18 18:13
DaemonFCbookstore apps, DRM and all, are becoming harder to resist if you want to read booksMay 18 18:14
DaemonFCwell, there's the library of course but whenever I want to read something they don't have it and they end up making me wait for two weeks while they borrow it from another libraryMay 18 18:15
DaemonFCschestowitz, looks like Intelius got sick of dealing with me sending them emails and finally delisted meMay 18 18:17
DaemonFCthey kept refusing to so I started sending the same email from dozens of different accounts several times a day until finally I just got one back that said they agreed to delist meMay 18 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] US Justice Dept Defends Right To Record Police http://goo.gl/9gjU6 1st the #NDAA case http://ur1.ca/99jvf now this, good job!May 18 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] enough of this crap; I am blocking @identicats. sayonara, #PollSpam.May 18 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #UK #surveillance program could expose private lives http://goo.gl/NuHVr #policestate vi@jmcestMay 18 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan *SLOW* status message I just posted here is not showing up in home Timeline or Profile page until *after* it appears on TwitterMay 18 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] W ciągu ostatnich 2-3 lat w !Polska dużo się wydarzyło, jeżeli chodzi o Internet, jego cenzurę, neutralność Sieci. trzeba to zebrać!May 18 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Before !Canada passed Bill !C11 ot must include mandatory TPM WARNINGS so Canadians will *know* if we break the law !copyright !CDNpoliMay 18 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And it is *still* not in my Timeline: https://twitter.com/#!/laurelrusswurm/status/203535536831471616May 18 18:31
TechrightsBot-tr@laurelrusswurm: @creativecommons And a photo of a #publicdomain painting s/b CC0 not a #CC by-sa http://t.co/QdJL8RxF @glamwiki @walters_museum @mlinksvaMay 18 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan but on my profile pageMay 18 18:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] .@ArsTechnica on #TPP and the members of the resistance against the global export of copyright https://eff.org/r.a9bp #ACTAMay 18 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Good evening @thelovebug still online? ;-)May 18 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek it's amazing that you didn't do it sooner! xDMay 18 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #YouTube, Y U fast-forward upon Ctrl+L? I want to jump to the Location Bar, not skip few minutes of video, damn you!May 18 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #Guantanamo private police coming to #UK? bit.ly/LeGyoj with friends like the #USA, who needs enemies?..May 18 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Food Inc HD 720p | Veoh http://goo.gl/8t4JD #docsMay 18 18:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Forks Over Knives online - http://goo.gl/mMnHJ #docs #foodMay 18 18:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] McDonald’s vai investir 15 milhões de euros em Portugal http://goo.gl/vOims | Food Inc http://goo.gl/8t4JD Forks Knives http://goo.gl/mMnHJMay 18 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear !cc music fans, I'm looking for some good #CC-licensed #electroswing. Any suggestions?May 18 19:02
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XFaCEhttp://www.digitaltrends.com/music/bittorrent-piracy-increases-sales-of-leaked-albums-study/May 18 19:10
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XFaCEhttp://www.vancouverobserver.com/blogs/tmi/2012/05/11/dictator-sacha-baron-cohen-commends-stephen-harper-silencing-mediaMay 18 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Friday http://ur1.ca/99k7hMay 18 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Irish village Dubai. http://ur1.ca/99k8kMay 18 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks @digitante ... i had no idea that it was that bad, or that the !publicdomain was that close to extinction. !copyright #sucksMay 18 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Weekend Project: Replace Active Directory with Resara Server and Samba4 | Linux.com http://bit.ly/KpJfUWMay 18 19:39
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XFaCEhttp://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6497/125/May 18 19:42
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XFaCEso MSBSA's manufactured statistics apparently are designed to favour CanadaMay 18 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RSVP for EFF's Geek Reading: The Broken E-Voting System with Barbara Simons on 5/30/12. http://ur1.ca/99kc0May 18 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fisl: O prazo para colaborar na consulta pública sobre a Microsoft vai até domingo. Participe! http://va.mu/VWtuMay 18 20:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] 4 days to !Mageia 2 \m/May 18 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ouvidoria do MinFaz falou pra solicitar fontes e docs do sw fiscal da RFB via http://ur1.ca/99km9 feito!May 18 20:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] on http://qt-kde.debian.net/ I meant, "experimental-snapshots"May 18 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 114 dents!May 18 21:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Tesla Coil Gun http://identi.ca/url/69842627 !scienceMay 18 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Don't forget to celebrate #culturefreedomday tomorrow! http://ur1.ca/9915pMay 18 21:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] decisive #politicians can't keep kicking the can down the road; totally unlike #Cameron with Lords reform then #Torys #PoliticsMay 18 22:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] sorry, Lords reform is not a priority, we have rich mates to sell the state's family jewels too, to create wealth for them #TorysMay 18 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] besides, if we reform the Lords, where would we put our loyal party senior citizens? #Torys #PoliticsMay 18 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A scientific basis for Open Source Software http://ur1.ca/99lc2May 18 22:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Too bad it isn't enough ♻ @ElizabethMay !C11 yay! NDP, Liberals, Bloc & independent Hyer are voting with me to stop digital locks! !cdnpoliMay 18 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Copyright Troll Demands $8,500 From Rarely Visited Lindsay Lohan Fansite http://goo.gl/8AOSvMay 18 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Business class. Dubai. http://ur1.ca/99ldqMay 18 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Citizen Video Evidence Helps Two Arrested Photographers Have Their Cases Dropped http://goo.gl/lSA4JMay 18 22:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] officers who falsify evidence should be charged with perjury when caughtMay 18 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] that'd be great, @kevie but how? where is "filter" hidden?May 18 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] officers caught falsifying evidence shouldn't just be allowed to walk way with the case dropped, they abused their position to cause harmMay 18 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Sitting outside on a warm day working. Sunshine and Fridays are awesome together. :-)May 18 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if you can't assume evidence a Police officer gives is accurate or honest, the entire justice system breaksMay 18 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I think I've found the solution to my recent GPG email inconsistencies; send & receive in plain text - it works fineMay 18 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I had no idea that wasn't fixed yet. I'll have to refrain from voting till it is, or I forget (remind me)May 18 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Do you know if !identicurse has poll, or vote result, blockingMay 18 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R/S @thistleweb: if you can't assume evidence a Police officer gives is accurate or honest, the entire justice system breaksMay 18 22:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @saskboy ⇒ @kady's link to audio file of "transparent parliamentary democracy" inspired me to write this http://www.ur1.ca/99lg4 !CDNpoliMay 18 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Local governments can and should use their oversight power to restrict drone surveillance in the United States https://eff.org/r.a8brMay 18 22:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] until I can adjust something in the account settings to opt out of all polls and results, I am NOT using groups, they're a write offMay 18 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Facebook went from 42 US$ to 38 today? Count me surprised.May 18 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Most popular this week: SAS v. WPL decision addresses boundaries of copyrights on software by @richardfontana | http://red.ht/JVDyRbMay 18 23:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hartelijk gefeliciteerd, +Nicole van Rossum, ook al is het een dag te laat :-(May 18 23:04
XFaCEhttp://www.thestar.com/videozone/1181011--nude-stephen-harper-painting-causes-a-stir?bn=1May 18 23:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Plan for tomorrow: tailored shirts and official equipment for Arabian Arrabbiata. Dubai is everything. And in the late... http://b1t.it/bt6YMay 18 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] X.Org: "A Wasteland of Unreviewedness" (Phoronix) http://ur1.ca/99lozMay 18 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Need help finding this weird session bug in identi.ca. @kreig @cmike @talishte @duchucu @edwingod please join me in #statusnet freenodeMay 18 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also @archgt plsMay 18 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The ski slope in Dubai. From the outside. http://ur1.ca/99lqe... http://b1t.it/bt68May 18 23:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @seraphyn RT @rysiek enough of this crap; I am blocking @identicats. sayonara, #PollSpam.May 18 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] If you just got logged out: sorry. I've changed our session management to try to work around a problem some users are having.May 18 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft aren't worried about the learn-ability of a new OS http://goo.gl/830kT excellent, get folks used to switching to #Linux easier :DMay 18 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] stripping off the glossy stuff does just make it look far more bland & drone like; I guess they're banking on the same old same oldMay 18 23:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Romance Author Adele Dubois Receives Takedown On Blog Post For Having The Same Name As Singer Adele http://goo.gl/Fum9iMay 18 23:56
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