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| DaemonFC | after a while there were so many of them that they declared that it was no longer part of Mexico and the Mexican government wasn't really in much of a position to take it back | May 21 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't think any states that are being overran by illegal Mexican immigrants will break away from the US, but what they will do is be an undue burden on the US welfare state | May 21 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | to support a majority Hispanic population that will not ever bother to integrate itself | May 21 00:01 |
| DaemonFC | http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/americans-afghanistan-fight-2014-top-commander/story?id=16391078 | May 21 00:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Americans in Afghanistan to fight through 2014, top commander says - ABC News .::. Size~: 51.57 KB | May 21 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | "The commander of NATO-led forces in Afghanistan bluntly warned Sunday that American soldiers will face combat in that war-torn country right up to the time they leave, December 31, 2014. " | May 21 00:06 |
| DaemonFC | and once we leave it will still be a war torn country, only the government will eventually be overthrown and it will revert to being exactly how we found it a couple trillion dollars and a few thousand dead soldiers ago | May 21 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | if the Soviets never made any progress there despite years of trying and a STATED policy of murdering civilians indiscriminately to get what they came there for (oil), I don't know why anyone ever thought the US would fare better | May 21 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | the Soviet Union's occupation was far worse than the US occupation | May 21 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | we drop food to civilians, the Soviets were dropping booby trapped toys to lure in and explode, maiming children who picked them up | May 21 00:09 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: You are missing it. | May 21 00:09 |
| oiaohm | When the Soviets had Afghanistan the CIA thought it was a good idea to set up a drug trade to fund the rebels. | May 21 00:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @expatpaul I am very good at it | May 21 00:11 | |
| oiaohm | Ok lets not care that those people are extrame relegions followers we well train them teach them how to grow drugs well and send them back. | May 21 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | well, the Taliban were not tolerating that | May 21 00:11 |
| oiaohm | The Taliban is directly the USA fault for creating them. DaemonFC | May 21 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's one of the reasons the country was severely poor under them | May 21 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | the one cash crop they had was illegal and if you grew it, they'd burn it down and kil lyou and your family | May 21 00:12 |
| oiaohm | No the Taliban were growing the drug crop to fund weapons and the like. | May 21 00:13 |
| oiaohm | If you did not give you cut yes they would kill you. | May 21 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | the Afghan government has very few legitimate sources of income, because their GDP is largely dependent on deadly illegal drugs and "foreign aid" | May 21 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | so their government is hardly legitimate and I can't see that changing in the near future | May 21 00:14 |
| oiaohm | Before Russian went Afghanistan had many different food crops. | May 21 00:14 |
| oiaohm | That they exported. | May 21 00:14 |
| oiaohm | And the land there is still able to grow those. | May 21 00:14 |
| DaemonFC | but they found a more profitable use for it | May 21 00:15 |
| oiaohm | The problem is getting the legitimate crops in the ground and the illegal crops out. | May 21 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | killing non-Muslims with heroin while making big bucks doing it | May 21 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | there's nothing that a Muslim would find wrong about that | May 21 00:15 |
| oiaohm | Exactly Taliban logic. | May 21 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Sell the drug kill you enemy profit. | May 21 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Other than the fact you end up not growing enough of your own food | May 21 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | anyone stupid enough to use heroin deserves what happens to them | May 21 00:16 |
| oiaohm | So you have to import to live. | May 21 00:16 |
| oiaohm | Really in Afghanistan you have to get back to at least where the farmers can use enough to there land just to grow food for themselves at a min. | May 21 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | anyone stupid enough to use meth deserves what happens to them | May 21 00:17 |
| oiaohm | How is the problem | May 21 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | if people use something that kills them, and they know it will kill them, good riddance | May 21 00:18 |
| oiaohm | That is how it was before Soviet Union was in that area. | May 21 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | don't make it illegal, don't put them in prison | May 21 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | let it play out | May 21 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | the world needs fewer of them | May 21 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Where farmers would grow a mix of drug and food crops. | May 21 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Also Australia we have to be careful. | May 21 00:18 |
| oiaohm | Tazamina is the largest legal grower of medical opiom poppy. | May 21 00:19 |
| oiaohm | Its not like the plant Afghanistan grows does not have a legal usage. | May 21 00:20 |
| oiaohm | Its volume they are producing more than the legal market needs. | May 21 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | the prescription drug industry produces more addicts than the illegal drug industry does | May 21 00:20 |
| oiaohm | So if they did go legal they would destory one of Australia's incomes. | May 21 00:20 |
| oiaohm | So you cannot say that Australia is in Afghanistan without motive. | May 21 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | there's not much of a push to punish doctors for handing that crap out to people who don't really need it | May 21 00:21 |
| oiaohm | heroin is only one product from the poppy. | May 21 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | you don't think there's a black market for prescription narcotics? | May 21 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | you don't think people get addicted to those and die from them? | May 21 00:22 |
| oiaohm | Strong pain killers, anti-cancer drugs | May 21 00:22 |
| oiaohm | The narcotics side is not the only chemical the plant makes. | May 21 00:23 |
| oiaohm | The australian versions of it have been worked on to lift the other chemicals. | May 21 00:23 |
| oiaohm | Its a quite useful plant. | May 21 00:23 |
| oiaohm | As with humans anything that can be abused is. | May 21 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | I keep a bottle of aspirin around for migraine headaches | May 21 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | that's the only pain killer I tend to use and I only use it when I'm in pain | May 21 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | and it's not habit forming | May 21 00:24 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: I use an australian lemon grass for that. | May 21 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | more people take opiates because of a drug addiction than people who take them for pain | May 21 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | that's the danger | May 21 00:25 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: it handles pain but does not thin blood. | May 21 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | even people who get them because they're in pain are at risk of becoming addicted | May 21 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | and then they go find other sources to get more of it | May 21 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | there's a doctor here in town that writes many prescriptions for things like Morphine to people who don't really need it | May 21 00:26 |
| oiaohm | One of the Australian native lemon grasses is used to assist against that. | May 21 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | you're going to ask how I know they don't need it | May 21 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | the police did a massive prescription drug bust last year and arrested 105 people connected to a black market prescription drug ring | May 21 00:27 |
| oiaohm | Ie you are on morphone doc swaps you to a lemon grass based tablet. | May 21 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | dealers, users, etc. | May 21 00:27 |
| oiaohm | And you don't notice. | May 21 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | everyone except this doctor that wrote out about 80% of those prescriptions originally | May 21 00:27 |
| oiaohm | and getting off the lemon grass is simpler. | May 21 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | they don't do anything about white collar crime | May 21 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | even if they did bother to do anything with him it would be with kid gloves, like they do whenever they can't avoid prosecuting rich people | May 21 00:28 |
| oiaohm | That is the thing | May 21 00:28 |
| oiaohm | Most docs in Australia cannot write Morphine for people. Unless you have cancer or some other write off. | May 21 00:29 |
| oiaohm | Morophine is hospital only. | May 21 00:29 |
| oiaohm | USA system is far too lax with the additive drugs. | May 21 00:29 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yep | May 21 00:31 |
| oiaohm | In fact if you are dieing docs are allowed to even prescribe the drug based of hemp that I cannot type. | May 21 00:31 |
| oiaohm | In Australia | May 21 00:31 |
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| oiaohm | Our medical system here is highly sane. | May 21 00:31 |
| oiaohm | One of the big things that gives away drug shoping in australia is the goverment medicare card. | May 21 00:32 |
| oiaohm | The usa lack of proper traced public medical system gives a problem. | May 21 00:33 |
| oiaohm | Ie medicare card being used at many different docs in under a year needs investagtion. | May 21 00:33 |
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| oiaohm | Drug shopping is only possible in the USA because the system suxs over there. | May 21 00:34 |
| oiaohm | http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Roadmap | May 21 00:51 |
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| oiaohm | There is a jump | May 21 00:51 |
| formic_ | im trying openbsd right now | May 21 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | OpenBDSM | May 21 01:16 |
| formic_ | running it on an old p4 notebook i found | May 21 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | that's probably the newest hardware era where it will probably recognize your GPU anyway | May 21 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 21 01:18 |
| formic_ | cause openbsd is for desktops | May 21 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | it can be | May 21 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | just not a very good one | May 21 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | but that's common with BSDs | May 21 01:20 |
| scientes | <DaemonFC> OpenBDSM | May 21 01:20 |
| scientes | lol | May 21 01:20 |
| scientes | like FreeLSD | May 21 01:20 |
| scientes | the encyclopedia dramatica article on BSD got wasted, but it use to have a nice passage on that :) | May 21 01:21 |
| scientes | FreeLSD | May 21 01:21 |
| formic_ | bsds are for servers | May 21 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they use Windows for their desktops | May 21 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | they hate the idea that anyone should be able to use free software but realize that Windows makes a terrible web server | May 21 01:22 |
| formic_ | they could be using linux, mac or windows for deskto0s | May 21 01:22 |
| formic_ | what are you smoking | May 21 01:22 |
| formic_ | openbsd doesn't accept proprietary code | May 21 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | there probably wouldn't be any actively developed BSDs if Windows or OS X could run servers well | May 21 01:23 |
| formic_ | it can't be audited for security | May 21 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | the people developing BSDs don't care about free software | May 21 01:23 |
| formic_ | thats not true, stop trolling | May 21 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | they just want software that works well and open source is an expedient way to get there | May 21 01:24 |
| formic_ | using that argument, Linus must be evil | May 21 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, he is | May 21 01:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DeaconBlue - Twist & Shout http://goo.gl/7zirA #Scotland in da hissy \o/ bouncy :D #fb | May 21 01:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hue and Cry - Labour of Love http://goo.gl/74gRY more under rated #Scottish pride \o/ fantastic bassline :D | May 21 01:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] having a #SusannaHoffs kick on #YouTube - words can't express how perfect she is :D #fb | May 21 01:24 | |
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| formic_ | so are you | May 21 01:24 |
| formic_ | the opera web browser, proprietary amd graphics drivers | May 21 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | Seamonkey is made by Opera now? | May 21 01:26 |
| formic_ | openbsd doesn't include proprietary browsers like opera, or proprietary graphics drivers | May 21 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | when did that happen? | May 21 01:26 |
| formic_ | dont lie about not using opera | May 21 01:26 |
| formic_ | you dont give a shit about free software either | May 21 01:26 |
| formic_ | if non free works better, you dont mind (catalyst) | May 21 01:27 |
| scientes | DaemonFC <3 chains | May 21 01:27 |
| scientes | DaemonFC <3 fglrx/catalyst | May 21 01:27 |
| formic_ | daemonfc is just a troll | May 21 01:27 |
| scientes | ^^ | May 21 01:27 |
| formic_ | openbsd is way more free than any of his graphics drivers or non free software | May 21 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | I like how the BSD people accuse Linux of fragmentation | May 21 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | then they go and make their own incompatible BSD forks | May 21 01:28 |
| scientes | DaemonFC, why don't you go write some code | May 21 01:28 |
| scientes | there are plenty of bugs to fix | May 21 01:28 |
| formic_ | hes too busy trolling | May 21 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Richard Dawkins endorses gratis bibles | May 21 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | 20 May 2012 | May 21 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Richard Dawkins endorsed a government plan to provide gratis bibles to UK state schools. He says that people who read these bibles will see how bad the book is as a moral guide. | May 21 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | but that's the problem with people who read the bible, they either really haven't read it or they have selected which pieces they agree with or selectively interpret everything | May 21 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | that way whatever they do is right and whatever you do makes you a nasty sinner | May 21 01:30 |
| formic_ | lol still trawling | May 21 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://stallman.org/archives/2012-mar-jun.html#20_May_2012_%28Richard_Dawkins_endorses_gratis_bibles%29 | May 21 01:31 |
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| formic_ | as long as the source code is available, i dont see the issue | May 21 01:32 |
| formic_ | bsd, linux, w/e | May 21 01:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The 3.4 kernel is out http://ur1.ca/9a1ck | May 21 01:33 | |
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| formic_ | even haiku if that floats your boat | May 21 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | the Catholic church didn't want the bible to be mass printed | May 21 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | they also did not like that more and more people were becoming literate | May 21 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | if there's a lot of bibles floating around and most people are able to read, then the fear is that they will read it and decide for themselves that it is a load of nonsense | May 21 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | but, that didn't exactly happen | May 21 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | there's many more people today that call themselves non-religious, but it's still a minority | May 21 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | intelligent people tend to have fewer children | May 21 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | so they could never hope to reproduce fast enough and instill those children with real morals and values at a pace that could ever overtake the way religion tells people to multiply and stuff their children's minds full of ridiculous mythology | May 21 01:38 |
| formic_ | you should start burning bibles on peoples lawns | May 21 01:42 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the dictionary in my soul would define "perfect woman" as "#SusannaHoffs" jus' sayin' | May 21 02:14 | |
| DaemonFC | formic_, I'll do you one better | May 21 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | urinate on them | May 21 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | pour lighter fluid on them | May 21 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | and then burn them | May 21 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | it draws it out and gives them more time to be horrified | May 21 02:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NATO protests in Chicago: Police van drives into protesters (photos+video) http://identi.ca/url/69887133 #policestate | May 21 02:34 | |
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| scientes | old is old | May 21 03:28 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I am not so sure. Some of my fiction seems to be a rebel wrt this. | May 21 04:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @access2research: Believe in #openaccess? Then pass the word about access2research.org and sign the petition at wh.gov/6TH - now. | May 21 04:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !gnu !linuxlibre 3.4-gnu and 3.2.18-gnu waiting for upstream tarballs; git tags or targz snapshots won't get us the expected xdeltas | May 21 06:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] then let's print some more! ♻ @tekk: #quicknote $72 trillion is more money than there is on the entire planet | May 21 06:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @poggs just use gnome shell ;) | May 21 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @MarathonBelgium bedankt! | May 21 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ecowarmte: Bedankt @pietercolpaert voor de hulp bij het installeren van #TheDataTank. Nu eens zien http://ur1. ... | May 21 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Joke Ik heb alvast een inschrijvingsformulier voor je ingevuld Joke! #gent #stadsloop | May 21 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Joke 'k zal het geven aan het inschrijvingskotteken straks ;) | May 21 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @hochstenbach: Pushed ODbL licensed #ugent catalog dumps into our new @GitHubUGent repository http: http://ur1. ... | May 21 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @iRail: Ready for #iSoc12? http://t.co/iLIGScbY (iRail Summer of code is looking for 2 more students) | May 21 07:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] I finished the first 4 eps of Angry Birds Space + all 6 eggsteroids, every level 3 stars | May 21 07:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Es ist nur ein Gerücht das Manfred Krug bei Facebook helfen soll den Börsengang zu retten. | May 21 07:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] #LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich on November 23-25: http://ur1.ca/9a32j !libo | May 21 08:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So now that Facebook, Googleplus, Diaspora and Microsoft's thingy look the same, can we start working on interoperabil... http://b1t.it/buAS | May 21 08:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @cwbio #Computers #Without #Borders group is born on identi! http://ur1.ca/9a2w3 Join us to get action on Free Computers Solutions! !FSF | May 21 08:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Romanian Royal Family at #Windsor Castle and #Ascot http://ur1.ca/9a37n #photo #romania #uk #jubilee #event | May 21 08:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @sandersch !LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich on November 23-25: http://ur1.ca/9a32j #libo | May 21 08:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brussels wants e-identities for EU citizens - http://bit.ly/JJOLXj #IDcards by the back door | May 21 08:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] YouTube users upload 72 hours of video every minute - http://bit.ly/KqtPk1 wow, 20% increase in just a few months | May 21 08:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Familia Regală română la Castelul #Windsor și #Ascot http://ur1.ca/9a37n #photo #romania #uk #jubilee #event | May 21 09:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [correct link] Brussels wants e-identities for EU citizens - http://bit.ly/JhX7EH #IDcards by the back door | May 21 09:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Linux 3.4 arrives http://ur1.ca/9a3d7 What's new in Linux 3.4 http://ur1.ca/9a3d8 #theh #linux #kernel | May 21 09:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kdecommunity KDE community recently lost a member. May Claire Lotion rest in peace → http://ur1.ca/9a0qq | May 21 09:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Office net in #Kisii is surprisingly fast! | May 21 09:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Some pix of my trip to the arab region: Dubai, Bahrain, Dammam, Riyadh, Abu Dhabi, Qatar. http://ur1.ca/93x1e... http://b1t.it/buCF | May 21 10:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] I <3 Google Docs! | May 21 10:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] What? Google docs can't open RTF files? | May 21 10:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just learnt from @kelzoko's Google + that he is #Kakamega. Wasalimieko huko. | May 21 10:44 | |
| *MinceR_ is now known as MinceR | May 21 10:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Só um português investiu um milhão no #Facebook - JNo http://goo.gl/cFV9X #facebroke há patinhos para tudo! tststsss http://ur1.ca/9a3ru | May 21 10:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Kisii 100 http://ur1.ca/9a3tl In this blog post @Qelvin | May 21 10:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So going to register Mbrrrcha.com | May 21 11:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Jure Repinc (JLP) is attending Sestanek Piratov v Caffe Metropolu. | May 21 11:08 | |
| schestowitz | "It's funny and scary at the same time how industrialized countries are beginning to sound more and more like developing countries. #disturbing " https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1634459 | May 21 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 11:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] They're deploying the army in Montreal, Canada to fight a student strike. #LOL @evan | May 21 11:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @dfi DFI will start co-organizing SFD Summits starting this year, together will local teams. Call for hosts : http://identi.ca/url/69 ... | May 21 11:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This ----> "@perpetuahsugar @nj3ma dont enter me" #GNR | May 21 11:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Here's a nice one. Run OwnCloud on Red Hat's Openshift. The perfect fit IMHO. http://ur1.ca/9a410... http://b1t.it/buDE | May 21 11:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Chrome overtakes Internet Explorer as the Web’s most used browser - http://tnw.co/JJymjO well, well | May 21 11:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Gone Rogue - http://bit.ly/JsuWlp out of touch, out of control #tpp #transparency (v @MsLods) | May 21 11:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yo Dawg! [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9a42d | May 21 11:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Study: Despite tougher copyright monopoly laws, sharing remains pervasive - http://bit.ly/JwdnwB it's good to share | May 21 11:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #mafiaa RT @glynmoody: Study: Despite tougher copyright monopoly laws, sharing remains pervasive - http://bit.ly/JwdnwB it's good to share | May 21 11:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, frighteningly close | May 21 11:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] go #FIREFOX RT @glynmoody: Google Chrome overtakes Internet Explorer as the Web’s most used browser - http://tnw.co/JJymjO well, well | May 21 11:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK #OpenStandards Consultation Events - http://bit.ly/Jhuckd there are now more of these important events - pl. take part (by phone, too) | May 21 11:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #ZTE admits to backdoor in one of its #Android devices - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/PdWD2 #security #fail #mobile | May 21 11:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #Sun in microcosm http://goo.gl/Q6as3 1st faux outrage at free #iPads then http://goo.gl/W4jMt faux news story advertising the Sun's app | May 21 12:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from The Next Web http://ur1.ca/9a48u | May 21 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Who's Pirating Game of Thrones, and Why? http://goo.gl/xgTqW because of #P2P i bought the 1st two books, before i didn't know it existed... | May 21 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Tax on Everything http://ur1.ca/9a490 #swpats #suse #ubuntu | May 21 12:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Jan Wildeboer http://ur1.ca/9a4aa | May 21 12:24 | |
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| MinceR | nazis keep trying to silence the remaining 1 opposition radio station >> http://www.politics.hu/20120521/parliament-passes-amendments-to-media-law-2/ | May 21 12:30 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, We have our own Nazis here running the state of Indiana | May 21 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/energy-environment/indiana-supreme-court-declines-to-drop-charges-against-woman-who-ate-rat-poison-while-pregnant/2012/05/11/gIQAX3OSIU_story.html | May 21 12:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Indiana Supreme Court declines to drop charges against woman who ate rat poison while pregnant - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 205.54 KB | May 21 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | instead of getting this poor woman some psychiatric help, they charge here with "feticide" for trying to commit suicide which led to the death of the fetus | May 21 12:38 |
| MinceR | well, the new nazi constitution supports an anti-choice perspective | May 21 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | she did not know she was pregnant and was clearly having what other state law considers a psychiatric medical emergency | May 21 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | *her | May 21 12:38 |
| MinceR | also, christian fundamentalism is advancing again in hungaristan | May 21 12:38 |
| MinceR | (google translate) http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=hu&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Findex.hu%2Fbelfold%2F2011%2F05%2F10%2Fkeresztlevelet_kernek_egyre_tobb_altalanos_iskolaban%2F&act=url | May 21 12:39 |
| DaemonFC | probably sponsored by an influx of money from US Christian "charities" | May 21 12:39 |
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| DaemonFC | seems to be how it's spreading in all the most repressive countries | May 21 12:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Inside the Dubai office. http://ur1.ca/9a4d4 https://plus.... http://b1t.it/buEO | May 21 12:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Freedom of Thought Requires Free Media & Why Free Media Require Free Technology - http://bit.ly/Jrhlgz most important talk at #republica | May 21 12:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | it's where that "Eat da poo poo" guy and his group in Uganda get their funding to bash gays | May 21 12:39 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, The more they go along with whatever the US Christian groups want, the more those US Christian groups hand them money | May 21 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | not money for the state, but money for the corrupt politicians who advance their causes | May 21 12:42 |
| MinceR | i think fidesz/kdnp don't get money from usian cultists though | May 21 12:42 |
| MinceR | it's just part of their own ideology | May 21 12:42 |
| MinceR | always was what kdnp was about | May 21 12:42 |
| MinceR | then orban decided he'll reinvent himself as a fundie | May 21 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | those politicians in Uganda probably each got thousands of dollars personally for their work to roll back human rights there | May 21 12:43 |
| MinceR | so that's where we are now | May 21 12:43 |
| MinceR | also, he probably expects the kiddie-fuckers to help support the dictatorship | May 21 12:43 |
| MinceR | just like they supported previous nazi regimes | May 21 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | oh, you mean the Other Sicilian Mafia | May 21 12:43 |
| MinceR | well, they aren't based in sicily | May 21 12:43 |
| MinceR | they're based in rome :> | May 21 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | the one that is currently attacking the healthcare law in the US for providing birth control pills | May 21 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was reading a story the other day where a guy was suing the drug companies that make birth control pills for negligence in not putting a huge warning to men with bad eyesight on each bottle | May 21 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | because he thought he was taking Viagra and he ended up reaching into the cabinet and swallowing one of his wife's birth control pills instead | May 21 12:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In #Motorola Case, #Microsoft Boosters Use Slashdot for Anti-Linux/Android Patent Propaganda http://ur1.ca/9a4e6 #swpats | May 21 12:46 | |
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| DaemonFC | and ended up in the emergency room with "severe gastric distress" | May 21 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | "The company which hardly pays any tax" | May 21 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There's a lot of those | May 21 12:47 |
| DaemonFC | Google and Facebook and Apple are some other good examples | May 21 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | they threaten to leave the state and/or the US entirely if they are assessed income taxes | May 21 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | so they end up getting whatever they want in concessions | May 21 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @glynmoody Why Freedom of Thought Requires Free Media & Why Free Media Require Free Technology - http://bit.ly/Jrhlgz most important ... | May 21 12:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: My speech on New powers to shape the Telecoms Single Market: one year on #EU http://t.co http://p.ost.im/p/etLPa7 | May 21 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: I've called for tools to make internet a better place for kids. Good to see @MSEurope re http://p.ost.im/p/eG3rGG | May 21 12:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sun: Interoperability More Important Than Patents http://ur1.ca/9a4ey #swpats #sun #oracle #android #java | May 21 12:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chrome-passes-IE-in-browser-share-1580620.html | May 21 12:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Chrome passes IE in browser share - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 39.89 KB | May 21 12:53 |
| MinceR | nice | May 21 12:53 |
| MinceR | even crashe is preferable to ie | May 21 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | It's not IE, so that's a big improvement right off the bat. | May 21 12:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | May 21 12:53 |
| DaemonFC | IE is still losing about 1-1.5% a month both in the US and Global stats | May 21 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | but it has more users as a percentage in the US than in other developed countries | May 21 12:54 |
| MinceR | looks like firefox will soon leave ie behind as well | May 21 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | Globally, expect to see it under 20% this year | May 21 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | in reality I believe it already is | May 21 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | there's a lot of crap that really isn't IE but claims it is, like some antivirus software that goes along clicking links in search results | May 21 12:55 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | AVG's Firefox extension does that and still calls itself IE 7 | May 21 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | there was a big corresponding dip in IE 6 usage stats when AVG Linkscanner started calling itself IE 7 | May 21 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | based on that, I believe that AVG alone is causing an IE overcount of at least 2-3% | May 21 12:56 |
| DaemonFC | and then there's situations where Opera silently changes its user agent if it believes there will be trouble | May 21 12:57 |
| DaemonFC | and the fact that adblock users cause an undercount of other browsers | May 21 12:58 |
| DaemonFC | if Statcounter says IE is 30% globally, I'd take that to mean it's really hovering around 20 | May 21 12:59 |
| MinceR | http://narf-archive.com/pix/1b0d795f5197534b410f99112324af6d094e1ebf.jpg | May 21 13:00 |
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| DaemonFC | http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-201221 | May 21 13:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ‘Piracy’ and ‘Discount’ Propaganda Used to Kick Free Software Out of Governments in Favour of Microsoft Deals http://ur1.ca/9a4gj #microsoft | May 21 13:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Statcounter says on week 1 of 2012, IE was at 37.46%and as of this week it is at 31.46% | May 21 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox was at 25.1 and is now at 26.42 | May 21 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | it looks like they are rebounding after losing a few points though | May 21 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | most of the decline in IE is now driven by Chrome | May 21 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-US-weekly-200827-201221 | May 21 13:03 |
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| DaemonFC | In the US, IE has taken a nose dive in 2012 | May 21 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | 46.11 to 30.94 | May 21 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | nearly 16 points in only 5 months | May 21 13:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jeremy Hunt investigated over donations register http://goo.gl/Oo10u | May 21 13:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | Safari has a record high in the US this month, at 15.81 | May 21 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | but most of that is because of Mobile Safari on devices | May 21 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | the number of OS X users has not increased | May 21 13:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] Help us stopping governments' ads for proprietary #PDReaders! Sign the petition !gnu !freesoftware http://www.ur1.ca/1nbvh | May 21 13:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] AOL Helps Microsoft Infiltrate, Harm Open Source Communities, Feeds Facebook With Google-Hostile Patents http://ur1.ca/9a4my #aol #swpats | May 21 13:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | everything AOL touches turns to crap | May 21 13:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @fsfe Help us stopping governments' ads for proprietary #PDReaders! Sign the petition !gnu !freesoftware http://www.ur1.ca/1nbvh | May 21 13:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Zealand (NZ) Patent Debates Expand http://ur1.ca/9a4og #nz #swpats | May 21 13:29 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] London #NHS Trust fined £90,000 for faxing patient records to the wrong number http://goo.gl/JWnMs | May 21 13:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Should People Learn To Code? Yes – If They Are Judges Ruling On Cases Involving Software - http://bit.ly/KroR6v makes sense | May 21 13:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Mandriva-management-wants-to-collaborate-with-Mageia-Update-1580440.html | May 21 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mandriva management wants to collaborate with Mageia - Update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 41.54 KB | May 21 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | Mageia gave them a cold shoulder so far | May 21 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | it would be nice if they could come to some kind of an understanding and proceed with one distribution instead of two | May 21 13:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Red Hat OpenShift iin one line: "Here's the code. Now run it. #kthxbai" - http://ur1.ca/9a4s1 | May 21 13:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Playing against girlfriend [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9a4sc | May 21 13:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Articles Against Software Patents and Patent Trolls http://ur1.ca/9a4sd #swpats #us #politics | May 21 13:51 | |
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| schestowitz | [12:47] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, There's a lot of those | May 21 13:52 |
| schestowitz | I know | May 21 13:52 |
| DaemonFC | "free trade" enables this | May 21 13:53 |
| DaemonFC | businesses like "free trade" because it really means that if the community they exploit starts expecting something in return, they can simply pack up and leave | May 21 13:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there needs to be a #Debian variant or release name called "The Claaaaaawwwww" #ToyStory | May 21 13:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Repeated [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9a4su | May 21 13:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | even Stallman got this one right when he called it Free Exploitation | May 21 13:54 |
| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 21 14:01:37 2012 | ||
| *Now talking on #techrights | May 21 14:01 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | May 21 14:01 | |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: in some area usa does have protectionism. | May 21 14:15 |
| schestowitz | [13:56] <DaemonFC> China and Mexico like to hurl the accusation of "protectionism" against the US, as they engage in dumping and other predatory pricing practices here | May 21 14:23 |
| schestowitz | [13:56] <DaemonFC> there is very little protectionism in the US | May 21 14:23 |
| schestowitz | [13:56] <DaemonFC> there's far more of it going on in China and Mexico | May 21 14:23 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah, that's what it's all about | May 21 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | despite numerous "free trade" agreements, US manufacturing and agriculture often has a hard time getting into Chinese and Mexican markets even when they would be price competitive or provide goods that the local economy there cannot produce | May 21 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | those "free trade" agreements are completely one sided in favor of countries such as China and Mexico and that shows in the trade deficit between those countries and the US | May 21 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | they're designed to break organized labor in the US, roll back every standard of living increase that we've accomplished in the last 100 years | May 21 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | the benefit a few obscenely wealthy people in the US and the countries where we are "trading", and they lead to massive unemployment and low wages in the US, and what amounts to slave labor in the other country in question | May 21 14:27 |
| schestowitz | same here | May 21 14:27 |
| schestowitz | yesterday I got a story for you | May 21 14:27 |
| schestowitz | my friend Mike and I (I am his best friend) went to do BBQ in the wild in the the bushes we found two people | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Not homeless per se | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Not dodgy-looking | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | they said they had stayed there for two weeks | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | in a wasteland-like forest area | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | near the very centre of Manchester | May 21 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I spent a few years working manufacturing jobs, back during their twilight years | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | They said "financial meltdown" | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | I don't think they were addicts | May 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | If cities become more like this, crime will surge | May 21 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | I literally had several jobs spanning those few years because I'd get hired somewhere and then the next month they announced layoffs were coming | May 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | painting? | May 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | maybe you got the job because of the layoffs | May 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | some people see it coming | May 21 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | painting, welding, assembly line stuff | May 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | and then they leave | May 21 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | May 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | proactive departure | May 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | leave before getting fired | May 21 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | they want to build up their warehouse | May 21 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | lay everyone off | May 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | and then they need quick recruits to train fast | May 21 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | so the supply isn't interrupted between the layoffs and when the shit starts coming in from third world countries | May 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | China is not third world | May 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I travel to the far east this year | May 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Korea, other places | May 21 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, it is for most people who live there from what I understand | May 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | shopping in some countries on the cheap | May 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: which countries? | May 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | name them | May 21 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | in Mexico and China there is a lot of wealth, but the income inequality is staggering | May 21 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | and that's what they're trying to get done here | May 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | May 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | so it depends which class you're in | May 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | wealth and billionaires but also hunger in the same country | May 21 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | I got an offer back in 2006 to go to Canada to help them set up a warehouse and train people to run it | May 21 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | I declined | May 21 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | they ended up shutting down their warehouse here in town and opening one up in Ontario and then a couple years later they closed the one in Ontario and brought the jobs back to the US | May 21 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | but they didn't open their old warehouse here back up, they opened one up in Ohio | May 21 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | you have to wonder if the people running some of these companies even know what they are doing | May 21 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | why would you shut down a perfectly good warehouse that has a high level of automation and is operating very efficiently, move to Canada, change your mind two years later, and open up a new warehouse only about 100 miles from the old one in a state and county with much higher taxes, utility rates, and wage and hour laws? | May 21 14:35 |
| schestowitz | maybe some politician offered concessions | May 21 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | I guess you could maybe argue that it was a better location except that it moves their warehouse about 100 miles in the wrong direction from where most of the stores they are servicing are located | May 21 14:36 |
| schestowitz | It's often how they get things done in "free" trade\ | May 21 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | so now you have higher fuel and truck driver wage costs | May 21 14:36 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, You mean like Amazon's "Don't tax us or we'll move to Ohio" threat to the state of Indiana? | May 21 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 21 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | so Indiana called their bluff, taxed them anyway, and Amazon responded that they decided not to move after all | May 21 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | gee, what a shock | May 21 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | this should happen more | May 21 14:37 |
| MinceR | :) | May 21 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | but before we told them what we were doing, we signed a compact with Illinois, Michigan, Kentucky, and Ohio about what rate we would tax Amazon on should they reside in any of those states | May 21 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | so there was nowhere for them to move where they were going to escape that 7% tax | May 21 14:39 |
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| DaemonFC | the agreement said that any state where Amazon moved to would collect sales taxes at the rate charged by other states in the agreement and forward the money to the appropriate state | May 21 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | so Amazon ended up deciding that there was nowhere to go and stayed put | May 21 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | Amazon complained to the federal government but Congress refused to review the state compact agreement | May 21 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | so it stays in force | May 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: I think MSFT did the same | May 21 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | they whine and thrash about and make threats, but when communities band together and refuse to let them get away with making good on those threats, they fall apart | May 21 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There should be a compact like this in all 50 states, agreeing at what rate they collect tax, and agreeing to enforce other states taxes that are assessed on a business | May 21 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | don't give them anywhere to run | May 21 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | don't let them make threats about killing off jobs if they have to pay their fair share of the tax burden | May 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | it's like price-fixing | May 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | or collusion | May 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | same underlying logic | May 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | distorting competition | May 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | race to the bottom (of tax for corporation) | May 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | and race to the top for costs to the public | May 21 14:44 |
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| schestowitz | as long as politicians are controlled by private money | May 21 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Amazon was getting away, for a long time, with unfair competition with other retailers in Indiana | May 21 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | others had to charge 7% sales tax while Amazon could get away with evasion to make their prices so low that no Indiana retail business could afford to compete with them | May 21 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | and while they were doing this, they had set up a huge distribution center here and tried to use it as blackmail to stay at zero sales tax | May 21 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I'm voting for John Gregg for governor, he said he wouldn't go along with this policy of not starting to collect taxes from Amazon until the middle of 2014 | May 21 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | he said he'd implement the taxes on them on the day he was sworn in as governor | May 21 14:47 |
| DaemonFC | so for that and a few other reasons, he has my vote | May 21 14:47 |
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| DaemonFC | somewhere along the way, the Republicans managed to instruct INDOR to not start collecting taxes on Amazon until July of 2014 | May 21 14:48 |
| DaemonFC | that's crazy | May 21 14:48 |
| MinceR | they could still run to Mexico, couldn't they? :> | May 21 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | as a reward for their illegal behavior they got another two years of being allowed to get away with illegal behavior | May 21 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It wouldn't be a good idea | May 21 14:49 |
| DaemonFC | they might get a lower tax rate there, but it would come at the cost of a lot of bad PR and with fuel prices the way they are, running trucks hundreds or thousands of extra miles is just not an option | May 21 14:50 |
| DaemonFC | there's one good side effect of high fuel prices | May 21 14:51 |
| MinceR | i thought there were tricks to make most of your business appear to happen in a state you do almost nothing in :> | May 21 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | it discourages moving distribution centers to places that are that far away from the region they are servicing | May 21 14:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Indiana's law states that any business with a physical presence here gets taxed here | May 21 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | states are just now realizing that their coffers are running dry and there's no way they can possibly extract more from personal income tax | May 21 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | so they're finally moving to start taxing some of these businesses | May 21 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | there's only so far you can take any particular tax before people either become unwilling to pay it or unable to | May 21 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My dad says he's about fed up with being double dipped by Indiana and Illinois | May 21 14:54 |
| DaemonFC | there's no agreement between the states to only collect income tax where a worker lives | May 21 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | so if you live in one and work in the other, you pay both taxes | May 21 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | so he's getting ready to move to Illinois | May 21 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | and when he leaves Indiana, Indiana not only loses the income tax he was paying but all the other economic activity he was generating for the state's GDP | May 21 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | so policies like this encourage skilled workers to pack up and leave | May 21 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | which is really really stupid | May 21 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | he ended up paying Indiana and Illinois state taxes, plus taxes for the county and city he lives in in Indiana | May 21 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | plus Cook County, Illinois and Chicago | May 21 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | ouch | May 21 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | they're taking such a huge bite out of him, I'd move too | May 21 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | if they were doing that shit to me | May 21 14:57 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, He said he doesn't want to get too far from where his family is in Indiana but he can't afford to stay here and pay Indiana taxes on top of Illinois taxes | May 21 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | so I suggested that he find a nice town to live in on the Illinois side of the border | May 21 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | just a mile or two across the state line | May 21 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | and then he's right next to where he works and only a couple hours away from where his family is | May 21 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, competing state tax policy = FAIL | May 21 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | Michigan charges a 10 cent per can deposit on aluminum cans | May 21 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana doesn't charge a deposit | May 21 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | when I go fishing in Michigan, I take bags of pop cans that I have accumulated over the last year in Indiana | May 21 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 21 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | their collection centers have no way of telling where you bought the can so every can you deposit, it gives you 10 cents | May 21 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | if you take the same cans to a recycling center, you're looking at about half a cent per can | May 21 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | so wait until you go to Michigan and take your cans there | May 21 15:02 |
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| MinceR | :) | May 21 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, last time I went there and put in a few bags of pop cans I ended up with enough money to fund the entire trip | May 21 15:03 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, The price of scrap metal is skyrocketing | May 21 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | especially copper and brass | May 21 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | it has ended up causing break ins of abandoned factories by thieves who just want the metal that is laying around | May 21 15:08 |
| MinceR | so? | May 21 15:08 |
| DaemonFC | also, incidences of grave robbing have been on the rise over the last few years | May 21 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | of course stealing from a corpse shouldn't be a crime | May 21 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | it was their fault for being buried with jewelry made of precious metals and stones | May 21 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | you can't take it with you, but some people sure do try to | May 21 15:10 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | when you have cemeteries full of people who insisted on being buried with several thousand dollars worth of precious metal and stones, you shouldn't be shocked when people go out there to dig up graves | May 21 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | DUH | May 21 15:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 21 15:11 |
| oiaohm | I still suprised no one has got the idea over there of being buried with land mines | May 21 15:12 |
| oiaohm | to give grave robbers a problem. | May 21 15:12 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I made a will instructing that when I die, my body should be disposed of in the least costly method available and that the amount saved from disposing of my corpse should be added to the money that goes to my designated heirs | May 21 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, I have life insurance, I don't want them to be guilt tripped into giving me some $20,000 funeral if they can dispose of the body for a few thousand dollars and keep the rest | May 21 15:13 |
| DaemonFC | hell, if it's legal and cheap, throw me in the city dump | May 21 15:14 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care | May 21 15:14 |
| oiaohm | Historically that was valid | May 21 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | if donating my body to medical science gets you out of the cost of burying me, do that | May 21 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | people have this unhealthy obsession about what will be done to their corpse | May 21 15:15 |
| DaemonFC | if they're dead, then they shouldn't care | May 21 15:16 |
| schestowitz | religious people don't like this | May 21 15:16 |
| schestowitz | They think they hover above their body | May 21 15:16 |
| schestowitz | And then can pretend they won't disintegrate in the grave anyway | May 21 15:16 |
| schestowitz | US is a religious country, cremation is probably more likely for a person to choose than organ donation | May 21 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, they have themselves pumped full of toxic chemicals so they can rot more slowly | May 21 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | as the shit leeches into the ground water and poisons people who are still alive | May 21 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | that should be illegal | May 21 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Steve embalmer | May 21 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | and the amount of land that is used for disposal of bodies is unreasonable | May 21 15:17 |
| oiaohm | Really freese dried. | May 21 15:18 |
| schestowitz | after some generation the bones are swept | May 21 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | a decent sized cemetery takes up enough land to grow crops or something | May 21 15:18 |
| schestowitz | and the space reused for new bones | May 21 15:18 |
| oiaohm | Is one of the best embalm methods. | May 21 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | surely, growing crops on that land is more productive than dumping bodies stuffed with toxic chemicals | May 21 15:18 |
| MinceR | 161758 < schestowitz> Steve embalmer | May 21 15:18 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 15:18 |
| oiaohm | Most embalming methods is to kill deseases in body. | May 21 15:18 |
| schestowitz | the bodies are organic | May 21 15:19 |
| MinceR | 161241 < oiaohm> I still suprised no one has got the idea over there of being buried with land mines | May 21 15:19 |
| schestowitz | the field and graveyard are not contradictory | May 21 15:19 |
| MinceR | it would blow their body apart :> | May 21 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, cremation would kill those | May 21 15:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: there is an expection to that. | May 21 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | and there are non-toxic ways to preserve the body long enough to have a funeral | May 21 15:19 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: ebola. | May 21 15:19 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: Steve Ebola? | May 21 15:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: there are a few desease that can live in the temps of cremation. | May 21 15:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: and evilly ebola is one. | May 21 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm, what is going to live in a fire that is burning at well over 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit? | May 21 15:20 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: virus of ebola basically will use that to go into air to get to another host. | May 21 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Tough evil human killing thing. | May 21 15:21 |
| oiaohm | Does not particularlly like body packed in lime. | May 21 15:22 |
| MinceR | according to wikipedia, the ebola virus does not spread via aerosol | May 21 15:24 |
| MinceR | s/rus/ruses/ | May 21 15:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: not naturally. | May 21 15:24 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: its only if you are stupid enough to burn a ebola body does it go aerosol | May 21 15:24 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 15:25 |
| oiaohm | ebola you have to get to plasma temps to destroy it. General cremation does not get hot enough. | May 21 15:25 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: really you body dispolse should be partly selected by what killed you. | May 21 15:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: ebola and some of the real nasties packed in strong enough lime to disovle your body. | May 21 15:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: freese drying kills a different set of infections. | May 21 15:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: and cremation destroes a different set. | May 21 15:28 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: basically if you wanted to be sure to get the lot freese dry then pack in lime then burn. | May 21 15:29 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: or have worked out a way to drop the body in something equal to the sun. | May 21 15:29 |
| schestowitz | "My antivirus blocked this as a potential threat ?? Oo ?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1631966 | May 21 15:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 15:31 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: one my releations got a flesh eating bacteria here and that tripple hit was mandoray. | May 21 15:32 |
| MinceR | "When in doubt, launch into the sun" | May 21 15:32 |
| MinceR | "Into the fiery orb with ye" | May 21 15:32 |
| MinceR | http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1543-j | May 21 15:32 |
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| oiaohm | MinceR: its the plasma. | May 21 15:32 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: plasma destorys all chemicals in the body. | May 21 15:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Why Freedom of Thought Requires Free Media & Why Free Media Require Free Technology - http://bit.ly/Jrhlgz most important ... | May 21 15:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW - Facebook is down 11.91% to 33.68 US$. #justsayin | May 21 15:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Freedom of Thought Requires Free Media and Why Free Media Require Free Technology - YouTube .::. Size~: 111.63 KB | May 21 15:34 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: just to you understand how scary ebola is they have found it in metal blades that were forged from human blood. That forge temp is way above cremation. | May 21 15:34 |
| MinceR | strange, WP keeps talking about regular sterilization | May 21 15:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Public Domain Review - http://bit.ly/J8x6mq "a bounteous gateway into this whopping plenitude that is the public domain" #pd | May 21 15:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: About | The Public Domain Review .::. Size~: 50.58 KB | May 21 15:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: chemical sterilzation works against it | May 21 15:36 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: this is what I am getting at there is more than one form of sterilization. | May 21 15:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: some things a highly resistant to our normal methods. | May 21 15:37 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: ie solutions of old lime white wash work perfectly. Reacts with the key chemicals in ebola so taking it out. | May 21 15:41 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 15:42 |
| oiaohm | People when they hear sterilization think heat forgeting that is not the only way. | May 21 15:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The case for agile pedagogy http://ur1.ca/9a5ks as opposed to parents-funded #Microsoft indoctrination | May 21 15:44 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The case for agile pedagogy | Teacher Network Blog | Guardian Professional .::. Size~: 125.68 KB | May 21 15:44 |
| schestowitz | techrights at the top of http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/ | May 21 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | "can this be installed or is it going to be updated via Ubuntu's software update?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1635188 | May 21 15:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 15:45 |
| schestowitz | with kernels, safest to wait till distro devs package it properly and test it | May 21 15:45 |
| oiaohm | With Ubuntu yes | May 21 15:47 |
| MinceR | with ubuntu, it's ne. | May 21 15:47 |
| MinceR | with ubuntu, it's never safe :> | May 21 15:47 |
| MinceR | piece of junk dropping keystrokes... | May 21 15:48 |
| oiaohm | With debian and fedora that are prity stock you can build kernel.org without issue. | May 21 15:48 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: really it would be warped to have the blood of my body turned into a some object when I die. | May 21 15:54 |
| MinceR | you don't have to die for that | May 21 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] BSA #Piracy Study: Mere Shadow Boxing? - http://bit.ly/JgKp5z missing the point again | May 21 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote @fsfe Die #Piraten #NRW stellen eine kleine Anfrage im Landtag zu #PDFreaders http://is.gd/hAHusZ | May 21 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ARM Publishes New Universal Linux Graphics Driver http://ur1.ca/9a5l8 #arm #linux #graphics | May 21 15:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Why !fsfe and others depend on !fellows ? See http://ur1.ca/9a5mx #fun | May 21 15:58 | |
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| formic_ | oiaohm - fedora usually has the latest kernel somewhere | May 21 16:04 |
| schestowitz | what for? | May 21 16:05 |
| schestowitz | I mean, let's say it's a 6-month release cycle | May 21 16:05 |
| schestowitz | so if you use the latest and the kernel has 4-month release cycle, then 2 out of 3 times you may be using the latest kernel at time of distro dev | May 21 16:06 |
| schestowitz | and the number of feature in between two kernel releases is very small | May 21 16:06 |
| schestowitz | unless you like experimental things | May 21 16:06 |
| schestowitz | like ext4 some years back, with data-losing bugs | May 21 16:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/txe5t/piracy_and_discount_propaganda_used_to_kick_free/ | May 21 16:11 |
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| schestowitz | " | May 21 16:11 |
| schestowitz | This sort of stuff really pisses me off. | May 21 16:11 |
| schestowitz | My local government is a fucking sucker when it comes to Microsoft (a corrupted sucker that gets to pocket some real money). Countless partnership plans in the $50M to $100M range for sub par services and products that I won't be using anyway. All with my tax dollars. And it's not even an opt-in opt-out deal. Out of nowhere I receive a letter telling me that the government run institution I intern at has subscribed me to such and such | May 21 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft services with my real name and other data.[1] | May 21 16:11 |
| schestowitz | Fuck everything about this! | May 21 16:11 |
| schestowitz | [1] The only data disclosure agreements I signed were to be used explicitly for the national statistics agency. I don't remember signing anything that allows my data to issued over to third party foreign companies. | May 21 16:11 |
| schestowitz | " | May 21 16:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Success for #Chelsea and #ManchesterCity comes at a high price http://goo.gl/rPvLM !football | May 21 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi arrives in #NewZealand http://ur1.ca/9a5ro #nz #linux | May 21 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @reticuleena: Manchmal hat @fefesblog einfach nur recht http://ur1.ca/9a5lj #piraten #geraetehoheit <- Ich arbeite für !fsfe daran! | May 21 16:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Success for Chelsea and Manchester City comes at a high price | Dave Boyle | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 228.09 KB | May 21 16:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "trying to navigate the unknown waters between today’s Wintel PCs and tomorrow’s ARM/Linux tablets." http://ur1.ca/9a5s8 | May 21 16:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: EE Times Confidential | Compal's Tsai: ‘We Have One or Two Years To Prepare for This Shift’ .::. Size~: 19.38 KB | May 21 16:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "society's move away from the concept of "tinkering" with technology." http://ur1.ca/9a5sp result of #drm and no real computer edu | May 21 16:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A good way to get started with #Android development is to take an existing (FOSS) program and hack on it to learn the APIs. | May 21 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux 3.4 Release Has Arrived; Prominent Features Listed http://ur1.ca/9a5t5 Linus: http://ur1.ca/9a5t6 | May 21 16:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The US has basically privatized all kinds of creepy things | May 21 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | they have companies running and probably rigging our elections | May 21 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | they had "defense contractors" running the census | May 21 16:19 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 21 16:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "The next few weeks I want to further explore the #BeagleBoard and embedded Linux" http://ur1.ca/9a5tm #RaspberryP much cheaper | May 21 16:19 | |
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| schestowitz | US is out of control | May 21 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | basically if you vote or respond to the census, then private companies have access to a lot of data on you | May 21 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | taxes too for a while | May 21 16:19 |
| schestowitz | !google putin totally out of control | May 21 16:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - What's Next For The Anti-Putin Protests? - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2012/03/09/whats-next-for-the-anti-putin-protests/ | May 21 16:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - MURDERING THE TRUTH IN RUSSIA PART 1 OF 5 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNo3QoPoEyPA | May 21 16:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - No Place for Putin in New Cabinet if I Become President - Prokhorov ... | http://en.rian.ru/society/20120201/171071650.html | May 21 16:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Save White People!: Vladimir Putin Shows His True Colors | http://www.savewhitepeople.com/2012/05/vladimir-putin-goes-black.html | May 21 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | they tried having the IRS use private collection agencies | May 21 16:20 |
| schestowitz | police also | May 21 16:20 |
| schestowitz | and prisons | May 21 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | and they were giving out all your personal information that they had on you to those companies if you owed taxes | May 21 16:20 |
| schestowitz | penal system privatised | May 21 16:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe they'll do the same with police | May 21 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, the states where the prisons are private and for profit have the highest incarceration rates in the country | May 21 16:20 |
| schestowitz | "I'm a police in disguise working for Police Forces Corp." | May 21 16:20 |
| schestowitz | They'll have competition | May 21 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | and the most severe punishments prescribed by law | May 21 16:21 |
| *oiaohm has quit (Quit: by all) | May 21 16:21 | |
| schestowitz | that which arrests more "brown people" gets the contract | May 21 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, they criminalize things that poor people tend to do | May 21 16:21 |
| schestowitz | arrest Dawn, GDP goes up | May 21 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | that way they can cast a wide net and go fishing | May 21 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | and have the state paying for life sentences for people who stole some video tapes from KMart in the 1990s | May 21 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | California has a woman doing life for that | May 21 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | the law prescribes severe punishments for things like petty theft and a slap on the wrist for white collar criminals who steal millions of dollars from people | May 21 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana has no petty theft law, theft is theft | May 21 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't matter whether you stole a car or a pack of chewing gum | May 21 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | you can do up to 10 years for stealing a pack of chewing gum | May 21 16:23 |
| schestowitz | naaa | May 21 16:24 |
| schestowitz | you can overrule that stuff | May 21 16:24 |
| schestowitz | if you can afford to | May 21 16:24 |
| schestowitz | it's not all set in stone | May 21 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana has a lesser crime of theft called "Conversion", so prosecutors who fear a public backlash or a jury calling bullshit over sentencing petty thieves like that tend to charge them with Conversion | May 21 16:24 |
| DaemonFC | even though the law that describes Conversion basically says it is theft without intent of depriving the rightful owner of their property, it's the only misdemeanor form of theft that Indiana has | May 21 16:25 |
| DaemonFC | so prosecutors misuse it to effectively create a petty theft charge that the law wouldn't otherwise allow | May 21 16:25 |
| MinceR | that does that "conversion" mean? | May 21 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | felonies are an automatic jury trial in Indiana | May 21 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Had 3.4 been called 2.6.44, #linux would be *perceived* as having a lot less novelty http://ur1.ca/9a5v9 | May 21 16:26 | |
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| DaemonFC | so when prosecutors tried felony theft for stealing chewing gum, they effectively had jury nullification | May 21 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | because many jurors had issues with sending a person to prison for 10 years over a pack of gum that costs 50 cents | May 21 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they charge them with misdemeanor Conversion, it's not an automatic jury trial | May 21 16:27 |
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| DaemonFC | and even if the defendant decides to request one, a jury is more likely to send someone to jail for 6 months over that | May 21 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | so it keeps their conviction rate up and makes it easier to prosecute | May 21 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | so the state constitution (for now anyway) keeps a check on what the Indiana legislature tried to do via statute | May 21 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | which is privatize the prisons and send people there for 10 years for stealing chewing gum | May 21 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | I assume that will change as soon as they can convince 51% of the states voters that "tough on crime" should mean 10 years for stealing gum | May 21 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | they won't phrase it like that on the ballot though | May 21 16:29 |
| MinceR | lol | May 21 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That came dangerously close to passing one year | May 21 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | they only tried it once since I've been old enough to vote | May 21 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | I voted against it | May 21 16:29 |
| DaemonFC | I also voted against amending the state constitution to cap property tax on the grounds that it would just cause other taxes to rise instead | May 21 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | it passed though, and I turned out to be correct | May 21 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | it shifts taxes from wealthy land owners onto everyone that buys anything in the state of Indiana | May 21 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | because they ended up upping the sales tax from 6% to 7% to make up for that | May 21 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | we need comprehensive taxation and spending caps | May 21 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | not a pea and shell game of capping one tax that mainly affects wealthier people and raising a tax that is highly regressive in its place | May 21 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | lets see, what else.... | May 21 16:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A case for 'open source' clinical trial data (locked behind a pay wall) http://ur1.ca/9a5wl #openaccess #sharing | May 21 16:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | oh yeah, I voted to throw out several tax court judges that I felt had mistreated taxpayers that brought up a compelling case in court | May 21 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | one of them ended up being removed from the bench | May 21 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 21 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, The governor has tried making the county sheriffs an appointee of the governor instead of an elected office | May 21 16:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] UK science minister explains move to open source http://ur1.ca/9a5wp #uk #australia | May 21 16:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Google Chrome beats Microsoft IE for the first time ever in market share (StatCounter): http://bit.ly/K5kJeL | May 21 16:34 | |
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| DaemonFC | and to get rid of county commissioners and replace them with a much weaker office of someone that rubber stamps everything the governor tells them to do | May 21 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | I voted against that, and it failed to pass by a considerable margin | May 21 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | I guess people aren't always easy to fool | May 21 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | but I did vote to get rid of township tax assessors and move their offices to the county level | May 21 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | that ended up saving the state about $200,000 a year | May 21 16:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I guess voter initiatives are a mixed blessing | May 21 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | if you have a population of mostly stupid people it can go wrong very quickly | May 21 16:37 |
| MinceR | just like democracy | May 21 16:37 |
| DaemonFC | the state government has been trying to strip away what little home rule was allowed to local governments in the first place | May 21 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | and most of those "reforms" have been rejected by the voters | May 21 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | they try to frame it as "modernizing an outdated system" instead of "the state legislature is trying to be your town hall" | May 21 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | the higher up you go, the more detached that level of government is from the public | May 21 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | the more they start dealing in favors and the less they care about what's on your mind | May 21 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | businesses were responsible for that smoking ban | May 21 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | they claimed to be outraged by it but they were the ones pushing for it | May 21 16:43 |
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| DaemonFC | if nobody is allowed to have a smoking section, then nobody is at a disadvantage if people who want to smoke go to another restaurant or bar | May 21 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | you have half the people wanting a smoking section and half of people not wanting one, so you pass a law that says nobody can have one and you stop having to play both sides and everyone just points at the law instead | May 21 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | of course the state having a chance to fine thousands of people every year I'm sure had no part in that | May 21 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | May 21 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/d007a0493e0f4095ab17a6279a8baae9/IN--Indiana-Casinos/ | May 21 16:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Indiana's casino industry at crossroads as revenues decline, out-of-state competition grows | The Republic .::. Size~: 17.2 KB | May 21 16:48 |
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| DaemonFC | people are gambling less, state bitches that the taxes associated with it are down | May 21 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | nobody should be gambling with the kind of odds given by the state lottery system or a casino | May 21 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | they're rigged to take in about $1,000 for every $1 they pay out | May 21 16:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open-source in government can save billions: group http://ur1.ca/9a5z7 #egov | May 21 16:49 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Funny story there though. I did win $50 on a lottery ticket once. | May 21 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | it was because I looked down on the ground and saw a winning ticket someone had scratched off and thrown away | May 21 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | I went into the store and claimed it | May 21 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | I' | May 21 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | I've never actually bought a lottery ticket before though | May 21 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | you hear people say they put in $20 a week on powerball tickets or something. I asked someone how long they had been doing that and if they ever won anything. | May 21 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | she said about 20 years and no | May 21 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | who is that stupid? | May 21 16:52 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Calling #gnu #gimp "Photoshop replacement" is like calling Mercedes "Ford replacement" and Windows "OS/2 replacement" http://ur1.ca/9a5zx | May 21 16:53 | |
| DaemonFC | if she put $20 a week in a bank account for 20 years she could have a hell of a nice car | May 21 16:53 |
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| DaemonFC | paid in cash | May 21 16:53 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 16:53 |
| MinceR | more like "Trabant replacement" | May 21 16:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sony Smartwatch SDK update adds open source music player and puzzle game extensions http://ur1.ca/9a60t #linux #android | May 21 16:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, The US Mint caught on to people using their credit cards to buy dollar coins to get cash back on their cards | May 21 16:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Facebook keeps openwashing itself with "open-source data centre" BS and the press prints and print and prints the #pr nonsense. | May 21 16:59 | |
| DaemonFC | now they charge a $12 processing fee on all orders | May 21 16:59 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | every $1,000 of coins you buy you'd get about $10-15 in cash back on your credit card because it counts as a purchase | May 21 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | so you take the $1,000 in coins to the bank, cash them in, pay the credit card company the balance | May 21 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | and you'd get $10-15 in rewards for having done that | May 21 17:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #facebook overrated? Wall Street says "yes" http://ur1.ca/9a61o | May 21 17:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | so they were getting people racking up hundreds of dollars in rewards each month buying and cashing in those dollar coins in huge US Mint orders | May 21 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | oops :) | May 21 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | one person I saw talking about that claims that one month he went and cashed in his rewards and bought a big screen LED television set with it | May 21 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | :) | May 21 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] maliit on Plasma Active. great work by notmart. much improved input experience as a result. huzzah! http://ur1.ca/9a61g | May 21 17:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Excuse me, I'd like to cash in these pallets of coins.... | May 21 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 21 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | see you tomorrow! | May 21 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | May 21 17:04 |
| schestowitz | k | May 21 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes the government's stupidity is amusing | May 21 17:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook employees are actually "users", who "consume" "content" and "produce" "value" at wage of $0. Clients are marketing companies. | May 21 17:04 | |
| schestowitz | government has no brain | May 21 17:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, when said government has no control over you :> | May 21 17:04 |
| schestowitz | it has people in it | May 21 17:04 |
| schestowitz | they may be stupid | May 21 17:04 |
| schestowitz | but manipulative | May 21 17:04 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: and those people have no brain | May 21 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | back when the state put in those automated speeding ticket cameras, a guy got a ticket in the mail with a picture of his license plate | May 21 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | so he mailed the Indiana State Police back a picture of $150 | May 21 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | so they sent him back a picture of handcuffs | May 21 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | and that's the part where he sent in a check for $150 | May 21 17:07 |
| schestowitz | he should have sent back a photo of a key | May 21 17:07 |
| schestowitz | and then they mail a photo of an uzi | May 21 17:08 |
| schestowitz | and so on... | May 21 17:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] there was some OE work done at some point; not sure how far it got, but it certainly is possible. | May 21 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] yeah, ivan does some pretty awesome things that everyone benefits from. this is going to be rather nifty imho. think of network backup! | May 21 17:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Airport security indeed has not been thought through. bit.ly/JwSnG2 | May 21 17:11 | |
| DaemonFC | I think I'm going to get rid of my PO Box the next time it comes up for renewal | May 21 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | it's been a while since I've gotten any mail that has been worth the trouble for the neighbors to steal | May 21 17:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Linux kernel 3.4 out, the quickest release in Linux history (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/Jz2waO | May 21 17:13 | |
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| DaemonFC | on the other hand, when I do occasionally shop online, it's nice to know that the package is stored in a locked box at the post office rather than laying out in the open | May 21 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | I'm torn about this, it's an expense but not one I'm entirely confident about cutting | May 21 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | it is security against theft by neighbors and incompetent postal employees sending my mail to people on different streets | May 21 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | what to do? | May 21 17:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Supreme Court Upholds $675,000 File-Sharing Verdict - http://bit.ly/K7UnaK justice? I don't think so (v @howardknopf) #copyright | May 21 17:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | fuck the supreme court | May 21 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | they've been tainted for several years now to the point that they never issue a ruling that is unfavorable to wealthy criminals | May 21 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | the MPAA should be looking inward to find out why their sales suck | May 21 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | they release so many bad movies and remakes of movies that were done better decades ago that it would be hard to make the obscene profit levels they were once getting | May 21 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | even if technology hadn't advanced in the last 20 years, they'd still be in trouble | May 21 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | 10-15 years ago I was going to the movies at least 3-4 times a month, now that's down to maybe 3-4 times a year | May 21 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | and I doubt it could just be me | May 21 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | many movies I have on DVD, I have no interest in buying again on Blu Ray | May 21 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Sign the U.S. Petition to Support Public Access to Publicly Funded Scientific Research - http://goo.gl/zwk9j #OAMonday | May 21 17:21 | |
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| DaemonFC | when the jump was from VHS tape to DVD, the improvement in quality was immediately obvious and pretty compelling and I ended up rebuying at least half my movies to get them on DVD | May 21 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | they're not getting that with Blu Ray, there's very little bump in sales that typically comes from changing formats and selling people movies again | May 21 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | the rental business is thriving because it typically costs just a dollar or two to rent a disc, vs. $20-$25 to buy one | May 21 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | this has led the studios to try to punish movie rental businesses by forcing them into agreements that they won't stock new releases for a month or two | May 21 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | which doesn't result in me going out to buy the disc, rather I just have to wait another month or two to rent it | May 21 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | this is a dying industry that insists on shooting itself to speed up the process | May 21 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | no objection | May 21 17:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 21/5/2012: Linux 3.4 Released, Dream Studio 12.04 http://ur1.ca/9a66h #techrights | May 21 17:24 | |
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| DaemonFC | if all they are contributing to society are lousy movies and million dollar rulings against college students, then they deserve to fail | May 21 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1635535 | May 21 17:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 17:27 |
| schestowitz | Facebook is in decline, the same way Myspace eventually sunk into my-band-page oblivion. Social networking was not invented by Facebook or Myspace. Social networking goes all the way back to the BBS days, and over the years trends/phases come and go. It's the way of the internet. Progress on the internet is incomparably faster than progress in traditional industrial sectors. | May 21 17:27 |
| schestowitz | I think Zuckerberg knows this, and the IPO is his exit-strategy. | May 21 17:27 |
| schestowitz | " | May 21 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | "Oh, it just went up 00.02!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1635465 | May 21 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 17:28 |
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| DaemonFC | Ubuntu froze a beta version of Catalyst 12.4 for a long term support release | May 21 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | which has severe bugs that crash the X server which were fixed in the actual Catalyst 12.4 release | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz | "@Bugs Bane That is very true. Recipe for #dystopia, if you ask me." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1634459 | May 21 17:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | do they package the fixed version? of course not | May 21 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | jono, !!!!!! | May 21 17:29 |
| schestowitz | "Rather it'll appear in Debian sooner." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1635188 | May 21 17:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | grrrr | May 21 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | so now I get to download AMD's bundle and build my own Ubuntu packages out of it | May 21 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | their quality control seems to be pretty lax for something calling itself a Long Term Stable | May 21 17:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People whose whole (virtual) life is #facebook wnt2think it's more influenctial than it really is. They invested in FB&got what they deserve | May 21 17:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, How much would YOU pay for this personal information devouring tool of law enforcement, pedophiles, potential employers, and stalkers? | May 21 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | WAIT just one minute before you answer! | May 21 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | May 21 17:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chris Dodd Says MPAA Is On The Wrong Track; We Agree - http://bit.ly/K5sotv but is it a trick? | May 21 17:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Creepy international treaty that could affect the Internet? Yeah, we're fighting it. https://eff.org/r.4abs #WCIT | May 21 17:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I ended up sending MyLife about 1,000 copies of my removal request | May 21 17:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tune in now! What the World Bank's Open Access Policy Means for Development - http://goo.gl/b33aT #wblive #openaccess | May 21 17:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] GitHub provides a graphical client Windows developers (InfoWorld): http://bit.ly/KsgaJ8 | May 21 17:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | and got a reply stating that they have agreed to remove me | May 21 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | looks like Intelius got sick of me calling them, emailing them, and faxing them | May 21 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | they kept refusing my request so I sent them 100 copies of my opt out request fax | May 21 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | and a certified mail letter | May 21 17:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] *yawn* 'ood mr0nin'! freshly-baked source tarballs of !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.4-gnu are now served. enjoy! | May 21 17:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre webpages will be out of date for a few hours; gotta go out for some errands | May 21 17:44 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: ha | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz | sounds like how I can deal with one business partner | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz | not client | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz | if they ignore, double the amount of mail each time | May 21 17:52 |
| schestowitz | at some stage they realise ignoring is the HARDER solution | May 21 17:53 |
| schestowitz | re FB: "I hope it gets to 0, quickly" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1635465 | May 21 17:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Last evening in Dubai. Wonderful food and a bavarian beer! Paulaner Helles :-) http://ur1.ca/9a6bx... http://b1t.it/buMD | May 21 17:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kick-starting the School of Data! - http://bit.ly/KDpitP exciting #opendata #datawrangling | May 21 17:56 | |
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| schestowitz | http://steveblank.com/2012/05/21/why-facebook-is-killing-silicon-valley/ | May 21 17:57 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patentable Subject Matter: Supreme Court Challenges Chief Judge Rader's Broad Notion of Software Patentability - http://bit.ly/MbphiW nice | May 21 17:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anti-Piracy Outfits Launch Attack on BitTorrent Protocol - http://bit.ly/MAGTY9 nasty, maybe illegal | May 21 17:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Anti-Piracy Outfits Launch Attack on BitTorrent Protocol | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.27 KB | May 21 17:59 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Kate Savage http://ur1.ca/9a6dl | May 21 18:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Public notice: You don't need to ask permission to share my… .::. Size~: 166.97 KB | May 21 18:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: if your "friend" stops logging into Facebook, is that person still a friend? :-) | May 21 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | no, he is a traitor | May 21 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57438161-504083/dharun-ravi-sentenced-to-30-days-in-jail-for-rutgers-spycam-trial/ | May 21 18:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dharun Ravi sentenced to 30 days in jail for Rutgers Tyler Clementi spycam case - Crimesider - CBS News .::. Size~: 86.89 KB | May 21 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | drive someone to kill themselves and get 30 days in jail | May 21 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | they should deport this piece of shit back to India when he gets out | May 21 18:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: oh, I see | May 21 18:09 |
| schestowitz | a traitor to Mark f***berg? | May 21 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57437324-504083/boxers-or-briefs-idaho-man-robs-coffee-shop-disguised-in-underwear-mask/?tag=re1.channel | May 21 18:10 |
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| formic_ | prurigro | May 21 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57438348-93/why-facebooks-stock-is-tanking/ | May 21 18:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Facebook's stock is tanking | Internet & Media - CNET News .::. Size~: 82.06 KB | May 21 18:11 |
| schestowitz | "Don't understand. OS/2 warp was stable already while the Windows releases of that time where a pain in the b%&§. OS/2 had a much better memory management than the MS DOS at that time. BTW, used Novell DOS which was unrivaled by MS." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1635504 | May 21 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 18:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] We must take back control of our food, before it's too late http://goo.gl/PtZss | May 21 18:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: We must take back control of our food, before it's too late | Matthew Herbert | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 261.51 KB | May 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Don't understand - Ford has a certification regarding non-allergic interiors. I'm not aware Mercedes has the same - and if one was allergic to that cocktails of solvents and softeners in the plastics used, this should be perceived as an advantage. And whether it's a Ford or a Mercedes, both may transport 75 kg of human from a to b." | May 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yeah | May 21 18:13 |
| schestowitz | I'm starting to like this IPO :-) | May 21 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | it fell more than 25% right away | May 21 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | that's hilarious | May 21 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:FB | May 21 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | yeah | May 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | from 5 or so to 33 | May 21 18:15 |
| schestowitz | *45 | May 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | very different from post-IPO GOOG | May 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | 2003 IIRC | May 21 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #TonyBlair to keep Scotland in the union? #Labour must be in denial http://goo.gl/3IA69 | May 21 18:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tony Blair to keep Scotland in the union? Labour must be in denial | Mike Small | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 206.79 KB | May 21 18:16 |
| schestowitz | "It's on a total high fly right now." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1635465 | May 21 18:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a Diaspora post? | May 21 18:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @evan even if you block the user who created the poll, you still receive a million messages from everyone else "voted for blah", etc. | May 21 18:21 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] At first thought, I would probably say no. They should be free to leave anywhere they want to leave though. If they can find a place. | May 21 18:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Repression's little helper: Swedish telecom #Teliasonera caught helping authoritarian regimes spy on their citizens https://eff.org/r.a8bu | May 21 18:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Think how you can negate the downsides before thinking "Yes" is the obvious answer. It would be nice if yes could be the answer. | May 21 18:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear fellow #ENFP, I notice that a lot of you seemingly hide their laughs. Some of your profile pix are so totally ser... http://b1t.it/buNd | May 21 18:29 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.wsfx.com/story/18567254/minister-shot-to-death-at-church | May 21 18:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Monday's security updates http://ur1.ca/9a6jl | May 21 18:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] 5 Pop Culture Classics Created Out of Laziness http://www.cracked.com/article_18530_5-pop-culture-classics-created-out-laziness.html | May 21 18:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9a6l2 | May 21 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The best way to curtail drone surveillance in the US? Contact your *local* government. It's already working: https://eff.org/r.a8br | May 21 18:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linux kernel 3.2.18 released http://ur1.ca/9a6qy | May 21 19:01 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | May 21 19:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Net neutrality is in, ISP wiretapping and "voluntary three strikes" plans are out, thanks to a new Dutch law. https://eff.org/r.a8bv | May 21 19:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Raising money to free classic volume on Africa's oral literature - http://bit.ly/JhEEVc exciting & worthy | May 21 19:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Raising money to free classic volume on Africa's oral literature - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 37.99 KB | May 21 19:19 |
| XFaCE | good on you dutch | May 21 19:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Survey: Open Source Adoption Rises, Drives Innovation https://t.co/C6VfMcl7 via @linuxfoundation | May 21 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [self-RT] #openaccess to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research - http://bit.ly/K56ZR6 v important US epetition | May 21 19:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "(add-to-list 'package-archives '("marmalade" . "http://ur1.ca/9a6w5"))" http://ur1.ca/4hamc Emacs Lisp Package Repository | May 21 19:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sleepy time. Alarm at 4:00. Limo to airport at 4:30. Boarding at 7:00. Back in Munich at 12:15. Call me Well Done alre... http://b1t.it/buOt | May 21 19:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian Oil Sand Refused Us Access, So We Rented This Plane http://identi.ca/url/69904438 | May 21 19:53 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/93878533 | May 21 20:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Monday, 21-May-12 18:54:39 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz : one day somebody should write about #LibreOffice Draw being never advertised despite its pressive featureset #inkscape :-) | May 21 20:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Jak polityk nie ma argumentów, używa "pornografii dziecięcej": bit.ly/Jj7fNn | May 21 20:08 | |
| scientes | uggghh | May 21 20:10 |
| scientes | php is a crock full of shit | May 21 20:11 |
| scientes | you can't patch this stuff | May 21 20:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] voted for "Richard Stallman" | May 21 20:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A wonderful song from #blastofthepast: Sin with Sebastian "Shut up and sleep with me". | May 21 20:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Techdirt Threatened With Suit Over Story On Feds Getting Royalty In Movie From Mexican Drug Cartel Money Launderer - http://bit.ly/Kg8Guz | May 21 20:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @cwebber @FONTANAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA http://ur1.ca/9a743 #CC0 #kahn | May 21 20:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #blastfromthepast - who is this?"Wonderful Days lyricsI found a love, but it didn't lastWonderful days belong to the p... http://b1t.it/buO1 | May 21 20:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.2.18-gnu sources are now available | May 21 20:29 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | May 21 20:33 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | May 21 20:33 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | May 21 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I want to have dinner with +Nicci Moon. Howto? :-) | May 21 20:34 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | May 21 20:51 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry – watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom | May 21 20:51 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Wed Sep 22 21:19:38 2010 | May 21 20:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 104 dents! | May 21 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] So AirBnB uses Nginx: "502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.0.14" http://www.airbnb.com | May 21 21:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bank runs: Corralitos coming to #Greece and #Spain? - YouTube http://goo.gl/53xtm #collapse #euro | May 21 21:26 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bank runs: Corralitos coming to Greece and Spain? - YouTube .::. Size~: 108.35 KB | May 21 21:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Nasdaq's Facebook glitch, which came from race conditions, may cost the exchange $13 million (Computerworld): http://bit.ly/K5bDgv | May 21 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Require free access over the Internet to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research. http://goo.gl/XajKg | May 21 21:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nasdaq's Facebook glitch came from 'race conditions' - Computerworld .::. Size~: 126.55 KB | May 21 21:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #EU: Preparing for an Economic #Collapse - YouTube http://goo.gl/t3vNi #preppers | May 21 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Ações do Facebook caem 13% no segundo dia na bolsa http://goo.gl/8c3v3 LOL.... #facebroke | May 21 21:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Facebook fecha segundo dia em bolsa a cair mais de 10%- Empresas - Jornal de negócios http://goo.gl/L4lVv #facebroke | May 21 21:43 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TeK > Notícias > Negócios > Ações do Facebook caem 13% no segundo dia na bolsa .::. Size~: 45.77 KB | May 21 21:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] the new style is rather hideous imho. from "meh" to "omg. seriously?" :/ | May 21 22:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Nmap 6 released http://ur1.ca/9a8b9 | May 21 22:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] SCOTUS refuses to hear the Tenenbaum file-sharing case, letting stand a $675k fine for 30 tracks https://eff.org/r.1abw | May 21 22:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Supreme Court Lets Stand $675,000 File-Sharing Verdict | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 58.77 KB | May 21 22:16 |
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| *DaemonFC is tired now | May 21 22:20 | |
| MinceR | what's that about? | May 21 22:22 |
| *DaemonFC mopped and buffed the floors | May 21 22:23 | |
| DaemonFC | ugggh | May 21 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | I need to hire one of those mexicans | May 21 22:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernels 3.0.32 and 3.3.7 http://ur1.ca/9a8iu | May 21 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @pete Clint Eastwood on gay marriage http://ur1.ca/9a1bl !glbt | May 21 22:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Stable kernels 3.0.32 and 3.3.7 [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.53 KB | May 21 22:26 |
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| MinceR | to take your job? :> | May 21 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | yep | May 21 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | I work for free though (housework anyway) | May 21 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | but they work for like 10 cents an hour | May 21 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I could swing that | May 21 22:27 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 22:27 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | May 21 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | doh! | May 21 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Check out @unglueit: crowd-funding to free existing books via #CC licenses! http://unglue.it @boingboing article: http://bit.ly/KfyHZd | May 21 22:28 | |
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| MinceR | our nazis blocked abortion pills from state-operated hospitals | May 21 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't call Plan B an abortion pill | May 21 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | of course idiots who want to claim that life begins at arousal would | May 21 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS PUTTING FLUORIDE IN YOUR DRINKING WATER TO KILL YOUR LIVING THINKING SPERM AND TO STERILIZE YOUR TESTICLES!!!! | May 21 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | -Dan Halen, Squidbillies | May 21 22:36 |
| MinceR | i'm not talking about Plan B, though | May 21 22:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Liberated Pixel Cup funding a success! http://ur1.ca/8swpk Mozilla announces they have joined the party! http://ur1.ca/9a5y2 | May 21 22:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: About the Liberated Pixel Cup | Liberated Pixel Cup .::. Size~: 15.4 KB | May 21 22:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mozilla supports the Liberated Pixel Cup for open games ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog .::. Size~: 29.38 KB | May 21 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'd have serious reservations about calling a fertilized embryo a human life | May 21 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | once you go there, what isn't? | May 21 22:38 |
| MinceR | so would i | May 21 22:38 |
| MinceR | but the nazis don't | May 21 22:38 |
| MinceR | s/do/would/ | May 21 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | how far can you take the stupidity? | May 21 22:39 |
| MinceR | we'll see | May 21 22:39 |
| MinceR | hungary is an experiment in just that | May 21 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | once you call a fertilized embryo a human life, the next stop is "everyone who isn't spending all day every day fucking is committing mass murder" | May 21 22:39 |
| MinceR | we'll see how much stupidity it takes to kill most human life in a country | May 21 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | but then so is everyone who is spending all day fucking because a lot of sperm and eggs will still go to waste | May 21 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> hungary is an experiment in just that | May 21 22:40 |
| MinceR | (via starvation, disease, crime and civil war) | May 21 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | sounds like Missouri only even they aren't that stupid | May 21 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | it made it onto the ballot there to call a fertilized embryo a human life and the voters there rejected it | May 21 22:40 |
| MinceR | orban might as well tell the IMF "we don't want any loans from you, ever!" and get on with it already | May 21 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | that ought to tell you how fucking stupid that is, when a state full of uneducated backwater hicks won't sign off on that | May 21 22:41 |
| MinceR | ("it" being the collapse of the economy and the state, of course) | May 21 22:41 |
| MinceR | those hicks probably have more of a clue about what democracy is than the average hungarian citizen | May 21 22:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Introductory ebook for new LPI exam released - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/kvHH8 #lpic #gnulinux #books http://ur1.ca/9a8o9 | May 21 22:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Introductory ebook for new LPI exam released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.85 KB | May 21 22:43 |
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| DaemonFC | it even came up in Mississippi too and they rejected it | May 21 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | that's even better than Missouri voters defeating it | May 21 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | I figured that would pass in Mississippi | May 21 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much all you have to do is tell them Jesus wants things that way and they go for it | May 21 22:43 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | look at what happened in those states after Brown v. Board of Education | May 21 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Though the south is slowly changing | May 21 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | jobs head that way, northerners follow them | May 21 22:46 |
| MinceR | why are jobs going that way? | May 21 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | all of a sudden you have things like competitive elections and some laws that make sense | May 21 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | manufacturing mostly | May 21 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, A lot of crazy shit is going on lately | May 21 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | foreign companies are buying up our steel industry for example | May 21 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | granted that's better than having the mills close and having nobody working there at all | May 21 22:49 |
| MinceR | chinese? | May 21 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | India | May 21 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | mostly | May 21 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | the reason I heard is that even though labor in the US is more expensive, they get much better productivity here than they do elsewhere | May 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | and so it evens out | May 21 22:51 |
| MinceR | :> | May 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | but soon that won't be the case because we're letting foreigners come here and get advanced degrees and then go home | May 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | so that will be the next wave of the recession | May 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | massive white collar unemployment | May 21 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | the last wave mostly took out blue collar workers | May 21 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | though something that big is guaranteed to hurt almost everyone but the very rich | May 21 22:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] What's new in #Linux 3.4 - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/ZO68o #floss | May 21 22:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] JavaScript #SIP client sipML5 supports audio and video calls - The H http://goo.gl/YLOmN http://www.sipml5.org/ #voip #js @mvalente | May 21 22:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | over the next 10 or 20 years the US is probably going to resemble what the economy of Russia looked like in the 1990s | May 21 22:53 |
| XFaCE | http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/High+speed+Internet+remains+fantasy+many+Canadians/6654367/story.html | May 21 22:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: High-speed Internet remains a fantasy for many Canadians .::. Size~: 130.42 KB | May 21 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE, The US government gives the major ISPs handouts to increase capacity and they give it to their execs as bonuses and spend it on lobbying instead | May 21 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | then impose caps on their existing customers | May 21 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | it could get worse up there you know ;) | May 21 22:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Meet the $70 USB ‘Minority Report’ Device More Accurate Than Kinect http://goo.gl/kWeLn #hardware...wow!!! vi@mvalente | May 21 22:54 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Meet the $70 USB ‘Minority Report’ Device More Accurate Than Kinect .::. Size~: 34.35 KB | May 21 22:54 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: I'm retty sure Canada is worse by default | May 21 22:55 |
| XFaCE | though when it comes to Internet, the US and Canada is like a choice between shit and piss | May 21 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | well, if it's not as corrupt at the US government is, it is surely getting there | May 21 22:55 |
| XFaCE | We are more corrupt DaemonFC | May 21 22:57 |
| XFaCE | The control of the telecommunication industry falls to a few oligopolies | May 21 22:58 |
| XFaCE | that have massive political and economic influence | May 21 22:58 |
| XFaCE | When it comes to punishing fraud, Canada's efforts are non-existant | May 21 22:58 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: More often that not, the fraudsters will be punished in the US long before Canada lifts a finger | May 21 22:59 |
| XFaCE | see Nortel, Conrad Black, et. al. | May 21 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | George W. Bush's policy of dealing with Medicare billing fraud was to let the fraudsters enjoy their loot | May 21 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | I guess Obama has at least cracked down on that | May 21 23:00 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: That put things in perspective | May 21 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | they still let the telecoms get away with murder | May 21 23:00 |
| XFaCE | When Canada still loses to the US in combating fraud, there's a problem | May 21 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | in exchange for letting them spy on everyone all the time | May 21 23:00 |
| MinceR | gn | May 21 23:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks Ubuntu To Ship on 5% of All PCs Sold Next Year “We sell millions of PCs with HP, Lenovo, Dell, A http://ur1.ca/9a8qb | May 21 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks Ubuntu To Ship on 5% of All PCs Sold Next Year “We sell millions of PCs with HP, Lenovo, Dell, A http://ur1.ca ... | May 21 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Learn how the Open Course Library's public speaking course met course standards w/#OER, tomorrow: http://bit.ly/JFFIVd #CC BY | May 21 23:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] More constitutional doubt about #ACTA, now from former ass't AG Jack Goldsmith https://eff.org/r.a9bx | May 21 23:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag &Happy Victoria Day !identiverse http://identi.ca/attachment/69908571 | May 21 23:14 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] @EFF's @evacide guest posts in @pressfreedom's journalists' security blog. Don't Get Your Sources in #Syria Killed https://eff.org/r.1aby | May 21 23:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jerezim: ♻ @eff More constitutional doubt about #ACTA, now from former ass't AG Jack Goldsmith https://eff.org/r.a9bx | May 21 23:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] RT @dbd Publishers and activists come together to say NO to DRM on ebooks -- http://www.defectivebydesign.org/dayagainstdrm2012 #dayagai ... | May 21 23:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @dbd Publishers and activists come together to say NO to DRM on ebooks -- http://identi.ca/url/69908975 #dayagai ... | May 21 23:38 | |
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