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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's @txitua & @ByRebeccaBowe in @AJEnglish on Latin America's expanding US-funded surveillance infrastructure https://eff.org/r.a6bzMay 22 00:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How the US fuels Latin America's surveillance technology - Opinion - Al Jazeera English .::. Size~: 120.81 KBMay 22 00:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwbio: #Computers #Without #Borders group is born on identi! http://ur1.ca/9a2w3 Join us to get action on Free Computers Solutions! #FSFMay 22 00:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Computers Without Borders (cwb) group - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 28.76 KBMay 22 00:29
DaemonFCMinceR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BlJRtsQrgoMay 22 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Squidbillies: Life Begins at Arousal       - YouTube .::. Size~: 144.88 KBMay 22 00:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @eff More constitutional doubt about #ACTA, now from former ass't AG Jack Goldsmith https://eff.org/r.a9bxMay 22 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @wikimedia WMF Grants Program approves "Philippine WikiCon 2012," awarded to Wikimedia Philippines: http://ur1.ca/9a8veMay 22 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawfare › The Doubtful Constitutionality of ACTA as an Ex Ante Congressional-Executive Agreement .::. Size~: 40.94 KBMay 22 00:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Grants:WM PH/Philippine WikiCon 2012 - Meta .::. Size~: 45.59 KBMay 22 00:39
formic_daemonfc - that video won't workMay 22 00:39
formic_no flash for openindianaMay 22 00:40
formic_ur lameMay 22 00:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] If the Statue of Liberty was built today... bit.ly/LvZOUP #USAMay 22 00:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @dbd Publishers and activists come together to say NO to DRM on ebooks -- http://ur1.ca/9a8xb #dayagai ...May 22 00:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Publishers and activists come together to say NO to DRM on ebooks | Defective by Design .::. Size~: 22.88 KBMay 22 00:41
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=iNmGt4lDklAMay 22 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Squidbillies: Butthole Airbags       - YouTube .::. Size~: 112.96 KBMay 22 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] RT @ggreenwald Important: the key to stopping domestic drones may be activism at the local/municipal level http://is.gd/Gr4mQnMay 22 00:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Local Governments Have the Power to Restrict Drone Surveillance in the US | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 38.75 KBMay 22 00:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Linux accessibility what is it and why does it matter http://goo.gl/aBmTe The State of Linux Accessibility (BLIND user) http://goo.gl/DoFiVMay 22 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. .::. Size~: 144.24 KBMay 22 01:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The State of Linux Accessibility - Slashdot .::. Size~: 232.03 KBMay 22 01:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Guess I got my #badger back! bit.ly/KF6jiK !memes !lolMay 22 01:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tumblr's @McAndrew talks about how the site deals with trolls, and their commitment to free expression https://eff.org/r.a6b2 #nymwarsMay 22 01:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tumblr and trolls: Andrew McLaughlin on how the social network fosters creativity without the mean streak (VIDEO) - Slate Magazine .::. Size~: 96.37 KBMay 22 01:14
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DaemonFChttp://www.courierpress.com/news/2012/may/21/bridge-connecting-new-harmony-ind-and-white-county/May 22 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: UPDATE: Bridge connecting New Harmony, Ind., and White County, Ill., closed » Evansville Courier & Press .::. Size~: 141.51 KBMay 22 01:26
DaemonFCthis is what happens when politicians sacrifice infrastructure spendingMay 22 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Leaving Dubai. Singing Happy Birthday for +Nicole van Rossum :-)May 22 01:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Passport - Check. Ticket Lufthansa - Check. Hotel checkout - check. Limo to airport - check. On my way to Munich!May 22 01:39
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMay 22 01:48
DaemonFCThe criminals on the Supreme Court keep handing the rich business criminals victory after victory. We may not have the most corrupt government that money can buy, yet, but it is getting there. The MAFIAA getting almost a million dollars for a few MP3s underscores how badly our government has failed its citizens.May 22 01:48
DaemonFCThe rich business criminals of the MAFIAA want to pass laws like SOPA and CISPA so that if they can't get the million dollars from some poor college kid, they can send him to prison at taxpayer expense.May 22 01:48
DaemonFCThe solution to this problem is to throw out Congress and replace them with representatives of the American people, and have them proceed to impeach every member of the US Supreme Court and start over.May 22 01:48
DaemonFCThe unjust rulings of the Supreme Court make a mockery of an institution that is designed to make sure that the laws Congress passes are in line with the US Constitution and in the best interests of the American public.May 22 01:48
DaemonFChttp://techland.time.com/2012/05/21/no-supreme-court-relief-for-joel-tenenbaums-675k-fine/May 22 01:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: No Supreme Court Relief for Joel Tenenbaum’s $675K Piracy Fine | Techland | TIME.com .::. Size~: 74.55 KBMay 22 01:49
oiaohmDaemonFC: At least it was not like my home town bridge where they worked out it had a problem when a semi trailer almost went threw it.May 22 01:52
oiaohmAlso I cannot work out what is wrong with the USA towns or how big is that river.May 22 01:53
DaemonFChttp://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2012/0521/Catholic-groups-take-fight-against-Obama-birth-control-rules-to-courtMay 22 01:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Catholic groups take fight against Obama birth-control rules to court - CSMonitor.com .::. Size~: 82.18 KBMay 22 01:54
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMay 22 01:54
DaemonFCA tax-evading criminal cartel organization of child rapists wants more children and is willing to condemn many real, living people to death to save some fictional children.May 22 01:54
oiaohmYes it was annoying not to be able to drive to the other side of town and have to cross by a rope bridge for 6 months to get to the other side of town.May 22 01:54
oiaohmBut it was not a case of no trade.May 22 01:54
oiaohmAnnoying trade May 22 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Heading towards Ubuntu Accomplishments 0.2 - http://is.gd/T7rnmcMay 22 01:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Heading Towards 0.2  |  jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 34.48 KBMay 22 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Don't think so, can you explain your thinking here?May 22 01:58
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DaemonFChttp://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/05/16/suicide_prevention_bill_william_mccrea_s_legislation_would_monitor_web_searches_.htmlMay 22 02:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Suicide Prevention Bill: William McCrea's legislation would monitor Web searches. .::. Size~: 77.33 KBMay 22 02:02
DaemonFCit would be better if assisted suicide was legalMay 22 02:02
DaemonFCmany botched attempts leave people permanently disfigured and disabled and in great painMay 22 02:02
DaemonFCif we're going to accept living in a society where some people are set up to fail, it should be legal for them to decide that giving up is a viable option without having other people judge them for itMay 22 02:03
DaemonFCit would be better if we fixed what was wrong with society, since there's more than enough wealth for everyone on the planet to be fed, clothed, and given an educationMay 22 02:05
DaemonFCit's just being used to murder people and the rest is hoarded by the obscenely richMay 22 02:05
DaemonFC"Get the facts about Comcast", lolMay 22 02:17
DaemonFCFact: They manage to go out more often than my satellite system.May 22 02:17
formic_lolzMay 22 02:18
formic_enjoying the echo chamber?May 22 02:18
DaemonFCFact: After their promos wear off, they charge as much as satellite does for comparable tiers and don't carry as many channelsMay 22 02:18
DaemonFCFact: They give you used 10 year old receivers that are dead slow and full of someone elses dirt and cat hair and which don't work half the timeMay 22 02:19
DaemonFCFact: They oversell their internet service to the point that you get random drop offs in the evening, just like AOL used to treat their dial up customers toMay 22 02:20
DaemonFCFact: They try to make you use Windows to set up your modem because they want to take it over with their crapwareMay 22 02:20
DaemonFCjono wouldn't mind, he got a free copy of Vista.1 May 22 02:21
DaemonFCanyway, Comcast sucks hard and that's a fact :)May 22 02:21
jonolove itMay 22 02:21
jonoso much better than LinuxMay 22 02:22
jonobunch of hippiesMay 22 02:22
jonololMay 22 02:22
DaemonFCCommunists May 22 02:22
DaemonFCnext they'll be using free mental health care as a smoke screen to oppress Windows usersMay 22 02:23
DaemonFCright Comrade jono? :)May 22 02:23
formic_i think communists would love microsoftMay 22 02:23
jonohahaMay 22 02:23
formic_whats more totalitarian than windowsMay 22 02:23
DaemonFCRick SantorumMay 22 02:23
formic_daemonfc - you need to channel your 'energy' into a rant bookMay 22 02:25
formic_you could easily write a chapter on each different thing that bugs youMay 22 02:25
formic_the problem might be making the book short, you might need volumesMay 22 02:26
formic_im sure you could have one volume with several chapters on how bad graphics drivers areMay 22 02:26
formic_I'll be looking for this one: "Free and Open Source Software is so great; that I don't use it" by Ryan FarmerMay 22 02:28
DaemonFCformic_, I'll release Service Packs and eventually tell people to buy the new upgradeMay 22 02:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @dbd: Publishers and activists come together to say NO to DRM on ebooks -- http://ur1.ca/9a8xbMay 22 03:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Publishers and activists come together to say NO to DRM on ebooks | Defective by Design .::. Size~: 22.88 KBMay 22 03:06
XFaCEand House is doneMay 22 03:08
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XFaCEDiablo-D3: hello mon friendMay 22 03:13
XFaCEhow are you?May 22 03:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] -EAGAIN, fork bomb! ♻ @filipesaraiva: Mageia é um fork do Mandriva... e agora Mandriva é um fork do Mageia! http://ur1.ca/9a9flMay 22 03:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dubai Airport, terminal 1. On my way home. http://ur1.ca/9a9u7... http://b1t.it/buTOMay 22 03:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mageia faz um círculo completo | Mageia Blog (Português) .::. Size~: 25.35 KBMay 22 03:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.61 KBMay 22 03:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Dubai Airport, terminal 1. On my way home. .::. Size~: 132.32 KBMay 22 03:14
Diablo-D3XFaCE: tired but I cant go back to sleepMay 22 03:15
XFaCEDiablo-D3: BenedrylMay 22 03:15
XFaCEOr anything similar will do the trickMay 22 03:15
XFaCEGravol, etc.May 22 03:16
XFaCESame basic thingMay 22 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] it looks like all of us FS activists at !fsfla are too busy promoting FS to tend to FSFLA properMay 22 03:16
XFaCEDiablo-D3: HTHMay 22 03:17
Diablo-D3=|May 22 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] but then, isn't “promoting FS” what !FSFLA members are supposed to do anyway? :-) what now?May 22 03:18
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XFaCEDiablo-D3: I'm seriousMay 22 03:20
Diablo-D3=|May 22 03:20
XFaCEIf you have trouble sleeping, that's the quickest way to reliefMay 22 03:20
XFaCEI'm not saying take it every night :SMay 22 03:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] hmm... I guess what's missing is that we're supposed to do that *together*, in a coordinated fashion, to make us all strongerMay 22 03:23
Diablo-D3=|May 22 03:23
XFaCEWhy the long emoticon?May 22 03:23
Diablo-D3=|May 22 03:25
XFaCETurn that frown around!May 22 03:26
*XFaCE facepalmsMay 22 03:26
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Diablo-D3|=May 22 03:31
XFaCE'_'May 22 03:32
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AdmFubar_:) hi all, found this at CIO.com http://www.cio.com/article/706807/Education_Group_Schools_Need_100_Mbps_Per_1_000_Broadband_Users?source=rss_all&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cio%2Ffeed%2Farticles+%28CIO.com+Feed+-+Articles%29   check out the soncers page.. ;)May 22 03:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Education Group: Schools Need 100 Mbps Per 1,000 Broadband Users                               CIO.com .::. Size~: 137.41 KBMay 22 03:49
AdmFubar_later allMay 22 03:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/05/18/financial/f141642D12.DTLMay 22 03:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kraft Foods lowers prices on select coffee .::. Size~: 117.57 KBMay 22 03:55
DaemonFCwho says there's never any good news? :)May 22 03:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] looking forward to using http://piwik.org/ for the sites I run. FOSS ftw! #fb #inMay 22 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scholastic Books did Columbine http://identi.ca/url/69913059May 22 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Anonymous leaks 1.7 GB of data and email from the U.S. Bureau of Justice http://identi.ca/url/69905390 !eff !fsfMay 22 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from NBC Bay Area http://ur1.ca/9a9zzMay 22 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Techdirt Threatened With Defamation Suit http://identi.ca/url/69913383May 22 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] what a busy day! !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.3.7-gnu and 3.0.32-gnu sources are now available tooMay 22 04:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Piwik - Web analytics - Open source .::. Size~: 22.04 KBMay 22 04:24
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: AnonNews.org : Everything Anonymous .::. Size~: 12.63 KBMay 22 04:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - An executive at a Palo Alto software giant was charged… .::. Size~: 135.93 KBMay 22 04:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techdirt Threatened With Defamation Suit Over Story On Feds Getting Royalty In Movie From Mexican Drug Cartel Money Launderer | Techdirt .::. Size~: 170.42 KBMay 22 04:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk My Ontario English Canadian schools taught France French, not Québécois French (illustrative of lack of bi-lingualism commitment)May 22 04:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I think the point is the real world doesn't *have* to make sense (and frequently doesn't) … "Inconceivable!" ~ The Princess Bride !qMay 22 04:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @mbjunior @mlinksva Perhaps you just want to call *oppression* a fancy name like, say, competition.May 22 05:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @lnxwalt Couldn't help but to make it all over againMay 22 05:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Local accomplishments demo in Ubuntu Accomplishments 0.2 - http://is.gd/M8lGsE #ubuntuMay 22 05:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] The number of times I have switched CDs during installation! I should just be a DJ!May 22 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good Morning @the lovebug, you toos @kevie @giammi @ml2mst @chalkahlom @theru @inscius @laineyg @mcnalu @sandersch @expatpaul @moosicalMay 22 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Good Morning @thelovebug, you toos @kevie @giammi @ml2mst @chalkahlom @theru @inscius @laineyg @mcnalu @sandersch @expatpaul @moosicalMay 22 08:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NVIDIA Issues New 302 Linux Beta http://ur1.ca/9abfn #linuxMay 22 08:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] NVIDIA Issues New 302 Linux Beta .::. Size~: 17.37 KBMay 22 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How fresh is the dew: ROSA 2012 Marathon? http://ur1.ca/9abgw #gnu #linuxMay 22 08:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How fresh is the dew: ROSA 2012 Marathon? - Linux notes from DarkDuck .::. Size~: 134.56 KBMay 22 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark Shuttleworth Interview for #Ubuntu 12.10 http://ur1.ca/9abhxMay 22 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mark Shuttleworth Interview for Ubuntu 12.10 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 46.17 KBMay 22 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Rob Weir explains the #OpenOffice resurrection | #Interview http://ur1.ca/9abj8 #ibm #odfMay 22 08:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rob Weir explains the OpenOffice resurrection | Interview | Unixmen .::. Size~: 87.19 KBMay 22 08:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @rvdwalle Amai. Ik hang ergens in de 2000. Zal dit jaar beginnen trainen & volgend jaar doen we een http://ur1. ...May 22 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @openOV baseline? Heb je het over je laatste mailtje?May 22 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @blackskad allemaal leugensMay 22 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google #Chrome Becomes World's No. 1 Web Browser; Still No. 2 In US http://ur1.ca/9abkq with seminal work by #KDE (KHMTL)May 22 08:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Chrome Becomes World's No. 1 Web Browser; Still No. 2 In US - International Business Times .::. Size~: 93.45 KBMay 22 08:36
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Diablo-D3t minus 4 minutes until launch: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.htmlMay 22 08:41
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schestowitzcoolMay 22 08:41
schestowitzcan't load up videoMay 22 08:42
schestowitzin rekonqMay 22 08:42
Diablo-D3rekonq sucksMay 22 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Perl 5.16.0 now available http://ur1.ca/9ablo #programmingMay 22 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Perl 5.16.0 now available http://ur1.ca/9ablo #programmingMay 22 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Microsoft's got a new #SocNet, so.cl. From the company that uploads unknown data every time you turn your computer on. Not for me.May 22 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Hey thereMay 22 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] China Says Yes to Google/Motorola Deal: Now What? http://ur1.ca/9abp6 #china #androidMay 22 08:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "We are pleased to present our first release of #siduction in 2012." http://ur1.ca/9abq8 #debian #gnu #linuxMay 22 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Release Notes for siduction 2012.1  Desperado :: siduction.org :: debian based live cd development .::. Size~: 16.85 KBMay 22 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft-'derived' company #blackduck quacks, so-called 'analysts' base their prediction on the alleged GPL 'decline' http://ur1.ca/9abxoMay 22 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] AlertMe’s ‘huge’ UK gas deal: big data for real people - http://bit.ly/LxgzyL interesting, but I wonder about the #privacy implicationsMay 22 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] zoowar Imagine reading L'étranger in slow motion with Google Translate... my French isn't *nearly* that good :(May 22 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 451 CAOS Theory » Back to the future of commercial open source .::. Size~: 42.6 KBMay 22 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AlertMe’s ‘huge’ UK gas deal: big data for real people — European technology news .::. Size~: 70.61 KBMay 22 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scepticism about claims (of anyone) does not make one unreasonable or mean. It's lack of scepticism that helps wars, lies, etc.May 22 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Black Duck - is self-fulfilling prophecy the mission statement? That's what Microsoft did to #Linux for ages...May 22 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 2009 (just before the GPL FUD from Black Duck): Microsoft Bridges CodePlex with Black Duck Open Source Repository http://ur1.ca/9abyd #gnuMay 22 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #System76 Releases Gazelle Professional Ubuntu Laptop http://ur1.ca/9abyl #gnu #linux #ubuntuMay 22 09:13
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schestowitz""Expansion". ;-)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1629290May 22 09:13
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?May 22 09:13
schestowitzAny numbers out there about the growtth of Canonical (staff/revenue)?May 22 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !CDNpoli http://identi.ca/attachment/69918819May 22 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !C11 !CDNpoli !Canada http://identi.ca/attachment/69918818May 22 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ARM steps up war of words with a criminal company http://ur1.ca/9ac08 about Intel: http://ur1.ca/4qw0fMay 22 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Disassembling Android Part 2: Who Wields the Blowtorch? http://ur1.ca/9ac22 #androidMay 22 09:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] !sr Is there a Portuguese speaker who can take a look at this profile? http://ur1.ca/8ross Maybe #silencedByMistake?May 22 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZTE admits to backdoor in one of its #Android devices http://ur1.ca/9ac2h people should demand the source code. #chinaMay 22 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Not hardly: ♻ @lbryvxn !Copyright Lobbyists Don't Necessarily Represent Bands |http://www.ur1.ca/9ac2g /via @CrosbieMay 22 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google to close Motorola Mobility deal by Wednesday http://ur1.ca/9ac2x #android #china #motorolaMay 22 09:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @iaminigomontoya "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."May 22 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: And I thought my robotic vaccuum was advanced! #EU funded robotic fish on pollution patr http://p.ost.im/p/etJPGBMay 22 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Restricting cashflow is now violence: bit.ly/Lxn9FGMay 22 09:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source trains people in "Spreading Democracy" http://ur1.ca/9ac6kMay 22 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Spread communism" - make the USSR the world's superpower; "Spread democracy" - make the USA the world's superpower; both about controlMay 22 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Baptist University's Anti-Gay Pledge Causes Faculty To Quit In Droves http://ur1.ca/9ac70 in a very religious country, the USMay 22 09:48
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schestowitzMinceR: ^May 22 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Best Programming Text Editor for Linux http://ur1.ca/99na3 #kate listed at the top and I agree, it's the best. #kdeMay 22 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Nobody likes student protests in Quebec; especially, quelle surprise, the government: bit.ly/Lxooo7May 22 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can Samsung and Intel’s mobile OS compete with Android? http://ur1.ca/9ac7k only with app compatibility, like aliendalvik and same for TizenMay 22 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft #mole #elop assassinated #nokia almost on the very same week #meego got #android compatibolity w/ aliendalvik. #knifeThebBabyMay 22 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] BSA: "half of PC users are using pirated software" - obviously the solution is to use !freesoftware ;) bit.ly/Lxpal1May 22 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's a crime to kill a person (homocide), but not a crime to assassinate a company, leaving ~50,000 families out of work/income (in part)May 22 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "If the majority of the population breaks the law, there is a problem with the law" !q Jessified @ SlashdotMay 22 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's OK to violate Julian Assange's privacy for exposing corporate crime,but SCOTUS says corporations are people too,we defend their privacyMay 22 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Jeśli stare modele biznesowe upadną nie będzie wolnej prasy" - kocham argumenty biznesu! :) #WarsztatyMAiCMay 22 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] the psychological implications of using "accomplishments" for non-games is pretty shocking imho. i wonder who has thought that bit through.May 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kill person, go to jail (or electric chair); kill thousands, get bad reputation http://ur1.ca/7x4e6May 22 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i'm going to assume that's a europianized version of the term "limo"; i18n_us would make it "town car". but i'm sure jan will confirm :)May 22 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] cool! :) where is the presentation at? (best of luck, and thanks for helping spread the love!)May 22 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Whitney Houston dies, millions sob. Bradley Manning arrested, people call for his head (singing >> exposing corruption).May 22 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five Reasons to be excited about Linux Mint 13 – LTS, MATE, and more http://ur1.ca/9aca1 #linuxmint #gnu #linuxMay 22 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Bez silnego prawa autorskiego Internet będzie tylko śmietnikiem" #WarsztatyMAiCMay 22 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The True Costs of Bank Crises http://ur1.ca/9acc4 societal costs; they take the profits, we take the risk/liabilityMay 22 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "όταν μίλησαν οι βετεράνοι[video] « risinggalaxy" from http://identi.ca/url/69919924May 22 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi hands-on and Eben Upton interview at Maker Faire (video) http://ur1.ca/9accq #linuxMay 22 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] From the store to online and back again - My look at the #amazon and #waterstones deal http://is.gd/FdINNJMay 22 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Land of the Surveilled: bit.ly/KiHriR bit.ly/KiIob6May 22 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] P. Strzembosz znów porównuje proponentów reformy prawa autorskiego do komunistów. Stary, dobry, merytoryczny argument. :) #WarsztatyMAiCMay 22 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Finds Its Way Into Mobile, Cloud, Big Data http://ur1.ca/9ache #opensourceMay 22 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/5/2012: Google/Motorola Deal Secured, Chrome Passes IE http://ur1.ca/9achg #techrightsMay 22 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Perfect weather in the UK this week, time for a bike trip around Media City UK and SalfordMay 22 10:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #OpenAccess petition. bit.ly/KiKQOO All !gnu !fs !linux advocates should sign. Why? That's why: http://rys.io/en/58May 22 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I would never call the Bull* Alliance an ally. They do definitely alienate also Free Software users, by spreading FUD, repeatedly.May 22 11:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Some Countries Want To Fix #TPP... By Making It More Like #ACTA - http://bit.ly/Kvr3tH oh, fabMay 22 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kiedy wyjdzie #KD005? /cc @sirmacik @wkplMay 22 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sanjayankur !fedora 17 artwork assets & new sleeves: http://ur1.ca/9aa7g #fedora #linux #beefymiracleMay 22 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Circulatory collapse is no fun. Had one just before takeoff. Thanks lufthansa crew for helping.May 22 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @unseenstudio #Crivins celebrate it's sweet 16th episode wi another crackin' episode http://fwd4.me/11D2 enjoy :D #ccmusic #FOSSMay 22 11:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > Alunos de matemática ganham manual digital e gratuito http://goo.gl/MFmMh #math #pt ... HUGE #FAIL! ver http://ur1.ca/9acxnMay 22 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Socl - It's Microsoft's "Me too" time again - http://is.gd/IuTusT #microsoft #mvpbuzz #mvpMay 22 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Denmark: Children Who Co-Sleep Nightly Are 70% Less Likely to be Overweight... http://goo.gl/x54CL #healthMay 22 12:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Harvard Medical School Facing Trial Over Massive #Alzheimer’s Disease Research Fraud http://goo.gl/48pzd #bigpharmaMay 22 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Home sweet home. Time to recover.May 22 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nanowire battery can hold 10 times the charge of existing lithium-ion battery - element14 http://goo.gl/dkPMv #scitek (feb2012)May 22 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Metro de Lisboa em greve a partir das 5.30 horas http://goo.gl/Ujcrq #pt #FAIL eu diria que são direitos principescos http://ur1.ca/9ad57May 22 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Michael Moore on Occupy #Bilderberg Occupy what? - YouTube http://goo.gl/7LGyp #gatekeepers #tptb #scum http://ur1.ca/9ad7wMay 22 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Full List of Bilderbergers Attendees | 2012 Indy Info http://goo.gl/4cIyH #bilderberg 2011 attendees list - #PortugalMay 22 13:14
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prurigromorning allMay 22 13:19
MinceRmoaningMay 22 13:23
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prurigrohow goes?May 22 13:26
prurigroyou miss me? j/kMay 22 13:26
prurigroany discussion on that microsoft affiliate trying to kill bittorrent?May 22 13:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] in that light, and so far as the two are //, yes.May 22 13:41
formic_it won't happenMay 22 13:42
MinceRmany have tried and they've all failed. :>May 22 13:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] careful when you address the dread pirate Roberts.May 22 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I do get the point of the saying though. ~;-)May 22 13:44
oiaohmMicrosoft has done something nice and evil.May 22 13:46
oiaohmhttp://www.osnews.com/story/25977/Visual_Studio_11_Express_editions_Metro-onlyMay 22 13:47
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prurigrooh yea, I don't expect it to work, but its funny that they tryMay 22 13:47
prurigroand wowwwwMay 22 13:47
prurigrometro only ehMay 22 13:47
prurigrowho needs window management when developing anyway?May 22 13:48
prurigroI mean reallyMay 22 13:48
MinceRwhoever needs it has already moved to gnu/linux :>May 22 13:48
formic_thats 'express'May 22 13:48
formic_the free versionMay 22 13:48
MinceRi expected screenshots thoughMay 22 13:49
oiaohmformic_: what most people use when they are learning to program.May 22 13:49
oiaohmformic_: with MS crap.May 22 13:49
formic_not trueMay 22 13:49
formic_not trueMay 22 13:49
oiaohmformic_: then is only the Australian programming schools.May 22 13:50
formic_oh schoolMay 22 13:50
formic_lolMay 22 13:50
formic_no wonderMay 22 13:50
formic_schools dont teach anything of valueMay 22 13:50
MinceRdepends on the schoolMay 22 13:51
oiaohmformic_: problem is a percentage stick to what they got taught in school.May 22 13:52
oiaohmWelcome to the next generation of drop kicks basically.May 22 13:52
prurigroI used express at work for web dev quite a bitMay 22 13:52
prurigroits got an amazing regex find/replaceMay 22 13:52
oiaohmFor web development I never used express.May 22 13:52
prurigroI guess I'll have to stick with old versionsMay 22 13:52
oiaohmprurigro: Know this beast.  http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/May 22 13:53
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MinceRprurigro: so i take it you don't know vim? :>May 22 13:53
prurigroI love vim so muchMay 22 13:53
oiaohmprurigro: I read licensing fine prints.May 22 13:53
oiaohmprurigro: express cannot be used for commercial production legally.May 22 13:54
prurigrocommercial = money makingMay 22 13:54
prurigrothis is government transparencyMay 22 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from David Marsden http://ur1.ca/9adioMay 22 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] SIM card to help parents protect children from bullying http://goo.gl/lR2yMMay 22 13:54
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oiaohmprurigro: the fine print even include sites you are selling product from.May 22 13:54
MinceRto be fair, vs shouldn't be used for mission critical systems anywayMay 22 13:54
MinceR:>May 22 13:55
oiaohmprurigro: the fine print of it is evil.May 22 13:55
prurigrotell that to the people who come up with the 'allowed software' listMay 22 13:55
oiaohmI have quite a huge allowed software list.May 22 13:56
oiaohmAlso express does leave behind markers in the binaries as well.May 22 13:57
prurigromicrosoft seems to have convinced the canadian government that it isn't doing its duty to the economy if it doesn't use corporate softwareMay 22 13:57
prurigrobinaries?May 22 13:57
prurigroyou mean for software dev?May 22 13:57
oiaohmSo you can look at the binaries and see what it was built with.May 22 13:58
oiaohmLot of compliers do this people don't notice.May 22 13:58
prurigroahh, word-- yea, I wouldn't ever use anything even remotely questionable for binary productionMay 22 13:58
prurigrothat includes image softwareMay 22 13:58
oiaohmphp and java I have found good.May 22 13:59
oiaohmSince I know the stuff above board.May 22 13:59
MinceRphp, good? o_OMay 22 13:59
oiaohmphp performance is not a major problem hiphop.May 22 14:00
prurigrophp isn't the best and it isn't the worstMay 22 14:00
MinceRyeah, performance probably isn'tMay 22 14:00
MinceRbraindeadness is, though :>May 22 14:00
prurigroare you talking about typical coding practices in php?May 22 14:01
formic_php lolMay 22 14:01
prurigroie: pretending php is html?May 22 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Occupy the occupation. Occupy your occupation. Occupy the octopus.May 22 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Is information a competitive differentiater? by @jhibbets | http://red.ht/K7rCfC #osbcMay 22 14:01
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oiaohmMinceR: there are a lot to tools to check php.May 22 14:01
oiaohmOf course people are guilty of not running them.May 22 14:01
MinceRnot just that, also what php encourages and the way it's designed.May 22 14:01
oiaohmNot like .net encourages better outcomes.May 22 14:02
oiaohmWhen you get to web development no language is perfect.May 22 14:02
MinceRwell, .net is even worse, no question about thatMay 22 14:03
MinceRbut you could use python or perl or even c++ insteadMay 22 14:03
prurigroyou can use those, though I feel languages that potentially have access to your filesystem are slightly more dangerous to use in other directionsMay 22 14:04
MinceRphp has access to your filesystem.May 22 14:04
prurigroonly if you give it access?May 22 14:05
MinceRnopeMay 22 14:05
prurigrogo on? I've not run into features that allow access outside a root folderMay 22 14:05
MinceRwhat's worse, minor typos can actually let users read the php source code and/or execute php include files from your codeMay 22 14:05
prurigrolike, web server rootMay 22 14:05
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MinceRany language can be used in a chrootMay 22 14:06
prurigroand yes, that is an issue, though I'd considered it more of one to your dbMay 22 14:06
MinceRalso, php can run shell commandsMay 22 14:06
prurigroout of the box?May 22 14:06
MinceRwell, there's the system() functionMay 22 14:06
MinceRiircMay 22 14:06
MinceRout of the box, iircMay 22 14:06
oiaohmhttps://www.owasp.org/index.php/Source_Code_Analysis_ToolsMay 22 14:06
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prurigrohmm, interesting- well if that's the case its less safe than I'd been treating it, though I always review review and review + modularize for easy maintenance to avoid easy hacksMay 22 14:07
MinceRoiaohm: http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/May 22 14:07
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oiaohmMinceR: of course you know PHP has a safe mode.May 22 14:08
oiaohmMinceR: that system() function and many others don't work.May 22 14:08
MinceRthat's niceMay 22 14:08
MinceRtoo bad it has a lot more problems than thatMay 22 14:08
prurigroit can't bad at its core-- too many mission critical solutions use itMay 22 14:09
prurigroI mean, if coded carefully to avoid pitfallsMay 22 14:09
MinceRthe million flies defense? really?May 22 14:09
prurigrorather, I was posing a weak argument to see if you had a responseMay 22 14:10
prurigroie: you either disprove or don't disprove, but my argument doesn't prove the reverse if you don't disproveMay 22 14:10
formic_golang is awesome for the webMay 22 14:11
MinceRpython is awesomerMay 22 14:11
formic_nahMay 22 14:12
formic_perhaps when python supports having git repos included in your source codeMay 22 14:12
MinceRwhy isn't just managing python code with git enough?May 22 14:13
formic_I can include someone elses code using an include statement with the url for their git repoMay 22 14:13
MinceRin a webapp?May 22 14:13
MinceRand that doesn't strike you as bad practice for a number of reasons?May 22 14:13
formic_yeahMay 22 14:13
formic_noMay 22 14:13
MinceRthen i don't have any more questions. :>May 22 14:14
formic_the code gets compiledMay 22 14:14
MinceRgit is not a file serverMay 22 14:14
formic_who said it wasMay 22 14:14
MinceRpulling code on-the-fly from external sources into your webapp means you implicitly trust those sources to not change said code maliciously at any timeMay 22 14:15
formic_instead of me grabbing external codeMay 22 14:15
formic_the compiler does itMay 22 14:15
formic_its not on the flyMay 22 14:15
formic_its at compile timeMay 22 14:15
MinceRif you did the grabbing, you'd get a chance to see if the system works with the current version you're gettingMay 22 14:15
formic_why wouldn't you trust libraries you're including?May 22 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] it's just themed very similarly (inc a gnome version of the kickoff launcher). & now they are forking gnome desktop (due to gnome shell).May 22 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] no, but that would be a very nice (runners can offer configuration in the plugin listing). `20 euro in chf` works, but default currencies++May 22 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] wasn't clear where to send the complaint to, but it'll be forwarded to whoever needs to see it #ArsTechinca #trollingMay 22 14:16
formic_you can also hardcode to grab revisions, or grab manually stillMay 22 14:16
MinceRi'd prefer to grab manually, test in a non-production environment, then put it into productionMay 22 14:17
MinceRand load code from my own infrastructureMay 22 14:17
formic_bad practice coming from Ken Thompson and Rob Pike?May 22 14:17
formic_you can still do that mincerMay 22 14:17
formic_you now have an additional option to grab from urlMay 22 14:18
formic_which works great if you do in fact trust the sourceMay 22 14:18
MinceRyes, often ill-conceived features don't prevent me from doing things the right way :>May 22 14:18
formic_theres nothing wrong with pulling from urlMay 22 14:18
oiaohmMinceR: final result with me is php threw hiphop what is basically nailed into binaries.May 22 14:18
MinceRformic_: so you keep claiming.May 22 14:19
oiaohmMinceR: basically there are valid ways to use PHP.  And there are invalid ones.May 22 14:20
MinceRyes, but php itself discourages the valid waysMay 22 14:20
oiaohmA lot of those thing the person complained about hiphop will fail to build if they are wrong.May 22 14:20
MinceRit's easier to do it in sane languagesMay 22 14:20
formic_ahh, but when python has a similar feature - there will be nothing wrong with itMay 22 14:20
oiaohmReally???May 22 14:20
formic_you're just making excusesMay 22 14:21
MinceRhaven't heard of itMay 22 14:21
oiaohmC++,  C, python ..... Basically all the web languages you can create nasty big flaws.May 22 14:21
oiaohmSo you must validate you code.May 22 14:21
oiaohmphp it is simpler to see if someone does not.May 22 14:21
MinceRyes, but only one of them is geared towards pushing the programmer into most of those big flawsMay 22 14:21
MinceRwith register_globals, sql command mangling, and stuff like thatMay 22 14:22
oiaohmWhat one is simpler to detect a coder not doing there job.May 22 14:22
oiaohmPHP someone who does not know what they are doing will not get lucky.May 22 14:22
oiaohmSo as soon as you run validator over there code is kinda straight up that poorly coded.May 22 14:23
oiaohmSometimes you don't want a nice language.May 22 14:23
oiaohmAlso the arguement order item exists in c and c++May 22 14:24
oiaohmand most other languages.May 22 14:24
oiaohmSomewhere.May 22 14:24
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MinceR_lead the coder into a minefield of bad practices and check if he adds the necessary boilerplate code to avoid them?May 22 14:26
MinceR_(btw my ISP sucks cocks)May 22 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Romanian PM will not ratify #ACTA - http://bit.ly/Mhxcvd unless there are changes; but there can be no changes now... (v @mgeist)May 22 14:26
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oiaohmMinceR: you have to check for necessary boilerplate code in C C++ python and java as well.May 22 14:27
MinceRit's not the same magnitude thoughMay 22 14:28
MinceRalso, if you check for it there too then why insist on php?May 22 14:28
oiaohmFunny enough don't under guess the c if (x=1)  issuesMay 22 14:29
oiaohmTo be correct c c++ and javaMay 22 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Announcing printerd http://ur1.ca/9adopMay 22 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US petition could tip the scales in favour of #openaccess publishing - http://bit.ly/Kbn72o good to see in #guardian (v @petersuber)May 22 14:29
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oiaohmMinceR: most people are not aware of this in PHP  disable_functionsMay 22 14:30
MinceRhttp://phpsadness.com/May 22 14:30
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oiaohmMinceR: basically you can disable any function you don't use.May 22 14:30
oiaohmMinceR: and for secure sites you have quite a list.May 22 14:30
oiaohmBasically PHP included something really handly in the means to turn off functions.May 22 14:31
oiaohmMinceR: there are reason why php is used.  for all its issues it did include something important.May 22 14:33
MinceRyes, it's used because there are many ignorant programmersMay 22 14:33
oiaohmDoes not matter I have caught python code with unvalidated code going into a system call.May 22 14:34
oiaohmSame with C C++ ......May 22 14:34
oiaohmBasically bad coders is a constant.May 22 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] interesting #ComputerWorldUK article, broken link tho, sorry, go search for it, it's interestingMay 22 14:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #BSA Claims Half of PC Users Are Pirates http://goo.gl/PKAig shit happens when software is priced in the 100's or 1,000's & made "standard"May 22 14:34
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MinceRbraindead languages aren't, thoughMay 22 14:34
oiaohmC C++ python and java don't make it as system to disable functions.May 22 14:35
formic_mincer is just filled with hateMay 22 14:35
oiaohmphp might be brain dead in some ways but it wise in others.May 22 14:35
MinceRthey also don't make it as easy to turn GET/POST parameters into variables.May 22 14:35
MinceRformic_ is just filled with hate towards everything that isn't goMay 22 14:36
MinceR:>May 22 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] File-Sharing Prospers Despite Tougher Laws - http://bit.ly/JCOMM1 no surprise thereMay 22 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] printerd, a new project to build a printer spooling subsystem for Linux (LWN): http://bit.ly/JaA1LsMay 22 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Instant decryption of MS Office 2010 documents now possible http://goo.gl/U18Hg #security #pgp #truecrypt http://ur1.ca/9adqdMay 22 14:36
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formic_not trueMay 22 14:36
oiaohmMinceR: and that fault is part of proper taint checking.May 22 14:36
formic_i dont hate c,c++,python, etcMay 22 14:36
formic_i was giving props to go, someone else put it downMay 22 14:37
formic_i didnt put any other languages down to give props to goMay 22 14:37
oiaohmMinceR: if get/post in php can be turned into a something that does something all you know is someone did not do validation on code.May 22 14:37
oiaohmMinceR: at all so should be shot.May 22 14:37
formic_someone here is like "php sucks" "go sucks" "python is the best"May 22 14:38
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MinceRi didn't say "go sucks", i said the supposedly killer feature you quoted was unnecessarily and dangerousMay 22 14:38
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formic_its notMay 22 14:40
formic_its no more dangerous than using git/svn/cvs/tarball to get your external lib manuallyMay 22 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Kaspersky co-founder resorts to #scaremongering over #Apple’s iOS antivirus ban http://goo.gl/4Ts00May 22 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] ownCloud 4 released http://ur1.ca/9adrcMay 22 14:41
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formic_i guarantee you, people are not auditing their external libsMay 22 14:41
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oiaohmMinceR:  some of that sadness person cannot see.  http://www.phpsadness.com/sad/48  Can you name the grouping.May 22 14:41
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MinceRyes, if you do so automatically and with closed eyesMay 22 14:41
oiaohmMinceR: to is strings.  2 is numbersMay 22 14:41
MinceRand that was necessary?May 22 14:42
formic_mincer - do you inspect make files to audit for malicious code?May 22 14:42
oiaohmMinceR: unfortunally yes.May 22 14:42
MinceRthere's somewhere a (a)2(b) and (a)to(b) function pair and this is supposed to tell them apart?May 22 14:42
MinceRand that doesn't strike you as stupid? :>May 22 14:42
MinceRformic_: dependsMay 22 14:42
oiaohmMinceR: its to be compadible with type checking by static checkers.May 22 14:43
oiaohmMinceR: without having todo a stack of evil things.May 22 14:43
MinceRformic_: but i certainly wouldn't allow it to be replaced with potentially malicious code from an external source triggered by someone elseMay 22 14:43
oiaohmMinceR: the fact is the usage of 2 and to is consistant.May 22 14:43
oiaohmMinceR: that is the most important thing.May 22 14:44
formic_mincer - I like how you distrust external libs so much that you'll still use themMay 22 14:44
MinceRoiaohm: if your static checker relies on such consistency on php's part, it's going to fall over pretty early onMay 22 14:44
MinceRformic_: i like how you don't see the issue with thisMay 22 14:44
oiaohmMinceR: PHP is supprisingly consistant.May 22 14:45
oiaohmMinceR: the out or order argruement functions are in fact all marked deprecated.May 22 14:45
formic_do you think someone is going to start off with good code, and then start mucking it up when people start including it?May 22 14:46
oiaohmSo you should not find them in a new php program.May 22 14:46
MinceRformic_: or someone will take over the domain name and replace itMay 22 14:46
MinceRformic_: or someone will break into that server and replace itMay 22 14:46
formic_gee, that won't show up in gitMay 22 14:46
MinceRor someone will change the data in transitMay 22 14:46
formic_now I know you're completely full of shit, and ill stop listening to youMay 22 14:47
MinceRooh, ad hominemMay 22 14:47
MinceRniceMay 22 14:47
formic_change data in transit via a git repo is the stupidest shit i've ever heardMay 22 14:47
MinceRand i'm the haterMay 22 14:47
formic_are they also forging sha512 hashes?May 22 14:47
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MinceRdid you manually specify the hash in the code?May 22 14:48
MinceRsebsebseb: May 22 14:48
formic_James Bond can forge anythingMay 22 14:48
MinceRif not, then it does not need to be forged.May 22 14:48
formic_you obviously know nothingMay 22 14:48
formic_i've wasted 15 mins of my lifeMay 22 14:48
MinceRif you did, then i don't see why isn't it better to just check out that revision and use it locallyMay 22 14:48
MinceRhurrrMay 22 14:48
MinceR<formic_> OOP is stupid because go doesn't have itMay 22 14:49
MinceR<formic_> including code from foreign servers is good because go has itMay 22 14:49
MinceRherp derpMay 22 14:49
formic_now you're making shit upMay 22 14:49
formic_go does have oop, noobMay 22 14:49
oiaohmMinceR: really I am looking forward to particular php functions being declared dead so I no longer have to disable them to prevent coders using them.May 22 14:50
formic_<@Mincer> What is a pointer? durrrMay 22 14:51
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formic_<@Mincer> I'm jealous of including code from foreign servers because python doesn't have it... tin foil hat timeMay 22 14:52
MinceR<formic_> i have a new hammer! now everything looks like a nail.May 22 14:53
formic_what if someone hijacks your foreign server before you pull your code manuallyMay 22 14:55
formic_oh noesMay 22 14:55
MinceRthen you're screwed either wayMay 22 14:55
formic_same shitMay 22 14:55
MinceRthough if you test first then you'll at least have a chance to notice the issueMay 22 14:55
MinceR<formic_> also, everyone who doesn't use a hammer for everything is crazy!May 22 14:55
formic_not sure how you write code without testingMay 22 14:56
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MinceRand you don't know the difference between testing and production?May 22 14:56
formic_yes, and any foreign code would be well tested prior to productionMay 22 14:57
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oiaohmMinceR: http://us.php.net/manual/en/intro.filter.php  taint checking is built into php 5 and up if coders use it.May 22 15:03
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oiaohmMinceR:  You know that one about person being able to insert random vars.May 22 15:03
oiaohmMinceR: taint checking on it is not happening.May 22 15:04
oiaohmMinceR: also a lot of other errors are killed.May 22 15:04
MinceRyes, that's the right way to protect against design flawsMay 22 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] " We’ve acquired Motorola Mobility " - +Larry Page http://ur1.ca/9advs... http://b1t.it/bu4vMay 22 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ya, pero si eres de un grupo, los mensajes los recibiras igual, y los mensajes que contengan el nombre de un grupo iran a el. Medio sirve xDMay 22 15:04
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MinceRjust pile more hacks on topMay 22 15:04
oiaohmMinceR: no.May 22 15:04
oiaohmTaint checking is a part of programming.May 22 15:05
MinceRmy badMay 22 15:05
MinceRs/hacks/boilerplate/May 22 15:05
oiaohmTo make sure that something is only used when it has been checked.May 22 15:05
oiaohmTo prevent injection problems.May 22 15:05
oiaohmyou do it with c c++ python and java as third party tools.May 22 15:05
oiaohmSome places php has good MinceRMay 22 15:06
oiaohmUnder used but good.May 22 15:06
MinceRi'll take third party tools and a reasonably well designed language over a braindead design with no third party tools any day.May 22 15:06
oiaohmWhat is the down side of the third party tool.May 22 15:06
oiaohmSomeone can manage to build without it.May 22 15:07
oiaohmPhp it just a case of turn it on.May 22 15:07
MinceRsomeone can also manage to leave the boilerplate outMay 22 15:07
MinceRor forget to turn out stupid hack #2342348May 22 15:07
MinceRs/out/on/May 22 15:07
oiaohmAnd when you turn on taint checking is mandory the php don't run.May 22 15:07
oiaohmIf they did not.May 22 15:08
oiaohmYes I hate somethings about php but there are something I would love to see in python and others.May 22 15:09
oiaohmAnd one is built in taint checking framework with a option to disable run like php.May 22 15:09
oiaohmIf its not in use.May 22 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Social Networks Spread Rumors in Sublogarithmic Time (Saarland University): http://ur1.ca/9adwrMay 22 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bee Gees - Wish You Were Here - YouTube http://goo.gl/99WwB #musicMay 22 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Also worth noting that ~65% of the Quebec population supports the bill. http://ur1.ca/9adwyMay 22 15:09
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MinceRand what tool will ensure that your .htaccess won't let users view .php/.inc files or run .inc files remotely?May 22 15:10
oiaohm.inc that it runs shows you stuffed up basic file permissions.May 22 15:12
MinceRyes, and which tool will check them?May 22 15:12
MinceRall modern frameworks get this right. why not php?May 22 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Even after #Obama's promise, #lobbyists still run the White House http://goo.gl/vGORCMay 22 15:14
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oiaohmMinceR: no in fact not.May 22 15:15
oiaohmMinceR: you can call items of python on a web site you should not as well.May 22 15:15
oiaohmSame with ruby.May 22 15:15
oiaohmYou can stub inc files to make them not runable if you are worreid about using a crappy OS like windows without the permissions.May 22 15:15
MinceRno, those aren't supposed to be where the web server serves static content from.May 22 15:16
MinceRand stubbing is yet more boilerplate to work around a design flaw.May 22 15:16
oiaohmAnd where are inc files meant to be.May 22 15:17
MinceRoutside www-data.May 22 15:17
oiaohmExactly.May 22 15:18
MinceRjust like all the rest of the code.May 22 15:18
oiaohmAnd where do people put python ruby and php using cgi like stuff.May 22 15:18
MinceRmodern frameworks aren't based on cgi.May 22 15:19
oiaohmCan php run without being in the www-dataMay 22 15:19
oiaohmYes it can.May 22 15:19
oiaohmIt can in fact run as it own webserver.May 22 15:19
oiaohmJust people are not using this.May 22 15:19
MinceRwhy?May 22 15:19
oiaohmIts faster has less secuirty problems I don't know why they don't.May 22 15:20
oiaohmSome of this people are just stuck to the old ways MinceRMay 22 15:20
oiaohmMinceR: Most people who look a php see the commmon contruction.  Not aware that python ruby and php all can do website the same ways.May 22 15:23
oiaohmsome are not sane ways but are popular.May 22 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] same here; however, i've been to a few places where transit to the airport doesn't exist or is a cruel hoax, so car it is. :/May 22 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] e.g. venezuela, where i got driven to the airport from a countryside town in a taxi driven by a guy wearing a formula 1 pit crew shirt.May 22 15:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] he drove appropriate to his shirt. fun / scary.May 22 15:34
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DaemonFCI just got rid of DirecTVMay 22 15:47
DaemonFCI think I'm just going to go back to the system I had before of "the antenna on the roof is free"May 22 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @faif On !FaiFCast 0x29, hear @fontana's #lfcollab 2012 talk entitled "Decline of !GPL" & @bkuhn's & @kaz's comments on it: http://ur ...May 22 15:48
schestowitz"Almost too hot here for my taste. I guess it's the sudden jump of about 15*C!"May 22 15:51
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DaemonFCschestowitz, DirecTV was about 2/3rds of my combined bill with my DSL accountMay 22 15:52
DaemonFCand about a tenth of what I was usingMay 22 15:52
DaemonFCthey have it set up so credits expire gradually and before you know it, your bill has gone up $40-50 for the DirecTV part for the same serviceMay 22 15:53
DaemonFCbut as the credits finish expiring, you still have a year left on your contract where you are stuck with themMay 22 15:53
DaemonFCas soon as I finish winding this down I may look into getting another ISP in a month or two as wellMay 22 15:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @velska #RaspberryPi is not "everyman's" computer; someone should create a commercial product around it for $200 -> "unpack, plug in, ...May 22 15:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] WOOOO THANKS MIKE LINKSVAYER WOOOOOMay 22 15:54
DaemonFChalf the DirecTV bill isn't even your programmingMay 22 15:55
DaemonFCthey slip in $6 per TV (I have two TVs), $8 for using a DVR, $10 for HD serviceMay 22 15:56
DaemonFCso they slip in a good $30 between two TVs just for using their equipmentMay 22 15:56
DaemonFCthen the $60-150 for the programming depending on your package (not including pay per view)May 22 15:57
DaemonFCthen they slip in Indiana sales tax of 7% on top of that which they never mention in their pricing but I guess I really should have known that was comingMay 22 15:57
DaemonFCand then they line item in a few Federal fees that nobody knows what those areMay 22 15:58
DaemonFCso you end up paying $100 a month for DirecTV's basic package, two boxes, DVR service, and HD serviceMay 22 15:58
DaemonFCand that gets you no movies at all, it maps up to be about the same thing as Basic CableMay 22 15:59
DaemonFConly about $60-70 moreMay 22 15:59
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DaemonFCthe only tiers where you start pulling ahead of cable are with the best satellite packages they haveMay 22 16:00
DaemonFClesson learnedMay 22 16:00
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DaemonFCand as jono can tell you, lessons not learned in blood are soon forgottenMay 22 16:00
DaemonFCright jono? rightMay 22 16:00
DaemonFC:)May 22 16:01
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DaemonFCI may just sell my old TV to get rid of itMay 22 16:08
DaemonFCit's an HD set with no HD tuner, and it's CRTMay 22 16:08
DaemonFCweighs a good 100 poundsMay 22 16:08
DaemonFCsomeone might want it for $50May 22 16:08
DaemonFCput that sucker on craigslist and see where that goesMay 22 16:09
DaemonFCI've been dismantling old furniture I don't want and donating it to charityMay 22 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That new brand of Occupy Snack Crackers ("99% Delicious!") is also pretty telling.May 22 16:09
DaemonFCtrying to lighten the load for when I go to move next yearMay 22 16:09
DaemonFCI noticed a lot of apartments in that area tend to come with free cable anyway, no sense having DirecTV insist that I lug them alongMay 22 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why Hollywood Is Doomed: It Takes Sensible Advice Like 'Make Good Movies' And Turns It Into A Screed About Piracy http://goo.gl/J7BK1May 22 16:18
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DaemonFCI don't know why I let myself get dragged around by the balls for two years by these people in the first placeMay 22 16:19
DaemonFCyou want pirates? there's some pirates for youMay 22 16:20
DaemonFCthey'll clean you out on monthly installmentsMay 22 16:20
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MinceRhttps://mobile.twitter.com/PLT_HulkMay 22 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Happy birthday @zach!May 22 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Facebook loses trademark fight against adult social network http://goo.gl/zD4FdMay 22 16:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] the world’s first Open Data Institute - http://bit.ly/KItqsA oooh, exciting #opendata #ukMay 22 16:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 12.04: Parentally Precise http://ur1.ca/9aeif #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMay 22 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Copyright Extension Undermined #Copyright: The Copyright Of Parking (Part I) - http://bit.ly/JzwsOs nice analysisMay 22 16:34
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schestowitzMinceR: lolMay 22 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after walking a mile in someone elses shoes you'd be tired from them chasing you accusing you of theft of a pair of shoes #DirscworldMay 22 16:36
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schestowitzMinceR: HULK DOES NOT LIKES LISP ??May 22 16:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639217May 22 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Invites Implementations of High Resolution Time and Resource Timing http://ow.ly/1jXqBMMay 22 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Call for Review: Widget Interface Proposed Recommendation Published http://ow.ly/1jXqBNMay 22 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Web Services Internationalization (WS-I18N) Note Published http://ow.ly/1jXqBOMay 22 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Three drafts published by the Web Applications Working Group http://ow.ly/1jXqBPMay 22 16:39
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schestowitz"I think system76 does a fine job supporting ubuntu, but their hardware is just bad compared to what you can find elsewhere. That laptop is as big as an organic chemistry textbook." May 22 16:40
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/tyz0l/system76_releases_gazelle_professional_ubuntu/May 22 16:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva To Use Mageia For Their Business Servers http://ur1.ca/9aejn #gnu #linuxMay 22 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Seedrs opens doors for early stage #crowdfunding - http://bit.ly/JaP4oj cool idea; #london-based tooMay 22 16:43
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MinceRtoo brownMay 22 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @diablod3 #Anonymous leaks 1.7 GB of data and email from the U.S. Bureau of Justice http://ur1.ca/9a9z8 !eff !fsfMay 22 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] There would be far less corruption if publicly-funded bodies were transparent in everything. Seeing how Obama commanded by copyright mastersMay 22 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Rubio and the #Bilderberg conspiracy - POLITICO.com Print View http://goo.gl/r6QJqMay 22 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Acquires Motorola Mobility http://ur1.ca/9aeki #motorola #android #linux #phones #hardware #usMay 22 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Post-0x29 discussion between @bkuhn & @kaz best I've heard for FaiF episodes in a long timeMay 22 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If the public pays (not by choice) for a function to be performed, how can the anatomy of this function be "leaked".May 22 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Public data, e.g. US cables, being 'leaked' (aka released to taxpayers) is indicative of rotten system, not security breachMay 22 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Hmmmmm @bkuhn is defending !LGPL for #JBossMay 22 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The public is given option(s) to vote *which* advertised party will 'run' public office, not how public office is structured/runMay 22 16:51
formic_not brown enoughMay 22 16:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] someone donated a 486 to us. no, it doesn't run tor. http://ur1.ca/9aelrMay 22 16:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Democracy is all about choice, as long we choose democracy ;-) (de facto crony capitalism brushed over with "democracy")May 22 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Elephant In The Room: European Capital (Out)flows And Another €215 Billion In Spanish Deposit Flight | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/tF8JAMay 22 16:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Page: Motorola Mobility acquisition is key http://ur1.ca/9aemt as long as they keep #android free... (China forced them to commit)May 22 16:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Congrats to president Simon Phipps http://ur1.ca/9aenf #osi #opensource #freesoftware #freedom #sharing #standardsMay 22 17:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Facebook desvaloriza 11% e Zuckerberg perde 2,1 mil milhões - Exame Informática http://goo.gl/3IExt #facebroke lol...the only way is down!May 22 17:03
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MinceRschestowitz: actually hulk seems to like lispMay 22 17:04
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DaemonFChttps://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/canceled-directv/May 22 17:07
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DaemonFCTV should be like birthday magiciansMay 22 17:07
DaemonFCright jono? rightMay 22 17:08
jonololMay 22 17:08
DaemonFCjono, Are you regretting it yet?May 22 17:09
DaemonFCit's a great deal, for the first yearMay 22 17:09
DaemonFCthen they have you on the hook for the second year at full priceMay 22 17:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] well, that's one view; you'd also go down in history...May 22 17:11
DaemonFC$94.99 a month plus 7% Indiana sales tax = $101.64 a month to watch programming which consists mostly of rerunsMay 22 17:12
DaemonFCwith the occasional new episode of Walking Dead or Falling SkiesMay 22 17:12
DaemonFCor the few other shows I likeMay 22 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Must See Film: Michael Moore Meets Hunter S. Thompson | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/QdfQu #docs #usa #world #kleptocracy #corporatismMay 22 17:13
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DaemonFCwell, $101.64 * 12 = $1,219.68May 22 17:13
DaemonFCwhich could buy a lot of DVDs full of complete seasons of all the shows I watchMay 22 17:13
DaemonFCwith no commercialsMay 22 17:13
DaemonFCwith money left overMay 22 17:13
DaemonFChell, I think Netflix is something like $8 a monthMay 22 17:14
DaemonFCrenting a blu ray disc is down to $1.50-$2May 22 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @cwebber Was a bit (pleasantly) surprised to hear my blogpost http://ur1.ca/8qccy mentioned by @fontan ...May 22 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some people think that more voters make better nation http://ur1.ca/9aes3 I think more PROTESTERS, less votersMay 22 17:14
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DaemonFCeverything else is on the way downMay 22 17:15
DaemonFCthe only thing that goes up every year is the cable billMay 22 17:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corporations and their PR can easily fool the masses to marginalise really sane (non-puppeted) candidates, so elections bought, never workMay 22 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Is Russian Oil Production Plummeting? | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/zw96r #russia #peakoilMay 22 17:16
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DaemonFCeven during years where the US government says inflation went up 1-2%, the cable company comes back and says they want another 6-8%May 22 17:16
DaemonFCthere only seems to be two things that go up in price faster than cable televisionMay 22 17:17
DaemonFChealthcare and gasolineMay 22 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @hook: Why I'm fighting for #FaiF: "Because when Orwell happens to my kids, I want a better appology then 'liking was convenient'"May 22 17:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Hope" in a state is when people stop turning up at the ballots. They have no hope in crooks, they hope people will wake up at last.May 22 17:18
DaemonFCschestowitz, I have no doubt Obama will get a second termMay 22 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Welcome to FoWL: Friends of #WikiLeaks! - http://bit.ly/L2mZne "a network of people from across globe who defend WikiLeaks": is this real?May 22 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ballots are not engaging citizens in government. It's like a multiple choice question, a button of approval (or butterfly ballot).May 22 17:19
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DaemonFCRomney isn't getting donations from anyone but millionaires and billionairesMay 22 17:19
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DaemonFCthat tells you how much the poor and middle class are onto himMay 22 17:20
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DaemonFCeven the people that tend to vote Republican will probably have low turnout this year because many of them will be seriously unimpressed by RomneyMay 22 17:20
DaemonFCand his record of job destructionMay 22 17:20
DaemonFCby popular vote, I believe it will be about 55-60% in favor of ObamaMay 22 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #China Oil Imports From #Iran Rebound | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/y06K1 #peakoil embargo? what embargo?May 22 17:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Referendum in the West is a threat to "democracy" (crony capitalism). Imagine what would happen if people voted on copyrights, wars, Fed...May 22 17:21
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schestowitzDaemonFC: wowMay 22 17:21
schestowitznot even underdog effect to balance that as usual?May 22 17:22
schestowitzI bet many Obama voters will not even end up turning upMay 22 17:22
DaemonFCI don't Romney is a very weak candidate for the RepublicansMay 22 17:22
schestowitztoo disappointed by him, not thinking he needs their vote to win anywayMay 22 17:22
DaemonFC*I believeMay 22 17:22
DaemonFCI don't think Romney can winMay 22 17:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #RonPaul takes 32 Minnesota delegates | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/mJWVTMay 22 17:23
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schestowitzGOP might have to rebrandMay 22 17:23
schestowitzLike "New Labour"May 22 17:23
schestowitzThe Bushes did them major damageMay 22 17:23
DaemonFCa lot of the teabaggers can't get behind him because they think he's too much of a "liberal"May 22 17:23
DaemonFCthe working class can't gt behind him because of Bain CapitalMay 22 17:23
DaemonFCI am fairly confident that he won't winMay 22 17:24
DaemonFCand not only that he won't win, but that the only reason he will do better than McCain is because the Electoral College has changed to favor the south a bit since the 2010 Census gave them a few more electoral votesMay 22 17:24
DaemonFCby popular vote, he will do worse than McCainMay 22 17:24
DaemonFCby Electoral Votes, he will do better, but not by enough to winMay 22 17:25
DaemonFCif he manages to win, it will be an upset and it will be within 1 point of ObamaMay 22 17:26
DaemonFCbut the chances of that are smallMay 22 17:26
DaemonFCschestowitz, I've written to most of the Indiana General Assembly asking them to support the National Popular Vote CompactMay 22 17:26
DaemonFCI've gotten a few repliesMay 22 17:27
DaemonFCit came up for a vote once but failedMay 22 17:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/93907877May 22 17:27
TechrightsBot-tr@Marcio B. Jr. (mbjunior)'s status on Tuesday, 22-May-12 16:19:11 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz How come less voters?May 22 17:27
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_CompactMay 22 17:27
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schestowitzIt shows people don't support their government's conduct.May 22 17:27
DaemonFCit would effectively neutralize the Electoral College without amending the ConstitutionMay 22 17:27
schestowitzDaemonFC: Romoney will gte a Pelosi and Obama will get a BohnerMay 22 17:28
DaemonFCit would change state laws to allocate electors by the result of the national popular voteMay 22 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Congressional Staffers Still Can't Come To Terms With What Happened Over #SOPA - http://bit.ly/KwNAq2 talk about denialMay 22 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It shows people don't support their government's conduct.May 22 17:28
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DaemonFCat the point where states totaling enough EVs to select a winner sign onto the CompactMay 22 17:28
DaemonFCright now, it has been ratified by states totaling 132 electoral votesMay 22 17:29
DaemonFCit would go into effect if it were to be ratified by states totaling 270May 22 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EFF Joins Coalition Denouncing Secretive #WCIT Planning Process - http://bit.ly/MiMe3O we need #transparency here tooMay 22 17:31
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DaemonFCthe states can allocate their electors however they wantMay 22 17:32
DaemonFCit doesn't have to reflect the majority vote in the stateMay 22 17:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639349# "It is a Democracy, Crony Captalism is one of the dangers of Capitalism."May 22 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @glynmoody Congressional Staffers Still Can't Come To Terms With What Happened Over #SOPA - http://bit.ly/KwNAq2 talk about denialMay 22 17:33
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schestowitzIn the West, what's beign labeled "democracy" often sets aside the commercial model whereby the so-called democracy is controlled by commerce, not the populaceMay 22 17:33
DaemonFCschestowitz, I can come up with a better use of $101.64 a month than handing it over to DirecTVMay 22 17:33
DaemonFCI'm sure I can :)May 22 17:33
DaemonFCspeaking of the MAFIAAMay 22 17:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] They Show You in Plain View…Illuminati Operatives on Sgt. Pepper Album Cover « AfterAmerica's Blog http://goo.gl/ESF8M #xfilesMay 22 17:34
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639349 "I'm not sure why you care so much about the US when you don't live there."May 22 17:35
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schestowitzIt's the world's boss, it commands all other countries to align with its ways or face consequences.May 22 17:35
DaemonFChttps://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/14/opinion/14tue1.html?_r=1May 22 17:37
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DaemonFC"The Electoral College is an antidemocratic relic."May 22 17:37
DaemonFCit was never meant to facilitate democracyMay 22 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] Finding slightly older info on someone else's Facebook Timeline can be a real pain. Why compile this info if it can't be easily recalled?May 22 17:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why newspapers need to lose the ‘view from nowhere’ http://goo.gl/VtNbnMay 22 17:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Hollywood originality strikes again.....#TopCat movie in 3D wow - I've lost count how many generic layers thick that concept isMay 22 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] New Bill Legalizes Government #Propaganda and #Disinformation on American Citizens | The Vigilant Citizen http://goo.gl/i7Q8Q #usa #micMay 22 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's vicious lie to say that #facebook "doesn't give a fuck" abt its users. http://ur1.ca/9aeyo down again http://ur1.ca/9aeypMay 22 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] People who base their social life on #Facebook (virtual commodities) will find themselves lonely when people stop logging into FBMay 22 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft admits #Vista sucks... in order to sell #Vista8 http://ur1.ca/9aeznMay 22 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Facebook won't die when people delete their accounts. It'll become a wasteland when people find better places to hang out in.May 22 17:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639349May 22 17:51
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schestowitz"Such as the so called "War on Terror". Wars on a noun don't work, such as the War on Drugs, which is a dismal failure."May 22 17:51
schestowitz"My country does not have the right to police the world, and that mentality needs to end."May 22 17:51
schestowitz"That is true, and I would like that change, as it is a very imperialistic attitude."May 22 17:51
schestowitzPeople like to convice themselves that they change others in order to help them (and help themselves too)May 22 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Time to change perspective: Hostages, not Orphans | International Communia Association - http://goo.gl/SNsO2May 22 17:53
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schestowitz"Exactly. That's why the whole "Hope and Change" campaign was utter bollocks." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639338May 22 17:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Fried confirms that Google is currently using the “Lucid Lynx” version of Ubuntu (10.04)" http://ur1.ca/9af23 #ubuntuMay 22 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] The Kickstarter Generation Gap? (Manoush Zomorodi): http://bit.ly/L2xUx5 via @ashleymilnetyteMay 22 18:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook's 52-week range is: 30.98-45.00.... i.e. down from 45 to 30 in some sense, in a few days. Quick, somebody tell Zuck's momma!May 22 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Remember the days Carl had 2000 'friends' on FB? Now he is on the couch all day with mustard stains on his shirt..." ~fictional, 2015May 22 18:08
DaemonFCI'm reporting my debit card lost in case DirecTV tries any funny businessMay 22 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Being in a "walled garden" business model means you use social blackmail to get subs. And when people don't log in you no longer exist #googMay 22 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Dude, I'm telling you... I *DID* have many friends, but I forgot my password, so I can't show you"May 22 18:11
DaemonFCyou know how those crooks areMay 22 18:11
DaemonFCI've read horror story after horror story of "I returned my boxes but they hit me with a $100 fee for each one of them anyway"May 22 18:12
DaemonFCor some variation on thatMay 22 18:12
DaemonFCso lets just nip this in the budMay 22 18:12
DaemonFCif they still feel I owe them something, they can send me a bill in the mail and I can decide whether it's valid or notMay 22 18:13
DaemonFCit's too late to argue with them after they have already debited your bank accountMay 22 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxTag 2012 Gathers Linux Stakeholders In Berlin http://ur1.ca/9af6i #linux #berlinMay 22 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #openmokouses the brand for the third time, having not hit the jackpot before http://ur1.ca/9af6qMay 22 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] #Diablo3 is #DefectiveByDesign #DRM #Error37 http://www.defectivebydesign.org/diablo3 !dbd !fsf !gnu !libreplanetMay 22 18:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The Libreoffice team need designs to help create some beautiful templates - can you help? See http://is.gd/39RzH5 #libreoffice #ubuntuMay 22 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @SPARC_NA: Please watch & share our video on #openaccess and the important White House Petition bit.ly/ME1mLA #OAMondayMay 22 18:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Android's Overblown Fragmentation Problem http://ur1.ca/9afa5... http://b1t.it/bvaoMay 22 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] In #MSFT & #APPL land , Patent Trolling FTW ! http://ur1.ca/9afca... http://b1t.it/bvaAMay 22 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] #Diablo3 !DRM: "It's really an online game without a monthly fee" http://redd.it/tzjom It's !DefectiveByDesign.May 22 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] New Nmap 6.0 uses a variety of techniques to probe IPv6 networks (Network World): http://bit.ly/KkksUQMay 22 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Tuesday http://ur1.ca/9afd2May 22 18:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] i'm operating under the assumption that the purpose of creating such a system is provide/create incentive. perhaps i misunderstood?May 22 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] That's the idea, but my point is that if someone feels uncomfortable about using it, they are free not to. It will not be a default.May 22 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @davidrovics New song for those charged with "terrorism" at the NATO protests in Chicago. http://ping.fm/PxHZfMay 22 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung And HTC Working On Tizen OS-Powered Smarphones, Acer And ASUS Netbooks Will Follow http://ur1.ca/9afje #linux #tizenMay 22 19:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Mozilla — Webmaker — mozilla.org http://goo.gl/DXQ05 #flossMay 22 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] World's 'simplest' Linux laptop reaches the UK http://ur1.ca/9afjv #gnu #linux #ukMay 22 19:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RaspberryPi team teases camera add-on http://ur1.ca/9afk8 #uk #linux #hacking #tinkeringMay 22 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] printerd aims to be a modern print spooler for Linux http://ur1.ca/9afm8 #linux #printingMay 22 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "potential source for sales is the open-source Linux based Ultrabook" http://ur1.ca/9afmu #linuxMay 22 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Facebook perde mais de 17 mil milhões de dólares desde a estreia- Mercados - Jornal de negócios online http://goo.gl/X035v #facebrokeMay 22 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] OCDE: #Portugal com fosso considerável entre ricos e pobres- Economia - JNo http://goo.gl/PKvsQ #pt #socialismoMay 22 19:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Oh come now! Ad hominem attacks are so weak and childish. Surely you can do better.May 22 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Which part? I haven't seen a good argument against the various bits, except in straw man.May 22 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Right time to start sending dents again! Good Evening !Identiverse !tzag and the !Mageia 2 annoucement will be in 90 minutes or so. #MageiaMay 22 19:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] pra eu não esquecer (e pra quem quiser ler antes) publiquei meu comentário sobre o elefante incômodo no meu blog: http://ur1.ca/9afpyMay 22 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Like, "Section 16 *practically* outlaws freedom of assembly, which is crucial to democracy, so Bill 78 outlaws democracy."May 22 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Or, "If you tweet that everyone should go party in the streets after a Habs game, you'll be liable for $125,000!"May 22 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: New Linux Kernel Adds X32 ABI, Btrfs Updates http://t.co/OTAS7M5J #linuxMay 22 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #MPAA Agent Poses As Homebuyer To Catch Pirates http://goo.gl/fIwCoMay 22 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It's a fact, but it's also logically unsound.May 22 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Nope, that's a straw man argument.May 22 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Here’s every single way you can get more free space on #Dropbox http://goo.gl/SzAYmMay 22 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - Facebook Fiasco http://goo.gl/vNKQ3 #facebrokeMay 22 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Earl Miles: Help Fund Views in Core http://goo.gl/XJow9 #Drupal #FOSSMay 22 19:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] iTWire - How #Debian has grown: Stefano Zacchiroli speaks http://goo.gl/4I8da #gnulinuxMay 22 19:48
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schestowitz"Pretty good way to describe society" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639091May 22 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Even if I were the kind of person who banned people I don't agree with, I enjoy this subject too much to silence you.May 22 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Seriously, it's been a difficult part of this strike. Public opinion has been against the strikers from the start, and keeps dropping.May 22 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Lockerbie: Case closed - YouTube http://goo.gl/bqq71 #falseflag #stateterrorism #libya #usa #uk also http://goo.gl/NUm7g #docsMay 22 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think it'd be great at this point to call an election. Great way to take this issue to the polls.May 22 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] The student strike stopped being about expressing ideas and started being about being so disruptive as to make the government give in.May 22 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] That's interesting. Why do you think that it's not truthful?May 22 20:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Do you mean "doesn't seem truthful" or "doesn't fit the narrative"?May 22 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Do you mean the poll results, or the law?May 22 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - On Indefinite Detention: The Tyranny Continues | by Ron Paul http://goo.gl/WoJv9 #usa #policestate #ndaaMay 22 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Silicon Island: Gtk+ Kick Start Tutorial for Vala" http://ur1.ca/9afz7 May 22 20:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] "Vala/Documentation - GNOME Live!" http://ur1.ca/9afzq May 22 20:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] But I know why they're being used: to force concessions from a democratically-elected government against the will of the people.May 22 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @dbd #Diablo3 is #DefectiveByDesign #DRM #Error37 http://identi.ca/url/69929431May 22 20:23
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formic_schestowitz - heyMay 22 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] But this is a case where very few of the citizens actually want this particular change.May 22 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] FSF associate members -- I don't see most of you on http://identi.ca/url/69932136 -- get stuck in and ask questions! :)May 22 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] voted for "Richard Stallman"May 22 20:33
schestowitzformic_: heyMay 22 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Absolutely. And if you're in the middle of a crowd wearing red squares, it's very hard to believe that you're not in the majority.May 22 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] I think at this point the only fair thing to do is call an election.May 22 20:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @mattl FSF associate members -- I don't see most of you on http://ur1.ca/9ag1j -- get stuck in and ask questions! :)May 22 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @dbd #Diablo3 is #DefectiveByDesign #DRM #Error37 http://ur1.ca/9af3rMay 22 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @iloveubuntu Ubuntu One adds Paypal support !ubuntu http://ur1.ca/9afvtMay 22 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @kdecommunity !KDE announces the Make Play Live Partner Network → http://ur1.ca/9aftlMay 22 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz "potential source for sales is the open-source Linux based Ultrabook" http://ur1.ca/9afmu #linuxMay 22 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz World's 'simplest' Linux laptop reaches the UK http://ur1.ca/9afjv #gnu #linux #ukMay 22 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @schestowitz Samsung And HTC Working On Tizen OS-Powered Smarphones, Acer And ASUS Netbooks Will Follow http://ur1.ca/9afje #linux #tizenMay 22 20:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] That weird story of the SAP guy, Lego, barcodes? He sold the stuff on eBay, made a few thousand, pulled the trick in a... http://b1t.it/bvcLMay 22 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] Good luck with that!May 22 20:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Cel mai tare player multimedia pentru televizor - stick USB cu Android 4.0 http://ur1.ca/9ag5f #android #romania #tv #linuxMay 22 20:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Google Acquires Motorola Mobility http://ur1.ca/9aeki #google #motorolaMay 22 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia 2 will be released in about five minutes! #MageiaMay 22 20:49
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formic_schestowitz - what did you mean the other dayMay 22 20:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Page: Motorola Mobility acquisition is key to Google's future http://ur1.ca/9aemt #motorola #googleMay 22 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] A uTouch architecture introduction http://ur1.ca/9ag6oMay 22 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] 2 Drivers To Dell's Earnings And $25 Fair Value http://ur1.ca/9afmu #dell #linux #businessMay 22 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Samsung And HTC Working On #Tizen OS-Powered Smarphones, Acer And ASUS Netbooks Will Follow http://ur1.ca/9afje #linuxMay 22 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @sebsebseb !Mageia 2 will be released in about five minutes! #MageiaMay 22 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] World's 'simplest' Linux laptop reaches the UK http://ur1.ca/9afjv #uk #gnu #linuxMay 22 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Austrian government moves its open source project to EC's Joinup http://ur1.ca/9ag7t #eu #joinup #austria #foss #egovtMay 22 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] New !Mageia website has been there for a little while now, but some testing is being done or has been done. #MageiaMay 22 20:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] @fontana: Copyleft is all down to @cwebber now?May 22 21:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !Mageia 2 is out!! http://www.mageia.org/en/ #gnulinux \o/May 22 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Its not offically out untill the blog post and press release is on the website!May 22 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @sebsebseb ooooops! well, the website is visually ready, some noise will be good, I guess :DMay 22 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Convenția internațională a arhitecților 2012 http://ur1.ca/9agbq #romania #monarchy #royalMay 22 21:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 55 dents!May 22 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] UX / Design team at LibreOffice launches G+ page and calls for templates http://ur1.ca/9aglh #OfficeMay 22 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Its not offically out untill the blog post and press release is on the website!May 22 21:18
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formic_schestowitzMay 22 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] NYPD officer threatens man with rape in cellphone video http://identi.ca/url/69933330May 22 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] How about we pass this into law: http://ur1.ca/7wxppMay 22 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @sebsebseb you were saying? http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/05/22/mageia-2/ xDMay 22 21:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Then give all copyright holders 1 year to register works they want to keep copyright. Others go copyleft after the year is up.May 22 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Will It Come To This? http://ur1.ca/6q2l5 No comments yet?May 22 21:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] It wasn't offically out then, but now it is: http://ur1.ca/9agohMay 22 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Want to work with a graphic artist to design a logo etc, for Begin & Persist http://ur1.ca/9agoiMay 22 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Yes, but it wasn't offically out then, but now it is :) hence the blog post.May 22 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Olympic official 'willing to sell tickets to black market' http://goo.gl/FntXB #London2012May 22 21:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] FCC Boss: You Should Pay for Internet By How Much You Use [POLL] http://ur1.ca/9agqq #poll #fcc #internet #ispMay 22 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NewsInternational executives should face possibility of jail, says MP http://goo.gl/HPoIoMay 22 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Another tiny computer: VIA's $49 APC offers Android, HDMI video out http://ur1.ca/9agr4 #via #computer #androidMay 22 21:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Our baby’s growing up: Mageia 2 is here http://ur1.ca/9agoh #mageia #gnu #linux #fossMay 22 21:34
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DaemonFClol, I Have this bill collector thing down to a TMay 22 21:35
DaemonFCOne just called me and I said "Under the terms of the federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act I am informing you that I consider any time you could possibly call me to be inconvenient and if you need me to send you a certified letter to that effect, I would be more than happy to do that."May 22 21:37
DaemonFCshe says "Can I verify your address?"May 22 21:37
DaemonFCI say "No, I don't believe we will be doing that."May 22 21:37
DaemonFCshe says "Have a nice day"May 22 21:37
DaemonFCI say "bye bye!"May 22 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Flat taxes – a great way to help the poorest pay for the richest http://goo.gl/BD2HKMay 22 21:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Flat taxes – a great way to help the poorest pay for the richest | Richard Murphy | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 269.65 KBMay 22 21:39
DaemonFChttp://whocalled.us/lookup/2604232145May 22 21:42
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DaemonFCheheMay 22 21:42
DaemonFClet Google flesh them out when people go looking for who that wasMay 22 21:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #KVM is emerging as the preferred #hypervisor for #OpenStack testing & deployments http://bit.ly/JmTREk #openKVM #OVAMay 22 21:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @mageia Our baby’s growing up: Mageia 2 is here http://dlvr.it/1c2QhXMay 22 21:44
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DaemonFChttp://mrnumber.com/1-260-423-2145May 22 21:45
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formic_funMay 22 21:46
DaemonFChttp://www.namethatnumber.net/phone-call/1-260-423-2145May 22 21:46
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DaemonFCput those fuckers in a databaseMay 22 21:46
DaemonFCB-)May 22 21:46
formic_collection agency?May 22 21:47
DaemonFCyeahMay 22 21:47
DaemonFChttp://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-260-423-2145May 22 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Being able to go to bed with windows opened, listening to raindrops outside - priceless after 11 days of A/C only in the Arab region :-)May 22 21:49
DaemonFChttp://www.numberzoom.com/phone_lookup/260-423-2145May 22 21:52
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DaemonFCheheMay 22 21:53
DaemonFCthat ought to lower their return call rate just a littleMay 22 21:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] "Googarola" is done deal as of today. Long-time mobile/embedded writer Eric Brown shares the importance: bit.ly/JmXU3v #linuxMay 22 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Five Things to Look Forward to in Linux Mint 13 'Maya' http://ur1.ca/9agur #linux #gnu #mintMay 22 21:59
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formic_lol daemonfcMay 22 22:02
formic_you're not too brilliantMay 22 22:02
DaemonFC?May 22 22:02
formic_what if someone calls that number pretending to be you to gain personal info?May 22 22:02
formic_Ryan FarmerMay 22 22:02
DaemonFCthen the only thing they would say is how much money I owe them, maybe, if thatMay 22 22:03
formic_your credit rating might suffer too since google + irc logs + evil bankersMay 22 22:03
DaemonFCif anyone else wants to pay them $10,000 for me then I'd much appreciate itMay 22 22:03
formic_Ryan Farmer has bad credit ?May 22 22:03
DaemonFCoh fuck that, there's nothing left to do to me that they haven't already doneMay 22 22:03
formic_People can find your addressMay 22 22:04
DaemonFCif they want to sue me they can go right aheadMay 22 22:04
formic_maybe even date of birth, sin, etcMay 22 22:04
DaemonFCthere's nothing for them to takeMay 22 22:04
formic_what if some right wing nut windows user finds your address and blows you upMay 22 22:04
DaemonFCI'm more afraid of the people I live next door to than anyone on the internetMay 22 22:05
DaemonFCspeaking of which, they cut Dawn's phone off today and charged her a disconnect fee of $400May 22 22:05
DaemonFCthat's AT&T for youMay 22 22:06
DaemonFCbefore I signed up for their DSL I made sure there weren't any of those "You have to keep it for two years" dealsMay 22 22:06
DaemonFCapparently they offer dry loop DSL month to month but if you add a phone line to it, they can charge an early termination fee if you don't keep it for a yearMay 22 22:07
DaemonFCisn't the law wonderful?May 22 22:07
MinceRgnMay 22 22:07
DaemonFCI don't get why anyone would want a landline phone on their DSL accountMay 22 22:07
DaemonFCall it's good for is to add line noise and give bill collectors another way to call youMay 22 22:08
DaemonFC:)May 22 22:08
DaemonFCback when I had a landline I just disconnected the phone until I wanted to make a callMay 22 22:09
DaemonFCit was inconvenient but the phone company charged extra for outgoing-only lines for some reasonMay 22 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Internet Defense League - http://bit.ly/LkYlxw interesting, & sadly necessary (v @rmack) #sopa #acta #tppMay 22 22:11
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DaemonFCformic_, Now I just get to decide when I will cut the TV service to the people downstairsMay 22 22:14
DaemonFCthere's only one power supply and guess who has itMay 22 22:14
DaemonFC:)May 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 2.6.34.12 http://ur1.ca/9agwwMay 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Mageia 2 is out http://ur1.ca/9agwxMay 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Introducing “#Mozilla Webmaker:” helping the world make the web - http://bit.ly/KxQ5Z8 "move from using the web to making the web"May 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @laurentromary: @NeelieKroesEU Require free access to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer- http://p.ost.im/p/etyg6RMay 22 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Your choices make a world of difference http://t.co/X3KWfOeX. #greenweek http://p.ost.im/p/etUwwSMay 22 22:14
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DaemonFCI suppose I'll yank it when my satellite box goes to reauthorize and can't and locks me outMay 22 22:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Collection of #Rendition Data - http://bit.ly/KwukH9 great project on terrible events #opendata #tortureMay 22 22:16
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DaemonFCDirecTV refreshes the authorizations lists around midnight every night, so the scumbags downstairs will get to wake up with no TV tomorrowMay 22 22:16
DaemonFCthen they will have to call DirecTV, make an appointment, and pay the $70 service call to find out what went wrongMay 22 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF's Members-Only Speakeasy: Bay Area is on 6/7! Look for your email invite this Thursday. https://eff.org/r.3ab3May 22 22:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Malaysians Seek Compulsory License For Abbott AIDS Drug - http://bit.ly/JboImd more generics desperately neededMay 22 22:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ‘Father of the #Internet’ warns Web freedom is under attack http://goo.gl/dAuUZ #cerf #tptb #policestateMay 22 22:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirate Bay Simplifies Circumvention of ISP Blockades - http://bit.ly/KRh6Xq & so it goes on #censorshipMay 22 22:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @dbd #Diablo3 is #DefectiveByDesign #DRM #Error37 http://ur1.ca/9af3rMay 22 22:28
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=BWzU41YxFcoMay 22 22:28
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rVI4_6999M&feature=relmfuMay 22 22:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Darpa, #Venter Launch Assembly Line for Genetic Engineering - http://bit.ly/JEqscH what could possibly go wrong? #weaponsMay 22 22:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Arduino 1.0.1 release includes Arduino Leonardo support and multiple translations - http://bit.ly/KwwQwW good to seeMay 22 22:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] It's official! Dutch 3-strikes/DPI/net neutrality law - http://bit.ly/JlR7L7 kudosMay 22 22:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] W3C Launches Indie UI Working Group http://ow.ly/1jXV45May 22 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I missed it - congratz to @mlinksva, @csolisr and others on being selected to the Future of !Copyright Anthology! bit.ly/Kwz9A6 !ccMay 22 22:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Emanuela #Orlandi: Missing girl 'buried in mobster's tomb was kidnapped for #Vatican sex parties' | Mail Online http://goo.gl/ea0at #xfilesMay 22 22:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Here's The Inside Story Of What Happened On The #Facebook IPO - http://read.bi/KJAuJu if true, this will be fun (v @ruskin147 @robinwauters)May 22 22:56
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DaemonFCanyone know of a good indoor antenna + amplifier?May 22 22:57
DaemonFCI'm going to go that routeMay 22 22:57
DaemonFCI don't watch enough cable TV anymore to justify what it costsMay 22 22:58
DaemonFC8 years ago it cost about half of what it does nowMay 22 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] A Tale of Two Pwnies (Part 1) http://ur1.ca/9ah6sMay 22 23:01
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DaemonFCthe level of greed at the MAFIAA is such that it would make the oil cartels blushMay 22 23:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 60TB Disk Drives Could Be a Reality In 2016 - http://bit.ly/JlTJsc that's #spotify in a box; think about it... #abundanceMay 22 23:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] we've been working on it for some months¸ finally announced: a professional services network for Make·Play·Live http://ur1.ca/9aftlMay 22 23:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Announcing the Make Play Live Partner Network | KDE.news .::. Size~: 11.48 KBMay 22 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] will be writing more about it in the weeks to come; one more step in our goal of building a self-sustaining economy around KDE and F/OSSMay 22 23:11
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwNDcMay 22 23:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Microsoft DirectX Back-End Support For Qt .::. Size~: 17.16 KBMay 22 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Real Estate Listing Services Use Questionable Copyright Claims In Attempt To Block Criticism Of Agents http://goo.gl/JCP1PMay 22 23:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RunKeeper dumps Windows Phone, citing limited usership http://goo.gl/GrmDs shit happens without subsidies #wp7May 22 23:24
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schestowitz""the following sites are informed"... Nice sensationalism" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639847May 22 23:36
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schestowitz"So, because of what one employee says, it means she speaks for the company as a whole? That makes sense. </sarcasm>" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1639846May 22 23:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Giza 3D - Dassault Systèmes http://goo.gl/A8lFbMay 22 23:58
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