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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1652380 | May 28 08:29 |
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| TechrightsSocial | Not a Diaspora post? | May 28 08:29 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz Which kind of problem? | May 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz | @Will Hill Also I agree that using GPG is a good thing. You shouldn't send plaintext information over the wire. It just doesn't fit the current dimension of the problem imo. The network infrastructure has to change. | May 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz | Small ISP's ,mail servers (or small hosts) get blacklisted. This caused me social harm over time. | May 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz | "How is this an #Ubuntu story?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1629575 | May 28 08:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a Diaspora post? | May 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz | this is quite cool https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1655060# | May 28 08:32 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a Diaspora post? | May 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1641490 | May 28 08:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a Diaspora post? | May 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | @Bugs Bane Don't you think that main stream (unpolitical) people will reject Eben because of his relation to marxist and anarchist thought? Take "Anarchist Triumphant" (1) for example. RMS is a lot more focused on programming and the practical dimension of it (although he gets historical in similar ways at times). I know what you mean, but the appeal to different audiences of both is not really transparent to me. Do you have | May 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | some insights to which audience who talked in the past or even which feedback they both got? I also understand your argument that you have to reach your audience and that the "Yes"-answer (to a screwed troll question), is not necessarily the best in a tactical sense. My point is that it can be though... because it is founded in critical thought and proven right in the long run. Also the audience is not monolithic so both can | May 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | appeal to different parts of the audiences and this would then be a very good thing or not? RMS has pushed a lot of developers to free software issues which have been pretty technical, while Eben rather focuses on the legal part imho. Do you think Moglen would have answered differently especially after this very moralistic speech about how important open media are for humanity *now* and how our children might live in an | May 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | unreversible surveillance state? (If he wouldn't have rejected the question in the first place.) How would he respond if you say you have to work for Facebook to feed your children? | May 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | (1) http://moglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/anarchism.html | May 28 08:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Anarchism Triumphant .::. Size~: 81.28 KB | May 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | " | May 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks! When you stabilize it will be interesting to understand the various | May 28 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > alg. that you are running and the profiling for the time lost from | May 28 09:40 |
| schestowitz | > 12fps->0.1 . Do the debug and then update us. Keep up the good work. | May 28 09:40 |
| schestowitz | I need to research the feasibility of computer vision on phones/tablets | May 28 09:40 |
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| MinceR | http://iseeahappyface.com/upload/say-people524.jpg | May 28 13:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | May 28 13:18 |
| qU1j0t3 | "How would he respond if you say you have to work for Facebook │ | May 28 14:43 |
| qU1j0t3 | to feed your children?" | May 28 14:43 |
| qU1j0t3 | or a weapons maker | May 28 14:43 |
| XFaCE | qU1j0t3: http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/u85db/are_you_aware_of_bill_c38_where_it_allows_usa_to/ | May 28 15:09 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Are you aware of Bill C-38 where it allows USA to police in Canada and.. : canada .::. Size~: 258.66 KB | May 28 15:09 |
| schestowitz | qU1j0t3: feed children with TNR | May 28 15:25 |
| schestowitz | TNT | May 28 15:25 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: hi | May 28 15:28 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Will finsish C-11 article soon | May 28 15:28 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Though I might have to change it's subject a bit | May 28 15:28 |
| XFaCE | to "the absolute destruction of the country of Canada" :S | May 28 15:29 |
| qU1j0t3 | :< | May 28 15:29 |
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| schestowitz | XFaCE: cool :-) | May 28 15:43 |
| schestowitz | qU1j0t3: been thinking something... | May 28 15:58 |
| schestowitz | One can't help thinking that the militarism in the US and UK eats up money | May 28 15:58 |
| qU1j0t3 | right | May 28 15:59 |
| schestowitz | but is it fair to say that without imperialism and military presence (e.g. carriers) countires would be less dependent on hhe imperialist? | May 28 15:59 |
| qU1j0t3 | eats it up, moves it around. | May 28 15:59 |
| qU1j0t3 | to certain hands | May 28 15:59 |
| schestowitz | And that therefore, there's another component which makes it more like an investment than a waste in their eyes? | May 28 15:59 |
| schestowitz | They need to show presence | May 28 15:59 |
| schestowitz | It's like a doorman | May 28 15:59 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: there's a lot of investment in maintaining the perception that the bully's role is important. | May 28 15:59 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: thanks Mr Murdoch, again | May 28 16:00 |
| schestowitz | how so? | May 28 16:00 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: so yes | May 28 16:00 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: mainstream media paints it as a necessary investment, indeed. | May 28 16:00 |
| qU1j0t3 | "Or we will be overrun by the |Soviet|Chinese|Iranian|Korean|Taliban| hordes!" | May 28 16:00 |
| schestowitz | leadrs are terrified of not obeyiny US will | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | but won't mind ignoring Iran's | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | It's because it deterrence and terror | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | the terror imposed by US presence | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | proactively | May 28 16:01 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: the asymmetry has to be considered. The US spends approximately half of the *entire world*'s weapons budget. | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | yeah | May 28 16:01 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: that makes no sense. | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | and it reigns polict | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | copyright, fiscal, etc. | May 28 16:01 |
| schestowitz | *policy | May 28 16:02 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: all those policies are backed militarily. | May 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz | it make its own the intl' standard | May 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz | imagine a world with no copyrights | May 28 16:02 |
| qU1j0t3 | schestowitz: but it rarely comes to that; look at how "free trade" agreements are coerced | May 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz | the US corporation would not have nearly as much power, financially | May 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz | free trade are and argumbnt FOR it | May 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz | look at foreign labour | May 28 16:02 |
| schestowitz | some greedy bastards exploits intl' inequality | May 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz | they get their corruptible politicians to approve their business model | May 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz | and they then sell foreign labour at below cost (lower than minimum wage) to other people, under a state's exceptional consent | May 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz | it's corruption | May 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz | and the whole "free trade" BS lets it be | May 28 16:03 |
| schestowitz | the superorganism | May 28 16:05 |
| qU1j0t3 | yes it's the fundamental free market contradiction | May 28 16:11 |
| qU1j0t3 | 'we have to coerce you so that our free market ideology will work to benefit us' etc | May 28 16:11 |
| schestowitz | free for one side | May 28 16:28 |
| schestowitz | slavery to another | May 28 16:28 |
| schestowitz | qU1j0t3: Mark Zuckerberg's 10 evil seconds 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10AwQKKe4dk&feature=relmfu #zuckerberg #facebook | May 28 17:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Mark Zuckerberg's 10 evil seconds 2 - YouTube .::. Size~: 101.87 KB | May 28 17:29 |
| schestowitz | mark zuckerberg's 10 evil seconds (my) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGlTBlrJ10A #zuckerberg #facebook | May 28 17:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: mark zuckerberg's 10 evil seconds (my) - YouTube .::. Size~: 98.39 KB | May 28 17:29 |
| schestowitz | the first one is new to me | May 28 17:30 |
| qU1j0t3 | http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1201520--tony-blair-tells-hacking-inquiry-he-feared-provoking-wrath-of-u-k-media?bn=1 | May 28 18:02 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: World News: Tony Blair tells hacking inquiry he feared provoking wrath of U.K. media - thestar.com .::. Size~: 115.06 KB | May 28 18:02 |
| qU1j0t3 | XFaCE: https://twitter.com/margaretresin/status/207159206007156736 | May 28 18:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | @margaretresin: #cdnpoli All Canadians should be out on the street banging their pots and pans to protest fraudulent govt. http://t.co/defAoLoS | May 28 18:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Montreal Pots And Pans Video Of Protest Against Bill 78 Goes Viral .::. Size~: 374.83 KB | May 28 18:53 |
| qU1j0t3 | XFaCE: https://twitter.com/ElizabethMay/status/207166405718712321 | May 28 18:54 |
| TechrightsSocial | @ElizabethMay: Green Party press release: May Urges Opposition/Public to Stop Bill #C38 #GPC #cdnpoli http://t.co/twXjlEmt | May 28 18:54 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: May Urges Opposition/Public to Stop Bill C-38 | Green Party of Canada .::. Size~: 25.3 KB | May 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | qU1j0t3: did you see the route map that the protesters gave the police? | May 28 19:17 |
| schestowitz | it gives the finger | May 28 19:18 |
| qU1j0t3 | heh | May 28 19:18 |
| schestowitz | did you see it? | May 28 19:18 |
| schestowitz | they marked a route | May 28 19:18 |
| schestowitz | and it makes up the shape of hand giving the finger | May 28 19:19 |
| schestowitz | !google montreal students finger map | May 28 19:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | [1] - Guess What The Montreal Student Protesters Gave The Police ... | http://weknowmemes.com/2012/05/guess-what-the-montreal-student-protesters-gave-the-police/ | May 28 19:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | [2] - Here's What Montreal's Students Protesters Responded With When ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/montreal-police-march-route-2012-5 | May 28 19:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | [3] - VIA Rail Canada / AirConnect to Montréal-Trudeau | http://www.viarail.ca/affaires/en_affa_airc.html | May 28 19:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | [4] - Student strike rumours run rampant: Part two | OpenFile | http://montreal.openfile.ca/blog/montreal/2012/student-strike-rumours-run-rampant-part-two | May 28 19:19 |
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| qU1j0t3 | http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/05/28/1647237/flame-the-massive-stuxnet-level-malware-sweeping-the-middle-east | May 28 21:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Flame: The Massive Stuxnet-Level Malware Sweeping the Middle East - Slashdot .::. Size~: 112.49 KB | May 28 21:21 |
| qU1j0t3 | .b 2 | May 28 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | Nicee.. | May 28 23:02 |
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