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XFaCEqU1j0t3: a legacy of sabotageMay 31 00:34
qU1j0t3XFaCE: instablock material: https://twitter.com/Cz858Shooter/status/207953851595231232May 31 01:35
TechrightsSocial@Cz858Shooter: @qu1j0t3 GREAT NEWS!  Government not swallowing the #climatechange cultism coolaid.May 31 01:35
qU1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/occupySYDNEY/status/207991236139823104May 31 01:36
TechrightsSocial@occupySYDNEY: "@Keyweekat Search + Surveillance Bill passes New Zealand has been turned into a "police state" http://t.co/QLpEqNdb"May 31 01:36
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Twitter / ? .::. Size~: 5.67 KBMay 31 01:36
XFaCEqU1j0t3: not surpriseMay 31 01:38
XFaCErick wakefield is another connie muppetMay 31 01:38
XFaCEhttp://www.richardwakefield.org/May 31 01:38
TechrightsSocialTitle: Horbury and South Ossett | Conservatives | competitors of Graham Jesty, wakefield labour | Horbury and Ossett South .::. Size~: 15.47 KBMay 31 01:39
qU1j0t3i won't be hearing from him for a while :)May 31 01:39
qU1j0t3https://twitter.com/Ziggy_Daddy/status/207914922330423296May 31 01:40
TechrightsSocial@Ziggy_Daddy: Addicting Info | Four-Year-Old Sings ‘Ain’t No Homos Going To Make It To Heaven’ – Receives Standing Ovation (VIDEO) http://t.co/tloWm1LRMay 31 01:41
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Four-Year-Old Sings ‘Ain’t No Homos Going To Make It To Heaven’ – Receives Standing Ovation (VIDEO) | Addicting Info .::. Size~: 56.91 KBMay 31 01:41
qU1j0t3https://twitter.com/Ziggy_Daddy/status/207904246069329920May 31 01:42
TechrightsSocial@Ziggy_Daddy: @RobAlle05124660 do not construe my proclivity for using the term douchebag to describe #Republicans as a sign of a limited vocabularyMay 31 01:42
XFaCEqU1j0t3: oopsMay 31 01:46
XFaCEthat was in the ukMay 31 01:46
XFaCEmore likely this guy http://ontag.farms.com/profile/RichardWakefieldMay 31 01:46
TechrightsSocialTitle: Richard Wakefield's Page - Ontario Agriculture .::. Size~: 38.66 KBMay 31 01:46
XFaCEqU1j0t3: dickwad wrote a bookMay 31 01:49
XFaCEhttp://www.amazon.com/Blinding-White-Flash-Richard-Wakefield/dp/1935991353May 31 01:49
TechrightsSocialTitle: Amazon.com: Blinding White Flash (9781935991359): J. Richard Wakefield: Books .::. Size~: 313.37 KBMay 31 01:49
XFaCEqU1j0t3: kMay 31 01:51
XFaCEkMay 31 01:51
XFaCEqU1j0t3: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/tory-senators-kill-climate-bill-passed-by-house/article1802519/May 31 01:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: Tory senators kill climate bill passed by House - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 107.75 KBMay 31 01:51
XFaCEthat was from 2010...May 31 01:51
qU1j0t3damn it! we need to go back in time and tell them!May 31 01:57
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2627May 31 09:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal .::. Size~: 23.44 KBMay 31 09:14
roy_> Hi Roy,May 31 13:26
roy_> May 31 13:26
roy_> It came to my notice that you posted about our coverage of open buildMay 31 13:26
roy_> service. I am under impression that post Novell's death, it is now safeMay 31 13:26
roy_> to cover openSUSE and the technologies developed by the teams as I thinkMay 31 13:26
roy_> it is more or less a community driven project. As much as Greg, despiteMay 31 13:26
roy_> a SUSE employee was a kernel developer first. So, I just want to checkMay 31 13:26
roy_> with you if it is fine/ok to cover openSUSE and services like OBS? WhatMay 31 13:26
roy_> are your caveats.May 31 13:26
roy_OpenSUSE is not a communitu project, it is a product of Attachmate with even the trademarks owned by this company. Like Fedora, it's a company's recruitment tool for the enrichment of others (the same could be argued about Ubuntu for Canonical, unlike Debian). What makes OpenSUSE unique is that the company it helps is in turn helping Microsoft, unlike Canonical and Red Hat. To drive progress in society sometimes we need to shun May 31 13:26
roy_those who are barriers and reward those who do the right thing. :-)May 31 13:26
*roy_ is now known as schestowitzMay 31 13:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1664050May 31 13:51
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Some people trust Google to take care of the Internet (because they got Cerf?), but since early days they didn't stick to Web standardsMay 31 13:51
schestowitz"I'd rather they collected no data on people than that they stick to web standards. Both would obviously be better though."May 31 13:52
schestowitzNot enough people hold their feet to the fire. So they won't change.May 31 13:52
MinceRwe all Cerf the web!May 31 13:52
schestowitzIf you want a great, speedy, KDE friendly browser you might want to take a look at #Qupzilla.May 31 13:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1664049'May 31 13:52
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Official Google Blog crashes my main browser and serves blank pages to another. What a pile of garbage. Same w/ Android Blog (must use JS).May 31 13:52
schestowitzthere are linu*** trolls in D*, e.g. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1664106May 31 13:53
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://is.gd/ActZo2) #Free your #mind !!! #Trash da #TV !!!May 31 13:53
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMay 31 13:53
MinceRblogger seems to require javascriptMay 31 13:53
MinceRit's a pile of shitMay 31 13:53
qU1j0t3schestowitz: yay! diaspora seems to work.May 31 13:53
schestowitzTroll classic: "and put on a tin-foil hat."May 31 13:53
schestowitzyeahMay 31 13:53
schestowitzBloggers is crap nowMay 31 13:53
schestowitzqU1j0t3: it does, very well in factMay 31 13:53
schestowitzMinceR: "I'll have to have a try some time - I've not used konqueror for a long time. It certainly works with firefox/iceweasel though, at least for me."May 31 13:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1664049May 31 13:55
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Official Google Blog crashes my main browser and serves blank pages to another. What a pile of garbage. Same w/ Android Blog (must use JS).May 31 13:55
schestowitzThey use JSMay 31 13:55
MinceRschestowitz: http://images.cryhavok.org/d/2481-1/You+Are+Being+Monitored.jpgMay 31 13:57
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeMay 31 13:57
MinceRas for diaspora, it works with firefox 7 but not with 3.6May 31 13:57
qU1j0t3i mean, the bot sniffs it fine now, MinceRMay 31 14:02
MinceRicMay 31 14:02
formic_08:52 < schestowitz> If you want a great, speedy, KDE friendly browser you might want to take a look at #Qupzilla.May 31 14:09
formic_It also doesn't crash when adding bookmarks! (TM)May 31 14:09
formic_Qupzilla +1May 31 14:09
schestowitz>> That's the conflict I am going through. Red Hat is the cleanest company.May 31 14:41
schestowitz>> If we look at Canonical, what they are developing is only for Ubuntu andMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> not for the rest of the community -- Ubuntu One etc. At the same timeMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> Canonical has started attacking Red Hat and Google (on the contrary theyMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> endorse and applaude Micrisoft/Apple). You must have read about Mark'sMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> latest dig on Red HatMay 31 14:41
schestowitzYes, I have seen that. It does not surprise me. At least Jono does not make snide remarks at Red Hat while sucking up to some Micropple every now and then.May 31 14:41
schestowitz>> Now if we look beyond that KDE/Qt/Gnome has Nokia as the biggestMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> backer/sponsor who are working with Microsoft as well, so what should weMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> do with KDE/Qt/Gnome? What to do with MySQL, VirtualBox, Btrfs which isMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> being developed by Oracle, who are in no way friends of open source?May 31 14:41
schestowitzOracle is quite new to the shitlist.. 2010 (CPTN and case against Google).May 31 14:41
schestowitz>> A lot of SUSE employees such as Greg KH have been enriching Linux?May 31 14:41
schestowitzHe left SUSE. He's an LF Fellow now. SUSE has no Linux celebs left.May 31 14:41
schestowitz>> I just want to be clear on this on philosophical/political grounds asMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> Muktware is more about philosophy than technology (Mukt in SanskritMay 31 14:41
schestowitz>> means Freedom).May 31 14:41
schestowitzThe aspect which is philosophical/political cannot be entirely be separated from engineering. Code induces behaviour and rules.May 31 14:41
formic_its toughMay 31 15:13
schestowitzyupMay 31 15:16
oiaohmUbuntu behavour is exactly like Mandrake of old.May 31 15:17
oiaohmWe know they are going to shoot there mouth off.May 31 15:17
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formic_schestowitz-andrMay 31 15:18
formic_http://imgur.com/NKEi7May 31 15:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: imgur: the simple image sharer .::. Size~: 9.02 KBMay 31 15:19
formic_even android can be turned evilMay 31 15:21
formic_by Bell, no lessMay 31 15:21
oiaohmformic_: all tech is a weapon.May 31 15:25
oiaohmformic_: question is how is it being used.May 31 15:25
formic_no, some tech can be turned into a weaponMay 31 15:26
formic_not always the caseMay 31 15:26
oiaohmformic_: try to name a tech that cannot be used as a weapon.May 31 15:26
formic_a solar power generatorMay 31 15:26
oiaohmformic_: produced power you can kill someone with.May 31 15:27
formic_if you actually want to play that game, anything could be turned into a weaponMay 31 15:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94176029May 31 15:27
TechrightsSocial@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Thursday, 31-May-12 14:21:03 UTC - linuxwrangling: @schestowitz I can't imagine doing embedded development without JTAG or similar, much less in Java.May 31 15:27
MinceRany object is a weapon :>May 31 15:27
oiaohmformic_: that is the point of the statement.May 31 15:28
schestowitznot a Weqpon of Choice ^_^May 31 15:28
formic_food is a weapon when you deny countries in order to enforce treatiesMay 31 15:28
oiaohmEverything is a weapon.May 31 15:28
oiaohmWe have to be aware of that.May 31 15:28
formic_so then your statement is pointlessMay 31 15:28
schestowitzsneeze can be a weapon tooMay 31 15:28
schestowitzit's a germ dissemination chemical weaponMay 31 15:28
schestowitzand it reuses human anatomy to spreadMay 31 15:28
formic_if everything IS a weapon, than nothing is not, and there is no distinctionMay 31 15:28
formic_pointlessMay 31 15:28
schestowitzwhat is weapon?May 31 15:29
schestowitzLet's be phislosphical..May 31 15:29
oiaohmformic_: but a weapon does not have to be used todo harm.May 31 15:29
schestowitzit's define as something that can induce wounds or deathMay 31 15:29
schestowitzusually to a person, but not necessarilyMay 31 15:29
schestowitzif I shoot a missile at an asteroid, is that a weapon?May 31 15:29
formic_wounds or death, not deep enoughMay 31 15:29
schestowitzThe asteroid is not an organic targetMay 31 15:29
formic_you could have an emotional weapon, or one that harms in ways non-physicalMay 31 15:30
schestowitzna...May 31 15:30
schestowitzthat's metaphorMay 31 15:30
formic_lets say you embargo a country, food becomes a weaponMay 31 15:30
formic_'comply, and you can eat'May 31 15:30
schestowitzdon't get me started on people who say they're subjected to violence and then they clarify that it's "verbal abuse"May 31 15:30
schestowitzthere's violenceMay 31 15:30
schestowitzand then there's something elseMay 31 15:31
schestowitzLike Gods typically means something specificMay 31 15:31
schestowitznot a metaphorMay 31 15:31
oiaohmBefore android mobile phones where used to spy on peopleMay 31 15:31
formic_lol verbal abuseMay 31 15:31
formic_i agree with you royMay 31 15:31
oiaohmBefore phones buggingMay 31 15:31
schestowitzI could label the universe God and then say "I am certain of God, I see evidence for it"May 31 15:31
formic_I was talking about it yesterdayMay 31 15:31
schestowitzyeahMay 31 15:31
schestowitztypicalMay 31 15:31
formic_absolute freedom of speech, people being offended is no reason to restrict wordsMay 31 15:31
schestowitzsome idiotic image revolved around recentlyMay 31 15:31
schestowitzshows man shouting with a punch coming outside his mouthMay 31 15:32
schestowitzas though cursing something is the same as whipping and hurtingMay 31 15:32
schestowitzthose are distinct and should be treated as suchMay 31 15:32
formic_blasphemy!May 31 15:32
oiaohmThere is no such thing as absolute freedom.May 31 15:32
formic_heretic!May 31 15:32
formic_oiaohm: as long as you'll trade freedom for benefits or rulesMay 31 15:32
oiaohmAnywhere that tries absolute freedom normally ends up with a lot of deathsMay 31 15:32
schestowitzfreedom cannot have a true meaningMay 31 15:32
schestowitzit's not an objectMay 31 15:33
schestowitzit's a stateMay 31 15:33
schestowitzit's like defining speedMay 31 15:33
schestowitzor timeMay 31 15:33
schestowitzor defining "one"May 31 15:33
oiaohmformic_: Its like one jail in one country they got sick of dead prison guards.May 31 15:33
formic_with the planet colonized, the only way to get freedom now is to leaveMay 31 15:33
schestowitzToday I rose past a garden of memorialMay 31 15:33
oiaohmSo one day they just placed guards around the prison and let the prisons do what every they liked.May 31 15:33
schestowitzIt's about some who died for GBMay 31 15:34
schestowitzAnd it says they died for "Freedom"May 31 15:34
schestowitzI wasn't too sure about itMay 31 15:34
oiaohmLost half the population in there before they designed some rules.May 31 15:34
schestowitzFor all I know they may have been occupiersMay 31 15:34
oiaohmthemselves.May 31 15:34
schestowitzBy the way, I fell off the bike (terrible weather) and got bruisedMay 31 15:34
schestowitzsecond time in a weekMay 31 15:34
oiaohmformic_: thing I believe in is not absolute freedom because I know that is a fools quest.  But the min number of rules so we can get along.May 31 15:35
oiaohmformic_: like no killing is a good start.May 31 15:35
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/uds3yMay 31 15:49
TechrightsSocialTitle: South Carolina Student Files Lawsuit Against School District For Prayer During Graduation via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.71 KBMay 31 15:49
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formic_why are hypephone's so heavyMay 31 16:24
formic_and thickMay 31 16:24
formic_http://www.lg.com/ca_en/mobile-phones/all-phones/LG-P930.jspMay 31 16:33
TechrightsSocialTitle: LG Optimus LTE | LG-P930 4.5 inch true HD IPS display | LG Electronics Canada .::. Size~: 83.6 KBMay 31 16:33
formic_this phone kicks so much assMay 31 16:34
formic_it has HDTV outMay 31 16:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94177400May 31 16:42
TechrightsSocial@Pedro Gras (ghostdancer)'s status on Thursday, 31-May-12 15:18:28 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz which app started the service? or is it on by default?May 31 16:42
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/1668633May 31 16:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: ## Thank you ## ... .::. Size~: 12.87 KBMay 31 16:43
schestowitzHey everyoneMay 31 16:43
schestowitzSome days ago I asked for someone to overtake the account (https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1660760). Someone suggested Dr. Roy Schestowitz and the 'nomination' got supported by others too. So I think he'll do a good job. I wish him all the best!May 31 16:43
TechrightsSocial@linux@joindiaspora.com: ## WANTED: New owner for @Linux ## Hello everyone My followers will have found that I haven't posted anything in a long time. This is because of certain changes in my life and me just having less time on my hands. I was very busy over the last few months and I can't see it becoming any better soon. My initial goal was to run this account so the @Linux account would be active here on Diaspora, unlike on other neMay 31 16:43
schestowitzJust after posting this message, I'll pm the credentials to Dr. Roy and sign off. I thank all of the almost 1400 contacts of this account for their support!May 31 16:43
schestowitz"May 31 16:43
schestowitz> Hello Dr. Roy SchestowitzMay 31 16:57
schestowitz> I want to thank you for taking over the Linux account and > not letting it die of.May 31 16:57
schestowitzI dedicated years of my life to Linux advocacy. Even now that Linux advocacy is weakened by its ascend to mainstream status (mainly as Android and Red Hat in their respective areas) I still try to keep showing success stories and advantages of Linux. I've dedicated most of my postings to that. I will now post this without attribution to myself under the "Linux" account. Thanks so much for passing the baton. The victors here May 31 16:57
schestowitzare all who rely on the success of Linux.May 31 16:57
schestowitz> If you're having trouble signing in, please contact me on my personal account.May 31 16:57
schestowitzThis worked like a charm :-) I'll keep the credentials as they are so you can log iMay 31 16:57
schestowitz> The contacts on the Linux account are (somewhat)May 31 16:57
schestowitz> ordered. They're all the in the "Linux guys/girls" group.May 31 16:57
schestowitz> And I tried to put them in groups according to theMay 31 16:57
schestowitz> language too, but that didn't always work out...May 31 16:57
schestowitzThanks for that. Let me know if the posting style is acceptance by you. :-)May 31 16:57
schestowitz^^ good newsMay 31 16:57
schestowitzI operate the "Linux" account nowMay 31 16:57
qU1j0t3schestowitz congratsMay 31 16:58
schestowitzthanks :-)May 31 16:58
schestowitzthousands of followers on that one..May 31 16:58
XFaCEGeneration NT attack in 5...4...3...2...1...May 31 17:05
formic_lolMay 31 17:07
XFaCEschestowitz: Congrats tho :)May 31 17:20
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schestowitzXFaCE: thanksMay 31 17:56
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MinceRhttp://narf-archive.com/pix/6d54b1cd9201fca2048c997376f62d8067a5c1cf.png   http://bdtonline.com/local/x234177623/Washington-Post-story-Randy-Wolford-the-Serpent-handling-pastorMay 31 19:22
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeMay 31 19:22
TechrightsSocialTitle: Washington Post story: Randy Wolford, the Serpent-handling pastor »   Local News »   Bluefield Daily Telegraph, Bluefield, WV .::. Size~: 98.52 KBMay 31 19:22
formic_qU1j0t3: whats up with Richard Wakefield?May 31 19:37
qU1j0t3no idea, what's up with Richard Wakefield?May 31 19:53
formic_you said he was a dickwadMay 31 19:56
qU1j0t3no, i didn't.May 31 19:56
qU1j0t3but i don't care if he's a space alienMay 31 19:56
qU1j0t3i never heard of him until he appeared briefly in my TL, to quickly disappear againMay 31 19:57
formic_TL?May 31 19:59
qU1j0t3timelineMay 31 19:59
formic_oh my mistakeMay 31 19:59
formic_it was xfaceMay 31 19:59
formic_the dickwad's book actually looks interestingMay 31 20:00
XFaCEformic_: Yeah, the book actually looks kinda goodMay 31 21:00
XFaCEtoo bad the guy looks like a dickMay 31 21:00
formic_xface - why?May 31 21:54
XFaCEformic_: On twitter, his purpose seems to be get a rise out of peopleMay 31 21:56
formic_what is his twitterMay 31 22:01
formic_ill bug him a bitMay 31 22:01
formic_i bigged this one twitter troll who was starting controversy to boost his online malware removal business that charges $500 to remotely remove malwareMay 31 22:02
XFaCE[20:34] <qU1j0t3> XFaCE: instablock material: https://twitter.com/Cz858Shooter/status/207953851595231232May 31 22:03
TechrightsSocial@Cz858Shooter: @qu1j0t3 GREAT NEWS!  Government not swallowing the #climatechange cultism coolaid.May 31 22:03
formic_hes right wing?May 31 22:03
XFaCEformic_: He's stupid right wing.May 31 22:03
XFaCEI make a distinction now.May 31 22:03
formic_this is interesting, lolMay 31 22:04
formic_hes trolling a commieMay 31 22:04
formic_right wing vs left wingMay 31 22:04
XFaCEThe difference between the old Progressive Conservatives and the Reform Party and Harper Corporatist Fun ClubMay 31 22:04
formic_lets see who winsMay 31 22:04
XFaCEformic_: qU1j0t3 isn't a commieMay 31 22:04
formic_thats qU1j0t3 ?May 31 22:04
XFaCEformic_: he just uses that picture to get attentionMay 31 22:04
formic_ahhhMay 31 22:05
qU1j0t3maybe I am a commieMay 31 22:05
XFaCEqU1j0t3: you aren'tMay 31 22:05
qU1j0t3how would I tell?May 31 22:05
formic_qU1j0t3: do you like money?May 31 22:05
qU1j0t3not particularlyMay 31 22:05
formic_qU1j0t3: question two, do you think that everyone should earn the same income?May 31 22:06
formic_*everyone*May 31 22:06
qU1j0t3formic_: have you read Solzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago?May 31 22:06
XFaCEThat's a mouthfulMay 31 22:06
formic_qU1j0t3: I heard it's worth checking outMay 31 22:07
qU1j0t3i believe it isMay 31 22:07
formic_what is it about?May 31 22:07
qU1j0t3better still, it's worth reading.May 31 22:07
formic_also, gonna answer question 2 or no?May 31 22:07
formic_XFaCE: i got more followers than that dudeMay 31 22:31
XFaCEformic_: ok?,,,May 31 22:31
XFaCEformic_: qU1j0t3 ?May 31 22:45

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