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schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanJul 11 11:58
TechrightsBotTitle: Richard Stallman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 269.99 KBJul 11 11:58
schestowitz"Along with his native English, Stallman is also fluent enough in French and Spanish to deliver his two-hour speeches in those languages, and claims a "somewhat flawed" command of Indonesian"Jul 11 11:58
schestowitzI wonder how that last one came about..Jul 11 11:58
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Jul 11 14:42
schestowitz> Jul 11 14:42
schestowitz> Trying to contact Techrights web site's pages gives a 503 error fromJul 11 14:42
schestowitz> the Varnish servers.Jul 11 14:42
schestowitzYes, I got an alert and restarted apache. Thanks for the headsup, mate.Jul 11 14:42
schestowitzFor future reference, apache is started on centos as follows:Jul 11 14:42
schestowitz/etc/init.d/httpd restartJul 11 14:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1782093Jul 11 14:50
TechrightsBotNot a Diaspora post?Jul 11 14:50
schestowitz"Ah yes my mistake there."Jul 11 14:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1786694Jul 11 14:51
TechrightsBotNot a Diaspora post?Jul 11 14:51
schestowitz"Jul 11 14:51
schestowitzHe says, " I'm simply not willing to give away 10,000 books to sell 100. That doesn't make sense to me." and he's right if he's not so great an author. If he's good enough to put a few orders of magnitude on those numbers it does make sense. If 1,000,000 people read his book and he gets 10,000 sales, he will get what he wants. Books have always worked this way, if you consider public libraries, private lending and the resale market.Jul 11 14:52
schestowitzIf he wants people to buy his books, he will have to put up with the kind of private sharing people have always enjoyed. If I don't have my software freedom, I can't really buy his books anyway because I won't really own them. If I can't share a book, why would I buy it?Jul 11 14:52
schestowitz"Jul 11 14:52
schestowitzThis sentence could be an indicator of his real motives... "Many are okay with this, happy to be "good enough"." The people that he talks about, his readers... Probably most of them would love just to get by "good enough"... I know i would, but then again... i'm not a reader of his... :))Jul 11 14:52
schestowitz"Jul 11 14:52
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95313435Jul 11 15:02
TechrightsBot@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Jul-12 13:54:34 UTC - Identi.ca: While in #Nicaragua drinking Cerveza Toña☻ !Debian Still Deciding On Wheezy Successor http://ur1.ca/9rgc4 @schestowitz http://ur1.ca/9rh10Jul 11 15:02
TechrightsBot-> Title: [Phoronix] Debian Team Still Deciding On Wheezy Successor .::. Size~: 18.26 KBJul 11 15:02
TechrightsBot-> Title: http://file3.status.net/i/identica/metztli-20120711T135431-p456v7k.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 11.75 KBJul 11 15:02
schestowitz> I've added that option for %wheel in /etc/sudoers to speed up theJul 11 15:43
schestowitz> process.  I've also added a key for ssh to speed the log in.  You'llJul 11 15:43
schestowitz> find it in the directory .ssh and the passphrase is the same as theJul 11 15:43
schestowitz> password.Jul 11 15:43
schestowitzCool. It's good that another person is in charge of the server in case something bad ever happens to me. :-) Jul 11 15:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1787222Jul 11 15:43
TechrightsBotNot a Diaspora post?Jul 11 15:43
schestowitz"quite impressive. maybe #flattr would work for their micropayment system."Jul 11 15:43
schestowitz> In regards to the site, you're irreplaceable. :)Jul 11 18:15
schestowitzThanks. Groklaw is back with PJ too. RMS E-mailed me today, he's willing to do an interview with us.Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> Trying to find out what happened, I'm not sure but there is a possiblyJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> unrelated error in the /var/log/httpd/error_log:Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> $ grep MaxClients /var/log/httpd/error_logJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> [Sun Jul 08 19:41:52 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting,Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> consider raising the MaxClients settingJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> [Mon Jul 09 19:48:49 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting,Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> consider raising the MaxClients settingJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> [Tue Jul 10 19:41:28 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting,Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> consider raising the MaxClients settingJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> [Wed Jul 11 06:41:31 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting,Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> consider raising the MaxClients settingJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> [Wed Jul 11 07:12:34 2012] [error] server reached MaxClients setting,Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> consider raising the MaxClients settingJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> That's good news as far as popularity of the site goes, but we mightJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> consider increasing the MaxClients from 32.  It is inJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> /etc/http/conf/httpd.conf, right?  I checked with top (lacking a log)Jul 11 18:15
schestowitz> and we are not using more than just over half the RAM and no swap.  SoJul 11 18:15
schestowitz> it looks like there are resources for it.Jul 11 18:15
schestowitzThe VM had been adjusted not to overburden other VMs, so I never changed what Tracy decided on.Jul 11 18:16
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Jul 11 18:17
schestowitz> Jul 11 18:17
schestowitz> I also opened up /var/log/httpd for the group wheel (g+rx) so that theJul 11 18:17
schestowitz> account boycottn can read the logs without first becoming root.Jul 11 18:17
schestowitz> I also notice that root is running whois which is using up to 100% ofJul 11 18:20
schestowitz> the CPU at times.  This indicates something wrong,Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz> Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  top - 08:28:59 up 131 days,  9:08,  4 users,  load average: 3.33, 3.30Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  Tasks: 106 total,   5 running, 101 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombieJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  Cpu(s): 34.2%us, 49.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 13.5%id,  0.1%wa,  0.0%hi,  1.7%si,Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  Mem:   4194304k total,  2810504k used,  1383800k free,   319244k buffeJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  Swap:  8388472k total,      108k used,  8388364k free,  1407044k cacheJul 11 18:20
schestowitz> Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz>    PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S PU %MEM    TIME+  COMMANDJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  17085 root      25   0 67640 1092  804 R 83.2  0.0  19020:19 whoisJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>   1398 mysql     15   0  574m 154m 4640 S 50.5  3.8  53235:24 mysqldJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>    335 apache    16   0  268m  34m 4308 S 13.3  0.8   0:03.64 httpdJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  32762 apache    16   0  265m  30m 3924 S 12.1  0.8   0:05.71 httpdJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>    328 apache    16   0  272m  38m 4316 S 10.0  0.9   0:06.31 httpdJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>    344 apache    16   0  266m  31m 3372 R  1.6  0.8   0:05.40 httpdJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>    332 apache    16   0  265m  30m 3376 S  0.8  0.7   0:05.11 httpdJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  32420 apache    15   0  266m  32m 4348 S  0.2  0.8   0:14.49 httpdJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>      1 root      15   0 10368  644  548 S  0.0  0.0   0:06.20 initJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>      2 root      RT  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:29.54 migrationJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>      3 root      34  19     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:02.85 ksoftirqdJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>      4 root      RT  -5     0  ...Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz> Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz> Do any of the scripts or bots use whois?  I'd recommend killing thatJul 11 18:20
schestowitz> process, it's been running for ages:Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz> Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  # ps 17085Jul 11 18:20
schestowitz>    PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMANDJul 11 18:20
schestowitz>  17085 ?        R    19023:12 /usr/bin/whois 72.20.52.212Jul 11 18:20
schestowitzI run top on my third monitor all the time and I noticed this process. This might have something to do with logs, but I too was baffled by the heavy load.Jul 11 18:20
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schestowitz> Shall we kill it and see what complains?  A month is an awful longJul 11 20:00
schestowitz> time to be trying to look up an IP address.Jul 11 20:01
schestowitzSure, kill it and see what manifested it to begin with.Jul 11 20:01
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schestowitzI found a mention of it in two logs:Jul 11 22:08
schestowitz"Jul 11 22:08
schestowitz> # grep -r 72.20.52.212 ./*Jul 11 22:08
schestowitz> ./phirce/nohup.out::schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitzJul 11 22:09
schestowitz> PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>  17085 ?        R    19023:12 /usr/bin/whoisJul 11 22:09
schestowitz> 72.20.52.212Jul 11 22:09
schestowitz> ./phirce/logs/raw.log::schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitzJul 11 22:09
schestowitz> PRIVMSG #boycottnovell :>  17085 ?        R    19023:12 /usr/bin/whoisJul 11 22:09
schestowitz> 72.20.52.212Jul 11 22:09
schestowitz> Jul 11 22:09
schestowitz> The bot is a lot over my head, but the whois seems to have come fromJul 11 22:09
schestowitz> there.  No clue as to why just that one got stuck.Jul 11 22:09
schestowitzInteresting. It might be a bug in the bot. I'll keep an eye on the log to see if whois respawns.Jul 11 22:09
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