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FurnaceBoy'In a recently filed motion, three former National Security Agency analysts confirm that the NSA has, or is in the process of obtaining, the capability to seize and store most electronic communications passing through its U.S. intercept centers, such as the "secret room" at the AT&T facility in San Francisco first disclosed by retired AT&T technician Mark Klein in early 2006. These Jul 04 01:09
FurnaceBoysecurity experts have come forward to give evidence in the EFF's lawsuit against the government's illegal mass surveillance program.Jul 04 01:09
FurnaceBoyhttps://www.eff.org/press/releases/three-nsa-whistleblowers-back-effs-lawsuit-over-governments-massive-spying-programJul 04 01:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Three NSA Whistleblowers Back EFF's Lawsuit Over Government's Massive Spying Program | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 24.02 KBJul 04 01:09
schestowitzseen it, thanksJul 04 01:19
schestowitzbrave peopleJul 04 01:19
schestowitzwill get the Assange treatmentJul 04 01:19
schestowitzexcept the fameJul 04 01:19
schestowitzBinney and others are rarely heard ofJul 04 01:19
schestowitzexcept maybe Democracy NowJul 04 01:19
schestowitzInfo LockdownJul 04 01:19
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XFaCEFurnaceBoy: Anderson Cooper being gay was for some reason top newsJul 04 04:33
XFaCEBy all means, it's great that he doesn't have to hide anymore, but top news? Really?Jul 04 04:34
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: yeah i caught itJul 04 04:40
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: yeah.. um.Jul 04 04:40
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: weird times.Jul 04 04:40
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: i read a few reactions. this was one i liked: http://www.quora.com/Anderson-Cooper/Why-does-anyone-care-what-Anderson-Coopers-sexual-orientation-is/answer/Erica-FriedmanJul 04 04:47
TechrightsSocialTitle: Erica Friedman's answer to Anderson Cooper: Why does anyone care what Anderson Cooper's sexual orientation is? - Quora .::. Size~: 53.99 KBJul 04 04:47
XFaCEinterestingJul 04 04:52
XFaCEI don't have a problem with him coming outJul 04 04:53
FurnaceBoyyeah, a kind of insider view that rang true.Jul 04 04:53
XFaCEIt's the excessive media attention that bothers meJul 04 04:53
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: oh, right, the weird focus? well that's just  a reflection of mainstream screwy prioritiesJul 04 04:53
FurnaceBoyand the endless American prudery and homophobiaJul 04 04:54
FurnaceBoyif it happened in canada everybody would be like, yeah whatever dude.Jul 04 04:54
XFaCEand the corporate media's desire for entertainment over actually newsJul 04 04:54
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: It was front page material for MetroJul 04 04:54
FurnaceBoyRick Mercer is gay; he did a piece on Cooper and didn't even bothr mentioning he was gay himself because he assumed everybodyknewJul 04 04:54
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: of course, the corporate media won't touch anything important...Jul 04 04:54
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: that wouldn't be good for its owners :DJul 04 04:55
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: metro is worthlessJul 04 04:55
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: if you trace back the ownership links of Metro, you'll find a plutocratJul 04 04:55
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: in Australia, murdoch controls all the free transit papersJul 04 04:56
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: or the major onesJul 04 04:56
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: it's absolutely outrageousJul 04 04:56
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: he uses public space to distribute them!Jul 04 04:56
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: in Canada, it will be the sameJul 04 04:56
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: metro is slightly less bad than 24hrsJul 04 04:56
XFaCEala Sun-liteJul 04 04:56
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: I mean Metro, not the free magazines like NOW and Grid, which are actually good.Jul 04 04:56
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: no, Metro is corruptJul 04 04:57
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: trace the ownershipJul 04 04:57
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: you'll find i'm rightJul 04 04:57
FurnaceBoyyes, 24hrs is another case in pointJul 04 04:57
FurnaceBoythere is no independent voice in that space, they woudl never allow it.Jul 04 04:57
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: That one's easu to spotJul 04 04:57
FurnaceBoyit's part of the csam.Jul 04 04:57
FurnaceBoyyes, but it;s the hard to spot ones that are more dangerous.Jul 04 04:57
FurnaceBoythey try to camouflage.Jul 04 04:58
XFaCEThe part where they mention QuebecorJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoyit's the big trick.Jul 04 04:58
XFaCEding ding dingJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: sure, but there's a ding ding ding moment in every Metro.Jul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoyif you look for itJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoyCooper obsession is one.Jul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoyi've seen plenty of such moments in itJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoyit's what it's FORJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoyto disseminate propaganda while appearing plausibleJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoylike all MSMJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoycaptive audicenceJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoy-cJul 04 04:58
FurnaceBoythat's what makes me madJul 04 04:59
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: toronto star?Jul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoyof coursJul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoywell Jul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoystar?Jul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoywhy?Jul 04 04:59
XFaCEyeahJul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoyit's more subtleJul 04 04:59
XFaCEany sun is a dead end, for the most partJul 04 04:59
XFaCEthat red circle serves as a red alertJul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoySun is completely dead.Jul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoyStar -- depends.Jul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoythere are good writers for the Star.Jul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoySiddiquiJul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoymainly.Jul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoyBUTJul 04 04:59
FurnaceBoythere are good writers for theNYT; they are allowed, as camouflage. Krugman is the ultimate example.Jul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoythey're allowed so that they can point and say "look! diverse views"/Jul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoyand people are fooled, every time.Jul 04 05:00
XFaCEG&M seems tha way tooJul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoyyes.Jul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoyG&M is pretty stinky.Jul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoygoJul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoygoJul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoygodJul 04 05:00
XFaCEok thenJul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoyi've seen some really scary stuff in G&MJul 04 05:00
XFaCEwhat publication are left?Jul 04 05:00
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: few! :)Jul 04 05:01
FurnaceBoyand that's how they like it.Jul 04 05:01
FurnaceBoythe Star is very critical of Harper.Jul 04 05:01
FurnaceBoythey aren't going head on yet, they are presumably waiting for a stronger hand. but there is a constant campaign, sometmes very subtle.Jul 04 05:01
FurnaceBoywell, not subtle, but subtle enough that Cons won't get it.Jul 04 05:02
FurnaceBoythey don't want to draw too much fire at this pointJul 04 05:02
FurnaceBoyremember, the Star blew the G20 wide openJul 04 05:02
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: which pubs do you recommend again?Jul 04 05:02
FurnaceBoynobody else didJul 04 05:02
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: yeah, I recallJul 04 05:02
FurnaceBoythat's big, because G20 is emblematic of Harper's regimeJul 04 05:02
FurnaceBoyhis pet projectJul 04 05:03
FurnaceBoyan experiment in fascismJul 04 05:03
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: i dunno...Jul 04 05:03
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: probably web sitesJul 04 05:03
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: rabble.ca and suchJul 04 05:03
XFaCEMichaelgeist.ca :)Jul 04 05:03
FurnaceBoyXFaCE: but i don't read them - no timeJul 04 05:03
FurnaceBoyi gotta go to bed, amigo.Jul 04 05:04
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: I watch The Young Turks for America news; paints a good picture of how fucked they areJul 04 05:04
FurnaceBoyheheJul 04 05:04
XFaCEthough they do get lost in the sensationalism at timesJul 04 05:04
XFaCEFurnaceBoy: gnJul 04 05:04
FurnaceBoyciaoJul 04 05:05
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jgbarah/statuses/220319289826217984Jul 04 06:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Twitter / jgbarah: The FFmpeg/Libav situation .::. Size~: 77.61 KBJul 04 06:41
schestowitz"The FFmpeg/Libav situation http://ur1.ca/9pwac  What happens after a fork ‪#freesoftware‬"Jul 04 06:41
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MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/vyz85Jul 04 06:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: The parallel that turned me away from Christianity via reddit.com .::. Size~: 1.67 KBJul 04 06:53
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schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/w0q8a/why_google_and_ubuntu_dont_say_linux_zdnet/Jul 04 08:03
schestowitz"Jul 04 08:03
TechrightsSocialTitle: Why Google and Ubuntu don't say “Linux” | ZDNet : Ubuntu .::. Size~: 45.13 KBJul 04 08:03
schestowitzI think there's a note of merit there. It's possible that linux represents a shift that commoditized the OS into near anonymity. I think that's a good thing. The OS really shouldn't be the center stage, it should be the floor, tent polls, tension wires, and benches in the stands. Really, not much more.Jul 04 08:03
schestowitzOr rather imagine this: ads for windows or osx: "buy windows! buy osx!" "what for?" is the first question that comes to mind. For me personally, the issue closest to the OS is the software ecosystem it fosters. Does that ecosystem encourage and support a marketplace of ideas easily capitalized on? Or do new ideas some with a bucketload of strings attached, marginalizing them into near-dysfunctionality? Admittedly for most, Jul 04 08:03
schestowitzthose questions don't show up on the radar. They are back to not caring much about OS branding.Jul 04 08:03
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schestowitzLinux runs on so many parts of IT infrastructure it's hard to peg it as a discrete target good or bad. Really, just saying "linux" without the distro or distro family doesn't mean much. For example, Cisco's flagship 10G ethernet switch line of Nexus switches runs a distro descended from a distro called "hard hat" linux. What's that? Just linux. What's a distribution? Just a software environment that lends itself to getting Jul 04 08:03
schestowitzcertain kinds of things done. Windows, for example, is great for getting msoffice things done. OSX is great for getting Apple things done. Linux - well really it's so open there are few if any limits.Jul 04 08:03
schestowitzThe lack of limits are what blur the boundaries and make the definition of "what is linux" in indefinite answer at best. It's open enough that it's what you need it to be.Jul 04 08:03
schestowitz"Jul 04 08:03
MinceRand GNU is forgotten as usualJul 04 08:06
schestowitzWhat a waste of money http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57464779-92/dell-ponies-up-$2.4b-to-buy-quest-software/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=titleJul 04 08:09
TechrightsSocialTitle: Dell ponies up $2.4B to buy Quest Software | Business Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 85.77 KBJul 04 08:09
schestowitzMinceR: by default :-)Jul 04 08:09
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768274Jul 04 10:49
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Remember Lidice On 2 July 1942, most of the children of Lidice, a small village in what was then Czechoslovakia, were handed over to the Łódź Gestapo office. Those 82 children were then transported to the extermination camp at Chełmno 70 kilometers away. There they were gassed to death. This remarkable sculpture by by Marie Uchytilová commemorates them. Yet what had they (and their familJul 04 10:49
TechrightsSocial  Photo by ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_d0c1e8758f79e7c24368.jpgJul 04 10:49
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schestowitz"Jul 04 10:49
schestowitzLet me put correct version of your text here:Jul 04 10:49
schestowitz"[...] a small village in what was then Czechoslovakia, were handed over to the nazi Gestapo office created by germans in Łódź.".Jul 04 10:49
schestowitz"Those 82 children were then transported to the nazi extermination camp created by germans at Chełmno 70 kilometers away. There they were gassed to death."Jul 04 10:49
schestowitzPlease, be careful with such descriptions. Poles were NOT responsible for this horror. They were victims as well. Your version makes some people believe that all of this was arranged by polish people, which is definitely NOT true. Nazis were to be blamed for a...Jul 04 10:49
schestowitz"Jul 04 10:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768265Jul 04 10:50
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: required labeling ![required labeling](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6hxhsm6NR1qi7byco1_500.jpg) #bible #monotheism #religion #ingredients #labelingJul 04 10:50
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schestowitz"Can we give the endless religion bashing a rest already?"Jul 04 10:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768265Jul 04 12:38
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: required labeling ![required labeling](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6hxhsm6NR1qi7byco1_500.jpg) #bible #monotheism #religion #ingredients #labelingJul 04 12:39
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schestowitz"Could someone in the know please tell me about the 10 deaths by the devil and the unicorns, please. :)"Jul 04 12:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1767614Jul 04 13:12
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: decline of empire ![decline of empire](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6k5ayhcGc1r0pw1wo1_500.jpg) #trains #china #warJul 04 13:12
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schestowitz"If the USA win a war against China, they can steal^W get trains as reparation payment. :->"Jul 04 13:13
schestowitzFurnaceBoy: ^Jul 04 13:13
MinceRif they surviveJul 04 13:18
schestowitz:-)Jul 04 13:18
MinceRor rather, if both parties surviveJul 04 13:18
schestowitzThey have a massive armyJul 04 13:18
schestowitzand many arms they can sellJul 04 13:18
schestowitzNot sure who toJul 04 13:18
schestowitzNo nation really needs this many planes, bombs, inc. nuclear warheadsJul 04 13:18
schestowitzAnd...Jul 04 13:18
MinceRthey might devastate the biosphere and eliminate most lifeforms, including humansJul 04 13:18
schestowitzWithout the imperialism in power, who will fight who?Jul 04 13:18
schestowitzChina vs Russia? No...Jul 04 13:19
schestowitzAussie vs. India?Jul 04 13:19
schestowitzHeheJul 04 13:19
schestowitzWorld peace ain't farJul 04 13:19
schestowitzChina's economy will leapfrog the US' in 2015 or 2016Jul 04 13:19
schestowitz!google youtube world bank china 2015Jul 04 13:19
TechrightsSocial[1] - China to Double Military Budget by 2015 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlLFPEkalfiAJul 04 13:19
TechrightsSocial[2] - CHINA 2030 WORLD BANK - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D8pDfU7JI8mQJul 04 13:19
TechrightsSocial[3] - World Bank forecast a slowdown in China's economy in ... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dt271UDD_A4MJul 04 13:19
TechrightsSocial[4] - Clean Energy Future – China's action on climate change | http://www.cleanenergyfuture.gov.au/chinas-action-on-climate-change/Jul 04 13:19
schestowitz!google youtube world bank china us 2016Jul 04 13:20
TechrightsSocial[1] - IMF: China to Surpass US in 2016 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DBLOYMZIBePAJul 04 13:20
TechrightsSocial[2] - World Bank forecast a slowdown in China's economy in ... - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dt271UDD_A4MJul 04 13:20
TechrightsSocial[3] - China Takes Over in 2016 - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxC6vphmeiQcJul 04 13:20
TechrightsSocial[4] - Oppenheimer Report: China No. 1 in 2016? - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D9FBGk1KtVTAJul 04 13:20
schestowitzsee [1]Jul 04 13:20
MinceRhttp://narf-archive.com/pix/2a7b107e192aef682d180a330ea3691fbda3a82a.jpgJul 04 13:59
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schestowitzheheJul 04 14:00
schestowitzyeah, I've seen anger over this termJul 04 14:00
schestowitzhijacking the LHC to promote religionJul 04 14:00
schestowitzLike "intelligent design"Jul 04 14:00
schestowitzor Microsoft as "FOSS"Jul 04 14:00
schestowitzor "choice"Jul 04 14:00
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768284Jul 04 14:38
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nautilus To Get Major Makeover In Gnome 3.6 http://www.muktware.com/3821/nautilus-get-major-make-over-gnome-36 #gnome #gnu #linuxJul 04 14:38
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schestowitz"I use #SpaceFM and really enjoy it. It has a lot of nice UI configuration options."Jul 04 14:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768265Jul 04 14:43
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: required labeling ![required labeling](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6hxhsm6NR1qi7byco1_500.jpg) #bible #monotheism #religion #ingredients #labelingJul 04 14:43
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schestowitz"Jul 04 14:43
schestowitz> Can we give the endless religion bashing a rest already?Jul 04 14:43
schestowitzYeah PLEASE, it's just polemic and goes on my nerves.Jul 04 14:43
schestowitz"Jul 04 14:43
MinceRthe moment the endless religion pushing and religion-based policies and laws end, it can be given a restJul 04 14:44
MinceRwhen freedom and reason are no longer oppressed by religionJul 04 14:44
schestowitz:-)Jul 04 14:45
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schestowitzhttp://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Secular-Philosophies/The-Problem-With-Religious-Moderates.aspxJul 04 15:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Problem with Religious Moderates by Sam Harris - Beliefnet.com .::. Size~: 49.66 KBJul 04 15:54
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QlaF8VdT2M very good pointJul 04 15:54
TechrightsSocialTitle: Sam Harris on Religious Moderates       - YouTube .::. Size~: 146.57 KBJul 04 15:54
schestowitzLOL https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1769565Jul 04 18:00
TechrightsSocial@eternaltyro@joindiaspora.com reshared: gobsmacked ![gobsmacked](http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1n4n6oHd41rqms3ao1_500.gif) #flying #dildo #impactJul 04 18:00
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schestowitz> (Reuters) - After a month in which his re-election campaign picked upJul 04 19:19
schestowitz> momentum, hard economic realities are about to hit President Barack Obama asJul 04 19:19
schestowitz> he takes to the road on a campaign bus trip through the Rust Belt.Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> Poor manufacturing data earlier this week followed by a likely weak joblessJul 04 19:19
schestowitz> report on Friday are reminding Obama that he has a lot of work to do toJul 04 19:19
schestowitz> convince voters he is bringing the economy back to full health.Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> _____________________________________________________________Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> Unlike the days back when he as a candidate Obama fails to excite or unite.Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> We are in a funk. Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> Yet, I am not finding much complaint in the media or even from friends ofJul 04 19:19
schestowitz> the poor choices we are being offered in the presidential election. Jul 04 19:19
schestowitz> My father-in-law used to call that choice " Bak or Medra...which means KakaJul 04 19:19
schestowitz> or Kaka in 2 different languages.Jul 04 19:19
schestowitzThe economy has fallen because of expansionism in this empire, and the hoard by the corporation, which are doing very well by the way (they looted the nation for many decades, now they can dodge overseas).Jul 04 19:19
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1769206Jul 04 19:20
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **In Italia i cerchi di grano con il logo di Ubuntu... gli alieni usano Linux???** • http://goo.gl/TG2Kt <br> [ ![Image](http://lh5.ggpht.com/-Vo1eGe6BWDw/T_Q7jsqOCLI/AAAAAAAAapo/imX2Yjm-xVA/s500/2012-07-02-073-1024x574.jpg) ](http://goo.gl/TG2Kt) <br>#linux #ubuntu  <br><sub> - [via Diaspora* Publisher](http://goo.gl/tmeFB) -</sub>Jul 04 19:20
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schestowitz"Proof that GNU+Linux is more advanced. ET uses it!"Jul 04 19:20
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MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvxJs_4m0ZEJul 04 21:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: A Colloidal Display: membrane screen that combines  transparency, BRDF and 3D volume       - YouTube .::. Size~: 139.07 KBJul 04 21:27
MinceR[AJul 04 21:28
MinceRor even  http://i.imgur.com/ZgZhO.pngJul 04 21:28
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