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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1717972Jun 17 10:25
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: brdcst.it was rendered quite dysfunctional a few months ago when a software update had been applied.Jun 17 10:25
schestowitz"dlvr.it does pretty much the same thing"Jun 17 10:25
schestowitz"Jun 17 11:03
schestowitzNot like Open Source where any Tom, Dick or Harry can put in any code they like and no-one ever checks it to see if there's anything nasty buried in there. Everyone knows that Linux is insecure because of this. The only way to ensure security of an operating system is to keep the source code securely protected from prying eyes, just like Microsoft do (well, most of the time anyway). It's fortunate that less than 1% of the Jun 17 11:03
schestowitzpopulation even knows about Linux - otherwise, if more people were using it, national security would be a complete myth!Jun 17 11:03
schestowitzObviously this "data mining" you mention is only possible on Linux, because Windows source code is kept safe. I think it's scandalous to suggest that a law-abiding, caring, customer-focused company like Skype (Microsoft) would even dream of abusing its hard-won, loyal customer base.Jun 17 11:03
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schestowitzFrom a Lins** trollJun 17 11:03
schestowitzMore of the same nonsense..Jun 17 11:04
schestowitzNot like Open Source where any Tom, Dick or Harry can put in any code they like and no-one ever checks it to see if there's anything nasty buried in there. Everyone knows that Linux is insecure because of this. The only way to ensure security of an operating system is to keep the source code securely protected from prying eyes, just like Microsoft do (well, most of the time anyway). It's fortunate that less than 1% of the Jun 17 11:04
schestowitzpopulation even knows about Linux - otherwise, if more people were using it, national security would be a complete myth!Jun 17 11:04
schestowitzObviously this "data mining" you mention is only possible on Linux, because Windows source code is kept safe. I think it's scandalous to suggest that a law-abiding, caring, customer-focused company like Skype (Microsoft) would even dream of abusing its hard-won, loyal customer base.Jun 17 11:04
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schestowitzhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/software-discrimination-never-answer?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LinuxJournal-BreakingNews+%28Linux+Journal+-+Breaking+News%29Jun 17 11:05
TechrightsSocialTitle: Software Discrimination Is Never The Answer | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 86.92 KBJun 17 11:05
schestowitzLet's apologise for Microsoft...Jun 17 11:05
schestowitzWhich never discriminates, right?Jun 17 11:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1720493Jun 17 12:48
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Canonical takes Linux apps, calls them "Ubuntu apps". Taking credit works for #ubuntu http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/061412-canonical-ubuntu-showdown-260212.htmlJun 17 12:48
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Canonical announces Ubuntu Apps Showdown .::. Size~: 123.11 KBJun 17 12:48
schestowitz"Umm what? Should Windows apps be called NT applications and Mac OSX apps be called XNU apps? :D"Jun 17 12:48
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qu1j0t3  law-abiding, caring, customer-focused company like Jun 17 14:52
qu1j0t3  Skype (Microsoft) would even dream of abusing its  Jun 17 14:52
qu1j0t3  hard-won, loyal customer base.                     Jun 17 14:52
qu1j0t3this can only be a jokeJun 17 14:52
schestowitzqu1j0t3: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1720307Jun 17 14:53
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: After #PATRIOTACT and move to Internet it "gives them [NSA] licence to take all the commercially-available data about us" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzEb86O3HYJun 17 14:53
TechrightsSocial-> Title: The NSA Is Lying - They are spying on you - Democracy Now April 20, 2012       - YouTube .::. Size~: 105.83 KBJun 17 14:53
schestowitz"Jun 17 14:53
schestowitzCan laugh and smile about 12 FBI agents rushing into his house and holding him at gun point while he was in the shower too ( do you have any concealed weapons there sir ) ..... ( must be confident to laugh about it )Jun 17 14:53
schestowitzWould love to know what he knows - but what dangerous situation ..... pointing a loaded weapon at someone - with what sort of need for it ?Jun 17 14:53
schestowitzDoes this man have prior convictions - maybe a speeding ticket or something of significance - always lock the bathroom door ....... although they may then need to kick it in.Jun 17 14:53
schestowitzReally is like in the movies ...... did they get the bad ...Jun 17 14:53
schestowitz"Jun 17 14:53
schestowitzSee my tweets from this morning :-)Jun 17 14:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1720460Jun 17 14:54
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The word "subversive" ought to be assigned to companies that subvert the law, subvert politics, kill people (directly or indirectly)Jun 17 14:54
schestowitz"The word subversive is assigned to those who subvert the law, whether or not they are large corps or individuals. However you may need to persuade your local media organisations to use it correctly."Jun 17 14:54
qu1j0t3"Really is like in the movies"Jun 17 15:01
qu1j0t3yes, the movies are there to normalise that crap.Jun 17 15:01
schestowitzit's easy to avoid TV when it's not around :-)Jun 17 15:08
schestowitzqu1j0t3: yeahJun 17 15:08
schestowitzI'd rather have 3 screens with different activities on eachJun 17 15:09
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzKZb3qHyXk&feature=digest_monJun 17 15:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Center of all Things       - YouTube .::. Size~: 169.28 KBJun 17 15:32
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94685008 http://identi.ca/notice/94684837Jun 17 15:35
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Sunday, 17-Jun-12 14:31:04 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you can watch TV on your computer ;-)Jun 17 15:35
TechrightsSocial@n0den1te's status on Sunday, 17-Jun-12 14:21:59 UTC - Identi.ca: Great, I have no tv at home either. I got rid of it, uhm... 7 years ago. Reduced clutter. :)Jun 17 15:35
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94685027Jun 17 15:36
TechrightsSocial@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Sunday, 17-Jun-12 14:32:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I usually have my computer on when I watch TV. More often the TV is on when I'm on the computer.Jun 17 15:36
qu1j0t3Reduced mental clutter, too.Jun 17 15:38
qu1j0t3it's kind of hilarious that the TV tells you in effect that TV is normal and not a means of mental colonisation, no sir, that's the stuff of science fiction, worry not, little peopleJun 17 15:39
schestowitzqu1j0t3: I love how Mr. Obama mourns the loss of Steve Jobs ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/10/05/statement-president-passing-steve-jobs ) but not the loss of jobs or girls his drones assassinateJun 17 15:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: Statement by the President on the Passing of Steve Jobs | The White House .::. Size~: 46.17 KBJun 17 15:48
schestowitzCrony capitalism dinner http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/61339-thumb/dinner.png who runs the country? :-) http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/15/what-steve-jobs-told-barak-obamas-campaign-manager/Jun 17 15:48
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJun 17 15:48
TechrightsSocialTitle: What Steve Jobs told Barack Obama's campaign manager -  Apple 2.0 -  Fortune Tech .::. Size~: 47.02 KBJun 17 15:48
qu1j0t3schestowitz: yes it's disgusting. viscerally disgusting.Jun 17 15:49
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there will be accountabilityJun 17 15:49
qu1j0t3schestowitz: but they have decided to leave the reckoning outside their lawJun 17 15:50
schestowitzThey ARE the lawJun 17 15:51
schestowitzsee my tweets from this morning.. Jun 17 15:52
schestowitze.g.Jun 17 15:52
qu1j0t3they are their law.Jun 17 15:52
schestowitz[09:18] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Jacob Appelbaum calls for political action with Anonymous! http://ur1.ca/9inhn #anonymityJun 17 15:52
TechrightsSocialTitle: transmediale 2k12: Jacob Appelbaum calls for political action with Anonymous!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 141.7 KBJun 17 15:52
schestowitz[09:50] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACTIVISM for software freedom seems to have weakened somewhat. Truth be said, the FSF saw its power declining, key staf http://ur1.ca/9inmbJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:40] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] US government recruits people to do #cybercrime http://ur1.ca/9igzv #stuxnet #terrorism #pentagonJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: schestowitz.com  » Blog Archive   » Focus of My Activism .::. Size~: 35.62 KBJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: New Grad Looking For a Job? Pentagon Contractors Post Openings For Black-Hat Hackers - Forbes .::. Size~: 77.02 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:40] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: New Grad Looking For a Job? Pentagon Contractors Post Openings For Black-Hat Hackers - Forbes .::. Size~: 76.99 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:43] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] I love the irony where #stateterrorism is rebranded a "fight against terrorism". Like carpet-bombing being labeled spreading bom^H^Hcracy™Jun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:46] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Microsoft a manifestation of racist and violent FBI inside your computer, using your CPU/Ethernet against you? http://ur1.ca/9ic0cJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:46] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #UK wants to be more like #China when it comes to human rights http://ur1.ca/9inte afraid of their own peopleJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: Could US cyberspies have moles inside Microsoft? | Security | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 57.44 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:46] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Could US cyberspies have moles inside Microsoft? | Security | News | PC Pro .::. Size~: 57.44 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:46] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Online Activities To Be Recorded By UK ISPs - Slashdot .::. Size~: 309.66 KBJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: Online Activities To Be Recorded By UK ISPs - Slashdot .::. Size~: 309.58 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:48] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux users, the #NSA wants to harvest your phonecalls and data-mine them. Please download the new trojan: http://ur1.ca/9i4cfJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: Skype - Skype for Linux blog - Skype 4.0 for Linux .::. Size~: 169.54 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:48] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Skype - Skype for Linux blog - Skype 4.0 for Linux .::. Size~: 169.54 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:50] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] The #NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) http://ur1.ca/8q16t the capacity is staggeringJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 62.41 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:50] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: The NSA Is Building the Country's Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 62.34 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:53] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] After #PATRIOTACT & move to Internet it "gives them [NSA] licence to take all the commercially-available data about us" http://goo.gl/wa1U0Jun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: The NSA Is Lying - They are spying on you - Democracy Now April 20, 2012       - YouTube .::. Size~: 106.71 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:53] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: The NSA Is Lying - They are spying on you - Democracy Now April 20, 2012       - YouTube .::. Size~: 106.11 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitzJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:56] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Would You Use Ubuntu TV? Canonical Wants to Know  http://ur1.ca/9inuj #ubuntu #linuxJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[10:56] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: How Would You Use Ubuntu TV?  Canonical Wants to Know | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 72.32 KBJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: How Would You Use Ubuntu TV?  Canonical Wants to Know | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 72.32 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:00] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former #NSA worker #Binney Held At Gunpoint In Shower by #FBI http://ur1.ca/9inv9 Makes me think of David Kelly http://ur1.ca/4zpflJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: Binney Held At Gunpoint In Shower by FBI       - YouTube .::. Size~: 107.53 KBJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: David Kelly (weapons expert) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 150.2 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:00] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: Binney Held At Gunpoint In Shower by FBI       - YouTube .::. Size~: 106.65 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:00] <TechrightsBot-tr> Title: David Kelly (weapons expert) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 150.2 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:01] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] According to #NSA Insider #Binney the NSA Has 20 TRILLION Digital Transactions From American Citizens. Wow! And increasing rapidly.Jun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:18] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Privacy protects us from abuses by those in power, even if we're doing nothing wrong at the time of surveillance.” ~Bruce SchneierJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:21] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] "President Roosevelt asked the FBI to put in its files the names of citizens ... opposing his "national defense" policy" http://ur1.ca/3zeb5Jun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: COINTELPRO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 183.9 KBJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:21] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Techrights was cited by many #anonymous activists on Friday for explaining how #Yahoo & #Microsoft sell profiling for political orientationJun 17 15:53
schestowitz[11:31] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] A Classin (The Onion): CIA's 'Facebook' Program Dramatically Cut Agency's Costs http://ur1.ca/3malmJun 17 15:53
TechrightsSocialTitle: CIA's 'Facebook' Program Dramatically Cut Agency's Costs | Onion News Network .::. Size~: 43.33 KBJun 17 15:53
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schestowitzCreating mirrors of the Techrights Web site is a good reason to share the content. What might a copy of the DB be needed for?Jun 17 16:04
schestowitzI think we might get a .eu mirror..Jun 17 16:04
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schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/v6cig/a_review_of_mate_is_it_a_true_gnome_2_replica/Jun 17 18:19
TechrightsSocialTitle: A Review Of MATE – Is It A True Gnome 2 Replica? [Linux] : gnome .::. Size~: 42.38 KBJun 17 18:19
schestowitz"I'm no lawyer, but I don't think you can dynamically link against GPL'd code without the GPL linking exception. Even if you statically link against LGPL'd code, you have to provide object files for the users, so they can recompile your software against a modified version of the library."Jun 17 18:19
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1720811Jun 17 22:23
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Canonical business plan: 1) branch/fork Debian; 2) rebrand http://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Presents-Ubuntu-App-Showdown-Contest-275926.shtml 3) drum up #Ubuntu Server 3) Bash RHT 5) Profit!Jun 17 22:23
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Canonical Presents Ubuntu App Showdown Contest - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.61 KBJun 17 22:23
schestowitz"Profit? Really?"Jun 17 22:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1720464Jun 17 23:15
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ice Cream Sandwich named best platform experience by Parsons http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/13/ice-cream-sandwich-google-awarded-user-enterface/ finding it extremely easy to learn, #KDE is better thoughJun 17 23:15
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Ice Cream Sandwich -- Google awarded best platform from Parsons .::. Size~: 58.5 KBJun 17 23:15
schestowitz"Does anyone have a link to the original Parsons page?"Jun 17 23:15
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