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| MinceR | ooh, outlook | Jul 18 06:30 |
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| MinceR | the email client that fails at almost every trivial thing others get right | Jul 18 06:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's essential | Jul 18 06:30 |
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| schestowitz | RMS is picky. | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > I note that the article several times says "Linux" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > but that refers to the GNU/Linux system. Could you please fix that? | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | The occurrences of "Linux" are as follows: | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "why is GNU/Linux better than Windows" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "particular version of GNU/Linux" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "Linux but doesn't contain GNU" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "doing that yet with GNU/Linux" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "spread of GNU/Linux because" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "presence of the kernel Linux in a system doesn't" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "as firmware blobs in Linux" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "make Linux libre (which doesn't have the blobs)" | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Where "Linux" is mentioned on its own it refers only to the kernel, I think. Are there any exceptions? | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > Also, it does not distinguish between Secure Boot (under the user's | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > control) and Restricted Boot (not under the user's control). | Jul 18 08:36 |
| schestowitz | I have put secure in scare quotes. I will, instead, change the phrasing in the body and the title. It now says Restricted Boot. | Jul 18 08:36 |
| MinceR | or he's superficial :> | Jul 18 09:00 |
| MinceR | s/is/was/ | Jul 18 09:00 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icxz3LuvHVM&feature=related | Jul 18 09:30 |
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| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2675 | Jul 18 13:26 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Jul 18 16:15 | |
| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Jul 18 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > I'm filing a bug report with KDE about Konversation. If you have the | Jul 18 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > time, could you send me an excerpt of today's IRC logs where my client | Jul 18 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > breaks the connection and then re-connects a minute or two later? I | Jul 18 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > need to see what it looks like from the outside. | Jul 18 16:56 |
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| *Topic for #boycottnovell-social set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Fri May 7 00:20:14 2010 | Jul 18 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | RMS: | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > Where "Linux" is mentioned on its own it refers only to the kernel, I | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > think. | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > It's http://techrights.org/2012/07/15/not-complicit-with-microsoft/. | Jul 18 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | > Here are the problem instances I see in that page: | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > Cathy Malmrose, CEO of the Linux PC vendor ZaReason | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > <p>“Malmrose told me With UEFI’s Secure Boot around | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > the corner, we are hoping to raise awareness that Linux | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > distributors... | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > the keystroke(s) needed to get Linux to run on | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > machines post-2012 will be simple at first, becoming increasingly | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > complex at a non-shocking rate. | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > Malmrose fears that this will desktop Linux too difficult | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > to new users, [and this will cause] slow death by suffocation for | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > Linux.</p> <p>“So what can Linux users do instead? | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > Malmrose thinks we can avoid a “Greek Tragedy by | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > recognizing that Linux needs hardware vendors | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > <p>"She's right. We need to support Linux-friendly hardware vendors. | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > Some of these are quotations, but you could emend them by adding | Jul 18 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > "[GNU/]" where appropriate. Some are not quotations -- they come from | Jul 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > you. | Jul 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I must have been negligent. I will fix that. | Jul 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | I am *usually* getting those right. The quotes are from SJVN (Steven), who has his own opinionated opinion on the name of systems that include GNU and Linux. These days, Android and Ubuntu omit the "Linux" and Steven recently wrote about this naming phenomena. Do you want me to contact Steven regarding the subject? | Jul 18 18:46 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: thanks to your link: http://identi.ca/notice/95491437 | Jul 18 18:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-12 17:36:43 UTC - Identi.ca: Bill #Gates/ #Monsanto shouldn't be allowed colonization of the food supply—that would be more dangerous than #Windows' http://ur1.ca/9ss27 | Jul 18 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: been looking at the wedding bands today, and also checked for Masters degree programmes for the OH :-) | Jul 18 19:04 |
| schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: she takes interest in some of the stuff techrights covers, which is a winner | Jul 18 19:04 |
| MinceR | what's an "opinionated opinion" like? :> | Jul 18 19:11 |
| schestowitz | a famous game of words, I think | Jul 18 19:12 |
| schestowitz | heard this before... | Jul 18 19:12 |
| schestowitz | So RMS now wants me to also modify quoted text to attribute GNU... :-s | Jul 18 19:13 |
| formic_ | lol | Jul 18 19:49 |
| formic_ | send this to RMS: http://imgur.com/w52qM | Jul 18 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/microsoft/comments/wrlud/microsofts_cash_cow_is_suffering_techrights/ | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | Where Microsoft screwed the pooch is in not driving adoption of Office's more complex features. Office has had some really cool stuff since at least 2003, but MSFT hasn't followed through on driving the awareness of these features. They'd put in smart tags, ask a few evangelists to try and get people to adopt them, lose interest a year later, and now smart tags are gone. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Office Research pane - gone. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Information Bridge Framework (an early Office-integrated version of BCS) - gone. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | I suspect that in a few versions of Excel you'll see PowerPivot deprecated and cancelled. Why? Let's start with the number of people reading this post who have never heard of PowerPivot. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Once again I will trot out my deceased equine and say: People don't use features they don't know about, and if only there were some way to tell a lot of people about some new thing you want them to be interested in. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | In the meantime, Ballmer just follows Google along - doesn't really try to defend Office on the desktop and says "Uh yeah, cloud - we can do that" and walks over to fight Google on their turf. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | For ten years folks have rested on Office and Windows and let him fuck around with Microsoft's cash. Well now with Windows 8 he's kicking his staunchest defenders (developers! developers!) in the teeth, and he's drilling holes in the Office boat. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Is the Board going to fire him before he honestly kills Microsoft? I love the company and its products to death, and that may be where Ballmer is driving them. | Jul 18 22:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 18 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/95494353 http://identi.ca/notice/95493273 | Jul 18 22:06 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-12 20:07:56 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Linux devs declined that fight when they rejected GPLv3's provisions against Tivoization | Jul 18 22:06 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-12 19:08:01 UTC - Identi.ca: 2 Operating System-less options ;-) ♻ @schestowitz: full hardware with Linux is 5 times cheaper than #Vista8 without any hardware. | Jul 18 22:06 |
| schestowitz | I am now watching a lot of Singaporean TV in English; it's awesome. | Jul 18 23:27 |
| schestowitz | og f*** | Jul 18 23:35 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know we got slashdotted | Jul 18 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Now I know why the site was so slow | Jul 18 23:35 |
| schestowitz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/07/17/2326253/richard-stallman-speaks-about-uefi?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2FslashdotLinux+%28Slashdot%3A+Linux%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher | Jul 18 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/07/17/2326253/richard-stallman-speaks-about-uefi?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2FslashdotLinux+%28Slashdot%3A+Linux%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher | Jul 18 23:35 |
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