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| schestowitz | > Hi, | Jun 22 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > I saw your coverage of openSUSE meltdown. I am not an SUSE sympathizer | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > :-) As I stated before I believed that upon the demise of Novell, | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > openSUSE may be a more independent entity. I am very much confused here | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > that even projects like ownCloud use OBS. And from what I see there is | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > not any vendor lock in openSUSE, something we have started to notice in | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > Ubuntu. Everything Ubuntu is now doing is ONLY for Ubuntu and not for | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > the larger Linux community, whether it be there App Contest (which to me | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > looks like discouraging developers from writing their apps for other | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > distributions) or their UEFI (secure boot requirements) which according | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > to Matthew are worse than those of Microsoft. | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > I have been fighting for Free Software (I am from RMS camp and am not | Jun 22 00:27 |
| schestowitz | > loyal to any OS/Community, I am loyal to freedom and spirit of free | Jun 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | > software). | Jun 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | > The last thing I would want to do is help the enemy. So, here I would | Jun 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | > seek your advice on the coverage of openSUSE and Ubuntu in Muktware. | Jun 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Those whom I trust are primarily the FSF (RMS who started it all) and by extension Debian. Their motives are, by definition and principles, different. Canonical has a mask of BS on it and Jono spent a long time arguing with me today over UEFI. He reminds me of the "it came from above" remarks (referring to Mark). Those people put their paychecks first; it's their main source of income, unlike mine. SUSE is funded in part by | Jun 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft and it helps promote Microsoft (taxed) Linux. How can I want it to succeed at expense of other distros? It lets Microsoft control us like a Shepperd. UEFI does the same. | Jun 22 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Large corporations -- not people -- have massive budgets for PR, which is dedicated fully to subverting journalism and masquerading as such with press releases, fake hype, fake studies, hype by buzz marketing, placement, intimidation and bribery. It's one heck of an ugly business. I recommend the documentary "Century of the Self" from the BBC. It's long (about 3 hours) but well worth it (can be found in YouTube). | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > I got your point. Will refrain from 'endorsing/recommending' such | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > products. | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | We, as reporters, need not waste time promoting what's already artificially promoted by enemies of journalism, those who override it for filthy cash (money from company to promote the same company). | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > Will only do coverage as a journalist. I have kinda given up | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > on installing Linux on friend's PCs as I invested heavily in Ubuntu but | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > am often attacked by them if don't agree with what they say. | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | Many machines come with Linux preinstalled (like my Android tablet). | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > At the same | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > time the direction Ubuntu is heading is not why I started using Linux | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > 6-7 years ago. I have been extremely vocal about issues whether it be | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > mono or total boycott of openSUSE when they signed deal with Microsoft. | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > I have picked so many fights due to my ethical beliefs and support for | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > FSF that almost everyone hates me ;-) | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | No, those who hate are 100 times more vocal. So you only ever hear and notice those who hate you, not the remainder who quietly follow you and have no opposition or bone to pick (hi!). | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > But looking at the turn Ubuntu is taking, it's hard to trust anyone, | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > other than, as you said, FSF people. | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | And they too are shrinking. Microsoft and its satellite proxies work to weaken and destroy voices of reason. See what was done to Wikileaks; smears, accusations, scare tactics, arrests... | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > So, from now onwards we will only do the job of a reporter when comes to | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > openSUSE and Ubuntu. | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks for your suggestion. | Jun 22 00:48 |
| schestowitz | I think there's other stuff worth reporting on -- stuff that's unique. The vibe from companies like Canonical. Dell and Novell is misdirection. The real news is in raw data, analysis, and knowledge from disgruntled employees (Jono told us Microsoft tried to hire him a couple of times). | Jun 22 00:48 |
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| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6555/125/ | Jun 22 16:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Michael Geist - Last Call on C-11: My Appearance Before the Senate Committee on Banking, Trade & Commerce .::. Size~: 61.9 KB | Jun 22 16:49 |
| XFaCE | Help us Michael Geist, you're our only hope | Jun 22 16:50 |
| qu1j0t3 | heh | Jun 22 16:50 |
| XFaCE | qu1j0t3: I can summarize the nuanced, well-educated debate of COLA trolls with two songs: | Jun 22 17:36 |
| XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu8bairDDZs | Jun 22 17:36 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Genesis-Who Dunnit? - YouTube .::. Size~: 110.78 KB | Jun 22 17:36 |
| XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NpvZ68EIgA | Jun 22 17:37 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: the police - mother (synchronicity).wmv - YouTube .::. Size~: 159.85 KB | Jun 22 17:37 |
| *qu1j0t3 doesn't do c.o.l.a. | Jun 22 18:20 | |
| schestowitz | :I've always got a #Mint stick in my pocket. Don't leave home without it." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1736923 | Jun 22 18:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Live distro ! This is why you should always have one in your pocket … http://linuxaria.com/article/the-live-distro-this-is-why-you-should-always-have-one-in-your-pocket #gnu #linux | Jun 22 18:41 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: » Linuxaria – Everything about GNU/Linux and Open source The Live distro ! This is why you should always have one in your pocket … .::. Size~: 65.53 KB | Jun 22 18:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1729299 | Jun 22 18:43 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Our assumption that all army/policemen join the force to protect us is idealistic; a lot are sadistic, looking to join a gang to induce pain | Jun 22 18:43 |
| schestowitz | "|yea a lot of miscreants among them" | Jun 22 18:43 |
| schestowitz | "ain't it like in all of society?" | Jun 22 18:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1730304 | Jun 22 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Skype in Microsoft’s Hands Gives NSA Access to International Phonecalls http://techrights.org/2012/06/20/skype-and-nsa/ #skype #microsoft #nsa | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | "Or the way to Luxembourg (Skype Europe) is too far for them..." | Jun 22 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Skype in Microsoft’s Hands Gives NSA Access to International Phonecalls | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.25 KB | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1729028 | Jun 22 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO | Jun 22 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: COINTELPRO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 184.12 KB | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | "UK undercover police used similar tactics much more recently (last few years), including having agents who came to lead environmentalist groups in order to undermine them, and use romantic relationships as leverage for control" | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1731240 | Jun 22 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ecuador offers #Wikileaks founder #Assange residency http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11874911 I doubt the world's boss (USA) will permit this | Jun 22 18:46 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: BBC News - Ecuador offers Wikileaks founder Assange residency .::. Size~: 84.4 KB | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Ecuador has distanced itself from the U.S. as have a number of other South American countries. Obama gained little joy from the last conference of the Americas. | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | The offer would be genuine. It's an interesting proposition in light of the recent interview that Assange had with the current President of Ecuador on R.T., which you can access through YouTube. | Jun 22 18:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 22 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "I am equally sure that the U.S. will send a kill squad after him if he does get there. He could get there. His Ecuadorian associations would just make him a memeber of embassy staff and no cop will drag him out of a diplomatic vehicle then. With diplomatic immunity, that would create an international incident and would negate all diplomatic immunity provision. | Jun 22 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "No but you see, hes fugitive now. He must be pointed as attache to have any kind of immunity, but I dont if thats doable." | Jun 22 18:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1731248 | Jun 22 18:47 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #assange is so badly daemonised (and wanted by Western plutocrats) that he needs to run away like an ex-Nazi officer.Truth the new "nazism"? | Jun 22 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, even otherwise reasonable people have a terrible, personal animosity towards Assange. See this, for example, https://plus.google.com/u/0/114753028665775786510/posts/K7rxw7BrSk8 https://plus.google.com/u/0/114753028665775786510 " | Jun 22 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | "note this is from 2010 | Jun 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | "Perhaps you're right, but up until an hour ago, at least, Julian was still in the Ecuadorian embassy." | Jun 22 18:48 |
| schestowitz | "aaaah so that's why he picked Ecuador" | Jun 22 18:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz | Ecuador has distanced itself from the U.S. as have a number of other South American countries. Obama | Jun 22 19:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | gained little joy from the last conference of the Americas. | Jun 22 19:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | long overdue | Jun 22 19:41 |
| qu1j0t3 | South America needs to freeze USA and Canada out completely. | Jun 22 19:41 |
| schestowitz | The comment here smells like Nokia/MS astroturf (they got caught doing this): | Jun 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/Nokia/comments/vfsm4/nokia_the_latest_example_of_dead_microsoft/ | Jun 22 23:03 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Nokia the Latest Example of Dead Microsoft ‘Partners’, More Lined Up | Techrights : Nokia .::. Size~: 42.35 KB | Jun 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/Nokia/comments/vfsm4/nokia_the_latest_example_of_dead_microsoft/ | Jun 22 23:03 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Nokia the Latest Example of Dead Microsoft ‘Partners’, More Lined Up | Techrights : Nokia .::. Size~: 42.35 KB | Jun 22 23:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/Nokia/comments/vfsm4/nokia_the_latest_example_of_dead_microsoft/ | Jun 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | hardcore wp7 boosting | Jun 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/vfsuc/linux_driver_support_still_leaves_a_lot_to_desire/ | Jun 22 23:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Linux Driver Support Still Leaves A Lot To Desire : linux .::. Size~: 46.05 KB | Jun 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | "Who is he trying to get to acknowledge this issue? Reading the article it sounds like he's directing it at developers and the kernel devs which is not where it should be directed. The issues he lists are problems that are being worked on but aren't so easy when most things have to be reverse engineered. The Windows and OSX drivers perform better since they're developed by the people that create the device and know every bit | Jun 22 23:04 |
| schestowitz | of detail there is to know while we have to poke around in the dark. As long as manufacturers ignore us then the problem won't change and isn't something we can solve ourselves." | Jun 22 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | "That shounds quite a lot like ms-windows, long reboots after updates." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1737204 | Jun 22 23:17 |
| TechrightsSocial | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Fedora 18 will install certain updates when rebooting http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Fedora-18-will-install-certain-updates-when-rebooting-1621811.html #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 22 23:17 |
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