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XFaCEqu1j0t3: AHHHHJun 26 03:52
XFaCEqu1j0t3: It was terribleJun 26 03:52
XFaCEFreenode was always out of reachJun 26 03:52
qu1j0t3huh?Jun 26 03:53
qu1j0t3where did u goJun 26 03:53
XFaCEZNC was acting upJun 26 03:55
XFaCEI was stuck in limboJun 26 03:55
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MinceRhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21966-is-gods-mercy-to-blame-for-high-crime-rates.htmlJun 26 07:21
schestowitz"Even after the researchers had controlled for a host of crime-related cultural factors – including GDP, income inequality, population density and life expectancy – national crime rates were typically higher in countries with particularly strong beliefs in heaven but weak beliefs in hell."Jun 26 07:28
schestowitzBrilliantJun 26 07:28
schestowitzflipping the theist BS that fear of "God" lowers criminalityJun 26 07:28
schestowitz"god is merciful" :-)Jun 26 07:28
schestowitzunlike the victim :-)Jun 26 07:28
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XFaCEqu1j0t3: Any further news on Harper is really quite irrelevant no?Jun 26 13:48
XFaCEHe's already gone past the point of no return months to years agoJun 26 13:49
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/tb/vlxq6Jun 26 13:51
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747018Jun 26 14:07
schestowitz"Jun 26 14:07
schestowitzTwo things I have to say about this: Jun 26 14:07
schestowitz1) Not true. So far, the Surface is only going to be sold directly from Microsoft online or at Microsoft shops (all 5 of them). So it's really not a competitor to the OEMs, and the notion that it could even be an "iPad-killer" is typical tech-blog hype. I would be highly surprised if anyone I know owns a Surface a year from now. Jun 26 14:07
schestowitz2) These are the same OEMs who've released nothing but cheap, sloppy, low-quality crap for the past 15 years. Their business model is all about turning a quick profit off of garbage-in, garbage-out.Jun 26 14:07
schestowitz"Jun 26 14:07
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TechrightsSocialHello World! I'm TechrightsSocial running phIRCe v0.57Jun 26 14:08
TechrightsSocialTitle: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 39.22 KBJun 26 14:08
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/pH8xK.pngJun 26 14:14
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/png typeJun 26 14:14
schestowitzbrilliantJun 26 14:20
qu1j0t3XFaCE: pretty muchJun 26 14:46
schestowitzMinceR: sensitive crowd:Jun 26 15:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94929821Jun 26 15:16
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 13:39:29 UTC - Identi.ca: No!  It isn't humor.  Muslim clerics don't rape little girls.  Jews don't torture and eat infants.  Catholics don't abuse  1/2Jun 26 15:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94929988Jun 26 15:16
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 13:46:58 UTC - Identi.ca: was a heinous caricature of adult Semitic people, the Arab and the Jew, with huge hooked noses like Goebbels' propaganda. I'm sorry,  ohJun 26 15:16
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94930018 http://identi.ca/notice/94930561Jun 26 15:16
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 13:48:28 UTC - Identi.ca: I am so sorry, I am crying crying that was awful. It is my problem not yours. Those poor little boys bleeding, rape, noooo, I am sorry.Jun 26 15:16
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:06:17 UTC - Identi.ca: I only meant to share "soapUI to authenticate SOAP" http://ur1.ca/9kiqj it seemed lol-ishJun 26 15:16
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Authenticating SOAP Requests | SOAP and WSDL .::. Size~: 50.42 KBJun 26 15:17
MinceRthe truth hurtsJun 26 15:17
schestowitzThe humour is not offensive, except for superstitions.Jun 26 15:17
MinceRit's a pity that it hurt the children moreJun 26 15:18
MinceRthen again, they're not cult leaders so nobody gives a fuckJun 26 15:18
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/94930790Jun 26 15:19
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:15:03 UTC - Identi.ca: From there I saw this book  http://ur1.ca/9kiss published by wily WileyJun 26 15:19
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Wiley: The Database Hacker's Handbook: Defending Database Servers .::. Size~: 37.67 KBJun 26 15:19
schestowitzLOLJun 26 15:19
schestowitzmore BSJun 26 15:19
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/94929905Jun 26 15:19
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 13:44:17 UTC - Identi.ca: little boys. Well not like that.  The World Health Organization says circumcision prevents AIDS and infectious disease. That image 2/3Jun 26 15:19
schestowitzwell cutting everything off also helpsJun 26 15:19
schestowitzLOLJun 26 15:19
schestowitzIt's the same logic as saying cutting one's ear off would help prevent ear cancerJun 26 15:19
schestowitzthe whole "we're doing them a favour" apologismJun 26 15:20
schestowitzfor cutting babiesJun 26 15:20
schestowitzi'm sure the bible had AIDS in mind :-)Jun 26 15:20
schestowitz"divine knowledge"Jun 26 15:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BTCare/status/217586466409291777Jun 26 15:21
TechrightsSocial@BTCare: @schestowitz I'm glad to hear that the issue has been sorted out. If you need anything in the future please let me know.Jun 26 15:21
MinceRi'm sure sucking blood out of kids' newly mutilated genitals prevents AIDSJun 26 15:22
schestowitzI wish these issues happened less often. BT can darken a day (or 3 in a row).Jun 26 15:22
MinceRhttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Metzitzah_b%27peh#Suction.2C_metzitzah_techniqueJun 26 15:22
TechrightsSocialTitle: Brit milah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 171.87 KBJun 26 15:22
MinceRanother great tip to prevent the spread of AIDS is to not use condoms, courtesy of another abrahamic religion deserving a lot of respectJun 26 15:22
MinceRi wonder how they rationalize mutilating the genitals of females, thoughJun 26 15:23
MinceR"we've been doing that since the Bronze Age so it must be good"?Jun 26 15:23
schestowitzI think it's practiced by Muslims in AfricaJun 26 15:24
schestowitzNot sure about the alleged purposeJun 26 15:24
schestowitzProbably reduce sexual pleasureJun 26 15:24
schestowitzand since the religion hates women anyway, it would be a commendable goalJun 26 15:24
schestowitzvaginaphobiaJun 26 15:25
schestowitzIn Islam, Satan is a flying vagina monsterJun 26 15:25
qu1j0t3lulzJun 26 15:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94930930 http://identi.ca/notice/94930790Jun 26 15:26
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:20:10 UTC - Identi.ca: but got FUD deluxe Wiley Spies Among Us: Stop Spies Terrorists Hackers Criminals http://ur1.ca/9kitn Every Letter in CAPS!Jun 26 15:26
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Wiley: Spies Among Us: How to Stop the Spies, Terrorists, Hackers, and Criminals You Don't Even Know You Encounter Every Day .::. Size~: 34.42 KBJun 26 15:26
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:15:03 UTC - Identi.ca: From there I saw this book  http://ur1.ca/9kiss published by wily WileyJun 26 15:26
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: it's practised, yes. one of tribalism's ugliest forms.Jun 26 15:27
qu1j0t3schestowitz: as is male circumcisionJun 26 15:27
schestowitz"it's ok," they'd say, "cause the baby doesn't remember the pain"Jun 26 15:27
schestowitzout of sight, out of mindJun 26 15:27
schestowitzlike carpet-bmbinghJun 26 15:27
schestowitzno screams heard, no blood seenJun 26 15:27
qu1j0t3...Jun 26 15:27
qu1j0t3also, women aren't people.Jun 26 15:28
MinceRthere's another procedure after which the victim doesn't remember the painJun 26 15:29
MinceRit's called "killing"Jun 26 15:29
qu1j0t3yesJun 26 15:29
qu1j0t3and again, dehumanisation worksJun 26 15:29
qu1j0t3but, it's important to isolate tribalistic practices for what they areJun 26 15:29
schestowitzqu1j0t3: rib of people?Jun 26 15:31
qu1j0t3schestowitz: mutilationsJun 26 15:32
schestowitzwomen?Jun 26 15:32
schestowitzah, yesJun 26 15:32
schestowitzAdam had his rib mutilatedJun 26 15:32
schestowitzto make EveJun 26 15:32
schestowitzGod has a monopoly on thatJun 26 15:33
schestowitzshe has a turf war on mutilationJun 26 15:33
schestowitz"That is not religion, is pure madness..." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747778Jun 26 15:37
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Science Vs Religion #scienceJun 26 15:37
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MinceRhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/BMWqTEfldjh3f3naEtAjrR9fo1_400.jpgJun 26 15:39
TechrightsSocialNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJun 26 15:39
schestowitzOver a year now since Assange et al. last updated in identi.ca http://identi.ca/wikileaks #wikileaksJun 26 15:43
TechrightsSocialTitle: wikileaks - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 49.43 KBJun 26 15:43
schestowitzMinceR: science reconstructs damaged genitalia, religion damages genitaliaJun 26 15:44
schestowitzMinceR: science Today I posted this  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747778Jun 26 15:45
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Science Vs Religion #scienceJun 26 15:45
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MinceRthat's what i was replying to :>Jun 26 15:45
schestowitzsigh:Jun 26 16:24
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94931790Jun 26 16:24
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:54:04 UTC - Identi.ca: Oh! You thought I meant female circumcision, no.  WHO did legit epidemiological studies for men & women. Western elitists think that...Jun 26 16:24
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94931875Jun 26 16:24
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:57:49 UTC - Identi.ca: safe practices for hygiene, health apply only to developing countries. But African men & women have same physiology etc as USA, Europe.  AndJun 26 16:24
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94932015Jun 26 16:24
TechrightsSocial@Ellie Kesselman (elliek)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 15:02:36 UTC - Identi.ca: Warning: NSFW verbiage (I'm not crying now ;^) oral sex w/circumcised males is more appetizing, digestible. Don't be irate w/me. Please?Jun 26 16:24
schestowitzIdiotic propaganda for child mutilationJun 26 16:24
schestowitzchild genital mutilationJun 26 16:24
schestowitzthe "We're doing them a favour" thingJun 26 16:25
qu1j0t3there are no hygiene/health arguments.Jun 26 16:27
qu1j0t3no valid onesJun 26 16:27
qu1j0t3it's tribalism and nothing more.Jun 26 16:27
qu1j0t3it's a permanent mark to bind the person to the tribe.Jun 26 16:27
qu1j0t3they get no choice in it.Jun 26 16:27
qu1j0t3that's all it is.Jun 26 16:28
qu1j0t3it's easy to confirm when one looks at how the practice is perpetuated.Jun 26 16:28
qu1j0t3it's perpetuated through threats of ostracismJun 26 16:28
qu1j0t3they break every other rule but this one, because it's the tribal markJun 26 16:28
qu1j0t3this is the one non-negotiable thing.Jun 26 16:29
qu1j0t3if the baby doesn't get this mark, then the whole family is effectively ostracisedJun 26 16:29
qu1j0t3... at least that's how it works in the USA. :)Jun 26 16:29
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schestowitzreligions are like thatJun 26 17:23
schestowitzBT strives to be garbage of all garbage, with an uptime of maybe a miserable 98%. I asked BTCare, Why need the phoneline and Net go down so often?Jun 26 17:23
schestowitzbeen this shit for 4 days, I'm very pissed offJun 26 17:23
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747687Jun 26 17:27
schestowitz"Jun 26 17:27
schestowitzA well put video. Far more balanced than much of the debate I see here. I thought this line really summed it up for me:Jun 26 17:27
schestowitz"If we're to grow up as a species, we need to address the systems that infantalize us".Jun 26 17:27
schestowitzThat said, I see people using atheism just like this video describes religion. ie a from a position of "Everyone must believe what I do, or they're stupid / rebelling / brainwashed.". This is exactly the same kind of autocratic "parent to child" relationship this video describes as being so problematic.Jun 26 17:27
schestowitzTo me it comes down to that we need to defend against people being closed minded,...Jun 26 17:27
schestowitz"Jun 26 17:27
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Just watched and liked this: http://youtu.be/8Eam-z1bwrk #religion #people #preaching #politics #lifeJun 26 17:27
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1746986Jun 26 17:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22362303.jpg) #diasporaJun 26 17:33
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schestowitz"Waaaaaaaaaaay too true... XD"Jun 26 17:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747848Jun 26 17:33
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Galaxy S3 Ubuntu installation possible, if you got the urge for some Linux http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-ubuntu-installation-linux-97316/ making powerful phones actually usableJun 26 17:33
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Galaxy S3 Ubuntu installation possible, if you got the urge for some Linux .::. Size~: 59.05 KBJun 26 17:33
schestowitz"Like putting Linux on a Windows machine makes it actually usable xD"Jun 26 17:33
schestowitzhehe, yeah, exactlyJun 26 17:33
qu1j0t3XFaCE: https://twitter.com/samadino/status/217654076597473283Jun 26 17:35
TechrightsSocial@samadino: 2015 will be too late: We need an unprecedented mass movement to really stop Harper | rabble.ca: http://t.co/ad4EVp9C #DenounceHarperJun 26 17:35
TechrightsSocial-> Title: 2015 will be too late: We need an unprecedented mass movement to really stop Harper  | rabble.ca .::. Size~: 33.73 KBJun 26 17:35
qu1j0t3XFaCE: RTJun 26 17:35
schestowitz> Roy – NOW we are really getting down to business: the latest ownCloudJun 26 18:06
schestowitz> commercial versions enable IT to easily integrate end-user friendly fileJun 26 18:06
schestowitz> synch and share into existing corporate IT – from leveraging existingJun 26 18:06
schestowitz> storage, authentication, tracking and security tools all the way toJun 26 18:06
schestowitz> “theming” (making it look and feel the way they want). IT gets theJun 26 18:06
schestowitz> flexibility and oversight they need, end users get to easily synch andJun 26 18:06
schestowitz> share their files – and stay on IT’s good side.Jun 26 18:06
schestowitz> Jun 26 18:06
schestowitz>  Jun 26 18:06
schestowitz> Jun 26 18:06
schestowitz> We are launching Thursday, but happy to get you an embargoed releaseJun 26 18:06
schestowitz> and/or set you up with a chat.Jun 26 18:06
XFaCEschestowitz: what do you do on skype nowadays?Jun 26 18:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1729328Jun 26 18:59
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is #Calligra A Great Alternative to LibreOffice?  http://maketecheasier.com/is-calligra-a-great-alternative-to-libreoffice/2012/06/18 #kde #odfJun 26 18:59
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Is Calligra A Great Alternative to LibreOffice? .::. Size~: 48.1 KBJun 26 18:59
schestowitzIf something shows differently in Libre Office and in Calligra, which do you submit the bug to?Jun 26 18:59
schestowitzSays Dan Leinir:Jun 26 18:59
schestowitz> such documents should probably be brought to the attention of the Jun 26 18:59
schestowitzCalligra devs, i know there's a huge selection of documents being used as Jun 26 18:59
schestowitzregression testing material, and such documents would of course be great Jun 26 18:59
schestowitzthere. i would think sending a mail on the topic to the Calligra development Jun 26 18:59
schestowitzmailing list should do the trick - calligra-devel@kde.org :)Jun 26 18:59
schestowitz"Jun 26 19:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1740016Jun 26 19:50
TechrightsSocial@greenfeat@joindiaspora.com: #canada, #politics, #tarsands, #colossalfossil, #climatedenialJun 26 19:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1741257Jun 26 19:50
TechrightsSocial@greenfeat@joindiaspora.com: #canada, #politics, #climatechange, #climatetalks, #colossalfossil, #stopharperJun 26 19:50
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qu1j0t3http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1439/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=10891Jun 26 19:51
TechrightsSocialTitle: Urge President Correa to Grant Asylum to Julian Assange .::. Size~: 41.24 KBJun 26 19:51
schestowitz"Wow, now that's what I call "unnecessary"." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748352Jun 26 20:26
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #enormous #jump #gifJun 26 20:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747485Jun 26 21:49
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Outcry as Iraq moves to close 44 media orgs **Press freedom advocates cry foul as authorities announce closure of dozens of media outlets.**     ![photo: Iraqi newpapers](http://gdb.rferl.org/EC348771-0F9C-4F7B-AD43-0A1DCDD76F14_mw800_s.jpg)            [Kristin Deasy/globalpost.com](http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/iraq/120623/outcry-iraq-moves-close-44-media-orgs) Jun 26 21:49
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schestowitz"The same thing is happening here in the US. It's the inevitable result of media consolidation and ownership by copyright maximalists. I'm afraid the reason is the same, rich and powerful people don't want their neighbors to be well informed."Jun 26 21:49
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM3nvATF-U8&w=630&h=385 Jun 26 22:01
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qu1j0t3it's hardly a contest. being 'functional' is hard enough. who gives a shit about 'best'?Jun 26 22:04
schestowitzUSA USA USA!!Jun 26 22:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747865Jun 26 23:36
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: RT @glynmoody New #GM industry push in the UK - http://bit.ly/MPgKnp more weak reporting by #BBCJun 26 23:36
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schestowitz"The FT also quotes John Stevenson MP, who chairs the all party parliamentary group on food and drink manufacturing, "Potentially there is a huge risk that yes, in 20 years time we might be eating GM food but the research and science and centres of excellence could be in other parts of the world developing the products of the future. We would rather see that happening in Britain." http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e5033596-bebd-11e1-Jun 26 23:36
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schestowitzSo, in other words, whether its industry, Big Science or GM's political supporters, the focus is on going for the money, rather than the...Jun 26 23:36
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747485Jun 26 23:37
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Outcry as Iraq moves to close 44 media orgs **Press freedom advocates cry foul as authorities announce closure of dozens of media outlets.**     ![photo: Iraqi newpapers](http://gdb.rferl.org/EC348771-0F9C-4F7B-AD43-0A1DCDD76F14_mw800_s.jpg)            [Kristin Deasy/globalpost.com](http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/iraq/120623/outcry-iraq-moves-close-44-media-orgs) Jun 26 23:37
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schestowitz"Exactly, 'We', everywhere, are the enemy."Jun 26 23:37
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