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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Secure' boot: Ubuntu goes one worse than Red Hat http://ur1.ca/9pwft http://ur1.ca/9pwfu #redhat #fsf #gnuJul 04 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slackel #KDE 4.8.2-1 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/9pwg5 #gnu #linuxJul 04 00:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #PinguyOS 12.04 LTS http://ur1.ca/9pwgc #gnu #linuxJul 04 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Secure' boot: Ubuntu goes one worse than Red Hat .::. Size~: 91.61 KBJul 04 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Software Foundation: Ubuntu's Secure Boot Plan Won't Fly | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 79.76 KBJul 04 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slackel KDE 4.8.2-1 Screenshots .::. Size~: 28.09 KBJul 04 00:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Pinguy OS 12.04 LTS .::. Size~: 94.45 KBJul 04 00:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1767204Jul 04 00:19
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ubuntu 'app' helps you save your work on NSA-accessible Google servers rather than your own hard drive http://www.muktware.com/3811/gwoffice-write-edit-and-manage-google-docs #privacyJul 04 00:19
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schestowitz"reminds me a little of the old corporate networks with thin clients and terminal servers, give me the creeps for some reason :) he, he..."Jul 04 00:19
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95131551Jul 04 00:19
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jul-12 22:49:25 UTC - Identi.ca: Megauploads, #WikiLeaks and Independence Day http://ur1.ca/9pwbr #internet #stateterrorism #imperialism #hollywood #cronycapitalismJul 04 00:19
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Megauploads, WikiLeaks and Independence Day | FOSS Force .::. Size~: 89.04 KBJul 04 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Passionate about free software and want to make a change? The @FSF is hiring two campaign managers https://eff.org/r.a8eDJul 04 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 3/7/2012: KDE on the Raspberry Pi, Linux 3.5 RC5 http://ur1.ca/9pwmv #techrightsJul 04 01:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Two job openings on the FSF campaigns team — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 31.62 KBJul 04 01:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 3/7/2012: KDE on the Raspberry Pi, Linux 3.5 RC5 | Techrights .::. Size~: 141.48 KBJul 04 01:04
schestowitzhttps://joinup.ec.europa.eu/news/governments-embrace-open-data-will-also-switch-open-sourceJul 04 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Governments that embrace open data will also switch to open source' | Joinup .::. Size~: 26.86 KBJul 04 01:10
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/2012/07/02/another-card-falls-in-ms-house-of-cards/Jul 04 01:12
schestowitz"Free Software Foundation on Secure Boot"Jul 04 01:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Card Falls in M$’s House of Cards at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 37.32 KBJul 04 01:12
schestowitz"Inspires confidence, eh? A company that has conned the world into believing the world owes M$ a living now reaps what it sews. The world has discovered it does not need to buy what M$ sells. What card will fall next? The desktop OS? The office suite?"Jul 04 01:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1767296Jul 04 01:16
schestowitz"Jul 04 01:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # [Google Inc., YouTube LLC: Allow third party recording tools for YouTube](http://is.gd/GfPlyw) <br> ### #Petition Created By [Philip Matesanz](http://is.gd/Lctcyw), Wedemark, Germany <br> <p>Allow third party recording tools for YouTube</p> <p>Greetings,</p> <p>I just signed the following petition addressed to: Google Inc., YouTube LLC.</p> <hr /> Allow third party recording #tools for #YouTube <br> <p>FoJul 04 01:16
schestowitzClive was a Google code project and it is free software. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cliveJul 04 01:16
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schestowitzIs Google taking action against other sites? What action is that?Jul 04 01:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian -- Details of package clive in squeeze .::. Size~: 14.85 KBJul 04 01:16
schestowitz"Jul 04 01:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1767481Jul 04 01:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Secure' boot: Ubuntu goes one worse than Red Hat  http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/55510-secure-boot-ubuntu-goes-one-worse-than-red-hat http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/258675/free_software_foundation_ubuntus_secure_boot_plan_wont_fly.html #redhat #fsf #gnuJul 04 01:16
schestowitz"Anger should be directed at the responsible party, Microsoft."Jul 04 01:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @unseenstudio the 1st #Crivins withoot @kevie, episode 21 is oot, wi @davebug & @moosical http://is.gd/Val7Ph #ccmusic #FOSSJul 04 01:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crivins Episode 21 | Unseen Studio Audiocasts .::. Size~: 21.66 KBJul 04 01:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] After briefs from @eff and @indiegogo, Charles Carreon has dismissed his bogus lawsuit against @Oatmeal https://eff.org/r.5aeGJul 04 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Charles Carreon Drops Bogus Lawsuit Against The Oatmeal Creator | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.54 KBJul 04 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Louisiana Schools To Teach That Evolution Is False, Loch Ness Monster Is Real bit.ly/KZ3gpU !religion !atheism !lolJul 04 01:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF and other civil society groups issue joint statement on U.S. TPP copyright proposal: https://eff.org/r.a7eHJul 04 01:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Joint Statement of Civil Society Groups on U.S. TPP Copyright Proposal | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 37.13 KBJul 04 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @rms: Urgent: Email European Parliament to oppose ACTA http://ur1.ca/9pwu5Jul 04 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @GeorgieBC: Follow @jerezim NOW for the #ACTA vote! And read his timeline to get up to date.Jul 04 01:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2012: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman .::. Size~: 617.47 KBJul 04 01:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] RT @fontana I have begun a fork of !GPLv3 on GitHub: http://ur1.ca/9pucd !fsf !gnuJul 04 03:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: richardfontana/GPL.next · GitHub .::. Size~: 34.87 KBJul 04 03:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Naive, but has to be asked (& not answered in github readme): Why?Jul 04 03:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Another Reason The Music Industry Won't Be Coming Back -- History Of Music Is More About Participation Than Compensation http://is.gd/fIzrCKJul 04 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #PIPA Author Senator Leahy Gets His Reward: A Part In 'The Dark Knight Rises' http://goo.gl/9GbDmJul 04 03:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Twitter faces the same dilemma as the New York Times http://goo.gl/FuVy9Jul 04 03:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Reason The Music Industry Won't Be Coming Back -- The History Of Music Is More About Participation Than Compensation | Techdirt .::. Size~: 116.91 KBJul 04 03:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: PIPA Author Senator Leahy Gets His Reward: A Part In 'The Dark Knight Rises' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.19 KBJul 04 03:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter faces the same dilemma as the New York Times — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 83.03 KBJul 04 03:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Plenty of room for your answer here: http://ur1.ca/9q00yJul 04 04:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Simon Phipps - Google+ - +Richard Fontana forks the GPL and starts a GPL.next… .::. Size~: 162 KBJul 04 04:49
XFaCEjono: wow, you're still upJul 04 05:06
XFaCEtake out your guitar; let's jamJul 04 05:06
jonoXFaCE, hehe :-)Jul 04 05:08
XFaCEjono: Lou Reed?Jul 04 05:11
XFaCEhehJul 04 05:14
jono:-)Jul 04 05:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] GNU Spotlight with Karl Berry fsf.org/blogs/community/gnu-spotlight-with-karl-berry-june-2012 !fsf !gnu !lpJul 04 05:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @fontana I have begun a fork of !GPLv3 on GitHub: http://ur1.ca/9pucd !fsf !gnuJul 04 05:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: richardfontana/GPL.next · GitHub .::. Size~: 34.87 KBJul 04 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Skpl @Theru @ParlementumJul 04 06:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Scientists at the HLC say they are close to confirming the existence of the Higgs Boson.Jul 04 06:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Man Utd are to list on the NYSE. #FootballindustryJul 04 06:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Is the law to protect the people or is it a servant of !capitalism?"Jul 04 06:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] EU: software licenses may be sold by consumers http://identi.ca/url/72592322 !eff !fsfJul 04 06:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Charles Carreon drops lawsuit against The Oatmeal http://identi.ca/url/72605935 !effJul 04 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] IKEA criticized for clear-cutting Russian old-growth forests http://identi.ca/url/72606014Jul 04 06:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Charles Carreon Drops Bogus Lawsuit Against The Oatmeal Creator | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 23.52 KBJul 04 06:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1767768Jul 04 06:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Links 3/7/2012: KDE on the Raspberry Pi, Linux 3.5 RC5 http://techrights.org/2012/07/03/linux-3-5-rc5/ #techrightsJul 04 06:50
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schestowitz"Where is MY raspberry? :) I'll get it, one day."Jul 04 06:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1767614Jul 04 06:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: decline of empire ![decline of empire](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6k5ayhcGc1r0pw1wo1_500.jpg) #trains #china #warJul 04 06:50
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schestowitz"Trains in america don't get into an accident once every two weeks.."Jul 04 06:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Kim Dotcom: Joe Biden Ordered the Megaupload Shutdown http://identi.ca/url/72606071 !eff !fsfJul 04 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] TOR project uncovers flaw in mass-surveillance appliance http://identi.ca/url/72606122 !eff !fsfJul 04 06:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why Two Insulators Together Can Transport Electricity http://identi.ca/url/72606144 !scienceJul 04 06:57
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Security vulnerability found in Cyberoam DPI devices (CVE-2012-3372) | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 17.84 KBJul 04 06:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Controversy clarified: Why two insulators together can transport electricity .::. Size~: 58.55 KBJul 04 06:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Google and Ubuntu don't say “Linux” http://ur1.ca/9q0oeJul 04 07:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Google and Ubuntu don't say “Linux” | ZDNet .::. Size~: 75.87 KBJul 04 07:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The USPTO: Where Up Is Down, Expensive Medicine Saves Lives, And Cheap Alternatives Violate International Law http://identi.ca/url/72606457Jul 04 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] July 2012 Issue of Linux Journal: Networking http://ur1.ca/9q0qx #linuxJul 04 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Jimmy Wales Confident That UK Gov't Won't Ignore 200,000+ Signatures Against O'Dwyer Extradition http://identi.ca/url/72606469 !effJul 04 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Gamers Banned From Diablo III Servers http://ur1.ca/9q0r6 #games #linuxJul 04 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] EuroParl ACTA Fighting Down to the Wire http://identi.ca/url/72606480 !effJul 04 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Music Industry Won't Be Coming Back -- The History Of Music Is More About Participation Than Compensation http://identi.ca/url/72606491Jul 04 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nautilus To Get Major Makeover In Gnome 3.6 http://ur1.ca/9q0rj #gnome #gnu #linuxJul 04 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The USPTO: Where Up Is Down, Expensive Medicine Saves Lives, And Cheap Alternatives Violate International Law | Techdirt .::. Size~: 76.55 KBJul 04 07:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] USTR's Surprise Turnaround: Now Advocating Limitations & Exceptions To Copyright http://identi.ca/url/72606498 !eff !fsfJul 04 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: July 2012 Issue of Linux Journal: Networking | Linux Journal .::. Size~: 70.08 KBJul 04 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jimmy Wales Confident That UK Gov't Won't Ignore 200,000+ Signatures Against O'Dwyer Extradition | Techdirt .::. Size~: 83.97 KBJul 04 07:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Another Reason The Music Industry Won't Be Coming Back -- The History Of Music Is More About Participation Than Compensation | Techdirt .::. Size~: 130.97 KBJul 04 07:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nautilus To Get Major Makeover In Gnome 3.6 - Muktware .::. Size~: 27.83 KBJul 04 07:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] How much of a factor is climate change in the 2012 Western US wildfires? Ask a NASA JPL scientist http://identi.ca/url/72606543 !scienceJul 04 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Glibc 2.16 supports the x32 ABI - Update http://ur1.ca/9q0sc #gnu #glibcJul 04 07:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Governments that embrace open data will also switch to open source' http://ur1.ca/9pqoeJul 04 07:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Government Wants Access To Your Data http://ur1.ca/9q0sk #spyingJul 04 07:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "I have been writing a poem about my compost heap for years now."Jul 04 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fuduntu 2012.3 Released http://ur1.ca/9q0t4 #gnu #linuxJul 04 07:34
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DaemonFChttp://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/07/xscreensaver-5-18/Jul 04 07:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: XScreenSaver 5.18 | jwz .::. Size~: 30.17 KBJul 04 07:35
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DaemonFC"XScreenSaver 5.18 is out now. A bunch of iOS tweaks, mostly.Jul 04 07:35
DaemonFCI had submitted 5.17 to the app store on June 22, and they only got around to reviewing it today -- July 3, 11 days later. They rejected it because a single one of the ~200 display modes failed to launch."Jul 04 07:35
DaemonFC"I added a "review note" this time asking them not to be ridiculous, but I doubt they even read those."Jul 04 07:36
DaemonFCdevelop for AndroidJul 04 07:36
DaemonFCGoogle is more reasonableJul 04 07:36
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 07:36
DaemonFCthe idea that Apple charges you $100 for a developer account each year even if all your apps are free is just ridiculousJul 04 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blizzard Perma-Bans Linux Users From Diablo 3, Lets Botters Continue To Play http://ur1.ca/9q0tq PR disaster for themJul 04 07:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] July 2012 Issue of The #PCLinuxOS Magazine Released http://ur1.ca/9q0um #pclos #gnu #linuxJul 04 07:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blizzard Perma-Bans Linux Users From Diablo 3, Lets Botters Continue To Play .::. Size~: 35.87 KBJul 04 07:41
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768284Jul 04 07:43
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nautilus To Get Major Makeover In Gnome 3.6 http://www.muktware.com/3821/nautilus-get-major-make-over-gnome-36 #gnome #gnu #linuxJul 04 07:43
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schestowitz"OMG. This sounds like bad news for everyone who intends to actually work on their Gnome based Linux system. And why would they remove the split-pane-view? They just introduced it a few versions ago. Well, whatever... Not my problem. They won't touch xterm I guess :D"Jul 04 07:43
MinceRwhat's even the point of porting XScreenSaver to hypeOS?Jul 04 07:44
MinceR(other than that jwz lost his mind ages ago, obviously)Jul 04 07:44
DaemonFCI believe Google charges something like $5 a year for a developer accountJul 04 07:44
DaemonFCand that's mostly to confirm who is behind the account and get an actual physical address in case you submit something maliciousJul 04 07:45
DaemonFCApple's fee is large enough to deter most developers from signing up just to distribute freeware Jul 04 07:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1767316Jul 04 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: ZaReason CEO setting up new branch in New Zealand http://zareason.blogspot.co.nz/ #nz #linuxJul 04 07:45
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schestowitz"This has me excited as an out-of-work Kiwi!"Jul 04 07:45
MinceRyou could just put an apk on your websiteJul 04 07:45
MinceRand not pay anyoneJul 04 07:45
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DaemonFCApple also tends to reject freeware apps for all kinds of insane reasons they let slide with paid appsJul 04 07:46
MinceRand not subject your package to the killswitch :>Jul 04 07:46
DaemonFCI can only assume Apple doesn't like freeware apps because they don't make Apple much moneyJul 04 07:46
DaemonFCso they enact penalty fees and a stricter review to discourage freeware for iOSJul 04 07:46
DaemonFCmost apps are unprofitable for the developer no matter what they chargeJul 04 07:47
DaemonFCyou charge too little and Apple eats up all your profit marginJul 04 07:47
DaemonFCyou charge too much and few people buy your appJul 04 07:47
DaemonFCand either way, you still get hit with all kinds of fees just for the ability to submit apps to be publishedJul 04 07:48
DaemonFCit's ridiculousJul 04 07:48
DaemonFCAndroid doesn't have this problemJul 04 07:48
DaemonFCyou're almost guaranteed at least a few bucks from each user even for freeware apps, from the Google adsJul 04 07:48
DaemonFCGoogle's policies encourage freeware and ad-sponsored softwareJul 04 07:49
DaemonFCso there tends to be about as much of that as there is paid appsJul 04 07:49
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DaemonFCand most paid apps that cost <$5 have a free version with adsJul 04 07:49
DaemonFCI don't really have a problem with thatJul 04 07:49
DaemonFCif I like the app enough to use it a lot I will either pay for it with my card or pay for it by watching the rather small and unobtrusive adsJul 04 07:50
DaemonFCthey're really not much of an eyesore at allJul 04 07:50
DaemonFCin fact, barely even noticeable Jul 04 07:50
DaemonFCApple claims it is worried about "brand dilution", but in the end it does come down to nickel and diming every last one of their usersJul 04 07:51
DaemonFCif they were really concerned about brand dilution, they would not have a single item for sale at WalmartJul 04 07:52
DaemonFCit doesn't get anymore Joe Everyman than WalmartJul 04 07:52
DaemonFCthat's why the cultists got all pissy about ipods at Walmart (now all kinds of Apple stuff)Jul 04 07:52
DaemonFCit cheapens the brand when Walmart gets Apple to lower the price a few bucks on everythingJul 04 07:53
DaemonFCeven if the savings aren't that much, the fact that Walmart managed to get any concessions from Apple at all is probably enough to piss off the cultistsJul 04 07:53
DaemonFC$5-10 off an ipad is not a significant savings, but it causes the cultists to freak outJul 04 07:54
DaemonFCApple's tablets not only tend to cost 2-3 times what a similar Android tablet does, but since there are very few "free" apps, you'll end up paying another several hundred dollars before the tablet even does anything remotely usefulJul 04 07:55
DaemonFCso that $5-10 you saved at Walmart will be gone the first time you buy an appJul 04 07:55
DaemonFCMinceR: Most of Indiana has made it a crime to set off fireworks todayJul 04 07:56
MinceR:>Jul 04 07:56
DaemonFCClass B Misdemeanor, punishable by up to 6 months in jailJul 04 07:56
DaemonFCand a fine not to exceed $2,500Jul 04 07:56
MinceRi hate it when people blow up stuff on the streetJul 04 07:56
MinceRbecause they just have to call attention to themselvesJul 04 07:56
DaemonFCit's because of emergency burn bans in place in about 80 of Indiana's 92 countiesJul 04 07:56
DaemonFC(so, more or less the entire state)Jul 04 07:56
MinceRon certain holidays, this place sounds like a war zoneJul 04 07:57
DaemonFCthis is because of global warm.....I mean, Jesus is punishing us because of all the gay peopleJul 04 07:57
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 07:57
MinceR(occasionally looks like it too)Jul 04 07:57
DaemonFCMinceR: Allen County has already arrested several people for setting off fireworksJul 04 07:58
MinceRi don't see why crApple would care about brand dilutionJul 04 07:58
MinceRthey already get away with selling utter crapJul 04 07:58
DaemonFCI assume thousands of people will set them off anyway in spite of the emergency burn banJul 04 07:58
DaemonFCseveral houses / other buildings will burn downJul 04 07:58
DaemonFCenforcement of the law will be spottyJul 04 07:58
MinceRit doesn't get any more "diluted" than when the owner of the brand sells crapJul 04 07:59
DaemonFCthe few people who do get arrested will be mostly white trash that don't care about following the law anywayJul 04 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Government-sponsored study destroys DEA’s classification of #marijuana | The Raw Story http://goo.gl/iEkYSJul 04 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] PHP - 10 years of struggling with a bug that changes upper- to lowercase when using different Locales. #facepalm #infi... http://b1t.it/bIbaJul 04 07:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Akshay Bist http://ur1.ca/9q0xkJul 04 07:59
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DaemonFCclaiming "Well gee that's a stupid law!" while openly defying it is generally frowned uponJul 04 08:00
MinceRof course the solution to my fireworks problem would be to live in a civilized placeJul 04 08:00
DaemonFCbut this trailer trash considers being in jail every now and then as a fact of lifeJul 04 08:00
DaemonFCMinceR: Is this a widespread problem in Hungaristan?Jul 04 08:00
MinceRnot in an area filled with concrete boxes filled with people in MordorJul 04 08:00
MinceRdunnoJul 04 08:00
DaemonFCit doesn't matter if I think the law is stupidJul 04 08:01
MinceRthe population density is too high in most of this cityJul 04 08:01
DaemonFCthe police officer that will arrest me doesn't care what I think about the lawJul 04 08:01
DaemonFCthe politicians don't care what I have to say or they wouldn't pass so many laws I disagree withJul 04 08:01
DaemonFCif I break the law, it's not going to be openly and/or defiantly because I'm not an idiotJul 04 08:02
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 08:02
DaemonFCof course we have stupid laws, because we have stupid people who keep electing stupid and corrupt politiciansJul 04 08:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Official Ubuntu 12.04 LTS getting started guide published http://ur1.ca/9q0yo #ubuntuJul 04 08:02
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DaemonFCwhat was it Carlin said?Jul 04 08:03
DaemonFCsomething like "This is it folks, don't wait for it to get any better. Be happy with what you have!"Jul 04 08:03
DaemonFCthey'll be back to take everything else laterJul 04 08:03
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 08:03
DaemonFCone by one, all your rights, goneJul 04 08:04
DaemonFCfirst they tell you that you can say whatever you wantJul 04 08:04
DaemonFCthen they start limiting thatJul 04 08:04
DaemonFCcalling religious people stupid becomes "hate speech" even if they really are stupidJul 04 08:04
MinceR:>Jul 04 08:04
DaemonFCnot wearing your seat belt is a fine even though you are an adult and used to be at least nominally free to make your own decisions even if they are bad onesJul 04 08:05
DaemonFCand now smoking and eating too much tooJul 04 08:05
DaemonFCI don't see why there should be a seat belt lawJul 04 08:06
DaemonFCthe increased deaths would be from idiots that don't buckle their seat beltJul 04 08:06
DaemonFCwhat would we be losing here exactly?Jul 04 08:06
DaemonFCI wouldn't stop wearing my seat belt if the law changed Jul 04 08:07
DaemonFCMinceR: We're just one regulation away from paradise!Jul 04 08:07
DaemonFCYour neighbors know what's best for you even though they won't be facing your consequences or paying the fines/billsJul 04 08:08
DaemonFCoh my god, it's like I'm god!Jul 04 08:08
DaemonFCI can elect people who tell other people what's good for them for their own good!Jul 04 08:09
DaemonFCthe power!Jul 04 08:09
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm not sure why hospitals have to treat _everyone_Jul 04 08:09
DaemonFCyou literally get people showing up saying "I have no health insurance and I broke my leg by jumping off a roof onto a mattress in the lawn!"Jul 04 08:10
DaemonFCthe right response would be "Haha! Enjoy the broken leg you fucking idiot!"Jul 04 08:10
DaemonFCpeople would get the hint or at least not drain tax money doing stupid shitJul 04 08:10
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 08:10
DaemonFCwhen you offload the consequences from people's stupid decisions onto society, you encourage *more* stupid decisionsJul 04 08:11
*DaemonFC thinks they should just shoot people who set off fireworks unless they can prove that they can pay for millions of dollars in property damage they cause othersJul 04 08:12
DaemonFCbut I doubt they even have insurance on their own persons and propertyJul 04 08:13
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DaemonFCMinceR: The entire thing is a mess. There are two Indiana laws right now that directly contradict each other.Jul 04 08:14
DaemonFCThe "fireworks lobbyists" bought a law that says local governments can't tell you not to set off fireworks on the fourth of JulyJul 04 08:14
DaemonFCbut state emergency law says that if a county issues an emergency burn ban, then they can enforce it and be free of any state-level interferenceJul 04 08:14
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 08:14
DaemonFCso the position of our state attorney general (bought and paid for) is that the fireworks law takes priorityJul 04 08:15
DaemonFCand the position of 80 counties that don't want to be on fire is "Yes we can ban fireworks" and "fuck you!"Jul 04 08:15
DaemonFCthis should be interestingJul 04 08:15
DaemonFCthe state has been moving to seize control from local governments for yearsJul 04 08:17
DaemonFCI think it's primarily because for ALEC-sponsored bills to have an effect, you have to take away the choice of communities not to obey themJul 04 08:17
DaemonFChttp://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hCdS6FuayNd09gxfjFnKRsZn8D0g?docId=CNG.539e82fcbb002a40e2e0d01fa5ceb1aa.381Jul 04 08:18
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DaemonFCDoesn't China usually just shoot all the protesters and then try to cover it up?Jul 04 08:18
DaemonFC"Li insisted the copper factory would have brought Shifang many jobs and economic benefits"Jul 04 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 30 Linux Kernel Developers in 30 Weeks: Jean Delvare http://ur1.ca/9q11f #linux #kernelJul 04 08:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Computervision library ccv reaches 0.1 milestone http://ur1.ca/9q122 #opensourceJul 04 08:19
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DaemonFCworking for 20 cents an hour in 18 hour shifts 6-7 days a week is not a benefit to the workerJul 04 08:19
DaemonFCif there are more uprisings like this, and China can't suppress them, there will be a flight of jobs from the country and into one that can break their populations and get them to accept those shitty working conditionsJul 04 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTA: Last-Minute Appeal to EPP Group - http://bit.ly/N816U0 pl. send one last email to the only group not voting against #ACTAJul 04 08:21
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DaemonFChttp://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i-yWgk9WsgFia503semo_TqvWwgQ?docId=CNG.f4459e0f53e077e76c4c5d00465deede.221Jul 04 08:22
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DaemonFC"No reason was given, but it is politically inconceivable that Obama would open himself up to attacks over a vacation bolt hole for east coast elites, a few months before an election dominated by the plight of the middle class."Jul 04 08:22
DaemonFCI don't know why, Bush always got away with taking 3 month vacations and waving his middle finger at the working classJul 04 08:22
DaemonFCof course Bush's supporters weren't people who worked for a living, they were the ones who were sponging off the workersJul 04 08:23
DaemonFCso Obama might not have that luxury to such an extentJul 04 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA under fire ahead of crucial vote - http://bit.ly/MIrOnD so says the European Parliament's news siteJul 04 08:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EFF Joins Coalition Urging EU Parliament to Reject #ACTA - http://bit.ly/MTtK9i just in case you doubted itJul 04 08:29
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*DaemonFC has taken to referring to Romney as "Mittens"Jul 04 08:30
DaemonFCwhat a delightfully cute nickname for something so menacing and evilJul 04 08:30
DaemonFCit's like getting a rabid junkyard dog and calling it Mittens for the deliberate ironyJul 04 08:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Die digitale Generation hofft auf ihren ersten Sieg - http://bit.ly/LOGfFS good summary of how we got here #ACTA (v @netzpolitik)Jul 04 08:31
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DaemonFChttps://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/07/03/president-obama-praises-john-mccain-mitt-romney-chums-bill-clinton/z0PPi3vYBP9DHNeHpwmfdO/story.htmlJul 04 08:32
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DaemonFCin a way this is just admitting that they are both the same party and that businesses don't care what party a politician is from when considering bribes, but rather just how much that candidate is beholden to themJul 04 08:33
DaemonFCthe electoral college is sheer lunacyJul 04 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] World Bank Sanctions Oxford University Press for Corrupt Practices Impacting Education Projects in East Africa - http://bit.ly/LwKwuP shameJul 04 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I know FB users are trained to be abused and will suffer whatever Da Zuck throws at them, but really, this should make... http://b1t.it/bIbIJul 04 08:34
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DaemonFCwe end up having every presidential election decided by about 4-5 statesJul 04 08:34
DaemonFChttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/2004CampaignAttention_%28edit%29.pngJul 04 08:35
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DaemonFCvisits by a presidential candidate in 2004 on top, spending on bottomJul 04 08:35
DaemonFCnotice how most of the US is not even up for grabs, so nobody even bothers campaigning there because they've alreayd won or lost from the startJul 04 08:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Building a 96-Core ARM Super Powered by the Sun http://ur1.ca/9q14q #server #linuxJul 04 08:36
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DaemonFCNevada is an especially interesting caseJul 04 08:36
DaemonFCover 80% of the land in that state is owned by the federal governmentJul 04 08:37
DaemonFC20% of the population has no health insuranceJul 04 08:37
DaemonFCprostitution is legal and state regulated (but there's no obligation for the employer of the prostitutes to give them health coverageJul 04 08:37
DaemonFC"The bad news is you have AIDS, the really good news is that we can fire you now and put you on public assistance, yay!"Jul 04 08:38
DaemonFCso there's not much in it for the person working as a legally state-licensed prostituteJul 04 08:39
DaemonFCexcept that they have to pay half their income in taxes like everyone elseJul 04 08:39
DaemonFCthey're still risking their health along with all the street walkersJul 04 08:39
DaemonFCcuriously there are no legal state-licensed male prostitutes in Nevada right nowJul 04 08:40
DaemonFCthere was one for a while, and he was interviewed a while backJul 04 08:40
DaemonFCsaid he quit mostly because about 80% of his requests were from menJul 04 08:40
DaemonFCwell, duhJul 04 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinesische Behörden stoppen Bau von Kupferfabrik - http://bit.ly/LOGGQo wow, a hopeful signJul 04 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wine 1.5.8 Improves Bits Of C++ Runtime http://ur1.ca/9q15k #wine #unix #linuxJul 04 08:41
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DaemonFCthere's very little money to be made as a male prostitute unless we're talking about as a live in for some rich old ugly woman or somethingJul 04 08:42
DaemonFCsame goes for pornJul 04 08:42
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DaemonFCthere's market forces at work hereJul 04 08:42
DaemonFCit turns out that there are a lot of men who are interested in having sex with women, so straight porn doesn't pay that wellJul 04 08:42
DaemonFCwho would have ever guessed? :)Jul 04 08:42
DaemonFCthe fewer people that are willing to do a job (or able to), the more it paysJul 04 08:43
DaemonFCwhen you're in a line of work that most people would do for free, don't expect that it will pay muchJul 04 08:44
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768284Jul 04 08:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nautilus To Get Major Makeover In Gnome 3.6 http://www.muktware.com/3821/nautilus-get-major-make-over-gnome-36 #gnome #gnu #linuxJul 04 08:45
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schestowitz"@Bash Vi - their reasonning for removing this split-pane is that the window manager offers similar feature (open two nautilus , side by side). I do not use this but I believe this will be quite controversial. But not as much as "halt" button"Jul 04 08:45
DaemonFCMinceR: Whenever a sex shop opens up in Indiana, some Christian protest group starts standing outside of itJul 04 08:45
DaemonFCtaking pictures of people and their license plates for "public shaming"Jul 04 08:45
DaemonFClike it's something to be ashamed ofJul 04 08:45
DaemonFCI gave them the finger a couple of timesJul 04 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Quite iconic, I guess. On independence day the EU parliament votes on ACTA.Jul 04 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wall Street banks angling for Dodd-Frank loophole http://ur1.ca/9q15x #us #bankingJul 04 08:46
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DaemonFCschestowitz: if I ever find out one of them has posted my pictures on their website I'm going to sue them for invasion of privacy, harassment, and stalkingJul 04 08:46
DaemonFCyou never know how a jury will end up ruling on something like thatJul 04 08:47
DaemonFCyou could end up with a group that sympathizes with you because they wouldn't want someone doing something similar to them laterJul 04 08:47
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm on call for jury duty starting next monthJul 04 08:48
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 08:48
DaemonFCI've been on call for it a couple of times now and never got calledJul 04 08:48
schestowitz"With Windows 8 Microsoft has re-engineered BSOD for the era of Twitter and texting - unhappy smilies and chirpy one-liners."Jul 04 08:50
schestowitzInnovation Jul 04 08:50
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/02/microsoft_research_pc_hardware_crashes/Jul 04 08:50
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schestowitzGo buy Vista8, the BSODs are nicerJul 04 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: BTW, there's a useful feed of all the tweets from MEPs on the subject of ACTA here - http://bit.ly/LXRIoxJul 04 08:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TV Analyst: Kids Love Netflix, And Disney Should Break Them Of That Nasty Habit - http://bit.ly/NkByBv more </facepalm> momentsJul 04 08:51
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Speaking of mentally retarded crash screens....Jul 04 08:52
DaemonFCGNOME 3Jul 04 08:52
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 08:52
DaemonFCGross oversimplification that infantilizes the population considered harmful..... Jul 04 08:53
DaemonFCnot that I'm advocating confusing crash screens that most people wouldn't understand...but they should give the user some helpful suggestions about how to fix the problem or report it upstreamJul 04 08:54
DaemonFCnot a frowny face with "Your computer has had a problem!"Jul 04 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #ACTA vote - http://bit.ly/NwPTsq who's doing what, when (12.30 local time seems the crucial moment)Jul 04 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zorin OS 6 – One small step for Windows converts http://ur1.ca/9q17z #ZorinOS #gnu #linuxJul 04 09:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dru Lavigne talks about FreeBSD | Interview http://ur1.ca/9q18q #bsd #freebsdJul 04 09:01
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iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/258755/verizon_playing_dangerous_game_in_net_neutrality_battle.htmlJul 04 09:03
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MinceR091040 < DaemonFC> the right response would be "Haha! Enjoy the broken leg you fucking idiot!"Jul 04 09:08
MinceRno, it would be telling them how much they'll need to pay to have it fixedJul 04 09:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] A few words on yesterday's ECJ ruling in UsedSoft vs Oracle http://ur1.ca/9q19cJul 04 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Lessons from #EP #ACTA debate: Listening to your voters = populist. Listening to corporate lobbies = responsible. http://ur1.ca/9q1atJul 04 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] WTF !?!?  Cisco locks customers out of their own routers, only lets them back in if they agree to being spied upon a... http://b1t.it/bIcnJul 04 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Greece now considered the 'land of the Kalashnikov' http://goo.gl/gcpZ7 what a #collapse looks like!Jul 04 09:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Dru Lavigne talks about FreeBSD | Interview http://ur1.ca/9q18q #bsd #freebsdJul 04 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody The #ACTA vote - http://bit.ly/NwPTsq who's doing what, when (12.30 local time seems the crucial moment)Jul 04 09:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz 30 Linux Kernel Developers in 30 Weeks: Jean Delvare http://ur1.ca/9q11f #linux #kernelJul 04 09:12
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DaemonFChttp://io9.com/5923302/fungal-infection-could-wipe-out-some-species-of-bats-completely :(Jul 04 09:14
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DaemonFCI like batsJul 04 09:14
DaemonFCthey are no threat to humans and they eat tons of mosquitoes, which are a threat to humansJul 04 09:15
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DaemonFCif they really wanted to get malaria under control in African countries, they would attempt to introduce bats thereJul 04 09:15
DaemonFCjust one bat can eat well over a pound of mosquitoes in one nightJul 04 09:16
DaemonFCbats are the cheapest form of mosquito control that you can haveJul 04 09:16
DaemonFCwe should encourage higher bat populations if we want mosquito problems under controlJul 04 09:16
DaemonFCbut instead of doing that, cities go around "fogging" for mosquitoes with poisonous chemicalsJul 04 09:17
MinceRbats could have other ecological effectsJul 04 09:17
MinceRthen again, so do insecticidesJul 04 09:17
DaemonFCI like the bats better than I like MonsantoJul 04 09:18
DaemonFCbats are coolJul 04 09:18
DaemonFCMonsanto is evilJul 04 09:18
DaemonFCI never much liked the idea of spraying myself with deet to keep mosquitoes awayJul 04 09:19
DaemonFCso before they had those clip on mosquito repellents, I ended up spraying my clothes instead, which seemed to workJul 04 09:20
DaemonFCof course some of that crap would obviously still come into contact with my skinJul 04 09:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Microsoft in the dock over French tax fraud claims - http://bit.ly/M5v7B8 expect to see more of this around EUJul 04 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] What a wonderfull day 4 Geeks! CERN has found the Higgs-Boson and my ISP #Ziggo is experimenting with a #FON alike service /me happy <3Jul 04 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am getting confusing infos ourt of EU-parliament on ACTA and the unitary patent vote. Let's all hope for the best!Jul 04 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kim Dotcom says Megaupload shutdown was Joe Biden's idea - http://bit.ly/LwTLeD what a genius that man is (Biden, that is...)Jul 04 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The official birth of the Pirate Party of #Russia - http://bit.ly/P6W2Sh interesting background to its formationJul 04 09:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 51-pound tumor removed from woman - http://bit.ly/MIyDpt what's obscene here is that the woman *waited* because she had no health insuranceJul 04 09:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Statement of Civil Society Groups on US #TPP Copyright Proposal - http://bit.ly/MVZRGU "may restrict copyright exceptions like fair use"Jul 04 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #nuffsaid. The flow chart shows the codecision procedure, BTW. http://ur1.ca/9q1je... http://b1t.it/bIc5Jul 04 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Morton Feldman: Complete Chronological Catalogue on Spotify - http://bit.ly/P6XHqR interesting stuff; can be challenging...Jul 04 09:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Cyber crime can easily be prevented, says UK Cabinet Office - http://bit.ly/Lm4I7a not so scary after all...Jul 04 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Louis C.K. sees ticket scalping drop over 96% by switching to selling tickets himself - http://tnw.co/M5wAXX this man is the futureJul 04 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The EPP (european people party, which is newspeak for industry-loving apparatchiks) will try to postpone the ACTA vote... http://b1t.it/bIc7Jul 04 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "The #arts need big money. The audience wants good ethics. Where do we go from here?" - http://bit.ly/R9JojV #sponsorship #london2012Jul 04 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Plenary vote on unitary patent postponed - http://bit.ly/MTkZPq that's good; now let's get it sorted #swpatsJul 04 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I'm giving Debian Testing another shot today. Last time KDE was extremely unstable. But I'm not a quitter you know.Jul 04 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Via @dadvidmartinmep: "Looks like two votes on #ACTA. EPP will propose delay in vote at 12.30 when they loose for/rej... http://b1t.it/bIdfJul 04 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I've had it with Ubuntu, Canonical is clearly getting Free Software hostile these days. Curently using Mint "Maya" /w KDE on top of it.Jul 04 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Evidence of a US judicial vendetta against WikiLeaks activists mounts http://goo.gl/BCs3oJul 04 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to Pinguin radio. http://ur1.ca/9q1n2Jul 04 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Backgrounder on the silly games surrounding teh ACTA vote: http://acta.ffii.org/?p=1602 http://ur1.ca/9q18fJul 04 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Richard Dagenais http://ur1.ca/9q1o0Jul 04 10:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am going to boot into Windows to play a game. #boohissJul 04 10:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Richard Dagenais http://ur1.ca/9q1ooJul 04 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @xavez Maar Xavier, gij cynicus ;)Jul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @netlash wat doe je in zo'n beest?Jul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @netlash toevallig een van m'n hobby's. Als extreem lage omzetcijfers toegelaten zijn, zou ik wel eens http://ur1. ...Jul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SamVerschueren fiksen we morgen! Herinner je me er aan?Jul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SamVerschueren hands-on vanaf vrijdag, daar kijk ik vooral naar uit ;)Jul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @stefroelandt I think these are just standard linkedin settings to be honnestJul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @p_vanostaeyen: RT “@TimothyWhalin: Design Tips for a Cleaner User Interface http://t.co/i825uon9 http://ur1.ca ...Jul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @stefroelandt their name at irail.beJul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @sandervdm ik zie geen!Jul 04 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @vansteyvoort: Interactive 'wallpaper' screens are the future of TV - 16 May 2012 - New Scientist http://t.co/Zn ...Jul 04 10:31
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*DaemonFC is listening to Seven Wonders by Fleetwood Mac on Greatest Hits [Amarok]Jul 04 10:34
DaemonFC:PJul 04 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: "I'm the laziest ambitious person I know" http://t.co/bAXetk2zJul 04 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: #iSoc12 The gentse feesten hackathon: http://t.co/Cx2UUgvz #opendata @GhentLivingLab1Jul 04 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW - I am stuck in the toilet since 3 days as the door has a "slide to unlock" thingy. And as I do not want to get sued by Apple ...Jul 04 10:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/03/bill-maher-new-rules-video_n_1645920.htmlJul 04 10:41
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DaemonFCLOLOLOLOLOLJul 04 10:41
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMmnzpTvvMkJul 04 10:42
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfQ2LyeuyqAJul 04 10:46
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768284Jul 04 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nautilus To Get Major Makeover In Gnome 3.6 http://www.muktware.com/3821/nautilus-get-major-make-over-gnome-36 #gnome #gnu #linuxJul 04 10:46
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schestowitz"@Pirate Chef - that's exactly the point. There are many users who really like split pane file browsers for various reasons. With Nautilus having that, I guess it eliminated the need for many of these alternate file browsers..."Jul 04 10:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768554Jul 04 10:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #landscapes #cliffs #depth #poesie found here: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3fafeDxIj1r8hj6go1_500.pngJul 04 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log: Coming in 3.5 (Part 2) - Filesystems and storage http://ur1.ca/9q1tk #linux #kernelJul 04 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fuduntu 2012.3 Screenshots http://ur1.ca/9q1tl #gnu #linuxJul 04 10:47
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schestowitz"That doesn't look safe at all."Jul 04 10:47
schestowitz"Jul 04 10:48
schestowitzThere's Markin fork. But I did not testJul 04 10:48
schestowitzhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/getting-the-most-from-marlin-file-browser-plus-see-whats-newJul 04 10:48
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schestowitz"Jul 04 10:48
*DaemonFC stocked up on water filtersJul 04 10:57
DaemonFCI'm going to have to reverse my previous opinion about water filters being a scam. The last time I actually tried one was about 20 years ago and I was not impressed.Jul 04 10:58
DaemonFCmaybe it's because the water where I lived then wasn't too bad to begin withJul 04 10:58
DaemonFCand the end cost of filtered tap water is incredibly cheap, only about 10 cents a gallonJul 04 10:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Generation Youtube bringt Acta zu Fall - http://bit.ly/LwYOvB Berliner Zeitung meditates on #ACTAJul 04 10:59
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DaemonFCI noticed that it isn't clogging up my coffee maker like the unfiltered water wasJul 04 10:59
DaemonFCso I go through less money in cleaning detergent to unclog the coffee makerJul 04 11:00
DaemonFCoh it was horribleJul 04 11:00
DaemonFCevery two weeks or so the thing would jam up and I'd end up waiting about 10 minutes for a cup of coffeeJul 04 11:01
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/opera-12-released-adds-new-themes-minor-featuresJul 04 11:03
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DaemonFCI don't know about Opera 12....Jul 04 11:03
DaemonFCI actually really liked Opera UniteJul 04 11:03
DaemonFCit could have been better than it was, but it was incredibly easy to useJul 04 11:03
DaemonFCI suspect some copyright troll freaked out that it was easy to use the Opera browser to share files with your friends and that's why it really got yankedJul 04 11:04
DaemonFCnow there is a lesson in thisJul 04 11:05
DaemonFCif Opera was open source, it wouldn't matter if they decided to end Opera Unite because someone else could have just brought it backJul 04 11:06
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DaemonFCbut since it was proprietary the only thing you can do is say "Hey, I was USING that you fucks!"Jul 04 11:07
DaemonFCand then find a way to deal without having itJul 04 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gabe Newell Showing Valve On Linux To Partners http://ur1.ca/9po2r #linux #gamesJul 04 11:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] US VPs in general apparently have a special gift for genius:" http://ur1.ca/9q1wkJul 04 11:07
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DaemonFCVice Presidents tend to be selected because they are politically weakJul 04 11:08
DaemonFCthe last thing an effective administration wants is to have the vice president overshadowing the president himselfJul 04 11:09
DaemonFCof course Dick Cheney didn't exactly follow along, but George W. Bush wasn't really electedJul 04 11:09
DaemonFCso I don't think it mattersJul 04 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Live-Ticker: Das Ende von #ACTA? - http://bit.ly/LOQutL live blogging of vote by @netzpolitikJul 04 11:09
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schestowitzmy reddit karma has just hit 10kJul 04 11:10
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DaemonFCeach time the Electoral College causes an undemocratic outcome, or comes close to it, there's calls for getting rid of itJul 04 11:12
DaemonFCbut they die down quickly and the administration that just got in because of the way it works has no incentive to change the systemJul 04 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Gentoo -Based #CalculateLinux 12 Goes Into Beta http://ur1.ca/9q1y6 #gnu #linuxJul 04 11:12
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DaemonFCmaybe people need to be reminded of why the thing was created in the first placeJul 04 11:13
DaemonFCrich white slave owners wanted their slaves to count for the purpose of electoral vote distributionJul 04 11:13
DaemonFCbut they didn't want their slaves to be able to voteJul 04 11:13
DaemonFCnow something very similar to that is happening againJul 04 11:14
DaemonFCit counts illegal immigrants who can't vote as being residents of the state they are living in for the purpose of electoral vote distributionJul 04 11:14
DaemonFCand once again, the south is benefiting from thisJul 04 11:15
DaemonFCthey're going to be really sorry they gamed this system if 27 million illegal immigrants ever do become US citizens and start votingJul 04 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux blamed for leap second issues http://ur1.ca/9q1z1 #kernelJul 04 11:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP Moving from Unix Itanium to x86 Odyssey on Linux http://ur1.ca/9q1zh #hp #unix #linuxJul 04 11:21
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DaemonFChttp://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/07/sick-subway-employees-went-to-work-during-norovirus-outbreak/Jul 04 11:23
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DaemonFCyeah, it's what happens when nobody gets paid sick daysJul 04 11:23
DaemonFCthey show up at work with the flu and cough all over the food Jul 04 11:23
DaemonFC"Indiana health code requires that food workers diagnosed with foodborne illnesses including Salmonella, E. coli, Shigella, Hepatitis A or Norovirus infections do not come to work. The code - adopted in 2000 and put into practice in 2008 - stipulates that food establishment employees must be familiar with foodborne illness symptoms such as diarrhea, vomiting, jaundice, sore throat and fever. "Jul 04 11:24
DaemonFCand how do you get diagnosed with that when you can't afford to go to the doctor?Jul 04 11:25
DaemonFCand around and round we goJul 04 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mageia: A Linux Distro on the Rise http://ur1.ca/9q204 #GNU #Linux #MageiaJul 04 11:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ECJ Decision: You *Do* Own Software That You Buy - http://bit.ly/MIGtiW big question is: assuming it's adopted, how widely does it apply?Jul 04 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Must bake bread. Dutchies will understand. http://ur1.ca/9q20p... http://b1t.it/bIeJJul 04 11:29
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Must bake bread. Dutchies will understand. .::. Size~: 129.09 KBJul 04 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Enea completes migration to Linux OS http://ur1.ca/9q215 #linux #eneaJul 04 11:31
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DaemonFChttp://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/06/who-benefits-most-from-food-stamps-follow-the-money/Jul 04 11:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Commodore OS brings classic design to #LinuxMint http://ur1.ca/9q21t #gnu #linuxJul 04 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA vote - the first of two - about to take place in European Parliament if rumours about EPP plans prove true...Jul 04 11:37
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DaemonFCI might try MageiaJul 04 11:40
DaemonFCno harm in kicking about a Live CD I guessJul 04 11:41
DaemonFCthe fireworks dealers are not happy that the burn bans are killing their salesJul 04 11:42
DaemonFCdo we really need to be wasting money on fireworks in this economy anyway?Jul 04 11:42
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DaemonFCthere are still people in Indiana without power from that storm last weekJul 04 11:46
DaemonFCthe power company is telling some of them that they may not have service restored until SaturdayJul 04 11:46
DaemonFChttp://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jul2012/2012-07-03-091.htmlJul 04 11:50
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DaemonFCwind power is getting to be politically popularJul 04 11:50
DaemonFCeven to the point where a lot of Republicans are starting to come around to itJul 04 11:50
DaemonFCthis is a very good thingJul 04 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: European Parliament running behind schedule; ACTA now down for 12.44 local timeJul 04 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT ‏@opensussex http://ur1.ca/9q241# << that does work (tried it) #ACTAJul 04 11:51
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DaemonFClarge up front cost, but after that you have what's essentially free electricity with no carbon or other air pollutant emissions Jul 04 11:52
DaemonFCthe only costs are maintenance and maybe land use feesJul 04 11:52
DaemonFCand environmentalists are not happy about wind farmsJul 04 11:53
DaemonFCwhy am I not surprised?Jul 04 11:53
DaemonFCthey won't be happy until everyone is a dirty hippie Jul 04 11:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA now coming upJul 04 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA EPP calling for postponementJul 04 11:54
DaemonFChttps://www.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=us%2F1_0_s_17_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNEo8EjtCDdVvv9uIt0HotgZVh-RaQ&cid=35185798651071&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.registerguard.com%2Fweb%2Fbusiness%2F28335063-41%2Fnetflix-video-service-cable-internet.html.csp&ei=6iD0T8CKO8awiQKDQA&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-2012802424906031694&sid=top-storiesJul 04 11:55
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DaemonFCoopsJul 04 11:55
DaemonFCdamn google and their damned google linksJul 04 11:55
DaemonFChttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48064919/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/Jul 04 11:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Netflix monthly vid streaming tops 1 billion hours - Technology & science - Wireless - msnbc.com .::. Size~: 60.84 KBJul 04 11:57
DaemonFCit's less than the cost of basic cable, of course it's becoming more popularJul 04 11:57
DaemonFCpeople no longer have hundreds of dollars a month to throw at a cable TV billJul 04 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA David Martin - ACTA killed so many times, only exists thanks to EPP life support machineJul 04 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA postponement rejectedJul 04 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] OH YEAH! !ACTA REJECTED IN THE #EUJul 04 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] lots of "goodbye ACTA" posters in chamberJul 04 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @piecritic: RT @Falkvinge: !ACTA IS KILLED 478 TO 39 VOTES!!!Jul 04 11:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Commission to IGNORE EP VOTE and keep !ACTA on life support. !copyfraudJul 04 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA other votes taking placeJul 04 11:59
squarepegCongratulations schestowitz - ACTA has been struck down once again, finally.Jul 04 12:02
squarepegAnd congratulations to everyone else who raised their voice against that awful legislatin.Jul 04 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @laquadrature ACTA : Victoire totale pour les citoyens et la démocratie ! http://lqdn.fr/node/5889Jul 04 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Voting starts at 12:30 CEST in EU parliament. ACTA is #10 on the list. Stay tuned! Independence Day is here ;-)Jul 04 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@jerezim we shall rise a glass to you and @laquadrature this evening. several times.Jul 04 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #ACTA is dead! Great job everyone. Special props to @EDRI_org & @laquadratureJul 04 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA congratulations and thanks to @davidmartinmep and all the MEPs who made ACTA rejection happenJul 04 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @glynmoody #ACTA congratulations and thanks to @davidmartinmep and all the MEPs who made ACTA rejection happenJul 04 12:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA : Victoire totale pour les citoyens et la démocratie ! | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 29.24 KBJul 04 12:09
squarepegThe freedom-stealers failed again.Jul 04 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] VICTORY! #ACTA Suffers Final, Humiliating Defeat In European Parliament - http://bit.ly/N716Qt first analysisJul 04 12:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA rejected by Europe, leaving copyright treaty near dead - http://zd.net/LYf8dc history of the treatyJul 04 12:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] BTW - what happened to the vote on the Unitary Patent? Is it still on?Jul 04 12:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Das Unmögliche möglich machen: EU-Parlament beerdigt ACTA - http://bit.ly/LS4e2z more views on #ACTA rejectionJul 04 12:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das Unmögliche möglich machen: EU-Parlament beerdigt ACTA | Digitale Gesellschaft .::. Size~: 20.19 KBJul 04 12:16
schestowitzsquarepeg: \0/Jul 04 12:20
*schestowitz happyJul 04 12:20
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEzMjMJul 04 12:21
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schestowitzsen itJul 04 12:22
schestowitzseen it, article comingJul 04 12:22
schestowitzI think the photo is bait from themJul 04 12:22
schestowitzno publicity is bad publicityJul 04 12:22
schestowitzbut to be associated with MS in the FOSS world is suicideJul 04 12:23
squarepegxcfe is pretty goodJul 04 12:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] photo of EP after #ACTA rejection - http://bit.ly/MTAHtR there were lots of these after the voteJul 04 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Socialists & Democrats successfully kill #ACTA in the European Parliament - http://bit.ly/KTbY4x justified pride from @davidmartinmep partyJul 04 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @davidmartinmep: #ACTA biggest EVER legislative defeat for Commission in Parliament >>yes, this is important momentJul 04 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] EPP lets their MEPs vote freely. ACTA is dead IMHO. Seems EPP couldn't get support organised and wants to avoid being ... http://b1t.it/bIfpJul 04 12:24
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squarepegAs it turns out though, it isn't necessary to have a title bar, with close, expand and minimize buttons and a window menu.Jul 04 12:25
squarepegthose unimportant features take up a lot of spaceJul 04 12:25
squarepegdwm, stumpwm, herbstluftwm don't use all that stuffJul 04 12:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Das Aus für Acta ist ein Sieg der Demokratie - http://bit.ly/M5GclA good points in Die Zeit about the role of activists in defeating #ACTAJul 04 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ACTA-be-gone buttons are ready in the EU Parliament. Let's hope they press it.Jul 04 12:34
schestowitzhttps://www.unitary-patent.eu/content/plenary-vote-postponedJul 04 12:35
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/gibus/statuses/220456964495376384Jul 04 12:35
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/HaifaaKhalid/statuses/220392534956969985Jul 04 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Rick Falkvinge http://ur1.ca/9q2e6Jul 04 12:39
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schestowitzsquarepeg: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768845Jul 04 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr@bashvi@joindiaspora.com reshared: #ACTA is dead (478 against / 39 for / 165 abs.) ![pic](https://p.twimg.com/Aw9GKftCQAALXf8.jpg)Jul 04 12:39
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schestowitzsquarepeg: just got an invittaion to a lecture a while agoJul 04 12:40
schestowitzthey mass-invite to a talk about "sexual harassment" at workJul 04 12:40
squarepeggood oneJul 04 12:40
schestowitzAnd they send this to guys tooJul 04 12:40
schestowitzLike... WTF?Jul 04 12:40
squarepegwait, lemme seeJul 04 12:40
squarepegI thought they were asking you to lecture themJul 04 12:40
squarepeglemme read thatJul 04 12:40
schestowitzand when I signed a contract, as a male (I assume only male), I need to sign some form re  "sexual harassment" at workJul 04 12:40
schestowitzEven though I've no history as suchJul 04 12:40
schestowitzsee..Jul 04 12:41
schestowitzNot pension formsJul 04 12:41
schestowitzand other stuffJul 04 12:41
schestowitz"sexual harassment" at workJul 04 12:41
schestowitzLike "terrorism"Jul 04 12:41
squarepegit's disgustingJul 04 12:41
schestowitzThe elusive #1 issueJul 04 12:41
schestowitzwomen finding out some guys may like themJul 04 12:41
schestowitzI'd sayJul 04 12:41
schestowitzIt's nothing sexualJul 04 12:41
schestowitzSexual is when there is sexJul 04 12:41
schestowitzif someone like you, take it as a complimentJul 04 12:41
squarepegyeah, just like the page on Debian's wiki, they assume men are all leering, slobbering, lecherous rapists.Jul 04 12:41
schestowitzor IOW, "man up"Jul 04 12:41
schestowitzbeing sensitive about men liking women and litigating around it is litigating against natureJul 04 12:42
schestowitzI may not like it when particula people of certain genders, races etc. approach meJul 04 12:42
schestowitzBut I don't BAN itJul 04 12:42
squarepegwell, it's the best way for entitled feminists to horn in on businessJul 04 12:42
schestowitzsometing that annoys you need not be illegalJul 04 12:42
schestowitzI find places of workship offensiveJul 04 12:42
squarepegit's nothing but unmitigated self-interest, greed, social aggression, fraud, racketeeringJul 04 12:43
schestowitzI don't have them sign forms to ensure they stop offending meJul 04 12:43
schestowitzMeeks wrote a decent blog post about those GNOME policies that are only-gender only, IIRC, just last week or two weeks agoJul 04 12:43
squarepegand there are legions of "mangina" types who will run to their defenseJul 04 12:43
schestowitzFrankly, I am getting a little fed up with itJul 04 12:43
squarepegbut watch outJul 04 12:43
schestowitzIt's like the shoving of WHITE GUILT in the press to us menJul 04 12:43
squarepegthey are worse than you thinkJul 04 12:43
schestowitzTo manipulate us into submissionJul 04 12:43
schestowitzI don't need f*ing invittaiobn to lecture on  "sexual harassment" at work in my inboxJul 04 12:44
squarepegthey will use outright defamation of characterJul 04 12:44
schestowitzNot unless I did something inapprop. of a SEXUAL natureJul 04 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament overwhelmingly rejects #ACTA anti-piracy pact - http://wapo.st/P7FHwG saith The Washington Post (v @StopActaNow)Jul 04 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Lehne talking BS. Vote next.Jul 04 12:44
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squarepegI recommend you just ignore them to the best of your abilities for a whileJul 04 12:44
schestowitzI would not say "mangina"Jul 04 12:45
schestowitzIt's just thatJul 04 12:45
schestowitzI'm all for euqal rightsJul 04 12:45
schestowitzAnd I fully support thatJul 04 12:45
schestowitzBut I don't want to be fed "guilt" for s* I never didJul 04 12:45
schestowitzI mean, seriously..Jul 04 12:45
squarepegwell, these guys are acting like they have a vagina, is all.Jul 04 12:45
squarepegyeah, no kidding.Jul 04 12:45
schestowitzWhy sign contracts that by their existence label me a potential  "sexual harassment" personJul 04 12:45
schestowitzWith the work sexuakJul 04 12:45
schestowitzimplying rapeJul 04 12:45
schestowitzI wondered, and should have asked, do you make women sign those too?Jul 04 12:46
squarepegit's probably not a good idea to be as combative as I've become, since you have a career and all.Jul 04 12:46
schestowitzis it related to your dad?Jul 04 12:47
schestowitzIIRC, it is..Jul 04 12:47
squarepegnoJul 04 12:47
schestowitzAnd I saw some couples where it's manifesting itselfJul 04 12:47
schestowitzWhere women with no job in their life take over all the man's property and wealth and suck him dryJul 04 12:47
schestowitzWhile playing the victim cardJul 04 12:47
squarepegyeahJul 04 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: My young advisers' ideas on removing barriers to growth & jobs: http://t.co/nNSDhmvH http://t.co/z7yiiOBxJul 04 12:47
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squarepegmy parents got caught up in feminism, like many in their generationJul 04 12:48
schestowitzAnother thing isJul 04 12:48
schestowitzWhile working for equal wages for allJul 04 12:48
squarepegbut they're not the worst Jul 04 12:48
schestowitzThey still demand that the man pays for stuf and providesJul 04 12:48
schestowitzAnd IMHOJul 04 12:48
schestowitzThis derails their original goalsJul 04 12:48
schestowitzRepreations for slavery--fineJul 04 12:48
squarepegheck noJul 04 12:48
schestowitzI can accept that people grew in poverty because of their backgroundJul 04 12:48
squarepegeveryone who was a slave owner is dead nowJul 04 12:49
schestowitzThey they get some "positive discrimination"Jul 04 12:49
schestowitzLike scholarship and stuffJul 04 12:49
squarepegthat's not cool eitherJul 04 12:49
schestowitzI think it's good for society as a whole to provide people with fair opportunity,Jul 04 12:49
squarepeglet them earn itJul 04 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] I wholeheartly declare myself an Atheist from now on. Relegion is desturctive :-( fsck you insane religous bigots!Jul 04 12:49
schestowitzThis is where EU-style free higher edu comes into playJul 04 12:49
schestowitztell DaemonFC thenJul 04 12:49
schestowitzHe would agree with youJul 04 12:49
squarepegi tell you what, african american leadership is one of the most aggressively self-interested groups you can find anywhere.Jul 04 12:49
schestowitzI think edu is important to each nationJul 04 12:50
schestowitzand the EU is a good example, where edu is put firstJul 04 12:50
squarepeggimme, gimme, gimme, and ignore our rampant violent crimeJul 04 12:50
schestowitzAnd people focus on edu and career rather on mass-birthingJul 04 12:50
DaemonFCaffirmative action and radical feminism have caused an overcompensationJul 04 12:50
DaemonFCwhich leads to reverse discrimination against white peopleJul 04 12:50
DaemonFCand menJul 04 12:50
squarepegA couple of orthodox jews got beaten up recently in NYC in separate incidents by gangs of feral black youthsJul 04 12:51
schestowitzthat reminds me of my mate MikeJul 04 12:51
DaemonFCthere's nothing wrong with a system of gender or racial equality, we should have thatJul 04 12:51
squarepegthe problem is, black leaders except for very few don't care.Jul 04 12:51
schestowitzAbout how the press covers white violence against black, he says, while ignoring the ratioJul 04 12:51
DaemonFCwhat we should NOT have is a system where there are effectively quotas based on race or genderJul 04 12:51
squarepegabsolutely trueJul 04 12:51
schestowitzLike the likelihood of violence in-between racesJul 04 12:52
squarepegI have to read Daily Mail to find these storiesJul 04 12:52
schestowitzBut frankly, I haven't much sympathy for ultra-religious folks who get a smackJul 04 12:52
squarepegthe UK publishes it in a national paper, and here it's only local news.Jul 04 12:52
DaemonFCif there's a man and a woman who sign up for the same job, it should be about qualifications, not sexual organsJul 04 12:52
schestowitzDaily Mail is MurdochJul 04 12:52
schestowitzHe has his own agenda and proprgandaJul 04 12:52
schestowitzSocial programmingJul 04 12:52
schestowitz!google john major rupert murdochJul 04 12:53
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - John Major tells Leveson: Rupert Murdoch wished me to change ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2012/jun/12/john-major-leveson-inquiry-murdoch-videoJul 04 12:53
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Rupert Murdoch pressured me over Europe, says John Major ... | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/12/rupert-murdoch-john-majorJul 04 12:53
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Former U.K. Prime Minister John Major Says Rupert Murdoch ... | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303768104577462330554059346.htmlJul 04 12:53
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - John Major Says Rupert Murdoch Threatened Him to Change Policy ... | http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-major-rupert-murdoch-european-policy-336286Jul 04 12:53
squarepegschestowitz: I care.Jul 04 12:53
squarepegreligious conservatives haven't changed. Everyone else has. Jul 04 12:53
DaemonFCif a man and a woman divorce, they should get equal custody of kidsJul 04 12:53
DaemonFCequal share of property obtained during the marriageJul 04 12:53
schestowitztoday I watched about 7 hours of video, mostly abou LA gangsJul 04 12:53
schestowitzLike MS 13 and BloodJul 04 12:53
schestowitzQuite disgustingJul 04 12:53
DaemonFCequal responsibility for bills that accumulated during the marriageJul 04 12:53
schestowitzBut that's a separate issueJul 04 12:53
DaemonFCnobody should be paying alimony to a former spouse that is capable of workingJul 04 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] EPP quest for postponement: DEFEATED.Jul 04 12:54
squarepegschestowitz: former President of Israel Moshe Katsav was toppled in a coup by Feminists.Jul 04 12:54
DaemonFCthe whole reasoning for alimony is just stupidJul 04 12:54
schestowitzLOL https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768892Jul 04 12:54
TechrightsBot-tr@anonymiss@despora.de: ![matrix](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293772_472094429485457_914020262_n.jpg) #matrix #usa #politics #democracy #failJul 04 12:55
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squarepeghe's a political prisoner, serving a 7 year sentence. taken out of office by a rape lie.Jul 04 12:55
DaemonFCit assumes that the woman getting it (95% of the recipients are women!) deserves the quality of life they had during the marriage, without regard to what they contributed to the marriageJul 04 12:55
MinceRschestowitz: niceJul 04 12:55
squarepeglying about rape is the best card the Feminists have up their sleeveJul 04 12:56
DaemonFCyeahJul 04 12:56
schestowitzAssange was taken down by itJul 04 12:56
squarepegit's incessant Jul 04 12:56
squarepegyepJul 04 12:56
DaemonFCbecause rape is a felony and lying to the police is a petty misdemeanor Jul 04 12:56
squarepegmosh katsav as wellJul 04 12:56
squarepegyepJul 04 12:56
schestowitz!google ellison lie woman harassment jailJul 04 12:56
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Joy Ellison | The Electronic Intifada | http://electronicintifada.net/people/joy-ellisonJul 04 12:56
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Panetta, Gates, Rumsfeld Face New Suit Over U.S. Military Rape ... | http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/06/panetta-gates-rumsfeld-face-new-suit-over-u-s-military-rape-epidemic.htmlJul 04 12:56
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Freakonomics » A Hidden Side of Domestic Violence | http://www.freakonomics.com/2012/02/27/a-hidden-side-of-domestic-violence/Jul 04 12:56
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Andy Fastow Gives Speech About Enron | The Enron Blog | http://caraellison.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/andy-fastow-gives-speech-about-enron/Jul 04 12:56
schestowitzSome woman was sent to jail after she made up harassment lies about Larry EllisonJul 04 12:57
DaemonFCfiling a false police report in Indiana is a class B misdemeanor Jul 04 12:57
schestowitz!google hurd julia fisherJul 04 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Julia Fisher | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/julia.fisher.5667Jul 04 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Julia Hurd | Facebook | http://www.facebook.com/julia.hurd.9Jul 04 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - EnglishLass - Person Page 28 | http://www.englishlass.com/p28.htmJul 04 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Former Hewlett-Packard boss fights to keep Jodie Fisher letter private | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/22/mark-hurd-fights-to-keep-sex-harassment-letter-privateJul 04 12:57
DaemonFCmaximum sentence of 180 days in jailJul 04 12:57
squarepegSeriously though, you never hear about Moshe KatsavJul 04 12:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768831Jul 04 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #conservative #libertarian #USA #statusquo #election #2012Jul 04 12:57
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schestowitz"I didn't know the United States people are masochists."Jul 04 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Great news » ACTA rejected by European Union vote from Engadget by Mat Smith http://is.gd/kNNKCw http://b1t.it/bIgWJul 04 12:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Facebook moves fast, breaks something - SFGate http://goo.gl/7XvDl #facebrokeJul 04 12:57
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DaemonFCif a man is convicted of rape, he's looking at 20 years in prisonJul 04 12:58
schestowitzsquarepeg: it's a yawnerJul 04 12:58
DaemonFCif a woman lies to the police about being raped, the most she can do is 180 days in jailJul 04 12:58
schestowitzexcept for those who use sex for politicsJul 04 12:58
schestowitzLike Bill Clinton and othersJul 04 12:58
schestowitzSex can change politics, impeachmentJul 04 12:58
squarepegdon't forget about Dominique Strauss KhanJul 04 12:58
schestowitzIt clogs up newspaper, tooJul 04 12:58
schestowitz*newspapersJul 04 12:58
schestowitzThe problem is being over-sensitiveJul 04 12:58
squarepegKobe Bryant, Ben RoethlisbergerJul 04 12:58
schestowitzAlso over allegation of violenceJul 04 12:58
DaemonFCyou'd think the president of the United States could do better than that fat psychopathic bitchJul 04 12:58
DaemonFCbut apparently notyJul 04 12:59
DaemonFC*notJul 04 12:59
squarepegI call it the Rape Lie Racketeering IndustryJul 04 12:59
schestowitzSome women call demeaning talk "verbal violence" etc.Jul 04 12:59
schestowitzPlaying victim based not on physical things but mental agony and fusing that with groups about TRULY physically abused womenJul 04 12:59
squarepegyeah, and in Quebec the fags are getting in on the racket, the politicized fags are the new StasiJul 04 12:59
schestowitznaaJul 04 12:59
schestowitzDaemonFC would be offendedJul 04 12:59
schestowitz!google assange rape lieJul 04 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Wikileaks' Julian Assange isn't is now accused of rape – updated ... | http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/12/02/no-wikileakss-julian-assange-isnt-accused-of-rape/Jul 04 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - WikiLeaks rape support: Assange's Nazi Accuser Lies - Banned by ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DuDEm4UP6t1MJul 04 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - The rush to smear Assange's rape accuser - Salon.com | http://www.salon.com/2010/12/07/julian_assange_rape_accuser_smeared/Jul 04 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - False Rape Society: One of Julian Assange's sex offense accusers ... | http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/2010/12/one-of-julian-assanges-sex-offense.htmlJul 04 13:00
squarepegThey make a database of people accused of "homophobic acts" which happen to include, politically incorrect language as an "act".Jul 04 13:00
schestowitzheheJul 04 13:00
schestowitz http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/Jul 04 13:00
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schestowitzsee [4]Jul 04 13:00
schestowitzNice addressJul 04 13:00
squarepegThey're keeping records on everyone like the stasiJul 04 13:00
squarepegAnd they announced this with police brass.Jul 04 13:00
schestowitzI heard here in Manc about a girl who lost her b/f and as revenge she went to the police and accused him of "rape"Jul 04 13:00
schestowitzAnd these days the police is pressured to take the woman's side VERY seriouslyJul 04 13:01
squarepegNowadays, I'll call em "homofagsexuals" just to be annoying, because they're so politically belligerent, I'm really sick of their claptrap.Jul 04 13:01
schestowitzscientology?Jul 04 13:01
squarepegSeriously, they are among the most shrill on the victimology chorus.Jul 04 13:01
schestowitzHeheJul 04 13:01
schestowitz!google ricky the opposite of a famous ScientologistJul 04 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Golden Globes 2011: Ricky Gervais makes gay jibe about 'famous ... | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1347874/Golden-Globes-2011-Ricky-Gervais-makes-gay-jibe-famous-Scientologist-actors.htmlJul 04 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Ricky Gervais Makes Gay Scientologist Joke At Golden Globes ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/16/ricky-gervais-makes-gay-s_n_809786.htmlJul 04 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Golden Globes Host Ricky Gervais Makes 'Gay' Joke About 'Famous ... | http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/golden-globes-host-ricky-gervais-72335Jul 04 13:02
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Golden Globes Host Stuns Audience With 'Famous Scientologists ... | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/golden-globe-host-stuns-audience-with-famous-scientologists-gay-joke/Jul 04 13:02
squarepegIf they act like normal people, not always trying to draw attention to themselves, i'll categorize them as 'gay' instead of fags.Jul 04 13:02
schestowitzwhy label them based on that?Jul 04 13:02
DaemonFCthere are some legitimate gripesJul 04 13:03
schestowitzI don't say "that gay person"Jul 04 13:03
squarepegpersonality firstJul 04 13:03
DaemonFClike not having equal rights and all that :)Jul 04 13:03
schestowitzLike the ones I know in the health clubJul 04 13:03
DaemonFCand being legally persecuted by backwards hicksJul 04 13:03
schestowitzThey have other more important characteristics, like "bald", "tall", "old"...Jul 04 13:03
squarepegIf they lead with personality and they are a good person, I treat them personally.Jul 04 13:03
DaemonFCbut what do I know? :)Jul 04 13:03
MinceRany characteristic can be used for labeling :>Jul 04 13:03
schestowitzThose who define their life by activism dedicated to gay causes might as well earn that labelJul 04 13:03
squarepegBut if they go around waving a rainbow flag, accusing everyone of homophobia, and spitting at cops, I say they're a degenerate fag.Jul 04 13:03
schestowitzMinceR: but what's more prominent and distinct?Jul 04 13:04
MinceRdepends on the contextJul 04 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] ~;-) My idea for opening is to tap out open in Morse on an on screen telegraph key. I should be able to patent that right?Jul 04 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Dru Lavigne Talks About !FreeBSD | Interview http://bit.ly/RaS5ud http://b1t.it/bIgXJul 04 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ACTA IS DEAD!Jul 04 13:04
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squarepegAll I'm saying is they need to stop pushing everyone around. Jul 04 13:04
schestowitzsquarepeg: maybe just sociopathsJul 04 13:04
squarepegAnd lets be honest, their biggest leverage is blackmail - we'll call you a fag, we'll try to make you look like a fag, etc.Jul 04 13:05
schestowitzAnd maybe if there were straight they'd be carrying Nazi flags and spit at cops for other reasons, maybe the root cause is not sexualityJul 04 13:05
schestowitzcan be vanity, wanting to get attention, xenopobiaJul 04 13:05
schestowitz*phJul 04 13:05
DaemonFCat least we're not out in white robes burning crosses in peoples front lawnsJul 04 13:05
schestowitzrightJul 04 13:05
squarepegDaemonFC: not you.Jul 04 13:05
squarepegDon't say we because I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about gays in general.Jul 04 13:06
squarepegI'm talking about political angstivists who are always putting their gay foot forward.Jul 04 13:06
schestowitzhow about demagogues who are always in a fight over it?Jul 04 13:06
DaemonFCwhat's going on right now is an injustice Jul 04 13:06
squarepegI'm gay, and that makes me special! nEAAAHH!!Jul 04 13:06
DaemonFCasking for the same rights other people have is not asking for special rightsJul 04 13:06
DaemonFCI'm not asking that the law treat me any better than anyone elseJul 04 13:07
DaemonFCor that I be given special consideration for a job just due to thatJul 04 13:07
squarepegCivil unions are enough.Jul 04 13:07
schestowitzthe question is, in the US, are there still differences?Jul 04 13:07
squarepegIf I were a fag, I would not be an incessant complainer. Jul 04 13:07
schestowitzIn the UK, everywhere AFAIK, homosexual couples can marry, speak about this openly, etc.Jul 04 13:08
DaemonFCthere's several hundred legal rights that go along with marriage that are being denied to gay peopleJul 04 13:08
DaemonFCmostly due to ignorant religious bigotryJul 04 13:08
iophkhttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/tech-news/mozillas-rival-mobile-operating-system-gets-telecom-backing/article4384872/Jul 04 13:08
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schestowitzKissing in public is frowned upon even for heterosexualsJul 04 13:08
squarepegDaemonFC: Suppose I want to marry a child bride? Are you tolerant or are you bigoted against my marriage rights? Jul 04 13:08
DaemonFCyeah, but nobody threatens to kill YOU over itJul 04 13:08
schestowitziophk: it won't flyJul 04 13:08
DaemonFCthere's a little bit of a difference thereJul 04 13:08
squarepegDaemonFC: the media promotes that idea more than anyone else.Jul 04 13:09
DaemonFCsquarepeg: I'm talking about adults making decisions for their own livesJul 04 13:09
DaemonFCnot coercion or pedophiliaJul 04 13:09
DaemonFCyou're baiting me into that by creating a straw manJul 04 13:09
squarepegI don't use that gender-neutral language.Jul 04 13:09
squarepegA man marrying a child bride is not necessarily any kind of pervert at all.Jul 04 13:10
DaemonFCthere's this insane/stupid thing that people bring up like "Next you'll want to marry an underage dog!"Jul 04 13:10
DaemonFC"and then have a three way with my child!"Jul 04 13:10
DaemonFC"NOT IN MY BACK YARD!"Jul 04 13:10
DaemonFCwhere do they even come up with stupid shit like that?Jul 04 13:11
squarepegA girl will be a woman some day. Jul 04 13:11
squarepegMohammad married Aisha as a child bride. They had a family. Everyone on the Arabian Peninsula praised them. Jul 04 13:11
DaemonFCand Joseph Smith was a prophetJul 04 13:11
DaemonFCdumb dumb dumb dumb dumbJul 04 13:12
squarepegThe Byzantine Empire also had marriages to child brides. Jul 04 13:12
squarepegIt's really not such a bad idea at all. Jul 04 13:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768284Jul 04 13:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nautilus To Get Major Makeover In Gnome 3.6 http://www.muktware.com/3821/nautilus-get-major-make-over-gnome-36 #gnome #gnu #linuxJul 04 13:12
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schestowitz"For those who want another gtk file manager, I recommend SpaceFM. It has split panes, changeable interface and does not require bloaty libraries."Jul 04 13:12
squarepegDaemonFC: he who inspires people has many followers.Jul 04 13:12
DaemonFCI don't have any respect for cults started by a philandering con artistJul 04 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Blizzard just keep walking all over their paying users. This time it bands Linux users for using Wine and gives (...) ... http://b1t.it/bIg3Jul 04 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Blizzard just keep walking all over their paying users. This time it bands !Linux users for using Wine and giv (...) ... http://b1t.it/bIg4Jul 04 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: My young advisers' ideas on removing barriers to growth & jobs: http://t.co/nNSDhmvH http://t.co/z7yiiOBxJul 04 13:12
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squarepegDaemonFC: go to Salt Lake City Utah and tell them you have no respect.Jul 04 13:13
squarepegEven L Ron Hubbard has merit. Jul 04 13:13
DaemonFCwell religion and science fiction are both similarJul 04 13:13
DaemonFCbut Star Trek fans don't murder each other in Kirk v. PicardJul 04 13:14
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ACTA rejected with an overwhelming  478:39 - this is HUGE!Jul 04 13:14
squarepegAtheism has merit, except for the part where the secularists embrace so-called "progress" and trash every tradition and cultural institution.Jul 04 13:15
DaemonFCsaying that gay people are a liberal voting block because they're a special interest group is demeaningJul 04 13:16
squarepegSecular progressives are the most dangerous and fastest growing movement of bigotry in the world. Jul 04 13:16
DaemonFCequal rights might have something to do with itJul 04 13:16
DaemonFCbut so does every other issue a voter deals withJul 04 13:16
squarepegthe phrase "equal rights" makes me want to pukeJul 04 13:16
MinceRwhat merit does LRH have?Jul 04 13:16
squarepegmostly because of how Feminists have abused it.Jul 04 13:16
MinceRalso, questioning traditions and cultural institutions and opting out of them is not the same as trashing themJul 04 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yesterday I started using the tablet as a VP8-enabled on-demand TV screen, like on a plane. Complemented by 3 PC screens.Jul 04 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kim Dotcom: Joe Biden Ordered the Megaupload Shutdown http://ur1.ca/9q2ko don't vote; protest, educate, change on one's ownJul 04 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] this is not just pic of the day, but pic of the year: http://bit.ly/RaXUrE (v @Falkvinge @jwildeboer) #ACTAJul 04 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: The Best of #FreeBSD Basics (9780979034220): Dru Lavigne, Greg Lehey, Jeremy C. Reed: #Books http://goo.gl/VNz6gJul 04 13:17
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squarepegI'm tired of people denigrating Orthdox Jews as "Ultra-Orthodox Jews"Jul 04 13:18
squarepegThey're not "ultra". Jul 04 13:18
squarepegProgressives have changed. That's what progressives do. The Orthodox Jews haven't changed.Jul 04 13:18
DaemonFCXtreme JEWS!Jul 04 13:18
squarepegThe further progressive go away from the norm, the more aggressively they try to tear it down.Jul 04 13:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @vvillenave TOR project uncovers flaw in mass-surveillance appliance http://ur1.ca/9q0m7Jul 04 13:19
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squarepegFor the last 8 years or so, progressive Feminist rhetoric has been used to justify the war in Afghanistan.Jul 04 13:19
squarepegAnd LGBT propaganda too.Jul 04 13:20
squarepegThey are making stuff up. Jul 04 13:20
squarepegThey waged a campaign of lies against Moqtada al-Sadr in Iraq.Jul 04 13:20
schestowitz[13:18] <squarepeg> Progressives have changed. That's what progressives do. The Orthodox Jews haven't changed.Jul 04 13:20
schestowitzSome are racist and dogmaticJul 04 13:20
schestowitzSee the settlers for exampleJul 04 13:20
squarepegschestowitz: I dont' really care. Jul 04 13:21
schestowitzAnd those who are happy to embrace racist segregation-glamorising policesJul 04 13:21
schestowitz*policiesJul 04 13:21
squarepegEveryone is racist. Even those who pretend they aren't.Jul 04 13:21
schestowitzCults that chop off children's genitalia sure do fing it hard to find acceptance in society outside the cultJul 04 13:21
schestowitzand they also have different dietary preferenceJul 04 13:21
squarepegMy only caveat is to say that Israel must have tolerance for inter-religious marriage.Jul 04 13:22
schestowitzThat they use to impose on others by menu manipulationJul 04 13:22
schestowitzSame with the Halal nonseseJul 04 13:22
schestowitzalso tortures animalsJul 04 13:22
squarepegschestowitz: don't be shrill. Jewish circumcision isn't the same as amputation. Jul 04 13:22
schestowitzsquarepeg: yes, racism is innateJul 04 13:22
schestowitzPeople trust people who look and smell and speak like themselvesJul 04 13:22
schestowitzThe media does try to mitigate those instinctsJul 04 13:23
schestowitzSome are offended by this, I think it's important though so as to keep society calm and harmonious, which is not impossible, although it suppresses some instincts Jul 04 13:23
schestowitzsquarepeg: it's a backward and cruel ritualJul 04 13:23
squarepegRacism is generally a dangerous force which must be mitigated and downplayed.Jul 04 13:23
schestowitzBarbarism exists in many religionsJul 04 13:24
squarepegBut stifling it completely always backfires.Jul 04 13:24
schestowitzSome go further than othersJul 04 13:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Now we netizens have our own independence day - July the 4th, where ACTA was rejected by democracy. Jul 04 13:24
schestowitzModernising the cults would not be bad, inhumane practices need to be eradicatedJul 04 13:24
schestowitzsquarepeg: yes, and nationalism is an extension of itJul 04 13:24
squarepegmodernizing some aspects of archaic cultures is goodJul 04 13:25
schestowitzIn Germany, national pride is now frowned uponJul 04 13:25
squarepegbut making modern society more archaic can be good as wellJul 04 13:25
schestowitzIn the UK, waving the English flag can also be perceived as "nationalism"Jul 04 13:25
schestowitzGermans are indoctrinated into believing that waving their flag leads to many innocent people dyingJul 04 13:25
squarepegyeah, that's ridiculousJul 04 13:25
schestowitzpeople are shy of prideJul 04 13:26
schestowitzbut it can keep some humble when they don't brag about their DNAJul 04 13:26
schestowitzThe media does not do it eitherJul 04 13:26
schestowitzImagine a show where the traits of "white people" are hailed as superiorJul 04 13:26
schestowitzOr brain sizes are discussedJul 04 13:26
schestowitza taboo subject, for sure.Jul 04 13:26
schestowitzhttps://github.com/richardfontana/GPL.nextJul 04 13:27
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squarepegThe amusing part is that there are plenty of people with a relatively small cranial capacity who are very intelligent.Jul 04 13:27
squarepegBut it's a great way to get people riled up.Jul 04 13:27
squarepegThe most important thing to acheive harmony and brotherhood among mankind is to put women in their place.Jul 04 13:30
squarepegBecause women have a natural proclivity for inciting drama, and winding everyone up with hysteria.Jul 04 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @MarietjeD66 *you may stop sending anti-#ACTA emails now, thank you* >>start sending *thank you* emails, people...Jul 04 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi: First look http://ur1.ca/9q2m8 #linuxJul 04 13:31
squarepegWomen are naturally anxious, and they project their anxieties.Jul 04 13:31
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schestowitzsquarepeg: innately?Jul 04 13:31
schestowitzthey are maternalJul 04 13:31
schestowitzless testosteroneJul 04 13:31
schestowitzLess vengefulJul 04 13:31
squarepegWell, they tend to be afraid of the dark.Jul 04 13:31
schestowitzThere's no alpha femaleJul 04 13:31
schestowitzThere's queen bees and stuffJul 04 13:31
schestowitza lot of wars are over ego and drive to impress fellow groups in the speciesJul 04 13:32
squarepegevil testosterone theory is scientific materialism, it's nonsense used to justify bigotry against men.Jul 04 13:32
schestowitzless ingrained in females, I think, biologicallyJul 04 13:32
DaemonFChttp://techcrunch.com/2012/07/03/google-shutdowns-continue-igoogle-google-video-google-mini-others-are-killed/Jul 04 13:32
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squarepegMaybe I'm going a bit too far about female anxiety and hysteria. Maybe it's just the Feminists.Jul 04 13:32
squarepegBut evil testosterone theory is outright bigotryJul 04 13:33
squarepegTestosterone is not bad at all. It doesn't cloud your mind. Jul 04 13:33
schestowitzWhy? Explain./Jul 04 13:33
squarepegThe truth is, you can remain rational and objective with a variety of chemicals in your brain.Jul 04 13:33
squarepegEven mind-bending drugs can be compensated for, with enough study and self-awareness.Jul 04 13:34
squarepegto single out a naturally occuring hormone and say that makes you less humane is justification for anti-male bigotry based in pseudoscience.Jul 04 13:35
schestowitz"Google Compute with 30,472 cores would be about $4,200 per hour."Jul 04 13:35
schestowitzhttp://nextbigfuture.com/2012/07/renting-petaflop-cloud-supercomputing.htmlJul 04 13:35
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squarepegFeminists are guilty, guilty, guilty of bigotry. Jul 04 13:35
schestowitzdepends on the defJul 04 13:36
schestowitzFeminists are a bad work nowJul 04 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] There will be "sons of ACTA". We must stay alert. But today we party! Democracy wins! Jul 04 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jerezim: .@DavidMartinMEP: "This is the biggest defeat *ever* for the European Commission!" !ACTA !copyfraudJul 04 13:36
schestowitzlike activist and communistJul 04 13:36
squarepegmuch worseJul 04 13:36
schestowitzin the past they may have strived for voting rightsJul 04 13:36
squarepegthey didn't deserve themJul 04 13:36
schestowitznow the word is like "Atheist"Jul 04 13:36
squarepegthey shouldn't have been granted the right to voteJul 04 13:36
squarepegatheists are fineJul 04 13:36
schestowitzThe "militant" pretext is assumedJul 04 13:36
squarepegfeminists are awfulJul 04 13:36
squarepegHere's the problemJul 04 13:36
schestowitzmaybe in your mindJul 04 13:37
squarepegmen were conscripted to fight in warJul 04 13:37
schestowitzThere's an imagine associated with this wordJul 04 13:37
squarepegfeminists didn't say that men shouldn't have to be conscripted Jul 04 13:37
squarepegthey demanded female political representation without an end to male-only sacrificeJul 04 13:37
squarepegWhile suffragettes were whining about their right to vote, 125,000 British men died in a single battle of WWIJul 04 13:38
squarepegWhy weren't they agitating for the right of men not to be cannonfodder?Jul 04 13:38
squarepegBecause they're selfish cunts.Jul 04 13:38
squarepegThey got the order of operations wrongJul 04 13:39
squarepegIf men can be allowed to decline recruitment for a war, and not be discriminated against as a coward, women should then be allowed to vote.Jul 04 13:39
squarepegBut as long as men are expected to shoulder the burden of protecting the nation, women shouldn't get to make decisions on war and peace.Jul 04 13:40
squarepegIn America, only men have to sign up for selective service.Jul 04 13:40
squarepegMaybe we could make a compromise and give women 2/3 of a vote. But that would probably be too generous.Jul 04 13:40
squarepegThe fact is, women will vote for men to die in multitudes if they vote but don't serve in front-line combat.Jul 04 13:41
squarepegBecause it serves the female desire to weed out the undesirable males. Jul 04 13:42
squarepegfemale hysteria will compel men to war from both sides of an ideological riftJul 04 13:42
squarepegIn contrast to females, males will never seek to purge the below average women.Jul 04 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google knows that #Windows is nonsense with no demand http://ur1.ca/9q2o7Jul 04 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] John the Ripper now able to crack office files and use GPUs - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/2h1zD #security #flossJul 04 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ACTA rejection by the numbers: 478 REJECT 39 APPROVE 165 ABSTAINJul 04 13:44
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squarepegsorry to go on a long-winded rant there, but it's time for men to stop celebrating women's right to vote, yet not shoulder any responsibility. Jul 04 13:45
schestowitzthere is no equalityJul 04 13:45
schestowitzbecause they are not identicalJul 04 13:46
schestowitzphysically and mentallyJul 04 13:46
schestowitztheir chemicals varyJul 04 13:46
schestowitzand to pretend we can get equality in totality is elusiveJul 04 13:46
schestowitznow there's bargaining over entitlementJul 04 13:46
MinceRthere could be equality of rights and equality of opportunityJul 04 13:46
schestowitzLike welfare, job support, wages, etc.Jul 04 13:46
MinceRbut it needs to be real equalityJul 04 13:46
schestowitzrightJul 04 13:46
iophkschestowitz: what did you see at the major barriers to Mozilla's "OS" even if it does have some backing?Jul 04 13:46
schestowitzI want to see men getting child support if the mother earns moreJul 04 13:47
MinceRi don't want to see anyone getting child supportJul 04 13:47
schestowitziophk: not enough weight in the OEM spaceJul 04 13:47
MinceRthe planet is overpopulated, nobody needs to make children they can't affordJul 04 13:47
schestowitzGoogle has many douchebags working from the NY office,m imposing lockinwareJul 04 13:47
squarepegschestowitz: Angry Harry says it best "Equality is not achievable ever". http://angryharry.comJul 04 13:47
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schestowitzAnd in some schools my company is now considering this Google Apps trapJul 04 13:47
schestowitzbetter than MSO,  but not optimal to make pupils customers of some US companyJul 04 13:48
MinceRsquarepeg: what you've brought up could be made equalJul 04 13:48
iophkSo much comes down to OEM control.  Jul 04 13:48
MinceRfor example, by not conscripting anyoneJul 04 13:48
squarepegMinceR: tell that to the feministsJul 04 13:48
squarepegit's not on their agendaJul 04 13:48
MinceRi'm not sure if the feminists would listenJul 04 13:48
MinceRif you mean the female chauvinists by thatJul 04 13:49
squarepegthey want western men to go kick Muslim ass so that their women can subjugate their men too.Jul 04 13:49
squarepegmen's freedom must be abolishedJul 04 13:49
MinceRi wouldn't call the muslim state of matters "men's freedom"Jul 04 13:49
schestowitzsquarepeg: do you think it's fair how women are treated, say, in Saudi Arabia?Jul 04 13:49
MinceRthey might treat their women like livestock but the men also suffer from certain forms of oppressionJul 04 13:49
squarepegschestowitz: until men get the boot off our necks in the west, we should not have any care for saudi women's priviliges.Jul 04 13:50
squarepegSuch as the privilege to drive those four wheeled machines which men invented and maintain.Jul 04 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat Polishes Up #Linux Developer Toolkit http://ur1.ca/9q2psJul 04 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Raspberry Pi to cross Atlantic in solar-powered dinghy http://ur1.ca/9q2pt #linuxJul 04 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] yes, seems to be a requirementJul 04 13:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] oh no...rejectedJul 04 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@MiyamaeYukari @jerezim on 12th July we are having a conference on copyright reform after !ACTA in Poland.Jul 04 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How FOSS-loving is #redhat CEO really? http://ur1.ca/9q2qeJul 04 13:52
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schestowitzsquarepeg: if you empower women there, maybe that would reduce radicalismJul 04 13:53
squarepegabsolutely notJul 04 13:53
schestowitzand they can weaken the dogma too, because by definition and principles it suppresses themJul 04 13:53
squarepegThe more privileges you give women, the more they demand. Jul 04 13:53
schestowitzsame for everyoneJul 04 13:53
schestowitznot just womenJul 04 13:53
squarepegWomen are uniquely demanding and dependent.Jul 04 13:53
schestowitzgive a finger, they want the hand, such is life..Jul 04 13:53
squarepegLike I said, men won't decimate the population of women. Jul 04 13:54
squarepegBut women will shake their pompoms until half the men are dead.Jul 04 13:54
squarepegit's biological.Jul 04 13:54
MinceRit would probably reduce or eliminate religious fundamentalismJul 04 13:54
squarepegIt would eliminate your uncle or your brotherJul 04 13:55
MinceRwomen's disempowerment there mostly comes from religion, as far as i know.Jul 04 13:55
squarepegtwo thirds of your ancestors were femaleJul 04 13:55
squarepegone third was maleJul 04 13:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: a cult that modernizes itself is even more dangerousJul 04 13:55
squarepegthe human genome reveals male disposability is a constant throughout historyJul 04 13:56
DaemonFCpart of what turns people away from the barbaric ones is that they are barbaricJul 04 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Almost to the very day, 7 years ago, on the 6th of july 2005, the EU parliament voted down the software patent directi... http://b1t.it/bIh8Jul 04 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Well done #B4RN and @cyberdoyle : voted "Internet hero" at ISPAs 2012 http://t.co/S6AV5sOU via @trefJul 04 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Last Sunday new EU rules brought down cost of mobile #roaming.Check out how it affected 1 family... http://t.co/Ln8YtPhuJul 04 13:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Chrome Browsers in the Pano Logic Cloud, Running #Linux http://ur1.ca/9q2rg #gnuJul 04 13:56
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DaemonFCif you "modernize" that system, they'll just come up with more bullshit laterJul 04 13:56
schestowitz[13:55] <squarepeg> two thirds of your ancestors were femaleJul 04 13:56
schestowitz??Jul 04 13:56
DaemonFCand people will have to suffer through THAT for the next several hundred yearsJul 04 13:56
MinceRyeah, i'm puzzling about that tooJul 04 13:56
squarepegschestowitz: it's the harem effectJul 04 13:56
squarepegthink about it guysJul 04 13:57
schestowitzunless people change sexes...Jul 04 13:57
squarepegone jerk knocking up a lot of womenJul 04 13:57
schestowitzwhich I doubt, it cannot be truly done, you need to change all DNA in the body for thatJul 04 13:57
squarepegand a certain amount of incest among cousinsJul 04 13:57
squarepegno really, I'm right about this. it's scientific fact.Jul 04 13:57
DaemonFCif no children are produced, I don't really think incest itself is a problemJul 04 13:57
DaemonFCIndiana law backs me up on that btwJul 04 13:57
squarepegno, most incest is between cousinsJul 04 13:57
squarepegand it's socially accepted, historicallyJul 04 13:58
schestowitzif that qualifies as incenstJul 04 13:58
DaemonFCyeah, you can marry your third cousin in IndianaJul 04 13:58
schestowitzin some Amazon tribes it's commonplaceJul 04 13:58
DaemonFCcloser than that you have to be over 55 years oldJul 04 13:58
squarepegyeah, and 1st cousins in many old world socitiesJul 04 13:58
schestowitzAnd in some societies and religions tooJul 04 13:58
MinceRmy direct ancestors are 50% male, 50% femaleJul 04 13:58
schestowitzEinstein too married his cousinJul 04 13:58
DaemonFCor prove that no children can come from the marriageJul 04 13:58
squarepegso you can have fewer male ancestors Jul 04 13:58
squarepegin fact, half as many male ancestorsJul 04 13:58
MinceRoh, right, incest changes thingsJul 04 13:58
DaemonFCthen you can marry your first cousinJul 04 13:58
*MinceR is no longer puzzledJul 04 13:58
DaemonFCMinceR: birth defectsJul 04 13:58
DaemonFCthat's about the only legitimate reason to be opposed to incestJul 04 13:59
MinceR(i don't know the data behind this, but it's at least mathematically possible...)Jul 04 13:59
DaemonFCif they can prove they won't have kids, fineJul 04 13:59
schestowitzyeahJul 04 13:59
DaemonFClet them do whatever they wantJul 04 13:59
schestowitzmaybe more common many generations agoJul 04 13:59
schestowitzhow common is it in other species?Jul 04 13:59
squarepegthe point is, the human genome reveals that women are twice as likely as men to successfully reproduce.Jul 04 13:59
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squarepegbecause women have the uterous, which makes them valuable, whereas men have to accomplish something.Jul 04 14:00
squarepegif half the men die, a skeleton crew of men can father a full-sized 2nd generationJul 04 14:00
squarepegif half he women die, your 2nd generation is smallJul 04 14:00
squarepegso men are disposable to the tribe, and women are preciousJul 04 14:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bring Google Docs to the #Ubuntu Desktop with #GWOffice http://goo.gl/uxf7TJul 04 14:01
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squarepegand this is how it has always been. Jul 04 14:01
DaemonFCyeah, but science will solve that problemJul 04 14:01
DaemonFCto where you won't need a man and a womanJul 04 14:01
squarepegthe only good think about the fraudulent feminist grievance narrative of history is that it calls our attention to the real problemJul 04 14:01
DaemonFCso much of our lives are artificial that reproduction habit shouldn't necessarily be differentJul 04 14:01
squarepegthe real problem is that men are the victims of history and women are the victorsJul 04 14:02
DaemonFCsquarepeg: That men are expendable and women get treated like queens by the legal system?Jul 04 14:02
DaemonFCthat is a problemJul 04 14:02
squarepegyepJul 04 14:02
DaemonFCI don't care about women  too muchJul 04 14:03
squarepegand men get taxed to pay for single moms and dependentsJul 04 14:03
DaemonFCI'm not sexually attracted to themJul 04 14:03
DaemonFCI don't want kidsJul 04 14:03
squarepegsingle men have to pay Jul 04 14:03
DaemonFCtaking yourself out of the equation is beneficial to youJul 04 14:03
DaemonFCyou won't spread your genes, but....who cares?Jul 04 14:03
DaemonFCafter you die, it won't be your problemJul 04 14:03
squarepegDaemonFC: even so, your are taxed for other men's children in the Matriarchal society.Jul 04 14:04
squarepegAt the very least, you should demand the right to keep the fruits of your own labor.Jul 04 14:04
DaemonFCyeah, but at least they aren't taking half my pay that wasn't taxed for child support and alimonyJul 04 14:04
DaemonFCsome men have that happenJul 04 14:04
DaemonFCa lot of men doJul 04 14:04
DaemonFClots of men live in poverty because of alimony and child supportJul 04 14:04
DaemonFCwhen they otherwise make enough to live comfortably if it wasn't for thatJul 04 14:05
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squarepegEven so, they're garnishing your income for slutty single moms and their low achieving boyfriendsJul 04 14:05
DaemonFCif you have them take 20-30% of your paycheck for child support and threaten to throw you in jail for not paying it....Jul 04 14:05
iophkAt least it's not AcuweatherJul 04 14:05
iophkhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/04/us/as-weather-channel-buys-weather-underground-fans-fear-change.htmlJul 04 14:05
iophkhttp://www.freep.com/article/20120703/BUSINESS06/207030328/Weather-Channel-buys-Weather-Underground-data-company-of-Ann-ArborJul 04 14:05
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DaemonFCthat's like getting taxed by the feds AND the state all over againJul 04 14:06
DaemonFCit's the same percentage of your paycheckJul 04 14:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] To the 39 pro-ACTA and the 165 that abstained: We should talk ;-)Jul 04 14:06
DaemonFCnow you have to live on about a third of what you makeJul 04 14:06
squarepegthat's a big problem, obviouslyJul 04 14:06
squarepegThe root of the problem is that they grant custody of children to the mother by default. It should be the opposite.Jul 04 14:06
DaemonFCand gods help you if you have alimony too!Jul 04 14:06
squarepegThen you could make her work for you. Jul 04 14:07
DaemonFCthere are men out there that make $400 a week and then get to live on about $150 of that because of the tax system, child support, and alimonyJul 04 14:07
squarepegPay for my kids, you lazy wench! Get to work you dead-beat mom!Jul 04 14:07
DaemonFCthat's an exampleJul 04 14:07
DaemonFCeveryone's situation is differentJul 04 14:07
DaemonFCrich people can obviously afford something like that a lot more than the average personJul 04 14:07
DaemonFCrich people think ahead though, they get prenuptial agreements that shields them from most of thatJul 04 14:08
DaemonFCthey still might have to pay child support or alimony but they don't get the woman digging into their estate tooJul 04 14:08
DaemonFCalimony is different than child support though in most statesJul 04 14:09
DaemonFCin most states you can put alimony agreements into the prenuptial agreement contract and it will be enforceable laterJul 04 14:09
DaemonFCchild support can't be put into a civil contract in any state, that I'm aware ofJul 04 14:10
DaemonFCthe judge tells you how much and when and you pay it or go to prisonJul 04 14:10
iophkhttp://techcrunch.com/2012/07/02/nice-move-weather-channel-buys-weather-underground-to-sharpen-focus-on-digital/Jul 04 14:11
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DaemonFCif you're in a state that's real bad about judges deciding to give arbitrary alimony amounts, you definitely want to put that in writing before the marriageJul 04 14:11
iophkI'm not so sure that the change in ownership is a good thing for Weather UndergroundJul 04 14:11
DaemonFCin Indiana, alimony is more limited than in many statesJul 04 14:11
DaemonFCbut some don't have it at allJul 04 14:11
DaemonFCFlorida's can go on indefinitely (until she remarries!Jul 04 14:12
DaemonFCin Indiana, women typically only get alimony payments for about 4-6 months after the divorce, then it stopsJul 04 14:12
DaemonFCand that's if they get it at allJul 04 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe declares independence from Hollywood with #ACTA vote - http://bit.ly/P84yk6 early US perspectiveJul 04 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Tris_Acatrinei: RT @StopActaNow: Omg beautiful!! Look at Mr. @jerezim http://t.co/DQCPjcIo <3 !ACTA #datalove #winrarJul 04 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: fiind out how your MEP voted - http://bit.ly/LxiNtT then you can thank them...or not (v @andrewjburgess)Jul 04 14:12
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DaemonFCit's considered to be a way to transition yourself to dealing without the support of the former spouse, not an entitlementJul 04 14:13
DaemonFCwho would want to live in Florida though? Florida is all kinds of fucked up.Jul 04 14:13
DaemonFCIt's a nice place to vacation for a week or two, but they have some really lousy lawsJul 04 14:14
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 14:14
MinceRyes, the usa has some really lousy laws ;)Jul 04 14:14
squarepegyeahJul 04 14:15
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DaemonFCMinceR: It can be a lot worse if you live in a bad stateJul 04 14:15
squarepegAnd they're making new lousy laws as we speak. Jul 04 14:15
MinceRthen again, i have yet to find any state that doesn't have several really lousy lawsJul 04 14:16
DaemonFCthe worst states to live in are probably Alabama and Mississippi Jul 04 14:16
squarepegObama and Biden are leading the charge against men. Jul 04 14:16
MinceR(and i mean sovereign state there)Jul 04 14:16
DaemonFCMinceR: a US state is a sovereign stateJul 04 14:16
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 14:16
DaemonFCit has dual sovereignty over its territory and citizens which is shared with the federal governmentJul 04 14:17
DaemonFCUS citizens are dual citizens of the federal entity and of the state they live inJul 04 14:17
MinceRstop playing with wordsJul 04 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nokia’s secret Linux team is looking for refuge http://ur1.ca/9q2vg #linux #nokiaJul 04 14:17
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DaemonFCeach state has some residency requirements for purposes such as taxation and tuition Jul 04 14:18
DaemonFCbut none of them can say that a US citizen can't move there and establish themselves as a citizen of that stateJul 04 14:18
DaemonFCMinceR: You can be put on trial twice for the same offense even if the first trial found you not guilty.Jul 04 14:19
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DaemonFCsay the state presses charges against you, you go to court and are found not guiltyJul 04 14:20
DaemonFCthe federal government can give you another trial for the same offenseJul 04 14:20
DaemonFCit has happened Jul 04 14:20
DaemonFCmost people don't think that can happen, but it can because they are "separate sovereigns"Jul 04 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] ACTA IS DEAD (ish) (for now) http://identi.ca/url/72612231 !eff !fsfJul 04 14:21
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MinceRwhat happened to double jeopardy?Jul 04 14:21
DaemonFCMinceR: It doesn't apply because the governments putting you on trial are not the same government in that caseJul 04 14:21
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 14:21
MinceRfunJul 04 14:22
DaemonFCalthough no state can put you on trial twice for the same offense due to the federal constitution, even if they don't have that codified as a state law or in their state constitutionJul 04 14:22
DaemonFCbecause the US constitution has been incorporated against the states since the fourteenth amendment was ratifiedJul 04 14:23
DaemonFCB-)Jul 04 14:23
DaemonFCbut it took well over 150 years for the entire set of "rights" in the US constitution to be incorporated against the statesJul 04 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] With 682 MEPs ACTA was supported by 5.7%, rejected by 70% of MEPs.Jul 04 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] EC's de Gucht flogs dead horse, still wants to take #ACTA to EU Court of Justice http://ur1.ca/9q2xyJul 04 14:24
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DaemonFCbecause you have no standing to challenge a state law until the state uses that law against youJul 04 14:24
squarepegwomenshealth.gov : "One in five women will be sexually assaulted while in college"Jul 04 14:24
squarepegGuess what the real number is according to police reportsJul 04 14:25
DaemonFCMinceR: The fourth amendment was not incorporated against the states until 1961Jul 04 14:25
DaemonFCyou know, the whole right to be free of unreasonable police searches and seizuresJul 04 14:25
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 14:25
squarepegWomen sexually assaulted in college... the real number guys... Jul 04 14:26
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapp_v._OhioJul 04 14:26
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squarepegone in four... or is it... One in one thousand, eight hundred and thirty?Jul 04 14:26
squarepegsorry, I was off by about fourtyJul 04 14:27
DaemonFCMinceR: The federal government that exists today is not very similar to the one that was enacted when the US constitution was originally enactedJul 04 14:27
squarepeg1/1877Jul 04 14:27
squarepegnot 1/4Jul 04 14:27
DaemonFCthrough a string of amendments you have things like unlimited taxation powerJul 04 14:28
DaemonFCincorporation of the US constitution against the statesJul 04 14:28
DaemonFCdirect elections of US SenatorsJul 04 14:28
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DaemonFCor like Carlin said "If the rights came from God, why did we have to amend the fucking thing 27 times?"Jul 04 14:29
abeNd-orgso does that make that 1/1877 any less important? shouldnt the numbers of such crimes (all crimes) be lower?Jul 04 14:29
DaemonFC"Maybe God forgot a few things like.....SLAVERY!!!"Jul 04 14:29
DaemonFC"Just fucking slipped his mind!"Jul 04 14:29
MinceR:>Jul 04 14:30
DaemonFCoriginally the senators from each state were elected by the state legislatures Jul 04 14:30
MinceRno, he's fond of slaveryJul 04 14:30
MinceRit's in the "good" bookJul 04 14:30
DaemonFCbut those legislators *could*  pass a state law that let the people of the state decide who to send to the SenateJul 04 14:31
MinceRat least if you're a jew, you're welcome to own slaves, as long as they're not jewsJul 04 14:31
MinceRbut you see, that book is supposedly the fundament of all moralityJul 04 14:31
DaemonFCthe residents of states with a ballot initiative in their constitutions were more likely to have thatJul 04 14:31
DaemonFCbecause the ballot initiative bypasses the legislature and the governor and allows people to take powers for themselvesJul 04 14:32
DaemonFCor pass their own lawsJul 04 14:32
DaemonFCwell, is that a good thing?Jul 04 14:32
DaemonFClook at what's going on in California and you tell meJul 04 14:32
DaemonFCwhen 51% of the people can get together and take whatever they want, they usually doJul 04 14:33
DaemonFCwhich leaves you with a huge unfunded welfare stateJul 04 14:33
DaemonFCand lots of rights for some peopleJul 04 14:33
DaemonFCand very few for othersJul 04 14:33
MinceRlook at how the constitution was established and you tell meJul 04 14:33
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 14:33
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm in favor of dissolving the US Electoral College Jul 04 14:33
DaemonFCI've written to some of my state representatives asking them to pass the National Popular Vote CompactJul 04 14:34
squarepeghttp://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/opinion/the-radical-middle/27667--one-in-one-thousand-eight-hundred-seventy-sevenJul 04 14:34
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DaemonFCit has been approved by the Indiana House of Representatives but keeps getting killed by the Indiana SenateJul 04 14:34
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DaemonFCwithout the electoral college, the entire practice of dumping 95% of your campaign budget on 4-5 states that will be close one way or the other would endJul 04 14:35
DaemonFCand they would have to pay attention to every voter in every stateJul 04 14:35
MinceRand what about campaign funding reform?Jul 04 14:35
DaemonFCMinceR: dirty money would go a shorter distance if they had to campaign to national interests instead of just keeping a few states happyJul 04 14:36
squarepegChad Herman wrote that articleJul 04 14:37
MinceR"Today, on July 4, Europe celebrates a day of independence from American special interests."Jul 04 14:37
MinceR:)Jul 04 14:37
DaemonFCright now that's basically Michigan, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Iowa, North Carolina, and VirginiaJul 04 14:37
DaemonFCand the rest of the country doesn't matterJul 04 14:38
squarepegThe number of women sexually assaulted in college is not one in four, but one in one thousand eight hundred and seventy seven.Jul 04 14:38
squarepegHey, is that not a jarring statistical anomoly?Jul 04 14:38
formic_you're more likely to get autism than get raped?Jul 04 14:38
squarepegThe big story is that the feminists get away with beating men over the head with "one in four" Jul 04 14:39
squarepegThat's why I call it the "Rape Lie Racketeering Industry"Jul 04 14:39
Diablo-D3squarepeg: no one listens negotiates with terroristsJul 04 14:39
Diablo-D3sorry, "terroristas"Jul 04 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The European Parliament Rejects #ACTA: The Impossible Becomes Possible - http://bit.ly/N7bOqr by @mgeist who helped make it happenJul 04 14:39
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squarepeggood call Diablo-D3 Jul 04 14:39
DaemonFCMinceR: Obama will win because Romney would have to convince all of those states to vote for himJul 04 14:40
DaemonFCthe election is a foregone conclusion before it even happens thanks to the Electoral CollegeJul 04 14:40
squarepeg60% of college grads are women now. Jul 04 14:40
MinceRand even if it wasn't, it would be mostly meaningless due to the dominance of the two big parties and them being controlled by the same interestsJul 04 14:40
DaemonFCand even if Romney does take all those states, Obama has several that he might poach in an upset, and Obama wins anywayJul 04 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@guenterhack: Don't forget the Polish civil society who kicked off the first massive !ACTA street protests in the middle of winterJul 04 14:41
DaemonFCyeah, more or lessJul 04 14:41
DaemonFCFive Thirty Eight's model is giving Obama about a 70% chance of winning the electionJul 04 14:41
squarepegChad Herman's numbers come from actual police reports over a 10 year span.Jul 04 14:41
DaemonFCI say he has a better chance than thatJul 04 14:41
formic_the more amusing factor is that people give a damn about votingJul 04 14:41
formic_'choose your dictator'Jul 04 14:41
DaemonFCRomney is a weak candidate who few people actually likeJul 04 14:41
DaemonFChe flip flops constantlyJul 04 14:42
squarepegFeminists get hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding for these lies.Jul 04 14:42
DaemonFChe really is a Republican version of John KerryJul 04 14:42
formic_DaemonFC: isnt flip flopping good? giving into what ppl want?Jul 04 14:42
squarepegAl Capone would be jealous of their effortless rape lie racketeeringJul 04 14:42
DaemonFCformic_: Bain CapitalJul 04 14:42
squarepegThey make more money than Al Capone for much less effort and zero risk.Jul 04 14:42
DaemonFCthat's all Obama has to doJul 04 14:42
MinceRdepends on the reason flip-flopping happensJul 04 14:42
DaemonFCkeep pushing Bain CapitalJul 04 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SAP: We Love Linux http://ur1.ca/9q326 #sap #linuxJul 04 14:42
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MinceRromney has no real values behind his policies, he just says what he thinks his audience wants to hear at the momentJul 04 14:43
DaemonFCit's already having an effect on the states where he is running those commercialsJul 04 14:43
DaemonFCpeople look into Romney and Bain CapitalJul 04 14:43
DaemonFCand don't like what they seeJul 04 14:43
squarepegRomney and Obama are both losers.Jul 04 14:43
squarepegI wish they could both lose the election.Jul 04 14:43
formic_people voted liberal for provincial cause they kept copying NDPJul 04 14:43
DaemonFCMinceR: The problem is when you run into voters who have heard you tell everything several different waysJul 04 14:44
DaemonFCand don't think you can be trustedJul 04 14:44
schestowitz"Why don't they simply offer a GNOME Shell/Gnome2/KDE/XFce graphics theme instead of a whole new operating system?"  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768719Jul 04 14:44
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Commodore OS brings classic design to #LinuxMint  http://liliputing.com/2012/07/commodore-os-brings-classic-design-linux-mint.html #gnu #linuxJul 04 14:44
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DaemonFCMinceR: There's always RomneycareJul 04 14:44
DaemonFChe can't attack Obamacare and run away from Romneycare at the same timeJul 04 14:44
MinceRhe does just that, afaikJul 04 14:45
MinceRhe attacks abomineycare and takes credit for abomineycareJul 04 14:45
DaemonFCyeah, it's not going to workJul 04 14:45
DaemonFCthere's a limit to how stupid most people can beJul 04 14:45
formic_no there isntJul 04 14:45
DaemonFCgranted you have to try real hard to reach itJul 04 14:46
DaemonFCbut it's thereJul 04 14:46
MinceRi'm not sure if that limit exists or has been reachedJul 04 14:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1769091Jul 04 14:47
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schestowitz"This looks amazing. There should be more like these!"Jul 04 14:47
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MinceRniceJul 04 14:47
MinceRi wonder how much those panels cost and how much their upkeep costs, though :>Jul 04 14:47
schestowitzLOL https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1769149Jul 04 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr@penguinized@pod.geraspora.de reshared: #linux #appleJul 04 14:49
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schestowitznow I know what the hole in the Apple is forJul 04 14:49
MinceR:>Jul 04 14:50
MinceRthat's where the microorganisms in which the rot manifests get in and gain access to airJul 04 14:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Hence, with the dead stench of !ACTA corpse, begins the Summer of #Datalove! Unleash the Kittehs!Jul 04 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Fuck the 4th of July.Jul 04 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OLPC XO-3 Tablet Delayed as Design Gets Finalized http://ur1.ca/9q34c #gnu #linux #tabletJul 04 14:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oval Elephant $71 PC-on-a-stick runs Android, Linux http://ur1.ca/9q34w #linux #androidJul 04 14:59
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schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=12216&MediaType=1&Category=26Jul 04 15:00
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schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768719Jul 04 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Commodore OS brings classic design to #LinuxMint  http://liliputing.com/2012/07/commodore-os-brings-classic-design-linux-mint.html #gnu #linuxJul 04 15:02
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schestowitz"Jul 04 15:02
schestowitzI guess, they are just offering a standard DE using their theme, the rest of the system will most probably be identical to Mint.Jul 04 15:02
schestowitzWhy? Because Jul 04 15:02
schestowitz1.  it sounds nicer Jul 04 15:02
schestowitz2.   you dont get problems about the name Jul 04 15:02
schestowitz3.   there are no expectations about contribution.Jul 04 15:02
schestowitz"Jul 04 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: you won! - http://bit.ly/OokhtN important point: European citizens made this happenJul 04 15:04
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XFaCEschestowitz: Killing ACTA is some positive news in negative timesJul 04 15:10
XFaCEEspecially with the TPP on the horizon, and the Canadian responseJul 04 15:11
XFaCEschestowitz: "We'll bend over and take everything"Jul 04 15:11
XFaCE- Duchess HarperJul 04 15:11
schestowitzwhitewash from India http://www.ciol.com/Developer/News-Reports/Microsoft-OK-with-Linux-desktop/163883/0/Jul 04 15:11
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MinceRmicrosoft OK with microsoft linux?Jul 04 15:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Europe declares independence from Hollywood with #ACTA vote - http://bit.ly/P84yk6 early US perspectiveJul 04 15:16
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schestowitz"Bye #ACTA :-) Let's keep vigil for the next attack on freedom." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768862Jul 04 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Battery's charging off the DVD player. Awesome!Jul 04 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: this is how I will remember victory - http://bit.ly/MWZjAx (v @beabusaniche @derechosdigital @reddit @omaidog)Jul 04 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Controversial anti-piracy agreement rejected by EU (BBC) http://ur1.ca/9q3dyJul 04 15:31
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768900Jul 04 15:33
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schestowitz"Choose the red pill! :-s"Jul 04 15:33
DaemonFChmmJul 04 15:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @glynmoody #ACTA: you won! - http://bit.ly/OokhtN important point: European citizens made this happenJul 04 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The 39 that voted for ACTA:ALDE: Newton Dunn, Takkula EFD: Allam, Provera, Tzavela PPE: Audy, Bendtsen, Berra, Cadec... http://b1t.it/bIj6Jul 04 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to C30 C60 C90 Go!Jul 04 15:37
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DaemonFCIf it's like Mandriva was, their version of GRUB never gave me problems with XFSJul 04 15:38
DaemonFCon the other hand, SUSE's Grub Legacy lets you install it and then eats your file system at some pointJul 04 15:39
DaemonFCand Fedora has never supported bootable XFS partitions, even after they switched to GRUB 2Jul 04 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The 165 that abstained ACTA vote:ALDE: Chatzimarkakis, De Backer, Hirsch, Klinz, Krahmer, Lambsdorff, Manders, Meissne... http://b1t.it/bIkoJul 04 15:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - The 165 that abstained ACTA vote: ALDE: Chatzimarkakis, De… .::. Size~: 139.63 KBJul 04 15:39
DaemonFCI see that Mageia still has LILO as a bootloader optionJul 04 15:39
DaemonFCI wonder how well that is supported....Jul 04 15:39
DaemonFCUbuntu would LET you make a bootable XFS partition then hang when GRUB couldn't install later on, AFTER the rest of the system installedJul 04 15:40
DaemonFCbut that's not a problem since GRUB 2Jul 04 15:40
DaemonFCthere's some misinformation in this threadJul 04 15:41
DaemonFCXFS defaults to 32-bit inode allocation, it always has. This is not a problem at all on partitions less than 1 TB. It "works" on larger partitions, but it has to place all inodes under the first TB which can lead to less than optimal performance.Jul 04 15:43
DaemonFCIf the partition is ENORMOUS (like, several TB), it's possible that at some point it will run out of places it can put inodes, period, and tell you that the disk is full when it isn't :)Jul 04 15:43
schestowitzLinux.com not quite covering Linux https://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/598139:bloomberg-apple-plans-to-launch-smaller-ipad-this-year-rumorsJul 04 15:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bloomberg: Apple Plans to Launch Smaller iPad This Year [Rumors] | Linux.com .::. Size~: 40.08 KBJul 04 15:44
iophkThe BBC article on ACTA showed "A total of 478 MEPs voted against the deal, with 39 in favour. There were 165 abstentions.",  that's a lot of abstentions.  Jul 04 15:44
schestowitzthey're shy to vote yesJul 04 15:44
schestowitzthe list of smal;lJul 04 15:44
iophkGood that the overwhelming majority turned out to be pro-internet.Jul 04 15:44
schestowitz39Jul 04 15:44
schestowitzpeople can internalise that list, label it "disgusting fascists"Jul 04 15:44
DaemonFCyou can easily work around this problem by mounting it with the inode64 option, doesn't have to be done during mkfs, it can be added to /etc/fstab later onJul 04 15:44
schestowitzSame with SOPAJul 04 15:45
schestowitzJust becase of fear of public reactionJul 04 15:45
DaemonFCbefore Linux 2.6.35, the behavior was "undefined" if you later removed that mount option (but it almost always worked)Jul 04 15:45
DaemonFCafter 2.6.35, switching back and forth works fine, but I'm not sure why you would :)Jul 04 15:45
iophkFear of public reaction as a main reason is fleeting.Jul 04 15:45
DaemonFCthere's no need to fear XFS, the biggest thing to be afraid of is what GNU GRUB might do *to* XFSJul 04 15:46
MinceRis there a publicly available list of those 39 in favor of ACTA?Jul 04 15:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Celebrating is good, but between us we need to ask all 39 who voted "for" why. & explain why they are mistaken. & we are watching. #ACTAJul 04 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] As for the 165 who abstained: We need to address the party they were obeying #ACTAJul 04 15:47
DaemonFCbut in some ways I liked GRUB Legacy more than GRUB 2, it just depends on which distribution patches are applied to itJul 04 15:48
DaemonFCMandriva's seemed to work fineJul 04 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] This is interesting, BTW. Just before the ACTA vote there was the vote on the EPP request to postpone the ACTA vote. T... http://b1t.it/bIkyJul 04 15:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - This is interesting, BTW. Just before the ACTA vote there… .::. Size~: 132.47 KBJul 04 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Would You Buy a $100, Open Source, Android Gaming Console Designed by Yves Behar? http://ur1.ca/9q3jf #android #opensourceJul 04 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Slackware-based #Porteus live system update has #Linux 3.4 http://ur1.ca/9q3jh #SlackwareJul 04 15:51
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iophkMinceR: there is some outdated information here:Jul 04 15:54
iophkhttp://whovotesforacta.eu/main_page/votes.htmlJul 04 15:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who Votes For ACTA .::. Size~: 10.91 KBJul 04 15:54
iophkIt claims that it is updated 2x per day so maybe it will be refreshed with the final vote.Jul 04 15:54
iophkNo info over at the EU parliament:Jul 04 15:55
iophkhttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/search?q=actaJul 04 15:55
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MinceRthanksJul 04 15:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HP Leans on Linux for Gemini Moonshot Servers http://ur1.ca/9q3l3 #linux #hpJul 04 15:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Looking fwd to talking about Free Software and democracy in the European Parliament next week http://ur1.ca/9q3kt w/ @carlopiana Join us!Jul 04 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Into Free Software? Want to fix the world? FSFE has two internship opportunities from August. Apply now: http://ur1.ca/9q33fJul 04 16:04
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iophkHere's another on ACTA. Jul 04 16:05
iophkhttps://torrentfreak.com/acta-is-dead-after-european-parliament-vote-120704/Jul 04 16:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Is DEAD After European Parliament Vote | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 45.74 KBJul 04 16:05
iophkI ended up writing to the first site.  We'll see if they write back and/or update their tallies.Jul 04 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Powered Sequoia is Top Supercomputer in the World http://ur1.ca/9q3nbJul 04 16:09
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schestowitzhttp://www.smartcompany.com.au/information-technology/050229-nokia-kills-linux-os-project-but-continues-qt-development-amid-10-000-layoffs.htmlJul 04 16:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia kills Linux OS projects but continues Qt development amid 10,000 layoffs .::. Size~: 62.5 KBJul 04 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Zacchiroli: working with FSF on Debian Free-ness assessment http://ur1.ca/9q3o8Jul 04 16:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/mobile-wireless/281522/nokia-drops-linux-prototype-platformJul 04 16:17
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schestowitzhttp://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/report-nokia-scraps-linux-based-os-feature-phones/2012-06-15Jul 04 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Report: Nokia scraps Linux-based OS for feature phones - FierceMobileContent .::. Size~: 47.75 KBJul 04 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #ACTA: Today, we won. Tonight, we celebrate. Tomorrow, we fight. http://ur1.ca/9q3ovJul 04 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] uh-oh Till #Jaeger is watching #GPL.next on github.Jul 04 16:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA is dead. The fight goes on « Karsten on Free Software .::. Size~: 55.13 KBJul 04 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: +1: #PEGI (pan-EU age-rating for video games) extended to all apps. http://t.co/1uY8XFl2 #betterinternet4kidsJul 04 16:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @karsten: #ACTA: Today, we won. Tonight, we celebrate. Tomorrow, we fight. http://ur1.ca/9q3ovJul 04 16:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA is dead. The fight goes on « Karsten on Free Software .::. Size~: 55.16 KBJul 04 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: #PEGI move = a step forward in making Internet a better place for children http://t.co/1uY8XFl2Jul 04 16:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @suntsu this is part of a wider industry programme http://t.co/rt54EdP7Jul 04 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] UK judge rules #HTC doesn't violate #Apple's #patents, invalidates Cupertino's claims ~ Engadget by Terrence O'Brien h... http://b1t.it/bIlKJul 04 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] New #Chakra release reported at #Distrowatch http://is.gd/fILCok http://b1t.it/bIlPJul 04 16:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Distribution Release: Chakra GNU/Linux 2012.07 (DistroWatch.com News) .::. Size~: 114.72 KBJul 04 16:52
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DaemonFCmy arm is still peeling from that sunburnJul 04 16:55
DaemonFCgrossJul 04 16:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @dfunk: Microsoft Anti !Linux Training http://ur1.ca/9q3vg what the heck is this http://b1t.it/bIlQJul 04 16:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] And a new #Porteus release too http://is.gd/D9L3DM http://b1t.it/bIlTJul 04 16:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Distribution Release: Porteus 1.2 (DistroWatch.com News) .::. Size~: 113.15 KBJul 04 16:59
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DaemonFCI wonder why Ktorrent is so hit or miss with magnets latelyJul 04 17:06
formic_transmission > ktorrentJul 04 17:08
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1768719Jul 04 17:12
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Commodore OS brings classic design to #LinuxMint  http://liliputing.com/2012/07/commodore-os-brings-classic-design-linux-mint.html #gnu #linuxJul 04 17:12
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Commodore OS brings classic design to Linux Mint - Liliputing .::. Size~: 35.73 KBJul 04 17:12
schestowitzas theme i would propably download it... Jul 04 17:12
schestowitzbut as complete os I just  will download it and have a look on it...Jul 04 17:12
schestowitz"Jul 04 17:12
schestowitz"If you use a Debian-based GNU/Linux, you should download and install their themes because they are just additional deb-packages"Jul 04 17:12
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schestowitzhttp://mashable.com/2012/06/11/navy-will-switch-drones-to-linux/Jul 04 17:14
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schestowitzU.S. Navy Will Spend $34 Million to Switch Drones to LinuxJul 04 17:14
schestowitzhttp://www.geekosystem.com/navy-linux-drones/Jul 04 17:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Navy Switching Its Firescout Drones Over to Linux | Geekosystem .::. Size~: 58.99 KBJul 04 17:16
DaemonFCnahJul 04 17:16
DaemonFCKtorrent tells you what's in the torrent and lets you pick what you wantJul 04 17:17
DaemonFCTransmission doesn't do that when it's a magnetJul 04 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Kristian Köhntopp http://ur1.ca/9q411Jul 04 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @rms: Londoners will protest Olympic Games http://ur1.ca/9q3ylJul 04 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Andrew Plumb http://ur1.ca/9q41uJul 04 17:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Extreme Bio-RepRap action! .::. Size~: 149.85 KBJul 04 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA’s Rejection by the European Parliament: is #TPP next? - http://bit.ly/LYY6vy yes, pleaseJul 04 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament Declares Its Independence From European Commission With A Massive Rejection Of #ACTA. Now What? - http://bit.ly/PdBQ2uJul 04 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] From what I can tell, we definitely have anew particle, but we're not sure it's the massy particle yet? http://b1t.it/bImhJul 04 17:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACTA Rejected by the European Parliament: is TPP next? .::. Size~: 32.3 KBJul 04 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How secrecy in medical research harms our health - http://bit.ly/N8PYWR #opendata #openaccess nowJul 04 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Loch Ness Monster used as "evidence" against evolution - go #USA! bit.ly/M6kH5F !religion !lolJul 04 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Not sure we can fire De Gucht, but sure as hell we can show him our appreciation: chn.ge/M6kO19 !ACTA !copyfraudJul 04 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Why yes, yes indeed, we will celebrate today! ♻ @teirdes: Victory song! http://t.co/DGT8zcXG !ACTA #exile6eJul 04 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #ACTA is dead, but lobbying isn't over ~ TechEye by Tamlin Magee http://is.gd/3h9APX http://b1t.it/bImjJul 04 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Comment: ACTA is dead, but lobbying isn't over - Hold your horses, armchair activists, there's a way to go | TechEye .::. Size~: 19.96 KBJul 04 17:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @SiteHacked: #ACTA TANGO DOWN!Jul 04 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@teirdes also - Another One Bites The Dust seems *proper* today bit.ly/M6luDQ #ACTA #SOPA #PIPAJul 04 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @th3sturd: Happy Independence Day, Europe! #ACTAJul 04 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @panoptykon: #ACTA Na deser jeszcze komentarz dla TV24 ;-) http://t.co/O9fvR9ncJul 04 17:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "ACTA symbolem lobbystów. Społeczeństwo pokazało, że jest wściekłe" .::. Size~: 124.52 KBJul 04 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] How !OpenSource Hardware Is Driving the 3D-Printing Industry http://is.gd/mgMCb6 http://b1t.it/bImqJul 04 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ARM Wrestling: #Fedora 17 vs. #Ubuntu #Linux http://ur1.ca/9q45fJul 04 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 4/7/2012: Blizzard’s Linux PR Crisis, Fuduntu 2012.3 Released http://ur1.ca/9q45j #techrightsJul 04 17:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] ARM Wrestling: Fedora 17 vs. Ubuntu Linux .::. Size~: 19.81 KBJul 04 17:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Yeah, I guess we can't be disappointed, because we couldn't have expected any better :(Jul 04 17:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 'Governments that embrace open data will also switch to open source' v @schestowitz on Reddit http://is.gd/JBLduw http://b1t.it/bImAJul 04 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] If you want to know where Google is heading (pun intended) with their glasses, just read the books "Daemon" and "Freed... http://b1t.it/bImBJul 04 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] http://nj3ma.tumblr.comJul 04 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Chime.inJul 04 17:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/9q475Jul 04 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Star Wars That I Used To Know bit.ly/N9PKz3 oh wow. !lolJul 04 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ACTA Killed In European Parliament http://ur1.ca/9q2bg recall what Obama said: http://ur1.ca/pelj #hollywood #cronycapitalism #imperialsmJul 04 18:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: VICTORY! ACTA Suffers Final, Humiliating Defeat In European Parliament - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 296.83 KBJul 04 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Tzag and Good Afternoon !identiverseJul 04 18:09
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/03/1105233/-Seamus-the-Irish-Setter-appears-in-new-ad-touting-President-Obama-s-fuel-efficiency-policyJul 04 18:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WAT?! "Networks are modern-day microphone by which their owners [e.g. ISPs] engage in First Amendment speech" bit.ly/N9QFzrJul 04 18:14
DaemonFChttp://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/51562/2096695590082084340S600x600Q85.jpgJul 04 18:18
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DaemonFCgood dogJul 04 18:18
squarepegI'm not happy about either candidateJul 04 18:19
DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/03/1105713/-Pew-45-percent-of-country-has-no-clue-what-just-nbsp-happenedJul 04 18:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Daily Kos: Pew: 45 percent of country has no clue what just happened .::. Size~: 194.82 KBJul 04 18:21
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DaemonFCI'm not happy, but I'm voting for Obama againJul 04 18:21
DaemonFCMittens is shockingly worseJul 04 18:21
squarepegit's hard to be sure who is worseJul 04 18:22
DaemonFCuhhm, the guy that strapped the dog to the top of his carJul 04 18:22
DaemonFCMittensJul 04 18:22
squarepegobama is pressing the Feminist campaign at great cost to American menJul 04 18:22
squarepegMitt wants to ramp up the defense budget and press the Feminist campaign against foreign menJul 04 18:22
squarepegeither way, men loseJul 04 18:22
DaemonFCMitt isn't a manJul 04 18:23
DaemonFChe's not even humanJul 04 18:23
DaemonFChe's a scourge Jul 04 18:23
DaemonFChe's like Dan HalenJul 04 18:23
squarepegI can see you're very partisan and very excited by the upcoming electionJul 04 18:23
squarepegI'm almost indifferent Jul 04 18:23
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BlJRtsQrgoJul 04 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Something You Can Do Outside a Conservative MP's Office - Chalk One Up for Robofraud Justice http://ur1.ca/9q4ck #DenounceHarper & friendsJul 04 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu Shaped Crop Circles Appear in Italy http://ur1.ca/9q4cr even though the logo is unoriginalJul 04 18:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Something You Can Do Outside a Conservative MP's Office - Chalk One Up for Robofraud Justice       - YouTube .::. Size~: 170.76 KBJul 04 18:26
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squarepegI might vote for Ron PaulJul 04 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Akademy: Plasma Active and Make Play Live http://ur1.ca/9q4daJul 04 18:27
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DaemonFCsquarepeg: I did vote for Ron PaulJul 04 18:28
DaemonFCI voted as a Republican in the primaryJul 04 18:28
squarepegahJul 04 18:28
DaemonFCnow it's just Anything But MittensJul 04 18:28
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 18:28
squarepegI voted for Obama last time. I'm almost regretful. Jul 04 18:29
DaemonFCwhy?Jul 04 18:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ROTFL! Der für Telepolis' Mutterverlag Heise tätige Anwalt +Jörg Heidrich stellt fest: „Aktuell kann die GEMA ihr... http://b1t.it/bInuJul 04 18:29
DaemonFCwould you rather have the ZOMG Maverick?Jul 04 18:29
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squarepegnope.Jul 04 18:29
DaemonFCand Miss. I Can See Alaska, Don'tcha Know?Jul 04 18:29
formic_they're all the sameJul 04 18:29
squarepegThat's the problem. You get to choose between two warmongers.Jul 04 18:29
formic_pick your dictatorJul 04 18:30
formic_mccain would have done exactly what obama didJul 04 18:30
DaemonFCyou know Katie Couric and that damned trick questionJul 04 18:30
DaemonFC"What do you read?"Jul 04 18:30
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #france going after large-scale criminal operation http://ur1.ca/9q4dl c/f http://ur1.ca/vrcj & http://ur1.ca/9psw5Jul 04 18:31
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formic_what do *you* read?Jul 04 18:31
DaemonFCat least Obama isn't FUCKING STUPIDJul 04 18:31
formic_yeah he isJul 04 18:31
DaemonFCoh you know, a little of this, some of that! But I can see Russia from my house!Jul 04 18:31
DaemonFCHERPA DERP DERP!Jul 04 18:31
squarepegYepJul 04 18:31
squarepegObama is a dummy. He's reminding me of Bill Clinton or Tony Blair. Jul 04 18:32
DaemonFChell, bring back Richard NixonJul 04 18:33
DaemonFCjust go dig him back upJul 04 18:33
DaemonFCI'm sure he's still as fresh as everJul 04 18:33
DaemonFCrun Carter again, he's still eligible for another termJul 04 18:33
DaemonFCpoliticians haven't gotten worse, their policies have just finally caught up with usJul 04 18:34
DaemonFCit takes big things a while to failJul 04 18:34
squarepegI was put off as soon as Obama approved the first air strike in Yemen, which killed civilians.Jul 04 18:34
squarepegThat's not what I voted for.Jul 04 18:34
squarepeg6 more years of war in Afghanistan from Obama...Jul 04 18:35
squarepegHe's pretty weak and dumb.Jul 04 18:35
DaemonFCMittens will change everything!Jul 04 18:35
DaemonFCEVERYTHING!Jul 04 18:35
DaemonFCMUAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!Jul 04 18:35
squarepegwell, at least the Democrats would be dejected.Jul 04 18:35
squarepegIf you never vote for an incumbent, that is the best negative feedback you can send.Jul 04 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Obama and his bosses/funders are having a bad 4th of July http://ur1.ca/9q4f0 http://ur1.ca/9q4f1 #actaJul 04 18:36
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DaemonFCI can't believe Mittens actually made it through the primaryJul 04 18:36
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DaemonFCwith all these TEA fascists aroundJul 04 18:36
squarepegfascists?Jul 04 18:36
DaemonFCmy only explanation is the Democrats must have gotten together, voted in the Republican primaries, and thought it would be amusing to see Mittens go up against ObamaJul 04 18:36
squarepegDaemonFC: you're too excited about this election.Jul 04 18:37
DaemonFCyeah, the Corporate Power Tools in the TEA partyJul 04 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Harihareswara: Be Bold: An Origin Story http://ur1.ca/9q4f6Jul 04 18:37
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squarepegThe core of the Tea Party is anti-federalist, not fascist.Jul 04 18:38
DaemonFCthe core of the TEA Party is whatever corporate America wantsJul 04 18:38
schestowitz"I am not fond of the US either; in particular, the corruption that drives politics and makes life miserable at home (and away) needs to be fought against; many in the population are just too stupid. The media is to blame, and the PR industry at large (the likes of Bernays). -meJul 04 18:38
squarepegLiberty and guns are their core values.Jul 04 18:38
DaemonFCno, their core values are big governmentJul 04 18:38
DaemonFCenforcing Big ReligionJul 04 18:38
squarepegDaemonFC: you don't know what you're talking about.Jul 04 18:38
DaemonFCthey want big government, they just want a huge military and persecution of minoritiesJul 04 18:38
DaemonFCthey're neoconservatives acting like they're something elseJul 04 18:39
squarepegNobody in particular speaks for the whole group. Jul 04 18:39
DaemonFCthey want Social Security and Medicare shut down when most of them are OLD and on Social Security and MedicareJul 04 18:39
DaemonFCI mean, how stupid do these people get?Jul 04 18:39
DaemonFCit there a Land of Stupid that these people come from?Jul 04 18:40
schestowitzMinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1769629Jul 04 18:40
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DaemonFCRupert Murdoch is the leader of the TEA PartyJul 04 18:40
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DaemonFCthey all do whatever Fox Noise tells themJul 04 18:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: not koch also?Jul 04 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Isn't it sort of obvious that the reason #Debian is not !free is that it has an official nonfree repository? !notatroll !puzzled #levitationJul 04 18:41
DaemonFCthey're a bunch of puppets Jul 04 18:41
MinceRschestowitz: BK and KFC both sell better fries :>Jul 04 18:41
schestowitzMurdoch is just the rectum of the hydraJul 04 18:41
DaemonFCthey're propped up by the banksters and other business criminals who want the government off their assJul 04 18:41
schestowitzit farts out liesJul 04 18:41
squarepegMurdoch is obnoxious. I don't care for him.Jul 04 18:41
squarepegBut he's not the biggest problem in the world.Jul 04 18:41
squarepeghe's not the only problem in the world.Jul 04 18:42
schestowitzhe's part of itJul 04 18:42
squarepeghe's not the wizard behind the curtain.Jul 04 18:42
DaemonFChe runs a propaganda machineJul 04 18:42
schestowitzThat's enough to not let him off the hookJul 04 18:42
DaemonFChe's a big part of what's wrong with the worldJul 04 18:42
schestowitzhe is highly ranked in the world's biggest mafiaJul 04 18:42
squarepegyeah, he's full of crap, but not any more so than the liberals. He peddles a different brand of crap.Jul 04 18:42
schestowitzhe's like the communications ministerJul 04 18:42
schestowitzmurdoch should be in jailJul 04 18:43
DaemonFCsquarepeg: The problem is that there aren't any liberal or conservative news sourcesJul 04 18:43
DaemonFCjust this crapJul 04 18:43
schestowitzover then phone abuses a the very leastJul 04 18:43
schestowitzbut jail is not punishment enough in his ageJul 04 18:43
schestowitzsend him to one where there's work all the time, recruit him to Fox-ConnJul 04 18:43
iophkhttp://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-201207.en.htmlJul 04 18:43
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schestowitzDaemonFC: there wereJul 04 18:44
schestowitzthey got stravesJul 04 18:44
squarepegYou know how a clown like Murdoch gets his power?Jul 04 18:44
squarepegLibs give him the power.Jul 04 18:44
schestowitzno corporte backers like GE and MSJul 04 18:44
DaemonFCyou have to wonder why someone that's like a thousand years old even still cares enough to run a propaganda machine like Fox NoiseJul 04 18:44
squarepegPeople like DaemonFC are the reason Murdoch thrives.Jul 04 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav Happy !Birthday !Identica, 4 years old today! That makes us one of the oldest social networks that is still operating. Thanks @ ...Jul 04 18:44
schestowitzyeahJul 04 18:44
squarepegbecause normal people are so enraged by libs that they flock to Limbaugh and MurdochJul 04 18:44
schestowitztoday I watched 2 hours of O'Reilly clipJul 04 18:45
schestowitzit's very grossJul 04 18:45
DaemonFCno, those smut peddlers enrage peopleJul 04 18:45
schestowitzannoying to even eatchJul 04 18:45
DaemonFCby propping up straw men liberalsJul 04 18:45
schestowitzthey also launched an attack onatheistsJul 04 18:45
schestowitzbut it's not a raceJul 04 18:45
schestowitzso you can't call them racist based on thatJul 04 18:45
squarepegWell the progressives in the UK are giving the country away to immigrants as quickly as they can. Jul 04 18:45
DaemonFCyeah, they have something like the TEA Party over thereJul 04 18:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: The 39 MEPs That Voted For #ACTA http://iPir.at/9ogJul 04 18:46
schestowitzpropagandsa minister murdoch works to ensure people continue to be conteolled by religious dogmaJul 04 18:46
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DaemonFCI think they call it the British National PartyJul 04 18:46
DaemonFCit's basically a bunch of NazisJul 04 18:46
squarepegDaemonFC: ridiculous.Jul 04 18:46
DaemonFCold white menJul 04 18:46
DaemonFClots of money Jul 04 18:46
DaemonFClittle penisJul 04 18:46
squarepegThey're a bunch of British who don't want to be out-bred by a massive influx of immigrans.Jul 04 18:46
DaemonFCbig SUVJul 04 18:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: oversimplification with loaded wordJul 04 18:47
squarepegDaemonFC: you don't like whites?Jul 04 18:47
DaemonFCbitches about "Obama sending all the jobs overseas" as he loads up his cart at Walmart with frivolous impulse crapJul 04 18:47
DaemonFCyou know, THOSE peopleJul 04 18:47
squarepegEvery nativist movement in modern Europe has an important purpose. Jul 04 18:48
squarepegDaemonFC: you don't like men with small penis for obvious reasons, I guess.Jul 04 18:48
DaemonFCI don't like white supremacists Jul 04 18:48
DaemonFCbecause they're often extremists in more ways than just thatJul 04 18:48
DaemonFCand it usually ends up badlyJul 04 18:49
DaemonFCthey have to blame other people for their own failings Jul 04 18:49
MinceR194531 < schestowitz> so you can't call them racist based on thatJul 04 18:49
MinceRcall them chauvinists or bigots, thenJul 04 18:49
DaemonFCthey want to incite violence against convenient made-up enemiesJul 04 18:49
formic_daemonfc likes obamaJul 04 18:49
DaemonFCround up the JewsJul 04 18:49
DaemonFClynch the niggersJul 04 18:50
squarepegthere's a difference between racial supremacy organizations and racial solidarity organizationsJul 04 18:50
DaemonFCsame thingJul 04 18:50
squarepegDaemonFC: same as always, your sentences are too small. Jul 04 18:50
squarepegyou take up too much vertical space for too little content.Jul 04 18:50
MinceRthat's what she said.Jul 04 18:50
squarepegthink more, press RETURN less.Jul 04 18:50
DaemonFC[13:50] <squarepeg> there's a difference between racial supremacy organizations and racial solidarity organizationsJul 04 18:50
DaemonFCYes, they call themselves solidarity unions so they don't have to admit they are supremacistsJul 04 18:51
squarepegIsrael is throwing out non-Jewish, non-Arabic immigrants. It doesn't bother me, although they should have allowed them in the first place.Jul 04 18:51
squarepegZimbabwe has driven out their white population mostly. Jul 04 18:51
DaemonFCthe Jews invaded and took the land in the first placeJul 04 18:51
MinceRracism and religious bigotry doesn't bother you?Jul 04 18:51
squarepegBut Europe welcomes immigrants.Jul 04 18:51
DaemonFCthe UN and the British did it Jul 04 18:51
MinceRsquarepeg: except switzerlandJul 04 18:52
DaemonFCthey enabled this occupation, I meanJul 04 18:52
squarepegDaemonFC: yeah they did, but it's two percent of the Arabian peninsula. Get over it. Jul 04 18:52
DaemonFCnot that I care...Jul 04 18:52
MinceRsquarepeg: what percentage of the planet do you think is right to allocate to racists and religious extremists?Jul 04 18:52
DaemonFCtwo religious extremists blow each other up........what did the world lose?Jul 04 18:52
MinceRthey should hurry up. and they should do it without collateral damage.Jul 04 18:53
squarepegMinceR: that's not all Israelis. The bigger problem in Israel is the secular left. Jul 04 18:53
DaemonFCwhy is it a problem to be rational?Jul 04 18:54
MinceRsquarepeg: how so?Jul 04 18:54
DaemonFCrunning around telling people about your imaginary friend should get you forcibly committedJul 04 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy Independence Day to my American Friends http://ur1.ca/9q4haJul 04 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @sandersch @ladyj it doesn't take money to be valuable. People do spend a lot of money to look cheap.Jul 04 18:54
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DaemonFCinstead, they are "normal"Jul 04 18:54
squarepegIt's not the lack of religion. It's the bigotry against old world values that "progressives" adhere to. Jul 04 18:54
squarepegIt's the poisonous Feminism. Jul 04 18:54
schestowitzMinceR: you should see the videos I saw today (on the tablet). Fox is at times extremely nasty over it.Jul 04 18:54
schestowitzthey've nothing to fear; all their viewers are faithheads anyway, they love it.Jul 04 18:55
MinceRsquarepeg: what has feminism have to do with the persecution of arabs and non-jews in israel?Jul 04 18:55
squarepegIt will take Israel a few more generations for neighboring Muslim populations to forget about the land they lost.Jul 04 18:55
MinceRso what will happen then?Jul 04 18:56
schestowitz[18:51] <DaemonFC> the Jews invaded and took the land in the first placeJul 04 18:56
schestowitzyupJul 04 18:56
schestowitzso did "americans"Jul 04 18:56
MinceRnot that i think your estimate is anywhere near accurateJul 04 18:56
schestowitzI mean, the EUropeans in AmericaJul 04 18:56
DaemonFCyeahJul 04 18:56
DaemonFCI didn't do thatJul 04 18:56
schestowitzbut to be fair, when the Jewry/Semites invaded Palestine they had already had some there, for a long timeJul 04 18:57
DaemonFCimplying that I share guilt over what someone did more than 200 years ago is ridiculousJul 04 18:57
MinceRso, why can't they coexist?Jul 04 18:57
MinceRwait, that would be religion.Jul 04 18:57
schestowitzPrior to that there was co-existence in one land, with friction. They the ratio changes, with mass-immigratuon backed by UN/British mandate and some 'holy' booksJul 04 18:57
squarepegMinceR: you have to think deeper than just Marxism to solve all your problems.Jul 04 18:57
schestowitzMinceR: yesJul 04 18:57
squarepegReligion isn't going away.Jul 04 18:57
schestowitzgenetically there's little differenceJul 04 18:57
MinceRsquarepeg: i don't care for marxismJul 04 18:57
schestowitzif you quantify genetic difference, DNA-wiseJul 04 18:58
squarepegDiscrimination must be done in order to keep your identity. Jul 04 18:58
MinceRand religion doesn't have to go awayJul 04 18:58
DaemonFCreligion will go away when there are no more humansJul 04 18:58
DaemonFCand that's coming....Jul 04 18:58
MinceRit should just be put into its placeJul 04 18:58
schestowitzreligion should not be identityJul 04 18:58
schestowitzmyths are poor identity factorJul 04 18:58
MinceRnot in the state, not in public spending, not in lawsJul 04 18:58
schestowitzbetter to identify by objective meansJul 04 18:58
MinceRnot in education and scienceJul 04 18:58
squarepegReligion is a naturally occurring phenomenon.Jul 04 18:58
DaemonFCwe'll go on for a while, some of us anywayJul 04 18:58
schestowitznot genital mutilation, eitherJul 04 18:58
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MinceRit should not be forced on anyoneJul 04 18:58
MinceRand that includes religious practices like genital mutilationJul 04 18:59
DaemonFCsome people will be able to afford private security, clean water, air conditioning, and a secure food supplyJul 04 18:59
DaemonFCeven as the rest of the world descends into hellJul 04 18:59
schestowitz[18:58] <squarepeg> Discrimination must be done in order to keep your identity. Jul 04 18:59
schestowitzSimilificationJul 04 18:59
schestowitzthose are refugeesJul 04 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I didn't know that, but am willing to believe !Identica 's proud grandfather @stav ;DJul 04 18:59
MinceRone can have an identity without being a bigotJul 04 18:59
schestowitzthe West inc. Europe had quotas for managing escapees who dodge prosection or deathJul 04 18:59
squarepegschestowitz: everyone discriminates. Anyone who doesn't discriminate is a fool.Jul 04 18:59
schestowitzhaJul 04 18:59
schestowitzgood reasoning thereJul 04 19:00
schestowitzgood luck running for officeJul 04 19:00
squarepegMinceR: people are too worked up about bigotry. They need to be more tolerant of the most common forms of bigotry. Jul 04 19:00
MinceRno, they need to be more tolerantJul 04 19:00
MinceR(i.e. not bigots)Jul 04 19:00
schestowitzyeahJul 04 19:00
schestowitzpeople don't need to be identicalJul 04 19:00
schestowitzit leads to people's groupthinkJul 04 19:00
schestowitzNazism for exampleJul 04 19:00
squarepegNazism is too much bigotryJul 04 19:01
DaemonFCI'm not a bigot, religion offends me for reasons I can clearly state that have a provable and obvious damaging impact on my daily lifeJul 04 19:01
schestowitzI have a friend from Afghanistan here, lovely fellow, we respect each other... it doesn't thraten anyone's identitytJul 04 19:01
squarepegBut the complete lack of any identity is suicide. Jul 04 19:01
schestowitzpeople who fear loss of their identity have a problem that's their ownJul 04 19:01
schestowitznobody gay forces a dick down their throatJul 04 19:01
schestowitzor a quran up their arseJul 04 19:02
schestowitzactually, religions impose moreJul 04 19:02
schestowitzcrusades, jihad, etc.Jul 04 19:02
MinceRblue lawsJul 04 19:02
schestowitzthe dogmatuic folks are least confident about their identityJul 04 19:02
MinceRpublic spending on cultsJul 04 19:02
squarepegThe best thing about Islam is that Mohammed married Aisha, a child bride. And then he made everyone praise him. That's power.Jul 04 19:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk :D I was wondering if your lot would be following Canada's lead and doing a #DenounceObama on the <ahem> other microblogging siteJul 04 19:02
schestowitzmaybe their prick moves when they see a naked dude or maybe they can't stand seeing someone who looks unlike their momJul 04 19:02
squarepegThank God for Mohammad. Jul 04 19:02
squarepegFeminists and fags didn't push him around.Jul 04 19:03
schestowitzMinceR: and remember tax breaksJul 04 19:03
MinceRand christianity made people praise an adulterer :>Jul 04 19:03
schestowitzcause.. well... it's a public service?Jul 04 19:03
MinceRi included tax breaks (and exemption) under public spendingJul 04 19:03
DaemonFCMinceR: You know what the difference between a Communist and a religious extremist is.....Jul 04 19:03
schestowitzone is politicalJul 04 19:03
MinceRDaemonFC: different idiotic views?Jul 04 19:03
DaemonFCa religious extremist wants the church to be the stateJul 04 19:03
DaemonFCthe communist wants the state to be the churchJul 04 19:03
MinceR:>Jul 04 19:03
schestowitzreligions are tool for political to control society... social trickJul 04 19:04
schestowitzif you can't control by forceful action, make up an invisible cop in the skyJul 04 19:04
squarepegyeah, but religions are also naturally occurring phenomenaJul 04 19:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @tekk War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and an authorized nonfree repository is !freeJul 04 19:04
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schestowitzand as ricky gervais says, jesus is like a free babysitterJul 04 19:04
MinceRintelligence is also a naturally occurring phenomenonJul 04 19:04
DaemonFCschestowitz: Do you know why I pulled you over?Jul 04 19:04
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 19:04
MinceRit can and should be used against religion :>Jul 04 19:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: you did?!Jul 04 19:05
MinceRjust like it can be used to overcome other instinctsJul 04 19:05
squarepegIf secular people weren't so quick to embrace dirty science, I wouldn't have to praise religious people so much. Jul 04 19:05
MinceRyou have to praise religious people?Jul 04 19:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: the god/cop commentJul 04 19:05
DaemonFCcops always ask if you know why they pulled you overJul 04 19:05
DaemonFCyou either lie to the cop or admit to having committed a crimeJul 04 19:06
DaemonFCit's a gotcha gameJul 04 19:06
squarepegMinceR: yeah to offset the seculariststrying to beat them down. Jul 04 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Better said by this person on LWN.net: http://ur1.ca/9q4ky (final paragraph)Jul 04 19:06
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MinceRDaemonFC: i don't think that "i don't know" is necessarily eitherJul 04 19:06
DaemonFCIt works best if you preempt themJul 04 19:06
MinceRsquarepeg: so you believe that secularists are trying to beat them down. interesting.Jul 04 19:06
DaemonFC"Good afternoon, Officer. Why did you pull me over?"Jul 04 19:06
DaemonFC:)Jul 04 19:06
MinceRsquarepeg: and where do you believe this happens? USA?Jul 04 19:07
MinceRmiddle east?Jul 04 19:07
squarepegUSA and Western EuropeJul 04 19:07
MinceRyeah, poor religious folksJul 04 19:07
squarepegThe death of religion in the West has corresponded with the Feminist ball-twisting takeoverJul 04 19:07
MinceRthey don't even have a chance at a political career unless they hide their beliefs... oh wait.Jul 04 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Imagining a family gathering 4 years ago: @evan says to @stav "Sorry I can't come to the fireworks, I'm giving birth to a social network!"Jul 04 19:07
DaemonFCone one hand, you don't have to answer them (Fifth Amendment), but on the other hand, they have a gun, a baton, and a taser, and anything they say in court is what happenedJul 04 19:07
DaemonFCso, you fucking lose!Jul 04 19:08
MinceRthey're also persecuted so hard in hungaryJul 04 19:08
DaemonFCHAHAHAHA!!!Jul 04 19:08
schestowitzsquarepeg: so did racismJul 04 19:08
schestowitzcompletely irrelevant, not of correlationJul 04 19:08
schestowitzReligions put down women, but religions fall because people get smarter and more civilisedJul 04 19:08
schestowitzReligious dogma is roadkill in this processJul 04 19:08
schestowitzas are aspects that treat women like a man's objectJul 04 19:08
MinceRlet's feel sorry together for the hungarian churches that have schools handed over them gratis due to our fundie government's tricksJul 04 19:09
MinceRand getting public money with itJul 04 19:09
squarepegDon't worry guys, religion is declining everywhere. Jul 04 19:09
schestowitzI'll drink goulash to thatJul 04 19:09
MinceRdoesn't look like thatJul 04 19:09
MinceRespecially not here in Mordor^WhungaryJul 04 19:09
schestowitzreligion replicates fast, tooJul 04 19:10
schestowitzit's racing against people who become saneJul 04 19:10
squarepegThe reason I'm standing up for the religious folks is because aggressive secularists are encroaching so rapidly.Jul 04 19:10
MinceRsquarepeg: and you have never stopped to think why?Jul 04 19:10
schestowitzIf more people become sane, and part of it is realising they're not baby machines, the religion speeds up the spawning processJul 04 19:10
schestowitzif not in the West, then elsewhereJul 04 19:10
squarepegMinceR: I don't care why. Jul 04 19:10
MinceRi seeJul 04 19:10
schestowitzmarriage is another vehicle for them to spread across borders, at least in the EUJul 04 19:10
MinceRyou see a cop handcuffing a robber, you immediately want to beat the copJul 04 19:11
squarepegschestowitz: look at Mincer copping an IRCop attitude.Jul 04 19:11
MinceRwhat?Jul 04 19:11
MinceRsquarepeg: also, what do you mean by "secularist", exactly? someone who is for separation of state and church or someone who is not religious?Jul 04 19:11
squarepegYou can't say a religious person isn't sane.Jul 04 19:12
schestowitzI canJul 04 19:12
squarepegConsider a Shinto priest in Japan making offerings at a shrine.Jul 04 19:12
MinceRwhen did i say that? and what does that have to do with anything?Jul 04 19:12
schestowitzthere, I said itJul 04 19:12
squarepegWhat's going on in his mind? Jul 04 19:12
schestowitzSam H saysJul 04 19:12
squarepegYou don't know.Jul 04 19:12
MinceRsquarepeg: why do you evade my questions?Jul 04 19:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada is full of creative people ... http://vimeo.com/38342330 #robocalls #democracy !CDNpoli #denounceHarper #humourJul 04 19:12
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schestowitzif someone thinks that speaking to/eating a pancake will make elvis alive, you call him insaneJul 04 19:13
MinceRsquarepeg: and why do you accuse me of "copping an IRCop attitude"? what does mean? and what makes you think i'm an IRCop here? (i'm not)Jul 04 19:13
schestowitzreplace pancake with crackets and elvis with jesus, you call the person "Catholic"Jul 04 19:13
squarepegMinceR: try to be conversational, not an interrogatorJul 04 19:13
MinceRi wasJul 04 19:14
squarepegI never answer all of anyone's questions who asks in the manner of an interrogation.Jul 04 19:14
schestowitzall I know is that squarepeg gets banned from quite a few channelsJul 04 19:14
MinceRi can see whyJul 04 19:14
squarepegschestowitz: which is why I'm such a good guy to have around here.Jul 04 19:15
MinceRyes, we so need unsubstantiated, unexplained ad hominem attacksJul 04 19:15
squarepegI disagree with people a lot. It feels right.Jul 04 19:15
MinceRthey're so hard to come by, otherwise.Jul 04 19:15
schestowitzwhere would we be without convos about incest? *rolls eyes*Jul 04 19:15
squarepegcome on, it's a fact of life that many smaller tribal groups tolerate marriage among 1st cousinsJul 04 19:16
squarepegschestowitz at least I have fresh ideas, contrary to conservatives and progressivesJul 04 19:16
squarepegIt's by virtue of the fact that I don't like groups of people in agreement that I find these new ideas.Jul 04 19:17
MinceRcome on, it's a fact of life that platypi have venomous spursJul 04 19:17
squarepegA bunch of people agree and it irritates me. Jul 04 19:17
Diablo-D3and lay eggsJul 04 19:17
squarepegEveryone in Western society agrees that Mohammad was a dirty old man for marrying a child bride.Jul 04 19:17
MinceRif i wanted random "fresh ideas" of that sort, i'd just run `strings /dev/urandom`Jul 04 19:17
squarepegI do not agree. Jul 04 19:17
Diablo-D3squarepeg: that isnt the problemJul 04 19:18
Diablo-D3the problem is that people actually think he didJul 04 19:18
Diablo-D3when in actuality his four wives were no more than 10 years apart in ageJul 04 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @jezra I'm not saying that (tho' some might feel that way) - rather just saying, be honest that you host both free and nonfree softwareJul 04 19:19
squarepegAisha was a child brideJul 04 19:20
Diablo-D3squarepeg: theres actually no proof of thatJul 04 19:20
squarepegThe majority of Muslims believe in the Hadiths with this view of the Quran.Jul 04 19:21
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squarepegIt really doesn't matter as long as a majority of Muslims believe that it was so.Jul 04 19:21
Diablo-D3the majority of muslims think its okay to turn their back on GodJul 04 19:21
schestowitzmoderates to defend the exremistsJul 04 19:21
Diablo-D3so I could care less what the majority of them thinkJul 04 19:21
schestowitzto paint the cult as harmlessJul 04 19:21
Diablo-D3I only accept the original text as truthJul 04 19:22
MinceRi don't accept the original text as truthJul 04 19:22
MinceRseeing how it contradicts itself and reality doesn't do that :>Jul 04 19:22
Diablo-D3MinceR: I think you misunderstood what I saidJul 04 19:22
MinceR:>Jul 04 19:22
Diablo-D3you cant edit it.Jul 04 19:22
Diablo-D3you cant insert things into it to support your argumentsJul 04 19:22
schestowitzcan youi burn it?Jul 04 19:22
Diablo-D3religious texts are full of itJul 04 19:22
MinceRyou can quote-mine and mistranslate it insteadJul 04 19:23
Diablo-D3there are no contradictions in the holy textsJul 04 19:23
Diablo-D3only mistakes.Jul 04 19:23
MinceR:>Jul 04 19:23
MinceRyes, religious texts are full of it.Jul 04 19:23
schestowitztranslation errors :-)Jul 04 19:23
schestowitz"Out of context!"Jul 04 19:23
Diablo-D3schestowitz: copy errors, actuallyJul 04 19:23
squarepegAnyway, Religious people can accept things how they are. Jul 04 19:23
Diablo-D3some intentional, some notJul 04 19:23
squarepegSecularists are always whining about fairness and entitlements.Jul 04 19:23
MinceRthey can, but then they stop being religious.Jul 04 19:23
Diablo-D3MinceR: thats not actually trueJul 04 19:24
squarepegAnd progress, the worst concept of all.Jul 04 19:24
Diablo-D3CERN is a Church in my religion.Jul 04 19:24
squarepegKhosrau had 3,000 concubinesJul 04 19:24
MinceRDiablo-D3: like many others, your religion is wrong about this. :>Jul 04 19:24
squarepegThat was power.Jul 04 19:24
schestowitzAren't "Secularists" basically like Atheists who still like some of the customs (folklore)?Jul 04 19:24
MinceRschestowitz: squarepeg refused to clarify his usage of the word "secularist"Jul 04 19:24
Diablo-D3MinceR: but it is a churchJul 04 19:25
MinceRnope.Jul 04 19:25
squarepegMincer, I didn't refuse, I never found the time because so many people were disagreeing with me at once.Jul 04 19:25
schestowitzmy wedding this year will be "secular", we've selected the venue, too. Imagine the horrors of calling it the :"A" words (2 of them)Jul 04 19:25
squarepegFor schestowitz I have the time to clarifyJul 04 19:25
Diablo-D3a monastery, evenJul 04 19:25
Diablo-D3they have tasked themselves with the most holy taskJul 04 19:25
MinceRsquarepeg: thankfully, IRC clients tend to have a buffer.Jul 04 19:25
MinceRalso, they can log to disk.Jul 04 19:25
squarepegI use the word as a synonym for non-religiousJul 04 19:25
schestowitzMinceR: log to GDrive :-)Jul 04 19:26
schestowitz"CLOUD"!Jul 04 19:26
Diablo-D3MinceR: are they not doing Science?Jul 04 19:26
schestowitzwhat's "non-religious"?Jul 04 19:26
MinceRDiablo-D3: who does science in a church?Jul 04 19:26
schestowitzIt's like "Non Stamp Collector" (Youtube user)Jul 04 19:26
Diablo-D3scientists.Jul 04 19:26
squarepegAnyway Atheists are fine as long as they're not pushy to convert everyone else.Jul 04 19:26
MinceRDiablo-D3: nope.Jul 04 19:26
schestowitzI say "sane"Jul 04 19:26
schestowitzor "normal"Jul 04 19:26
Diablo-D3MinceR: I am a member of the Pragmatic Church of Light and Reason.Jul 04 19:27
schestowitzwhile the majority on Earth are still "delusional"Jul 04 19:27
iophkhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-04/htc-mobile-phones-don-t-infringe-apple-patents-u-k-judge-says.htmlJul 04 19:27
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schestowitz"Disturbed"Jul 04 19:27
MinceRsquarepeg: meanwhile religious zealots are fine even if they proselytize?Jul 04 19:27
schestowitz"Confused"Jul 04 19:27
schestowitz"Deceived"Jul 04 19:27
schestowitz"Exploited"Jul 04 19:27
Diablo-D3CERN is a holy site.Jul 04 19:27
schestowitzthe mecca of sciennce LOLJul 04 19:27
MinceRDiablo-D3: most of those scientists aren't, thoughJul 04 19:27
squarepegI don't like anyone to get too pushy about their beliefs.Jul 04 19:27
Diablo-D3MinceR: they are, even if they dont recognize itJul 04 19:27
MinceRsquarepeg: that's not what you said earlier.Jul 04 19:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] European Parliament Rejection Puts #ACTA Future In Doubt - http://bit.ly/M69S21 some good quotes hereJul 04 19:27
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*schestowitz spins his computer desk to point at SwitzerlandJul 04 19:27
squarepegquote?Jul 04 19:27
squarepegMinceR: I remember you as an argumentative guy.Jul 04 19:28
MinceR200524 < squarepeg> If secular people weren't so quick to embrace dirty science, I wouldn't have to praise religious people so much. Jul 04 19:28
schestowitz[19:27] <squarepeg> I don't like anyone to get too pushy about their beliefs.Jul 04 19:28
MinceR201016 < squarepeg> The reason I'm standing up for the religious folks is because aggressive secularists are encroaching so rapidly.Jul 04 19:28
schestowitzright. Beliefs.. like faithJul 04 19:28
squarepegMinceR: how is that a contradiction from what I said?Jul 04 19:28
schestowitzThey can get pushy all they want about factsJul 04 19:28
Diablo-D3MinceR: God created the Universe, it is our job to understand it.Jul 04 19:28
MinceRsquarepeg: you support religion against non-religion.Jul 04 19:28
Diablo-D3It is the 0th Commandment.Jul 04 19:28
schestowitzit's the "purpose of life"Jul 04 19:29
squarepegschestowitz: religioius people can reconcile belief with reality by reinterpreting scripture as allegorical.Jul 04 19:29
MinceRsquarepeg: the only way that can work, by definition, is if that they get pushy about their religious beliefesJul 04 19:29
schestowitzFox nonsense: "what is the purpose then?" "Where does morality come from?"Jul 04 19:29
MinceRDiablo-D3: where's the proof?Jul 04 19:29
squarepegMinceR: with regards to the rapid uptake of dirty science by the Godless, yes I do support the faithful over them.Jul 04 19:29
MinceRDiablo-D3: what does this hypothesis help explain, what predictions does it make, how can it be falsified?Jul 04 19:29
schestowitzsquarepeg: BSJul 04 19:29
schestowitzthe "it's a metaphor" apologism is disgustingJul 04 19:30
MinceRsquarepeg: what do you mean by "dirty science"? is it a smear against science as a whole?Jul 04 19:30
schestowitzit doesn't compensate for the account of mass murder of children, eitherJul 04 19:30
squarepegschestowitz: what do you expect them to do on holidays and in their temples? Godless raves?Jul 04 19:30
schestowitzand putting a knife to a baby's cock is nothing "allegorical"Jul 04 19:30
schestowitzsquarepeg: orgiesJul 04 19:31
schestowitz(j/k/)Jul 04 19:31
Diablo-D3MinceR: The proof is Science can exist.Jul 04 19:31
MinceRwell, there's one church that was converted to a useful functionJul 04 19:31
MinceRit became a book storeJul 04 19:31
squarepegschestowitz: they put a little ring inside the foreskin, right? Jul 04 19:31
schestowitzwalmart tooJul 04 19:31
MinceRDiablo-D3: not convincing at all.Jul 04 19:31
schestowitzI saw it today in diasporaJul 04 19:31
squarepegMinceR: a smear against science as a whole?Jul 04 19:32
squarepegRidiculousJul 04 19:32
Diablo-D3MinceR: Then please, stop believing in Science, we don't need your close minded kindJul 04 19:32
squarepegwhy would I do that?Jul 04 19:32
Diablo-D3go back to eating babies or whatever Catholics doJul 04 19:32
MinceRsquarepeg: i don't know, your usage of words is unclear.Jul 04 19:32
schestowitzsquarepeg: they do what desert barbarians wrote in Aramaic in some friggin' sheetJul 04 19:32
MinceRsquarepeg: which is why i asked what you mean by it.Jul 04 19:32
squarepegMinceR: you're suspiciousJul 04 19:32
MinceRoohJul 04 19:32
squarepegschestowitz: so what? It's natural. Jul 04 19:32
MinceRDiablo-D3: you seem to be confused about how science worksJul 04 19:33
schestowitzwhat is?Jul 04 19:33
schestowitz"natural"Jul 04 19:33
schestowitzSame lousy defence for /"God hates fags"Jul 04 19:33
squarepegLook, I accept all religions and even cults which are stable enough to have three generations of believers.Jul 04 19:33
squarepegAnd I accept atheists too.Jul 04 19:33
MinceRyou just choose to oppose the latterJul 04 19:33
schestowitzthey're not a groupJul 04 19:33
schestowitzAtheists is not a reliousJul 04 19:33
MinceRbecause of something you still haven't explained what you mean by.Jul 04 19:34
schestowitzIt's a state of sanity, like accpeting the earth is an elliptic ballJul 04 19:34
squarepegschestowitz: I'm talking about people. I'm not going to write off a big group of people based on religious or anti-religious bigotry.Jul 04 19:34
MinceRif atheism is a religion, then not smoking is a habit and not collecting stamps is a hobby. :>Jul 04 19:34
MinceRoh, and bald is a hair colorl.Jul 04 19:34
schestowitzwhat "anti-religious"Jul 04 19:34
MinceRs/rl/r/Jul 04 19:34
schestowitzpeople are not defined by negativesJul 04 19:34
squarepegYou can be an atheist and still follow a messiahJul 04 19:35
schestowitzthere's realuttJul 04 19:35
Diablo-D3MinceR: not at all, you clearly have turned your back in science if you ask wheres the proof that science existsJul 04 19:35
MinceRsquarepeg: you seem to already have written off a big group of people based on your religious bigotry.Jul 04 19:35
squarepegyou can believe one man was the wisest and study his words with devotion.Jul 04 19:35
MinceRDiablo-D3: that's not the proof i asked of.Jul 04 19:35
schestowitzand then there a manipulative factions that distort it and recruit useful idiotsJul 04 19:35
MinceRDiablo-D3: i asked for the proof that your "god" exists.Jul 04 19:35
schestowitzscientology is a good exampleJul 04 19:35
squarepegMinceR: I'm not saying anyone has to believe anything. I'm arguing against those who do.Jul 04 19:35
squarepegAtheists can be devotees of a messiah or prophet. Jul 04 19:36
Diablo-D3MinceR: Are you here? Then God exists.Jul 04 19:36
Diablo-D3Now, its quite entirely possible you're not hereJul 04 19:36
MinceRsquarepeg: you said you're supporting religious people against non-religious ones because you believe the latter are aggressively encroaching (despite evidence pointing to the opposite)Jul 04 19:36
Diablo-D3Which then I'm wrong, God doesn't existJul 04 19:36
schestowitz[19:36] <squarepeg> Atheists can be devotees of a messiah or prophet. Jul 04 19:36
schestowitztheists have dietiesJul 04 19:36
squarepegAtheists can even believe in a scientific concept of god as a primal force.Jul 04 19:36
MinceRDiablo-D3: non sequitur.Jul 04 19:36
schestowitzdeitiesJul 04 19:36
squarepegMinceR: you interpreted what you interpreted.Jul 04 19:37
Diablo-D3MinceR: not at all.Jul 04 19:37
squarepegNot my problem to solve the internal conflict you imagined.Jul 04 19:37
schestowitzprophets are proof against "god"Jul 04 19:37
Diablo-D3MinceR: God is everything.Jul 04 19:37
schestowitzPeople never see the invisible beingJul 04 19:37
MinceRDiablo-D3: what is that definition good for?Jul 04 19:37
schestowitzso they choose people to call "messenger of God" or /"Son of God"Jul 04 19:37
squarepegwhat do they mean by God?Jul 04 19:37
schestowitzyou tell meJul 04 19:38
Diablo-D3MinceR: What other definition would there be? The Bible is quite clear what God is.Jul 04 19:38
squarepegIf you can't scientifically vet their concept for God, you can't say they're wrong.Jul 04 19:38
schestowitzI have a god in my frying panJul 04 19:38
MinceRDiablo-D3: not at all.Jul 04 19:38
schestowitzI have proof for its existenceJul 04 19:38
MinceRDiablo-D3: well, i guess in a wayJul 04 19:38
schestowitzI need to wash it down the sinkJul 04 19:38
squarepegSome people will say something which is obviously silly and unscientific.Jul 04 19:38
schestowitzIOW, they speak of faithJul 04 19:39
squarepegThey can be proven wrong, objectively. Thus, science maintains a standard.Jul 04 19:39
MinceRDiablo-D3: according to the bible, "god" is someone for whom the both of the following are true: 1) he created non-human animals before female humans. 2) he created female humans before non-human animals.Jul 04 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] VICTORY: European Parliament rejects #ACTA by a huge majority. Big win for Internet users around the world! https://eff.org/r.a7eMJul 04 19:39
MinceRthe only set of the members of which this is true is the empty setJul 04 19:39
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Diablo-D3MinceR: except Genesis does not say that.Jul 04 19:39
MinceRexcept it doesJul 04 19:39
Diablo-D3Except it doesn't.Jul 04 19:39
MinceRgoto 10Jul 04 19:40
squarepegMinceR: "God" is defined by more than one scripture. There is also the Greek Pantheon and Norse Gods.Jul 04 19:40
Diablo-D3Go read it in hebrew or aramic and try again.Jul 04 19:40
MinceRsquarepeg: that is not the source Diablo-D3 referencedJul 04 19:40
squarepegokJul 04 19:40
MinceRsquarepeg: and yes, i'm aware that there are many possible gods that may existJul 04 19:40
schestowitzMinceR: millions of years down the line, if the chain is unbroken, will out descendants will still be worthy of the label "human"?Jul 04 19:40
MinceRsquarepeg: it's just that the abrahamic god is not one of them, having a definition that contradicts itself.Jul 04 19:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1769844Jul 04 19:40
TechrightsBot-tr@ya@diasp.org: ... diz for sure is #sfw #LOLJul 04 19:40
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squarepegAnyway, a person can be a devotee of Jesus Christ, and an unwavering practicioner of scientific method.Jul 04 19:40
MinceRschestowitz: do you expect religious people to understand that? :>Jul 04 19:41
MinceRsquarepeg: yes, but they will not be a typical christianJul 04 19:41
squarepegAnd interpret all scripture through a rigorous scientific perspective.Jul 04 19:41
Diablo-D3squarepeg: yes, which is not conflicting at allJul 04 19:41
MinceRsquarepeg: they will not consider the bible literal and infallible.Jul 04 19:41
squarepegMinceR: yes, they will not be a typical Christian. Jul 04 19:41
Diablo-D3Jesus Christ preached logic and understanding.Jul 04 19:41
MinceRDiablo-D3: yes, like when he cursed the fig tree.Jul 04 19:41
MinceRvery logicalJul 04 19:41
squarepegLikewise with Mohammed. Jul 04 19:41
MinceRalso very understanding.Jul 04 19:41
Diablo-D3MinceR: I dunno, I'd curse a fig tree too, nasty shitJul 04 19:42
MinceRDiablo-D3: when it does not bear fruit because it's not in season?Jul 04 19:42
schestowitz[19:41] <MinceR> schestowitz: do you expect religious people to understand that? :>Jul 04 19:42
schestowitzI don't expect much for themJul 04 19:42
MinceR:>Jul 04 19:42
Diablo-D3MinceR: Yes, I would curse it for that too.Jul 04 19:42
schestowitzI'm not sure they think like us... I'm not even sure we're the same species :-)Jul 04 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Chinese-built ghost town in Angola - the first of many to come? - http://bit.ly/RdnD2K whoa, spookyJul 04 19:42
MinceRDiablo-D3: then you're illogical as well. :>Jul 04 19:42
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Diablo-D3MinceR: not at all, it just means I need to take a trip to the local store and buy whatever fruit it was imported from another countryJul 04 19:43
MinceRand if your curse has the same power as jesus', then also unnecessarily destructive.Jul 04 19:43
squarepegIf smart people abandon their religion, you leave it to those who are less educated to carry on, and they will. Jul 04 19:43
schestowitzMinceR: why the fig lead?Jul 04 19:43
MinceRschestowitz: a good example of jesus being illogical and kind of a dick.Jul 04 19:43
schestowitzWho is he hiding his dick from, the only woman alive? The snake on the ground?Jul 04 19:43
MinceRnot that fig.Jul 04 19:43
schestowitzMaybe he didn't want to show eve the other snakeJul 04 19:43
squarepegThere isn't any good reason to brand all religious people as fundamentally insane and seek to abolish religion. That's nonsense.Jul 04 19:43
Diablo-D3schestowitz: read it in the original hebrew, it makes more senseJul 04 19:43
squarepegMarxist nonsense.Jul 04 19:43
Diablo-D3the problem with most people is they've never read the bibleJul 04 19:44
Diablo-D3they will claim to the end of their days that they have, when they have notJul 04 19:44
MinceRschestowitz: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/figs.htmlJul 04 19:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What the Bible says about figs .::. Size~: 7.3 KBJul 04 19:44
squarepegThere needs to be a certain amount of Atheists. But not too many.Jul 04 19:44
schestowitza best selling boiok... to keep in the dresser for luckJul 04 19:45
Diablo-D3MinceR: that page is kinda shittyJul 04 19:45
squarepegI wouldn't want to see the cultural destruction of a complete Atheist takeover.Jul 04 19:45
Diablo-D3its quoting the KJVJul 04 19:45
MinceRDiablo-D3: which usian christians tend to do too.Jul 04 19:45
Diablo-D3yes, which makes them not christiansJul 04 19:45
Diablo-D3KJV is not a bibleJul 04 19:45
schestowitzsquarepeg: pagan rituals can carry onJul 04 19:45
Diablo-D3it is a work of fiction, and it is against GodJul 04 19:45
MinceRwhat is it, then?Jul 04 19:45
schestowitzthey're funJul 04 19:45
MinceRoh, and which bible is not a work of fiction?Jul 04 19:45
schestowitzwe'll ust label them appropriatelyJul 04 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Fedora 17 custom thumbdrive step-by-step http://goo.gl/gnwwc #tips #gnulinuxJul 04 19:46
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schestowitzand our kids will have longer dicks, too /sarcasmJul 04 19:46
MinceRand which bible does not depict the christian god as a rather shady person?Jul 04 19:46
Diablo-D3MinceR: Most people simply do not understand the BibleJul 04 19:46
MinceR(someone who promotes slavery, wants to oppress women, commands you to love him and fear him at the same time, etc.)Jul 04 19:46
schestowitzthey let Pat Roberton interpret it for themJul 04 19:46
schestowitz*sonJul 04 19:47
Diablo-D3it does not promote slaveryJul 04 19:47
MinceRexcept it doesJul 04 19:47
Diablo-D3it clearly states you should avoid such peopleJul 04 19:47
schestowitzit doesJul 04 19:47
MinceRhttp://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/slavery.htmlJul 04 19:47
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Diablo-D3more of that wonderful kjv.Jul 04 19:47
MinceRThy bond-men and thy bond-maids which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you: of them shall ye buy bond-men and bond-maids. Moreover, of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land. And they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession,Jul 04 19:48
Diablo-D3MinceR: it is a violation of the ten commandmentsJul 04 19:48
MinceRok, let's see the other translations.Jul 04 19:48
Diablo-D3ergo wrong.Jul 04 19:48
squarepegMinceR: some people interpret "bond" differently.Jul 04 19:48
MinceRhttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+25%3A44-46&version=NIVJul 04 19:48
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squarepegSome people are thinking of servants Jul 04 19:48
MinceRhttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+25%3A44-46&version=NASBJul 04 19:48
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MinceRhttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+25%3A44-46&version=NLTJul 04 19:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT - “However, you may purchase male and - Bible Gateway .::. Size~: 57.75 KBJul 04 19:49
Diablo-D3MinceR: yes, and why are you bothering to link that?Jul 04 19:49
MinceRhttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+25%3A44-46&version=ESVJul 04 19:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Leviticus 25:44-46 ESV - As for your male and female slaves whom - Bible Gateway .::. Size~: 59.96 KBJul 04 19:49
squarepegOr another kind of bond. It's not quite clear.Jul 04 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA: Wir haben das Unmögliche möglich gemacht! - http://bit.ly/N93z0d "Vor wenigen Monaten hätten wir das nicht für möglich gehalten" yupJul 04 19:49
MinceRsomehow not only the KJV approves of slaveryJul 04 19:49
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Diablo-D3MinceR: these rules applied to the Israelites, of which have all been destroyed.Jul 04 19:49
Diablo-D3The Biblical nation of Israel is long gone.Jul 04 19:49
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MinceRDiablo-D3: jesus said he did not abolish the law.Jul 04 19:49
Diablo-D3no, because it was done before himJul 04 19:50
squarepegAnyway, Praise Jesus. Praise Mohammed. Jul 04 19:50
MinceRand the jews did not become extinct either.Jul 04 19:50
Diablo-D3Not all Jews are IsraelitesJul 04 19:50
squarepegEven if you are an atheist.Jul 04 19:50
Diablo-D3MinceR: what you are claiming is US History book is a lie because we had slaves.Jul 04 19:50
MinceRDiablo-D3: what?Jul 04 19:50
Diablo-D3That is revisionist history, and thus wrong.Jul 04 19:50
Diablo-D3MinceR: In Israel, this _was_ legalJul 04 19:51
MinceRsquarepeg: i see nothing praiseworthy about them, even if assuming that they did exist.Jul 04 19:51
Diablo-D3even though it was against GodJul 04 19:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] http://ur1.ca/9q4ubJul 04 19:51
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Diablo-D3it is included in the Bible as a historical lesson.Jul 04 19:51
MinceRDiablo-D3: where does it say that?Jul 04 19:51
squarepegReally, nothing praiseworthy at all?Jul 04 19:51
MinceRreally.Jul 04 19:51
squarepegMinceR: you think you're a better man?Jul 04 19:51
MinceRyes, i doJul 04 19:51
Diablo-D3MinceR: Non-Israelites do not have to follow these laws, and it is implied we should not.Jul 04 19:51
squarepegfiguresJul 04 19:51
Diablo-D3I am not an Israelite.Jul 04 19:51
MinceRDiablo-D3: citation needed.Jul 04 19:52
Diablo-D3Thus, I do not follow those laws.Jul 04 19:52
MinceRhttp://bible.cc/1_peter/2-18.htmJul 04 19:52
MinceRthat's from the new testamentJul 04 19:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 1 Peter 2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. .::. Size~: 33.74 KBJul 04 19:52
MinceRstill approving of slavery.Jul 04 19:52
squarepegYeah, it wasn't written in English.Jul 04 19:52
Diablo-D3Okay, good for it. That does not apply to me.Jul 04 19:52
Diablo-D3I am not an Israelite.Jul 04 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thank you #SOPA, thank you #ACTA - http://bit.ly/M6bPvl great analysis of what happened, what it meansJul 04 19:52
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squarepegRead that again in Aramaic.Jul 04 19:52
MinceRthe new testament is not about israelites.Jul 04 19:53
MinceRi don't speak aramaic.Jul 04 19:53
MinceRand i'm not going to learn it for a piece of badly written fiction.Jul 04 19:53
squarepegAlright then you know what the English translation says.Jul 04 19:53
squarepegThen don't be obsessed by it. Jul 04 19:53
Diablo-D3MinceR: except the new testament WAS about the israelitesJul 04 19:54
Diablo-D3Just because a country has fallen does not mean the people cease to existJul 04 19:55
MinceRsquarepeg: if you think all these english translations are wrong and you know aramaic better than these people, then go ahead and write your own translationJul 04 19:55
MinceRand have other aramaic speakers review itJul 04 19:55
MinceRDiablo-D3: so which part of the bible applies at all?Jul 04 19:55
squarepegMinceR: Words can have subtle meaning. It's pointless to bash religion. Jul 04 19:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google shows tools for an accessible web - http://bit.ly/PewcNt important but neglected areaJul 04 19:56
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MinceRDiablo-D3: or are you trying to claim that it's infallibly true and false at the same time?Jul 04 19:56
squarepegA wise Buddhist from Korea would always tell his followers to keep their original religion.Jul 04 19:56
Diablo-D3MinceR: what part of history applies to us?Jul 04 19:56
MinceRsquarepeg: if you religious people can't even explain your views clearly, in written form, then why should anyone listen?Jul 04 19:56
Diablo-D3They did have slaves, this is not false.Jul 04 19:56
squarepegThat is, if they had a religion, prior to meeting him.Jul 04 19:57
Diablo-D3They had laws concerning it, this is not false.Jul 04 19:57
MinceRDiablo-D3: all part of it that is in our past light cone?Jul 04 19:57
squarepegMinceR: I'm neither religious nor am I non-religious.Jul 04 19:57
Diablo-D3God prohibited it, this is not false.Jul 04 19:57
MinceRsquarepeg: you're a religion apologist.Jul 04 19:57
squarepegYou don't have to listen.Jul 04 19:57
Diablo-D3These are not conflicting statements.Jul 04 19:57
MinceRDiablo-D3: citation needed on god prohibiting it.Jul 04 19:57
squarepegActually, I'm not apologizing.Jul 04 19:57
Diablo-D3MinceR: We only have _one_ master.Jul 04 19:57
MinceRsquarepeg: actually you are.Jul 04 19:58
MinceRDiablo-D3: citation needed.Jul 04 19:58
MinceRDiablo-D3: which book, which chapter, etc.Jul 04 19:58
squarepegLook apology up in the dictionary.Jul 04 19:58
MinceRDiablo-D3: and why that applies in a way all the rest does not.Jul 04 19:58
squarepegI'm not apologizing at all. I'm unapologetic.Jul 04 19:58
Diablo-D3"Sorry guys, but shes married: to science." -- Johnson 1:21Jul 04 19:58
MinceRsquarepeg: no uJul 04 19:58
MinceRsquarepeg: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/apologistJul 04 19:58
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squarepegnopeJul 04 19:59
MinceRDiablo-D3: no such book in the bible.Jul 04 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Great minute-by-minute description of what happened in European Parliament today - http://bit.ly/MXO4rM #ACTAJul 04 19:59
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squarepegGod bless us all. Especially MinceRJul 04 19:59
*Diablo-D3 just stares at MinceR Jul 04 19:59
MinceRbut if you prefer the term "religion-pushing zealot", i can substitute that.Jul 04 19:59
squarepegI do prefer that.Jul 04 20:00
MinceRokJul 04 20:00
squarepegExcept that I'm not pushing any particular religion. Jul 04 20:00
MinceRirrelevant.Jul 04 20:00
squarepegIt's quite relevant.Jul 04 20:00
squarepegI don't care if you choose Hinduism or Zoroastrianism. Jul 04 20:00
MinceRbut you do care if i choose agnosticism or atheismJul 04 20:00
squarepegBut this is only for you Mincer. Jul 04 20:01
squarepegAtheists who are not as combative as you can remain atheists.Jul 04 20:01
MinceRbecause in your world, everyone must have superstitions and delusions.Jul 04 20:01
squarepegNope just you Mincer.Jul 04 20:01
MinceRoh, so now i'm combative?Jul 04 20:01
Diablo-D3MinceR: yupJul 04 20:01
squarepegyes you areJul 04 20:01
Diablo-D3you're being trolled and you cant stand itJul 04 20:01
MinceRanyone who dares defend himself against the glorious squarepeg is combative!Jul 04 20:01
MinceRall must lay down and accept delusion into their minds!Jul 04 20:01
squarepegno, just you mincerJul 04 20:02
MinceRdoesn't matter which, it just has to be delusionJul 04 20:02
squarepegI'll tell you a funny story about the Korean BuddhistJul 04 20:02
squarepegThere was a guy with long hair among his audienceJul 04 20:03
squarepegHe asked what does your hair mean to you?Jul 04 20:03
squarepegThe long-haired guy explained that it symbolized his defiance of authority and his integrity as a revolutionaryJul 04 20:04
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squarepegHe told the long haired guy he was attached to his hairJul 04 20:04
MinceRwell yes, by the follicles.Jul 04 20:04
MinceR:>Jul 04 20:04
squarepegAnd the only way to be free of attachments was to cut his hairJul 04 20:04
squarepegThe guy argued and argued in defense of his hairJul 04 20:04
squarepegBut eventually he gave up and agreed to cut his hair so he could be free of attachments as a Zen BuddhistJul 04 20:05
iophkhttp://www.edge-online.com/news/microsofts-xbox-division-loses-229-millionJul 04 20:05
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squarepegAs soon as he agreed, Seung Sahn told him it was no longer necessary to cut his hair.Jul 04 20:05
iophkWill the phone be kept alive in the same way as long?Jul 04 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @stefroelandt @Choisissez okayJul 04 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: We have a stayer #iSoc12 /cc @choisissez http://t.co/ye1TdpLAJul 04 20:06
MinceRiophk: probably.Jul 04 20:06
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MinceRjust like bìngJul 04 20:06
DaemonFCdon't pray in my school and I won't think in your churchJul 04 20:06
MinceRlolJul 04 20:06
squarepegIt's okay if people pray in school. They should just call for a few minutes silence in any case.Jul 04 20:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @evan creative process tends to be pretty universal ... and being a creative @majnoona is more likely to understand :)Jul 04 20:07
MinceRthe bible tells them not to flaunt their religionJul 04 20:08
squarepegJust don't ask people to pray to one deity or another in Public school.Jul 04 20:08
MinceRso they should pray in privacy, not in the school.Jul 04 20:08
squarepegNo, praying in school is not offensive, and neither is thinking in church.Jul 04 20:08
MinceRotherwise, i don't really care so long as they don't make much of a show of it, don't force it on others and don't interfere with others.Jul 04 20:08
squarepegIt's the calling to pray to a specific deity in publich school which is not right.Jul 04 20:08
MinceRit's the calling to pray at all which is not rightJul 04 20:09
MinceRyes, i know that to you "freedom of religion" means "you must have at least one religion", but that's not what it means.Jul 04 20:09
squarepegonly you mincerJul 04 20:09
MinceRyes, again with the ad hominem.Jul 04 20:10
squarepegGuess who I look like?Jul 04 20:10
MinceRa fundie?Jul 04 20:11
squarepegI'm bald like Steve BalmerJul 04 20:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk from here it seems beyond personalities your 2 parties indistinguishable; Obama more effectively accomplishes George W's agenda.Jul 04 20:11
squarepegAnd I'm big too, like Steve Balmer.Jul 04 20:11
MinceRso?Jul 04 20:11
DaemonFCI don't care if people want to believe something they can't proveJul 04 20:11
DaemonFCwhat I do care is when they put the burden on me  to disprove the things they can't proveJul 04 20:11
MinceRgood point.Jul 04 20:12
DaemonFC*care aboutJul 04 20:12
MinceRthere's another issue with squarepeg's argumentJul 04 20:12
MinceRtechnically, not all religions have to involve prayingJul 04 20:12
DaemonFC"If you could prove what you were saying was true, we wouldn't be having this discussion."Jul 04 20:12
MinceRso a call for prayer is not only bigotry against non-religious people, but against people with such religions as well.Jul 04 20:13
DaemonFCreligion is a belief in something you can't proveJul 04 20:13
DaemonFCand by "can't prove", I mean you never will be able toJul 04 20:13
MinceRsquarepeg: the bigger they are, the harder they fall.Jul 04 20:14
DaemonFCand again, that's fine with me as long as you don't try dragging me into your polygamous child fucking cultJul 04 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Pretty much the same as here (Liberal Party introduced 1st version of !C11 Conservative Party passed it ~ #samesame)Jul 04 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What's going on at El Reg? It takes them till 16:26 to come up with this weird and badly written article on ACTA? Hint... http://b1t.it/bIpNJul 04 20:14
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DaemonFCMittens is a part of that cultJul 04 20:14
MinceR:>Jul 04 20:15
DaemonFCthough he's with the main branch which officially frowns on polygamy and child fuckingJul 04 20:15
squarepeghttp://static5.businessinsider.com/~~/f?id=4820a015796c7a2300f553f9Jul 04 20:15
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MinceRyes, disgustingJul 04 20:15
squarepeg:PJul 04 20:16
DaemonFCI don't need an ethics lesson from a guy who strapped the family dog to the roof of his carJul 04 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk If I was there, I'd look to see what @lessig is up to; last I heard he was investigating how to fix the root of US democracy deficitJul 04 20:17
squarepegmarriage to child bridesJul 04 20:18
squarepegshould be legal instead of gay marriageJul 04 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Fill out this simple form & @MuckRockNews will send a public records request about drones to your local police agency https://eff.org/r.2aeQJul 04 20:19
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squarepegI'd much rather be married to a child bride than another man!Jul 04 20:20
squarepeglolJul 04 20:20
DaemonFCyou never hear about the FBI arresting consenting adults for having consensual sexJul 04 20:20
squarepegFor that matter, a child bride could beat most women. Jul 04 20:20
DaemonFCor for that matter, the states, thanks to TexasJul 04 20:20
DaemonFCThanks Texas!Jul 04 20:21
squarepegToo bad about what they did to David Koresh and his congregation.Jul 04 20:21
DaemonFCno it's notJul 04 20:21
squarepegIt was that dyke from the DOJ who dispatched them.Jul 04 20:21
DaemonFCthe only shame there is that they didn't kill all of themJul 04 20:21
squarepegKoresh and his whole congregation were killed.Jul 04 20:21
squarepegonly a few escaped. A lot of children died.Jul 04 20:21
DaemonFCa few too many escapedJul 04 20:22
DaemonFCof course I'd be willing to retract that if anyone can show me that they went to a deprogrammer and got betterJul 04 20:22
squarepegDaemonFC: you're crazy.Jul 04 20:22
DaemonFCthe world needs less stupid peopleJul 04 20:23
DaemonFCthe Davidian compound incident was a good startJul 04 20:23
squarepegThen do the world a favor and be one less.Jul 04 20:23
DaemonFCReno should have firebombed the Moron Temple in Salt Lake CityJul 04 20:23
squarepegI bet you're jealous of David KoreshJul 04 20:23
squarepegWow, you're like a Nazi.Jul 04 20:24
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MinceRreally?Jul 04 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk considering what @lessig came up with to fix !copyright I'd be hopeful ;)Jul 04 20:24
squarepegWho would you kill after the Branch Davidians and the Mormons? Baptists? Catholics? Jews ultimately?Jul 04 20:24
DaemonFCno, just along the wayJul 04 20:24
DaemonFCB-)Jul 04 20:24
squarepegWho would DaemonFC kill? Those who have different beliefs.Jul 04 20:25
MinceRwho would squarepeg kill? those who lack unsubstantiated beliefs.Jul 04 20:25
DaemonFCno, I wouldn't kill themJul 04 20:25
DaemonFCI'm just not sad that they're goneJul 04 20:25
squarepeg<DaemonFC> the only shame there is that they didn't kill all of themJul 04 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music Labels Prepare Action To Block Major BitTorrent Sites - http://bit.ly/M6ALo8 no surprise, sadlyJul 04 20:26
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squarepeg< DaemonFC> Reno should have firebombed the Moron Temple in Salt Lake CityJul 04 20:26
DaemonFCI was being sarcastic (only slightly)Jul 04 20:26
squarepegI wonder if you're jealous of a straight man with a big familyJul 04 20:26
DaemonFCMore kittens, less Mittens!Jul 04 20:27
squarepegand many young wivesJul 04 20:27
DaemonFChttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18692830Jul 04 20:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK judge says HTC phones don't infringe Apple patents - http://bit.ly/MXSX3V " 3 of the patents asserted by Apple in the case are invalid"Jul 04 20:29
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scientesDaemonFC, yesJul 04 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] reading up on using an Arduino as ISP to upgrade my Sanguinololu to an ATmega 1284p, Marlin, LCD and rotary encoder. Plan for the weekend.Jul 04 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is glynmoody from identi.ca with 65 dents!Jul 04 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Music: The Internet’s Original Sin - http://bit.ly/L0yP2A "abundance is the signal characteristic of all media"; yupJul 04 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] hello TRIBLER! RT @glynmoody: Music Labels Prepare Action To Block Major BitTorrent Sites - http://bit.ly/M6ALo8 no surprise, sadlyJul 04 21:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Great minute-by-minute description of what happened in European Parliament today - http://bit.ly/MXO4rM #ACTAJul 04 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Wow ♻ @PoliticosRKD TheRecord - Harper needs to get grip on spending priorities http://ur1.ca/9q563 #transitisbetterthanjets #wrawesomeJul 04 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] MT ♻ @whistlewright …in the US a plurality of votes in 12 states determines outcome of a presidential election...less than 2% decide for allJul 04 21:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] whistlewright oops.Jul 04 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] MT ♻ @whistlewright …in US a plurality of votes in 12 states determines outcome of a presidential election...less than 12% decide for allJul 04 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] It's the final day of the D(EFF)CONtest and for the Script Kitty shirt online. Cheers for the freedom to innovate! https://eff.org/r.1aehJul 04 21:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @laquadrature: [en][Wired] Acta officially dead after being rejected by European Parliament lqdn.fr/5895Jul 04 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I can understand that first-past-the-post seemed reasonable in the 19th century, but not in the 21st Century !CDNpoliJul 04 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Red Hat http://ur1.ca/9q59tJul 04 21:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] One week left to vote for your favorite 'Why Open Education Matters' video - http://whyopenedmatters.org/videos/Jul 04 21:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @creativecommons RT @laquadrature: [en][Wired] Acta officially dead after being rejected by European Parliament lqdn.fr/5895Jul 04 21:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk good, that means i may still have marbles :)Jul 04 21:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Great minute-by-minute description of what happened in European Parliament today - http://bit.ly/MXO4rM #ACTAJul 04 21:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Comedian Eric Sykes dies aged 89 http://goo.gl/EdgRU #GoonsJul 04 21:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Acta: Controversial anti-piracy agreement rejected by EU http://goo.gl/QOdnv cue a rename & resubmit by the rightsholdersJul 04 21:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Libor scandal lays New Labour's failings bare http://is.gd/QBFzFtJul 04 21:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #GlaxoSmithKline's bribes are evidence that Big Pharma isn't working http://is.gd/WwEMdoJul 04 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb Acta: Controversial anti-piracy agreement rejected by EU http://goo.gl/QOdnv cue a rename & resubmit by the rightsholdersJul 04 21:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] enjoy sweet unpoetic dreams, @expatpaul ;DJul 04 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Timeless Handmade Elegance from Germany: Robert Klaas Monolith - YouTube http://goo.gl/yRc3F #knives #edcJul 04 21:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @lessig: An Independence Day post about a detained free Syrian soul: Please help #FREEBASSEL tmblr.co/Z5y-SyOgcwAMJul 04 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gomerx No. That's not what I said at all. Debian chooses to allow people to use non-free if they want. That's freedom to me.Jul 04 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Another Spanking for #Apple From Judge Posner http://is.gd/PYzXYTJul 04 21:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] French Tax Inspectors Search Microsoft Offices in Dawn Raid http://goo.gl/WgkOyJul 04 21:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ha! ♻ @jwildeboer: stuck in the toilet for 3 days as the door has a "slide to unlock" thingy. And as I do not want to get sued by Apple ...Jul 04 21:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] European Parliament Rejects #ACTA Copyright Treaty by 478 Votes to 39 http://goo.gl/bcbxP wonder who the 39 traitors to the people areJul 04 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Open for voting: "Why Open Education Matters" video competition http://is.gd/lRlDnFJul 04 21:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] TV Analyst: Kids Love #Netflix, And #Disney Should Break Them Of That Nasty Habit http://is.gd/McTElZJul 04 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb French Tax Inspectors Search Microsoft Offices in Dawn Raid http://goo.gl/WgkOyJul 04 21:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @creativecommons RT @lessig: An Independence Day post about a detained free Syrian soul: Please help #FREEBASSEL tmblr.co/Z5y-SyOgcwAMJul 04 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Dear #Apple, by keeping the #Nexus away from consumers, you’re just making them want it more http://goo.gl/rvc23Jul 04 21:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The uncomfortable truth behind the #Journatic byline scandal http://goo.gl/qmiw3Jul 04 22:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Strategy Behind the U.S. Call For a Fair Use Provision in the #TPP http://goo.gl/duuWiJul 04 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Independence Day: #freebassel http://ur1.ca/9lb2nJul 04 22:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 This is also true in US. On #IndependenceDay, let us resolve to fix this: http://is.gd/D1GeORJul 04 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Three #NSA Whistleblowers Back #EFF's Lawsuit Over Government's Massive Spying Program | EFF http://goo.gl/hfmjt #usa #policestateJul 04 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: RT @MarietjeD66 *you may stop sending anti-#ACTA emails now, thank you* >>start sending *thank you* emails, people...Jul 04 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @jwildeboer: There will be "sons of ACTA". We must stay alert. But today we party! Democracy wins!Jul 04 22:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] CDs Are Not Forever: The Truth About CD/DVD Longevity, “Mold” & “Rot” http://goo.gl/sjMmh #mediaJul 04 22:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Spanking for Apple From Judge Posner - http://bit.ly/KUcrTQ nicely doneJul 04 22:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cyberkiller: "on July 4, #Europe celebrates a day of independence from American special interests." great quote from http://ur1.ca/9q2ozJul 04 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody RT @MarietjeD66 *you may stop sending anti-#ACTA emails now, thank you* >>start sending *thank you* emails, people...Jul 04 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jwildeboer There will be "sons of ACTA". We must stay alert. But today we party! Democracy wins! Jul 04 22:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ovigia Three #NSA Whistleblowers Back #EFF's Lawsuit Over Government's Massive Spying Program | EFF http://goo.gl/hfmjt #usa #police ...Jul 04 22:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @mmn are you the feds? No ma'am we're musicians #bluesbrothersJul 04 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb The Strategy Behind the U.S. Call For a Fair Use Provision in the #TPP http://goo.gl/duuWiJul 04 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 @gomerx As long as some non-free software is necessary to use one's computer, it should be available in add-on repos. No ...Jul 04 22:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Michael Geist - The Strategy Behind the U.S. Call For a Fair Use Provision in the TPP .::. Size~: 57.75 KBJul 04 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb Open for voting: "Why Open Education Matters" video competition http://is.gd/lRlDnFJul 04 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb European Parliament Rejects #ACTA Copyright Treaty by 478 Votes to 39 http://goo.gl/bcbxP wonder who the 39 traitors to t ...Jul 04 22:22
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: European Parliament Rejects ACTA Copyright Treaty by 478 Votes to 39 | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 71.45 KBJul 04 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @webmink: need to ask all 39 who voted "for" why. & explain why they are mistaken. & we are watching. #ACTAJul 04 22:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @mmn are you the feds? No ma'am we're musicians #bluesbrothersJul 04 22:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @karsten: Into Free Software? Want to fix the world? FSFE has two internship opportunities from August. Apply now: http://ur1.ca/9q33fJul 04 22:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] From China with Love: Deep-in Review (12.06RC) http://ur1.ca/9q5kq #china #gnomeJul 04 22:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Nexus S 4G Welcomed Back into Android Open Source Project http://ur1.ca/9q5l2 #android #linuxJul 04 22:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The futuristic design of all Gnome Apps! http://ur1.ca/9q2cy #gnome #gnuJul 04 22:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Stand up for freedom this July 4th. Demand the Syrian govt. free open source developer Bassel Khartabil: https://eff.org/r.a9eR #freebasselJul 04 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chakra GNU/Linu x 2012.07 Has Linux Kernel 3.4.3 http://ur1.ca/9q5lr #chakra #gnu #linuxJul 04 22:42
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1770422Jul 04 22:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The futuristic design of all Gnome Apps! http://worldofgnome.org/the-futuristic-design-of-all-gnome-apps/ #gnome #gnuJul 04 22:49
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schestowitz"#unity on steroids! I'm thrilled!"Jul 04 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] How ACTA nearly won: the pathology of a lone voter - http://ur1.ca/9q5mmJul 04 22:51
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squarepegwhat's so great about unity?Jul 04 22:52
MinceRnothingJul 04 22:53
MinceRand i don't think it has a chance of being good on steroids. maybe on some other drugs.Jul 04 22:53
squarepegIf they really want to take an interface to the next level, it will be all vector.Jul 04 22:54
squarepegThe zooming user interface has merit a model for user interactionJul 04 22:54
squarepegthere's only so much you can do with a raster-based, 2D GUIJul 04 22:55
squarepegAfter that, it's 3DJul 04 22:55
MinceRthen it could just be full 3DJul 04 22:55
MinceRlike an FPS :>Jul 04 22:55
squarepegyeah, full 3DJul 04 22:55
squarepegbut I'm saying the intermediate step is zooming 2D in vectorJul 04 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] One hot cat http://identi.ca/url/72619596Jul 04 22:56
TechrightsBot-trNot a web page! Aborting image/jpeg typeJul 04 22:56
squarepeggoing up and down the z-axis is how you explore levels of hierarchyJul 04 22:56
squarepegand you can also pan aroundJul 04 22:57
MinceRor it could just be used to arrange multiple GUIs in a way that fits more information on the screenJul 04 22:57
squarepegso a directory tree can be just a small branch on a large treeJul 04 22:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] thanks; I'd like to say it was a pleasure... and it was, at the end...Jul 04 22:57
MinceRand if you need bigger text or more details, you can just walk closer :>Jul 04 22:57
squarepegwell, if you want to engage their spatial memory...Jul 04 22:58
squarepegleave things where users expect them to beJul 04 22:58
squarepegjust make them tinyJul 04 22:58
squarepegand they can zoom inJul 04 22:58
schestowitz"xfce mouce logo run, little guy, run!!"Jul 04 23:00
MinceRthe user could leave stuff in a 3d virtual world with some real world like themeJul 04 23:00
MinceRand walk aroundJul 04 23:00
squarepegsureJul 04 23:00
squarepegOr you give them an object, which is like a 3d file cabinetJul 04 23:01
squarepegExcept the drawers are impossibly deepJul 04 23:01
squarepegand the folders can magically store an unlimited number of filesJul 04 23:02
squarepegGIMP 2.8 is pretty sweetJul 04 23:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is a community approach to IT security ever safe? http://ur1.ca/9q5pb #opensourceJul 04 23:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana “but even though it's maintained, packaged and distributed by Debian, it's not part of Debian”, if you're into doublethinkingJul 04 23:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @fontana: @tekk War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and an authorized nonfree repository is #freeJul 04 23:09
MinceRgnJul 04 23:11
squarepeglaerJul 04 23:12
squarepeg+tJul 04 23:12
MinceRindeedJul 04 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada 's CTV using DMCA !Copyright to suppress free speech: #CDNpoli http://identi.ca/attachment/72619777Jul 04 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe resoundingly dumps #ACTA - http://bit.ly/N7I4d0 will #australia and #nz follow suit? (v @billbennettnz)Jul 04 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Isn't it ironic Canadian mainstream media network ~CTV~ used American #DMCA !copyright law to suppress political speech in !Canada !CDNpoliJul 04 23:17
cubezzzCTV sucksJul 04 23:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] caí na asneira de ligar pra (infer)NET: negam-se a mandar ofertas por escrito e agora me ligam sem parar, renegando ofertas anteriores!Jul 04 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] e ainda dizem que querem reconquistar o cliente!Jul 04 23:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A quasi-political Explanation of the Higgs Boson - http://bit.ly/KUjBaG neat (v @mpesce)Jul 04 23:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @cwebber Inspired #trolldonation: unmodifyable licenses are nonfree works, and so should not be included in free distrosJul 04 23:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Here's a technology I'm glad I never saw -- RealFlash -- http://identi.ca/url/72620152Jul 04 23:52
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