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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Open Cloud Roundup: Open Source Dominates Private, Hybrid Enterprise Clouds bit.ly/M8NdD1 #linux #opencloudJun 15 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NSA whistleblower explains how cellphones are used by drones to aim at people/track them http://ur1.ca/9i6ga #drone #obama #usJun 15 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: More Secrets on State Surveillance: Exclusive Part 2 With NSA Whistleblower, Targeted Hacker       - YouTube .::. Size~: 139.7 KBJun 15 00:05
schestowitz"Yeah, cuz windoze was "ready to go from turning it on." Not. It still sucks and I "turned it on" 18 years ago."Jun 15 00:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1711505Jun 15 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Reviewed: Linux Ubuntu 12.04 — the pipe dream http://gearburn.com/2012/06/reviewed-linux-ubuntu-12-04-the-pipe-dream/ #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 15 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Reviewed: Linux Ubuntu 12.04 — the pipe dream | Gearburn .::. Size~: 88.32 KBJun 15 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Facebook allows spooks to fabricate cases on people, spooks urged Luther King to commit suicide http://ur1.ca/9i6kiJun 15 00:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jacob Applebaum Questions FBI on National Security Letters.avi       - YouTube .::. Size~: 110.52 KBJun 15 00:31
scienteshttp://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/14/breaking_08_pledge_leaked_trade_docJun 15 00:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Breaking ’08 Pledge, Leaked Trade Doc Shows Obama Wants to Help Corporations Avoid Regulations .::. Size~: 70.42 KBJun 15 00:49
scientesschestowitz, ^Jun 15 00:49
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scienteshttp://boingboing.net/2012/06/14/tories-divided-over-uk-spying.htmlJun 15 01:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tories divided over UK spying bill, Home Secretary dismisses critics as "conspiracy theorists" who want to protect freedom for "criminals, terrorists and paedophiles" - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 35.75 KBJun 15 01:10
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DaemonFCPBS has the nerve to run telethons after taking dirty money from Walmart, oil companies, and MonsantoJun 15 01:31
DaemonFCfuck themJun 15 01:31
DaemonFC:PJun 15 01:31
Omega<@iophk> I⁃IIn one of the interviews with Linus Torvalds the other day, an article mentioned that there were some 73,000 man years  invested in the Linux kernel.  Is it possible that it is the single largest collaborative effort ever made?Jun 15 01:39
Omegaprobably not more than some religious documentsJun 15 01:39
Diablo-D3yeah but those took thousands of yearsJun 15 01:40
Diablo-D3linux is like, what, 20 some?Jun 15 01:40
DaemonFC21Jun 15 01:41
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scienteshttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/12/google-searchenginesJun 15 01:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google admits that Plato's cave doesn't exist | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 109.27 KBJun 15 01:58
scientes^^^this is really importantJun 15 02:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] a essa altura @rms está indo de volta pra casa: 30 mil pés ou algo assim. que volte breve!Jun 15 04:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @jezra ah true that goes without saying.Jun 15 04:28
sUm1oddJun 15 04:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Lights finally back after 20+ hours.Jun 15 07:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Erin Joiner http://ur1.ca/9i8e3Jun 15 07:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - WOOO!! (via +Katherine Lewis who shared limited) … .::. Size~: 130.04 KBJun 15 07:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Officially down with the Coola Gang.Jun 15 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Facebook allows spooks to fabricate cases on people, spooks urged Luther King to commit suicide http://ur1.ca/9i6kiJun 15 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Tumehama.comJun 15 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #NSA whistleblower explains how cellphones are used by drones to aim at people/track them http://ur1.ca/9i6ga #drone #ob ...Jun 15 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @x11r5 @lnxwalt300 Ogg is the perpetual virginity of the music for the 5mhz band go into effect today #hamrJun 15 08:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jacob Applebaum Questions FBI on National Security Letters.avi       - YouTube .::. Size~: 111.18 KBJun 15 08:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] "Verwendet ein Blogger zu seinem Hobby-Blog Fachartikel aus einschlägigen Presserzeugnissen und blendet er zur Refin... http://b1t.it/bCyKJun 15 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sanjayankur !fedora : http://ur1.ca/9i2cn #fedora-join-sig is now up. Help out, or come ask us stuff :)Jun 15 08:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - "Verwendet ein Blogger zu seinem Hobby-Blog Fachartikel aus… .::. Size~: 130.9 KBJun 15 08:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Fedora Join SIG - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 18.57 KBJun 15 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mairin check out this cool #inkscape "drawing hairs" tutorial that Luya from the #fedora design team wrote today! http://ur1.ca/9i7kgJun 15 08:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Final Zone project: Drawing hair with Inkscape .::. Size~: 71.65 KBJun 15 08:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @gijs Very few Irish primary schools requests census form in open format #joinup http://ur1.ca/9i83kJun 15 08:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Very few Irish primary schools requests census form in open format | Joinup .::. Size~: 26.23 KBJun 15 08:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] DreamWorks Using GNU/Linux Red Hat Servers http://ur1.ca/9i8n3 #gnu #linux #dreamworks #movie #software #microsoft #windowsJun 15 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's Friday! Hacking time (programming). :-)Jun 15 08:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] KRA's Simba clearing system is an example that comes to mind. @mosesmutuku #ie6Jun 15 08:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Having my bro for my VC will severely test the limits of our relationship. But can't think of a better VC.Jun 15 08:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #DreamWorks Using Red Hat Servers http://ur1.ca/9i8n3 #gnu #linux is big in film-makingJun 15 08:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DreamWorks Using Red Hat Servers .::. Size~: 28.23 KBJun 15 08:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@mosesmutuku: @nj3ma I remember registering for KRA pin and the site said I could only do it on IE...wa! To me it makes NO SENSE!"Jun 15 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@dailynation: FORMER MP Otieno #MakOnyango awarded Sh20m compensation for unlawful detention during the attempted 1982 coup."Jun 15 08:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@BBCWorld: School dinner blogger 'banned' http://t.co/JY0JJGlR" Outrageous!Jun 15 08:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / ? .::. Size~: 5.61 KBJun 15 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@MshaiMwatela: African in America or African American? | Mukoma Wa Ngugi | Comment is free | http://t.co/UXk1WEKn http://t.co/33ssE3ac"Jun 15 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Latest US news, world news, sport and comment from the Guardian | guardiannews.com | The Guardian .::. Size~: 167.62 KBJun 15 08:48
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iophk"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me for decades and I must be a certified Microsoft specialist."Jun 15 08:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@yongfook: ouch, that's gotta hurt. Google+ loses two key strategic partners for its social gaming platform: http://t.co/3LQPUyH2"Jun 15 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @schestowitz #DreamWorks Using Red Hat Servers http://ur1.ca/9i8n3 #gnu #linux is big in film-makingJun 15 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Running Opera 12, good stuff!Jun 15 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] "Hi there @ChanServ, how've you been?" ..... Now On #IRC #nairobilugJun 15 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@kachwanya: "@Mehboobah: Samsung Galaxy SIII to be in Safaricom shops as early as tomorrow. Retailing at Kshs 59,999/-"" @mralanorthJun 15 08:53
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iophkhttps://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/nokia-prepared-to-sell-patents-maybe-apple-should-buy-and-save-on-lawyer-fees/7814Jun 15 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And blackout.Jun 15 08:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia prepared to sell patents, maybe Apple should buy and save on lawyer fees | ZDNet .::. Size~: 163.83 KBJun 15 08:58
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schestowitz"Lot of A-list movies have been rendered with the help of Blender also."  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1714625Jun 15 09:02
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #DreamWorks Using Red Hat Servers  http://www.muktware.com/3699/dreamworks-using-red-hat-servers #gnu #linux is big in film-makingJun 15 09:02
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schestowitzI had a fream last night where I argued with some teacher about why patents are a bad ideaJun 15 09:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/213527328108711936?uid=26603208&iid=am-45140289413397438571385100&nid=4+251Jun 15 09:03
TechrightsBot-tr@fcassia: @MikSF @ataylor @martinvars well it´s never late to start a #ElopIsDestroyingNokia TT right? cc/@schestowitzJun 15 09:03
brendynturns out we actually want drm... sigh.. https://lwn.net/Articles/335415/Jun 15 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Okular, Debian, and copy restrictions [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 263.36 KBJun 15 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Good morning, good mornig, we talked the whole night through" - this will be a long day... #loteJun 15 09:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT from last night] read this - http://bit.ly/MTiU5M then you may wish to use this - http://bit.ly/MarpXy (last v @BobJonkman) #censorshipJun 15 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: NeverSeconds: Goodbye. .::. Size~: 532.98 KBJun 15 09:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Complaints | Argyll and Bute Council .::. Size~: 26.95 KBJun 15 09:11
schestowitzhttps://plus.google.com/113579520393333767984/posts/QtWvjiFFbyEJun 15 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will Hill - Google+ - Techrights remembers where Novell's Microsoft deal lead… .::. Size~: 156.38 KBJun 15 09:15
schestowitz"There are two aspects to what they did which I find, collectively, to be unacceptable.  Simply doing this as a desperate neccesity I would have seen as tolerable, but to also put out statements that offers political, perhaps even, legal coverage to Microsoft for their actions that may make it even harder to make use of courts and criminal law to address, to me was far worse than the act itself.  I am going to have to really re-think a Jun 15 09:15
schestowitzlot of things about both #redhat  and #fedora  as a result of this."Jun 15 09:15
schestowitz"Well, I used to look at them as being more supportive of software freedom.  This I think may be a real setback, and I see people are referencing this in respect to the Novell sellout.  I do participate in packaging for Fedora, and originally I was thinking of expanding my own use of it as well as activities in that project.  This I now do have to reconsider."Jun 15 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military http://goo.gl/ZPnbnJun 15 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] MakerToy has arrived! Messograf! Pen! Caliper! It's everything! :-) http://ur1.ca/7q2su... http://b1t.it/bCz3Jun 15 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 249.51 KBJun 15 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.61 KBJun 15 09:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - MakerToy has arrived! Messograf! Pen! Caliper! It's… .::. Size~: 130.99 KBJun 15 09:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] .@NeelieKroesEU : Heed the Pirate Parties, or Lose Your Job - http://bit.ly/LQrXVF the message is getting throughJun 15 09:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Commissioner Kroes: “Heed The Pirate Parties, Or Lose Your Job” - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 245.03 KBJun 15 09:20
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94626143Jun 15 09:22
TechrightsBot-tr@Marcio B. Jr. (mbjunior)'s status on Friday, 15-Jun-12 08:17:09 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Nothing really new in there. !redhat is far the stablest; eg: for a long time, best mainframe hardware (z) was Red Hat only.Jun 15 09:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bulgarians protest ‘mafia’ Forest Act - http://bit.ly/NCRPVC depressing #bgJun 15 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] FBI on National Security Letters http://ur1.ca/9i6ki #fbi "PWNED"Jun 15 09:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bulgarians protest ‘mafia’ Forest Act | EurActiv .::. Size~: 96 KBJun 15 09:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A mother against #glyphosate: Court case against GM soy producers in Argentina - http://bit.ly/KyteBP needs full investigationJun 15 09:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hawking is First User of SGI ‘Big Brain’ Supercomputer - http://bit.ly/KytuRe "runs unmodified, off-the-shelf #Linux software"Jun 15 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Listening to @rajville7's Career Student mixtape. Can totally relate. Lol.Jun 15 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Senator's Legislation Takes on Telephone Bill Cramming http://goo.gl/j3YXS cue the lobbying to kill itJun 15 09:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Senator's Legislation Takes on Telephone Bill Cramming | PCWorld .::. Size~: 84.42 KBJun 15 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np @Rajville7 - Girl Like YouJun 15 09:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #OpenScience Hackday, 7th July, in London and Online! - http://bit.ly/L9wh1n "don’t need coding skills to join"Jun 15 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Former #NSA Employee Thomas Drake and Jesselyn Radack on Whistleblower Crackdown http://ur1.ca/9i8yd #policestate #usJun 15 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] UK 'Snooper's Charter' Seeks To Eliminate Pesky Private Communications http://goo.gl/fHNLoJun 15 09:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open Science Hackday, 7th July, in London and Online! | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 68.86 KBJun 15 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK 'Snooper's Charter' Seeks To Eliminate Pesky Private Communications - http://bit.ly/L9wq4W wants all *letters* logged too #CCDPJun 15 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Former Federal Judge Calls US Prosecution Of Megaupload 'Really Outrageous' http://goo.gl/ziKGmJun 15 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Early day motion 151: ask your MP to sign - http://bit.ly/NpHrSt "calls on Gov to implement vital #copyright exceptions" (v @CameronNeylon)Jun 15 09:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Promusicae pierde el juicio - http://bit.ly/Lf0KfN big win for freedom of speech in #spain (v @Falkvinge)Jun 15 09:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Promusicae pierde el juicio » El Blog de Enrique Dans .::. Size~: 66.43 KBJun 15 09:53
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJsgYnPs6qU&feature=relmfuJun 15 09:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Keiser Report: Selective Amnesia for Brokers & Murderers (E266)       - YouTube .::. Size~: 160.26 KBJun 15 09:57
iophkhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-14/nokia-takeover-seen-as-shares-signal-bottomJun 15 09:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Takeover Seen as Shares Signal Bottom - Businessweek .::. Size~: 54.57 KBJun 15 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In 2004 I got rid of my television. That was 8 years ago. The reasons for this are numerous and the following new image http://ur1.ca/9i93sJun 15 10:00
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iophkThe speculations of buyout are ill-founded.  M$ has nothing further to gain by an outright purchase, effectively they already own Nokia but without the financial and regulatory concerns.Jun 15 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Build World’s Tallest Building in Nine Months? Sure, Why Not? - http://ur1.ca/9i95y er, might give this a miss (v @markmackinnon @_xiin)Jun 15 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Plan to Build the World's Tallest Building in China -- in Nine Months - China Real Time Report - WSJ .::. Size~: 88.18 KBJun 15 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Nokia prepared to sell patents if price right: CFO - http://on.mktw.net/M4PwIT I can't imagine who might buy these, can you #Microsoft?Jun 15 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia prepared to sell patents if price right: CFO - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 105.82 KBJun 15 10:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Online Activities to be Recorded by UK ISPs, Draft Reveals" from http://identi.ca/url/71439591 !rbnewsJun 15 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Consultation on Copyright: Summary of responses - http://bit.ly/L9B8Qi that was quick (v @copyrightgirl @CharlesOppenh) #hargreavesJun 15 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: it goes both way. Gov'ts make business happy so business makes gov'ts happy. Quid pro quo...its why we get dmca deact acta &tcJun 15 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @lnxwalt300 Ogg is the perpetual virginity of the music for the 5mhz band go into effect today #hamrJun 15 10:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Darn, I forgot an important thing! Evidence-based Policy. A politician wants to change a law - SHOW US THE DATA! #LOTEJun 15 10:45
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94627282 http://identi.ca/notice/94627199Jun 15 10:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 15-Jun-12 09:08:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz but I do admire you. I should watch much less TV, but sometimes I'm in a state where all I can do is passive TV watching.Jun 15 10:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Friday, 15-Jun-12 09:04:07 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz you look at 10 monitors with line graphs?Jun 15 10:49
oiaohmhttp://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20120613225942_First_Batch_of_Via_Technologies_49_Android_PC_Sells_Out_Company.htmlJun 15 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First Batch of Via Technologies' $49 Android PC Sells Out - Company - X-bit labs .::. Size~: 42.73 KBJun 15 10:52
oiaohmLet the Microsoft headache begin.Jun 15 10:52
oiaohmYes android system in PC form factor.Jun 15 10:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@smarimc Ppl don't feel impact of their decisions in rep. democracies. Participating directly yields "mindshare". #WeThePeople #LOTEJun 15 10:53
schestowitziophk: they didn't buy it already? :-)Jun 15 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This is a good explanation of how so-called "research" is used to sell an edge http://ur1.ca/9i9d5 #moodys #banking #gartner #idcJun 15 10:55
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oiaohmAlso should cause MS some worry since Windows RT most likely will not just be stuck to tablet.Jun 15 10:55
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nj3maUSD 49? How come this is the first I am hearing of it?Jun 15 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Do youtube vids count in #vaginamovielines? 'Words "micro" and "soft" do not apply to my penis (or vagina)' bit.ly/LFs3OjJun 15 11:00
oiaohmnj3ma: Maybe not connected the the right sources.Jun 15 11:05
oiaohmnj3ma: I heard about that board coming about 3 months ago.Jun 15 11:05
oiaohmnj3ma: but 49 dollars is well under the price range MS wants.Jun 15 11:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] 9yr old blogs about how bad food at her school is. School fixes the problem - by censoring her: bit.ly/Lpsuvg #StreisandEffectJun 15 11:06
nj3maOkJun 15 11:06
oiaohmCase + power supply takes a box to max of 150Jun 15 11:06
oiaohmMS has a base theory that the OS can only be 10 percent of the price of the machine.Jun 15 11:07
oiaohmEven adding on screen you don't get to a large value.Jun 15 11:08
nj3maOn to the Rikomagic PC, USD74 Runs Ubuntu 12.04,AndroidJun 15 11:09
nj3maAdJun 15 11:10
oiaohmAlso this risks causing intel major problems.Jun 15 11:10
nj3maHad ordered a Rasp PiJun 15 11:10
oiaohmMotherboard + cpu for a PC for less than the INTEL chips price alone.Jun 15 11:10
oiaohmReally I am still getting a Rasp PIJun 15 11:10
oiaohmRasp PI is more designed for robotics.Jun 15 11:11
oiaohmthere is still a fault with that via boardJun 15 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] While we're talking about participation at #lote, 9yr old gets censored in UK for exposing how bad the food in her school is bit.ly/LpsuvgJun 15 11:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I suppose it's old companies like Tesco that'll eventually unseat Apple in music; whether that's a good thing is anyon... http://b1t.it/bCCvJun 15 11:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Silner (silner)'s status on Friday, 15-Jun-12 10:10:32 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 11.12 KBJun 15 11:11
oiaohmNo sata ports.Jun 15 11:11
oiaohmand not enough ram.Jun 15 11:12
oiaohmBut like all things next generation of that tech will be better.Jun 15 11:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] MT @Mark_Antony: Apparently #opensource software could stifle traditionally strong profits" http://bit.ly/L9EliA er...... http://b1t.it/bCCwJun 15 11:13
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oiaohmIntell is still trying to push the idea that they will win over arm.Jun 15 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unity alternatives - the many desktops of Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/9i9hp #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 15 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Lush green. Two words I'd use to describe Kisii County !kenyaJun 15 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] RT @johnnynull RT @x11r5 it goes both way. Gov'ts make business happy so business makes gov'ts happy. Quid pro quo...its why we get dm ...Jun 15 11:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @TelegraphTech: #facebook collects members' mobile numbers http://is.gd/gOynZa (Didn't we already know this?) http://b1t.it/bCCDJun 15 11:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Draft Communications Data Bill: Daft and Dangerous - http://bit.ly/KyJTVR this is not acceptable for a free society #CCDPJun 15 11:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJsgYnPs6qU&feature=relmfuJun 15 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] UK Draft Communications Data Bill CM 8359 http://bit.ly/MVJ1c9 « I know it's boring but we have to keep up with this ... http://b1t.it/bCCJJun 15 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] iOS 6 Has Been Jailbroken http://ping.fm/4dkKDJun 15 11:41
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schestowitz"In addition to his broadcasting work Keiser is known for his invention of "Virtual Specialist Technology", a software system used by the Hollywood Stock Exchange."Jun 15 11:42
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser]Jun 15 11:42
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schestowitzI did not know he did softwareJun 15 11:42
schestowitz"Keiser has been involved with markets and finance for 25 years. He started his career as a stock broker on Wall Street after graduating from New York University."Jun 15 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] BBC launches sports streaming over mobile networks http://ping.fm/bSPjCJun 15 11:43
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oiaohmschestowitz: Keiser is one of the guys behind automated computer trading.Jun 15 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @TelegraphTech: #facebook collects members' mobile numbers http://is.gd/gOynZa (Didn't we already know this?) http://b1t.it/bCCD #fbJun 15 11:48
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Iu156DguEIE#!Jun 15 11:56
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schestowitzoiaohm: yeahJun 15 11:56
schestowitzI didn't know thisJun 15 11:56
schestowitzand former broker from NYJun 15 11:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Cyanogen Mod 9 is getting closer! Code freeze has begun http://ping.fm/T5UdAJun 15 11:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] "Best !Android apps for fathers" (But don't get me any of these) http://ping.fm/OuhuXJun 15 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux And Foss Are Extremely Selfish: It's OK To Be Selfish http://ping.fm/8vAG2Jun 15 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @shantanutushar: While in an alternate universe, #Nokia went with #MeeGo, sold #N9 worldwide and is the #1 smartphone manufacturerJun 15 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Drawing hair with !Inkscape http://ping.fm/DlJAYJun 15 12:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Designed in the open and with freedom to participate: #Kolab 3.0. Today: The free/busy system http://is.gd/jhsmSdJun 15 12:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Looking forward to !fsfe 's #Vienna !fellowship meeting todayJun 15 12:05
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8hVKX7ZUBjc#!Jun 15 12:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] If Apple really does try to cut the open Web out of its business then it's waging war on a lot more than !Google, re http://goo.gl/eSqpWJun 15 12:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Really Is Going To Try To Kill Google - Business Insider .::. Size~: 149.19 KBJun 15 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Today's #JoyOfTech is spot-on: bit.ly/LpxC2o #crappleJun 15 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] ♻ @dfi: SFD 2011 Best Event competition results announced: http://ur1.ca/9i9sd Congratulations! — !fsJun 15 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It only took me 25 minutes to convince Vodafone that I want to keep my contract but as I have paid for 24 months the a... http://b1t.it/bCDTJun 15 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Orange San Diego review: Intel does phones, finally http://ur1.ca/9i9t6 now you can buy #android phones with hardware from criminal companyJun 15 12:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Phil Zimmermann's post-PGP project: privacy for a price http://ur1.ca/9i9ua #pgp #privacyJun 15 12:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Phil Zimmermann's post-PGP project: privacy for a price | Security & Privacy - CNET News .::. Size~: 96.04 KBJun 15 12:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jfm/@jfm] Let's Get Bradley Manning the Nobel Peace Prize - http://ur1.ca/9i9wd !wikileaksJun 15 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Statement on school meals from Argyll and Bute Council - http://bit.ly/KGCYFr nice shovel you have there (v @DavidAllenGreen) #NeverSecondsJun 15 12:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Kristian Köhntopp http://ur1.ca/9ia06Jun 15 12:48
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Hi just found out about this from the LUG mailing list: http://pastebin.com/3MttWnLdJun 15 12:50
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sebsebsebseems quite interestingJun 15 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Gerard van Schip http://ur1.ca/9ia1nJun 15 12:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Now there is something you don't see everyday! A shark… .::. Size~: 139.22 KBJun 15 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft's Azure platform falls short for Linux http://ur1.ca/9ia1r #redhat #microsoft #tax #linuxJun 15 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] 13.37 A Brave GNU World is my upcomming album. Nixiepixel is also going to publish a video of the song.Jun 15 13:01
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/1715097Jun 15 13:14
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schestowitz"Jun 15 13:14
schestowitzInteresting... though I think he would make a helluva lot more money if he made the price of the apps more reasonable, a few dollars per month.Jun 15 13:14
schestowitzThere are already Android apps like TextSecure and Linphone, which set up end-to-end encryption...but they're clunky to use for most ordinary people, and so far not cross-platform...Jun 15 13:14
schestowitz"Jun 15 13:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: http://pastebin.com/3MttWnLdJun 15 13:14
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schestowitzsebsebseb: thanksJun 15 13:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: I did the pastebin, it will expire tommorowJun 15 13:17
sebsebsebsomeone emailed about it on the LUG mailing listJun 15 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Battle For Net Neutrality Flares Up Again: But Which Countries Still Have It? http://goo.gl/GoguPJun 15 13:21
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/mbjunior/statuses/213545788800897024Jun 15 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Intredasting... ♻ @marad: Great Indian rationalist and "guru buster" Sanal Edamaruku to visit #Poland in July http://ur1.ca/9i9v9 #atheismJun 15 13:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Going postal: does the reasoning behind the 'Snooper's Charter' stand up? - http://bit.ly/MvcpFu "level of surveillance not there before"Jun 15 13:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Battle For #NetNeutrality Flares Up Again: But Which Countries Still Have It? - http://bit.ly/KMAMud the answers may surpriseJun 15 13:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Texts not going thru' on @airtelkeJun 15 13:50
-mrmist-[Global Notice] - Our services upgrade is scheduled for 2PM UTC on Saturday. We expect services to be unavailable for up to an hour, so please plan your channel management accordingly. Thanks for flying freenode!Jun 15 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] NeverSeconds blogger Martha Payne school dinner photo ban lifted - http://bbc.in/KGLbJH all thanks to #barbarastreisand (v @Glinner)Jun 15 13:55
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iophkhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/14/nokia_software_purge/Jun 15 13:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Bruhahaha! Danke, +WELT ONLINE - made my day :-) Quelle: https://plus.google.com/u/0/111704991953139190278/posts/ixn... http://b1t.it/bCFGJun 15 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "If I can't say the word vagina, why are we legislating vaginas?" - http://bit.ly/LpJl0Y a very good question (v @AnonyOps @Asher_Wolf)Jun 15 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @MaxLath: RT @thejaymo: #LOTE shared & collaborative learning is viewed with 'suspicion' by major institutions.Jun 15 14:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @marad: Great Indian rationalist and "guru buster" Sanal Edamaruku to visit #Poland in July http://ur1.ca/9i9v9 #atheismJun 15 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Maybe "glocal" is the word? ♻ @HeleneFinidori: RT @pietrosperoni: #LOTE: "Think #global, act #local but act global too" I love it!!!Jun 15 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] yes. 9Am is *not* an hour. ♻ @Involuteconduit: @CharanyaC For Hub sesh I'd recommend noon, give ourselves a little space perhaps? #loteJun 15 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Ffs, we paid for the research in taxes. It's ours. ♻ @thejaymo academia is still suck on "ownership" of knowledge. #loteJun 15 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So is that our circular dependancy? Sure hope it wouldn't end in vicious circle. #BadPuns ♻ @accessjames we need a circular room... #loteJun 15 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @herrurbach: <!--[if lte IE 7]><style> * {font-family: "Comic Sans";} </style><![endif]--> !webdev !lolJun 15 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #EdgeRyders could set-up an IdeaTorrent and/or Co-Ment, would help much prolly #lote http://ur1.ca/9iafj http://www.co-ment.org/Jun 15 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] But @hook larger point is #ELN has *tons* of members who do not have anything close to "profound" expertise in free software law. cc: @bkuhnJun 15 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Phone charge almost out. Bummed. Barely got to use my unlimited daily bundle.Jun 15 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Please, let's NOT limit ourselves to only Twitter and other closed/centralised platforms. #loteJun 15 14:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] 15 minutes to class.Jun 15 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] We do not neet *products*. We need *results*. Let's hope we will get them. #lote #edgerydersJun 15 14:18
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1714625Jun 15 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] No offense to @keynote2k of course; I am the one who nominated him and stand by such nomination. :-)Jun 15 14:20
schestowitz"...cinepaint is also used quiet a lot"Jun 15 14:20
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schestowitziophk: MS mayhem and terrorism in Finland?Jun 15 14:20
schestowitzElop has just killed their latest Linux-based OSJun 15 14:20
schestowitzThe one they worked onJun 15 14:20
schestowitzNot MegooJun 15 14:20
schestowitz*meegoJun 15 14:21
iophkDoing to the mobile industry what they did to the mainstream computing industry.Jun 15 14:21
iophkHe basically killed everything.  There's nothing Nokia has that can be used to recover.Jun 15 14:21
oiaohmiophk: this is incorrect.Jun 15 14:21
iophkWhat's left?Jun 15 14:21
oiaohmiophk: Nokia still has there case designers.Jun 15 14:21
iophkI was thinking software.Jun 15 14:22
oiaohmiophk: And that has some custom software.Jun 15 14:22
iophkBut how much longer will the case designers be kept on?Jun 15 14:22
oiaohmiophk: nokia phones are so dependable due to there software for designing the case.Jun 15 14:23
oiaohmiophk: software crash testing of case designs.Jun 15 14:23
oiaohmiophk: this is one thing they still have left.Jun 15 14:23
schestowitz[14:21] <oiaohm> iophk: this is incorrect.Jun 15 14:23
schestowitzLOLJun 15 14:24
schestowitzNokiaJun 15 14:24
schestowitzthe case designerJun 15 14:24
schestowitzand tires companyJun 15 14:24
schestowitzthey can put up moles for hire, tooJun 15 14:24
schestowitz$5 apieceJun 15 14:24
iophkI think they are unlikely to farm out case design to the other mobile manufacturers and that the others would be unlikely to take them up on the offer anyway.Jun 15 14:24
schestowitzAsian companies can design their own casesJun 15 14:25
schestowitzApple already loses this battle tooJun 15 14:25
oiaohmiophk: Other makers could take up the offer.  Remember car desigers outsource crash testing.Jun 15 14:25
schestowitzSamsung does not need the litigators from CAJun 15 14:25
schestowitzThey make their own in KoreaJun 15 14:25
iophkCrash testing is different than desiging the chasssisJun 15 14:25
schestowitzeventually the US will just become silventJun 15 14:25
schestowitz*solventJun 15 14:25
schestowitzIt's be Detroit NationalJun 15 14:25
schestowitzno manufacturing, no design, no VCJun 15 14:26
oiaohmiophk: nokia case designer has software simulation of crash testing.  Also can import generic models.Jun 15 14:26
oiaohmiophk: if nokia is no longer making phones.Jun 15 14:26
oiaohmiophk: other companies might take up the chance to reduce dudsJun 15 14:26
oiaohmReally to be reduced to that is sad but its about the only think nokia has left.Jun 15 14:27
schestowitzhttp://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120614PD214.htmlJun 15 14:28
iophkIt would be a hard sell to get Apple, Samsung, Sony, etc to hire in Nokia for case design or case crash testing.  Historically they have been fierce competitors.Jun 15 14:28
schestowitzthey'll continue to offshoreJun 15 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Smari MC at the mike! Spi it, bro! Freestyle! #lote #edgerydersJun 15 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@melmbugua: We've got to put in 'sweat equity' for our startups to prosper."Jun 15 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pirateriestudie des Medienboards Berlin-Brandenburg: suggestiv, verkürzt, oberflächlich - http://bit.ly/KGOpwU as usualJun 15 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I love how USA talks about "failed states". think about it. failed *states*. bit.ly/KMGb4xJun 15 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] About "talking in the right format" to politicians, consider this: http://rys.io/en/64.txt #loteJun 15 14:28
oiaohmiophk: duds are expensive.Jun 15 14:28
oiaohmiophk: so not really a hard sell.Jun 15 14:28
oiaohmiophk: only issue is if they fear nokia stealing there designs.  This is why they would not share with nokia at moment.Jun 15 14:29
oiaohmBasically what I am talking about is nokia absolutely last option to live.Jun 15 14:29
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oiaohmThere are some x usa car makers who make quite a business theses days being car design testing compaies.Jun 15 14:30
schestowitz[14:28] <oiaohm> iophk: so not really a hard sell.Jun 15 14:30
oiaohmSo its not a untested path.Jun 15 14:30
schestowitzIf they want to sell duds, they should sell Nokia, which they doJun 15 14:30
schestowitzSame fate as Nortel and KodakJun 15 14:30
schestowitzeven Novell.... -> CPTNJun 15 14:31
iophkHow would they get from where they are now, being competitors, to being trusted enough to sell design testing?Jun 15 14:33
iophkRight now they are a mobile phone company, if only in name.Jun 15 14:34
oiaohmiophk: remember I said this is the last move.Jun 15 14:34
oiaohmiophk: to go to being a testing company they have to completely stop making phones.Jun 15 14:34
iophkYes, that is implied.  But M$ could pump money into the phone division and keep it alive like it did for SCO.Jun 15 14:35
iophkThat would prevent an eventual transition to testing.Jun 15 14:35
oiaohmAgain its how smart nokia is.Jun 15 14:36
iophkLOLJun 15 14:36
oiaohmNokia could also move to providing customed versions of MS mobile OS to other makers as well.Jun 15 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9iaikJun 15 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @smarimc: Good reminder from @rysiekpl: http://t.co/TvGxuIO1Jun 15 14:36
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oiaohmAgain it pushing up hill.Jun 15 14:36
oiaohmTo get the testing they have to stop making the phone hardware.Jun 15 14:37
oiaohmThis does not mean they cannot be selling something to MS like MS mobile OS improvement.Jun 15 14:37
oiaohmIt will take brains to dig self out of this problem iophkJun 15 14:37
oiaohmIf nokia can find someone todo that they still have a chance of remaining alive as a company.Jun 15 14:38
oiaohmMost likely never producing phones again.Jun 15 14:38
iophkAssuming that the stockholders or board even wish to dig the company out of the hole it is digging.Jun 15 14:38
oiaohmHeck nokia doing iphone accessories would be funny.Jun 15 14:38
oiaohmthere would be money in it.Jun 15 14:39
iophkElop, and some of the board, appear to be there to push an agenda not make phones.Jun 15 14:39
oiaohmwhen you see how deep of hole nokia is in that could be the correct move out.Jun 15 14:39
schestowitzthe agenda is patentsJun 15 14:39
schestowitzlike I wrote in March 2011Jun 15 14:40
schestowitzI predicted this because Nokia put many patents in Linux' sideJun 15 14:40
schestowitzEven AndroidJun 15 14:40
oiaohmIf nokia makes no phones they don't break the agreement with MS to provide a percent of phone with windows OS.Jun 15 14:40
iophkPatents are more a tool than an agenda,  Nokia does not appear to care and has been unloading them.Jun 15 14:40
schestowitzNow Microsoft does its paten turf warsJun 15 14:40
schestowitzlike CPTN vs GoogleJun 15 14:40
schestowitzApple+MS for NortelJun 15 14:40
schestowitzEllison f0r JobsJun 15 14:40
schestowitzIt's like organised crimeJun 15 14:40
oiaohmReally the patent war is getting hotter.Jun 15 14:41
iophkMostly by proxy, thoughJun 15 14:41
oiaohmApple and Microsoft are getting really woried about Motorolla total refusal to enter bargining table.Jun 15 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Snooper's Charter petition: don't let the government transform GB into KGB - http://bit.ly/KGQBEF no laughing matter, but ha!Jun 15 14:41
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oiaohmReally its the MAD idea.Jun 15 14:41
schestowitzso much for innovationJun 15 14:42
oiaohmAs long as no party decide that Multually assused destruction is not a good idea the patent system keeps on working.Jun 15 14:42
iophkB&N caved, maybe they are hoping that Motorola will cave eventually, too.Jun 15 14:42
schestowitzjust racketeeringfastJun 15 14:42
schestowitz!google openmoko on patentsJun 15 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - InfoQ: OpenMoko Faces MP3 Patent Dispute | http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/11/OpenMoko-MPEGJun 15 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Patent Trolls Attack OpenMoko Project | The Musings of Chris Samuel | http://www.csamuel.org/2008/11/14/patent-trolls-attack-openmoko-projectJun 15 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Openmoko Community - Re: Stop whininig / be friendly | http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/Re-Stop-whininig-be-friendly-td7561338.htmlJun 15 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Calling Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenMoko to Resolve Mono Problem ... | http://techrights.org/2008/11/18/resolving-the-mono-problem/Jun 15 14:42
oiaohmMotorola does not need to cave.Jun 15 14:42
schestowitz!google openmoko founder on sofware patents mailing listJun 15 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - News aggregator | linux-to-go.org | http://www.linuxtogo.org/aggregator%3Fpage%3D1Jun 15 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Linus Torvalds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_TorvaldsJun 15 14:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Richard Stallman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_StallmanJun 15 14:42
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oiaohmMicrosoft has not worked out yet that Motorola makes chips for most of the other phone makers.Jun 15 14:43
schestowitziophk: they didn't caveJun 15 14:43
schestowitzMS bribed themJun 15 14:43
oiaohmSo if motorola cannot sell phones they still make income.Jun 15 14:43
schestowitzlots of money and a sweet deal to reduce incentive to stand up for justiceJun 15 14:43
schestowitzMS neutralised justiceJun 15 14:43
schestowitzit bought it outJun 15 14:43
oiaohmPatent vs Motorola is basically stupidity.Jun 15 14:43
oiaohmBecause they have no reason ever to cave.Jun 15 14:43
schestowitzthis is sickening to manyJun 15 14:44
schestowitzHere we are talking not about what phones work wellJun 15 14:44
schestowitzOr platformJun 15 14:44
schestowitzbut about patents... Oracle vs Dalvik, MS tax on Android phones, Nokia killed off by a mole..Jun 15 14:44
schestowitzit's becoming like politics and the banking cartel... so corrupt that people lose interest in even thinking about it..it's depressingJun 15 14:44
oiaohmOracle vs Google shows how hard Google who now owns Motorola is.Jun 15 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Battle: Send Mail To INTA Delegates! - http://bit.ly/K7CdUu please do...Jun 15 14:45
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oiaohmSo any hope of Motorola folding should be forgoten.Jun 15 14:45
iophkThat's good.Jun 15 14:45
iophkBut I also thought that B&N would hold out before, too.Jun 15 14:45
oiaohmB&N need to sell there nook to sell books.Jun 15 14:46
oiaohmTo make profitJun 15 14:46
iophkI could see no reason for B&N to give in, they could have kept goingJun 15 14:46
schestowitznook is a bad nameJun 15 14:46
oiaohmSo MS could force them to fold eventionally.Jun 15 14:46
schestowitzsounds like bedroom langJun 15 14:46
oiaohmschestowitz: sadly its ment to.Jun 15 14:46
oiaohmschestowitz: since that is where B&N thought the device would be mostly used.Jun 15 14:46
Omegaiophk: I bet some religious documents have had more time devoted to it then the linux kernelJun 15 14:47
oiaohmOmega: of courseJun 15 14:47
oiaohmOmega: because you are talking hundreds of years.Jun 15 14:47
Omegayeah, but that means it's not:Jun 15 14:48
Omega<@iophk> I⁃IIn one of the interviews with Linus Torvalds the other day, an article mentioned that there were some 73,000 man years  invested in the Linux kernel.  Is it possible that it is the single largest collaborative effort ever made?Jun 15 14:48
iophkOmega: but there have been many forks.Jun 15 14:48
iophkThe linux kernel is still one projectJun 15 14:48
iophkEven Android avoided forking and has been folded back into the mailine.Jun 15 14:49
iophk*mainlineJun 15 14:49
oiaohmThat is the thing Linux development and religious document history has a lot in common at times.Jun 15 14:49
oiaohmOther than the fact the Linux kernel has not been used to justify a war yet.Jun 15 14:49
oiaohmAnd being used to justify a war is kinda anti collaborativeJun 15 14:50
oiaohmOmega: basically not everything about religous documents is collaborative.Jun 15 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Blog Post | Is #Linux #Mint Living On It's Reputation Overdraft? http://fwd4.me/13EX #Mintcast #SolusOS #fbJun 15 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] behind closed doors, the snoopers charter is being called the poopers charter after what they can now do in your mouthsJun 15 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, how many of #lote #edgeryders are under 25? Serious question, very curious.Jun 15 15:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "EU not effective by design" maybe? ♻ @edgeryders: "EU funding not effected by design" #lote #edgerydersJun 15 15:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I know for a fact that some of those dreams have been dreamt at this very meeting, today. right, @asta_fish? ;) #loteJun 15 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] A #LOTE OF COFFEE NAO!Jun 15 15:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/metacode/status/213632583056101376?uid=26603208&iid=am-167106996113397689517766440&nid=4+251 https://twitter.com/metacode/status/213634951269187585?uid=26603208&iid=am-134278427213397695165403045&nid=4+251Jun 15 15:19
TechrightsBot-tr@metacode: Interview of Lars Schall by @maxkeiser https://t.co/FJX6ysQ4!  At ~14min Insider trading the 9-11? Has Germany got any gold? (@schestowitz)Jun 15 15:19
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TechrightsBot-tr@metacode: Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Options Markets http://t.co/qOCKvSeD Academic PDF 51p (via @schestowitz) 9-11 insider trading?Jun 15 15:19
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iophkhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-15/nokia-debt-rating-is-reduced-one-step-to-junk-status-at-moody-s.htmlJun 15 15:20
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iophkThe article misses that the move to M$ is what caused the loss of market share.  I hope this is not indicative of a trend towards revisionism.Jun 15 15:21
schestowitzyeahJun 15 15:22
schestowitzthey sell anothetr storyJun 15 15:22
schestowitzthat nokia was dying anywayJun 15 15:22
schestowitzand that MS was trying to save itJun 15 15:22
iophkThat's the one they're trying to sell.  Nokia was doing very well with its Linux phones and even the legacy Symbian phones.Jun 15 15:23
iophk— until Elop set the platforms afire.Jun 15 15:23
oiaohmiophk: Symbian is limitedJun 15 15:26
iophkIt is limited and on the way out, but still had some money left in it.Jun 15 15:26
oiaohmiophk: Really not that much.Jun 15 15:27
oiaohmiophk: problem was going to be android.Jun 15 15:27
oiaohmiophk: that has basically consumed the Symbian market in most places.Jun 15 15:27
iophkAndroid is the strongest competitor.Jun 15 15:30
iophkhttp://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/the-final-reckoning-of-burning-platforms-memo-damaged-nokia-by-wiping-out-13b-in-revenues-and-destro.htmlJun 15 15:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Communities Dominate Brands: The Final Reckoning: Burning Platforms Memo Damaged Nokia: Wiped out $13B revenues, Destroyed $4B profits in just 12 months .::. Size~: 164.79 KBJun 15 15:31
iophk"Quarter 3 2010 Symbian based Nokia smartphone sales: 26.5 M units and 3.6 B Euros revenues;Jun 15 15:33
iophkNokia smartphone Average Sales Price 136 Euros, profits in smarpthone unit 335 M EurosJun 15 15:33
iophkQuarter 4 2010 Symbian based Nokia smarpthone sales: 28.3 M units and 4.4 B Euros revenues;Jun 15 15:33
iophkNokia smartphone Average Sales Price 155 Euros, profits in smarpthone unit 548 M Euros"Jun 15 15:33
iophkSo there was still (at the time) some money left in Symbian.Jun 15 15:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1713061Jun 15 15:39
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If You've Ever Sold a Used iPod, You May Have Violated Copyright Law http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/06/if-youve-ever-sold-a-used-ipod-you-may-have-violated-copyright-law/258276/ helps show how outdated #copyright law isJun 15 15:39
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schestowitzI really believe that apple users actually SIGN a paper which states: "I HEREBY SELL MY SOUL TO APPLE".Jun 15 15:39
schestowitzNo doubt about it.Jun 15 15:39
schestowitz"Jun 15 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @CameronNeylon: Great piece on patient access to research by Paul Wicks on PLoS Medicine 'Speaking of me http://p.ost.im/p/evjcmeJun 15 15:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I like how my battery lasted 4 hours today already - and *still* is 50% charged. I know, I brag. Sorry. Can't help myself.Jun 15 15:58
formic_http://imgur.com/XhUeqJun 15 16:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Perhaps not the best for productivity, but I like my office by the lake: http://is.gd/ppw506Jun 15 16:05
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DaemonFCuhhhm, noJun 15 16:07
DaemonFCthat was KhanJun 15 16:08
DaemonFCin Star Trek II: The Wrath of KhanJun 15 16:08
DaemonFCalso known as KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!!11112Jun 15 16:09
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3MGlzC5l8Jun 15 16:10
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formic_no im pretty sure it was babylon 5Jun 15 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Existing #spdx tools are written in #Java? !disturbingJun 15 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Thanks to redditors for asking, tor does not give out secret infos to LEO, ignore the press misquotes, http://ur1.ca/9ibdk #torJun 15 16:13
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DaemonFCI've watched the entire series twice and I'm pretty sure nobody ever said thatJun 15 16:13
DaemonFC:)Jun 15 16:13
DaemonFCI even watched that spinoff, CrusadeJun 15 16:15
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_%28TV_series%29Jun 15 16:15
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DaemonFCthey showed them in the wrong order on their TV run thoughJun 15 16:16
DaemonFCthey canceled it after they bought the minimum number of episodes they were contractually obligated to, then showed them in the wrong orderJun 15 16:17
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formic_daniel jackson said it on b5Jun 15 16:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I am sorry, but no. You were not able to charge due to dumb design of #crapple chargers. #lote #edgerydersJun 15 16:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I mean, seriously, the design of the sockets is completely proper and standard. #Apple failed here. #lote #edgerydersJun 15 16:20
DaemonFCOK, but the picture is a quote from Khan (Star Trek), a picture of Teal'c (Stargate SG-1), attributed to Daniel Jackson (Stargate SG-1), and to an unrelated show in which Daniel Jackson was not a character (Babylon 5) Jun 15 16:22
DaemonFCand it is not funnyJun 15 16:22
DaemonFC:)Jun 15 16:22
formic_im not sure i should believe youJun 15 16:23
DaemonFCwhy not?Jun 15 16:23
DaemonFCI'm usually rightJun 15 16:23
DaemonFCand when I'm not, it was because my network of Bothan spies has given me bad intelligence reportsJun 15 16:24
formic_you're wrong about opera not being spywareJun 15 16:25
DaemonFCI don't think it isJun 15 16:26
schestowitzISPs are spywareJun 15 16:26
schestowitzand one that's hard to dodgeJun 15 16:26
schestowitzthey also put some more DPI in the stackJun 15 16:26
schestowitzhelps subsidise them. The state helps them as long as they aid profiling citizensJun 15 16:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1709675 "Artist is Allie Brosh from Hyperbole and a half"Jun 15 16:28
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: O.o   ![](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5g8bpgUzB1r0wqrdo1_500.jpg)Jun 15 16:28
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formic_DaemonFC: opera mini sends all traffic through their server, and opera mobile reads phone call information and system logsJun 15 16:34
iophkhttp://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/microsoft-to-buy-yammerJun 15 16:34
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schestowitzyammer?Jun 15 16:35
schestowitzpage not foundJun 15 16:36
DaemonFCOpera Mini is designed for crappy phones that aren't capable of running a real browserJun 15 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Creative Commons and the #GLAM sector - Workshop in Stockholm: http://bit.ly/Lm6EsrJun 15 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Aaaand we're done. Time to brush-up for the unconference kick-off. #loteJun 15 16:38
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formic_it still spies on trafficJun 15 16:39
formic_why does opera mobile need my phone call records and system logs?Jun 15 16:39
formic_profitJun 15 16:39
formic_selling call records to telemarketersJun 15 16:39
formic_thats the problem with proprietary software companiesJun 15 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] 2012 Kernel Summit: Call for Participation http://ur1.ca/9ibkaJun 15 16:40
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formic_winamp pro for android, is also not free (not free as in beer, or free as in freedom)Jun 15 16:41
formic_funding AOLJun 15 16:41
formic_gotta love itJun 15 16:41
DaemonFChttp://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-No-Calorie-Sweetener-9.7-oz/10533728Jun 15 16:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Walmart.com: Great Value Granulated No Calorie Sweetener, 50ct: Beverages .::. Size~: 269.59 KBJun 15 16:49
DaemonFCmust pick up some more of thisJun 15 16:49
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DaemonFCCoke and Pepsi are both complaining their profits are downJun 15 16:53
DaemonFChow fucking greedy do you have to get?Jun 15 16:53
iophkschestowitz: some kind of 'social networking'   Never heard of it before.Jun 15 16:53
DaemonFCthey make all their money transporting water in plastic bottles, sometimes with high fructose corn syrup in itJun 15 16:54
DaemonFChttp://www.walmart.com/ip/SodaStream-Diet-Cola-Sodamix-500-ml/20934485Jun 15 16:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Walmart.com: SodaStream Diet Cola Sodamix, 500 ml: Appliances .::. Size~: 259.44 KBJun 15 16:55
*DaemonFC wonders if that's any goodJun 15 16:55
formic_not high fructose corn syrupJun 15 16:56
DaemonFCbut it shows you how much water gets transported around for soft drinksJun 15 16:56
DaemonFCthis little bottle can make the equivalent of six two liter bottles of sodaJun 15 16:56
oiaohmReally co 2 in water is not exactly good for teeth.Jun 15 16:56
formic_oiaohm is nutsJun 15 16:57
DaemonFCformic_: would you prefer "diabetes in a plastic bottle"?Jun 15 16:58
DaemonFCmmmmJun 15 16:58
DaemonFC:PJun 15 16:58
formic_diabetes isn't caused by thatJun 15 16:58
iophkhttp://ion.chem.usu.edu/~sbialkow/Classes/3650/Carbonate/Carbonic%20Acid.htmlJun 15 16:58
formic_its caused by unbalanced diets and no excerciseJun 15 16:58
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schestowitz[16:50] * DaemonFC used up an entire bag of it making sweet tea over the last weekJun 15 16:59
formic_my dentist said it was ok to drink 'bright coloured' soda popJun 15 16:59
formic_because it had citric acid instead of phosphoric acidJun 15 16:59
formic_which is in the dark popsJun 15 17:00
DaemonFCschestowitz: I find that if I make some kind of drink mix or iced tea it encourages me to drink more waterJun 15 17:01
oiaohmformic_: no I am not nuts.  Funny thing about co2 and tooth coating they don't agree.Jun 15 17:02
oiaohmformic_: when mixed in water at high ratio.Jun 15 17:02
DaemonFCmost of those mixes end up being way too strong if you make it like they tell you to anywayJun 15 17:04
DaemonFCcrystal light (or store brand) says one packet makes 2 quarts Jun 15 17:04
DaemonFCyeah, if you want it to overpower youJun 15 17:04
DaemonFC2.5 quarts is more like itJun 15 17:04
DaemonFCplus is stretches it out a bit more so you end up spending lessJun 15 17:05
DaemonFCyou see that a lot though with consumablesJun 15 17:05
DaemonFCthe directions tell you to use a bit more than what you actually need so you will go through it faster and buy moreJun 15 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Communications Data Bill/Draft - http://bit.ly/MckaMp handy HTML version (v @webmink)Jun 15 17:06
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DaemonFCoiaohm: I'm sure formic_ would quote the wraith from Stargate Atlantis, but probably attribute it to Quark from Deep Space Nine or something ;)Jun 15 17:07
DaemonFC"We do not require our food to agree with us!"Jun 15 17:07
DaemonFC:)Jun 15 17:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Video of Mexican cops acting as narco death squad shocks hardened nation - http://bit.ly/MbQIIC what can you say? (v @TransformDrugs)Jun 15 17:10
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sebsebsebschestowitz: is Techrights down?Jun 15 17:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] A Skype call in Ethiopia will now get you 15 years in prison http://identi.ca/url/71546084 !eff !fsfJun 15 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] U.S. Justice Department knowingly keeps innocent people in jail http://identi.ca/url/71576736 #policestateJun 15 17:13
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DaemonFC"A Skype call in Ethiopia will now get you 15 years in prison"Jun 15 17:17
DaemonFClolJun 15 17:17
schestowitzgoodJun 15 17:17
schestowitzthey crack down on MS ;-)Jun 15 17:18
schestowitzpeople should d/w jitsiJun 15 17:18
schestowitzhow do you say jitsi in Swahili?Jun 15 17:18
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I'm considering making a comment on the cable company's FTC request to be allowed to encrypt their retransmission of local television stationsJun 15 17:23
DaemonFCI don't think that channels that are free and over the air provide a sufficient draw for someone to go out an illegally make a connection to the main cable lineJun 15 17:24
iophkWhere are some good (i.e. non-Flash) stock price charts?  Yahoo! has tied theirs to Flash.Jun 15 17:25
DaemonFCI think that this is more about the cable company wanting an existing line from a former subscriber to be completely useless without that person paying them for some level of serviceJun 15 17:25
DaemonFCthe laws about that vary from state to stateJun 15 17:25
DaemonFCsome consider running a coaxial cable from the wall outlet to your TV and watching those free over the air channels to be a "passive theft of service", which is ridiculousJun 15 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] ARM board for Arduino shields (The H) http://ur1.ca/9ibtsJun 15 17:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Internet Archive sues to stop new Washington state law that puts online libraries at risk https://eff.org/r.a9dcJun 15 17:26
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DaemonFCbut others don'tJun 15 17:26
DaemonFCwhich is obviously good, because it shouldn't be a crime to watch channels you could get on an antenna anyway using a cable hookup that was already thereJun 15 17:27
DaemonFCbut if they win their argument and the FTC lets them encrypt those channels, they shut people out even where they did not break any lawJun 15 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tell #KFC to stop turning rainforests into rubbish! - http://bit.ly/M6kUXz junk food, junk ethicsJun 15 17:30
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DaemonFCComcast does some damned sloppy cabling jobs anywayJun 15 17:31
DaemonFChalf the time I don't see how they can tell their own work from some hick that went out at 3 AM with a ladderJun 15 17:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet Archive Sues to Stop New Washington State Law - http://bit.ly/NrV6bD think before you legislate, peopleJun 15 17:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US Security Services May 'Have Moles Within #Microsoft,' Says Researcher http://goo.gl/nACng why wouldn't they? makes senseJun 15 17:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Newspaper Puts Reporter On Leave For Posting Link To Article About His Employer On Facebook http://goo.gl/VFXdwJun 15 17:50
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formic_oiaohm: next thing you'll say is that co2 causes terrorismJun 15 17:58
schestowitzInternet Archive Sues to Stop New Washington State LawJun 15 17:58
schestowitz https://www.eff.org/press/releases/internet-archive-sues-stop-new-washington-state-law a form of suppression, #chillingeffect vs #freespeechJun 15 17:58
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schestowitzInternet Archive Sues to Stop New Washington State LawJun 15 17:59
schestowitz https://www.eff.org/press/releases/internet-archive-sues-stop-new-washington-state-law a form of suppression, #chillingeffect vs #freespeechJun 15 17:59
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schestowitzoopsJun 15 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ABA to DOJ on e-book settlement: Punish collusion, not indie bookstores http://goo.gl/bOnSNJun 15 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on a cascade training with just 20 negatives and positives, performance of some merit can be reached (yes, even w http://ur1.ca/9ibzpJun 15 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Internet Archive Sues to Stop New Washington State Law http://ur1.ca/9ic2u a form of suppression, #chillingeffect vs #freespeechJun 15 18:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.wpri.com/dpps/health/healthy_living/dirty-30-want-epa-air-pollution-rule-repealed_4208105Jun 15 18:03
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DaemonFCit will probably pass, although it will only be the second time a federal regulation has been rescinded by Congress under this 1996 lawJun 15 18:03
DaemonFCit's not a war on coal, it's a regulation that limits the amount of mercury that a coal fired power plant can put into the airJun 15 18:05
DaemonFCscreening it out will not cost a lot of money and may even create some jobs manufacturing the filtering equipment and installing itJun 15 18:05
DaemonFCbut in the longer term, the regulation would stop most of the mercury contamination these plants cause which will lead to better health for millions of peopleJun 15 18:06
*DaemonFC doesn't see how it would be the end of coal if utilities had to charge their customers a few cents more each month to comply with the regulationJun 15 18:07
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formic_write a book daemonJun 15 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Der Spiegel gibt schon mal alle Artikel zum Verlinken frei, inkl. Anriss. Leistungsschutzrecht - Rohrkrepierer? http:/... http://b1t.it/bCLRJun 15 18:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I'm getting the impression the number of Red Hat employees named "Lukas" is increasingJun 15 18:15
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*DaemonFC puts asbestos in formic_'s living quartersJun 15 18:17
DaemonFC:)Jun 15 18:17
DaemonFCa few more years of Republican deregulation and we can have that shit backJun 15 18:17
DaemonFClead in gasoline too!Jun 15 18:17
formic_its illegal in canada, but not illegal to export to others :)Jun 15 18:23
DaemonFCasbestos?Jun 15 18:28
DaemonFCthe US has almost entirely removed all the asbestos we installed in buildings in the 20th centuryJun 15 18:28
DaemonFCdiscovering that a building has asbestos in it not only makes it impossible to sell the building until the problem is taken care of, most states and local governments will fine the hell out of the building's owner until it is removedJun 15 18:29
DaemonFC(as they should)Jun 15 18:29
formic_yeah asbestosJun 15 18:33
DaemonFCIndiana collects the fines it assesses from owners of contaminated buildings and puts it into an asbestos removal fundJun 15 18:34
DaemonFCthe fund is used to remove asbestos from public buildingsJun 15 18:35
DaemonFCmost property owners try to take car of the problem quietly before the state finds out about it :)Jun 15 18:36
DaemonFC*careJun 15 18:36
DaemonFCif you find it and call in an asbestos removal service before the state finds out your building is contaminated, you don't get finedJun 15 18:37
oiaohmReally after the floods here cleaning up asbestos is really important thing.Jun 15 18:39
oiaohmYes there was big issues with it turning up.Jun 15 18:39
DaemonFCit was so widespread that it was practically standard issue for new buildings at one timeJun 15 18:40
DaemonFCformic_: the new statewide smoking ban takes effect in two weeksJun 15 18:42
DaemonFCand wouldn't you know it? the Republicans signed on to it!Jun 15 18:42
DaemonFCeven a broken clock is right twice a day ;)Jun 15 18:42
DaemonFCmaybe the Republicans do something right once every couple of yearsJun 15 18:42
formic_DaemonFC: http://imgur.com/QJbSXJun 15 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Vaginas aren't dirty, even in Michigan http://goo.gl/d7qSLJun 15 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The internet's two-sided freedom http://goo.gl/flGtZJun 15 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Weekend Project: Open Source Crowd Mapping with Ushahidi bit.ly/MOGLA8Jun 15 19:01
iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57454124-235/original-apple-1-computer-motherboard-sells-for-$374500/ Jun 15 19:12
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iophkBack when the hardware was open.Jun 15 19:12
oiaohmiophk: not all was even back then.Jun 15 19:14
iophkThe Apple II was quite openJun 15 19:14
iophkI should have been more precise.Jun 15 19:14
oiaohmThere was still black box about what was inside the silcon.Jun 15 19:15
oiaohmReally the processing of becoming open has had a lot of up and downs.Jun 15 19:16
iophkAll the chips back then I saw had numbers that could be looked up.  Occasionally, you got something covered with black epoxy but that was on peripherals.Jun 15 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Helsinki council presses IT department to continue using open source http://ur1.ca/9icia #finlandJun 15 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Korea trade deficit balloons under NAFTA-style deal - http://bit.ly/M6LzDF will this increase pressure on #TPP negotiations?Jun 15 19:23
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DaemonFCif you build something in your garage with off the shelf parts, then by its very nature it is open, because anyone else can do the same thingJun 15 19:23
DaemonFCbut the trend in the PC industry over the years has been anything but openJun 15 19:24
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DaemonFCFoxconn actually makes about 85% of the parts regardless whose name is on themJun 15 19:24
DaemonFCso right off the bat, you loseJun 15 19:24
DaemonFCand after that, the software that runs the hardware is secretJun 15 19:24
DaemonFCso you lose twiceJun 15 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Polish State Fire Services excludes open source in procurement http://ur1.ca/9hzv4 #poland #opensourceJun 15 19:25
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formic_nopeJun 15 19:25
formic_they OEM for intel and some others but not ASUS or GigabyteJun 15 19:26
formic_if you're building a pc with off the shelf parts, its stupid not to use ASUS or GigabyteJun 15 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Batch of Via Technologies' $49 Android PC Sells Out - Company. http://ur1.ca/9icj5 #androidJun 15 19:26
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formic_they probably OEM for MSI, wouldnt surprise me cause MSI sucksJun 15 19:26
formic_probably ECS as wellJun 15 19:27
iophkAt the heart of the Helsinki situation is control over the file format.  Jun 15 19:27
iophkhttps://lwn.net/Articles/493147/Jun 15 19:27
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DaemonFCthey do OEM for MSIJun 15 19:27
formic_yeah, not surprisedJun 15 19:27
formic_MSI is garbage toJun 15 19:27
DaemonFCa lot of MSI boards have the same BIOS bug I found back in 2008Jun 15 19:27
formic_MSI is for poor peopleJun 15 19:27
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DaemonFCMSI never fixed the affected boards, but Foxconn fixed the issue so later MSI boards inherited the fixJun 15 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] One of the reasons I got into web forums and news clippings if that in 2004 I had a lot of idle time waiting for experiments to complete.Jun 15 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FBI, DEA warn #IPv6 could shield criminals from police - http://cnet.co/LNFLzf "new law may be necessary": never heard that before...Jun 15 19:28
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oiaohmDaemonFC: intresting point.  MS testsuite passed that fault in fact instisted on it.Jun 15 19:28
DaemonFCIt's nice that a mass shaming campaign and complaining to the DOJ and FTC can have results sometimesJun 15 19:28
DaemonFCright? :)Jun 15 19:28
oiaohmThe break threw is the recent biosbits or something like that open testsuite that works.Jun 15 19:29
oiaohmMS history with bios testsuites is a sad and sorry one for everyone involved.Jun 15 19:29
DaemonFCRed Hat's Matthew Garrett is an apologist for every damned dirty rotten thing the industry criminals try to push on usJun 15 19:30
DaemonFCincluding that issueJun 15 19:30
DaemonFChe seemed to think that patching Linux to deal with yet another firmware issue was preferable to asking the upstream OEM to fix their garbageJun 15 19:31
oiaohmHe tried to get upstream to fix.Jun 15 19:31
oiaohmA lotJun 15 19:31
oiaohmSaid part about firmware if its not right when it shipped getting it fixed might never happen.Jun 15 19:32
DaemonFCright, because as long as Windows can cope with it, they don't give a shitJun 15 19:32
oiaohmDaemonFC: I know Matthew Garrett in person.Jun 15 19:32
DaemonFCno matter how incorrect their firmware isJun 15 19:32
oiaohmUmm.Jun 15 19:33
DaemonFCthe best thing you can do with a BIOS is to never mess with one that is workingJun 15 19:33
oiaohmReally that is not true.Jun 15 19:33
DaemonFCbecause their upgrades can actually introduce more problems that were never in the version you hadJun 15 19:33
oiaohmA lot of windows minor issues and problems trace to bios.Jun 15 19:33
oiaohmSo everyone is suffering.Jun 15 19:33
oiaohmLast years have been better.Jun 15 19:34
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DaemonFClolJun 15 19:37
DaemonFCPBS has a British cooking show onJun 15 19:37
DaemonFCand they're subtitling all the measurementsJun 15 19:37
schestowitz[19:35] <DaemonFC> we deserve a hell of a lot better than what we're getting from the PC hardware industryJun 15 19:38
schestowitz[19:36] <DaemonFC> Microsoft and Apple software is just salt in the wound on top of thatJun 15 19:38
formic_DaemonFC: they are paying a microsoft tax so that noobs who are afraid of bios tweaking can still install fedoraJun 15 19:38
schestowitzSaltware?Jun 15 19:38
schestowitz[19:36] <formic_> DaemonFC: Matthew Garret isnt an apologistJun 15 19:38
schestowitzMaybe for Red HatJun 15 19:38
DaemonFCWindows is much easier to replace than malicious hardwareJun 15 19:38
DaemonFCthey exist to protect each other's monopolies Jun 15 19:38
formic_secure boot isn't stopping malwareJun 15 19:38
formic_i know exactly what microsoft is doing thereJun 15 19:39
DaemonFCSecure Boot = Part of malicious firmware = The hardware is malicious because it can't be operated without the malicious firmware.Jun 15 19:39
formic_the only way to steal windows vista or 7 is by using a bootloader hack that masks your BIOS and gives the OS an OEM key that activates your stolen copyJun 15 19:39
formic_DaemonFC: how is it malicious when you can turn it offJun 15 19:40
DaemonFCI don't CARE if Windows can be cracked or notJun 15 19:40
DaemonFCit would be better if it couldn't beJun 15 19:40
formic_well thats what secure boot hopes to preventJun 15 19:40
DaemonFCbecause fewer people would use itJun 15 19:40
formic_people stealing windows by using the boot loader hackJun 15 19:40
formic_secure boot secures that process, preventing the use of a boot loader hackJun 15 19:40
DaemonFCyou're not stealing itJun 15 19:40
DaemonFCyou're committing a copyright violationJun 15 19:40
formic_its not locking out linux, because you can still install linux with a few tweaksJun 15 19:41
DaemonFCwhether it is civil or criminal, a copyright violation is not theftJun 15 19:41
DaemonFCthat's like saying "people who steal cable TV"Jun 15 19:41
formic_ok, fine, "using windows illegally without paying for it"Jun 15 19:41
scientesformic_, civil, not criminalJun 15 19:42
scientesbut anyways, no point in that when there is LinuxJun 15 19:42
scientesGNU/LinuxJun 15 19:42
scientes100% free libre and legalJun 15 19:42
formic_exactlyJun 15 19:42
DaemonFCthe criminal law you break is the DMCAJun 15 19:43
formic_nothing is stopping anyone from installing linux even with UEFIJun 15 19:43
DaemonFCthe copyright issues can be civil if you're doing it for personal and/or noncommercial reasonsJun 15 19:43
formic_at most you turn off a bios settingJun 15 19:43
formic_big dealJun 15 19:43
DaemonFCor criminal if you do it for commercial reasonsJun 15 19:43
DaemonFCnote that even the DMCA doesn't define the crime as theftJun 15 19:44
formic_scaremongering just gives microsoft power, because people fear itJun 15 19:44
DaemonFCthe crime is circumvention of the DRMJun 15 19:44
formic_ignoring microsoft is the best possible ideaJun 15 19:44
formic_even bad news is PRJun 15 19:44
DaemonFCyeah, but as Nokia tanks and the sockpuppet that OpenSUSE has become fail, it's worth mentioningJun 15 19:45
formic_microsoft does far worse than secure boot every dayJun 15 19:46
DaemonFCallowing OpenSUSE to maintain an air of credibility makes SUSE seem more distant from Microosft's direct control than it isJun 15 19:46
formic_i'd be more worried about subsidies to schools running microsoft software, than having to turn off a bios settingJun 15 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google TV Gets New Legs with #LG ARM TV http://ur1.ca/9iclj #linuxJun 15 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] especiallyJun 15 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] interesting, yes; reliable at this scale?...not so sureJun 15 19:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New #Mandriva Foundation Nears Milestone http://ur1.ca/9icnjJun 15 19:46
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formic_DaemonFC: according to msb_ there is nothing wrong with opensuse msb__Jun 15 19:46
DaemonFCas OpenSUSE is forced to admit that it no longer has the resources to run the project, it shows that there's nobody there and it's turned into a propaganda cityJun 15 19:47
formic_its a shame for opensuse, webyast was looking goodJun 15 19:47
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kij%C5%8Fng-dongJun 15 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wow! Nice! Participant of New Hire sends me award for my presentation! Flattered I feel :-)Jun 15 19:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Microsoft Threat Management Gateway Classifies donate.fsf.org http://ur1.ca/9icnv #gnu #fsf #censorshipJun 15 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ACTA: Last Crucial Step Before Final Vote http://ur1.ca/9ico6 #acta #euJun 15 19:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How Long Before VPNs Become Illegal? http://goo.gl/Lef50Jun 15 19:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A few years ago #torvalds complained that news sites - even #slashdot - chose headlines to sensationalise. [...]Jun 15 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Politicians Who Cried 'Cyber Pearl Harbor' Wolf http://goo.gl/4GDGqJun 15 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [...] BBC chose to associate Linux with "Selfishness" _in its headline_. Could it have done a better job? Seems like FUD, no? #bait #trollJun 15 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus, GNOME 3, and Much Ado About Desktop Interfaces http://ur1.ca/9icp9 #gnu #linux #desktopJun 15 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hey startups: Don’t start your emails with “Dear [Name]” – 95% of people hate it http://goo.gl/5BNh2Jun 15 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The hard truth: Newspaper monopolies are gone forever http://goo.gl/IzXVWJun 15 20:03
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DaemonFChttp://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405787,00.aspJun 15 20:04
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iophkOpera's a great browser but even when it was my main browser, I was never able to use more than a fraction of its capabilities.  There is a lot to it.Jun 15 20:07
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formic_iophk: opera is evilJun 15 20:15
formic_iophk: opera mobile reads phone state info from android and system logsJun 15 20:16
formic_they could sell your call list to telemarketersJun 15 20:16
formic_they've never gone on the record saying they wouldn'tJun 15 20:17
ThistleWebif the rumours do turn out to be true that facebook does buy opera, expect that "do not track" feature to be quietly mislaidJun 15 20:17
formic_facebook and opera would be a good matchJun 15 20:17
formic_both steal your call listsJun 15 20:17
ThistleWebit does make sense for facebook sadly, specially for opera miniJun 15 20:18
ThistleWebnot good for users thoughJun 15 20:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Supercomputer jagt Italiens Steuersünder - http://bit.ly/KNDRdo how long before greece & spain follow suit? (v @bendrath @FSchweitzer) #itJun 15 20:20
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formic_DaemonFC: Apple thought of you for iOS6 http://www.neowin.net/news/apple-adds-emoji-of-gay-couples-to-ios-6Jun 15 20:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Logitech ls1 laser mouse is fuckin' fast, I switched it from the netbook to the laptop, forgot how fast it actually is, might buy anotherJun 15 20:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] certainly in better harmony with itJun 15 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from John Ridley http://ur1.ca/9icscJun 15 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Carroll was coming into form as the season ended, it'd have made sense to start him for England in the France game as well as SwedenJun 15 20:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good afternoon, !tzag !identiverseJun 15 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Reading up on an amazing historical figure…true philanthropist Andrew Carnegie http://www.ur1.ca/9icue (unlike today's fake philanthropists)Jun 15 20:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yes, the best work is always fun. Too bad there isn't more of it :)Jun 15 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #England are looking well worth their 1-0 lead #ec2012Jun 15 20:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Well, showing your support can't hurt :)Jun 15 20:40
iophkCanonical has found linux-based mobile phones for swag:Jun 15 20:41
iophkhttp://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/06/announcing-the-ubuntu-app-showdown-contest/Jun 15 20:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Public libraries, funded by Andrew Carnegie, first in Waterloo, later Elmira, helped engender my lifelong love of libraries, books & readingJun 15 20:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I just found out that the public library I went to (& loved) 'til I was 5 was a Carnegie. Now it's Habitat for Humanity HQ !CanadaJun 15 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @andreaglorioso: EUROPA - State aid: Commission clears state aid to an ultra-fast broadband network in B http://p.ost.im/p/ev8PRmJun 15 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Comparing Carnegie's true philanthropy w/Gates fake philanthropy that effectively locks those who are "helped" into the company storeJun 15 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @technollama: New blog post: You can get paid with Creative Commons too! Why Mira Sundara Rajan gets it wrong http://t.co/OvPehzkXJun 15 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good afternoon @pensadorloucoJun 15 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @technollama: New blog post: You can get paid with @CreativeCommons too! Why Mira Sundara Rajan gets it wrong http://bit.ly/MP4nVbJun 15 20:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @technollama: New blog post: You can get paid with @CreativeCommons too! Why Mira Sundara Rajan gets it wrong http://bit.ly/MP4nVbJun 15 20:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The parallels between #ACTA and #TPP can't be ignored. But TPP is even worse. https://eff.org/r.3add via @Public_CitizenJun 15 21:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Glen Johnson was unfortunate thereJun 15 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 72 dents!Jun 15 21:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] US Nat'l Archives open gov't plan highlights ongoing engagement w/@Wikipedia & @WikiCommons: http://1.usa.gov/NngrSa #GLAMJun 15 21:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is the word "blocks" an English language swear word in #Minecraft? #bollocksJun 15 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #England ride their luck, Terry was offside, shouldn't have been a corner, but every little helps #Walcott #ec2012Jun 15 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Gates credited w/philanthropy by locking recipient schools & libraries into micro$oft products …enslaving customers, not doing goodJun 15 21:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk The same strategy drug dealers use to hook customers & formula companies use to hook babies. #preyontheweak #notintheirbestinterestsJun 15 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #beardpowerJun 15 21:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be just like #England to concede another and not manage an equaliser #ec2012Jun 15 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] well, that was a timely dent, complete with an egg attached to a boomerangJun 15 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] /me wipes egg off his face - fantastic goal from #Wellbeck #England #ec2012Jun 15 21:38
DaemonFChmmm, I got a $5 off coupon for a filtrete water pitcherJun 15 21:48
DaemonFClike they read my mindJun 15 21:48
DaemonFC:PJun 15 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk malaria cure?Jun 15 21:50
DaemonFClooks like it's pretty basic thoughJun 15 21:52
DaemonFCsediment filter with activated charcoalJun 15 21:52
DaemonFCbasically just makes it taste better and removes those little specksJun 15 21:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Winnipeg Free Press: !Canada awarded dubious distinction at Rio talks for sustainable development http://www.ur1.ca/9id8k !CDNpoli #notgoodJun 15 22:00
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formic_daemonfc - http://www.berkeyfilters.com/Jun 15 22:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @marygkosta We don't need #13Heroes - we have @ElizabethMay. Thanks for going without sleep to wake up !Canada. #C38 !CDNpoliJun 15 22:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Ricarda Riechert http://ur1.ca/9idgqJun 15 22:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @ElizabethMay The CPC MPs are fairly jubilant about destroying environmental law. So sad. !cdnpoliJun 15 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ten things Stephen Harper hopes you forget by 2015 http://www.ur1.ca/9idm1 !CDNpoliJun 15 22:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from E.G. Steup http://ur1.ca/9idoyJun 15 22:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - ROFLcopter via +Markus Henkel  .::. Size~: 145.28 KBJun 15 22:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] More about libraries: #nothumour from @larryrusswurm "Embarrassed about Reading" http://www.ur1.ca/9hm4n !books !bookJun 15 22:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1713979Jun 15 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #NSA whistleblower explains how cellphones are used by drones to aim at people/track them http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3DS4nFy1NXA#! #drone #obama #usJun 15 22:27
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schestowitz"All I know is we need to shoot those drones out of they sky or better yet their operators."Jun 15 22:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1708870Jun 15 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: meet me here - - - - ogust.tumblr.com #photography #blogJun 15 22:27
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schestowitz"3 days later... Jesus is BACK... and he's PISSED!"Jun 15 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thanks @frankejames It makes me want to cry but you've done a great job: http://www.frankejames.com/debate/?p=11818 !CDNpoli #C38 !CanadaJun 15 22:28
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1713830Jun 15 22:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Jitsi ( previously SIP Communicator) is an audio/video and chat communicator ( #Skype replacement) https://jitsi.org/ #jitsi #foss #linux #gnu #voip #sipJun 15 22:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] The state of FireWire audio interfaces support on Linux (Libre Graphics World) http://ur1.ca/9ie2mJun 15 22:40
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schestowitz"Seriously looking into this. How are people finding the quality of calls?"Jun 15 22:40
schestowitz"Check out FLOSS Weekly #162 where they interviewed the #Jisti guys: http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/162"Jun 15 22:40
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1715436 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yLMlJtwaKUJun 15 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr@thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: Do you trust your ISP & Government to keep **all your communications ** stored **safely** (in case the police want to investigate you), and...     **not lose them** and **not get hacked** and **not misuse them?** Do you think any **dangerous criminals** or **terrorists** will blithely carry on using the internet without hiding their activity? **Stop the Snooper's charter** -> write to your MP: http://www.openrightsgJun 15 22:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Is it just my system or is anyone else having trouble connecting to wordpress.com blogs?Jun 15 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Reddit Issues Ban Against Links From The Atlantic, Businessweek ... - Geekosystem http://ping.fm/uehaxJun 15 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @1111aether lol, kinda badly researched but very cute :) http://youtu.be/njos57IJf-0 worth it to watch to the end.Jun 15 22:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] A survey of Linux audio plugins http://ur1.ca/9ieaxJun 15 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Well. There's nothing I can do to stop the Omnibudget ( !Canada just flushed the Environment Act ) so I #amwriting while #computergetsfixedJun 15 23:06
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DaemonFCit's a good thing the water in this town isn't worse than it isJun 15 23:10
DaemonFCif I had to clean out my coffee maker with anything stronger, it would probably violate a chemical weapons treatyJun 15 23:10
*DaemonFC mixed soda ash and vinegar, poured it in, flipped the machine on, and......ran like hellJun 15 23:12
DaemonFCif that doesn't save it, nothing willJun 15 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Dropbox Will Soon Be Done With Public Folders for new users http://ping.fm/MphRVJun 15 23:13
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formic_MinceR: Thanks for the advice of carrying a backup phone for my iPhoneJun 15 23:30
formic_I tried to copy pasta and my left hand caused signal loss, then my phone exploded when I tried to pasteJun 15 23:31
DaemonFCI just got a new phoneJun 15 23:32
prurigrowhich one?Jun 15 23:32
DaemonFCmy SOPAT&T contract expired so I canceled them and got a prepaid phone from KrogerJun 15 23:32
DaemonFCyou get free airtime credits based on how much you spend on their groceriesJun 15 23:33
DaemonFCand they count towards your fuel pointsJun 15 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] New report under CC BY from COL and UNESCO: #OER and Change in Higher Education: Reflections from Practice - http://goo.gl/MR1ymJun 15 23:33
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DaemonFCAND my credit card gives me 5% cashback because it's from a grocery storeJun 15 23:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 15 23:33
scientesKroger is evilJun 15 23:33
DaemonFChow so?Jun 15 23:33
DaemonFCI go there all the timeJun 15 23:34
formic_Freddy Kroger ?Jun 15 23:34
formic_He kills pplJun 15 23:34
scientestheir leveraged buyout of Fred Meyers for exampleJun 15 23:34
DaemonFChttps://www.iwirelesshome.com/Jun 15 23:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Prepaid cell phones, No Contract and Pay as You Go Plans | i-wireless .::. Size~: 27.91 KBJun 15 23:35
scientesDaemonFC, you should do the pre-paid with cashJun 15 23:36
DaemonFCthere's no reason to be using a cell phone with a contract anymoreJun 15 23:38
DaemonFCyou average it out and you're not actually saving anythingJun 15 23:38
DaemonFCwhat's worse is that they can send you a bill that is far bigger than what you were expectingJun 15 23:38
DaemonFCscientes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen%27s_MarketJun 15 23:41
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DaemonFCKroger bought them years agoJun 15 23:41
DaemonFCbut they're all still branded "Owen's"Jun 15 23:42
DaemonFCKroger also bought Scott'sJun 15 23:43
DaemonFCthey leave the branding alone so people won't notice that the store changed ownersJun 15 23:43
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott%27s_Food_%26_PharmacyJun 15 23:43
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DaemonFCscientes: Their distribution centers are basically sweatshopsJun 15 23:47
DaemonFCbut that's true for a lot of large retailers Jun 15 23:47
DaemonFCthey're always hiring because they're always firing or people get sick of being treated like that and quitJun 15 23:48
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GE6o9Z4sQ8Jun 15 23:55
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XFaCEDaemonFC: In Canada, you often get in a contract regardless of whether you originally had oneJun 15 23:56
XFaCEThe beauty of the telecom monopolyJun 15 23:56
DaemonFCiwireless uses Sprint's networkJun 15 23:56
DaemonFCthey seem to have better coverage than AT&T'sJun 15 23:56
DaemonFCI have a lot of places where AT&T's would drop my calls where Sprint's doesn'tJun 15 23:57
DaemonFCXFaCE: There's a lot more competition in the US among cell phone companies and they each control a small enough area of the country with their own network that they are effectively forced to negotiate more favorable access terms to each others towersJun 15 23:58
DaemonFCit's much better than what happened with landline telephone companiesJun 15 23:58
DaemonFCwith landline phone companies, the US government gives each one of them a regional monopolyJun 15 23:59
DaemonFCif AT&T provides service in your area, you can't sign up with Verizon, for exampleJun 15 23:59
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