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DaemonFCand so I was effectively prevented from signing up for Verizon's FTTN VDSLJun 16 00:00
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DaemonFC(which is much MUCH MUCH faster than AT&T's ADSL)Jun 16 00:00
DaemonFCso I decided that Comcast was my least bad option for internet service right nowJun 16 00:00
DaemonFCso I'm back with ComcastJun 16 00:00
scientes^^that video is pretty goodJun 16 00:01
DaemonFCVerizon's DSL service is apparently much better than AT&T's. most of AT&T is using ADSL (not even ADSL2 or ADSL2+)Jun 16 00:02
DaemonFCso even their expensive "business DSL" plans top out at 12 Mbps around hereJun 16 00:02
scientesverizon's dsl is generally alot cheaper than at&t, and they are essentially the same companyJun 16 00:02
DaemonFCfor the same price, you can get Comcast at 50 MbpsJun 16 00:02
scientesso otherwise it doesn't really matterJun 16 00:02
DaemonFCand 50 isn't even Comcast's best planJun 16 00:02
scientesthey both are in bed with the NSAJun 16 00:03
DaemonFCComcast has better network infrastructure than AT&T doesJun 16 00:03
DaemonFCand their caps are much more reasonable than AT&T's areJun 16 00:03
scientesAT*T is tier 1 while Comcast is tier 2 IIRCJun 16 00:03
scientesbut both are dicksJun 16 00:04
DaemonFCI don't know why people keep voting Comcast most hated company in AmericaJun 16 00:04
DaemonFCit should be AT&TJun 16 00:04
scientesQwest has extremely fraudulent billing practicesJun 16 00:04
DaemonFCComcast might be in the top 5, but I don't see how they keep getting voted to the top of that listJun 16 00:04
DaemonFCthere's worseJun 16 00:04
DaemonFCif I had to vote for most hated telecom, it would definitely be AT&TJun 16 00:05
scienteslast mile telecoms shouldn't existJun 16 00:05
DaemonFCif it was just what company of any kind that I hate the most, there's just so many contenders for thatJun 16 00:06
DaemonFCprobably a tie between Walmart and DirecTVJun 16 00:06
scienteshttp://www.atg.wa.gov/pressrelease.aspx?&id=7066Jun 16 00:06
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DaemonFCDirecTV for deceptive/fraudulent billing practices, bill cramming, and gouging you for service callsJun 16 00:06
DaemonFCWalmart for treating its employees like dirt and exploiting third world labor on the scale they doJun 16 00:07
scientesand again: http://www.atg.wa.gov/pressrelease.aspx?&id=29086Jun 16 00:07
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DaemonFCDirecTV's billing is the only thing I despise them forJun 16 00:07
scientesand there are 3 or so more of thoseJun 16 00:07
scientesbasically, they just get a slap on the wristJun 16 00:07
DaemonFCthe service itself is excellent but you're going to be raped on the billingJun 16 00:08
scientesinstead of treble damages and a mandate of auditingJun 16 00:08
DaemonFCscientes: I keep saying this.Jun 16 00:08
DaemonFCAdvertisements should have to state up front what you will pay and when.Jun 16 00:08
scientesalso that new attornet general is a sleezy in-bed-with-corporations-lying asshatJun 16 00:08
scientesgregoire actually did her job, even if they never properly persecuted the criminal companysJun 16 00:09
DaemonFCBills should be line itemed and each item readily understandable and something you agreed to pay up frontJun 16 00:09
DaemonFCIf they later go back and do something that they didn't spell out in their advertisement, it should render your contract VOIDJun 16 00:09
scienteshttp://www.ucan.org/telecommunications/wireless/phone_bill_cramming_phony_charges_rampantJun 16 00:10
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scientesthey do it across the boardJun 16 00:10
scientesI know people that have quit their jobs cause the corruption was just too muchJun 16 00:10
DaemonFCI put my utilities on my credit cardJun 16 00:10
scientesyou can't buy service from those people and not get scammedJun 16 00:10
DaemonFCthat way if they hit me with an unexpected amount over something I didn't agree to, I can initiate a charge backJun 16 00:11
DaemonFCand claw it back from themJun 16 00:11
scientessadly its true that the only method of getting control these days is credit cardsJun 16 00:11
DaemonFCyou put your autopay accounts on a debit card, it's goneJun 16 00:11
scientesbecasue the small claims counts have basically been shut downJun 16 00:11
DaemonFCthey decide to slap your debit card with something you weren't expecting, it's goneJun 16 00:11
scientesin the way they workJun 16 00:12
scientesnot enough class actionJun 16 00:12
scientestoo many slaps on the wristJun 16 00:12
scientesnot enough discovery and auditing of fraudulent practices after it has been prooven in a few casesJun 16 00:12
DaemonFCI have a checking account, but I only use it to pay my credit card account withJun 16 00:12
DaemonFCI pay my bills with money orders or my credit cardJun 16 00:13
scienteshttp://arstechnica.com/business/2008/09/washington-court-deals-a-blow-to-unconscionable-eulas/Jun 16 00:13
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DaemonFCthere's no way to take more money than what a money order was made out forJun 16 00:13
DaemonFCand if you get improperly billed on a credit card, you dispute it and the card company will go deal with the merchant and get your money backJun 16 00:13
DaemonFClol, the AT&T Death StarJun 16 00:14
DaemonFC$%#&*#ing Darth Vader Universal Sith Fee!!!Jun 16 00:15
DaemonFCwhat the #$@$ do they even need that $2 for!?!?Jun 16 00:15
DaemonFCB-)Jun 16 00:15
DaemonFCscientes: General Rule #1 when dealing with utilitiesJun 16 00:16
DaemonFC"DO NOT SIGN A CONTRACT, YOU WILL LIVE TO REGRET IT!!! SERIOUSLY!"Jun 16 00:17
*DaemonFC is never going to sign another contract for phone or cableJun 16 00:17
DaemonFCit's going to be prepaid or month-to-monthJun 16 00:17
DaemonFCthere's absolutely nothing in the contract that is beneficial to youJun 16 00:18
DaemonFCit just means that when they jump out and yell "SURPRISE!!!! Your bill just tripled!" you have another year or so where there's nothing you can do about itJun 16 00:19
DaemonFCI just finished winding down and canceling a DirecTV account, an AT&T DSL account, and an AT&T cell phone planJun 16 00:20
DaemonFCthey all expired last monthJun 16 00:20
DaemonFCthank god, another few months of that and I'd have been finishedJun 16 00:20
DaemonFCin place of about $240 a month of bills, I replaced it with about $70 a month of bills between Comcast, iwireless, and NetflixJun 16 00:22
DaemonFCthat's going to be a huge weight off my shouldersJun 16 00:22
DaemonFCespecially with gas and food and rent and god knows everything else going upJun 16 00:22
*DaemonFC looked over that home soda fountain thing they had at WalmartJun 16 00:23
DaemonFCreminded me of that Margaritaville episode of South ParkJun 16 00:24
DaemonFCthe economy is in the toilet and everyone is buying frivolous junk they don't need instead of saving their moneyJun 16 00:24
DaemonFCthe fountain machine is $80, the CO2 replacement cannisters are about $30 each and good for the equivalent of about 70 2-liter bottles of soda, the soda mix itself isn't too bad, $5 and it make 25 2-liter bottlesJun 16 00:26
DaemonFCI guess if you absolutely HAVE to have soda, you'll break even at some point vs. buying it premadeJun 16 00:27
formic_Sweet Jesus you deal with co2??Jun 16 00:28
DaemonFCbut you'd have to make a lot of it just to hit that point and by that time, Walmart will probably stop carrying the concentrate and the CO2 cannisters or the company will have gone out of business and no longer make partsJun 16 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Next week, planned at 10 am on the 21st of June, INTA will vote on ACTA. Commissioner de Gucht has invited himself for... http://b1t.it/bCQGJun 16 00:28
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DaemonFCformic_: Yeah, they sell cannisters of CO2 gas at that displayJun 16 00:28
formic_OmfgJun 16 00:28
DaemonFCthe $80 fountain itself comes with ONE cannister of itJun 16 00:28
formic_Global warmingJun 16 00:28
DaemonFCI think it's ridiculously contrivedJun 16 00:29
DaemonFCtoo damned many parts and piecesJun 16 00:29
DaemonFCand a high up front costJun 16 00:29
DaemonFCthey'll sell a few of them and go out of businessJun 16 00:29
formic_Planet killerJun 16 00:31
DaemonFCyeah, all this crap nobody needsJun 16 00:31
DaemonFCthen it'll end up in a landfill when the company goes under and everyone who bought the base system has something they can no longer useJun 16 00:32
DaemonFCthat's consumerism for you :)Jun 16 00:32
DaemonFCor like Carlin saidJun 16 00:33
DaemonFCyour neighbor bought a vibrating dildo that plays "Oh come all ye faithful" so you need one too!Jun 16 00:33
DaemonFChe picked a bad example thoughJun 16 00:34
DaemonFCvibrating dildos are good for the planetJun 16 00:34
DaemonFCif they prevent someone from having procreative sexual intercourse, they've offset the materials and energy used to make that vibrating dildo several thousand foldJun 16 00:35
DaemonFCso they're a good thingJun 16 00:35
DaemonFCgive everyone a dildo, a butt plug, or a pocket pussy I sayJun 16 00:35
DaemonFCyou'll save the planet one sex novelty item at a timeJun 16 00:35
formic_LolJun 16 00:36
formic_If you do that right wingers will outnumber youJun 16 00:36
DaemonFCoh well, I will grow old and die anyway, and I won't leave behind any of my kids for any of their kids to fuck overJun 16 00:37
DaemonFCso last laugh is on meJun 16 00:37
formic_NahJun 16 00:37
formic_They will laugh well after your death Jun 16 00:37
DaemonFClet their own kids deal with the shithole the planet has becomeJun 16 00:38
formic_Then the anarchists will kill them and laugh harder Jun 16 00:38
DaemonFCat least with the reverse evolution that birth control is causing, only the rich and stupid will be around to die with the planetJun 16 00:38
DaemonFCI can see humanity reaching a point where it is surrounded by advanced technology and very few people understand how any of it worksJun 16 00:40
DaemonFCin fact, we're here!Jun 16 00:40
DaemonFCB-)Jun 16 00:40
formic_Space exploring Jun 16 00:42
oiaohmDaemonFC: We are very much following the robotech story.Jun 16 00:42
oiaohmDaemonFC: not many countries can make new silcon chips.Jun 16 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Franke James Ode to the Omnibudget: "What is Harper Afraid Of? [illustrated essay]" http://tmblr.co/ZMDc9xNTUZOEJun 16 01:10
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-jtrucks-[Global Notice] - A reminder that at 2PM UTC on Saturday we have our long awaited services upgrade and database prune. All nicks unused for 150 days or more will be dropped from the database. Please make sure you have identified to your accounts and used your grouped nicks before the upgrade begins. Thank you!Jun 16 01:12
-jtrucks-[Global Notice] - Our services upgrade is scheduled for 2PM UTC on Saturday. We expect services to be unavailable for up to an hour, so please plan your channel management accordingly. Thank you!Jun 16 01:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tumbling my days of the week: http://laurelrusswurm.tumblr.com/tagged/daysoftheweekJun 16 01:15
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DaemonFCthat filter pitcher did a pretty good jobJun 16 01:23
DaemonFCthe tap water in this town tastes like swimming pool waterJun 16 01:24
DaemonFCand it has little specks floating in itJun 16 01:24
DaemonFCthe instruction manual says change the filter every 3 months, I better make it 2Jun 16 01:24
DaemonFCthe water in this town is just horribleJun 16 01:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] #TheEstablishment formula established: e=mc² (Establishment is equal to money multiplied by coffee-for-all squared)Jun 16 01:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] As for why #OpenBar didn't last, I think it was because of #troll'ing by that guy from #MaltaJun 16 01:31
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DaemonFCuggghJun 16 01:46
DaemonFCit's going to get up over 100 tomorrowJun 16 01:46
DaemonFCyikesJun 16 01:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Sleep well and enjoy the music @kevie and @hgfernan !tzafJun 16 01:58
oiaohmDaemonFC: some towns you are better to run a condener than clean the water.Jun 16 02:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] How does one get on that list? Plenty of people seem to assume I'm on it but I've never been invited.Jun 16 02:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freenodestaff/@freenodestaff] Per http://goo.gl/v2Uoh and recent global notices, services will be offline for about an hour at 2PM UTC for upgrades and a database prune.Jun 16 02:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[freenodestaff/@freenodestaff] Blog post: http://ur1.ca/9if29 - freenode's group registration system has been temporarily closed.Jun 16 02:35
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DaemonFCmovie theater company sends out cheap ticket invites to Batman triple featureJun 16 03:07
DaemonFCcauses rush on their siteJun 16 03:08
DaemonFCWindows Server collapses, I can't buy a ticketJun 16 03:08
DaemonFCFAILJun 16 03:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Cold shower.Jun 16 05:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Successfully uploaded a gpx trace of an important link road in Kisii municipality to !osm Can't believe it wasn't on the map.Jun 16 05:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Check out this photo I took of a classroom at KUC Town Campus @perpetuahsugar @mtwita @tcsmola @qelvin http://ur1.ca/9ifmvJun 16 05:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Wonder if anyone other than me, uses their gCals?Jun 16 05:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laf0rge/@laf0rge] amazing amount of rainfall during the last hour in #taipei. lucky I didn't go for a motorbike ride today.Jun 16 07:11
-mrmist-Our services upgrade and database prune is scheduled to start at 2pm GMT, which is just slightly less than 7 hours away. There will be no chanserv or nickserv for around an hour. Consider opping up on your channels in advance of the outage. More messages to follow.Jun 16 07:12
-mrmist-The observant ones noticed that my last message contained an error, it's 8 hours away from how. Remember also that this outage will contain our database prune. Nicks older than 150 days unused will be dropped from the nickserv database. Remember to identify to your accounts and use your alt nicks. THanks! Jun 16 07:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] #Statusnet sites used to be able to dereference bitly links and show the destination on mouseover. Bothers me that this changed.Jun 16 08:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Got another class at 5pm. :-)Jun 16 08:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Phones low on charge. Plus I forgot my ATM cards at home. Sucky Saturday. :-(Jun 16 08:23
RetroSechow many cards do you have?Jun 16 08:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This would be my Flickr stream http://ur1.ca/8zzp7Jun 16 08:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Will set up my identi.ca to mirror my Flickr photostream feed. Soon.Jun 16 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@ItsBuddhaBlaze: RT @NdoxMigogo: June 16 1976. We salute those young heroes who took a stand on that day. What's your stand? #YouthDay"Jun 16 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] The horror! :PJun 16 08:56
RetroSeci once stood on the concept of you must put a pinch of salt in ice creamJun 16 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Bored. So I am going to code an e-ticketing system for #ke shuttles and buses as my Saturday project, improving my skills and suchJun 16 08:58
RetroSecwill you get paid?Jun 16 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hier draußen tobt grad der samstägliche Rasenmäherkampf. Im Moment führt der Nachbar von schräg gegenüber mit ge... http://b1t.it/bCTVJun 16 09:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] View from the hotel room in Brussels http://ur1.ca/9igjsJun 16 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fellowship meeting yesterday in the #metalab was really cool. Thanks to all the !fellows there!!!Jun 16 09:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's a quarter to birds here, @sanderschJun 16 09:43
RetroSecyesterday is still youngJun 16 09:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My Tumblr Bill C-32 Omnibudget Protest Gallery http://www.ur1.ca/9igla !CDNpoli !CanadaJun 16 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It is time again for the official Saturday program. Packing up stuff for my visit to the dump.Jun 16 09:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] morning @sandersch!Jun 16 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The story about the 9-year old girld and her blog about the food she gets at school has a direct result: 816%. Read th... http://b1t.it/bCUsJun 16 09:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Japan's appetite for whale meat wanes - http://bit.ly/K9KcjO well done, Japanese people: just say no... #whalingJun 16 10:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Local o'clock. w/ @philosemaJun 16 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] good analysis of awful “investor state” dispute resolution panels of #TPP and why #NZ would be insane to accept them - http://bit.ly/LO556YJun 16 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 4 Steps to immunity from UK snooping laws - http://bit.ly/NFcEjm immunity, no, but it wil slow them down a bitJun 16 10:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The state of #Hadoop: Strong and poised to explode - http://bit.ly/L2RWtP not literally, one hopes...good to see #opensource powering aheadJun 16 10:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The state of #Hadoop: Strong and poised to explode - http://bit.ly/L2RWtP not literally, one hopes...good to see #opensource powering aheadJun 16 10:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Zealand's High Court Steps Into Extradition Fight Over Kim Dotcom - http://bit.ly/M1IHWk good see some backbone here #nzJun 16 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody 4 Steps to immunity from UK snooping laws - http://bit.ly/NFcEjm immunity, no, but it wil slow them down a bitJun 16 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] My tumblr is supposed to be for fun, but I had to post a ton of !Canada protest photos ... skip past to page 4 http://www.ur1.ca/9igqn :)Jun 16 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Long Before #VPNs Become Illegal? - http://bit.ly/LbUUdY a growing concern for me...Jun 16 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ... best be crawling into my lair before the full sun hits .... 'gnight !identiverseJun 16 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone notice the Irony? http://ur1.ca/9igr9Jun 16 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone notice the Irony? http://ur1.ca/9igraJun 16 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone notice the Irony? http://ur1.ca/9igrbJun 16 10:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @glynmoody How Long Before #VPNs Become Illegal? - http://bit.ly/LbUUdY a growing concern for me...Jun 16 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody How Long Before #VPNs Become Illegal? - http://bit.ly/LbUUdY a growing concern for me...Jun 16 10:33
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1714720Jun 16 11:10
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schestowitz"Verry true."Jun 16 11:10
schestowitzHi RetroSecJun 16 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Based on cascade training with just 10 negatives and 20 positives (various cars and distances, poses). The real FPS rat http://ur1.ca/9ih1eJun 16 11:25
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1714613Jun 16 11:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: testing #jitsi https://jitsi.org/index.php/Main/HomePage Finally something that might actually be a good #freesoftware alternative to that bloody effing #Skype?Jun 16 11:29
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schestowitz"Jitsi is undoubtedly a really nice tool and a tough compeitor to skype but like everything else it has to be accepted by the masses to get the breakthrough.. Maybe people should think more about the software they use.. maybe then they would move to free software..."Jun 16 11:29
schestowitznetwork effect and peer pressure are a problem when it takes two to tango (phone, chat, etc.)Jun 16 11:30
schestowitzformic_: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1714603Jun 16 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # Why Opera IS a great Browser # Before Firefox 4 arrived, my main Browser used to be Opera. Eventually I moved away from it because it's not Open Source. But I'm still keeping an installation of it and even after a long time using Firefox, there are still Opera features I really miss in Firefox, some of which can't be replaced by plugins. ## an innovative Browser ## Opera has a long history of being innovaJun 16 11:30
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schestowitz"I don't use Opera because it was buggy. Haven't tried the latest builds though, so it may have improved."Jun 16 11:30
schestowitz"It's buggy with a lot of other websites, too. Sadly nobody out on the web supports Opera, so things always break. It's not really their fault, but since noone cares about web standards, the only way to solve this would be to make their engine 100% compatible with Webkit or Firefox ... if they don't do that, they will never get away from their tiny market share."Jun 16 11:31
schestowitz"It's proprietary, and I have very nice FLOSS browsers :P"Jun 16 11:31
schestowitz"I really like Opera, and the lack of standards compliance in websites isn't their fault. Opera mini is tiny, which is important to me on my HTC desire (that is always running out on memory)."Jun 16 11:31
schestowitz"<rant>Konqueror supported these features (tabs, download manager, bittorrent support, session saving, mouse gestures, subwindows (split windows) with arbitrary KPart-supported content...) even before Opera, but it is still less popular ;-), only its commodified engine (WebKit) is popular. it also supports any content on any protocol: http://whilos.blogsite.org/?p=157 including write support where available. I have reported a bug to Jun 16 11:31
schestowitzsupport magnet: protocol in Opera for Bittorrent, yet I have not received a reply since over a year... </rant>"Jun 16 11:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: KDE = P2P desktop or Join the global magnetic field! | whilo's blogsite .::. Size~: 49.13 KBJun 16 11:31
schestowitz"h0nest Annie: +9999!"Jun 16 11:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] brdcst.it was rendered quite dysfunctional a few months ago when a software update had been applied.Jun 16 11:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android #tablets beating out iPad in business and IT: Report http://ur1.ca/9ih6v Linux >> Apple. Linux hype < Apple hype.Jun 16 12:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android tablets beating out iPad in business and IT: Report | ITworld .::. Size~: 126.87 KBJun 16 12:01
oiaohmhttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/microsoft-aol-close-1056-billion-patent-deal/80027Jun 16 12:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Newegg: No, We'll Totally Take Returns After You Install #Linux http://ur1.ca/9ih9j running away from #pr disaster.Jun 16 12:21
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iophkhttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228158/Apple_charges_54_more_to_replace_Retina_MacBook_Pro_s_battery?taxonomyId=12Jun 16 12:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The return of a bad idea - http://bit.ly/NFnAgQ historical parallel to UK's proposed warrantless #surveillance programme (v @privacyint)Jun 16 12:35
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iophk"Apple's price for replacing the Retina MacBook Pro's battery is $199"Jun 16 12:35
iophkDisposable computers are not very green.Jun 16 12:36
iophkhttp://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5898696/new-macbook-pro-called-unrepairableJun 16 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Und plötzlich sind wir kriminell - http://bit.ly/Mx9Cf1 disproportionate enforcement is pushing #copyright into irrelevanceJun 16 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Green from the Grassroots - http://bit.ly/MfDCIf wise words from late Elinor Ostrom #rioJun 16 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from André Krüger http://ur1.ca/9ihhyJun 16 13:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Firefox 13 tripped up by Flash patch - Update - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/nqWBz another piece of crap made by adobe!!! die flash dieJun 16 13:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Rupert Murdoch pressured Tony Blair over Iraq, says Alastair Campbell http://goo.gl/emFF6Jun 16 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hunt for cigarette eye stab blonde http://goo.gl/IRNAC #Leeds #UKJun 16 13:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ringmark now fully open sourced - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/4inS6 #flossJun 16 13:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] NVIDIA recommends new MacBook Pro to CUDA developers - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/VqPJi and also #gnulinuxJun 16 13:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Funnyjunk's Lawyer Charles Carreon Just Keeps Digging: Promises He'll Find Some Law To Go After Oatmeal's Matt Inman http://goo.gl/QJNf7Jun 16 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Skype for Linux 4.0 released, moves out of beta - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/sAf7b microsoft happy with #gnulinux http://goo.gl/oKujGJun 16 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Last window of hope for EU #transparency talks still open - http://bit.ly/MfN9yY let's hopeJun 16 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opposition grows to 'Snoopers' Charter' amid data-mining fears - http://bit.ly/LUZm1v yes: #datamining one of the key problems (v @Glinner)Jun 16 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] backed my #Logitech LS1 mouse endorsement with a purchase, shoulda done it yesterday, but it's on it's way \o/Jun 16 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Notes From The #Ebook Trenches - http://tcrn.ch/KJf24n "choose to pay for the things they enjoy, sometimes after they’ve enjoyed them." yupJun 16 14:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Running X11 applications under #Wayland - The H Open Source http://goo.gl/azRuc oh my!!! why complicate? go X!!!!Jun 16 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » #Syria: #Clinton Admits U.S. On Same Side As Al Qaeda To Destabilize Assad Government http://goo.gl/2x6rZ #usa #natoJun 16 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Just What Is Mario Draghi Hiding? #ECB Declines To Respond To Bloomberg FOIA Request On Greek-Goldman Swaps | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/NN1R3Jun 16 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Is #Greece heading for a #diebold moment? http://goo.gl/9X4AM , http://goo.gl/bzyU4 ; #hackingdemocracy http://ur1.ca/9ii5gJun 16 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] My #vagina monologue: what #Michigan #GOP lawmakers didn't want to know http://goo.gl/uGo3eJun 16 15:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Stability problems /w Debian Testing. Migrated to #Kubuntu, not part of Canonical. Let's hope Kubuntu will not sellout to #MicrosoftJun 16 15:18
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DaemonFCMitch Daniels continues to sign laws that claim to "give us rights"Jun 16 16:07
DaemonFCA law cannot give rights, a law can only take rights away.Jun 16 16:07
DaemonFCIf a law is passed that says you are specifically allowed to do something which was never illegal to begin with, then there is no point in enacting the law.Jun 16 16:08
schestowitz[16:07] <DaemonFC> A law cannot give rights, a law can only take rights away.Jun 16 16:09
schestowitz+1Jun 16 16:09
schestowitzor prevent them getting taken awayJun 16 16:09
schestowitz!google holland net neutralityJun 16 16:10
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Netherlands passes net neutrality law, first among EU nations | The ... | http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/9/3009157/netherlands-net-neutrality-law-passes-senateJun 16 16:10
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Dutch Lawmakers Adopt Net Neutrality Law - NYTimes.com | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/technology/23neutral.html%3Fpagewanted%3DallJun 16 16:10
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Holland has pure net neutrality | http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/27115-holland-has-pure-net-neutralityJun 16 16:10
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - BBC News - Netherlands makes net neutrality a law | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13886440Jun 16 16:10
DaemonFCschestowitz: Political posturing in this case.Jun 16 16:10
DaemonFCIndiana passed a law that says you're allowed to carry guns in a state park.Jun 16 16:10
DaemonFCEven though there was no law that said you couldn't.Jun 16 16:10
DaemonFCin the absence of a law that says I can't do something, I assert that I can do that thingJun 16 16:12
DaemonFCIndiana has so many offices with executive powers that there's really no reason for us to even have a governorJun 16 16:13
DaemonFCas far as state governor's go, Indiana's is the least powerful governor in the entire countryJun 16 16:14
DaemonFCmost of the powers that a governor typically has are held with offices that are elected separately from the governorJun 16 16:14
DaemonFCif he vetoes a bill, the General Assembly can overrule him with a simple majority vote in the originating chamber (which makes it less difficult to override a veto than it was to send him the bill in the first place)Jun 16 16:15
DaemonFCit reminds me of The Bobs from Office SpaceJun 16 16:16
DaemonFC"Would you mind telling us.....exactly what it is you do here?"Jun 16 16:16
DaemonFCB-)Jun 16 16:16
DaemonFCthe only really meaningful thing an Indiana governor can actually do is call a special session of the General AssemblyJun 16 16:17
DaemonFChe's also in command of the Indiana National Guard, except when he's notJun 16 16:19
DaemonFCschestowitz: I think we have the opposite problem of a dictatorship here.Jun 16 16:20
DaemonFCa Constitution that is so afraid of someone having too much power that it puts it into the hands of hundreds of bureaucrats insteadJun 16 16:21
DaemonFCI think if you're going to set someone up to get most of the blame when things go wrong, or most of the praise when things go well, that you should hand them enough authority to steer the way things are going.Jun 16 16:23
DaemonFCthen when none of them want to put their name on something, they put it on a ballot and make me vote on itJun 16 16:26
DaemonFC"I see what you did there!"Jun 16 16:26
DaemonFCMinceR would probably like thatJun 16 16:27
schestowitzwhy?Jun 16 16:28
DaemonFC"Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms." - AristotleJun 16 16:28
DaemonFCMinceR likes the idea of 51% passes anythingJun 16 16:29
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 16:29
DaemonFCand when something like "property tax caps" comes up, the people who own land will vote to lower their property taxesJun 16 16:30
DaemonFCeven when the people who don't own land will end up paying higher sales taxJun 16 16:30
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 16:30
DaemonFCso my landlord got himself a nice big fat tax breakJun 16 16:31
DaemonFCand I get to pay another 1% on everything I buy to fund itJun 16 16:31
DaemonFCisn't that fair? Jun 16 16:31
DaemonFCI mean, after all, it was DEMOCRACY!Jun 16 16:31
DaemonFCthe rich landowners voted to raise my taxesJun 16 16:31
DaemonFCand there's not a damned thing I could do about it because more than half the population of the state owns land and wants their personal taxation levels to decrease Jun 16 16:32
DaemonFCand these bastards at INDOR wonder why people get online and order shit from AmazonJun 16 16:33
DaemonFChello, 7% sales tax that used to be 6%, that was 5% before that!Jun 16 16:34
DaemonFCit's just keeps going up so that they can give all the rich people their tax breaksJun 16 16:34
DaemonFCI don't see any reduction in my rent when my landlord's taxes go downJun 16 16:34
DaemonFCbut I do pay sales taxJun 16 16:34
DaemonFCI suppose you might make the theory that if they didn't go down then inflation combined with an unchanged taxation rate on property taxes might have compelled him to raise my rentJun 16 16:36
DaemonFCand that I might have been spared a rent increaseJun 16 16:36
DaemonFCbut there's no way to know what would have happenedJun 16 16:36
DaemonFChe's obviously not hurting for money if he let Dawn live there for six months without paying any rentJun 16 16:37
DaemonFCas she went through $30 worth of booze and cigarettes a day and sucked and screwed everything she could find at the local barsJun 16 16:38
DaemonFCI put it like this on the radio the other day.... "They tax us like we live in Massachusetts and give us public services like we live in Arkansas. Pick one already!"Jun 16 16:44
DaemonFCif we're going to live on the very fringes of what could be considered modern civilization, we shouldn't be paying the kind of state taxes we are payingJun 16 16:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: He had one of the famous unions of protestant and catholic, or sunni and shiaJun 16 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Presses Hard for Android Bans While Android Leapfrogs Apple in Tablets, Not Just Phones http://ur1.ca/9iikb #apple #androidJun 16 16:46
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DaemonFCinstead of improving infrastructure (water, roads, etc.) they hire more thugs (police) and give them new thug cruisers Jun 16 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Our products just aren't engineered for security." -Brian Valentine, Microsoft executiveJun 16 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As Hardware Prices Fall, Windows Becomes Far Too Expensive to Compete With Linux http://ur1.ca/9iilh #android #linuxJun 16 16:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: As Hardware Prices Fall, Windows Becomes Far Too Expensive to Compete With Linux | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.37 KBJun 16 16:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: had a chat today about itJun 16 17:05
schestowitzpeople are not aware of those thingsJun 16 17:05
schestowitzI lost hopeJun 16 17:05
schestowitzThis guy whom I talked to for half an hour is from AfghanistanJun 16 17:06
schestowitzhe's just so thankful for what he got here that he's willing to defend all the injusticesJun 16 17:06
schestowitzlike predatory bankers and fraudJun 16 17:06
schestowitzclass war, spying...Jun 16 17:06
schestowitzvery weird..Jun 16 17:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Groklaw Article Advocates Not Getting Rid of All Software Patents http://ur1.ca/9iinm #groklaw #swpatsJun 16 17:06
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schestowitzSome people go like, OK.... let's just accept everything that's wrong because I'm feeling OKJun 16 17:06
schestowitzBy the time they're out in the streets they're too feeble to educate themselves about what's going on and moreso to do soemthing about itJun 16 17:07
schestowitzlike even the printing of flyers or bannersJun 16 17:07
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94662746Jun 16 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Saturday, 16-Jun-12 16:00:58 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz why would they? It's not like they get blamed. Everyone uses MS software so it probably supposed to be this way.Jun 16 17:08
DaemonFCschestowitz: They raised our water bills 47.5% over the last two yearsJun 16 17:14
DaemonFCthe quality of the water has gotten worseJun 16 17:14
DaemonFCthere's stuff floating in it and it tastes like swimming pool waterJun 16 17:14
DaemonFCI eventually broke down yesterday and bought a filtering pitcherJun 16 17:14
DaemonFCit should be interesting to see how they fudge this year's EPA/IDEM mandated water quality reportJun 16 17:15
DaemonFCI don't know how you can increase the chlorination levels without a rise in trihalomethanes Jun 16 17:16
DaemonFCsomehow they manage to get their readings into compliance at the injection point, but I don't think what comes out of my tap would passJun 16 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 16/6/2012: Deploying Chromebooks, New Mandriva Foundation http://ur1.ca/9iir1 #techrightsJun 16 17:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 16/6/2012: Deploying Chromebooks, New Mandriva Foundation | Techrights .::. Size~: 106 KBJun 16 17:20
schestowitz"True words :-)"Jun 16 17:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1716174Jun 16 17:22
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One of the reasons I got into web forums and news clippings if that in 2004 I had a lot of idle time waiting for experiments to complete.Jun 16 17:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1702431Jun 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is this the end of Windows Server? http://ajfisher.me/2012/06/10/is-this-the-end-of-windows-server/ #microsoft #windows #gnu #linuxJun 16 17:23
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schestowitz@Justin: Microsoft SQL and Exchange Server are two reasons someone (or a corporate entity) will run Windows on a server. Then there's the far larger knowledge base and availability of people who have experience supporting it.Jun 16 17:23
schestowitzThose might not seem like valid reasons for you, but if you've ever worked in a large IT department for a company with thousands of users, you'll understand how hard it is to use anything else, especially when the CIOs have little to no experience with or desire for other solutions, and why Windows Server products are just so prevalent.Jun 16 17:23
schestowitz"Jun 16 17:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1716246Jun 16 17:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A few years ago #torvalds complained that news sites - even #slashdot - chose headlines to sensationalise. [...] BBC chose to associate Linux with "Selfishness" _in its headline_. Could it have done a better job? Seems like FUD, no? #bait #trollJun 16 17:23
schestowitz"Does anyone have the headline available for examination, and also a link to the article?"Jun 16 17:23
schestowitz[17:14] <DaemonFC> the quality of the water has gotten worseJun 16 17:23
schestowitzit always gets worseJun 16 17:23
schestowitzthere's more of us humans pissing in it and throwing chemicals in it... non-organicJun 16 17:24
schestowitzjust got this:Jun 16 17:24
schestowitz"Jun 16 17:24
schestowitzHello,Jun 16 17:24
schestowitzI have a quick and simple [I hope] question. What are the shortcommings of using mono-based app? I've checked all linux dock-apps and didn't find anything reasonable but Docky. The problem is that Docky is based on Mono, which - from what I heard - is not a good thing. Is it a security threat to use mono-based apps?Jun 16 17:24
schestowitzRegardsJun 16 17:24
schestowitz"Jun 16 17:24
schestowitzMono helps those who oppose software freedom and technically speaking it's also bloatedJun 16 17:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1718574Jun 16 17:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Our products just aren't engineered for security." -Brian Valentine, Microsoft executiveJun 16 17:25
schestowitzhaha! good irony!""Jun 16 17:25
schestowitz"Jun 16 17:29
schestowitzOk. Thank you for your reply!Jun 16 17:29
schestowitzBTW do you know any good alternatives to Mono? [the ones that are not that popular and not that easy to find]Jun 16 17:29
schestowitz"Jun 16 17:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Mono_ApplicationsJun 16 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: A Cellphone for Every Woman http://t.co/IsR7imSN http://p.ost.im/p/evaybUJun 16 17:38
iophkMono is bloated and produces unstable apps.Jun 16 17:38
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iophkSo perhaps this is the reason for both the exorbitant OEM prices for ARM Windows and for the attempt to lock out other systems from ARM :  http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Microsoft-Windows-Tablet-Has-its-Sightts-Set-on-iPad-Kindle-619468/Jun 16 17:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Windows Tablet Has its Sights Set on iPad, Kindle - Mobile and Wireless - News & Reviews  - eWeek.com .::. Size~: 119.37 KBJun 16 17:56
iophkhttp://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2012Jun 16 18:08
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schestowitzthanksJun 16 18:19
schestowitzI have some more posts in draftsJun 16 18:19
schestowitz6 moreJun 16 18:19
schestowitzone about NOKJun 16 18:19
iophkOne reason for M$ making its own tablets might be that none of the OEMs were willing to touch the project with a barge pole. Jun 16 18:24
schestowitzSamsung tried Origami onceJun 16 18:24
schestowitzI don't think it ever let Vistagami flyJun 16 18:24
schestowitzit was too fatJun 16 18:24
schestowitzand origami hardluy soldJun 16 18:24
schestowitzMS tablets in general sold a total of 1 million at one point, IIRCJun 16 18:25
schestowitzI mean, those old chubby tabletsJun 16 18:25
schestowitzlike 4 KGJun 16 18:25
schestowitznot 0.4 KGJun 16 18:25
schestowitzlaptop with touchscreen morelikeJun 16 18:25
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DaemonFCby sold, you mean......at a massive reduction in prices to get rid of them?Jun 16 18:25
DaemonFCAKA "Fire Sale Prices"Jun 16 18:25
DaemonFCAKA "Zune"Jun 16 18:25
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 18:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1718508Jun 16 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr@sirkodrive@wk3.org reshared: #fake #alle-gegen-bild #acabJun 16 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by kickaha@diasp0ra.ca: https://diasp0ra.ca/uploads/images/thumb_medium_a45af33f63af4fec60e4.jpgJun 16 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by kickaha@diasp0ra.ca: https://diasp0ra.ca/uploads/images/thumb_medium_a45af33f63af4fec60e4.jpgJun 16 18:26
DaemonFCI'd have to get a pretty damned good price on a Zune, and I still wouldn't buy one unless their variant of MTP is reverse engineeredJun 16 18:26
schestowitzandroid uses ntp alsoJun 16 18:30
schestowitzin ICSJun 16 18:30
schestowitzf*ing PITAJun 16 18:30
schestowitzJust got a "Big thanks! " re the mono adviceJun 16 18:32
*DaemonFC has more or less stopped using GoogleJun 16 18:41
DaemonFCtheir search engine results have deteriorated and they are starting to copy some of the features of Duck Duck GoJun 16 18:42
DaemonFCpoorlyJun 16 18:42
DaemonFCschestowitz: I might send a water sample off to IDEM from my kitchen sink just to see what is actually coming out of my tapJun 16 18:46
DaemonFCthey will send a test kit out for $10Jun 16 18:46
DaemonFCthat should be interestingJun 16 18:47
DaemonFChttp://www.in.gov/idem/5096.htmJun 16 18:47
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DaemonFChttp://www.huntington.in.us/egov/docs/1339505521_224700.pdfJun 16 18:50
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DaemonFCin 2012, there are more contaminates than in 2011Jun 16 18:52
DaemonFCin 2011 Chromium and Barium weren't detectedJun 16 18:53
brendynDaemonFC: what?? their results have deteriorated?Jun 16 18:53
DaemonFCand now we have Uranium, radon, and beta/photon emitters Jun 16 18:53
DaemonFCoh greatJun 16 18:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1714603Jun 16 18:54
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: # Why Opera IS a great Browser # Before Firefox 4 arrived, my main Browser used to be Opera. Eventually I moved away from it because it's not Open Source. But I'm still keeping an installation of it and even after a long time using Firefox, there are still Opera features I really miss in Firefox, some of which can't be replaced by plugins. ## an innovative Browser ## Opera has a long history of being innovaJun 16 18:54
schestowitz"Jun 16 18:54
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DaemonFCbrendyn: apparently we now have more contaminates that we never had before in detectable amounts Jun 16 18:54
schestowitzHmm besides the fancyness of Diaspora and its lack to make it easily hackable by outside parties, which pushed me to Friendica, how am I supposed to add your profile? I cannot find your nick AT joindiaspora.com anymore on your page. I could guess, but this annoys me a bit. Diaspora seems to be focused primarily on its own success and not on federated social networking... :-/Jun 16 18:54
schestowitz"Jun 16 18:54
DaemonFCincluding radioactive onesJun 16 18:54
schestowitz"Are you involved in KDE development?"Jun 16 18:55
schestowitz"Nope, I'm still just learning Qt ATM :D"Jun 16 18:55
brendynwhereJun 16 18:55
iophkDiaspora could benefit by hiring or contracting someone that knows HTML and CSS to make web pages that are accessible in more than a tiny handful of browsers.Jun 16 18:55
schestowitz[18:41] * DaemonFC has more or less stopped using GoogleJun 16 18:55
schestowitzsame hereJun 16 18:55
schestowitzI use lxquick and Google only if I have no other choiceJun 16 18:55
iophkSame here, though DDG is still lacking in search results.Jun 16 18:55
brendynhave you heard of seeks?Jun 16 18:55
brendynyeah and its slowJun 16 18:55
brendynat least for meJun 16 18:56
iophkAnnoyingly Google now requires both Javascript and Cookies to use their News search.Jun 16 18:56
DaemonFC0.89 ppm fluoride Jun 16 18:56
schestowitziophk: yes, and they made it less compatible with many browsers over timeJun 16 18:56
brendynwhere are these contaminants?Jun 16 18:56
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schestowitzGoogle does a lot of ajaxJun 16 18:56
schestowitzijn youtube redesigns tooJun 16 18:57
schestowitzkonq is no longer working with youtube for uploadsJun 16 18:57
schestowitzI gave up and did what GOOG wanted... I upload via ChromiumJun 16 18:57
brendynmeh, i dont even look at youtube beyond grabbing a link and youtube-dlJun 16 18:57
DaemonFC"The U.S. specifies the optimal level of fluoride to range from 0.7 to 1.2 mg/L (milligrams per liter, equivalent to parts per million),  depending on the average maximum daily air temperature; the optimal  level is lower in warmer climates, where people drink more water, and is  higher in cooler climates."Jun 16 18:57
iophkIt may be Ajax but does not degrade gracefully and just plain does not work with either cookies off or javascript off.  JS is a security concern.Jun 16 18:57
iophkAnd privacy,Jun 16 18:57
DaemonFCapparently ours isn't usually added, because there's enough naturally occurring fluoride or farm fertilizer runoff to bring us in compliance with the lawJun 16 18:58
DaemonFCheheJun 16 18:58
brendyni saw an article where someone fixed firefox problems with google by changing its user agent to fake as chrome :)Jun 16 18:58
brendyni get the same bug -  pages simply stop loading for no reason. though i havnt tested that fixJun 16 18:59
DaemonFCyeah, that only works until they start checking again using JavascriptJun 16 18:59
DaemonFCthen you're fuckedJun 16 18:59
brendynso you also think google is screwing with firefox?Jun 16 18:59
DaemonFCunless someone writes a user script to make all the tests for Chrome's javascript engine passJun 16 18:59
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 18:59
brendyni dont even get the point of user agents, i dont want oneJun 16 18:59
DaemonFCbrendyn: No, I don't think Google is fucking with Firefox/Opera usersJun 16 18:59
brendynokJun 16 19:00
DaemonFCI....KNOW Google is fucking with Firefox/Opera usersJun 16 19:00
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 19:00
brendynwhere is this knowledge?Jun 16 19:00
brendyni.e, sourceJun 16 19:00
DaemonFCthey break certain features depending on your user agentJun 16 19:00
DaemonFCtry loading their image search results in Opera and see what happens when you change your google site prefs to Identify as Firefox (or Safari, or Chrome)Jun 16 19:01
DaemonFCeven though Opera is perfectly capable of using all the Google image search features, it hands Opera a degraded results page with fewer features, which is clearly meant for Internet Explorer usersJun 16 19:01
DaemonFCGoogle fucks with Opera a LOT more than they fuck with FirefoxJun 16 19:02
DaemonFCeven though Opera has a much better rendering engineJun 16 19:02
brendynoh well, its proprietary anywayJun 16 19:02
DaemonFCOpera is technically superior to Firefox in all ways except oneJun 16 19:03
DaemonFCtheir extensions support is somewhat worseJun 16 19:03
DaemonFCnot enough that you'd notice for the kind of extensions most people wantJun 16 19:03
brendynhow did they manage thatJun 16 19:03
DaemonFCbut the secure request rewrite API that would be needed for HTTPS Everywhere to be properly ported to Opera is not implementedJun 16 19:03
DaemonFCOpera extensions are more like Chrome extensions than Firefox extensionsJun 16 19:04
DaemonFCa Mozilla browser extension becomes a part of the browser itself and can do anythingJun 16 19:04
DaemonFCthat can be good or badJun 16 19:04
DaemonFCif it's a malicious extension or one with a lot of bugs it can do all sorts of naughty thingsJun 16 19:05
DaemonFCOpera and Chrome have a well defined API that is available to an extension and run the extension in what amounts to a sandboxJun 16 19:05
DaemonFCadditionally, Opera inspects all the extensions that are submitted to make sure they aren't maliciousJun 16 19:06
DaemonFCMozilla Add-Ons has had problems with malicious extensions being approved a few times and there seems to be no end to the number of poorly written ones they will approveJun 16 19:06
DaemonFCand since Mozilla has no requirements that extensions are to be free software, and an extension becomes part of the browser itself, installing most of the extensions on their site will make your browser nonfree software anywayJun 16 19:07
DaemonFCbut assuming the extension is well written and assuming that it isn't malicious (which are both big assumptions), sometimes the degree of control they have over the browser can be beneficialJun 16 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Hear ye, hear ye: The !establishment group has been established.Jun 16 19:08
DaemonFC(think HTTPS Everywhere or Adblock Plus)Jun 16 19:08
DaemonFCChrome has APIs now that enable real ad blocking and HTTPS Everywhere, but for a long time you couldn't really do either oneJun 16 19:09
DaemonFCOpera has a built-in content blocker which you can add a pre-made list of rules toJun 16 19:09
DaemonFCMozilla browsers have a lot of things wrong with them that effectively make them nonfree, at least the way they are often distributed or end up being used :)Jun 16 19:10
brendyntrisquel maintain a list of free pluginsJun 16 19:10
brendynsometimes the mozilla site simply doesnt mention the license, so its good to use thatJun 16 19:10
brendyni think ive installed nonfree plugins by accident beforeJun 16 19:11
DaemonFCif your definition of free software is that they have a pile of open source software laying around that one could conceivably compile and use, then Chrome is also free softwareJun 16 19:11
DaemonFCexcept that it isn't, but don't let a little thing like that stop you :)Jun 16 19:11
brendyn:PJun 16 19:11
DaemonFCmost people have Flash, Flash makes any browser that loads it nonfreeJun 16 19:12
brendyni dontJun 16 19:12
DaemonFCmost people install extensions, more than half of them on AMO will make your Mozilla browser nonfreeJun 16 19:12
DaemonFCmost people either use the Firefox binaries which are nonfree or get nonfree Firefox binaries from their distributionJun 16 19:12
DaemonFCand the official ones are even worse because they come statically linked to a bunch of libraries that are already on the systemJun 16 19:13
brendyni have noscript,  download them all (dont even use it), https everywhere, mozilla archive format, murdochalert. trueblockJun 16 19:13
DaemonFCChrome and Opera have the same issueJun 16 19:14
DaemonFCstatically linked private copies of libraries you already haveJun 16 19:14
brendynim using iceweasel, also. probably doesnt make much differenceJun 16 19:14
DaemonFCyou shouldn't use Trueblock, it is not maintainedJun 16 19:15
brendyndamnJun 16 19:15
DaemonFChe recommends Adblock Lite nowJun 16 19:15
brendynis that run by the same people?Jun 16 19:15
brendynas adblockJun 16 19:15
DaemonFCnoJun 16 19:15
DaemonFCit's a different forkJun 16 19:15
DaemonFCit follows Adblock Plus 2.0.x the code but leaves the interface from 1.4.xJun 16 19:15
DaemonFCthere's a patch against it that reverts the commit that added "acceptable ads"Jun 16 19:16
DaemonFCso the code itself isn't even thereJun 16 19:16
brendynthats what i wantedJun 16 19:16
DaemonFCthe "feature" itself was implemented in a way that makes it trivial to get rid ofJun 16 19:17
DaemonFCso the patch shouldn't need to change that muchJun 16 19:17
DaemonFCotherwise it can keep following whatever Adblock Plus does upstreamJun 16 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #CCDP First impressions: A bill with too few safeguards - http://bit.ly/MgDoAH NB "filtering" provisions - v problematic (v @lilianedwards)Jun 16 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Philipp Sickmann http://ur1.ca/9ijk1Jun 16 19:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] While europe should be closely watching and analyzing what happens tomorrow in Greece - an election that could result ... http://b1t.it/bC2gJun 16 19:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leveson Inquiry: how truth about David Cameron's meetings was revealed - http://bit.ly/MaOTgY fab graphic - kudos to dtel (v @jeffjarvis)Jun 16 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Lynn Russwurm's free Gore Park concert series features Randy Morrison & the Flatt River Band Sunday night http://www.ur1.ca/9ijmyJun 16 20:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Motorized projection screen fitted to the wall. Speakers on top. Ready for some cool movies. Or news. But alas, no new... http://b1t.it/bC2tJun 16 20:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1718600Jun 16 21:08
schestowitz"It should also be noted that PJ (Groklaw founder) states at the top of the article that this is not her opinion, but that of Professor Michael Risch, the article's author. It advocates a pragmatic approach, and is intended to spark debate."Jun 16 21:08
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Groklaw Article Advocates Not Getting Rid of All Software Patents http://techrights.org/2012/06/16/risch-on-software-patents/ #groklaw #swpatsJun 16 21:08
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DaemonFChttp://www.jerrydoyle.com/jd-vegas-cam-we-smokers-warned-you-the-health-police-would-come-after-you-aJun 16 21:12
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DaemonFChe's a bit too far to the right sometimes, but occasionally he makes a pointJun 16 21:15
DaemonFChe's correct that it is ridiculous to subsidize health insurance for a family of 4 that is making $96,000 a yearJun 16 21:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 156 dents!Jun 16 21:16
DaemonFCif anything, they should be doing something to help single people without any kids who are within 150% or so of the federal poverty levelJun 16 21:17
DaemonFCnobody talks about usJun 16 21:17
DaemonFCbut we're the ones getting fucked over here in this healthcare dealJun 16 21:17
DaemonFCit's ridiculous to say that a family of four that has a household income of $96,000 is poorJun 16 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > #ACAPOR confiante numa solução que passa por bloqueio dos piratas http://goo.gl/efbxr a #mafiaa e o seu aliado!Jun 16 21:18
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DaemonFCwhy is that stupid? well, let me tell you why that's stupid :)Jun 16 21:18
DaemonFCyou have one person in a house and one rent/mortgage paymentJun 16 21:19
DaemonFCyou have four people in a house, you've got......one rent/mortgage paymentJun 16 21:19
DaemonFCyou have one person in a house, you get dinged on groceries because you can't buy the massive sizes that gets you the special low unit pricing (usually)Jun 16 21:20
DaemonFCyou have four people in a house, you buy the econo-size version of everything because you don't worry so much about wasteJun 16 21:20
DaemonFCyou have one person in a room, you need to light that room with a lightbulb, having more people in a room doesn't make you have to light the room moreJun 16 21:21
DaemonFCyou have one person in a house, you need air conditioning and heat in the houseJun 16 21:21
DaemonFCyou have four people in a house, you're paying about the same thing to air condition or heat the houseJun 16 21:21
DaemonFCthe federal poverty guidelines are so fucking stupid, because they don't properly account for efficiencies that multi-person housholds have that single-person households don'tJun 16 21:22
DaemonFCand at some point, there's going to be a limit on how much income one person can make, but if you have two working adults in the house, you're at an advantageJun 16 21:23
DaemonFCbecause your bills don't double just because there's two of you with an income rather than oneJun 16 21:23
DaemonFCthey go up a little, but they don't doubleJun 16 21:23
DaemonFCI think the FPL should penalize multi-person households by accounting for the fact that they have roughly double the income but only about 20% or so higher operating expensesJun 16 21:24
DaemonFCbut it doesn'tJun 16 21:24
DaemonFC:DJun 16 21:24
DaemonFCso they take from me and give them moreJun 16 21:24
DaemonFCwhat else is new? am I right?Jun 16 21:25
DaemonFCthere's some more of MinceR's Democracy InactionJun 16 21:25
DaemonFC:)Jun 16 21:25
DaemonFCdemocracy necessarily takes from the have nots to give the haves more than they needJun 16 21:26
DaemonFCit's a redistribution of wealth FROM the poor, to the people who are middle class or aboveJun 16 21:26
DaemonFCand after this stupidity, you don't qualify for federal assistance AFTER the federal government has driven you into povertyJun 16 21:27
DaemonFCbecause "you don't have kids"Jun 16 21:27
DaemonFClike THAT should be encouraged!Jun 16 21:27
DaemonFCand after you have some kids, you still might not get help if you're a manJun 16 21:28
DaemonFCif you don't have custody of the kids you pay child supportJun 16 21:28
DaemonFCif you do have custody, you don't get welfare because you're not a womanJun 16 21:28
DaemonFCbut that hardly comes up because the courts are so biased towards women always getting the kids unless  you can prove she's an ax murderer or somethingJun 16 21:29
DaemonFCas we become more equal, all of this bullshit that makes men less equal keeps falling down from the liberal politiciansJun 16 21:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Let's take a vote on how equal we should all beJun 16 21:31
DaemonFCI'm sure that nobody will become a favorite because of simple numerical advantageJun 16 21:31
DaemonFC;)Jun 16 21:31
*DaemonFC is personally in favor of repealing all alimony, not just making sure that each gender gets 50% statisticallyJun 16 21:33
DaemonFCtell them to quit whining and go find a jobJun 16 21:33
DaemonFCof course, men only receive 3% of alimony payments while they pay 97% of themJun 16 21:34
DaemonFCbecause we're such an equal society of equalsJun 16 21:34
DaemonFCDoyle touches on the Dictator of New York City, Michael Bloomberg Jun 16 21:36
DaemonFCand that actually hits closer to home for me than you might think considering that Fort Wayne. Indiana has a mayor that points to whatever Bloomberg is up to and says "Hey! You guys! Let's do that here too!"Jun 16 21:37
DaemonFCso the soda bans and the restrictions on popcorn size and salt can't be far behindJun 16 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Group A flipping around in a way I never expected, I thought Russia were a dead cert, Greece hopeless, but that's !football #ec2012Jun 16 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Greece qualifying is a fantastic story given the country is on it's knees financially - good luck to them, they need a bit of a boostJun 16 21:40
DaemonFChttp://www.jerrydoyle.com/jd-vegas-cam-do-you-want-an-electronic-device-monitoring-your-driving_Jun 16 21:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] My favorite movie of all time? "Demolition Man" What else could it be? #MFMOATJun 16 21:50
DaemonFChttp://www.consumer-action.org/index.php/alerts/articles/insurance_premium_installment_feesJun 16 22:08
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DaemonFCGeico has a $4 a month installment fee for using debit/credit cards, but only a $1 a month fee if you use bank draft, so I set myself up for recurring bank draft and then end up paying it with my credit cardJun 16 22:09
DaemonFCthat way I get to use my card but only pay the $1 feeJun 16 22:09
DaemonFCand on the last month, you can get out of paying the last installment fee by choosing "remaining amount" before it becomes dueJun 16 22:10
DaemonFCso it gets you down from $48 a year in installment fees to $10Jun 16 22:10
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*DaemonFC really hates how they ding people for not paying in fullJun 16 22:11
DaemonFCwith a lot of car insurance companies, you'd actually be better off paying the term in full on a credit card even if it means you pay interest on it for a couple of monthsJun 16 22:12
DaemonFCbecause the installment fees will be higher than the interest on your credit cardJun 16 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @johnnynull: @nybill @thistleweb UFC: Ultimate Fighting CactiJun 16 22:30
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DaemonFCoh rightJun 16 22:57
DaemonFCit's not going to rain todayJun 16 22:57
DaemonFCthat's why there's a thudnerstorm comingJun 16 22:57
DaemonFCoh well, we need whatever we can getJun 16 22:58
DaemonFC90% of Indiana is now in "severe drought"Jun 16 22:59
DaemonFCthey're starting to talk about corn and soybean crops dyingJun 16 22:59
DaemonFCwhich means in a few months  grocery prices will skyrocket if the drought doesn't lift (then the federal government will pay the farmers for not growing anything)Jun 16 23:00
DaemonFCthen they shoot one cow and milk the other one and pour the milk down the drain Jun 16 23:01
DaemonFCthen they make you fill out paperwork about the missing cow Jun 16 23:01
DaemonFCI believe is how this one goes.....Jun 16 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Yes please. Then I can nominate @bkuhn and watch heads explode.Jun 16 23:41
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