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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @unseenstudio: In 2012 the average age of the podcast was 19 fwd4.me/13Ut #Crivins 19 is oot; enjoy #ccmusic #FOSS | Jun 19 00:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @johnnynull Investigated #debian bug 661099 and think of lassie barking, or even skippy the kangaroo | Jun 19 00:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tumblr'd ode to Carnegie Library . . . http://ur1.ca/9iyue !book !books #WPL #wrawesome #library | Jun 19 00:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If it's still meeting in secret, it's news to me.The mailing list was sent a "shut-down" message a considerable time ago & is not relevant. | Jun 19 00:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] All the same, being worthy to be trolled by both @fontana /and/ @bkuhn has to be some sort of mark of success. | Jun 19 00:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @kevie :) | Jun 19 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy birthday Paul (but I haven't been able to listen to that song since learning the Star Trek Filksong "Security"... | Jun 19 00:41 | |
| DaemonFC | parts of Indiana are moving into Severe Drought now | Jun 19 00:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Congratulations! | Jun 19 00:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Fascinating; I've not received such a message and believe the opposite to your prediction. | Jun 19 00:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @webmink All the same, being worthy to be trolled by both @fontana /and/ @bkuhn has to be some sort of mark of success. | Jun 19 01:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If you'd like one of those t-shirts, I just arranged for all of them to be shipped to OSCON... | Jun 19 01:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Let me know what you receive; I'll be interested to know both what it says and who it's from! | Jun 19 01:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Bahrain is arresting bloggers and preparing to pass new laws muzzling free expression on social networks: https://eff.org/r.a6dp | Jun 19 01:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] That's the spirit! We'll be giving one free to anyone who joins OSI at OSCON. | Jun 19 01:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] That can be arranged if you want. Or alternatively, if you don't. Both can work. | Jun 19 01:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] <cough> | Jun 19 01:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/234/thevetfatcatatevetnomde.jpg | Jun 19 03:46 |
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| formic_ | grow your beards! | Jun 19 04:32 |
| formic_ | i just had a discovery | Jun 19 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | can't grow beard | Jun 19 04:33 |
| formic_ | my beard was really long and it started getting itchy so i wanted to shave it off. all of a sudden i want to buy a windows 8 tablet | Jun 19 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | TSA will cavity search me | Jun 19 04:33 |
| formic_ | longer beards = more FLOSS appreciation | Jun 19 04:34 |
| formic_ | short or no beards = proprietary appreciation | Jun 19 04:34 |
| formic_ | look at Steve Jobs vs Richard Stallman | Jun 19 04:34 |
| formic_ | Steve Jobs = no beard | Jun 19 04:34 |
| formic_ | Richsard Stallman = mighty beard | Jun 19 04:34 |
| DaemonFC | I wish there was a way to just make it stop growing forever | Jun 19 04:34 |
| formic_ | you can | Jun 19 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | shaving it off again every morning is a major pain in the ass | Jun 19 04:35 |
| formic_ | well not YOU | Jun 19 04:35 |
| formic_ | you're too poor | Jun 19 04:35 |
| formic_ | rich guys get that shit lasered so it doesnt grow back | Jun 19 04:35 |
| formic_ | see? no beard and now im an asshole | Jun 19 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, except that does pore damage | Jun 19 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | and it will grow back again, just not for a while | Jun 19 04:36 |
| formic_ | no laser burns it | Jun 19 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | already looked into it | Jun 19 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyMjM | Jun 19 04:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Fedora 18 Will Preview A New Package Manager .::. Size~: 19.84 KB | Jun 19 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | ANOTHER ONE? | Jun 19 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | what the hell exactly was wrong with Yum Extender for that matter? | Jun 19 04:39 |
| formic_ | this will replace yum | Jun 19 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | while we're talking about GNOME stupidity | Jun 19 04:40 |
| formic_ | yum has been in use for ages | Jun 19 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want easier access to Google or Microsoft | Jun 19 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | I want easier ways to avoid them | Jun 19 04:40 |
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| formic_ | why dont you just get off the internet | Jun 19 04:40 |
| formic_ | that would save the planet you know | Jun 19 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | then where would all the porn come from? | Jun 19 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | idiot! | Jun 19 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 19 04:41 |
| formic_ | we dont want your gay porn | Jun 19 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah you do | Jun 19 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | you're just afraid you'll like it | Jun 19 04:41 |
| formic_ | you're causing murders in montreal | Jun 19 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | ONE, OK, this makes like ONE TIME that's happened and so everyone is like "ZOMG, HE WAS GAY!!!!" | Jun 19 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | well, OK, twice | Jun 19 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | forgot about Dahmer | Jun 19 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | can't forget about Dahmer (or Poland) | Jun 19 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | this shit literally happens every day and the only time you hear about it is when a gay person does it | Jun 19 04:43 |
| formic_ | you know DaemonFC - i wouldnt put it past you | Jun 19 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's like child molesters | Jun 19 04:43 |
| formic_ | whos that politician you hate in Indiana? | Jun 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | there's lots of Indiana politicians I hate | Jun 19 04:44 |
| formic_ | whos the idiot who runs the state | Jun 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | but if you're talking about one in particular, Mitch Daniels, the Governor | Jun 19 04:44 |
| formic_ | ah yes | Jun 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | I even have a Ditch Mitch sticker on my car | Jun 19 04:44 |
| formic_ | I wouldn't put it past you to cut someone up, and jerk yourself off with the limbs. I wouldn't put it past you to mail those body parts to Mitch Daniels. | Jun 19 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | thankfully our Constitution gets rid of them every 8 years to make way for something worse | Jun 19 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | so next year it'll be Mike Pence | Jun 19 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Jun 19 04:45 |
| formic_ | was that a hate crime? | Jun 19 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | nah, chop Mitch Daniels into pieces and mail them to Bush | Jun 19 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | then chop Bush into pieces and mail them to Rush Limbaugh | Jun 19 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | then chop him up and send him to Ann Coulter | Jun 19 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 19 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | in a cigar box with his oxycodone | Jun 19 04:46 |
| sebsebseb | jono: I expect you'll make a good father :) http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/06/17/my-first-fathers-day/ | Jun 19 04:47 |
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| DaemonFC | it's always the Republicans that make the best scandals | Jun 19 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | they're all up in arms about child molesters, then they get caught molesting children | Jun 19 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | they're all about the war on drugs, then they get caught snorting hillbilly crank | Jun 19 04:48 |
| formic_ | are you stalking jono ? | Jun 19 04:48 |
| formic_ | thats creepy | Jun 19 04:48 |
| formic_ | like the montreal gay porn killer! | Jun 19 04:48 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: no saw a dent about it | Jun 19 04:49 |
| sebsebseb | on Identica | Jun 19 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | jono is clearly a natalist pigdog | Jun 19 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 19 04:49 |
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| formic_ | sebsebseb ? | Jun 19 04:50 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: http://identi.ca/notice/94703197 | Jun 19 04:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 18-Jun-12 08:25:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Congrats to @jonobacon who's expecting a baby other than #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/9itmd | Jun 19 04:51 |
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| formic_ | dropbox is EEEEEEVIL, its in the cloud.. | Jun 19 04:51 |
| formic_ | i use gdrive | Jun 19 04:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-06/D9VF0OI83.htm | Jun 19 05:07 |
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| jono | sebsebseb, thanks! | Jun 19 05:08 |
| jono | DaemonFC, ahaha | Jun 19 05:08 |
| jono | I want that on a t-shirt | Jun 19 05:08 |
| jono | "Natalist Pigdog" | Jun 19 05:08 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: opera got a new logo | Jun 19 05:13 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: http://imgur.com/vAdJc | Jun 19 05:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Is it bounded some way, or an open-ended commitment? | Jun 19 05:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Parody songs. I never thought to look for them before until reminded of "Security" by @stav's link to Paul McCartney singing "Yesterday" | Jun 19 06:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] try not to be too evil, 1111aether :) | Jun 19 06:15 | |
| formic_ | schestowitz - ill write an article on opera, spyware as a service | Jun 19 06:25 |
| formic_ | tomorrow | Jun 19 06:25 |
| MinceR | formic_: i have no beard | Jun 19 06:27 |
| formic_ | then... | Jun 19 06:27 |
| formic_ | you're working for microsoft as a disinfo agent | Jun 19 06:27 |
| formic_ | ask msb_ he knows | Jun 19 06:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Filk songs are much more fun than trying to figure out how to resuscitate my Libreleft Books blog that I seem to have demolished. Tomorrow. | Jun 19 06:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The Art of Community website has seen some updates - see http://ur1.ca/o8g1 for details #artofcommunity #cls12 | Jun 19 06:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzaf !identiverse | Jun 19 06:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Be sure to get your copy of The Art of Community 2nd Edition - http://is.gd/LoH3U1 #artofcommunity | Jun 19 06:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan like me you qualify as a #Crit. | Jun 19 06:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/metacode/statuses/214857893571346432 http://twitter.com/metacode/statuses/214849983936077826 | Jun 19 07:01 |
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| schestowitz | formic_: cool | Jun 19 07:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] good morning @kevie! !tzag !identiverse! | Jun 19 07:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mairin visio fans wanting some free software love can open visio files in libreoffice draw and then replace visio with calligra flow | Jun 19 07:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The circle at the left shows whether the car is getting closer (white) or going away (red). The size of the circle is indicative of length. | Jun 19 07:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BSA Meets GNU/Linux in Europe, Confiscates PCs http://ur1.ca/9j0kp #bsa #microsoft #gnu #linux | Jun 19 07:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus #Torvalds gets a lot of attention (see the # of pages) http://ur1.ca/9j0ku | Jun 19 07:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bizarre and Dangerous Patents http://ur1.ca/9j0lp #patent #monopoly #uspto #android #swpats | Jun 19 07:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Fails to Convince That UEFI is Tolerable, Uses ‘Security’ as Talking Point http://ur1.ca/9j0py #uefi #redhat | Jun 19 08:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Billions for Indoctrinating Children http://ur1.ca/9j0q2 #billgates #megalomania #us #edreform | Jun 19 08:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @nj3ma @perpetuahsugar Informs me that the @raspberrypi is featured in @safaricomltd's inhouse mag "The Option" #winning | Jun 19 08:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @suraj "#Android dominating in #China, now accounts for 55.4% of #smartphone's, #iOS is at 12.4% http://goo.gl/NGRra " /cc @RamanusAsango | Jun 19 08:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone know why my OsmAnd POI commits aren't showing on !OSM ? | Jun 19 08:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Entryism at Nokia: Microsoft Takes Over From the Inside With More Moles, Linux-based Platforms Axed http://ur1.ca/9j0ta #linux | Jun 19 08:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Izabela krzyż! bit.ly/KPZk7v | Jun 19 08:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !BSD crash course. B0rked my system installing !GhostBSD, now it's the only one that will boot! | Jun 19 08:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 18 Will Preview A New Package Manager http://ur1.ca/9j0uf #fedora #redhat | Jun 19 08:46 | |
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| iophk | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/motorola-buys-psion-for-200m-82951 | Jun 19 08:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The latest talk from Linux founder Linus Torvalds (apart from the now-famous NVIDIA remark) http://ur1.ca/9j0v0 | Jun 19 08:50 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: what for? | Jun 19 08:57 |
| schestowitz | patents maybe? | Jun 19 08:57 |
| iophk | No clue. Probably patents but there is no mention of them in the article. | Jun 19 08:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Okay, Irish #EURO2012 signs just made my day: bit.ly/M9fkEu #MFW bit.ly/M9ffRe | Jun 19 08:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle Triggers Closer Red Hat, SAP Relationship http://ur1.ca/9j0xg #sap usually in bed with #Microsoft and #Novell | Jun 19 09:05 | |
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| iophk | schestowitz: some of the other articles suggest that Motorola is going after ruggedized and vehicle devices. | Jun 19 09:06 |
| iophk | If I understand correctly this is not the part of Motorola that went off to Google. | Jun 19 09:08 |
| schestowitz | it's becoming a crowded space | Jun 19 09:12 |
| schestowitz | many try to automate driving, me included | Jun 19 09:12 |
| schestowitz | but I'm not big corporation, just a research project funded by the European Research Council | Jun 19 09:12 |
| MinceR | if m$ gets into the market, i'll definitely need to get a tank | Jun 19 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Google has some efforts related to it | Jun 19 09:13 |
| schestowitz | Willow Garage also | Jun 19 09:13 |
| schestowitz | And some startups | Jun 19 09:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bulldozer | Jun 19 09:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the driver will give it BSOD | Jun 19 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Role of a #Linux #Kernel Maintainer http://ur1.ca/9j0zs by post-SUSE Greg K-H | Jun 19 09:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just passed 10k video views in #YouTube http://ur1.ca/9j108 | Jun 19 09:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lumigon T2 coming this summer for about 600 Euros? http://ur1.ca/9j11d #android #linux | Jun 19 09:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung QWERTY Slider With 720p Display Pictured For T-Mobile http://ur1.ca/9j11k physical keyboard needed for tactile http://ur1.ca/9j11l | Jun 19 09:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android marches on in #China, now accounts for 55.4% of #smartphones, iOS at 12.4% - http://tnw.co/KhjF3W big, important numbers | Jun 19 09:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Meet the IdolPad PLUS, a $98 #Android 4.0 tablet http://ur1.ca/9j125 a *little* cheaper than #hypePad and has more SW features. #linux | Jun 19 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mieczyslaw Weinberg: Chronological Collection on Spotify - http://bit.ly/MCCan9 amazing what's hidden away here | Jun 19 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The End of the World: The State vs. the Internet - http://bit.ly/M3cnpX important, thoughtful stuff | Jun 19 09:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Initiative Gets More Members http://ur1.ca/9j12m #osi #opensource | Jun 19 09:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dell To Sell Ubuntu PCs At Retail In India http://ur1.ca/9j131 #gnu #linux #india #ubuntu #dell | Jun 19 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First thoughts on the Finch Report: Good steps but missed opportunities - http://bit.ly/NKtYoi #openaccess continues its march to victory | Jun 19 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As tablet use grows, #Android use on par with #Apple, report says - http://cnet.co/L0lPoA thanks to #kindle - but does that count? | Jun 19 09:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As tablet use grows, Android use on par with Apple, report says | Mobile - CNET News .::. Size~: 89.25 KB | Jun 19 09:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Reuters misuses the word "hacker" http://ur1.ca/9j13p it means crackers | Jun 19 09:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Business & Financial News, Breaking US & International News | Reuters.com .::. Size~: 15.39 KB | Jun 19 09:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Summary: The latest talk from Linux founder Linus Torvalds (apart from the now-famous NVIDIA remark) Direct URL | Jun 19 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Summary: The latest talk from Linux founder Linus Torvalds (apart from the now-famous NVIDIA remark) Direct URL | Jun 19 09:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FSFE to Advance Fair Public IT Procurements in Finland - http://bit.ly/Ndeuqr a slog, but good someone is doing it #opensource | Jun 19 09:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brussels could 'clash' with London over UK snooper's charter - http://bit.ly/M3dXrM let's hope... | Jun 19 09:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brussels could 'clash' with London over UK snooper's charter • The Register .::. Size~: 28.42 KB | Jun 19 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva begins journey to a new foundation http://ur1.ca/9j15i | Jun 19 09:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mandriva begins journey to a new foundation | ITworld .::. Size~: 121.3 KB | Jun 19 09:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I'm about to ring MEPs on the #INTA committee about important #ACTA vote: why don't you do the same? - http://bit.ly/Moyowf | Jun 19 09:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Home - The Political Memory of la Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 95.7 KB | Jun 19 09:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaked #TPP Proposal Reveals That US Wants To Give Multinational Companies Tremendous Power http://goo.gl/VKGdl | Jun 19 09:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Leaked TPP Proposal Reveals That US Wants To Give Multinational Companies Tremendous Power | Techdirt .::. Size~: 99.49 KB | Jun 19 09:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Disruptive Innovation Is Not An Orderly Process http://goo.gl/TYKh2 | Jun 19 09:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Disruptive Innovation Is Not An Orderly Process | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.25 KB | Jun 19 09:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft need to sue itself for #trademark abuse over the name #Surface for it's tablet; didn't it check if an existing product was using? | Jun 19 09:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/watch-plastic-break-bleed-and-heal-itself-20120616/ | Jun 19 10:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Watch plastic break, bleed, and heal itself | Geek.com .::. Size~: 78.6 KB | Jun 19 10:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] !Linux #Kernel Browsing and Hacking using #KDevelop - http://bit.ly/PhN0PY via @linuxfoundation — !KDE | Jun 19 10:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kernel Browsing and Hacking using KDevelop | The Linux Foundation Video Site .::. Size~: 35.02 KB | Jun 19 10:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five Best Android Launchers http://ur1.ca/9j18h #android #linux | Jun 19 10:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five Best Android Launchers | Lifehacker Australia .::. Size~: 69.02 KB | Jun 19 10:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reaction to the Finch report - http://bit.ly/MoB5Oh @petermurrayrust - “good intentions and missed opportunities”. #openaccess | Jun 19 10:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jrepin #Linux #Kernel Browsing and Hacking using #KDevelop - http://bit.ly/PhN0PY via @linuxfoundation — #KDE | Jun 19 10:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Reaction to the Finch report « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 20.5 KB | Jun 19 10:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kernel Browsing and Hacking using KDevelop | The Linux Foundation Video Site .::. Size~: 35.02 KB | Jun 19 10:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Mozilla Abandoning Open Source #Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. http://ur1.ca/9j19h originally developed in #kde #khtml | Jun 19 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Mozilla Abandoning Open Source Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 35.19 KB | Jun 19 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux on the desktop, starting in the East: Dell launch with #Ubuntu at retail in #India http://ur1.ca/9j19y | Jun 19 10:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical and Dell announce today that Dell laptops pre-loaded with Ubuntu will be sold in 850 retail outlets in India. | Canonical .::. Size~: 31.85 KB | Jun 19 10:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Taiwanese PC/Tablet manufacturers are complaining that Microsoft wants to charge an enormous $85 licence for Windows" http://ur1.ca/9j1ae | Jun 19 10:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: $85 Windows RT Licence, can they make it optional? (dual-booting free Android) – ARMdevices.net .::. Size~: 57.13 KB | Jun 19 10:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Jim Allchin: “I am Scared [of GNU/Linux]” http://ur1.ca/288rs #linux | Jun 19 10:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Crucial #ACTA Vote: Will #INTA Committee Betray EU Citizens? - http://bit.ly/Lvi5RC your call or email can help make a difference | Jun 19 10:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microsoft’s Jim Allchin: “I am Scared [of GNU/Linux]” (Analysts Cartel Part II) | Techrights .::. Size~: 127.09 KB | Jun 19 10:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Crucial ACTA Vote: Will INTA Committee Betray EU Citizens? | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 30.55 KB | Jun 19 10:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do what you love (for a living), vacations will become pointless. If only more people realised happiness precedes money, not the opposite. | Jun 19 10:18 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/94252940#notice-94732652 http://identi.ca/notice/94732652 | Jun 19 10:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 12.94 KB | Jun 19 10:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Mikael (inscius)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 09:16:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz well millions of GNUs can cause a stampede ;) | Jun 19 10:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With nearly 50k indexed pages in #techrights the site now serves 1.2-2 million hits a week http://ur1.ca/9j1bp it started as a minor hobby | Jun 19 10:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What #cablegate teaches us about software world (a lot) http://ur1.ca/54iqi #corruption #politics #competition #collusion #blackmail | Jun 19 10:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spanish-speaking articles in #Techrights http://ur1.ca/9j1cp might get a Dutch portal soon... | Jun 19 10:25 | |
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| schestowitz | I posted this video of Linus in #techrights to give people some context. | Jun 19 10:33 |
| iophk | The whole answer is needed to put it in context. It's rather funny though. | Jun 19 10:34 |
| schestowitz | formic_: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726294 | Jun 19 10:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0IUl2UMwt4 'We're being robbed!' 12yo girl exposes Canada banking flaws #news #media #lies #girl #truth #talks | Jun 19 10:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] With the new Surface Tablets, Microsoft continues it's "Me Too" approach and for sure will have a lot to explain to it... http://b1t.it/bDJV | Jun 19 10:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - With the new Surface Tablets, Microsoft continues it's "Me… .::. Size~: 148.13 KB | Jun 19 10:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What I'm struggling most with, in all this Euro bailout nonsense, is, what's in it for Greece? They would so obviously... http://b1t.it/bDJ1 | Jun 19 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Zealand's High Court Steps Into Extradition Fight Over Kim Dotcom http://ur1.ca/9j1h5 #imperialism #fbi #hollywood #collusion #nz | Jun 19 10:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Social network celebs that complain about G+ are expendable IMHO. Enjoy your Twitter/FB fame. On G+ we actually care a... http://b1t.it/bDJ3 | Jun 19 10:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 09:47:24 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 12.1 KB | Jun 19 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Zealand's High Court Steps Into Extradition Fight Over Kim Dotcom | Techdirt .::. Size~: 122.17 KB | Jun 19 10:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Social network celebs that complain about G+ are expendable… .::. Size~: 137.12 KB | Jun 19 10:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes http://ur1.ca/9j1hq good for activists in fascist countries. | Jun 19 10:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 48.71 KB | Jun 19 10:53 |
| schestowitz | "Any information on screen resolution?" http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/v9o84/meet_the_idolpad_plus_a_98_android_40_tablet/ | Jun 19 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Meet the IdolPad PLUS, a $98 Android 4.0 tablet : Android .::. Size~: 48.12 KB | Jun 19 10:53 |
| schestowitz | looks elongated, but maybe standard VGA or WVGA | Jun 19 10:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tmdpw nee hoor | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @StationschefBMO da's al even dat ik niet meer op een normaal uur op m'n werk graak #zucht #stagathe | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @peterdedecker waar kunnen we dat lezen? | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @issuus En als dat webteam niet te huur staat? /cc @iRail #zwartzondersuiker | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @issuus: is op zoek naar het strafste webteam van heel twitter. wie?! RT = koffie in #barburo | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @PaulZH could you send me those? Then I know where I can start and stop ;) | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bvanherreweghe dat donkere gebouw daar hé, dat is ons kantoor ;) #FlatTurtle | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @PaulZH: slides for free Open Data event on 23rd of June 2012, organized by Mumbl (http://t.co/nMPKx http://ur1. ... | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/QQ9SGtfm Seems like I'm not going to reach the office today | Jun 19 10:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / ? .::. Size~: 5.61 KB | Jun 19 10:55 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trein botst tegen auto op overweg in Sint-Agatha-Berchem - De Standaard .::. Size~: 106.41 KB | Jun 19 10:55 |
| schestowitz | http://parlementum.net/notice/3165109 | Jun 19 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Baptist (redbaptist)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 09:46:04 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 11.62 KB | Jun 19 10:56 |
| schestowitz | "Not only them, but also most big news media. It started as a word that evokes cleverness and now it’s known as a “dirty word” in most circles. Tsk. http://parlementum.net/url/1495922" | Jun 19 10:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not Found - Parlementum .::. Size~: 5.1 KB | Jun 19 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@teirdes Militarization of the net creates market in 0-days, encouraging developers to create bugs, reducing security overall. #dcif | Jun 19 10:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers http://ur1.ca/9j1j0 #gnu #linux #hpc #server #ibm | Jun 19 10:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.23 KB | Jun 19 10:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wine 1.4 matures with first point update http://ur1.ca/9j1jg helps gamers http://ur1.ca/9j1jh #unix #linux | Jun 19 11:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wine 1.4 matures with first point update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.35 KB | Jun 19 11:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UGP (Ubuntu Gaming Project): Wine 1.4.1 released .::. Size~: 98.13 KB | Jun 19 11:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9j1ka obigatoy angry Linus http://ur1.ca/9j1kb | Jun 19 11:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.61 KB | Jun 19 11:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My favourite internet protocol? finger - Angry Linus | Meme Generator .::. Size~: 42.29 KB | Jun 19 11:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9j1ka obigatoy angry Linus http://ur1.ca/9j1kb | Jun 19 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Wine 1.4 matures with first point update http://ur1.ca/9j1jg helps gamers http://ur1.ca/9j1jh #unix #linux | Jun 19 11:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes http://ur1.ca/9j1hq good for activists in fascist countries. | Jun 19 11:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.65 KB | Jun 19 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My favourite internet protocol? finger - Angry Linus | Meme Generator .::. Size~: 42.29 KB | Jun 19 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wine 1.4 matures with first point update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.35 KB | Jun 19 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UGP (Ubuntu Gaming Project): Wine 1.4.1 released .::. Size~: 98.13 KB | Jun 19 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 48.76 KB | Jun 19 11:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google buys wireless efficiency patents – hopefully headed to !Android http://ping.fm/pN9tK | Jun 19 11:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What makes G+ different is (IMHO, mind you) that it is not the follower count that makes you important, it's the inter... http://b1t.it/bDKO | Jun 19 11:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google buys wireless efficiency patents – hopefully headed to Android | Android Community .::. Size~: 42.65 KB | Jun 19 11:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - What makes G+ different is (IMHO, mind you) that it is not… .::. Size~: 136.06 KB | Jun 19 11:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is !Mozilla Abandoning Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. - InternetNews. http://goo.gl/e7Tfc | Jun 19 11:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Mozilla Abandoning Open Source Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 35.19 KB | Jun 19 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers http://ping.fm/LfG82 | Jun 19 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Time Is Right For Desktop !Linux http://ping.fm/q6lU8 | Jun 19 11:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.32 KB | Jun 19 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 84.29 KB | Jun 19 11:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Current HN page has 1 (one!) entry on MSFT Surface and that entry so far atrracted 1 (one!) single comment. Tells you ... http://b1t.it/bDKU | Jun 19 11:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Current HN page has 1 (one!) entry on MSFT Surface and that… .::. Size~: 149.91 KB | Jun 19 11:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear @laquadrature @jerezim @teirdes can you confirm in any way if people are calling and mailing the MEPs? do we have any stats available? | Jun 19 11:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Baidu about to enter the browser wars? - Memeburn http://ping.fm/fCrXt | Jun 19 11:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Baidu about to enter the browser wars? | memeburn .::. Size~: 75.19 KB | Jun 19 11:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Due to #crapple's walled garden we're getting rendering engine monoculture bit.ly/MrbXUJ That worked great for IE. !webdev !css | Jun 19 11:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman talking in the #UK http://ur1.ca/9j1q9 #gnu #fsf | Jun 19 11:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Richard Stallman talking in the UK - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.33 KB | Jun 19 11:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux http://ur1.ca/9j1rz #gnu #linux | Jun 19 11:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 84.29 KB | Jun 19 11:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726347 | Jun 19 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Wine 1.4 matures with first point update http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Wine-1-4-matures-with-first-point-update-1619813.html helps gamers http://ubuntugamingproject.blogspot.it/2012/06/wine-141-released.html #unix #linux | Jun 19 11:49 |
| schestowitz | "hey! Thank you for sharing my blog! (Ubuntu Gaming Project) ^_^ I appreciated it! | Jun 19 11:49 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 19 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Wine 1.4 matures with first point update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.3 KB | Jun 19 11:49 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | "hey! Thank you for sharing my blog! (Ubuntu Gaming Project) ^_^ I appreciated it! | Jun 19 11:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | :-) | Jun 19 11:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726153 | Jun 19 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Reuters misuses the word "hacker" http://www.reuters.com/assets/print?aid=USBRE85G07S20120617 it means crackers | Jun 19 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Business & Financial News, Breaking US & International News | Reuters.com .::. Size~: 15.39 KB | Jun 19 11:54 |
| schestowitz | That's something that has been completely taken over now. Journalists! Commentators on all scenarios. Experts in none. | Jun 19 11:54 |
| schestowitz | http://catb.org/jargon/html/appendixc.html | Jun 19 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Appendix C. Helping Hacker Culture Grow .::. Size~: 6.64 KB | Jun 19 11:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 11:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Why didn't Poland leave the group at #Euro2012? We're the hosts, and host should never leave while the party is going. | Jun 19 11:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726286 | Jun 19 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Atheists chant at Muslim protesters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCfwcd_Ajg4 I love this video :-) #religion #atheism #muslim #fun | Jun 19 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Atheists chant at Muslim protesters - 2012 Atheist Convention - YouTube .::. Size~: 154.56 KB | Jun 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz | I've never felt so threatened by a religious faction to the point where I felt I had to go out and chant at them. | Jun 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz | Let it be! | Jun 19 11:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 11:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Copyright must foster innovation, not just protect a right http://ur1.ca/9j1tx it's not even a right. Ideas are not property. | Jun 19 11:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Against Monopoly .::. Size~: 33.95 KB | Jun 19 11:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dell #Ubuntu success in #India hits mainstream http://ur1.ca/9j1ul http://ur1.ca/9j1um http://ur1.ca/9j1un http://ur1.ca/9j1uo | Jun 19 12:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu Developers Solicit ‘Lightweight Apps’ http://ur1.ca/9j1v4 #ubuntu #linux #gnu | Jun 19 12:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India .::. Size~: 54.84 KB | Jun 19 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell Launch With Ubuntu at Retail in India - Legit Reviews .::. Size~: 19.86 KB | Jun 19 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India: NDTV Gadgets .::. Size~: 42.71 KB | Jun 19 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical’s retail expansion in India with Dell .::. Size~: 24.86 KB | Jun 19 12:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Developers Solicit 'Lightweight Apps' | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 71.43 KB | Jun 19 12:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94735178 | Jun 19 12:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @vinzv (vinzv)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 13:13:06 CEST - v.status: @schestowitz And none of these four articles mentiones the word "Linux". Seems like Canonical's marketing strategy works. :( | Jun 19 12:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Yasir Al-Musawi http://ur1.ca/9j1yo | Jun 19 12:23 | |
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| schestowitz | "Please post the follow-up he promises for Wednesday once it's up. Don't want to miss that!" | Jun 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726445 | Jun 19 12:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux http://fossforce.com/2012/06/the-time-is-right-for-desktop-linux/ #gnu #linux | Jun 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz | will do | Jun 19 12:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wuthering Moors 19 – what is Defra hiding? - http://bit.ly/PiZQgM #defra behaving badly (v @GeorgeMonbiot) #foi | Jun 19 12:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wuthering Moors 19 - what is Defra hiding? - Mark AveryMark Avery .::. Size~: 26.19 KB | Jun 19 12:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726486 | Jun 19 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Dell #Ubuntu success in #India hits mainstream http://zeenews.india.com/business/gadgets/gadgets-news/dell-to-sell-pc-built-on-free-operating-system-ubuntu-in-india_53957.html http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13427/ http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/dell-to-sell-pc-built-on-free-operating-system-ubuntu-in-india-233245 http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/index.php/sections/news/655-canonical-s-retail-expansio | Jun 19 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India .::. Size~: 58.51 KB | Jun 19 12:52 |
| schestowitz | "We'll see how long that lasts since mini9 laptops used to be shipped with Ubuntu at their time of release, now the new ones are all windows based." | Jun 19 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Dell Launch With Ubuntu at Retail in India - Legit Reviews .::. Size~: 19.75 KB | Jun 19 12:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India: NDTV Gadgets .::. Size~: 42.71 KB | Jun 19 12:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Canonical’s retail expansion in India with Dell .::. Size~: 24.86 KB | Jun 19 12:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alma Swan's fab response to #dailymail #openaccess #FUD - http://bit.ly/NdN7N4 spot on (v @petersuber) | Jun 19 12:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SPARC Europe’s response to the inaccuracies in the article by the Daily Mail’s City Editor on 18 June « SPARC in Europe .::. Size~: 39.71 KB | Jun 19 12:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Another April Fools joke becoming reality. Microsoft germany last year: http://www.microsoft.com/germany/newsroom/pre... http://b1t.it/bDML | Jun 19 12:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found. .::. Size~: 73.95 KB | Jun 19 12:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Another April Fools joke becoming reality. Microsoft… .::. Size~: 133.33 KB | Jun 19 12:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Threatens To Sue Huge YouTube MP3 Conversion Site - http://bit.ly/LZs0wg not so clever, O Google PhDs: you're creating a precedent | Jun 19 13:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Threatens To Sue Huge YouTube MP3 Conversion Site | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.17 KB | Jun 19 13:00 |
| formic_ | I'm not sure why google wouldn't threaten an mp3 conversion site | Jun 19 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help us win another crucial #ACTA vote: call your MEP! - http://bit.ly/MrxdtB great summary of issues, plus numbers to call #INTA | Jun 19 13:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Help us win another crucial ACTA vote: call your MEP! | Open Rights Group .::. Size~: 22.77 KB | Jun 19 13:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #PT: O sr Ministro da saúde é mentiroso! Tendo uma doença crónica ñ estou isento do pagamento de taxas relativas à minha doença! #FAIL | Jun 19 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | formic_: it's justa format | Jun 19 13:16 |
| schestowitz | formic_: you can convert the raw videos to mp3 anyway | Jun 19 13:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] breach of ToS, I think... | Jun 19 13:16 | |
| schestowitz | it's not hard to download the files, via browse | Jun 19 13:16 |
| schestowitz | even mass-convert | Jun 19 13:17 |
| schestowitz | for file in *.avi; do `nice mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile ${file}.mp3 ${file}`; done | Jun 19 13:17 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 19 13:17 |
| schestowitz | not sure why a site would be needed | Jun 19 13:18 |
| schestowitz | or a lawsuit | Jun 19 13:18 |
| schestowitz | you could write a simple CLI program that just takes youtube URL, fetches the SWF linked, gets the AVI/MOV is linked to, then calls mplayer and makes an mp3/ogg out of it | Jun 19 13:19 |
| schestowitz | ncurses for user-friendliness | Jun 19 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Then, the party enabling so-called 'piracy' is Google | Jun 19 13:19 |
| schestowitz | They are let alone as long as they have link cruft and ads to places where people can buy (download/license) the tracks | Jun 19 13:20 |
| schestowitz | So it's OK for them as long as it's streamed | Jun 19 13:20 |
| schestowitz | ie.e. spied on | Jun 19 13:20 |
| schestowitz | and used as a promotion tool, i.e. advertising | Jun 19 13:20 |
| schestowitz | It's a bit like recreational drug use vs medical drug use | Jun 19 13:21 |
| schestowitz | all about context | Jun 19 13:21 |
| MinceR | it's flv and some mpeg thing though | Jun 19 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Facebook harvests personal data = GREAT | Jun 19 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks harvests public (government) data = TERROR/CRIME | Jun 19 13:21 |
| schestowitz | if it makes money, it'\s OK | Jun 19 13:21 |
| schestowitz | As long as it's possible to control and police | Jun 19 13:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The affordable African smartphone battle begins: Samsung’s Galaxy Pocket vs Huawei’s Ideos X1 - http://tnw.co/NdTYWL another crucial market | Jun 19 13:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Affordable African Smartphone Battle Begins .::. Size~: 112.24 KB | Jun 19 13:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] taaten forsten 18 Millionen Hektar Wald auf - http://bit.ly/Pjjppb good news for a change #trees | Jun 19 13:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wald: Staaten einigen sich auf Wiederaufforstung - SPIEGEL ONLINE .::. Size~: 59.37 KB | Jun 19 13:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://ur1.ca/9j2bx - important, Please read. #A... http://b1t.it/bDNm | Jun 19 13:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Crucial ACTA Vote: Will INTA Committee Betray EU Citizens? | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 30.99 KB | Jun 19 13:33 |
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| formic_ | http://youtu.be/lLS4PJwtYEY <--- recycle bin looter | Jun 19 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hamilton ON - bum stealing recycles - YouTube .::. Size~: 82.44 KB | Jun 19 13:43 |
| formic_ | lulz | Jun 19 13:43 |
| schestowitz | steal? | Jun 19 13:45 |
| schestowitz | or recycle? | Jun 19 13:45 |
| schestowitz | The question is, do they loot recycle bins? | Jun 19 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Or take what would otherwise not be recycled? | Jun 19 13:45 |
| schestowitz | If the latter, then it's a valuable service | Jun 19 13:45 |
| schestowitz | it's actually a good case of taxing bottles so as to create incentive to return them for recycling, even if not by the buyers themselves | Jun 19 13:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New #Android Malware is Disguised as a Security App http://goo.gl/VafON | Jun 19 13:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The quality of open source code increases adoption http://goo.gl/CaSmF | Jun 19 13:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Android Malware is Disguised as a Security App | PCWorld .::. Size~: 84.18 KB | Jun 19 13:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The quality of open source code increases adoption | opensource.com .::. Size~: 55.88 KB | Jun 19 13:48 |
| formic_ | yeah they loot recycle bins | Jun 19 13:52 |
| formic_ | i dont know what the valuable service is, they would go to the government if someone didnt loot them | Jun 19 13:53 |
| formic_ | they dont share a cut of the profit at all | Jun 19 13:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Matthew Inman To Charles Carreon: Take Time Off, Stop Saying Crazy Sh*t To Journalists, Calm Down http://goo.gl/SSydE | Jun 19 13:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Matthew Inman To Charles Carreon: Take Time Off, Stop Saying Crazy Sh*t To Journalists, Calm Down | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.24 KB | Jun 19 13:53 |
| schestowitz | http://memegenerator.net/instance/22122719?urlName=Angry-Linus&browsingOrder=New&browsingTimeSpan=AllTime | Jun 19 13:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: my name is linus and I aproove of this message - Angry Linus | Meme Generator .::. Size~: 42.33 KB | Jun 19 13:53 |
| formic_ | the reason i find it amusing is, that in canada its seen as the same thing as 'garbage picking' | Jun 19 13:53 |
| schestowitz | welcome to NWO.. | Jun 19 13:54 |
| formic_ | my neighbor goes around every garbage day looking for stuff to clean up and sell | Jun 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | it would be nice if I was paid for the garbage recycling I do | Jun 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | It's involving a lot of labour | Jun 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726300 | Jun 19 13:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: <h3>Speaking of Monsanto .. Just had to share ;-D*</h3> #thankyoumonsanto #gmo #frankenfoods | Jun 19 13:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by thewebdiva@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_878bd011687f0dd27ee9.jpg | Jun 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | "A little 'hitchikers' moment." | Jun 19 13:54 |
| formic_ | i agree | Jun 19 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Some company is getting my labour for free | Jun 19 13:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA info: I was just told that Syed Kamall is "leading" on Thursday's #ACTA vote for ECR party, so he is the key man here... | Jun 19 13:55 | |
| formic_ | they want us to sort our recyclables too, but im not doing that for free | Jun 19 13:55 |
| schestowitz | I peel off labels and stuff | Jun 19 13:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726137 | Jun 19 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet the IdolPad PLUS, a $98 #Android 4.0 tablet http://www.androidguys.com/2012/06/18/meet-the-idolpad-plus-a-98-android-4-0-tablet/ a *little* cheaper than #hypePad and has more SW features. #linux | Jun 19 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Meet the IdolPad PLUS, a $98 Android 4.0 tabletAndroidGuys .::. Size~: 49.1 KB | Jun 19 13:55 |
| schestowitz | "Ebuyer.com have been doing a 7" tablet with ICS for £80 for a few weeks now. Spec is about the same as an HTC desire, i.e. a lot better than a typical £80 tablet, and actually usable." | Jun 19 13:55 |
| formic_ | same with sidewalk snow removal | Jun 19 13:55 |
| formic_ | its a law to shovel your sidewalk, but you cant get rid of the sidewalk. however they never said you have to do it for free. | Jun 19 13:56 |
| formic_ | thanks to global warming, i didnt have to bill the city this year | Jun 19 13:56 |
| formic_ | i think i have a good arguement for billing because they occasionally do pay people to clear sidewalks | Jun 19 13:57 |
| formic_ | equal rights man | Jun 19 13:57 |
| schestowitz | it's not all about money | Jun 19 13:58 |
| schestowitz | if you charged for everything that takes your time, society would cease to function | Jun 19 13:58 |
| formic_ | if they pay city people to do it they should pay me | Jun 19 14:01 |
| formic_ | why should i do the job for free while someone else gets paid + benefits | Jun 19 14:02 |
| formic_ | its cost cutting, nothing else | Jun 19 14:02 |
| formic_ | free labour, which is illegal | Jun 19 14:02 |
| Omega | lol it's not illegal | Jun 19 14:04 |
| Omega | it's highly encouraged to steal labour from people | Jun 19 14:04 |
| Omega | it's what capitalism si | Jun 19 14:04 |
| schestowitz | steal? No.. | Jun 19 14:04 |
| schestowitz | You give them debt | Jun 19 14:04 |
| schestowitz | as a 'gift' | Jun 19 14:04 |
| Omega | profit is stolen surplus value | Jun 19 14:04 |
| schestowitz | and then you lower their value | Jun 19 14:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Windows Vista 8" http://ur1.ca/9j2hs #lol #vista8 thumbs up to @SJVN | Jun 19 14:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Microflops: Microsoft Surface RT and 8 tablets | ZDNet .::. Size~: 278.63 KB | Jun 19 14:05 |
| schestowitz | and devalue their labour worth, you try to get as many as possible working for below the worth/cost | Jun 19 14:05 |
| schestowitz | and then you sell above cost | Jun 19 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Like Nike does in east Asia | Jun 19 14:05 |
| schestowitz | THAT's capitalism | Jun 19 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Turning people's lives (sad lives) into cash | Jun 19 14:05 |
| schestowitz | The turf war is trying to consume more people's lives for the glory of one's own corporation | Jun 19 14:06 |
| schestowitz | Nothing unethical about it... /SARCASM | Jun 19 14:06 |
| schestowitz | we in the West are supposed to love capitalism | Jun 19 14:06 |
| iophk | The hyped tablet with Vista8 does not ship yet, it's also likely to have dreadful battery life. Also, ARM is probably going to have locked bootloaders preventing the installation of a useful OS like Android. | Jun 19 14:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Hopefully over by mid-July? Was looking forward to some discussions in Portland... | Jun 19 14:06 | |
| schestowitz | Cause it's mostly done at the expense of non-Western... MOSTLY | Jun 19 14:06 |
| iophk | http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/09/arm-devices-running-windows-8-will-have-locked-bootloaders/ | Jun 19 14:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ARM devices running Windows 8 will have locked bootloaders .::. Size~: 58.49 KB | Jun 19 14:07 |
| schestowitz | So we carpet-bomb non-Western for standing up against capi... I mean, DEMOCRACY | Jun 19 14:07 |
| formic_ | 09:04 < Omega> lol it's not illegal | Jun 19 14:07 |
| formic_ | in Canada its illegal not to pay someone minimum wage for labour | Jun 19 14:07 |
| schestowitz | what labour? | Jun 19 14:07 |
| schestowitz | babysitting? | Jun 19 14:08 |
| schestowitz | what if the person is a child? | Jun 19 14:08 |
| schestowitz | Or consenting to doing a task? | Jun 19 14:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Alan McConnell http://ur1.ca/9j2ik | Jun 19 14:08 | |
| Omega | walking around in my neighbourhood and looking around is labour | Jun 19 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Google Street View Creator...... .::. Size~: 140 KB | Jun 19 14:08 |
| MinceR | also, the vista8 tablet won't have any applications and will only offer ie as the "browser" | Jun 19 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Many employers pay people to take a poo | Jun 19 14:09 |
| schestowitz | on working hours.. | Jun 19 14:09 |
| formic_ | 09:07 < schestowitz> what labour? | Jun 19 14:09 |
| formic_ | shoveling the sidewalk | Jun 19 14:09 |
| schestowitz | ask the municipality to do the service | Jun 19 14:09 |
| schestowitz | and also fixing holes in the road | Jun 19 14:10 |
| formic_ | they passed a law requiring I do it | Jun 19 14:10 |
| formic_ | meanwhile they still pay city employees to do it occassionally | Jun 19 14:10 |
| schestowitz | they can discriminatingly do this, ignoring some who pay city council tax | Jun 19 14:10 |
| Omega | if it's the law how can it be illegal | Jun 19 14:10 |
| schestowitz | based on nepotism | Jun 19 14:10 |
| formic_ | because the shoveling law doesnt say you're required to do it for free | Jun 19 14:10 |
| formic_ | it just says you have to | Jun 19 14:10 |
| formic_ | so its forced employment in my eyes | Jun 19 14:10 |
| formic_ | the sidewalk is city property unless there is snow on it (apparently) | Jun 19 14:11 |
| Omega | lol my point is, you don't need to rely on it being legal or not to argue your case | Jun 19 14:12 |
| formic_ | but i digress, the gov't can do whatever it wants even if its illegal | Jun 19 14:12 |
| formic_ | omega - it violates labour laws by not paying me | Jun 19 14:12 |
| formic_ | nobody has ever tried to do it | Jun 19 14:14 |
| formic_ | but i think i would win | Jun 19 14:14 |
| Omega | you can't win, they make the laws | Jun 19 14:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SourceForge back-end code to be donated to Apache http://ur1.ca/9j2ki #opensource | Jun 19 14:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SourceForge back-end code to be donated to Apache | ITworld .::. Size~: 124.11 KB | Jun 19 14:15 |
| formic_ | it wont stop me from fighting | Jun 19 14:15 |
| formic_ | i may have shaved my beard but ill still fight for freedom | Jun 19 14:15 |
| schestowitz | beard? | Jun 19 14:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Making public procurement exciting: FSFE launches project in Finland to fix the public sector http://ur1.ca/9j2lz !fsfe | Jun 19 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] forgot to include the #Bugcast links & Dave & Caroline's microblog stuff in the #Crivins shownotes for ep 19, now sorted | Jun 19 14:28 | |
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| formic_ | yeah | Jun 19 14:29 |
| formic_ | hangs off your chin | Jun 19 14:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cats after anesthesia http://ur1.ca/9j2mr #lol | Jun 19 14:30 | |
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| formic_ | oh you missed my joke yesterday | Jun 19 14:34 |
| formic_ | beards = freedom advocacy | Jun 19 14:34 |
| iophk | http://www.improb.com/airchives/classical/cat/cat.html | Jun 19 14:36 |
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| iophk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/jun/08/research.highereducation | Jun 19 14:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] important: SOS EU open access to scientific publications - http://bit.ly/MKlAOR another fightback against #openaccess - contact MEPs pl. | Jun 19 14:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726797 | Jun 19 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cats after anesthesia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beWo2Ic3cbQ #lol | Jun 19 14:39 |
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| schestowitz | "So cute ! :)" | Jun 19 14:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/6/2012: Mandriva Linux 2012 Tech Preview, Linus’ Remarks, Dell Helps Ubuntu, Wine 1.4.1 Released http://ur1.ca/9j2pc #techrights | Jun 19 14:40 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZeKaEFHAlg&feature=related | Jun 19 14:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] WRT Amazon EC2 Outage: "Consider building towards a vendor-neutral architectureWe’re big fans of AWS. But today rais... http://b1t.it/bDPp | Jun 19 14:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - WRT Amazon EC2 Outage: "Consider building towards a… .::. Size~: 143.7 KB | Jun 19 14:43 |
| formic_ | schestowitz - my comment earlier about the youtube mp3 ripper | Jun 19 14:43 |
| formic_ | schestowitz - google has deals with music companies to make sure the stuff can't be copied | Jun 19 14:44 |
| formic_ | thats why im not surprised they are enforcing it | Jun 19 14:44 |
| formic_ | meanwhile the rest of us can just use videodownloader :) | Jun 19 14:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @schestowitz "Windows Vista 8" http://ur1.ca/9j2hs #lol #vista8 thumbs up to @SJVN | Jun 19 14:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @karsten Making public procurement exciting: FSFE launches project in Finland to fix the public sector http://ur1.ca/9j2lz !fsfe | Jun 19 14:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Statement on #TPP Parties Invite Mexico to Join Negotiations - http://bit.ly/KQJJ7O "will make the negotiation of IP chapter much harder." | Jun 19 14:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I would define this as #compilerporn - http://blog.regehr.org/archives/482 http://ur1.ca/9j2rs | Jun 19 14:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #vista8 self-nukes [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9j2up | Jun 19 15:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Prettify Your Server with h5ai http://ur1.ca/9j2vc very nice.. | Jun 19 15:13 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 15:13 |
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| MinceR | finally i know what the vista8 logo means | Jun 19 15:13 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=FFr8O0Ulocc&NR=1 | Jun 19 15:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDNEpT_LfyQ&feature=related | Jun 19 15:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDNEpT_LfyQ&feature=related | Jun 19 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEU3zuOvGo&feature=related | Jun 19 15:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kitty + Anesthesia = Hilarity - YouTube .::. Size~: 128.69 KB | Jun 19 15:16 |
| Omega | formic_: lol, have you joined the students on the streets yet? | Jun 19 15:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh, now that is a surprise. Suddenly rumours about WMD in Syria. How like totally new that sounds. Never happened before. ;-) | Jun 19 15:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crucial ACTA Vote: Will INTA Committee Betray EU Citizens? http://ur1.ca/9j14t #acta | Jun 19 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Oh, now that is a surprise. Suddenly rumours about WMD in Syria. How like totally new that sounds. Never happened before. ;-) | Jun 19 15:20 | |
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| schestowitz | maybe they found a box of big vibrators in Syria | Jun 19 15:21 |
| schestowitz | And the pussies in the West got all nervous | Jun 19 15:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "Katholische Schulen ketten sich an Microsoft" http://ur1.ca/9j2xn | Jun 19 15:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA Just spoke with Robert Sturdy's assistant: clear that ECR MEPs will be voting for delay; #ACTA is good basis for future, good signal | Jun 19 15:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Portugal fez chegar à #Google 523 pedidos de informação sobre contas de internautas - JNo http://goo.gl/HMcrZ #pt #privacy | Jun 19 15:31 | |
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| formic_ | omega - what students? | Jun 19 15:39 |
| formic_ | omega - quebec? | Jun 19 15:39 |
| formic_ | omega - if you're talking about quebec, im not on their side | Jun 19 15:39 |
| formic_ | quebec gets more tax dollars from the federal government under 'equalization', and the quebec government uses that money to subsidize education and provide freebies for immigrants | Jun 19 15:40 |
| formic_ | they have cheaper education than the rest of the country | Jun 19 15:40 |
| formic_ | im not shedding any tears | Jun 19 15:40 |
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| formic_ | iophk: yeah they have massive immigration because I suspect the more people they brainwash the easier it is to seperate | Jun 19 15:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: How can #ICT make cities smarter, deliver for the environment, health, quality of life? http://p.ost.im/p/ecBWJd | Jun 19 15:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@sheila97: BBC News - In pictures: Life on Kenya's Dandora dump near Nairobi http://t.co/Uj4jBrgQ" | Jun 19 15:45 | |
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| iophk | The economy is not big enough to support a separated Quebec. It'd just be two poor, small countries instead of the single, well-off medium-sized one. | Jun 19 15:45 |
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| formic_ | plus, they couldnt steal money from the rest of us | Jun 19 15:48 |
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| iophk | It's heavily subsidized, I gather? | Jun 19 15:49 |
| Omega | lol, so much for "fighting for freedom" | Jun 19 15:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Chossudovsky: US-Sponsored Gangs Committed #Houla Massacre - YouTube http://goo.gl/zEiVN #usa #nato #stateterrorism | #gladio | Jun 19 15:50 | |
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| Omega | lol "freebies for immigrants" | Jun 19 15:50 |
| MinceR | i thought canada was huge :> | Jun 19 15:50 |
| Omega | I doubt you're a native-american, in which case you're a immigrant too | Jun 19 15:50 |
| Omega | an* | Jun 19 15:50 |
| formic_ | nope | Jun 19 15:51 |
| formic_ | i was born here | Jun 19 15:51 |
| Omega | your family migrated there | Jun 19 15:51 |
| Omega | just like these "immigrants" are | Jun 19 15:51 |
| Omega | yet your family did it by killing off the people that lived there | Jun 19 15:51 |
| schestowitz | [15:43] <iophk> From what I gather, Quebec imports people who then move out as soon as they've learned enough English to get by in the rest of Canada. | Jun 19 15:51 |
| schestowitz | any URL? | Jun 19 15:52 |
| Omega | which they benefited greatly from | Jun 19 15:52 |
| Omega | and you complain that THESE people get freebies? | Jun 19 15:52 |
| iophk | No URL. | Jun 19 15:52 |
| schestowitz | sheesh.. hypocrisy hurts | Jun 19 15:52 |
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| cubezzz | a lot of natives don't like the term native-american | Jun 19 15:53 |
| schestowitz | First people | Jun 19 15:53 |
| cubezzz | besides, it's completely usa-centric | Jun 19 15:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Last Language Textbook - http://bit.ly/Mmtce7 "completely free collection of language lessons that can serve as a textbook replacement" | Jun 19 15:53 | |
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| Omega | indigenous people | Jun 19 15:53 |
| cubezzz | better :) | Jun 19 15:53 |
| schestowitz | better than "Indian" | Jun 19 15:54 |
| cubezzz | quite :) | Jun 19 15:54 |
| Omega | cubezzz: I used native-american in the non-usacentric way (formic_ is in canada) | Jun 19 15:55 |
| cubezzz | Omega, some indigenous peoples are OK with the term, some aren't | Jun 19 15:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: i don't see that as USA-centric terminology. | Jun 19 15:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | weird that some ppl do (esp Canadians) | Jun 19 15:55 |
| cubezzz | just like some Inuit prefer Eskimo and some prefer Inuit | Jun 19 15:56 |
| Omega | and "the rest of the country pays more for education, so they should be just as screwed as us! I won't help them! | Jun 19 15:56 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, the term is only used in the USA | Jun 19 15:56 |
| Omega | and then you expect to get support for something as petty as having to remove snow from your sidewalk? | Jun 19 15:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah, i find that odd, but okay :) | Jun 19 15:56 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, In Canada some of the time we say First Nations | Jun 19 15:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Intel Chips Prone to Hacks - 64-bit OSs Deemed Vulnerable | HOTforSecurity http://goo.gl/xv79A #security (ms-win7/2008R2 + freebsd+netbsd) | Jun 19 15:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The case for mandatory GMO labeling - even if you believe in limited government and the free market http://goo.gl/HFr03 #gmo #usa | Jun 19 15:56 | |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: yes | Jun 19 15:56 |
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| cubezzz | it's not perfect but hey :) | Jun 19 15:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: i just spent the last week helping my wife write an essay on a First Nations question | Jun 19 15:57 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, oh interesting | Jun 19 15:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Néanmoins, dans un case comme dans l'autre, vous êtes un amoureux de l'#impureté. Alors, c'est #inquiétant! | Jun 19 15:58 | |
| Omega | and this mentality is SO short sighted too | Jun 19 15:58 |
| cubezzz | I'm an immigrant too | Jun 19 15:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: there aren't many left who aren't ;-) | Jun 19 15:59 |
| cubezzz | came over to Canada in 1967, didn't kill any natives though :) | Jun 19 15:59 |
| cubezzz | I did sell a native a computer tax free though :) | Jun 19 15:59 |
| Omega | "they resisted the negative change better than us, now we want them to be as screwed us!" instead of showing solidarity with their struggle and you joining it so you all benefit | Jun 19 16:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA just spoke to ECR's Syed Kamall: he says more time is needed to evaluate #ACTA, hence his amendment calling for delay... | Jun 19 16:00 | |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, I came over before McDonalds did :) | Jun 19 16:00 |
| formic_ | 10:51 < Omega> your family migrated there | Jun 19 16:00 |
| Omega | you expect solidarity but lend it to no-one | Jun 19 16:00 |
| formic_ | all the family i'm aware of migrated from the US or England | Jun 19 16:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: :) back when being Canadian meant something IOW :) | Jun 19 16:00 |
| formic_ | both countries won all the wars to claim the territory | Jun 19 16:00 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 16:00 |
| Omega | you mean mass ethnocide? | Jun 19 16:01 |
| formic_ | war sucks, but thats my claim to this land | Jun 19 16:01 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, the openbsd guy is Canadian too, we have a history of FOSS that I didn't even know about | Jun 19 16:01 |
| Omega | what :| | Jun 19 16:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Interesting article by Schneier: "The Vulnerabilities Market and the Future of #Security" http://ur1.ca/9gfb1 | Jun 19 16:01 | |
| cubezzz | Vector Linux was started by Canadians | Jun 19 16:01 |
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| Omega | formic_: these are PEOPLE you are talking about | Jun 19 16:01 |
| formic_ | plus I was born here, that doesnt make me an immigrant | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | not mere numbers in a history book | Jun 19 16:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: I've met Theo. In Calgary. | Jun 19 16:02 |
| formic_ | there is no situation where I will EVER be considered an immigrant | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | people were killed by other people | Jun 19 16:02 |
| formic_ | so? | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | just because they happened to live someone peacefully | Jun 19 16:02 |
| formic_ | wars are how you dispute territory | Jun 19 16:02 |
| formic_ | people die, thats part of war | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | you say that as if it's a fact | Jun 19 16:02 |
| formic_ | it is a fact | Jun 19 16:02 |
| formic_ | read history books | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | no | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 16:02 |
| Omega | this isn't worth my time | Jun 19 16:03 |
| formic_ | find me some land disputes that didn't result in war or have war involved | Jun 19 16:03 |
| formic_ | look at israel | Jun 19 16:03 |
| Omega | this wasn't a "dispute" | Jun 19 16:03 |
| formic_ | sure it was | Jun 19 16:03 |
| Omega | the europeans came and killed everyone | Jun 19 16:03 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@teirdes sorry to hear about your inbox. but then, happy to hear about your inbox. ;) | Jun 19 16:03 | |
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| formic_ | i dont condone what they did but im not going to give up land or give apologies to people who weren't involved | Jun 19 16:04 |
| Omega | Is this person really try to call colonialism as merely a 'dispute' that was won by the europeans? | Jun 19 16:04 |
| Omega | I'm really not in the mood to argue with ethnocide apologists | Jun 19 16:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not ethnocide when the other side tastes like pork. | Jun 19 16:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just dinnertime. | Jun 19 16:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | tru | Jun 19 16:05 |
| Omega | uh, I don't kill things if I don't have to | Jun 19 16:05 |
| Omega | I prefer not to harm animals | Jun 19 16:05 |
| Omega | (and not support things which do ahrm animals unneccesarily) | Jun 19 16:06 |
| Omega | the whole "someone was born in another geographial region so they are not welcome here" thing is not thought out (d'oh) | Jun 19 16:09 |
| formic_ | omega - its not that they arent welcome here | Jun 19 16:10 |
| formic_ | i welcome all the rich immigrants who wont leech the system | Jun 19 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | I welcome all the immigrants who might make a good stew | Jun 19 16:10 |
| formic_ | lol Diablo-D3 | Jun 19 16:10 |
| Omega | if you're rich you by definition leech the system | Jun 19 16:10 |
| Omega | that's what profit is | Jun 19 16:10 |
| Omega | money you leeched from other people's labour | Jun 19 16:11 |
| formic_ | Omega: im talking about people who come to canada and won't get jobs | Jun 19 16:11 |
| Omega | more people means more things need to be done, so more jobs | Jun 19 16:11 |
| Omega | oh wait, there's capitalism | Jun 19 16:11 |
| Omega | so they need an artificial shortage of jobs | Jun 19 16:11 |
| formic_ | im an anarchist and i think people should work for themselves | Jun 19 16:11 |
| formic_ | self support | Jun 19 16:12 |
| Omega | an anarchist that only welcome "rich immigrants"? | Jun 19 16:12 |
| Omega | anarchism is much more than anti-statism | Jun 19 16:12 |
| Omega | it's anti-capitalist | Jun 19 16:12 |
| Omega | it's anti-discrimination | Jun 19 16:12 |
| formic_ | its not anti capitalist | Jun 19 16:12 |
| Omega | it's anti-nationalism | Jun 19 16:12 |
| formic_ | its anti rules | Jun 19 16:12 |
| formic_ | nobody should have power over someone else | Jun 19 16:13 |
| Omega | Anarchism is anticapitalist, it always has been | Jun 19 16:13 |
| Omega | capitalism is hierarchical | Jun 19 16:13 |
| formic_ | look up the definition | Jun 19 16:13 |
| formic_ | anarchy has nothing to do with money | Jun 19 16:13 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: "long pig" | Jun 19 16:13 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 16:13 |
| Omega | formic_: anarchism STARTED with a critique of capitalism | Jun 19 16:13 |
| MinceR | Omega: don't confuse anarchism with anarcho-communism, they're not the same thing | Jun 19 16:14 |
| Omega | I know | Jun 19 16:14 |
| formic_ | Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful,[1][2] or alternatively as opposing authority and hierarchical organization in the conduct of human relations. | Jun 19 16:14 |
| MinceR | and no, capitalism is not hierarchical | Jun 19 16:14 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism | Jun 19 16:14 |
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| Omega | Anarchism started with Proudhon's critique of captialism | Jun 19 16:14 |
| Omega | Proudhon wasn't an anarcho-communist | Jun 19 16:14 |
| Omega | but a mutualist | Jun 19 16:14 |
| MinceR | having property and offering products and/or services for other goods is not a hierarchy | Jun 19 16:14 |
| formic_ | The earliest[44] anarchist themes can be found in the 6th century BC, among the works of Taoist philosopher Laozi,[43] and in later centuries by Zhuangzi and Bao Jingyan. | Jun 19 16:14 |
| MinceR | nice find | Jun 19 16:15 |
| formic_ | He was the first person to refer to himself as an anarchist.[citation needed] In What is Property, published in 1840, he defined anarchy as "the absence of a master, of a sovereign", and in The General idea of the Revolution (1851) he urged a "society without authority." | Jun 19 16:16 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon#Political_philosophy | Jun 19 16:16 |
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| Omega | yes | Jun 19 16:16 |
| Omega | Capitalism requires a body indestiguishable from a state to maintain absentee landlordism | Jun 19 16:18 |
| formic_ | While deeply critical of capitalism, he also objected to those contemporary socialists who advocated centralised, hierarchical forms of association or state control of the economy | Jun 19 16:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@accessjames @alberto_cottica Efficiency may be deceptive. Efficiency only measures intended outcomes. Efficient != Effective. #LOTE | Jun 19 16:18 | |
| MinceR | what's "absentee landlordism" and what has it got to do with capitalism? | Jun 19 16:19 |
| Omega | everything? | Jun 19 16:19 |
| formic_ | why wouldn't you be able to rent out a house in a society without government? | Jun 19 16:19 |
| Omega | it means that you can own something without using it | Jun 19 16:19 |
| Omega | like a landlord | Jun 19 16:19 |
| formic_ | so? | Jun 19 16:19 |
| Omega | that is like the basis of capitalism :| | Jun 19 16:20 |
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| Omega | http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secFcon.html/ | Jun 19 16:20 |
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| MinceR | who determines when isn't something in use? | Jun 19 16:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: you're not IN it. :) | Jun 19 16:21 |
| Omega | http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/ctp4q/chomsky_refutes_libertarian_anarchocapitalism/ | Jun 19 16:21 |
| MinceR | who determines the timeout when something is no longer in use? | Jun 19 16:21 |
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| MinceR | qu1j0t3: oh, so the idea that my home remains my home 2 seconds after i step out the front door is somehow evil and statist? | Jun 19 16:21 |
| MinceR | interesting. | Jun 19 16:21 |
| Omega | MinceR: the community I suppose | Jun 19 16:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: hey, i'm not advancing this idea. | Jun 19 16:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 16:21 |
| Omega | why do you conclude things which have not been answered? | Jun 19 16:22 |
| MinceR | why don't you answer them? | Jun 19 16:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: i'd only point to a concrete definition of ownership as in "I'm holding it" and the abstract as in "I own that". | Jun 19 16:22 |
| Omega | I did | Jun 19 16:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: the latter requires a kind of shared contract/agreement :) | Jun 19 16:22 |
| MinceR | contracts/agreements are possible without a state | Jun 19 16:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am sure they are. i have no dog in this fight. :) | Jun 19 16:22 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 19 16:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: they'll get broken, though, just as in our existing system. what next? | Jun 19 16:23 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, privacy and data security are impossible without property | Jun 19 16:23 |
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| Omega | anarchism is socialist, by definition, if you don't have control over your workplace it's not anarchist | Jun 19 16:23 |
| Omega | <@MinceR> on the other hand, privacy and data security are impossible without property | Jun 19 16:23 |
| MinceR | no, it's "socialist" by the definition of the communists | Jun 19 16:23 |
| Omega | I'm talking about private property | Jun 19 16:23 |
| MinceR | who want to appropriate anarchism to themselves | Jun 19 16:23 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 16:24 |
| Omega | not all anarchism is communism | Jun 19 16:24 |
| Omega | I alreadys aid that | Jun 19 16:24 |
| Omega | market socialists - or mutualists aren't | Jun 19 16:24 |
| Omega | but capitalism is inherently hierarchical and coercive | Jun 19 16:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kirschner Interesting article by Schneier: "The Vulnerabilities Market and the Future of #Security" http://ur1.ca/9gfb1 | Jun 19 16:25 | |
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| Omega | please read http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secFcon.html/ | Jun 19 16:25 |
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| MinceR | what makes it hierarchical? what makes it coercive? | Jun 19 16:26 |
| tsloughter | how does a worker eat? | Jun 19 16:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@kachwanya: Francis Kimanzi is sacked" !football !kenya | Jun 19 16:26 | |
| MinceR | he puts the food in his mouth, chews and swallows | Jun 19 16:27 |
| tsloughter | where does he get the food | Jun 19 16:27 |
| tsloughter | by selling his labor power to one who owns | Jun 19 16:27 |
| MinceR | he could produce it, forage it or obtain it via trade | Jun 19 16:27 |
| tsloughter | so the ones who own the resources and production capacity are very free | Jun 19 16:28 |
| tsloughter | not so much the majority who have only their labor to sell | Jun 19 16:28 |
| tsloughter | forage it? | Jun 19 16:28 |
| tsloughter | probably get shot if he tries that | Jun 19 16:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Flipbook gets some exclusive write API access from Google? Animal farm, anyone? | Jun 19 16:28 | |
| MinceR | so many assumptions, most of them wrong | Jun 19 16:28 |
| tsloughter | I mean sure, he could go into a life of crime | Jun 19 16:28 |
| MinceR | the worker owns his own production capacity | Jun 19 16:29 |
| tsloughter | his labor,yes | Jun 19 16:29 |
| MinceR | how much other resources he owns was not specified | Jun 19 16:29 |
| tsloughter | but that mustbe put to work on something | Jun 19 16:29 |
| MinceR | for all we know, he could own part of the factory he works in | Jun 19 16:29 |
| tsloughter | this isn't assumptions, this is history | Jun 19 16:29 |
| MinceR | you have given no historical context | Jun 19 16:29 |
| julius1 | MinceR: highly unlikely | Jun 19 16:29 |
| tsloughter | yes, if the work places are worker run we have socialism | Jun 19 16:30 |
| MinceR | also, is this a discussion of principles or the discussion of a particular moment in history? | Jun 19 16:30 |
| tsloughter | I'm not talking about a fake world | Jun 19 16:30 |
| formic_ | 11:25 < Omega> please read http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secFcon.html/ | Jun 19 16:30 |
| tsloughter | I'm tlaking about Earth post fuedalism | Jun 19 16:30 |
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| MinceR | no, if the work places are owned by the state or by nobody, we have socialism | Jun 19 16:30 |
| formic_ | is that a credible source of info? | Jun 19 16:30 |
| Omega | formic_: yes | Jun 19 16:30 |
| tsloughter | if you want to talk about a fake planet to discuss capitlaism and anarchy I'll step out | Jun 19 16:30 |
| formic_ | Omega: I see *no* citations | Jun 19 16:30 |
| formic_ | sounds like someone is redefining things | Jun 19 16:31 |
| MinceR | ok, let's talk about real examples of anarchy on earth... oh wait, there are none | Jun 19 16:31 |
| formic_ | read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism | Jun 19 16:31 |
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| tsloughter | there aren't? | Jun 19 16:31 |
| Omega | http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/biblio.html | Jun 19 16:31 |
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| Omega | formic_: ^ | Jun 19 16:31 |
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| formic_ | 11:23 < Omega> anarchism is socialist, by definition, if you don't have control over your workplace it's not anarchist | Jun 19 16:31 |
| formic_ | ROFL | Jun 19 16:31 |
| formic_ | anarchism is not socialist, because socialism requires government | Jun 19 16:32 |
| formic_ | fool | Jun 19 16:32 |
| tsloughter | tellthat to every anarchist who has ever lived... | Jun 19 16:32 |
| julius1 | formic_: ok | Jun 19 16:32 |
| julius1 | Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin | Jun 19 16:32 |
| julius1 | not anarchists? | Jun 19 16:32 |
| tsloughter | Emma | Jun 19 16:32 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: some of them have heard it already | Jun 19 16:32 |
| tsloughter | Chomsky | Jun 19 16:32 |
| MinceR | so what now? | Jun 19 16:32 |
| tsloughter | anarcho-capitalists simply want private tyranny | Jun 19 16:32 |
| formic_ | socialism requires hierarchical control | Jun 19 16:33 |
| Omega | false | Jun 19 16:33 |
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| formic_ | how do you enforce socialism then | Jun 19 16:33 |
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| formic_ | without law | Jun 19 16:33 |
| MinceR | anarcho-communists simply want to loot others | Jun 19 16:33 |
| tsloughter | loot others? | Jun 19 16:33 |
| Omega | you don't "enforce socialism" it just means workers control of the means of production | Jun 19 16:33 |
| Omega | so your workplace is run by a workers council or something | Jun 19 16:34 |
| formic_ | how do you enforce workers having control of the means of production | Jun 19 16:34 |
| tsloughter | I love how people like MinceR start with the assumption that our current "ownership" is where we start | Jun 19 16:34 |
| formic_ | sounds extremely communist to me | Jun 19 16:34 |
| formic_ | and Bakunin was ex-communist, no surprise at the bias there | Jun 19 16:34 |
| tsloughter | for some reason despite all these resources having been looted by those who know "own" them... | Jun 19 16:34 |
| formic_ | he worked with Marx and turned against him | Jun 19 16:34 |
| Omega | how does this "sound communist" :| | Jun 19 16:34 |
| MinceR | i love how people like tsloughter can't imagine ownership other than "none" and the worst possible idea of ownership they could make up | Jun 19 16:34 |
| tsloughter | its stealing if they are given to the community | Jun 19 16:34 |
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| Omega | formic_: you do know what communism is though right? | Jun 19 16:35 |
| formic_ | omega b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed | Jun 19 16:35 |
| formic_ | http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism | Jun 19 16:35 |
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| Omega | a stateless, moneyless, classless, socialist society | Jun 19 16:35 |
| formic_ | Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order. | Jun 19 16:35 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism | Jun 19 16:36 |
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| Omega | indeed | Jun 19 16:36 |
| formic_ | common ownership of the means of production | Jun 19 16:36 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: worst possible ide aof ownership? I'm talking about reality. if you want to change this form of ownership you yourself are doing what you call looting | Jun 19 16:36 |
| Omega | why would you have to "enforce workers" to have ownership over something that THEY make? | Jun 19 16:36 |
| formic_ | how do workers have ownership under anarchy when nobody owns anything | Jun 19 16:36 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 16:36 |
| tsloughter | maybe ethey want to be subjects to owners! ;) | Jun 19 16:36 |
| Omega | they own what they make! | Jun 19 16:37 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: but taking everything away from everyone somehow isn't a form of looting? | Jun 19 16:37 |
| formic_ | how do you own something when there are no laws, rules, or government to enforce your property rights | Jun 19 16:37 |
| Omega | who says anything about no rules | Jun 19 16:37 |
| Omega | it's about no RULERS | Jun 19 16:37 |
| Omega | not no rules | Jun 19 16:37 |
| formic_ | the definition of anarchy | Jun 19 16:37 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: you can consider it that, sure, I don't since that would require accepting its ownership by an individual as a right | Jun 19 16:37 |
| tsloughter | geez, they don't even know what anarchy is | Jun 19 16:38 |
| formic_ | no rulers, no laws, no government | Jun 19 16:38 |
| tsloughter | so they aren't anarcho-capitalists | Jun 19 16:38 |
| Omega | I'm talking about anarchism as an ideology, if you want to turn this into a discussion of semantics (and using a dictionary written by people who have NO idea what anarchism is) I'l step out | Jun 19 16:38 |
| tsloughter | when I play a game of basketball with friends we follow rules | Jun 19 16:39 |
| tsloughter | but we have no refs or coaches or owners | Jun 19 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | come on you pansies , who has the balls to step out! | Jun 19 16:39 |
| formic_ | I'd rather read definitions from educated people vs a bunch of anarcho-communists and anarcho-socialists | Jun 19 16:39 |
| Omega | qu1j0t3: haha | Jun 19 16:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: and crypto-this-and-thats! | Jun 19 16:39 |
| Omega | reading a definition doesn't make it true my friend | Jun 19 16:39 |
| tsloughter | formic_: then do so, from people who founded the anarchist movements... | Jun 19 16:39 |
| formic_ | actually if you knew history none of the 'founding anarchists' agreed with each other | Jun 19 16:40 |
| tsloughter | hahah | Jun 19 16:40 |
| tsloughter | yes, Bakuninists weren't mutualists, etc | Jun 19 16:40 |
| tsloughter | but that is not the issue we have here | Jun 19 16:40 |
| Omega | but they were all anticapist | Jun 19 16:41 |
| Omega | anticapitalist | Jun 19 16:41 |
| tsloughter | where are the anarcho-fuedalists | Jun 19 16:41 |
| formic_ | proudhon, based on what I just read was only against state capitalism | Jun 19 16:41 |
| tsloughter | "its ok, we are all free, just all the land is owned by that Lord" | Jun 19 16:41 |
| formic_ | and | Jun 19 16:41 |
| formic_ | he became a socialist afterwards | Jun 19 16:41 |
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| MinceR | tsloughter: that's called "socialism" or "communism" :> | Jun 19 16:41 |
| Omega | tsloughter: hahaha | Jun 19 16:41 |
| MinceR | "we're all free, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" | Jun 19 16:42 |
| formic_ | "Proudhon called himself a socialist, but he opposed state ownership of capital goods in favour of ownership by workers themselves in associations." | Jun 19 16:42 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon#Political_philosophy | Jun 19 16:42 |
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| tsloughter | Proudhon was a fool, he was a mutualist | Jun 19 16:42 |
| tsloughter | but mutualists aren't capitalists | Jun 19 16:42 |
| julius1 | anarchism is about as capitalist as communism is capitalist | Jun 19 16:42 |
| julius1 | end of story | Jun 19 16:42 |
| Omega | formic_: indeed! | Jun 19 16:42 |
| Omega | all anarchists are socialists but oppose the state ownership of goods | Jun 19 16:42 |
| Omega | keyword state | Jun 19 16:43 |
| tsloughter | Omega: by golly I think he's got it! | Jun 19 16:43 |
| tsloughter | hehe | Jun 19 16:43 |
| formic_ | thats bullshit | Jun 19 16:43 |
| tsloughter | haha | Jun 19 16:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | w00t | Jun 19 16:43 |
| MinceR | "if an anarchist disagrees with me then he's not an anarchist!" | Jun 19 16:43 |
| MinceR | boom! | Jun 19 16:43 |
| Omega | you are trying to argue against yourself now :P | Jun 19 16:43 |
| formic_ | anarchy is not socialist | Jun 19 16:43 |
| *qu1j0t3 waits to see who walks out of the bar first, risking a bullet in the back | Jun 19 16:43 | |
| MinceR | really, that's the level of the "debate" now | Jun 19 16:43 |
| julius1 | no | Jun 19 16:43 |
| Omega | MinceR: no | Jun 19 16:43 |
| formic_ | http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy | Jun 19 16:43 |
| julius1 | if an "anarchist" disagrees with anarchism | Jun 19 16:43 |
| julius1 | then he's not an anarchist | Jun 19 16:43 |
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| formic_ | a : absence of government | Jun 19 16:43 |
| formic_ | b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority | Jun 19 16:44 |
| julius1 | formic_: you're really going to trust the "anarchy is chaos" definition? | Jun 19 16:44 |
| julius1 | or whatever | Jun 19 16:44 |
| Omega | formic_: keep using those pop culture definitions :) | Jun 19 16:44 |
| formic_ | c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government | Jun 19 16:44 |
| julius1 | how about you read what was written by the original anarchist, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon | Jun 19 16:44 |
| formic_ | he wasnt the original | Jun 19 16:44 |
| julius1 | or people like Bakunin or Kropotkin who furthered the theory | Jun 19 16:44 |
| julius1 | he was the first person to call himself an anarchist | Jun 19 16:44 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism | Jun 19 16:44 |
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| julius1 | "anarcho"-capitalism is an invention of the 1960s | Jun 19 16:44 |
| formic_ | he invented the word and then became a socialist | Jun 19 16:44 |
| formic_ | doesnt mean anarchy is socialist | Jun 19 16:45 |
| MinceR | so, does he own the term "anarchism" now? | Jun 19 16:45 |
| Omega | lol | Jun 19 16:45 |
| tsloughter | "Look, I'm a darwinist and all, but I think God created man out of nothing" | Jun 19 16:45 |
| julius1 | it's a result of classical liberal economic theorists becoming more extreme | Jun 19 16:45 |
| tsloughter | then yes, you are not a darwinist | Jun 19 16:45 |
| julius1 | first "minarchism" | Jun 19 16:45 |
| tsloughter | same goes for anarchist | Jun 19 16:45 |
| Omega | Yeah, darwin doesn't own the term or anything! | Jun 19 16:45 |
| formic_ | The earliest[44] anarchist themes can be found in the 6th century BC, among the works of Taoist philosopher Laozi,[43] and in later centuries by Zhuangzi and Bao Jingyan | Jun 19 16:45 |
| julius1 | then nonsense like objectivism and galambosianism | Jun 19 16:45 |
| julius1 | and finally "anarcho"-capitalism | Jun 19 16:45 |
| formic_ | http://robertgraham.wordpress.com/anarchism-a-documentary-history-of-libertarian-ideas-volume-one-from-anarchy-to-anarchism-300ce-1939/ | Jun 19 16:45 |
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| MinceR | "darwinism" is a stupid term anyway | Jun 19 16:47 |
| formic_ | you guys are mixing anarchy up with anarcho-communism, anarcho-socialism and anarcho-capitalism | Jun 19 16:47 |
| tsloughter | umm, no | Jun 19 16:47 |
| Omega | no, we're not | Jun 19 16:47 |
| tsloughter | you are mixing anarchy up with the idea of living under private tyrants | Jun 19 16:47 |
| Omega | and I'm not a guy :) use you folks or you people instead :P | Jun 19 16:47 |
| MinceR | you're mixing up the idea of having property with the idea of living under tyrants | Jun 19 16:48 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: what private tyrants | Jun 19 16:48 |
| Omega | MinceR: we're talking about PRIVATE property | Jun 19 16:48 |
| formic_ | when there are no laws or government, who is the tyrant? | Jun 19 16:48 |
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| MinceR | Omega: yes, i meant private property | Jun 19 16:48 |
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| Omega | meaning private ownership over the means of production | Jun 19 16:49 |
| formic_ | Taoism has anarchist themes | Jun 19 16:49 |
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| MinceR | formic_: but they don't use the trademark! | Jun 19 16:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 16:49 |
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| tsloughter | who will protect the private property? private police and armies (which isn't knew, has been done before and i done today where there is no government or a weak government) | Jun 19 16:50 |
| formic_ | mincer - they can't be anarchists because they aren't following the teaching of communist and/or socialist anarchists | Jun 19 16:50 |
| formic_ | again, redefining what you can find in history | Jun 19 16:50 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: the owners themselves or whomever they trust with doing so, for example | Jun 19 16:50 |
| tsloughter | no, that is simply what has and does happen | Jun 19 16:50 |
| MinceR | or the community | Jun 19 16:50 |
| formic_ | there was anarchy before the first civilization | Jun 19 16:50 |
| tsloughter | yea, and there wasn't private property | Jun 19 16:51 |
| MinceR | there might have been anarchy, but no anarchism | Jun 19 16:51 |
| Omega | "We must therefore conclude that we are not anarchists, and that those who call us anarchists are not on firm etymological ground, and are being completely unhistorical" -- Murray N. Rothbard | Jun 19 16:51 |
| Omega | the father of "anarcho"-capitalism | Jun 19 16:51 |
| tsloughter | haha | Jun 19 16:51 |
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| Omega | MinceR: but what is the problem with socialism? | Jun 19 16:56 |
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| MinceR | Omega: lack of private property | Jun 19 16:57 |
| MinceR | Omega: also, in some forms of socialism, totalitarianism | Jun 19 16:57 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 16:57 |
| Omega | now explain to me why lack of private property is a bad thing | Jun 19 16:58 |
| Omega | are you afraid of not having your own toothbrush? | Jun 19 16:58 |
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| MinceR | yes, for one thing | Jun 19 16:58 |
| MinceR | i also like to have privacy | Jun 19 16:58 |
| Omega | that's not private property | Jun 19 16:58 |
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| MinceR | what is it, if not private property? | Jun 19 16:58 |
| Omega | that is personal property | Jun 19 16:58 |
| *tsloughter wants to be able to run a factory to make money without working! | Jun 19 16:58 | |
| MinceR | ooh, a new, different word! | Jun 19 16:58 |
| Omega | no, it's a very old word | Jun 19 16:58 |
| *tsloughter puts his head in the sand | Jun 19 16:58 | |
| MinceR | and what's the difference between private property and "personal property"? | Jun 19 16:59 |
| Omega | it's the clear distinction that is drawn when talking about property | Jun 19 16:59 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: why not | Jun 19 16:59 |
| formic_ | lol | Jun 19 16:59 |
| formic_ | whats wrong with making passive income? | Jun 19 16:59 |
| MinceR | Omega: what is the "clear distinction"? | Jun 19 16:59 |
| julius1 | passive income doesn't build bridges or houses | Jun 19 16:59 |
| julius1 | workers do | Jun 19 16:59 |
| formic_ | cory doctrow, big creative commons author, gives out all his books for free online and he makes money on the side | Jun 19 16:59 |
| tsloughter | formic_: that is real theft ;) | Jun 19 17:00 |
| MinceR | just "workers" won't build either | Jun 19 17:00 |
| julius1 | why should someone make passive income because they are rich and can invest, while others are forced to work themselves to the bone? | Jun 19 17:00 |
| MinceR | you also need knowledge and expertise to design them | Jun 19 17:00 |
| julius1 | yes | Jun 19 17:00 |
| julius1 | engineers are workers too | Jun 19 17:00 |
| MinceR | and probably to organize it all | Jun 19 17:00 |
| MinceR | you might need to obtain the resources they will be built from | Jun 19 17:00 |
| julius1 | yes | Jun 19 17:00 |
| tsloughter | ok, so you are listing how something is built | Jun 19 17:01 |
| julius1 | the people who do that are also workers | Jun 19 17:01 |
| tsloughter | has nothing to do with what I brought up | Jun 19 17:01 |
| Omega | MinceR: private property are the means of production | Jun 19 17:01 |
| formic_ | 12:00 < tsloughter> formic_: that is real theft ;) | Jun 19 17:01 |
| julius1 | literally every part of constructing a bridge is done by workers other than one: the capitalist demanding where the bridge should be built | Jun 19 17:01 |
| formic_ | how? | Jun 19 17:01 |
| Omega | so factories, land, etc. | Jun 19 17:01 |
| MinceR | Omega: who determines whether my PC is a means of production or not? | Jun 19 17:01 |
| tsloughter | formic_: where does profit come from? | Jun 19 17:01 |
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| MinceR | profit comes from added value | Jun 19 17:02 |
| MinceR | work, ideas, design, the availability of resources | Jun 19 17:02 |
| Omega | MinceR: no one else can use your pc, only you use it, so if it is a means of production it belongs to you - the worker | Jun 19 17:02 |
| MinceR | Omega: i thought you wanted it to belong to everyone or no one | Jun 19 17:02 |
| julius1 | profit comes from extracting value from production | Jun 19 17:02 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: right, labor adds the value, which the capitalist takes a surplus of based on paying less than the value of the labor performed | Jun 19 17:02 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: people purchasing a copy of a book they find value in | Jun 19 17:02 |
| Omega | no, I want it to belong to the ones that use it | Jun 19 17:02 |
| tsloughter | oh dammit | Jun 19 17:03 |
| tsloughter | now they are going to complain when we define value, haha | Jun 19 17:03 |
| tsloughter | exchange value, use-value | Jun 19 17:03 |
| tsloughter | price | Jun 19 17:03 |
| julius1 | MinceR: you doing work on your PC? that's socialism | Jun 19 17:03 |
| Omega | socialism is about the workers control over the means of production | Jun 19 17:03 |
| julius1 | :P | Jun 19 17:03 |
| julius1 | microcosmic | Jun 19 17:03 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: the "capitalist" would probably take profit on the resources he risked in the enterprise | Jun 19 17:03 |
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| julius1 | you're a dirty socialist and have been all along | Jun 19 17:03 |
| MinceR | Omega: so, if i let someone view a website on my PC, it becomes theirs? | Jun 19 17:03 |
| julius1 | MinceR: what has he risked other than previous gains he made throguh exploitation? | Jun 19 17:03 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: you just said where profit came form, and that is not one of them | Jun 19 17:03 |
| formic_ | julius1: start up costs | Jun 19 17:03 |
| julius1 | he's done nothing to gain the capital to invest to begin with | Jun 19 17:04 |
| formic_ | materials aren't free | Jun 19 17:04 |
| MinceR | julius1: hopefully it's not through exploitation :) | Jun 19 17:04 |
| julius1 | formic_: yes, and how did he get the money to pay them? | Jun 19 17:04 |
| Omega | MinceR: no, why would it? | Jun 19 17:04 |
| formic_ | julius1: who knows | Jun 19 17:04 |
| MinceR | julius1: i do not propose to defend unfair trade and crime. | Jun 19 17:04 |
| julius1 | MinceR: almost by definition it's through exploitation | Jun 19 17:04 |
| julius1 | all wage slavery is exploitation | Jun 19 17:04 |
| MinceR | Omega: because then they're the ones using it | Jun 19 17:04 |
| formic_ | wage slavery is wage slavery when you have no choice but to work | Jun 19 17:04 |
| MinceR | julius1: "wage slavery" is just doing work for unfairly low pay, isn't it? | Jun 19 17:05 |
| tsloughter | wages are not based on the value produced by the work, but only what is required to pay the workers for them to a) be able to work the next day b) not revolt | Jun 19 17:05 |
| formic_ | which is currently because we have to pay taxes on everything | Jun 19 17:05 |
| julius1 | www.youtube.com/watch?v=O93YpTYCWRk | Jun 19 17:05 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: no | Jun 19 17:05 |
| julius1 | MinceR: no, wage slavery is doing work for a wage | Jun 19 17:05 |
| MinceR | in a healthy economy, it would matter what value is produced | Jun 19 17:05 |
| tsloughter | surplus valu eis extracted because the vlau eproduced is more than the wage | Jun 19 17:05 |
| formic_ | whats wrong with working in exchange for trade goods? | Jun 19 17:05 |
| julius1 | where the capitalist decides how much the worker is paid, extracts profit from the worker's production, and gives back a portion of the value created | Jun 19 17:05 |
| julius1 | all while doing nothing | Jun 19 17:05 |
| Omega | MinceR: if it becomes a work computer that you both use, then it would be theirs too; but if it's just your personal computer, then it's still yoursels | Jun 19 17:05 |
| formic_ | julius1: not doing nothing | Jun 19 17:05 |
| julius1 | formic_: wage slavery is being locked into a situation where you are forced to work for a capitalist to survive | Jun 19 17:05 |
| formic_ | julius1: running a business, taking risk with start up money | Jun 19 17:06 |
| MinceR | Omega: but then there _is_ a link between the PC and me | Jun 19 17:06 |
| Omega | MinceR: ? | Jun 19 17:06 |
| MinceR | and it's not about who's producing with it at the moment | Jun 19 17:06 |
| julius1 | formic_: and how did he get that startup money? | Jun 19 17:06 |
| julius1 | formic_: undoubtedly through his or his ancestor's exploitation of workers | Jun 19 17:06 |
| formic_ | julius1: perhaps he had other sucsessful businesses | Jun 19 17:06 |
| julius1 | maybe a lone worker who won the lottery | Jun 19 17:06 |
| MinceR | Omega: and more importantly, which of us has the right to know the root password? | Jun 19 17:06 |
| tsloughter | maybe he fell down a hole and landed in a pot of gold | Jun 19 17:06 |
| julius1 | formic_: so previous exploitation justifies future exploitation? | Jun 19 17:06 |
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| formic_ | perhaps the guy got money because he started one business from the ground up himself that earned him money to expand | Jun 19 17:06 |
| Omega | MinceR: they can get their own computer | Jun 19 17:06 |
| Omega | MinceR: what's the problem? | Jun 19 17:07 |
| julius1 | formic_: statistically unlikely | Jun 19 17:07 |
| julius1 | and think about this | Jun 19 17:07 |
| MinceR | Omega: that sounds an awful lot like private property to me | Jun 19 17:07 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 17:07 |
| julius1 | if he started his own business, he is likely already petit-bourgeois | Jun 19 17:07 |
| MinceR | i could say to everything "they can get their own" | Jun 19 17:07 |
| formic_ | julius1: how are you on the internet right now? | Jun 19 17:07 |
| Omega | I mean they literally CAN, I'm not talking about a theological potential | Jun 19 17:07 |
| MinceR | for example, "they can get their own land" | Jun 19 17:07 |
| tsloughter | "get your own only fresh water resource for hundreds of miles! this ones my property!" | Jun 19 17:07 |
| Omega | like when capitalists use the word "can" | Jun 19 17:07 |
| julius1 | formic_: because the military and universities experimented with computer networks | Jun 19 17:08 |
| formic_ | julius1: why are you running capitalist microsoft windows? | Jun 19 17:08 |
| julius1 | formic_: because this is a computer lab | Jun 19 17:08 |
| formic_ | when so many non capitalist options exist | Jun 19 17:08 |
| julius1 | I don't have much choice | Jun 19 17:08 |
| tsloughter | but really, they seem to be arguing mutualist anarchy with this computer startup by one owner talk | Jun 19 17:08 |
| julius1 | my primary computer runs arch linux | Jun 19 17:08 |
| julius1 | formic_: the truth is you seem to think that anyone can "start their own business" | Jun 19 17:09 |
| formic_ | Omega: did you send julius1 and tsloughter into this channel to help support your crazy anarcho-communist ideals? | Jun 19 17:09 |
| MinceR | and yes, they can | Jun 19 17:09 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 17:09 |
| julius1 | realistically the petit-bourgeoisie themselves are overwhelmed by big capital through the nature of capitalism | Jun 19 17:09 |
| tsloughter | dammit julius1, they don't want to talk about reality! ;) | Jun 19 17:09 |
| julius1 | proletarians have little to no ability to compete with bourgeois-run production | Jun 19 17:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, because anarcho-communism is so reality | Jun 19 17:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@ludost @kyrah404 @blackswanburst you mean the whole US of A, until they get their shit together, right? ;) | Jun 19 17:10 | |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jun 19 17:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Opensource geiger counter about to score over $100K on Kickstarter - another great kickstarter project | Jun 19 17:10 | |
| formic_ | I know I get flak for accusing people of being communists, but man, these guys are red flags: Omega, tsloughter, julius1 | Jun 19 17:10 |
| tsloughter | yes, I am a communist | Jun 19 17:10 |
| tsloughter | no flak | Jun 19 17:10 |
| julius1 | which is why today the petit-bourgeoisie is consigned mostly to service that is quickly being taken over | Jun 19 17:10 |
| tsloughter | just what I am | Jun 19 17:10 |
| Omega | MinceR: we were arguing abotu what would happen under socialism, not now | Jun 19 17:10 |
| Omega | MinceR: keep up | Jun 19 17:10 |
| formic_ | communists mistakingly think they are in the same league as anarchists | Jun 19 17:10 |
| julius1 | MinceR: funny, the closest anyone has got to anarchy was the libertarian communist revolution in spain | Jun 19 17:10 |
| MinceR | Omega: meanwhile tsloughter keeps whining that people bring up hypothetical scenarios | Jun 19 17:11 |
| tsloughter | and we do so based on the property relations that exist today and have existed in the past to leadus here | Jun 19 17:11 |
| MinceR | Omega: you can't have both... | Jun 19 17:11 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_without_adjectives | Jun 19 17:11 |
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| julius1 | unless the "A" in "FAI" means "Totally Not Anarchists" | Jun 19 17:11 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: you can | Jun 19 17:11 |
| Omega | MinceR: I'm talking about you and me | Jun 19 17:11 |
| Omega | MinceR: our discussion | Jun 19 17:11 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: named after the communist left wing killer Loughner? | Jun 19 17:11 |
| MinceR | btw, i've seen communism/socialism from pretty close | Jun 19 17:11 |
| MinceR | here in the eastern bloc | Jun 19 17:11 |
| tsloughter | no | Jun 19 17:11 |
| MinceR | it isn't fun. at all. | Jun 19 17:11 |
| Omega | MinceR: it was about socialism, in theory, you presented a hypothetical situation, I replied | Jun 19 17:12 |
| julius1 | that was not communism by definition | Jun 19 17:12 |
| tsloughter | I've seen capitalism up close... | Jun 19 17:12 |
| julius1 | MinceR: the state-capitalism of the eastern bloc is unfortunate | Jun 19 17:12 |
| formic_ | "you guys aren't anarchist, and anarchy isn't what you say it is! why? because its not communist!" | Jun 19 17:12 |
| MinceR | +1 | Jun 19 17:12 |
| julius1 | well, was unfortunate | Jun 19 17:12 |
| julius1 | now eastern europe has reverted to its previous stance of being western europe's third world | Jun 19 17:13 |
| MinceR | hungary is a special case | Jun 19 17:13 |
| MinceR | it has reverted to dictatorship | Jun 19 17:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The bogus drug war: Oliver Stone: "This drug war is insane" http://goo.gl/w8BKk | Jun 19 17:13 | |
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| MinceR | apparently by the voters' choice | Jun 19 17:13 |
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| MinceR | i hate this place | Jun 19 17:13 |
| julius1 | where multinationals can readily exploit the beaten-down local workforce in an attempt to avoid strong labour movements in western europe | Jun 19 17:13 |
| formic_ | Mincer - you were right before about my accusations, communists are so obvious now to me | Jun 19 17:13 |
| julius1 | I am an anarcho-syndicalist | Jun 19 17:14 |
| julius1 | the historically most successful branch of anarchism | Jun 19 17:14 |
| julius1 | still today has the largest and most active anarchist orgs | Jun 19 17:14 |
| Omega | I'm a queer-anarchist | Jun 19 17:14 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jun 19 17:14 |
| julius1 | yes, it is good for me | Jun 19 17:14 |
| julius1 | bad for capitalism-lovers like you | Jun 19 17:14 |
| MinceR | i don't see what that has to do with anything | Jun 19 17:15 |
| tsloughter | sadly the only communist here :( | Jun 19 17:15 |
| julius1 | europe is much more sane in most places | Jun 19 17:16 |
| MinceR | not nearly sane enough | Jun 19 17:16 |
| julius1 | at least there has been a breakthrough in montreal | Jun 19 17:16 |
| julius1 | in europe at least they are beginning to revolt against austerity | Jun 19 17:16 |
| MinceR | the EU was even willing to negotiate about ACTA | Jun 19 17:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Miel_vds: MT @alberto_cottica: Fresh insights about what #opendata apps are about (350 analyzed). h http://ur1. ... | Jun 19 17:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ResulTapmaz: Studenten maken apps voor Gent http://t.co/JUWThzl9 | Jun 19 17:16 | |
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| julius1 | since austerity is basically an attempt to knock western europe down to the level of the USA | Jun 19 17:17 |
| julius1 | under the guise of "curing the recession" | Jun 19 17:17 |
| julius1 | destroy labour movements, dismantle social services, etc. | Jun 19 17:17 |
| schestowitz | julius1: new here? | Jun 19 17:22 |
| julius1 | no, temporary | Jun 19 17:22 |
| julius1 | I just came to argue] | Jun 19 17:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] GRC's | Password Haystacks: How Well Hidden is Your Needle? http://goo.gl/pVqKc #crypto #security #tips (interesting) | Jun 19 17:23 | |
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| schestowitz | ok | Jun 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | just scrolled up | Jun 19 17:27 |
| schestowitz | was with the missus on the phone for an hour, so lost track.. | Jun 19 17:27 |
| *schestowitz back to Ukranian rap | Jun 19 17:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @cameronneylon: First thoughts on the Finch Report: Good steps but missed opportunities ff.im/-YYRpg | Jun 19 17:33 | |
| schestowitz | cnet is shaking up Android http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57455054-94/would-samsung-ever-leave-android-new-ceo-drops-hints/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title | Jun 19 17:36 |
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| formic_ | 12:14 < julius1> bad for capitalism-lovers like you | Jun 19 17:37 |
| schestowitz | sounds perverse | Jun 19 17:38 |
| formic_ | money is a common denominator for trade | Jun 19 17:38 |
| schestowitz | "lover" | Jun 19 17:38 |
| schestowitz | nope, formic_ | Jun 19 17:38 |
| julius1 | it is perverse | Jun 19 17:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Mona Nomura http://ur1.ca/9j3v7 | Jun 19 17:38 | |
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| schestowitz | money is a representation of it | Jun 19 17:38 |
| formic_ | its not efficient to try finding someone who will trade your corn for something you need | Jun 19 17:38 |
| schestowitz | manifestation/token/currency | Jun 19 17:38 |
| formic_ | bitcoin is a nice example of decentralized currency | Jun 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | the common denominator can be bonds or alliances | Jun 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | ultimately it's power | Jun 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | or purchasing power | Jun 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | same thing | Jun 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | you can purchase weapons | Jun 19 17:39 |
| formic_ | sure you can trade phyiscal objects, but what if you need a rake and nobody wants corn? | Jun 19 17:39 |
| schestowitz | So money can be sub'd for subjugation | Jun 19 17:39 |
| formic_ | schestowitz: how do you trade then | Jun 19 17:40 |
| schestowitz | people work in groups | Jun 19 17:40 |
| schestowitz | find a friend who has something other than corn | Jun 19 17:41 |
| schestowitz | bartering by favour | Jun 19 17:41 |
| schestowitz | paper trail or mental note | Jun 19 17:41 |
| formic_ | schestowitz: so you're willing to drag around 50 goats while trying to find a trader who needs 50 goats? | Jun 19 17:42 |
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| formic_ | schestowitz: meanwhile, you're not even allowed to own 50 goats according to some of these new ppl here | Jun 19 17:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stable kernels 3.0.35 and 3.4.3 http://ur1.ca/9iva4 #linux | Jun 19 17:43 | |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 17:45 |
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| MinceR | no, you're supposed to just take what you need | Jun 19 17:45 |
| Omega | of course you can't own goats | Jun 19 17:45 |
| Omega | they are sentient beings | Jun 19 17:45 |
| formic_ | :) | Jun 19 17:45 |
| Omega | it's slavery | Jun 19 17:45 |
| MinceR | really? | Jun 19 17:45 |
| MinceR | goats are people now? | Jun 19 17:45 |
| formic_ | goats have rights! | Jun 19 17:46 |
| Omega | where di I say that? | Jun 19 17:46 |
| formic_ | goats should be voting | Jun 19 17:46 |
| formic_ | damn it! | Jun 19 17:46 |
| Omega | of course they have right | Jun 19 17:46 |
| Omega | s | Jun 19 17:46 |
| Omega | they are sentient beings | Jun 19 17:46 |
| Omega | just like infants have rights | Jun 19 17:46 |
| formic_ | food doesn't have rights | Jun 19 17:46 |
| Omega | and mentally handicapped people have rights | Jun 19 17:46 |
| formic_ | do you think that animals think of their prey's rights? | Jun 19 17:47 |
| MinceR | except the right to own objects | Jun 19 17:47 |
| MinceR | boom! | Jun 19 17:47 |
| Omega | you still struggle with the concept of personal property MinceR? | Jun 19 17:47 |
| MinceR | how can someone struggle with something that is imaginary and arbitrary? | Jun 19 17:47 |
| Omega | formic_: no, because they have no other choice, we do have a choice | Jun 19 17:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody #Monsanto May Be Forced To Repay Brazilian GM Soybean Royalties Worth Billions Of Dollars - http://bit.ly/Mq1c7v ouch #br | Jun 19 17:48 | |
| Omega | MinceR: all concepts are imaginary and arbitrary | Jun 19 17:48 |
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| MinceR | and what rights would you give to goats? | Jun 19 17:48 |
| Omega | the right not to be a fucking slave | Jun 19 17:49 |
| MinceR | define "fucking slave" | Jun 19 17:49 |
| formic_ | Omega: you would be a slave under socialism and communism | Jun 19 17:49 |
| MinceR | am i allowed to eat the goat? | Jun 19 17:49 |
| formic_ | and anarcho-communism and anarcho-socialism | Jun 19 17:49 |
| formic_ | you're a worker, and you have to contribute communally | Jun 19 17:49 |
| formic_ | you're a labour slave | Jun 19 17:50 |
| MinceR | you don't have to contribute, they'll just take your stuff without asking you | Jun 19 17:50 |
| MinceR | because everyone is entitled to it | Jun 19 17:50 |
| formic_ | you'll have to perform manual labour just to eat | Jun 19 17:50 |
| formic_ | because art, intellectual creations, etc aren't 'valuable' | Jun 19 17:50 |
| MinceR | don't worry, you don't get to eat | Jun 19 17:50 |
| formic_ | are considered 'theft' if you try and sell | Jun 19 17:50 |
| MinceR | because your food has rights and you do not | Jun 19 17:50 |
| Omega | who is "they"? | Jun 19 17:51 |
| Omega | and why would they take my stuff | Jun 19 17:51 |
| MinceR | the "anarcho-"communists | Jun 19 17:51 |
| formic_ | everyone | Jun 19 17:51 |
| Omega | I don't think you know hat you are talking about | Jun 19 17:51 |
| MinceR | and because they think it's not yours | Jun 19 17:51 |
| formic_ | they'll take your goats, because you can't own them | Jun 19 17:52 |
| Omega | (well that was apparant, not knowing the difference ebtween private and personal property) | Jun 19 17:52 |
| MinceR | (since there's none) | Jun 19 17:52 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 17:52 |
| Omega | have you read any socialist literature at all? | Jun 19 17:52 |
| Omega | or do you just go by the terms used on tv during the red scare? | Jun 19 17:52 |
| MinceR | (it's just something you made up when i made it apparent that the idea of no property is very problematic, even if we ignore the issue of no incentives to do one's work well) | Jun 19 17:52 |
| MinceR | i just go by the terms i researched on wikipedia, everything2, reddit and other sources | Jun 19 17:53 |
| Omega | so, no actual sources | Jun 19 17:53 |
| Omega | but what people have tld you yhey are | Jun 19 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Band's 4am name prompts licensing officer and police visit http://goo.gl/aGlDk | Jun 19 17:53 | |
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| Omega | you really think I made up the private/personal property thing? | Jun 19 17:53 |
| Omega | google it | Jun 19 17:53 |
| MinceR | could be other "anarcho-"communists, for all i know | Jun 19 17:54 |
| MinceR | after all, the issue is really glaring | Jun 19 17:54 |
| Omega | http://www.revleft.com/vb/difference-between-private-t27576/index.html?s=00ab4ad0c3f6f8b357ac8e57aaad4701& | Jun 19 17:54 |
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| Omega | of course someone has to invent these terms | Jun 19 17:55 |
| Omega | so we know what we're talking about | Jun 19 17:55 |
| Omega | it's what langauge is | Jun 19 17:55 |
| Omega | http://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/pey8z/private_property_comic/ | Jun 19 17:56 |
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| Omega | you like reddit, so there | Jun 19 17:56 |
| MinceR | not very well done | Jun 19 17:57 |
| MinceR | just the usual populist crap | Jun 19 17:57 |
| formic_ | 12:53 <@MinceR> i just go by the terms i researched on wikipedia, everything2, reddit and | Jun 19 18:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Suddenly, #Windows8 logo makes sooo much more sense! http://ur1.ca/9j40z !linux !lol !memes !fs !ubuntu | Jun 19 18:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TrueCrypt Forums :: #Security Analysis of #TrueCrypt 7.0a by CCC http://goo.gl/tSw1m #crypto | Jun 19 18:01 | |
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| formic_ | other sources | Jun 19 18:01 |
| formic_ | 12:53 < Omega> so, no actual sources | Jun 19 18:01 |
| formic_ | LOL | Jun 19 18:02 |
| formic_ | disagreement with sources = no actual sources | Jun 19 18:02 |
| formic_ | our sources aren't boosting an unobtainable utopia | Jun 19 18:02 |
| formic_ | no good! | Jun 19 18:02 |
| Omega | reddit isn't a source | Jun 19 18:02 |
| Omega | wikipedia isn't a source | Jun 19 18:02 |
| Omega | everything2 isn't a source | Jun 19 18:02 |
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| formic_ | wikipedia can be a good starting point, it has sources | Jun 19 18:03 |
| formic_ | wikipedia has rules that promote neutral POV's | Jun 19 18:03 |
| MinceR | "it doesn't support my communist agenda" => "it isn't a source" | Jun 19 18:05 |
| MinceR | "if it happens to agree with me, only then can it be a source" | Jun 19 18:05 |
| Omega | really, all you keep telling me is "you're a communist" | Jun 19 18:06 |
| Omega | formic_: indeed it can be a good starting point | Jun 19 18:06 |
| MinceR | yes, that's all you want to hear | Jun 19 18:06 |
| Omega | but you can't read a wikipedia article and expect to understand an ideology enough to be able to attack it | Jun 19 18:06 |
| Omega | (with things that are not part of the ideology) | Jun 19 18:07 |
| MinceR | oh, so you get to attack ideologies with things that are not part of it, but people who don't agree with you don't? | Jun 19 18:07 |
| Omega | what? | Jun 19 18:07 |
| Omega | my source isn't wikipedia | Jun 19 18:08 |
| Omega | I don't read a singlea rticle and think I'm knowledgeable on the topic | Jun 19 18:08 |
| MinceR | my sources are different from yours, therefore i'm right and you're wrong | Jun 19 18:09 |
| Omega | when you are talking about terms like private property | Jun 19 18:11 |
| Omega | it's a good idea to know what it means | Jun 19 18:11 |
| formic_ | you've read stuff who append adjectives to anarchy | Jun 19 18:11 |
| Omega | we can't argue otherwise | Jun 19 18:11 |
| MinceR | not just append adjectives, but also claim the term to their own ideologies | Jun 19 18:12 |
| Omega | I can be a darwinist and believe in god, god dammit! | Jun 19 18:12 |
| MinceR | what's a "darwinist"? | Jun 19 18:12 |
| Omega | use one of your sources | Jun 19 18:13 |
| Omega | but I've got to go now | Jun 19 18:13 |
| Omega | have a nice day | Jun 19 18:13 |
| MinceR | oh, so you also have something to learn about biology :> | Jun 19 18:13 |
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| formic_ | a darwinist is someone who believes in evolution | Jun 19 18:15 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism | Jun 19 18:16 |
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| MinceR | as if Darwin was the only one who advanced that theory | Jun 19 18:16 |
| formic_ | he deserves credit for it | Jun 19 18:16 |
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| MinceR | knowledge of science isn't an "-ism" | Jun 19 18:17 |
| formic_ | only americans have a negative association with the word 'darwinism' | Jun 19 18:17 |
| formic_ | usually creationists | Jun 19 18:17 |
| formic_ | other people who are actually scientists don't mind the term | Jun 19 18:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Monsanto May Be Forced To Repay Brazilian GM Soybean Royalties Worth Billions Of Dollars http://identi.ca/url/72343418 | Jun 19 18:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Linux.com original: What are the hottest #mobile #cloud apps? #Android and #opensource http://bit.ly/KK5kU6 | Jun 19 18:18 | |
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| formic_ | Omega: heres a brainfuck, you'll never have communism because you exist in my world currently. The version of you that gets to have it is in some other dimension. | Jun 19 18:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 18:20 |
| formic_ | Omega: you're just a figment of my imagination | Jun 19 18:21 |
| Omega | so much for your world, you can't even choose to not shovel the snow away | Jun 19 18:21 |
| formic_ | Omega: don't feel so bad, there is a version of you where you're actually right | Jun 19 18:22 |
| formic_ | Omega: there might even be a communist version of me out there in another dimension that might agree with you | Jun 19 18:23 |
| Omega | MinceR: don't you think there's something wrong with your position when someone like formic_ supports it | Jun 19 18:24 |
| Omega | "there might even be a communist version of me out there in another dimension that might agree with you" | Jun 19 18:24 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 18:24 |
| formic_ | Omega: its called science | Jun 19 18:24 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 18:24 |
| formic_ | 11 dimensions | Jun 19 18:24 |
| Omega | right | Jun 19 18:24 |
| Omega | string theory isn't fact | Jun 19 18:24 |
| formic_ | the 6th dimension is where you are right now, your observation creats your own world | Jun 19 18:25 |
| Omega | and it doesn't work like that | Jun 19 18:25 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 18:25 |
| formic_ | Omega: read a textbook on quantum mechanics | Jun 19 18:25 |
| Omega | you have no understanding of string theory ): | Jun 19 18:25 |
| Omega | I actually study physics | Jun 19 18:25 |
| formic_ | it's you that doesn't | Jun 19 18:25 |
| Omega | I didn't just watch a dr quantum video | Jun 19 18:25 |
| formic_ | http://www.tenthdimension.com/ | Jun 19 18:26 |
| iophk | http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/sid-meier-on-players-decade-long-civilization-game/2012/06/18/gJQAqgQ9lV_story.html | Jun 19 18:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] for those interested in kazakhstan dpi and relation to #tor, see http://ur1.ca/8hlnp | Jun 19 18:26 | |
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| formic_ | this is the best way I can explain it to you (and its not even me doing the explaining) - http://youtu.be/COAfHQNFEb8 | Jun 19 18:27 |
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| formic_ | believe what you want | Jun 19 18:28 |
| formic_ | you can believe in the flying spagetti monster, or some nonsense utopia that will never happen because it requires 100% support of everyone | Jun 19 18:29 |
| Omega | hey | Jun 19 18:30 |
| Omega | I never thought of that! | Jun 19 18:30 |
| Omega | you're absolutely right! | Jun 19 18:30 |
| Omega | how come nobody told me that before! | Jun 19 18:31 |
| Omega | all these years | Jun 19 18:31 |
| Omega | all these years | Jun 19 18:31 |
| Omega | nobody said that before | Jun 19 18:31 |
| Omega | oh wait... | Jun 19 18:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: wait, wait-- why do we have the status quo then? | Jun 19 18:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: isn't that supported by everyone? | Jun 19 18:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | if not, how do we come to have it?! | Jun 19 18:31 |
| Omega | by force of course | Jun 19 18:32 |
| formic_ | theres an international banking cartel that has had control for centuries | Jun 19 18:33 |
| formic_ | they won't agree with your utopia | Jun 19 18:33 |
| formic_ | i dont agree with them running things either, but what are you gonna do about it? | Jun 19 18:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] while the UK has a veto in the UN, it won't matter if the entire world back Argentina's claim on the Falklands, the Uk will veto it | Jun 19 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cameron is quick to back "the peoples chopice" as long as they vote the way he wants, would he support the Falkland islanders otherwise? | Jun 19 18:33 | |
| Omega | but I'll ask they real nicely | Jun 19 18:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Omega: that was my idea too! | Jun 19 18:33 |
| Omega | please give up your power | Jun 19 18:33 |
| Omega | please! | Jun 19 18:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Omega: maybe if we keep on voting! | Jun 19 18:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Omega: we can change everything! | Jun 19 18:34 |
| Omega | that'll surely work! | Jun 19 18:34 |
| formic_ | are you going to kill people who don't agree with communism? | Jun 19 18:35 |
| formic_ | like Mao, Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin and Castro? | Jun 19 18:35 |
| Omega | or other state heards* | Jun 19 18:36 |
| Omega | heads* | Jun 19 18:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | state heards | Jun 19 18:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol | Jun 19 18:36 |
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| Omega | if someone were going to harm a comrade of someone's and the only way to stop them would be to kill them, I think I know what they'd say to the question "are you going to kill people who don't agree with? like Mao, Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin and Castro?" | Jun 19 18:38 |
| Omega | inb4 no one is harmed by capitalism | Jun 19 18:39 |
| formic_ | so killing is fine if they aren't communists, but its wrong if you're protecting land you just aquired? | Jun 19 18:39 |
| Omega | but I gotta yet | Jun 19 18:39 |
| Omega | jet* | Jun 19 18:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 2 new videos on why & how #GLAM's can share their knowledge using #CreativeCommons by WikiAfrica: http://youtu.be/CPWc18LswRM #CC BY-SA | Jun 19 18:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Current status: bit.ly/M0AR0Q | Jun 19 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How To Encrypt Your Dropbox Data With ENCFS [Linux] http://goo.gl/kKVKn #crypto #tips #gnulinux | Jun 19 18:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] SpiderOak – An Online Data Backup & Sharing Solution [Cross-Platform] http://goo.gl/45yr #tips #crypto | Jun 19 18:46 | |
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| *DaemonFC collectivizes all of formic_'s dairy farms and makes him raise chickens instead | Jun 19 18:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Real #beardpower - George Baker Selection :-) Little green bag, Paloma Blanca - ah, childhood memories ... | Jun 19 18:48 | |
| *DaemonFC wonders who Diebold will give us this year | Jun 19 18:49 | |
| DaemonFC | the anticipation is killing me, like the arsenic in my drinking water | Jun 19 18:49 |
| julius1 | bender | Jun 19 18:55 |
| julius1 | for president | Jun 19 18:55 |
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| formic_ | http://imgur.com/4KjMb | Jun 19 18:56 |
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| formic_ | lol | Jun 19 18:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be very England to go from joint top of the group, to "out" in the last game by colapsing, and the other game not doing them any favour | Jun 19 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Years ago the nice chaps at Dell handed me an iPod Nano 1st generation (2GB). Recently Apple started a recall program ... http://b1t.it/bDVp | Jun 19 18:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Drumming up for a war starts now... and they seem to be tying #Iran with #Syria militarily... two birds (invasions, coups) with one stone... | Jun 19 19:03 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, I wonder when the AM2+ processors will go on fire sale prices | Jun 19 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | I have a hankering to upgrade when that happens | Jun 19 19:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] PROV-AQ: Provenance Access and Query Draft Published http://dlvr.it/1kz8bY | Jun 19 19:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Media Queries and 'view mode' are W3C Recommendations http://dlvr.it/1kz8jG | Jun 19 19:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lightworks Running On Ubuntu; Pro Film Editing Coming To Linux? http://ur1.ca/9j4fp #ubuntu #linux | Jun 19 19:08 | |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 19 19:10 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jun 19 19:10 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 19 19:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @BWcomms [British Waterways] says "we're looking into releasing the data [more widely] and might consider it in the future. :)" | Jun 19 19:13 | |
| scientes | schestowitz, “Two Britons were killed in an air crash today. The other victims were, in order of importance, 4 Americans, 1 Australian, 3 French and 213 Africans.” | Jun 19 19:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | scientes: touché | Jun 19 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | so you repackage that for Fox News and it was....four Americans, six "other coalition forces", and 213 "Islamic militant terrorists" | Jun 19 19:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC: LOL | Jun 19 19:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: hah | Jun 19 19:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #Lightworks Running On Ubuntu; Pro Film Editing Coming To Linux? http://ur1.ca/9j4fp #ubuntu #linux | Jun 19 19:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | qu1j0t3: We're winning! WINNING I TELLS YA! | Jun 19 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | MUAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!! | Jun 19 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | SURGE!!!! SURGE!!!!! | Jun 19 19:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @zach Microsoft Threat Management Gateway classifies donating to the FSF as gambling. !fsf http://ur1.ca/9j4c1 | Jun 19 19:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz RT @glynmoody #Monsanto May Be Forced To Repay Brazilian GM Soybean Royalties Worth Billions Of Dollars - http://bit.ly/ ... | Jun 19 19:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | POWER SLAM! | Jun 19 19:20 |
| schestowitz | scientes: lol | Jun 19 19:21 |
| schestowitz | the cost of 'democracy' (occupation) in Iraq: a few thousands of violent soldiers | Jun 19 19:22 |
| schestowitz | let's set up a monument for them in Baghdad, like Stalin's in Absurdistan | Jun 19 19:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ITU & the Real Threats to Internet, Part IV: the Triumph of State Security & Proposed Changes to ITRs - http://bit.ly/NfcFJx interesting | Jun 19 19:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Bush's Boots? | Jun 19 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | has a nice ring to it | Jun 19 19:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] this is the most secure browser ever! ;) http://goo.gl/GIcJs | Jun 19 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2nd Tier Status for #Canada?: 5 Questions On Canada's Entry to The Trans Pacific Partnership Talks - http://bit.ly/LcFCra humiliating | Jun 19 19:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@kariera2012: 23.06 uczestnicy Targów w Poznaniu usłyszą m.in prezentację Michała "ryśka" Woźniaka nt wolnego oprogramowania #poznan #fwioo | Jun 19 19:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Syria #UN mission headed by spy? (Op-Ed) — RT http://goo.gl/oB5zv #nato #nwo | Jun 19 19:31 | |
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| formic_ | julias1 is guilty of going to a capitalist school which promotes mining innovation | Jun 19 19:33 |
| formic_ | http://laurentian.ca/Laurentian/Home/About+LU/Welcome+-+About+LU.htm?Laurentian_Lang=en-CA | Jun 19 19:33 |
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| formic_ | http://www.miningexcellence.ca/ | Jun 19 19:33 |
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| formic_ | "industry-driven research" = lobbyist driven research | Jun 19 19:34 |
| schestowitz | not exactly | Jun 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz | it's them who fund it | Jun 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz | for the lobbyists to then use | Jun 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz | they hire corruptible analysts from gartner or some uni | Jun 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz | and then they use the results to do media propaganda and lobbying with some snakes like Florian | Jun 19 19:35 |
| schestowitz | it's polluting the pool of real research | Jun 19 19:36 |
| schestowitz | like the stuff on cellphone, global warming | Jun 19 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Tirar dias de férias ou feriados aos portugueses não passam de tretas", diz #MedinaCarreira - SAPO Notícias http://goo.gl/LOQDt #pt | Jun 19 19:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] SAY IT LOUD: "I'M GEEK AND I'M PROUD!" #FeelsGoodMan #EdgeRyders #lote | Jun 19 19:38 | |
| DaemonFC | as if textbooks weren't already expensive enough, now schools are giving out ipads | Jun 19 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | and on top of the millions of dollars each one spends on ipads, they have to pay a separate fee for the textbook "apps" | Jun 19 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | although it probably does make it easier to change the course content each time the politicians decide new propaganda is needed | Jun 19 19:40 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 19 19:48 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jun 19 19:48 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 19 19:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Hey #ITU! The net belongs 2 us. Release any proposals to regulate it. Sign @accessnow petition: http://bit.ly/KOpPM3 #netfreedom | Jun 19 19:48 | |
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| MinceR | Omega: argumentum ad hominem | Jun 19 19:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/06/18/1718254/national-do-not-kill-registry-launched-in-response-to-drone-kill-list | Jun 19 19:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fedora 17 ARM GA Release http://ur1.ca/9j4nx | Jun 19 19:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.4.3-gnu and 3.0.35-gnu mipsel binaries for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now available | Jun 19 19:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Matthew Garrett http://ur1.ca/9j4p0 | Jun 19 19:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @kyrah404: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange takes refuge at the Ecuador embassy in London and seeks asylum http://t.co/NNv2rNrG #wtfweek | Jun 19 20:01 | |
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| formic_ | MinceR: eh? | Jun 19 20:07 |
| formic_ | qu1j0t3: what happens if they do kill you, and you're on the list? | Jun 19 20:07 |
| MinceR | formic_: 192407 #techrights: < Omega> MinceR: don't you think there's something wrong with your position when someone like formic_ supports it | Jun 19 20:07 |
| formic_ | MinceR: oh thank you :) | Jun 19 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: I guess your estate sues. | Jun 19 20:08 |
| formic_ | qu1j0t3: estate? | Jun 19 20:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: i can only see this concept as comedy | Jun 19 20:08 |
| formic_ | qu1j0t3: no such thing as an estate under the proliteriate utopia! | Jun 19 20:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 20:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Liberation fonts and the tricky task of internationalization http://ur1.ca/9j4rl | Jun 19 20:10 | |
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| formic_ | czary! | Jun 19 20:11 |
| prurigro | character attacks are the most sound arguments imho | Jun 19 20:12 |
| MinceR | well, they're certainly easy to make | Jun 19 20:14 |
| MinceR | though i find attacking misspellings and grammar errors even easier | Jun 19 20:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Secret documents show how hard Conservative government lobbied to get into #TPP talks - http://bit.ly/Nfo3oK deathwish? (v @PCGTW) #ca | Jun 19 20:15 | |
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| prurigro | MinceR, good point-- I'd forgotten about the old fallacy that declares your argument toast upon your opponent's discovery of incorrect spelling and grammar | Jun 19 20:18 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 19 20:20 |
| formic_ | also their argument is toast upon the opponents use of images | Jun 19 20:22 |
| formic_ | http://imgur.com/Xcw1d | Jun 19 20:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Just added a new #CC Kickstarter project to our page: http://www.kickstarter.com/creativecommons Check out Haunts video game + others! | Jun 19 20:23 | |
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| iophk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/19/julian-assange-wikileaks-asylum-ecuador | Jun 19 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange seeking asylum in Ecuadorian embassy in London | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 106.49 KB | Jun 19 20:24 |
| iophk | The Guardian still gets it wrong, there have been no accusations yet, he is just wanted for questioning. | Jun 19 20:25 |
| iophk | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/06/ap-julian-assange-seeks-asylum-in-ecuador-embassy/1 | Jun 19 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wikileaks' Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador Embassy .::. Size~: 28.22 KB | Jun 19 20:25 |
| iophk | Strangely McNews got it right. | Jun 19 20:25 |
| formic_ | McNews? | Jun 19 20:26 |
| formic_ | iophk: if its just questioning, why doesnt he go to sweden and answer? | Jun 19 20:27 |
| prurigro | I feel like the news has less and less of an idea what they're talking about these days | Jun 19 20:27 |
| prurigro | isn't sweden a trap? | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | it is | Jun 19 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Assange seeks asylum at Ecuador embassy http://identi.ca/url/72345374 !wl | Jun 19 20:28 | |
| MinceR | sweden has subjected itself to the will of usian interests | Jun 19 20:28 |
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| formic_ | of course its a trap | Jun 19 20:28 |
| formic_ | one of the accusers is a militant ex-cia feminist | Jun 19 20:28 |
| MinceR | http://instanttrap.com/ | Jun 19 20:29 |
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| prurigro | "ex cia" | Jun 19 20:29 |
| prurigro | certainly not still cia | Jun 19 20:29 |
| formic_ | who knows | Jun 19 20:31 |
| formic_ | bin laden was "ex cia" | Jun 19 20:32 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 20:32 |
| MinceR | how do you know bin laden was _ex_ cia? :> | Jun 19 20:32 |
| *DaemonFC happens to think the CIA should be disbanded | Jun 19 20:33 | |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, they're listening... | Jun 19 20:33 |
| *DaemonFC LOVES THE CIA!!! | Jun 19 20:33 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 20:33 |
| prurigro | I know saddam hussein was ex cia, but was bin ladin? | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | dunno about that | Jun 19 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | if I could rearrange the federal government, the CIA, TSA, and ICE would be shut down | Jun 19 20:34 |
| MinceR | i think i've heard that the usa did fund him | Jun 19 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | and anything they were doing that was a legitimate law enforcement operation would be given to the FBI | Jun 19 20:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] noticed a scary #Android app - check the personal info permissions it wants http://goo.gl/op0nY | Jun 19 20:35 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/png type | Jun 19 20:35 |
| prurigro | the Bush family is close to the Bin Ladin family, who are extremely rich-- I suppose they could have made monies together | Jun 19 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | the DHS itself would be shut down and the FBI would go back to being an independent agency | Jun 19 20:35 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing DHS seems to have done is all the same stuff that was being done before, only it adds a few billion dollars a year in overhead to put them all under the same parent agency | Jun 19 20:36 |
| formic_ | al qaeda was founded by the cia | Jun 19 20:36 |
| formic_ | they were used to fight the USSR during the cold war | Jun 19 20:37 |
| formic_ | in afghanistan | Jun 19 20:37 |
| prurigro | well technically, al qaeda never existed | Jun 19 20:37 |
| prurigro | and the name was definitely made up by the CIA | Jun 19 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | the Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, and US Marshals could all be shut down and integrated into the FBI as well | Jun 19 20:38 |
| formic_ | the people who participated were CIA trained | Jun 19 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | the NSA would be allowed to stay but it would be reigned in, and its primary purpose would be to help secure the general network infrastructure of the US government | Jun 19 20:39 |
| formic_ | http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/osamabinladen/ | Jun 19 20:40 |
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| iophk | formic_ if it's just questioning why don't they do it over the phone? He was in the country a while ago and left with their permission. | Jun 19 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | all land based nuclear weapons would be decommissioned and scrapped for things like reactor fuel for nuclear power plants | Jun 19 20:41 |
| iophk | formic_: http://notesonwikileaks.tumblr.com/post/15251907983/assange-extradition-fact-sheet | Jun 19 20:41 |
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| DaemonFC | they don't protect the country, they only make legitimate targets out of areas of the US that are close to civilian populations | Jun 19 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek indeed! xD | Jun 19 20:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @grmpyoldman Made me laugh at me, so i think you meant trolling | Jun 19 20:41 | |
| DaemonFC | so get rid of them | Jun 19 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | save a fortune in the process | Jun 19 20:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I am soo en-edge-ized after #lote it's just not proper. gotta wind down a bit. or... not. | Jun 19 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@JPBarlow @quinnnorton the obvious question is: does he want to face them... | Jun 19 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] BREAKING: Canada to join secretive #TPP negotiations https://eff.org/r.3adq | Jun 19 20:45 | |
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| iophk | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2012/06/special-edition-of-doom-3-launches-in-october/1 | Jun 19 20:48 |
| iophk | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-install-doom3-game/ | Jun 19 20:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 53 dents! | Jun 19 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Nope uh uh…clearly there's no such thing as #ClimateChange —31 °C/41.9 Humidex normal 4 Ontario Spring #gotabridgeforsaleinBrooklyn !CDNpoli | Jun 19 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thank you @nj3ma :) | Jun 19 20:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff BREAKING: Canada to join secretive #TPP negotiations https://eff.org/r.3adq | Jun 19 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Breaking from BBC Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador Embassy | Jun 19 20:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Why are we insisting on living the 19th C again?♻ @guardian: 1/2 of teachers forced to feed pupils going hungry at home ... | Jun 19 20:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canada to join Trans-Pacific trade talks: Harper | Reuters .::. Size~: 96.36 KB | Jun 19 20:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vvillenave @zach Well, in some way donating to the !FSF *is* a bet, a bet on the future of humanity. I'm sure _that_ is what they ha ... | Jun 19 20:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The patent system is broken. Let's create a system that defends innovation: http://ur1.ca/9j6jw #patentfail | Jun 19 21:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join us now at our Ubuntu App Dev Q+A live at http://is.gd/oa5ieZ #ubuntu | Jun 19 21:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Any #Wordpress.com Wizards out there? I changed permalinks from "Default" http://libreleft.com/?p=123 to "Day and name" & now NOTHING works | Jun 19 21:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Oops I mean this is why you must write #RIND (Rind Is Not Deskelf.com) | Jun 19 21:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #Wordpress.org Wizards: HELP! I changed permalinks from "Default" http://libreleft.com/?p=123 to "Day and name" & now NOTHING works | Jun 19 21:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what is it with more and more #Android apps wanting access to confidential personal info & permission to spam your contacts w/o asking you? | Jun 19 21:18 | |
| formic_ | doom3 <3 | Jun 19 21:20 |
| formic_ | I want to see some games that use the doom3 engine | Jun 19 21:25 |
| formic_ | open source games | Jun 19 21:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] congrats to #England, winners of their group #ec2012 | Jun 19 21:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] UEFA referees mistakes at EU championship definitely will cause a discussion on using cameras in the future. I find this unbearable. | Jun 19 21:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Continuing the #wtfweek and #wtfday - Hosni #Mubarak had a stroke, and is in critical condition, apparently #jan25 | Jun 19 21:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pirate Bay Disarms BT Blockade Within Minutes http://goo.gl/1yQRk | Jun 19 21:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft Could Be Alienating Hardware Partners With New Tablets http://goo.gl/lSaRx | Jun 19 21:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Kodak sues #Apple for interfering in#patent portfolio sale http://goo.gl/wM6qI | Jun 19 21:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And again two teams make it to the next round that actually didn't deserve it. | Jun 19 21:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kodak sues Apple for interfering in patent portfolio sale | The Verge .::. Size~: 97.03 KB | Jun 19 21:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #StatCounter Blasts #Microsoft's Claim About #IE Still Being the Number 1 Browser http://goo.gl/Zzjq5 | Jun 19 21:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "be honest, because you always are" WTF? if he's always honest why tell him to be honest? #qualityreporters | Jun 19 21:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FBI & #DEA Warn That IPv6 May Be Too Damn Anonymous http://goo.gl/DbfPa sounds like the best reason to switch | Jun 19 21:58 | |
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| oddpuck | they can deal with it | Jun 19 21:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Because We All Know What #Skype Was Missing Was #Intrusive Advertising, #Microsoft Has Decided To Add It http://goo.gl/tS9Y0 | Jun 19 22:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Because We All Know What Skype Was Missing Was Intrusive Advertising, Microsoft Has Decided To Add It | Techdirt .::. Size~: 123.82 KB | Jun 19 22:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "vacuum cleaner" - why would I need one? if it needs cleaning, it's obviously *not* vacuum... #BadPun | Jun 19 22:05 | |
| formic_ | oddpuck - who can deal with what | Jun 19 22:17 |
| oddpuck | fbi and dea can deal with ipv6 being maybe more anonymous than ipv4 | Jun 19 22:18 |
| formic_ | that makes no sense, its not more anonymous | Jun 19 22:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canada to join Trans-Pacific trade talks - http://reut.rs/N5SCda note ridiculous figures for claimed benefits (v @publicknowledge) #TPP | Jun 19 22:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canada to join Trans-Pacific trade talks | Reuters .::. Size~: 99.14 KB | Jun 19 22:18 |
| formic_ | its less anonymous | Jun 19 22:18 |
| formic_ | your ipv6 will include part of your mac | Jun 19 22:19 |
| formic_ | which can be traced to who built your computer/network card | Jun 19 22:19 |
| oddpuck | it was the headline of an article posted by the bot right above my comment | Jun 19 22:19 |
| formic_ | ohhhhhh! | Jun 19 22:20 |
| formic_ | I blocked the bots | Jun 19 22:20 |
| formic_ | too noisey | Jun 19 22:20 |
| oddpuck | ah | Jun 19 22:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Defend Innovation - clip software patents' wings - http://bit.ly/NO4ZAH a good start, but even more is needed... (v @webmink) | Jun 19 22:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @windigo It would violate American's privacy if NSA told how many American's privacy it violates: http://ur1.ca/9j6vs | Jun 19 22:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "Start-Up Hopes to Create Free Digital [#CC] Versions of Published Books" by Chronicle of Higher Ed: http://bit.ly/MbGPup | Jun 19 22:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] David Lowery Wants A Pony - http://bit.ly/KKDffj what he said | Jun 19 22:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Start-Up Hopes to Create Free Digital Versions of Published Books - Wired Campus - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 64.33 KB | Jun 19 22:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Video: Virtualization Management the oVirt Way - bit.ly/McR0Pa | Jun 19 22:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @herrurbach: Mubarak was my first endboss. #telecomix #Tahrir | Jun 19 22:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @htgamal: Ahmad Shafiq, not to be outdone, announces that he himself had died days ago. | Jun 19 22:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sprachlos sei. http://ur1.ca/9j728 | Jun 19 22:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Wired's @dmkravets on Google's transparency report: Internet companies must tell us how much we're being surveilled: https://eff.org/r.a9dr | Jun 19 23:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Letter to Internet Companies: Tell Us How Much We Are Being Surveilled | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 60.46 KB | Jun 19 23:06 |
| MinceR | gn | Jun 19 23:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Johnathan Chung http://ur1.ca/9j76l | Jun 19 23:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Funny observation :P #Microsoft #surface .::. Size~: 135.54 KB | Jun 19 23:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada Must Read: C. D. Howe Institute Signals Ontario Mega Rich How to Revolt by @larryrusswurm http://www.ur1.ca/9ir1y !CDNpoli | Jun 19 23:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevingranade I'm so used to pdfs launching in an external application that I keep killing firefox now that it has an internal pdf re ... | Jun 19 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav Happy !Birthday Aung San Suu Kyi, General Secretary of the NLD in Burma, former political prisoner & !Nobel Peace Prize laureat ... | Jun 19 23:36 | |
| DaemonFC | "So you're saying that a tax system where people with 9)% of the money are only paying 38% of the taxes is unfair? I agree!" | Jun 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | -me, to a teabagger | Jun 19 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | *90 | Jun 19 23:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb So i have made up your panties, son, we're going home." #q | Jun 19 23:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Morreu o ex-presidente do Egipto, Hosni Mubarak | iOnline http://goo.gl/TIJBs | Jun 19 23:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] noite longa no emprego! a primeira de muitas…… | Jun 19 23:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A Dysfunctional Family Ghost Story : Scary Things Lurk Under the Bed in 'Eerie' http://www.ur1.ca/9j7b7 ⇒review by @debbimack | Jun 19 23:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @thistleweb So i have made up your panties, son, we're going home." #q | Jun 19 23:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @unseenstudio: In 2012 the average age of the podcast was 19 fwd4.me/13Ut #Crivins 19 is oot; enjoy #ccmusic #FOSS | Jun 18 19:01 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @johnnynull Investigated #debian bug 661099 and think of lassie barking, or even skippy the kangaroo | Jun 18 19:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Tumblr'd ode to Carnegie Library . . . http://ur1.ca/9iyue !book !books #WPL #wrawesome #library | Jun 18 19:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If it's still meeting in secret, it's news to me.The mailing list was sent a "shut-down" message a considerable time ago & is not relevant. | Jun 18 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] All the same, being worthy to be trolled by both @fontana /and/ @bkuhn has to be some sort of mark of success. | Jun 18 19:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well @kevie :) | Jun 18 19:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Happy birthday Paul (but I haven't been able to listen to that song since learning the Star Trek Filksong "Security"... | Jun 18 19:41 | |
| DaemonFC | parts of Indiana are moving into Severe Drought now | Jun 18 19:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Congratulations! | Jun 18 19:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Fascinating; I've not received such a message and believe the opposite to your prediction. | Jun 18 19:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @webmink All the same, being worthy to be trolled by both @fontana /and/ @bkuhn has to be some sort of mark of success. | Jun 18 20:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] If you'd like one of those t-shirts, I just arranged for all of them to be shipped to OSCON... | Jun 18 20:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Let me know what you receive; I'll be interested to know both what it says and who it's from! | Jun 18 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] #Bahrain is arresting bloggers and preparing to pass new laws muzzling free expression on social networks: https://eff.org/r.a6dp | Jun 18 20:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] That's the spirit! We'll be giving one free to anyone who joins OSI at OSCON. | Jun 18 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] That can be arranged if you want. Or alternatively, if you don't. Both can work. | Jun 18 20:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] <cough> | Jun 18 20:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/234/thevetfatcatatevetnomde.jpg | Jun 18 22:46 |
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| formic_ | grow your beards! | Jun 18 23:32 |
| formic_ | i just had a discovery | Jun 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | can't grow beard | Jun 18 23:33 |
| formic_ | my beard was really long and it started getting itchy so i wanted to shave it off. all of a sudden i want to buy a windows 8 tablet | Jun 18 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | TSA will cavity search me | Jun 18 23:33 |
| formic_ | longer beards = more FLOSS appreciation | Jun 18 23:34 |
| formic_ | short or no beards = proprietary appreciation | Jun 18 23:34 |
| formic_ | look at Steve Jobs vs Richard Stallman | Jun 18 23:34 |
| formic_ | Steve Jobs = no beard | Jun 18 23:34 |
| formic_ | Richsard Stallman = mighty beard | Jun 18 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | I wish there was a way to just make it stop growing forever | Jun 18 23:34 |
| formic_ | you can | Jun 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | shaving it off again every morning is a major pain in the ass | Jun 18 23:35 |
| formic_ | well not YOU | Jun 18 23:35 |
| formic_ | you're too poor | Jun 18 23:35 |
| formic_ | rich guys get that shit lasered so it doesnt grow back | Jun 18 23:35 |
| formic_ | see? no beard and now im an asshole | Jun 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, except that does pore damage | Jun 18 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | and it will grow back again, just not for a while | Jun 18 23:36 |
| formic_ | no laser burns it | Jun 18 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | already looked into it | Jun 18 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyMjM | Jun 18 23:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Fedora 18 Will Preview A New Package Manager .::. Size~: 19.84 KB | Jun 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | ANOTHER ONE? | Jun 18 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | what the hell exactly was wrong with Yum Extender for that matter? | Jun 18 23:39 |
| formic_ | this will replace yum | Jun 18 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | while we're talking about GNOME stupidity | Jun 18 23:40 |
| formic_ | yum has been in use for ages | Jun 18 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want easier access to Google or Microsoft | Jun 18 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I want easier ways to avoid them | Jun 18 23:40 |
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| formic_ | why dont you just get off the internet | Jun 18 23:40 |
| formic_ | that would save the planet you know | Jun 18 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | then where would all the porn come from? | Jun 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | idiot! | Jun 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 18 23:41 |
| formic_ | we dont want your gay porn | Jun 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | yeah you do | Jun 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | you're just afraid you'll like it | Jun 18 23:41 |
| formic_ | you're causing murders in montreal | Jun 18 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | ONE, OK, this makes like ONE TIME that's happened and so everyone is like "ZOMG, HE WAS GAY!!!!" | Jun 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | well, OK, twice | Jun 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | forgot about Dahmer | Jun 18 23:42 |
| DaemonFC | can't forget about Dahmer (or Poland) | Jun 18 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | this shit literally happens every day and the only time you hear about it is when a gay person does it | Jun 18 23:43 |
| formic_ | you know DaemonFC - i wouldnt put it past you | Jun 18 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's like child molesters | Jun 18 23:43 |
| formic_ | whos that politician you hate in Indiana? | Jun 18 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | there's lots of Indiana politicians I hate | Jun 18 23:44 |
| formic_ | whos the idiot who runs the state | Jun 18 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | but if you're talking about one in particular, Mitch Daniels, the Governor | Jun 18 23:44 |
| formic_ | ah yes | Jun 18 23:44 |
| DaemonFC | I even have a Ditch Mitch sticker on my car | Jun 18 23:44 |
| formic_ | I wouldn't put it past you to cut someone up, and jerk yourself off with the limbs. I wouldn't put it past you to mail those body parts to Mitch Daniels. | Jun 18 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | thankfully our Constitution gets rid of them every 8 years to make way for something worse | Jun 18 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | so next year it'll be Mike Pence | Jun 18 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | *sigh* | Jun 18 23:45 |
| formic_ | was that a hate crime? | Jun 18 23:45 |
| DaemonFC | nah, chop Mitch Daniels into pieces and mail them to Bush | Jun 18 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | then chop Bush into pieces and mail them to Rush Limbaugh | Jun 18 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | then chop him up and send him to Ann Coulter | Jun 18 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Jun 18 23:46 |
| DaemonFC | in a cigar box with his oxycodone | Jun 18 23:46 |
| sebsebseb | jono: I expect you'll make a good father :) http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/06/17/my-first-fathers-day/ | Jun 18 23:47 |
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| DaemonFC | it's always the Republicans that make the best scandals | Jun 18 23:47 |
| DaemonFC | they're all up in arms about child molesters, then they get caught molesting children | Jun 18 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | they're all about the war on drugs, then they get caught snorting hillbilly crank | Jun 18 23:48 |
| formic_ | are you stalking jono ? | Jun 18 23:48 |
| formic_ | thats creepy | Jun 18 23:48 |
| formic_ | like the montreal gay porn killer! | Jun 18 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: no saw a dent about it | Jun 18 23:49 |
| sebsebseb | on Identica | Jun 18 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | jono is clearly a natalist pigdog | Jun 18 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 18 23:49 |
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| formic_ | sebsebseb ? | Jun 18 23:50 |
| sebsebseb | formic_: http://identi.ca/notice/94703197 | Jun 18 23:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 18-Jun-12 08:25:24 UTC - Identi.ca: Congrats to @jonobacon who's expecting a baby other than #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/9itmd | Jun 18 23:51 |
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| formic_ | dropbox is EEEEEEVIL, its in the cloud.. | Jun 18 23:51 |
| formic_ | i use gdrive | Jun 18 23:51 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-06/D9VF0OI83.htm | Jun 19 00:07 |
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| jono | sebsebseb, thanks! | Jun 19 00:08 |
| jono | DaemonFC, ahaha | Jun 19 00:08 |
| jono | I want that on a t-shirt | Jun 19 00:08 |
| jono | "Natalist Pigdog" | Jun 19 00:08 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: opera got a new logo | Jun 19 00:13 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: http://imgur.com/vAdJc | Jun 19 00:13 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Is it bounded some way, or an open-ended commitment? | Jun 19 00:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Parody songs. I never thought to look for them before until reminded of "Security" by @stav's link to Paul McCartney singing "Yesterday" | Jun 19 01:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] try not to be too evil, 1111aether :) | Jun 19 01:15 | |
| formic_ | schestowitz - ill write an article on opera, spyware as a service | Jun 19 01:25 |
| formic_ | tomorrow | Jun 19 01:25 |
| MinceR | formic_: i have no beard | Jun 19 01:27 |
| formic_ | then... | Jun 19 01:27 |
| formic_ | you're working for microsoft as a disinfo agent | Jun 19 01:27 |
| formic_ | ask msb_ he knows | Jun 19 01:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Filk songs are much more fun than trying to figure out how to resuscitate my Libreleft Books blog that I seem to have demolished. Tomorrow. | Jun 19 01:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] The Art of Community website has seen some updates - see http://ur1.ca/o8g1 for details #artofcommunity #cls12 | Jun 19 01:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzaf !identiverse | Jun 19 01:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Be sure to get your copy of The Art of Community 2nd Edition - http://is.gd/LoH3U1 #artofcommunity | Jun 19 01:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] @evan like me you qualify as a #Crit. | Jun 19 01:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/metacode/statuses/214857893571346432 http://twitter.com/metacode/statuses/214849983936077826 | Jun 19 02:01 |
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| schestowitz | formic_: cool | Jun 19 02:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] good morning @kevie! !tzag !identiverse! | Jun 19 02:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @mairin visio fans wanting some free software love can open visio files in libreoffice draw and then replace visio with calligra flow | Jun 19 02:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The circle at the left shows whether the car is getting closer (white) or going away (red). The size of the circle is indicative of length. | Jun 19 02:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] BSA Meets GNU/Linux in Europe, Confiscates PCs http://ur1.ca/9j0kp #bsa #microsoft #gnu #linux | Jun 19 02:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus #Torvalds gets a lot of attention (see the # of pages) http://ur1.ca/9j0ku | Jun 19 02:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Bizarre and Dangerous Patents http://ur1.ca/9j0lp #patent #monopoly #uspto #android #swpats | Jun 19 02:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Fails to Convince That UEFI is Tolerable, Uses ‘Security’ as Talking Point http://ur1.ca/9j0py #uefi #redhat | Jun 19 03:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Billions for Indoctrinating Children http://ur1.ca/9j0q2 #billgates #megalomania #us #edreform | Jun 19 03:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @nj3ma @perpetuahsugar Informs me that the @raspberrypi is featured in @safaricomltd's inhouse mag "The Option" #winning | Jun 19 03:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD @suraj "#Android dominating in #China, now accounts for 55.4% of #smartphone's, #iOS is at 12.4% http://goo.gl/NGRra " /cc @RamanusAsango | Jun 19 03:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone know why my OsmAnd POI commits aren't showing on !OSM ? | Jun 19 03:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Entryism at Nokia: Microsoft Takes Over From the Inside With More Moles, Linux-based Platforms Axed http://ur1.ca/9j0ta #linux | Jun 19 03:38 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Izabela krzyż! bit.ly/KPZk7v | Jun 19 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] !BSD crash course. B0rked my system installing !GhostBSD, now it's the only one that will boot! | Jun 19 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fedora 18 Will Preview A New Package Manager http://ur1.ca/9j0uf #fedora #redhat | Jun 19 03:46 | |
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| iophk | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/motorola-buys-psion-for-200m-82951 | Jun 19 03:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The latest talk from Linux founder Linus Torvalds (apart from the now-famous NVIDIA remark) http://ur1.ca/9j0v0 | Jun 19 03:50 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: what for? | Jun 19 03:57 |
| schestowitz | patents maybe? | Jun 19 03:57 |
| iophk | No clue. Probably patents but there is no mention of them in the article. | Jun 19 03:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Okay, Irish #EURO2012 signs just made my day: bit.ly/M9fkEu #MFW bit.ly/M9ffRe | Jun 19 03:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle Triggers Closer Red Hat, SAP Relationship http://ur1.ca/9j0xg #sap usually in bed with #Microsoft and #Novell | Jun 19 04:05 | |
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| iophk | schestowitz: some of the other articles suggest that Motorola is going after ruggedized and vehicle devices. | Jun 19 04:06 |
| iophk | If I understand correctly this is not the part of Motorola that went off to Google. | Jun 19 04:08 |
| schestowitz | it's becoming a crowded space | Jun 19 04:12 |
| schestowitz | many try to automate driving, me included | Jun 19 04:12 |
| schestowitz | but I'm not big corporation, just a research project funded by the European Research Council | Jun 19 04:12 |
| MinceR | if m$ gets into the market, i'll definitely need to get a tank | Jun 19 04:13 |
| schestowitz | Google has some efforts related to it | Jun 19 04:13 |
| schestowitz | Willow Garage also | Jun 19 04:13 |
| schestowitz | And some startups | Jun 19 04:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bulldozer | Jun 19 04:13 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the driver will give it BSOD | Jun 19 04:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Role of a #Linux #Kernel Maintainer http://ur1.ca/9j0zs by post-SUSE Greg K-H | Jun 19 04:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just passed 10k video views in #YouTube http://ur1.ca/9j108 | Jun 19 04:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lumigon T2 coming this summer for about 600 Euros? http://ur1.ca/9j11d #android #linux | Jun 19 04:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Samsung QWERTY Slider With 720p Display Pictured For T-Mobile http://ur1.ca/9j11k physical keyboard needed for tactile http://ur1.ca/9j11l | Jun 19 04:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Android marches on in #China, now accounts for 55.4% of #smartphones, iOS at 12.4% - http://tnw.co/KhjF3W big, important numbers | Jun 19 04:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Meet the IdolPad PLUS, a $98 #Android 4.0 tablet http://ur1.ca/9j125 a *little* cheaper than #hypePad and has more SW features. #linux | Jun 19 04:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Mieczyslaw Weinberg: Chronological Collection on Spotify - http://bit.ly/MCCan9 amazing what's hidden away here | Jun 19 04:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The End of the World: The State vs. the Internet - http://bit.ly/M3cnpX important, thoughtful stuff | Jun 19 04:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Open Source Initiative Gets More Members http://ur1.ca/9j12m #osi #opensource | Jun 19 04:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Dell To Sell Ubuntu PCs At Retail In India http://ur1.ca/9j131 #gnu #linux #india #ubuntu #dell | Jun 19 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] First thoughts on the Finch Report: Good steps but missed opportunities - http://bit.ly/NKtYoi #openaccess continues its march to victory | Jun 19 04:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] As tablet use grows, #Android use on par with #Apple, report says - http://cnet.co/L0lPoA thanks to #kindle - but does that count? | Jun 19 04:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: As tablet use grows, Android use on par with Apple, report says | Mobile - CNET News .::. Size~: 89.25 KB | Jun 19 04:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Reuters misuses the word "hacker" http://ur1.ca/9j13p it means crackers | Jun 19 04:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Business & Financial News, Breaking US & International News | Reuters.com .::. Size~: 15.39 KB | Jun 19 04:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Summary: The latest talk from Linux founder Linus Torvalds (apart from the now-famous NVIDIA remark) Direct URL | Jun 19 04:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Summary: The latest talk from Linux founder Linus Torvalds (apart from the now-famous NVIDIA remark) Direct URL | Jun 19 04:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FSFE to Advance Fair Public IT Procurements in Finland - http://bit.ly/Ndeuqr a slog, but good someone is doing it #opensource | Jun 19 04:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Brussels could 'clash' with London over UK snooper's charter - http://bit.ly/M3dXrM let's hope... | Jun 19 04:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Brussels could 'clash' with London over UK snooper's charter • The Register .::. Size~: 28.42 KB | Jun 19 04:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva begins journey to a new foundation http://ur1.ca/9j15i | Jun 19 04:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mandriva begins journey to a new foundation | ITworld .::. Size~: 121.3 KB | Jun 19 04:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I'm about to ring MEPs on the #INTA committee about important #ACTA vote: why don't you do the same? - http://bit.ly/Moyowf | Jun 19 04:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaked #TPP Proposal Reveals That US Wants To Give Multinational Companies Tremendous Power http://goo.gl/VKGdl | Jun 19 04:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Leaked TPP Proposal Reveals That US Wants To Give Multinational Companies Tremendous Power | Techdirt .::. Size~: 99.49 KB | Jun 19 04:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Disruptive Innovation Is Not An Orderly Process http://goo.gl/TYKh2 | Jun 19 04:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Disruptive Innovation Is Not An Orderly Process | Techdirt .::. Size~: 54.25 KB | Jun 19 04:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft need to sue itself for #trademark abuse over the name #Surface for it's tablet; didn't it check if an existing product was using? | Jun 19 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/watch-plastic-break-bleed-and-heal-itself-20120616/ | Jun 19 05:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Watch plastic break, bleed, and heal itself | Geek.com .::. Size~: 78.6 KB | Jun 19 05:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] !Linux #Kernel Browsing and Hacking using #KDevelop - http://bit.ly/PhN0PY via @linuxfoundation — !KDE | Jun 19 05:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Kernel Browsing and Hacking using KDevelop | The Linux Foundation Video Site .::. Size~: 35.02 KB | Jun 19 05:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Five Best Android Launchers http://ur1.ca/9j18h #android #linux | Jun 19 05:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reaction to the Finch report - http://bit.ly/MoB5Oh @petermurrayrust - “good intentions and missed opportunities”. #openaccess | Jun 19 05:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jrepin #Linux #Kernel Browsing and Hacking using #KDevelop - http://bit.ly/PhN0PY via @linuxfoundation — #KDE | Jun 19 05:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Mozilla Abandoning Open Source #Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. http://ur1.ca/9j19h originally developed in #kde #khtml | Jun 19 05:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Mozilla Abandoning Open Source Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 35.19 KB | Jun 19 05:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux on the desktop, starting in the East: Dell launch with #Ubuntu at retail in #India http://ur1.ca/9j19y | Jun 19 05:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical and Dell announce today that Dell laptops pre-loaded with Ubuntu will be sold in 850 retail outlets in India. | Canonical .::. Size~: 31.85 KB | Jun 19 05:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Taiwanese PC/Tablet manufacturers are complaining that Microsoft wants to charge an enormous $85 licence for Windows" http://ur1.ca/9j1ae | Jun 19 05:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft’s Jim Allchin: “I am Scared [of GNU/Linux]” http://ur1.ca/288rs #linux | Jun 19 05:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Crucial #ACTA Vote: Will #INTA Committee Betray EU Citizens? - http://bit.ly/Lvi5RC your call or email can help make a difference | Jun 19 05:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Do what you love (for a living), vacations will become pointless. If only more people realised happiness precedes money, not the opposite. | Jun 19 05:18 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/94252940#notice-94732652 http://identi.ca/notice/94732652 | Jun 19 05:21 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Mikael (inscius)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 09:16:51 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz well millions of GNUs can cause a stampede ;) | Jun 19 05:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With nearly 50k indexed pages in #techrights the site now serves 1.2-2 million hits a week http://ur1.ca/9j1bp it started as a minor hobby | Jun 19 05:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What #cablegate teaches us about software world (a lot) http://ur1.ca/54iqi #corruption #politics #competition #collusion #blackmail | Jun 19 05:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spanish-speaking articles in #Techrights http://ur1.ca/9j1cp might get a Dutch portal soon... | Jun 19 05:25 | |
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| schestowitz | I posted this video of Linus in #techrights to give people some context. | Jun 19 05:33 |
| iophk | The whole answer is needed to put it in context. It's rather funny though. | Jun 19 05:34 |
| schestowitz | formic_: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726294 | Jun 19 05:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0IUl2UMwt4 'We're being robbed!' 12yo girl exposes Canada banking flaws #news #media #lies #girl #truth #talks | Jun 19 05:35 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] With the new Surface Tablets, Microsoft continues it's "Me Too" approach and for sure will have a lot to explain to it... http://b1t.it/bDJV | Jun 19 05:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - With the new Surface Tablets, Microsoft continues it's "Me… .::. Size~: 148.13 KB | Jun 19 05:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] What I'm struggling most with, in all this Euro bailout nonsense, is, what's in it for Greece? They would so obviously... http://b1t.it/bDJ1 | Jun 19 05:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] New Zealand's High Court Steps Into Extradition Fight Over Kim Dotcom http://ur1.ca/9j1h5 #imperialism #fbi #hollywood #collusion #nz | Jun 19 05:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Social network celebs that complain about G+ are expendable IMHO. Enjoy your Twitter/FB fame. On G+ we actually care a... http://b1t.it/bDJ3 | Jun 19 05:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 09:47:24 UTC - silner .::. Size~: 12.1 KB | Jun 19 05:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Zealand's High Court Steps Into Extradition Fight Over Kim Dotcom | Techdirt .::. Size~: 122.17 KB | Jun 19 05:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Social network celebs that complain about G+ are expendable… .::. Size~: 137.12 KB | Jun 19 05:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes http://ur1.ca/9j1hq good for activists in fascist countries. | Jun 19 05:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 48.71 KB | Jun 19 05:53 |
| schestowitz | "Any information on screen resolution?" http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/v9o84/meet_the_idolpad_plus_a_98_android_40_tablet/ | Jun 19 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Meet the IdolPad PLUS, a $98 Android 4.0 tablet : Android .::. Size~: 48.12 KB | Jun 19 05:53 |
| schestowitz | looks elongated, but maybe standard VGA or WVGA | Jun 19 05:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tmdpw nee hoor | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @StationschefBMO da's al even dat ik niet meer op een normaal uur op m'n werk graak #zucht #stagathe | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @peterdedecker waar kunnen we dat lezen? | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @issuus En als dat webteam niet te huur staat? /cc @iRail #zwartzondersuiker | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @issuus: is op zoek naar het strafste webteam van heel twitter. wie?! RT = koffie in #barburo | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @PaulZH could you send me those? Then I know where I can start and stop ;) | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bvanherreweghe dat donkere gebouw daar hé, dat is ons kantoor ;) #FlatTurtle | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @PaulZH: slides for free Open Data event on 23rd of June 2012, organized by Mumbl (http://t.co/nMPKx http://ur1. ... | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: http://t.co/QQ9SGtfm Seems like I'm not going to reach the office today | Jun 19 05:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / ? .::. Size~: 5.61 KB | Jun 19 05:55 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Trein botst tegen auto op overweg in Sint-Agatha-Berchem - De Standaard .::. Size~: 106.41 KB | Jun 19 05:55 |
| schestowitz | http://parlementum.net/notice/3165109 | Jun 19 05:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Baptist (redbaptist)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 09:46:04 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 11.62 KB | Jun 19 05:56 |
| schestowitz | "Not only them, but also most big news media. It started as a word that evokes cleverness and now it’s known as a “dirty word” in most circles. Tsk. http://parlementum.net/url/1495922" | Jun 19 05:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Not Found - Parlementum .::. Size~: 5.1 KB | Jun 19 05:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@teirdes Militarization of the net creates market in 0-days, encouraging developers to create bugs, reducing security overall. #dcif | Jun 19 05:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers http://ur1.ca/9j1j0 #gnu #linux #hpc #server #ibm | Jun 19 05:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.23 KB | Jun 19 05:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wine 1.4 matures with first point update http://ur1.ca/9j1jg helps gamers http://ur1.ca/9j1jh #unix #linux | Jun 19 06:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wine 1.4 matures with first point update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.35 KB | Jun 19 06:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UGP (Ubuntu Gaming Project): Wine 1.4.1 released .::. Size~: 98.13 KB | Jun 19 06:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9j1ka obigatoy angry Linus http://ur1.ca/9j1kb | Jun 19 06:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.61 KB | Jun 19 06:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My favourite internet protocol? finger - Angry Linus | Meme Generator .::. Size~: 42.29 KB | Jun 19 06:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9j1ka obigatoy angry Linus http://ur1.ca/9j1kb | Jun 19 06:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Wine 1.4 matures with first point update http://ur1.ca/9j1jg helps gamers http://ur1.ca/9j1jh #unix #linux | Jun 19 06:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @schestowitz #Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes http://ur1.ca/9j1hq good for activists in fascist countries. | Jun 19 06:11 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Kernel 3.4.3 Is Available for Download - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.65 KB | Jun 19 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: My favourite internet protocol? finger - Angry Linus | Meme Generator .::. Size~: 42.29 KB | Jun 19 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wine 1.4 matures with first point update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.35 KB | Jun 19 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UGP (Ubuntu Gaming Project): Wine 1.4.1 released .::. Size~: 98.13 KB | Jun 19 06:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tails 0.12 blends in better in internet cafes - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 48.76 KB | Jun 19 06:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Google buys wireless efficiency patents – hopefully headed to !Android http://ping.fm/pN9tK | Jun 19 06:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] What makes G+ different is (IMHO, mind you) that it is not the follower count that makes you important, it's the inter... http://b1t.it/bDKO | Jun 19 06:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google buys wireless efficiency patents – hopefully headed to Android | Android Community .::. Size~: 42.65 KB | Jun 19 06:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - What makes G+ different is (IMHO, mind you) that it is not… .::. Size~: 136.06 KB | Jun 19 06:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is !Mozilla Abandoning Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. - InternetNews. http://goo.gl/e7Tfc | Jun 19 06:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Mozilla Abandoning Open Source Gecko for Apple iPad? WebKit Wins. - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 35.19 KB | Jun 19 06:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers http://ping.fm/LfG82 | Jun 19 06:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] The Time Is Right For Desktop !Linux http://ping.fm/q6lU8 | Jun 19 06:20 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux continues to dominate list of top 500 supercomputers - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.32 KB | Jun 19 06:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 84.29 KB | Jun 19 06:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Current HN page has 1 (one!) entry on MSFT Surface and that entry so far atrracted 1 (one!) single comment. Tells you ... http://b1t.it/bDKU | Jun 19 06:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Current HN page has 1 (one!) entry on MSFT Surface and that… .::. Size~: 149.91 KB | Jun 19 06:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Dear @laquadrature @jerezim @teirdes can you confirm in any way if people are calling and mailing the MEPs? do we have any stats available? | Jun 19 06:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Is Baidu about to enter the browser wars? - Memeburn http://ping.fm/fCrXt | Jun 19 06:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Is Baidu about to enter the browser wars? | memeburn .::. Size~: 75.19 KB | Jun 19 06:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Due to #crapple's walled garden we're getting rendering engine monoculture bit.ly/MrbXUJ That worked great for IE. !webdev !css | Jun 19 06:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Richard Stallman talking in the #UK http://ur1.ca/9j1q9 #gnu #fsf | Jun 19 06:36 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Richard Stallman talking in the UK - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.33 KB | Jun 19 06:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux http://ur1.ca/9j1rz #gnu #linux | Jun 19 06:46 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 84.29 KB | Jun 19 06:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726347 | Jun 19 06:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Wine 1.4 matures with first point update http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Wine-1-4-matures-with-first-point-update-1619813.html helps gamers http://ubuntugamingproject.blogspot.it/2012/06/wine-141-released.html #unix #linux | Jun 19 06:49 |
| schestowitz | "hey! Thank you for sharing my blog! (Ubuntu Gaming Project) ^_^ I appreciated it! | Jun 19 06:49 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 19 06:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Wine 1.4 matures with first point update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.3 KB | Jun 19 06:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: UGP (Ubuntu Gaming Project): Wine 1.4.1 released .::. Size~: 98.13 KB | Jun 19 06:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | "hey! Thank you for sharing my blog! (Ubuntu Gaming Project) ^_^ I appreciated it! | Jun 19 06:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | :-) | Jun 19 06:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726153 | Jun 19 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Reuters misuses the word "hacker" http://www.reuters.com/assets/print?aid=USBRE85G07S20120617 it means crackers | Jun 19 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Business & Financial News, Breaking US & International News | Reuters.com .::. Size~: 15.39 KB | Jun 19 06:54 |
| schestowitz | That's something that has been completely taken over now. Journalists! Commentators on all scenarios. Experts in none. | Jun 19 06:54 |
| schestowitz | http://catb.org/jargon/html/appendixc.html | Jun 19 06:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Appendix C. Helping Hacker Culture Grow .::. Size~: 6.64 KB | Jun 19 06:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 06:54 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Why didn't Poland leave the group at #Euro2012? We're the hosts, and host should never leave while the party is going. | Jun 19 06:55 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726286 | Jun 19 06:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Atheists chant at Muslim protesters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCfwcd_Ajg4 I love this video :-) #religion #atheism #muslim #fun | Jun 19 06:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Atheists chant at Muslim protesters - 2012 Atheist Convention - YouTube .::. Size~: 154.56 KB | Jun 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | I've never felt so threatened by a religious faction to the point where I felt I had to go out and chant at them. | Jun 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | Let it be! | Jun 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 19 06:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Copyright must foster innovation, not just protect a right http://ur1.ca/9j1tx it's not even a right. Ideas are not property. | Jun 19 06:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Against Monopoly .::. Size~: 33.95 KB | Jun 19 06:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dell #Ubuntu success in #India hits mainstream http://ur1.ca/9j1ul http://ur1.ca/9j1um http://ur1.ca/9j1un http://ur1.ca/9j1uo | Jun 19 07:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu Developers Solicit ‘Lightweight Apps’ http://ur1.ca/9j1v4 #ubuntu #linux #gnu | Jun 19 07:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India .::. Size~: 54.84 KB | Jun 19 07:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell Launch With Ubuntu at Retail in India - Legit Reviews .::. Size~: 19.86 KB | Jun 19 07:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India: NDTV Gadgets .::. Size~: 42.71 KB | Jun 19 07:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical’s retail expansion in India with Dell .::. Size~: 24.86 KB | Jun 19 07:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Developers Solicit 'Lightweight Apps' | The VAR Guy .::. Size~: 71.43 KB | Jun 19 07:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94735178 | Jun 19 07:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @vinzv (vinzv)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-12 13:13:06 CEST - v.status: @schestowitz And none of these four articles mentiones the word "Linux". Seems like Canonical's marketing strategy works. :( | Jun 19 07:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Yasir Al-Musawi http://ur1.ca/9j1yo | Jun 19 07:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ .::. Size~: 146.9 KB | Jun 19 07:23 |
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| schestowitz | "Please post the follow-up he promises for Wednesday once it's up. Don't want to miss that!" | Jun 19 07:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726445 | Jun 19 07:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux http://fossforce.com/2012/06/the-time-is-right-for-desktop-linux/ #gnu #linux | Jun 19 07:51 |
| schestowitz | will do | Jun 19 07:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: The Time Is Right For Desktop Linux « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 85.76 KB | Jun 19 07:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Wuthering Moors 19 – what is Defra hiding? - http://bit.ly/PiZQgM #defra behaving badly (v @GeorgeMonbiot) #foi | Jun 19 07:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wuthering Moors 19 - what is Defra hiding? - Mark AveryMark Avery .::. Size~: 26.19 KB | Jun 19 07:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726486 | Jun 19 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Dell #Ubuntu success in #India hits mainstream http://zeenews.india.com/business/gadgets/gadgets-news/dell-to-sell-pc-built-on-free-operating-system-ubuntu-in-india_53957.html http://www.legitreviews.com/news/13427/ http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/dell-to-sell-pc-built-on-free-operating-system-ubuntu-in-india-233245 http://www.expresscomputeronline.com/index.php/sections/news/655-canonical-s-retail-expansio | Jun 19 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India .::. Size~: 58.51 KB | Jun 19 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Dell Launch With Ubuntu at Retail in India - Legit Reviews .::. Size~: 19.75 KB | Jun 19 07:52 |
| schestowitz | "We'll see how long that lasts since mini9 laptops used to be shipped with Ubuntu at their time of release, now the new ones are all windows based." | Jun 19 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Dell to sell PC built on free operating system Ubuntu in India: NDTV Gadgets .::. Size~: 42.71 KB | Jun 19 07:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Canonical’s retail expansion in India with Dell .::. Size~: 24.86 KB | Jun 19 07:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Alma Swan's fab response to #dailymail #openaccess #FUD - http://bit.ly/NdN7N4 spot on (v @petersuber) | Jun 19 07:55 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: SPARC Europe’s response to the inaccuracies in the article by the Daily Mail’s City Editor on 18 June « SPARC in Europe .::. Size~: 39.71 KB | Jun 19 07:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Another April Fools joke becoming reality. Microsoft germany last year: http://www.microsoft.com/germany/newsroom/pre... http://b1t.it/bDML | Jun 19 07:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found. .::. Size~: 73.95 KB | Jun 19 07:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Another April Fools joke becoming reality. Microsoft… .::. Size~: 133.33 KB | Jun 19 07:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Threatens To Sue Huge YouTube MP3 Conversion Site - http://bit.ly/LZs0wg not so clever, O Google PhDs: you're creating a precedent | Jun 19 08:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Google Threatens To Sue Huge YouTube MP3 Conversion Site | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 28.17 KB | Jun 19 08:00 |
| formic_ | I'm not sure why google wouldn't threaten an mp3 conversion site | Jun 19 08:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help us win another crucial #ACTA vote: call your MEP! - http://bit.ly/MrxdtB great summary of issues, plus numbers to call #INTA | Jun 19 08:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Help us win another crucial ACTA vote: call your MEP! | Open Rights Group .::. Size~: 22.77 KB | Jun 19 08:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #PT: O sr Ministro da saúde é mentiroso! Tendo uma doença crónica ñ estou isento do pagamento de taxas relativas à minha doença! #FAIL | Jun 19 08:10 | |
| schestowitz | formic_: it's justa format | Jun 19 08:16 |
| schestowitz | formic_: you can convert the raw videos to mp3 anyway | Jun 19 08:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] breach of ToS, I think... | Jun 19 08:16 | |
| schestowitz | it's not hard to download the files, via browse | Jun 19 08:16 |
| schestowitz | even mass-convert | Jun 19 08:17 |
| schestowitz | for file in *.avi; do `nice mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile ${file}.mp3 ${file}`; done | Jun 19 08:17 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 19 08:17 |
| schestowitz | not sure why a site would be needed | Jun 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz | or a lawsuit | Jun 19 08:18 |
| schestowitz | you could write a simple CLI program that just takes youtube URL, fetches the SWF linked, gets the AVI/MOV is linked to, then calls mplayer and makes an mp3/ogg out of it | Jun 19 08:19 |
| schestowitz | ncurses for user-friendliness | Jun 19 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Then, the party enabling so-called 'piracy' is Google | Jun 19 08:19 |
| schestowitz | They are let alone as long as they have link cruft and ads to places where people can buy (download/license) the tracks | Jun 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz | So it's OK for them as long as it's streamed | Jun 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz | ie.e. spied on | Jun 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz | and used as a promotion tool, i.e. advertising | Jun 19 08:20 |
| schestowitz | It's a bit like recreational drug use vs medical drug use | Jun 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz | all about context | Jun 19 08:21 |
| MinceR | it's flv and some mpeg thing though | Jun 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Facebook harvests personal data = GREAT | Jun 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks harvests public (government) data = TERROR/CRIME | Jun 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz | if it makes money, it'\s OK | Jun 19 08:21 |
| schestowitz | As long as it's possible to control and police | Jun 19 08:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The affordable African smartphone battle begins: Samsung’s Galaxy Pocket vs Huawei’s Ideos X1 - http://tnw.co/NdTYWL another crucial market | Jun 19 08:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Affordable African Smartphone Battle Begins .::. Size~: 112.24 KB | Jun 19 08:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] taaten forsten 18 Millionen Hektar Wald auf - http://bit.ly/Pjjppb good news for a change #trees | Jun 19 08:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Wald: Staaten einigen sich auf Wiederaufforstung - SPIEGEL ONLINE .::. Size~: 59.37 KB | Jun 19 08:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] http://ur1.ca/9j2bx - important, Please read. #A... http://b1t.it/bDNm | Jun 19 08:33 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Crucial ACTA Vote: Will INTA Committee Betray EU Citizens? | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 30.99 KB | Jun 19 08:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - https://www.laquadrature.net/en/crucial-acta-vote-will-inta… .::. Size~: 138.09 KB | Jun 19 08:33 |
| formic_ | http://youtu.be/lLS4PJwtYEY <--- recycle bin looter | Jun 19 08:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hamilton ON - bum stealing recycles - YouTube .::. Size~: 82.44 KB | Jun 19 08:43 |
| formic_ | lulz | Jun 19 08:43 |
| schestowitz | steal? | Jun 19 08:45 |
| schestowitz | or recycle? | Jun 19 08:45 |
| schestowitz | The question is, do they loot recycle bins? | Jun 19 08:45 |
| schestowitz | Or take what would otherwise not be recycled? | Jun 19 08:45 |
| schestowitz | If the latter, then it's a valuable service | Jun 19 08:45 |
| schestowitz | it's actually a good case of taxing bottles so as to create incentive to return them for recycling, even if not by the buyers themselves | Jun 19 08:46 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New #Android Malware is Disguised as a Security App http://goo.gl/VafON | Jun 19 08:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The quality of open source code increases adoption http://goo.gl/CaSmF | Jun 19 08:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Android Malware is Disguised as a Security App | PCWorld .::. Size~: 84.18 KB | Jun 19 08:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The quality of open source code increases adoption | opensource.com .::. Size~: 55.88 KB | Jun 19 08:48 |
| formic_ | yeah they loot recycle bins | Jun 19 08:52 |
| formic_ | i dont know what the valuable service is, they would go to the government if someone didnt loot them | Jun 19 08:53 |
| formic_ | they dont share a cut of the profit at all | Jun 19 08:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Matthew Inman To Charles Carreon: Take Time Off, Stop Saying Crazy Sh*t To Journalists, Calm Down http://goo.gl/SSydE | Jun 19 08:53 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Matthew Inman To Charles Carreon: Take Time Off, Stop Saying Crazy Sh*t To Journalists, Calm Down | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.24 KB | Jun 19 08:53 |
| schestowitz | http://memegenerator.net/instance/22122719?urlName=Angry-Linus&browsingOrder=New&browsingTimeSpan=AllTime | Jun 19 08:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: my name is linus and I aproove of this message - Angry Linus | Meme Generator .::. Size~: 42.33 KB | Jun 19 08:53 |
| formic_ | the reason i find it amusing is, that in canada its seen as the same thing as 'garbage picking' | Jun 19 08:53 |
| schestowitz | welcome to NWO.. | Jun 19 08:54 |
| formic_ | my neighbor goes around every garbage day looking for stuff to clean up and sell | Jun 19 08:54 |
| schestowitz | it would be nice if I was paid for the garbage recycling I do | Jun 19 08:54 |
| schestowitz | It's involving a lot of labour | Jun 19 08:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726300 | Jun 19 08:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: <h3>Speaking of Monsanto .. Just had to share ;-D*</h3> #thankyoumonsanto #gmo #frankenfoods | Jun 19 08:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by thewebdiva@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_878bd011687f0dd27ee9.jpg | Jun 19 08:54 |
| schestowitz | "A little 'hitchikers' moment." | Jun 19 08:54 |
| formic_ | i agree | Jun 19 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Some company is getting my labour for free | Jun 19 08:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA info: I was just told that Syed Kamall is "leading" on Thursday's #ACTA vote for ECR party, so he is the key man here... | Jun 19 08:55 | |
| formic_ | they want us to sort our recyclables too, but im not doing that for free | Jun 19 08:55 |
| schestowitz | I peel off labels and stuff | Jun 19 08:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726137 | Jun 19 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet the IdolPad PLUS, a $98 #Android 4.0 tablet http://www.androidguys.com/2012/06/18/meet-the-idolpad-plus-a-98-android-4-0-tablet/ a *little* cheaper than #hypePad and has more SW features. #linux | Jun 19 08:55 |
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| schestowitz | "Ebuyer.com have been doing a 7" tablet with ICS for £80 for a few weeks now. Spec is about the same as an HTC desire, i.e. a lot better than a typical £80 tablet, and actually usable." | Jun 19 08:55 |
| formic_ | same with sidewalk snow removal | Jun 19 08:55 |
| formic_ | its a law to shovel your sidewalk, but you cant get rid of the sidewalk. however they never said you have to do it for free. | Jun 19 08:56 |
| formic_ | thanks to global warming, i didnt have to bill the city this year | Jun 19 08:56 |
| formic_ | i think i have a good arguement for billing because they occasionally do pay people to clear sidewalks | Jun 19 08:57 |
| formic_ | equal rights man | Jun 19 08:57 |
| schestowitz | it's not all about money | Jun 19 08:58 |
| schestowitz | if you charged for everything that takes your time, society would cease to function | Jun 19 08:58 |
| formic_ | if they pay city people to do it they should pay me | Jun 19 09:01 |
| formic_ | why should i do the job for free while someone else gets paid + benefits | Jun 19 09:02 |
| formic_ | its cost cutting, nothing else | Jun 19 09:02 |
| formic_ | free labour, which is illegal | Jun 19 09:02 |
| Omega | lol it's not illegal | Jun 19 09:04 |
| Omega | it's highly encouraged to steal labour from people | Jun 19 09:04 |
| Omega | it's what capitalism si | Jun 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz | steal? No.. | Jun 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz | You give them debt | Jun 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz | as a 'gift' | Jun 19 09:04 |
| Omega | profit is stolen surplus value | Jun 19 09:04 |
| schestowitz | and then you lower their value | Jun 19 09:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Windows Vista 8" http://ur1.ca/9j2hs #lol #vista8 thumbs up to @SJVN | Jun 19 09:05 | |
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| schestowitz | and devalue their labour worth, you try to get as many as possible working for below the worth/cost | Jun 19 09:05 |
| schestowitz | and then you sell above cost | Jun 19 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Like Nike does in east Asia | Jun 19 09:05 |
| schestowitz | THAT's capitalism | Jun 19 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Turning people's lives (sad lives) into cash | Jun 19 09:05 |
| schestowitz | The turf war is trying to consume more people's lives for the glory of one's own corporation | Jun 19 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Nothing unethical about it... /SARCASM | Jun 19 09:06 |
| schestowitz | we in the West are supposed to love capitalism | Jun 19 09:06 |
| iophk | The hyped tablet with Vista8 does not ship yet, it's also likely to have dreadful battery life. Also, ARM is probably going to have locked bootloaders preventing the installation of a useful OS like Android. | Jun 19 09:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] Hopefully over by mid-July? Was looking forward to some discussions in Portland... | Jun 19 09:06 | |
| schestowitz | Cause it's mostly done at the expense of non-Western... MOSTLY | Jun 19 09:06 |
| iophk | http://www.bgr.com/2012/03/09/arm-devices-running-windows-8-will-have-locked-bootloaders/ | Jun 19 09:06 |
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| schestowitz | So we carpet-bomb non-Western for standing up against capi... I mean, DEMOCRACY | Jun 19 09:07 |
| formic_ | 09:04 < Omega> lol it's not illegal | Jun 19 09:07 |
| formic_ | in Canada its illegal not to pay someone minimum wage for labour | Jun 19 09:07 |
| schestowitz | what labour? | Jun 19 09:07 |
| schestowitz | babysitting? | Jun 19 09:08 |
| schestowitz | what if the person is a child? | Jun 19 09:08 |
| schestowitz | Or consenting to doing a task? | Jun 19 09:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Alan McConnell http://ur1.ca/9j2ik | Jun 19 09:08 | |
| Omega | walking around in my neighbourhood and looking around is labour | Jun 19 09:08 |
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| MinceR | also, the vista8 tablet won't have any applications and will only offer ie as the "browser" | Jun 19 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Many employers pay people to take a poo | Jun 19 09:09 |
| schestowitz | on working hours.. | Jun 19 09:09 |
| formic_ | 09:07 < schestowitz> what labour? | Jun 19 09:09 |
| formic_ | shoveling the sidewalk | Jun 19 09:09 |
| schestowitz | ask the municipality to do the service | Jun 19 09:09 |
| schestowitz | and also fixing holes in the road | Jun 19 09:10 |
| formic_ | they passed a law requiring I do it | Jun 19 09:10 |
| schestowitz | they can discriminatingly do this, ignoring some who pay city council tax | Jun 19 09:10 |
| formic_ | meanwhile they still pay city employees to do it occassionally | Jun 19 09:10 |
| Omega | if it's the law how can it be illegal | Jun 19 09:10 |
| schestowitz | based on nepotism | Jun 19 09:10 |
| formic_ | because the shoveling law doesnt say you're required to do it for free | Jun 19 09:10 |
| formic_ | it just says you have to | Jun 19 09:10 |
| formic_ | so its forced employment in my eyes | Jun 19 09:10 |
| formic_ | the sidewalk is city property unless there is snow on it (apparently) | Jun 19 09:11 |
| Omega | lol my point is, you don't need to rely on it being legal or not to argue your case | Jun 19 09:12 |
| formic_ | but i digress, the gov't can do whatever it wants even if its illegal | Jun 19 09:12 |
| formic_ | omega - it violates labour laws by not paying me | Jun 19 09:12 |
| formic_ | nobody has ever tried to do it | Jun 19 09:14 |
| formic_ | but i think i would win | Jun 19 09:14 |
| Omega | you can't win, they make the laws | Jun 19 09:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SourceForge back-end code to be donated to Apache http://ur1.ca/9j2ki #opensource | Jun 19 09:15 | |
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| formic_ | it wont stop me from fighting | Jun 19 09:15 |
| formic_ | i may have shaved my beard but ill still fight for freedom | Jun 19 09:15 |
| schestowitz | beard? | Jun 19 09:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Making public procurement exciting: FSFE launches project in Finland to fix the public sector http://ur1.ca/9j2lz !fsfe | Jun 19 09:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] forgot to include the #Bugcast links & Dave & Caroline's microblog stuff in the #Crivins shownotes for ep 19, now sorted | Jun 19 09:28 | |
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| formic_ | yeah | Jun 19 09:29 |
| formic_ | hangs off your chin | Jun 19 09:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cats after anesthesia http://ur1.ca/9j2mr #lol | Jun 19 09:30 | |
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| formic_ | oh you missed my joke yesterday | Jun 19 09:34 |
| formic_ | beards = freedom advocacy | Jun 19 09:34 |
| iophk | http://www.improb.com/airchives/classical/cat/cat.html | Jun 19 09:36 |
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| iophk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/jun/08/research.highereducation | Jun 19 09:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] important: SOS EU open access to scientific publications - http://bit.ly/MKlAOR another fightback against #openaccess - contact MEPs pl. | Jun 19 09:38 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1726797 | Jun 19 09:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cats after anesthesia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beWo2Ic3cbQ #lol | Jun 19 09:39 |
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| schestowitz | "So cute ! :)" | Jun 19 09:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 19/6/2012: Mandriva Linux 2012 Tech Preview, Linus’ Remarks, Dell Helps Ubuntu, Wine 1.4.1 Released http://ur1.ca/9j2pc #techrights | Jun 19 09:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] WRT Amazon EC2 Outage: "Consider building towards a vendor-neutral architectureWe’re big fans of AWS. But today rais... http://b1t.it/bDPp | Jun 19 09:43 | |
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| formic_ | schestowitz - my comment earlier about the youtube mp3 ripper | Jun 19 09:43 |
| formic_ | schestowitz - google has deals with music companies to make sure the stuff can't be copied | Jun 19 09:44 |
| formic_ | thats why im not surprised they are enforcing it | Jun 19 09:44 |
| formic_ | meanwhile the rest of us can just use videodownloader :) | Jun 19 09:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] RT @schestowitz "Windows Vista 8" http://ur1.ca/9j2hs #lol #vista8 thumbs up to @SJVN | Jun 19 09:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @karsten Making public procurement exciting: FSFE launches project in Finland to fix the public sector http://ur1.ca/9j2lz !fsfe | Jun 19 09:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Statement on #TPP Parties Invite Mexico to Join Negotiations - http://bit.ly/KQJJ7O "will make the negotiation of IP chapter much harder." | Jun 19 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I would define this as #compilerporn - http://blog.regehr.org/archives/482 http://ur1.ca/9j2rs | Jun 19 09:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #vista8 self-nukes [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9j2up | Jun 19 10:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Prettify Your Server with h5ai http://ur1.ca/9j2vc very nice.. | Jun 19 10:13 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 10:13 |
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| MinceR | finally i know what the vista8 logo means | Jun 19 10:13 |
| schestowitz | LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=FFr8O0Ulocc&NR=1 | Jun 19 10:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEU3zuOvGo&feature=related | Jun 19 10:16 |
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| Omega | formic_: lol, have you joined the students on the streets yet? | Jun 19 10:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Oh, now that is a surprise. Suddenly rumours about WMD in Syria. How like totally new that sounds. Never happened before. ;-) | Jun 19 10:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crucial ACTA Vote: Will INTA Committee Betray EU Citizens? http://ur1.ca/9j14t #acta | Jun 19 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @jwildeboer Oh, now that is a surprise. Suddenly rumours about WMD in Syria. How like totally new that sounds. Never happened before. ;-) | Jun 19 10:20 | |
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| schestowitz | maybe they found a box of big vibrators in Syria | Jun 19 10:21 |
| schestowitz | And the pussies in the West got all nervous | Jun 19 10:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] "Katholische Schulen ketten sich an Microsoft" http://ur1.ca/9j2xn | Jun 19 10:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA Just spoke with Robert Sturdy's assistant: clear that ECR MEPs will be voting for delay; #ACTA is good basis for future, good signal | Jun 19 10:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Portugal fez chegar à #Google 523 pedidos de informação sobre contas de internautas - JNo http://goo.gl/HMcrZ #pt #privacy | Jun 19 10:31 | |
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| formic_ | omega - what students? | Jun 19 10:39 |
| formic_ | omega - quebec? | Jun 19 10:39 |
| formic_ | omega - if you're talking about quebec, im not on their side | Jun 19 10:39 |
| formic_ | quebec gets more tax dollars from the federal government under 'equalization', and the quebec government uses that money to subsidize education and provide freebies for immigrants | Jun 19 10:40 |
| formic_ | they have cheaper education than the rest of the country | Jun 19 10:40 |
| formic_ | im not shedding any tears | Jun 19 10:40 |
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| iophk | From what I gather, Quebec imports people who then move out as soon as they've learned enough English to get by in the rest of Canada. | Jun 19 10:43 |
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| formic_ | iophk: yeah they have massive immigration because I suspect the more people they brainwash the easier it is to seperate | Jun 19 10:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: How can #ICT make cities smarter, deliver for the environment, health, quality of life? http://p.ost.im/p/ecBWJd | Jun 19 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: EU mobile data doubles every yr -- 3 trn MB/mth by 2016. Must bring down barriers to tha http://p.ost.im/p/ecy2MB | Jun 19 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: On 700mHz spectrum, if we haven't done our homework to ensure enough spectrum – citize http://p.ost.im/p/ecdEDu | Jun 19 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@sheila97: BBC News - In pictures: Life on Kenya's Dandora dump near Nairobi http://t.co/Uj4jBrgQ" | Jun 19 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Dashboard Confessional - Saints and Sailors. An all time fave! | Jun 19 10:45 | |
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| iophk | The economy is not big enough to support a separated Quebec. It'd just be two poor, small countries instead of the single, well-off medium-sized one. | Jun 19 10:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 12 Linux Chown Command Examples to Change Owner and Group http://goo.gl/yZIal #gnulinux #tips | Jun 19 10:46 | |
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| formic_ | plus, they couldnt steal money from the rest of us | Jun 19 10:48 |
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| iophk | It's heavily subsidized, I gather? | Jun 19 10:49 |
| Omega | lol, so much for "fighting for freedom" | Jun 19 10:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Chossudovsky: US-Sponsored Gangs Committed #Houla Massacre - YouTube http://goo.gl/zEiVN #usa #nato #stateterrorism | #gladio | Jun 19 10:50 | |
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| Omega | lol "freebies for immigrants" | Jun 19 10:50 |
| MinceR | i thought canada was huge :> | Jun 19 10:50 |
| Omega | I doubt you're a native-american, in which case you're a immigrant too | Jun 19 10:50 |
| Omega | an* | Jun 19 10:50 |
| formic_ | nope | Jun 19 10:51 |
| formic_ | i was born here | Jun 19 10:51 |
| Omega | your family migrated there | Jun 19 10:51 |
| Omega | just like these "immigrants" are | Jun 19 10:51 |
| Omega | yet your family did it by killing off the people that lived there | Jun 19 10:51 |
| schestowitz | [15:43] <iophk> From what I gather, Quebec imports people who then move out as soon as they've learned enough English to get by in the rest of Canada. | Jun 19 10:51 |
| schestowitz | any URL? | Jun 19 10:52 |
| Omega | which they benefited greatly from | Jun 19 10:52 |
| Omega | and you complain that THESE people get freebies? | Jun 19 10:52 |
| iophk | No URL. | Jun 19 10:52 |
| schestowitz | sheesh.. hypocrisy hurts | Jun 19 10:52 |
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| cubezzz | a lot of natives don't like the term native-american | Jun 19 10:53 |
| schestowitz | First people | Jun 19 10:53 |
| cubezzz | besides, it's completely usa-centric | Jun 19 10:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Last Language Textbook - http://bit.ly/Mmtce7 "completely free collection of language lessons that can serve as a textbook replacement" | Jun 19 10:53 | |
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| Omega | indigenous people | Jun 19 10:53 |
| cubezzz | better :) | Jun 19 10:53 |
| schestowitz | better than "Indian" | Jun 19 10:54 |
| cubezzz | quite :) | Jun 19 10:54 |
| Omega | cubezzz: I used native-american in the non-usacentric way (formic_ is in canada) | Jun 19 10:55 |
| cubezzz | Omega, some indigenous peoples are OK with the term, some aren't | Jun 19 10:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: i don't see that as USA-centric terminology. | Jun 19 10:55 |
| qu1j0t3 | weird that some ppl do (esp Canadians) | Jun 19 10:55 |
| cubezzz | just like some Inuit prefer Eskimo and some prefer Inuit | Jun 19 10:56 |
| Omega | and "the rest of the country pays more for education, so they should be just as screwed as us! I won't help them! | Jun 19 10:56 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, the term is only used in the USA | Jun 19 10:56 |
| Omega | and then you expect to get support for something as petty as having to remove snow from your sidewalk? | Jun 19 10:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | yeah, i find that odd, but okay :) | Jun 19 10:56 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, In Canada some of the time we say First Nations | Jun 19 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Intel Chips Prone to Hacks - 64-bit OSs Deemed Vulnerable | HOTforSecurity http://goo.gl/xv79A #security (ms-win7/2008R2 + freebsd+netbsd) | Jun 19 10:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The case for mandatory GMO labeling - even if you believe in limited government and the free market http://goo.gl/HFr03 #gmo #usa | Jun 19 10:56 | |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: yes | Jun 19 10:56 |
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| cubezzz | it's not perfect but hey :) | Jun 19 10:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: i just spent the last week helping my wife write an essay on a First Nations question | Jun 19 10:57 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, oh interesting | Jun 19 10:57 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Néanmoins, dans un case comme dans l'autre, vous êtes un amoureux de l'#impureté. Alors, c'est #inquiétant! | Jun 19 10:58 | |
| Omega | and this mentality is SO short sighted too | Jun 19 10:58 |
| cubezzz | I'm an immigrant too | Jun 19 10:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: there aren't many left who aren't ;-) | Jun 19 10:59 |
| cubezzz | came over to Canada in 1967, didn't kill any natives though :) | Jun 19 10:59 |
| cubezzz | I did sell a native a computer tax free though :) | Jun 19 10:59 |
| Omega | "they resisted the negative change better than us, now we want them to be as screwed us!" instead of showing solidarity with their struggle and you joining it so you all benefit | Jun 19 11:00 |
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| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, I came over before McDonalds did :) | Jun 19 11:00 |
| formic_ | 10:51 < Omega> your family migrated there | Jun 19 11:00 |
| Omega | you expect solidarity but lend it to no-one | Jun 19 11:00 |
| formic_ | all the family i'm aware of migrated from the US or England | Jun 19 11:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: :) back when being Canadian meant something IOW :) | Jun 19 11:00 |
| formic_ | both countries won all the wars to claim the territory | Jun 19 11:00 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 11:00 |
| Omega | you mean mass ethnocide? | Jun 19 11:01 |
| formic_ | war sucks, but thats my claim to this land | Jun 19 11:01 |
| cubezzz | qu1j0t3, the openbsd guy is Canadian too, we have a history of FOSS that I didn't even know about | Jun 19 11:01 |
| Omega | what :| | Jun 19 11:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Interesting article by Schneier: "The Vulnerabilities Market and the Future of #Security" http://ur1.ca/9gfb1 | Jun 19 11:01 | |
| cubezzz | Vector Linux was started by Canadians | Jun 19 11:01 |
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| Omega | formic_: these are PEOPLE you are talking about | Jun 19 11:01 |
| formic_ | plus I was born here, that doesnt make me an immigrant | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | not mere numbers in a history book | Jun 19 11:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | cubezzz: I've met Theo. In Calgary. | Jun 19 11:02 |
| formic_ | there is no situation where I will EVER be considered an immigrant | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | people were killed by other people | Jun 19 11:02 |
| formic_ | so? | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | just because they happened to live someone peacefully | Jun 19 11:02 |
| formic_ | wars are how you dispute territory | Jun 19 11:02 |
| formic_ | people die, thats part of war | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | you say that as if it's a fact | Jun 19 11:02 |
| formic_ | it is a fact | Jun 19 11:02 |
| formic_ | read history books | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | no | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 11:02 |
| Omega | this isn't worth my time | Jun 19 11:03 |
| formic_ | find me some land disputes that didn't result in war or have war involved | Jun 19 11:03 |
| formic_ | look at israel | Jun 19 11:03 |
| Omega | this wasn't a "dispute" | Jun 19 11:03 |
| formic_ | sure it was | Jun 19 11:03 |
| Omega | the europeans came and killed everyone | Jun 19 11:03 |
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| formic_ | i dont condone what they did but im not going to give up land or give apologies to people who weren't involved | Jun 19 11:04 |
| Omega | Is this person really try to call colonialism as merely a 'dispute' that was won by the europeans? | Jun 19 11:04 |
| Omega | I'm really not in the mood to argue with ethnocide apologists | Jun 19 11:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not ethnocide when the other side tastes like pork. | Jun 19 11:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just dinnertime. | Jun 19 11:05 |
| qu1j0t3 | tru | Jun 19 11:05 |
| Omega | uh, I don't kill things if I don't have to | Jun 19 11:05 |
| Omega | I prefer not to harm animals | Jun 19 11:05 |
| Omega | (and not support things which do ahrm animals unneccesarily) | Jun 19 11:06 |
| Omega | the whole "someone was born in another geographial region so they are not welcome here" thing is not thought out (d'oh) | Jun 19 11:09 |
| formic_ | omega - its not that they arent welcome here | Jun 19 11:10 |
| formic_ | i welcome all the rich immigrants who wont leech the system | Jun 19 11:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | I welcome all the immigrants who might make a good stew | Jun 19 11:10 |
| formic_ | lol Diablo-D3 | Jun 19 11:10 |
| Omega | if you're rich you by definition leech the system | Jun 19 11:10 |
| Omega | that's what profit is | Jun 19 11:10 |
| Omega | money you leeched from other people's labour | Jun 19 11:11 |
| formic_ | Omega: im talking about people who come to canada and won't get jobs | Jun 19 11:11 |
| Omega | more people means more things need to be done, so more jobs | Jun 19 11:11 |
| Omega | oh wait, there's capitalism | Jun 19 11:11 |
| Omega | so they need an artificial shortage of jobs | Jun 19 11:11 |
| formic_ | im an anarchist and i think people should work for themselves | Jun 19 11:11 |
| formic_ | self support | Jun 19 11:12 |
| Omega | an anarchist that only welcome "rich immigrants"? | Jun 19 11:12 |
| Omega | anarchism is much more than anti-statism | Jun 19 11:12 |
| Omega | it's anti-capitalist | Jun 19 11:12 |
| Omega | it's anti-discrimination | Jun 19 11:12 |
| formic_ | its not anti capitalist | Jun 19 11:12 |
| Omega | it's anti-nationalism | Jun 19 11:12 |
| formic_ | its anti rules | Jun 19 11:12 |
| formic_ | nobody should have power over someone else | Jun 19 11:13 |
| Omega | Anarchism is anticapitalist, it always has been | Jun 19 11:13 |
| Omega | capitalism is hierarchical | Jun 19 11:13 |
| formic_ | look up the definition | Jun 19 11:13 |
| formic_ | anarchy has nothing to do with money | Jun 19 11:13 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: "long pig" | Jun 19 11:13 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 11:13 |
| Omega | formic_: anarchism STARTED with a critique of capitalism | Jun 19 11:13 |
| MinceR | Omega: don't confuse anarchism with anarcho-communism, they're not the same thing | Jun 19 11:14 |
| Omega | I know | Jun 19 11:14 |
| formic_ | Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful,[1][2] or alternatively as opposing authority and hierarchical organization in the conduct of human relations. | Jun 19 11:14 |
| MinceR | and no, capitalism is not hierarchical | Jun 19 11:14 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism | Jun 19 11:14 |
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| Omega | Anarchism started with Proudhon's critique of captialism | Jun 19 11:14 |
| Omega | Proudhon wasn't an anarcho-communist | Jun 19 11:14 |
| Omega | but a mutualist | Jun 19 11:14 |
| MinceR | having property and offering products and/or services for other goods is not a hierarchy | Jun 19 11:14 |
| formic_ | The earliest[44] anarchist themes can be found in the 6th century BC, among the works of Taoist philosopher Laozi,[43] and in later centuries by Zhuangzi and Bao Jingyan. | Jun 19 11:14 |
| MinceR | nice find | Jun 19 11:15 |
| formic_ | He was the first person to refer to himself as an anarchist.[citation needed] In What is Property, published in 1840, he defined anarchy as "the absence of a master, of a sovereign", and in The General idea of the Revolution (1851) he urged a "society without authority." | Jun 19 11:16 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon#Political_philosophy | Jun 19 11:16 |
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| Omega | yes | Jun 19 11:16 |
| Omega | Capitalism requires a body indestiguishable from a state to maintain absentee landlordism | Jun 19 11:18 |
| formic_ | While deeply critical of capitalism, he also objected to those contemporary socialists who advocated centralised, hierarchical forms of association or state control of the economy | Jun 19 11:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@accessjames @alberto_cottica Efficiency may be deceptive. Efficiency only measures intended outcomes. Efficient != Effective. #LOTE | Jun 19 11:18 | |
| MinceR | what's "absentee landlordism" and what has it got to do with capitalism? | Jun 19 11:19 |
| Omega | everything? | Jun 19 11:19 |
| formic_ | why wouldn't you be able to rent out a house in a society without government? | Jun 19 11:19 |
| Omega | it means that you can own something without using it | Jun 19 11:19 |
| Omega | like a landlord | Jun 19 11:19 |
| formic_ | so? | Jun 19 11:20 |
| Omega | that is like the basis of capitalism :| | Jun 19 11:20 |
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| Omega | http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secFcon.html/ | Jun 19 11:20 |
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| MinceR | who determines when isn't something in use? | Jun 19 11:20 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: you're not IN it. :) | Jun 19 11:21 |
| Omega | http://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/ctp4q/chomsky_refutes_libertarian_anarchocapitalism/ | Jun 19 11:21 |
| MinceR | who determines the timeout when something is no longer in use? | Jun 19 11:21 |
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| MinceR | qu1j0t3: oh, so the idea that my home remains my home 2 seconds after i step out the front door is somehow evil and statist? | Jun 19 11:21 |
| MinceR | interesting. | Jun 19 11:21 |
| Omega | MinceR: the community I suppose | Jun 19 11:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: hey, i'm not advancing this idea. | Jun 19 11:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 11:21 |
| Omega | why do you conclude things which have not been answered? | Jun 19 11:22 |
| MinceR | why don't you answer them? | Jun 19 11:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: i'd only point to a concrete definition of ownership as in "I'm holding it" and the abstract as in "I own that". | Jun 19 11:22 |
| Omega | I did | Jun 19 11:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: the latter requires a kind of shared contract/agreement :) | Jun 19 11:22 |
| MinceR | contracts/agreements are possible without a state | Jun 19 11:22 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am sure they are. i have no dog in this fight. :) | Jun 19 11:23 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 19 11:23 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, privacy and data security are impossible without property | Jun 19 11:23 |
| qu1j0t3 | MinceR: they'll get broken, though, just as in our existing system. what next? | Jun 19 11:23 |
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| Omega | anarchism is socialist, by definition, if you don't have control over your workplace it's not anarchist | Jun 19 11:23 |
| Omega | <@MinceR> on the other hand, privacy and data security are impossible without property | Jun 19 11:23 |
| MinceR | no, it's "socialist" by the definition of the communists | Jun 19 11:23 |
| Omega | I'm talking about private property | Jun 19 11:23 |
| MinceR | who want to appropriate anarchism to themselves | Jun 19 11:23 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 11:24 |
| Omega | not all anarchism is communism | Jun 19 11:24 |
| Omega | I alreadys aid that | Jun 19 11:24 |
| Omega | market socialists - or mutualists aren't | Jun 19 11:24 |
| Omega | but capitalism is inherently hierarchical and coercive | Jun 19 11:25 |
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| Omega | please read http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secFcon.html/ | Jun 19 11:25 |
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| MinceR | what makes it hierarchical? what makes it coercive? | Jun 19 11:26 |
| tsloughter | how does a worker eat? | Jun 19 11:26 |
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| MinceR | he puts the food in his mouth, chews and swallows | Jun 19 11:27 |
| tsloughter | where does he get the food | Jun 19 11:27 |
| tsloughter | by selling his labor power to one who owns | Jun 19 11:27 |
| MinceR | he could produce it, forage it or obtain it via trade | Jun 19 11:27 |
| tsloughter | so the ones who own the resources and production capacity are very free | Jun 19 11:28 |
| tsloughter | not so much the majority who have only their labor to sell | Jun 19 11:28 |
| tsloughter | forage it? | Jun 19 11:28 |
| tsloughter | probably get shot if he tries that | Jun 19 11:28 |
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| MinceR | so many assumptions, most of them wrong | Jun 19 11:28 |
| tsloughter | I mean sure, he could go into a life of crime | Jun 19 11:28 |
| MinceR | the worker owns his own production capacity | Jun 19 11:29 |
| tsloughter | his labor,yes | Jun 19 11:29 |
| MinceR | how much other resources he owns was not specified | Jun 19 11:29 |
| tsloughter | but that mustbe put to work on something | Jun 19 11:29 |
| MinceR | for all we know, he could own part of the factory he works in | Jun 19 11:29 |
| tsloughter | this isn't assumptions, this is history | Jun 19 11:29 |
| MinceR | you have given no historical context | Jun 19 11:29 |
| julius1 | MinceR: highly unlikely | Jun 19 11:29 |
| tsloughter | yes, if the work places are worker run we have socialism | Jun 19 11:30 |
| MinceR | also, is this a discussion of principles or the discussion of a particular moment in history? | Jun 19 11:30 |
| tsloughter | I'm not talking about a fake world | Jun 19 11:30 |
| formic_ | 11:25 < Omega> please read http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secFcon.html/ | Jun 19 11:30 |
| tsloughter | I'm tlaking about Earth post fuedalism | Jun 19 11:30 |
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| MinceR | no, if the work places are owned by the state or by nobody, we have socialism | Jun 19 11:30 |
| formic_ | is that a credible source of info? | Jun 19 11:30 |
| Omega | formic_: yes | Jun 19 11:30 |
| tsloughter | if you want to talk about a fake planet to discuss capitlaism and anarchy I'll step out | Jun 19 11:30 |
| formic_ | Omega: I see *no* citations | Jun 19 11:30 |
| formic_ | sounds like someone is redefining things | Jun 19 11:31 |
| MinceR | ok, let's talk about real examples of anarchy on earth... oh wait, there are none | Jun 19 11:31 |
| formic_ | read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism | Jun 19 11:31 |
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| tsloughter | there aren't? | Jun 19 11:31 |
| Omega | http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/biblio.html | Jun 19 11:31 |
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| Omega | formic_: ^ | Jun 19 11:31 |
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| formic_ | 11:23 < Omega> anarchism is socialist, by definition, if you don't have control over your workplace it's not anarchist | Jun 19 11:31 |
| formic_ | ROFL | Jun 19 11:31 |
| formic_ | anarchism is not socialist, because socialism requires government | Jun 19 11:32 |
| formic_ | fool | Jun 19 11:32 |
| tsloughter | tellthat to every anarchist who has ever lived... | Jun 19 11:32 |
| julius1 | formic_: ok | Jun 19 11:32 |
| julius1 | Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin | Jun 19 11:32 |
| julius1 | not anarchists? | Jun 19 11:32 |
| tsloughter | Emma | Jun 19 11:32 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: some of them have heard it already | Jun 19 11:32 |
| tsloughter | Chomsky | Jun 19 11:32 |
| MinceR | so what now? | Jun 19 11:32 |
| tsloughter | anarcho-capitalists simply want private tyranny | Jun 19 11:32 |
| formic_ | socialism requires hierarchical control | Jun 19 11:33 |
| Omega | false | Jun 19 11:33 |
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| formic_ | how do you enforce socialism then | Jun 19 11:33 |
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| formic_ | without law | Jun 19 11:33 |
| MinceR | anarcho-communists simply want to loot others | Jun 19 11:33 |
| tsloughter | loot others? | Jun 19 11:33 |
| Omega | you don't "enforce socialism" it just means workers control of the means of production | Jun 19 11:33 |
| Omega | so your workplace is run by a workers council or something | Jun 19 11:34 |
| formic_ | how do you enforce workers having control of the means of production | Jun 19 11:34 |
| tsloughter | I love how people like MinceR start with the assumption that our current "ownership" is where we start | Jun 19 11:34 |
| formic_ | sounds extremely communist to me | Jun 19 11:34 |
| formic_ | and Bakunin was ex-communist, no surprise at the bias there | Jun 19 11:34 |
| tsloughter | for some reason despite all these resources having been looted by those who know "own" them... | Jun 19 11:34 |
| formic_ | he worked with Marx and turned against him | Jun 19 11:34 |
| Omega | how does this "sound communist" :| | Jun 19 11:34 |
| MinceR | i love how people like tsloughter can't imagine ownership other than "none" and the worst possible idea of ownership they could make up | Jun 19 11:34 |
| tsloughter | its stealing if they are given to the community | Jun 19 11:34 |
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| Omega | formic_: you do know what communism is though right? | Jun 19 11:35 |
| formic_ | omega b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed | Jun 19 11:35 |
| formic_ | http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism | Jun 19 11:35 |
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| Omega | a stateless, moneyless, classless, socialist society | Jun 19 11:35 |
| formic_ | Communism (from Latin communis - common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order. | Jun 19 11:35 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism | Jun 19 11:36 |
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| Omega | indeed | Jun 19 11:36 |
| formic_ | common ownership of the means of production | Jun 19 11:36 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: worst possible ide aof ownership? I'm talking about reality. if you want to change this form of ownership you yourself are doing what you call looting | Jun 19 11:36 |
| Omega | why would you have to "enforce workers" to have ownership over something that THEY make? | Jun 19 11:36 |
| formic_ | how do workers have ownership under anarchy when nobody owns anything | Jun 19 11:36 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 11:36 |
| tsloughter | maybe ethey want to be subjects to owners! ;) | Jun 19 11:36 |
| Omega | they own what they make! | Jun 19 11:37 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: but taking everything away from everyone somehow isn't a form of looting? | Jun 19 11:37 |
| formic_ | how do you own something when there are no laws, rules, or government to enforce your property rights | Jun 19 11:37 |
| Omega | who says anything about no rules | Jun 19 11:37 |
| Omega | it's about no RULERS | Jun 19 11:37 |
| Omega | not no rules | Jun 19 11:37 |
| formic_ | the definition of anarchy | Jun 19 11:37 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: you can consider it that, sure, I don't since that would require accepting its ownership by an individual as a right | Jun 19 11:37 |
| tsloughter | geez, they don't even know what anarchy is | Jun 19 11:38 |
| formic_ | no rulers, no laws, no government | Jun 19 11:38 |
| tsloughter | so they aren't anarcho-capitalists | Jun 19 11:38 |
| Omega | I'm talking about anarchism as an ideology, if you want to turn this into a discussion of semantics (and using a dictionary written by people who have NO idea what anarchism is) I'l step out | Jun 19 11:38 |
| tsloughter | when I play a game of basketball with friends we follow rules | Jun 19 11:39 |
| tsloughter | but we have no refs or coaches or owners | Jun 19 11:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | come on you pansies , who has the balls to step out! | Jun 19 11:39 |
| formic_ | I'd rather read definitions from educated people vs a bunch of anarcho-communists and anarcho-socialists | Jun 19 11:39 |
| Omega | qu1j0t3: haha | Jun 19 11:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: and crypto-this-and-thats! | Jun 19 11:39 |
| Omega | reading a definition doesn't make it true my friend | Jun 19 11:39 |
| tsloughter | formic_: then do so, from people who founded the anarchist movements... | Jun 19 11:39 |
| formic_ | actually if you knew history none of the 'founding anarchists' agreed with each other | Jun 19 11:40 |
| tsloughter | hahah | Jun 19 11:40 |
| tsloughter | yes, Bakuninists weren't mutualists, etc | Jun 19 11:40 |
| tsloughter | but that is not the issue we have here | Jun 19 11:40 |
| Omega | but they were all anticapist | Jun 19 11:41 |
| Omega | anticapitalist | Jun 19 11:41 |
| tsloughter | where are the anarcho-fuedalists | Jun 19 11:41 |
| formic_ | proudhon, based on what I just read was only against state capitalism | Jun 19 11:41 |
| tsloughter | "its ok, we are all free, just all the land is owned by that Lord" | Jun 19 11:41 |
| formic_ | and | Jun 19 11:41 |
| formic_ | he became a socialist afterwards | Jun 19 11:41 |
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| MinceR | tsloughter: that's called "socialism" or "communism" :> | Jun 19 11:41 |
| Omega | tsloughter: hahaha | Jun 19 11:41 |
| MinceR | "we're all free, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" | Jun 19 11:42 |
| formic_ | "Proudhon called himself a socialist, but he opposed state ownership of capital goods in favour of ownership by workers themselves in associations." | Jun 19 11:42 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Joseph_Proudhon#Political_philosophy | Jun 19 11:42 |
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| tsloughter | Proudhon was a fool, he was a mutualist | Jun 19 11:42 |
| tsloughter | but mutualists aren't capitalists | Jun 19 11:42 |
| julius1 | anarchism is about as capitalist as communism is capitalist | Jun 19 11:42 |
| julius1 | end of story | Jun 19 11:42 |
| Omega | formic_: indeed! | Jun 19 11:42 |
| Omega | all anarchists are socialists but oppose the state ownership of goods | Jun 19 11:42 |
| Omega | keyword state | Jun 19 11:43 |
| tsloughter | Omega: by golly I think he's got it! | Jun 19 11:43 |
| tsloughter | hehe | Jun 19 11:43 |
| formic_ | thats bullshit | Jun 19 11:43 |
| tsloughter | haha | Jun 19 11:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | w00t | Jun 19 11:43 |
| MinceR | "if an anarchist disagrees with me then he's not an anarchist!" | Jun 19 11:43 |
| MinceR | boom! | Jun 19 11:43 |
| Omega | you are trying to argue against yourself now :P | Jun 19 11:43 |
| formic_ | anarchy is not socialist | Jun 19 11:43 |
| *qu1j0t3 waits to see who walks out of the bar first, risking a bullet in the back | Jun 19 11:43 | |
| MinceR | really, that's the level of the "debate" now | Jun 19 11:43 |
| julius1 | no | Jun 19 11:43 |
| Omega | MinceR: no | Jun 19 11:43 |
| formic_ | http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy | Jun 19 11:43 |
| julius1 | if an "anarchist" disagrees with anarchism | Jun 19 11:43 |
| julius1 | then he's not an anarchist | Jun 19 11:43 |
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| formic_ | a : absence of government | Jun 19 11:43 |
| formic_ | b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority | Jun 19 11:44 |
| julius1 | formic_: you're really going to trust the "anarchy is chaos" definition? | Jun 19 11:44 |
| julius1 | or whatever | Jun 19 11:44 |
| Omega | formic_: keep using those pop culture definitions :) | Jun 19 11:44 |
| formic_ | c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government | Jun 19 11:44 |
| julius1 | how about you read what was written by the original anarchist, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon | Jun 19 11:44 |
| formic_ | he wasnt the original | Jun 19 11:44 |
| julius1 | or people like Bakunin or Kropotkin who furthered the theory | Jun 19 11:44 |
| julius1 | he was the first person to call himself an anarchist | Jun 19 11:44 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism | Jun 19 11:44 |
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| julius1 | "anarcho"-capitalism is an invention of the 1960s | Jun 19 11:44 |
| formic_ | he invented the word and then became a socialist | Jun 19 11:44 |
| formic_ | doesnt mean anarchy is socialist | Jun 19 11:45 |
| MinceR | so, does he own the term "anarchism" now? | Jun 19 11:45 |
| Omega | lol | Jun 19 11:45 |
| tsloughter | "Look, I'm a darwinist and all, but I think God created man out of nothing" | Jun 19 11:45 |
| julius1 | it's a result of classical liberal economic theorists becoming more extreme | Jun 19 11:45 |
| tsloughter | then yes, you are not a darwinist | Jun 19 11:45 |
| julius1 | first "minarchism" | Jun 19 11:45 |
| tsloughter | same goes for anarchist | Jun 19 11:45 |
| Omega | Yeah, darwin doesn't own the term or anything! | Jun 19 11:45 |
| formic_ | The earliest[44] anarchist themes can be found in the 6th century BC, among the works of Taoist philosopher Laozi,[43] and in later centuries by Zhuangzi and Bao Jingyan | Jun 19 11:45 |
| julius1 | then nonsense like objectivism and galambosianism | Jun 19 11:45 |
| julius1 | and finally "anarcho"-capitalism | Jun 19 11:45 |
| formic_ | http://robertgraham.wordpress.com/anarchism-a-documentary-history-of-libertarian-ideas-volume-one-from-anarchy-to-anarchism-300ce-1939/ | Jun 19 11:45 |
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| MinceR | "darwinism" is a stupid term anyway | Jun 19 11:47 |
| formic_ | you guys are mixing anarchy up with anarcho-communism, anarcho-socialism and anarcho-capitalism | Jun 19 11:47 |
| tsloughter | umm, no | Jun 19 11:47 |
| Omega | no, we're not | Jun 19 11:47 |
| tsloughter | you are mixing anarchy up with the idea of living under private tyrants | Jun 19 11:47 |
| Omega | and I'm not a guy :) use you folks or you people instead :P | Jun 19 11:47 |
| MinceR | you're mixing up the idea of having property with the idea of living under tyrants | Jun 19 11:48 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: what private tyrants | Jun 19 11:48 |
| Omega | MinceR: we're talking about PRIVATE property | Jun 19 11:48 |
| formic_ | when there are no laws or government, who is the tyrant? | Jun 19 11:48 |
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| MinceR | Omega: yes, i meant private property | Jun 19 11:48 |
| formic_ | http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/taoism/ | Jun 19 11:48 |
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| Omega | meaning private ownership over the means of production | Jun 19 11:49 |
| formic_ | Taoism has anarchist themes | Jun 19 11:49 |
| iophk | 4% with a serious Angry Birds addiction? | Jun 19 11:49 |
| MinceR | formic_: but they don't use the trademark! | Jun 19 11:49 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 11:49 |
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| tsloughter | who will protect the private property? private police and armies (which isn't knew, has been done before and i done today where there is no government or a weak government) | Jun 19 11:50 |
| formic_ | mincer - they can't be anarchists because they aren't following the teaching of communist and/or socialist anarchists | Jun 19 11:50 |
| formic_ | again, redefining what you can find in history | Jun 19 11:50 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: the owners themselves or whomever they trust with doing so, for example | Jun 19 11:50 |
| tsloughter | no, that is simply what has and does happen | Jun 19 11:50 |
| MinceR | or the community | Jun 19 11:50 |
| formic_ | there was anarchy before the first civilization | Jun 19 11:50 |
| tsloughter | yea, and there wasn't private property | Jun 19 11:51 |
| MinceR | there might have been anarchy, but no anarchism | Jun 19 11:51 |
| Omega | "We must therefore conclude that we are not anarchists, and that those who call us anarchists are not on firm etymological ground, and are being completely unhistorical" -- Murray N. Rothbard | Jun 19 11:51 |
| Omega | the father of "anarcho"-capitalism | Jun 19 11:51 |
| tsloughter | haha | Jun 19 11:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TPP Investment Chapter Leaked, Gives Investors Right to Sue States (Except Australia) - http://bit.ly/KR1zrf so why accept it elsewhere? | Jun 19 11:55 | |
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| Omega | MinceR: but what is the problem with socialism? | Jun 19 11:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #BringZackBack | Jun 19 11:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Knight Foundation awards $320,000 to #Tor Project - http://bit.ly/MKxh8j really great news | Jun 19 11:56 | |
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| MinceR | Omega: lack of private property | Jun 19 11:57 |
| MinceR | Omega: also, in some forms of socialism, totalitarianism | Jun 19 11:57 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 11:57 |
| Omega | now explain to me why lack of private property is a bad thing | Jun 19 11:58 |
| Omega | are you afraid of not having your own toothbrush? | Jun 19 11:58 |
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| MinceR | yes, for one thing | Jun 19 11:58 |
| MinceR | i also like to have privacy | Jun 19 11:58 |
| Omega | that's not private property | Jun 19 11:58 |
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| MinceR | what is it, if not private property? | Jun 19 11:58 |
| Omega | that is personal property | Jun 19 11:58 |
| *tsloughter wants to be able to run a factory to make money without working! | Jun 19 11:58 | |
| MinceR | ooh, a new, different word! | Jun 19 11:58 |
| Omega | no, it's a very old word | Jun 19 11:58 |
| *tsloughter puts his head in the sand | Jun 19 11:58 | |
| MinceR | and what's the difference between private property and "personal property"? | Jun 19 11:59 |
| Omega | it's the clear distinction that is drawn when talking about property | Jun 19 11:59 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: why not | Jun 19 11:59 |
| formic_ | lol | Jun 19 11:59 |
| formic_ | whats wrong with making passive income? | Jun 19 11:59 |
| MinceR | Omega: what is the "clear distinction"? | Jun 19 11:59 |
| julius1 | passive income doesn't build bridges or houses | Jun 19 11:59 |
| julius1 | workers do | Jun 19 11:59 |
| formic_ | cory doctrow, big creative commons author, gives out all his books for free online and he makes money on the side | Jun 19 12:00 |
| tsloughter | formic_: that is real theft ;) | Jun 19 12:00 |
| MinceR | just "workers" won't build either | Jun 19 12:00 |
| julius1 | why should someone make passive income because they are rich and can invest, while others are forced to work themselves to the bone? | Jun 19 12:00 |
| MinceR | you also need knowledge and expertise to design them | Jun 19 12:00 |
| julius1 | yes | Jun 19 12:00 |
| julius1 | engineers are workers too | Jun 19 12:00 |
| MinceR | and probably to organize it all | Jun 19 12:00 |
| MinceR | you might need to obtain the resources they will be built from | Jun 19 12:00 |
| julius1 | yes | Jun 19 12:00 |
| tsloughter | ok, so you are listing how something is built | Jun 19 12:01 |
| julius1 | the people who do that are also workers | Jun 19 12:01 |
| tsloughter | has nothing to do with what I brought up | Jun 19 12:01 |
| Omega | MinceR: private property are the means of production | Jun 19 12:01 |
| formic_ | 12:00 < tsloughter> formic_: that is real theft ;) | Jun 19 12:01 |
| julius1 | literally every part of constructing a bridge is done by workers other than one: the capitalist demanding where the bridge should be built | Jun 19 12:01 |
| formic_ | how? | Jun 19 12:01 |
| Omega | so factories, land, etc. | Jun 19 12:01 |
| MinceR | Omega: who determines whether my PC is a means of production or not? | Jun 19 12:01 |
| tsloughter | formic_: where does profit come from? | Jun 19 12:01 |
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| MinceR | profit comes from added value | Jun 19 12:02 |
| MinceR | work, ideas, design, the availability of resources | Jun 19 12:02 |
| Omega | MinceR: no one else can use your pc, only you use it, so if it is a means of production it belongs to you - the worker | Jun 19 12:02 |
| MinceR | Omega: i thought you wanted it to belong to everyone or no one | Jun 19 12:02 |
| julius1 | profit comes from extracting value from production | Jun 19 12:02 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: right, labor adds the value, which the capitalist takes a surplus of based on paying less than the value of the labor performed | Jun 19 12:02 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: people purchasing a copy of a book they find value in | Jun 19 12:02 |
| Omega | no, I want it to belong to the ones that use it | Jun 19 12:02 |
| tsloughter | oh dammit | Jun 19 12:03 |
| tsloughter | now they are going to complain when we define value, haha | Jun 19 12:03 |
| tsloughter | exchange value, use-value | Jun 19 12:03 |
| tsloughter | price | Jun 19 12:03 |
| julius1 | MinceR: you doing work on your PC? that's socialism | Jun 19 12:03 |
| Omega | socialism is about the workers control over the means of production | Jun 19 12:03 |
| julius1 | :P | Jun 19 12:03 |
| julius1 | microcosmic | Jun 19 12:03 |
| MinceR | tsloughter: the "capitalist" would probably take profit on the resources he risked in the enterprise | Jun 19 12:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Flipbook Flipboard gets some exclusive write API access from Google? Animal farm, anyone? | Jun 19 12:03 | |
| julius1 | you're a dirty socialist and have been all along | Jun 19 12:03 |
| MinceR | Omega: so, if i let someone view a website on my PC, it becomes theirs? | Jun 19 12:03 |
| julius1 | MinceR: what has he risked other than previous gains he made throguh exploitation? | Jun 19 12:03 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: you just said where profit came form, and that is not one of them | Jun 19 12:03 |
| formic_ | julius1: start up costs | Jun 19 12:03 |
| julius1 | he's done nothing to gain the capital to invest to begin with | Jun 19 12:04 |
| formic_ | materials aren't free | Jun 19 12:04 |
| MinceR | julius1: hopefully it's not through exploitation :) | Jun 19 12:04 |
| julius1 | formic_: yes, and how did he get the money to pay them? | Jun 19 12:04 |
| Omega | MinceR: no, why would it? | Jun 19 12:04 |
| formic_ | julius1: who knows | Jun 19 12:04 |
| MinceR | julius1: i do not propose to defend unfair trade and crime. | Jun 19 12:04 |
| julius1 | MinceR: almost by definition it's through exploitation | Jun 19 12:04 |
| julius1 | all wage slavery is exploitation | Jun 19 12:04 |
| MinceR | Omega: because then they're the ones using it | Jun 19 12:04 |
| formic_ | wage slavery is wage slavery when you have no choice but to work | Jun 19 12:04 |
| MinceR | julius1: "wage slavery" is just doing work for unfairly low pay, isn't it? | Jun 19 12:05 |
| tsloughter | wages are not based on the value produced by the work, but only what is required to pay the workers for them to a) be able to work the next day b) not revolt | Jun 19 12:05 |
| julius1 | www.youtube.com/watch?v=O93YpTYCWRk | Jun 19 12:05 |
| formic_ | which is currently because we have to pay taxes on everything | Jun 19 12:05 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: no | Jun 19 12:05 |
| julius1 | MinceR: no, wage slavery is doing work for a wage | Jun 19 12:05 |
| MinceR | in a healthy economy, it would matter what value is produced | Jun 19 12:05 |
| tsloughter | surplus valu eis extracted because the vlau eproduced is more than the wage | Jun 19 12:05 |
| julius1 | where the capitalist decides how much the worker is paid, extracts profit from the worker's production, and gives back a portion of the value created | Jun 19 12:05 |
| formic_ | whats wrong with working in exchange for trade goods? | Jun 19 12:05 |
| julius1 | all while doing nothing | Jun 19 12:05 |
| Omega | MinceR: if it becomes a work computer that you both use, then it would be theirs too; but if it's just your personal computer, then it's still yoursels | Jun 19 12:05 |
| formic_ | julius1: not doing nothing | Jun 19 12:05 |
| julius1 | formic_: wage slavery is being locked into a situation where you are forced to work for a capitalist to survive | Jun 19 12:05 |
| formic_ | julius1: running a business, taking risk with start up money | Jun 19 12:06 |
| MinceR | Omega: but then there _is_ a link between the PC and me | Jun 19 12:06 |
| Omega | MinceR: ? | Jun 19 12:06 |
| MinceR | and it's not about who's producing with it at the moment | Jun 19 12:06 |
| julius1 | formic_: and how did he get that startup money? | Jun 19 12:06 |
| julius1 | formic_: undoubtedly through his or his ancestor's exploitation of workers | Jun 19 12:06 |
| formic_ | julius1: perhaps he had other sucsessful businesses | Jun 19 12:06 |
| julius1 | maybe a lone worker who won the lottery | Jun 19 12:06 |
| MinceR | Omega: and more importantly, which of us has the right to know the root password? | Jun 19 12:06 |
| tsloughter | maybe he fell down a hole and landed in a pot of gold | Jun 19 12:06 |
| julius1 | formic_: so previous exploitation justifies future exploitation? | Jun 19 12:06 |
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| formic_ | perhaps the guy got money because he started one business from the ground up himself that earned him money to expand | Jun 19 12:06 |
| Omega | MinceR: they can get their own computer | Jun 19 12:07 |
| Omega | MinceR: what's the problem? | Jun 19 12:07 |
| julius1 | formic_: statistically unlikely | Jun 19 12:07 |
| julius1 | and think about this | Jun 19 12:07 |
| MinceR | Omega: that sounds an awful lot like private property to me | Jun 19 12:07 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 12:07 |
| julius1 | if he started his own business, he is likely already petit-bourgeois | Jun 19 12:07 |
| MinceR | i could say to everything "they can get their own" | Jun 19 12:07 |
| formic_ | julius1: how are you on the internet right now? | Jun 19 12:07 |
| Omega | I mean they literally CAN, I'm not talking about a theological potential | Jun 19 12:07 |
| MinceR | for example, "they can get their own land" | Jun 19 12:07 |
| tsloughter | "get your own only fresh water resource for hundreds of miles! this ones my property!" | Jun 19 12:07 |
| Omega | like when capitalists use the word "can" | Jun 19 12:07 |
| julius1 | formic_: because the military and universities experimented with computer networks | Jun 19 12:08 |
| formic_ | julius1: why are you running capitalist microsoft windows? | Jun 19 12:08 |
| julius1 | formic_: because this is a computer lab | Jun 19 12:08 |
| formic_ | when so many non capitalist options exist | Jun 19 12:08 |
| julius1 | I don't have much choice | Jun 19 12:08 |
| tsloughter | but really, they seem to be arguing mutualist anarchy with this computer startup by one owner talk | Jun 19 12:08 |
| julius1 | my primary computer runs arch linux | Jun 19 12:08 |
| julius1 | formic_: the truth is you seem to think that anyone can "start their own business" | Jun 19 12:09 |
| formic_ | Omega: did you send julius1 and tsloughter into this channel to help support your crazy anarcho-communist ideals? | Jun 19 12:09 |
| MinceR | and yes, they can | Jun 19 12:09 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 12:09 |
| julius1 | realistically the petit-bourgeoisie themselves are overwhelmed by big capital through the nature of capitalism | Jun 19 12:09 |
| tsloughter | dammit julius1, they don't want to talk about reality! ;) | Jun 19 12:09 |
| julius1 | proletarians have little to no ability to compete with bourgeois-run production | Jun 19 12:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, because anarcho-communism is so reality | Jun 19 12:10 |
| MinceR | oh, wait | Jun 19 12:10 |
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| formic_ | I know I get flak for accusing people of being communists, but man, these guys are red flags: Omega, tsloughter, julius1 | Jun 19 12:10 |
| tsloughter | yes, I am a communist | Jun 19 12:10 |
| tsloughter | no flak | Jun 19 12:10 |
| julius1 | which is why today the petit-bourgeoisie is consigned mostly to service that is quickly being taken over | Jun 19 12:10 |
| tsloughter | just what I am | Jun 19 12:10 |
| Omega | MinceR: we were arguing abotu what would happen under socialism, not now | Jun 19 12:10 |
| Omega | MinceR: keep up | Jun 19 12:10 |
| formic_ | communists mistakingly think they are in the same league as anarchists | Jun 19 12:10 |
| julius1 | MinceR: funny, the closest anyone has got to anarchy was the libertarian communist revolution in spain | Jun 19 12:10 |
| MinceR | Omega: meanwhile tsloughter keeps whining that people bring up hypothetical scenarios | Jun 19 12:11 |
| tsloughter | and we do so based on the property relations that exist today and have existed in the past to leadus here | Jun 19 12:11 |
| MinceR | Omega: you can't have both... | Jun 19 12:11 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_without_adjectives | Jun 19 12:11 |
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| julius1 | unless the "A" in "FAI" means "Totally Not Anarchists" | Jun 19 12:11 |
| tsloughter | MinceR: you can | Jun 19 12:11 |
| Omega | MinceR: I'm talking about you and me | Jun 19 12:11 |
| Omega | MinceR: our discussion | Jun 19 12:11 |
| formic_ | tsloughter: named after the communist left wing killer Loughner? | Jun 19 12:11 |
| MinceR | btw, i've seen communism/socialism from pretty close | Jun 19 12:11 |
| MinceR | here in the eastern bloc | Jun 19 12:11 |
| tsloughter | no | Jun 19 12:11 |
| MinceR | it isn't fun. at all. | Jun 19 12:11 |
| Omega | MinceR: it was about socialism, in theory, you presented a hypothetical situation, I replied | Jun 19 12:12 |
| julius1 | that was not communism by definition | Jun 19 12:12 |
| tsloughter | I've seen capitalism up close... | Jun 19 12:12 |
| julius1 | MinceR: the state-capitalism of the eastern bloc is unfortunate | Jun 19 12:12 |
| formic_ | "you guys aren't anarchist, and anarchy isn't what you say it is! why? because its not communist!" | Jun 19 12:12 |
| MinceR | +1 | Jun 19 12:12 |
| julius1 | well, was unfortunate | Jun 19 12:12 |
| julius1 | now eastern europe has reverted to its previous stance of being western europe's third world | Jun 19 12:13 |
| MinceR | hungary is a special case | Jun 19 12:13 |
| MinceR | it has reverted to dictatorship | Jun 19 12:13 |
| MinceR | apparently by the voters' choice | Jun 19 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The bogus drug war: Oliver Stone: "This drug war is insane" http://goo.gl/w8BKk | Jun 19 12:13 | |
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| MinceR | i hate this place | Jun 19 12:13 |
| julius1 | where multinationals can readily exploit the beaten-down local workforce in an attempt to avoid strong labour movements in western europe | Jun 19 12:13 |
| formic_ | Mincer - you were right before about my accusations, communists are so obvious now to me | Jun 19 12:13 |
| julius1 | I am an anarcho-syndicalist | Jun 19 12:14 |
| julius1 | the historically most successful branch of anarchism | Jun 19 12:14 |
| julius1 | still today has the largest and most active anarchist orgs | Jun 19 12:14 |
| Omega | I'm a queer-anarchist | Jun 19 12:14 |
| MinceR | good for you | Jun 19 12:14 |
| julius1 | yes, it is good for me | Jun 19 12:14 |
| julius1 | bad for capitalism-lovers like you | Jun 19 12:14 |
| MinceR | i don't see what that has to do with anything | Jun 19 12:15 |
| tsloughter | sadly the only communist here :( | Jun 19 12:15 |
| julius1 | europe is much more sane in most places | Jun 19 12:16 |
| MinceR | not nearly sane enough | Jun 19 12:16 |
| julius1 | at least there has been a breakthrough in montreal | Jun 19 12:16 |
| julius1 | in europe at least they are beginning to revolt against austerity | Jun 19 12:16 |
| MinceR | the EU was even willing to negotiate about ACTA | Jun 19 12:16 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Miel_vds: MT @alberto_cottica: Fresh insights about what #opendata apps are about (350 analyzed). h http://ur1. ... | Jun 19 12:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ResulTapmaz: Studenten maken apps voor Gent http://t.co/JUWThzl9 | Jun 19 12:16 | |
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| julius1 | since austerity is basically an attempt to knock western europe down to the level of the USA | Jun 19 12:17 |
| julius1 | under the guise of "curing the recession" | Jun 19 12:17 |
| julius1 | destroy labour movements, dismantle social services, etc. | Jun 19 12:17 |
| schestowitz | julius1: new here? | Jun 19 12:22 |
| julius1 | no, temporary | Jun 19 12:22 |
| julius1 | I just came to argue] | Jun 19 12:22 |
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| schestowitz | ok | Jun 19 12:27 |
| schestowitz | just scrolled up | Jun 19 12:27 |
| schestowitz | was with the missus on the phone for an hour, so lost track.. | Jun 19 12:27 |
| *schestowitz back to Ukranian rap | Jun 19 12:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] RT @cameronneylon: First thoughts on the Finch Report: Good steps but missed opportunities ff.im/-YYRpg | Jun 19 12:33 | |
| schestowitz | cnet is shaking up Android http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57455054-94/would-samsung-ever-leave-android-new-ceo-drops-hints/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title | Jun 19 12:36 |
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| formic_ | 12:14 < julius1> bad for capitalism-lovers like you | Jun 19 12:37 |
| schestowitz | sounds perverse | Jun 19 12:38 |
| formic_ | money is a common denominator for trade | Jun 19 12:38 |
| schestowitz | "lover" | Jun 19 12:38 |
| schestowitz | nope, formic_ | Jun 19 12:38 |
| julius1 | it is perverse | Jun 19 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | money is a representation of it | Jun 19 12:38 |
| formic_ | its not efficient to try finding someone who will trade your corn for something you need | Jun 19 12:38 |
| schestowitz | manifestation/token/currency | Jun 19 12:38 |
| formic_ | bitcoin is a nice example of decentralized currency | Jun 19 12:39 |
| schestowitz | the common denominator can be bonds or alliances | Jun 19 12:39 |
| schestowitz | ultimately it's power | Jun 19 12:39 |
| schestowitz | or purchasing power | Jun 19 12:39 |
| schestowitz | same thing | Jun 19 12:39 |
| schestowitz | you can purchase weapons | Jun 19 12:39 |
| formic_ | sure you can trade phyiscal objects, but what if you need a rake and nobody wants corn? | Jun 19 12:39 |
| schestowitz | So money can be sub'd for subjugation | Jun 19 12:39 |
| formic_ | schestowitz: how do you trade then | Jun 19 12:40 |
| schestowitz | people work in groups | Jun 19 12:40 |
| schestowitz | find a friend who has something other than corn | Jun 19 12:41 |
| schestowitz | bartering by favour | Jun 19 12:41 |
| schestowitz | paper trail or mental note | Jun 19 12:41 |
| formic_ | schestowitz: so you're willing to drag around 50 goats while trying to find a trader who needs 50 goats? | Jun 19 12:42 |
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| formic_ | schestowitz: meanwhile, you're not even allowed to own 50 goats according to some of these new ppl here | Jun 19 12:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Stable kernels 3.0.35 and 3.4.3 http://ur1.ca/9iva4 #linux | Jun 19 12:43 | |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 12:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Monsanto May Be Forced To Repay Brazilian GM Soybean Royalties Worth Billions Of Dollars - http://bit.ly/Mq1c7v ouch #br | Jun 19 12:45 | |
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| MinceR | no, you're supposed to just take what you need | Jun 19 12:45 |
| Omega | of course you can't own goats | Jun 19 12:45 |
| Omega | they are sentient beings | Jun 19 12:45 |
| formic_ | :) | Jun 19 12:45 |
| Omega | it's slavery | Jun 19 12:45 |
| MinceR | really? | Jun 19 12:45 |
| MinceR | goats are people now? | Jun 19 12:45 |
| formic_ | goats have rights! | Jun 19 12:46 |
| Omega | where di I say that? | Jun 19 12:46 |
| formic_ | goats should be voting | Jun 19 12:46 |
| formic_ | damn it! | Jun 19 12:46 |
| Omega | of course they have right | Jun 19 12:46 |
| Omega | s | Jun 19 12:46 |
| Omega | they are sentient beings | Jun 19 12:46 |
| Omega | just like infants have rights | Jun 19 12:46 |
| formic_ | food doesn't have rights | Jun 19 12:46 |
| Omega | and mentally handicapped people have rights | Jun 19 12:46 |
| formic_ | do you think that animals think of their prey's rights? | Jun 19 12:47 |
| MinceR | except the right to own objects | Jun 19 12:47 |
| MinceR | boom! | Jun 19 12:47 |
| Omega | you still struggle with the concept of personal property MinceR? | Jun 19 12:47 |
| MinceR | how can someone struggle with something that is imaginary and arbitrary? | Jun 19 12:47 |
| Omega | formic_: no, because they have no other choice, we do have a choice | Jun 19 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody #Monsanto May Be Forced To Repay Brazilian GM Soybean Royalties Worth Billions Of Dollars - http://bit.ly/Mq1c7v ouch #br | Jun 19 12:48 | |
| Omega | MinceR: all concepts are imaginary and arbitrary | Jun 19 12:48 |
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| MinceR | and what rights would you give to goats? | Jun 19 12:48 |
| Omega | the right not to be a fucking slave | Jun 19 12:49 |
| MinceR | define "fucking slave" | Jun 19 12:49 |
| formic_ | Omega: you would be a slave under socialism and communism | Jun 19 12:49 |
| MinceR | am i allowed to eat the goat? | Jun 19 12:49 |
| formic_ | and anarcho-communism and anarcho-socialism | Jun 19 12:49 |
| formic_ | you're a worker, and you have to contribute communally | Jun 19 12:49 |
| formic_ | you're a labour slave | Jun 19 12:50 |
| MinceR | you don't have to contribute, they'll just take your stuff without asking you | Jun 19 12:50 |
| MinceR | because everyone is entitled to it | Jun 19 12:50 |
| formic_ | you'll have to perform manual labour just to eat | Jun 19 12:50 |
| formic_ | because art, intellectual creations, etc aren't 'valuable' | Jun 19 12:50 |
| MinceR | don't worry, you don't get to eat | Jun 19 12:50 |
| formic_ | are considered 'theft' if you try and sell | Jun 19 12:50 |
| MinceR | because your food has rights and you do not | Jun 19 12:50 |
| Omega | who is "they"? | Jun 19 12:51 |
| Omega | and why would they take my stuff | Jun 19 12:51 |
| MinceR | the "anarcho-"communists | Jun 19 12:51 |
| formic_ | everyone | Jun 19 12:51 |
| Omega | I don't think you know hat you are talking about | Jun 19 12:51 |
| MinceR | and because they think it's not yours | Jun 19 12:51 |
| formic_ | they'll take your goats, because you can't own them | Jun 19 12:52 |
| Omega | (well that was apparant, not knowing the difference ebtween private and personal property) | Jun 19 12:52 |
| MinceR | (since there's none) | Jun 19 12:52 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 12:52 |
| Omega | have you read any socialist literature at all? | Jun 19 12:52 |
| Omega | or do you just go by the terms used on tv during the red scare? | Jun 19 12:52 |
| MinceR | (it's just something you made up when i made it apparent that the idea of no property is very problematic, even if we ignore the issue of no incentives to do one's work well) | Jun 19 12:52 |
| MinceR | i just go by the terms i researched on wikipedia, everything2, reddit and other sources | Jun 19 12:53 |
| Omega | so, no actual sources | Jun 19 12:53 |
| Omega | but what people have tld you yhey are | Jun 19 12:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Band's 4am name prompts licensing officer and police visit http://goo.gl/aGlDk | Jun 19 12:53 | |
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| Omega | you really think I made up the private/personal property thing? | Jun 19 12:53 |
| Omega | google it | Jun 19 12:53 |
| MinceR | could be other "anarcho-"communists, for all i know | Jun 19 12:54 |
| MinceR | after all, the issue is really glaring | Jun 19 12:54 |
| Omega | http://www.revleft.com/vb/difference-between-private-t27576/index.html?s=00ab4ad0c3f6f8b357ac8e57aaad4701& | Jun 19 12:54 |
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| Omega | of course someone has to invent these terms | Jun 19 12:55 |
| Omega | so we know what we're talking about | Jun 19 12:55 |
| Omega | it's what langauge is | Jun 19 12:55 |
| Omega | http://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/pey8z/private_property_comic/ | Jun 19 12:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "Private property." (comic) : socialism .::. Size~: 130.4 KB | Jun 19 12:56 |
| Omega | you like reddit, so there | Jun 19 12:56 |
| MinceR | not very well done | Jun 19 12:57 |
| MinceR | just the usual populist crap | Jun 19 12:57 |
| formic_ | 12:53 <@MinceR> i just go by the terms i researched on wikipedia, everything2, reddit and | Jun 19 13:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Suddenly, #Windows8 logo makes sooo much more sense! http://ur1.ca/9j40z !linux !lol !memes !fs !ubuntu | Jun 19 13:01 | |
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| formic_ | other sources | Jun 19 13:01 |
| formic_ | 12:53 < Omega> so, no actual sources | Jun 19 13:01 |
| formic_ | LOL | Jun 19 13:02 |
| formic_ | disagreement with sources = no actual sources | Jun 19 13:02 |
| formic_ | our sources aren't boosting an unobtainable utopia | Jun 19 13:02 |
| formic_ | no good! | Jun 19 13:02 |
| Omega | reddit isn't a source | Jun 19 13:02 |
| Omega | wikipedia isn't a source | Jun 19 13:02 |
| Omega | everything2 isn't a source | Jun 19 13:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Two things we’ve proved along the way - http://bit.ly/MbZLvD #mozilla, that is... | Jun 19 13:03 | |
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| formic_ | wikipedia can be a good starting point, it has sources | Jun 19 13:03 |
| formic_ | wikipedia has rules that promote neutral POV's | Jun 19 13:03 |
| MinceR | "it doesn't support my communist agenda" => "it isn't a source" | Jun 19 13:05 |
| MinceR | "if it happens to agree with me, only then can it be a source" | Jun 19 13:05 |
| Omega | really, all you keep telling me is "you're a communist" | Jun 19 13:06 |
| Omega | formic_: indeed it can be a good starting point | Jun 19 13:06 |
| MinceR | yes, that's all you want to hear | Jun 19 13:06 |
| Omega | but you can't read a wikipedia article and expect to understand an ideology enough to be able to attack it | Jun 19 13:06 |
| Omega | (with things that are not part of the ideology) | Jun 19 13:07 |
| MinceR | oh, so you get to attack ideologies with things that are not part of it, but people who don't agree with you don't? | Jun 19 13:07 |
| Omega | what? | Jun 19 13:07 |
| Omega | my source isn't wikipedia | Jun 19 13:08 |
| Omega | I don't read a singlea rticle and think I'm knowledgeable on the topic | Jun 19 13:08 |
| MinceR | my sources are different from yours, therefore i'm right and you're wrong | Jun 19 13:09 |
| Omega | when you are talking about terms like private property | Jun 19 13:11 |
| Omega | it's a good idea to know what it means | Jun 19 13:11 |
| formic_ | you've read stuff who append adjectives to anarchy | Jun 19 13:11 |
| Omega | we can't argue otherwise | Jun 19 13:11 |
| MinceR | not just append adjectives, but also claim the term to their own ideologies | Jun 19 13:12 |
| Omega | I can be a darwinist and believe in god, god dammit! | Jun 19 13:12 |
| MinceR | what's a "darwinist"? | Jun 19 13:12 |
| Omega | use one of your sources | Jun 19 13:13 |
| Omega | but I've got to go now | Jun 19 13:13 |
| Omega | have a nice day | Jun 19 13:13 |
| MinceR | oh, so you also have something to learn about biology :> | Jun 19 13:13 |
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| formic_ | a darwinist is someone who believes in evolution | Jun 19 13:15 |
| formic_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism | Jun 19 13:16 |
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| MinceR | as if Darwin was the only one who advanced that theory | Jun 19 13:16 |
| formic_ | he deserves credit for it | Jun 19 13:16 |
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| MinceR | knowledge of science isn't an "-ism" | Jun 19 13:17 |
| formic_ | only americans have a negative association with the word 'darwinism' | Jun 19 13:17 |
| formic_ | usually creationists | Jun 19 13:17 |
| formic_ | other people who are actually scientists don't mind the term | Jun 19 13:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Monsanto May Be Forced To Repay Brazilian GM Soybean Royalties Worth Billions Of Dollars http://identi.ca/url/72343418 | Jun 19 13:18 | |
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| formic_ | Omega: heres a brainfuck, you'll never have communism because you exist in my world currently. The version of you that gets to have it is in some other dimension. | Jun 19 13:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 13:20 |
| formic_ | Omega: you're just a figment of my imagination | Jun 19 13:21 |
| Omega | so much for your world, you can't even choose to not shovel the snow away | Jun 19 13:21 |
| formic_ | Omega: don't feel so bad, there is a version of you where you're actually right | Jun 19 13:22 |
| formic_ | Omega: there might even be a communist version of me out there in another dimension that might agree with you | Jun 19 13:23 |
| Omega | MinceR: don't you think there's something wrong with your position when someone like formic_ supports it | Jun 19 13:24 |
| Omega | "there might even be a communist version of me out there in another dimension that might agree with you" | Jun 19 13:24 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 13:24 |
| formic_ | Omega: its called science | Jun 19 13:24 |
| Omega | :| | Jun 19 13:24 |
| formic_ | 11 dimensions | Jun 19 13:24 |
| Omega | right | Jun 19 13:24 |
| Omega | string theory isn't fact | Jun 19 13:24 |
| formic_ | the 6th dimension is where you are right now, your observation creats your own world | Jun 19 13:25 |
| Omega | and it doesn't work like that | Jun 19 13:25 |
| Omega | what | Jun 19 13:25 |
| formic_ | Omega: read a textbook on quantum mechanics | Jun 19 13:25 |
| Omega | you have no understanding of string theory ): | Jun 19 13:25 |
| Omega | I actually study physics | Jun 19 13:25 |
| formic_ | it's you that doesn't | Jun 19 13:25 |
| Omega | I didn't just watch a dr quantum video | Jun 19 13:25 |
| formic_ | http://www.tenthdimension.com/ | Jun 19 13:26 |
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| formic_ | this is the best way I can explain it to you (and its not even me doing the explaining) - http://youtu.be/COAfHQNFEb8 | Jun 19 13:27 |
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| formic_ | believe what you want | Jun 19 13:28 |
| formic_ | you can believe in the flying spagetti monster, or some nonsense utopia that will never happen because it requires 100% support of everyone | Jun 19 13:29 |
| Omega | hey | Jun 19 13:30 |
| Omega | I never thought of that! | Jun 19 13:30 |
| Omega | you're absolutely right! | Jun 19 13:30 |
| Omega | how come nobody told me that before! | Jun 19 13:31 |
| Omega | all these years | Jun 19 13:31 |
| Omega | all these years | Jun 19 13:31 |
| Omega | nobody said that before | Jun 19 13:31 |
| Omega | oh wait... | Jun 19 13:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: wait, wait-- why do we have the status quo then? | Jun 19 13:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: isn't that supported by everyone? | Jun 19 13:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | if not, how do we come to have it?! | Jun 19 13:31 |
| Omega | by force of course | Jun 19 13:32 |
| formic_ | theres an international banking cartel that has had control for centuries | Jun 19 13:33 |
| formic_ | they won't agree with your utopia | Jun 19 13:33 |
| formic_ | i dont agree with them running things either, but what are you gonna do about it? | Jun 19 13:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] while the UK has a veto in the UN, it won't matter if the entire world back Argentina's claim on the Falklands, the Uk will veto it | Jun 19 13:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Cameron is quick to back "the peoples chopice" as long as they vote the way he wants, would he support the Falkland islanders otherwise? | Jun 19 13:33 | |
| Omega | but I'll ask they real nicely | Jun 19 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Omega: that was my idea too! | Jun 19 13:33 |
| Omega | please give up your power | Jun 19 13:33 |
| Omega | please! | Jun 19 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Omega: maybe if we keep on voting! | Jun 19 13:33 |
| qu1j0t3 | Omega: we can change everything! | Jun 19 13:34 |
| Omega | that'll surely work! | Jun 19 13:34 |
| formic_ | are you going to kill people who don't agree with communism? | Jun 19 13:35 |
| formic_ | like Mao, Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin and Castro? | Jun 19 13:35 |
| Omega | or other state heards* | Jun 19 13:36 |
| Omega | heads* | Jun 19 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | state heards | Jun 19 13:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | lol | Jun 19 13:36 |
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| Omega | if someone were going to harm a comrade of someone's and the only way to stop them would be to kill them, I think I know what they'd say to the question "are you going to kill people who don't agree with? like Mao, Stalin, Trotsky, Lenin and Castro?" | Jun 19 13:38 |
| Omega | inb4 no one is harmed by capitalism | Jun 19 13:39 |
| formic_ | so killing is fine if they aren't communists, but its wrong if you're protecting land you just aquired? | Jun 19 13:39 |
| Omega | but I gotta yet | Jun 19 13:39 |
| Omega | jet* | Jun 19 13:39 |
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| *DaemonFC wonders who Diebold will give us this year | Jun 19 13:49 | |
| DaemonFC | the anticipation is killing me, like the arsenic in my drinking water | Jun 19 13:49 |
| julius1 | bender | Jun 19 13:55 |
| julius1 | for president | Jun 19 13:55 |
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| formic_ | lol | Jun 19 13:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd be very England to go from joint top of the group, to "out" in the last game by colapsing, and the other game not doing them any favour | Jun 19 13:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Years ago the nice chaps at Dell handed me an iPod Nano 1st generation (2GB). Recently Apple started a recall program ... http://b1t.it/bDVp | Jun 19 13:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Drumming up for a war starts now... and they seem to be tying #Iran with #Syria militarily... two birds (invasions, coups) with one stone... | Jun 19 14:03 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, I wonder when the AM2+ processors will go on fire sale prices | Jun 19 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | I have a hankering to upgrade when that happens | Jun 19 14:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] PROV-AQ: Provenance Access and Query Draft Published http://dlvr.it/1kz8bY | Jun 19 14:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Media Queries and 'view mode' are W3C Recommendations http://dlvr.it/1kz8jG | Jun 19 14:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Lightworks Running On Ubuntu; Pro Film Editing Coming To Linux? http://ur1.ca/9j4fp #ubuntu #linux | Jun 19 14:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MT @BWcomms [British Waterways] says "we're looking into releasing the data [more widely] and might consider it in the future. :)" | Jun 19 14:13 | |
| scientes | schestowitz, Two Britons were killed in an air crash today. The other victims were, in order of importance, 4 Americans, 1 Australian, 3 French and 213 Africans. | Jun 19 14:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | scientes: touché | Jun 19 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | so you repackage that for Fox News and it was....four Americans, six "other coalition forces", and 213 "Islamic militant terrorists" | Jun 19 14:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | DaemonFC: LOL | Jun 19 14:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | scientes: hah | Jun 19 14:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz #Lightworks Running On Ubuntu; Pro Film Editing Coming To Linux? http://ur1.ca/9j4fp #ubuntu #linux | Jun 19 14:18 | |
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| DaemonFC | qu1j0t3: We're winning! WINNING I TELLS YA! | Jun 19 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | MUAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!! | Jun 19 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | SURGE!!!! SURGE!!!!! | Jun 19 14:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @zach Microsoft Threat Management Gateway classifies donating to the FSF as gambling. !fsf http://ur1.ca/9j4c1 | Jun 19 14:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz RT @glynmoody #Monsanto May Be Forced To Repay Brazilian GM Soybean Royalties Worth Billions Of Dollars - http://bit.ly/ ... | Jun 19 14:20 | |
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| DaemonFC | POWER SLAM! | Jun 19 14:20 |
| schestowitz | scientes: lol | Jun 19 14:21 |
| schestowitz | the cost of 'democracy' (occupation) in Iraq: a few thousands of violent soldiers | Jun 19 14:22 |
| schestowitz | let's set up a monument for them in Baghdad, like Stalin's in Absurdistan | Jun 19 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ITU & the Real Threats to Internet, Part IV: the Triumph of State Security & Proposed Changes to ITRs - http://bit.ly/NfcFJx interesting | Jun 19 14:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Bush's Boots? | Jun 19 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | has a nice ring to it | Jun 19 14:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] this is the most secure browser ever! ;) http://goo.gl/GIcJs | Jun 19 14:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 2nd Tier Status for #Canada?: 5 Questions On Canada's Entry to The Trans Pacific Partnership Talks - http://bit.ly/LcFCra humiliating | Jun 19 14:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@kariera2012: 23.06 uczestnicy Targów w Poznaniu usłyszą m.in prezentację Michała "ryśka" Woźniaka nt wolnego oprogramowania #poznan #fwioo | Jun 19 14:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Syria #UN mission headed by spy? (Op-Ed) — RT http://goo.gl/oB5zv #nato #nwo | Jun 19 14:31 | |
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| formic_ | julias1 is guilty of going to a capitalist school which promotes mining innovation | Jun 19 14:33 |
| formic_ | http://laurentian.ca/Laurentian/Home/About+LU/Welcome+-+About+LU.htm?Laurentian_Lang=en-CA | Jun 19 14:33 |
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| formic_ | http://www.miningexcellence.ca/ | Jun 19 14:33 |
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| formic_ | "industry-driven research" = lobbyist driven research | Jun 19 14:34 |
| schestowitz | not exactly | Jun 19 14:35 |
| schestowitz | it's them who fund it | Jun 19 14:35 |
| schestowitz | for the lobbyists to then use | Jun 19 14:35 |
| schestowitz | they hire corruptible analysts from gartner or some uni | Jun 19 14:35 |
| schestowitz | and then they use the results to do media propaganda and lobbying with some snakes like Florian | Jun 19 14:35 |
| schestowitz | it's polluting the pool of real research | Jun 19 14:36 |
| schestowitz | like the stuff on cellphone, global warming | Jun 19 14:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Tirar dias de férias ou feriados aos portugueses não passam de tretas", diz #MedinaCarreira - SAPO Notícias http://goo.gl/LOQDt #pt | Jun 19 14:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] SAY IT LOUD: "I'M GEEK AND I'M PROUD!" #FeelsGoodMan #EdgeRyders #lote | Jun 19 14:38 | |
| DaemonFC | as if textbooks weren't already expensive enough, now schools are giving out ipads | Jun 19 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | and on top of the millions of dollars each one spends on ipads, they have to pay a separate fee for the textbook "apps" | Jun 19 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | although it probably does make it easier to change the course content each time the politicians decide new propaganda is needed | Jun 19 14:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/9j4nf | Jun 19 14:46 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Hey #ITU! The net belongs 2 us. Release any proposals to regulate it. Sign @accessnow petition: http://bit.ly/KOpPM3 #netfreedom | Jun 19 14:48 | |
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| MinceR | Omega: argumentum ad hominem | Jun 19 14:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/06/18/1718254/national-do-not-kill-registry-launched-in-response-to-drone-kill-list | Jun 19 14:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Fedora 17 ARM GA Release http://ur1.ca/9j4nx | Jun 19 14:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.4.3-gnu and 3.0.35-gnu mipsel binaries for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now available | Jun 19 14:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Matthew Garrett http://ur1.ca/9j4p0 | Jun 19 14:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @kyrah404: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange takes refuge at the Ecuador embassy in London and seeks asylum http://t.co/NNv2rNrG #wtfweek | Jun 19 15:01 | |
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| formic_ | MinceR: eh? | Jun 19 15:07 |
| formic_ | qu1j0t3: what happens if they do kill you, and you're on the list? | Jun 19 15:07 |
| MinceR | formic_: 192407 #techrights: < Omega> MinceR: don't you think there's something wrong with your position when someone like formic_ supports it | Jun 19 15:07 |
| formic_ | MinceR: oh thank you :) | Jun 19 15:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: I guess your estate sues. | Jun 19 15:08 |
| formic_ | qu1j0t3: estate? | Jun 19 15:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | formic_: i can only see this concept as comedy | Jun 19 15:08 |
| formic_ | qu1j0t3: no such thing as an estate under the proliteriate utopia! | Jun 19 15:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 15:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] Liberation fonts and the tricky task of internationalization http://ur1.ca/9j4rl | Jun 19 15:10 | |
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| formic_ | czary! | Jun 19 15:11 |
| prurigro | character attacks are the most sound arguments imho | Jun 19 15:12 |
| MinceR | well, they're certainly easy to make | Jun 19 15:14 |
| MinceR | though i find attacking misspellings and grammar errors even easier | Jun 19 15:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Secret documents show how hard Conservative government lobbied to get into #TPP talks - http://bit.ly/Nfo3oK deathwish? (v @PCGTW) #ca | Jun 19 15:15 | |
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| prurigro | MinceR, good point-- I'd forgotten about the old fallacy that declares your argument toast upon your opponent's discovery of incorrect spelling and grammar | Jun 19 15:18 |
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| MinceR | :) | Jun 19 15:20 |
| formic_ | also their argument is toast upon the opponents use of images | Jun 19 15:22 |
| formic_ | http://imgur.com/Xcw1d | Jun 19 15:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Just added a new #CC Kickstarter project to our page: http://www.kickstarter.com/creativecommons Check out Haunts video game + others! | Jun 19 15:23 | |
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| iophk | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/19/julian-assange-wikileaks-asylum-ecuador | Jun 19 15:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Julian Assange seeking asylum in Ecuadorian embassy in London | Media | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 106.49 KB | Jun 19 15:24 |
| iophk | The Guardian still gets it wrong, there have been no accusations yet, he is just wanted for questioning. | Jun 19 15:25 |
| iophk | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/06/ap-julian-assange-seeks-asylum-in-ecuador-embassy/1 | Jun 19 15:25 |
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| iophk | Strangely McNews got it right. | Jun 19 15:25 |
| formic_ | McNews? | Jun 19 15:26 |
| formic_ | iophk: if its just questioning, why doesnt he go to sweden and answer? | Jun 19 15:27 |
| prurigro | I feel like the news has less and less of an idea what they're talking about these days | Jun 19 15:27 |
| prurigro | isn't sweden a trap? | Jun 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | it is | Jun 19 15:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Assange seeks asylum at Ecuador embassy http://identi.ca/url/72345374 !wl | Jun 19 15:28 | |
| MinceR | sweden has subjected itself to the will of usian interests | Jun 19 15:28 |
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| formic_ | of course its a trap | Jun 19 15:28 |
| formic_ | one of the accusers is a militant ex-cia feminist | Jun 19 15:28 |
| MinceR | http://instanttrap.com/ | Jun 19 15:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Instant Trap - It's A Trap! .::. Size~: 1.78 KB | Jun 19 15:29 |
| prurigro | "ex cia" | Jun 19 15:29 |
| prurigro | certainly not still cia | Jun 19 15:29 |
| formic_ | who knows | Jun 19 15:31 |
| formic_ | bin laden was "ex cia" | Jun 19 15:32 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 19 15:32 |
| MinceR | how do you know bin laden was _ex_ cia? :> | Jun 19 15:32 |
| *DaemonFC happens to think the CIA should be disbanded | Jun 19 15:33 | |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, they're listening... | Jun 19 15:33 |
| *DaemonFC LOVES THE CIA!!! | Jun 19 15:33 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 19 15:33 |
| prurigro | I know saddam hussein was ex cia, but was bin ladin? | Jun 19 15:34 |
| MinceR | dunno about that | Jun 19 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | if I could rearrange the federal government, the CIA, TSA, and ICE would be shut down | Jun 19 15:34 |
| MinceR | i think i've heard that the usa did fund him | Jun 19 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | and anything they were doing that was a legitimate law enforcement operation would be given to the FBI | Jun 19 15:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] noticed a scary #Android app - check the personal info permissions it wants http://goo.gl/op0nY | Jun 19 15:35 | |
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| prurigro | the Bush family is close to the Bin Ladin family, who are extremely rich-- I suppose they could have made monies together | Jun 19 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | the DHS itself would be shut down and the FBI would go back to being an independent agency | Jun 19 15:35 |
| DaemonFC | the only thing DHS seems to have done is all the same stuff that was being done before, only it adds a few billion dollars a year in overhead to put them all under the same parent agency | Jun 19 15:36 |
| formic_ | al qaeda was founded by the cia | Jun 19 15:36 |
| formic_ | they were used to fight the USSR during the cold war | Jun 19 15:37 |
| formic_ | in afghanistan | Jun 19 15:37 |
| prurigro | well technically, al qaeda never existed | Jun 19 15:37 |
| prurigro | and the name was definitely made up by the CIA | Jun 19 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | the Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, and US Marshals could all be shut down and integrated into the FBI as well | Jun 19 15:38 |
| formic_ | the people who participated were CIA trained | Jun 19 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | the NSA would be allowed to stay but it would be reigned in, and its primary purpose would be to help secure the general network infrastructure of the US government | Jun 19 15:39 |
| formic_ | http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/osamabinladen/ | Jun 19 15:40 |
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| iophk | formic_ if it's just questioning why don't they do it over the phone? He was in the country a while ago and left with their permission. | Jun 19 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | all land based nuclear weapons would be decommissioned and scrapped for things like reactor fuel for nuclear power plants | Jun 19 15:41 |
| iophk | formic_: http://notesonwikileaks.tumblr.com/post/15251907983/assange-extradition-fact-sheet | Jun 19 15:41 |
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| DaemonFC | they don't protect the country, they only make legitimate targets out of areas of the US that are close to civilian populations | Jun 19 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek indeed! xD | Jun 19 15:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @grmpyoldman Made me laugh at me, so i think you meant trolling | Jun 19 15:41 | |
| DaemonFC | so get rid of them | Jun 19 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | save a fortune in the process | Jun 19 15:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I am soo en-edge-ized after #lote it's just not proper. gotta wind down a bit. or... not. | Jun 19 15:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@JPBarlow @quinnnorton the obvious question is: does he want to face them... | Jun 19 15:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] BREAKING: Canada to join secretive #TPP negotiations https://eff.org/r.3adq | Jun 19 15:45 | |
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| iophk | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2012/06/special-edition-of-doom-3-launches-in-october/1 | Jun 19 15:48 |
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| iophk | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-install-doom3-game/ | Jun 19 15:48 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is sandersch from identi.ca with 53 dents! | Jun 19 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Nope uh uh…clearly there's no such thing as #ClimateChange —31 °C/41.9 Humidex normal 4 Ontario Spring #gotabridgeforsaleinBrooklyn !CDNpoli | Jun 19 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Thank you @nj3ma :) | Jun 19 15:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @eff BREAKING: Canada to join secretive #TPP negotiations https://eff.org/r.3adq | Jun 19 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Breaking from BBC Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador Embassy | Jun 19 15:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Why are we insisting on living the 19th C again?♻ @guardian: 1/2 of teachers forced to feed pupils going hungry at home ... | Jun 19 15:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @vvillenave @zach Well, in some way donating to the !FSF *is* a bet, a bet on the future of humanity. I'm sure _that_ is what they ha ... | Jun 19 15:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The patent system is broken. Let's create a system that defends innovation: http://ur1.ca/9j6jw #patentfail | Jun 19 16:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Join us now at our Ubuntu App Dev Q+A live at http://is.gd/oa5ieZ #ubuntu | Jun 19 16:06 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Any #Wordpress.com Wizards out there? I changed permalinks from "Default" http://libreleft.com/?p=123 to "Day and name" & now NOTHING works | Jun 19 16:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Oops I mean this is why you must write #RIND (Rind Is Not Deskelf.com) | Jun 19 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #Wordpress.org Wizards: HELP! I changed permalinks from "Default" http://libreleft.com/?p=123 to "Day and name" & now NOTHING works | Jun 19 16:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what is it with more and more #Android apps wanting access to confidential personal info & permission to spam your contacts w/o asking you? | Jun 19 16:18 | |
| formic_ | doom3 <3 | Jun 19 16:20 |
| formic_ | I want to see some games that use the doom3 engine | Jun 19 16:25 |
| formic_ | open source games | Jun 19 16:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] congrats to #England, winners of their group #ec2012 | Jun 19 16:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] UEFA referees mistakes at EU championship definitely will cause a discussion on using cameras in the future. I find this unbearable. | Jun 19 16:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Continuing the #wtfweek and #wtfday - Hosni #Mubarak had a stroke, and is in critical condition, apparently #jan25 | Jun 19 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pirate Bay Disarms BT Blockade Within Minutes http://goo.gl/1yQRk | Jun 19 16:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Microsoft Could Be Alienating Hardware Partners With New Tablets http://goo.gl/lSaRx | Jun 19 16:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Kodak sues #Apple for interfering in#patent portfolio sale http://goo.gl/wM6qI | Jun 19 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And again two teams make it to the next round that actually didn't deserve it. | Jun 19 16:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #StatCounter Blasts #Microsoft's Claim About #IE Still Being the Number 1 Browser http://goo.gl/Zzjq5 | Jun 19 16:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "be honest, because you always are" WTF? if he's always honest why tell him to be honest? #qualityreporters | Jun 19 16:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FBI & #DEA Warn That IPv6 May Be Too Damn Anonymous http://goo.gl/DbfPa sounds like the best reason to switch | Jun 19 16:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FBI & DEA Warn That IPv6 May Be Too Damn Anonymous | Techdirt .::. Size~: 71.62 KB | Jun 19 16:58 |
| oddpuck | they can deal with it | Jun 19 16:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Because We All Know What #Skype Was Missing Was #Intrusive Advertising, #Microsoft Has Decided To Add It http://goo.gl/tS9Y0 | Jun 19 17:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Because We All Know What Skype Was Missing Was Intrusive Advertising, Microsoft Has Decided To Add It | Techdirt .::. Size~: 123.82 KB | Jun 19 17:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "vacuum cleaner" - why would I need one? if it needs cleaning, it's obviously *not* vacuum... #BadPun | Jun 19 17:05 | |
| formic_ | oddpuck - who can deal with what | Jun 19 17:17 |
| oddpuck | fbi and dea can deal with ipv6 being maybe more anonymous than ipv4 | Jun 19 17:18 |
| formic_ | that makes no sense, its not more anonymous | Jun 19 17:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Canada to join Trans-Pacific trade talks - http://reut.rs/N5SCda note ridiculous figures for claimed benefits (v @publicknowledge) #TPP | Jun 19 17:18 | |
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| formic_ | its less anonymous | Jun 19 17:18 |
| formic_ | your ipv6 will include part of your mac | Jun 19 17:19 |
| formic_ | which can be traced to who built your computer/network card | Jun 19 17:19 |
| oddpuck | it was the headline of an article posted by the bot right above my comment | Jun 19 17:19 |
| formic_ | ohhhhhh! | Jun 19 17:20 |
| formic_ | I blocked the bots | Jun 19 17:20 |
| formic_ | too noisey | Jun 19 17:20 |
| oddpuck | ah | Jun 19 17:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Defend Innovation - clip software patents' wings - http://bit.ly/NO4ZAH a good start, but even more is needed... (v @webmink) | Jun 19 17:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @windigo It would violate American's privacy if NSA told how many American's privacy it violates: http://ur1.ca/9j6vs | Jun 19 17:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] "Start-Up Hopes to Create Free Digital [#CC] Versions of Published Books" by Chronicle of Higher Ed: http://bit.ly/MbGPup | Jun 19 17:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] David Lowery Wants A Pony - http://bit.ly/KKDffj what he said | Jun 19 17:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Start-Up Hopes to Create Free Digital Versions of Published Books - Wired Campus - The Chronicle of Higher Education .::. Size~: 64.33 KB | Jun 19 17:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Video: Virtualization Management the oVirt Way - bit.ly/McR0Pa | Jun 19 17:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @herrurbach: Mubarak was my first endboss. #telecomix #Tahrir | Jun 19 17:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @htgamal: Ahmad Shafiq, not to be outdone, announces that he himself had died days ago. | Jun 19 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sprachlos sei. http://ur1.ca/9j728 | Jun 19 17:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Wired's @dmkravets on Google's transparency report: Internet companies must tell us how much we're being surveilled: https://eff.org/r.a9dr | Jun 19 18:06 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open Letter to Internet Companies: Tell Us How Much We Are Being Surveilled | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 60.46 KB | Jun 19 18:06 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Johnathan Chung http://ur1.ca/9j76l | Jun 19 18:28 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Funny observation :P #Microsoft #surface .::. Size~: 135.54 KB | Jun 19 18:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Canada Must Read: C. D. Howe Institute Signals Ontario Mega Rich How to Revolt by @larryrusswurm http://www.ur1.ca/9ir1y !CDNpoli | Jun 19 18:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @kevingranade I'm so used to pdfs launching in an external application that I keep killing firefox now that it has an internal pdf re ... | Jun 19 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav Happy !Birthday Aung San Suu Kyi, General Secretary of the NLD in Burma, former political prisoner & !Nobel Peace Prize laureat ... | Jun 19 18:36 | |
| DaemonFC | "So you're saying that a tax system where people with 9)% of the money are only paying 38% of the taxes is unfair? I agree!" | Jun 19 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | -me, to a teabagger | Jun 19 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | *90 | Jun 19 18:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb So i have made up your panties, son, we're going home." #q | Jun 19 18:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Morreu o ex-presidente do Egipto, Hosni Mubarak | iOnline http://goo.gl/TIJBs | Jun 19 18:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] noite longa no emprego! a primeira de muitas…… | Jun 19 18:56 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] A Dysfunctional Family Ghost Story : Scary Things Lurk Under the Bed in 'Eerie' http://www.ur1.ca/9j7b7 ⇒review by @debbimack | Jun 19 18:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @x11r5 @thistleweb So i have made up your panties, son, we're going home." #q | Jun 19 18:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Garbage Warrior [Full Length Documentary] - YouTube http://goo.gl/9lyyY #preppers #docs | Jun 19 19:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Warrantless wiretapping bill heads to full vote in Congress despite opposition http://goo.gl/yU9ko #landofthefree | Jun 19 19:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] David Lowery Wants A Pony http://goo.gl/H4Lwo | Jun 19 19:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @fontana how about MIND? Mind Is Not Deskelf.com ;-) | Jun 19 19:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #CIA, #MI6 agents direct massacres in #Syria -- Sott.net http://goo.gl/X0Tk5 ; General Wesley Clark Reveals US Plan... http://ur1.ca/9j7j2 | Jun 19 19:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Samurai - Miyamoto Musashi Documentary (Mark Dacascos) - YouTube http://goo.gl/CIsok #docs | Jun 19 19:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] EFF Launches New Patent Reform Project to Defend Innovation http://ur1.ca/9j7jh | Jun 19 19:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Shaolin warrior training - YouTube http://goo.gl/hWjOe #martialarts #docs | Jun 19 20:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Want to abolish software patents? Tell us why. https://eff.org/r.a6ds #patentfail | Jun 19 20:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Way of the #Samurai - YouTube http://goo.gl/qshn4 #docs | Jun 19 20:21 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is *amazing* ... cave paintings viewed by flickering firelight are earliest animation ... http://youtu.be/x8exsw6yKXw !freeculture | Jun 19 20:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @linuxfoundation Video: Virtualization Management the oVirt Way - bit.ly/McR0Pa | Jun 19 21:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Defend Innovation - clip software patents' wings - http://bit.ly/NO4ZAH a good start, but even more is needed... (v @webmink) | Jun 19 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Canada to join Trans-Pacific trade talks - http://reut.rs/N5SCda note ridiculous figures for claimed benefits (v @publickn ... | Jun 19 21:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @sandersch 'Samsung coughs up source code for AT&T and T-Mobile Galaxy S IIIs' http://tinyurl.com/d7t3mqa !Android | Jun 19 21:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @laurelrusswurm This is *amazing* ... cave paintings viewed by flickering firelight are earliest animation ... http://youtu.be/x8exsw ... | Jun 19 21:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Belief In Hell Predicts a Country's Crime Rates Better Than Other Factors - Slashdot http://goo.gl/4ae1x #xfiles #studies | Jun 19 21:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Cat and mouse game between #Syria's activists and pro-Syrian-government hackers continues: https://eff.org/r.3adt w/ @headhntr | Jun 19 21:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] In-depth analysis of the new Trojan targeting #Syria's activists from @citizenlab https://eff.org/r.2adu | Jun 19 21:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Does !Canada trust Enbridge? BREAKING NEWS - 19 June: Enbridge Oil Spill of 230,000 Litres http://www.ur1.ca/9j820 !CDNpoli | Jun 19 21:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's possible to have ugly plastic people too, @whistlewright ... then too, survivors of excessive plastic surgery can be right scary | Jun 19 21:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] seriously @rms? VAGINA? That is as absurd as the Victorians making sure no one could see those risque table legs by dressing the furniture | Jun 19 22:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] a V-A-G-I-N-A is a body part frequently present in human females | Jun 19 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Listen to the mighty V-GINY!!!!! | Jun 19 22:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "What she said was…so offensive I don't even want to say it in front of women."~Rep. Mike Callton http://www.ur1.ca/9j887 < we HAVE vaginas | Jun 19 22:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I am just astounded. | Jun 19 22:38 | |
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| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: maybe if she called it her vajayjay, pussy or c word that would be fine. Like how most artists have no qualms calling the ladies female dogs. | Jun 19 22:59 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: or baby chickens | Jun 19 23:00 |
| Ziomatrix | Makes music like this more socially relevant, never mind the synthpop power puff girl sound the lyrics are spot on: http://bit.ly/KSgH7C | Jun 19 23:02 |
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| Ziomatrix | Funny only now I recognize one of the guys in that music video is from the Mighty Boosh | Jun 19 23:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Rep. Lisa Brown replaces Marilyn Monroe on the cover of my "Great Quotations" Pinterest Board http://www.ur1.ca/9j8ca #FreeSpeech #sexism | Jun 19 23:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I confess it would almost be worth crossing the border to see Brown perform "The Vagina Monologues" on the steps of the Capitol. #freeSpeech | Jun 19 23:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Australians Rally for Assange as he seeks asylum in Ecuador http://www.ur1.ca/9j8df !wikileaks #justice #kangaroocourt | Jun 19 23:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] "It's not the heat, its; the humidity…" It's 11:30 in Ontario…the temperature is down to 25.7 °C (78.3°F ) & the Humidex is 36.2°C (97.2°F) | Jun 19 23:30 | |
| DaemonFC | Ziomatrix: Brass knuckle censorship tactics are a favorite tool of the far right | Jun 19 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | they use them a lot to get left wing and independent political speech off the radio all the time | Jun 19 23:39 |
| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: funny I just thought radio was looked at as antiquated and heavily censored as is by moral folk even before they went full on political. | Jun 19 23:41 |
| DaemonFC | all that's left of AM radio is rich people freaking out about Obama wanting them to pay their taxes | Jun 19 23:41 |
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| Ziomatrix | DaemonFC: what about Opie and Anthony? Is there much on AM besides WABC? | Jun 19 23:54 |
| Ziomatrix | Anyway I think my time is up for today, Ill look forward to continue the chat soon. | Jun 19 23:59 |
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