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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Many are cold, but few are frozen" | Jun 21 00:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Dashboard Confessional - Saints and Sailors «from Places I Have come to fear the most» | Jun 21 00:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just reshared the lyrics to Sarah McLachlan's Fallen [2003] on Diaspora* Will post url shortly. | Jun 21 00:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] port knox. I like the sound of that. | Jun 21 00:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Khali Jonez - Room 16 #np | Jun 21 00:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Xtatic is just too good! | Jun 21 00:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@BoingBoing: G4S boss predicts mass privatisation of UK police forces http://t.co/MQyLVDBh" | Jun 21 00:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu Accomplishments 0.2: One Week Later - http://is.gd/461kkK #ubuntu | Jun 21 01:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Accomplishments 0.2: One Week Later | jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 28 KB | Jun 21 01:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] "LEGEA BIG BROTHER" a fost promulgată http://ur1.ca/9hi3m #romania #censorship #ue | Jun 21 01:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Class bummed. Yay! | Jun 21 01:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "LEGEA BIG BROTHER" a fost promulgată de Traian Băsescu. Ce informaţii vor stoca furnizorii de telefonie şi internet - Gandul .::. Size~: 71.13 KB | Jun 21 01:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] We all begin with good intent... | Jun 21 01:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Love was raw and young | Jun 21 01:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] We believed we could change ourselves... | Jun 21 01:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The past could be undone.. | Jun 21 01:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Firmele nu vor mai putea sa monitorizeze telefonul sau e-mailul angajatilor fara consimtamant http://ur1.ca/9jg62 #romania #censorship | Jun 21 01:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firmele nu vor mai putea sa monitorizeze telefonul sau e-mailul angajatilor fara consimtamantul acestora .::. Size~: 51.9 KB | Jun 21 01:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Listen to your books (ePUB or PDF) with Okular, KDE's PDF Reader http://ur1.ca/9jg6t #e-book #gnu #foss #linux #kde #okular #pdf | Jun 21 01:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@obeez: Two things to remember: Don't make decisions when you're angry, and don't make promises when you're happy." | Jun 21 01:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Listen to your books (ePUB or PDF) with Okular, KDE's PDF Reader .::. Size~: 52.8 KB | Jun 21 01:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents http://ur1.ca/9jg7d #eff #software #patent #law #rights | Jun 21 02:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 42.6 KB | Jun 21 02:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] uber COOL! http://www.sipml5.org/ /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai @mralanorth @nj3ma @flintsoul @dammim @evansonwachira | Jun 21 02:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Thunder made a mistake. Should have stayed big throughout the game. #game4 #nba | Jun 21 02:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Derek Fisher for Perkins was a strange substitution. #nba #okc #playoffs | Jun 21 02:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] cc @sergiodj ♻ @rsandu: Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents http://ur1.ca/9jg7d | Jun 21 02:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 42.37 KB | Jun 21 02:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94777676 http://identi.ca/notice/94777632 | Jun 21 02:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:58:29 UTC - Identi.ca: #assange is so badly daemonised (and wanted by Western plutocrats) that he needs to run away like an ex-Nazi officer.Truth the new "nazism"? | Jun 21 02:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:54:53 UTC - Identi.ca: #Ecuador offers #Wikileaks founder #Assange residency http://ur1.ca/9j7oj I doubt the world's boss (USA) will permit this | Jun 21 02:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Informed the tumehama.com Android app is shaping up nicely. | Jun 21 02:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94777241 http://identi.ca/notice/94777066 | Jun 21 02:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:19:21 UTC - Identi.ca: First Mandriva Foundation Meeting a Success http://ur1.ca/9jdsn #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 21 02:53 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:03:28 UTC - Identi.ca: #Fedora 17 Review (KDE & GNOME) http://ur1.ca/9jdqy #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 21 02:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/PGPBOARD/statuses/215589981748592640 | Jun 21 02:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / PGPBOARD: @schestowitz Offered in 20 .::. Size~: 101.33 KB | Jun 21 02:55 |
| schestowitz | "Offered in 2010 and then rapidly revoked... Nothing to do with current #assange situation... desperate spin and misinformation" | Jun 21 02:55 |
| scientes | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=23655 | Jun 21 03:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] #LibreOffice Conference supported by the German Federal Ministries of the Interior and of Economics and Technology: http://wp.me/p1byPE-i3 | Jun 21 03:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] As @robanskie , narrates his dreams from last night. Apparently we'd gone fishing. | Jun 21 03:16 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: LibreOffice Conference supported by the German Federal Ministries of the Interior and of Economics and Technology « The Document Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 47.69 KB | Jun 21 03:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@theQ_21: #ThoughtsAfterTheCondomPopped "well you see the way my bank account is set up...."" gnr! | Jun 21 03:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@Amayi_: Married people should worry less about who wears the pants in the relationship and more about why anyone wore pants at all." | Jun 21 03:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #Linux is a Winner http://ur1.ca/9jgrs | Jun 21 03:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1729328 | Jun 21 03:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is #Calligra A Great Alternative to LibreOffice? http://maketecheasier.com/is-calligra-a-great-alternative-to-libreoffice/2012/06/18 #kde #odf | Jun 21 03:50 |
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| schestowitz | flame war | Jun 21 03:50 |
| schestowitz | "Caligra seems to be nice, but it is a QT-based applications and that's a blocker for many people" | Jun 21 03:50 |
| schestowitz | "Qt is a blocker? It's sad people see it that way." | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | Not really. I can't speak for everyone, but to me it [sometimes] brings inconsistency across UI. It also brings new dependencies, and in QT case there are quite some dependencies ... | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | So using just that one QT app [or rather an office suite] requires installation of many KDE libraries. | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | PS got to try out Calligra on my other OS just to see how it works. I was affraid of dependency list, but I'll give it a go. | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | You know, dependencies don't bite, or eat your cat. | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | They're just packages, sitting in your hard drive. People nowadays have several GiB of RAM on their machines, and hundreds of GiB of hard drive storage, and still worry about installing... 100 MiB of packages? | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | Oh well, if people decide to ignore great software because they are "scared of dependencies", it's their loss. | Jun 21 03:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 03:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Copyright and pirates [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9jgsp speaks for the inadequacy of the term as ascribed to copyright infringement. | Jun 21 03:51 | |
| schestowitz | "i tried it but didn't really like it" | Jun 21 03:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Copyright terrorism"? | Jun 21 03:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wikipedia suggests that, based on its logs, Windows usage declines by about half a percent every month. #android and #gnu #linux do well. | Jun 21 03:51 | |
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| schestowitz | "@JanKusanagi - I hear you. Well, I'm just a minimalist who doesn't like to mess with too many stuff, but as I said I'd try Calligra anyway." | Jun 21 03:52 |
| schestowitz | "I will test it when I will have time. For now I'm glad with LibreOffice." | Jun 21 03:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 03:52 |
| schestowitz | I've already tested it. Actually, it doesn't suit my need, although it's not that bad ;) I have only one problem: Calligra doesn't open ODT documents in same way as LibreOffice does. It moves the whole content few lines down, so it is not identical to what LO shows. I don't have to say ODT is a standard. It should be looking the same everywhere." | Jun 21 03:52 |
| schestowitz | "Oh it's a problem for me because I use the ODT format and not want lost time to convert all just for use it with a other software." | Jun 21 03:52 |
| schestowitz | "@Stef20 - don't get me wrong. It does open ODT files, but they look a little bit different. I don't know the actual cause. It may be different font formatting. I am - by no means - an expert when it comes to office suits." | Jun 21 03:52 |
| schestowitz | "Sorry if I read you bad, I will try it when I will have time." | Jun 21 03:53 |
| schestowitz | "@Stef20 - it's my fault. I'm being grumpy about Calligra, where in fact it is a nice office suit. It is just not my cup of tea ;)" | Jun 21 03:53 |
| schestowitz | "It's me read to fast when the english is not my language is better take my time :-D" | Jun 21 03:53 |
| schestowitz | "Well, it's not my native language either. ;) so don't worry. We all make many mistakes." | Jun 21 03:53 |
| schestowitz | "@exn: the problem is not that Calligra has QT dependencies. The problem are the really bloaty KDE libs which are needed. A system using only ONE framework looks nice but is hard to achieve if you decide choosing your own applications. AND you can get a quite consistent user interface if you use the QGTKStyle engine for Qt." | Jun 21 03:53 |
| schestowitz | "It won't save to .doc format. Like it or not, that IS the standard text document format for almost everyone, and as a result this is probably dead in the water already. Shame, because it might have been good." | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | @penguinized - I know. I also used this GTKQT style. | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | @Ancient - really? my default document format is odt and I can open it under every odt-compatible application, not just one ;) | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | Besides - my friends use ODT too. Oh, and I can send them PDF with embedded ODT, so they can edit it later if they wish ... | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | Word has problems opening documents created in previous versions. Now, that's a standard! | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | "Best way to improve Calligra ODF support is to send them files that break it. They cry out for these things at [ODF Plugfests](http://odfplugfest.org/). If you suffer a problem, at least let it contribute to the solution." | Jun 21 03:54 |
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| schestowitz | "@Sam Tuke - If something shows differently in Libre Office and in Calligra, which do you submit the bug to?" | Jun 21 03:54 |
| schestowitz | qt oughtn't be a turnoff, it makes cross-platform east. | Jun 21 03:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: It's 2016, and Chrome OS is ascendant http://ur1.ca/9jgtx a #linux with antifeatures | Jun 21 04:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: It's 2016, and Chrome OS is ascendant - Computerworld .::. Size~: 141.33 KB | Jun 21 04:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dell #linux is getting pretty big http://ur1.ca/9jguj (Dell to bring Ubuntu laptops to 850 retail stores in India) | Jun 21 04:01 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Dell to bring Ubuntu laptops to 850 retail stores in India - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 49.8 KB | Jun 21 04:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] liveblogging of #INTA session by @Falkvinge - http://bit.ly/Mulfna live stream here: mms://livewms.europarl.europa.eu/reflector:30173 #ACTA | Jun 21 04:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Legea supravegherii Internetului: cine sunt cei 197? http://ur1.ca/9jgv6 #romania #censorship #bigbrother #politics #vote | Jun 21 04:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wipro launches desktop PC for SMBs with #gnu #linux preinalled http://ur1.ca/9jgvc #india #wipro | Jun 21 04:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Legea supravegherii Internetului: cine sunt cei 197? | Blogul lui Răzvan .::. Size~: 91.19 KB | Jun 21 04:05 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] G'Morning to you too @inscius, !tzag !identiverse | Jun 21 04:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Nokias flagship, the Lumia 900, will not get an update on Windows Phone 8? Seems Microsofts partnership with Nokia ... http://b1t.it/bEo4 | Jun 21 04:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - So Nokias flagship, the Lumia 900, will not get an update… .::. Size~: 131.69 KB | Jun 21 04:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1732191 | Jun 21 04:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rsandu@joindiaspora.com: ## Legea supravegherii Internetului: cine sunt cei 197? http://ur1.ca/9jgv6 #romania #censorship #bigbrother #politics #vote | Jun 21 04:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by rsandu@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_d41010a5de7dba4abda3.jpg | Jun 21 04:09 |
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| schestowitz | English explanation might help | Jun 21 04:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Openaccess may require funds to be rationed - http://bit.ly/NbXAFl sounds like new #FUD to me... (v @RickyPo) | Jun 21 04:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora #Linux 18 Set to Redefine the Initial User Experience http://ur1.ca/9jgxd #gnu #redhat | Jun 21 04:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright Ratchet In Action Again: UK Introduces Yet Another Unjustified Extension - http://bit.ly/M893aS evidence, what's that? | Jun 21 04:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Copyright Ratchet In Action Again: UK Introduces Yet Another Unjustified Extension | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.32 KB | Jun 21 04:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Humble Team Responds to The Petition Filed by Linux Users http://ur1.ca/9jgxu #games #gnu #linux | Jun 21 04:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Humble Team Responds to The Petition Filed by Linux Users ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates .::. Size~: 225.28 KB | Jun 21 04:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Fights to Save 3,054 Languages - http://on.mash.to/MMSEG8 really important stuff - kudos #linguistics | Jun 21 04:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help test Ubuntu for Android - http://bit.ly/Nc0fyK an offer you can't refuse (if you live in #london) | Jun 21 04:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMP 2.8 on Linux: a Story of Pride and Pain http://ur1.ca/9jgzk #gnu #linux | Jun 21 04:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And this goes all the way up to 11! ;) ♻ @jerezim: Some votes go 15 to 14... #ACTA vote is going to be very close... #INTA | Jun 21 04:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@IgorOstrowski PL współprzewodnicym Kongresu UNESCO dot. otwartych zasobów edukacyjnych #oercongress Za chwilę prezentacja Cyfrowej Szkoły | Jun 21 04:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: RT if you hope to take a holiday in #Ecuador if #Assange is granted asylum there. Tourist dollars YES! US economic blackmail NO! | Jun 21 04:38 | |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com.au/bt-blocks-pirate-bay-in-uk-to-no-avail-339340073.htm | Jun 21 04:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BT blocks Pirate Bay in UK to no avail - Business - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 121.94 KB | Jun 21 04:41 |
| iophk | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18518777 | Jun 21 04:42 |
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| iophk | "Our internet policy is not being run by our elected representatives, it is being dictated by the music industry." | Jun 21 04:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9jh1f | Jun 21 04:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - liveblogging of #INTA session by @Falkvinge-… .::. Size~: 134.6 KB | Jun 21 04:43 |
| schestowitz | iophk: exactly | Jun 21 04:44 |
| iophk | Even the term 'music industry' is a misnomer. The parties involved have precious little with the actual creation of music. | Jun 21 04:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BT bends obver to #MAFIAA http://ur1.ca/9jh1o what about #Linux torrents? | Jun 21 04:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BT blocks Pirate Bay in UK to no avail - Business - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 121.92 KB | Jun 21 04:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Our internet policy is not being run by our elected representatives, it is being dictated by the music industry." http://ur1.ca/9jh1x | Jun 21 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA additional voter - representing non-aligned...not sure what this means in practice... #ACTA | Jun 21 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Office net today is slow! just when I needed to update brand new !fedora + !ghostbsd installs, guess it's Fedora today, GhostBSD tomorrow | Jun 21 04:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The "music industry." did not call for a ban on TPB. It's the *recording* industry (distribution middlemen) that did this to exploit better | Jun 21 04:46 | |
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| schestowitz | "too bad Shuttleworth seems to have never discovered/funded GIMPShop development... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop#" http://www.sutor.com/c/2012/06/testing-wordpress-3-4s-new-twitter-integration/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BobSutor+%28Bob+Sutor%29 | Jun 21 04:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] huh? | Jun 21 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] last dent directed @sandersch | Jun 21 04:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "ties between businessmen and the government influence the economy and society to the extent that it corrupts" http://ur1.ca/9jh28 | Jun 21 04:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ACTA vote in INTA will be 14:14 as it seems. Industry lobby in front of room with banners. Hollywood in Brussels. | Jun 21 04:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kto nie skacze - ten za !ACTA! Komisja INTA będzie głosować nad ACTA w ciągu najbliższych minut. !copyfraud | Jun 21 04:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Karen and Runa answers questions on @Reddit: https://pay.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/vdhs8/hi_iama_we_are_core_members_of_the_tor_project/ | Jun 21 05:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Via @falkvinge live blog on ACTA in INTA:"10:36 - The list of amendments on the still-upcoming ACTA vote is here, in L... http://b1t.it/bEqJ | Jun 21 05:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Via @falkvinge live blog on ACTA in INTA: "10:36 - The… .::. Size~: 130.69 KB | Jun 21 05:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @torproject Karen and Runa answers questions on @Reddit: http://ur1.ca/9jh9c ... | Jun 21 05:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Google Fights to Save 3,054 Languages - http://on.mash.to/MMSEG8 really important stuff - kudos #linguistics | Jun 21 05:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] INTA up from 27 to now 31 voters. ACTA last vote. Should happen next few minutes. All amendments MUST fail in order to get a rejection. | Jun 21 05:28 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 21 05:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA vote in #INTA happening now... | Jun 21 05:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA vote on decision to postpone - against - yes | Jun 21 05:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA -there were 32 votes - call for recount | Jun 21 05:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA revote on postponement - still rejected #ACTA | Jun 21 05:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA vote to adopt recommendation to reject #ACTA | Jun 21 05:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA - I don't think I'm going to survive another one of these nailbiting sessions.... #INTA | Jun 21 05:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] INTA recommends a REJECTION of #ACTA, rejecting the attempt to postpone by a 19-12 vote! WE WON! | Jun 21 05:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@jerezim @teirdes @telecomix @panoptykon @EDRi_org and many, many others - thank you. This is a glorious day. | Jun 21 05:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] White space and it's possible effect on broadband in #Kenya http://ur1.ca/9jhbr | Jun 21 05:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @wtebbens We won!!! The EC's #INTA just voted to recommend the rejection of #ACTA. <3 #lqdn and #freeculture movement!! !fk | Jun 21 05:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #INTA vote to adopt recommendation to reject #ACTA | Jun 21 05:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@DesignKenya: "Anything that is too stupid to be spoken is sung." ~ Voltaire #WordToKapukaArtists" | Jun 21 05:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Not one person in the committee was able to put forward a position in favour of # ACTA." - http://bit.ly/PyGu7y says it all #INTA | Jun 21 06:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] If my math is right, there were 13 MEPs from pro-acta groups; 1 voted against !ACTA. Thank you, Mr Zalewski! :) !poland | Jun 21 06:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA almost dead after latest body blow from Europe | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 55.6 KB | Jun 21 06:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Freie Software !fs Raspberry Pi hilft Drohne bei Rettungsmissionen http://ur1.ca/9jhie | Jun 21 06:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Surface vs. iPad: Microsoft's Getting Rusty Stealing from Apple" - http://ur1.ca/9jhiq #fb #in lol! | Jun 21 06:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody "Not one person in the committee was able to put forward a position in favour of # ACTA." - http://bit.ly/PyGu7y says it a ... | Jun 21 06:23 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA almost dead after latest body blow from Europe | ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 55.6 KB | Jun 21 06:24 |
| MinceR | "stealing from apple" -- yet another one who hasn't heard of tablet pcs before the hypepad | Jun 21 06:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Victory! INTA in chaos. We won! | Jun 21 06:28 | |
| iophk | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-20/yahoo-says-executive-vice-president-rich-riley-will-depart-1-.html | Jun 21 06:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@panoptykon Not quite. EPP+ECR = 15 votes while ALDE + Greens + NI = 16. It means not only Mr Zalewski and Mr Szymański were against !ACTA! | Jun 21 06:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] INTA adopts vote against ACTA. De Gucht did not get his postponement. Parliament will vote in plenary. | Jun 21 06:38 | |
| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/28/magazine/the-way-we-live-now-9-28-03-questions-for-linus-torvalds-the-sharer.html | Jun 21 06:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hacker Group Demands "Idiot Tax" From Payday Lender http://goo.gl/vj5nK | Jun 21 06:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I'll leave it here, though bit.ly/L7mmFk #Microsoft #Apple !lol | Jun 21 06:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Google To Pay $0 To #Oracle In Copyright Case http://goo.gl/knkS8 not exactly the whopping win @fosspatents was pimping as #justice | Jun 21 06:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Copyright Ratchet In Action Again: UK Introduces Yet Another Unjustified Extension http://goo.gl/u5p8k | Jun 21 06:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Poland! My hero! Via @falkvinge: "12:10 - EPP: It appears that the Polish EPP delegates voted against ACTA, breaking party lines." | Jun 21 07:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The coming revolution in STM #scholpub - http://bit.ly/M8YwOU long, important post analysing this area #openaccess | Jun 21 07:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - The coming revolution in STM #scholpub « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 26.22 KB | Jun 21 07:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Communications Bill Creates Dangerous Database - http://bit.ly/LEN49s another big battle we must win #surveillance | Jun 21 07:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] FTR, it was 11:35 when INTA voted and thus adopted the rejection of ACTA. Again via @falkvinge:"11:35 - The recommenda... http://b1t.it/bEsV | Jun 21 07:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - FTR, it was 11:35 when INTA voted and thus adopted the… .::. Size~: 127.65 KB | Jun 21 07:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Copyright and pirates [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9jgsp speaks for the inadequacy of the term as ascribed to copyright infringement. | Jun 21 07:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@Asher_Wolf "In the end it came down to vote on IP or civil liberties and I'm glad that civil liberties won over" MEP David Martin on !ACTA | Jun 21 07:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @zack RT @planetdebian Matthew Garrett: Ubuntu ODM UEFI requirements for secure boot - http://ur1.ca/9j4hg | Jun 21 07:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: mjg59 | Ubuntu ODM UEFI requirements for secure boot .::. Size~: 68.59 KB | Jun 21 07:40 |
| formic_ | Interesting Ubuntu. | Jun 21 07:58 |
| iophk | Does that mean that one has to choose between, for example, Ubuntu XOR Fedora and not able to have dual boot? | Jun 21 08:01 |
| MinceR | can this uefi train wreck ship with multiple keys? | Jun 21 08:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer FTR, it was 11:35 when INTA voted and thus adopted the rejection of ACTA. Again via @falkvinge:"11:35 - The recommenda... ... | Jun 21 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jgbarah More on the Defend Innovation campaign: EFF should call for the elimination of #swpatents http://ur1.ca/9jg7d | Jun 21 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] JBoss Developer Studio 5 GA is OUT, together with JBoss Tools 3.3 Release blog: http://bit.ly/MGT9VD. Nice. #in | Jun 21 08:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @planetdebian Matthew Garrett: Ubuntu ODM UEFI requirements for secure boot - http://ur1.ca/9j4hg | Jun 21 08:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Your Genome, Your Data - http://bit.ly/KVYfuM are we ready for the other digital revolution? I think not... #privacy #dna | Jun 21 08:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Enrique Gutierrez http://ur1.ca/9ji7t | Jun 21 08:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Doubling down: FunnyJunk lawyer to subpoena Ars, Twitter - http://bit.ly/PzFqQQ </facepalm> | Jun 21 08:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Who in Berlin would join me for a beer this evening? Friedrichshain preferred. | Jun 21 08:48 | |
| iophk | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3365466/breaking-news-european-parliament-trade-committee-recommends-rejecting-acta-treaty/ | Jun 21 08:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Breaking news: European Parliament trade committee recommends rejecting ACTA treaty - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 96.79 KB | Jun 21 08:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Update XIX - http://bit.ly/KW3U46 so we won #INTA: now it's the big one - the plenary vote on 4 July - we can do it | Jun 21 09:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WE ACCIDENTALLY !ACTA, IS THAT SERIOUS?! !memes !copyfraud !lol | Jun 21 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] By the size of festivities on Teh Intertubes today, after !ACTA gets killed good in July, there will be dancing in the streets. | Jun 21 09:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @AnonyOps: Much #datalove to over 9000 #Anonymous who helped take #ACTA down. You know who you are, even if we don't. Final vote July 4. | Jun 21 09:17 | |
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| iophk | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120616/02302019360/acta-not-dead-yet-supporters-make-final-push-eu-approval-may-seek-secret-ballot.shtml | Jun 21 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA Not Dead Yet: Supporters Make Final Push For EU Approval, May Seek Secret Ballot | Techdirt .::. Size~: 90.62 KB | Jun 21 09:26 |
| iophk | A little older but still a concern. | Jun 21 09:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Massive Gold Trove Sparks Archeological Dispute - http://bit.ly/Mlxzqt fascinating (v @izakaminska) #de | Jun 21 09:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #kim_dotcom + #woz - http://bit.ly/L7Lo75 that's an image and a half... | Jun 21 09:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ICANN is wrong - http://bit.ly/Mlz0VK "These things shouldn't be #TLDs, they're too important, too basic to life." | Jun 21 09:47 | |
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| iophk | A case missing in WIner's article is what happens when two trademarks from two different industry's collide. For example, there is Apple records and Apple inc (formerly Apple Computer). | Jun 21 09:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eric #Whitacre: Complete Recordings on #Spotify - http://bit.ly/MxuRM0 everybody's favourite accessible modernist | Jun 21 09:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "EPP still hopes to make #ACTA a good agreement through changes or additional protocols" - http://bit.ly/KPdLxi NB: this is their strategy | Jun 21 10:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unprecedented Vote: EU Parliament Trade Committee Rejects ACTA | Intellectual Property Watch .::. Size~: 43.12 KB | Jun 21 10:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Penguin brings e-books back to NYC libraries - http://bit.ly/LiFHd1 "Each e-book will expire after a year" - literature no longer immortal | Jun 21 10:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “If we can set a goal to sequence the human genome for $99, then why not $99 for scholarly publishing?" - http://bit.ly/MC1yWt quite | Jun 21 10:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Science as an open enterprise - http://bit.ly/Mvzd8n #royalsociety report; not read it yet...anyone? (v @michael_nielsen) #openscience | Jun 21 10:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Drone dogfights by 2015? U.S. Navy preps for futuristic combat - http://cnet.co/NYmf6a I'm amazed we haven't heard more about this | Jun 21 10:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Drone dogfights by 2015? U.S. Navy preps for futuristic combat | Road Trip - CNET News .::. Size~: 102.61 KB | Jun 21 10:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hello @Kevie I am back now. | Jun 21 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Jun 21 10:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #OpenAccess strategy wars - http://bit.ly/MlEksn yes, we are entering the big pushback. needed: a counter-push... | Jun 21 10:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Just found out how to pronounce #JIRA | Jun 21 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Warlord: Chechnya's Boss-for-Life Joins Twitter - http://bit.ly/LF3E9h bizarre | Jun 21 10:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: #Warlord: Chechnya's Boss-for-Life Joins Twitter | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 59.8 KB | Jun 21 10:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jumping Off The Burning Platform: #Nokia Knew It Was Stuck On WP7 When It Signed On - http://tcrn.ch/KB1KdA class action on its way? | Jun 21 10:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] I covet this so much: http://ur1.ca/8diif | Jun 21 10:48 | |
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| iophk | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304898704577480340752531300.html | Jun 21 10:53 |
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| iophk | http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-meltemi-survivors-suggest-axed-os-was-nearly-ready-21235076/ | Jun 21 10:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Activists Coordinated European Opposition to #ACTA - http://bit.ly/LHiAIA good summary with lots of links #EU | Jun 21 11:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I will be at Café 100wasser from 19:30 in case someone wants to join. #berlin #evangelfest | Jun 21 11:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @guido RT @jerezim Let's aim for this long-awaited victory and build our post-ACTA world! But let's celebrate first! http://ur1.ca/9j ... | Jun 21 11:10 | |
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| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406125,00.asp | Jun 21 11:12 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody Jumping Off The Burning Platform: #Nokia Knew It Was Stuck On WP7 When It Signed On - http://tcrn.ch/KB1KdA class action o ... | Jun 21 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am hoping for a management buy-out and the return of Linux at Nokia. Yes, I am a dreamer. But I hate watching how th... http://b1t.it/bExS | Jun 21 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Jumping Off The Burning Platform: #Nokia Knew It Was Stuck On WP7 When It Signed On - http://tcrn.ch/KB1KdA class action on it | Jun 21 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Having fun these days discovering the Swiss music scene a little. Really like this as the summer song: http://is.gd/nRdYeh | Jun 21 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Now off to UK to meet and reward EU's top tech talent @techallstars #foundersforum http://p.ost.im/p/eckAL9 | Jun 21 11:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Quoting @eurohumph MT @Lionelsola: wonder why #EU institutions need #socialmedia? Read @Guardian on @Digita http://p.ost.im/p/ecUywJ | Jun 21 11:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @opencorporates: Reminder: our report, The Closed World of EU Company Data, is available (CC-licence) at http://p.ost.im/p/ecktaT | Jun 21 11:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: "Science as an open enterprise" #RoyalSociety report published http://t.co/3I172eoH, welcomed in a @NeelieK http://p.ost.im/p/ecScKs | Jun 21 11:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: time for a coffee w broadband hero @cyberdoyle #b4rn http://t.co/DIC4AY02 http://p.ost.im/p/ecNQU4 | Jun 21 11:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @sixtus: Danke für die klaren Worte zum #Leistungsschutzrecht, @DoroBaer. #lsr http://t.co/PHtkAYTF http://p.ost.im/p/evwnaw | Jun 21 11:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #ACTA agreement is rejected by #INTA - http://bit.ly/L86z92 important moment capture for posterity (v @dozykraut) #pix | Jun 21 11:33 | |
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| iophk | http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/pressroom/content/20120614IPR46889/html/Parliament-should-say-NO-to-ACTA-says-International-Trade-Committee | Jun 21 11:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The big loser of today's INTA vote against ACTA is commissioner Karel de Gucht. He is now on his own in defending ACTA... http://b1t.it/bEyq | Jun 21 11:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ai Weiwei: to live your life in fear is worse than losing your freedom http://goo.gl/VeZFa | Jun 21 11:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ai Weiwei: to live your life in fear is worse than losing your freedom | Ai Weiwei | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 212.41 KB | Jun 21 11:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] NEWS: #linuxconNA and #cloudopen programs announced! Torvalds tops lists of confirmed speakers: http://bit.ly/KPrlkl #linux #linuxnews | Jun 21 11:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It seems the ACTA vote in EUPARL in 10 days will be followed by vote on unitary patent. Software patents will come with that. Stay alert! | Jun 21 11:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fifth EU Committee Recommends Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament - http://bit.ly/NdnnwS all the thrills & spills of the day #INTA | Jun 21 11:57 | |
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| formic_ | msb_ http://www.dhmo.org/ | Jun 21 12:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Just tested #Vimium (#Chromium plugin for #Vim users): First tests look good. http://ur1.ca/50em9 | Jun 21 12:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @guido !euro2012fs quarter final: #France vs. #Germany http://ur1.ca/9jj3e !fsfe !gnu !faif | Jun 21 12:02 | |
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| formic_ | dangers of dihydrogen monoxide | Jun 21 12:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9jj6x | Jun 21 12:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Aah, back in Warsaw Hackerspace, winrar. I missed those sick basterds. :) | Jun 21 12:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Audioblog Post | A Matter Of Honour http://fwd4.me/13nZ #fb #politics #religion | Jun 21 12:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jxself: Good news everyone! European Parliament recommends rejecting #acta: http://ur1.ca/9jjdt !fsf | Jun 21 12:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @sandersch: It's a quarter to #STOPACTA. Good evening #Diaspora & !Identiverse http://b1t.it/bEzl | Jun 21 12:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Defensive #Knives for Women - YouTube http://goo.gl/EPJl5 #edc #preppers | Jun 21 12:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey @thesoul tarao! xD | Jun 21 12:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Defensive Knives for Women - YouTube .::. Size~: 120.73 KB | Jun 21 12:48 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Hypocrisy Of Congress: As Big A Threat To The Internet As The UN They're Condemning http://goo.gl/jv0X7 | Jun 21 12:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Hypocrisy Of Congress: As Big A Threat To The Internet As The UN They're Condemning | Techdirt .::. Size~: 41.46 KB | Jun 21 12:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] more novel length titles from #TechDirt - not going to edit to dent | Jun 21 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Please join us in fighting for an open cloud. @amcpherson blogs: http://bit.ly/KPz6Xp #linux #cloudopen #cloud #oss | Jun 21 12:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Celebrating #ACTABeGone in Berlin, 19:30 at café 100wasser. Join if u want! Cc @aprica @netzpolitik #evangelfest | Jun 21 12:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Thorsten Leemhuis http://ur1.ca/9jjgs | Jun 21 13:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - RHEL 6.3 is out .::. Size~: 132.15 KB | Jun 21 13:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] my tablet wallpaper http://goo.gl/IPlTG #NSFW language #PulpFiction - hard to get a good wallpaper that works on both axis | Jun 21 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from AJ Ogaard http://ur1.ca/9jjj5 | Jun 21 13:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - You Rock! .::. Size~: 137.12 KB | Jun 21 13:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Can Apple refuse to sell a laptop to an Iranian citizen? The answer is complicated. https://eff.org/r.a8dy | Jun 21 13:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Can Apple Refuse to Sell a Laptop to an Iranian Citizen? Maybe. | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 42.41 KB | Jun 21 13:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #ACTABeGone. Heute ein König :-) http://ur1.ca/9jjni | Jun 21 13:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] aí tem o cara que tem tão pouca autoridade que não manda nem e-mail: é o programa de e-mail que manda, ele só obedece | Jun 21 13:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] falar em piada sem graça, a tradução correta para tweet é piada, é? | Jun 21 13:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Why We're Fighting for an Open Cloud (Linux.com) http://ur1.ca/9jjpk | Jun 21 13:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @marcelobranco: Alguém tem + info se rolou o pregão direcionado da @Caixa Federal 116/7066-2012 onde única concorrente é a Microsoft? | Jun 21 13:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Twitter is down. Assange must be leaving the embassy. #conspiracyFan | Jun 21 13:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Kirill Grouchnikov http://ur1.ca/9jjrn | Jun 21 13:48 | |
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| iophk | The Osborne Effect striking: https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228325/WP8_won_t_run_on_current_Windows_Phone_a_problem_for_Nokia_ | Jun 21 13:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WP8 won't run on current Windows Phone, a problem for Nokia - Computerworld .::. Size~: 140.33 KB | Jun 21 13:50 |
| iophk | Not that VistaPhone8 is much of an improvement. | Jun 21 13:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Twitter is back. Where is Assange? | Jun 21 13:53 | |
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| MinceR | http://hijinksensue.com/comics/2012-06-19-surface-tension.jpg | Jun 21 14:00 |
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| MinceR | (except m$ didn't invent that either...) | Jun 21 14:00 |
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| formic_ | that guy looks like someone who scams users with ad revenue | Jun 21 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] U can show your support for #opencloud w/ "Fight for an Open Cloud" web badge or FB, Google+ profile pics: http://bit.ly/KPHEO3 | Jun 21 14:02 | |
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| MinceR | surprise, he is | Jun 21 14:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] On my way to Café 100wasser. #berlin #evangelfest #ACTABeGone | Jun 21 14:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The Oatmeal creator is fighting a bizarre lawsuit targeting his online speech. EFF is on it. https://eff.org/r.4adz | Jun 21 14:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Suffocates the Free Software Foundation (FSF) http://ur1.ca/9jd55 #gnu #linux #foss #software #censorship | Jun 21 14:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94790722 http://identi.ca/notice/94793522 | Jun 21 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Bijan (bijan)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-12 09:09:30 UTC - Identi.ca: it's simple caused by lack of user experience/knowledge i guess ;) | Jun 21 14:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-12 11:19:50 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz: Copyright and pirates [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9jgsp speaks for the inadequacy of the term as ascribed to copyright infringement. | Jun 21 14:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Final Europarl Committee Rejects ACTA: Internet-Lobbyists, 5-0. http://ur1.ca/9jjdt #acta #cronycapitalism | Jun 21 14:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Red Hat increases revenue by 19 per cent - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/50EhI #gnulinux | Jun 21 14:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.3 released with improved virtualisation - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/7K2yO | Jun 21 14:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Red Hat increases revenue by 19 per cent - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 47.61 KB | Jun 21 14:12 |
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| iophk | The ACTA 'defeats' are so far only recommendations, the real vote comes up on 4 July: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/21/acta-europe-vote-against | Jun 21 14:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Acta set to fail after Europe's trade committee votes against it | Technology | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 109.17 KB | Jun 21 14:12 |
| iophk | That's when the decision counts. | Jun 21 14:12 |
| schestowitz | th of July | Jun 21 14:13 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 21 14:13 |
| schestowitz | 4th | Jun 21 14:13 |
| iophk | Ironic | Jun 21 14:13 |
| schestowitz | wouldn't THAT be ironic | Jun 21 14:13 |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Jun 21 14:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Listen to your books (ePUB or PDF) with Okular, KDE's PDF Reader http://ur1.ca/9jg6t #Okular #KDE | Jun 21 14:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @chokepointproject Great Q&A with Karen and Runa from @torproject right now on @Reddit - check it out at http://ur1.ca/9iubn | Jun 21 14:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Adobe launches an open source and web standards portal - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/SCkYS and it's not April 1st ;) | Jun 21 14:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Listen to your books (ePUB or PDF) with Okular, KDE's PDF Reader .::. Size~: 52.74 KB | Jun 21 14:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: I Am A, where the mundane becomes fascinating and the outrageous suddenly seems normal. .::. Size~: 89.45 KB | Jun 21 14:13 |
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| iophk | "We're very excited about today's decision, but it's not over yet." | Jun 21 14:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Canonical proposes alternate #UEFI Secure Boot solution - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/Mz0t4 #gnulinux | Jun 21 14:15 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical proposes alternate UEFI Secure Boot solution - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 48.88 KB | Jun 21 14:15 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @parlementum In it’s latest desperate move to catch up with !parlementum, Twitter announces a (for now) limited expansion of the twee ... | Jun 21 14:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I advocate anti-harassment policies against men too http://ur1.ca/9jjyd agreeing with Meeks | Jun 21 14:18 | |
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| XFaCE | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-proposes-alternate-UEFI-Secure-Boot-solution-1623134.html | Jun 21 14:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Canonical proposes alternate UEFI Secure Boot solution - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 48.85 KB | Jun 21 14:21 |
| XFaCE | wow, they are actually beating red hat in this regard | Jun 21 14:21 |
| XFaCE | jono: Congrats on hitting one out of the park | Jun 21 14:21 |
| formic_ | XFaCE: did you hear about the hungarian submarine screen door? | Jun 21 14:22 |
| formic_ | don't laugh, it keeps the fish out | Jun 21 14:22 |
| XFaCE | ... | Jun 21 14:22 |
| XFaCE | *crickets* | Jun 21 14:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting Coffee = Sexual Harassment? http://ur1.ca/9jjzn http://ur1.ca/9jjzo | Jun 21 14:25 | |
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| jono | XFaCE, :-) | Jun 21 14:26 |
| sebsebseb | jono: uh why doesn't Canonical try to get a general key, for all Linux distros? | Jun 21 14:28 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: seems Canonical's key is Ubuntu only | Jun 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | they they not just negotiate? | Jun 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | And some devs merely discussed options? | Jun 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Unless i missed something, I read only two articles about Canonical and UEFI | Jun 21 14:28 |
| jono | sebsebseb, I don't know | Jun 21 14:28 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure CCanonical will do the right thing | Jun 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | And not sell out like Red Hat did | Jun 21 14:29 |
| jono | schestowitz Red Hat didnt sell out | Jun 21 14:29 |
| jono | they are trying to handle the best of a bad situation | Jun 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | they did actaully | Jun 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | they failed | Jun 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | they chose the worse | Jun 21 14:29 |
| schestowitz | for the common population | Jun 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Jun 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Was at a friend all day today... | Jun 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | He played that FLOSS Weekly interview | Jun 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Which reminded me of how you said Novell did hurt the community at large | Jun 21 14:30 |
| jono | schestowitz what other options do Red Hat have? | Jun 21 14:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Valve Picks Up Another Key Linux Developer http://ur1.ca/9j8il good sign, they must be quite serious | Jun 21 14:30 | |
| MinceR | formic_: hungary can't afford submarines | Jun 21 14:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: [Phoronix] Valve Picks Up Another Key Linux Developer .::. Size~: 19.78 KB | Jun 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | It's OK to say so when Red Hat does it too | Jun 21 14:30 |
| schestowitz | It's not like a faithhead cursing religion | Jun 21 14:30 |
| jono | Red Hat doesn't hurt the community | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | jono: antitrust is one option | Jun 21 14:31 |
| jono | I don't agree with some of their actions, but Red Hat are good contributors | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat did hurt by helping the UEFI agenda, see my posts | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I'm not alone | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Sam, Carla, others agree | Jun 21 14:31 |
| jono | schestowitz I disgree | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Some devs were appalled | Jun 21 14:31 |
| jono | Sam who? | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Vargehse | Jun 21 14:31 |
| jono | Sam Varghese? | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Good journalst | Jun 21 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Not for you | Jun 21 14:31 |
| jono | I don't give a crap what that idiot thinks | Jun 21 14:31 |
| jono | he isnt a journalist | Jun 21 14:32 |
| jono | not in my mind | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Cause he doesn't drink Canonical's Kool-Aide | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | OK | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Some say the same about you.. | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | ANd about me | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | It's about perspective | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Not all agree | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Esp. not in the FOSS world | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | econciling is hard in an area where people thinm for themselves | Jun 21 14:32 |
| jono | schestowitz no, not because he doesnt drink the koolaid, because he doesnt base his reporting on facts | Jun 21 14:32 |
| cubezzz | look at Linus and RMS, they hardly agree on anything | Jun 21 14:32 |
| jono | I dont care if people criticize Canonical or Ubuntu, but I expect them to base their reporting on facts | Jun 21 14:32 |
| schestowitz | It's different where it's very top-down, people are discouraged for speaking out their minds | Jun 21 14:33 |
| XFaCE | jono: Red Hat essentially legitimized Microsoft's clear abuse of its monopoly | Jun 21 14:33 |
| jono | not on anger and preconceived notions | Jun 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: they do actually | Jun 21 14:33 |
| jono | Sam Varghese IMHO writes tabloid nonsense | Jun 21 14:33 |
| XFaCE | jono: It gave Microsoft authority it does not deserve | Jun 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz | but they argue over things they don't agree on | Jun 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz | not on the common ground | Jun 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz | I agree with Jono on maybe 90% of the things | Jun 21 14:33 |
| jono | a good example is SJVN, he has been critical of ubuntu and canonical, but he bases his reporting on facts and covers all sides | Jun 21 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: look at Linus he swears publically | Jun 21 14:33 |
| schestowitz | We don't agree on some stuff, that's the trf up for debate; such is life.. | Jun 21 14:33 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: then the Linux media make it into a big thing at times when that | Jun 21 14:34 |
| jono | Red Hat are in the same boat as we are, trying to find a technical solution to a crappy situation | Jun 21 14:34 |
| jono | and legal recourse is not an option | Jun 21 14:34 |
| schestowitz | not everything is techn9ical | Jun 21 14:34 |
| *sebsebseb thinks it's best to not swear publically when can avoide it, more so if someone kind of famous | Jun 21 14:34 | |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, I realize why he does it, I just don't think it's a good idea | Jun 21 14:34 |
| jono | it would cost Red Hat hundreds of millions of dollars | Jun 21 14:34 |
| jono | schestowitz so what is the solution? | Jun 21 14:34 |
| iophk | Will Canonical be signing keys? That would be a partial alternative to legitimizing M$ land grab. | Jun 21 14:34 |
| jono | legal action isnt an option | Jun 21 14:34 |
| schestowitz | "Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone." -RMS | Jun 21 14:35 |
| schestowitz | When you deal with a criminal, pick up a crobwar or call the police | Jun 21 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Negotiation might not work | Jun 21 14:35 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: also Linus whatever, he's just like the rest of us when it comes to picking a distro really, for him to use his program Linux, he has to pick a distro like the rest of us | Jun 21 14:35 |
| schestowitz | He'll kick you in the balls and you'll bleed to death | Jun 21 14:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:34] <jono> it would cost Red Hat hundreds of millions of dollars | Jun 21 14:35 |
| jono | schestowitz so what is the solution? | Jun 21 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Justice is not free | Jun 21 14:35 |
| schestowitz | Freedom is not free, either | Jun 21 14:35 |
| jono | schestowitz but why should Red Hat foot the bill? | Jun 21 14:36 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: as was shown with that OpenSuse thing, Linux media made a right fuss about that online | Jun 21 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat should put its money where it's sales pitch is | Jun 21 14:36 |
| schestowitz | *its | Jun 21 14:36 |
| schestowitz | jono: organise with Red Hat,m IBM... | Jun 21 14:36 |
| XFaCE | jono: Short-term gain, long-term pain | Jun 21 14:36 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: he didn't want his daughter to know the root password, and fused about it on Google+, blah de blah, and it became a big thing since it was Linus | Jun 21 14:36 |
| jono | schestowitz this isnt a soluton though, it might succeed | Jun 21 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Although, IIRC< IBM supported Palladium and Red Hat is a little butler of IBM, so I doubt it'll work so wmoothly | Jun 21 14:36 |
| jono | schestowitz so what is the technical solution for handing this? | Jun 21 14:36 |
| jono | aside from legal action | Jun 21 14:36 |
| schestowitz | think of it like this: | Jun 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | someone is going around town persuading people to demean and upset you | Jun 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | OEMs | Jun 21 14:37 |
| XFaCE | jono: What Red Hat did was knee-jerk reactionary action. | Jun 21 14:37 |
| schestowitz | If you cannot wait for the police or court to take action, pick a bone and man up | Jun 21 14:37 |
| jono | XFaCE, ok, so what solution do you propose? | Jun 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat could, for example build an alliance | Jun 21 14:38 |
| XFaCE | jono: They should have called Microsoft on their bullshit | Jun 21 14:38 |
| jono | you are not giving me solutions | Jun 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Google, Amazon... | Jun 21 14:38 |
| jono | you are still resorting to legal action | Jun 21 14:38 |
| jono | what can we do today to solve the issue of SecureBoot? | Jun 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz | do you have something against justice? | Jun 21 14:38 |
| jono | from a practical software perspective | Jun 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Is antitrust a dirty word? | Jun 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz | You deal with a serial offender here | Jun 21 14:38 |
| schestowitz | and you recommend bending over | Jun 21 14:39 |
| jono | schestowitz no, I don't, but Red Hat and Canonical are not going to take legal action | Jun 21 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Not good, jono... | Jun 21 14:39 |
| jono | so it is not an optoon | Jun 21 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Might get you through in life as a famiyl man.. | Jun 21 14:39 |
| jono | so I am asking...what is the solution? | Jun 21 14:39 |
| schestowitz | But like many other men, insiginificant.. cause you are not willing to be idealistic like Assange or RMS here.. | Jun 21 14:39 |
| iophk | you can't solve a legal problem with attempts at technical solutions | Jun 21 14:39 |
| jono | the reason why you cant give me a solution is because there is no solution | Jun 21 14:39 |
| schestowitz | I told you the solution | Jun 21 14:39 |
| schestowitz | But you choose to decline it | Jun 21 14:39 |
| jono | we are forced into a corner and Red Hat and Canonical are taking the only approaches they can | Jun 21 14:40 |
| schestowitz | !gogole conlin microsoft technical sabotage | Jun 21 14:40 |
| jono | schestowitz you didnt give me a solution...you solution is to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of someone elses money | Jun 21 14:40 |
| schestowitz | !google conlin microsoft technical sabotage | Jun 21 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - How Steve Ballmer (and Colleagues) Deliberately Sabotaged OS/2 ... | http://techrights.org/2009/06/17/steve-ballmer-crimes-vs-os2/ | Jun 21 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Groklaw - Comes v. MS Antitrust Trial Begins in Iowa | http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php%3Fstory%3D2006120516224886 | Jun 21 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Look Who's Stalking Wal-Mart - BusinessWeek | http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_49/b4158030745931.htm | Jun 21 14:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Return of the House Call - BusinessWeek | http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_46/b4155070821061.htm | Jun 21 14:40 |
| jono | why should Red Hat or Canonical foot the bill? | Jun 21 14:40 |
| jono | they are not going to take legal action | Jun 21 14:40 |
| schestowitz | no | Jun 21 14:40 |
| jono | so it is not an option from what I can see | Jun 21 14:40 |
| schestowitz | the solution is not to spend money | Jun 21 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Show me where I advocated this | Jun 21 14:40 |
| jono | you said they should take MS to court | Jun 21 14:41 |
| jono | ok, so what is the solution then? | Jun 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | No, antrist complaint | Jun 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | !google google eu mosaid antitrust complaint | Jun 21 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Google lobs antitrust complaint against Microsoft, Nokia in EU, claims | http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/google-lobs-antitrust-complaint-against-microsoft-and-nokia-in-eu/ | Jun 21 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - FOSS Patents: Nokia calls Google's EU antitrust complaint "frivolous ... | http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/nokia-calls-googles-eu-antitrust.html | Jun 21 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - FOSS Patents: Google's EU antitrust allegations against Microsoft ... | http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/googles-eu-antitrust-allegations.html | Jun 21 14:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google Files Complaint in Europe Against Microsoft, Nokia ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/google-files-complaint-in-europe-against-microsoft-correct-.html | Jun 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Here's MS'\ lobbyist | Jun 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Spinning it already | Jun 21 14:41 |
| scientes | interesting | Jun 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Under the "FOSS" banner | Jun 21 14:41 |
| schestowitz | I am..... Windows Roy | Jun 21 14:42 |
| scientes | oh its jono in here ;) | Jun 21 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Hear me roar.... I am actually trying to HELP Microsoft :-) | Jun 21 14:42 |
| schestowitz | jono: don't worry about Red Hat's wallet | Jun 21 14:42 |
| schestowitz | They have enough cash | Jun 21 14:42 |
| schestowitz | You strive to just ife what I suspect if Canonical prospective path | Jun 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Proactivelt | Jun 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | *is | Jun 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | ANd Red Hat set a bad precedent | Jun 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | WHich puts this pressure on Canonical, thus I dennounced Red hat for it | Jun 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Also, Red Hat harmed the chances of success of antitrust | Jun 21 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Which is exactly the opp. of what it ought to have done | Jun 21 14:43 |
| scientes | <sebsebseb> jono: uh why doesn't Canonical try to get a general key, for all Linux distros? | Jun 21 14:43 |
| XFaCE | jono: There is not technical solution | Jun 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | i.e. more harm than good, like Novell | Jun 21 14:44 |
| scientes | sebsebseb, its a difficult issue | Jun 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Canonical does this too | Jun 21 14:44 |
| schestowitz | !google canonical aiding criminals | Jun 21 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Canonical Aiding Criminals - Digg | http://digg.com/news/technology/canonical_aiding_criminals | Jun 21 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Aiding Criminals | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2012/06/09/aiding-criminals/ | Jun 21 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Ubuntu | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/ubuntu/ | Jun 21 14:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Ghabuntu (@ghabuntu) on Twitter | https://twitter.com/ghabuntu | Jun 21 14:44 |
| XFaCE | EFI has already been determined to be underdeveloped | Jun 21 14:44 |
| XFaCE | It's benefits are weak sause at best | Jun 21 14:44 |
| jono | schestowitz an antitrust complaint wouldnt solve the issue | Jun 21 14:44 |
| scientes | XFaCE, agreed, and Garett saying that this isn't true does not magically make secureboot secure | Jun 21 14:44 |
| jono | it would wrap it up in legal issues for years | Jun 21 14:44 |
| jono | while the technology is still available | Jun 21 14:45 |
| XFaCE | jono: Yep, the governement is useless | Jun 21 14:45 |
| jono | this is why we do need a technological solution to this | Jun 21 14:45 |
| schestowitz | it can stall OEMs | Jun 21 14:45 |
| schestowitz | antitrust | Jun 21 14:45 |
| schestowitz | bad publicity etc. | Jun 21 14:45 |
| jono | and my point is that Red Hat and Canonical don't have any options | Jun 21 14:45 |
| jono | schestowitz it wont | Jun 21 14:45 |
| jono | OEMs will still ship | Jun 21 14:45 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft should be allowed to do whatever it wants, which is essentially the position it has been in for the last 20 years | Jun 21 14:45 |
| jono | it will take five years to settle that case | Jun 21 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Aiding Microsoft go through with this helps legitimise an attack on general-purpose mobos | Jun 21 14:45 |
| scientes | jono, I was thinking about this earlier, and doesn't the very existance of firewire make it broken from the start? couldn't we just have a firewire/iPod ubunt installer than can bypass secureboot? | Jun 21 14:45 |
| jono | schestowitz I think you are being a little idealistic | Jun 21 14:45 |
| scientes | b/c DMA | Jun 21 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Such that 10 years from now many mobos will be obsolete and refuse to run code, unless it's some "appproved" (by now-fefunct Microsoft) secret ket | Jun 21 14:46 |
| schestowitz | *key | Jun 21 14:46 |
| XFaCE | jono: By helping Microsoft, Red Hat has assured that it can go after small companies that don't comply | Jun 21 14:46 |
| schestowitz | jono: I think many are being defeatist | Jun 21 14:46 |
| XFaCE | They'll use the "digital handcuff no anti-circumvention" defenece | Jun 21 14:46 |
| scientes | schestowitz, in theory that will only apply to arm, b/c x86 is suppose to have an override | Jun 21 14:46 |
| XFaCE | jono: Watch what Apple has done with EFI and TPMS | Jun 21 14:47 |
| schestowitz | scientes: I know | Jun 21 14:47 |
| schestowitz | if you know how to mess with boot menus | Jun 21 14:47 |
| jono | schestowitz why dont you file an antitrust complaint? | Jun 21 14:47 |
| scientes | XFaCE, and don't think for a second that microsoft doesn't have the same end-goals | Jun 21 14:47 |
| iophk | Defeatism won't solve long term problems. It is practical to think about repercussions down the road. Long term planning cannot be so easily dismissed as 'idealism' | Jun 21 14:47 |
| schestowitz | jono: it's not my role | Jun 21 14:47 |
| jono | schestowitz why? | Jun 21 14:47 |
| schestowitz | it's like, saying: | Jun 21 14:47 |
| jono | you care about this | Jun 21 14:47 |
| XFaCE | jono: In Canada, we are passing a copyright bill that prevents pretty much all all circumvention of digital handcuffs | Jun 21 14:48 |
| jono | put your money where your mouth is :-) | Jun 21 14:48 |
| XFaCE | jono: think about that | Jun 21 14:48 |
| schestowitz | why don't I file a lawsuit against Tony Blair over Iraq | Jun 21 14:48 |
| scientes | jono, don't you have to buy one of these computers before filing a complaint, in order to have grounds to ====oh wait this isn't a suit | Jun 21 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Your question does you a desservice; it disredits your side in the debate | Jun 21 14:48 |
| formic_ | how is it antitrust when you can turn off uefi secure boot | Jun 21 14:48 |
| jono | schestowitz I dont think so | Jun 21 14:48 |
| schestowitz | let others decide | Jun 21 14:48 |
| jono | schestowitz my point is that it is easy to point to someone else to solve our problems | Jun 21 14:48 |
| schestowitz | it's a straw man | Jun 21 14:48 |
| jono | I am just pointing the finger back at you and asking why | Jun 21 14:48 |
| scientes | formic_, microsoft trying to take away desktop icons was anti-trust | Jun 21 14:48 |
| XFaCE | jono: I have you good reasons | Jun 21 14:49 |
| jono | what is not going to help is if you guys treat Red Hat like you treated Novell | Jun 21 14:49 |
| scientes | formic_, this is clearly anti-trust, just the ability to get around something doesn't mean it isn't anti-competitive | Jun 21 14:49 |
| jono | we don't need another Boycott Novell | Jun 21 14:49 |
| jono | Red Hat are good citizens, and they do good work | Jun 21 14:49 |
| schestowitz | who said anything about boycott? | Jun 21 14:49 |
| jono | this situation is shitty because of Microsoft | Jun 21 14:49 |
| schestowitz | yes, they are | Jun 21 14:49 |
| XFaCE | jono: I'm sorry, we criticize those who are wrong | Jun 21 14:49 |
| schestowitz | but they made an error | Jun 21 14:49 |
| schestowitz | and we should point this out | Jun 21 14:49 |
| jono | XFaCE, wrong in *your* eyes | Jun 21 14:49 |
| XFaCE | this isn't MSNBC vs. FOX news | Jun 21 14:50 |
| XFaCE | jono: I think it's pretty good evidence | Jun 21 14:50 |
| scientes | schestowitz, and they are having a hard time implamenting it in a way that the upstream kernel guys like | Jun 21 14:50 |
| XFaCE | jono: The copyright bill in Canada would kill Red Hat in this regard | Jun 21 14:50 |
| formic_ | jono - i dont understand the complaint, people are going to be buying computers preloaded by microsoft and paying for that license... instead of building a computer or having one custom made locally | Jun 21 14:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Open Source Batch Management? - Slashdot http://goo.gl/sl7ma #controlm alternatives - #flosstools | Jun 21 14:50 | |
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| schestowitz | maybe I should not criticise pedophile priests either because something they help guise some children... or not tell off politicians because not everything they do is malicious | Jun 21 14:50 |
| schestowitz | you can't label companies black/white | Jun 21 14:50 |
| schestowitz | you judge separately based on what they do | Jun 21 14:50 |
| XFaCE | jono: It's a grey world | Jun 21 14:51 |
| scientes | Alan Cox says he is hoarding flaws in red-hats secureboot implamentation | Jun 21 14:51 |
| schestowitz | I don't criticise Novell or Microsot for everything they do... nor do they deserve praises, they're not people | Jun 21 14:51 |
| scientes | we all know that this move by microsoft wont do jack for security, its all about *insecurity* | Jun 21 14:51 |
| schestowitz | no, security | Jun 21 14:51 |
| schestowitz | but whose | Jun 21 14:51 |
| schestowitz | shareholders of MS | Jun 21 14:51 |
| schestowitz | and definitwely not Linux' | Jun 21 14:52 |
| scientes | schestowitz, ok, yes | Jun 21 14:52 |
| formic_ | listen for a second | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Because Linux not depends on sociopaths to boot | Jun 21 14:52 |
| scientes | it doesn't make windows any more secure, its just a way of kicking people out | Jun 21 14:52 |
| formic_ | secure boot does one thing, locks out pirated boot loaders that fake oem bios for product activation | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | *now | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | formic_: bvoo hoo | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | activation | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | aka copies | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | without control by the Vle | Jun 21 14:52 |
| scientes | and that really pissed me off at Red Hat, that they are trying to polish over this turd of a decision, and trying to tell us to eat their shit, that it will make us more secure "THINK OF THIS CHILDREN" type of arument | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Ask RMS how he feels about it | Jun 21 14:52 |
| schestowitz | where abundance is possible | Jun 21 14:53 |
| schestowitz | without contraints | Jun 21 14:53 |
| formic_ | so turn off uefi secure boot and install linux | Jun 21 14:53 |
| formic_ | use your own custom keys | Jun 21 14:53 |
| scientes | formic_, but their company decision weakens that position for all of us | Jun 21 14:53 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Until it becomes impossible to do so | Jun 21 14:53 |
| formic_ | its not lock in, if the door isnt "locked" | Jun 21 14:53 |
| scientes | formic_, totally false | Jun 21 14:53 |
| schestowitz | false | Jun 21 14:53 |
| schestowitz | they build more walls | Jun 21 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The draft “Communications Data Bill”, opportunities and challenges - http://bit.ly/MlBrVD more legal analysis #uk | Jun 21 14:53 | |
| schestowitz | and call it "security" | Jun 21 14:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Guest post by Ibrahim Hasan – The draft “Communications Data Bill”, opportunities and challenges | Legal Aware .::. Size~: 63.79 KB | Jun 21 14:54 |
| formic_ | you're saying you can't turn off uefi secure boot? | Jun 21 14:54 |
| formic_ | its security against boot loader pirates | Jun 21 14:54 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty dark gray world, then | Jun 21 14:54 |
| schestowitz | I can put pickles in your cake and say you can remove them | Jun 21 14:54 |
| schestowitz | But in all liklihood, my cake sales will diminish | Jun 21 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Micosoft does not worry about those | Jun 21 14:55 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft likes piracy | Jun 21 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - We Love Microsoft Software Piracy in China: Bill Gates | http://labnol.blogspot.com/2007/07/we-love-microsoft-software-piracy-in.html | Jun 21 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Don't Be Fooled by Software Pirates - Microsoft | https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2010/apr10/04-01piracymythspr.aspx | Jun 21 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - If Microsoft does not like piracy, why does it not ... | http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/553843-If-Microsoft-does-not-like-piracy-why-does-it-not | Jun 21 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Surprise! Microsoft quietly opposes SOPA copyright bill | Privacy Inc ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57330078-281/surprise-microsoft-quietly-opposes-sopa-copyright-bill/ | Jun 21 14:55 |
| formic_ | bad anaology | Jun 21 14:55 |
| schestowitz | To Microsoft, Linux is "piracy" | Jun 21 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Because Linux is EVIL or MURDEROUS | Jun 21 14:55 |
| formic_ | its like building a house with a lock and not requiring that you use a key | Jun 21 14:56 |
| schestowitz | it'd different | Jun 21 14:56 |
| scientes | formic_, you could always turn on selinux.... | Jun 21 14:56 |
| schestowitz | the house is not yours | Jun 21 14:56 |
| schestowitz | It's shared | Jun 21 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Among Fedora, Windows, Ubuntu, BSD.. | Jun 21 14:56 |
| scientes | in fact, its easy to turn on ROM security in linux | Jun 21 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is trying to change the locks on a house it doesn't own | Jun 21 14:57 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yep | Jun 21 14:57 |
| schestowitz | and then it says, oh, you can try to sneak from the trapdoor | Jun 21 14:57 |
| formic_ | with uefi secure boot, you can use a custom key and people won't be able to boot livecd's to hack your linux install | Jun 21 14:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] UN Trade & Development Agency argues flexible #IP rules are crucial to #Africa's sustainable future. https://eff.org/r.a9dw | Jun 21 14:58 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: UNCTAD Report Sees Sustainable African Growth In IP Flexibilities | Intellectual Property Watch .::. Size~: 47.03 KB | Jun 21 14:58 |
| formic_ | you could build linux-only computers where your mom,dad,bother,sister,w/e won't have a friend come over and install windows on you | Jun 21 14:59 |
| MinceR | instead they'll use DMA over IEEE1394 or PCIe to break into your system | Jun 21 14:59 |
| MinceR | since they have physical access | Jun 21 14:59 |
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| formic_ | so | Jun 21 15:00 |
| scientes | MinceR, YEP | Jun 21 15:00 |
| formic_ | use DMA over IEEE1394 or PCIe to break into your system | Jun 21 15:00 |
| formic_ | to break windows | Jun 21 15:00 |
| formic_ | and install linux | Jun 21 15:00 |
| scientes | would be a trivial iPod installer | Jun 21 15:00 |
| MinceR | they can probably break GNU/Linux with it too | Jun 21 15:00 |
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| scientes | MinceR, in fact they can | Jun 21 15:00 |
| MinceR | and if not with that then with a hardware debugger | Jun 21 15:00 |
| formic_ | so then whats the big deal? | Jun 21 15:00 |
| scientes | http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/physical-memory-attacks-via-firewire-dma-part-1-overview-and-mitigation | Jun 21 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Physical memory attacks via Firewire/DMA - Part 1: Overview and Mitigation (Update) | Uwe Hermann .::. Size~: 57.82 KB | Jun 21 15:00 |
| formic_ | lock-in so scary it can be turned off... | Jun 21 15:01 |
| MinceR | the big deal is that the uneducated user gets shafted even harder then before | Jun 21 15:01 |
| MinceR | installed base might decrease or not increase as much as otherwise | Jun 21 15:01 |
| MinceR | and so we get worse support | Jun 21 15:01 |
| formic_ | the uneducated user will install ubuntu which will be supported | Jun 21 15:01 |
| iophk | Having the end-user install the system is a losing battle it has been shown. Breaking into the OEM market is what's needed. | Jun 21 15:02 |
| formic_ | the ubuntu uefi setup is actually more locked in because you cant even use microsoft signed pci hardware | Jun 21 15:02 |
| MinceR | iophk: having the end-user install the system can help break into the oem market, though | Jun 21 15:02 |
| formic_ | but again, turn it off | Jun 21 15:02 |
| formic_ | oh no! | Jun 21 15:02 |
| formic_ | bios options! scary! | Jun 21 15:02 |
| formic_ | start up a motherboard manufactuer company and make millions off the apparently 'locked in' users stuck with windows | Jun 21 15:03 |
| formic_ | support a company making uefi secure boot neutral motherboards like ASUS or Gigabyte | Jun 21 15:04 |
| formic_ | replace your oem motherboard for less than $100 | Jun 21 15:04 |
| formic_ | like there are so many options, its silly to say 'lock in' | Jun 21 15:05 |
| formic_ | but its your freedom to be scared of nothing | Jun 21 15:05 |
| MinceR | gigabyte is "boot neutral"? | Jun 21 15:05 |
| MinceR | the company that basically said "we don't care, use windows"? | Jun 21 15:05 |
| formic_ | sure is | Jun 21 15:05 |
| formic_ | they would go bankrupt if they sold boards that won't load XP or 7 | Jun 21 15:06 |
| formic_ | which would require uefi secure boot disabling | Jun 21 15:06 |
| formic_ | mincer - why dont you stop supporting american companies and get a local company in hungary to build you a OS-free PC | Jun 21 15:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Thursday http://ur1.ca/9jk6l | Jun 21 15:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Security advisories for Thursday [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.98 KB | Jun 21 15:07 |
| formic_ | usians right? | Jun 21 15:07 |
| MinceR | formic_: which local company is going to manufacture mainboards? | Jun 21 15:07 |
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| formic_ | you dont have to go local for motherboards, PC oems often use custom made ones | Jun 21 15:08 |
| formic_ | just get an off the shelf board | Jun 21 15:08 |
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| MinceR | which local company is going to build a laptop? | Jun 21 15:08 |
| formic_ | ASUS and Gigabyte are taiwanese | Jun 21 15:08 |
| formic_ | get a system76 from canada, or a leemote from china | Jun 21 15:09 |
| formic_ | RMS has a leemote | Jun 21 15:09 |
| MinceR | he had a lemote | Jun 21 15:09 |
| formic_ | no windows tax, therefor no secure boot issues in the future either | Jun 21 15:09 |
| MinceR | until he got robbed | Jun 21 15:09 |
| formic_ | MinceR: i wonder if his password is still blank | Jun 21 15:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 21 15:10 |
| MinceR | i hope not | Jun 21 15:10 |
| MinceR | the reason for doing so is no longer there | Jun 21 15:10 |
| formic_ | meh, boot cd would work too | Jun 21 15:11 |
| formic_ | or usb | Jun 21 15:11 |
| formic_ | dont need his password to get his files | Jun 21 15:11 |
| MinceR | like said, when the attacker has physical access, nothing can really keep them from compromising the hardware | Jun 21 15:12 |
| formic_ | unless he was using lvm with disk encryption | Jun 21 15:12 |
| MinceR | s/s/i s/ | Jun 21 15:12 |
| MinceR | disk encryption can protect the stored data | Jun 21 15:12 |
| MinceR | but it can't keep the hw itself from being taken over | Jun 21 15:12 |
| formic_ | all my linux devices have entire-disk-encryption | Jun 21 15:12 |
| formic_ | just in case they get stolen by theives, or stolen by the government | Jun 21 15:12 |
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| iophk | MinceR: the freedom for the end-user to install a new system helps (to a small extent) mitigate the OEM lock-in that is currently the situation. UEFI hurts that very much. | Jun 21 15:17 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jun 21 15:17 |
| iophk | That's where nearly all of Ubuntu's (canonical's) market comes from right now. UEFI is going to take a bite out of that if nothing changes. | Jun 21 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | these collapse blogs are funny | Jun 21 15:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] since #UEFA arn't serious about play acting, they should go the whole hog & give out their own best actor awards post match #ec2012 | Jun 21 15:20 | |
| DaemonFC | I think the most likely way the US would collapse is that the federal government declares itself to be insolvent | Jun 21 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | a new federal government forms and declares that it isn't associated with the old one | Jun 21 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | and anyone stupid enough to have large amounts of US Dollars on hand gets to take a bath | Jun 21 15:22 |
| MinceR | as an added bonus, if they can install a hw keylogger without you noticing, they can use it to steal the password to decrypt the drives with :> | Jun 21 15:22 |
| DaemonFC | if the federal government really becomes insolvent, it will have a hard time keeping a military together when it can no longer issue paychecks | Jun 21 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | so it might be a rather calm collapse from the perspective of the average US citizen | Jun 21 15:23 |
| DaemonFC | depending on how quickly the existing government disbands itself, we may or may not start losing territory to invaders and secession | Jun 21 15:25 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: didn't you place landmines along the mexican border? | Jun 21 15:26 |
| DaemonFC | no, nobody takes that seriously | Jun 21 15:26 |
| MinceR | no electrified fence? no sentry guns? | Jun 21 15:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US-EU Transatlantic Trade Deal Would Skip IPRs - http://bit.ly/NVp8U1 significant in the light of #ACTA, I think (v @mgeist) | Jun 21 15:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The New World Order in 2012 http://goo.gl/W66Sc #nwo #tptb | Jun 21 15:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: There's a lot of military hardware that the new government will have to move quickly to seize | Jun 21 15:27 |
| MinceR | two fences with xenomorphs in between? | Jun 21 15:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kim Dotcom: Artists Rejoice, Megabox is Not Dead - http://bit.ly/KBuEu9 you have to admire the chap's indomitability | Jun 21 15:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Within 20 years there might still be something calling itself the United States of America, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a debt default, new government, an replacement constitution by then. | Jun 21 15:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Who knows what kinds of nasty stuff the US military has laying around | Jun 21 15:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mysterious Baltic Sea Object Raises More Questions -- NTDTV.com http://goo.gl/gkLNK #xfiles | Jun 21 15:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Ronaldo deserved a goal there | Jun 21 15:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The 6 Creepiest Lies the #Food Industry is Feeding You | Cracked.com http://goo.gl/JSOKG #frankenfood | Jun 21 15:32 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I'd be more worried about what kind of shit the CDC has samples of laying around | Jun 21 15:32 |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 21 15:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UN expert labels CIA tactic exposed by Bureau ‘a war crime’ - http://bit.ly/MmorSk "deliberately targeting rescuers in its drone strikes" | Jun 21 15:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 21 Things to Look For Every Time You Go To a Yard Sale or Thrift Store | The Survival Mom™ http://goo.gl/uXWvB #preppers | Jun 21 15:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: UN expert labels CIA tactic exposed by Bureau ‘a war crime’ - http://bit.ly/MmorSk "deliberately targeting rescuers in its dro | Jun 21 15:33 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/american-hellholes | Jun 21 15:34 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, don't go to Detroit | Jun 21 15:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Do The People Who Always Ask Us To 'Respect' Artists Seem To Have So Little Respect For Artists? - http://bit.ly/Myx7CH pathetic | Jun 21 15:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kickstarter by the numbers: New stats page gives daily updates - http://bit.ly/KnVctQ pretty big numbers, too | Jun 21 15:38 | |
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| formic_ | no drones? | Jun 21 15:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] good job you didn't say fortran there... | Jun 21 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's 32°C in the pseudo tropic of !Canada …overnight drop to 17°C forecast; Severe Thunderstorm Watch in effect #Humidex 37 #climatechange | Jun 21 15:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Why Do The People Who Always Ask Us To 'Respect' Artists Seem To Have So Little Respect For Artists? - http://bit.ly/Myx7CH | Jun 21 15:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | formic_: The reason that manufacturing jobs are starting to come back to Indiana is because the value of the US dollar has fallen more than 50% in the last 10 years | Jun 21 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's getting cheaper to export than it used to be, but it won't be enough for a recovery because China can just manipulate their currency in step with the dollar | Jun 21 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | for some things that can be made with enough automation, that's what you're seeing set up when they talk about manufacturing growth here | Jun 21 15:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<hoping the rumble distant thunder resolves into a nice storm. (& breaks the pressure headache I've had all heatwave) #tropicofCanada | Jun 21 15:47 | |
| iophk | The yuan is not tied to the dollar any more, if I understand correctly : http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2011/1018/Chinese-yuan-s-new-global-challenge-to-the-dollar | Jun 21 15:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The (somewhat) latest developments in #opendata: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/32665 | Jun 21 15:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Well sort of right. In my dialect "jee-ra" and "jeer-a" are phonemically distinct and I'd been saying "jeer-a". | Jun 21 15:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm from identi.ca with 62 dents! | Jun 21 15:57 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There's talk about privatization of our town water supply. | Jun 21 16:00 |
| formic_ | After a month of invading DaemonFC's privacy, I've finally found a picture of him. | Jun 21 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | same company that took over Fort Wayne's and doubled the water rates | Jun 21 16:01 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC's pic: http://imgur.com/WBkhd | Jun 21 16:01 |
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| DaemonFC | yep | Jun 21 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'd recognize me anywhere | Jun 21 16:01 |
| *DaemonFC wonders how people keep getting sold on "privatization will lower rates" | Jun 21 16:02 | |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: depends on how its advertised | Jun 21 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | there's a potential for lower rates, it all depends on the contract | Jun 21 16:03 |
| formic_ | in Toronto, privitizations is sold along with killing unions | Jun 21 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | usually you end up with a rate hike at some point | Jun 21 16:03 |
| formic_ | What if you come from the Internet? | Jun 21 16:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Portugal should be home & hosed by now; starting to wonder if it'll cost em with a single goal putting them out #ec2012 | Jun 21 16:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Major blow to #ACTA: Fifth and final EU parliamentary committee rejects agreement 2 weeks ahead of final vote https://eff.org/r.a6d2 | Jun 21 16:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57457836/supreme-court-throws-out-tv-cursing-sanctions/ | Jun 21 16:21 |
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| DaemonFC | yay | Jun 21 16:21 |
| MinceR | http://1.asset.soup.io/asset/2123/0497_c370.jpeg | Jun 21 16:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JimmyCarr said sorry. So did #WilliamShatner - but without apologising http://goo.gl/2McdK | Jun 21 16:27 | |
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| Ziomatrix | Still going strong: http://bit.ly/vuSIH3 | Jun 21 16:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why Do The People Who Always Ask Us To 'Respect' Artists Seem To Have So Little Respect For Artists? http://www.ur1.ca/9jkk8 !Copyright !C11 | Jun 21 16:32 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Portugal made hard work of what should have been a reasnably straighforward game but got through eventually #ec2012 | Jun 21 16:40 | |
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| formic_ | +1 mincer | Jun 21 17:02 |
| Ziomatrix | http://bit.ly/KUgEN5 can this dream for few become a reality? | Jun 21 17:03 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: They're from the Huntington County Sheriff's Department | Jun 21 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | their federal Homeland Security Grant must have come early this year | Jun 21 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 21 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | they're waiting for all the old people to start protesting | Jun 21 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | "We are the 99 year olds!" | Jun 21 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Huntington Police: "Fuck you!" *taser!!!!* | Jun 21 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | later on the news "Well, she was coming right for us, and uhhh, you know, we needed to act" | Jun 21 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Autodesk uses Octocopter to find fossils with Louise Leakey - http://bit.ly/MyM6MW interesting non-military use for drone | Jun 21 17:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/us/politics/senate-passes-farm-bill-but-tougher-road-seen-in-house.html?_r=1 | Jun 21 17:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] We asked Internet users how they felt about software patents. Here's what they had to say: https://eff.org/r.5ad3 #patentfail | Jun 21 17:08 | |
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| DaemonFC | another $100 billion a year in corporate welfare | Jun 21 17:09 |
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| DaemonFC | which they'll be quick to point out is $2 billion a year less than it was! | Jun 21 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | which is a deficit reduction! | Jun 21 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jerrydoyle.com/jd-vegas-cam-when-did-the-truth-become-an-impossible-standard_ | Jun 21 17:11 |
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| *DaemonFC wonders if he can pass Jabba off as a seeing eye cat | Jun 21 17:26 | |
| DaemonFC | these landlords are getting really strict | Jun 21 17:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #Emacs Reference mugs are back! http://ur1.ca/9jm6h !fsf !gnu | Jun 21 17:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Foundation board election results http://ur1.ca/9jm8c | Jun 21 17:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | noticed the first good storm in 3 months is on its way, so I went out with a bucket of hot water mixed with dish soap and a sponge and gave my car a good once over | Jun 21 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | let the storm do the rinse cycle | Jun 21 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | landlord freaked out when he saw me washing my car and so he cut off the water to the spigot outside | Jun 21 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | cheap | Jun 21 17:48 |
| formic_ | Oh wow | Jun 21 17:49 |
| formic_ | That's pretty gay | Jun 21 17:49 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, like 5 cents of water to wash my car once a month | Jun 21 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | so now I have to carry it out in buckets instead | Jun 21 17:50 |
| formic_ | Yeah really | Jun 21 17:51 |
| formic_ | My grandma freaked when I left the tap running while washing dishes | Jun 21 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | did you tell her it's like half a cent a gallon? | Jun 21 17:52 |
| formic_ | She's so cheap she steals sugar and napkins from McDonald's | Jun 21 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | and unless this is 1850, that means basically nothing | Jun 21 17:52 |
| formic_ | It's less than that here | Jun 21 17:52 |
| formic_ | It's like a quarter cent | Jun 21 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | that's about what it was before they raised it over the last couple of years | Jun 21 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | they freaked out because people were leaving town in droves because there was a job shortage | Jun 21 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | so they raised taxes on everyone that stayed | Jun 21 17:53 |
| formic_ | Canada has more fresh water | Jun 21 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | which compels more people to leave | Jun 21 17:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help us shape Wikimedia’s prototype visual editor - http://bit.ly/KobC5H nice; #opensource too (v @Joscelyn) | Jun 21 17:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | so they raised the taxes again | Jun 21 17:53 |
| formic_ | You guys went to the UN to try stealing our water | Jun 21 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | don't worry | Jun 21 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | we'll get it eventually | Jun 21 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | just consider it gone | Jun 21 17:54 |
| formic_ | It will be tough | Jun 21 17:54 |
| formic_ | That's when the UN said water isn't a human right | Jun 21 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | but another part of the UN says the internet is a human right | Jun 21 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | don't you love the UN? | Jun 21 17:55 |
| formic_ | Lol | Jun 21 17:55 |
| formic_ | Internet is a human right so that revolutions can work | Jun 21 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | but only when they're in the interest of the US government | Jun 21 17:56 |
| formic_ | Then the revolutions help the UN put its thugs in charge | Jun 21 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | which tries to censor the internet for its own people | Jun 21 17:56 |
| formic_ | Like Libya | Jun 21 17:56 |
| formic_ | Lol | Jun 21 17:57 |
| formic_ | Things are gonna get interesting | Jun 21 17:57 |
| formic_ | Gotta love transit | Jun 21 17:58 |
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| DaemonFC | formic_: One of the conspiracy theory shows was talking about plans to drain the great lakes | Jun 21 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | is that what you were talking about? | Jun 21 18:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf #Emacs Reference mugs are back! http://ur1.ca/9jm6h !fsf !gnu | Jun 21 18:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/wyoming-house-advances-doomsday-bill/article_af6e1b2b-0ca4-553f-85e9-92c0f58c00bd.html | Jun 21 18:12 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jun 21 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b69a6ebd-7ebe-41b7-bb03-c25a5e194365 | Jun 21 18:23 |
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| DaemonFC | The Presidential Election Campaign Fund is voluntary | Jun 21 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | you check whether or not you want money to go to it on your tax return | Jun 21 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | I always check no | Jun 21 18:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf #Emacs Reference mugs are back! http://ur1.ca/9jm6h !fsf !gnu | Jun 21 18:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Google lança projeto para proteger idiomas em extinção, Mirandês http://goo.gl/Al9qI #pt | Jun 21 18:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Reddit Cofounder Says Site Was Built By a Horde of Fake Accounts http://goo.gl/FdMpf | Jun 21 18:58 | |
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| formic_ | DaemonFC: The grand canal project never saw the light of day | Jun 21 19:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIAA Goes After #CNET For Media-Conversion Software http://goo.gl/za9Oe | Jun 21 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @thistleweb Are you trying to be specific on one of the bride outfits | Jun 21 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #EFF RT @eff: We asked Internet users how they felt about software #patents. Here's what they had to say: https://eff.org/r.5ad3 #patentfail | Jun 21 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gym Allegedly Threatens To Call Police On Blogger For Blogging That Its Prices Were A Bit High http://goo.gl/Er5H7 | Jun 21 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Charles Carreon Keeps Digging: Promises To Subpoena Twitter & Ars Technica To Track Down Parody Account http://goo.gl/8OgUU | Jun 21 19:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Nearly 40% of libraries will let you check out an e-reader, as ebook penetration soars http://goo.gl/eXTFW | Jun 21 19:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Portugal é visto como um exemplo de e-Government pela Polónia http://goo.gl/CjkxI big mistake!!! | Jun 21 19:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Nice! @PayPal to offer rewards for reporting security bugs. https://eff.org/r.a9d5 (Of course, making the Internet safer is its own reward.) | Jun 21 19:23 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I love you all. I hope someone loves me. G'night. | Jun 21 19:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/06/21/0020250/hacker-group-demands-idiot-tax-from-payday-lender | Jun 21 19:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1734579 | Jun 21 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @heavymetalmixer@joindiaspora.com reshared: Jajajajaja LOL #Humor #Gif xD jaja | Jun 21 19:33 |
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| tessier | DaemonFC: I always check no too. Why would anyone say yes? | Jun 21 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | it doesn't decrease your refund and the wording is vague | Jun 21 19:34 |
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| DaemonFC | somehow they manage to get about $35 million diverted from the US treasury each year that way and steer it towards the Republican and Democratic parties | Jun 21 19:34 |
| tessier | DaemonFC: Wyoming? Aircraft carrier? WTF? | Jun 21 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | which, I hope it should go without saying, they don't need | Jun 21 19:34 |
| tessier | They've got SuperPACs now. Their funding problems are over. | Jun 21 19:35 |
| tessier | They can get all the money they need from corporations. | Jun 21 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | right, the $35 million is just a bonus | Jun 21 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | they can throw even more booze and hooker parties | Jun 21 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | we desperately need them to shut down PECF, it diverts about $3.5-$4 billion over every 10 years to rich corporate criminal political parties who don't need it | Jun 21 19:36 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] rofl UK's pond scum #press whining that the #England players won't talk to them aww shit happens when you're a POS for a living #ec2012 | Jun 21 19:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when you make a living smearing people, inventing stories, stalking their every move, interegating everyone they know for dirt #surprised? | Jun 21 19:37 | |
| DaemonFC | but, they run the government, so they won't shut it down | Jun 21 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | tessier: it's political theater | Jun 21 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | the Republicans run Wyoming's state government so it gives them a chance to scare the hell out of people and blame all the debt on the Democrats | Jun 21 19:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] even worse, when you pretend to be related to those people, to gain access you shouldn't have, only to smear their private lives | Jun 21 19:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] ...mit Apple Werbung, interessanten "Fakten" aus der Film- und Musikindustrie... Für so etwas zahl ich gerne GEZ #NOT | Jun 21 19:40 | |
| DaemonFC | tessier: It's odd that Coburn would bitch about PECF now | Jun 21 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Romney is benefiting from it more than Obama is | Jun 21 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Romney isn't getting the kind of donations Obama is, and so the PECF funding represents a higher percentage of his total campaign funds | Jun 21 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | the problem with the Republican strategy of decimating the middle class is that they have fewer people who are in a position or state of mind to donate to them | Jun 21 19:43 |
| tessier | Where on earth would Wyoming launch an aircraft carrier from? :) | Jun 21 19:44 |
| tessier | Well, from a shore on earth I suppose. But Wyoming doesn't have one. | Jun 21 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | a large river, perhaps? | Jun 21 19:44 |
| tessier | I am rather concerned that Romney is pulling in more money for his campaign than Obama is. | Jun 21 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | he isn't | Jun 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Obama's campaign just issued an updated FEC filing yesterday | Jun 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | they have about $150 million on hand | Jun 21 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | and that doesn't count PACs | Jun 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | or any help he might get from the DNC | Jun 21 19:46 |
| tessier | That doesn't tell me anything about how much Romney has. | Jun 21 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | according to Romney's latest FEC filing, he has about $111 million cash on hand | Jun 21 19:46 |
| tessier | Not including PACs right? | Jun 21 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | right | Jun 21 19:47 |
| tessier | And aren't PACs what we are worried about? | Jun 21 19:47 |
| tessier | Due to the Citizen's United ruling? | Jun 21 19:47 |
| tessier | aka SuperPACs? | Jun 21 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, if people are massively stupid and believe everything a television commercial tells them | Jun 21 19:47 |
| tessier | I've never really cared about any election as much as I seem to care about this one. | Jun 21 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | they support the Republicans anyway, by and large | Jun 21 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think unlimited PAC spending will be a huge setback from where we were before | Jun 21 19:48 |
| tessier | So.... | Jun 21 19:48 |
| tessier | I am rather concerned that Romney is pulling in more money for his campaign than Obama is. | Jun 21 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm much less concerned about the PACs than I am the 2010 Census and what it did to the Electoral College | Jun 21 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | that effectively has Obama down about 10 electoral votes even if the results were identical to the 2008 election | Jun 21 19:52 |
| tessier | I'm wondering when the health care decision from the Supreme Court is going to come down too. | Jun 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | so he's at a disadvantage just because the census counts all the northerners who fled south to beg for jobs | Jun 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | and all the illegal mexicans down there that can't vote anyway | Jun 21 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | has to be next Monday or Thursday | Jun 21 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | next Thursday is their last scheduled meeting for months | Jun 21 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | I will be shell shocked if they leave the act intact | Jun 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | not because it's unconstitutional (it isn't), but because the court is full of right wingers who make up the law as they go | Jun 21 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'd actually like to see them strike down the individual mandate and leave the rest of the law untouched | Jun 21 19:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [Major Victory] Now Let's Win ACTA's Final Round! http://ur1.ca/9jhhd #acta | Jun 21 19:55 | |
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| DaemonFC | that would really sock it to the health insurance bastards provided the politicians didn't go back and edit the law to save them | Jun 21 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | (but you know they would) | Jun 21 19:55 |
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| DaemonFC | a lot of the law's items that have already taken effect are so popular that the Republicans can't wiggle away from them | Jun 21 19:57 |
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| DaemonFC | if people start getting thrown off who the law was already protecting, you have a bunch of voters who will be back in 2014 and mad as hell at the Republicans | Jun 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | of course it was designed like that intentionally :) | Jun 21 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh sorry, but since the law was repealed, we don't have to cover your kids who are off at college now, so we're dropping them! kthxbai!" | Jun 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | that alone is going to result in some angry voters | Jun 21 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | and they'll remember Republicans chanting "kill the bill!" | Jun 21 20:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER http://ur1.ca/9jmxp not just tax-exempt, sponsored by tax dollars | Jun 21 20:00 | |
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| DaemonFC | the guy in the ape suit passing out bananas | Jun 21 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Jun 21 20:02 |
| schestowitz | see his channel | Jun 21 20:06 |
| schestowitz | he has some hilarious skits | Jun 21 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | tessier: It's another year of "hold my nose and vote for the Democrats, because the other choice is worse" I guess | Jun 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | the difference is less every election | Jun 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | at this point they may as well merge into one party because of there being about <5% overlap in what they're actually doing | Jun 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | even though their platforms are quite different | Jun 21 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | I voted as a Republican in the Indiana primary this year | Jun 21 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I voted for Ron Paul and left the rest of the ballot blank | Jun 21 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | the amount of money that Congress is throwing after projects that are clearly against our national interests or have no purpose at all or are just "bringing home the bacon" is totally inexcusable | Jun 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'd honestly like to know who the 9% are that approve of what Congress is doing | Jun 21 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | 9% approval rating and nobody making any serious effort to get rid of them | Jun 21 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | it's ridiculous, it's such a sham | Jun 21 20:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 22/6/2012: Red Hat Reports Results http://ur1.ca/9jmzs #techrights | Jun 21 20:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links – NATO protest slapdown, Nokia collapsing. http://ur1.ca/9jej2 | Jun 21 20:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | even if the entire thing was taken over by libertarians, it couldn't get worse than it is now | Jun 21 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | at least the things we spend on that are clearly wasted money would be axes | Jun 21 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | *axed | Jun 21 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | and some of their platform, you'd get no argument from me about at all | Jun 21 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Repeal the U SAP AT RIOT ACT? | Jun 21 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | that alone might get my support | Jun 21 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | get rid of the Toilet Security Administration? | Jun 21 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | fucking take them | Jun 21 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | libertarianism might not be an ideal form of government but it is preferable to fascism | Jun 21 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Social Libertarianism gets a 100% approval rating from me | Jun 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | Fiscal? Maybe 50% | Jun 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | some of the cuts they want to make go too far | Jun 21 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | repealing Social Security, Medicare, and Food stamps entirely goes too far | Jun 21 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | going over them and eliminating waste and fraud would be much better | Jun 21 20:18 |
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| DaemonFC | we shouldn't focus on ending public safety nets, we should focus harder on eliminating the reasons people need to use them in the first place | Jun 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | the federal reserve's policies guarantee that unemployment will be a persistent issue | Jun 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | even if the Federal Reserve did start charging 0% interest, it wouldn't help at this point | Jun 21 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | and it would only be temporary if they did | Jun 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | you can perk up a dying houseplant but you can't bring one back from the dead | Jun 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | unless you're Jesus I guess..... :) | Jun 21 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | at this point, the only Federal Reserve policy that would stimulate the economy is to pay negative interest out on all their loans, and to keep doing it for many years | Jun 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | and we KNOW they will not do that | Jun 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | small short term consumer loans with a negative interest would be what you see when a person uses a cashback credit card and then pays it all off before interest starts to accumulate | Jun 21 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | you're effectively borrowing from the bank and they're paying you to do it | Jun 21 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | but it's a gateway drug that is meant to promote irresponsible long term behavior | Jun 21 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | because at some point, people will start carrying a balance and the interest the bank charges will wipe out the incentive | Jun 21 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | something like that would never happen on a larger scale because the bank would start losing money | Jun 21 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | there's no way the Federal Reserve could ever compensate the United States government for all the interest it has bled out of the money supply | Jun 21 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | they'd go under in a matter of months, they wouldn't even last a full year | Jun 21 20:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Top #opensource #cloud headlines this week w/ @Rackspace @Eucalyptuscloud @North_Bridge http://bit.ly/KXmp8f | Jun 21 20:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Me sleepy time. And a slow waltz in Vienna in the next ten years. G'night. | Jun 21 20:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The United Kingdom has it's own central banking nightmare, so does the Eurozone, so does a lot of the world | Jun 21 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Japan is really feeling the hurt right now | Jun 21 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | well, the people that have to prop up the system feel the hurt, but they're just peasants anyway! | Jun 21 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure the people at the top have converted as much of their own wealth into gold or commodities as possible at this point and will let the 99% ride out the collapse | Jun 21 20:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Download “Plunder: The Crime Of Our Time” | Disinformation http://goo.gl/Kou2Q #docs | Jun 21 20:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-talks-on-surrendering-some-of-impds-duties-to-sheriff-reportedly-underway-20120621,0,5058771.column | Jun 21 20:55 |
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| DaemonFC | Unigov.... | Jun 21 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | Dick Lugars gift that keeps on fucking | Jun 21 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad that he's gone from the US Senate, but not about what's (probably) replacing him | Jun 21 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | he lost the Republican primary this year so unless Joe Donnelly (the Democrat) gets in, we will have another teabagger in the Senate | Jun 21 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | there's at least the chance that the teabagger plot to get rid of Lugar will backfire on them | Jun 21 20:57 |
| DaemonFC | as support for Donnelly and the teabagger (Mourdock) is split down the middle | Jun 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | too close to call | Jun 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | so we are getting a lot of nasty Republican Super PAC TV ads | Jun 21 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | tessier: This is the real damage that Corporations United has done | Jun 21 20:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I think @bkuhn has been #troll'ed (see last paragraph): http://ur1.ca/9jn55 | Jun 21 20:58 | |
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| DaemonFC | it will reflect the most on the composition of the House of Representatives, and to a slightly lesser degree, the US Senate, than it will on the presidency | Jun 21 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | the House of Representatives is set up to be the most populist/partison branch of the federal government | Jun 21 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | so that's why you always see the most extremist/fringe lunatic stuff coming from them | Jun 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | *partisan | Jun 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | the Senate tends to be a lot more sane because it reflects the average political attitude of the United States over a rolling 6 year cycle | Jun 21 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | and the minority party can do more in the Senate than they can in the House | Jun 21 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | it's not to say that extremists can't get in, but they can do less damage when they get there | Jun 21 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | if you think what the US government does now is insane, get rid of the Senate and you haven't seen the half of it yet | Jun 21 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/21/us-usa-farm-senate-idUSBRE85K1JU20120621 | Jun 21 21:09 |
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| DaemonFC | "Maybe we've done something special here," said Kansas Senator Pat Roberts, the Republican leader on the committee who worked closely with Stabenow on the bill. "Even in the middle of an election year, we can get something done." | Jun 21 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | yes, it is truly amazing what they can get done when they......have all the same special interests bribing them | Jun 21 21:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Scam Wall Street Learned From the Mafia http://identi.ca/url/72391935 | Jun 21 21:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Hidden US-Israeli Military Agenda: "Break #Syria into Pieces" http://goo.gl/OP3lR #israel #usa #stateterrorism | Jun 21 22:08 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] THE COUP OF 2012: Encroachment upon Basic Freedoms, Militarized Police State in America http://goo.gl/KU8ec #usa #policestate - very int... | Jun 21 22:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Nomnomnom at Cafe 100wasser, Simon-Dach-Str. Berlin http://ur1.ca/9jdih... http://b1t.it/bEi2 | Jun 21 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Simon Phipps http://ur1.ca/9jdj7 | Jun 21 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Remember, !ACTA is just a part of the War on Fun: http://rys.io/en/41.txt !copyfraud | Jun 21 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] OAP told: Take down atheist poster or you'll be arrested http://goo.gl/v5gpz | Jun 21 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rysiek Meanwhile, on the other side of the internets, the petition to Save !ACTA gets support! http://saveacta.com/ !copyfraud | Jun 21 00:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @robmyers Currently despairing at artists about copyright and coders about art. Lawyers, there's a trifecta to be had here, pls halp... | Jun 21 00:26 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Canada has joined #TPP negotiations: @OpenMedia_ca wants to hear from Canadian Internet users about their concerns https://eff.org/r.2adv | Jun 21 00:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Nina Paley Explains Intellectual Disobedience http://goo.gl/cUSxB | Jun 21 00:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jonah Lehrer apologizes for copying his own work http://goo.gl/y3OCx what a fucked up world we live in | Jun 21 00:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Denmark Ditches Warning Letters, Launches Soft War On Piracy - http://bit.ly/NQgsOT at least someone is getting sensible #dk | Jun 21 00:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Oracle agrees to 'zero' damages in #Google lawsuit, eyes appeal - http://bit.ly/MjEeRN what an utter waste of time & effort (v @webmink) | Jun 21 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UN Non-Takeover Of The Net: ITU’s Touré Calls For Documents To Be Public - http://bit.ly/LkTSMB hopeful sign? #transparency | Jun 21 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] lol http://goo.gl/CsHh0 Biker Scout on gerbil #StarWars | Jun 21 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents - http://bit.ly/LgDjmX well, obvs... #swpats | Jun 21 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora 17 #KDE review http://ur1.ca/9jdpn #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 21 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WCITLeaks Gets Results - http://bit.ly/NUreEV & here's v good analysis of what's really going on with that #ITU call for #transparency | Jun 21 00:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Red Hat Expansion Begins http://ur1.ca/9jdpz #redhat #gnu #linux | Jun 21 00:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How a rape survivor could change #Afghanistan - http://bit.ly/Mv5lXC come on, Karzai, do something... #epetition | Jun 21 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Just Relax Canada, U.S. Pharma Wll Handle It - http://bit.ly/MyHkNj ha! nicely done #TPP | Jun 21 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Will Microsoft's Windows Phone 8 Move Put Nokia's Current Business on Ice? - http://ur1.ca/9jdsf even #MS is putting the knife into #Nokia | Jun 21 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Desktops and Linux Personalities: What's Your Perfect Match? http://ur1.ca/9jdsh #gnu #linux | Jun 21 00:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #ZorinOS 6 Core http://ur1.ca/9jdsv #gnu #linux | Jun 21 00:33 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @jxself Microsoft says Restricted Boot is a "feature"? http://ur1.ca/9jdbk "Features" should be disableable, IMO. !fsf #restrictedboot | Jun 21 00:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Aqui vou eu para mais uma noite @work…podia ser pior! | Jun 21 00:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #RedHat Reports First Quarter Results http://ur1.ca/9jdwh #linux continues to experience growth | Jun 21 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #INTA Committee Must Reject #ACTA http://ur1.ca/9ja8y #eu | Jun 21 00:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ubuntu is good on BRIC http://ur1.ca/9jdwq | Jun 21 00:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Shuttleworth on #Ubuntu Linux, Fedora, and the #UEFI problem http://ur1.ca/9jcan unlike Red Hat, at least he talks about it | Jun 21 00:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How to Land the Best Linux Job http://ur1.ca/9jdxj #linux | Jun 21 00:41 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Some people would say I ought to have used the word "fewer" there, but this is 140land and "less" is shorter (I'm tired) | Jun 21 00:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Summary: Early proof that Microsoft’s vapourware is embarrassingly bad | Jun 21 01:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Summary: Early proof that Microsoft’s vapourware is embarrassingly bad | Jun 21 01:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks 500 Free Movies Online: Great Classics, Indies, Noir, Westerns, etc. Innovation under Austerity Th http://ur1.ca/9jej2 | Jun 21 01:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks 500 Free Movies Online: Great Classics, Indies, Noir, Westerns, etc. Innovation under Austerity Th http://ur1. ... | Jun 21 01:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !GNU !Linuxlibre 3.2.21-gnu mipsel binaries for !gnewsense !yeeloong are now available | Jun 21 01:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Ubuntu hour Waterloo at the Duke !ubuntuca http://identi.ca/attachment/72370773 | Jun 21 01:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Ubuntuca Hour http://identi.ca/attachment/72370913 | Jun 21 02:06 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @BartBecks: Totaal mee eens! RT @GeertNoels: Proficiat Studio100. ... Bewondering geen afgunst & http://ur1. ... | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @bdesmet_ Ge gaat te veel met te jonge mensen om ;) @deviskar | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ssdawes: @timdavies: 5 stars of #opendata: demand, context, conversation, capacity, collaboration f http://ur1. ... | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @sanderlaridon Ja, ik vond het niet slecht :) | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @SanderLaridon highrise? | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @DirDigEng: "Install 18,000 real time displays on bus-stops? Or release #opendata so others can buil http://ur1. ... | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @batistleman yes, never go solo | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @ramonsuarez haha, nice! | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @BetweenMyths: The Data Tank - platform to open up data through a RESTful API http://t.co/MCEMbVEL # http://ur1. ... | Jun 21 02:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ramonsuarez: An idea for @tweetwallpro and #flatturtle? http://t.co/hfJSCTLd #digitalsignage | Jun 21 02:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @MCautreels: Presenting #CityBattle, a result of #RHoKBe @ #odd12 http://t.co/UvCGw33F and in the en http://ur1. ... | Jun 21 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Simon_Gee logisch, anders is het niet lineair #totaalgeenidee | Jun 21 02:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Fix my transport in Brussels - can't agree more with the "where's my villo" project #geniuses http://t.co/YCF4Owa8 | Jun 21 02:11 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for June 21, 2012 http://ur1.ca/9jf6p | Jun 21 02:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Time Warner Cable Patents Method For Disabling Fast-Forward Function On DVRs http://goo.gl/HfCav sad; patenting consumer hostile features | Jun 21 02:38 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Time Warner Cable Patents Method For Disabling Fast-Forward Function On DVRs - Slashdot .::. Size~: 217.04 KB | Jun 21 02:38 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] any company making DVRs with features consumers want (ad skipping) get sued into oblivion over #patent infringement | Jun 21 02:41 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. Eclipse and OpenShift integration: http://ur1.ca/9jfdr #in | Jun 21 03:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Brief analysis of the latest developments in the debate about #DNT "The Sabotage of Do Not Track" http://t. http://p.ost.im/p/ecdq7B | Jun 21 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @olivergajda I want 27 digital champions - but you need to push yr government if they ha http://p.ost.im/p/ecSBnL | Jun 21 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @_H4K: Thank you so much @doctorow @NeelieKroesEU for the great speech given at the EUhackathon #H4K http://p.ost.im/p/ecj4C6 | Jun 21 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: #DigitalHumanities RT @nadia_z: Great take on teaching digital to academia RT @dmlcentral PhD Lab in Digita http://p.ost.im/p/echJvR | Jun 21 03:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @FionaFanning I prefer all Europeans digital! But while u can lead a horse 2 water u can http://p.ost.im/p/ecASYU | Jun 21 03:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: "Access to EU company data is very poor, Neelie" http://t.co/73IZZ8GL @opencorporates responds to @NeelieKr http://p.ost.im/p/echFYd | Jun 21 03:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | the cable company patents fast forward disable on DVR, raises rates...... | Jun 21 04:18 |
| DaemonFC | why are people still paying for this crap? | Jun 21 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | slap an antenna on the TV, save yourself the money | Jun 21 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | there's better things to spend it on | Jun 21 04:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] This --» "@missbwalya: When Kanye is done with Kim K, is Flava Flav next?" | Jun 21 04:23 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@engadget: Google to pay $0 in damages to Oracle, wait for appeal - http://t.co/Q3mQpCoM" | Jun 21 04:26 | |
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| XFaCE | DaemonFC: in many areas of canada, OTA sucks | Jun 21 04:30 |
| XFaCE | even Ottawa, the capital city, sucks | Jun 21 04:30 |
| XFaCE | in terms of OTA | Jun 21 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | don't you have anything like PBS at least? | Jun 21 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | there's usually something at least somewhat interesting on that | Jun 21 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | I get my local ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX affiliates and their subchannels, the CW, 4 PBS stations, and WGN | Jun 21 04:32 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: no | Jun 21 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | that's with a $30 antenna from Walmart | Jun 21 04:32 |
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| XFaCE | ottawa is like CBC, CTV, A channel, and a smattering of french channels | Jun 21 04:33 |
| XFaCE | that's pretty much it | Jun 21 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | I get quite a lot considering it's over the air and on an indoor antenna | Jun 21 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | I must be in a good location | Jun 21 04:33 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: Our digital transition was a joke | Jun 21 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | the cable companies have been trying to kill free over the air TV for years | Jun 21 04:34 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: well, if that's the state in the US | Jun 21 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | every time they go after it, there's thousands of public comments against it and they back off | Jun 21 04:35 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: think of the situation in the oligopoly haven CAnada | Jun 21 04:35 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: | Jun 21 04:35 |
| XFaCE | mull that over for a bit | Jun 21 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | they don't care if the local stations stay, they just want to be the only way to get them | Jun 21 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | this way you MUST spend at least $15 a month on cable | Jun 21 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | it also makes the local stations entirely dependent on a large multinational multibillion dollar cable industry | Jun 21 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | so you'll start seeing where Comcast really dictates what they run | Jun 21 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | XFaCE: No CBC? | Jun 21 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 21 04:38 |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: yes cbc,until Duchess kills it | Jun 21 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | you might be able to pick up some stations from the US if you live close enough to the border | Jun 21 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | there's still thousands of them here | Jun 21 04:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] !Kenyans have KES 72B [USD ~1 B ] in secret Swiss bank accounts. #inthedailies | Jun 21 04:41 | |
| XFaCE | DaemonFC: that is true | Jun 21 04:42 |
| XFaCE | Ottawa is stuck in a neither region from the perspective of the border | Jun 21 04:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] CR7 makes it look so easy. | Jun 21 04:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] @evan's got the cutest kids ever! http://ur1.ca/9jfq0 | Jun 21 04:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] My website is still down. :-( | Jun 21 04:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@ceciliauddenm: Reinstalling the #Mubarak regime ... 90% complete ██████████████████████████████████░░░ #Egypt #SCAF #Shafik #MB" | Jun 21 04:58 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "Many are cold, but few are frozen" | Jun 21 05:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] #np Dashboard Confessional - Saints and Sailors «from Places I Have come to fear the most» | Jun 21 05:11 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Just reshared the lyrics to Sarah McLachlan's Fallen [2003] on Diaspora* Will post url shortly. | Jun 21 05:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] port knox. I like the sound of that. | Jun 21 05:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Khali Jonez - Room 16 #np | Jun 21 05:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Xtatic is just too good! | Jun 21 05:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@BoingBoing: G4S boss predicts mass privatisation of UK police forces http://t.co/MQyLVDBh" | Jun 21 05:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Ubuntu Accomplishments 0.2: One Week Later - http://is.gd/461kkK #ubuntu | Jun 21 06:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ubuntu Accomplishments 0.2: One Week Later | jonobacon@home .::. Size~: 28 KB | Jun 21 06:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] "LEGEA BIG BROTHER" a fost promulgată http://ur1.ca/9hi3m #romania #censorship #ue | Jun 21 06:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Class bummed. Yay! | Jun 21 06:26 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: "LEGEA BIG BROTHER" a fost promulgată de Traian Băsescu. Ce informaţii vor stoca furnizorii de telefonie şi internet - Gandul .::. Size~: 71.13 KB | Jun 21 06:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] We all begin with good intent... | Jun 21 06:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Love was raw and young | Jun 21 06:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] We believed we could change ourselves... | Jun 21 06:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The past could be undone.. | Jun 21 06:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Firmele nu vor mai putea sa monitorizeze telefonul sau e-mailul angajatilor fara consimtamant http://ur1.ca/9jg62 #romania #censorship | Jun 21 06:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Firmele nu vor mai putea sa monitorizeze telefonul sau e-mailul angajatilor fara consimtamantul acestora .::. Size~: 51.9 KB | Jun 21 06:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Listen to your books (ePUB or PDF) with Okular, KDE's PDF Reader http://ur1.ca/9jg6t #e-book #gnu #foss #linux #kde #okular #pdf | Jun 21 06:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@obeez: Two things to remember: Don't make decisions when you're angry, and don't make promises when you're happy." | Jun 21 06:51 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Listen to your books (ePUB or PDF) with Okular, KDE's PDF Reader .::. Size~: 52.8 KB | Jun 21 06:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents http://ur1.ca/9jg7d #eff #software #patent #law #rights | Jun 21 07:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 42.6 KB | Jun 21 07:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] uber COOL! http://www.sipml5.org/ /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis @dennisMungai @mralanorth @nj3ma @flintsoul @dammim @evansonwachira | Jun 21 07:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] The Thunder made a mistake. Should have stayed big throughout the game. #game4 #nba | Jun 21 07:26 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Derek Fisher for Perkins was a strange substitution. #nba #okc #playoffs | Jun 21 07:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] cc @sergiodj ♻ @rsandu: Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents http://ur1.ca/9jg7d | Jun 21 07:31 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Opinion: EFF should call for the elimination of software patents | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 42.37 KB | Jun 21 07:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94777676 http://identi.ca/notice/94777632 | Jun 21 07:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:58:29 UTC - Identi.ca: #assange is so badly daemonised (and wanted by Western plutocrats) that he needs to run away like an ex-Nazi officer.Truth the new "nazism"? | Jun 21 07:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:54:53 UTC - Identi.ca: #Ecuador offers #Wikileaks founder #Assange residency http://ur1.ca/9j7oj I doubt the world's boss (USA) will permit this | Jun 21 07:51 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Informed the tumehama.com Android app is shaping up nicely. | Jun 21 07:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94777241 http://identi.ca/notice/94777066 | Jun 21 07:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:19:21 UTC - Identi.ca: First Mandriva Foundation Meeting a Success http://ur1.ca/9jdsn #mandriva #gnu #linux | Jun 21 07:53 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jun-12 22:03:28 UTC - Identi.ca: #Fedora 17 Review (KDE & GNOME) http://ur1.ca/9jdqy #gnu #linux #redhat | Jun 21 07:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/PGPBOARD/statuses/215589981748592640 | Jun 21 07:55 |
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| schestowitz | "Offered in 2010 and then rapidly revoked... Nothing to do with current #assange situation... desperate spin and misinformation" | Jun 21 07:55 |
| scientes | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=23655 | Jun 21 08:10 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] #LibreOffice Conference supported by the German Federal Ministries of the Interior and of Economics and Technology: http://wp.me/p1byPE-i3 | Jun 21 08:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] As @robanskie , narrates his dreams from last night. Apparently we'd gone fishing. | Jun 21 08:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@theQ_21: #ThoughtsAfterTheCondomPopped "well you see the way my bank account is set up...."" gnr! | Jun 21 08:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@Amayi_: Married people should worry less about who wears the pants in the relationship and more about why anyone wore pants at all." | Jun 21 08:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU #Linux is a Winner http://ur1.ca/9jgrs | Jun 21 08:43 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1729328 | Jun 21 08:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Is #Calligra A Great Alternative to LibreOffice? http://maketecheasier.com/is-calligra-a-great-alternative-to-libreoffice/2012/06/18 #kde #odf | Jun 21 08:50 |
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| schestowitz | flame war | Jun 21 08:50 |
| schestowitz | "Caligra seems to be nice, but it is a QT-based applications and that's a blocker for many people" | Jun 21 08:50 |
| schestowitz | "Qt is a blocker? It's sad people see it that way." | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | Not really. I can't speak for everyone, but to me it [sometimes] brings inconsistency across UI. It also brings new dependencies, and in QT case there are quite some dependencies ... | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | So using just that one QT app [or rather an office suite] requires installation of many KDE libraries. | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | PS got to try out Calligra on my other OS just to see how it works. I was affraid of dependency list, but I'll give it a go. | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | You know, dependencies don't bite, or eat your cat. | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | They're just packages, sitting in your hard drive. People nowadays have several GiB of RAM on their machines, and hundreds of GiB of hard drive storage, and still worry about installing... 100 MiB of packages? | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | Oh well, if people decide to ignore great software because they are "scared of dependencies", it's their loss. | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Copyright and pirates [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9jgsp speaks for the inadequacy of the term as ascribed to copyright infringement. | Jun 21 08:51 | |
| schestowitz | "i tried it but didn't really like it" | Jun 21 08:51 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Copyright terrorism"? | Jun 21 08:51 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Wikipedia suggests that, based on its logs, Windows usage declines by about half a percent every month. #android and #gnu #linux do well. | Jun 21 08:51 | |
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| schestowitz | "@JanKusanagi - I hear you. Well, I'm just a minimalist who doesn't like to mess with too many stuff, but as I said I'd try Calligra anyway." | Jun 21 08:51 |
| schestowitz | "I will test it when I will have time. For now I'm glad with LibreOffice." | Jun 21 08:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 08:52 |
| schestowitz | I've already tested it. Actually, it doesn't suit my need, although it's not that bad ;) I have only one problem: Calligra doesn't open ODT documents in same way as LibreOffice does. It moves the whole content few lines down, so it is not identical to what LO shows. I don't have to say ODT is a standard. It should be looking the same everywhere." | Jun 21 08:52 |
| schestowitz | "Oh it's a problem for me because I use the ODT format and not want lost time to convert all just for use it with a other software." | Jun 21 08:52 |
| schestowitz | "@Stef20 - don't get me wrong. It does open ODT files, but they look a little bit different. I don't know the actual cause. It may be different font formatting. I am - by no means - an expert when it comes to office suits." | Jun 21 08:52 |
| schestowitz | "Sorry if I read you bad, I will try it when I will have time." | Jun 21 08:53 |
| schestowitz | "@Stef20 - it's my fault. I'm being grumpy about Calligra, where in fact it is a nice office suit. It is just not my cup of tea ;)" | Jun 21 08:53 |
| schestowitz | "It's me read to fast when the english is not my language is better take my time :-D" | Jun 21 08:53 |
| schestowitz | "Well, it's not my native language either. ;) so don't worry. We all make many mistakes." | Jun 21 08:53 |
| schestowitz | "@exn: the problem is not that Calligra has QT dependencies. The problem are the really bloaty KDE libs which are needed. A system using only ONE framework looks nice but is hard to achieve if you decide choosing your own applications. AND you can get a quite consistent user interface if you use the QGTKStyle engine for Qt." | Jun 21 08:53 |
| schestowitz | "It won't save to .doc format. Like it or not, that IS the standard text document format for almost everyone, and as a result this is probably dead in the water already. Shame, because it might have been good." | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | @penguinized - I know. I also used this GTKQT style. | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | @Ancient - really? my default document format is odt and I can open it under every odt-compatible application, not just one ;) | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Besides - my friends use ODT too. Oh, and I can send them PDF with embedded ODT, so they can edit it later if they wish ... | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | Word has problems opening documents created in previous versions. Now, that's a standard! | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | "Best way to improve Calligra ODF support is to send them files that break it. They cry out for these things at [ODF Plugfests](http://odfplugfest.org/). If you suffer a problem, at least let it contribute to the solution." | Jun 21 08:54 |
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| schestowitz | "@Sam Tuke - If something shows differently in Libre Office and in Calligra, which do you submit the bug to?" | Jun 21 08:54 |
| schestowitz | qt oughtn't be a turnoff, it makes cross-platform east. | Jun 21 08:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: It's 2016, and Chrome OS is ascendant http://ur1.ca/9jgtx a #linux with antifeatures | Jun 21 09:00 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Dell #linux is getting pretty big http://ur1.ca/9jguj (Dell to bring Ubuntu laptops to 850 retail stores in India) | Jun 21 09:01 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] liveblogging of #INTA session by @Falkvinge - http://bit.ly/Mulfna live stream here: mms://livewms.europarl.europa.eu/reflector:30173 #ACTA | Jun 21 09:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Legea supravegherii Internetului: cine sunt cei 197? http://ur1.ca/9jgv6 #romania #censorship #bigbrother #politics #vote | Jun 21 09:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Wipro launches desktop PC for SMBs with #gnu #linux preinalled http://ur1.ca/9jgvc #india #wipro | Jun 21 09:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] G'Morning to you too @inscius, !tzag !identiverse | Jun 21 09:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So Nokias flagship, the Lumia 900, will not get an update on Windows Phone 8? Seems Microsofts partnership with Nokia ... http://b1t.it/bEo4 | Jun 21 09:08 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1732191 | Jun 21 09:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rsandu@joindiaspora.com: ## Legea supravegherii Internetului: cine sunt cei 197? http://ur1.ca/9jgv6 #romania #censorship #bigbrother #politics #vote | Jun 21 09:09 |
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| schestowitz | English explanation might help | Jun 21 09:09 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Openaccess may require funds to be rationed - http://bit.ly/NbXAFl sounds like new #FUD to me... (v @RickyPo) | Jun 21 09:16 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fedora #Linux 18 Set to Redefine the Initial User Experience http://ur1.ca/9jgxd #gnu #redhat | Jun 21 09:16 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Copyright Ratchet In Action Again: UK Introduces Yet Another Unjustified Extension - http://bit.ly/M893aS evidence, what's that? | Jun 21 09:18 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Copyright Ratchet In Action Again: UK Introduces Yet Another Unjustified Extension | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.32 KB | Jun 21 09:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Humble Team Responds to The Petition Filed by Linux Users http://ur1.ca/9jgxu #games #gnu #linux | Jun 21 09:21 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Humble Team Responds to The Petition Filed by Linux Users ~ Ubuntu Vibes | Daily Ubuntu Linux Updates .::. Size~: 225.28 KB | Jun 21 09:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google Fights to Save 3,054 Languages - http://on.mash.to/MMSEG8 really important stuff - kudos #linguistics | Jun 21 09:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help test Ubuntu for Android - http://bit.ly/Nc0fyK an offer you can't refuse (if you live in #london) | Jun 21 09:31 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GIMP 2.8 on Linux: a Story of Pride and Pain http://ur1.ca/9jgzk #gnu #linux | Jun 21 09:31 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] And this goes all the way up to 11! ;) ♻ @jerezim: Some votes go 15 to 14... #ACTA vote is going to be very close... #INTA | Jun 21 09:36 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@IgorOstrowski PL współprzewodnicym Kongresu UNESCO dot. otwartych zasobów edukacyjnych #oercongress Za chwilę prezentacja Cyfrowej Szkoły | Jun 21 09:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: RT if you hope to take a holiday in #Ecuador if #Assange is granted asylum there. Tourist dollars YES! US economic blackmail NO! | Jun 21 09:38 | |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com.au/bt-blocks-pirate-bay-in-uk-to-no-avail-339340073.htm | Jun 21 09:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BT blocks Pirate Bay in UK to no avail - Business - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 121.94 KB | Jun 21 09:41 |
| iophk | http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18518777 | Jun 21 09:42 |
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| iophk | "Our internet policy is not being run by our elected representatives, it is being dictated by the music industry." | Jun 21 09:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9jh1f | Jun 21 09:43 | |
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| schestowitz | iophk: exactly | Jun 21 09:44 |
| iophk | Even the term 'music industry' is a misnomer. The parties involved have precious little with the actual creation of music. | Jun 21 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #BT bends obver to #MAFIAA http://ur1.ca/9jh1o what about #Linux torrents? | Jun 21 09:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: BT blocks Pirate Bay in UK to no avail - Business - News - ZDNet Australia .::. Size~: 121.92 KB | Jun 21 09:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Our internet policy is not being run by our elected representatives, it is being dictated by the music industry." http://ur1.ca/9jh1x | Jun 21 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA additional voter - representing non-aligned...not sure what this means in practice... #ACTA | Jun 21 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Office net today is slow! just when I needed to update brand new !fedora + !ghostbsd installs, guess it's Fedora today, GhostBSD tomorrow | Jun 21 09:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The "music industry." did not call for a ban on TPB. It's the *recording* industry (distribution middlemen) that did this to exploit better | Jun 21 09:46 | |
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| schestowitz | "too bad Shuttleworth seems to have never discovered/funded GIMPShop development... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop#" http://www.sutor.com/c/2012/06/testing-wordpress-3-4s-new-twitter-integration/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BobSutor+%28Bob+Sutor%29 | Jun 21 09:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] huh? | Jun 21 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] last dent directed @sandersch | Jun 21 09:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "ties between businessmen and the government influence the economy and society to the extent that it corrupts" http://ur1.ca/9jh28 | Jun 21 09:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] ACTA vote in INTA will be 14:14 as it seems. Industry lobby in front of room with banners. Hollywood in Brussels. | Jun 21 09:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kto nie skacze - ten za !ACTA! Komisja INTA będzie głosować nad ACTA w ciągu najbliższych minut. !copyfraud | Jun 21 09:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Karen and Runa answers questions on @Reddit: https://pay.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/vdhs8/hi_iama_we_are_core_members_of_the_tor_project/ | Jun 21 10:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hi IAmA! We are core members of the Tor Project. Ask us anything! : IAmA .::. Size~: 48.02 KB | Jun 21 10:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Via @falkvinge live blog on ACTA in INTA:"10:36 - The list of amendments on the still-upcoming ACTA vote is here, in L... http://b1t.it/bEqJ | Jun 21 10:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @torproject Karen and Runa answers questions on @Reddit: http://ur1.ca/9jh9c ... | Jun 21 10:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hi IAmA! We are core members of the Tor Project. Ask us anything! : IAmA .::. Size~: 64.88 KB | Jun 21 10:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Google Fights to Save 3,054 Languages - http://on.mash.to/MMSEG8 really important stuff - kudos #linguistics | Jun 21 10:28 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] INTA up from 27 to now 31 voters. ACTA last vote. Should happen next few minutes. All amendments MUST fail in order to get a rejection. | Jun 21 10:28 | |
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| MinceR | r4wr | Jun 21 10:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA vote in #INTA happening now... | Jun 21 10:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA vote on decision to postpone - against - yes | Jun 21 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA -there were 32 votes - call for recount | Jun 21 10:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA revote on postponement - still rejected #ACTA | Jun 21 10:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #INTA vote to adopt recommendation to reject #ACTA | Jun 21 10:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA - I don't think I'm going to survive another one of these nailbiting sessions.... #INTA | Jun 21 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] INTA recommends a REJECTION of #ACTA, rejecting the attempt to postpone by a 19-12 vote! WE WON! | Jun 21 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@jerezim @teirdes @telecomix @panoptykon @EDRi_org and many, many others - thank you. This is a glorious day. | Jun 21 10:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] White space and it's possible effect on broadband in #Kenya http://ur1.ca/9jhbr | Jun 21 10:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @wtebbens We won!!! The EC's #INTA just voted to recommend the rejection of #ACTA. <3 #lqdn and #freeculture movement!! !fk | Jun 21 10:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody #INTA vote to adopt recommendation to reject #ACTA | Jun 21 10:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] "@DesignKenya: "Anything that is too stupid to be spoken is sung." ~ Voltaire #WordToKapukaArtists" | Jun 21 10:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Not one person in the committee was able to put forward a position in favour of # ACTA." - http://bit.ly/PyGu7y says it all #INTA | Jun 21 11:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] If my math is right, there were 13 MEPs from pro-acta groups; 1 voted against !ACTA. Thank you, Mr Zalewski! :) !poland | Jun 21 11:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Freie Software !fs Raspberry Pi hilft Drohne bei Rettungsmissionen http://ur1.ca/9jhie | Jun 21 11:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] "Surface vs. iPad: Microsoft's Getting Rusty Stealing from Apple" - http://ur1.ca/9jhiq #fb #in lol! | Jun 21 11:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody "Not one person in the committee was able to put forward a position in favour of # ACTA." - http://bit.ly/PyGu7y says it a ... | Jun 21 11:23 | |
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| MinceR | "stealing from apple" -- yet another one who hasn't heard of tablet pcs before the hypepad | Jun 21 11:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Victory! INTA in chaos. We won! | Jun 21 11:28 | |
| iophk | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-20/yahoo-says-executive-vice-president-rich-riley-will-depart-1-.html | Jun 21 11:31 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@panoptykon Not quite. EPP+ECR = 15 votes while ALDE + Greens + NI = 16. It means not only Mr Zalewski and Mr Szymański were against !ACTA! | Jun 21 11:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] INTA adopts vote against ACTA. De Gucht did not get his postponement. Parliament will vote in plenary. | Jun 21 11:38 | |
| iophk | http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/28/magazine/the-way-we-live-now-9-28-03-questions-for-linus-torvalds-the-sharer.html | Jun 21 11:41 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Hacker Group Demands "Idiot Tax" From Payday Lender http://goo.gl/vj5nK | Jun 21 11:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] I'll leave it here, though bit.ly/L7mmFk #Microsoft #Apple !lol | Jun 21 11:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Google To Pay $0 To #Oracle In Copyright Case http://goo.gl/knkS8 not exactly the whopping win @fosspatents was pimping as #justice | Jun 21 11:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Copyright Ratchet In Action Again: UK Introduces Yet Another Unjustified Extension http://goo.gl/u5p8k | Jun 21 11:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Poland! My hero! Via @falkvinge: "12:10 - EPP: It appears that the Polish EPP delegates voted against ACTA, breaking party lines." | Jun 21 12:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The coming revolution in STM #scholpub - http://bit.ly/M8YwOU long, important post analysing this area #openaccess | Jun 21 12:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - The coming revolution in STM #scholpub « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 26.22 KB | Jun 21 12:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK Communications Bill Creates Dangerous Database - http://bit.ly/LEN49s another big battle we must win #surveillance | Jun 21 12:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] FTR, it was 11:35 when INTA voted and thus adopted the rejection of ACTA. Again via @falkvinge:"11:35 - The recommenda... http://b1t.it/bEsV | Jun 21 12:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - FTR, it was 11:35 when INTA voted and thus adopted the… .::. Size~: 127.65 KB | Jun 21 12:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: Copyright and pirates [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9jgsp speaks for the inadequacy of the term as ascribed to copyright infringement. | Jun 21 12:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@Asher_Wolf "In the end it came down to vote on IP or civil liberties and I'm glad that civil liberties won over" MEP David Martin on !ACTA | Jun 21 12:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @zack RT @planetdebian Matthew Garrett: Ubuntu ODM UEFI requirements for secure boot - http://ur1.ca/9j4hg | Jun 21 12:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: mjg59 | Ubuntu ODM UEFI requirements for secure boot .::. Size~: 68.59 KB | Jun 21 12:40 |
| formic_ | Interesting Ubuntu. | Jun 21 12:58 |
| iophk | Does that mean that one has to choose between, for example, Ubuntu XOR Fedora and not able to have dual boot? | Jun 21 13:01 |
| MinceR | can this uefi train wreck ship with multiple keys? | Jun 21 13:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer FTR, it was 11:35 when INTA voted and thus adopted the rejection of ACTA. Again via @falkvinge:"11:35 - The recommenda... ... | Jun 21 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jgbarah More on the Defend Innovation campaign: EFF should call for the elimination of #swpatents http://ur1.ca/9jg7d | Jun 21 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] JBoss Developer Studio 5 GA is OUT, together with JBoss Tools 3.3 Release blog: http://bit.ly/MGT9VD. Nice. #in | Jun 21 13:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @planetdebian Matthew Garrett: Ubuntu ODM UEFI requirements for secure boot - http://ur1.ca/9j4hg | Jun 21 13:13 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: mjg59 | Ubuntu ODM UEFI requirements for secure boot .::. Size~: 68.59 KB | Jun 21 13:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Your Genome, Your Data - http://bit.ly/KVYfuM are we ready for the other digital revolution? I think not... #privacy #dna | Jun 21 13:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Enrique Gutierrez http://ur1.ca/9ji7t | Jun 21 13:43 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Doubling down: FunnyJunk lawyer to subpoena Ars, Twitter - http://bit.ly/PzFqQQ </facepalm> | Jun 21 13:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Who in Berlin would join me for a beer this evening? Friedrichshain preferred. | Jun 21 13:48 | |
| iophk | http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3365466/breaking-news-european-parliament-trade-committee-recommends-rejecting-acta-treaty/ | Jun 21 13:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Breaking news: European Parliament trade committee recommends rejecting ACTA treaty - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 96.79 KB | Jun 21 13:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ACTA Update XIX - http://bit.ly/KW3U46 so we won #INTA: now it's the big one - the plenary vote on 4 July - we can do it | Jun 21 14:03 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] WE ACCIDENTALLY !ACTA, IS THAT SERIOUS?! !memes !copyfraud !lol | Jun 21 14:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] By the size of festivities on Teh Intertubes today, after !ACTA gets killed good in July, there will be dancing in the streets. | Jun 21 14:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @AnonyOps: Much #datalove to over 9000 #Anonymous who helped take #ACTA down. You know who you are, even if we don't. Final vote July 4. | Jun 21 14:17 | |
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| iophk | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120616/02302019360/acta-not-dead-yet-supporters-make-final-push-eu-approval-may-seek-secret-ballot.shtml | Jun 21 14:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: ACTA Not Dead Yet: Supporters Make Final Push For EU Approval, May Seek Secret Ballot | Techdirt .::. Size~: 90.62 KB | Jun 21 14:26 |
| iophk | A little older but still a concern. | Jun 21 14:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Massive Gold Trove Sparks Archeological Dispute - http://bit.ly/Mlxzqt fascinating (v @izakaminska) #de | Jun 21 14:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #kim_dotcom + #woz - http://bit.ly/L7Lo75 that's an image and a half... | Jun 21 14:42 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #ICANN is wrong - http://bit.ly/Mlz0VK "These things shouldn't be #TLDs, they're too important, too basic to life." | Jun 21 14:47 | |
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| iophk | A case missing in WIner's article is what happens when two trademarks from two different industry's collide. For example, there is Apple records and Apple inc (formerly Apple Computer). | Jun 21 14:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eric #Whitacre: Complete Recordings on #Spotify - http://bit.ly/MxuRM0 everybody's favourite accessible modernist | Jun 21 14:58 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "EPP still hopes to make #ACTA a good agreement through changes or additional protocols" - http://bit.ly/KPdLxi NB: this is their strategy | Jun 21 15:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unprecedented Vote: EU Parliament Trade Committee Rejects ACTA | Intellectual Property Watch .::. Size~: 43.12 KB | Jun 21 15:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Penguin brings e-books back to NYC libraries - http://bit.ly/LiFHd1 "Each e-book will expire after a year" - literature no longer immortal | Jun 21 15:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Penguin brings e-books back to NYC libraries in 1-year pilot program (no Kindle yet) — paidContent .::. Size~: 68.99 KB | Jun 21 15:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] “If we can set a goal to sequence the human genome for $99, then why not $99 for scholarly publishing?" - http://bit.ly/MC1yWt quite | Jun 21 15:12 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - #scholpub, PeerJ and Tim O’Reilly « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 22.5 KB | Jun 21 15:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Science as an open enterprise - http://bit.ly/Mvzd8n #royalsociety report; not read it yet...anyone? (v @michael_nielsen) #openscience | Jun 21 15:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Drone dogfights by 2015? U.S. Navy preps for futuristic combat - http://cnet.co/NYmf6a I'm amazed we haven't heard more about this | Jun 21 15:17 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Drone dogfights by 2015? U.S. Navy preps for futuristic combat | Road Trip - CNET News .::. Size~: 102.61 KB | Jun 21 15:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hello @Kevie I am back now. | Jun 21 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. | Jun 21 15:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #OpenAccess strategy wars - http://bit.ly/MlEksn yes, we are entering the big pushback. needed: a counter-push... | Jun 21 15:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Just found out how to pronounce #JIRA | Jun 21 15:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Warlord: Chechnya's Boss-for-Life Joins Twitter - http://bit.ly/LF3E9h bizarre | Jun 21 15:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: #Warlord: Chechnya's Boss-for-Life Joins Twitter | Danger Room | Wired.com .::. Size~: 59.8 KB | Jun 21 15:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jumping Off The Burning Platform: #Nokia Knew It Was Stuck On WP7 When It Signed On - http://tcrn.ch/KB1KdA class action on its way? | Jun 21 15:47 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jumping Off The Burning Platform: Nokia Knew It Was Stuck On WP7 When It Signed On | TechCrunch .::. Size~: 72.9 KB | Jun 21 15:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jordigh/@jordigh] I covet this so much: http://ur1.ca/8diif | Jun 21 15:48 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Penguin Air GNU/Linux notebook | ThinkPenguin.com .::. Size~: 22.58 KB | Jun 21 15:48 |
| iophk | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304898704577480340752531300.html | Jun 21 15:53 |
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| iophk | http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-meltemi-survivors-suggest-axed-os-was-nearly-ready-21235076/ | Jun 21 15:55 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Activists Coordinated European Opposition to #ACTA - http://bit.ly/LHiAIA good summary with lots of links #EU | Jun 21 16:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I will be at Café 100wasser from 19:30 in case someone wants to join. #berlin #evangelfest | Jun 21 16:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Activists Coordinated European Opposition to ACTA | TechPresident .::. Size~: 61.36 KB | Jun 21 16:08 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @guido RT @jerezim Let's aim for this long-awaited victory and build our post-ACTA world! But let's celebrate first! http://ur1.ca/9j ... | Jun 21 16:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Maximum (32) redirects followed ( http://ur1.ca/9j ) | Jun 21 16:10 |
| iophk | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406125,00.asp | Jun 21 16:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Motorola Offers to Settle Microsoft Patent Fight | News & Opinion | PCMag.com .::. Size~: 140.4 KB | Jun 21 16:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody Jumping Off The Burning Platform: #Nokia Knew It Was Stuck On WP7 When It Signed On - http://tcrn.ch/KB1KdA class action o ... | Jun 21 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I am hoping for a management buy-out and the return of Linux at Nokia. Yes, I am a dreamer. But I hate watching how th... http://b1t.it/bExS | Jun 21 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Jumping Off The Burning Platform: #Nokia Knew It Was Stuck On WP7 When It Signed On - http://tcrn.ch/KB1KdA class action on it | Jun 21 16:18 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Having fun these days discovering the Swiss music scene a little. Really like this as the summer song: http://is.gd/nRdYeh | Jun 21 16:18 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Now off to UK to meet and reward EU's top tech talent @techallstars #foundersforum http://p.ost.im/p/eckAL9 | Jun 21 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Quoting @eurohumph MT @Lionelsola: wonder why #EU institutions need #socialmedia? Read @Guardian on @Digita http://p.ost.im/p/ecUywJ | Jun 21 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @opencorporates: Reminder: our report, The Closed World of EU Company Data, is available (CC-licence) at http://p.ost.im/p/ecktaT | Jun 21 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: "Science as an open enterprise" #RoyalSociety report published http://t.co/3I172eoH, welcomed in a @NeelieK http://p.ost.im/p/ecScKs | Jun 21 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: time for a coffee w broadband hero @cyberdoyle #b4rn http://t.co/DIC4AY02 http://p.ost.im/p/ecNQU4 | Jun 21 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @sixtus: Danke für die klaren Worte zum #Leistungsschutzrecht, @DoroBaer. #lsr http://t.co/PHtkAYTF http://p.ost.im/p/evwnaw | Jun 21 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The #ACTA agreement is rejected by #INTA - http://bit.ly/L86z92 important moment capture for posterity (v @dozykraut) #pix | Jun 21 16:33 | |
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| iophk | http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/pressroom/content/20120614IPR46889/html/Parliament-should-say-NO-to-ACTA-says-International-Trade-Committee | Jun 21 16:38 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] The big loser of today's INTA vote against ACTA is commissioner Karel de Gucht. He is now on his own in defending ACTA... http://b1t.it/bEyq | Jun 21 16:43 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - The big loser of today's INTA vote against ACTA is… .::. Size~: 124.36 KB | Jun 21 16:43 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ai Weiwei: to live your life in fear is worse than losing your freedom http://goo.gl/VeZFa | Jun 21 16:45 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ai Weiwei: to live your life in fear is worse than losing your freedom | Ai Weiwei | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 212.41 KB | Jun 21 16:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] NEWS: #linuxconNA and #cloudopen programs announced! Torvalds tops lists of confirmed speakers: http://bit.ly/KPrlkl #linux #linuxnews | Jun 21 16:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Linux Foundation Announces LinuxCon and CloudOpen Schedule, New Keynote Confirmations | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 43.84 KB | Jun 21 16:52 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It seems the ACTA vote in EUPARL in 10 days will be followed by vote on unitary patent. Software patents will come with that. Stay alert! | Jun 21 16:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fifth EU Committee Recommends Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament - http://bit.ly/NdnnwS all the thrills & spills of the day #INTA | Jun 21 16:57 | |
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| formic_ | msb_ http://www.dhmo.org/ | Jun 21 17:02 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Just tested #Vimium (#Chromium plugin for #Vim users): First tests look good. http://ur1.ca/50em9 | Jun 21 17:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @guido !euro2012fs quarter final: #France vs. #Germany http://ur1.ca/9jj3e !fsfe !gnu !faif | Jun 21 17:02 | |
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| formic_ | dangers of dihydrogen monoxide | Jun 21 17:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9jj6x | Jun 21 17:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - The #ACTA agreement is rejected by #INTA -… .::. Size~: 127.04 KB | Jun 21 17:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Aah, back in Warsaw Hackerspace, winrar. I missed those sick basterds. :) | Jun 21 17:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Audioblog Post | A Matter Of Honour http://fwd4.me/13nZ #fb #politics #religion | Jun 21 17:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @jxself: Good news everyone! European Parliament recommends rejecting #acta: http://ur1.ca/9jjdt !fsf | Jun 21 17:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RT @sandersch: It's a quarter to #STOPACTA. Good evening #Diaspora & !Identiverse http://b1t.it/bEzl | Jun 21 17:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Defensive #Knives for Women - YouTube http://goo.gl/EPJl5 #edc #preppers | Jun 21 17:48 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] hey @thesoul tarao! xD | Jun 21 17:48 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Hypocrisy Of Congress: As Big A Threat To The Internet As The UN They're Condemning http://goo.gl/jv0X7 | Jun 21 17:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: The Hypocrisy Of Congress: As Big A Threat To The Internet As The UN They're Condemning | Techdirt .::. Size~: 41.46 KB | Jun 21 17:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] more novel length titles from #TechDirt - not going to edit to dent | Jun 21 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Please join us in fighting for an open cloud. @amcpherson blogs: http://bit.ly/KPz6Xp #linux #cloudopen #cloud #oss | Jun 21 17:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Celebrating #ACTABeGone in Berlin, 19:30 at café 100wasser. Join if u want! Cc @aprica @netzpolitik #evangelfest | Jun 21 17:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Thorsten Leemhuis http://ur1.ca/9jjgs | Jun 21 18:03 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - RHEL 6.3 is out .::. Size~: 132.15 KB | Jun 21 18:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] my tablet wallpaper http://goo.gl/IPlTG #NSFW language #PulpFiction - hard to get a good wallpaper that works on both axis | Jun 21 18:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from AJ Ogaard http://ur1.ca/9jjj5 | Jun 21 18:13 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Can Apple refuse to sell a laptop to an Iranian citizen? The answer is complicated. https://eff.org/r.a8dy | Jun 21 18:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Can Apple Refuse to Sell a Laptop to an Iranian Citizen? Maybe. | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 42.41 KB | Jun 21 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] #ACTABeGone. Heute ein König :-) http://ur1.ca/9jjni | Jun 21 18:28 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] aí tem o cara que tem tão pouca autoridade que não manda nem e-mail: é o programa de e-mail que manda, ele só obedece | Jun 21 18:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] falar em piada sem graça, a tradução correta para tweet é piada, é? | Jun 21 18:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Why We're Fighting for an Open Cloud (Linux.com) http://ur1.ca/9jjpk | Jun 21 18:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @marcelobranco: Alguém tem + info se rolou o pregão direcionado da @Caixa Federal 116/7066-2012 onde única concorrente é a Microsoft? | Jun 21 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Twitter is down. Assange must be leaving the embassy. #conspiracyFan | Jun 21 18:38 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Kirill Grouchnikov http://ur1.ca/9jjrn | Jun 21 18:48 | |
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| iophk | The Osborne Effect striking: https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228325/WP8_won_t_run_on_current_Windows_Phone_a_problem_for_Nokia_ | Jun 21 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WP8 won't run on current Windows Phone, a problem for Nokia - Computerworld .::. Size~: 140.33 KB | Jun 21 18:50 |
| iophk | Not that VistaPhone8 is much of an improvement. | Jun 21 18:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Twitter is back. Where is Assange? | Jun 21 18:53 | |
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| MinceR | (except m$ didn't invent that either...) | Jun 21 19:00 |
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| formic_ | that guy looks like someone who scams users with ad revenue | Jun 21 19:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] U can show your support for #opencloud w/ "Fight for an Open Cloud" web badge or FB, Google+ profile pics: http://bit.ly/KPHEO3 | Jun 21 19:02 | |
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| MinceR | surprise, he is | Jun 21 19:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] On my way to Café 100wasser. #berlin #evangelfest #ACTABeGone | Jun 21 19:03 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The Oatmeal creator is fighting a bizarre lawsuit targeting his online speech. EFF is on it. https://eff.org/r.4adz | Jun 21 19:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Microsoft Suffocates the Free Software Foundation (FSF) http://ur1.ca/9jd55 #gnu #linux #foss #software #censorship | Jun 21 19:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/94790722 http://identi.ca/notice/94793522 | Jun 21 19:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Bijan (bijan)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-12 09:09:30 UTC - Identi.ca: it's simple caused by lack of user experience/knowledge i guess ;) | Jun 21 19:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Alexandre Oliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-12 11:19:50 UTC - Identi.ca: ♻ @schestowitz: Copyright and pirates [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9jgsp speaks for the inadequacy of the term as ascribed to copyright infringement. | Jun 21 19:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Final Europarl Committee Rejects ACTA: Internet-Lobbyists, 5-0. http://ur1.ca/9jjdt #acta #cronycapitalism | Jun 21 19:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Red Hat increases revenue by 19 per cent - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/50EhI #gnulinux | Jun 21 19:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.3 released with improved virtualisation - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/7K2yO | Jun 21 19:12 | |
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| iophk | The ACTA 'defeats' are so far only recommendations, the real vote comes up on 4 July: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/21/acta-europe-vote-against | Jun 21 19:12 |
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| iophk | That's when the decision counts. | Jun 21 19:12 |
| schestowitz | th of July | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | 4th | Jun 21 19:13 |
| iophk | Ironic | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | wouldn't THAT be ironic | Jun 21 19:13 |
| schestowitz | yes, exactly | Jun 21 19:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Listen to your books (ePUB or PDF) with Okular, KDE's PDF Reader http://ur1.ca/9jg6t #Okular #KDE | Jun 21 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] RT @chokepointproject Great Q&A with Karen and Runa from @torproject right now on @Reddit - check it out at http://ur1.ca/9iubn | Jun 21 19:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Adobe launches an open source and web standards portal - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/SCkYS and it's not April 1st ;) | Jun 21 19:13 | |
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| iophk | "We're very excited about today's decision, but it's not over yet." | Jun 21 19:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Canonical proposes alternate #UEFI Secure Boot solution - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/Mz0t4 #gnulinux | Jun 21 19:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] I advocate anti-harassment policies against men too http://ur1.ca/9jjyd agreeing with Meeks | Jun 21 19:18 | |
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| XFaCE | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-proposes-alternate-UEFI-Secure-Boot-solution-1623134.html | Jun 21 19:21 |
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| XFaCE | wow, they are actually beating red hat in this regard | Jun 21 19:21 |
| XFaCE | jono: Congrats on hitting one out of the park | Jun 21 19:21 |
| formic_ | XFaCE: did you hear about the hungarian submarine screen door? | Jun 21 19:22 |
| formic_ | don't laugh, it keeps the fish out | Jun 21 19:22 |
| XFaCE | ... | Jun 21 19:22 |
| XFaCE | *crickets* | Jun 21 19:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting Coffee = Sexual Harassment? http://ur1.ca/9jjzn http://ur1.ca/9jjzo | Jun 21 19:25 | |
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| jono | XFaCE, :-) | Jun 21 19:26 |
| sebsebseb | jono: uh why doesn't Canonical try to get a general key, for all Linux distros? | Jun 21 19:28 |
| sebsebseb | XFaCE: seems Canonical's key is Ubuntu only | Jun 21 19:28 |
| schestowitz | they they not just negotiate? | Jun 21 19:28 |
| schestowitz | And some devs merely discussed options? | Jun 21 19:28 |
| schestowitz | Unless i missed something, I read only two articles about Canonical and UEFI | Jun 21 19:28 |
| jono | sebsebseb, I don't know | Jun 21 19:28 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure CCanonical will do the right thing | Jun 21 19:29 |
| schestowitz | And not sell out like Red Hat did | Jun 21 19:29 |
| jono | schestowitz Red Hat didnt sell out | Jun 21 19:29 |
| jono | they are trying to handle the best of a bad situation | Jun 21 19:29 |
| schestowitz | they did actaully | Jun 21 19:29 |
| schestowitz | they failed | Jun 21 19:29 |
| schestowitz | they chose the worse | Jun 21 19:29 |
| schestowitz | for the common population | Jun 21 19:30 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Jun 21 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Was at a friend all day today... | Jun 21 19:30 |
| schestowitz | He played that FLOSS Weekly interview | Jun 21 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Which reminded me of how you said Novell did hurt the community at large | Jun 21 19:30 |
| jono | schestowitz what other options do Red Hat have? | Jun 21 19:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Valve Picks Up Another Key Linux Developer http://ur1.ca/9j8il good sign, they must be quite serious | Jun 21 19:30 | |
| MinceR | formic_: hungary can't afford submarines | Jun 21 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | It's OK to say so when Red Hat does it too | Jun 21 19:30 |
| schestowitz | It's not like a faithhead cursing religion | Jun 21 19:30 |
| jono | Red Hat doesn't hurt the community | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | jono: antitrust is one option | Jun 21 19:31 |
| jono | I don't agree with some of their actions, but Red Hat are good contributors | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat did hurt by helping the UEFI agenda, see my posts | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I'm not alone | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Sam, Carla, others agree | Jun 21 19:31 |
| jono | schestowitz I disgree | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Some devs were appalled | Jun 21 19:31 |
| jono | Sam who? | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Vargehse | Jun 21 19:31 |
| jono | Sam Varghese? | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Good journalst | Jun 21 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Not for you | Jun 21 19:31 |
| jono | I don't give a crap what that idiot thinks | Jun 21 19:31 |
| jono | he isnt a journalist | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Cause he doesn't drink Canonical's Kool-Aide | Jun 21 19:32 |
| jono | not in my mind | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | OK | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Some say the same about you.. | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | ANd about me | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | It's about perspective | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Not all agree | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Esp. not in the FOSS world | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | econciling is hard in an area where people thinm for themselves | Jun 21 19:32 |
| jono | schestowitz no, not because he doesnt drink the koolaid, because he doesnt base his reporting on facts | Jun 21 19:32 |
| cubezzz | look at Linus and RMS, they hardly agree on anything | Jun 21 19:32 |
| jono | I dont care if people criticize Canonical or Ubuntu, but I expect them to base their reporting on facts | Jun 21 19:32 |
| schestowitz | It's different where it's very top-down, people are discouraged for speaking out their minds | Jun 21 19:33 |
| XFaCE | jono: Red Hat essentially legitimized Microsoft's clear abuse of its monopoly | Jun 21 19:33 |
| jono | not on anger and preconceived notions | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: they do actually | Jun 21 19:33 |
| jono | Sam Varghese IMHO writes tabloid nonsense | Jun 21 19:33 |
| XFaCE | jono: It gave Microsoft authority it does not deserve | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | but they argue over things they don't agree on | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | not on the common ground | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I agree with Jono on maybe 90% of the things | Jun 21 19:33 |
| jono | a good example is SJVN, he has been critical of ubuntu and canonical, but he bases his reporting on facts and covers all sides | Jun 21 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: look at Linus he swears publically | Jun 21 19:33 |
| schestowitz | We don't agree on some stuff, that's the trf up for debate; such is life.. | Jun 21 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: then the Linux media make it into a big thing at times when that | Jun 21 19:34 |
| jono | Red Hat are in the same boat as we are, trying to find a technical solution to a crappy situation | Jun 21 19:34 |
| jono | and legal recourse is not an option | Jun 21 19:34 |
| schestowitz | not everything is techn9ical | Jun 21 19:34 |
| *sebsebseb thinks it's best to not swear publically when can avoide it, more so if someone kind of famous | Jun 21 19:34 | |
| cubezzz | sebsebseb, I realize why he does it, I just don't think it's a good idea | Jun 21 19:34 |
| jono | it would cost Red Hat hundreds of millions of dollars | Jun 21 19:34 |
| jono | schestowitz so what is the solution? | Jun 21 19:34 |
| iophk | Will Canonical be signing keys? That would be a partial alternative to legitimizing M$ land grab. | Jun 21 19:34 |
| jono | legal action isnt an option | Jun 21 19:34 |
| schestowitz | "Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone." -RMS | Jun 21 19:35 |
| schestowitz | When you deal with a criminal, pick up a crobwar or call the police | Jun 21 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Negotiation might not work | Jun 21 19:35 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: also Linus whatever, he's just like the rest of us when it comes to picking a distro really, for him to use his program Linux, he has to pick a distro like the rest of us | Jun 21 19:35 |
| schestowitz | He'll kick you in the balls and you'll bleed to death | Jun 21 19:35 |
| schestowitz | [19:34] <jono> it would cost Red Hat hundreds of millions of dollars | Jun 21 19:35 |
| jono | schestowitz so what is the solution? | Jun 21 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Justice is not free | Jun 21 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Freedom is not free, either | Jun 21 19:35 |
| jono | schestowitz but why should Red Hat foot the bill? | Jun 21 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: as was shown with that OpenSuse thing, Linux media made a right fuss about that online | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat should put its money where it's sales pitch is | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | *its | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | jono: organise with Red Hat,m IBM... | Jun 21 19:36 |
| XFaCE | jono: Short-term gain, long-term pain | Jun 21 19:36 |
| sebsebseb | cubezzz: he didn't want his daughter to know the root password, and fused about it on Google+, blah de blah, and it became a big thing since it was Linus | Jun 21 19:36 |
| jono | schestowitz this isnt a soluton though, it might succeed | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | Although, IIRC< IBM supported Palladium and Red Hat is a little butler of IBM, so I doubt it'll work so wmoothly | Jun 21 19:36 |
| jono | schestowitz so what is the technical solution for handing this? | Jun 21 19:36 |
| jono | aside from legal action | Jun 21 19:36 |
| schestowitz | think of it like this: | Jun 21 19:37 |
| schestowitz | someone is going around town persuading people to demean and upset you | Jun 21 19:37 |
| schestowitz | OEMs | Jun 21 19:37 |
| XFaCE | jono: What Red Hat did was knee-jerk reactionary action. | Jun 21 19:37 |
| schestowitz | If you cannot wait for the police or court to take action, pick a bone and man up | Jun 21 19:37 |
| jono | XFaCE, ok, so what solution do you propose? | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Red Hat could, for example build an alliance | Jun 21 19:38 |
| XFaCE | jono: They should have called Microsoft on their bullshit | Jun 21 19:38 |
| jono | you are not giving me solutions | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Google, Amazon... | Jun 21 19:38 |
| jono | you are still resorting to legal action | Jun 21 19:38 |
| jono | what can we do today to solve the issue of SecureBoot? | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | do you have something against justice? | Jun 21 19:38 |
| jono | from a practical software perspective | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Is antitrust a dirty word? | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | You deal with a serial offender here | Jun 21 19:38 |
| schestowitz | and you recommend bending over | Jun 21 19:39 |
| jono | schestowitz no, I don't, but Red Hat and Canonical are not going to take legal action | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Not good, jono... | Jun 21 19:39 |
| jono | so it is not an optoon | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Might get you through in life as a famiyl man.. | Jun 21 19:39 |
| jono | so I am asking...what is the solution? | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | But like many other men, insiginificant.. cause you are not willing to be idealistic like Assange or RMS here.. | Jun 21 19:39 |
| iophk | you can't solve a legal problem with attempts at technical solutions | Jun 21 19:39 |
| jono | the reason why you cant give me a solution is because there is no solution | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I told you the solution | Jun 21 19:39 |
| schestowitz | But you choose to decline it | Jun 21 19:39 |
| jono | we are forced into a corner and Red Hat and Canonical are taking the only approaches they can | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | !gogole conlin microsoft technical sabotage | Jun 21 19:40 |
| jono | schestowitz you didnt give me a solution...you solution is to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of someone elses money | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | !google conlin microsoft technical sabotage | Jun 21 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - How Steve Ballmer (and Colleagues) Deliberately Sabotaged OS/2 ... | http://techrights.org/2009/06/17/steve-ballmer-crimes-vs-os2/ | Jun 21 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Groklaw - Comes v. MS Antitrust Trial Begins in Iowa | http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php%3Fstory%3D2006120516224886 | Jun 21 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Look Who's Stalking Wal-Mart - BusinessWeek | http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_49/b4158030745931.htm | Jun 21 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Return of the House Call - BusinessWeek | http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_46/b4155070821061.htm | Jun 21 19:40 |
| jono | why should Red Hat or Canonical foot the bill? | Jun 21 19:40 |
| jono | they are not going to take legal action | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | no | Jun 21 19:40 |
| jono | so it is not an option from what I can see | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | the solution is not to spend money | Jun 21 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Show me where I advocated this | Jun 21 19:40 |
| jono | you said they should take MS to court | Jun 21 19:41 |
| jono | ok, so what is the solution then? | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | No, antrist complaint | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | !google google eu mosaid antitrust complaint | Jun 21 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Google lobs antitrust complaint against Microsoft, Nokia in EU, claims | http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/31/google-lobs-antitrust-complaint-against-microsoft-and-nokia-in-eu/ | Jun 21 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - FOSS Patents: Nokia calls Google's EU antitrust complaint "frivolous ... | http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/nokia-calls-googles-eu-antitrust.html | Jun 21 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - FOSS Patents: Google's EU antitrust allegations against Microsoft ... | http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/googles-eu-antitrust-allegations.html | Jun 21 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Google Files Complaint in Europe Against Microsoft, Nokia ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/google-files-complaint-in-europe-against-microsoft-correct-.html | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Here's MS'\ lobbyist | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Spinning it already | Jun 21 19:41 |
| scientes | interesting | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Under the "FOSS" banner | Jun 21 19:41 |
| schestowitz | I am..... Windows Roy | Jun 21 19:42 |
| scientes | oh its jono in here ;) | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Hear me roar.... I am actually trying to HELP Microsoft :-) | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | jono: don't worry about Red Hat's wallet | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | They have enough cash | Jun 21 19:42 |
| schestowitz | You strive to just ife what I suspect if Canonical prospective path | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Proactivelt | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | *is | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | ANd Red Hat set a bad precedent | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | WHich puts this pressure on Canonical, thus I dennounced Red hat for it | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Also, Red Hat harmed the chances of success of antitrust | Jun 21 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Which is exactly the opp. of what it ought to have done | Jun 21 19:43 |
| scientes | <sebsebseb> jono: uh why doesn't Canonical try to get a general key, for all Linux distros? | Jun 21 19:43 |
| XFaCE | jono: There is not technical solution | Jun 21 19:44 |
| schestowitz | i.e. more harm than good, like Novell | Jun 21 19:44 |
| schestowitz | Canonical does this too | Jun 21 19:44 |
| scientes | sebsebseb, its a difficult issue | Jun 21 19:44 |
| schestowitz | !google canonical aiding criminals | Jun 21 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Canonical Aiding Criminals - Digg | http://digg.com/news/technology/canonical_aiding_criminals | Jun 21 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Aiding Criminals | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2012/06/09/aiding-criminals/ | Jun 21 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Ubuntu | Techrights | http://techrights.org/category/ubuntu/ | Jun 21 19:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Ghabuntu (@ghabuntu) on Twitter | https://twitter.com/ghabuntu | Jun 21 19:44 |
| XFaCE | EFI has already been determined to be underdeveloped | Jun 21 19:44 |
| XFaCE | It's benefits are weak sause at best | Jun 21 19:44 |
| jono | schestowitz an antitrust complaint wouldnt solve the issue | Jun 21 19:44 |
| scientes | XFaCE, agreed, and Garett saying that this isn't true does not magically make secureboot secure | Jun 21 19:44 |
| jono | it would wrap it up in legal issues for years | Jun 21 19:44 |
| jono | while the technology is still available | Jun 21 19:45 |
| XFaCE | jono: Yep, the governement is useless | Jun 21 19:45 |
| jono | this is why we do need a technological solution to this | Jun 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | it can stall OEMs | Jun 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | antitrust | Jun 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | bad publicity etc. | Jun 21 19:45 |
| jono | and my point is that Red Hat and Canonical don't have any options | Jun 21 19:45 |
| jono | schestowitz it wont | Jun 21 19:45 |
| jono | OEMs will still ship | Jun 21 19:45 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft should be allowed to do whatever it wants, which is essentially the position it has been in for the last 20 years | Jun 21 19:45 |
| jono | it will take five years to settle that case | Jun 21 19:45 |
| schestowitz | Aiding Microsoft go through with this helps legitimise an attack on general-purpose mobos | Jun 21 19:45 |
| scientes | jono, I was thinking about this earlier, and doesn't the very existance of firewire make it broken from the start? couldn't we just have a firewire/iPod ubunt installer than can bypass secureboot? | Jun 21 19:45 |
| jono | schestowitz I think you are being a little idealistic | Jun 21 19:45 |
| scientes | b/c DMA | Jun 21 19:46 |
| schestowitz | Such that 10 years from now many mobos will be obsolete and refuse to run code, unless it's some "appproved" (by now-fefunct Microsoft) secret ket | Jun 21 19:46 |
| schestowitz | *key | Jun 21 19:46 |
| XFaCE | jono: By helping Microsoft, Red Hat has assured that it can go after small companies that don't comply | Jun 21 19:46 |
| schestowitz | jono: I think many are being defeatist | Jun 21 19:46 |
| XFaCE | They'll use the "digital handcuff no anti-circumvention" defenece | Jun 21 19:46 |
| scientes | schestowitz, in theory that will only apply to arm, b/c x86 is suppose to have an override | Jun 21 19:46 |
| XFaCE | jono: Watch what Apple has done with EFI and TPMS | Jun 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz | scientes: I know | Jun 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz | if you know how to mess with boot menus | Jun 21 19:47 |
| jono | schestowitz why dont you file an antitrust complaint? | Jun 21 19:47 |
| scientes | XFaCE, and don't think for a second that microsoft doesn't have the same end-goals | Jun 21 19:47 |
| iophk | Defeatism won't solve long term problems. It is practical to think about repercussions down the road. Long term planning cannot be so easily dismissed as 'idealism' | Jun 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz | jono: it's not my role | Jun 21 19:47 |
| jono | schestowitz why? | Jun 21 19:47 |
| schestowitz | it's like, saying: | Jun 21 19:47 |
| jono | you care about this | Jun 21 19:47 |
| XFaCE | jono: In Canada, we are passing a copyright bill that prevents pretty much all all circumvention of digital handcuffs | Jun 21 19:48 |
| jono | put your money where your mouth is :-) | Jun 21 19:48 |
| XFaCE | jono: think about that | Jun 21 19:48 |
| schestowitz | why don't I file a lawsuit against Tony Blair over Iraq | Jun 21 19:48 |
| scientes | jono, don't you have to buy one of these computers before filing a complaint, in order to have grounds to ====oh wait this isn't a suit | Jun 21 19:48 |
| schestowitz | Your question does you a desservice; it disredits your side in the debate | Jun 21 19:48 |
| formic_ | how is it antitrust when you can turn off uefi secure boot | Jun 21 19:48 |
| jono | schestowitz I dont think so | Jun 21 19:48 |
| schestowitz | let others decide | Jun 21 19:48 |
| jono | schestowitz my point is that it is easy to point to someone else to solve our problems | Jun 21 19:48 |
| schestowitz | it's a straw man | Jun 21 19:48 |
| jono | I am just pointing the finger back at you and asking why | Jun 21 19:48 |
| scientes | formic_, microsoft trying to take away desktop icons was anti-trust | Jun 21 19:48 |
| XFaCE | jono: I have you good reasons | Jun 21 19:49 |
| jono | what is not going to help is if you guys treat Red Hat like you treated Novell | Jun 21 19:49 |
| scientes | formic_, this is clearly anti-trust, just the ability to get around something doesn't mean it isn't anti-competitive | Jun 21 19:49 |
| jono | we don't need another Boycott Novell | Jun 21 19:49 |
| jono | Red Hat are good citizens, and they do good work | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | who said anything about boycott? | Jun 21 19:49 |
| jono | this situation is shitty because of Microsoft | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | yes, they are | Jun 21 19:49 |
| XFaCE | jono: I'm sorry, we criticize those who are wrong | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | but they made an error | Jun 21 19:49 |
| schestowitz | and we should point this out | Jun 21 19:49 |
| jono | XFaCE, wrong in *your* eyes | Jun 21 19:49 |
| XFaCE | this isn't MSNBC vs. FOX news | Jun 21 19:50 |
| XFaCE | jono: I think it's pretty good evidence | Jun 21 19:50 |
| scientes | schestowitz, and they are having a hard time implamenting it in a way that the upstream kernel guys like | Jun 21 19:50 |
| XFaCE | jono: The copyright bill in Canada would kill Red Hat in this regard | Jun 21 19:50 |
| formic_ | jono - i dont understand the complaint, people are going to be buying computers preloaded by microsoft and paying for that license... instead of building a computer or having one custom made locally | Jun 21 19:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Open Source Batch Management? - Slashdot http://goo.gl/sl7ma #controlm alternatives - #flosstools | Jun 21 19:50 | |
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| schestowitz | maybe I should not criticise pedophile priests either because something they help guise some children... or not tell off politicians because not everything they do is malicious | Jun 21 19:50 |
| schestowitz | you can't label companies black/white | Jun 21 19:50 |
| schestowitz | you judge separately based on what they do | Jun 21 19:50 |
| XFaCE | jono: It's a grey world | Jun 21 19:51 |
| scientes | Alan Cox says he is hoarding flaws in red-hats secureboot implamentation | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | I don't criticise Novell or Microsot for everything they do... nor do they deserve praises, they're not people | Jun 21 19:51 |
| scientes | we all know that this move by microsoft wont do jack for security, its all about *insecurity* | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | no, security | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | but whose | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | shareholders of MS | Jun 21 19:51 |
| schestowitz | and definitwely not Linux' | Jun 21 19:52 |
| scientes | schestowitz, ok, yes | Jun 21 19:52 |
| formic_ | listen for a second | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Because Linux not depends on sociopaths to boot | Jun 21 19:52 |
| scientes | it doesn't make windows any more secure, its just a way of kicking people out | Jun 21 19:52 |
| formic_ | secure boot does one thing, locks out pirated boot loaders that fake oem bios for product activation | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | *now | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | formic_: bvoo hoo | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | activation | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | aka copies | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | without control by the Vle | Jun 21 19:52 |
| scientes | and that really pissed me off at Red Hat, that they are trying to polish over this turd of a decision, and trying to tell us to eat their shit, that it will make us more secure "THINK OF THIS CHILDREN" type of arument | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Ask RMS how he feels about it | Jun 21 19:52 |
| schestowitz | where abundance is possible | Jun 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | without contraints | Jun 21 19:53 |
| formic_ | so turn off uefi secure boot and install linux | Jun 21 19:53 |
| formic_ | use your own custom keys | Jun 21 19:53 |
| scientes | formic_, but their company decision weakens that position for all of us | Jun 21 19:53 |
| XFaCE | formic_: Until it becomes impossible to do so | Jun 21 19:53 |
| formic_ | its not lock in, if the door isnt "locked" | Jun 21 19:53 |
| scientes | formic_, totally false | Jun 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | false | Jun 21 19:53 |
| schestowitz | they build more walls | Jun 21 19:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The draft “Communications Data Bill”, opportunities and challenges - http://bit.ly/MlBrVD more legal analysis #uk | Jun 21 19:53 | |
| schestowitz | and call it "security" | Jun 21 19:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Guest post by Ibrahim Hasan – The draft “Communications Data Bill”, opportunities and challenges | Legal Aware .::. Size~: 63.79 KB | Jun 21 19:54 |
| formic_ | you're saying you can't turn off uefi secure boot? | Jun 21 19:54 |
| formic_ | its security against boot loader pirates | Jun 21 19:54 |
| MinceR | it's a pretty dark gray world, then | Jun 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | I can put pickles in your cake and say you can remove them | Jun 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | But in all liklihood, my cake sales will diminish | Jun 21 19:54 |
| schestowitz | Micosoft does not worry about those | Jun 21 19:55 |
| schestowitz | !google microsoft likes piracy | Jun 21 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - We Love Microsoft Software Piracy in China: Bill Gates | http://labnol.blogspot.com/2007/07/we-love-microsoft-software-piracy-in.html | Jun 21 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Don't Be Fooled by Software Pirates - Microsoft | https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2010/apr10/04-01piracymythspr.aspx | Jun 21 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - If Microsoft does not like piracy, why does it not ... | http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/553843-If-Microsoft-does-not-like-piracy-why-does-it-not | Jun 21 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Surprise! Microsoft quietly opposes SOPA copyright bill | Privacy Inc ... | http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57330078-281/surprise-microsoft-quietly-opposes-sopa-copyright-bill/ | Jun 21 19:55 |
| formic_ | bad anaology | Jun 21 19:55 |
| schestowitz | To Microsoft, Linux is "piracy" | Jun 21 19:55 |
| schestowitz | Because Linux is EVIL or MURDEROUS | Jun 21 19:55 |
| formic_ | its like building a house with a lock and not requiring that you use a key | Jun 21 19:56 |
| schestowitz | it'd different | Jun 21 19:56 |
| scientes | formic_, you could always turn on selinux.... | Jun 21 19:56 |
| schestowitz | the house is not yours | Jun 21 19:56 |
| schestowitz | It's shared | Jun 21 19:56 |
| schestowitz | Among Fedora, Windows, Ubuntu, BSD.. | Jun 21 19:56 |
| scientes | in fact, its easy to turn on ROM security in linux | Jun 21 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is trying to change the locks on a house it doesn't own | Jun 21 19:57 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yep | Jun 21 19:57 |
| schestowitz | and then it says, oh, you can try to sneak from the trapdoor | Jun 21 19:57 |
| formic_ | with uefi secure boot, you can use a custom key and people won't be able to boot livecd's to hack your linux install | Jun 21 19:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] UN Trade & Development Agency argues flexible #IP rules are crucial to #Africa's sustainable future. https://eff.org/r.a9dw | Jun 21 19:58 | |
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| formic_ | you could build linux-only computers where your mom,dad,bother,sister,w/e won't have a friend come over and install windows on you | Jun 21 19:59 |
| MinceR | instead they'll use DMA over IEEE1394 or PCIe to break into your system | Jun 21 19:59 |
| MinceR | since they have physical access | Jun 21 19:59 |
| *cubezzz has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Jun 21 19:59 | |
| formic_ | so | Jun 21 20:00 |
| scientes | MinceR, YEP | Jun 21 20:00 |
| formic_ | use DMA over IEEE1394 or PCIe to break into your system | Jun 21 20:00 |
| formic_ | to break windows | Jun 21 20:00 |
| formic_ | and install linux | Jun 21 20:00 |
| scientes | would be a trivial iPod installer | Jun 21 20:00 |
| MinceR | they can probably break GNU/Linux with it too | Jun 21 20:00 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] It took Michael Jordan seven seasons to win a Championship ring, it may have taken Lebron nine. | Jun 21 20:00 | |
| scientes | MinceR, in fact they can | Jun 21 20:00 |
| MinceR | and if not with that then with a hardware debugger | Jun 21 20:00 |
| formic_ | so then whats the big deal? | Jun 21 20:00 |
| scientes | http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/physical-memory-attacks-via-firewire-dma-part-1-overview-and-mitigation | Jun 21 20:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Physical memory attacks via Firewire/DMA - Part 1: Overview and Mitigation (Update) | Uwe Hermann .::. Size~: 57.82 KB | Jun 21 20:00 |
| formic_ | lock-in so scary it can be turned off... | Jun 21 20:01 |
| MinceR | the big deal is that the uneducated user gets shafted even harder then before | Jun 21 20:01 |
| MinceR | installed base might decrease or not increase as much as otherwise | Jun 21 20:01 |
| MinceR | and so we get worse support | Jun 21 20:01 |
| formic_ | the uneducated user will install ubuntu which will be supported | Jun 21 20:01 |
| iophk | Having the end-user install the system is a losing battle it has been shown. Breaking into the OEM market is what's needed. | Jun 21 20:02 |
| formic_ | the ubuntu uefi setup is actually more locked in because you cant even use microsoft signed pci hardware | Jun 21 20:02 |
| MinceR | iophk: having the end-user install the system can help break into the oem market, though | Jun 21 20:02 |
| formic_ | but again, turn it off | Jun 21 20:02 |
| formic_ | oh no! | Jun 21 20:02 |
| formic_ | bios options! scary! | Jun 21 20:02 |
| formic_ | start up a motherboard manufactuer company and make millions off the apparently 'locked in' users stuck with windows | Jun 21 20:03 |
| formic_ | support a company making uefi secure boot neutral motherboards like ASUS or Gigabyte | Jun 21 20:04 |
| formic_ | replace your oem motherboard for less than $100 | Jun 21 20:04 |
| formic_ | like there are so many options, its silly to say 'lock in' | Jun 21 20:05 |
| formic_ | but its your freedom to be scared of nothing | Jun 21 20:05 |
| MinceR | gigabyte is "boot neutral"? | Jun 21 20:05 |
| MinceR | the company that basically said "we don't care, use windows"? | Jun 21 20:05 |
| formic_ | sure is | Jun 21 20:05 |
| formic_ | they would go bankrupt if they sold boards that won't load XP or 7 | Jun 21 20:06 |
| formic_ | which would require uefi secure boot disabling | Jun 21 20:06 |
| formic_ | mincer - why dont you stop supporting american companies and get a local company in hungary to build you a OS-free PC | Jun 21 20:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Thursday http://ur1.ca/9jk6l | Jun 21 20:07 | |
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| formic_ | usians right? | Jun 21 20:07 |
| MinceR | formic_: which local company is going to manufacture mainboards? | Jun 21 20:07 |
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| formic_ | you dont have to go local for motherboards, PC oems often use custom made ones | Jun 21 20:08 |
| formic_ | just get an off the shelf board | Jun 21 20:08 |
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| formic_ | ASUS and Gigabyte are taiwanese | Jun 21 20:08 |
| MinceR | which local company is going to build a laptop? | Jun 21 20:08 |
| formic_ | get a system76 from canada, or a leemote from china | Jun 21 20:09 |
| formic_ | RMS has a leemote | Jun 21 20:09 |
| MinceR | he had a lemote | Jun 21 20:09 |
| formic_ | no windows tax, therefor no secure boot issues in the future either | Jun 21 20:09 |
| MinceR | until he got robbed | Jun 21 20:09 |
| formic_ | MinceR: i wonder if his password is still blank | Jun 21 20:10 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 21 20:10 |
| MinceR | i hope not | Jun 21 20:10 |
| MinceR | the reason for doing so is no longer there | Jun 21 20:10 |
| formic_ | meh, boot cd would work too | Jun 21 20:11 |
| formic_ | or usb | Jun 21 20:11 |
| formic_ | dont need his password to get his files | Jun 21 20:11 |
| MinceR | like said, when the attacker has physical access, nothing can really keep them from compromising the hardware | Jun 21 20:12 |
| formic_ | unless he was using lvm with disk encryption | Jun 21 20:12 |
| MinceR | s/s/i s/ | Jun 21 20:12 |
| MinceR | disk encryption can protect the stored data | Jun 21 20:12 |
| MinceR | but it can't keep the hw itself from being taken over | Jun 21 20:12 |
| formic_ | all my linux devices have entire-disk-encryption | Jun 21 20:12 |
| formic_ | just in case they get stolen by theives, or stolen by the government | Jun 21 20:12 |
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| iophk | MinceR: the freedom for the end-user to install a new system helps (to a small extent) mitigate the OEM lock-in that is currently the situation. UEFI hurts that very much. | Jun 21 20:17 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Jun 21 20:17 |
| iophk | That's where nearly all of Ubuntu's (canonical's) market comes from right now. UEFI is going to take a bite out of that if nothing changes. | Jun 21 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | these collapse blogs are funny | Jun 21 20:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] since #UEFA arn't serious about play acting, they should go the whole hog & give out their own best actor awards post match #ec2012 | Jun 21 20:20 | |
| DaemonFC | I think the most likely way the US would collapse is that the federal government declares itself to be insolvent | Jun 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | a new federal government forms and declares that it isn't associated with the old one | Jun 21 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | and anyone stupid enough to have large amounts of US Dollars on hand gets to take a bath | Jun 21 20:22 |
| MinceR | as an added bonus, if they can install a hw keylogger without you noticing, they can use it to steal the password to decrypt the drives with :> | Jun 21 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | if the federal government really becomes insolvent, it will have a hard time keeping a military together when it can no longer issue paychecks | Jun 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | so it might be a rather calm collapse from the perspective of the average US citizen | Jun 21 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | depending on how quickly the existing government disbands itself, we may or may not start losing territory to invaders and secession | Jun 21 20:25 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: didn't you place landmines along the mexican border? | Jun 21 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | no, nobody takes that seriously | Jun 21 20:26 |
| MinceR | no electrified fence? no sentry guns? | Jun 21 20:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US-EU Transatlantic Trade Deal Would Skip IPRs - http://bit.ly/NVp8U1 significant in the light of #ACTA, I think (v @mgeist) | Jun 21 20:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The New World Order in 2012 http://goo.gl/W66Sc #nwo #tptb | Jun 21 20:27 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: There's a lot of military hardware that the new government will have to move quickly to seize | Jun 21 20:27 |
| MinceR | two fences with xenomorphs in between? | Jun 21 20:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kim Dotcom: Artists Rejoice, Megabox is Not Dead - http://bit.ly/KBuEu9 you have to admire the chap's indomitability | Jun 21 20:28 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: Within 20 years there might still be something calling itself the United States of America, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a debt default, new government, an replacement constitution by then. | Jun 21 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Who knows what kinds of nasty stuff the US military has laying around | Jun 21 20:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Mysterious Baltic Sea Object Raises More Questions -- NTDTV.com http://goo.gl/gkLNK #xfiles | Jun 21 20:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Ronaldo deserved a goal there | Jun 21 20:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The 6 Creepiest Lies the #Food Industry is Feeding You | Cracked.com http://goo.gl/JSOKG #frankenfood | Jun 21 20:32 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: I'd be more worried about what kind of shit the CDC has samples of laying around | Jun 21 20:32 |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 21 20:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UN expert labels CIA tactic exposed by Bureau ‘a war crime’ - http://bit.ly/MmorSk "deliberately targeting rescuers in its drone strikes" | Jun 21 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 21 Things to Look For Every Time You Go To a Yard Sale or Thrift Store | The Survival Mom™ http://goo.gl/uXWvB #preppers | Jun 21 20:33 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: UN expert labels CIA tactic exposed by Bureau ‘a war crime’ - http://bit.ly/MmorSk "deliberately targeting rescuers in its dro | Jun 21 20:33 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 21 Things to Look For Every Time You Go To a Yard Sale or Thrift Store | The Survival Mom™ .::. Size~: 89.1 KB | Jun 21 20:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/american-hellholes | Jun 21 20:34 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, don't go to Detroit | Jun 21 20:34 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why Do The People Who Always Ask Us To 'Respect' Artists Seem To Have So Little Respect For Artists? - http://bit.ly/Myx7CH pathetic | Jun 21 20:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Kickstarter by the numbers: New stats page gives daily updates - http://bit.ly/KnVctQ pretty big numbers, too | Jun 21 20:38 | |
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| formic_ | no drones? | Jun 21 20:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] good job you didn't say fortran there... | Jun 21 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It's 32°C in the pseudo tropic of !Canada …overnight drop to 17°C forecast; Severe Thunderstorm Watch in effect #Humidex 37 #climatechange | Jun 21 20:42 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Why Do The People Who Always Ask Us To 'Respect' Artists Seem To Have So Little Respect For Artists? - http://bit.ly/Myx7CH | Jun 21 20:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | formic_: The reason that manufacturing jobs are starting to come back to Indiana is because the value of the US dollar has fallen more than 50% in the last 10 years | Jun 21 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | it's getting cheaper to export than it used to be, but it won't be enough for a recovery because China can just manipulate their currency in step with the dollar | Jun 21 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | for some things that can be made with enough automation, that's what you're seeing set up when they talk about manufacturing growth here | Jun 21 20:45 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] <<hoping the rumble distant thunder resolves into a nice storm. (& breaks the pressure headache I've had all heatwave) #tropicofCanada | Jun 21 20:47 | |
| iophk | The yuan is not tied to the dollar any more, if I understand correctly : http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2011/1018/Chinese-yuan-s-new-global-challenge-to-the-dollar | Jun 21 20:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The (somewhat) latest developments in #opendata: http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/32665 | Jun 21 20:53 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Well sort of right. In my dialect "jee-ra" and "jeer-a" are phonemically distinct and I'd been saying "jeer-a". | Jun 21 20:53 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is laurelrusswurm from identi.ca with 62 dents! | Jun 21 20:57 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: There's talk about privatization of our town water supply. | Jun 21 21:00 |
| formic_ | After a month of invading DaemonFC's privacy, I've finally found a picture of him. | Jun 21 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | same company that took over Fort Wayne's and doubled the water rates | Jun 21 21:01 |
| formic_ | DaemonFC's pic: http://imgur.com/WBkhd | Jun 21 21:01 |
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| DaemonFC | yep | Jun 21 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'd recognize me anywhere | Jun 21 21:01 |
| *DaemonFC wonders how people keep getting sold on "privatization will lower rates" | Jun 21 21:02 | |
| formic_ | DaemonFC: depends on how its advertised | Jun 21 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | there's a potential for lower rates, it all depends on the contract | Jun 21 21:03 |
| formic_ | in Toronto, privitizations is sold along with killing unions | Jun 21 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | usually you end up with a rate hike at some point | Jun 21 21:03 |
| formic_ | What if you come from the Internet? | Jun 21 21:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Portugal should be home & hosed by now; starting to wonder if it'll cost em with a single goal putting them out #ec2012 | Jun 21 21:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Major blow to #ACTA: Fifth and final EU parliamentary committee rejects agreement 2 weeks ahead of final vote https://eff.org/r.a6d2 | Jun 21 21:12 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57457836/supreme-court-throws-out-tv-cursing-sanctions/ | Jun 21 21:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Supreme Court throws out TV cursing sanctions - CBS News .::. Size~: 101.75 KB | Jun 21 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | yay | Jun 21 21:21 |
| MinceR | http://1.asset.soup.io/asset/2123/0497_c370.jpeg | Jun 21 21:21 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #JimmyCarr said sorry. So did #WilliamShatner - but without apologising http://goo.gl/2McdK | Jun 21 21:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Jimmy Carr said sorry. So did William Shatner - but without apologising | Culture | The Guardian .::. Size~: 156.41 KB | Jun 21 21:27 |
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| Ziomatrix | Still going strong: http://bit.ly/vuSIH3 | Jun 21 21:29 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Why Do The People Who Always Ask Us To 'Respect' Artists Seem To Have So Little Respect For Artists? http://www.ur1.ca/9jkk8 !Copyright !C11 | Jun 21 21:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Why Do The People Who Always Ask Us To 'Respect' Artists Seem To Have So Little Respect For Artists? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 126.77 KB | Jun 21 21:32 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Portugal made hard work of what should have been a reasnably straighforward game but got through eventually #ec2012 | Jun 21 21:40 | |
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| formic_ | +1 mincer | Jun 21 22:02 |
| Ziomatrix | http://bit.ly/KUgEN5 can this dream for few become a reality? | Jun 21 22:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Could Selling Your Computer One Day Be a Criminal Offense? .::. Size~: 51.74 KB | Jun 21 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: They're from the Huntington County Sheriff's Department | Jun 21 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | their federal Homeland Security Grant must have come early this year | Jun 21 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jun 21 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | they're waiting for all the old people to start protesting | Jun 21 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | "We are the 99 year olds!" | Jun 21 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Huntington Police: "Fuck you!" *taser!!!!* | Jun 21 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | later on the news "Well, she was coming right for us, and uhhh, you know, we needed to act" | Jun 21 22:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Autodesk uses Octocopter to find fossils with Louise Leakey - http://bit.ly/MyM6MW interesting non-military use for drone | Jun 21 22:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/us/politics/senate-passes-farm-bill-but-tougher-road-seen-in-house.html?_r=1 | Jun 21 22:08 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] We asked Internet users how they felt about software patents. Here's what they had to say: https://eff.org/r.5ad3 #patentfail | Jun 21 22:08 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Voices of the Internet: Technologists, Corporate Leaders, and Academics Speak Out Against Software Patents | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 35.68 KB | Jun 21 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | another $100 billion a year in corporate welfare | Jun 21 22:09 |
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| DaemonFC | which they'll be quick to point out is $2 billion a year less than it was! | Jun 21 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | which is a deficit reduction! | Jun 21 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.jerrydoyle.com/jd-vegas-cam-when-did-the-truth-become-an-impossible-standard_ | Jun 21 22:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: JD Vegas Cam: When Did The Truth Become An Impossible Standard? - The Jerry Doyle Show .::. Size~: 28.52 KB | Jun 21 22:11 |
| *DaemonFC wonders if he can pass Jabba off as a seeing eye cat | Jun 21 22:26 | |
| DaemonFC | these landlords are getting really strict | Jun 21 22:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] #Emacs Reference mugs are back! http://ur1.ca/9jm6h !fsf !gnu | Jun 21 22:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] GNOME Foundation board election results http://ur1.ca/9jm8c | Jun 21 22:43 | |
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| DaemonFC | noticed the first good storm in 3 months is on its way, so I went out with a bucket of hot water mixed with dish soap and a sponge and gave my car a good once over | Jun 21 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | let the storm do the rinse cycle | Jun 21 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | landlord freaked out when he saw me washing my car and so he cut off the water to the spigot outside | Jun 21 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | cheap | Jun 21 22:48 |
| formic_ | Oh wow | Jun 21 22:49 |
| formic_ | That's pretty gay | Jun 21 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, like 5 cents of water to wash my car once a month | Jun 21 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | so now I have to carry it out in buckets instead | Jun 21 22:50 |
| formic_ | Yeah really | Jun 21 22:51 |
| formic_ | My grandma freaked when I left the tap running while washing dishes | Jun 21 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | did you tell her it's like half a cent a gallon? | Jun 21 22:52 |
| formic_ | She's so cheap she steals sugar and napkins from McDonald's | Jun 21 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | and unless this is 1850, that means basically nothing | Jun 21 22:52 |
| formic_ | It's less than that here | Jun 21 22:52 |
| formic_ | It's like a quarter cent | Jun 21 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | that's about what it was before they raised it over the last couple of years | Jun 21 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | they freaked out because people were leaving town in droves because there was a job shortage | Jun 21 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | so they raised taxes on everyone that stayed | Jun 21 22:53 |
| formic_ | Canada has more fresh water | Jun 21 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | which compels more people to leave | Jun 21 22:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Help us shape Wikimedia’s prototype visual editor - http://bit.ly/KobC5H nice; #opensource too (v @Joscelyn) | Jun 21 22:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | so they raised the taxes again | Jun 21 22:53 |
| formic_ | You guys went to the UN to try stealing our water | Jun 21 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | don't worry | Jun 21 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | we'll get it eventually | Jun 21 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | just consider it gone | Jun 21 22:54 |
| formic_ | It will be tough | Jun 21 22:54 |
| formic_ | That's when the UN said water isn't a human right | Jun 21 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | but another part of the UN says the internet is a human right | Jun 21 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | don't you love the UN? | Jun 21 22:55 |
| formic_ | Lol | Jun 21 22:55 |
| formic_ | Internet is a human right so that revolutions can work | Jun 21 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | but only when they're in the interest of the US government | Jun 21 22:56 |
| formic_ | Then the revolutions help the UN put its thugs in charge | Jun 21 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | which tries to censor the internet for its own people | Jun 21 22:56 |
| formic_ | Like Libya | Jun 21 22:56 |
| formic_ | Lol | Jun 21 22:57 |
| formic_ | Things are gonna get interesting | Jun 21 22:57 |
| formic_ | Gotta love transit | Jun 21 22:58 |
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| DaemonFC | formic_: One of the conspiracy theory shows was talking about plans to drain the great lakes | Jun 21 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | is that what you were talking about? | Jun 21 23:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @fsf #Emacs Reference mugs are back! http://ur1.ca/9jm6h !fsf !gnu | Jun 21 23:05 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/wyoming-house-advances-doomsday-bill/article_af6e1b2b-0ca4-553f-85e9-92c0f58c00bd.html | Jun 21 23:12 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jun 21 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?a=Files.Serve&File_id=b69a6ebd-7ebe-41b7-bb03-c25a5e194365 | Jun 21 23:23 |
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| DaemonFC | The Presidential Election Campaign Fund is voluntary | Jun 21 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | you check whether or not you want money to go to it on your tax return | Jun 21 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | I always check no | Jun 21 23:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf #Emacs Reference mugs are back! http://ur1.ca/9jm6h !fsf !gnu | Jun 21 23:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Google lança projeto para proteger idiomas em extinção, Mirandês http://goo.gl/Al9qI #pt | Jun 21 23:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Reddit Cofounder Says Site Was Built By a Horde of Fake Accounts http://goo.gl/FdMpf | Jun 21 23:58 | |
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