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DaemonFChttp://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/01/water.bills.war/index.htmlJun 26 00:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Skyrocketing water bills mystify, anger residents - CNN.com .::. Size~: 80.18 KBJun 26 00:05
scientesDaemonFC, how do you make a living?Jun 26 00:06
scientes(no answer required)Jun 26 00:06
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/06/21/10-well-known-brands-that-will-disappear-in-2013/Jun 26 00:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The 10 Well-Known Brands That Will Disappear in 2013 - DailyFinance .::. Size~: 99.22 KBJun 26 00:28
DaemonFCthey say Avon is too busy "putting out fires" than advancing the businessJun 26 00:34
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DaemonFCyeah, they would have been shut down years ago if the feds ever bothered investigating them soonerJun 26 00:34
DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/25/microsoft-buys-yammer-for_n_1625193.htmlJun 26 00:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Buys Yammer For $1.2 Billion .::. Size~: 409.03 KBJun 26 00:42
DaemonFChttp://www.pocket-lint.com/news/45722/sodastream-fizz-pictures-hands-onJun 26 00:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: SodaStream Fizz drinks-maker pictures and hands-on - Pocket-lint .::. Size~: 52.87 KBJun 26 00:52
DaemonFCwas talking about this the other dayJun 26 00:52
DaemonFCI'm not impressedJun 26 00:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @unseenstudio #Crivins leaves it's teenage years behind with episode 20 - the #Mageia special wi Seb & Colin http://fwd4.me/1475 #ccm ...Jun 26 00:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crivins Episode 20 | Unseen Studio Audiocasts .::. Size~: 25.55 KBJun 26 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Stav.Jun 26 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The senior partners in the British coalition government have been spending too much time talking to USA Republicans. It is starting to show.Jun 26 01:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British government has started the process of putting an #NHS hospital into administration for the first time. #SavetheNHSJun 26 01:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turing Archive Director Questions Alan Turing Suicide Report. http://ur1.ca/9kg11Jun 26 01:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Turing suicide enigma challenged |                 UK news |         The Guardian .::. Size~: 63.41 KBJun 26 01:27
DaemonFChttp://www.rd.com/slideshows/13-things-a-movie-theater-employee-won%E2%80%99t-tell-you/Jun 26 01:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Things a Movie Theater Employee Won’t Tell You | Reader's Digest .::. Size~: 501.78 KBJun 26 01:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Orbitz customizing search results for #Mac users with higher-priced hotels http://goo.gl/bXMXf kinda predictable reallyJun 26 01:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Orbitz customizing search results for Mac users with higher-priced hotels | The Verge .::. Size~: 90.49 KBJun 26 01:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament Next Week http://goo.gl/k17Yo wtf?Jun 26 01:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of ACTA By European Parliament Next Week | Techdirt .::. Size~: 62.9 KBJun 26 01:45
DaemonFCI'd like to try out Netrunner, but they include Skype apparently in the default install?Jun 26 01:58
DaemonFCyuckJun 26 01:58
DaemonFCthat's even worse than MonoJun 26 01:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @whistlewright @laurelrusswurm mumble is a voice over internet thing. It is also one of the most underutilised services provided on p ...Jun 26 01:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: am back nowJun 26 02:01
schestowitzjust 4 hours of sleepJun 26 02:01
schestowitzg/f woke me upJun 26 02:01
schestowitz[01:55] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I have an MSNTV box that I got at an auction yesterdayJun 26 02:01
schestowitzwhat's this TV?Jun 26 02:01
DaemonFCit's a set top boxJun 26 02:01
schestowitz[03:08] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Did I mention the county commissioner that is under a sexual harassment investigation by the Indiana State Police?Jun 26 02:01
schestowitzI'd get flak for it, but "sexual harassment" is overratedJun 26 02:02
schestowitzsome women gave it a bad nameJun 26 02:02
schestowitzou can commit this with your mouthJun 26 02:02
schestowitzand I don't mean orallyJun 26 02:02
schestowitzLike if you tell a colleague her dress is niceJun 26 02:02
DaemonFCyeahJun 26 02:02
DaemonFCsome women overreactJun 26 02:02
schestowitzand when I last signed a work contract they hand out to me, as a guy, some form about sexual conuctJun 26 02:02
schestowitzappaently women complain about guys thereJun 26 02:03
schestowitzI wonderedJun 26 02:03
schestowitzdo women have to sign that too?Jun 26 02:03
schestowitzI sure hope soJun 26 02:03
schestowitzguys too can be subjected to "sexual harassment"Jun 26 02:03
DaemonFCtechnically....Jun 26 02:03
schestowitzThey just don't complain about itJun 26 02:03
schestowitzit's not liike rapeJun 26 02:03
DaemonFCsexual harassment charges can be filed by a man against a womanJun 26 02:03
DaemonFCbut it's so rare it's almost unheard ofJun 26 02:03
schestowitz!google atheist convention sex means coffee elevatorJun 26 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Whole Watson/McGraw/Elevator Guy/Richard Dawkins Mess ... | http://verbosestoic.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/the-whole-watsonmcgrawelevator-guyrichard-dawkins-mess/Jun 26 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Atheist Elevator Guy « Gucci Little Piggy | http://glpiggy.net/2011/07/04/atheist-elevator-guy/Jun 26 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - STREET CARNAGE » I SPIT IN YOUR COFFEE: FIVE RAPE ... | http://www.streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/blog/my-favorite-rape-revenge-movies/Jun 26 02:04
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Skepchick in an elevator is not interesting | Partial Objects | http://partialobjects.com/2011/07/skepchick-in-an-elevator-is-not-interesting/Jun 26 02:04
schestowitzwell, I guess my mate Mark can file for sexual harassmentJun 26 02:04
schestowitzhis tenant is making moves on himJun 26 02:05
schestowitzdoesn't matter how much he blows her offJun 26 02:05
DaemonFCyeah, even something well intentioned can be misconstruedJun 26 02:05
schestowitzhe's married with a child, he's a prof where she's a phd studentJun 26 02:05
schestowitzhe's twice her ageJun 26 02:05
schestowitzand she knows all thisJun 26 02:05
DaemonFCjust bringing someone a cup of coffee can be taken the wrong wayJun 26 02:05
schestowitzshe used to have an affair with her high school teacher, it's her only other relationshipJun 26 02:05
schestowitzhe tld me ysterdayJun 26 02:06
schestowitzhe wants to kick her outJun 26 02:06
schestowitzshe keeps putting her feet on himJun 26 02:06
schestowitzhe can't even watch a filmJun 26 02:06
schestowitza prisoner in his own house that he ownsJun 26 02:06
schestowitzand now she makes asshole remarksJun 26 02:06
schestowitzlike that can possibyl turn him o, obviously it doesn'tJun 26 02:07
schestowitzhe locks himself in the bathroom, for fear she'd deliberately walk in while he showersJun 26 02:07
DaemonFCthat's a big no noJun 26 02:07
DaemonFCteacher/studentJun 26 02:07
DaemonFCthat's illegal (here anyway) even if they're both adultsJun 26 02:08
schestowitzyeahJun 26 02:08
schestowitzhis colleagues ask about itJun 26 02:08
schestowitzit's a weird accidsental situationJun 26 02:09
schestowitzhe moved to spain with his wife and rented out his house in ManchesterJun 26 02:09
schestowitzso meanwhile she moved in and he can't get her outJun 26 02:09
schestowitzshe said to him yesterday, "what if I can't find another place?"Jun 26 02:09
schestowitzshe tries seducing him for months now, I keep telling him /(my g/f too) to get rid of her ASAPJun 26 02:10
schestowitzShe started by talking about hos little sex she'd hadJun 26 02:10
DaemonFCwell, it's a lesser offense of course if they're both adults, it's conflict of interestJun 26 02:10
schestowitzand then talked about her menstruation cycles to himJun 26 02:10
schestowitzout of nowhereJun 26 02:10
DaemonFCa teacher shouldn't have a relationship like that when they're in a position to grade papers and suchJun 26 02:10
schestowitznow asshole remarksJun 26 02:10
schestowitzI think it was after she graduatedJun 26 02:11
schestowitzbut anyway, girls these days go after older guysJun 26 02:11
DaemonFCnothing wrong with that as long as there's no conflict of interest, they're both adults, and nothing is coerced Jun 26 02:14
DaemonFCpeople make too big a deal out of sexJun 26 02:14
schestowitzstill...Jun 26 02:14
DaemonFCit's just sexJun 26 02:14
schestowitzhe's well old enough to be her dadJun 26 02:14
schestowitz48 vs 24Jun 26 02:15
DaemonFC24 = adultJun 26 02:15
schestowitzyesJun 26 02:15
schestowitzsex-driven societyJun 26 02:15
DaemonFCit's always been like thatJun 26 02:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @go2n Microsoft Block Access to Free Software Charity Site, Dub it ‘Gambling’ http://ur1.ca/9kg4lJun 26 02:15
DaemonFCit always will be Jun 26 02:15
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schestowitzHollywood glamourises itJun 26 02:15
DaemonFCnah, try a couple hundred thousand years before Hollywood existedJun 26 02:16
DaemonFClearning to be ashamed is a recent developmentJun 26 02:16
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 02:16
schestowitzit's an ownership thingJun 26 02:16
DaemonFCnahJun 26 02:20
DaemonFCit's about manipulation Jun 26 02:21
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/vixd5/microsoft_attacks_software_freedom_in_india_with/Jun 26 02:21
schestowitz"The IT@school project in Kerala is really a brilliant model which would be soon used as a base model for other boards in the country. One such output of this amazing concept is the creation of this wiki portal named SchoolWiki which is the result of collaborative learning in Kerala’s schools. I wonder whether the Govt. of Assam did have a background check before calling out M$ for this project !"Jun 26 02:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Attacks Software Freedom in India With EDGI/MoU Manoeuvre | Techrights : india .::. Size~: 54.51 KBJun 26 02:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The corporate monster (industry in the US) will extend two iron arms this year and ask us which one we want, Left or Right?Jun 26 02:22
DaemonFCschestowitz: Ron PaulJun 26 02:24
DaemonFCRupert Boneham Jun 26 02:24
DaemonFC(for Indiana governor)Jun 26 02:24
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_BonehamJun 26 02:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rupert Boneham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 52.4 KBJun 26 02:25
schestowitzRupeJun 26 02:25
DaemonFChttp://rupertforgovernor.com/meet-rupertJun 26 02:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: About Rupert .::. Size~: 43.78 KBJun 26 02:26
schestowitz"Yeah. Far more than any of the visual changes that always seem to be going on, what I'm really longing for is an api so we can get all kinds of other services working with D*" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1738737Jun 26 02:26
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: KDE To Become More Social  http://www.muktware.com/3737/kde-become-more-social #kde always at the forefrontJun 26 02:26
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DaemonFCschestowitz: The "Democrat", John Gregg, is a "DINO"Jun 26 02:28
DaemonFChe sounds a lot more like a RepublicanJun 26 02:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good Morning @Kevie @Mcnalu @Skpl @Thistleweb @Laurelrusswurm.Jun 26 02:29
DaemonFChe said he wants to cut the corporate tax rate to NOTHING and put a gay marriage ban into the state constitutionJun 26 02:29
DaemonFCI can't vote for that shitJun 26 02:29
DaemonFCthat's the same exact shit we'll be getting with the Republican (Mike Pence)Jun 26 02:30
MinceRperhaps that's what his funders wantJun 26 02:30
DaemonFCI figure I lose no matter which one wins, so I may as well just make a protest voteJun 26 02:30
DaemonFCvote for Rupert Boneham Jun 26 02:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Usually the Republican and Democrat at least try to pretend to be differentJun 26 02:31
DaemonFCthis year they've just dropped all the pretenses and admit they're really the same thingJun 26 02:31
MinceR:>Jun 26 02:32
MinceRi'm reading Republic, Lost by Lawrence LessigJun 26 02:32
DaemonFCthe biggest difference is the color of tie they wear Jun 26 02:32
DaemonFCthey both want a big authoritarian governmentJun 26 02:33
MinceRa big government is good for fundraising :>Jun 26 02:33
DaemonFCneither one of them want to cut government waste, rather they just make more of it every year but always claim to have cut it when they're up for re-electionJun 26 02:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Head of MI5 says that an unnamed British company has lost £800m due to cyber attacks. Sounds like the maths of copyright infringement.Jun 26 02:34
DaemonFCneither one of them want to get rid of illegal immigrantsJun 26 02:34
DaemonFCboth of them try to figure out how to take money from you and give it to private for-profit corporationsJun 26 02:34
DaemonFCeverything from defense contractors to privatized drinking waterJun 26 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Loch Ness monster cited by US schools as evidence that #evolution is myth - http://bit.ly/MKHhAa </facepalm>Jun 26 02:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Loch Ness monster cited by US schools as evidence that evolution is myth - Odd - Scotsman.com .::. Size~: 235.36 KBJun 26 02:35
DaemonFCMinceR: At least it peps up the economy a little bit when millionaires and billionaires let loose a trillion dollars  into the economy buying attack ads and funding these corrupt political campaignsJun 26 02:36
DaemonFCbut it's jsut temporaryJun 26 02:36
DaemonFClasts a few months at bestJun 26 02:36
MinceRonly a small part of the economy, i thinkJun 26 02:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/9kgbz #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 02:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @telecomix: MT @peter_tonoli: http://t.co/iW40XNGN gets listed as pornography http://t.co/TbPiqVbv #tlslog !copyfraudJun 26 03:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download music, movies, games, software! The Pirate Bay - The galaxy's most resilient BitTorrent site .::. Size~: 13.22 KBJun 26 03:17
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DaemonFCschestowitz: well, it has been a weird yearJun 26 03:22
DaemonFCwhat with all the drug addict minorities eating peopleJun 26 03:22
DaemonFCmaybe the loch ness monster is realJun 26 03:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kościół martwi się, że nie będzie 2h religii tygodniowo w szkołach bit.ly/MO6wn8 Zaraz mnie coś trafi! !polskaJun 26 03:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament Next Week - http://bit.ly/OkJGpj such contemptJun 26 04:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of ACTA By European Parliament Next Week | Techdirt .::. Size~: 79.24 KBJun 26 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple’s Patent Cases Against Android Continue Falling Apart, Oracle Tries Again http://ur1.ca/9kgv7 #oracle #apple #android #linuxJun 26 04:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just updated my projects page to include a third page of projects http://ur1.ca/9kgwaJun 26 04:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian and Ubuntu Surpass Red Hat and CentOS for Top Linux Distributions on SMB File Servers http://ur1.ca/9kgwp just not in terms of $Jun 26 04:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Online Infringement of #Copyright and the Digital Economy Act 2010: Ofcom's new code - http://bit.ly/MWeRkS 1 month consultation onlyJun 26 04:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Debian and Ubuntu Surpass Red Hat and CentOS for Top Linux Distributions on SMB File Servers - MarketWatch .::. Size~: 96.08 KBJun 26 04:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NVIDIA feels Torvalds' finger http://ur1.ca/9kgx5 http://ur1.ca/9kgx6 http://ur1.ca/9kgx7Jun 26 05:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch Pirate Party Now at Door to Parliament - http://bit.ly/MxglGG excellent stuff #nlJun 26 05:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Fundraising Good. Lawsuits Bad: The Oatmeal’s Indiegogo fundraiser ends with $220,000 in donations http://goo.gl/teiljJun 26 05:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look at #Sabayon Linux 9 http://ur1.ca/9kgyk #gnu #linuxJun 26 05:05
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747018Jun 26 05:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux  http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/linux-growth/  #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 05:07
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schestowitz"We'll see. Microsoft has ways of forcing compliance. And "some people" dislike the new os isn't all that earth shattering. "Some people" always manage to dislike a new os no matter what it is."Jun 26 05:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Will #Murdoch agree to spin off News Corp. publishing? http://goo.gl/XVnCv #FoxNews finally officially classed as "entertainment" thenJun 26 05:07
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schestowitz"...and"Twitter" still means nothing but the sound birds make, just like 20 years ago, because the meaning of words never changes, right, Randall?"Jun 26 05:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1742273Jun 26 05:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 12.10 Prepares To Improve Linux Performance http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_ups&num=1 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 05:09
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schestowitzHeheJun 26 05:09
schestowitzover "Ubuntu"Jun 26 05:09
schestowitzhijacking the brandsJun 26 05:09
schestowitzRight onJun 26 05:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1736975Jun 26 05:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: When you find unprotected wi-fi   ![](http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1vadntaRw1r5ltcq.gif)   #happy #gifJun 26 05:10
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schestowitz"Thanks, Axel, but that's an injustice. No one is responsible for the things other people do without their knowledge or consent."Jun 26 05:11
schestowitzIf practices like these become commonplace, it helps make the MAFIAA angry (they cannot track people), so that's good for everyone.Jun 26 05:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1744236Jun 26 05:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "OEMs can refuse to install M$’s key and the world will be at peace and “8″ will not boot on any PCs." http://mrpogson.com/2012/06/24/solving-the-secure-boot-problem-dont-let-windows-8-secure-boot/Jun 26 05:12
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schestowitz"I wish..."Jun 26 05:12
schestowitzMS no longer has the same leverage it once has; OEMs have Android, Ubuntu, etc.Jun 26 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @gijs NATO supports workshop to promote open source use by Afghanistan's public institutions #joinup http://ur1.ca/9kgpkJun 26 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament Next Week - http://bit.ly/OkJG ...Jun 26 05:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MI5 chief enters row over 'snoopers' charter' - http://bit.ly/NGKWla is he really stupid enough to believe that terrorists won't circumvent?Jun 26 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] (last link v @Privacymatters @Asher_Wolf)Jun 26 05:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 7 inches not enough for @SJVN http://ur1.ca/9kh17 still better than Nokia's 3 inchers. #elop #mole #nokia #google #android #tablet #hybridJun 26 05:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9kh1gJun 26 05:24
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iophkhttp://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/what-happens-now-to-nokia-lumia-and-windows-phone-after-microsoft-throws-nokia-under-the-bus.htmlJun 26 05:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxMint 13 Maya on my high-end laptop http://ur1.ca/9kh1l #gnu #linux #ubuntu #mayaJun 26 05:25
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iophk"Now we find that the total Lumia line has been Osborned. Not by Elop this time, this time that was done by Ballmer."Jun 26 05:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu Unity: Making the desktop seriously efficient again http://ur1.ca/9kh21 #unity #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 05:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What Happens Now to Nokia #Lumia and #Windows Phone, After #Microsoft Throws #Nokia Under the Bus? http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #elop #moleJun 26 05:29
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iophk"the N9 running MeeGo is the only smartphone ever made by Nokia that has consistently been rated as good as - or get this - better than the iPhone. "Jun 26 05:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Now we find that the total Lumia line has been Osborned. Not by Elop this time, this time that was done by Ballmer." http://ur1.ca/9kh23Jun 26 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "N9 running [Linux-based] MeeGo... consistently been rated as... better than the iPhone. " http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #mole #elopJun 26 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 05:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone changed the meaning of "smartphone" from "PDA/phone" to "featurephone with a touchscreen"'~MinceR@ #techrightsJun 26 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone made a phone that doesn't really work as a phone acceptable"' ~MinceR@ #techrights (copy&paste? Meh!)Jun 26 05:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Report from Bellevue: meaningful advances on Do Not Track http://dlvr.it/1mVm0zJun 26 05:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My PDA from 2004 still beats my Android 4.0 tablet in several areas. We're dumbed down and locked down to the point of uselessness.Jun 26 05:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark "they trust me, dumb f*cks" #Zuckerberg wants to read your #emails too, then sell your profile to 3rd parties http://ur1.ca/9kh4hJun 26 05:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At #facebook the product is you. The customers are companies that data-mine information on you--to drill your mind and sell you nasty stuff.Jun 26 05:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Digia: Akademy Sponsor & KDE e.V. Supporting Member http://ur1.ca/9kh5g #digia #kdeJun 26 05:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94923978Jun 26 05:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 09:09:03 UTC - Identi.ca: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 to Feature Btrfs http://ur1.ca/9kgz8 #redhat #btrfs #oracleJun 26 05:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook: nearly billion items of inventory and a growing list of customers, looking for backdoor access to all this inventory. #facebookJun 26 05:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DavidGaleUK/status/217552879756648449?uid=26603208&iid=am-212786989413407036232805197&nid=27+236Jun 26 05:46
TechrightsBot-tr@DavidGaleUK: @schestowitz My 2003 TC1100 tablet PC knocks spots of the lot of 'em... Full Adobe Photoshop tablet capability as part of PC workflow!Jun 26 05:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of ACTA By European Parliament Next Week http://identi.ca/url/72465257 !eff !fsfJun 26 05:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool" ~Richard Stallman http://ur1.ca/5bqdlJun 26 05:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] USTR Gives MPAA Full Online Access To TPP Text, But Still Won't Share With Senate Staffers http://identi.ca/url/72465313 !eff !fsfJun 26 05:49
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schestowitzquote the "inventor" http://boisdejustice.com/History/History.htmlJun 26 05:50
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schestowitz"The document making the death penalty "by mechanical decapitation" the law of the land in the Kingdom of France was signed both by Dr. Antoine Louis, secretary of the National Academy of Surgery, and by Louis the 16th., who was still King of France. Dr. Louis was the author of the technical portion of the document. He explained that this method was the only "humane" mode of execution which insured the condemned a swift and painless Jun 26 05:50
schestowitzdeath. A copy of the law was distributed to all the provinces for immediate implementation. To the right are the four pages of an original 1792 copy of the law sent to the department of Orne and hand-marked as No 76."Jun 26 05:50
schestowitzAlso very "humane" to the mother who watches in the crowd, right?Jun 26 05:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fungicide Used On Farm Crops Linked to Insulin Resistance http://identi.ca/url/72465401 !scienceJun 26 05:55
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iophkhttp://www.edge-online.com/news/microsofts-xbox-division-loses-229-millionJun 26 05:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Stores’ Army, Long on Loyalty but Short on Payhttp://goo.gl/VUC26 so it's a bit like clergy then...Jun 26 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Torvalds' finger taps "send" on #Linux 3.5-rc4 http://ur1.ca/9kha0Jun 26 06:00
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schestowitzthanks, I missed thatJun 26 06:00
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schestowitzThe company had lost billions on XboxJun 26 06:01
schestowitzhardware failures are consistent at MicrosoftJun 26 06:01
schestowitz"Mobile Linux is Tizen: you can't kill Linux."Jun 26 06:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747306Jun 26 06:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gesetzentwurf für Mitnutzung von WLANs: “Ohne Internetzugang ist man bereits heute Bürger zweiter Klasse” - http://bit.ly/LcHOKP sensibleJun 26 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] TechRadar shuts down forums after user database hacked http://goo.gl/GmymB (What about @tuxradar?)Jun 26 06:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digitale Gesellschaft präsentiert Gesetzentwurf für Mitnutzung von WLANs: “Ohne Internetzugang ist man bereits heute Bürger zweiter Klasse” | Digitale Gesellschaft .::. Size~: 41.51 KBJun 26 06:02
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schestowitzThey keep trying, but Linux is a hydra. LIPS collapsed onto LIMO, which then rejoined other effortsJun 26 06:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 8 Best Free !Linux Small Footprint Web Browsers http://goo.gl/InFJzJun 26 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Will head to the airport soon to travel to #Boston for this years #RedHat Summit and #JBoss World.Jun 26 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finally, after 3 agonising days of bad phone line and degraded connection, #bt finally fixed its problem at the exchange. What utter rubbishJun 26 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have just had the Christians around trying to save me. In the end they seemed quite keen to leave. !AtheismJun 26 06:05
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iophkXbox is kept afloat by the Office format and Desktop Windows monopolies.Jun 26 06:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #facebook was a brothel, you would not be the customer. And guess who's getting nailed?Jun 26 06:09
iophkThere is the possibility that they try to subsidize their 'tablet' like they are doing with the Xbox.  Jun 26 06:09
iophkThe Xbox was originally an experiment in DRMJun 26 06:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Miss #Kroes has coffee with the little people http://ur1.ca/9khcz joking aside, farms do have a Net access issue (cellular).Jun 26 06:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Internet access should hardly cost a thing. Given the number of connected people, we could use encrypted meshes and decentralise.Jun 26 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crony capitalism loves terrorism and child porn. It uses those to ban private networking, giving privatised Internet franchises to [..]Jun 26 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [..] corrupt gov. mates, who in turn enable the upper class spy on and upon demand harass the people down below (e.g. NSA chokepoints).Jun 26 06:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A decentralised method of Internet connection is vastly superior to what we have because there's no single point of failure except you.Jun 26 06:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Drapelul de luptă al României http://ur1.ca/9khdv #romania #flag #drapel #royal #monarchyJun 26 06:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Sfaturi gratis pentru domnul Nica http://ur1.ca/9khe9 #romania #mcsi #it #windows #linux #software #businessJun 26 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Privatisation of Internet in wireless era is priviaisation of zeroes and ones, which is actually worse than privatisation of oxygen (scarce)Jun 26 06:19
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/digital-champions-meet/Jun 26 06:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747306Jun 26 06:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 06:20
schestowitz"Microsoft is doing all it can to destroy free software. thats a known thing."Jun 26 06:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tom Watson adds voice to campaign to stop #ODwyer extradition - http://bit.ly/MqchXi bravo @tom_watson - who's next? (v @raycorrigan)Jun 26 06:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tom Watson adds voice to campaign to stop Richard O'Dwyer extradition | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 217.63 KBJun 26 06:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @harishpillay Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 06:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Anonymouse01: RT @telecomix: Dutch government will not ratify #ACTA (.nl) http://t.co/agWfx6hW (via @hasserosen)Jun 26 06:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So IF visiting Orbitz via Mac/iOS THEN show more expensive hotels. I wonder what happens when I show up on Orbitz from... http://b1t.it/bFOyJun 26 06:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - So IF visiting Orbitz via Mac/iOS THEN show more expensive… .::. Size~: 144.82 KBJun 26 06:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @harishpillay Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 06:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sony TVs use #linux http://ur1.ca/9khn4Jun 26 06:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #AUSTRUMI Still Alive, Who Knew? http://ur1.ca/9khnf #gnu #linuxJun 26 06:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747306 Jun 26 06:55
schestowitz"@Roy yep, you could even add Maemo/MeeGo/Moblin, but it's always Linux, backed by an army now: http://www.tizenassociation.org/en/ "Jun 26 06:55
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 06:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jerezim: EPIC translation of Marielle Gallo's intereview http://ur1.ca/9khly (one of the last defenders of #ACTA in the EU Parliament)Jun 26 07:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Translation Interview Marielle Gallo ACTA pcinpact - La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 16.65 KBJun 26 07:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] After having watched DVB-T for a few weeks now, I have a new favourite TV channel - Vimeo :-) It is truly unbelievable... http://b1t.it/bFO0Jun 26 07:09
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schestowitziophk: I got some bad news:Jun 26 07:11
schestowitz> Before the XXXXXX, I would like to tell you privately (do what youJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> want with it, but don't necessarily put my name tag on it, as these areJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> soon to be confirmed facts and my name next to it would make it aJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> partial analysis):Jun 26 07:12
schestowitz> Jun 26 07:12
schestowitz> There's a real hold up on the Apache Openoffice project by IBM. You mayJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> not think these are news, but now there is data to prove it. I'm notJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> speaking of the committers list, full of the Lotus Chinese engineers whoJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> post with their Gmail accout pretending they're independent. I'mJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> speaking about commit stats being grossly tricked by adding anJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> inordinate amount of noise to them, such as contributions made by Mr.Jun 26 07:12
schestowitz> Bug Zilla, Mr Con Fluence... but more worrying (not for LibreOffice, butJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> for FOSS and the ASF in general): IBM is rebasing Apache OpenOffice onJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> IBM Symphony. Let me put this in really simple terms.  You join the ASFJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> with one software, OpenOffice.org . You are very adamant at claiming youJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> ARE the Openoffice.org project, even though you lost your community andJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> the engineers who go with it. You start the Apache Incubation Process.Jun 26 07:12
schestowitz> It's still not over yet, and you release Apache OpenOffice 3.4, whichJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> really is OpenOffice.org 3.4 (no real features added since the OracleJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> beta of the 3.4) with the changed licensed headers. You end up releasingJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> a security fix, the 3.4.1 in a few months, but you explain that ApacheJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> Openoffice 4 will really be... Symphony. Now, Symphony is based onJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> OpenOffice.org, but it's not a skin, or a set of extensions on top ofJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> it. It's a completely different software. So you hijack the wholeJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> community by "contributing a several million lines of code" no one canJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> make sense of instead of the software you are pretending to continue.Jun 26 07:12
schestowitz> Now, that's good news for LibreOffice, because in the end we have twoJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> different software. But for ASF and FOSS, it's a pity. It's a big lie,Jun 26 07:12
schestowitz> and big deception made by one corporation that thinks  we're still inJun 26 07:12
schestowitz> 2002, trying to control Free Software and handling the community as someJun 26 07:12
Diablo-D3holy fuck royJun 26 07:13
schestowitz> sort of fanclub designed to dress up the shop-window fence.Jun 26 07:13
Diablo-D3pastebin that fucking shitJun 26 07:13
schestowitzi would..Jun 26 07:13
schestowitzbut it's importantJun 26 07:13
schestowitzworth reading inlineJun 26 07:13
Diablo-D3pastebin. that fucking. shit.Jun 26 07:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@HansCJohansson @mariejeD66 not if we push copyright reform in EU! #ACTAJun 26 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Netrunner 4.2: It's an Everything but the Kitchen Sink Kind of Distro (Review) http://ur1.ca/9kht7 #gnu #linuxJun 26 07:22
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schestowitziophk: is this something that you saw also? And foresaw when Oracle took over?Jun 26 07:23
iophkReading it...Jun 26 07:25
schestowitzMiss Zilla is a top contributorJun 26 07:27
iophkOracle has in general been more than cluess regarding the assets it acquired via Sun.  Jun 26 07:27
iophkOne would think that the only reason for the take over would be to get MySQL and InnoDB out of the way.Jun 26 07:28
schestowitzit gave the TM to IBM via apacheJun 26 07:28
schestowitzIBM can now use it to push its proprietary LotusJun 26 07:29
iophkAFAIK the community went almost entirely over to LOJun 26 07:29
schestowitzeven red hatJun 26 07:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Overview Of #Qt 5.0 Features http://ur1.ca/9khus #kdeJun 26 07:30
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iophkIBM is about the only contributor left in AOO, so it would not be hard for them to effect a take over.Jun 26 07:30
schestowitzRob Weir has been making snide remarks at LOJun 26 07:33
schestowitzFor a while now, since the startJun 26 07:33
schestowitzEven PJ whom he relied on helped LOJun 26 07:33
schestowitzDr. Sutor kept mostly quietJun 26 07:33
schestowitzHe's busy with some rubbish iHype and "cloud" BSJun 26 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zorin OS 6 Review http://ur1.ca/9kc1y #gnu #linuxJun 26 07:34
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schestowitzDriving IBM's "Linux and open source" into some unspecified territoriesJun 26 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Four Big Battles for EU Openness Happening Now - http://bit.ly/MRO4tu busy: #ACTA, #swpats, #openstandards, #openaccessJun 26 07:35
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iophkWhen Oracle took over, I was concerned that it would be clueless about its new assets, which it has proven to be,  I also saw that IBM was about the only contributor, but didn't suspect that it would up and hijack the code base as you seem to point out is happening.Jun 26 07:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux Setup - Chris, Open Source Developer http://ur1.ca/9khx7 #linux #gnuJun 26 07:39
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schestowitziophk: what can be done about it now?Jun 26 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ulteo is still around http://ur1.ca/9khyb #gnu #linuxJun 26 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We are looking for someone in the United Arab Emirates who can run #Tor and test a few things for us. Please email help@rt.torproject.orgJun 26 07:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ulteo OVD 3 - Open Source Remote Desktop | The Virtualization Practice .::. Size~: 64.64 KBJun 26 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 3.5 (#1): Networking http://ur1.ca/9khyr #linux #kernel #network #drivers #codel #bufferbloat #EarlyRetransmit #tokenringJun 26 07:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Coming in 3.5 (Part 1) - Networking - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 55.21 KBJun 26 07:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Wheezy #GNU #kFreeBSD : Slower Than #Linux http://ur1.ca/9khyv interesting and rare benchmarkJun 26 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Tatjana Kron http://ur1.ca/9khz6Jun 26 07:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 2: smooth upgrade http://ur1.ca/9khza #mandriva #gnu #linuxJun 26 07:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Debian Wheezy GNU/kFreeBSD: Slower Than Linux .::. Size~: 19.33 KBJun 26 07:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Just updated !fsfe 's audio section http://ur1.ca/9khzb with the radio panel discussion about !freesoftware (German)Jun 26 07:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Audio - FSFE Fellowship Wiki .::. Size~: 19.43 KBJun 26 07:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asus Transformer Prime http://ur1.ca/9ki34 #asus #linuxJun 26 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Judge Posner: "No more can Apple be permitted to force a trial in Federal Court the sole outcome of which would be an award of $1."Jun 26 08:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hulu Plus Android app tweaked for 7-inch, high res screens, officially supports more devices http://ur1.ca/9ki4q #linux #androidJun 26 08:07
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schestowitz"I'd buy this before anything made by Apple!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747600Jun 26 08:08
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Asus Transformer Prime http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/asus-transformer-prime #asus #linuxJun 26 08:08
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schestowitzApple makes stuff?!Jun 26 08:09
MinceRyes: hot air.Jun 26 08:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747485Jun 26 08:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Outcry as Iraq moves to close 44 media orgs **Press freedom advocates cry foul as authorities announce closure of dozens of media outlets.**     ![photo: Iraqi newpapers](http://gdb.rferl.org/EC348771-0F9C-4F7B-AD43-0A1DCDD76F14_mw800_s.jpg)            [Kristin Deasy/globalpost.com](http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/iraq/120623/outcry-iraq-moves-close-44-media-orgs)      Iraqi Jun 26 08:11
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schestowitz[10:35] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone changed the meaning of "smartphone" from "PDA/phone" to "featurephone with a touchscreen"'~MinceR@ #techrightsJun 26 08:12
schestowitz[10:35] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone made a phone that doesn't really work as a phone acceptable"' ~MinceR@ #techrights (copy&paste? Meh!)Jun 26 08:12
MinceRi saw themJun 26 08:13
MinceR:)Jun 26 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PureOS 5.0 Released, Incorporates GIMP 2.8 http://ur1.ca/9kb6v #gimp #gnu #linuxJun 26 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Best Android/Linux Tablets That Rival The New Foxconn tablet with tripled price (badged iPad '3') http://ur1.ca/9ki7bJun 26 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 30 #Linux Kernel Developers in 30 Weeks: Sarah Sharp http://ur1.ca/9khc2 no stereotypical (and mythical) #unix beardJun 26 08:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright - http://bit.ly/KKfhQ9 more monopoliesJun 26 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright | Techdirt .::. Size~: 44.16 KBJun 26 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Kernel 3.4.4 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9ki8bJun 26 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Beta Of #Krita 2.5 Now Available For Testing http://ur1.ca/9ki8j #kdeJun 26 08:30
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94928298Jun 26 08:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Aurélien (gnuteck)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 12:30:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the !linuxlibre version of the 3.4.4 is already avalaible at !fsfla and fscorsica.org free !Debian also avalaible on !ParabolaJun 26 08:36
schestowitzMinceR: http://youtu.be/8Eam-z1bwrkJun 26 08:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Alright, let's see whether slideshare works for me: http://is.gd/bbYVQVJun 26 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Valve Picks Up Steam With Influence From Larabel http://ur1.ca/9kibx #valve #linux #phoronixJun 26 08:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1746971Jun 26 08:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate monster (industry in the US) will extend two iron arms this year and ask us which one we want, Left or Right?Jun 26 08:50
schestowitz"...and own both of them!"Jun 26 08:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Winning BIG on #ACTA and Beyond! - http://bit.ly/Ld43QS "The ACTA debate could mark the beginning of a new era"Jun 26 08:50
schestowitziophk: : https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747304Jun 26 08:50
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schestowitz"Jun 26 08:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "N9 running [Linux-based] MeeGo... consistently been rated as... better than the iPhone. " http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/what-happens-now-to-nokia-lumia-and-windows-phone-after-microsoft-throws-nokia-under-the-bus.html #mole #elopJun 26 08:50
schestowitzSuch a sad story...Jun 26 08:50
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schestowitzThey had it coming when the mole announced the "let's jump the burning platform" strategy bullshit. It was so obvious...Jun 26 08:50
schestowitzSad to see Nokia die such a ridiculuos death.Jun 26 08:51
schestowitzHopefully, other companies will think twice before making similar deals with M$...Jun 26 08:51
schestowitz"Jun 26 08:51
iophkNokia didn't just get suckered into a deal with M$, they got a mole who brought in more moles.Jun 26 08:51
iophkSimilar happened to Yahoo!Jun 26 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] György Ligeti: Complete Chronological Catalogue & Études Mix - http://bit.ly/NHFNtg fab stuff - one of my favourite composers #spotifyJun 26 08:52
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iophkschestowitz: diaspora links don't work on any of my browsers on any platform. :(Jun 26 08:52
schestowitzowser compliance is the ****Jun 26 08:53
schestowitz*it's b*Jun 26 08:53
schestowitz*its browser complianceJun 26 08:53
schestowitzmy keystrokes got chmped thereJun 26 08:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Giving the code away http://ur1.ca/9kicj it's not physical property, it's knowledge. It can be shared.Jun 26 08:55
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MinceRiophk: they seem to work in firefox 7.0 if joindiaspora.com and cloudfront.net are allowed to run scriptsJun 26 08:57
formic_schestowitz: I am a computer. Stop all the downloading.Jun 26 08:57
iophkMinceR: lame.  Why can't they use plain HTML+CSS?Jun 26 08:58
iophkAbout ACTA, the negative recommendations can (and might be) overridden when it comes to the actual vote in a few weeks.Jun 26 08:58
schestowitzthey want more featuresJun 26 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] French government contract for open source http://ur1.ca/9jwb9 all governments should give FLOSS preference (local industry)Jun 26 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ORG Reaction: Ofcom DEA code will lead to wrongful court cases - http://bit.ly/M03VZb "Grounds for appeal have been narrowed" #deactJun 26 08:59
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MinceRiophk: because they don't understand the webJun 26 08:59
iophkIt's not like web is a new technology any more.Jun 26 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Did someone test if !fsfe is also filtered out by #Microsoft? OUr donate page: http://fsfe.org/donate and /join http://ur1.ca/9jz3bJun 26 09:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Jannemans: RT @aral: …or you can fax Karel De Gucht your thoughts on #ACTA, because he's all hip like that: (+32) 02 29 80899Jun 26 09:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] C'mon #Nokia, will you fire the Elop mole already? http://ur1.ca/9kh23Jun 26 09:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mathematicians in France Use #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/9kids they can think, thus they can make informed fdecisionsJun 26 09:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The cracks spread: Why News Corporation’s rumored split isn’t a surprise - http://tnw.co/LyHM2v good, plausible anlaysis #publishingJun 26 09:04
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schestowitzDon't worry, be happy https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1745926Jun 26 09:05
TechrightsBot-tr@blindsite@calispora.org: #health #emotions #spirituality #mindbodyspiritJun 26 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Direct Costs from Patent Troll Disputes - http://bit.ly/M059nc "We estimate that firms accrued $29 billion of direct costs in 2011"Jun 26 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Netflix open sources Asgard cloud deployment smarts - http://bit.ly/MX4e1a more #opensource scaling goodnessJun 26 09:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MIT’s new software can detect your vital signs with just video camera - http://tnw.co/MPmrjl why are you embarrassed by this news? #pirvacyJun 26 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZorinOS 6 Core preview http://ur1.ca/9kifp http://ur1.ca/9kifq #gnu #linuxJun 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Gives MPAA Full Access To #TPP Text, But Still Won't Share With Senate Staffers - http://bit.ly/MqG2qW don't even as 4 the publicJun 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Europe's cultural sector is something to be proud of: my speech to #openculture12 http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/e3Ax2FJun 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @publictorsten: @Volker_Beck Auch ein Thema: Homophobie im IT-Sektor und das Coming-Out eines der promin http://p.ost.im/p/e3Js4jJun 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Una agricultora llamada Chris reescribe las reglas de la economía, por @NeelieKroesEU http://p.ost.im/p/e3FvJDJun 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Some governments yet to appoint #digitalchampions - they're missing out! http://t.co/hgm http://p.ost.im/p/e3DNmrJun 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @BrusselsGeek: Only part of the Robert Madelin interview up. More to follow on #cloud http://t.co/xyVIrB http://p.ost.im/p/e3LmDdJun 26 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Yesterday national #digitalchampions met for the 1st time in Bxl: http://t.co/hgmFLXwZ # http://p.ost.im/p/e3DrSuJun 26 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Calligra 2.5 Beta Released http://ur1.ca/9kign #kdeJun 26 09:19
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schestowitz"but Linux runs comparatively well on bad machines" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747018Jun 26 09:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux  http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/linux-growth/  #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 09:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet piracy appeal fee challenged by Consumer Focus - http://bbc.in/LNuyxh bravi (v @SaskiaWalzel @copyrightgirl) #deactJun 26 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Religion and children [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9kih6 #humor #religion #newJun 26 09:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Galaxy S3 Ubuntu installation possible, if you got the urge for some Linux http://ur1.ca/9kihf making powerful phones actually usableJun 26 09:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New #GM industry push in the UK - http://bit.ly/MPgKnp more weak reporting by #BBCJun 26 09:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A shot of Samsung Galaxy S3 running #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/9kihx #linuxJun 26 09:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody New #GM industry push in the UK - http://bit.ly/MPgKnp more weak reporting by #BBCJun 26 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's not unusual for the #msbbc to give #GMO (nature monopolies) mouthpieces a platform http://ur1.ca/0l524 //cc @glynmoody @gmwatchJun 26 09:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gnome 3.5.3 Will Bring Great Improvements http://ur1.ca/9kik5 #gnu #gnomeJun 26 09:35
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iophkhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbookJun 26 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] NPG's Scientific Reports introduces #CC BY as an option for authors: http://www.nature.com/press_releases/cc-by.html #openaccessJun 26 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Najwyraźniej Warszawski Hackerspace @hackerspacepl jest już zarejestrowanym stowarzyszeniem. :)Jun 26 09:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament Next Week - http://bit.ly/OkJGpjJun 26 09:42
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iophkWe'll see how long Asus is allowed to try Linux this time.Jun 26 09:43
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iophk"This implicitly confirms that the referral was simply a way to buy time, rather than an honest question about ACTA's legality."Jun 26 09:49
iophkThe Asus netbook has rather low resolution.Jun 26 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A mobile built of heavy machines. Stunning #MachinePorn  via +Jasmin Kassner - http://youtu.be/eN5Dho8YlzM http://... http://b1t.it/bFSQJun 26 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright http://identi.ca/url/72469184Jun 26 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/6/2012: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 is Coming http://ur1.ca/9kirw #techrightsJun 26 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Internationalization Tag Set (ITS) Version 2.0 Draft Published http://dlvr.it/1mZ04lJun 26 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The White House Wants To Hear From You Concerning Its Strategy For Intellectual Property Enforcement http://identi.ca/url/72469310Jun 26 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Web Intents Draft Published http://dlvr.it/1mZ06HJun 26 10:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU #lobbyist register gives incomplete picture - http://bit.ly/M0kJPM "60 percent of companies lobbying to get #ACTA ratified missing" oh?Jun 26 10:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@wikileaks "Assange a high-tech terrorist," said Joe Biden. "Now excuse me, I have to use a flying robot to bomb a wedding from 40k feet."Jun 26 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Conflicts of interest still evident on new ESFA expert panels - http://bit.ly/M0mJYk #syngenta, #monsanto etc. of course...Jun 26 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻@wikileaks "Assange a high-tech terrorist," said Joe Biden. "Now excuse me, I have to use a flying robot to bomb a wedding from 40k feet."Jun 26 10:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747018Jun 26 10:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux  http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/linux-growth/  #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 10:38
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schestowitz"It sure does, but when the hardware dies after a few years, it just creates more garbage. I have two HP laptops from ten years ago that do not work at all. They can't be repaired, refurbished, recycled or reused. It's not very sustainable when the battery dies, the hard drive crashes, the processor melts off the board, the casing breaks and the video card's solder joints crack. I'm sure both of those laptops made HP plenty of money in Jun 26 10:38
schestowitzthe short term, but in the long term they're bad for the environment. So I really don't care if these OEMs get screwed by Microsoft."Jun 26 10:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94931362Jun 26 10:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:36:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I hope he doesn't himself. He might hit my house :-(Jun 26 10:39
schestowitzThere's carpet-bombing only in nations full of "brown people" (Carlin's term), so collateral damage involved 'low-value' people, aka "terrorists"Jun 26 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Belluzzo killed SGI (http://ur1.ca/9kj05) & so will Elop Nokia & like Belluzzo, Elop will join MSFT. Sigh. #inJun 26 10:47
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iophkNokia shareholders have a big job before them.  Not only did the board hire a belluzzo, they kept him in.  However, nothing at this point is likely to save Nokia from insolvency.Jun 26 11:06
iophkhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-25/nokia-drops-on-microsoft-system-decision-helsinki-moverJun 26 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Charles-H. Schulz Speaks About Mandriva, http://ur1.ca/1t8w2, and LibreOffice http://ur1.ca/9kj7u #tdf #odf #ibm #ooo #libreoffice #mandrivaJun 26 11:19
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gnufreexschestowitz: What's the story on Sony Ericsson and Huawei? I mean about their Android phones. Are they taxed by M$?Jun 26 11:35
gnufreexschestowitz: And also AlcatelJun 26 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @fontana @bkuhn BTW it is !disturbing that you use HRspeak term "PTO"Jun 26 11:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Myth Dispensing: The Whole 'Spotify Barely Pays Artists' Story Is Bunk - http://bit.ly/M0A8zu another one bites the dust #fudJun 26 11:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody The Direct Costs from Patent Troll Disputes - http://bit.ly/M059nc "We estimate that firms accrued $29 billion of direct c ...Jun 26 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Written in a different time but quite apt for today. "I remember the newspapers dying like huge moths."Jun 26 11:49
formic_<3 LGJun 26 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Plenty of cool artwork in progress for Liberated Pixel Cup http://ur1.ca/9fkc7 Only a few days left in the art contest! http://ur1.ca/8swpkJun 26 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] RT @kirschner !fsfe 's donation page is listed as "Technical Information" by #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/9kiea Support us http://fsfe.org/j ...Jun 26 12:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Protect our woods - http://bit.ly/MPXINB #epetition to stop possible sell-off of UK forests (again): pl. sign & RT #conservationJun 26 12:19
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747304Jun 26 12:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "N9 running [Linux-based] MeeGo... consistently been rated as... better than the iPhone. " http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/what-happens-now-to-nokia-lumia-and-windows-phone-after-microsoft-throws-nokia-under-the-bus.html #mole #elopJun 26 12:29
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schestowitz"Yes, it was like "let's jump from the burning platform... now I've thrown a match in the oilwell.""Jun 26 12:30
iophkThe share holders need to face up to the grim fact that the board brought in a belluzzo an have kept him despite all factors pointing to requiring his expulsion and/or fining.Jun 26 12:39
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koolhead17hi allJun 26 12:53
schestowitzhi koolhead17Jun 26 12:54
koolhead17schestowitz, long time. how are you buddy?Jun 26 12:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2012/06/24/changsan-sells-out-in-guwahati/Jun 26 12:54
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koolhead17jono, pingJun 26 12:54
schestowitzkoolhead17: my connection has spoiled the past 4 days, but I think it's fixed for good nowJun 26 12:55
koolhead17schestowitz, the guy heading the depratment been kicked.replaced :(Jun 26 12:55
schestowitzThe landline was affected alsoJun 26 12:55
koolhead17ooh okJun 26 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Next week is going to be tough. Expect (and ignore ;-) some depressed posts from me. This is just a fair warning.Jun 26 12:59
schestowitzSome Ubuntu apologists annoy meJun 26 12:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1742273Jun 26 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 12.10 Prepares To Improve Linux Performance http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_ups&num=1 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 12:59
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schestowitz"Jun 26 12:59
schestowitzYou've just made my argument, and that's why the legend of the "Challenged Chicken" exists.Jun 26 12:59
schestowitzWhen the whole thing we call now call an OS was essentially mostly a kernel (back in the 90's), the word "linux" might have been appropos. We're not the 90's and the word now means a kernel. Time to move on and drop the L word.Jun 26 12:59
schestowitzThe article isn't about kernel tuning. It's about tuning an entire system.Jun 26 12:59
schestowitz"Jun 26 12:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747293 "The author does a pretty good job avoiding the L word."Jun 26 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Unity: Making the desktop seriously efficient again http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntu-unity-making-the-desktop-seriously-efficient-again/3701 #unity #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 13:00
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schestowitzTHis guy is high up in UbuntuJun 26 13:00
schestowitzand he's worjking hard to stop people using the L wordJun 26 13:00
schestowitzJust using the Ubuntu\{tm} nameJun 26 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] About to do a live video tutorial about testing your Ubuntu app - watch live at http://is.gd/oa5ieZ #ubuntuJun 26 13:00
schestowitzIt sickens meJun 26 13:00
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schestowitzAnd others there are also annoyed at himJun 26 13:00
schestowitzjono: why does he do this? He pisses people off, it's not helpingJun 26 13:01
formic_ubuntu isn't linuxJun 26 13:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tune in! Starting now: @EFF Fellow Jason Schultz (@lawgeek) talks about kids and online #privacy https://eff.org/r.a9dKJun 26 13:07
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schestowitza truck is a car?Jun 26 13:07
formic_nopeJun 26 13:07
formic_a truck shares a lot of the same mechanics but they are fundamentally different and have several differing usesJun 26 13:08
formic_if i owned the linux trademark i wouldnt let ubuntu use itJun 26 13:08
formic_damaging to the nameJun 26 13:08
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sebsebsebhiJun 26 13:08
koolhead17sebsebseb, holaJun 26 13:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Apple deixa cair imunidade dos Macs - Tecnologia - Sol http://goo.gl/87kVd - se a religião assim o afirma!!! ;)Jun 26 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 13:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Greenpeace Parody Site Censored Using #Copyright Infringement Claim - http://bit.ly/LNag5s taste of things to come if #ACTA/#TPP passJun 26 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Has Creative Commons changed your life? Enter @ShareableDesign Storytelling Contest for $1000 sharing service credit http://ow.ly/bdzavJun 26 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Beyond the Beagle: Seven Open Source Board Projects that Count bit.ly/Or1394Jun 26 13:24
MinceRformic_: "Ubuntu® -- Like GNU/Linux, Only Worse™"?Jun 26 13:25
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formic_"Ubuntu® -- Like GNU plus Linux™, Only Worse™"?Jun 26 13:26
formic_Linux is a trademark tooJun 26 13:26
formic_If Linus really hated the FSF, he could shut down the whole GNU prefix thing anytime by enforcing his rights.Jun 26 13:27
formic_except in CanadaJun 26 13:27
MinceRExcept in Nebraska!Jun 26 13:28
formic_where Linux is a registered trademark for a swiss company that sells fabric softner and laundry detergentsJun 26 13:28
MinceRyes, he could shut down the whole Linux postfix thing anytimeJun 26 13:28
formic_http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/vwTrdmrk.do?lang=eng&status=OK&fileNumber=1212035&extension=0&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1Jun 26 13:28
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formic_yeah but Linus isn't a jerkJun 26 13:28
fewtWhat's wrong with Ubuntu?Jun 26 13:30
fewtXDJun 26 13:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://ur1.ca/tch names #linux 5 times in the front page. Also states: "We fight for software freedom" (except #UEFI *eyeroll*)Jun 26 13:30
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formic_its UbuntuJun 26 13:31
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formic_http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UbuntuJun 26 13:34
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formic_A little known fact of the development process involves the use of "numbers stations", shortwave radio stations commonly thought to be used by spies speaking in code, but these are actually Ubuntu developers planning what to hose next.Jun 26 13:39
formic_For example, 1, 5, 7, 7,4, 7, 8, 3, 9, 2, 5, 4, 4, 1 = Let's royally fuck his webcam and make Pulseaudio go apeshit on resume from suspend, then when he reboots, hang the system forcing a hard reset.Jun 26 13:39
fewtformic_ I agreeJun 26 13:40
fewt(about Ubuntu)Jun 26 13:40
formic_Ubuntu is always first and foremost guided by the Code of Conduct, a religious document written by L. Ron Shuttleworth, that depicts a Galactic Confederation, led by the Dark Lord Gatesu, who brought UNIX users to Earth in space planes that looked like DC-9 aircraft...Jun 26 13:40
fewtWow, you think more highly of Mark than most of the rest of us. XDJun 26 13:40
formic_lolJun 26 13:40
fewt;)Jun 26 13:41
formic_uncyclopediaJun 26 13:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/9kk1sJun 26 13:45
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748123Jun 26 13:50
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Charles-H. Schulz Speaks About Mandriva, Openoffice.org, and LibreOffice http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/mandriva-openoffice-and-libreoffice/ #tdf #odf #ibm #ooo #libreoffice #mandrivaJun 26 13:50
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schestowitz"LOL! I was a little bit confused until i realized that the creator of the "Peanuts"-Cartoons is Charles M. Schulz. ;-)"Jun 26 13:50
XFaCEschestowitz: I can't get a job at The Young Turks ;)Jun 26 13:50
XFaCEschestowitz: "Thank you for your interest in the position however unfortunately we need the people who fill these positions to be residents of the continental United States."Jun 26 13:51
XFaCEI know what to doJun 26 13:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 13:51
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:51
schestowitzAnd in 10 minutes one of those guys is going to comment how that is not helping the cause to whine about them not mentioning their roots. You all know who Im talking about.Jun 26 13:51
schestowitzGetting aggressive about it. I dont know why.Jun 26 13:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 13:51
XFaCEDiablo-D3: You need to smuggle me into the USJun 26 13:51
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:51
schestowitzXFaCE: haJun 26 13:51
XFaCEschestowitz: This complicates my plan significantlyJun 26 13:51
schestowitz"did they forget "Linux for human beings"?"Jun 26 13:52
schestowitz"they're really denying their roots, #AlanTuring not mentioned either :P"Jun 26 13:52
XFaCEschestowitz: To make a Techrights and officeial segment of TYTJun 26 13:52
XFaCElolJun 26 13:52
schestowitz"I'm pretty sure at this point, Canonical is both dumb and evil."Jun 26 13:52
schestowitz"/usr/share and that; I believe, is creating all this negativity in the gnu circles towards the ubuntu project. Theres countless hours of work that have been done to get gnu and linux this far and now that one of the players might have the meanst to get the masses to use their software they pull the ruck under the gnu and linux enthusiasts. For me, its not right."Jun 26 13:52
schestowitzXFaCE: i wish..Jun 26 13:53
fewtI think we all need to build a next gen set of command line tools and GUI using C#Jun 26 13:53
schestowitz]"To take so much from upstream (there would have never been a "ubuntu" without them), and not even mention it..."Jun 26 13:53
*fewt jokesJun 26 13:53
schestowitz"I strongly prefer the world not adapt a corrupted version of gnulinux. If you look at some of Marc Shuttleworth's more controversial blog posts such as his attitude toward the Gnome community, IMO, he starts looking a lot like Larry Ellison."Jun 26 13:53
XFaCEfewt: See? Look athte improvement. The amount of time needed to process goes up!Jun 26 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LCA2013 opens call for sponsors http://ur1.ca/9kk33Jun 26 13:54
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XFaCEfewt: Bigger nunmbers are better right?Jun 26 13:54
Diablo-D3[01:51:20] <XFaCE> Diablo-D3: You need to smuggle me into the USJun 26 13:54
fewtyesJun 26 13:54
Diablo-D3fuck youJun 26 13:54
fewtbigger numbers are always betterJun 26 13:54
Diablo-D3I dont want to be tasered by the policeJun 26 13:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: A joke dudeJun 26 13:54
Diablo-D3tasers are not a laughing matterJun 26 13:54
XFaCEI sent a resume to the young turks about the internships they were offeringJun 26 13:54
schestowitzMandriva did a fine job delivering gnu and linux before Canonical even existed, so one common apologists' line does not apply.Jun 26 13:54
Diablo-D3they are a leathal weapon and are banned by the geneva conventionJun 26 13:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: AbsolutelyJun 26 13:55
XFaCEDiablo-D3: People initally thought they were phasers, another "Trek tech" come to lifeJun 26 13:55
fewtUbuntu is a lethal weapon banned by the geneva conventionJun 26 13:55
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:55
schestowitzRyuken: "Fighting for "GNU" and "Linux" naming is like. Person with name "Sean" wants to be called "seen" and not "Shawn". Semantic and ego stuff is not productive at all."Jun 26 13:55
schestowitzMe: If that were true, then the people fighting against the use of the GNU and Linux names would not be working so hard to erase the name of their sources. This is purely about trying to take credit for the work of others, trying to make one's own work look better at the expense of those whose work is foundational. Jun 26 13:55
XFaCEDiablo-D3: They are disaterousJun 26 13:55
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:55
fewtit causes facepalms with so much force that people dieJun 26 13:55
fewttrue storyJun 26 13:55
fewthahJun 26 13:55
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Unfortunately, "Don't tase me bro" became a funny memeJun 26 13:56
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:56
schestowitzUbuntu is still an open source operating system, and all of their new software (Unity, Software Center...) is free.Jun 26 13:56
schestowitzAnd yeah, Ubuntu still shows "with Linux x.xx.xx" in the bootloader, the kernel package is still called "linux"... The point of hiding the word "Linux" on their websites is just in avoiding all the bad stereotypes surrounding Linux.Jun 26 13:56
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:56
MinceRfewt: why not build that next gen set of command line tools and GUI on Malbolge instead?Jun 26 13:56
scientes"avoiding all the bad stereotypes surrounding Linux."Jun 26 13:57
scienteswhat a load of bull-shitJun 26 13:57
scientesFUDJun 26 13:57
fewtMinceR - use Visual Studio and run them in MonoJun 26 13:57
schestowitz"@Ryuken Ishida: as i said, Mint is based on Ubuntu, approx. 95% of the code is identical i guess. My search for help on IRC wasn't Mint specific, so i thought the users in the Ubuntu-Channel could give me some hints. And i bet they could - but they didn't want to."Jun 26 13:57
schestowitz"If your questeion is not Mint specific but say DesktopEnvironment then you can always get generalized support from Ubuntu forums. I have personally helped people on "Desktop environment" category who are using ubuntu derivatives. I guess there is also forum for that. If people are going to mention "Mint" then surely many folks will ignore the thread because package specific help can't be expected from ubuntu forums and why? Doesn't Jun 26 13:57
schestowitzdistro like Mint has forums or IRC? If not then they should have it. Isn't it?"Jun 26 13:57
MinceRfewt: and wonder why it doesn't work? :>Jun 26 13:57
scientes"approx. 95% of the code is identical i guess. "Jun 26 13:57
fewtMinceR yesJun 26 13:57
fewtand rage on the internets about itJun 26 13:57
scientesmore like 99.9%Jun 26 13:57
MinceRfewt: niceJun 26 13:57
fewt:DJun 26 13:57
MinceRfewt: call it RaegOSJun 26 13:58
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:58
schestowitzWhile mentioning the roots is a nice thing to do, "GNU" and "Linux" don't make a lot of good as marketing terms.Jun 26 13:58
schestowitzHere is an example: we have a user who has heard once about "Linux" in the context of a hard-to-use operating system. Hearing that Ubuntu is based on Linux, he may actually lose interest in that OS.Jun 26 13:58
schestowitzSome developers may also be alienated by hearing "Linux", especially commercial software developers (who may think no one will accept their new proprietary program on Linux OSes).Jun 26 13:58
fewtoh shi- RaegOSJun 26 13:58
schestowitzThe same reason is why Apple never says Mac OS is based on UNIX™ (so much, it's in fact a licensed UNIX™ OS!).Jun 26 13:58
schestowitzshow moreJun 26 13:58
schestowitz32 minutes agoJun 26 13:58
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:58
scienteslolJun 26 13:58
schestowitz"It seems to me that the Ubuntu-Community is on the way to become a kind of gated community like facebook. Time ago i had some issues with Linux Mint, a derivate of Ubuntu built very closely to it. When i mentioned Mint in the Ubuntu-Help-Channel on IRC they just briefly told me "EOS" - end of support."Jun 26 13:58
scientesapple is ALWAYS saying that it is UNIXJun 26 13:58
schestowitz"I personally found out that usage of Linux and GNU names is not that important for end users. I am more concerened about GNU and linux being attacked by MS and Apple these days."Jun 26 13:59
fewtOn the bright side, many people falling into that same scenario aren't associating Ubuntu with Linux - so their terrible Ubuntu experience isn't hurting us.Jun 26 13:59
fewt:DJun 26 13:59
MinceRm$ should respond "oh yeah? well, windows is VMS!"Jun 26 13:59
XFaCEschestowitz: Seems like a lot of "missing the point" is going around latelyJun 26 13:59
scientesesp re supportJun 26 14:00
MinceRwait, ubuntu has support on IRC?Jun 26 14:00
MinceRthat's a well kept secretJun 26 14:00
scientesMinceR, if you install an irc client it says "ubuntu channel"Jun 26 14:00
scientesnd you double click and you are in the support channelJun 26 14:00
schestowitz"Jun 26 14:01
XFaCEscientes: Wehn you go to the Arch website, you find helpJun 26 14:01
schestowitzI agree, that's very weird. I'm not sure mentioning GNU is critical (it's a core component, not the OS family name and is implicitly expected in every conventional Linux), but Linux name for sure should be mentioned.Jun 26 14:01
schestowitzNothing is said even on this page! http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-is-it-freeJun 26 14:01
schestowitzOnly digging much further (here: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian ) one can find Linux, GNU and Debian actually mentioned. Most users won't dig that far. It's a shame Canonical makes such lame PR to hide the fact that Ubuntu is Linux.Jun 26 14:01
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iophkschestowitz: "Here is an example: we have a user who has heard once about "Linux" in the context of a hard-to-use operating system."  — Or it can work the other way.  Users try Ubuntu and realize that Bill was wrong about it being hard to use, then they stop taking Bill's talking points at face value and start exploring FOSS technologies in earnest.  I've seen it happen multiple times.  Jun 26 14:02
fewtLet me spin thatJun 26 14:03
fewtHere is an example: we have a user who has heard once about "Ubuntu" in the context of an unstable operating system."  — Or it can work the other way.  Users try Linux and realize that Bill was wrong about it being hard to use, then they stop taking Bill's talking points at face value and start exploring FOSS technologies in earnest.  I've seen it happen multiple times. Jun 26 14:03
fewtspun, enjoy :)Jun 26 14:04
MinceR:)Jun 26 14:04
XFaCENsapJun 26 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tories looking to scrape lost tax revenue could make a HUGE dent by closing loopholes their rich mates exploit on an industrial scaleJun 26 14:05
XFaCEvJun 26 14:07
XFaCE[14:04] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tories looking to scrape lost tax revenue could make a HUGE dent by closing loopholes their rich mates exploit on an industrial scaleJun 26 14:07
XFaCEmWhat's funny, si that could apply to Canada exactlyJun 26 14:07
XFaCEno rewording requiredJun 26 14:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #CloeSmithMP another shining example of why people have given up on #politics - shady, slimey, evasive, bullshittingJun 26 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Vizio’s Co-Star: $99 #GoogleTV box with OnLive gaming support | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/uCkMz #hardwareJun 26 14:09
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schestowitzahJun 26 14:10
schestowitzConservativesJun 26 14:10
schestowitzlike ObamaJun 26 14:10
schestowitzCloset ConservativeJun 26 14:11
MinceRor just a puppet of conservatives :>Jun 26 14:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Facebook forces all users over to @facebook.com e-mail addresses | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/gRUqj they+apple would be a great marriageJun 26 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Watching #PioneerOne ep. 6. Sitting on the edge of my chair. But srsly, ppl, do something about sound mixing fsckups...Jun 26 14:15
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fewtI checked my FB earlier, it hadn't been changedJun 26 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @nirvanareligion: !ACTA: Karel De Gutch y Marielle Gallo contra la democracia http://t.co/wHz5azXnJun 26 14:20
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fewthad seen some posts from friends who's emails hadJun 26 14:21
fewtI don't think anyone should be surprised considering all of the other privacy they have had to give up to use it.Jun 26 14:21
MinceRindeedJun 26 14:21
MinceRdumbfuckbook forcing changes on users is nothing newJun 26 14:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Securing supercomputer networks (without disrupting 60Gbps data flows) | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/Bfc9Y #security #supercomputersJun 26 14:22
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748537Jun 26 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] KEI letter to USTR regarding #TPP #copyright provisions - http://bit.ly/Qd2MMm excellent, detailed criticismJun 26 14:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rsiddharth: Sam Geeraerts announces #gnewsense 3.0 alpha : http://ur1.ca/9kjq2Jun 26 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Data Snatchers! The Booming Market for Your Online Identity http://goo.gl/KDJ5cJun 26 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Jonnalagadda: outsource vs open source http://ur1.ca/9kkcxJun 26 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Myth Dispensing: The Whole 'Spotify Barely Pays Artists' Story Is Bunk http://goo.gl/dzlnrJun 26 14:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright http://goo.gl/2hQG5Jun 26 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How could G+ possibly be a ghost town with +Wil Wheaton and +George Takei filling my timeline? ;-) and now back to wat... http://b1t.it/bFYAJun 26 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hip Hop Artists Developing #OpenSource Beat Making Software - http://bit.ly/LzHV5S groovy, man...or somethingJun 26 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Clubs protestieren gegen #Gema: Fünf Minuten Saturday Night Stille - http://bit.ly/KZZJcn about time, tooJun 26 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Coming 3-D Printing IP Nightmare - http://bit.ly/LdUK39 oh yes...Jun 26 14:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon !identiverse ... it's a balmy 23.2 °C (27 humidex) in my corner of !Canada today (not too hot to write outside!)Jun 26 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dropbox Bans BitTorrent Startup Boxopus Over Piracy Concerns - http://bit.ly/Mz5tFp what a bunch of corporate wussesJun 26 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright http://goo.gl/2hQG5Jun 26 14:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 14:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 14:53
schestowitz"Jun 26 14:53
schestowitz@Ryuken Ishida: How many people would see that page? I found it only because I knew what I was looking for, and specifically tried to find it. Most won't see it at all.Jun 26 14:53
schestowitzExample of fair and simple front page:Jun 26 14:53
schestowitzhttp://openindiana.org/Jun 26 14:53
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schestowitz> OpenIndiana is a robust enterprise operating system, based on the illumos kernel.Jun 26 14:53
schestowitzNote - illumos is given credit right there where it's supposed to be.Jun 26 14:53
schestowitzCompare it to Canoical: >Fast, secure and stylishly simple, the Ubuntu operating system is used by 20 million people worldwide every day.Jun 26 14:53
schestowitzIt could say:Jun 26 14:53
schestowitz> Fast, secure and stylishly simple, the Ubuntu oper...Jun 26 14:53
schestowitz"Jun 26 14:53
schestowitz"They could actually say "based on the Debian GNU/linux system", and there you go, all credit given in a few words."Jun 26 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it a requirement for an art critic to be a genetically inbred half cousin of Tim Nice-But Dim from #HarryEnfield?Jun 26 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Si bien es probable que puedas evitar eso con el plugin de filtros o algoJun 26 14:54
Omegathey want to get users, not promote free software per seJun 26 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vortex wireless: Terabytes of Wi-Fi is on its way - http://zd.net/KKMsmy ooh, I can't wait #futureJun 26 15:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla announces Firefox for Android http://ur1.ca/9kki0 #Android #FirefoxJun 26 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Opera 12: Not Ready For Prime Time http://ur1.ca/9kkj0 proprietary alsoJun 26 15:05
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formic_they can call it whatever they wantJun 26 15:06
formic_canonical could call it DumbFuckOS if they wantedJun 26 15:07
MinceRbut then they'd have to add facebook integrationJun 26 15:07
formic_lolJun 26 15:08
formic_thanks to unity, ubuntu is just as difference from real linux as androidJun 26 15:08
MinceRperhaps not so much, technicallyJun 26 15:08
formic_real linux being= gnome,kde,lxde,xfce,fluxbox,openbox,etc (except unity which is ubuntu only)Jun 26 15:08
formic_ubuntu has a lot of things ubuntu onlyJun 26 15:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chromebooks Are Gaining Traction in Schools http://ur1.ca/9kkji #linux #chromeosJun 26 15:09
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MinceRafaik they still have GNU userland including glibc, hidden down there somewhere :>Jun 26 15:09
Omegaformic_: that is simply not trueJun 26 15:09
formic_meh, i'd think it would insult GNU to connect themJun 26 15:09
OmegaI mean at least criticise them on factsJun 26 15:09
formic_Omega, Lenin called, go awayJun 26 15:10
Omega?Jun 26 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @1111aether User consent cannot be assumed. i.e. If I go to a scenetap bar,my estimated age will be collected and aggregated before I ...Jun 26 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Microsoft Feeding the #Android Machine? http://ur1.ca/9kig8 "drive more hardware makers into Android's arms."Jun 26 15:10
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schestowitz"Linux needs good PR to improve its adoption. Ubuntu claim they are geared towards that cause, but failing to mention Linux on the front page doesn't fit well with that." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 15:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Such is life in the !Identiverse, @satipera. My on-time will more likely coincide with yours tomorrow :) !tzafJun 26 15:14
schestowitzGoogle does the same thing (ChromeOS and Android), but to remove the stagma from GNU and Linux we should not refrain from naming them where they succeed.Jun 26 15:14
scientesschestowitz, except that android doesn't have any GNUJun 26 15:15
scientesnot sure about ChromeOSJun 26 15:15
scientes(xcept for building it, but that is not shipped with it)Jun 26 15:15
iophkGNU has a good reputation and it would be smart to build on that reputation.  However, very recently there has been a concerted effort to marginalize it.  Jun 26 15:16
scientesChromeOS is going to ship coreboot, which is also GPL (LGPL?)Jun 26 15:16
scientesnah GPLJun 26 15:16
scientesiophk, for end-users, indeedJun 26 15:16
schestowitz"What about all the other projects Ubuntu is based on? Isn't X.org just as important as GNU and Linux? What about all the programming languages, like C, C++, Perl, Python - are they really not important enough to deserve credits? I don't think it would be fair to mention GNU and Linux and maybe Debian, but not all the others."Jun 26 15:17
scientesbut at the same time google gifted binutils-gold to FSF, which is interestingJun 26 15:17
scientesand working on split-stack in gcc, which seems pretty bad-assJun 26 15:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 @patrickniedzielski I actually believe most electronic data about you should be purged after a certain time. You should h ...Jun 26 15:17
scientesschestowitz, lol, you should mentioned that C and C++ are mostly gcc/gnu in GNU/Linux systemdJun 26 15:17
scientes*systemsJun 26 15:18
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748731Jun 26 15:22
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schestowitz"Jun 26 15:22
schestowitzDr. Roy SchestowitzJun 26 15:22
schestowitz#YouTube no longer supports the player that #GNU #Gnash depends on?Jun 26 15:22
schestowitzhttps://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?36723Jun 26 15:22
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748724Jun 26 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Parlamentarian Gallo: #ACTA Dissent 'A Soft Form Of #Terrorism' - http://bit.ly/KKOoeR this was inevitableJun 26 15:24
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schestowitz"GNU and Linux never succeeded on their own. Only together with the whole FLOSS community."Jun 26 15:25
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/webopedia-term-of-the-day-what-is-google-play.htmlJun 26 15:25
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schestowitz"Indirectly through Debian. Mentioning Debian Linux would be good enough."Jun 26 15:27
iophkRMS uses the f-word, that scares some people and gets the Microserfs all bent out of shape.Jun 26 15:28
fewtFreebsd?Jun 26 15:28
schestowitzfingerJun 26 15:29
fewtwhoah you should disable that serviceJun 26 15:29
MinceRlolJun 26 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] REVIEW: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS http://ur1.ca/9kkmw #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 15:30
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scientesI love fingering all over the placeJun 26 15:32
MinceRthat's what she said.Jun 26 15:33
scientesdoesn't have the same effectiveenss it use to have however, not as many people are turned on these days it seemsJun 26 15:33
schestowitzcan't put my finger on it...Jun 26 15:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748641 "I use to tell it many times to many different people. I myself try to keep it that way all the time."Jun 26 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I live by this #quote  #Einstein #simpleJun 26 15:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747848Jun 26 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Galaxy S3 Ubuntu installation possible, if you got the urge for some Linux http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-ubuntu-installation-linux-97316/ making powerful phones actually usableJun 26 15:35
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schestowitz"@CBiX - you're somewhat right. Nothing can make Windows machine usable. Sometimes even Linux can't make it, because the hardware itself is so crappy and closed."Jun 26 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When @RMS uses the word "evil" he gets flak for being "radical"; when Linus gives companies the rectum warning he's hailed as a hero. Weird.Jun 26 15:35
schestowitz"I.e. Linux here would denote the family of contributing projects (GNU, X.org and others), and Debian denotes the primary derivation source for Ubuntu. Again - Canonical can do whatever they want. We are talking about what's more appropriate for Linux benefit in general."Jun 26 15:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 15:37
schestowitz"Now they do it just a little more indirectly though mentioning Ubuntu. Why isn't this good enough?"Jun 26 15:37
schestowitz"GNU is not a "contributor project" to that kernel named Linux, it's a much older project to actually create the whole OS. Now the OS is called by the name of the kernel used... that's also sad."Jun 26 15:37
schestowitzGNU deserves a lot of credit for *kickstarting* the development of a free OS.Jun 26 15:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748618Jun 26 15:39
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #quote #dreamJun 26 15:39
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schestowitz"It's worse than that, ask Linus Torvalds. He is building his dream, which helps millions of people live in software freedom, but that threatens the wealth of some of the world's richest people, so they have hired lots of people to crush his dreams and ours."Jun 26 15:39
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schestowitzany replacement for Dawn as tenant?Jun 26 15:43
fewtWindows is perfectly usable, as long as you don't need things that a UNIX or Linux user takes for granted.  Same with OSX.Jun 26 15:43
schestowitzwhich Windows?Jun 26 15:43
fewtDropping GNU from Linux isn't really sad, GNU is a really bad name.Jun 26 15:43
schestowitzTiles{tm}?Jun 26 15:43
fewt7Jun 26 15:43
fewtnot 8Jun 26 15:43
fewt8 is a messJun 26 15:43
fewtbut it's also not releasedJun 26 15:44
schestowitzGNU is a good nameJun 26 15:44
schestowitzwhat's bad about itJun 26 15:44
schestowitzit's catchy, named like the animal people see in the zoo, just not penguinJun 26 15:44
fewtWell, to be fair GNU isn't so badJun 26 15:44
fewtit's GNU/Linux that is bad IMHOJun 26 15:44
schestowitzyeahJun 26 15:44
schestowitzGNU-Linux may sound betterJun 26 15:45
schestowitzlike when companies mergeJun 26 15:45
schestowitzSony-Ericsson and the likeJun 26 15:45
fewtor a new name, like Ubuntu that is made up of both but uses neither in the name?Jun 26 15:45
fewtI kiddJun 26 15:45
fewtI think Linux is a fine name for a product, it's close to UNIX so it is familiar, but different enough that it isn't confused.Jun 26 15:45
fewtbut then I'm the guy that created the name "Fuduntu"Jun 26 15:46
fewtbut that name is intended to be zanyJun 26 15:46
schestowitz"Because Ubuntu is too narrow for the definition of the Linux world. Linux as a name is broad enough, so all other Distros won't feel offended. And to address the previous comments - GNU is older, but the result came out to be called Linux. GNU never came out with real functional examples of OS besides Linux (i.e. Hurd is not something practically usable). So, Linux does mean GNU+Linux+X.org+Wayland+KDE+Gnome and the rest. It's not the Jun 26 15:46
schestowitzpoint of what was earlier. It's the collective name. Calling these "Ubuntu" - not right. Calling these "GNU""Jun 26 15:46
schestowitzfewt: like Bodhi?Jun 26 15:47
fewtBodhi isn't a bad nameJun 26 15:47
fewtHonestly I don't have any problem with the name UbuntuJun 26 15:47
fewtjust the brandJun 26 15:47
fewt:DJun 26 15:47
fewtI don't like that it hides being a Linux distributionJun 26 15:48
fewtit could even say GNU/Apache/GPL/everything else here+Linux kernel distributionJun 26 15:48
fewtbut whateverJun 26 15:48
fewt:DJun 26 15:48
DaemonFChttp://www.garylsnyder.com/my_weblog/2012/06/colberts-take-on-mourdock.htmlJun 26 15:50
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DaemonFCThe Supreme Court has done what nobody expected today. It announced that Antonin Scalia is just four raccoons in a black garbage bag...Jun 26 15:51
DaemonFCheheJun 26 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 71 dents!Jun 26 15:52
schestowitz"But where would GNU be without all those pioneers in computer science? Shouldn't we give credits to them, too?"Jun 26 15:53
schestowitz"One can say, what about Android? I'd say, Android while using the Linux kernel doesn't let itself to be called Linux easily. Why? I think because it was set too much apart from the rest of the Linux world by design."Jun 26 15:53
schestowitz"One can say, what about Android? I'd say, Android while using the Linux kernel doesn't let itself to be called Linux easily. Why? I think because it was set too much apart from the rest of the Linux world by design. If that's where Ubuntu is heading - it's unfortunate. I hope not."Jun 26 15:54
schestowitz"It's a question of the right measure and presentability. Mentioning every contributor on the front page isn't feasible. Using too narrow of a term - isn't fair enough. That's why I said mentioning Debian as a base, and Linux as a kernel could be good enough. My subjective take on this of course."Jun 26 15:54
schestowitzOne can say, what about Android? I'd say, Android while using the Linux kernel doesn't let itself to be called Linux easily. Why? I think because it was set too much apart from the rest of the Linux world by design. If that's where Ubuntu is heading - it's unfortunate. I hope not.Jun 26 15:54
fewtI agree with thatJun 26 15:55
fewtmentioning debian + the Linux kernel would be good enough.Jun 26 15:55
schestowitz"With smart IDs, everyone will be a little German." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748485Jun 26 15:55
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fewtAndroid is a different animalJun 26 15:55
schestowitzfewt: but they don'tJun 26 15:55
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fewtI knowJun 26 15:55
fewtI've complained about that alsoJun 26 15:55
schestowitzYes, android is differentJun 26 15:55
fewtin here I thinkJun 26 15:55
fewt:DJun 26 15:55
schestowitzAndroid's codebase is vastJun 26 15:55
schestowitzthe apps are separateJun 26 15:55
schestowitzand mostly proprietaryJun 26 15:55
fewtwhoah time to drive home. later!Jun 26 15:56
fewt+1 your last comments btwJun 26 15:56
DaemonFCwhat's funny is that Google allows apps for sale in its own store that remove Google ads from other appsJun 26 15:57
schestowitz"Jun 26 15:57
schestowitz@Shmerl, the GNU Project might not have created a complete OS by itself, but it was the kickstarter, as Roy put it, and I don't think there would have been any "linux" without GNU.Jun 26 15:57
schestowitzPeople have a tendency to oversimplify the role of GNU as "some utilities", but it's sooooo much more than that.Jun 26 15:57
schestowitz"Jun 26 15:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 15:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 15:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when is a u-turn not a u-turn? when a politician from that party is being asked about it #theyalldoit #voterapathyJun 26 15:57
schestowitzWithout GNU, Linux would never have taken off. Without Linux, GNU would have had time/ambition to finish HURD.Jun 26 15:58
formic_Never say neverJun 26 15:58
schestowitzhehJun 26 15:58
formic_Without GNU you'd be running FreeBSD and have no driversJun 26 15:59
formic_lolJun 26 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Internet piracy appeal fee challenged by Consumer Focus http://goo.gl/e8Qo8 another front in the warJun 26 15:59
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formic_a lot of shit would be differentJun 26 16:00
formic_no wikipediaJun 26 16:00
formic_no canonicalJun 26 16:00
formic_no redhat :(Jun 26 16:00
schestowitzno wikipedia?Jun 26 16:00
iophkWhen challenged at the end of his talk at Aalto, Linus Torvalds strongly defended his choice of GPL for the kernel.  It made the thing it has become possible.Jun 26 16:00
schestowitz"They complemented each other. But as I said, the result didn't came out to be called GNU by the masses, but Linux. Either live with it, or write GNU/Linux everywhere, which I consider pointless."Jun 26 16:01
formic_The decision on name falls with the distro creatorJun 26 16:01
MinceRthey'll still be criticized for it if they screw upJun 26 16:02
formic_criticize all you wantJun 26 16:02
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RaccoonJun 26 16:03
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formic_GOD/MincerJun 26 16:03
DaemonFCthey eat whatever they can get, including ripping peoples trash open and scattering it all over the streetJun 26 16:03
formic_considering GOD played a part in your creation, thats your new nameJun 26 16:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] More evidence of a broken patent system: https://eff.org/r.5adS. Join us in making it better at http://ur1.ca/9jk8n. #patentfailJun 26 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gnome 352 screen casting review :) http://ur1.ca/9kksw #gnome #gnu #linuxJun 26 16:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] GNOME and input method integration http://ur1.ca/9kktjJun 26 16:04
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Gnome 352 screen casting review :)  |  woGue .::. Size~: 36.58 KBJun 26 16:04
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DaemonFCformic_: Citation NeededJun 26 16:04
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schestowitzformic_: but there's,no GodJun 26 16:04
MinceRformic_: what he said.Jun 26 16:04
MinceRthough "god" as a title is acceptable to me.Jun 26 16:04
schestowitz!google richard stallman russia today no godJun 26 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Stallman: Facebook IS Mass Surveillance — RT | http://www.rt.com/news/richard-stallman-free-software-875/Jun 26 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Stallman: CISPA 'nearly abolishes' the right not to be unreasonably ... | http://www.rt.com/news/stallman-cispa-human-rights-abuse-174/comments/Jun 26 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Liberating software comments — RT Programs Spotlight | http://rt.com/programs/spotlight/liberating-software-richard-stallman/comments/Jun 26 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Chinese company may take iPad core out of Apple — RT Comments | http://www.rt.com/news/apple-china-ipad-legal-377/comments/Jun 26 16:05
MinceRso you can call me "god" if you wish.Jun 26 16:05
DaemonFChey, wait a minute!Jun 26 16:05
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DaemonFCI'm the one that created raccoons!Jun 26 16:05
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DaemonFCand....possumsJun 26 16:05
schestowitzdog is annagram of godJun 26 16:05
MinceRDaemonFC: citation needed.Jun 26 16:05
schestowitzpoor dogs..Jun 26 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Defects at Grand Designs presenter Kevin McCloud's homes http://goo.gl/aLPrQ it has a community alright, of bitter home ownersJun 26 16:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Patent trolls' cost other US bodies $29bn last year, says study http://goo.gl/Xuu6BJun 26 16:05
MinceRschestowitz: poor gods.Jun 26 16:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Defects at Grand Designs presenter Kevin McCloud's homes .::. Size~: 82.82 KBJun 26 16:05
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DaemonFCMinceR: I have Original ResearchJun 26 16:05
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formic_Ok GOD/MincerJun 26 16:06
DaemonFCthat's good enough for the other religionsJun 26 16:06
MinceRschestowitz: and the dyslexic agnostic wonders if there's a dog.Jun 26 16:06
schestowitzMinceR: he giveth and takethJun 26 16:06
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schestowitz!google blankfein god's workJun 26 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Goldman Sachs Blankfein on Banking: 'Doing God's Work ... | http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2009/11/09/goldman-sachs-blankfein-on-banking-doing-gods-work/Jun 26 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Lloyd Blankfein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_BlankfeinJun 26 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Blankfein Says He's Just Doing 'God's Work' - NYTimes.com | http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/goldman-chief-says-he-is-just-doing-gods-work/Jun 26 16:06
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Lloyd Blankfein Says He Is Doing "God's Work" - Business Insider | http://articles.businessinsider.com/2009-11-09/wall_street/30054567_1_blankfein-goldman-sachs-year-end-bonusesJun 26 16:06
schestowitzGod complexJun 26 16:06
MinceRformic_: the slash is incorrect in this case.Jun 26 16:06
schestowitzGod means many thingsJun 26 16:06
schestowitzIn India isn't it like some half elephant?Jun 26 16:07
schestowitzTo me, God is half upper half pig, bottom part fish, and human rectumJun 26 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] has Nathan Myhrvold even met "an inventor"? http://goo.gl/Xuu6B his company sure as shit don't deal in "inventions" #patenttrollJun 26 16:07
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MinceRman-bear-pigJun 26 16:07
DaemonFCHRAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!Jun 26 16:07
schestowitzYuleJun 26 16:07
DaemonFCHRAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!Jun 26 16:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] News Corp 'warned Lib Dems over BSkyB bid' http://goo.gl/eo292 sounds about rightJun 26 16:09
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schestowitz"Jun 26 16:09
schestowitzGNU does credit earlier work, Florian, but much of it is useless to Ubuntu because it is not free software.Jun 26 16:09
schestowitzI like how the Debian people give credit where credit is due, http://www.debian.org/intro/aboutJun 26 16:09
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schestowitz"Jun 26 16:09
schestowitz"But what's the reason of choosing this two projects? What sets them apart from all the others?"Jun 26 16:09
schestowitz"@Shmerl, the "masses" don't define what's fair or correct. And yes, I write GNU/linux everywhere, because I consider ir fair, and it's my effort to type it. Well, actually, sometimes I just type "GNU", since it's shorter, simpler, and makes more sense to me."Jun 26 16:09
schestowitz"Florian: I think I explained it above. It's the common meaning of the name. Name Linux denotes a whole set of components and aspects when used without context. Name Ubuntu is much narrower. As simple as that."Jun 26 16:09
schestowitz"@Shmerl, the "masses" don't define what's fair or correct. May be not, but the front page address the masses if you didn't notice."Jun 26 16:11
formic_God means many things except for anything that isn't Jesus, our saviourJun 26 16:15
Omegaubuntu is a sellout, they forgot the big picture now only focus on self-preservationJun 26 16:15
formic_Omega - czary!Jun 26 16:15
Omegathey do not try to tell people why free software is importantJun 26 16:15
schestowitzjust seen https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748882Jun 26 16:16
TechrightsBot-tr@whirli@joindiaspora.com: Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell on Q&A (10-4-2012 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1QHO_AVZA&html5=True I gave the cardinal a fair chance but around the 11th minute I just facepalmed so hard that I fell of my chair. #atheism #christianity #catholicism #dawkins #religionJun 26 16:16
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MinceRformic_: you need to stuff a few more negations there :>Jun 26 16:16
formic_L Ron Shuttleworth doesnt want to pay any more billsJun 26 16:16
MinceRlolJun 26 16:16
schestowitz"May be not, but the front page address the masses if you didn't notice. And using GNU/Linux out of principle may be fair, but I can't say that using Linux alone is unfair. GNU is implicitly understood. And GNU/Linux is just impractical as a name, sorry." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 16:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 16:18
schestowitz"(and I wasn't talking about ubuntu's frontpage, btw)"Jun 26 16:18
schestowitz"GNU is very practical as a name, it's shorter."Jun 26 16:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] TED talk on !Atheism 2.0 - interesting! bit.ly/OrVA23Jun 26 16:20
schestowitz"But misleading, when talking to people. People will understand when you'll tell them about Linux. They'll have no clue when you'll tell them about GNU. No point to deny it."Jun 26 16:21
gnufreexschestowitz pingJun 26 16:22
schestowitzheyJun 26 16:23
Omegabut I think other projects are doing the same thingJun 26 16:23
Omegait shouldn't be about plugging your nameJun 26 16:23
Omegabut about the movementJun 26 16:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: You notice Blue Systems has Skype in the default Netrunner install now?Jun 26 16:23
DaemonFCthey're the sponsors of Kubuntu nowJun 26 16:23
Omegathat they don't say linux isn't a big deal, but that they forgot the free software movement is the problemJun 26 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PS3 Media Server 1.54.0 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9kkwl #gnu #linuxJun 26 16:24
gnufreexschestowitz: I asked you today about Sony Ericson, Alcatel and Huawei.Jun 26 16:24
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gnufreexschestowitz: About android phones of those companiesJun 26 16:24
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:24
schestowitzI think this usage of "Linux" is just wrong, and GNU/Linux isn't much better.Jun 26 16:24
schestowitzOf course both projects are important, but I don't think they are important enough to be used as the name for the whole ecosystem they are a part of.Jun 26 16:24
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:24
gnufreexDo you know if they are taxed schestowitzJun 26 16:24
schestowitzHuawei spoke to the mafia-gangsters, but no deal signedJun 26 16:24
schestowitzSony is, well.. SonyJun 26 16:25
schestowitzAlcatel uses Red Hat and manned up to the mafia... even sued it... so I bought an Alcatel hponeJun 26 16:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 16:25
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:25
schestowitzOr just use the distribution's name.Jun 26 16:26
schestowitz"Linux people" complain that Ubuntu no longer refernces "linux" on their site... ok, and "linux people" don't reference GNU either. You reap what you sow.Jun 26 16:26
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:26
gnufreexschestowitz: ThanksJun 26 16:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 16:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 16:27
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:27
schestowitzNobody will learn if no one starts teaching. The term "Linux" to refer to a complete system is incorrect, however popular. GNU/linux is too long? ok, GNU is shorter.Jun 26 16:27
schestowitzThe term "Linux" does not imply GNU (which you said), otherwise people would understand you if you said "GNU".Jun 26 16:27
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Winning BIG on ACTA and Beyond! http://ur1.ca/9ki0d #acta #euJun 26 16:30
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MinceRoh no, it's longer than 5 characters, that exceeds my attention sp...oooh, shiny!Jun 26 16:31
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyNzIJun 26 16:32
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DaemonFCtrollololololJun 26 16:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Qualcomm debuts Snapdragon SDK for developers http://ur1.ca/9kkyi #android #linuxJun 26 16:32
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schestowitz"You all talk in theory. I talk in practice. Linux is used for that, and will be used. That's it." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 16:34
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 16:34
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Spyware-targets-AutoCAD-files-1625972.htmlJun 26 16:34
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MinceRis that even an argument?Jun 26 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If citizens can demand #facebook provides all the data it collects on self, how come can't be done with #NSA (even tracks your music now)?Jun 26 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Fantastic defence of same-sex marriage. And by a politician! bit.ly/OrZVlIJun 26 16:35
schestowitzMinceR: for some..Jun 26 16:36
MinceRit's even weaker than the trillion flies argumentJun 26 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #nsa knows more about citizens of the world than those citizens know about themselves if a gigabyte a day is collected from each (cheap)Jun 26 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The #EU Has Already Broken Up… They Just Haven’t Formalized Yet | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/M5niO #Schengen #collapseJun 26 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Activists are rallying against #TPP's secret negotiations to regulate the Internet. Join them next week in San Diego: http://stoptpp.orgJun 26 16:39
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 16:39
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:39
schestowitzThe people who didn't want to call the system "GNU" will cry when the people, the masses no longer refer to the system as "Linux".Jun 26 16:39
schestowitzI've already seen people who think there is Ubuntu and "variations", "other Ubuntu distributions". Give it time.Jun 26 16:39
schestowitz"Jun 26 16:39
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Jun 26 16:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "apps on the Ubuntu platform" http://ur1.ca/9kl0t "Linux" not mentionedJun 26 16:40
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94925512Jun 26 16:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 10:26:24 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @harishpillay Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 16:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Evening !Identiverse and yesterday I was on #Crivins with one of the !Mageia founders who also contributes to #Pulseaudio upstream.Jun 26 16:42
gnufreexschestowitz which Alcatel phone you bought ?Jun 26 16:44
DaemonFCas much of your browsing as possible should be done over SSLJun 26 16:44
DaemonFCif you have Flash, block it by defaultJun 26 16:44
DaemonFCuse Adblock Lite and all of the adblock, tracking, and annoyances listsJun 26 16:45
DaemonFChere: https://secure.fanboy.co.nz/Jun 26 16:45
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DaemonFCturn on the Do Not Track preference in the browser (some sites are at least claiming to honor it)Jun 26 16:46
DaemonFCmake the default cookie policy "expire when I close Firefox", you can override this on a per-site basis (I do this to keep my preferences for Startpage and DuckDuckGo)Jun 26 16:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: why did #phoronix take this blog posthttp://ppenz.blogspot.nl/2012/06/dolphin-21.html and thurn it into an insulting headline? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyNzI #kde still ahead of the restJun 26 16:47
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DaemonFCinstall the Better Privacy Mozilla add-on, and set it to delete all the Flash LSOs when you start or close Firefox, and after 2 hours of one not being accessedJun 26 16:47
DaemonFCinstall HTTPS Everywhere, I use the 3.0 development branch right nowJun 26 16:48
schestowitz"If it'll happen - they'll cry or not cry. Let them decide. So far it's not happening. The question in this thread is in particular about whether Ubuntu's page is appropriate (as of now) or not."Jun 26 16:48
schestowitz"Social factors like naming develop often disregarding what you might consider better."Jun 26 16:48
DaemonFCif I run into problems, I file a bug report and disable the particular ruleJun 26 16:48
DaemonFCnot a big issueJun 26 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] why did #phoronix take this blog post http://ur1.ca/9kl1t &turn it into insulting headline? http://ur1.ca/9kl1m #kde still aheadJun 26 16:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ravenman If you cannot install "Democracy", please remove "System" !usa !canada !finland !czech !russia !nederland !roffa !love !hat ...Jun 26 16:49
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DaemonFCfiling bug reports on bad rule sets keeps those rule sets from making their way into a stable releaseJun 26 16:49
DaemonFCso the stable branch becomes better for non-technical users that just want to install the stable release and forget about itJun 26 16:49
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'd totally ditch Kubuntu if Debian was ever semi-current with KDEJun 26 16:50
DaemonFCI'm pondering Debian 7 with KDE when they import 4.8.4Jun 26 16:50
DaemonFCit seems to be stable/functionalJun 26 16:50
DaemonFCperformance is goodJun 26 16:50
DaemonFCmight be a good place to dig in for a whileJun 26 16:51
DaemonFCDebian will keep it patched for their life cycleJun 26 16:51
schestowitz"actually, the word "Linux" is mentioned at ubuntu.com/devices and ubuntu.com/community"Jun 26 16:51
DaemonFCuntil the 4.8 series there were still a few outstanding issues that had yet to be dealt with from the 4.x seriesJun 26 16:52
DaemonFCpretty much all the ones I cared about were kwin performance problems / leaks / high CPU usageJun 26 16:52
DaemonFCthere were some work arounds, like disabling the blur and shadow effects, but I like those effects :(Jun 26 16:52
DaemonFCJesus H Christ on Friday!Jun 26 16:55
DaemonFCit's going to be 102 on Thursday!Jun 26 16:55
*DaemonFC installed a second window air conditioner this year but hasn't used that one much yetJun 26 16:56
DaemonFCit's mostly sitting there waiting for days like this ThursdayJun 26 16:56
DaemonFCthose will be pretty common in July/AugustJun 26 16:56
schestowitzhehJun 26 16:56
schestowitzpaid the credit card debt yetJun 26 16:56
schestowitzTV+A/C?Jun 26 16:56
DaemonFCschestowitz: Yes, and all this last couple months I've been using it for my regular bills and paying it all back on timeJun 26 16:57
DaemonFCif I do that I get between 1.5-5% cashback rebates with no interestJun 26 16:57
DaemonFCso they end up paying me to use the cardJun 26 16:57
DaemonFCthat's the only card I didn't cut upJun 26 16:57
DaemonFCno reason to keep cards around if they're not going to give me any incentives for using them and the only thing they do give me is a liability (being that they MAY accrue interest eventually)Jun 26 16:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: Comcast gave me free limited basic cable for as long as I have my cable internetJun 26 16:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @zoowar Minors can not give consent. Many web sites ignore this fact.Jun 26 16:59
formic_DaemonFC: I thought gays liked 'hot stuff'Jun 26 16:59
DaemonFCblehJun 26 16:59
*DaemonFC has a sunburnJun 26 16:59
formic_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIwKaci3MIJun 26 17:00
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DaemonFCI was out at an auction all day on SundayJun 26 17:00
DaemonFCI went there with Dave (mom's husband), that way we could just split the cost to register as biddersJun 26 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Great project from @hoofnagle: researchers seek hard data about online tracking through new Web #Privacy Census https://eff.org/r.a8dJJun 26 17:00
DaemonFCand I can turn around and pay him for anything I wantedJun 26 17:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Web Privacy Census shows tracking pervasive - SFGate .::. Size~: 88.47 KBJun 26 17:00
DaemonFCit's like $10 up front to register as a bidder, so if you go there as a group you can just use one person as a bidder and bid through them by proxyJun 26 17:01
DaemonFC:PJun 26 17:01
DaemonFCwe ended up getting a lot of good dealsJun 26 17:02
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM3nvATF-U8&w=630&h=385 Jun 26 17:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jeff Daniels tells why America isn't the greatest country in the world.       - YouTube .::. Size~: 134.28 KBJun 26 17:02
schestowitzyou're eaten by madame harmon's generationJun 26 17:02
schestowitzand the corporationsJun 26 17:02
DaemonFCa vacuum cleaner that is about $180 new, some woman (you know it was a woman because no man would do this!) jammed it up and couldn't figure out how to fix itJun 26 17:02
DaemonFCso we got it for $15, cleaned it out, put a new belt and filters on itJun 26 17:03
DaemonFCworks fine Jun 26 17:03
DaemonFCwe got a mantis tiller, brand new the same model is like $220Jun 26 17:03
DaemonFCwe got it for $50Jun 26 17:03
schestowitzfelta knows how to fix stuffJun 26 17:03
DaemonFCit had a gas leak but that part ended up being like $10Jun 26 17:03
schestowitzin the US, people just go to the store and buy "more stuff"Jun 26 17:03
schestowitzOn to the next "shopping experience"Jun 26 17:04
DaemonFCschestowitz: and.......Jun 26 17:04
DaemonFCthat's good for meJun 26 17:04
DaemonFCbecause I can buy this stuff dirt cheap at auctionJun 26 17:04
DaemonFCfix it up for a few bucksJun 26 17:04
DaemonFCand I get a $220 garden tiller for $60Jun 26 17:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: who is "we"?Jun 26 17:04
schestowitzJabba and Ryan?Jun 26 17:04
schestowitzauctioned as broken?Jun 26 17:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: I got a big table I still need to put togetherJun 26 17:05
DaemonFCI plan to replace my TV stand and computer desk in here with itJun 26 17:05
MinceR"Ending is better than mending. The more stitches, the less riches."Jun 26 17:05
DaemonFCit's huge, nothing wrong with it eitherJun 26 17:05
DaemonFC$10Jun 26 17:05
DaemonFCthat's how I got the MSNTV thingJun 26 17:05
DaemonFCthe table came with everything that was on top of itJun 26 17:05
DaemonFC:PJun 26 17:05
schestowitzmany people go bankruptJun 26 17:06
schestowitzlike DawnJun 26 17:06
schestowitzThey'll sell objects on the cheapJun 26 17:06
schestowitz"everything must go"Jun 26 17:06
DaemonFCI was mostly interested in the MSNTV thing because it was basically freeJun 26 17:06
schestowitzsaturation os stuffJun 26 17:06
schestowitzrepairs on the riseJun 26 17:06
schestowitzlike in USSRJun 26 17:06
DaemonFCand I might be able to hack it to run embedded Linux or somethingJun 26 17:06
DaemonFCit has a decent little MIPS processor in itJun 26 17:06
DaemonFCnot much RAM thoughJun 26 17:06
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FourHorsemenoftheInfocalypse https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747400Jun 26 17:07
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DaemonFCit would be sufficient as long as I didn't launch an X serverJun 26 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Crony capitalism loves terrorism and child porn. It uses those to ban private networking, giving privatised Internet franchises to corrupt gov. mates, who in turn enable the upper class spy on and upon demand harass the people down below (e.g. NSA chokepoints).Jun 26 17:07
schestowitzurl gone awryJun 26 17:07
DaemonFCschestowitz: MIPS is a reallt nice architecture Jun 26 17:08
DaemonFCthis would be my second MIPS systemJun 26 17:08
DaemonFCmy other one is an SGI Octane Jun 26 17:08
DaemonFCI got that at an auction too, came with IRIX install CDs and everythingJun 26 17:08
schestowitzRoad Runner had MIPSJun 26 17:09
DaemonFCI sent off to SGI with the serial number from that system and shipping fees and they sent me the latest IRIX discsJun 26 17:09
DaemonFCthey're pretty coolJun 26 17:09
DaemonFCtoo bad they're in the shape they're inJun 26 17:09
DaemonFCI'm considering buying the same GPU I already have just to get the updated model that uses less power and has passive coolingJun 26 17:10
schestowitzwhat would happen to the old GPU?Jun 26 17:10
DaemonFCmy main complaint remaining with open source radeon is not that the performance is bad (If you're using Linux 3.4/3.5 and Mesa from git and X.org Server 1.12, and the radeon ddx from git, it's really decent lately)Jun 26 17:11
DaemonFCit's that it has like, no fan controlJun 26 17:11
DaemonFCso my computer sounds like Marine One taking offJun 26 17:11
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 17:11
DaemonFCCatalyst also has dynamic clock speed settingJun 26 17:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #Crivins Special: http://ur1.ca/9kl4s Colin, myself, @thistleweb, @kevie, & @aparanoidshell Also about #Pulseaudio.Jun 26 17:12
DaemonFCso there's like a 10 watt difference on average between what my system consumes between proprietary and open source radeon driversJun 26 17:12
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DaemonFCI know that's not huge, but it is measurable and after you have the system on for 8-10 hours a day every day that year, it will be a dent on your power bill tooJun 26 17:13
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DaemonFCone of the things I noticed when I switched from my 17" CRT to my 24" LCD is that my power bill went down a couple dollars a monthJun 26 17:14
DaemonFCthose old CRT monitors are about the worst PC component on power efficiency that are still widely usedJun 26 17:14
DaemonFCI went from about 100 watts with the 17" CRT to about 35 with the 24" LCDJun 26 17:15
*DaemonFC thinks that there should be a one watt on standby cap, in law, on every single deviceJun 26 17:16
DaemonFCsome of these devices use a constant 4-5 watts in standbyJun 26 17:17
DaemonFCcable boxes with a DVR in them use the same amount of power on or "off", give or take a wattJun 26 17:17
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-concerns-over-Firefox-s-new-tab-thumbnail-feature-1625761.htmlJun 26 17:23
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DaemonFCyeah, the thought crossed my mindJun 26 17:23
DaemonFCnevermind the fact that it is a huge privacy issueJun 26 17:23
DaemonFCanyone looking over your shoulder can see all the sites you've been to latelyJun 26 17:24
schestowitz[22:13] <DaemonFC> I know that's not huge, but it is measurable and after you have the system on for 8-10 hours a day every day that year, it will be a dent on your power bill tooJun 26 17:24
schestowitzhardltJun 26 17:24
schestowitzthe AC takes moreJun 26 17:24
schestowitzPCs don't take up much energy anymoreJun 26 17:24
schestowitzrelative to their benefitJun 26 17:25
DaemonFChaving the fan at 100% could cause unnecessary wearJun 26 17:25
DaemonFCit definitely causes more noiseJun 26 17:25
DaemonFCmy PC is pretty quiet with CatalystJun 26 17:26
DaemonFChttp://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6348/image1ex.pngJun 26 17:28
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DaemonFCunfiltered Huntington tap water after sitting for a couple daysJun 26 17:28
MinceRughJun 26 17:28
DaemonFCthe resolution isn't good enough to see chunks of stuff floating in itJun 26 17:28
DaemonFCbut they're thereJun 26 17:28
MinceRmight want to use a filter or mineral water :>Jun 26 17:28
DaemonFCyeah, I use a Filtrete pitcher nowJun 26 17:29
DaemonFCcarbon filteringJun 26 17:29
DaemonFCtastes better than "purified" bottled waterJun 26 17:29
MinceRmaybe i should try a water filter, i bring home a lot of bottled mineral water nowadaysJun 26 17:29
DaemonFChttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4728/image3sbw.pngJun 26 17:30
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DaemonFCsame unfiltered waterJun 26 17:30
DaemonFCnotice that you can see some of the larger chunksJun 26 17:30
MinceRtoo blurryJun 26 17:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Patrick McGoohan ("Number Six") about "The Prisoner" and rebelling: bit.ly/MnKs47 well worth a watch. Along with "The Prisoner", of courseJun 26 17:32
DaemonFChttp://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5511/image4sz.pngJun 26 17:32
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DaemonFCMinceR: Left is unfilteredJun 26 17:33
DaemonFCRight is filteredJun 26 17:33
MinceR:)Jun 26 17:33
DaemonFCwhich would you rather drink? :)Jun 26 17:33
MinceRand how well did the filter work on the chlorine taste/smell?Jun 26 17:33
MinceR(if any)Jun 26 17:33
DaemonFCcan't taste itJun 26 17:33
DaemonFCremoved all the sediment tooJun 26 17:34
MinceRcould you taste it in the unfiltered water?Jun 26 17:34
DaemonFCOH YEAHJun 26 17:34
MinceR:)Jun 26 17:34
DaemonFClike drinking out of a swimming poolJun 26 17:34
DaemonFCVerdict: A simple sediment/active carbon filter improved the quality of your drinking water many times overJun 26 17:35
DaemonFC*improvesJun 26 17:35
DaemonFCthe obvious alarming fact is that the US EPA and Indiana Department of Environmental Management says the water on the left is perfectly drinkableJun 26 17:36
DaemonFCeven though after it has sat for about a day, the chlorine smell is gone, now it smells like swamp water insteadJun 26 17:36
DaemonFCthe filtered water has no smell at allJun 26 17:37
DaemonFCthe manufacturer says to replace the filter after you run 100 gallons through itJun 26 17:37
DaemonFCor three monthsJun 26 17:37
DaemonFCif you live in Huntington, Indiana, I'd probably divide that figure in halfJun 26 17:38
DaemonFCour water is some nasty nasty shit, and the price keeps going upJun 26 17:38
DaemonFCwater from the Louisiana Bayou probably tastes betterJun 26 17:38
DaemonFCB-)Jun 26 17:38
DaemonFCeven with the flavor enhancing BP tar ballsJun 26 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] We reprappers and makers proudly put the Manus back in manufacturing. Good night.Jun 26 17:39
DaemonFCMinceR: These states are not worried about the impact the BP disaster had on the quality of their drinking waterJun 26 17:39
MinceRhttp://www.odoripark.com/comics/2012-06-25-punimpressed.gifJun 26 17:40
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DaemonFCthey're going after BP for millions of dollars, to use on advertising, to convince tourists it's safe to come backJun 26 17:40
DaemonFCif it really was safe to come back, they wouldn't need a $300 million dollar propaganda campaignJun 26 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] testJun 26 17:40
DaemonFCI feel sorry for the people that live there while the states and the federal government are blowing smoke up their assesJun 26 17:41
DaemonFCand that fat fuck, Haley Barbour Jun 26 17:42
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haley_BarbourJun 26 17:42
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DaemonFCtelling people that the tarballs were nothing to worry aboutJun 26 17:42
DaemonFCand then pardoning hundreds of rapists and child molesters right before leaving officeJun 26 17:42
DaemonFCit's usually the white collar business criminals that get executive pardons in the United States thoughJun 26 17:44
DaemonFCso it's nice to see some child molesters thrown in to keep things fair I guess :)Jun 26 17:44
DaemonFCMinceR: Fair and Balanced!Jun 26 17:44
DaemonFCyou know what? I think executive pardons should not be allowed.Jun 26 17:45
DaemonFCThe abuse to legitimate pardon ratio is probably 99 to 1Jun 26 17:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Ignore Any Rejection of #ACTA - Slashdot http://goo.gl/YkMED ah these demo.crats!!!Jun 26 17:45
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DaemonFCand every single person they pardon got the sentence they got from a judge and juryJun 26 17:46
DaemonFCthe executive pardon is just effective dictatorshipJun 26 17:46
DaemonFCone asshole on his way out of office can undo hundreds of legitimate convictions Jun 26 17:46
*DaemonFC thinks the constitutions (federal and state) should be amended, to remove the executive pardon, and instead give the executive (president or state governor) the ability to order a retrial if he feels the person was wrongly convictedJun 26 17:49
DaemonFCand during this retrial, the person stays in prisonJun 26 17:49
DaemonFCyou know if they're convicted a second time by a different judge and jury, they're probably exactly where they need to be :)Jun 26 17:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] CyanogenMod 9.0-rc1 available http://ur1.ca/9kle5Jun 26 17:54
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DaemonFCoh dammit, I said "he", how presumptuousJun 26 17:54
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm at least 90% sure Jan Brewer is anatomically femaleJun 26 17:54
MinceR"he" can be interpreted as gender-neutralJun 26 17:55
DaemonFCI'm not entirely sure she was born that way thoughJun 26 17:55
DaemonFCat least Arizona's governor matches the landscape of the stateJun 26 17:55
DaemonFCbrown, shriveled up, and deadJun 26 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] EU Parlamentarian Gallo: #ACTA Dissent 'A Soft Form Of #Terrorism' http://goo.gl/ILWl2Jun 26 17:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Miami Heat Owner Now Threatening To Separately Sue The Lawyer Defending Blogger Who Linked To Unflattering Image http://goo.gl/3e4z1Jun 26 17:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Want To Be A 'Signed' Musician? Any And All Records Will Take You http://goo.gl/o78ifJun 26 17:59
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DaemonFClooks like my ballot is going to be Obama for President, Rupert Boneham for Indiana governor (I mean, fucking tie dye! How cool is that?) :), and Joe Donnelly for SenatorJun 26 17:59
DaemonFCnot entirely thrilled about most of the votes I'm going to cast, but Boneham is just awesome Jun 26 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Political commentary these days is hilariously chiralious.Jun 26 18:00
DaemonFCI don't think it really matters at all whether Mike Pence or John Gregg get elected to be the next Indiana governor, they're both far right wing nutjobsJun 26 18:01
DaemonFChttp://www.greggforgovernor.com/docs/GFG-Hoosier-Handshake-5.16.12.pdfJun 26 18:02
DaemonFCTHIS is the DemocratJun 26 18:02
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DaemonFC"Eliminate the corporate income tax "Jun 26 18:02
DaemonFCand he wants to pay for it by increasing the sales tax burden on citizensJun 26 18:03
DaemonFChe figures that if he can just hike the tax burden on an already overtaxed population, by another $350 million a year, that we might be able to pirate a few factories from other statesJun 26 18:04
DaemonFCat least until we ask them to pay taxes again and they move to another stateJun 26 18:04
DaemonFCthis is not better than what the Republican wants to doJun 26 18:05
DaemonFCin fact, it's a fair bit worseJun 26 18:05
DaemonFCunder Gregg's plan, every single person in Indiana would pay an average of $60 more in taxes every year to cover the hole left by not taxing companies like WalmartJun 26 18:06
DaemonFCand that's assuming that you have all 6 million or so of us paying an even amount of taxes, which won't happenJun 26 18:07
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DaemonFCsome people will only pay a few more dollars a year, some will pay $300 a year more to the stateJun 26 18:07
MinceRmaybe the dems' strategy for winning elections in indiana was to turn into republicans :>Jun 26 18:07
MinceRgn gnufreex Jun 26 18:07
DaemonFChe doesn't want to cut spending, he just wants to cut the corporate tax rate to zero and have me pick up Walmart's tax obligation for themJun 26 18:08
DaemonFCfuck himJun 26 18:08
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DaemonFCwe don't need his shitJun 26 18:08
DaemonFCthis is probably the most disgusting Indiana governor's race I've ever seenJun 26 18:09
DaemonFCthey're both RepublicansJun 26 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Winning BIG on ACTA and Beyond! http://ur1.ca/9ki0d #acta #euJun 26 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz If citizens can demand #facebook provides all the data it collects on self, how come can't be done with #NSA (even track ...Jun 26 18:09
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DaemonFCit's just a question of how Republican Jun 26 18:09
DaemonFCneither one of them are worried about what Indiana voters think of themJun 26 18:10
DaemonFCthey're both in a competition to see who can get the most dirty corporate campaign fundingJun 26 18:10
MinceRyupJun 26 18:10
DaemonFCso I will be voting for the Libertarian candidate this yearJun 26 18:10
MinceRgnJun 26 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Remember that story on GMO grass that was a normal hybrid but still killed cattle? Here's the full Monty. Isolated, un... http://b1t.it/bF1cJun 26 18:14
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MinceRthat story on GMO grass that wasn't GMO :>Jun 26 18:15
formic_DaemonFC: Woot go Ron Paul !!!Jun 26 18:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: your water looks tepidJun 26 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] They fly buildings into financial centres, so we fly unmanned drones into weddings. That's how we spread democracy, one wedding at a time.Jun 26 18:17
sebsebsebschestowitz: Have you heard the Crivins  Episode 20 yet?Jun 26 18:17
sebsebsebI guess notJun 26 18:17
DaemonFCschestowitz: I told you it was bad!Jun 26 18:17
MinceRRon Paul didn't win the nominationJun 26 18:17
DaemonFCIDEM and EPA say it's perfectly safe to drink!Jun 26 18:17
schestowitz[22:34] <DaemonFC> like drinking out of a swimming poolJun 26 18:18
schestowitzNoJun 26 18:18
schestowitzSwimming pool is vastly betterJun 26 18:18
schestowitzmore chlorineJun 26 18:18
DaemonFCyeahJun 26 18:18
formic_Go Ron Paul anyway!!Jun 26 18:18
DaemonFCit tastes like a swimming pool when it's freshJun 26 18:18
DaemonFCafter it has aired out it tastes like swamp waterJun 26 18:18
DaemonFCI don't even want to guess what is in that waterJun 26 18:18
DaemonFCit finally got so bad that I broke down and bought a filterJun 26 18:18
schestowitzformic_ might claim this to be some kind of a sterilisation planJun 26 18:19
schestowitzsebsebseb: noJun 26 18:19
formic_LolJun 26 18:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: listen to it :)Jun 26 18:20
*DaemonFC isn't aware of any fracking going on near here, but it almost resembles what the water near a fracking site looks likeJun 26 18:20
sebsebsebyou saw my dents about it?Jun 26 18:20
schestowitzmaybe I willJun 26 18:20
formic_Isn't it sterilization ?Jun 26 18:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh I went on it yesterdayJun 26 18:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: with Colin as well one of the Mageia founders who maintains Pulseaudio in Mageia and contributes to it upstreamJun 26 18:20
formic_sebsebseb: Link itJun 26 18:21
schestowitz[22:12] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #Crivins Special: http://ur1.ca/9kl4s Colin, myself, @thistleweb, @kevie, &  @aparanoidshell   Also about #Pulseaudio.Jun 26 18:21
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sebsebsebhttp://unseenstudio.co.uk/casts/crivins/episode-20Jun 26 18:21
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DaemonFCmy landlord should be a politicianJun 26 18:21
DaemonFChe doesn't fix his problems, he just moves them aroundJun 26 18:21
DaemonFChe'd make a perfect politicianJun 26 18:21
DaemonFCyou don't pay your rent? no problem! he'll just move you into another one of his apartmentsJun 26 18:22
formic_Did dawn move in with you yet DaemonFC Jun 26 18:23
DaemonFCif Dawn didn't just move, he would have let that go on and on and onJun 26 18:23
DaemonFCnow he moves the woman downstairs, who also isn't paying her rent, into Dawn's apartmentJun 26 18:23
schestowitzdawn said you can make a sandwichJun 26 18:24
schestowitzin the bedroom, not ehe kitchen, her on topJun 26 18:24
DaemonFChe should get rid of the bitch and find a renter that pays on time and doesn't throw trash in the lawnJun 26 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] They hate us because we spread McDonaldsJun 26 18:24
*DaemonFC needs to gather up a bunch of junk to take down to the goodwill boxJun 26 18:25
DaemonFCwonder if I can stuff Lorie in there tooJun 26 18:25
DaemonFCput a sticker on her that says "WHORE - 50 cents"Jun 26 18:25
formic_Donate yourselfJun 26 18:25
DaemonFC"Lamp shade sold separately"Jun 26 18:25
DaemonFChmm, I still have my brother's old broken XBOX 360 that's out of warranty and Microsoft wants $100 to send a replacement...Jun 26 18:27
DaemonFCmight as well toss that inJun 26 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] RT @muktware: @Fedora 18 to Offer Awesome Setup, Configuration Experience: http://2tu.us/5oztJun 26 18:29
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/94433735#notice-94941802 http://identi.ca/notice/94941802Jun 26 18:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 22:09:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Very good question ... that would make a good article, RoyJun 26 18:32
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94942171Jun 26 18:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Gabriel Saldana (gabrielsaldana)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 22:25:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz well, you have to admit it is really bad food ;)Jun 26 18:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1749036Jun 26 18:34
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schestowitz"that looks interesting! Need to check it out."Jun 26 18:34
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schestowitzbecause this way, people will spred this link like wildfire.Jun 26 18:35
schestowitzSensationalism.Jun 26 18:35
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748931 "I have to admit - when I first saw this I was thinking "PS3 - Playstation 3?""Jun 26 18:35
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schestowitz"Politics and humanistic pride, not religion"Jun 26 18:36
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schestowitz"It's a little relieving to learn that others have started to come to the same conclusions I've drawn several years ago about the Ubuntu malignancy^Wphenomenon. Yet, it is only the sequel of a development that has started much longer before: The depoliticization of Free Software. Those who have called for a pragmatic approach to spreading what used to be called the GNU system are now facing a situation where a wide can has been reached,Jun 26 18:38
schestowitz yet nothing substantial has changed. Running Ubuntu could be considered worse than not running Free Software at all. It is a situation worse than defeat...:"Jun 26 18:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 18:38
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/94435787#notice-94942378 http://identi.ca/notice/94942378Jun 26 18:38
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TechrightsBot-tr@David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 22:34:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz then they clearly have a valid beefJun 26 18:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ASUS Eee PC 1225C, Ubuntu Pre-Installed Laptop http://ur1.ca/9klmb #gnu #linuxJun 26 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian Court Issues Triple-Whammy Ruling In Favor Of Free Speech And Commentary Online http://identi.ca/url/72476230Jun 26 18:49
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sebsebsebformic_: listening to it yet?Jun 26 18:51
formic_Not yetJun 26 18:52
sebsebseboh okJun 26 18:52
formic_Once I get home Jun 26 18:52
formic_I willJun 26 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mac Users See Pricier Rooms At Orbitz http://bit.ly/LA1VFF « I wonder what they serve up to Linux users? http://b1t.it/bF1vJun 26 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today was so beautiful I did more cat wrangling than writing http://identi.ca/attachment/72476274Jun 26 18:54
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formic_sebsebseb: Play Diablo3?Jun 26 18:56
sebsebsebformic_: noJun 26 18:58
formic_sebsebseb: Do you know anyone who does play it on mageia?Jun 26 19:00
sebsebsebnope why?Jun 26 19:00
formic_Been trying to get diablo workingJun 26 19:03
formic_I have a few tricks I need to try out tonightJun 26 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum @kevie may the ride be smooth and may you not miss your stop :)Jun 26 19:05
formic_You should have said it works in mageiaJun 26 19:08
formic_I would have tried itJun 26 19:09
formic_LolJun 26 19:09
formic_<3 fedoraJun 26 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz #ASUS Eee PC 1225C, Ubuntu Pre-Installed Laptop http://ur1.ca/9klmb #gnu #linuxJun 26 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @evan POSSE = Publish Own Site, Syndicate Everywhere #indieweb #osb12Jun 26 19:10
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fewtOne of the guys on my team has Diablo 3 working in Fuduntu. https://plus.google.com/113165865431448128244/posts/aWrw15tYM3zJun 26 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @chicagonpg Monsanto kills Fox News story of their BGH hormones in your milk - HQ version en YouTube http://bit.ly/MRqttoJun 26 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @evan POSSE = Publish Own Site, Syndicate Everywhere #indieweb #osb12Jun 26 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Intro blog post from Google Policy Fellow Andrew Blanco: Creative Commons Licensing in the World of Philanthropy - http://goo.gl/XWsknJun 26 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Sudan continues crackdown, arresting more bloggers including @MimzicalMimz and @simsimt https://eff.org/r.5adTJun 26 20:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Band Explains Why It Loves When Fans Download Unauthorized Copies Of Its Music http://goo.gl/ufhMCJun 26 20:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb Band Explains Why It Loves When Fans Download Unauthorized Copies Of Its Music http://goo.gl/ufhMCJun 26 20:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Fulfilling the #Internet's primary purpose: http://laurelrusswurm.tumblr.com/tagged/cats-outside #catsJun 26 20:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] I should note #Radcliffe is now chief drafter but is rep'ing future foundation, as it were. #notharmonyJun 26 20:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] Thanks to Adobe, all session leaders at #cls12 in July will get a free print copy of my book The Art of Community 2nd Edition :-)Jun 26 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Ahead of #nmf27 - just had productive meeting with Hugh Grant about media pluralism in # http://p.ost.im/p/e3B2jLJun 26 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Co's including publishers, technology companies, wholesalers, bookshops, etc. to sign ou http://p.ost.im/p/e3mqMgJun 26 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Fed up with not being able to buy your #eBooks across borders, or to transfer between de http://p.ost.im/p/e3JsVFJun 26 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: 7/10 largest world publishers are European. What about common Eurn platform to deliver # http://p.ost.im/p/e329DkJun 26 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: "We endorse principle that no barriers for consumers to acquire #eBooks across territori http://p.ost.im/p/e3YFeHJun 26 21:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @IlCommPorro I already do! If everyone cd b like @cyberdoyle we achieve Every European C http://p.ost.im/p/e3dBVLJun 26 21:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Confrontation With #TSA Agent Leaves Grandpa's Ashes On Floor http://identi.ca/url/72478909 #policestateJun 26 22:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @swersanne Hé Anne, heb je geen goesting in een mega-wijs project ;)Jun 26 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @swersanne We doen 3 weken #iSoc12 waar studenten projecten uitwerken voor betere wereld. Zin om die bu http://ur1. ...Jun 26 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Sander_R_ wat weet je van iRail?Jun 26 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @hannesvdvreken my bar would be called pubsubpub @wimremesJun 26 00:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @sandervdm Verdorie toch. Met te veel werk in Brussel blijven hangen :( /cc @annabelle__sJun 26 00:05
DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/asexual-mao-sugiyama-cooks-serves-own-genitals_n_1543307.htmlJun 26 00:06
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schestowitzDaemonFC: good siteJun 26 00:06
schestowitzhttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/Jun 26 00:06
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schestowitzI bet the Waltons don't like the siteJun 26 00:06
schestowitzhttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/50660/leave-a-comment-to-win/Jun 26 00:07
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schestowitz"People of Walmart: Shop & Awe..."Jun 26 00:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Wait, I am so confused - is #nuclear power good or bad, then? And is #Iran good or evil? bit.ly/LwJWzD !lol #usaJun 26 00:09
DaemonFCschestowitz: Because it shows the kind of trailer trash that shops there?Jun 26 00:09
DaemonFCeveryone who has ever been to a Walmart has seen thatJun 26 00:09
schestowitzonly thoseJun 26 00:09
schestowitzit doesn't show the FarmersJun 26 00:09
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schestowitzI have always thought rhe term "white trash" is very racist in thr Jun 26 00:11
schestowitz*the USJun 26 00:11
DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/51070/crackin-backs/Jun 26 00:11
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schestowitzbecause it lends to the idea that "brown people" are trash by defaultJun 26 00:11
schestowitzand then there's white, and white trashJun 26 00:11
schestowitzewwwJun 26 00:11
schestowitzI didn't need to see THATJun 26 00:12
schestowitzMaybe it's like the sagging pants, which inmates use as a sign they're ready for buttsecks in jailJun 26 00:12
schestowitz"Jun 26 00:12
schestowitzI’d hit that….Jun 26 00:12
schestowitzwith a 2×4Jun 26 00:12
schestowitz"Jun 26 00:12
schestowitz"dude or chick?"Jun 26 00:13
schestowitz"That’s no crack…it’s a fissure."Jun 26 00:17
scientesschestowitz, yeah both "white trash" and "cracker" are racial slursJun 26 00:17
DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/51159/pretty-pretty-princess/Jun 26 00:17
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DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/51169/heaven-hell/Jun 26 00:17
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DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/51207/pac-attack/Jun 26 00:17
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DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/51268/ass-like-that-3/Jun 26 00:17
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DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/51242/apply-now/Jun 26 00:17
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DaemonFCLOLJun 26 00:17
schestowitzHeheJun 26 00:17
schestowitzI was eatingJun 26 00:17
schestowitzAlmost blew it at the keyboard a few timesJun 26 00:17
schestowitzhehe... "pac attack"Jun 26 00:17
schestowitzaka crap suitcaseJun 26 00:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @unseenstudio: #Crivins leaves it's teenage years behind with episode 20 - the #Mageia special wi Seb & Colin http://fwd4.me/1475 #ccmusicJun 26 00:17
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schestowitz"Her ass cheeks are eating her stretchy pants pockets."Jun 26 00:18
DaemonFChttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/51289/no-return-to-innocence/Jun 26 00:18
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schestowitzhttp://www.peopleofwalmart.com/photos/random-photos/Jun 26 00:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Seems like #OECD should send observers to upcoming #US elections: bit.ly/LLZQTHJun 26 00:24
scientesschestowitz, you hadn't seen that site before?Jun 26 00:24
DaemonFCthat site is enough to make you go....Jun 26 00:25
DaemonFC"I think I'll just have a few saltine crackers instead"Jun 26 00:25
*DaemonFC should have warned schestowitzJun 26 00:25
DaemonFCthat one where the Japanese guy let people eat his penis was the worst of the bunchJun 26 00:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "We think the prohibition of some drugs is creating more problems to society than the drug itself" go, Uruguay! wapo.st/LwMFJFJun 26 00:29
DaemonFCmaybe because it had photos if his penis and balls in a plastic bag all cut up and ready to cookJun 26 00:29
DaemonFCblood and allJun 26 00:29
DaemonFCeeeeeJun 26 00:29
*DaemonFC shuddersJun 26 00:29
DaemonFC*ofJun 26 00:29
DaemonFCschestowitz: What's even more bizarre is that someone paid $100,000 to eat thatJun 26 00:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "#Siri Really Speaks Chinese, Just Don’t Ask Her About Tiananmen" on.wsj.com/LM0bpj #Apple #CrappleJun 26 00:30
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schestowitzewwwJun 26 00:32
schestowitzsave me the detailsJun 26 00:32
schestowitzhe could just eat a normal cockJun 26 00:32
schestowitz3 quid at Aldi... with bonesJun 26 00:32
DaemonFCI know right?Jun 26 00:32
schestowitzyou eat cockJun 26 00:32
DaemonFCthough most people who showed up just had the crocodileJun 26 00:32
schestowitzof both kinddsJun 26 00:33
schestowitzthe animal also..Jun 26 00:33
DaemonFCmmmmmmmm, cockJun 26 00:33
schestowitzthat's croc!Jun 26 00:33
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DaemonFCyou know if you spice it just right....maybe deep fry itJun 26 00:33
DaemonFCchicken, talking about CHICKENJun 26 00:33
DaemonFCpervertJun 26 00:33
DaemonFC:PJun 26 00:33
schestowitzthe cock knife helps separate the wingsJun 26 00:33
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DaemonFCschestowitz: The worst part about it is that it was Asian cock, so you're just going to be hungry again in an hour anywayJun 26 00:35
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] That's blatant !copyright infringement and #NASA should pay exorbitant (pun intended) amount of money to #Disney! bit.ly/LwNAtjJun 26 00:35
schestowitz:/Jun 26 00:35
schestowitzsmall cocks are a bad thingJun 26 00:36
schestowitzfor girls, it's less of a problem... until delivery of a babyJun 26 00:36
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DaemonFCyou'd think that we'd be evolving towards bigger and bigger cocksJun 26 00:36
DaemonFCI mean, at least based on female preferenceJun 26 00:37
schestowitzaaaaJun 26 00:37
schestowitznaaaJun 26 00:37
schestowitzhad a chat about it todayJun 26 00:37
scientesgaaah!Jun 26 00:37
*DaemonFC wonders if the federal government is studying that yetJun 26 00:37
schestowitzhow c-sections make us dependent on themJun 26 00:37
scientesschestowitz, yepJun 26 00:37
schestowitzwomen pass their genes that would have killed the mother at birth some hundreds of years agoJun 26 00:37
scientesbut that is pretty controversial stuff.....Jun 26 00:37
schestowitzand people no longer selecting based on stuff we 'cure'Jun 26 00:37
scientesand also not neccicarily very sure science, its more hypothesis than anythingJun 26 00:38
schestowitzbracers and retainers alsoJun 26 00:38
schestowitzstill in the DNAJun 26 00:38
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scientescause there is a hell of alot of multi-generational complexity to DNAJun 26 00:38
schestowitzi started with..Jun 26 00:38
scientesthat isn't actually stored in the DNA sequence itsselfJun 26 00:38
schestowitzif mixed couples lead to varying baby sized too bigJun 26 00:38
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I had a couple extra teeth that I had to have pulledJun 26 00:38
DaemonFCthat was just weirdJun 26 00:39
schestowitzTyrese is black and his sister had a 10-pound babyJun 26 00:39
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DaemonFCthat's in addition to the wisdom teeth of courseJun 26 00:39
schestowitzso you're ok nowJun 26 00:39
DaemonFCyepJun 26 00:39
schestowitzto pass genesJun 26 00:39
DaemonFCnahJun 26 00:39
schestowitzactually, I'm being told I'm "to big"Jun 26 00:39
DaemonFCunless science figures that one out tooJun 26 00:40
schestowitzto the point where it hurts rather than is always pleasurable, but I can deal with that :-)Jun 26 00:40
DaemonFCyou just need to look aroundJun 26 00:40
DaemonFCmaybe put it on your eharmony profileJun 26 00:40
DaemonFCWarning: Third leg!Jun 26 00:40
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 00:40
schestowitzheheJun 26 00:40
schestowitzmade that joke some days ago.. or last nightJun 26 00:41
schestowitzbetter too big then too smallJun 26 00:41
schestowitz*thanJun 26 00:41
DaemonFCOr you could post a tweet offering to do the same thing that Japanese guy didJun 26 00:42
DaemonFConly for $200,000Jun 26 00:42
schestowitzewwwJun 26 00:42
schestowitzstop it..Jun 26 00:42
schestowitz!google weatherman size dickJun 26 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Weatherman Compares Snowfall to Size of his Dick - College Humor | http://www.collegehumor.com/video/5905664/weatherman-compares-snowfall-to-size-of-his-dickJun 26 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Pete Bouchard: The Biggest Weatherman In The Biz (VIDEO) | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/pete-bouchard-the-biggest_n_429971.htmlJun 26 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Local Weatherman References His Manhood In Describing Snow ... | http://www.mediaite.com/online/local-weatherman-references-his-manhood-in-describing-snow-fall/Jun 26 00:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Weatherman Drops A Dick Joke – Banned In Hollywood | http://www.bannedinhollywood.com/weatherman-drops-a-dick-joke/Jun 26 00:42
DaemonFC"Hey, sure it's twice as expensive, but you get three times as much!"Jun 26 00:42
DaemonFCyou make up for it in volumeJun 26 00:42
schestowitzthe buyer had scrambles eggs that nightJun 26 00:43
schestowitzand then he took a crapJun 26 00:43
schestowitzewwwJun 26 00:43
schestowitzthat's just so disgustingJun 26 00:43
schestowitzcannibalism on auction even as legal?Jun 26 00:44
schestowitz!google munster cannibalJun 26 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Sebastian Munster - Woodcut Images | http://www.tablespace.net/maps/munsterimages.htmlJun 26 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - ASIA INDIA WOODCUT MAP MUNSTER PTOLEMY MONSTERS ... | http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASIA-INDIA-WOODCUT-MAP-MUNSTER-PTOLEMY-MONSTERS-CANNIBALS-1545-E31-/270836378444Jun 26 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 'Munsters' Reboot Pilot Features Cannibals & Ancient Shapeshifters ... | http://screenrant.com/munsters-reboot-pilot-details-sandy-142095/Jun 26 00:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Vanilla Ice - Mudd Munster Lyrics | http://www.lyricsmania.com/mudd_munster_lyrics_vanilla_ice.htmlJun 26 00:44
DaemonFCschestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djItGln6IxYJun 26 00:44
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DaemonFCthat one is betterJun 26 00:44
schestowitzhey, I figured out a joke today...Jun 26 00:44
schestowitzWhy don't jewish people eat pigs? That would be cannibalism ;-pJun 26 00:45
DaemonFCMuslims tooJun 26 00:45
schestowitzyeahJun 26 00:45
schestowitzfaithsJun 26 00:45
schestowitzgo figureJun 26 00:45
schestowitzit figures, donnit?Jun 26 00:45
DaemonFCreligion and dietJun 26 00:46
DaemonFCit's like religion and hatsJun 26 00:46
schestowitzToday I passed by Church of ScientologyJun 26 00:46
DaemonFCCarlin joked about thatJun 26 00:46
schestowitzBanned in Wikipedia nowJun 26 00:46
schestowitzThey have some desks where they sell their BSJun 26 00:46
schestowitzSaw it from the outside in ManchesterJun 26 00:46
DaemonFCoh well, more bacon for meJun 26 00:46
schestowitzThey havr something like "soul... thetan" on the front windowsJun 26 00:46
schestowitzThen I thought, why is this legal?Jun 26 00:46
schestowitzSurely a scamJun 26 00:46
schestowitzBut then I thoughtJun 26 00:47
schestowitzThey don't ban churches, do they?Jun 26 00:47
DaemonFCthey can say whatever they want because it's a "religion"Jun 26 00:47
DaemonFC"religion" = exempt from false claims lawsJun 26 00:47
schestowitzThey're all scams, but like rich robbers they have enough power to legalise their criminal behaviourJun 26 00:47
schestowitztax evasion, mass deceit...Jun 26 00:47
schestowitz!google chiropractors try to become religionJun 26 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Where is God in Chiropractic? | Chiropractic Blogs | http://blog.planetc1.com/where-is-god-in-chiropractic/Jun 26 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Chiropractary | http://www.letusreason.org/NAM33.htmJun 26 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Chiropractic promotions - bogus tests, false claims, and testimonials | http://www.chirowatch.com/cw-ontario-chiros.htmlJun 26 00:48
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DaemonFCschestowitz: They use religion as a smoke screen to sell you shit and make tons of tax free moneyJun 26 00:48
DaemonFCtelevangelists do it all the timeJun 26 00:48
schestowitzyeahJun 26 00:48
schestowitzcalling yourself "religion" imminises you from this thing called "common sense" and law of the landJun 26 00:48
schestowitzto some people, it's Ok to conflate culture and heritage with religionJun 26 00:49
DaemonFCschestowitz: If a person has no bullshit filter, they will not stop at religionJun 26 00:49
schestowitzbut that's wrong. History is history, but bad ideas and myths are notJun 26 00:49
DaemonFCthey'll get sucked into ponzi scamsJun 26 00:49
DaemonFCand other stuff like thatJun 26 00:49
schestowitzor placebosJun 26 00:49
DaemonFCI need to go to the store and get some sunburn creamJun 26 01:01
DaemonFCthis burn is getting really irritatingJun 26 01:01
*DaemonFC hasn't had a sunburn in yearsJun 26 01:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Why We Fork aptosid :: siduction.org :: #debian based live cd development http://goo.gl/boK1gJun 26 01:29
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DaemonFCthey did have sunburn lotion at the dollar store.... yayJun 26 01:50
DaemonFCevil evil sunJun 26 01:50
*DaemonFC starts a religion where the sun is evilJun 26 01:50
DaemonFCschestowitz: I have an MSNTV box that I got at an auction yesterdayJun 26 01:55
DaemonFCan RCA RM2100 with 8 MB of RAM and a MIPS processorJun 26 01:55
DaemonFCI didn't bid on it, it was part of a lotJun 26 01:55
DaemonFCany suggestions on what to do with it?Jun 26 01:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Wikipedia's @jimmy_wales opposes extradition of UK teen Richard O'Dwyer to US on weak copyright charges. https://eff.org/r.a8dHJun 26 02:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Are Patent Wars Worth the Price Tag? http://goo.gl/CFPIOJun 26 02:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #USTR Gives #MPAA Full Online Access To #TPP Text, But Still Won't Share With Senate Staffers http://goo.gl/sOOoQJun 26 02:49
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Did I mention the county commissioner that is under a sexual harassment investigation by the Indiana State Police?Jun 26 03:08
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 03:08
DaemonFCHe told a woman that worked for him cleaning some of his offices and rental properties that if she was "REALLY nice to him" that he would "take [her] to Big Lots" and "get [her] some nice stuff"Jun 26 03:09
DaemonFCPENIS SCANDAL!!! woohooJun 26 03:09
DaemonFCthese pricks spend year after year fucking Huntington County over and driving employers and the tax paying residents away....Jun 26 03:10
DaemonFCwhen do we start caring?Jun 26 03:10
DaemonFCoh right, when one of them slaps the cleaning lady on the ass and says he'll take her to Big LotsJun 26 03:10
DaemonFCapparently....Jun 26 03:10
DaemonFCthis is tragic Jun 26 03:11
DaemonFCthis is what happens when society punishes "moral charges" more severely than actual crimesJun 26 03:12
DaemonFClike bribery and graftJun 26 03:13
DaemonFCevery once in a while if one of them won't play ball, they're "taken care of"Jun 26 03:13
DaemonFCthat's when you start hearing about a congressman with a freezer full of $100 billsJun 26 03:14
DaemonFCthey all do it, you only get to hear about it when the people bribing them have gone too far and they won't play ball anymoreJun 26 03:14
DaemonFChttp://rupertforgovernor.com/Jun 26 03:20
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DaemonFCdecided to vote for him this yearJun 26 03:20
DaemonFCthe Democrat and the Republican are both the same thingJun 26 03:20
DaemonFChttp://www.sabayon.org/release/press-release-sabayon-linux-9Jun 26 03:53
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DaemonFChttp://www.netrunner-os.com/dryland-second-edition-released/Jun 26 04:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.cnn.com/2011/US/03/01/water.bills.war/index.htmlJun 26 05:05
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scientesDaemonFC, how do you make a living?Jun 26 05:06
scientes(no answer required)Jun 26 05:06
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DaemonFChttp://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/06/21/10-well-known-brands-that-will-disappear-in-2013/Jun 26 05:28
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DaemonFCthey say Avon is too busy "putting out fires" than advancing the businessJun 26 05:34
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DaemonFCyeah, they would have been shut down years ago if the feds ever bothered investigating them soonerJun 26 05:34
DaemonFChttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/25/microsoft-buys-yammer-for_n_1625193.htmlJun 26 05:42
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DaemonFChttp://www.pocket-lint.com/news/45722/sodastream-fizz-pictures-hands-onJun 26 05:52
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DaemonFCwas talking about this the other dayJun 26 05:52
DaemonFCI'm not impressedJun 26 05:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @unseenstudio #Crivins leaves it's teenage years behind with episode 20 - the #Mageia special wi Seb & Colin http://fwd4.me/1475 #ccm ...Jun 26 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Stav.Jun 26 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The senior partners in the British coalition government have been spending too much time talking to USA Republicans. It is starting to show.Jun 26 06:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British government has started the process of putting an #NHS hospital into administration for the first time. #SavetheNHSJun 26 06:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Turing Archive Director Questions Alan Turing Suicide Report. http://ur1.ca/9kg11Jun 26 06:27
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DaemonFChttp://www.rd.com/slideshows/13-things-a-movie-theater-employee-won%E2%80%99t-tell-you/Jun 26 06:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Orbitz customizing search results for #Mac users with higher-priced hotels http://goo.gl/bXMXf kinda predictable reallyJun 26 06:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament Next Week http://goo.gl/k17Yo wtf?Jun 26 06:45
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DaemonFCI'd like to try out Netrunner, but they include Skype apparently in the default install?Jun 26 06:58
DaemonFCyuckJun 26 06:58
DaemonFCthat's even worse than MonoJun 26 06:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @whistlewright @laurelrusswurm mumble is a voice over internet thing. It is also one of the most underutilised services provided on p ...Jun 26 06:59
schestowitzDaemonFC: am back nowJun 26 07:01
schestowitzjust 4 hours of sleepJun 26 07:01
schestowitzg/f woke me upJun 26 07:01
schestowitz[01:55] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: I have an MSNTV box that I got at an auction yesterdayJun 26 07:01
schestowitzwhat's this TV?Jun 26 07:01
DaemonFCit's a set top boxJun 26 07:01
schestowitz[03:08] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Did I mention the county commissioner that is under a sexual harassment investigation by the Indiana State Police?Jun 26 07:01
schestowitzI'd get flak for it, but "sexual harassment" is overratedJun 26 07:02
schestowitzsome women gave it a bad nameJun 26 07:02
schestowitzou can commit this with your mouthJun 26 07:02
schestowitzand I don't mean orallyJun 26 07:02
schestowitzLike if you tell a colleague her dress is niceJun 26 07:02
DaemonFCyeahJun 26 07:02
DaemonFCsome women overreactJun 26 07:02
schestowitzand when I last signed a work contract they hand out to me, as a guy, some form about sexual conuctJun 26 07:02
schestowitzappaently women complain about guys thereJun 26 07:03
schestowitzI wonderedJun 26 07:03
schestowitzdo women have to sign that too?Jun 26 07:03
schestowitzI sure hope soJun 26 07:03
schestowitzguys too can be subjected to "sexual harassment"Jun 26 07:03
DaemonFCtechnically....Jun 26 07:03
schestowitzThey just don't complain about itJun 26 07:03
schestowitzit's not liike rapeJun 26 07:03
DaemonFCsexual harassment charges can be filed by a man against a womanJun 26 07:03
DaemonFCbut it's so rare it's almost unheard ofJun 26 07:03
schestowitz!google atheist convention sex means coffee elevatorJun 26 07:04
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Whole Watson/McGraw/Elevator Guy/Richard Dawkins Mess ... | http://verbosestoic.wordpress.com/2011/07/04/the-whole-watsonmcgrawelevator-guyrichard-dawkins-mess/Jun 26 07:04
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Atheist Elevator Guy « Gucci Little Piggy | http://glpiggy.net/2011/07/04/atheist-elevator-guy/Jun 26 07:04
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Skepchick in an elevator is not interesting | Partial Objects | http://partialobjects.com/2011/07/skepchick-in-an-elevator-is-not-interesting/Jun 26 07:04
schestowitzwell, I guess my mate Mark can file for sexual harassmentJun 26 07:04
schestowitzhis tenant is making moves on himJun 26 07:05
schestowitzdoesn't matter how much he blows her offJun 26 07:05
DaemonFCyeah, even something well intentioned can be misconstruedJun 26 07:05
schestowitzhe's married with a child, he's a prof where she's a phd studentJun 26 07:05
schestowitzhe's twice her ageJun 26 07:05
schestowitzand she knows all thisJun 26 07:05
DaemonFCjust bringing someone a cup of coffee can be taken the wrong wayJun 26 07:05
schestowitzshe used to have an affair with her high school teacher, it's her only other relationshipJun 26 07:05
schestowitzhe tld me ysterdayJun 26 07:06
schestowitzhe wants to kick her outJun 26 07:06
schestowitzshe keeps putting her feet on himJun 26 07:06
schestowitzhe can't even watch a filmJun 26 07:06
schestowitza prisoner in his own house that he ownsJun 26 07:06
schestowitzand now she makes asshole remarksJun 26 07:06
schestowitzlike that can possibyl turn him o, obviously it doesn'tJun 26 07:07
schestowitzhe locks himself in the bathroom, for fear she'd deliberately walk in while he showersJun 26 07:07
DaemonFCthat's a big no noJun 26 07:07
DaemonFCteacher/studentJun 26 07:07
DaemonFCthat's illegal (here anyway) even if they're both adultsJun 26 07:08
schestowitzyeahJun 26 07:08
schestowitzhis colleagues ask about itJun 26 07:08
schestowitzit's a weird accidsental situationJun 26 07:09
schestowitzhe moved to spain with his wife and rented out his house in ManchesterJun 26 07:09
schestowitzso meanwhile she moved in and he can't get her outJun 26 07:09
schestowitzshe said to him yesterday, "what if I can't find another place?"Jun 26 07:09
schestowitzshe tries seducing him for months now, I keep telling him /(my g/f too) to get rid of her ASAPJun 26 07:10
schestowitzShe started by talking about hos little sex she'd hadJun 26 07:10
DaemonFCwell, it's a lesser offense of course if they're both adults, it's conflict of interestJun 26 07:10
schestowitzand then talked about her menstruation cycles to himJun 26 07:10
schestowitzout of nowhereJun 26 07:10
DaemonFCa teacher shouldn't have a relationship like that when they're in a position to grade papers and suchJun 26 07:10
schestowitznow asshole remarksJun 26 07:10
schestowitzI think it was after she graduatedJun 26 07:11
schestowitzbut anyway, girls these days go after older guysJun 26 07:11
DaemonFCnothing wrong with that as long as there's no conflict of interest, they're both adults, and nothing is coerced Jun 26 07:14
DaemonFCpeople make too big a deal out of sexJun 26 07:14
schestowitzstill...Jun 26 07:14
DaemonFCit's just sexJun 26 07:14
schestowitzhe's well old enough to be her dadJun 26 07:14
schestowitz48 vs 24Jun 26 07:15
DaemonFC24 = adultJun 26 07:15
schestowitzyesJun 26 07:15
schestowitzsex-driven societyJun 26 07:15
DaemonFCit's always been like thatJun 26 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @go2n Microsoft Block Access to Free Software Charity Site, Dub it ‘Gambling’ http://ur1.ca/9kg4lJun 26 07:15
DaemonFCit always will be Jun 26 07:15
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schestowitzHollywood glamourises itJun 26 07:15
DaemonFCnah, try a couple hundred thousand years before Hollywood existedJun 26 07:16
DaemonFClearning to be ashamed is a recent developmentJun 26 07:16
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 07:16
schestowitzit's an ownership thingJun 26 07:16
DaemonFCnahJun 26 07:20
DaemonFCit's about manipulation Jun 26 07:21
schestowitzhttp://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/vixd5/microsoft_attacks_software_freedom_in_india_with/Jun 26 07:21
schestowitz"The IT@school project in Kerala is really a brilliant model which would be soon used as a base model for other boards in the country. One such output of this amazing concept is the creation of this wiki portal named SchoolWiki which is the result of collaborative learning in Kerala’s schools. I wonder whether the Govt. of Assam did have a background check before calling out M$ for this project !"Jun 26 07:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The corporate monster (industry in the US) will extend two iron arms this year and ask us which one we want, Left or Right?Jun 26 07:22
DaemonFCschestowitz: Ron PaulJun 26 07:24
DaemonFCRupert Boneham Jun 26 07:24
DaemonFC(for Indiana governor)Jun 26 07:25
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_BonehamJun 26 07:25
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schestowitzRupeJun 26 07:25
DaemonFChttp://rupertforgovernor.com/meet-rupertJun 26 07:26
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schestowitz"Yeah. Far more than any of the visual changes that always seem to be going on, what I'm really longing for is an api so we can get all kinds of other services working with D*" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1738737Jun 26 07:26
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: KDE To Become More Social  http://www.muktware.com/3737/kde-become-more-social #kde always at the forefrontJun 26 07:26
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DaemonFCschestowitz: The "Democrat", John Gregg, is a "DINO"Jun 26 07:28
DaemonFChe sounds a lot more like a RepublicanJun 26 07:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good Morning @Kevie @Mcnalu @Skpl @Thistleweb @Laurelrusswurm.Jun 26 07:29
DaemonFChe said he wants to cut the corporate tax rate to NOTHING and put a gay marriage ban into the state constitutionJun 26 07:29
DaemonFCI can't vote for that shitJun 26 07:29
DaemonFCthat's the same exact shit we'll be getting with the Republican (Mike Pence)Jun 26 07:30
MinceRperhaps that's what his funders wantJun 26 07:30
DaemonFCI figure I lose no matter which one wins, so I may as well just make a protest voteJun 26 07:30
DaemonFCvote for Rupert Boneham Jun 26 07:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Usually the Republican and Democrat at least try to pretend to be differentJun 26 07:31
DaemonFCthis year they've just dropped all the pretenses and admit they're really the same thingJun 26 07:31
MinceR:>Jun 26 07:32
MinceRi'm reading Republic, Lost by Lawrence LessigJun 26 07:32
DaemonFCthe biggest difference is the color of tie they wear Jun 26 07:32
DaemonFCthey both want a big authoritarian governmentJun 26 07:33
MinceRa big government is good for fundraising :>Jun 26 07:33
DaemonFCneither one of them want to cut government waste, rather they just make more of it every year but always claim to have cut it when they're up for re-electionJun 26 07:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Head of MI5 says that an unnamed British company has lost £800m due to cyber attacks. Sounds like the maths of copyright infringement.Jun 26 07:34
DaemonFCneither one of them want to get rid of illegal immigrantsJun 26 07:34
DaemonFCboth of them try to figure out how to take money from you and give it to private for-profit corporationsJun 26 07:34
DaemonFCeverything from defense contractors to privatized drinking waterJun 26 07:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Loch Ness monster cited by US schools as evidence that #evolution is myth - http://bit.ly/MKHhAa </facepalm>Jun 26 07:36
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DaemonFCMinceR: At least it peps up the economy a little bit when millionaires and billionaires let loose a trillion dollars  into the economy buying attack ads and funding these corrupt political campaignsJun 26 07:36
DaemonFCbut it's jsut temporaryJun 26 07:36
DaemonFClasts a few months at bestJun 26 07:36
MinceRonly a small part of the economy, i thinkJun 26 07:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux http://ur1.ca/9kgbz #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 07:50
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DaemonFCschestowitz: well, it has been a weird yearJun 26 08:22
DaemonFCwhat with all the drug addict minorities eating peopleJun 26 08:22
DaemonFCmaybe the loch ness monster is realJun 26 08:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Kościół martwi się, że nie będzie 2h religii tygodniowo w szkołach bit.ly/MO6wn8 Zaraz mnie coś trafi! !polskaJun 26 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament Next Week - http://bit.ly/OkJGpj such contemptJun 26 09:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple’s Patent Cases Against Android Continue Falling Apart, Oracle Tries Again http://ur1.ca/9kgv7 #oracle #apple #android #linuxJun 26 09:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Debian and Ubuntu Surpass Red Hat and CentOS for Top Linux Distributions on SMB File Servers http://ur1.ca/9kgwp just not in terms of $Jun 26 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Online Infringement of #Copyright and the Digital Economy Act 2010: Ofcom's new code - http://bit.ly/MWeRkS 1 month consultation onlyJun 26 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #NVIDIA feels Torvalds' finger http://ur1.ca/9kgx5 http://ur1.ca/9kgx6 http://ur1.ca/9kgx7Jun 26 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dutch Pirate Party Now at Door to Parliament - http://bit.ly/MxglGG excellent stuff #nlJun 26 10:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Fundraising Good. Lawsuits Bad: The Oatmeal’s Indiegogo fundraiser ends with $220,000 in donations http://goo.gl/teiljJun 26 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First look at #Sabayon Linux 9 http://ur1.ca/9kgyk #gnu #linuxJun 26 10:05
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747018Jun 26 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux  http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/linux-growth/  #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 10:07
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schestowitz"We'll see. Microsoft has ways of forcing compliance. And "some people" dislike the new os isn't all that earth shattering. "Some people" always manage to dislike a new os no matter what it is."Jun 26 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Will #Murdoch agree to spin off News Corp. publishing? http://goo.gl/XVnCv #FoxNews finally officially classed as "entertainment" thenJun 26 10:07
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schestowitz"...and"Twitter" still means nothing but the sound birds make, just like 20 years ago, because the meaning of words never changes, right, Randall?"Jun 26 10:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1742273Jun 26 10:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 12.10 Prepares To Improve Linux Performance http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_ups&num=1 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 10:09
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schestowitzHeheJun 26 10:09
schestowitzover "Ubuntu"Jun 26 10:09
schestowitzhijacking the brandsJun 26 10:09
schestowitzRight onJun 26 10:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1736975Jun 26 10:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: When you find unprotected wi-fi   ![](http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1vadntaRw1r5ltcq.gif)   #happy #gifJun 26 10:10
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schestowitz"Thanks, Axel, but that's an injustice. No one is responsible for the things other people do without their knowledge or consent."Jun 26 10:11
schestowitzIf practices like these become commonplace, it helps make the MAFIAA angry (they cannot track people), so that's good for everyone.Jun 26 10:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1744236Jun 26 10:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "OEMs can refuse to install M$’s key and the world will be at peace and “8″ will not boot on any PCs." http://mrpogson.com/2012/06/24/solving-the-secure-boot-problem-dont-let-windows-8-secure-boot/Jun 26 10:12
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schestowitz"I wish..."Jun 26 10:12
schestowitzMS no longer has the same leverage it once has; OEMs have Android, Ubuntu, etc.Jun 26 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Now we find that the total Lumia line has been Osborned. Not by Elop this time, this time that was done by Ballmer." http://ur1.ca/9kh23Jun 26 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "N9 running [Linux-based] MeeGo... consistently been rated as... better than the iPhone. " http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #mole #elopJun 26 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone changed the meaning of "smartphone" from "PDA/phone" to "featurephone with a touchscreen"'~MinceR@ #techrightsJun 26 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone made a phone that doesn't really work as a phone acceptable"' ~MinceR@ #techrights (copy&paste? Meh!)Jun 26 10:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Report from Bellevue: meaningful advances on Do Not Track http://dlvr.it/1mVm0zJun 26 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] My PDA from 2004 still beats my Android 4.0 tablet in several areas. We're dumbed down and locked down to the point of uselessness.Jun 26 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mark "they trust me, dumb f*cks" #Zuckerberg wants to read your #emails too, then sell your profile to 3rd parties http://ur1.ca/9kh4hJun 26 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] At #facebook the product is you. The customers are companies that data-mine information on you--to drill your mind and sell you nasty stuff.Jun 26 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Digia: Akademy Sponsor & KDE e.V. Supporting Member http://ur1.ca/9kh5g #digia #kdeJun 26 10:42
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94923978Jun 26 10:43
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 09:09:03 UTC - Identi.ca: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 to Feature Btrfs http://ur1.ca/9kgz8 #redhat #btrfs #oracleJun 26 10:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Facebook: nearly billion items of inventory and a growing list of customers, looking for backdoor access to all this inventory. #facebookJun 26 10:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DavidGaleUK/status/217552879756648449?uid=26603208&iid=am-212786989413407036232805197&nid=27+236Jun 26 10:46
TechrightsBot-tr@DavidGaleUK: @schestowitz My 2003 TC1100 tablet PC knocks spots of the lot of 'em... Full Adobe Photoshop tablet capability as part of PC workflow!Jun 26 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of ACTA By European Parliament Next Week http://identi.ca/url/72465257 !eff !fsfJun 26 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool" ~Richard Stallman http://ur1.ca/5bqdlJun 26 10:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] USTR Gives MPAA Full Online Access To TPP Text, But Still Won't Share With Senate Staffers http://identi.ca/url/72465313 !eff !fsfJun 26 10:49
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schestowitzquote the "inventor" http://boisdejustice.com/History/History.htmlJun 26 10:50
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schestowitz"The document making the death penalty "by mechanical decapitation" the law of the land in the Kingdom of France was signed both by Dr. Antoine Louis, secretary of the National Academy of Surgery, and by Louis the 16th., who was still King of France. Dr. Louis was the author of the technical portion of the document. He explained that this method was the only "humane" mode of execution which insured the condemned a swift and painless Jun 26 10:50
schestowitzdeath. A copy of the law was distributed to all the provinces for immediate implementation. To the right are the four pages of an original 1792 copy of the law sent to the department of Orne and hand-marked as No 76."Jun 26 10:50
schestowitzAlso very "humane" to the mother who watches in the crowd, right?Jun 26 10:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fungicide Used On Farm Crops Linked to Insulin Resistance http://identi.ca/url/72465401 !scienceJun 26 10:55
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iophkhttp://www.edge-online.com/news/microsofts-xbox-division-loses-229-millionJun 26 10:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Stores’ Army, Long on Loyalty but Short on Payhttp://goo.gl/VUC26 so it's a bit like clergy then...Jun 26 11:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Torvalds' finger taps "send" on #Linux 3.5-rc4 http://ur1.ca/9kha0Jun 26 11:00
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schestowitzthanks, I missed thatJun 26 11:00
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schestowitzThe company had lost billions on XboxJun 26 11:01
schestowitzhardware failures are consistent at MicrosoftJun 26 11:01
schestowitz"Mobile Linux is Tizen: you can't kill Linux."Jun 26 11:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747306Jun 26 11:02
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Gesetzentwurf für Mitnutzung von WLANs: “Ohne Internetzugang ist man bereits heute Bürger zweiter Klasse” - http://bit.ly/LcHOKP sensibleJun 26 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] TechRadar shuts down forums after user database hacked http://goo.gl/GmymB (What about @tuxradar?)Jun 26 11:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digitale Gesellschaft präsentiert Gesetzentwurf für Mitnutzung von WLANs: “Ohne Internetzugang ist man bereits heute Bürger zweiter Klasse” | Digitale Gesellschaft .::. Size~: 41.51 KBJun 26 11:02
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schestowitzThey keep trying, but Linux is a hydra. LIPS collapsed onto LIMO, which then rejoined other effortsJun 26 11:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] 8 Best Free !Linux Small Footprint Web Browsers http://goo.gl/InFJzJun 26 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellogauthor/@kernellogauthor] Will head to the airport soon to travel to #Boston for this years #RedHat Summit and #JBoss World.Jun 26 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finally, after 3 agonising days of bad phone line and degraded connection, #bt finally fixed its problem at the exchange. What utter rubbishJun 26 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I have just had the Christians around trying to save me. In the end they seemed quite keen to leave. !AtheismJun 26 11:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 8 Best Free Linux Small Footprint Web Browsers - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site .::. Size~: 30.93 KBJun 26 11:05
iophkXbox is kept afloat by the Office format and Desktop Windows monopolies.Jun 26 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If #facebook was a brothel, you would not be the customer. And guess who's getting nailed?Jun 26 11:09
iophkThere is the possibility that they try to subsidize their 'tablet' like they are doing with the Xbox.  Jun 26 11:09
iophkThe Xbox was originally an experiment in DRMJun 26 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Miss #Kroes has coffee with the little people http://ur1.ca/9khcz joking aside, farms do have a Net access issue (cellular).Jun 26 11:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Internet access should hardly cost a thing. Given the number of connected people, we could use encrypted meshes and decentralise.Jun 26 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Crony capitalism loves terrorism and child porn. It uses those to ban private networking, giving privatised Internet franchises to [..]Jun 26 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] [..] corrupt gov. mates, who in turn enable the upper class spy on and upon demand harass the people down below (e.g. NSA chokepoints).Jun 26 11:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A decentralised method of Internet connection is vastly superior to what we have because there's no single point of failure except you.Jun 26 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Drapelul de luptă al României http://ur1.ca/9khdv #romania #flag #drapel #royal #monarchyJun 26 11:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Sfaturi gratis pentru domnul Nica http://ur1.ca/9khe9 #romania #mcsi #it #windows #linux #software #businessJun 26 11:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Privatisation of Internet in wireless era is priviaisation of zeroes and ones, which is actually worse than privatisation of oxygen (scarce)Jun 26 11:19
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schestowitzhttp://blogs.ec.europa.eu/neelie-kroes/digital-champions-meet/Jun 26 11:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747306Jun 26 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 11:20
schestowitz"Microsoft is doing all it can to destroy free software. thats a known thing."Jun 26 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tom Watson adds voice to campaign to stop #ODwyer extradition - http://bit.ly/MqchXi bravo @tom_watson - who's next? (v @raycorrigan)Jun 26 11:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tom Watson adds voice to campaign to stop Richard O'Dwyer extradition | UK news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 217.63 KBJun 26 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @harishpillay Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 11:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Anonymouse01: RT @telecomix: Dutch government will not ratify #ACTA (.nl) http://t.co/agWfx6hW (via @hasserosen)Jun 26 11:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kabinet ondertekent omstreden ACTA-verdrag niet :: nrc.nl .::. Size~: 63.4 KBJun 26 11:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So IF visiting Orbitz via Mac/iOS THEN show more expensive hotels. I wonder what happens when I show up on Orbitz from... http://b1t.it/bFOyJun 26 11:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - So IF visiting Orbitz via Mac/iOS THEN show more expensive… .::. Size~: 144.82 KBJun 26 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] RT @harishpillay Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sony TVs use #linux http://ur1.ca/9khn4Jun 26 11:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #AUSTRUMI Still Alive, Who Knew? http://ur1.ca/9khnf #gnu #linuxJun 26 11:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747306 Jun 26 11:55
schestowitz"@Roy yep, you could even add Maemo/MeeGo/Moblin, but it's always Linux, backed by an army now: http://www.tizenassociation.org/en/ "Jun 26 11:55
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mobile #Linux was too good. Microsoft had to send an assassin to shoot it at the back of the neck.Jun 26 11:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @jerezim: EPIC translation of Marielle Gallo's intereview http://ur1.ca/9khly (one of the last defenders of #ACTA in the EU Parliament)Jun 26 12:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Translation Interview Marielle Gallo ACTA pcinpact - La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 16.65 KBJun 26 12:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] After having watched DVB-T for a few weeks now, I have a new favourite TV channel - Vimeo :-) It is truly unbelievable... http://b1t.it/bFO0Jun 26 12:09
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schestowitziophk: I got some bad news:Jun 26 12:11
schestowitz> Before the XXXXXX, I would like to tell you privately (do what youJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> want with it, but don't necessarily put my name tag on it, as these areJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> soon to be confirmed facts and my name next to it would make it aJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> partial analysis):Jun 26 12:12
schestowitz> Jun 26 12:12
schestowitz> There's a real hold up on the Apache Openoffice project by IBM. You mayJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> not think these are news, but now there is data to prove it. I'm notJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> speaking of the committers list, full of the Lotus Chinese engineers whoJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> post with their Gmail accout pretending they're independent. I'mJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> speaking about commit stats being grossly tricked by adding anJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> inordinate amount of noise to them, such as contributions made by Mr.Jun 26 12:12
schestowitz> Bug Zilla, Mr Con Fluence... but more worrying (not for LibreOffice, butJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> for FOSS and the ASF in general): IBM is rebasing Apache OpenOffice onJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> IBM Symphony. Let me put this in really simple terms.  You join the ASFJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> with one software, OpenOffice.org . You are very adamant at claiming youJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> ARE the Openoffice.org project, even though you lost your community andJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> the engineers who go with it. You start the Apache Incubation Process.Jun 26 12:12
schestowitz> It's still not over yet, and you release Apache OpenOffice 3.4, whichJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> really is OpenOffice.org 3.4 (no real features added since the OracleJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> beta of the 3.4) with the changed licensed headers. You end up releasingJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> a security fix, the 3.4.1 in a few months, but you explain that ApacheJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> Openoffice 4 will really be... Symphony. Now, Symphony is based onJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> OpenOffice.org, but it's not a skin, or a set of extensions on top ofJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> it. It's a completely different software. So you hijack the wholeJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> community by "contributing a several million lines of code" no one canJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> make sense of instead of the software you are pretending to continue.Jun 26 12:12
schestowitz> Now, that's good news for LibreOffice, because in the end we have twoJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> different software. But for ASF and FOSS, it's a pity. It's a big lie,Jun 26 12:12
schestowitz> and big deception made by one corporation that thinks  we're still inJun 26 12:12
schestowitz> 2002, trying to control Free Software and handling the community as someJun 26 12:12
Diablo-D3holy fuck royJun 26 12:13
schestowitz> sort of fanclub designed to dress up the shop-window fence.Jun 26 12:13
Diablo-D3pastebin that fucking shitJun 26 12:13
schestowitzi would..Jun 26 12:13
schestowitzbut it's importantJun 26 12:13
schestowitzworth reading inlineJun 26 12:13
Diablo-D3pastebin. that fucking. shit.Jun 26 12:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@HansCJohansson @mariejeD66 not if we push copyright reform in EU! #ACTAJun 26 12:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Netrunner 4.2: It's an Everything but the Kitchen Sink Kind of Distro (Review) http://ur1.ca/9kht7 #gnu #linuxJun 26 12:22
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schestowitziophk: is this something that you saw also? And foresaw when Oracle took over?Jun 26 12:23
iophkReading it...Jun 26 12:25
schestowitzMiss Zilla is a top contributorJun 26 12:27
iophkOracle has in general been more than cluess regarding the assets it acquired via Sun.  Jun 26 12:27
iophkOne would think that the only reason for the take over would be to get MySQL and InnoDB out of the way.Jun 26 12:28
schestowitzit gave the TM to IBM via apacheJun 26 12:28
schestowitzIBM can now use it to push its proprietary LotusJun 26 12:29
iophkAFAIK the community went almost entirely over to LOJun 26 12:29
schestowitzeven red hatJun 26 12:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An Overview Of #Qt 5.0 Features http://ur1.ca/9khus #kdeJun 26 12:30
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iophkIBM is about the only contributor left in AOO, so it would not be hard for them to effect a take over.Jun 26 12:30
schestowitzRob Weir has been making snide remarks at LOJun 26 12:33
schestowitzFor a while now, since the startJun 26 12:33
schestowitzEven PJ whom he relied on helped LOJun 26 12:33
schestowitzDr. Sutor kept mostly quietJun 26 12:33
schestowitzHe's busy with some rubbish iHype and "cloud" BSJun 26 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Zorin OS 6 Review http://ur1.ca/9kc1y #gnu #linuxJun 26 12:34
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schestowitzDriving IBM's "Linux and open source" into some unspecified territoriesJun 26 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Four Big Battles for EU Openness Happening Now - http://bit.ly/MRO4tu busy: #ACTA, #swpats, #openstandards, #openaccessJun 26 12:35
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iophkWhen Oracle took over, I was concerned that it would be clueless about its new assets, which it has proven to be,  I also saw that IBM was about the only contributor, but didn't suspect that it would up and hijack the code base as you seem to point out is happening.Jun 26 12:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux Setup - Chris, Open Source Developer http://ur1.ca/9khx7 #linux #gnuJun 26 12:39
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schestowitziophk: what can be done about it now?Jun 26 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ulteo is still around http://ur1.ca/9khyb #gnu #linuxJun 26 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We are looking for someone in the United Arab Emirates who can run #Tor and test a few things for us. Please email help@rt.torproject.orgJun 26 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kernellog2/@kernellog2] Coming in 3.5 (#1): Networking http://ur1.ca/9khyr #linux #kernel #network #drivers #codel #bufferbloat #EarlyRetransmit #tokenringJun 26 12:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kernel Log: Coming in 3.5 (Part 1) - Networking - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 55.21 KBJun 26 12:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Debian Wheezy #GNU #kFreeBSD : Slower Than #Linux http://ur1.ca/9khyv interesting and rare benchmarkJun 26 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Tatjana Kron http://ur1.ca/9khz6Jun 26 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mageia 2: smooth upgrade http://ur1.ca/9khza #mandriva #gnu #linuxJun 26 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Just updated !fsfe 's audio section http://ur1.ca/9khzb with the radio panel discussion about !freesoftware (German)Jun 26 12:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Asus Transformer Prime http://ur1.ca/9ki34 #asus #linuxJun 26 13:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Judge Posner: "No more can Apple be permitted to force a trial in Federal Court the sole outcome of which would be an award of $1."Jun 26 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hulu Plus Android app tweaked for 7-inch, high res screens, officially supports more devices http://ur1.ca/9ki4q #linux #androidJun 26 13:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hulu Plus Android app tweaked for 7-inch, high res screens, officially supports more devices -- Engadget .::. Size~: 90.72 KBJun 26 13:07
schestowitz"I'd buy this before anything made by Apple!" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747600Jun 26 13:08
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Asus Transformer Prime http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/asus-transformer-prime #asus #linuxJun 26 13:08
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schestowitzApple makes stuff?!Jun 26 13:09
MinceRyes: hot air.Jun 26 13:11
MinceRgeekingsJun 26 13:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747485Jun 26 13:11
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Outcry as Iraq moves to close 44 media orgs **Press freedom advocates cry foul as authorities announce closure of dozens of media outlets.**     ![photo: Iraqi newpapers](http://gdb.rferl.org/EC348771-0F9C-4F7B-AD43-0A1DCDD76F14_mw800_s.jpg)            [Kristin Deasy/globalpost.com](http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/iraq/120623/outcry-iraq-moves-close-44-media-orgs)      Iraqi Jun 26 13:11
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schestowitz"Yes, as far as information goes, you have to shut down the competition. After all, the truth might get out! Looks like the puppet government are doing their job."Jun 26 13:12
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schestowitz[10:35] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone changed the meaning of "smartphone" from "PDA/phone" to "featurephone with a touchscreen"'~MinceR@ #techrightsJun 26 13:12
schestowitz[10:35] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'in five years, the hypePhone made a phone that doesn't really work as a phone acceptable"' ~MinceR@ #techrights (copy&paste? Meh!)Jun 26 13:12
MinceRi saw themJun 26 13:13
MinceR:)Jun 26 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] PureOS 5.0 Released, Incorporates GIMP 2.8 http://ur1.ca/9kb6v #gimp #gnu #linuxJun 26 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 Best Android/Linux Tablets That Rival The New Foxconn tablet with tripled price (badged iPad '3') http://ur1.ca/9ki7bJun 26 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 30 #Linux Kernel Developers in 30 Weeks: Sarah Sharp http://ur1.ca/9khc2 no stereotypical (and mythical) #unix beardJun 26 13:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 30 Linux Kernel Developers in 30 Weeks: Sarah Sharp | Linux.com .::. Size~: 41.01 KBJun 26 13:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright - http://bit.ly/KKfhQ9 more monopoliesJun 26 13:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright | Techdirt .::. Size~: 44.16 KBJun 26 13:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Linux Kernel 3.4.4 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9ki8bJun 26 13:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Kernel 3.4.4 Is Available for Download - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.6 KBJun 26 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Beta Of #Krita 2.5 Now Available For Testing http://ur1.ca/9ki8j #kdeJun 26 13:30
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94928298Jun 26 13:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Aurélien (gnuteck)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 12:30:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz the !linuxlibre version of the 3.4.4 is already avalaible at !fsfla and fscorsica.org free !Debian also avalaible on !ParabolaJun 26 13:36
schestowitzMinceR: http://youtu.be/8Eam-z1bwrkJun 26 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] Alright, let's see whether slideshare works for me: http://is.gd/bbYVQVJun 26 13:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Valve Picks Up Steam With Influence From Larabel http://ur1.ca/9kibx #valve #linux #phoronixJun 26 13:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1746971Jun 26 13:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate monster (industry in the US) will extend two iron arms this year and ask us which one we want, Left or Right?Jun 26 13:50
schestowitz"...and own both of them!"Jun 26 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Winning BIG on #ACTA and Beyond! - http://bit.ly/Ld43QS "The ACTA debate could mark the beginning of a new era"Jun 26 13:50
schestowitziophk: : https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747304Jun 26 13:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Winning BIG on ACTA and Beyond! | La Quadrature du Net .::. Size~: 28.89 KBJun 26 13:50
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "N9 running [Linux-based] MeeGo... consistently been rated as... better than the iPhone. " http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/what-happens-now-to-nokia-lumia-and-windows-phone-after-microsoft-throws-nokia-under-the-bus.html #mole #elopJun 26 13:50
schestowitzSuch a sad story...Jun 26 13:50
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schestowitzThey had it coming when the mole announced the "let's jump the burning platform" strategy bullshit. It was so obvious...Jun 26 13:50
schestowitzSad to see Nokia die such a ridiculuos death.Jun 26 13:51
schestowitzHopefully, other companies will think twice before making similar deals with M$...Jun 26 13:51
schestowitz"Jun 26 13:51
iophkNokia didn't just get suckered into a deal with M$, they got a mole who brought in more moles.Jun 26 13:51
iophkSimilar happened to Yahoo!Jun 26 13:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] György Ligeti: Complete Chronological Catalogue & Études Mix - http://bit.ly/NHFNtg fab stuff - one of my favourite composers #spotifyJun 26 13:52
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iophkschestowitz: diaspora links don't work on any of my browsers on any platform. :(Jun 26 13:52
schestowitzowser compliance is the ****Jun 26 13:53
schestowitz*it's b*Jun 26 13:53
schestowitz*its browser complianceJun 26 13:53
schestowitzmy keystrokes got chmped thereJun 26 13:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Giving the code away http://ur1.ca/9kicj it's not physical property, it's knowledge. It can be shared.Jun 26 13:55
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MinceRiophk: they seem to work in firefox 7.0 if joindiaspora.com and cloudfront.net are allowed to run scriptsJun 26 13:57
formic_schestowitz: I am a computer. Stop all the downloading.Jun 26 13:57
iophkMinceR: lame.  Why can't they use plain HTML+CSS?Jun 26 13:58
iophkAbout ACTA, the negative recommendations can (and might be) overridden when it comes to the actual vote in a few weeks.Jun 26 13:58
schestowitzthey want more featuresJun 26 13:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] French government contract for open source http://ur1.ca/9jwb9 all governments should give FLOSS preference (local industry)Jun 26 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ORG Reaction: Ofcom DEA code will lead to wrongful court cases - http://bit.ly/M03VZb "Grounds for appeal have been narrowed" #deactJun 26 13:59
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MinceRiophk: because they don't understand the webJun 26 13:59
iophkIt's not like web is a new technology any more.Jun 26 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Did someone test if !fsfe is also filtered out by #Microsoft? OUr donate page: http://fsfe.org/donate and /join http://ur1.ca/9jz3bJun 26 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @Jannemans: RT @aral: …or you can fax Karel De Gucht your thoughts on #ACTA, because he's all hip like that: (+32) 02 29 80899Jun 26 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] C'mon #Nokia, will you fire the Elop mole already? http://ur1.ca/9kh23Jun 26 14:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mathematicians in France Use #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/9kids they can think, thus they can make informed fdecisionsJun 26 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The cracks spread: Why News Corporation’s rumored split isn’t a surprise - http://tnw.co/LyHM2v good, plausible anlaysis #publishingJun 26 14:04
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schestowitzDon't worry, be happy https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1745926Jun 26 14:05
TechrightsBot-tr@blindsite@calispora.org: #health #emotions #spirituality #mindbodyspiritJun 26 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Direct Costs from Patent Troll Disputes - http://bit.ly/M059nc "We estimate that firms accrued $29 billion of direct costs in 2011"Jun 26 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Netflix open sources Asgard cloud deployment smarts - http://bit.ly/MX4e1a more #opensource scaling goodnessJun 26 14:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MIT’s new software can detect your vital signs with just video camera - http://tnw.co/MPmrjl why are you embarrassed by this news? #pirvacyJun 26 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZorinOS 6 Core preview http://ur1.ca/9kifp http://ur1.ca/9kifq #gnu #linuxJun 26 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Gives MPAA Full Access To #TPP Text, But Still Won't Share With Senate Staffers - http://bit.ly/MqG2qW don't even as 4 the publicJun 26 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Europe's cultural sector is something to be proud of: my speech to #openculture12 http:/ http://p.ost.im/p/e3Ax2FJun 26 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @publictorsten: @Volker_Beck Auch ein Thema: Homophobie im IT-Sektor und das Coming-Out eines der promin http://p.ost.im/p/e3Js4jJun 26 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Una agricultora llamada Chris reescribe las reglas de la economía, por @NeelieKroesEU http://p.ost.im/p/e3FvJDJun 26 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Some governments yet to appoint #digitalchampions - they're missing out! http://t.co/hgm http://p.ost.im/p/e3DNmrJun 26 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @BrusselsGeek: Only part of the Robert Madelin interview up. More to follow on #cloud http://t.co/xyVIrB http://p.ost.im/p/e3LmDdJun 26 14:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: Yesterday national #digitalchampions met for the 1st time in Bxl: http://t.co/hgmFLXwZ # http://p.ost.im/p/e3DrSuJun 26 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Calligra 2.5 Beta Released http://ur1.ca/9kign #kdeJun 26 14:19
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schestowitz"but Linux runs comparatively well on bad machines" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747018Jun 26 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux  http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/linux-growth/  #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Internet piracy appeal fee challenged by Consumer Focus - http://bbc.in/LNuyxh bravi (v @SaskiaWalzel @copyrightgirl) #deactJun 26 14:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Religion and children [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9kih6 #humor #religion #newJun 26 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Galaxy S3 Ubuntu installation possible, if you got the urge for some Linux http://ur1.ca/9kihf making powerful phones actually usableJun 26 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New #GM industry push in the UK - http://bit.ly/MPgKnp more weak reporting by #BBCJun 26 14:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A shot of Samsung Galaxy S3 running #Ubuntu http://ur1.ca/9kihx #linuxJun 26 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @glynmoody New #GM industry push in the UK - http://bit.ly/MPgKnp more weak reporting by #BBCJun 26 14:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It's not unusual for the #msbbc to give #GMO (nature monopolies) mouthpieces a platform http://ur1.ca/0l524 //cc @glynmoody @gmwatchJun 26 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gnome 3.5.3 Will Bring Great Improvements http://ur1.ca/9kik5 #gnu #gnomeJun 26 14:35
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iophkhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbookJun 26 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] NPG's Scientific Reports introduces #CC BY as an option for authors: http://www.nature.com/press_releases/cc-by.html #openaccessJun 26 14:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Najwyraźniej Warszawski Hackerspace @hackerspacepl jest już zarejestrowanym stowarzyszeniem. :)Jun 26 14:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Simply Ignore Any Rejection Of #ACTA By European Parliament Next Week - http://bit.ly/OkJGpjJun 26 14:42
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iophkWe'll see how long Asus is allowed to try Linux this time.Jun 26 14:43
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iophk"This implicitly confirms that the referral was simply a way to buy time, rather than an honest question about ACTA's legality."Jun 26 14:49
iophkThe Asus netbook has rather low resolution.Jun 26 14:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A mobile built of heavy machines. Stunning #MachinePorn  via +Jasmin Kassner - http://youtu.be/eN5Dho8YlzM http://... http://b1t.it/bFSQJun 26 15:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright http://identi.ca/url/72469184Jun 26 15:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 26/6/2012: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 is Coming http://ur1.ca/9kirw #techrightsJun 26 15:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The White House Wants To Hear From You Concerning Its Strategy For Intellectual Property Enforcement http://identi.ca/url/72469310Jun 26 15:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU #lobbyist register gives incomplete picture - http://bit.ly/M0kJPM "60 percent of companies lobbying to get #ACTA ratified missing" oh?Jun 26 15:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@wikileaks "Assange a high-tech terrorist," said Joe Biden. "Now excuse me, I have to use a flying robot to bomb a wedding from 40k feet."Jun 26 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Conflicts of interest still evident on new ESFA expert panels - http://bit.ly/M0mJYk #syngenta, #monsanto etc. of course...Jun 26 15:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻@wikileaks "Assange a high-tech terrorist," said Joe Biden. "Now excuse me, I have to use a flying robot to bomb a wedding from 40k feet."Jun 26 15:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747018Jun 26 15:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Vista8 Will Drive More OEMs to GNU/Linux  http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/linux-growth/  #microsoft #intel #gnu #linuxJun 26 15:38
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schestowitz"It sure does, but when the hardware dies after a few years, it just creates more garbage. I have two HP laptops from ten years ago that do not work at all. They can't be repaired, refurbished, recycled or reused. It's not very sustainable when the battery dies, the hard drive crashes, the processor melts off the board, the casing breaks and the video card's solder joints crack. I'm sure both of those laptops made HP plenty of money in Jun 26 15:38
schestowitzthe short term, but in the long term they're bad for the environment. So I really don't care if these OEMs get screwed by Microsoft."Jun 26 15:38
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94931362Jun 26 15:39
TechrightsBot-tr@Sander (sandersch)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 14:36:19 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I hope he doesn't himself. He might hit my house :-(Jun 26 15:39
schestowitzThere's carpet-bombing only in nations full of "brown people" (Carlin's term), so collateral damage involved 'low-value' people, aka "terrorists"Jun 26 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Belluzzo killed SGI (http://ur1.ca/9kj05) & so will Elop Nokia & like Belluzzo, Elop will join MSFT. Sigh. #inJun 26 15:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Firefox for Android may become your favorite mobile browser (ars technica) http://ur1.ca/9kj1dJun 26 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Developer profiles: Sarah Sharp and Thomas Gleixner (Linux.com) http://ur1.ca/9kj36Jun 26 16:00
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iophkNokia shareholders have a big job before them.  Not only did the board hire a belluzzo, they kept him in.  However, nothing at this point is likely to save Nokia from insolvency.Jun 26 16:06
iophkhttp://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-25/nokia-drops-on-microsoft-system-decision-helsinki-moverJun 26 16:11
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iophkhttp://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/06/26/2-star-stocks-poised-to-plunge-nokia/Jun 26 16:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Charles-H. Schulz Speaks About Mandriva, http://ur1.ca/1t8w2, and LibreOffice http://ur1.ca/9kj7u #tdf #odf #ibm #ooo #libreoffice #mandrivaJun 26 16:19
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gnufreexschestowitz: What's the story on Sony Ericsson and Huawei? I mean about their Android phones. Are they taxed by M$?Jun 26 16:35
gnufreexschestowitz: And also AlcatelJun 26 16:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @fontana @bkuhn BTW it is !disturbing that you use HRspeak term "PTO"Jun 26 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Myth Dispensing: The Whole 'Spotify Barely Pays Artists' Story Is Bunk - http://bit.ly/M0A8zu another one bites the dust #fudJun 26 16:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody The Direct Costs from Patent Troll Disputes - http://bit.ly/M059nc "We estimate that firms accrued $29 billion of direct c ...Jun 26 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Written in a different time but quite apt for today. "I remember the newspapers dying like huge moths."Jun 26 16:49
formic_<3 LGJun 26 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Plenty of cool artwork in progress for Liberated Pixel Cup http://ur1.ca/9fkc7 Only a few days left in the art contest! http://ur1.ca/8swpkJun 26 16:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747304Jun 26 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "N9 running [Linux-based] MeeGo... consistently been rated as... better than the iPhone. " http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/06/what-happens-now-to-nokia-lumia-and-windows-phone-after-microsoft-throws-nokia-under-the-bus.html #mole #elopJun 26 17:29
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schestowitz"Yes, it was like "let's jump from the burning platform... now I've thrown a match in the oilwell.""Jun 26 17:30
iophkThe share holders need to face up to the grim fact that the board brought in a belluzzo an have kept him despite all factors pointing to requiring his expulsion and/or fining.Jun 26 17:39
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koolhead17hi allJun 26 17:53
schestowitzhi koolhead17Jun 26 17:54
koolhead17schestowitz, long time. how are you buddy?Jun 26 17:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2012/06/24/changsan-sells-out-in-guwahati/Jun 26 17:54
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koolhead17jono, pingJun 26 17:54
schestowitzkoolhead17: my connection has spoiled the past 4 days, but I think it's fixed for good nowJun 26 17:55
koolhead17schestowitz, the guy heading the depratment been kicked.replaced :(Jun 26 17:55
schestowitzThe landline was affected alsoJun 26 17:55
koolhead17ooh okJun 26 17:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Next week is going to be tough. Expect (and ignore ;-) some depressed posts from me. This is just a fair warning.Jun 26 17:59
schestowitzSome Ubuntu apologists annoy meJun 26 17:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1742273Jun 26 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu 12.10 Prepares To Improve Linux Performance http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210_ups&num=1 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 17:59
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schestowitz"Jun 26 17:59
schestowitzYou've just made my argument, and that's why the legend of the "Challenged Chicken" exists.Jun 26 17:59
schestowitzWhen the whole thing we call now call an OS was essentially mostly a kernel (back in the 90's), the word "linux" might have been appropos. We're not the 90's and the word now means a kernel. Time to move on and drop the L word.Jun 26 17:59
schestowitzThe article isn't about kernel tuning. It's about tuning an entire system.Jun 26 17:59
schestowitz"Jun 26 17:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747293 "The author does a pretty good job avoiding the L word."Jun 26 18:00
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Unity: Making the desktop seriously efficient again http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntu-unity-making-the-desktop-seriously-efficient-again/3701 #unity #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 18:00
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schestowitzTHis guy is high up in UbuntuJun 26 18:00
schestowitzand he's worjking hard to stop people using the L wordJun 26 18:00
schestowitzJust using the Ubuntu\{tm} nameJun 26 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jonobacon/@jonobacon] About to do a live video tutorial about testing your Ubuntu app - watch live at http://is.gd/oa5ieZ #ubuntuJun 26 18:00
schestowitzIt sickens meJun 26 18:00
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schestowitzAnd others there are also annoyed at himJun 26 18:00
schestowitzjono: why does he do this? He pisses people off, it's not helpingJun 26 18:01
formic_ubuntu isn't linuxJun 26 18:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Tune in! Starting now: @EFF Fellow Jason Schultz (@lawgeek) talks about kids and online #privacy https://eff.org/r.a9dKJun 26 18:07
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schestowitza truck is a car?Jun 26 18:07
formic_nopeJun 26 18:07
formic_a truck shares a lot of the same mechanics but they are fundamentally different and have several differing usesJun 26 18:08
formic_if i owned the linux trademark i wouldnt let ubuntu use itJun 26 18:08
formic_damaging to the nameJun 26 18:08
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sebsebsebhiJun 26 18:08
koolhead17sebsebseb, holaJun 26 18:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Apple deixa cair imunidade dos Macs - Tecnologia - Sol http://goo.gl/87kVd - se a religião assim o afirma!!! ;)Jun 26 18:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Greenpeace Parody Site Censored Using #Copyright Infringement Claim - http://bit.ly/LNag5s taste of things to come if #ACTA/#TPP passJun 26 18:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Has Creative Commons changed your life? Enter @ShareableDesign Storytelling Contest for $1000 sharing service credit http://ow.ly/bdzavJun 26 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Beyond the Beagle: Seven Open Source Board Projects that Count bit.ly/Or1394Jun 26 18:24
MinceRformic_: "Ubuntu® -- Like GNU/Linux, Only Worse™"?Jun 26 18:25
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formic_"Ubuntu® -- Like GNU plus Linux™, Only Worse™"?Jun 26 18:26
formic_Linux is a trademark tooJun 26 18:26
formic_If Linus really hated the FSF, he could shut down the whole GNU prefix thing anytime by enforcing his rights.Jun 26 18:27
formic_except in CanadaJun 26 18:27
MinceRExcept in Nebraska!Jun 26 18:28
formic_where Linux is a registered trademark for a swiss company that sells fabric softner and laundry detergentsJun 26 18:28
MinceRyes, he could shut down the whole Linux postfix thing anytimeJun 26 18:28
formic_http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/vwTrdmrk.do?lang=eng&status=OK&fileNumber=1212035&extension=0&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1Jun 26 18:28
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formic_yeah but Linus isn't a jerkJun 26 18:28
fewtWhat's wrong with Ubuntu?Jun 26 18:30
fewtXDJun 26 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] http://ur1.ca/tch names #linux 5 times in the front page. Also states: "We fight for software freedom" (except #UEFI *eyeroll*)Jun 26 18:30
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formic_its UbuntuJun 26 18:31
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formic_http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UbuntuJun 26 18:34
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formic_A little known fact of the development process involves the use of "numbers stations", shortwave radio stations commonly thought to be used by spies speaking in code, but these are actually Ubuntu developers planning what to hose next.Jun 26 18:39
formic_For example, 1, 5, 7, 7,4, 7, 8, 3, 9, 2, 5, 4, 4, 1 = Let's royally fuck his webcam and make Pulseaudio go apeshit on resume from suspend, then when he reboots, hang the system forcing a hard reset.Jun 26 18:39
fewtformic_ I agreeJun 26 18:40
fewt(about Ubuntu)Jun 26 18:40
formic_Ubuntu is always first and foremost guided by the Code of Conduct, a religious document written by L. Ron Shuttleworth, that depicts a Galactic Confederation, led by the Dark Lord Gatesu, who brought UNIX users to Earth in space planes that looked like DC-9 aircraft...Jun 26 18:40
fewtWow, you think more highly of Mark than most of the rest of us. XDJun 26 18:40
formic_lolJun 26 18:40
fewt;)Jun 26 18:41
formic_uncyclopediaJun 26 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Tuesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/9kk1sJun 26 18:45
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748123Jun 26 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Charles-H. Schulz Speaks About Mandriva, Openoffice.org, and LibreOffice http://techrights.org/2012/06/26/mandriva-openoffice-and-libreoffice/ #tdf #odf #ibm #ooo #libreoffice #mandrivaJun 26 18:50
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schestowitz"LOL! I was a little bit confused until i realized that the creator of the "Peanuts"-Cartoons is Charles M. Schulz. ;-)"Jun 26 18:50
XFaCEschestowitz: I can't get a job at The Young Turks ;)Jun 26 18:50
XFaCEschestowitz: "Thank you for your interest in the position however unfortunately we need the people who fill these positions to be residents of the continental United States."Jun 26 18:51
XFaCEI know what to doJun 26 18:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 18:51
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:51
schestowitzAnd in 10 minutes one of those guys is going to comment how that is not helping the cause to whine about them not mentioning their roots. You all know who Im talking about.Jun 26 18:51
schestowitzGetting aggressive about it. I dont know why.Jun 26 18:51
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 18:51
XFaCEDiablo-D3: You need to smuggle me into the USJun 26 18:51
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:51
schestowitzXFaCE: haJun 26 18:51
XFaCEschestowitz: This complicates my plan significantlyJun 26 18:51
schestowitz"did they forget "Linux for human beings"?"Jun 26 18:52
schestowitz"they're really denying their roots, #AlanTuring not mentioned either :P"Jun 26 18:52
XFaCEschestowitz: To make a Techrights and officeial segment of TYTJun 26 18:52
XFaCElolJun 26 18:52
schestowitz"I'm pretty sure at this point, Canonical is both dumb and evil."Jun 26 18:52
schestowitz"/usr/share and that; I believe, is creating all this negativity in the gnu circles towards the ubuntu project. Theres countless hours of work that have been done to get gnu and linux this far and now that one of the players might have the meanst to get the masses to use their software they pull the ruck under the gnu and linux enthusiasts. For me, its not right."Jun 26 18:52
schestowitzXFaCE: i wish..Jun 26 18:53
fewtI think we all need to build a next gen set of command line tools and GUI using C#Jun 26 18:53
schestowitz]"To take so much from upstream (there would have never been a "ubuntu" without them), and not even mention it..."Jun 26 18:53
*fewt jokesJun 26 18:53
schestowitz"I strongly prefer the world not adapt a corrupted version of gnulinux. If you look at some of Marc Shuttleworth's more controversial blog posts such as his attitude toward the Gnome community, IMO, he starts looking a lot like Larry Ellison."Jun 26 18:53
XFaCEfewt: See? Look athte improvement. The amount of time needed to process goes up!Jun 26 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LCA2013 opens call for sponsors http://ur1.ca/9kk33Jun 26 18:54
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XFaCEfewt: Bigger nunmbers are better right?Jun 26 18:54
Diablo-D3[01:51:20] <XFaCE> Diablo-D3: You need to smuggle me into the USJun 26 18:54
fewtyesJun 26 18:54
Diablo-D3fuck youJun 26 18:54
fewtbigger numbers are always betterJun 26 18:54
Diablo-D3I dont want to be tasered by the policeJun 26 18:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: A joke dudeJun 26 18:54
Diablo-D3tasers are not a laughing matterJun 26 18:54
XFaCEI sent a resume to the young turks about the internships they were offeringJun 26 18:54
schestowitzMandriva did a fine job delivering gnu and linux before Canonical even existed, so one common apologists' line does not apply.Jun 26 18:54
Diablo-D3they are a leathal weapon and are banned by the geneva conventionJun 26 18:54
XFaCEDiablo-D3: AbsolutelyJun 26 18:55
XFaCEDiablo-D3: People initally thought they were phasers, another "Trek tech" come to lifeJun 26 18:55
fewtUbuntu is a lethal weapon banned by the geneva conventionJun 26 18:55
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:55
schestowitzRyuken: "Fighting for "GNU" and "Linux" naming is like. Person with name "Sean" wants to be called "seen" and not "Shawn". Semantic and ego stuff is not productive at all."Jun 26 18:55
schestowitzMe: If that were true, then the people fighting against the use of the GNU and Linux names would not be working so hard to erase the name of their sources. This is purely about trying to take credit for the work of others, trying to make one's own work look better at the expense of those whose work is foundational. Jun 26 18:55
XFaCEDiablo-D3: They are disaterousJun 26 18:55
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:55
fewtit causes facepalms with so much force that people dieJun 26 18:55
fewttrue storyJun 26 18:55
fewthahJun 26 18:55
XFaCEDiablo-D3: Unfortunately, "Don't tase me bro" became a funny memeJun 26 18:56
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:56
schestowitzUbuntu is still an open source operating system, and all of their new software (Unity, Software Center...) is free.Jun 26 18:56
schestowitzAnd yeah, Ubuntu still shows "with Linux x.xx.xx" in the bootloader, the kernel package is still called "linux"... The point of hiding the word "Linux" on their websites is just in avoiding all the bad stereotypes surrounding Linux.Jun 26 18:56
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:56
MinceRfewt: why not build that next gen set of command line tools and GUI on Malbolge instead?Jun 26 18:56
scientes"avoiding all the bad stereotypes surrounding Linux."Jun 26 18:57
scienteswhat a load of bull-shitJun 26 18:57
scientesFUDJun 26 18:57
fewtMinceR - use Visual Studio and run them in MonoJun 26 18:57
schestowitz"@Ryuken Ishida: as i said, Mint is based on Ubuntu, approx. 95% of the code is identical i guess. My search for help on IRC wasn't Mint specific, so i thought the users in the Ubuntu-Channel could give me some hints. And i bet they could - but they didn't want to."Jun 26 18:57
schestowitz"If your questeion is not Mint specific but say DesktopEnvironment then you can always get generalized support from Ubuntu forums. I have personally helped people on "Desktop environment" category who are using ubuntu derivatives. I guess there is also forum for that. If people are going to mention "Mint" then surely many folks will ignore the thread because package specific help can't be expected from ubuntu forums and why? Doesn't Jun 26 18:57
schestowitzdistro like Mint has forums or IRC? If not then they should have it. Isn't it?"Jun 26 18:57
MinceRfewt: and wonder why it doesn't work? :>Jun 26 18:57
scientes"approx. 95% of the code is identical i guess. "Jun 26 18:57
fewtMinceR yesJun 26 18:57
fewtand rage on the internets about itJun 26 18:57
scientesmore like 99.9%Jun 26 18:57
MinceRfewt: niceJun 26 18:57
fewt:DJun 26 18:57
MinceRfewt: call it RaegOSJun 26 18:58
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:58
schestowitzWhile mentioning the roots is a nice thing to do, "GNU" and "Linux" don't make a lot of good as marketing terms.Jun 26 18:58
schestowitzHere is an example: we have a user who has heard once about "Linux" in the context of a hard-to-use operating system. Hearing that Ubuntu is based on Linux, he may actually lose interest in that OS.Jun 26 18:58
schestowitzSome developers may also be alienated by hearing "Linux", especially commercial software developers (who may think no one will accept their new proprietary program on Linux OSes).Jun 26 18:58
fewtoh shi- RaegOSJun 26 18:58
schestowitzThe same reason is why Apple never says Mac OS is based on UNIX™ (so much, it's in fact a licensed UNIX™ OS!).Jun 26 18:58
schestowitzshow moreJun 26 18:58
schestowitz32 minutes agoJun 26 18:58
schestowitz"Jun 26 18:58
scienteslolJun 26 18:58
schestowitz"It seems to me that the Ubuntu-Community is on the way to become a kind of gated community like facebook. Time ago i had some issues with Linux Mint, a derivate of Ubuntu built very closely to it. When i mentioned Mint in the Ubuntu-Help-Channel on IRC they just briefly told me "EOS" - end of support."Jun 26 18:58
scientesapple is ALWAYS saying that it is UNIXJun 26 18:58
schestowitz"I personally found out that usage of Linux and GNU names is not that important for end users. I am more concerened about GNU and linux being attacked by MS and Apple these days."Jun 26 18:59
fewtOn the bright side, many people falling into that same scenario aren't associating Ubuntu with Linux - so their terrible Ubuntu experience isn't hurting us.Jun 26 18:59
fewt:DJun 26 18:59
MinceRm$ should respond "oh yeah? well, windows is VMS!"Jun 26 18:59
XFaCEschestowitz: Seems like a lot of "missing the point" is going around latelyJun 26 18:59
scientesesp re supportJun 26 19:00
MinceRwait, ubuntu has support on IRC?Jun 26 19:00
MinceRthat's a well kept secretJun 26 19:00
scientesMinceR, if you install an irc client it says "ubuntu channel"Jun 26 19:00
scientesnd you double click and you are in the support channelJun 26 19:00
schestowitz"Jun 26 19:01
XFaCEscientes: Wehn you go to the Arch website, you find helpJun 26 19:01
schestowitzI agree, that's very weird. I'm not sure mentioning GNU is critical (it's a core component, not the OS family name and is implicitly expected in every conventional Linux), but Linux name for sure should be mentioned.Jun 26 19:01
schestowitzNothing is said even on this page! http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-is-it-freeJun 26 19:01
schestowitzOnly digging much further (here: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian ) one can find Linux, GNU and Debian actually mentioned. Most users won't dig that far. It's a shame Canonical makes such lame PR to hide the fact that Ubuntu is Linux.Jun 26 19:01
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iophkschestowitz: "Here is an example: we have a user who has heard once about "Linux" in the context of a hard-to-use operating system."  — Or it can work the other way.  Users try Ubuntu and realize that Bill was wrong about it being hard to use, then they stop taking Bill's talking points at face value and start exploring FOSS technologies in earnest.  I've seen it happen multiple times.  Jun 26 19:02
fewtLet me spin thatJun 26 19:03
fewtHere is an example: we have a user who has heard once about "Ubuntu" in the context of an unstable operating system."  — Or it can work the other way.  Users try Linux and realize that Bill was wrong about it being hard to use, then they stop taking Bill's talking points at face value and start exploring FOSS technologies in earnest.  I've seen it happen multiple times. Jun 26 19:03
fewtspun, enjoy :)Jun 26 19:04
MinceR:)Jun 26 19:04
XFaCENsapJun 26 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tories looking to scrape lost tax revenue could make a HUGE dent by closing loopholes their rich mates exploit on an industrial scaleJun 26 19:05
XFaCEvJun 26 19:07
XFaCE[14:04] -TRIdentica/#techrights- [thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Tories looking to scrape lost tax revenue could make a HUGE dent by closing loopholes their rich mates exploit on an industrial scaleJun 26 19:07
XFaCEmWhat's funny, si that could apply to Canada exactlyJun 26 19:07
XFaCEno rewording requiredJun 26 19:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #CloeSmithMP another shining example of why people have given up on #politics - shady, slimey, evasive, bullshittingJun 26 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Vizio’s Co-Star: $99 #GoogleTV box with OnLive gaming support | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/uCkMz #hardwareJun 26 19:09
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schestowitzahJun 26 19:10
schestowitzConservativesJun 26 19:10
schestowitzlike ObamaJun 26 19:10
schestowitzCloset ConservativeJun 26 19:11
MinceRor just a puppet of conservatives :>Jun 26 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Facebook forces all users over to @facebook.com e-mail addresses | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/gRUqj they+apple would be a great marriageJun 26 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Watching #PioneerOne ep. 6. Sitting on the edge of my chair. But srsly, ppl, do something about sound mixing fsckups...Jun 26 19:15
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fewtI checked my FB earlier, it hadn't been changedJun 26 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @nirvanareligion: !ACTA: Karel De Gutch y Marielle Gallo contra la democracia http://t.co/wHz5azXnJun 26 19:20
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fewthad seen some posts from friends who's emails hadJun 26 19:21
fewtI don't think anyone should be surprised considering all of the other privacy they have had to give up to use it.Jun 26 19:21
MinceRindeedJun 26 19:21
MinceRdumbfuckbook forcing changes on users is nothing newJun 26 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Securing supercomputer networks (without disrupting 60Gbps data flows) | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/Bfc9Y #security #supercomputersJun 26 19:22
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748537Jun 26 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] KEI letter to USTR regarding #TPP #copyright provisions - http://bit.ly/Qd2MMm excellent, detailed criticismJun 26 19:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @rsiddharth: Sam Geeraerts announces #gnewsense 3.0 alpha : http://ur1.ca/9kjq2Jun 26 19:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Jonnalagadda: outsource vs open source http://ur1.ca/9kkcxJun 26 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Myth Dispensing: The Whole 'Spotify Barely Pays Artists' Story Is Bunk http://goo.gl/dzlnrJun 26 19:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright http://goo.gl/2hQG5Jun 26 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] How could G+ possibly be a ghost town with +Wil Wheaton and +George Takei filling my timeline? ;-) and now back to wat... http://b1t.it/bFYAJun 26 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hip Hop Artists Developing #OpenSource Beat Making Software - http://bit.ly/LzHV5S groovy, man...or somethingJun 26 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Clubs protestieren gegen #Gema: Fünf Minuten Saturday Night Stille - http://bit.ly/KZZJcn about time, tooJun 26 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Another Coming 3-D Printing IP Nightmare - http://bit.ly/LdUK39 oh yes...Jun 26 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon !identiverse ... it's a balmy 23.2 °C (27 humidex) in my corner of !Canada today (not too hot to write outside!)Jun 26 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Dropbox Bans BitTorrent Startup Boxopus Over Piracy Concerns - http://bit.ly/Mz5tFp what a bunch of corporate wussesJun 26 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb WIPO Is Quietly Signing An Agreement To Give Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Version Of Copyright http://goo.gl/2hQG5Jun 26 19:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 19:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 19:53
schestowitz"Jun 26 19:53
schestowitz@Ryuken Ishida: How many people would see that page? I found it only because I knew what I was looking for, and specifically tried to find it. Most won't see it at all.Jun 26 19:53
schestowitzExample of fair and simple front page:Jun 26 19:53
schestowitzhttp://openindiana.org/Jun 26 19:53
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schestowitz> OpenIndiana is a robust enterprise operating system, based on the illumos kernel.Jun 26 19:53
schestowitzNote - illumos is given credit right there where it's supposed to be.Jun 26 19:53
schestowitzCompare it to Canoical: >Fast, secure and stylishly simple, the Ubuntu operating system is used by 20 million people worldwide every day.Jun 26 19:53
schestowitzIt could say:Jun 26 19:53
schestowitz> Fast, secure and stylishly simple, the Ubuntu oper...Jun 26 19:53
schestowitz"Jun 26 19:53
schestowitz"They could actually say "based on the Debian GNU/linux system", and there you go, all credit given in a few words."Jun 26 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is it a requirement for an art critic to be a genetically inbred half cousin of Tim Nice-But Dim from #HarryEnfield?Jun 26 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Si bien es probable que puedas evitar eso con el plugin de filtros o algoJun 26 19:54
Omegathey want to get users, not promote free software per seJun 26 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Vortex wireless: Terabytes of Wi-Fi is on its way - http://zd.net/KKMsmy ooh, I can't wait #futureJun 26 20:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Mozilla announces Firefox for Android http://ur1.ca/9kki0 #Android #FirefoxJun 26 20:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Opera 12: Not Ready For Prime Time http://ur1.ca/9kkj0 proprietary alsoJun 26 20:05
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formic_they can call it whatever they wantJun 26 20:06
formic_canonical could call it DumbFuckOS if they wantedJun 26 20:07
MinceRbut then they'd have to add facebook integrationJun 26 20:07
formic_lolJun 26 20:08
formic_thanks to unity, ubuntu is just as difference from real linux as androidJun 26 20:08
MinceRperhaps not so much, technicallyJun 26 20:08
formic_real linux being= gnome,kde,lxde,xfce,fluxbox,openbox,etc (except unity which is ubuntu only)Jun 26 20:08
formic_ubuntu has a lot of things ubuntu onlyJun 26 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chromebooks Are Gaining Traction in Schools http://ur1.ca/9kkji #linux #chromeosJun 26 20:09
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MinceRafaik they still have GNU userland including glibc, hidden down there somewhere :>Jun 26 20:09
Omegaformic_: that is simply not trueJun 26 20:09
formic_meh, i'd think it would insult GNU to connect themJun 26 20:09
OmegaI mean at least criticise them on factsJun 26 20:09
formic_Omega, Lenin called, go awayJun 26 20:10
Omega?Jun 26 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @1111aether User consent cannot be assumed. i.e. If I go to a scenetap bar,my estimated age will be collected and aggregated before I ...Jun 26 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is #Microsoft Feeding the #Android Machine? http://ur1.ca/9kig8 "drive more hardware makers into Android's arms."Jun 26 20:10
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schestowitz"Linux needs good PR to improve its adoption. Ubuntu claim they are geared towards that cause, but failing to mention Linux on the front page doesn't fit well with that." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Such is life in the !Identiverse, @satipera. My on-time will more likely coincide with yours tomorrow :) !tzafJun 26 20:14
schestowitzGoogle does the same thing (ChromeOS and Android), but to remove the stagma from GNU and Linux we should not refrain from naming them where they succeed.Jun 26 20:14
scientesschestowitz, except that android doesn't have any GNUJun 26 20:15
scientesnot sure about ChromeOSJun 26 20:15
scientes(xcept for building it, but that is not shipped with it)Jun 26 20:15
iophkGNU has a good reputation and it would be smart to build on that reputation.  However, very recently there has been a concerted effort to marginalize it.  Jun 26 20:16
scientesChromeOS is going to ship coreboot, which is also GPL (LGPL?)Jun 26 20:16
scientesnah GPLJun 26 20:16
scientesiophk, for end-users, indeedJun 26 20:16
schestowitz"What about all the other projects Ubuntu is based on? Isn't X.org just as important as GNU and Linux? What about all the programming languages, like C, C++, Perl, Python - are they really not important enough to deserve credits? I don't think it would be fair to mention GNU and Linux and maybe Debian, but not all the others."Jun 26 20:17
scientesbut at the same time google gifted binutils-gold to FSF, which is interestingJun 26 20:17
scientesand working on split-stack in gcc, which seems pretty bad-assJun 26 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt280 @patrickniedzielski I actually believe most electronic data about you should be purged after a certain time. You should h ...Jun 26 20:17
scientesschestowitz, lol, you should mentioned that C and C++ are mostly gcc/gnu in GNU/Linux systemdJun 26 20:17
scientes*systemsJun 26 20:18
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748731Jun 26 20:22
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schestowitz"Jun 26 20:22
schestowitzDr. Roy SchestowitzJun 26 20:22
schestowitz#YouTube no longer supports the player that #GNU #Gnash depends on?Jun 26 20:22
schestowitzhttps://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?36723Jun 26 20:22
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schestowitz"Jun 26 20:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748724Jun 26 20:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU Parlamentarian Gallo: #ACTA Dissent 'A Soft Form Of #Terrorism' - http://bit.ly/KKOoeR this was inevitableJun 26 20:24
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schestowitz"GNU and Linux never succeeded on their own. Only together with the whole FLOSS community."Jun 26 20:25
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/webopedia-term-of-the-day-what-is-google-play.htmlJun 26 20:25
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schestowitz"Indirectly through Debian. Mentioning Debian Linux would be good enough."Jun 26 20:27
iophkRMS uses the f-word, that scares some people and gets the Microserfs all bent out of shape.Jun 26 20:28
fewtFreebsd?Jun 26 20:28
schestowitzfingerJun 26 20:29
fewtwhoah you should disable that serviceJun 26 20:29
MinceRlolJun 26 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] REVIEW: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS http://ur1.ca/9kkmw #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 26 20:30
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scientesI love fingering all over the placeJun 26 20:32
MinceRthat's what she said.Jun 26 20:33
scientesdoesn't have the same effectiveenss it use to have however, not as many people are turned on these days it seemsJun 26 20:33
schestowitzcan't put my finger on it...Jun 26 20:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748641 "I use to tell it many times to many different people. I myself try to keep it that way all the time."Jun 26 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I live by this #quote  #Einstein #simpleJun 26 20:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747848Jun 26 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Galaxy S3 Ubuntu installation possible, if you got the urge for some Linux http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-ubuntu-installation-linux-97316/ making powerful phones actually usableJun 26 20:35
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schestowitz"@CBiX - you're somewhat right. Nothing can make Windows machine usable. Sometimes even Linux can't make it, because the hardware itself is so crappy and closed."Jun 26 20:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When @RMS uses the word "evil" he gets flak for being "radical"; when Linus gives companies the rectum warning he's hailed as a hero. Weird.Jun 26 20:35
schestowitz"I.e. Linux here would denote the family of contributing projects (GNU, X.org and others), and Debian denotes the primary derivation source for Ubuntu. Again - Canonical can do whatever they want. We are talking about what's more appropriate for Linux benefit in general."Jun 26 20:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 20:37
schestowitz"Now they do it just a little more indirectly though mentioning Ubuntu. Why isn't this good enough?"Jun 26 20:37
schestowitz"GNU is not a "contributor project" to that kernel named Linux, it's a much older project to actually create the whole OS. Now the OS is called by the name of the kernel used... that's also sad."Jun 26 20:37
schestowitzGNU deserves a lot of credit for *kickstarting* the development of a free OS.Jun 26 20:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748618Jun 26 20:39
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #quote #dreamJun 26 20:39
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schestowitz"It's worse than that, ask Linus Torvalds. He is building his dream, which helps millions of people live in software freedom, but that threatens the wealth of some of the world's richest people, so they have hired lots of people to crush his dreams and ours."Jun 26 20:39
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schestowitzany replacement for Dawn as tenant?Jun 26 20:43
fewtWindows is perfectly usable, as long as you don't need things that a UNIX or Linux user takes for granted.  Same with OSX.Jun 26 20:43
schestowitzwhich Windows?Jun 26 20:43
fewtDropping GNU from Linux isn't really sad, GNU is a really bad name.Jun 26 20:43
schestowitzTiles{tm}?Jun 26 20:43
fewt7Jun 26 20:43
fewtnot 8Jun 26 20:43
fewt8 is a messJun 26 20:43
fewtbut it's also not releasedJun 26 20:44
schestowitzGNU is a good nameJun 26 20:44
schestowitzwhat's bad about itJun 26 20:44
schestowitzit's catchy, named like the animal people see in the zoo, just not penguinJun 26 20:44
fewtWell, to be fair GNU isn't so badJun 26 20:44
fewtit's GNU/Linux that is bad IMHOJun 26 20:44
schestowitzyeahJun 26 20:44
schestowitzGNU-Linux may sound betterJun 26 20:45
schestowitzlike when companies mergeJun 26 20:45
schestowitzSony-Ericsson and the likeJun 26 20:45
fewtor a new name, like Ubuntu that is made up of both but uses neither in the name?Jun 26 20:45
fewtI kiddJun 26 20:45
fewtI think Linux is a fine name for a product, it's close to UNIX so it is familiar, but different enough that it isn't confused.Jun 26 20:45
fewtbut then I'm the guy that created the name "Fuduntu"Jun 26 20:46
fewtbut that name is intended to be zanyJun 26 20:46
schestowitz"Because Ubuntu is too narrow for the definition of the Linux world. Linux as a name is broad enough, so all other Distros won't feel offended. And to address the previous comments - GNU is older, but the result came out to be called Linux. GNU never came out with real functional examples of OS besides Linux (i.e. Hurd is not something practically usable). So, Linux does mean GNU+Linux+X.org+Wayland+KDE+Gnome and the rest. It's not the Jun 26 20:46
schestowitzpoint of what was earlier. It's the collective name. Calling these "Ubuntu" - not right. Calling these "GNU""Jun 26 20:46
schestowitzfewt: like Bodhi?Jun 26 20:47
fewtBodhi isn't a bad nameJun 26 20:47
fewtHonestly I don't have any problem with the name UbuntuJun 26 20:47
fewtjust the brandJun 26 20:47
fewt:DJun 26 20:47
fewtI don't like that it hides being a Linux distributionJun 26 20:48
fewtit could even say GNU/Apache/GPL/everything else here+Linux kernel distributionJun 26 20:48
fewtbut whateverJun 26 20:48
fewt:DJun 26 20:48
DaemonFChttp://www.garylsnyder.com/my_weblog/2012/06/colberts-take-on-mourdock.htmlJun 26 20:50
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DaemonFCLOLJun 26 20:50
DaemonFCThe Supreme Court has done what nobody expected today. It announced that Antonin Scalia is just four raccoons in a black garbage bag...Jun 26 20:51
DaemonFCheheJun 26 20:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 71 dents!Jun 26 20:52
schestowitz"But where would GNU be without all those pioneers in computer science? Shouldn't we give credits to them, too?"Jun 26 20:53
schestowitz"One can say, what about Android? I'd say, Android while using the Linux kernel doesn't let itself to be called Linux easily. Why? I think because it was set too much apart from the rest of the Linux world by design."Jun 26 20:53
schestowitz"One can say, what about Android? I'd say, Android while using the Linux kernel doesn't let itself to be called Linux easily. Why? I think because it was set too much apart from the rest of the Linux world by design. If that's where Ubuntu is heading - it's unfortunate. I hope not."Jun 26 20:54
schestowitz"It's a question of the right measure and presentability. Mentioning every contributor on the front page isn't feasible. Using too narrow of a term - isn't fair enough. That's why I said mentioning Debian as a base, and Linux as a kernel could be good enough. My subjective take on this of course."Jun 26 20:54
schestowitzOne can say, what about Android? I'd say, Android while using the Linux kernel doesn't let itself to be called Linux easily. Why? I think because it was set too much apart from the rest of the Linux world by design. If that's where Ubuntu is heading - it's unfortunate. I hope not.Jun 26 20:54
fewtI agree with thatJun 26 20:55
fewtmentioning debian + the Linux kernel would be good enough.Jun 26 20:55
schestowitz"With smart IDs, everyone will be a little German." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748485Jun 26 20:55
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fewtAndroid is a different animalJun 26 20:55
schestowitzfewt: but they don'tJun 26 20:55
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fewtI knowJun 26 20:55
fewtI've complained about that alsoJun 26 20:55
schestowitzYes, android is differentJun 26 20:55
fewtin here I thinkJun 26 20:55
fewt:DJun 26 20:55
schestowitzAndroid's codebase is vastJun 26 20:55
schestowitzthe apps are separateJun 26 20:55
schestowitzand mostly proprietaryJun 26 20:55
fewtwhoah time to drive home. later!Jun 26 20:56
fewt+1 your last comments btwJun 26 20:56
DaemonFCwhat's funny is that Google allows apps for sale in its own store that remove Google ads from other appsJun 26 20:57
schestowitz"Jun 26 20:57
schestowitz@Shmerl, the GNU Project might not have created a complete OS by itself, but it was the kickstarter, as Roy put it, and I don't think there would have been any "linux" without GNU.Jun 26 20:57
schestowitzPeople have a tendency to oversimplify the role of GNU as "some utilities", but it's sooooo much more than that.Jun 26 20:57
schestowitz"Jun 26 20:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 20:57
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 20:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when is a u-turn not a u-turn? when a politician from that party is being asked about it #theyalldoit #voterapathyJun 26 20:57
schestowitzWithout GNU, Linux would never have taken off. Without Linux, GNU would have had time/ambition to finish HURD.Jun 26 20:58
formic_Never say neverJun 26 20:58
schestowitzhehJun 26 20:58
formic_Without GNU you'd be running FreeBSD and have no driversJun 26 20:59
formic_lolJun 26 20:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Internet piracy appeal fee challenged by Consumer Focus http://goo.gl/e8Qo8 another front in the warJun 26 20:59
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formic_a lot of shit would be differentJun 26 21:00
formic_no wikipediaJun 26 21:00
formic_no canonicalJun 26 21:00
formic_no redhat :(Jun 26 21:00
schestowitzno wikipedia?Jun 26 21:00
iophkWhen challenged at the end of his talk at Aalto, Linus Torvalds strongly defended his choice of GPL for the kernel.  It made the thing it has become possible.Jun 26 21:00
schestowitz"They complemented each other. But as I said, the result didn't came out to be called GNU by the masses, but Linux. Either live with it, or write GNU/Linux everywhere, which I consider pointless."Jun 26 21:01
formic_The decision on name falls with the distro creatorJun 26 21:01
MinceRthey'll still be criticized for it if they screw upJun 26 21:02
formic_criticize all you wantJun 26 21:02
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RaccoonJun 26 21:03
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formic_GOD/MincerJun 26 21:03
DaemonFCthey eat whatever they can get, including ripping peoples trash open and scattering it all over the streetJun 26 21:03
formic_considering GOD played a part in your creation, thats your new nameJun 26 21:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] More evidence of a broken patent system: https://eff.org/r.5adS. Join us in making it better at http://ur1.ca/9jk8n. #patentfailJun 26 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Gnome 352 screen casting review :) http://ur1.ca/9kksw #gnome #gnu #linuxJun 26 21:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] GNOME and input method integration http://ur1.ca/9kktjJun 26 21:04
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DaemonFCformic_: Citation NeededJun 26 21:04
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schestowitzformic_: but there's,no GodJun 26 21:04
MinceRformic_: what he said.Jun 26 21:04
MinceRthough "god" as a title is acceptable to me.Jun 26 21:04
schestowitz!google richard stallman russia today no godJun 26 21:05
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MinceRso you can call me "god" if you wish.Jun 26 21:05
DaemonFChey, wait a minute!Jun 26 21:05
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DaemonFCI'm the one that created raccoons!Jun 26 21:05
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DaemonFCand....possumsJun 26 21:05
schestowitzdog is annagram of godJun 26 21:05
MinceRDaemonFC: citation needed.Jun 26 21:05
schestowitzpoor dogs..Jun 26 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Defects at Grand Designs presenter Kevin McCloud's homes http://goo.gl/aLPrQ it has a community alright, of bitter home ownersJun 26 21:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Patent trolls' cost other US bodies $29bn last year, says study http://goo.gl/Xuu6BJun 26 21:05
MinceRschestowitz: poor gods.Jun 26 21:05
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DaemonFCMinceR: I have Original ResearchJun 26 21:05
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formic_Ok GOD/MincerJun 26 21:06
DaemonFCthat's good enough for the other religionsJun 26 21:06
MinceRschestowitz: and the dyslexic agnostic wonders if there's a dog.Jun 26 21:06
schestowitzMinceR: he giveth and takethJun 26 21:06
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schestowitz!google blankfein god's workJun 26 21:06
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TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Lloyd Blankfein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_BlankfeinJun 26 21:06
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Blankfein Says He's Just Doing 'God's Work' - NYTimes.com | http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/goldman-chief-says-he-is-just-doing-gods-work/Jun 26 21:06
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schestowitzGod complexJun 26 21:06
MinceRformic_: the slash is incorrect in this case.Jun 26 21:06
schestowitzGod means many thingsJun 26 21:06
schestowitzIn India isn't it like some half elephant?Jun 26 21:07
schestowitzTo me, God is half upper half pig, bottom part fish, and human rectumJun 26 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] has Nathan Myhrvold even met "an inventor"? http://goo.gl/Xuu6B his company sure as shit don't deal in "inventions" #patenttrollJun 26 21:07
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MinceRman-bear-pigJun 26 21:07
DaemonFCHRAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!Jun 26 21:07
schestowitzYuleJun 26 21:07
DaemonFCHRAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!Jun 26 21:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] News Corp 'warned Lib Dems over BSkyB bid' http://goo.gl/eo292 sounds about rightJun 26 21:09
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schestowitz"Jun 26 21:09
schestowitzGNU does credit earlier work, Florian, but much of it is useless to Ubuntu because it is not free software.Jun 26 21:09
schestowitzI like how the Debian people give credit where credit is due, http://www.debian.org/intro/aboutJun 26 21:09
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schestowitz"Jun 26 21:09
schestowitz"But what's the reason of choosing this two projects? What sets them apart from all the others?"Jun 26 21:09
schestowitz"@Shmerl, the "masses" don't define what's fair or correct. And yes, I write GNU/linux everywhere, because I consider ir fair, and it's my effort to type it. Well, actually, sometimes I just type "GNU", since it's shorter, simpler, and makes more sense to me."Jun 26 21:09
schestowitz"Florian: I think I explained it above. It's the common meaning of the name. Name Linux denotes a whole set of components and aspects when used without context. Name Ubuntu is much narrower. As simple as that."Jun 26 21:09
schestowitz"@Shmerl, the "masses" don't define what's fair or correct. May be not, but the front page address the masses if you didn't notice."Jun 26 21:11
formic_God means many things except for anything that isn't Jesus, our saviourJun 26 21:15
Omegaubuntu is a sellout, they forgot the big picture now only focus on self-preservationJun 26 21:15
formic_Omega - czary!Jun 26 21:15
Omegathey do not try to tell people why free software is importantJun 26 21:15
schestowitzjust seen https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748882Jun 26 21:16
TechrightsBot-tr@whirli@joindiaspora.com: Richard Dawkins vs Cardinal George Pell on Q&A (10-4-2012 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD1QHO_AVZA&html5=True I gave the cardinal a fair chance but around the 11th minute I just facepalmed so hard that I fell of my chair. #atheism #christianity #catholicism #dawkins #religionJun 26 21:16
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MinceRformic_: you need to stuff a few more negations there :>Jun 26 21:16
formic_L Ron Shuttleworth doesnt want to pay any more billsJun 26 21:16
MinceRlolJun 26 21:16
schestowitz"May be not, but the front page address the masses if you didn't notice. And using GNU/Linux out of principle may be fair, but I can't say that using Linux alone is unfair. GNU is implicitly understood. And GNU/Linux is just impractical as a name, sorry." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 21:18
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 21:18
schestowitz"(and I wasn't talking about ubuntu's frontpage, btw)"Jun 26 21:18
schestowitz"GNU is very practical as a name, it's shorter."Jun 26 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] TED talk on !Atheism 2.0 - interesting! bit.ly/OrVA23Jun 26 21:20
schestowitz"But misleading, when talking to people. People will understand when you'll tell them about Linux. They'll have no clue when you'll tell them about GNU. No point to deny it."Jun 26 21:21
gnufreexschestowitz pingJun 26 21:22
schestowitzheyJun 26 21:23
Omegabut I think other projects are doing the same thingJun 26 21:23
Omegait shouldn't be about plugging your nameJun 26 21:23
Omegabut about the movementJun 26 21:23
DaemonFCschestowitz: You notice Blue Systems has Skype in the default Netrunner install now?Jun 26 21:23
DaemonFCthey're the sponsors of Kubuntu nowJun 26 21:23
Omegathat they don't say linux isn't a big deal, but that they forgot the free software movement is the problemJun 26 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PS3 Media Server 1.54.0 Is Available for Download http://ur1.ca/9kkwl #gnu #linuxJun 26 21:24
gnufreexschestowitz: I asked you today about Sony Ericson, Alcatel and Huawei.Jun 26 21:24
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gnufreexschestowitz: About android phones of those companiesJun 26 21:24
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:24
schestowitzI think this usage of "Linux" is just wrong, and GNU/Linux isn't much better.Jun 26 21:24
schestowitzOf course both projects are important, but I don't think they are important enough to be used as the name for the whole ecosystem they are a part of.Jun 26 21:24
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:24
gnufreexDo you know if they are taxed schestowitzJun 26 21:24
schestowitzHuawei spoke to the mafia-gangsters, but no deal signedJun 26 21:24
schestowitzSony is, well.. SonyJun 26 21:25
schestowitzAlcatel uses Red Hat and manned up to the mafia... even sued it... so I bought an Alcatel hponeJun 26 21:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 21:25
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:25
schestowitzOr just use the distribution's name.Jun 26 21:26
schestowitz"Linux people" complain that Ubuntu no longer refernces "linux" on their site... ok, and "linux people" don't reference GNU either. You reap what you sow.Jun 26 21:26
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:26
gnufreexschestowitz: ThanksJun 26 21:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 21:27
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 21:27
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:27
schestowitzNobody will learn if no one starts teaching. The term "Linux" to refer to a complete system is incorrect, however popular. GNU/linux is too long? ok, GNU is shorter.Jun 26 21:27
schestowitzThe term "Linux" does not imply GNU (which you said), otherwise people would understand you if you said "GNU".Jun 26 21:27
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Winning BIG on ACTA and Beyond! http://ur1.ca/9ki0d #acta #euJun 26 21:30
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MinceRoh no, it's longer than 5 characters, that exceeds my attention sp...oooh, shiny!Jun 26 21:31
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyNzIJun 26 21:32
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DaemonFCtrollololololJun 26 21:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Qualcomm debuts Snapdragon SDK for developers http://ur1.ca/9kkyi #android #linuxJun 26 21:32
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schestowitz"You all talk in theory. I talk in practice. Linux is used for that, and will be used. That's it." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 21:34
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 21:34
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Spyware-targets-AutoCAD-files-1625972.htmlJun 26 21:34
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MinceRis that even an argument?Jun 26 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If citizens can demand #facebook provides all the data it collects on self, how come can't be done with #NSA (even tracks your music now)?Jun 26 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Fantastic defence of same-sex marriage. And by a politician! bit.ly/OrZVlIJun 26 21:35
schestowitzMinceR: for some..Jun 26 21:36
MinceRit's even weaker than the trillion flies argumentJun 26 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #nsa knows more about citizens of the world than those citizens know about themselves if a gigabyte a day is collected from each (cheap)Jun 26 21:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The #EU Has Already Broken Up… They Just Haven’t Formalized Yet | ZeroHedge http://goo.gl/M5niO #Schengen #collapseJun 26 21:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Activists are rallying against #TPP's secret negotiations to regulate the Internet. Join them next week in San Diego: http://stoptpp.orgJun 26 21:39
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 21:39
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:39
schestowitzThe people who didn't want to call the system "GNU" will cry when the people, the masses no longer refer to the system as "Linux".Jun 26 21:39
schestowitzI've already seen people who think there is Ubuntu and "variations", "other Ubuntu distributions". Give it time.Jun 26 21:39
schestowitz"Jun 26 21:39
TechrightsBot-trNot a Diaspora post?Jun 26 21:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "apps on the Ubuntu platform" http://ur1.ca/9kl0t "Linux" not mentionedJun 26 21:40
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94925512Jun 26 21:41
TechrightsBot-tr@Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 10:26:24 UTC - Identi.ca: RT @harishpillay Pretty damning analysis of Nokia's flop aka Elop and MS' magic touch of fail. http://ur1.ca/9kh23 #inJun 26 21:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !tzag Evening !Identiverse and yesterday I was on #Crivins with one of the !Mageia founders who also contributes to #Pulseaudio upstream.Jun 26 21:42
gnufreexschestowitz which Alcatel phone you bought ?Jun 26 21:44
DaemonFCas much of your browsing as possible should be done over SSLJun 26 21:44
DaemonFCif you have Flash, block it by defaultJun 26 21:44
DaemonFCuse Adblock Lite and all of the adblock, tracking, and annoyances listsJun 26 21:45
DaemonFChere: https://secure.fanboy.co.nz/Jun 26 21:45
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DaemonFCturn on the Do Not Track preference in the browser (some sites are at least claiming to honor it)Jun 26 21:46
DaemonFCmake the default cookie policy "expire when I close Firefox", you can override this on a per-site basis (I do this to keep my preferences for Startpage and DuckDuckGo)Jun 26 21:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: why did #phoronix take this blog posthttp://ppenz.blogspot.nl/2012/06/dolphin-21.html and thurn it into an insulting headline? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyNzI #kde still ahead of the restJun 26 21:47
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DaemonFCinstall the Better Privacy Mozilla add-on, and set it to delete all the Flash LSOs when you start or close Firefox, and after 2 hours of one not being accessedJun 26 21:47
DaemonFCinstall HTTPS Everywhere, I use the 3.0 development branch right nowJun 26 21:48
schestowitz"If it'll happen - they'll cry or not cry. Let them decide. So far it's not happening. The question in this thread is in particular about whether Ubuntu's page is appropriate (as of now) or not."Jun 26 21:48
schestowitz"Social factors like naming develop often disregarding what you might consider better."Jun 26 21:48
DaemonFCif I run into problems, I file a bug report and disable the particular ruleJun 26 21:48
DaemonFCnot a big issueJun 26 21:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] why did #phoronix take this blog post http://ur1.ca/9kl1t &turn it into insulting headline? http://ur1.ca/9kl1m #kde still aheadJun 26 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @ravenman If you cannot install "Democracy", please remove "System" !usa !canada !finland !czech !russia !nederland !roffa !love !hat ...Jun 26 21:49
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DaemonFCfiling bug reports on bad rule sets keeps those rule sets from making their way into a stable releaseJun 26 21:49
DaemonFCso the stable branch becomes better for non-technical users that just want to install the stable release and forget about itJun 26 21:49
DaemonFCschestowitz: I'd totally ditch Kubuntu if Debian was ever semi-current with KDEJun 26 21:50
DaemonFCI'm pondering Debian 7 with KDE when they import 4.8.4Jun 26 21:50
DaemonFCit seems to be stable/functionalJun 26 21:50
DaemonFCperformance is goodJun 26 21:50
DaemonFCmight be a good place to dig in for a whileJun 26 21:51
DaemonFCDebian will keep it patched for their life cycleJun 26 21:51
schestowitz"actually, the word "Linux" is mentioned at ubuntu.com/devices and ubuntu.com/community"Jun 26 21:51
DaemonFCuntil the 4.8 series there were still a few outstanding issues that had yet to be dealt with from the 4.x seriesJun 26 21:52
DaemonFCpretty much all the ones I cared about were kwin performance problems / leaks / high CPU usageJun 26 21:52
DaemonFCthere were some work arounds, like disabling the blur and shadow effects, but I like those effects :(Jun 26 21:52
DaemonFCJesus H Christ on Friday!Jun 26 21:55
DaemonFCit's going to be 102 on Thursday!Jun 26 21:55
*DaemonFC installed a second window air conditioner this year but hasn't used that one much yetJun 26 21:56
DaemonFCit's mostly sitting there waiting for days like this ThursdayJun 26 21:56
DaemonFCthose will be pretty common in July/AugustJun 26 21:56
schestowitzhehJun 26 21:56
schestowitzpaid the credit card debt yetJun 26 21:56
schestowitzTV+A/C?Jun 26 21:56
DaemonFCschestowitz: Yes, and all this last couple months I've been using it for my regular bills and paying it all back on timeJun 26 21:57
DaemonFCif I do that I get between 1.5-5% cashback rebates with no interestJun 26 21:57
DaemonFCso they end up paying me to use the cardJun 26 21:57
DaemonFCthat's the only card I didn't cut upJun 26 21:57
DaemonFCno reason to keep cards around if they're not going to give me any incentives for using them and the only thing they do give me is a liability (being that they MAY accrue interest eventually)Jun 26 21:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: Comcast gave me free limited basic cable for as long as I have my cable internetJun 26 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @zoowar Minors can not give consent. Many web sites ignore this fact.Jun 26 21:59
formic_DaemonFC: I thought gays liked 'hot stuff'Jun 26 21:59
DaemonFCblehJun 26 21:59
*DaemonFC has a sunburnJun 26 21:59
formic_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icIwKaci3MIJun 26 22:00
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DaemonFCI was out at an auction all day on SundayJun 26 22:00
DaemonFCI went there with Dave (mom's husband), that way we could just split the cost to register as biddersJun 26 22:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Great project from @hoofnagle: researchers seek hard data about online tracking through new Web #Privacy Census https://eff.org/r.a8dJJun 26 22:00
DaemonFCand I can turn around and pay him for anything I wantedJun 26 22:00
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DaemonFCit's like $10 up front to register as a bidder, so if you go there as a group you can just use one person as a bidder and bid through them by proxyJun 26 22:01
DaemonFC:PJun 26 22:01
DaemonFCwe ended up getting a lot of good dealsJun 26 22:02
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM3nvATF-U8&w=630&h=385 Jun 26 22:02
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schestowitzyou're eaten by madame harmon's generationJun 26 22:02
schestowitzand the corporationsJun 26 22:02
DaemonFCa vacuum cleaner that is about $180 new, some woman (you know it was a woman because no man would do this!) jammed it up and couldn't figure out how to fix itJun 26 22:02
DaemonFCso we got it for $15, cleaned it out, put a new belt and filters on itJun 26 22:03
DaemonFCworks fine Jun 26 22:03
DaemonFCwe got a mantis tiller, brand new the same model is like $220Jun 26 22:03
DaemonFCwe got it for $50Jun 26 22:03
schestowitzfelta knows how to fix stuffJun 26 22:03
DaemonFCit had a gas leak but that part ended up being like $10Jun 26 22:03
schestowitzin the US, people just go to the store and buy "more stuff"Jun 26 22:03
schestowitzOn to the next "shopping experience"Jun 26 22:04
DaemonFCschestowitz: and.......Jun 26 22:04
DaemonFCthat's good for meJun 26 22:04
DaemonFCbecause I can buy this stuff dirt cheap at auctionJun 26 22:04
DaemonFCfix it up for a few bucksJun 26 22:04
DaemonFCand I get a $220 garden tiller for $60Jun 26 22:04
schestowitzDaemonFC: who is "we"?Jun 26 22:04
schestowitzJabba and Ryan?Jun 26 22:04
schestowitzauctioned as broken?Jun 26 22:05
DaemonFCschestowitz: I got a big table I still need to put togetherJun 26 22:05
DaemonFCI plan to replace my TV stand and computer desk in here with itJun 26 22:05
MinceR"Ending is better than mending. The more stitches, the less riches."Jun 26 22:05
DaemonFCit's huge, nothing wrong with it eitherJun 26 22:05
DaemonFC$10Jun 26 22:05
DaemonFCthat's how I got the MSNTV thingJun 26 22:05
DaemonFCthe table came with everything that was on top of itJun 26 22:05
DaemonFC:PJun 26 22:05
schestowitzmany people go bankruptJun 26 22:06
schestowitzlike DawnJun 26 22:06
schestowitzThey'll sell objects on the cheapJun 26 22:06
schestowitz"everything must go"Jun 26 22:06
DaemonFCI was mostly interested in the MSNTV thing because it was basically freeJun 26 22:06
schestowitzsaturation os stuffJun 26 22:06
schestowitzrepairs on the riseJun 26 22:06
schestowitzlike in USSRJun 26 22:06
DaemonFCand I might be able to hack it to run embedded Linux or somethingJun 26 22:06
DaemonFCit has a decent little MIPS processor in itJun 26 22:06
DaemonFCnot much RAM thoughJun 26 22:06
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FourHorsemenoftheInfocalypse https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747400Jun 26 22:07
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DaemonFCit would be sufficient as long as I didn't launch an X serverJun 26 22:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Crony capitalism loves terrorism and child porn. It uses those to ban private networking, giving privatised Internet franchises to corrupt gov. mates, who in turn enable the upper class spy on and upon demand harass the people down below (e.g. NSA chokepoints).Jun 26 22:07
schestowitzurl gone awryJun 26 22:07
DaemonFCschestowitz: MIPS is a reallt nice architecture Jun 26 22:08
DaemonFCthis would be my second MIPS systemJun 26 22:08
DaemonFCmy other one is an SGI Octane Jun 26 22:08
DaemonFCI got that at an auction too, came with IRIX install CDs and everythingJun 26 22:08
schestowitzRoad Runner had MIPSJun 26 22:09
DaemonFCI sent off to SGI with the serial number from that system and shipping fees and they sent me the latest IRIX discsJun 26 22:09
DaemonFCthey're pretty coolJun 26 22:09
DaemonFCtoo bad they're in the shape they're inJun 26 22:09
DaemonFCI'm considering buying the same GPU I already have just to get the updated model that uses less power and has passive coolingJun 26 22:10
schestowitzwhat would happen to the old GPU?Jun 26 22:10
DaemonFCmy main complaint remaining with open source radeon is not that the performance is bad (If you're using Linux 3.4/3.5 and Mesa from git and X.org Server 1.12, and the radeon ddx from git, it's really decent lately)Jun 26 22:11
DaemonFCit's that it has like, no fan controlJun 26 22:11
DaemonFCso my computer sounds like Marine One taking offJun 26 22:11
DaemonFC:)Jun 26 22:11
DaemonFCCatalyst also has dynamic clock speed settingJun 26 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #Crivins Special: http://ur1.ca/9kl4s Colin, myself, @thistleweb, @kevie, & @aparanoidshell Also about #Pulseaudio.Jun 26 22:12
DaemonFCso there's like a 10 watt difference on average between what my system consumes between proprietary and open source radeon driversJun 26 22:12
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DaemonFCI know that's not huge, but it is measurable and after you have the system on for 8-10 hours a day every day that year, it will be a dent on your power bill tooJun 26 22:13
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DaemonFCone of the things I noticed when I switched from my 17" CRT to my 24" LCD is that my power bill went down a couple dollars a monthJun 26 22:14
DaemonFCthose old CRT monitors are about the worst PC component on power efficiency that are still widely usedJun 26 22:14
DaemonFCI went from about 100 watts with the 17" CRT to about 35 with the 24" LCDJun 26 22:15
*DaemonFC thinks that there should be a one watt on standby cap, in law, on every single deviceJun 26 22:16
DaemonFCsome of these devices use a constant 4-5 watts in standbyJun 26 22:17
DaemonFCcable boxes with a DVR in them use the same amount of power on or "off", give or take a wattJun 26 22:17
DaemonFChttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-concerns-over-Firefox-s-new-tab-thumbnail-feature-1625761.htmlJun 26 22:23
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DaemonFCyeah, the thought crossed my mindJun 26 22:23
DaemonFCnevermind the fact that it is a huge privacy issueJun 26 22:23
DaemonFCanyone looking over your shoulder can see all the sites you've been to latelyJun 26 22:24
schestowitz[22:13] <DaemonFC> I know that's not huge, but it is measurable and after you have the system on for 8-10 hours a day every day that year, it will be a dent on your power bill tooJun 26 22:24
schestowitzhardltJun 26 22:24
schestowitzthe AC takes moreJun 26 22:24
schestowitzPCs don't take up much energy anymoreJun 26 22:24
schestowitzrelative to their benefitJun 26 22:25
DaemonFChaving the fan at 100% could cause unnecessary wearJun 26 22:25
DaemonFCit definitely causes more noiseJun 26 22:25
DaemonFCmy PC is pretty quiet with CatalystJun 26 22:26
DaemonFChttp://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6348/image1ex.pngJun 26 22:28
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DaemonFCunfiltered Huntington tap water after sitting for a couple daysJun 26 22:28
MinceRughJun 26 22:28
DaemonFCthe resolution isn't good enough to see chunks of stuff floating in itJun 26 22:28
DaemonFCbut they're thereJun 26 22:28
MinceRmight want to use a filter or mineral water :>Jun 26 22:28
DaemonFCyeah, I use a Filtrete pitcher nowJun 26 22:29
DaemonFCcarbon filteringJun 26 22:29
DaemonFCtastes better than "purified" bottled waterJun 26 22:29
MinceRmaybe i should try a water filter, i bring home a lot of bottled mineral water nowadaysJun 26 22:29
DaemonFChttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4728/image3sbw.pngJun 26 22:30
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DaemonFCsame unfiltered waterJun 26 22:30
DaemonFCnotice that you can see some of the larger chunksJun 26 22:30
MinceRtoo blurryJun 26 22:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Patrick McGoohan ("Number Six") about "The Prisoner" and rebelling: bit.ly/MnKs47 well worth a watch. Along with "The Prisoner", of courseJun 26 22:32
DaemonFChttp://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5511/image4sz.pngJun 26 22:32
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DaemonFCMinceR: Left is unfilteredJun 26 22:33
DaemonFCRight is filteredJun 26 22:33
MinceR:)Jun 26 22:33
DaemonFCwhich would you rather drink? :)Jun 26 22:33
MinceRand how well did the filter work on the chlorine taste/smell?Jun 26 22:33
MinceR(if any)Jun 26 22:33
DaemonFCcan't taste itJun 26 22:33
DaemonFCremoved all the sediment tooJun 26 22:34
MinceRcould you taste it in the unfiltered water?Jun 26 22:34
DaemonFCOH YEAHJun 26 22:34
MinceR:)Jun 26 22:34
DaemonFClike drinking out of a swimming poolJun 26 22:34
DaemonFCVerdict: A simple sediment/active carbon filter improved the quality of your drinking water many times overJun 26 22:35
DaemonFC*improvesJun 26 22:35
DaemonFCthe obvious alarming fact is that the US EPA and Indiana Department of Environmental Management says the water on the left is perfectly drinkableJun 26 22:36
DaemonFCeven though after it has sat for about a day, the chlorine smell is gone, now it smells like swamp water insteadJun 26 22:36
DaemonFCthe filtered water has no smell at allJun 26 22:37
DaemonFCthe manufacturer says to replace the filter after you run 100 gallons through itJun 26 22:37
DaemonFCor three monthsJun 26 22:37
DaemonFCif you live in Huntington, Indiana, I'd probably divide that figure in halfJun 26 22:38
DaemonFCour water is some nasty nasty shit, and the price keeps going upJun 26 22:38
DaemonFCwater from the Louisiana Bayou probably tastes betterJun 26 22:38
DaemonFCB-)Jun 26 22:38
DaemonFCeven with the flavor enhancing BP tar ballsJun 26 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] We reprappers and makers proudly put the Manus back in manufacturing. Good night.Jun 26 22:39
DaemonFCMinceR: These states are not worried about the impact the BP disaster had on the quality of their drinking waterJun 26 22:39
MinceRhttp://www.odoripark.com/comics/2012-06-25-punimpressed.gifJun 26 22:40
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DaemonFCthey're going after BP for millions of dollars, to use on advertising, to convince tourists it's safe to come backJun 26 22:40
DaemonFCif it really was safe to come back, they wouldn't need a $300 million dollar propaganda campaignJun 26 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] testJun 26 22:40
DaemonFCI feel sorry for the people that live there while the states and the federal government are blowing smoke up their assesJun 26 22:41
DaemonFCand that fat fuck, Haley Barbour Jun 26 22:42
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haley_BarbourJun 26 22:42
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DaemonFCtelling people that the tarballs were nothing to worry aboutJun 26 22:42
DaemonFCand then pardoning hundreds of rapists and child molesters right before leaving officeJun 26 22:42
DaemonFCit's usually the white collar business criminals that get executive pardons in the United States thoughJun 26 22:44
DaemonFCso it's nice to see some child molesters thrown in to keep things fair I guess :)Jun 26 22:44
DaemonFCMinceR: Fair and Balanced!Jun 26 22:44
DaemonFCyou know what? I think executive pardons should not be allowed.Jun 26 22:45
DaemonFCThe abuse to legitimate pardon ratio is probably 99 to 1Jun 26 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #EU Commissioner Reveals He Will Ignore Any Rejection of #ACTA - Slashdot http://goo.gl/YkMED ah these demo.crats!!!Jun 26 22:45
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DaemonFCand every single person they pardon got the sentence they got from a judge and juryJun 26 22:46
DaemonFCthe executive pardon is just effective dictatorshipJun 26 22:46
DaemonFCone asshole on his way out of office can undo hundreds of legitimate convictions Jun 26 22:46
*DaemonFC thinks the constitutions (federal and state) should be amended, to remove the executive pardon, and instead give the executive (president or state governor) the ability to order a retrial if he feels the person was wrongly convictedJun 26 22:49
DaemonFCand during this retrial, the person stays in prisonJun 26 22:49
DaemonFCyou know if they're convicted a second time by a different judge and jury, they're probably exactly where they need to be :)Jun 26 22:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] CyanogenMod 9.0-rc1 available http://ur1.ca/9kle5Jun 26 22:54
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DaemonFCoh dammit, I said "he", how presumptuousJun 26 22:54
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm at least 90% sure Jan Brewer is anatomically femaleJun 26 22:54
MinceR"he" can be interpreted as gender-neutralJun 26 22:55
DaemonFCI'm not entirely sure she was born that way thoughJun 26 22:55
DaemonFCat least Arizona's governor matches the landscape of the stateJun 26 22:55
DaemonFCbrown, shriveled up, and deadJun 26 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] EU Parlamentarian Gallo: #ACTA Dissent 'A Soft Form Of #Terrorism' http://goo.gl/ILWl2Jun 26 22:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Miami Heat Owner Now Threatening To Separately Sue The Lawyer Defending Blogger Who Linked To Unflattering Image http://goo.gl/3e4z1Jun 26 22:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Want To Be A 'Signed' Musician? Any And All Records Will Take You http://goo.gl/o78ifJun 26 22:59
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DaemonFClooks like my ballot is going to be Obama for President, Rupert Boneham for Indiana governor (I mean, fucking tie dye! How cool is that?) :), and Joe Donnelly for SenatorJun 26 22:59
DaemonFCnot entirely thrilled about most of the votes I'm going to cast, but Boneham is just awesome Jun 26 23:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Political commentary these days is hilariously chiralious.Jun 26 23:00
DaemonFCI don't think it really matters at all whether Mike Pence or John Gregg get elected to be the next Indiana governor, they're both far right wing nutjobsJun 26 23:01
DaemonFChttp://www.greggforgovernor.com/docs/GFG-Hoosier-Handshake-5.16.12.pdfJun 26 23:02
DaemonFCTHIS is the DemocratJun 26 23:02
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DaemonFC"Eliminate the corporate income tax "Jun 26 23:02
DaemonFCand he wants to pay for it by increasing the sales tax burden on citizensJun 26 23:03
DaemonFChe figures that if he can just hike the tax burden on an already overtaxed population, by another $350 million a year, that we might be able to pirate a few factories from other statesJun 26 23:04
DaemonFCat least until we ask them to pay taxes again and they move to another stateJun 26 23:04
DaemonFCthis is not better than what the Republican wants to doJun 26 23:05
DaemonFCin fact, it's a fair bit worseJun 26 23:05
DaemonFCunder Gregg's plan, every single person in Indiana would pay an average of $60 more in taxes every year to cover the hole left by not taxing companies like WalmartJun 26 23:06
DaemonFCand that's assuming that you have all 6 million or so of us paying an even amount of taxes, which won't happenJun 26 23:07
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DaemonFCsome people will only pay a few more dollars a year, some will pay $300 a year more to the stateJun 26 23:07
MinceRmaybe the dems' strategy for winning elections in indiana was to turn into republicans :>Jun 26 23:07
MinceRgn gnufreex Jun 26 23:07
DaemonFChe doesn't want to cut spending, he just wants to cut the corporate tax rate to zero and have me pick up Walmart's tax obligation for themJun 26 23:08
DaemonFCfuck himJun 26 23:08
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DaemonFCwe don't need his shitJun 26 23:08
DaemonFCthis is probably the most disgusting Indiana governor's race I've ever seenJun 26 23:09
DaemonFCthey're both RepublicansJun 26 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Winning BIG on ACTA and Beyond! http://ur1.ca/9ki0d #acta #euJun 26 23:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz If citizens can demand #facebook provides all the data it collects on self, how come can't be done with #NSA (even track ...Jun 26 23:09
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DaemonFCit's just a question of how Republican Jun 26 23:09
DaemonFCneither one of them are worried about what Indiana voters think of themJun 26 23:10
DaemonFCthey're both in a competition to see who can get the most dirty corporate campaign fundingJun 26 23:10
MinceRyupJun 26 23:10
DaemonFCso I will be voting for the Libertarian candidate this yearJun 26 23:10
MinceRgnJun 26 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Remember that story on GMO grass that was a normal hybrid but still killed cattle? Here's the full Monty. Isolated, un... http://b1t.it/bF1cJun 26 23:14
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MinceRthat story on GMO grass that wasn't GMO :>Jun 26 23:15
formic_DaemonFC: Woot go Ron Paul !!!Jun 26 23:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: your water looks tepidJun 26 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] They fly buildings into financial centres, so we fly unmanned drones into weddings. That's how we spread democracy, one wedding at a time.Jun 26 23:17
sebsebsebschestowitz: Have you heard the Crivins  Episode 20 yet?Jun 26 23:17
sebsebsebI guess notJun 26 23:17
DaemonFCschestowitz: I told you it was bad!Jun 26 23:17
MinceRRon Paul didn't win the nominationJun 26 23:17
DaemonFCIDEM and EPA say it's perfectly safe to drink!Jun 26 23:17
schestowitz[22:34] <DaemonFC> like drinking out of a swimming poolJun 26 23:18
schestowitzNoJun 26 23:18
schestowitzSwimming pool is vastly betterJun 26 23:18
schestowitzmore chlorineJun 26 23:18
DaemonFCyeahJun 26 23:18
formic_Go Ron Paul anyway!!Jun 26 23:18
DaemonFCit tastes like a swimming pool when it's freshJun 26 23:18
DaemonFCafter it has aired out it tastes like swamp waterJun 26 23:18
DaemonFCI don't even want to guess what is in that waterJun 26 23:18
DaemonFCit finally got so bad that I broke down and bought a filterJun 26 23:18
schestowitzformic_ might claim this to be some kind of a sterilisation planJun 26 23:19
schestowitzsebsebseb: noJun 26 23:19
formic_LolJun 26 23:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: listen to it :)Jun 26 23:20
*DaemonFC isn't aware of any fracking going on near here, but it almost resembles what the water near a fracking site looks likeJun 26 23:20
sebsebsebyou saw my dents about it?Jun 26 23:20
schestowitzmaybe I willJun 26 23:20
formic_Isn't it sterilization ?Jun 26 23:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: uh I went on it yesterdayJun 26 23:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: with Colin as well one of the Mageia founders who maintains Pulseaudio in Mageia and contributes to it upstreamJun 26 23:20
formic_sebsebseb: Link itJun 26 23:21
schestowitz[22:12] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !Mageia #Crivins Special: http://ur1.ca/9kl4s Colin, myself, @thistleweb, @kevie, &  @aparanoidshell   Also about #Pulseaudio.Jun 26 23:21
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sebsebsebhttp://unseenstudio.co.uk/casts/crivins/episode-20Jun 26 23:21
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DaemonFCmy landlord should be a politicianJun 26 23:21
DaemonFChe doesn't fix his problems, he just moves them aroundJun 26 23:21
DaemonFChe'd make a perfect politicianJun 26 23:21
DaemonFCyou don't pay your rent? no problem! he'll just move you into another one of his apartmentsJun 26 23:22
formic_Did dawn move in with you yet DaemonFC Jun 26 23:23
DaemonFCif Dawn didn't just move, he would have let that go on and on and onJun 26 23:23
DaemonFCnow he moves the woman downstairs, who also isn't paying her rent, into Dawn's apartmentJun 26 23:23
schestowitzdawn said you can make a sandwichJun 26 23:24
schestowitzin the bedroom, not ehe kitchen, her on topJun 26 23:24
DaemonFChe should get rid of the bitch and find a renter that pays on time and doesn't throw trash in the lawnJun 26 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] They hate us because we spread McDonaldsJun 26 23:24
*DaemonFC needs to gather up a bunch of junk to take down to the goodwill boxJun 26 23:25
DaemonFCwonder if I can stuff Lorie in there tooJun 26 23:25
DaemonFCput a sticker on her that says "WHORE - 50 cents"Jun 26 23:25
formic_Donate yourselfJun 26 23:25
DaemonFC"Lamp shade sold separately"Jun 26 23:25
DaemonFChmm, I still have my brother's old broken XBOX 360 that's out of warranty and Microsoft wants $100 to send a replacement...Jun 26 23:27
DaemonFCmight as well toss that inJun 26 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fedora/@fedora] RT @muktware: @Fedora 18 to Offer Awesome Setup, Configuration Experience: http://2tu.us/5oztJun 26 23:29
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/94433735#notice-94941802 http://identi.ca/notice/94941802Jun 26 23:32
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TechrightsBot-tr@laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 22:09:38 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Very good question ... that would make a good article, RoyJun 26 23:32
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/94942171Jun 26 23:32
TechrightsBot-tr@Gabriel Saldana (gabrielsaldana)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 22:25:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz well, you have to admit it is really bad food ;)Jun 26 23:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1749036Jun 26 23:34
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schestowitz"i work with canines... dogs to the lay person"Jun 26 23:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1749036Jun 26 23:34
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schestowitz"that looks interesting! Need to check it out."Jun 26 23:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748996Jun 26 23:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: why did #phoronix take this blog posthttp://ppenz.blogspot.nl/2012/06/dolphin-21.html and thurn it into an insulting headline? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyNzI #kde still ahead of the restJun 26 23:35
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schestowitz"Jun 26 23:35
schestowitzbecause this way, people will spred this link like wildfire.Jun 26 23:35
schestowitzSensationalism.Jun 26 23:35
schestowitz"Jun 26 23:35
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748931 "I have to admit - when I first saw this I was thinking "PS3 - Playstation 3?""Jun 26 23:35
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #PS3 Media Server 1.54.0 Is Available for Download http://news.softpedia.com/news/PS3-Media-Server-1-54-0-Is-Available-for-Download-277616.shtml #gnu #linuxJun 26 23:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1747778Jun 26 23:36
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Science Vs Religion #scienceJun 26 23:36
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schestowitz"Politics and humanistic pride, not religion"Jun 26 23:36
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schestowitz"It's a little relieving to learn that others have started to come to the same conclusions I've drawn several years ago about the Ubuntu malignancy^Wphenomenon. Yet, it is only the sequel of a development that has started much longer before: The depoliticization of Free Software. Those who have called for a pragmatic approach to spreading what used to be called the GNU system are now facing a situation where a wide can has been reached,Jun 26 23:38
schestowitz yet nothing substantial has changed. Running Ubuntu could be considered worse than not running Free Software at all. It is a situation worse than defeat...:"Jun 26 23:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1748386Jun 26 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNU and #Linux not mentioned even once in ubuntu.com -what's worse, its senior folks actively discourage people from mentioning those wordsJun 26 23:38
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/94435787#notice-94942378 http://identi.ca/notice/94942378Jun 26 23:38
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TechrightsBot-tr@David Sugar (dyfet)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Jun-12 22:34:16 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz then they clearly have a valid beefJun 26 23:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ASUS Eee PC 1225C, Ubuntu Pre-Installed Laptop http://ur1.ca/9klmb #gnu #linuxJun 26 23:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Canadian Court Issues Triple-Whammy Ruling In Favor Of Free Speech And Commentary Online http://identi.ca/url/72476230Jun 26 23:49
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sebsebsebformic_: listening to it yet?Jun 26 23:51
formic_Not yetJun 26 23:52
sebsebseboh okJun 26 23:52
formic_Once I get home Jun 26 23:52
formic_I willJun 26 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Mac Users See Pricier Rooms At Orbitz http://bit.ly/LA1VFF « I wonder what they serve up to Linux users? http://b1t.it/bF1vJun 26 23:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Today was so beautiful I did more cat wrangling than writing http://identi.ca/attachment/72476274Jun 26 23:54
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formic_sebsebseb: Play Diablo3?Jun 26 23:56
sebsebsebformic_: noJun 26 23:58

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