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XFaCEDaemonFC: Still usiing XFS for rootJun 29 00:10
DaemonFCI guess for all the bitching, I could have it a lot worse. There's areas of the US where the cost of living is 2-3 times what it is here and people who make "$15 an hour" are dirt poor and have to find a second job "at a thrift store part time"Jun 29 00:16
DaemonFCouchJun 29 00:16
DaemonFCthat woman cited her rent being $850 a month for a one bedroom apartment in DC, 3 years agoJun 29 00:18
DaemonFCthe going rate in the town I live in is less than half thatJun 29 00:18
DaemonFCnowJun 29 00:18
DaemonFCand she didn't even mention whether or not she got utilities in the rent or had to buy them separatelyJun 29 00:19
DaemonFCthe "half that" amount typically includes utilities hereJun 29 00:19
DaemonFCand without electricity, it can be even lessJun 29 00:19
DaemonFCthat's probably the biggest problem with the Federal Poverty GuidelineJun 29 00:20
DaemonFCdepending on where you live, $86,000 for a family of four can be very comfortable, or just barely making your house/rent paymentsJun 29 00:21
DaemonFCa lot of these cities have OUTRAGEOUS tax rates, which drives up the cost of living, so they can give free housing to illegal Mexicans who get paid in cash under the table and also get food stampsJun 29 00:22
DaemonFCFort Wayne has something like that going on right nowJun 29 00:22
DaemonFCthey think that if they take tax money and use it to fix up crack houses and give them a coat of paint and then rent them out real cheap, that it's just going to fix everything that's wrong thereJun 29 00:23
DaemonFCno, it acts as a magnet, so you just get more crack dens and the people that occupy them and pay minimal rent tear them up again right awayJun 29 00:24
DaemonFCand everyone in the city that isn't on welfare gets to cover thatJun 29 00:24
DaemonFCthese people the Washington Post made examples of are not going to draw any sympathy to the people that are really struggling through no fault of their ownJun 29 00:26
DaemonFCciting a guy that buys $9 chicken wings, argues about his grocery bill, has the cashier remove stuff from it, then cusses her and the manager out and demands a full refund.....Jun 29 00:26
DaemonFCreally?Jun 29 00:26
DaemonFCthese are the best examples they could come up with?Jun 29 00:26
DaemonFCthose kinds of people are why welfare is so stigmatic Jun 29 00:27
DaemonFCthey *are* the problem with welfareJun 29 00:27
DaemonFCpeople who pay $10 to pay their electric bill when they could buy a 42 cent stamp and mail it inJun 29 00:28
DaemonFCpeople who get short term loans at 862% APR to buy groceriesJun 29 00:29
DaemonFCpeople who pay $3-5 to cash a checkJun 29 00:29
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DaemonFCsay a person works and gets paid every weekJun 29 00:30
DaemonFCthey cash their checks at Walmart for $3, they pay their electric bill there with the $8 fee Walmart charges them, then they pay their phone bill there too (another $8), you're up to $28 in fees that month just to pay bills and cash checks when you could have done it for about 84 cents if you had two brain cells touching each otherJun 29 00:31
DaemonFCthese people....Jun 29 00:31
DaemonFC(or free if you just paid everything online!)Jun 29 00:32
DaemonFCI pay all my bills onlineJun 29 00:32
DaemonFCI take out short term loans on my credit card all the time because I don't pay interest on them, the card company pays ME to use itJun 29 00:33
DaemonFCso I jsut pay them back the next day minus my cashbackJun 29 00:33
DaemonFCI'm not rich, I just manage my money a lot better than a lot of these peopleJun 29 00:33
DaemonFCthere's no excuse for what they do and I shouldn't have to pay for their subsidized rent because they're spending money like drunken sailors Jun 29 00:34
DaemonFCpoverty strikes a lot of people regardless of how much money they make because of "convenience fees" and consumer capitalismJun 29 00:35
DaemonFCyou "need" everything your neighbor has even when it isn't in the budgetJun 29 00:35
DaemonFCconsumer capitalism is probably the most evil thing ever inventedJun 29 00:36
DaemonFCit drives millions of people into the red every year trying to chase their neighbors taillights Jun 29 00:37
DaemonFCI don't buy the argument that "consumer spending" will ever help the US economy long termJun 29 00:37
DaemonFCif we're just hemorrhaging the money and the jobs out to third world countries, than almost every dollar spent is bad for the US economy in the long termJun 29 00:38
DaemonFCit can't go on forever. The federal government spending HAS to expand to cover up the GDP contractions that are really going on underneath.Jun 29 00:41
DaemonFCbut even that can't happen indefinitelyJun 29 00:41
DaemonFCand now Indiana is scrambling to comply with the Affordable Care Act at the last minute after arrogantly trying to stop it through the unelected judges on the court systemJun 29 00:48
DaemonFCand we risk having what control over the ACA the act would give to Indiana federalized insteadJun 29 00:48
DaemonFCthis is going to be great to watchJun 29 00:48
DaemonFCit might have just cost us billions in block grants that the state could have used however it likedJun 29 00:49
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DaemonFCof course, considering the people that run the state, I guess I'm glad they won't be running the health insurance exchangesJun 29 00:49
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm going to try to get Indiana declared a sister state to HungaryJun 29 00:52
DaemonFCwe seem to have so much in commonJun 29 00:52
DaemonFChigh poverty, alarming unemployment, a debt problem that is being papered overJun 29 00:53
DaemonFCfar right wing fascist politicians that want to micromanage everything you do in your daily life Jun 29 00:53
DaemonFCdo you object to any of that?Jun 29 00:53
DaemonFCI saw a blog by some fundamentalist Christian preacher that was a member of the Indiana General Assembly back in 1976Jun 29 00:55
DaemonFCone of the few who actually argued to keep "sodomy" as a state crime, and who lost his next election after failing to do that (good)Jun 29 00:55
DaemonFCnow he's back and still insisting that we need to re-criminalize is, AND spend millions of dollars defending the law all the way to the Supreme Court, trying to get Lawrence v. Texas overturnedJun 29 00:56
DaemonFC*itJun 29 00:56
DaemonFChis argument is that he is a compassionate conservative because (I shit you not!), he's not saying we should hang all gay people, "just throw them all in prison" at a cost of $37,600 a year, EACHJun 29 00:57
DaemonFCyou'd think they could let it goJun 29 00:57
DaemonFCthey lost this argument 36 years ago and it isn't coming backJun 29 00:58
DaemonFCprisons do create jobs for a bunch of knuckle dragging high school dropouts that aren't qualified to bag my groceriesJun 29 00:59
DaemonFCthey call them police officers and prison guardsJun 29 00:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Your e-reader is following your every page turn http://is.gd/kNlTbXJun 29 03:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Your e-reader is following your every page turn | The Verge .::. Size~: 89.88 KBJun 29 03:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIM - because partnering with #Microsoft has worked wonders for #Nokia http://is.gd/kMk5Ma #kissofdeathJun 29 03:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #IntellectualVentures Loses Its Shine: Will Its Business Model Ever Work? http://is.gd/tNed3jJun 29 03:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Intellectual Ventures Loses Its Shine: Will Its Business Model Ever Work? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 46.57 KBJun 29 03:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @whistlewright A spot of scotch bonnet pepper in a production environ. The knowledge & user base are too looseJun 29 03:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FSA finds #banks guilty of mis-selling to small businesses http://goo.gl/RTFKgJun 29 03:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Photographers boycott #StoneRoses gigs in contract row http://goo.gl/xMH6fJun 29 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jersey's 'secrecy culture' led to my suspension, says former police chief http://is.gd/r6HxWFJun 29 03:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Barclay brothers accused of trying to silence dissent on Sark http://is.gd/u7L4RAJun 29 03:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Photographers boycott Stone Roses gigs in contract row .::. Size~: 77.15 KBJun 29 03:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jersey's 'secrecy culture' led to my suspension, says former police chief | UK news | The Guardian .::. Size~: 107.59 KBJun 29 03:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the #StoneRoses have sold out so far as to demand exclusive rights to all photographs, will they sue fans by the bucketload?Jun 29 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Banking keeps getting away with it, just as the unions did http://goo.gl/icpNOJun 29 03:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Banking keeps getting away with it, just as the unions did | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 265.92 KBJun 29 03:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #RIAA have solidified themselves as warm & fuzzy among music fans when they started sueing the very fans who pay their wages #StoneRosesJun 29 03:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The international criminal court's many flaws can't simply be glossed over http://is.gd/jE29SbJun 29 03:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Response: The international criminal court's many flaws can't simply be glossed over | Toby Cadman | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 172.65 KBJun 29 03:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is there anything the banks haven't mis-sold?Jun 29 03:39
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Indiana,_2012Jun 29 03:53
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DaemonFCahh, vandalismJun 29 03:53
DaemonFC;)Jun 29 03:53
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-29/Jun 29 04:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @seawolf I *can* believe someone somewhere came up with an equal Rock-Paper-Scissors game that has not 3, but 101 gestures. http://ur ...Jun 29 04:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @seawolf I can't believe Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock is actually balanced; each defeating and defeated by two. http://ur1.ca/9l38kJun 29 04:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jgbarah School of Open: @creativecommons & @p2pu joining efforts to provide educational resources about open tools http://ur1.ca/9l2yoJun 29 04:17
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DaemonFCMinceR: Becoming a farmer wouldn't help himJun 29 04:19
DaemonFCas soon as some seeds from a neighboring farm get blown into his field, he'll just get sued by MonsantoJun 29 04:19
DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-28/Jun 29 04:21
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DaemonFCand there's how privatized retirement really worksJun 29 04:21
DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-27/Jun 29 04:22
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DaemonFCLOLJun 29 04:22
DaemonFChe has some good ones latelyJun 29 04:22
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MinceR:>Jun 29 04:27
MinceRgeekingsJun 29 04:28
DaemonFC"your only hope is if some billionaire decides to hunt you on his private island"Jun 29 04:29
DaemonFChard to tell if he's even joking anymoreJun 29 04:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@alberto_cottica @gquagiotto I promised and I shall deliver. yesterday @asta_fish and Jasmine joined us. #EdgeRyders abound! :)Jun 29 04:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] #London Police Want To Crowdsource Guilt-Free #Surveillance - http://bit.ly/OENP8N Bentham would be proudJun 29 04:34
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DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-24/Jun 29 04:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Koko Koko Boli Spoko bit.ly/MbzeQE :) !polskaJun 29 04:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UNESCO World OER Congress releases 2012 Paris OER Declaration - http://bit.ly/NJ50Qx moar #OER...Jun 29 04:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Calling Dr. Google - http://bit.ly/MuFtP9 interesting taleJun 29 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An2An Keyboard - http://bit.ly/LkDk4N clever #androidJun 29 04:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTAfacts? ACTAfiction? Or Just Unsourced Pro-#ACTA Propaganda Purporting To Be Objective? - http://bit.ly/NVkYL5 desperate or what?Jun 29 04:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] crowdsourcing tech the Met are using against rioters could also be used to identify #lobbyists swarming the halls of power with timestampsJun 29 04:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Ventures Loses Its Shine: Will Its Business Model Ever Work? - http://bit.ly/MuGt5K I think we know the answer to that #trollsJun 29 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] let's see if #lobbyist meetings with #politicians match up with bills being proposed or pushed by those same politiciansJun 29 04:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd also be a good way of matching up the gaps in #FOI request "mistakes" when #politicians "forget" to mention certain meetingsJun 29 04:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after all you can't rely on #politicians to be accurate about who they meet & when, even the PM got caught in that lie #Murdoch #CameronJun 29 04:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just slept for 9 hours for the first time in many years. So extremely unproductive, but refreshing still.Jun 29 04:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Rupert Rawnsley http://ur1.ca/9l3qeJun 29 05:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ex-NHS chief Gary Walker 'being gagged' - http://bbc.in/ODYb7P disgraceful: enquiry needed here (v @bengoldacre) #transparencyJun 29 05:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ACTAfacts? ACTAfiction? Or Just Unsourced Pro-ACTA Propaganda Purporting To Be Objective? http://is.gd/DIqE5X #getthefactsJun 29 05:10
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MinceRi thought they gave up on AIR ages agoJun 29 05:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 5 years of #GPLv3 - http://bit.ly/LV4sZ3 interesting point about licence compatibilityJun 29 05:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A concentrated and silent atmosphere in the Red Hat office in Munich. I guess no "Schland!" shouting today? ;-)Jun 29 05:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @glynmoody Ex-NHS chief Gary Walker 'being gagged' - http://bbc.in/ODYb7P disgraceful: enquiry needed here (v @bengoldacre) #transparencyJun 29 05:19
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DaemonFCMinceR: Ron White said "you can't fix stupid"Jun 29 05:20
DaemonFC"stupid is forever"Jun 29 05:20
DaemonFChe forgot to mention that stupid is all around usJun 29 05:20
DaemonFCsometimes we don't even notice until it's too lateJun 29 05:20
DaemonFCstupid, is like the PredatorJun 29 05:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the difference between the 1% & the rest of us? they have a never ending supply of human chaff to blame when caught screwing people overJun 29 05:20
MinceR:>Jun 29 05:22
DaemonFCI've given up fighting itJun 29 05:22
DaemonFCI avoid it wherever I canJun 29 05:22
DaemonFCbut, George Carlin said something that ties into this tooJun 29 05:22
DaemonFC"this is it folks! this is the best it gets! don't look for more, be happy with what you have!"Jun 29 05:22
DaemonFCor something to that effectJun 29 05:23
DaemonFCthe Supreme Court says Congress can tax people for anything, and tax them selectively, even as a punishmentJun 29 05:24
DaemonFCso why not have a Stupid Tax?Jun 29 05:24
DaemonFCwe'd pay down the national debt in no timeJun 29 05:24
DaemonFCpeople could no longer afford to be stupidJun 29 05:24
DaemonFCthey'd be throwing themselves out of windows to get away from the taxJun 29 05:24
DaemonFCMinceR: Did you know that people were talking about moving to Canada to get away from socialized medicine?Jun 29 05:25
DaemonFCno, you move to Canada to get away from military draftsJun 29 05:25
MinceR:>Jun 29 05:26
DaemonFClike when the Vietnam draft had well over 40,000 Americans flee to CanadaJun 29 05:26
DaemonFCand most of them didn't even bother coming back, after they were pardonedJun 29 05:26
DaemonFCwhy would they?Jun 29 05:27
DaemonFCwhat would they be coming home to?Jun 29 05:27
DaemonFCno healthcare, an unfunded pension system?Jun 29 05:27
DaemonFCfundamentalist Christian bullshit running the entire country?Jun 29 05:28
DaemonFCI don't blame them, but I would ask that they try to influence Canada's immigration law so more of us can escapeJun 29 05:29
DaemonFCleave this country to choke to death on all the stupidityJun 29 05:29
iophkhttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-29/Jun 29 05:30
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DaemonFCI think we might be able to come to an understanding with the TEA fascistsJun 29 05:30
DaemonFCthreaten to bomb Canada unless they take all of the American LeftJun 29 05:30
DaemonFCwe'll be gone and they can turn the Unites States into whatever kind of hellish nightmare they want!Jun 29 05:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Thistleweb @Expatpaul @Theru @Morph @Schestowitz @GlynmoodyJun 29 05:34
DaemonFChttps://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/states-face-a-challenge-to-hit-laws-deadlines.html?_r=1&pagewanted=allJun 29 05:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I can see why people post pictures of their perky pets. It is hard to resist the urge, especially for the puppy page :)Jun 29 05:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Nice website to show people what kind of data they share and to make them a bit more sensible for #privacy issues http://ur1.ca/9kjafJun 29 05:37
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iophkhttp://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/29/adobe_to_end_new_android_flash_installs_on_august_15.htmlJun 29 05:37
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iophkGood riddance to Flash.Jun 29 05:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe !fellowship #interview: #PageKite can be combined with other !FreeSoftware to realise #decentralisation http://ur1.ca/9kc2kJun 29 05:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ Thistleweb. I wonder if the LIBOR manipulators will even be prosecuted. #WhitecollarcrimeisnotcrimeJun 29 05:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Most Blatant Pro-#ACTA Campaign So Far Is A Copyright Monopoly Violation - http://bit.ly/LV8TmR laws only apply to you & me #hypocrisyJun 29 06:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @rtroncy: Powered by the #datalift platform ! RT @sclopit: geospatial #linkeddata from France http:/ http://ur1. ...Jun 29 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Every time I read a !fellowship interview I am so proud that I work for !fsfe with all those amazing people http://ur1.ca/9kc2k !gnu !fsJun 29 06:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Rick Falkvinge http://ur1.ca/9l42qJun 29 06:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - You couldn't make it up: The most blatant pro-ACTA campaign… .::. Size~: 126.78 KBJun 29 06:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #ff @lindaliukas @babgi @jangulliksen @GerganaPassy @digivaardig @alesspetic @MTDigitalC http://p.ost.im/p/eTJx6NJun 29 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @teirdes new caps are much lower than what many currently offer - and will go down yet f http://p.ost.im/p/e3wEmWJun 29 06:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: complete list of #digital champions here https://t.co/UUaAmhzw http://t.co/P6GoRtsw http://p.ost.im/p/e3V5kcJun 29 06:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@kirschner: Every time I read a #fellowship interview I am so proud that I work for #fsfe with all those amazing people http://ur1.ca/9kc2kJun 29 06:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "#Coffee! You can sleep when you're dead!" - !q, also @asta_fish's philosophy, apparentlyJun 29 06:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hell frozen & I missed it? » Adobe's !OpenSource Code Editor 4 Web Devs, Brackets http://goo.gl/6Vlaa « Seems limited thoughJun 29 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Rick Falkvinge http://ur1.ca/9l47wJun 29 06:49
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MinceRhttp://forums.finalgear.com/technology/shut-up-i-hack-you-stupid-hacker-alert-32740/Jun 29 06:50
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iophkhttp://falkvinge.net/2012/06/29/most-blatant-pro-acta-campaign-so-far-is-a-copyright-monopoly-violation/Jun 29 07:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @reticuleena Apple kümmert sich um unsere Moral und bereinigt Kraftausdrücke in Liedern. http://ur1.ca/9l3yq #zensur #warumkaufenimme ...Jun 29 07:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @davidmarsden: Saw a DHL van outside on my way home. Now Google is serving up ads for DHL. WTF?!Jun 29 07:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I haven't read any momentous news so far today. Friday is usually slow thoughJun 29 07:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It runs on KVM. It offers Ubuntu and CentOS images. I start to like Google Compute engine.Jun 29 07:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] RT @boltronics Sign the petition calling for transparency in the negotiation of the TPP agreement. http://stopthetrap.net/Jun 29 07:24
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DaemonFCa colony of yellow jackets set up a nest in the trunk of my carJun 29 07:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Please help us Free Bassel, open source developer and #CC volunteer: https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/33119Jun 29 07:40
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DaemonFCI had to get back in and drive back to the store to get a can of raidJun 29 07:41
DaemonFC:PJun 29 07:41
formic_DaemonFC: Winamp supports alacJun 29 07:46
formic_They should have called it andampJun 29 07:47
DaemonFCblehJun 29 07:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Time to leave Academic hostel and go to #KDE !Akademy prerigistration event spotJun 29 07:50
DaemonFCthis day is weird alreadyJun 29 07:51
DaemonFCfeels weirdJun 29 07:51
DaemonFCjust totally wrong somehowJun 29 07:51
DaemonFClike I forgot somethingJun 29 07:51
formic_So Winamp became my solution to killing my iPodJun 29 07:51
DaemonFCoh, because it plays your Crapple Lossless on Android?Jun 29 07:52
DaemonFCsee, I knew you'd like it :)Jun 29 07:52
formic_I wish there was Winamp for LinuxJun 29 07:52
DaemonFCthere was one onceJun 29 07:52
DaemonFCjust a beta release of Winamp 3Jun 29 07:52
formic_Yeah I didn't want to convert all my musicJun 29 07:52
formic_Everything I have on fedora plays alacJun 29 07:53
DaemonFCoh, I checked my mail, and my refund from AT&T was.....much larger than I expected it to beJun 29 07:53
DaemonFCPARTY!Jun 29 07:53
DaemonFCheheJun 29 07:53
formic_:)Jun 29 07:53
formic_Winamp is also the only decent player for flac tooJun 29 07:54
*DaemonFC needs to run by the bank to deposit this sucker :)Jun 29 07:54
DaemonFCso rare that I get a checkJun 29 07:54
formic_If I had Winamp for Linux I could sync it with androidJun 29 07:54
DaemonFCas in, an actual paper checkJun 29 07:55
DaemonFCI didn't know they still made themJun 29 07:55
DaemonFChow retro.....Jun 29 07:55
formic_None of this 90s drag and drop mass storage stuffJun 29 07:55
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 07:55
DaemonFCdrag and drop / MSC is crudeJun 29 07:55
DaemonFCbut....it worksJun 29 07:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Please help us #FreeBassel, open source developer and #CC volunteer: https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/33119Jun 29 07:55
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DaemonFCI'd rather have a simple and workable solution to one that is better in theory but never works out betterJun 29 07:56
formic_My music player on Linux should be able to send my already made playlists overJun 29 07:56
formic_Banshee might but I don't really want mono bloatJun 29 07:56
DaemonFCRhythmbox has MTP supportJun 29 07:57
DaemonFCAmarok mightJun 29 07:57
DaemonFCI don't know, I don't use MTPJun 29 07:57
formic_I'll try rhythymboxJun 29 07:57
formic_I don't really like Amarok anymoreJun 29 07:57
formic_ClunkyJun 29 07:58
DaemonFCbbiab, out to do more running aroundJun 29 07:59
*DaemonFC will get through this eventuallyJun 29 07:59
DaemonFCevery time I get back in, there's another reason I have to go back out againJun 29 07:59
DaemonFCI saw that yellow jacket hive and decided to not wait for the nest to get largerJun 29 08:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Thanks for the tip-off! Just tried #SuperTaxKart again myself and was really impressed.Jun 29 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anonymous Courtroom Notes Raise Serious Questions About SurfTheChannel Conviction - http://bit.ly/OF6cth any lawyers got views on claims?Jun 29 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Please help us Free Bassel, #opensource developer and CC volunteer - http://bit.ly/MFAv1l worrying stuff #syriaJun 29 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Making calls is fifth most frequent UK smartphone activity, according to O2 - http://tnw.co/MEnfbQ computers with phones, not vice versaJun 29 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wildeboer's IaaS and PaaS law #1: If it ain't running on KVM it ain't worth it. :-)Jun 29 08:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wildeboer's IaaS and PaaS law #2: Open {standards, source} wins.Jun 29 08:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Issa, Canada, and Mexico All Denied #TPP Observer Status; Congress Continues to Seek Greater Transparency - http://bit.ly/MEqDmYan insultJun 29 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Issa, Canada, and Mexico All Denied #TPP Observer Status; Congress Continues to Seek Greater Transparency - http://bit.ly/MEqDmY an insultJun 29 08:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Weird plan for next weekend: Try to convert my HP N40L Microserver to a working OpenShift-in-a-box config. The OpenShiftBox :-)Jun 29 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TPP viewed with skepticism - http://bit.ly/LUwl1P "#China sees it as US conspiracy to interfere with its international rise"; it isJun 29 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linksvayer: 5 years of GPLv3 http://ur1.ca/9l4x9Jun 29 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A day after the defeat my CSFC goalkeeper uniform still on http://ur1.ca/9l4xa feeling lazy, eager to resume writing articles this afternoonJun 29 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @fcouchet Some hours left to call MEP about software patents http://ur1.ca/9kw7c and ACTA http://ur1.ca/9l4w4Jun 29 09:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Problem with @orangekenya traffic was to Nakuru, Kisumu, W. Kenya this morning. Only fair to compensate those on daily bundles.Jun 29 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @reticuleena: Ich wünsche mir eine Menstruationskalender-App fürs #Android. Bitte als Freie Software. #FreeYourAndroidJun 29 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Just flashed #CyanogenMod 9 on my phone. Looks great! :) #Xperia phones still have a kernel bug: http://bit.ly/N1Bd6A #FreeYou ...Jun 29 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So bought my bundle at 1000 hours but didn't have net till 1400. @orangekenya I want my 4 hours back.Jun 29 09:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With UEFI, #Microsoft Assaults the General Public License (GPL) and Computing Freedom in General http://ur1.ca/9l517 #gpl #gnu #fsf #grubJun 29 09:30
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DaemonFCGRUB really is overly complicated, verbose, difficult to deal with, error prone, and has about a billion ways it can misbehave and fuck your day upJun 29 09:39
DaemonFCsomething simpler would be niceJun 29 09:39
iophkGrub 2 is worse.Jun 29 09:39
DaemonFCGRUB 2 is OK until it isn'tJun 29 09:40
DaemonFCas long as you never have it act up and eat your filesystem or refuse to boot, it's out of sight and out of mindJun 29 09:40
iophkIt's as you wrote, overly complexJun 29 09:41
DaemonFCit claims to support several file systems, but it only supports Ext2/3/4 somewhat reliably at the end of the dayJun 29 09:41
DaemonFCright now GRUB 2 is back to causing problems with XFSJun 29 09:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SUSE Still Alive, But Far From the Top http://ur1.ca/9l53d #suse #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #opensuse #microsoftJun 29 09:42
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DaemonFCright now it seems to cause a non-fatal filesystem corruption on every boot, which XFS repairs right away as soon as the kernel brings up its own XFS driverJun 29 09:42
*DaemonFC head desksJun 29 09:42
XFaCERoderick: Good on you for raising the UEFI-Internet issueJun 29 09:42
XFaCEoopsJun 29 09:42
XFaCEroy__: Jun 29 09:43
DaemonFCso I'm actually using Ext4 right nowJun 29 09:43
DaemonFCpart of me wants to just get rid of GRUB, install LILO, and be done with itJun 29 09:43
XFaCEThis is the basic plot that has been proposed since the announcement of palladiumJun 29 09:43
Roderickgot all excited for no reasonJun 29 09:43
DaemonFCbut it's one of those things I really don't want to think aboutJun 29 09:43
DaemonFCthe FSF could have caused things to work out much better for distributions if they had licensed it under the GPL 2+Jun 29 09:44
DaemonFCbut they're a bunch of ideologues and playing well with others comes second to getting their own agenda rammed through Jun 29 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Plume's actually kinda good. Fell out of love with TweetDeck.Jun 29 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Which reminds me, had a coupla questions RE: Orange Money @orangekenyaJun 29 09:45
DaemonFCit's not like whether GRUB is GPL 2 or GPL 3 makes much difference at the end of the day except that it makes it impossible to use with Secure Boot, so distributions will just get rid of it and use something elseJun 29 09:46
DaemonFCMISSION ACCOMPLISHEDJun 29 09:46
XFaCEDaemonFC: you realize the slippery slope hereJun 29 09:47
DaemonFCif they want distributions to get rid of GRUB and just use something under the MIT X11 license instead, they just succeededJun 29 09:47
XFaCEDaemonFC: And you want this to happen? REally?Jun 29 09:47
DaemonFCit GRUB had been under the GPL 2, Ubuntu would have kept using GRUBJun 29 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Can another person other than the a/c holder deposit money directly into my Orange Money a/c at an Equity Bank branch/agent? @orangekenyaJun 29 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also, kindly point me to an Orange Money user guide. @orangekenyaJun 29 09:47
DaemonFCI'm saying that I understand what they did given the position the FSF put them inJun 29 09:47
DaemonFCjust because something is under the GPL 3 doesn't mean I won't use it. I have nothing against the GPL 3. Why would I? It puts no restrictions on me because I am a user/recipient.Jun 29 09:49
DaemonFCbut it's probably not the best way to win friends and influence people in some casesJun 29 09:49
XFaCEDaemonFC: Yeah, this incident highlights exactly why the gpl3 worksJun 29 09:49
XFaCEbecause Microsoft had to essentially blackmail others to not use itJun 29 09:49
XFaCEThe last tactic left to Microsoft was the dirty, cheating actionJun 29 09:50
DaemonFChell, there's nothing inherently wrong with Secure Boot as long as the user is free to add/remove keys or turn it on or off at willJun 29 09:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: As Roy pointed out, it will not stop thereJun 29 09:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: Remember when Trusted Computing was being talkinga bout?Jun 29 09:50
DaemonFCI would have to say that I am strongly opposed to the way it's being implemented on ARM hardwareJun 29 09:50
XFaCEAbout needing it in order to access the internet?Jun 29 09:50
DaemonFCwell, EFI itself is pretty nasty with or without Secure BootJun 29 09:51
DaemonFCSecure Boot itself is benign, Microsoft uses the Windows labeling program to make it into something malicious in some casesJun 29 09:51
DaemonFCit CAN just be a security mechanism, but it can also be a form of DRM, stopping the user from using their hardware as they see fitJun 29 09:52
XFaCEDaemonFC: ExactlyJun 29 09:52
XFaCEI can easily see Microsoft extended it to the Internet usageJun 29 09:52
DaemonFCit's like saying you can cut down a tree with a chainsaw or you can attack a person with a chainsawJun 29 09:52
DaemonFCthe chainsaw itself is neither good nor evil, it is a toolJun 29 09:52
DaemonFCthe person using it might be malicious and attack someone with itJun 29 09:53
XFaCEThink of all the gov't initiatives there have been requiring "ID" internet accessJun 29 09:53
DaemonFCthey've already backdoored pretty much all the routers and modems out thereJun 29 09:53
XFaCEDaemonFC: Obviously, I'm only talking about Microsoft's implementation of the uEFIJun 29 09:53
XFaCEDaemonFC: Which is why one installs third-party firmwareJun 29 09:54
DaemonFCit would not be hard for them to subvert your home network and listen in on it if you're also connected to the internet Jun 29 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MOSAID Apparently Extorts Linux, Red Hat Embraces Secrecy Again http://ur1.ca/9l55k #redhat #swpats #us #microsoft #linux #gnuJun 29 09:54
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DaemonFCthey don't really need to bust down your door and seize your PC to get all your filesJun 29 09:55
XFaCEsureJun 29 09:55
DaemonFCall they need is for you to be running networking equipment with nonfree firmware, and preferably a home network between devices running nonfree softwareJun 29 09:55
XFaCEIf you are running non-standard firmware and OSes, the risk is lowered to an extentJun 29 09:55
DaemonFCI don't set up a home network Jun 29 09:56
DaemonFCif I want to move files from one PC to another or to a device, I use a flash driveJun 29 09:56
DaemonFCif I want to print something, I unplug the printer from one system and hook it up to the otherJun 29 09:57
DaemonFCif you use home networking with a networking device they have compromised, they can see all the files in all your locally shared folders, and all the documents you send off to the printer over the networkJun 29 09:57
DaemonFCand if you use Windows, they have access to everything Windows doesJun 29 09:57
formic_Fedora will be using UEFI security to help lock down their packagesJun 29 09:57
DaemonFCregardless of whether you think you've shared it or notJun 29 09:58
formic_That's a good thingJun 29 09:58
formic_I bet you a number of distros will just steal fedora's signed bootloader tooJun 29 09:58
DaemonFCXFaCE: You're right that when you use Windows or OS X your home network is easier to compromise, but if your modem/router are untrustworthy and you're using it to share ANYTHING, you've already lostJun 29 09:59
XFaCEformic_: You mean "copy" the bootloaderJun 29 09:59
formic_XFaCE: sureJun 29 09:59
formic_actually they probably cantJun 29 09:59
formic_i'd assume there is a password required to signJun 29 09:59
formic_however the package system will get a security upgradeJun 29 10:00
formic_im boycotting ubuntu and ubuntu oem systemsJun 29 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] «@TheRealKubz «@KTNKenya High Court revokes President Kibaki's appointment of 47 County Commissioners.»»Jun 29 10:00
DaemonFCI'd be interested in one, maybeJun 29 10:01
formic_they will include canonicals key but not microsofts, so no microsoft signed hardware will work (which is like everything)Jun 29 10:01
DaemonFCat some future point in time when this system fails or just becomes too old to useJun 29 10:01
formic_or just turn off secure bootJun 29 10:01
formic_while your modifying your boot optionsJun 29 10:02
DaemonFCyeahJun 29 10:02
DaemonFCif I ran into problems with it, I'd just shut it offJun 29 10:02
formic_kill two girls with one cup of fecesJun 29 10:02
formic_yeah exactlyJun 29 10:02
formic_its a pain in the ass, its bad that microsoft is now taxing everything, but its not the end of the worldJun 29 10:03
formic_if you look at the numbers, microsoft is making the most money on android right now :(Jun 29 10:03
formic_damn ms taxJun 29 10:03
DaemonFCI love internet banking :)Jun 29 10:03
DaemonFCespecially when the bank tells you that you need Java and Windows XP but I manage somehow anyway with The GimpJun 29 10:04
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 10:04
formic_im glad its not oracle tax + ms taxJun 29 10:04
XFaCEI'm glad my computer doesn't have a TPM or any sort of UEFIJun 29 10:04
XFaCE*usable UEFIJun 29 10:04
formic_xfaceJun 29 10:05
DaemonFCmy bank locks me out unless my browser user agent is on their whitelistJun 29 10:05
formic_you're confusing UEFI with secure bootJun 29 10:05
XFaCEformic_: NoJun 29 10:05
DaemonFCit has to say Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, or Safari somewhere in the user agentJun 29 10:05
formic_secure boot is just a FEATURE sitting on top of UEFIJun 29 10:05
DaemonFCso it will let me log in with Rekonq, but not with OperaJun 29 10:05
XFaCEformic_: What I mean is that I don't have the basis for Secure Boot periodJun 29 10:05
XFaCEformic_: Jun 29 10:05
formic_I have a 4 year old UEFI motherboard with no secure bootJun 29 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Five years of !GPLv3 by @mlinksva http://ur1.ca/9l3dcJun 29 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] That was fast.Jun 29 10:05
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XFaCEformic_: Secure Boot is software, not hardware no?Jun 29 10:06
DaemonFCI sent a letter to the bank about that and a message to Opera asking for them to include my bank on their quirks listJun 29 10:06
formic_secure boot is a featureJun 29 10:06
XFaCEyesJun 29 10:06
DaemonFCtwo years later, the bank hasn't fixed their siteJun 29 10:06
formic_UEFI != badJun 29 10:06
formic_secure boot = badJun 29 10:06
DaemonFCOpera has not added a work aroundJun 29 10:06
XFaCEformic_: YesJun 29 10:06
DaemonFCbut you can go into site preferences and have it report itself as FirefoxJun 29 10:06
formic_UEFI can give you a graphical user interface with networking and mouse support for a BIOS (if mobo companies wanted)Jun 29 10:06
DaemonFCand that worksJun 29 10:07
XFaCEformic_: UEFI, by itself, isolated, is not badJun 29 10:07
XFaCEYou are correctJun 29 10:07
formic_its the damned secure boot featureJun 29 10:07
formic_which can be good if used properlyJun 29 10:07
DaemonFCXFaCE: To give you an idea of how shit tends to linger....Jun 29 10:07
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 10:07
formic_secure boot is a double edged swordJun 29 10:08
formic_microsoft is cutting us with it, but we can cut backJun 29 10:08
DaemonFCin Linux 3.5's Ext3 and Ext4 drivers, they just now removed a mount option that would update your Ext3 journal to the second version of the Ext3 journalJun 29 10:08
DaemonFCwhich has been around since 2002Jun 29 10:08
DaemonFCso unless you have a file system that was created by, like, Linux 2.2 that you haven't mounted in 10 years, you're OKJun 29 10:09
DaemonFCbut if you do have such a file system, better mount it with journal=update on Linux 3.4 first, before moving to Linux 3.5 :)Jun 29 10:09
formic_DaemonFC: couldn't you just mount it as ext2 and migrate your data to a new ext3 or 4 filesystem ?Jun 29 10:09
MinceRi'm not so sure about uefi itselfJun 29 10:09
MinceRit's overcomplicatedJun 29 10:10
DaemonFCmounting it as Ext2 ignores the journal completelyJun 29 10:10
MinceRunnecessarily soJun 29 10:10
formic_DaemonFC: exactlyJun 29 10:10
XFaCEMinceR: I've heard this as wellJun 29 10:10
formic_bios is pretty much unnecessaryJun 29 10:10
formic_just need a way to overclock and change boot orderJun 29 10:11
DaemonFCso if your file system was Ext3 (but not Ext4), you could mount it as Ext2, then remount it as Ext3 or 4, as long as you don't mind clobbering the journal and starting over......Jun 29 10:11
DaemonFCI guess that would work, unless it doesn't :)Jun 29 10:11
formic_too bad amd didnt really love free software, it would be nice to see the amd overdrive utility for linuxJun 29 10:11
DaemonFCExt4 is not mountable as Ext2/3Jun 29 10:12
DaemonFCif you created it with the defaultsJun 29 10:12
formic_DaemonFC: as long as nothing is wrong with the partition, the journal being rebuilt is a non issueJun 29 10:12
DaemonFCif you specified at filesystem creation for it to not use extents, then it is possible to mount it as Ext2/3Jun 29 10:12
formic_DaemonFC: what if you're using reiserfsJun 29 10:12
formic_does that mean your data is burried in a lake somewhere?Jun 29 10:13
DaemonFCsince Extents are really the main point of Ext4, it would be pointless to tell mkfs to create Ext4 without extentsJun 29 10:13
DaemonFCreiserfs is a legacyJun 29 10:13
DaemonFCit's a really bad idea to be using it at this pointJun 29 10:14
DaemonFCit's really poorly maintained and it's not going to ever improveJun 29 10:14
DaemonFCI think it's mainly still there so people using old copies of SUSE can still mount their partitions :)Jun 29 10:14
DaemonFCI never liked ReiserFS in the first placeJun 29 10:15
DaemonFCthe ideas behind it are fucking stupidJun 29 10:15
DaemonFCit loses data, easilyJun 29 10:15
MinceRi don't see why you like ext4, thenJun 29 10:15
DaemonFCit can't be fixedJun 29 10:15
MinceRseveral new features were all about sacrificing data for a bit of performanceJun 29 10:15
DaemonFCit's better than Ext3Jun 29 10:15
DaemonFCthat's not saying muchJun 29 10:16
DaemonFCExt3 always had TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, NO GOOD, REALLY BAD performance problemsJun 29 10:16
MinceRthe only reason i ever used ext4 was the SSD TRIM supportJun 29 10:16
DaemonFCif your file system is making your hard disk noticeably slower than it has to be, you should reconsider your file system Jun 29 10:17
MinceRif your filesystem is regularly losing data and you're ok with that, you don't need a filesystemJun 29 10:17
MinceRyou don't even need a storage device thenJun 29 10:18
XFaCEMinceR: what filesystem do you go by?Jun 29 10:18
MinceRext3Jun 29 10:18
DaemonFCdistributions are going to drop the ext2 and ext3 drivers eventually anywayJun 29 10:18
DaemonFCFedora already hasJun 29 10:18
MinceRgreatJun 29 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Feira Internacional do Artesanato - Apresentação http://goo.gl/LA7lo "o Canivete Português" http://ur1.ca/9l5acJun 29 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] On my way. 600 km in the car. Let's hope it goes quick, without too much traffic.Jun 29 10:19
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DaemonFCthe ext4 driver will mount ext2/3 without changing the on disk format (unless you tell it to!)Jun 29 10:19
MinceRmaybe i'll just go back to debianJun 29 10:19
DaemonFCand so Ext3 picks up *some* of the features of Ext4Jun 29 10:19
DaemonFCbut it still calls itself Ext3 to make YOU happy :)Jun 29 10:19
XFaCEMinceR: Arch man, Arch yoJun 29 10:20
MinceRno wayJun 29 10:20
XFaCEWay yes!Jun 29 10:20
DaemonFCreally at that point if you're worried about extents and allocate on flush trashing your data, you should just make an ext4 partition and turn those offJun 29 10:20
MinceRquestion is, can i trust the ext4 code to manage them as reliablyJun 29 10:21
MinceR(and why would i want to, if i don't need the new "feature"s)Jun 29 10:21
DaemonFCthe new block allocator alone is nice to haveJun 29 10:21
DaemonFCyou would get that if you mounted ext2/3 with the ext4 driverJun 29 10:21
XFaCEMinceR: You could always use XFSJun 29 10:21
DaemonFCthe way the ext2/3 block allocator works is INSANEJun 29 10:22
MinceRi don't really see a reason to move from ext3 to XFSJun 29 10:22
DaemonFCactually, it's beyond insaneJun 29 10:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK> Registos oficiais online vão ficar mais caros http://goo.gl/dOIcG + 1 aldrabice, custos diminuem serviços aumentam! parecem a banca!Jun 29 10:22
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XFaCEMinceR: Or JFS, if you want reliabilityJun 29 10:22
DaemonFCcome to think of it, I'm pretty sure whoever thought of it is in an insane asylum by nowJun 29 10:22
MinceRi don't know JFSJun 29 10:23
XFaCEMinceR: The IBM FS that was ported; originally used with OS/2Jun 29 10:23
DaemonFC(I can't prove that, but people who call the block allocator 100,000 times for a 100 MB file are probably chronic masturbaters who talk to buildings)Jun 29 10:23
MinceRXFaCE: why would i want to use that?Jun 29 10:23
XFaCEMinceR: You apparently want reliability and data integrity above other thingsJun 29 10:24
DaemonFCXFS has really changed a lot recentlyJun 29 10:24
DaemonFCI'd be shocked if it actually lost any data in Linux 3.4Jun 29 10:24
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 10:24
DaemonFCatomic transactions! MUAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!Jun 29 10:24
DaemonFC*including journal updatesJun 29 10:25
MinceRyes, i've heard they wanted to fix journaling for it, probably did it tooJun 29 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Europe Fines #Microsoft for Abuses, But Continues Funnelling Public Money to Microsoft; the Greek Set Fire to Microsoft http://ur1.ca/9l5b6Jun 29 10:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android Distribution and Freedom Challenged by #Apple and Microsoft’s Co-founder http://ur1.ca/9l5bn #swpats #itcJun 29 10:25
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DaemonFCthe on disk format of XFS hasn't changed at all in about 8 years iircJun 29 10:26
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DaemonFCand that change is forward compatible and IRIX was hotfixed to understand itJun 29 10:26
DaemonFCthe driver has changed a lot thoughJun 29 10:26
DaemonFCit has lost a lot of weight :)Jun 29 10:26
DaemonFCat this point it doesn't really duplicate anything that the Linux VFS can doJun 29 10:27
DaemonFCI don't think we're going to see too many more months where it drops by several thousand lines of codeJun 29 10:28
DaemonFCI'm pretty sure that any extra weight it is carrying is for a feature that is unique to XFS at this pointJun 29 10:29
DaemonFCDirecTV and Dish Network are still churning out DVRs that use the realtime subvolume even though that has been officially deprecated for yearsJun 29 10:29
DaemonFCI don't think it will ever be removed as long as people are still using itJun 29 10:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Ext4 can go wrong very fast if you play around with obscure mount or mkfs optionsJun 29 10:31
DaemonFCa lot of those really have no business existingJun 29 10:32
DaemonFCbigalloc is probably the most horrifying thing I've ever seenJun 29 10:32
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 10:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone else had trouble getting http://ur1.ca/57bug to authenticate MapZen for Android via oAuth lately? !osmJun 29 10:32
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DaemonFCI guess 1 MB blocks are alright if you don't mind an unpacked kernel tarball taking 160 GB of space to store a few hundred MB of filesJun 29 10:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 10:33
DaemonFCthat was the example they gave, but you're going to run out of space REAL fast with thatJun 29 10:33
formic_for reliability, I use ZFSJun 29 10:33
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyOTUJun 29 10:35
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DaemonFCwell, it does get along better with kwin, but it's still pretty sadJun 29 10:35
DaemonFCtearing, lousy 2d acceleration, the occasional glitch that causes X to lock upJun 29 10:37
DaemonFCtainted kernelJun 29 10:37
formic_I have Music,Videos,TV,Pictures folders on my home directory that are mounted nfs shares on my zfs boxJun 29 10:37
DaemonFCrunning the hardware from userspaceJun 29 10:37
DaemonFCgiant binary blob Jun 29 10:37
DaemonFCthe open source side is coming along nicely thoughJun 29 10:38
DaemonFCthe progress made since Ubuntu 12.04 was released is already substantialJun 29 10:38
DaemonFCit would be nice if they would take Catalyst out back and shoot itJun 29 10:39
DaemonFCthey're so detached from the people that actually have to use it that it seems like there effectively is nobody supporting itJun 29 10:40
formic_DaemonFC: also waiting for youporngay to switch from flash to html5 ?Jun 29 10:40
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DaemonFCwell, porn being in HTML 5 with open codecs would be fantastic because it would be one less compelling reason to have Trash installedJun 29 10:41
DaemonFCso it's great that we're seeing more smut going to HTML 5Jun 29 10:41
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 10:41
XFaCEFap...in freedomJun 29 10:42
formic_jeezJun 29 10:42
DaemonFCI'm not wild about the MPEG crap (still better than Trash), or having a subdomain called "iphone"Jun 29 10:42
DaemonFCbut...fapfapfapJun 29 10:42
formic_http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyODUJun 29 10:42
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DaemonFCwhat was the topic again? :)Jun 29 10:42
formic_zomgJun 29 10:42
formic_KVM SECURE BOOT!Jun 29 10:42
XFaCEformic_: Secure Boot? In MY KVM?Jun 29 10:42
DaemonFCnow, ideally the porn would be under a free content license so people could share it without worrying about legal blackmailJun 29 10:43
XFaCE(It's more likely that you think. And probably, it's a trap)Jun 29 10:43
DaemonFCthat's probably the biggest problem with porn today if you ask meJun 29 10:43
DaemonFCeven worse than DRM or encumbered codecs or TrashJun 29 10:43
XFaCEThe most pressing issue to every nation ON THE PLANETJun 29 10:43
MinceRlolJun 29 10:43
formic_DaemonFC: didnt you hear? porn is an agenda to degrade society. no porn company has ever sued over people downloading.Jun 29 10:44
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DaemonFChow does porn degrade society?Jun 29 10:44
DaemonFCwhat could be worse than a society of religious fundamentalists?Jun 29 10:44
formic_it turns people into sex objectsJun 29 10:44
formic_promiscuityJun 29 10:44
MinceRwhat is a "sex object"?Jun 29 10:44
DaemonFCreligious fundamentalists tend to turn women into sex objectsJun 29 10:44
formic_leads to unwanted offspringJun 29 10:44
DaemonFCand require genital mutilation ritualsJun 29 10:45
DaemonFCstrange dietary habitsJun 29 10:45
formic_unwanted offspring allows the government to legislate abortionJun 29 10:45
DaemonFCand control over hat wearingJun 29 10:45
XFaCEformic_: No porn company has ever sued downloaders? Are you thick?Jun 29 10:45
formic_once abortion is on the books everywhere, they can start changing the rulesJun 29 10:45
MinceRstrange, there are numerous cases of lots of unwanted offspring without pornJun 29 10:45
DaemonFCit's a very fascist and authoritarian systemJun 29 10:45
MinceRi think denouncing contraception as evil has more to do with unwanted offspring than pornJun 29 10:45
formic_post-birth 'abortions' for people who dont agree with the systemJun 29 10:45
DaemonFCand porn is less damaging to society than religious fundamentalism Jun 29 10:45
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formic_use a condom or close your legsJun 29 10:45
formic_lolJun 29 10:46
MinceRlolJun 29 10:46
DaemonFCand that's really the only argument that needs to be made about pornJun 29 10:46
XFaCEformic_: You realize that pornography in some form has existed pretty much since the beginning of human society?Jun 29 10:46
DaemonFCif it does damage society, it's doing it less than the people who tend to be the most opposed to pornJun 29 10:46
MinceRi don't know if formic_ is seriousJun 29 10:46
formic_XFaCE: name a porn company that has sued downloadersJun 29 10:46
XFaCEformic_: Yeah, the 10000+ year old conspiracyJun 29 10:46
formic_MinceR: half seriousJun 29 10:46
XFaCEformic_: http://torrentfreak.com/you-cant-copyright-porn-bittorrent-defendant-insists-120206/Jun 29 10:47
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DaemonFCthat would be niceJun 29 10:47
DaemonFCan instant treasure trove of unencumbered smutJun 29 10:47
XFaCEMinceR: He's not a fan of abortionJun 29 10:47
formic_XFaCE: lolJun 29 10:47
formic_XFaCE: im surprisedJun 29 10:47
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formic_with so much porn out there, it would be bad PR to stop downloadersJun 29 10:48
formic_hyper competitionJun 29 10:48
MinceRanti-choice person complaining about unwanted offspring? does not computeJun 29 10:48
formic_i was just joking about the conspiracy partJun 29 10:48
XFaCEMinceR: Of course, the argument that pornography will cause people to become casual abortion users is ludicrousJun 29 10:48
DaemonFCI don't know why Christians are opposed to "killing babies"Jun 29 10:48
formic_there are few facts thoughJun 29 10:49
DaemonFCI mean, some of them would grow up to be gay and then the Christians would want to kill themJun 29 10:49
formic_if teenagers get access to porn it will effect their relationshipsJun 29 10:49
formic_my first time having sex was amazing, cause i learned so much from the internet ;)Jun 29 10:49
MinceRwhat's worse, if teenagers get access to people, it will affect their relationshipsJun 29 10:49
MinceRi propose banning peopleJun 29 10:49
DaemonFCbabies are God's way of telling you that you're sticking it in the wrong holeJun 29 10:49
XFaCEDaemonFC: "They would be beneficiaries of a an 'infinite good' from their worldly existence being terminated"Jun 29 10:50
MinceRto protect teenagersJun 29 10:50
DaemonFCbut many people just refuse to listen....Jun 29 10:50
DaemonFCtsk tskJun 29 10:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: (Paraphrased William Lane Craig)Jun 29 10:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Na_wcvqUOYJun 29 10:50
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formic_there are people out there who think its some jewish conspiracy against gentiles to distribute pornJun 29 10:50
formic_i was making fun of themJun 29 10:51
XFaCEahJun 29 10:51
DaemonFCChristians aren't just obscene, they're annoying as all fuckJun 29 10:51
XFaCEDaemonFC: Watch the video for the quote I'm referring tooJun 29 10:51
XFaCE*toJun 29 10:51
MinceRformic_: oh, i seeJun 29 10:51
formic_msb_ right?Jun 29 10:52
formic_im sure you've heard that one too while researching 9/11 and thermite dustJun 29 10:53
DaemonFC"thou shalt not covet thine neighbor's......ass"Jun 29 10:53
DaemonFCdon't worry, I've seen my neighbor's ass, and it is just sadJun 29 10:53
DaemonFC:(Jun 29 10:53
formic_DaemonFC: dont worry god doesnt hate you yet, you dont wear womens garmentsJun 29 10:53
formic_or do you?Jun 29 10:53
DaemonFCit's a comfort thingJun 29 10:54
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 10:54
DaemonFCno, I don'tJun 29 10:54
XFaCEI dressed up as an old lady for Halloween once, does that count?Jun 29 10:54
formic_XFaCE: God already hates you LiberalJun 29 10:54
formic_as Ann Coulter would sayJun 29 10:54
DaemonFCI don't see why it's wrong for a man to wear a woman's clothesJun 29 10:54
DaemonFCalthough I might have to stop to giggle about itJun 29 10:55
DaemonFCnot because I think it's wrong, just because I think that women's clothing doesn't fit most men properlyJun 29 10:55
DaemonFCand that is amusingJun 29 10:55
DaemonFCmost women aren't 6'4" and 200 poundsJun 29 10:56
DaemonFCso most men would look ridiculous in women's clothingJun 29 10:56
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XFaCEformic_: Fuck man, I'm a centristJun 29 10:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1755357Jun 29 10:56
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schestowitzXFaCE: good luck with all thatJun 29 10:56
DaemonFCyou knowJun 29 10:57
XFaCEAGHHH!!! schestowitz comes alive!!Jun 29 10:57
schestowitzit's midnight!Jun 29 10:57
XFaCEschestowitz: With all what?Jun 29 10:57
DaemonFCI'm OK with how people live their lives as long as they aren't hurting other peopleJun 29 10:57
XFaCEschestowitz: No it's not, you communistJun 29 10:57
DaemonFCor coercing other peopleJun 29 10:57
DaemonFCor taking other people's property to do it with (including money)Jun 29 10:57
XFaCESubmit to the RIGHT way, the WESTERN way, schestowitz Jun 29 10:57
XFaCEand the RIGHT WESTERN way says it's midday!Jun 29 10:58
XFaCEThere can be no other perspectives or reality, obviouslyJun 29 10:58
formic_XFaCE: a centrist?Jun 29 10:58
formic_wth is thatJun 29 10:58
schestowitzwhat's the Western way?Jun 29 10:59
schestowitzThere are many aspects to itJun 29 10:59
schestowitzIP, democracy, equality, etc.Jun 29 11:00
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schestowitznot that those are preserved or make senseJun 29 11:00
formic_I'm an anarcho-explorationistJun 29 11:00
schestowitzhi jonoJun 29 11:00
jonohey schestowitzJun 29 11:00
XFaCE[10:55] <schestowitz> XFaCE: good luck with all that ?Jun 29 11:00
XFaCEI'm stil awaiting clarificationJun 29 11:00
formic_an anarcho-explorationist advocates leaving the planet and exploring the universe without the need for earth governmentJun 29 11:01
XFaCEformic_: Just invest in Zephram CochraneJun 29 11:01
DaemonFCnow, jono, there's a guy who wears womens clothingJun 29 11:01
DaemonFChe's probably making a woman suit right as we speak!Jun 29 11:01
formic_XFaCE: that'll lead to the United Nations/FederationJun 29 11:01
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 11:01
XFaCEformic_: Replicators and holodecks? sounds pretty niceJun 29 11:02
formic_the federation are just a bunch of peace loving pussiesJun 29 11:02
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XFaCEShut it Romulan!Jun 29 11:02
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XFaCEfuck jono, make up your mind!!Jun 29 11:02
XFaCEShit or get off the can.Jun 29 11:02
formic_XFaCE: ill just find an Orion slave girl =)Jun 29 11:02
jonololJun 29 11:02
DaemonFCI liked the idea of The DoctorJun 29 11:03
schestowitzwhat's rather disturbing is the excessive sleep last night. I must also rush this weekend to release some Android code.Jun 29 11:03
XFaCEformic_: No human male can resist themJun 29 11:03
DaemonFCand later when he could become the Emergency Command HologramJun 29 11:03
XFaCEformic_: Of course, if that episode had been in the 90s, it may have been changed to "no human"Jun 29 11:03
XFaCEThat's sounds awesomeJun 29 11:03
formic_i thought human females were immuneJun 29 11:03
XFaCEformic_: That was never specifiedJun 29 11:04
schestowitzGermany lost, now I have no interest in the cup (neither finalist do I care for)Jun 29 11:04
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/94990282Jun 29 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Jason Self (jxself)'s status on Thursday, 28-Jun-12 14:54:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The !Ubuntu / Canonical position is not based in reality.Jun 29 11:04
XFaCEformic_: I think Enterprise allowed women to be influened tooJun 29 11:04
nj3mahi schestowitz,Jun 29 11:06
DaemonFCI love how the NX-01 looked more advanced than the ships in TOSJun 29 11:06
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 11:06
formic_XFaCE: pheromonesJun 29 11:06
XFaCEDaemonFC: AkirapriseJun 29 11:06
XFaCEformic_: "The crewmembers seem obviously distracted by the very seductive women: the men begin competing with one another and exhibit aggressive behavior, while female crew-members experience intense headaches."Jun 29 11:06
formic_seeJun 29 11:07
XFaCEdamnJun 29 11:07
XFaCE"T'Pol tells Tucker that he is unaffected by the pheromones because, since Tucker and T'Pol have "mated", he is bound psychically to her, and thus he enjoys the immunity granted by her Vulcan physiology. "Jun 29 11:07
formic_star trek nerd fantasy: T'Pol and 7of9 in a 3 wayJun 29 11:07
XFaCEWith Troi?Jun 29 11:07
formic_that would be a 4 wayJun 29 11:08
formic_including yourselfJun 29 11:08
XFaCEOr you could sit and watchJun 29 11:08
formic_troi i dunnoJun 29 11:08
formic_not enough boobageJun 29 11:08
XFaCElolJun 29 11:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] LinuxCon North America Alumni - 20% discount on reg fees today only. Register w/ code: ALUM12NA: http://ur1.ca/9l5jiJun 29 11:09
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schestowitznj3ma: hey mateJun 29 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So MapZen was discontinued. #ni Vespucci for Android #osmJun 29 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I see potatoes and animal flesh in conjunction with curry powder and alcohol. I have foreseen Identica night lo! It is a miracle.Jun 29 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Countries That Don't Put In Place Copyright Regimes The US Likes May Be Deemed 'Cybersecurity Concerns' - http://bit.ly/LVEjcJ ah, the stickJun 29 11:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe Reaches Agreement On Unitary Patent - http://bit.ly/NKmqMG bad news; here's why - http://bit.ly/MpydnAJun 29 11:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1753403Jun 29 11:23
schestowitz"But much later they found knoledge and became anarchists."Jun 29 11:23
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1754334Jun 29 11:23
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schestowitz"One of the answers is bigotry and racism. People have been told that their neighbors are neither worthy nor capable of bearing an education. Instead of investing in schools, these people build walls and jails. It wastes lives and resources."Jun 29 11:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WTO Rules Against Yet Another U.S. Consumer Protection Policy - http://bit.ly/MvwEEG "will only intensify public opposition to #TPP"Jun 29 11:24
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1749996Jun 29 11:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nine Reasons to Choose GNOME 2 Clones http://www.datamation.com/open-source/nine-reasons-to-choose-gnome-2-clones-1.html #gnome #gnu #linuxJun 29 11:25
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schestowitz""But, compared today to KDE, GNOME 3 and Unity, all of which require a gigabyte of RAM for decent performance..." - yesterday installed Chakra linux on old PC with one core and 512 MB ram, forks fine with kde. "Customizable Panel" - kde has it. Author is drunk or smth?"Jun 29 11:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Good News For Spies and Dictators: ‘FreedomBox’ Is in Danger of an Early Death - http://bit.ly/McKM6q not good #moglenJun 29 11:25
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1753829Jun 29 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Red Hat's announcements became utterly boring. It's all nonsense about "Virtualization" and "Cloud".Jun 29 11:26
schestowitz"KVM is useful and we might see the revenge of "network computing" as a way to roll out gnu/linux in large companies."Jun 29 11:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jdebeckker Mij ook al zot gezocht. Moet je speciaal bestellen naar verluidtJun 29 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big e-reader is watching you - http://bit.ly/MEU6xf something to bear in mind #ebooksJun 29 11:29
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formic_virtio ftwJun 29 11:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Websites Deemed 'Place Of Public Accommodation' Under ADA; Expects Lots Of Sites To Get Sued - http://bit.ly/KR1Pdd crazy copyright probs?Jun 29 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Supposed to learn how to bake a cake by Dec. So, good folk, what goes into a blackforest?Jun 29 11:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: Cloud virtualization helps IT departments unlock potential for expanded operational efficiency and market utilizationJun 29 11:41
DaemonFCdont'cha know? :)Jun 29 11:41
DaemonFCjono knowsJun 29 11:42
DaemonFCyou walk into his apartment and it's just one giant cloudJun 29 11:42
DaemonFCjono's boss is a little cranky thoughJun 29 11:43
DaemonFC"#$%@ing Red Hat, get off my cloud!"Jun 29 11:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I would like you all to know that my upstairs freezer is defrosting. #dripJun 29 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And blackout. :-(Jun 29 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Europe Reaches Agreement On Unitary Patent - http://bit.ly/NKmqMG bad news; here's why - http://bit.ly/MpydnAJun 29 11:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.thestarpress.com/article/C7/20120629/LIFESTYLE/306290003/When-times-get-tough-tattoos-come-off?odyssey=nav|headJun 29 11:54
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DaemonFCyeah, you have to "look right"*Jun 29 11:54
DaemonFC*as determined by your employerJun 29 11:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Club Edge. Jun 29 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Google plans to ease the Android update problem (The H) http://ur1.ca/9l5tyJun 29 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PartedMagic update adds proprietary #NVIDIA driver option http://ur1.ca/9l5uc #gnu #linuxJun 29 12:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] $199 Google #Nexus7 tablet has only 5.92GB of free memory and no micro SD card slot http://goo.gl/Pxfiw #failJun 29 12:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The weird codenames of #Linux kernels http://ur1.ca/9l5uf #kernelJun 29 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > BlackBerry com Windows 8 a caminho? http://goo.gl/CPxS2 #rim mas mas não vêem o caso #msnokia? mais cego é aquele que se recusa a verJun 29 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #patents RT @glynmoody: Europe Reaches Agreement On Unitary Patent - http://bit.ly/NKmqMG bad news; here's why - http://bit.ly/MpydnAJun 29 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Big e-reader is watching you - http://bit.ly/MEU6xf something to bear in mind #ebooksJun 29 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Europe Fines #Microsoft for Abuses, But Continues Funnelling Public Money to Microsoft; the Greek Set Fire to Microsoft ...Jun 29 12:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon !identiverseJun 29 12:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've just found out the reason upgrading !Trisquel is taking so long is that the upgrade *removed* a necessary 'proprietary' driver #FAILJun 29 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @diablod3 Over 130 Representatives Spell Out Their Concerns With TPP In Letter To Ron Kirk http://ur1.ca/9l0pmJun 29 12:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If I wanted to allow an OS to REMOVE anything from my computer, I'd still be using #Windows. I am unimaginably disappointed in !TrisquelJun 29 12:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95021211Jun 29 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Friday, 29-Jun-12 16:29:34 UTC - linuxwrangling: @schestowitz aah yes, good old homicidal dwarf hamster.Jun 29 12:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95020939Jun 29 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 29-Jun-12 16:18:51 UTC - Identi.ca: The weird codenames of #Linux kernels  http://ur1.ca/9l5uf #kernelJun 29 12:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The driver that offended !Trisquel #FAIL was free enough for the previous versions. I'm bloody lucky to have a netbook to use right now.Jun 29 12:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening @theru :)Jun 29 12:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum @laurelrusswurm Where’s HAL when you need him :)Jun 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon @skplJun 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @BreakingNews: European court upholds Microsoft fine, cuts it by 39 million euros to 860 million euros ($1.1 billion) - @APJun 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @ECspokesRyan: Court has upheld the Commission's Microsoft interopability case and fine from 2008. (fine now €860 million) + we r wor ...Jun 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: A wake-up call for the media sector - http://t.co/owI6ejRY #eBooks #EUMFF12 #digitalsinglemarketJun 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Care about future of media in digital age? Read this: I will be http://t.co/AlKcXD5b http://t.co/owI6ejRYJun 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @rlarno not from Sunday! your #roaming data price will go down from €3.63/MB to a max of €0.84. THAT is the value of #EUJun 29 12:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] #EUParliament promotes mandatory e-Call emergency system (video http://t.co/PI59hxNC), as @NeelieKroesEU proposed 2011 http://t.co/yna8VKkFJun 29 12:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Revealed: the scale of sexual abuse by #police officers - http://bit.ly/KHZyMI awful (v @PoliceStateUK @bc_tmh)Jun 29 12:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I could understand it if !Trisquel chose not to access it; what I can't condone is taking it off *my* computer. That's not freedom.Jun 29 12:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Not just withdrawal of hardware support, REMOVAL of driver !Trisquel #FAILJun 29 12:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good ... evening? @insciusJun 29 12:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] #EUParliament promotes mandatory e-Call emergency system (video http://t.co/PI59hxNC), as @NeelieKroesEU proposed 2011 http://t.co/yna8VKkFJun 29 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: And sorry to miss you too @AlecJRoss so pleased you are back inspiring us in Brussels #EUJun 29 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Nick @pinkfloyd - sorry I missed you today at Parliament. Let's catch up next time (and don't be so modest!)Jun 29 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Great conference on media pluralism in the dig age. Had the pleasure to talk about challenges & way fwd, speech online...Jun 29 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: My speech today on media freedom & pluralism http://t.co/3ZAWp5UP. It's about democracy, freedom, Europe. #nmf27Jun 29 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: "if aim is to separate media from governments... risk is that regulation does opposite". http://t.co/fmzJ66NG #nmf27Jun 29 12:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] At Czech Interior Ministry today, being briefed on #egovernment systems. Ambitious architecture and impressive usage figuresJun 29 12:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] When moving all companies to secure electronic document exchange Czech government discovered about 25% of companies didn't exist anymore...Jun 29 12:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: While #eBooks boom around world, Europe shoots itself in the foot. Me in @commentisfree: http://t.co/oLqgBYPd...Jun 29 12:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: As of this Sunday: wave goodbye to mobile internet rip-offs when #roaming in the EU http://t.co/wTpY4EO9Jun 29 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @bjkbrocker: Watch @NeelieKroesEU fantastic talk about "Open Culture" and the future for collections http://t.co/migJevKFJun 29 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @teirdes new caps are much lower than what many currently offer - and will go down yet further in subsequent yrs #roamingJun 29 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: #ff @lindaliukas @babgi @jangulliksen @GerganaPassy @digivaardig @alesspetic @MTDigitalChamp @Marthalanefox...Jun 29 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: complete list of #digital champions here https://t.co/UUaAmhzw http://t.co/P6GoRtswJun 29 12:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Agreement On EU Unitary Patent Reached - http://bit.ly/N2VvyD good detailed analysis (v @netzpolitik)Jun 29 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Weekend Project: Math, Science, and Ubuntu Come Together in Mathbuntu bit.ly/OJilhV #linuxJun 29 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @glynmoody Revealed: the scale of sexual abuse by #police officers - http://bit.ly/KHZyMI awful (v @PoliceStateUK @bc_tmh)Jun 29 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Be angry at bankers, be angrier at economists http://goo.gl/hC7KzJun 29 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk maybe she didn't even see the question. I recall she got mad at me for stating @rms's position once, and blocked meJun 29 13:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Be angry at bankers, be angrier at economists | Ann Pettifor | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 201.47 KBJun 29 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "For British banks there has been nothing like it since they almost went bankrupt in 2008." #LIBOR #funnyJun 29 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk but the reason I'm curious is that I don't recall having ever disabled a driver that worked in previous releases of Linux-libreJun 29 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 12 signed up for #SchoolofOpen Challenges Workshop in Berlin, 26 July. In the area? RSVP now: http://bit.ly/NedmD2 #OERJun 29 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk now, Trisquel installs kernel patches on top of Linux-libre, so it's not impossible that the change was in one of themJun 29 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Mario Balotelli as a black Italian hero: long may it last http://goo.gl/ega6iJun 29 13:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How #PFI is crippling the #NHS http://goo.gl/Q58TeJun 29 13:09
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DaemonFCthat's better...Jun 29 13:11
DaemonFCfixed a drip leak in my toilet tankJun 29 13:11
DaemonFCit's amazing how annoying a drip sound can beJun 29 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 2012 Paris ‪#OER‬ Declaration passed UNESCO. Read @cgreen's wrapup & full declaration: http://bit.ly/LFJqzs ‪#openpolicy‬Jun 29 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer http://is.gd/kROKR3Jun 29 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk much longer ago than 3.0, actually. I don't know of openfwwf failing. clearly we need more info.Jun 29 13:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Websites Deemed 'Place Of Public Accommodation' Under The ADA; Expects Lots Of Sites To Get Sued http://is.gd/PK03nrJun 29 13:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) Alpha 2 Released! http://ur1.ca/9l64b #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 29 13:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Countries That Don't Put In Place Copyright Regimes The US Likes May Be Deemed 'Cybersecurity Concerns' http://is.gd/dRC0rgJun 29 13:20
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DaemonFChttp://hagerstownsmiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cat-dentist-toothbrush1.jpgJun 29 13:22
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DaemonFClolJun 29 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tomorrow is the last day to submit to the art competition of Liberated Pixel Cup! http://ur1.ca/9l639 Style guide here http://ur1.ca/9fbqmJun 29 13:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anonymous Courtroom Notes Raise Serious Questions About #SurfTheChannel Conviction http://is.gd/7WDvELJun 29 13:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @inscius Bullshit Man - best superhero ever http://youtu.be/tmERX0tTIUUJun 29 13:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk sure, that's why we need more info, for the driver is there. how about the openfwwf pkg, and /lib/firmware/b43*/*.fw?Jun 29 13:27
DaemonFCschestowitz: I did some checking around the house to see if there were any more yellow jacket nests and I found a large oneJun 29 13:29
DaemonFCnuked it B-)Jun 29 13:30
DaemonFCI had most of the can of raid left from taking out that nest they were starting on my carJun 29 13:30
*DaemonFC has never seen many yellow jackets around hereJun 29 13:30
DaemonFChope this isn't the start of somethingJun 29 13:30
schestowitz!google yellow jacketJun 29 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Yellowjacket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YellowjacketJun 29 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - HVAC Tools and Refrigeration Supplies | YELLOW JACKET ... | http://www.yellowjacket.com/Jun 29 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Yellowjackets and Other Social Wasp Management Guidelines--UC ... | http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7450.htmlJun 29 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Types of Bees - Hornets, Yellow Jackets, Wasps & Ground, Bumble ... | http://www.thebeehunter.com/types-of-bees.htmlJun 29 13:30
DaemonFCthey're a type of waspJun 29 13:31
schestowitzdidn't know..Jun 29 13:31
schestowitznever got stung by any, was lucky..Jun 29 13:31
DaemonFCthey're horribleJun 29 13:31
schestowitzaggressive? Trigger-happy?Jun 29 13:31
DaemonFCthey're very territorial, extremely aggressiveJun 29 13:31
DaemonFCcan sting you as many times as they wantJun 29 13:31
schestowitzFriends get all frantic when one stalks me, esp. around the eyes?Jun 29 13:31
DaemonFCand they tend to swarmJun 29 13:32
schestowitzoh, not kamikaze ones?Jun 29 13:32
schestowitzwith kamikaze-like ones you really have to try to attack them for them to sting youJun 29 13:32
DaemonFCI opened my trunk and several of them came flying out after meJun 29 13:32
schestowitzLike sitting on oneJun 29 13:32
DaemonFCI was lucky enough to get awayJun 29 13:32
schestowitzlolJun 29 13:32
schestowitzI would pay to see itJun 29 13:33
schestowitzfrom a distant the wasps are not visibleJun 29 13:33
DaemonFCflying things with stingers must dieJun 29 13:33
schestowitzso you''d basically look like Dawn after a night outJun 29 13:33
schestowitzso where would honey come from?Jun 29 13:33
DaemonFCwell, I found a $1 off coupon for "Hot Shot wasp and hornet killer" from the newspaperJun 29 13:33
schestowitzThe artificial ones are crap?Jun 29 13:33
schestowitzI want the real bee pukeJun 29 13:34
DaemonFCand today was double coupon day at the storeJun 29 13:34
schestowitzaka honeyJun 29 13:34
DaemonFCso I got a huge can of the stuff for like $2Jun 29 13:34
schestowitzit's good in your water supply, tooJun 29 13:34
schestowitzbetter than frackingJun 29 13:34
DaemonFCit says you shouldn't use it if it's raining outsideJun 29 13:35
DaemonFCI don't know why it would matterJun 29 13:35
schestowitzdoes it evaporate?Jun 29 13:35
DaemonFCmustJun 29 13:35
schestowitzMaybe they think it can get in the eyes if mixed with liquidJun 29 13:35
DaemonFCif it stayed on the ground, eventually it would rain and wash it into the storm drainJun 29 13:35
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DaemonFCit works well enoughJun 29 13:36
schestowitzhow do you know?Jun 29 13:36
schestowitzif it's flammable, use it with a match, make a flame-throwerJun 29 13:36
schestowitzburn the jacketsJun 29 13:36
DaemonFCsome of it gets on a wasp, it falls out of the air, deadJun 29 13:36
DaemonFChttp://www.hotshot.com/Products-and-Solutions/Aero-Wasp-Hornet/Wasp-Hornet.aspxJun 29 13:37
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schestowitzi bet you go lik a kid now , hopping happily in the forst looking for ones to killJun 29 13:37
schestowitzavengeJun 29 13:37
DaemonFCyeah, that's itJun 29 13:37
schestowitzpayback timeJun 29 13:37
schestowitzit's probably manufactured in some southern state by poor peopleJun 29 13:38
DaemonFCyeah, but they vote for Republicans so they don't deserve to liveJun 29 13:38
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 13:38
schestowitzso they take up all the toxins, die before retirement without health insurance, and can never sue the makerJun 29 13:38
schestowitzor maybe in IndiaJun 29 13:38
schestowitzLike BhopalJun 29 13:38
DaemonFCwe don't need anyone who actually voted for George W. BushJun 29 13:39
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_jacketJun 29 13:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Friday http://ur1.ca/9l67oJun 29 13:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @laquadrature [en][TechDirt] ACTAfacts? ACTAfiction? Or Just Unsourced Pro-ACTA Propaganda Purporting To Be Objective? http://lqdn.fr ...Jun 29 13:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: La Quadrature du Net | Internet & Libertés .::. Size~: 30.69 KBJun 29 13:39
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TwoYearNest.jpgJun 29 13:39
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schestowitzlooks like an elephant's doucheJun 29 13:39
DaemonFCthese things are wickedJun 29 13:39
schestowitzrepublicans?Jun 29 13:40
iophkYellow jacketsJun 29 13:41
schestowitzsame thing; you think they give you honey, but they just bite you in the arse every timeJun 29 13:41
DaemonFC"In the southeastern United States, where southern yellowjacket (Vespula squamosa) nests may persist through the winter, colony sizes of this species may reach 100,000 adult wasps."Jun 29 13:41
iophkNo honey from yellow jackets, just multiple stingsJun 29 13:41
DaemonFCdoes ANYTHING good happen there?Jun 29 13:41
DaemonFCyou'd think the state would go out and fucking kill those things at some pointJun 29 13:42
DaemonFCthey're hardly endangeredJun 29 13:42
schestowitzno snakes in the UKJun 29 13:42
schestowitz!google whacking dayJun 29 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Whacking Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whacking_DayJun 29 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Whackingday.com | http://www.whackingday.com/Jun 29 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Whacking Day - Simpsons Wiki | http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Whacking_DayJun 29 13:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Simpsons Episode 420 Whacking Day | Watch cartoons online ... | http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-episode-420-whacking-dayJun 29 13:42
DaemonFCno raccoons eitherJun 29 13:43
DaemonFCaccording to WikipediaJun 29 13:43
iophkYellow jackets sting just because you happen to be in the vicinity.Jun 29 13:44
iophkWoe to you if you actually disturb the nest.Jun 29 13:44
schestowitz"Snakes are protected by law. All snakes in the UK are protected under The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981"Jun 29 13:44
schestowitzhttp://www.woking.gov.uk/planning/envhealthservice/pest/snakesJun 29 13:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Seen a snake? - Woking Borough Council .::. Size~: 19.31 KBJun 29 13:45
schestowitz"It is illegal to kill or injure native snakes."Jun 29 13:45
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iophk"In fact, hogs like to eat snakes, slurping them up like spaghetti."Jun 29 13:46
iophkhttp://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1817&dat=19820227&id=nSUdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TqUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2294,5744882Jun 29 13:46
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schestowitzhttp://www.woking.gov.uk/planning/envhealthservice/pest/beeJun 29 13:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bewildered by bees? - Woking Borough Council .::. Size~: 15.73 KBJun 29 13:46
schestowitz"Workers concentrate on collecting food and they are essential pollinators."Jun 29 13:46
iophkActual honey bees are a valuable find.Jun 29 13:46
schestowitz"The sting of a bee is different from a wasp sting as the bee leaves the stinger, with the venom sac attached, sticking in the victim."Jun 29 13:47
DaemonFCschestowitz's queen isn't fertle or colonizingJun 29 13:47
DaemonFCbut she did get Big Ben renamed after herselfJun 29 13:47
schestowitz"These are common in May and June, and bees usually remain in the same place for a maximum of two days before moving on to take up permanent residence."Jun 29 13:47
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 13:47
DaemonFC*fertile Jun 29 13:47
schestowitz"Bees are not considered pests and can bring new life to the flowering plants in their area. If you have any special worries, for example an allergy to bee stings or concern for your family, a pest control contractor or beekeeper can give advice about control methods."Jun 29 13:48
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DaemonFCyeah, bees aren't so badJun 29 13:48
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DaemonFCbees are pretty reluctant to sting Jun 29 13:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk already rebooted, loaded old kernel w/o good results - gui can't get to the log in screen ... stuck with a terminal #notgoodJun 29 13:49
schestowitzthey wear allegiance to their queen, like UK coppersJun 29 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux desktop, thanks to Chromebooks, goes retail http://ur1.ca/9l69j #linuxJun 29 13:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1757680Jun 29 13:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Canonical : “ #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Adoption Grew 160 Per Cent In India Last Year” http://news.efytimes.com/e1/86247/Ubuntu-Adoption-Grew--Per-Cent-In-India-Last-Year #freedom #indiaJun 29 13:59
schestowitz"Nice to see Ubuntu adoption growing in India!"Jun 29 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: Build the Perfect Bug Out Bag: Your 72-Hour Disaster Survival Kit (9781440318740) #Books http://goo.gl/UeSOK #preppers #bobJun 29 14:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: Build the Perfect Survival Kit (0046081009679): John D. McCann: #Books http://goo.gl/UcfJU #preppers #bobJun 29 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Going to @_defcon_? We can level up the @effsummit fundraiser. We have the technology: https://eff.org/r.4admJun 29 14:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] “We Are Preparing For Massive Civil War,” Says #DHS Informant http://goo.gl/Qda8U #preppersJun 29 14:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “We Are Preparing For Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant (NYSEARCA:GLD, NYSEARCA:SLV, NYSEARCA:UUP, NYSEARCA:UDN) | ETF DAILY NEWS .::. Size~: 191.19 KBJun 29 14:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @BarryDyke if yr provider is overcharging u it's got nothing 2 do w/ #EU- use yr feet, know yr power! Prices cut in...Jun 29 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » SWAT Team Throws Flashbangs, Raids Wrong Home Due to Open WiFi Network http://goo.gl/Ofmxs #usa #policestateJun 29 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @BarryDyke if yr provider is overcharging u it's got nothing 2 do w/ #EU- use yr feet, k http://p.ost.im/p/e3gdNAJun 29 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk the firmware exists (in folder) and b43 is in the message - identified as broadcom 4306 WLANJun 29 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk iwconfig sees wlan0 but no IP addressJun 29 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice 3.6 Bug Hunting Party on July 6 and 7: http://ur1.ca/9l6g5Jun 29 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Ad biz claims it must disregard user #privacy choices to safeguard cybersecurity https://eff.org/r.5aepJun 29 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk so what happened to the stuff in /etc/network/interfacesJun 29 14:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Vinyl cutting on Linux: the real deal (Libre Graphics World) http://ur1.ca/9l6gwJun 29 14:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 3.6 Bug Hunting Party - July 6 & 7 .::. Size~: 7.84 KBJun 29 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk success! now ... where did the gui go? Get the splash screen and I see the Trisquel but its not pulsingJun 29 14:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @dozykraut EU Software-Patent "inventors" by country http://j.mp/LVQBlx if this doesn't scare EU SMEs, nothing will. ‪#swpats‬Jun 29 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Live Q&A With Rick Falkvinge & Christian Engstrom Concerning 'The Case For Copyright Reform' http://is.gd/XIndN5Jun 29 14:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] David Chaum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://goo.gl/65ZwN #cryptoJun 29 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Turkey's army gathers on #Syria.n border | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/1sTN4 #nato #stateterrorismJun 29 14:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Softwarepatente in Europa - Worum geht es? - http://bit.ly/OK0Fmu lots of good background (v @dozykraut) #swpatsJun 29 14:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk have connectivity ...Jun 29 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk that's fine... you've helped a lot, good progress -- enjoy the beach!Jun 29 14:39
formic_DaemonFC: I was channeling with my scrabble tiles, I got a message for you from the Archonic beingsJun 29 14:41
formic_DaemonFC: "Stop being a fag"Jun 29 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk there is no gdm3 just gdmJun 29 14:42
DaemonFCsomething is wrong with ktorrent Jun 29 14:43
DaemonFCmagnet no worky :(Jun 29 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk thanks! now *go to the beach* (with sunscreen :)Jun 29 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk :)Jun 29 14:44
formic_http://www.transmissionbt.com/Jun 29 14:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk no gdm running ... it claims to be starting but nothing happensJun 29 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Preparing lots of code for upload this week... http://ur1.ca/9l6ktJun 29 14:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @OpenAccessEC: "Partial reporting of results of CT obscures relationships between cause and effect. We should publish all data" http: ...Jun 29 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk every time error message in dmesg gdm main process terminated with status 1Jun 29 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who needs in-body #RFID when using the Orwellian style-named "PATRIOT Act" the US/NSA tracks your head anywhere you go? http://ur1.ca/9l6l5Jun 29 14:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Heck yeah I'd buy a Google Glass prototype | ZDNet .::. Size~: 158.13 KBJun 29 14:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when money is tight, public services being cut all over the place, now we award Charlie an 11% wage rise? WTF? #Monarchy #parasitesJun 29 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cellular network carriers in the #UK are not providing quick government queries for the US, unlike Google's datacentres and US carriers.Jun 29 14:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It was recently revealed that coordinates provided by one's cellphone are used by drones to shoot their missiles into #imperialism #spacewarJun 29 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Cellular network carriers in the #UK are not providing quick government queries for the US, unlike Google's datacentres ...Jun 29 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb when money is tight, public services being cut all over the place, now we award Charlie an 11% wage rise? WTF? #Monarchy ...Jun 29 14:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you are not a terrorist, worry not about drones (unless you live in the 'wrong' country) because only "we" have them http://ur1.ca/9l6llJun 29 14:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Drone attacks in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 803.34 KBJun 29 14:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron "crimes in banking must be punished" (with a light slap on the wrist as a PR soother, so we don't close future exploit loopholes)Jun 29 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @thistleweb when money is tight, public services being cut all over the place, now we award Charlie an 11% wage rise? WTF? #Monarchy ...Jun 29 15:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is to thank the very brilliant @tekk for extremely helpful problem solving; in hopes he has a great (well deserved) day at the beach :)Jun 29 15:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'd guess the Volstead Act, @whistlewright @lnxwalt280Jun 29 15:05
iophkhttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228674/Google_exec_claims_Chrome_is_the_world_s_most_popular_browserJun 29 15:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google exec claims Chrome is the world's most popular browser - Computerworld .::. Size~: 144.38 KBJun 29 15:09
formic_yeahJun 29 15:10
formic_google isJun 29 15:10
formic_er chrome isJun 29 15:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: RT @dozykraut EU Software-Patent "inventors" by country http://j.mp/LVQBlx if this doesn't scare EU SMEs, nothing willJun 29 15:10
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iophkAndroid installation have to count for a lot.Jun 29 15:11
formic_android doesnt come with chrome by defaultJun 29 15:11
formic_it comes with some jabroni browserJun 29 15:12
MinceRthe rock's browser?Jun 29 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @laurens_vdp: Gogo!! #firstsight #bemyappBE http://t.co/HRLJicaoJun 29 15:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Proud to have Sacha in the board of iRail RT @laurens_vdp: Gogo!! #firstsight #bemyappBE http://t.co/RaXGdML2Jun 29 15:12
iophkDoes Chrome get picked first because C come before F in the list?Jun 29 15:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / laurens_vdp: Gogo!! #firstsight #bemyap .::. Size~: 78.81 KBJun 29 15:12
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formic_iophk what list?Jun 29 15:13
formic_MinceR: lolJun 29 15:13
formic_http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jabroniJun 29 15:14
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iophkApp store or whatever it is called.Jun 29 15:14
formic_iophk: what are you sorting byJun 29 15:14
formic_top free apps?Jun 29 15:14
iophkSorting by name.Jun 29 15:14
formic_firefox is usually above chromeJun 29 15:14
formic_how do you sort by nameJun 29 15:14
iophkI still use a feature phone.  It hasn't worn out yet.Jun 29 15:15
formic_https://play.google.com/store/appsJun 29 15:15
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formic_ahhhJun 29 15:15
formic_there is no sort by name, if there was obviously chrome would be firstJun 29 15:15
formic_its not android boosting chromes numbersJun 29 15:16
formic_firefox has 75k votes, and chrome has 35k votes (on play store)Jun 29 15:17
iophkGoogle Play appears to make no differentiation between gratis and liberty.  When I saw 'Free' apps, I immediately assumed FLOSS but most of it is freeware tripe.Jun 29 15:18
formic_opera has 296kJun 29 15:18
formic_iophk: yeahJun 29 15:18
formic_'free' as in free beerJun 29 15:18
iophkSome of the free are crippleware or something similar.Jun 29 15:18
formic_when did google ever give a shit about liberty?Jun 29 15:19
formic_people just fap about android because its linuxJun 29 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz If you are not a terrorist, worry not about drones (unless you live in the 'wrong' country) because only "we" have them ...Jun 29 15:19
formic_even though it has all the same shit you'd find on windowsJun 29 15:19
formic_including anti virusJun 29 15:19
formic_the alternatives? the even worse iOS or Windows 8Jun 29 15:19
formic_im even running winamp on androidJun 29 15:20
formic_lolJun 29 15:20
formic_WINampJun 29 15:20
iophkNo Clementine or Rhythmbox?Jun 29 15:21
formic_on android?Jun 29 15:21
formic_noJun 29 15:21
formic_have you ever seen or used android?Jun 29 15:21
iophkI'm not seeing any 'free' apps on their list that I would want to install.  No I had not seen it yet and my impression of Android was truly mistaken. Jun 29 15:21
formic_yes it wasJun 29 15:21
iophkI thought it would be more like Meego or MaemoJun 29 15:22
formic_android only has one thing in common with linuxJun 29 15:22
formic_the kernelJun 29 15:22
formic_it doesnt even use GNU stuffJun 29 15:22
iophkIt looks like it could be a closed system built around the linux kernel.Jun 29 15:22
iophkRIght I knew it did not use GNU.Jun 29 15:22
formic_android 3.x was a closed systemJun 29 15:22
formic_they only opened the code again after 4.0Jun 29 15:22
formic_the best comparision is this: Google Android is to Linux, as OSX is to FreeBSDJun 29 15:23
iophkOICJun 29 15:23
MinceRis there a free software package manager/"app store" for android already?Jun 29 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was loathe to scratch out Windows logo on keyboard as it lights up. It looks even better now with black tape on super user key.Jun 29 15:24
formic_the main difference though now is that google contributes to linux, and apple forked freebsd into darwinJun 29 15:24
iophkThere are a lot of gambling apps.  I notice there's no Go client yet.  A Go network could get a lot of money if it were tied to betting on games or something like that.Jun 29 15:26
iophkDarwin is kind of free, just that OS X is locked down derivative of Darwin.Jun 29 15:26
MinceRit doesn't add any value to freebsd or mach, thoughJun 29 15:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] probably won't be selective - bad for all or for noneJun 29 15:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Extending #Patent Protection For Antibiotics Creates Perverse Incentives To Render Them Useless - http://bit.ly/KRrqTt & that's not goodJun 29 15:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 112 dents!Jun 29 15:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Apologize for maligning !Trisquel ... which did not, in fact, remove the necessary driver ~ cranky in my 3rd "upgrade" attempt #problemsJun 29 16:00
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ThistleWebAnything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.Jun 29 16:14
abeNd-orgnope, i thought the iphone was lame when it first came out & i am 35 nowJun 29 16:15
ThistleWebshoulda said, that's a Douglas Adams quoteJun 29 16:15
abeNd-organd ive met plenty of technophobes well under 35, and plenty of 60yr olds who embrace technology *shrug*Jun 29 16:16
MinceRthe hypePhone was "invented"?Jun 29 16:16
abeNd-organy new product, heck, any new version/subversion of a product gets that same treatmentJun 29 16:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] leaving for a day in Rio (Duque de Caxias) momentarily http://fsldc.org/Jun 29 16:17
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abeNd-orgjust look at how people freak out between major versions of kde/gnomeJun 29 16:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well, @inscius ... dream of effective super heroes :)Jun 29 16:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Bumping to the Fresh Prince of Belair theme song.Jun 29 16:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I went to my local library and complained there was no Linux client for online books. The kid at the counter said use wine. #wehavetheyouthJun 29 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bugcast plays longer.Jun 29 16:55
formic_abeNd-org: msb_ has a conspiracy theory that explains his usage of kde3Jun 29 16:56
formic_abeNd-org: he thinks microsoft influenced kde4 causing his 20+ virtual desktop setup to become less usefulJun 29 16:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Muy recomendable: http://circodeloshorrores.comJun 29 17:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK's 3-Strikes Plan Continues To Grind Through The System; Still Not In Force, Still Awful - http://bit.ly/NdtK26 still a disgrace #deactJun 29 17:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New European declaration rejects barriers on e-books across territorial borders, platforms, or devices. https://eff.org/r.3aeqJun 29 17:24
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1757883Jun 29 17:32
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: The Linux desktop, thanks to Chromebooks, goes retail http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-linux-desktop-thanks-to-chromebooks-goes-retail/11392 #linuxJun 29 17:32
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schestowitz"But,,, Chromebooks run a PROPRIETARY version of Linux..."Jun 29 17:32
schestowitz"anyway nobody purchase this :)"Jun 29 17:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Happy 5th Birthday GPLv3! www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/gnu-gplv3-turns-5 !gnu !fsf #gplv3Jun 29 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf Happy 5th Birthday GPLv3! http://ur1.ca/9l7cr !gnu !fsf #gplv3Jun 29 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Rejects Rep. Issa's Request To Observe #TPP Negotiations - http://bit.ly/MFZvnJ such arroganceJun 29 17:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody USTR Rejects Rep. Issa's Request To Observe #TPP Negotiations - http://bit.ly/MFZvnJ such arroganceJun 29 17:39
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758047Jun 29 17:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you are not a terrorist, worry not about drones (unless you live in the 'wrong' country) because only "we" have them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_on_Pakistan_by_the_United_States_of_AmericaJun 29 17:44
schestowitz""talibanization" o_O"Jun 29 17:45
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schestowitz"Awesome, though not much to do with kernels." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1757798Jun 29 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) Alpha 2 Released! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-June/000965.html #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 29 17:45
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1751631Jun 29 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Thunderbird 13 Officially Lands in #Ubuntu http://news.softpedia.com/news/Thunderbird-13-Officially-Lands-in-Ubuntu-277256.shtml am sticking with 3.1.11, not trusting #Mozilla updates for #Linux anymore.Jun 29 17:45
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schestowitz"How about sending them and email? Need a contact? I'm in #vancouver and so is the #Thunderbird team."Jun 29 17:45
schestowitzvancouver seems like an awesome city to be in :-)Jun 29 17:46
schestowitz"#kde + #kfaenza + #opencv right on the desktop (java binding too ? #same !) Just the #android part I can't agree with :)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758021Jun 29 17:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Preparing lots of code for upload this week... ![photo: ](http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/android-opencv.png)Jun 29 17:47
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schestowitzthat's all right. I want a Vivaldi.Jun 29 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Support Grows for Open Access to Science Research - http://bit.ly/KIyXPq and how #openaccessJun 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Governments, publishers & public growing their support for #openaccess http://bit.ly/MGt8nw #oaJun 29 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] No Windows. No VMWare. KVM and a little help from Red Hat. All traffic encrypted. What's not to like about Googles Com... http://b1t.it/bG2GJun 29 17:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - No Windows. No VMWare. KVM and a little help from Red Hat.… .::. Size~: 130.22 KBJun 29 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] U.S. trade officials reject @DarrellIssa's request to observe #TPP negotiations. We aren't surprised. https://eff.org/r.a8erJun 29 18:00
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schestowitzyummy http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.htmlJun 29 18:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] eGlide Pro X tablet announced by Ematic: ICS tablet for just $219 http://ur1.ca/9l7h9 #linux #tablet #androidJun 29 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bugcast guest talking about Crivins "Why is a bloke in a pub talking about Linux."Jun 29 18:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: eGlide Pro X tablet announced by Ematic: ICS tablet for just $219AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 49.14 KBJun 29 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Linux and Python.Jun 29 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google’s profit on every Nexus 7 #tablet sold: $0 http://ur1.ca/9l7hk #linux #androidJun 29 18:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nexus 7 sales: Profit for Google on each tablet sold is $0 .::. Size~: 58.23 KBJun 29 18:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've a finite capacity for wrestling tech, @tekk ... on deck with netbook and the cats and zero frustration ... tomorrow is another day.Jun 29 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Keep working! You can't be expecting another 9 hours sleep :)Jun 29 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Nexus 7 to be sold at Carphone Warehouse in the UK, 16GB for £200 http://ur1.ca/9l7i5 #android #ukJun 29 18:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Nexus 7 to be sold at Carphone Warehouse in the UK, 16GB for £200 | Android Central .::. Size~: 82.1 KBJun 29 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lenovo LePhone K860 comes with quad-core Samsung Exynos processor, #Android 4.0 ICS http://ur1.ca/9l7i9 tiny monsterJun 29 18:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lenovo LePhone K860 comes with quad-core Samsung Exynos processor, Android 4.0 ICS » Unwired View .::. Size~: 29.56 KBJun 29 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazon prepping two new Kindle Fire tablets with improved build, metal casing http://ur1.ca/9l7ii but pays Microsoft for it. Avoid.Jun 29 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk thanks :)Jun 29 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chrome=search bar with browser around it. Android=a store with platform around it. Google=surveillance with company around it.Jun 29 18:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kindle Fire 2 Specs, Details: 10-inch, 7-inch Amazon tablets coming .::. Size~: 60.16 KBJun 29 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Like most companies post-9/11 legislation ("Patriot"), Google must give info on people upon request. The solution is simple; dodge US DCs.Jun 29 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As a person in the West, you are better off giving personal info to China (rather than US/UK/etc); the Chinese are less likely to get to youJun 29 18:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf identizens.Jun 29 18:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Chrome=search bar with browser around it. Android=a store with platform around it. Google=surveillance with company arou ...Jun 29 18:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95028717Jun 29 18:31
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 29-Jun-12 22:15:56 UTC - Identi.ca: Keep working! You can't be expecting another 9 hours sleep :)Jun 29 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trust CNN. Why? Well, because it's big. http://ur1.ca/9l7klJun 29 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's New In #Android 4.1 - For Developers? http://ur1.ca/9l7kw #linuxJun 29 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spent a long time today explaining surveillance effects in 20 years; how TV views viewers:products, not customers. Advertisers are customersJun 29 18:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's New In Android 4.1 - For Developers? - Muktware .::. Size~: 30.35 KBJun 29 18:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Calligra 2.4.3 Released http://ur1.ca/9l7lg #kde #odfJun 29 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good #writing advice from @larryrusswurm Suspension of Disbelief Important for #Cats and Kids http://ur1.ca/9ktpr !writeJun 29 18:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Calligra 2.4.3 Released - Muktware .::. Size~: 27.88 KBJun 29 18:39
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schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/3785/when-will-google-drive-come-linux-love-letter-googleJun 29 18:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When Will Google Drive Come To Linux? A Love Letter To Google - Muktware .::. Size~: 29.9 KBJun 29 18:40
schestowitz"At the same time I also defend you from the FUD spread by anti-Google or anti-Android lobby."Jun 29 18:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kororaa 17 Delayed http://ur1.ca/9l7lu #fedoraJun 29 18:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SCOracle 6.3 is out. Now you can use RHEL and fund lawsuits against Android/Linux at the same time. Excellent!Jun 29 18:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fsf Tell the EU to kill #ACTA on July 4th -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/kill-acta !fsf !gnu !lpJun 29 18:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kill ACTA — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 27.71 KBJun 29 18:50
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schestowitzjono: have you decided on a name yet?Jun 29 18:51
jonoschestowitz not yet :-)Jun 29 18:52
schestowitzHow about Lin?Jun 29 18:52
jonowe are debating :-)Jun 29 18:52
jonoLin?Jun 29 18:52
schestowitzLin BaconJun 29 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well. @marjoleinkJun 29 18:52
schestowitzGeddit? :-)Jun 29 18:52
jonoI don't get it :-)Jun 29 18:53
schestowitzLinda...Jun 29 18:53
schestowitzLeanJun 29 18:53
schestowitzYou have a special surnameJun 29 18:53
schestowitzYour wife will bring home the Bacon :-)Jun 29 18:54
jonoaha!Jun 29 18:54
jonoI get itJun 29 18:54
jonololJun 29 18:54
schestowitz:-D have a great weekend mateJun 29 18:54
jonoand you mate :-)Jun 29 18:55
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schestowitzI didn't know Jon maddog Hall was gay.. http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-maddog/In-Honor-of-Alan-Turing-A-message-from-the-sponsorJun 29 18:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Windows vs. #Android: Does Desktop Linux Win? http://ur1.ca/9l7nl #linuxJun 29 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Google’s Nexus 7 tablet computer is a buy http://ur1.ca/9l7o1 will upset partners http://ur1.ca/9ky2a http://ur1.ca/9l7o4Jun 29 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Intel Ivy Bridge On #Linux Two-Month Redux http://ur1.ca/9l7oy avoid Intel, is's an abusive companyJun 29 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Delicious openness: #ICS ported to Samsung Wave http://goo.gl/n8Xzi #androidJun 29 19:05
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758047Jun 29 19:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you are not a terrorist, worry not about drones (unless you live in the 'wrong' country) because only "we" have them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_on_Pakistan_by_the_United_States_of_AmericaJun 29 19:10
schestowitz"Jun 29 19:10
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schestowitzThey are in the skies over America now and I believe about to be introduced into Australia.Jun 29 19:10
schestowitzhttps://rt.com/usa/news/florida-drone-space-unmanned-091/Jun 29 19:10
schestowitzOf course, initially they won't be weaponised with anything more than cameras.....Jun 29 19:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Florida vies to be America's drone capital  — RT .::. Size~: 47.29 KBJun 29 19:10
schestowitz"Jun 29 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Twitter open sources its Iago load generator http://ur1.ca/9l7pq #opensourceJun 29 19:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter open sources its Iago load generator - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 49.62 KBJun 29 19:10
schestowitzthere are some drone-type aviation vehicles like quad-blade copters with sub machine gun remotely controlled with a camera. Quite scary to find out of those out the windows, like the scenes from the 198 filmJun 29 19:14
schestowitz"they make the bug bucks on service previsions and content, i would not be surprised if the give the tablet away free at some point" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758604Jun 29 19:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google’s profit on every Nexus 7 #tablet sold: $0 http://ur1.ca/9l7hk #linux #androidJun 29 19:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First they went with the drones. Then... http://ur1.ca/9l7qrJun 29 19:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Prototype Quadrotor with Machine Gun!       - YouTube .::. Size~: 163.72 KBJun 29 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's Coming In #Ubuntu 12.10 http://ur1.ca/9l7qy #linuxJun 29 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US Army drones are powered by #Linux - no wonder the "L" word is scary to many.Jun 29 19:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's Coming In Ubuntu 12.10 » INFORBIRO - Information technology and marketing .::. Size~: 40.73 KBJun 29 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "the "Echelon" spy network was put into place... Boeing...win aircraft orders." http://ur1.ca/7zfxn spying for private profit, #imperialismJun 29 19:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LCA: Jacob Appelbaum on surveillance and censorship [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 55.57 KBJun 29 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "governments often don’t require a court order or prior approval to make these requests and obtain this information." http://ur1.ca/9l7wmJun 29 19:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Importance Of Anonymity On The Web .::. Size~: 41.74 KBJun 29 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "This action is among the largest criminal copyright cases" http://ur1.ca/7kocr wait, "criminal copyright"? Say what?Jun 29 19:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Megaupload file-sharing site shut down .::. Size~: 102.9 KBJun 29 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CNET asked convicted criminal if Manning had leaked material, but #Wired hides actual evidence, if any http://ur1.ca/0y1f1 #badjournalismJun 29 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sibi Totique: The Free Online #Survival Guide http://goo.gl/PjkiG repost of the best online manual; #preppersJun 29 19:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Researcher detained at U.S. border, questioned about Wikileaks | InSecurity Complex - CNET News .::. Size~: 96.27 KBJun 29 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Class Action to Teach Goldman Sachs Integrity http://ur1.ca/9l7zb #GoldmanSachs #crime #fraud #entryismJun 29 19:40
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758661Jun 29 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Intel Ivy Bridge On #Linux Two-Month Redux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_ivybridge_redux&num=1 avoid Intel, is's an abusive companyJun 29 19:50
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schestowitz"I dunno, that article was overall positive over the amount of support."Jun 29 19:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1757513Jun 29 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #gifJun 29 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by rudolpbrisenho@calispora.org: https://calispora.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_6d8ac6fd51977f40851e.gifJun 29 19:50
schestowitz"Aaahhhh! Not a real blonde!"Jun 29 19:50
schestowitzhow to know if she's not upside down?Jun 29 19:51
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schestowitz"honest to goodness! with all the ads on #google these days they should be paying us to use it! l:) lol0lo..."Jun 29 19:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758604Jun 29 19:56
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google’s profit on every Nexus 7 #tablet sold: $0 http://ur1.ca/9l7hk #linux #androidJun 29 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Potential Good News For #NVIDIA Optimus On #Linux http://ur1.ca/9l8a1 linus@linux:~$ finger /usr/bin/nvidia-settingsJun 29 20:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Potential Good News For NVIDIA Optimus On Linux .::. Size~: 17.53 KBJun 29 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU GPLv3 turns 5 http://ur1.ca/9l7cr #gnu #gpl #fsfJun 29 20:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Pretty much sums up my love to #Linux http://imgur.com/GuOoVJun 29 20:09
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schestowitzabout Intel: "You're just figuring that out? I figured that out when they brought out the original #Pentium with the bad FPU and tried to avoid replacing them."Jun 29 20:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Nvidia loses 10 million GPU order due to poor #Linux support http://ur1.ca/9l5ugJun 29 20:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nvidia loses 10 million GPU order due to poor Linux support – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 79 KBJun 29 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Red Hat Decides Which Open Source Companies to Buy http://ur1.ca/9l8dm #redhat #gnu #linuxJun 29 20:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How Red Hat Decides Which Open Source Companies to Buy - Datamation .::. Size~: 59.58 KBJun 29 20:12
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95030891Jun 29 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr@Statut de John Doe (postblue) sur Saturday, 30-Jun-12 02:11:44 CEST - BlueNet: You kiddin ? Have you really tried fglrx ?Jun 29 20:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Why won't the Obama admin reveal how many emails the NSA has collected and reviewed without a warrant? https://eff.org/r.5aetJun 29 20:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why won’t the Obama administration reveal how many Americans’ emails the NSA has collected and reviewed without a warrant? | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 37.61 KBJun 29 20:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @mgeist: MT @JamesMoore_org: Governor General has granted Royal Assent to Bill C-11, the Copyright Modernization Act. !C11Jun 29 20:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Canadian Government has today passed Bill C-11 which makes DRM legally unbreakable ~ a sad day for the !publicdomain !CDNpoliJun 29 20:19
schestowitzGoogle should advertise LinuxJun 29 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Bill !C11 will make it illegal for Canadians to circumvent DRM to access our *own* content !CDNpoli #government #FAILJun 29 20:20
schestowitzhttp://www.retronaut.co/2011/05/celebrity-yearbook/Jun 29 20:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @euHvR: We reached today a final agreement on the EU patent. #eucoJun 29 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @tdelestre Does that mean @firstsightbe is selected?Jun 29 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @zoobab: Rocard “It is unacceptable to create a non-EU legal system complete with a non-EU court t http://ur1.ca ...Jun 29 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @p_vanostaeyen Good to know. We spreken elkaar wel nog als het zo ver is :)Jun 29 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @Graf_Protz: Tim Berners-Lee: "I invented the World Wide Web"... Children: "Anything else?" http://t.co/Sbpc2HhJJun 29 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @tdelestre: #firstsight team 1 #bemyappbe http://t.co/uAjuBJZKJun 29 20:27
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schestowitzhttp://www.retronaut.co/2012/02/trafalgar-square-riot-1913/Jun 29 20:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When known folks were young http://ur1.ca/9l8l6 rather interesting to scroll down through...Jun 29 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Cheers! ♻ @reality 30 hours until I fly to Switzerland. I’m pre-celebrating with a bottle of white wine.Jun 29 20:30
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schestowitz“A suffragette procession in Trafalgar Square led by Sylvia Pankhurst results in a riot in Whitehall. Policemen are seen escorting Miss Pankhurst away.”Jun 29 20:32
schestowitzhttp://www.inspirefirst.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/30.gifJun 29 20:36
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1756587Jun 29 20:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Sibi Totique: Another looks at the Bug Out Bag http://goo.gl/lrtIJ #bob #preppersJun 29 20:47
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schestowitznever tried much else than ATI and Nvidia blobs, some Intel (onbaord)Jun 29 20:49
schestowitz"good vid, goes to show that open source acquisition is really all about employing the people that can understand and develop the code, without that the code is useless"Jun 29 20:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758780Jun 29 20:53
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How Red Hat Decides Which Open Source Companies to Buy  http://www.datamation.com/feature/how-red-hat-decides-which-open-source-companies-to-buy.html #redhat #gnu #linuxJun 29 20:53
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DaemonFCI yanked the power cable out of the wall right before a transformer explodedJun 29 21:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bug Out Vehicles and Shelters: Build and Outfit Your Life-saving Escape : 9781569759790 http://goo.gl/ZSX5D #preppers #booksJun 29 21:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] It is very frustrating to know that your government, supposed to be a representative democracy isn't representing *citizens* at all !C11Jun 29 21:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @psema4 Canadians get a 5 year #DRM sentence !11 !cdnpoliJun 29 21:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @psema4 Abuse of !Copyright Law Used to Censor Enbridge Political Remix Video http://ur1.ca/9l9ah !CDNpoli #oil !c11 #censorship #ppintJun 29 21:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: C-11 ~ !Copyright Fallacy #3 http://ur1.ca/9l9aoJun 29 21:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @psema4 !Copyright: An Easy Excuse For Making Something Disappear | Techdirt http://ur1.ca/9l9b0 !cdnpoli !c11 #oil #censorship #ppintJun 29 21:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Instead of demonstrating "sober second thought" !Canada 's #Senate revealed itself to be majority government's Rubber Stamp on !C11 !CDNpoliJun 29 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @OpenAccessEC: "Partial reporting of results of CT obscures relationships between cause and effect. We s http://p.ost.im/p/e3QJ5rJun 29 22:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: C-11 ~ !Copyright Fallacy #3 http://ur1.ca/9l9ao !C11 !CDNpoliJun 29 22:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: C-11 ~ Copyright Fallacy #3 «  Laurel L. Russwurm .::. Size~: 83.39 KBJun 29 22:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @strosow Fair dealing for research, private study, education,parody or satire does not infringe !copyright.- Let's start using it! !C11Jun 29 22:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Over 130 Representatives Spell Out Their Concerns With TPP In Letter To Ron Kirk http://identi.ca/url/72513427 !eff !fsfJun 29 00:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] US Copyright Office, MPAA Celebrate Handing Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Copyright Monopoly Powers http://identi.ca/url/72513443 #failJun 29 00:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Sander_R_ Technologisch knap. User interface ben ik ook geen fan van. Kan veel simpelerJun 29 00:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ... assuming the patch is substantial enough to be copyrightable.Jun 29 00:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rep. Jackie Speier Puts Forth Bill To Extend #TSA To Mass Transit http://identi.ca/url/72513512 #failJun 29 00:05
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-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] Lovely bit of lived-in Toronto http://t.co/DrDfjz57Jun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 27/6/2012: Google Tablet, CyanogenMod 7.2 & 9 RC1 http://t.co/aFPWybSy #tchrightsJun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[zoobab] UK pushing to have ECJ out of software patents: "Government's position on avoiding ECJ jurisdiction" http://t.co/PhmCkz8nJun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[zoobab] American judge Randall R. Rader lobbying the EU to keep ECJ outside of patent law http://t.co/PhmCkz8nJun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Assange, uncharged, faces extradition because Sweden refuse to send someone to the UK or pick up a phone. Meanwhile... http://t.co/DbcwdNukJun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Women in Red defend Assange in Ecuador | Ecuardor Times http://t.co/O2hVLs1B https://t.co/v178vz4h http://t.co/h3B82ugsJun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] US Copyright Office, MPAA Celebrate Handing Hollywood Stars Their Own Special Copyright Monopoly Powers http://t.co/rGnVed2RJun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[doctorow] Quite a find on Dundas St #toronto http://t.co/g9TKuyf9Jun 29 00:24
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Why Is Nobody Listening to Jimmy Carter's Searing Critique of America? http://t.co/YPxGAbtGJun 29 00:24
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-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @HuffPostCanada: Canada could get caught in internet trap http://t.co/l2k5JNl6Jun 29 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Maya archaeologists unearth new Dec 21st 2012 monument http://identi.ca/url/72513790 !scienceJun 29 00:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] China manufacturing company tries to extort US customer http://identi.ca/url/72513861Jun 29 00:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Looting of China by the Kleptokapitalist Bourgeoisie Roaders http://identi.ca/url/72513925 #failJun 29 00:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Milky Way Struck 100 Million Years Ago, Still Rings Like a Bell http://identi.ca/url/72513934 !scienceJun 29 00:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Anatomy of a Stack Smashing Attack and How GCC Prevents It http://identi.ca/url/72513955 !linux !fsfJun 29 00:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Study: 86% of Top Websites Expose Visitors to Third-party Tracking Cookies http://goo.gl/6MvboJun 29 00:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Texas GOP Educational Platform Opposes Teaching Critical Thinking Skills http://goo.gl/9uXeN #GOP retarding the US, one generation at a timeJun 29 00:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Asus servers have iKVM/IPMI security flaw, can't be exploited unless admin network is public http://identi.ca/url/72514114 !linuxJun 29 00:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New Study Shows Patent Laws Spur Patents; Report's Authors Pretend This Means Innovation http://is.gd/SJMECtJun 29 00:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sweet dreams @hgfernanJun 29 00:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum Right there with you. ♻ @mcnalu I must say, I’m. very pleasantly inebriated.Jun 29 01:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] blogged: #Manifencours ~ Day 136: Nordic Countries have Free Education http://ur1.ca/9l13d #CasserolesJun 29 01:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Letter of Support for Quebec Students from Nordic Students http://ur1.ca/9l16y #Manifencours #Quebec #Student #Strike #OccupyEducationJun 29 01:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] DING DANGN CLANG EDUCATION FOR ALL DING, DING, CLANGN!!! Les casseroles virtuelles/my virtual #casseroles protest against Bill 78, QuebecJun 29 01:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @diablod3 Anatomy of a Stack Smashing Attack and How GCC Prevents It http://ur1.ca/9l10c !linux !fsfJun 29 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @KimDotcom Will the FBI agents who stole my data now get extradited to New Zealand? http://ur1.ca/9l1ai #draconian !copyrightJun 29 01:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @somecanuckchick How is *THAT* !privacy?! USA 2 share info about Canadians w/ other countries under new deal: http://ur1.ca/9l1b4 !CDNpoliJun 29 01:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] RT @x11r5 @therese No missing dialogues this week than last. This is a post from the internet in #canada b/c i accused @fontana "awol" ( ...Jun 29 02:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Facebook's reporting guide, explaining what happens when a user reports content, is a step in the right direction https://eff.org/r.5aekJun 29 02:42
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DaemonFCI called out the local hospital earlier, as a bunch of gangsters that are in the business of shaking people down, and on the rare occasion that they have to give up on a shake down, declaring it was "charity care" to improve their image.Jun 29 02:54
DaemonFCprobably the only thing worse than hospitals in the United States are those mass lawsuit copyright trollsJun 29 02:55
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DaemonFChttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/17/AR2009051702053.htmlJun 29 03:15
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DaemonFC"We know for a fact that on certain measures, people who are poor are often more depressed than people who are not."Jun 29 03:16
DaemonFCmoney can buy anything but povertyJun 29 03:16
DaemonFCthere's two Kroger supermarkets in this townJun 29 03:17
DaemonFCthe one downtown has higher prices in general, but they both run the same salesJun 29 03:17
DaemonFCI only ever go there if I want to hit a good sale and buy a bunch of something at onceJun 29 03:18
DaemonFCit is true that grocery stores near poorer neighborhoods charge more, even the big chainsJun 29 03:18
DaemonFCthey can get it because there's fewer people who have the choice to go anywhere elseJun 29 03:19
abeNd-orgif they think they can wrench it out of people of course they will charge moreJun 29 03:22
abeNd-orgthen you have apple people willingly paying more than non apple people at travel sites just to support their "i am better than you are" habitsJun 29 03:22
DaemonFCI don't blame the site that was doing thatJun 29 03:23
DaemonFCI'd have probably done the same thingJun 29 03:23
abeNd-orgmeh, if i had the time & could afford it, i would grow my own garden, i was a farm boy once, it wasnt all that badJun 29 03:26
DaemonFCwell, I don't see anything unethical about what Orbitz didJun 29 03:31
DaemonFCthey came to the conclusion that people with Macs have too much money, probably were used to paying more for EVERYTHING anyway just because they could, and decided to show them the expensive hotel rooms firstJun 29 03:32
DaemonFCit's a lot different than a check advance place that charges $16 per $100 on a loan to people who are broke and have to pay their rentJun 29 03:32
DaemonFCor a corner market that charges $5 a gallon for milk and $3 a loaf for bread because they can get it because their customers don't have carsJun 29 03:33
DaemonFCthe Kroger store here pretty much always has giant loaves of whole wheat bread on sale for $1Jun 29 03:34
DaemonFCmilk is usually on sale somewhere for between $2.30-$2.60 per gallonJun 29 03:34
DaemonFCpeople with a car don't see a big issue with driving a couple miles to go get milk and bread, but a couple miles is a hell of a walk for the same stuff :)Jun 29 03:34
DaemonFCso you get those little bodagas everywhere that charge an arm, leg, eye, kidney, and testicleJun 29 03:35
DaemonFCa gallon of milk and a loaf of bread can come to $3.30 to $8, dpeending on your ability to get to the stores that charge a reasonable priceJun 29 03:36
DaemonFCthat's really sadJun 29 03:36
DaemonFCseveral years ago I had a really undependable car, and I was just lucky that at that time I lived in a town with a bus lineJun 29 03:37
DaemonFCI got a few of those huge reusable grocery bags and took the bus up to Walmart or Meijer and back homeJun 29 03:37
DaemonFCit was cheaper to buy a bus pass than to go to the little convenience store down the block, but you had to deal with the bus schedules and you could end up spending an hour walking around in the store waiting for the bus to come back when all you needed was some bread and milkJun 29 03:38
DaemonFCthen, not only do those little convenience stores charge you double, most of them don't take coupons and charge you extra fees if you use a debit card, or make you spend at least $20Jun 29 03:42
DaemonFCit's just a nightmare to deal with those placesJun 29 03:42
DaemonFCthat's why I won't live outside of walking distance from a decent grocery store nowJun 29 03:42
DaemonFCyou can take your budget for a whole months' worth of food and spend it in less than a week in those placesJun 29 03:43
DaemonFCI try to live as frugally as I canJun 29 03:44
DaemonFCthis comes after the horror of fighting off a mountain of credit card billsJun 29 03:45
DaemonFCover the last two years that has pretty much sucked out every last penny out of my budget and I only got out from under that a couple months agoJun 29 03:45
*DaemonFC isn't "poor" poor, but he's not exactly rich either :)Jun 29 03:46
DaemonFCnow, I have been "poor" poor and that is hell on EarthJun 29 03:46
DaemonFCyou get the "who can be the biggest dick in the world" debates, also called the Republican primariesJun 29 03:46
DaemonFCand it's just astounding how many people who aren't much better off than I've been that they can stir up by peppering in a few uses of the word "Jesus" here and there or another favorite "individual responsibility"Jun 29 03:47
DaemonFCyou can't really expect everyone to be responsible, some people try to be responsible and just can't because they can't get a raise and there aren't more hours in the day to workJun 29 03:48
DaemonFCand some people who are middle class try to pretend they are rich when they aren't and cause themselves to be poorJun 29 03:48
DaemonFCit's much less of a black and white issue than the Republicans try to portray it asJun 29 03:49
DaemonFCabeNd-org: I suspect that the people that got swept up by that Orbitz "scandal" were middle class people who are trying to act richJun 29 03:51
DaemonFCthey bought a Mac to impress all their friends but they really don't have the extra $30 for that hotel roomJun 29 03:52
DaemonFCwhich means they probably shouldn't have bought a Mac..... :)Jun 29 03:52
DaemonFCa rich person would have probably just paid it and went onJun 29 03:52
DaemonFC"Oh look, this guy is using Internet Explorer on Windows! Hit him with the Motel Six ad!"Jun 29 03:53
DaemonFCROFLZ!Jun 29 03:53
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DaemonFChttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2Jun 29 04:37
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DaemonFCKubuntuJun 29 04:39
DaemonFC    Inclusion of KDE SC 4.9 Beta 2 for testingJun 29 04:39
DaemonFC    Kde-telepathy replaces Kopete for IMJun 29 04:39
DaemonFC    Lightdm replaces KDM as login managerJun 29 04:39
DaemonFC    Calligra Suite replaces LibreOffice - this is experimental at the momentJun 29 04:39
DaemonFC    The image scaning application skanlite and the webcam tool Kamoso have been added to the seedJun 29 04:40
DaemonFC    Language-selector dropped, patch added to kcm locale to install language packsJun 29 04:40
DaemonFC    Kde-config-tablet added for testing Wacom/pen tablet configuration Jun 29 04:40
DaemonFCgood stuffJun 29 04:40
DaemonFCwill probably keep using XFSJun 29 04:41
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DaemonFCBtrFS has too much internal bloat and some really strange limitationsJun 29 04:41
XFaCEDaemonFC: Still usiing XFS for rootJun 29 05:10
DaemonFCI guess for all the bitching, I could have it a lot worse. There's areas of the US where the cost of living is 2-3 times what it is here and people who make "$15 an hour" are dirt poor and have to find a second job "at a thrift store part time"Jun 29 05:16
DaemonFCouchJun 29 05:16
DaemonFCthat woman cited her rent being $850 a month for a one bedroom apartment in DC, 3 years agoJun 29 05:18
DaemonFCthe going rate in the town I live in is less than half thatJun 29 05:18
DaemonFCnowJun 29 05:18
DaemonFCand she didn't even mention whether or not she got utilities in the rent or had to buy them separatelyJun 29 05:19
DaemonFCthe "half that" amount typically includes utilities hereJun 29 05:19
DaemonFCand without electricity, it can be even lessJun 29 05:19
DaemonFCthat's probably the biggest problem with the Federal Poverty GuidelineJun 29 05:20
DaemonFCdepending on where you live, $86,000 for a family of four can be very comfortable, or just barely making your house/rent paymentsJun 29 05:21
DaemonFCa lot of these cities have OUTRAGEOUS tax rates, which drives up the cost of living, so they can give free housing to illegal Mexicans who get paid in cash under the table and also get food stampsJun 29 05:22
DaemonFCFort Wayne has something like that going on right nowJun 29 05:22
DaemonFCthey think that if they take tax money and use it to fix up crack houses and give them a coat of paint and then rent them out real cheap, that it's just going to fix everything that's wrong thereJun 29 05:23
DaemonFCno, it acts as a magnet, so you just get more crack dens and the people that occupy them and pay minimal rent tear them up again right awayJun 29 05:24
DaemonFCand everyone in the city that isn't on welfare gets to cover thatJun 29 05:24
DaemonFCthese people the Washington Post made examples of are not going to draw any sympathy to the people that are really struggling through no fault of their ownJun 29 05:26
DaemonFCciting a guy that buys $9 chicken wings, argues about his grocery bill, has the cashier remove stuff from it, then cusses her and the manager out and demands a full refund.....Jun 29 05:26
DaemonFCreally?Jun 29 05:26
DaemonFCthese are the best examples they could come up with?Jun 29 05:26
DaemonFCthose kinds of people are why welfare is so stigmatic Jun 29 05:27
DaemonFCthey *are* the problem with welfareJun 29 05:27
DaemonFCpeople who pay $10 to pay their electric bill when they could buy a 42 cent stamp and mail it inJun 29 05:28
DaemonFCpeople who get short term loans at 862% APR to buy groceriesJun 29 05:29
DaemonFCpeople who pay $3-5 to cash a checkJun 29 05:29
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DaemonFCsay a person works and gets paid every weekJun 29 05:30
DaemonFCthey cash their checks at Walmart for $3, they pay their electric bill there with the $8 fee Walmart charges them, then they pay their phone bill there too (another $8), you're up to $28 in fees that month just to pay bills and cash checks when you could have done it for about 84 cents if you had two brain cells touching each otherJun 29 05:31
DaemonFCthese people....Jun 29 05:31
DaemonFC(or free if you just paid everything online!)Jun 29 05:32
DaemonFCI pay all my bills onlineJun 29 05:32
DaemonFCI take out short term loans on my credit card all the time because I don't pay interest on them, the card company pays ME to use itJun 29 05:33
DaemonFCso I jsut pay them back the next day minus my cashbackJun 29 05:33
DaemonFCI'm not rich, I just manage my money a lot better than a lot of these peopleJun 29 05:33
DaemonFCthere's no excuse for what they do and I shouldn't have to pay for their subsidized rent because they're spending money like drunken sailors Jun 29 05:34
DaemonFCpoverty strikes a lot of people regardless of how much money they make because of "convenience fees" and consumer capitalismJun 29 05:35
DaemonFCyou "need" everything your neighbor has even when it isn't in the budgetJun 29 05:35
DaemonFCconsumer capitalism is probably the most evil thing ever inventedJun 29 05:36
DaemonFCit drives millions of people into the red every year trying to chase their neighbors taillights Jun 29 05:37
DaemonFCI don't buy the argument that "consumer spending" will ever help the US economy long termJun 29 05:37
DaemonFCif we're just hemorrhaging the money and the jobs out to third world countries, than almost every dollar spent is bad for the US economy in the long termJun 29 05:38
DaemonFCit can't go on forever. The federal government spending HAS to expand to cover up the GDP contractions that are really going on underneath.Jun 29 05:41
DaemonFCbut even that can't happen indefinitelyJun 29 05:41
DaemonFCand now Indiana is scrambling to comply with the Affordable Care Act at the last minute after arrogantly trying to stop it through the unelected judges on the court systemJun 29 05:48
DaemonFCand we risk having what control over the ACA the act would give to Indiana federalized insteadJun 29 05:48
DaemonFCthis is going to be great to watchJun 29 05:48
DaemonFCit might have just cost us billions in block grants that the state could have used however it likedJun 29 05:49
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DaemonFCof course, considering the people that run the state, I guess I'm glad they won't be running the health insurance exchangesJun 29 05:49
DaemonFCMinceR: I'm going to try to get Indiana declared a sister state to HungaryJun 29 05:52
DaemonFCwe seem to have so much in commonJun 29 05:52
DaemonFChigh poverty, alarming unemployment, a debt problem that is being papered overJun 29 05:53
DaemonFCfar right wing fascist politicians that want to micromanage everything you do in your daily life Jun 29 05:53
DaemonFCdo you object to any of that?Jun 29 05:53
DaemonFCI saw a blog by some fundamentalist Christian preacher that was a member of the Indiana General Assembly back in 1976Jun 29 05:55
DaemonFCone of the few who actually argued to keep "sodomy" as a state crime, and who lost his next election after failing to do that (good)Jun 29 05:55
DaemonFCnow he's back and still insisting that we need to re-criminalize is, AND spend millions of dollars defending the law all the way to the Supreme Court, trying to get Lawrence v. Texas overturnedJun 29 05:56
DaemonFC*itJun 29 05:56
DaemonFChis argument is that he is a compassionate conservative because (I shit you not!), he's not saying we should hang all gay people, "just throw them all in prison" at a cost of $37,600 a year, EACHJun 29 05:57
DaemonFCyou'd think they could let it goJun 29 05:57
DaemonFCthey lost this argument 36 years ago and it isn't coming backJun 29 05:58
DaemonFCprisons do create jobs for a bunch of knuckle dragging high school dropouts that aren't qualified to bag my groceriesJun 29 05:59
DaemonFCthey call them police officers and prison guardsJun 29 05:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Your e-reader is following your every page turn http://is.gd/kNlTbXJun 29 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #RIM - because partnering with #Microsoft has worked wonders for #Nokia http://is.gd/kMk5Ma #kissofdeathJun 29 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #IntellectualVentures Loses Its Shine: Will Its Business Model Ever Work? http://is.gd/tNed3jJun 29 08:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @whistlewright A spot of scotch bonnet pepper in a production environ. The knowledge & user base are too looseJun 29 08:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #FSA finds #banks guilty of mis-selling to small businesses http://goo.gl/RTFKgJun 29 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Photographers boycott #StoneRoses gigs in contract row http://goo.gl/xMH6fJun 29 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Jersey's 'secrecy culture' led to my suspension, says former police chief http://is.gd/r6HxWFJun 29 08:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Barclay brothers accused of trying to silence dissent on Sark http://is.gd/u7L4RAJun 29 08:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the #StoneRoses have sold out so far as to demand exclusive rights to all photographs, will they sue fans by the bucketload?Jun 29 08:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Banking keeps getting away with it, just as the unions did http://goo.gl/icpNOJun 29 08:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #RIAA have solidified themselves as warm & fuzzy among music fans when they started sueing the very fans who pay their wages #StoneRosesJun 29 08:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The international criminal court's many flaws can't simply be glossed over http://is.gd/jE29SbJun 29 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] is there anything the banks haven't mis-sold?Jun 29 08:39
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Indiana,_2012Jun 29 08:53
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DaemonFCahh, vandalismJun 29 08:53
DaemonFC;)Jun 29 08:53
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-29/Jun 29 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @seawolf I *can* believe someone somewhere came up with an equal Rock-Paper-Scissors game that has not 3, but 101 gestures. http://ur ...Jun 29 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @seawolf I can't believe Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock is actually balanced; each defeating and defeated by two. http://ur1.ca/9l38kJun 29 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jgbarah School of Open: @creativecommons & @p2pu joining efforts to provide educational resources about open tools http://ur1.ca/9l2yoJun 29 09:17
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DaemonFCMinceR: Becoming a farmer wouldn't help himJun 29 09:19
DaemonFCas soon as some seeds from a neighboring farm get blown into his field, he'll just get sued by MonsantoJun 29 09:19
DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-28/Jun 29 09:21
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DaemonFCand there's how privatized retirement really worksJun 29 09:21
DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-27/Jun 29 09:22
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DaemonFCLOLJun 29 09:22
DaemonFChe has some good ones latelyJun 29 09:22
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MinceR:>Jun 29 09:27
MinceRgeekingsJun 29 09:28
DaemonFC"your only hope is if some billionaire decides to hunt you on his private island"Jun 29 09:29
DaemonFChard to tell if he's even joking anymoreJun 29 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] .@alberto_cottica @gquagiotto I promised and I shall deliver. yesterday @asta_fish and Jasmine joined us. #EdgeRyders abound! :)Jun 29 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] #London Police Want To Crowdsource Guilt-Free #Surveillance - http://bit.ly/OENP8N Bentham would be proudJun 29 09:34
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DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-24/Jun 29 09:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Koko Koko Boli Spoko bit.ly/MbzeQE :) !polskaJun 29 09:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UNESCO World OER Congress releases 2012 Paris OER Declaration - http://bit.ly/NJ50Qx moar #OER...Jun 29 09:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Calling Dr. Google - http://bit.ly/MuFtP9 interesting taleJun 29 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] An2An Keyboard - http://bit.ly/LkDk4N clever #androidJun 29 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ACTAfacts? ACTAfiction? Or Just Unsourced Pro-#ACTA Propaganda Purporting To Be Objective? - http://bit.ly/NVkYL5 desperate or what?Jun 29 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] crowdsourcing tech the Met are using against rioters could also be used to identify #lobbyists swarming the halls of power with timestampsJun 29 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Intellectual Ventures Loses Its Shine: Will Its Business Model Ever Work? - http://bit.ly/MuGt5K I think we know the answer to that #trollsJun 29 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] let's see if #lobbyist meetings with #politicians match up with bills being proposed or pushed by those same politiciansJun 29 09:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd also be a good way of matching up the gaps in #FOI request "mistakes" when #politicians "forget" to mention certain meetingsJun 29 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] after all you can't rely on #politicians to be accurate about who they meet & when, even the PM got caught in that lie #Murdoch #CameronJun 29 09:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Just slept for 9 hours for the first time in many years. So extremely unproductive, but refreshing still.Jun 29 09:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Rupert Rawnsley http://ur1.ca/9l3qeJun 29 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ex-NHS chief Gary Walker 'being gagged' - http://bbc.in/ODYb7P disgraceful: enquiry needed here (v @bengoldacre) #transparencyJun 29 10:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ACTAfacts? ACTAfiction? Or Just Unsourced Pro-ACTA Propaganda Purporting To Be Objective? http://is.gd/DIqE5X #getthefactsJun 29 10:10
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MinceRi thought they gave up on AIR ages agoJun 29 10:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 5 years of #GPLv3 - http://bit.ly/LV4sZ3 interesting point about licence compatibilityJun 29 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] A concentrated and silent atmosphere in the Red Hat office in Munich. I guess no "Schland!" shouting today? ;-)Jun 29 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @glynmoody Ex-NHS chief Gary Walker 'being gagged' - http://bbc.in/ODYb7P disgraceful: enquiry needed here (v @bengoldacre) #transparencyJun 29 10:19
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DaemonFCMinceR: Ron White said "you can't fix stupid"Jun 29 10:20
DaemonFC"stupid is forever"Jun 29 10:20
DaemonFChe forgot to mention that stupid is all around usJun 29 10:20
DaemonFCsometimes we don't even notice until it's too lateJun 29 10:20
DaemonFCstupid, is like the PredatorJun 29 10:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the difference between the 1% & the rest of us? they have a never ending supply of human chaff to blame when caught screwing people overJun 29 10:20
MinceR:>Jun 29 10:22
DaemonFCI've given up fighting itJun 29 10:22
DaemonFCI avoid it wherever I canJun 29 10:22
DaemonFCbut, George Carlin said something that ties into this tooJun 29 10:22
DaemonFC"this is it folks! this is the best it gets! don't look for more, be happy with what you have!"Jun 29 10:22
DaemonFCor something to that effectJun 29 10:23
DaemonFCthe Supreme Court says Congress can tax people for anything, and tax them selectively, even as a punishmentJun 29 10:24
DaemonFCso why not have a Stupid Tax?Jun 29 10:24
DaemonFCwe'd pay down the national debt in no timeJun 29 10:24
DaemonFCpeople could no longer afford to be stupidJun 29 10:24
DaemonFCthey'd be throwing themselves out of windows to get away from the taxJun 29 10:24
DaemonFCMinceR: Did you know that people were talking about moving to Canada to get away from socialized medicine?Jun 29 10:25
DaemonFCno, you move to Canada to get away from military draftsJun 29 10:25
MinceR:>Jun 29 10:26
DaemonFClike when the Vietnam draft had well over 40,000 Americans flee to CanadaJun 29 10:26
DaemonFCand most of them didn't even bother coming back, after they were pardonedJun 29 10:26
DaemonFCwhy would they?Jun 29 10:27
DaemonFCwhat would they be coming home to?Jun 29 10:27
DaemonFCno healthcare, an unfunded pension system?Jun 29 10:27
DaemonFCfundamentalist Christian bullshit running the entire country?Jun 29 10:28
DaemonFCI don't blame them, but I would ask that they try to influence Canada's immigration law so more of us can escapeJun 29 10:29
DaemonFCleave this country to choke to death on all the stupidityJun 29 10:29
iophkhttp://dilbert.com/2012-06-29/Jun 29 10:30
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DaemonFCI think we might be able to come to an understanding with the TEA fascistsJun 29 10:30
DaemonFCthreaten to bomb Canada unless they take all of the American LeftJun 29 10:30
DaemonFCwe'll be gone and they can turn the Unites States into whatever kind of hellish nightmare they want!Jun 29 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Thistleweb @Expatpaul @Theru @Morph @Schestowitz @GlynmoodyJun 29 10:34
DaemonFChttps://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/states-face-a-challenge-to-hit-laws-deadlines.html?_r=1&pagewanted=allJun 29 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I can see why people post pictures of their perky pets. It is hard to resist the urge, especially for the puppy page :)Jun 29 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Nice website to show people what kind of data they share and to make them a bit more sensible for #privacy issues http://ur1.ca/9kjafJun 29 10:37
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iophkhttp://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/29/adobe_to_end_new_android_flash_installs_on_august_15.htmlJun 29 10:37
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iophkGood riddance to Flash.Jun 29 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] !fsfe !fellowship #interview: #PageKite can be combined with other !FreeSoftware to realise #decentralisation http://ur1.ca/9kc2kJun 29 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @ Thistleweb. I wonder if the LIBOR manipulators will even be prosecuted. #WhitecollarcrimeisnotcrimeJun 29 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Most Blatant Pro-#ACTA Campaign So Far Is A Copyright Monopoly Violation - http://bit.ly/LV8TmR laws only apply to you & me #hypocrisyJun 29 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @rtroncy: Powered by the #datalift platform ! RT @sclopit: geospatial #linkeddata from France http:/ http://ur1. ...Jun 29 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] Every time I read a !fellowship interview I am so proud that I work for !fsfe with all those amazing people http://ur1.ca/9kc2k !gnu !fsJun 29 11:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Rick Falkvinge http://ur1.ca/9l42qJun 29 11:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: #ff @lindaliukas @babgi @jangulliksen @GerganaPassy @digivaardig @alesspetic @MTDigitalC http://p.ost.im/p/eTJx6NJun 29 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @teirdes new caps are much lower than what many currently offer - and will go down yet f http://p.ost.im/p/e3wEmWJun 29 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: complete list of #digital champions here https://t.co/UUaAmhzw http://t.co/P6GoRtsw http://p.ost.im/p/e3V5kcJun 29 11:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@kirschner: Every time I read a #fellowship interview I am so proud that I work for #fsfe with all those amazing people http://ur1.ca/9kc2kJun 29 11:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "#Coffee! You can sleep when you're dead!" - !q, also @asta_fish's philosophy, apparentlyJun 29 11:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hell frozen & I missed it? » Adobe's !OpenSource Code Editor 4 Web Devs, Brackets http://goo.gl/6Vlaa « Seems limited thoughJun 29 11:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Rick Falkvinge http://ur1.ca/9l47wJun 29 11:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @reticuleena Apple kümmert sich um unsere Moral und bereinigt Kraftausdrücke in Liedern. http://ur1.ca/9l3yq #zensur #warumkaufenimme ...Jun 29 12:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @davidmarsden: Saw a DHL van outside on my way home. Now Google is serving up ads for DHL. WTF?!Jun 29 12:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I haven't read any momentous news so far today. Friday is usually slow thoughJun 29 12:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] It runs on KVM. It offers Ubuntu and CentOS images. I start to like Google Compute engine.Jun 29 12:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] RT @boltronics Sign the petition calling for transparency in the negotiation of the TPP agreement. http://stopthetrap.net/Jun 29 12:24
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DaemonFCa colony of yellow jackets set up a nest in the trunk of my carJun 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Please help us Free Bassel, open source developer and #CC volunteer: https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/33119Jun 29 12:40
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DaemonFCI had to get back in and drive back to the store to get a can of raidJun 29 12:41
DaemonFC:PJun 29 12:41
formic_DaemonFC: Winamp supports alacJun 29 12:46
formic_They should have called it andampJun 29 12:47
DaemonFCblehJun 29 12:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] Time to leave Academic hostel and go to #KDE !Akademy prerigistration event spotJun 29 12:50
DaemonFCthis day is weird alreadyJun 29 12:51
DaemonFCfeels weirdJun 29 12:51
DaemonFCjust totally wrong somehowJun 29 12:51
DaemonFClike I forgot somethingJun 29 12:51
formic_So Winamp became my solution to killing my iPodJun 29 12:51
DaemonFCoh, because it plays your Crapple Lossless on Android?Jun 29 12:52
DaemonFCsee, I knew you'd like it :)Jun 29 12:52
formic_I wish there was Winamp for LinuxJun 29 12:52
DaemonFCthere was one onceJun 29 12:52
DaemonFCjust a beta release of Winamp 3Jun 29 12:52
formic_Yeah I didn't want to convert all my musicJun 29 12:52
formic_Everything I have on fedora plays alacJun 29 12:53
DaemonFCoh, I checked my mail, and my refund from AT&T was.....much larger than I expected it to beJun 29 12:53
DaemonFCPARTY!Jun 29 12:53
DaemonFCheheJun 29 12:53
formic_:)Jun 29 12:53
formic_Winamp is also the only decent player for flac tooJun 29 12:54
*DaemonFC needs to run by the bank to deposit this sucker :)Jun 29 12:54
DaemonFCso rare that I get a checkJun 29 12:54
formic_If I had Winamp for Linux I could sync it with androidJun 29 12:54
DaemonFCas in, an actual paper checkJun 29 12:55
DaemonFCI didn't know they still made themJun 29 12:55
DaemonFChow retro.....Jun 29 12:55
formic_None of this 90s drag and drop mass storage stuffJun 29 12:55
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 12:55
DaemonFCdrag and drop / MSC is crudeJun 29 12:55
DaemonFCbut....it worksJun 29 12:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Please help us #FreeBassel, open source developer and #CC volunteer: https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/33119Jun 29 12:55
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DaemonFCI'd rather have a simple and workable solution to one that is better in theory but never works out betterJun 29 12:56
formic_My music player on Linux should be able to send my already made playlists overJun 29 12:56
formic_Banshee might but I don't really want mono bloatJun 29 12:56
DaemonFCRhythmbox has MTP supportJun 29 12:57
DaemonFCAmarok mightJun 29 12:57
DaemonFCI don't know, I don't use MTPJun 29 12:57
formic_I'll try rhythymboxJun 29 12:57
formic_I don't really like Amarok anymoreJun 29 12:57
formic_ClunkyJun 29 12:58
DaemonFCbbiab, out to do more running aroundJun 29 12:59
*DaemonFC will get through this eventuallyJun 29 12:59
DaemonFCevery time I get back in, there's another reason I have to go back out againJun 29 12:59
DaemonFCI saw that yellow jacket hive and decided to not wait for the nest to get largerJun 29 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Thanks for the tip-off! Just tried #SuperTaxKart again myself and was really impressed.Jun 29 13:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Anonymous Courtroom Notes Raise Serious Questions About SurfTheChannel Conviction - http://bit.ly/OF6cth any lawyers got views on claims?Jun 29 13:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Please help us Free Bassel, #opensource developer and CC volunteer - http://bit.ly/MFAv1l worrying stuff #syriaJun 29 13:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Making calls is fifth most frequent UK smartphone activity, according to O2 - http://tnw.co/MEnfbQ computers with phones, not vice versaJun 29 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wildeboer's IaaS and PaaS law #1: If it ain't running on KVM it ain't worth it. :-)Jun 29 13:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wildeboer's IaaS and PaaS law #2: Open {standards, source} wins.Jun 29 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Issa, Canada, and Mexico All Denied #TPP Observer Status; Congress Continues to Seek Greater Transparency - http://bit.ly/MEqDmYan insultJun 29 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Weird plan for next weekend: Try to convert my HP N40L Microserver to a working OpenShift-in-a-box config. The OpenShiftBox :-)Jun 29 13:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #TPP viewed with skepticism - http://bit.ly/LUwl1P "#China sees it as US conspiracy to interfere with its international rise"; it isJun 29 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Linksvayer: 5 years of GPLv3 http://ur1.ca/9l4x9Jun 29 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A day after the defeat my CSFC goalkeeper uniform still on http://ur1.ca/9l4xa feeling lazy, eager to resume writing articles this afternoonJun 29 14:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @fcouchet Some hours left to call MEP about software patents http://ur1.ca/9kw7c and ACTA http://ur1.ca/9l4w4Jun 29 14:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Problem with @orangekenya traffic was to Nakuru, Kisumu, W. Kenya this morning. Only fair to compensate those on daily bundles.Jun 29 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @reticuleena: Ich wünsche mir eine Menstruationskalender-App fürs #Android. Bitte als Freie Software. #FreeYourAndroidJun 29 14:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] RT @grote Just flashed #CyanogenMod 9 on my phone. Looks great! :) #Xperia phones still have a kernel bug: http://bit.ly/N1Bd6A #FreeYou ...Jun 29 14:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So bought my bundle at 1000 hours but didn't have net till 1400. @orangekenya I want my 4 hours back.Jun 29 14:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With UEFI, #Microsoft Assaults the General Public License (GPL) and Computing Freedom in General http://ur1.ca/9l517 #gpl #gnu #fsf #grubJun 29 14:30
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DaemonFCGRUB really is overly complicated, verbose, difficult to deal with, error prone, and has about a billion ways it can misbehave and fuck your day upJun 29 14:39
DaemonFCsomething simpler would be niceJun 29 14:39
iophkGrub 2 is worse.Jun 29 14:39
DaemonFCGRUB 2 is OK until it isn'tJun 29 14:40
DaemonFCas long as you never have it act up and eat your filesystem or refuse to boot, it's out of sight and out of mindJun 29 14:40
iophkIt's as you wrote, overly complexJun 29 14:41
DaemonFCit claims to support several file systems, but it only supports Ext2/3/4 somewhat reliably at the end of the dayJun 29 14:41
DaemonFCright now GRUB 2 is back to causing problems with XFSJun 29 14:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SUSE Still Alive, But Far From the Top http://ur1.ca/9l53d #suse #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #opensuse #microsoftJun 29 14:42
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DaemonFCright now it seems to cause a non-fatal filesystem corruption on every boot, which XFS repairs right away as soon as the kernel brings up its own XFS driverJun 29 14:42
*DaemonFC head desksJun 29 14:42
XFaCERoderick: Good on you for raising the UEFI-Internet issueJun 29 14:42
XFaCEoopsJun 29 14:42
XFaCEroy__: Jun 29 14:43
DaemonFCso I'm actually using Ext4 right nowJun 29 14:43
DaemonFCpart of me wants to just get rid of GRUB, install LILO, and be done with itJun 29 14:43
XFaCEThis is the basic plot that has been proposed since the announcement of palladiumJun 29 14:43
Roderickgot all excited for no reasonJun 29 14:43
DaemonFCbut it's one of those things I really don't want to think aboutJun 29 14:43
DaemonFCthe FSF could have caused things to work out much better for distributions if they had licensed it under the GPL 2+Jun 29 14:44
DaemonFCbut they're a bunch of ideologues and playing well with others comes second to getting their own agenda rammed through Jun 29 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Plume's actually kinda good. Fell out of love with TweetDeck.Jun 29 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Which reminds me, had a coupla questions RE: Orange Money @orangekenyaJun 29 14:45
DaemonFCit's not like whether GRUB is GPL 2 or GPL 3 makes much difference at the end of the day except that it makes it impossible to use with Secure Boot, so distributions will just get rid of it and use something elseJun 29 14:46
DaemonFCMISSION ACCOMPLISHEDJun 29 14:46
XFaCEDaemonFC: you realize the slippery slope hereJun 29 14:47
DaemonFCif they want distributions to get rid of GRUB and just use something under the MIT X11 license instead, they just succeededJun 29 14:47
DaemonFCit GRUB had been under the GPL 2, Ubuntu would have kept using GRUBJun 29 14:47
XFaCEDaemonFC: And you want this to happen? REally?Jun 29 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Can another person other than the a/c holder deposit money directly into my Orange Money a/c at an Equity Bank branch/agent? @orangekenyaJun 29 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Also, kindly point me to an Orange Money user guide. @orangekenyaJun 29 14:47
DaemonFCI'm saying that I understand what they did given the position the FSF put them inJun 29 14:47
DaemonFCjust because something is under the GPL 3 doesn't mean I won't use it. I have nothing against the GPL 3. Why would I? It puts no restrictions on me because I am a user/recipient.Jun 29 14:49
DaemonFCbut it's probably not the best way to win friends and influence people in some casesJun 29 14:49
XFaCEDaemonFC: Yeah, this incident highlights exactly why the gpl3 worksJun 29 14:49
XFaCEbecause Microsoft had to essentially blackmail others to not use itJun 29 14:49
XFaCEThe last tactic left to Microsoft was the dirty, cheating actionJun 29 14:50
DaemonFChell, there's nothing inherently wrong with Secure Boot as long as the user is free to add/remove keys or turn it on or off at willJun 29 14:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: As Roy pointed out, it will not stop thereJun 29 14:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: Remember when Trusted Computing was being talkinga bout?Jun 29 14:50
DaemonFCI would have to say that I am strongly opposed to the way it's being implemented on ARM hardwareJun 29 14:50
XFaCEAbout needing it in order to access the internet?Jun 29 14:50
DaemonFCwell, EFI itself is pretty nasty with or without Secure BootJun 29 14:51
DaemonFCSecure Boot itself is benign, Microsoft uses the Windows labeling program to make it into something malicious in some casesJun 29 14:51
DaemonFCit CAN just be a security mechanism, but it can also be a form of DRM, stopping the user from using their hardware as they see fitJun 29 14:52
XFaCEDaemonFC: ExactlyJun 29 14:52
XFaCEI can easily see Microsoft extended it to the Internet usageJun 29 14:52
DaemonFCit's like saying you can cut down a tree with a chainsaw or you can attack a person with a chainsawJun 29 14:52
DaemonFCthe chainsaw itself is neither good nor evil, it is a toolJun 29 14:52
DaemonFCthe person using it might be malicious and attack someone with itJun 29 14:53
XFaCEThink of all the gov't initiatives there have been requiring "ID" internet accessJun 29 14:53
DaemonFCthey've already backdoored pretty much all the routers and modems out thereJun 29 14:53
XFaCEDaemonFC: Obviously, I'm only talking about Microsoft's implementation of the uEFIJun 29 14:53
XFaCEDaemonFC: Which is why one installs third-party firmwareJun 29 14:54
DaemonFCit would not be hard for them to subvert your home network and listen in on it if you're also connected to the internet Jun 29 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #MOSAID Apparently Extorts Linux, Red Hat Embraces Secrecy Again http://ur1.ca/9l55k #redhat #swpats #us #microsoft #linux #gnuJun 29 14:54
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DaemonFCthey don't really need to bust down your door and seize your PC to get all your filesJun 29 14:55
XFaCEsureJun 29 14:55
DaemonFCall they need is for you to be running networking equipment with nonfree firmware, and preferably a home network between devices running nonfree softwareJun 29 14:55
XFaCEIf you are running non-standard firmware and OSes, the risk is lowered to an extentJun 29 14:55
DaemonFCI don't set up a home network Jun 29 14:56
DaemonFCif I want to move files from one PC to another or to a device, I use a flash driveJun 29 14:56
DaemonFCif I want to print something, I unplug the printer from one system and hook it up to the otherJun 29 14:57
DaemonFCif you use home networking with a networking device they have compromised, they can see all the files in all your locally shared folders, and all the documents you send off to the printer over the networkJun 29 14:57
DaemonFCand if you use Windows, they have access to everything Windows doesJun 29 14:57
formic_Fedora will be using UEFI security to help lock down their packagesJun 29 14:57
DaemonFCregardless of whether you think you've shared it or notJun 29 14:58
formic_That's a good thingJun 29 14:58
formic_I bet you a number of distros will just steal fedora's signed bootloader tooJun 29 14:58
DaemonFCXFaCE: You're right that when you use Windows or OS X your home network is easier to compromise, but if your modem/router are untrustworthy and you're using it to share ANYTHING, you've already lostJun 29 14:59
XFaCEformic_: You mean "copy" the bootloaderJun 29 14:59
formic_XFaCE: sureJun 29 14:59
formic_actually they probably cantJun 29 14:59
formic_i'd assume there is a password required to signJun 29 14:59
formic_however the package system will get a security upgradeJun 29 15:00
formic_im boycotting ubuntu and ubuntu oem systemsJun 29 15:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] «@TheRealKubz «@KTNKenya High Court revokes President Kibaki's appointment of 47 County Commissioners.»»Jun 29 15:00
DaemonFCI'd be interested in one, maybeJun 29 15:01
formic_they will include canonicals key but not microsofts, so no microsoft signed hardware will work (which is like everything)Jun 29 15:01
DaemonFCat some future point in time when this system fails or just becomes too old to useJun 29 15:01
formic_or just turn off secure bootJun 29 15:01
formic_while your modifying your boot optionsJun 29 15:02
DaemonFCyeahJun 29 15:02
DaemonFCif I ran into problems with it, I'd just shut it offJun 29 15:02
formic_kill two girls with one cup of fecesJun 29 15:02
formic_yeah exactlyJun 29 15:02
formic_its a pain in the ass, its bad that microsoft is now taxing everything, but its not the end of the worldJun 29 15:03
formic_if you look at the numbers, microsoft is making the most money on android right now :(Jun 29 15:03
formic_damn ms taxJun 29 15:03
DaemonFCI love internet banking :)Jun 29 15:03
DaemonFCespecially when the bank tells you that you need Java and Windows XP but I manage somehow anyway with The GimpJun 29 15:04
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 15:04
formic_im glad its not oracle tax + ms taxJun 29 15:04
XFaCEI'm glad my computer doesn't have a TPM or any sort of UEFIJun 29 15:04
XFaCE*usable UEFIJun 29 15:04
formic_xfaceJun 29 15:05
DaemonFCmy bank locks me out unless my browser user agent is on their whitelistJun 29 15:05
formic_you're confusing UEFI with secure bootJun 29 15:05
XFaCEformic_: NoJun 29 15:05
DaemonFCit has to say Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, or Safari somewhere in the user agentJun 29 15:05
formic_secure boot is just a FEATURE sitting on top of UEFIJun 29 15:05
DaemonFCso it will let me log in with Rekonq, but not with OperaJun 29 15:05
XFaCEformic_: What I mean is that I don't have the basis for Secure Boot periodJun 29 15:05
XFaCEformic_: Jun 29 15:05
formic_I have a 4 year old UEFI motherboard with no secure bootJun 29 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fontana/@fontana] Five years of !GPLv3 by @mlinksva http://ur1.ca/9l3dcJun 29 15:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] That was fast.Jun 29 15:05
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XFaCEformic_: Secure Boot is software, not hardware no?Jun 29 15:06
DaemonFCI sent a letter to the bank about that and a message to Opera asking for them to include my bank on their quirks listJun 29 15:06
formic_secure boot is a featureJun 29 15:06
XFaCEyesJun 29 15:06
DaemonFCtwo years later, the bank hasn't fixed their siteJun 29 15:06
formic_UEFI != badJun 29 15:06
formic_secure boot = badJun 29 15:06
DaemonFCOpera has not added a work aroundJun 29 15:06
XFaCEformic_: YesJun 29 15:06
DaemonFCbut you can go into site preferences and have it report itself as FirefoxJun 29 15:06
formic_UEFI can give you a graphical user interface with networking and mouse support for a BIOS (if mobo companies wanted)Jun 29 15:06
DaemonFCand that worksJun 29 15:07
XFaCEformic_: UEFI, by itself, isolated, is not badJun 29 15:07
XFaCEYou are correctJun 29 15:07
formic_its the damned secure boot featureJun 29 15:07
DaemonFCXFaCE: To give you an idea of how shit tends to linger....Jun 29 15:07
formic_which can be good if used properlyJun 29 15:07
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 15:07
formic_secure boot is a double edged swordJun 29 15:08
formic_microsoft is cutting us with it, but we can cut backJun 29 15:08
DaemonFCin Linux 3.5's Ext3 and Ext4 drivers, they just now removed a mount option that would update your Ext3 journal to the second version of the Ext3 journalJun 29 15:08
DaemonFCwhich has been around since 2002Jun 29 15:08
DaemonFCso unless you have a file system that was created by, like, Linux 2.2 that you haven't mounted in 10 years, you're OKJun 29 15:09
DaemonFCbut if you do have such a file system, better mount it with journal=update on Linux 3.4 first, before moving to Linux 3.5 :)Jun 29 15:09
formic_DaemonFC: couldn't you just mount it as ext2 and migrate your data to a new ext3 or 4 filesystem ?Jun 29 15:09
MinceRi'm not so sure about uefi itselfJun 29 15:09
MinceRit's overcomplicatedJun 29 15:10
DaemonFCmounting it as Ext2 ignores the journal completelyJun 29 15:10
MinceRunnecessarily soJun 29 15:10
formic_DaemonFC: exactlyJun 29 15:10
XFaCEMinceR: I've heard this as wellJun 29 15:10
formic_bios is pretty much unnecessaryJun 29 15:10
formic_just need a way to overclock and change boot orderJun 29 15:11
DaemonFCso if your file system was Ext3 (but not Ext4), you could mount it as Ext2, then remount it as Ext3 or 4, as long as you don't mind clobbering the journal and starting over......Jun 29 15:11
DaemonFCI guess that would work, unless it doesn't :)Jun 29 15:11
formic_too bad amd didnt really love free software, it would be nice to see the amd overdrive utility for linuxJun 29 15:11
DaemonFCExt4 is not mountable as Ext2/3Jun 29 15:12
DaemonFCif you created it with the defaultsJun 29 15:12
formic_DaemonFC: as long as nothing is wrong with the partition, the journal being rebuilt is a non issueJun 29 15:12
DaemonFCif you specified at filesystem creation for it to not use extents, then it is possible to mount it as Ext2/3Jun 29 15:12
formic_DaemonFC: what if you're using reiserfsJun 29 15:12
formic_does that mean your data is burried in a lake somewhere?Jun 29 15:13
DaemonFCsince Extents are really the main point of Ext4, it would be pointless to tell mkfs to create Ext4 without extentsJun 29 15:13
DaemonFCreiserfs is a legacyJun 29 15:13
DaemonFCit's a really bad idea to be using it at this pointJun 29 15:14
DaemonFCit's really poorly maintained and it's not going to ever improveJun 29 15:14
DaemonFCI think it's mainly still there so people using old copies of SUSE can still mount their partitions :)Jun 29 15:14
DaemonFCI never liked ReiserFS in the first placeJun 29 15:15
DaemonFCthe ideas behind it are fucking stupidJun 29 15:15
DaemonFCit loses data, easilyJun 29 15:15
DaemonFCit can't be fixedJun 29 15:15
MinceRi don't see why you like ext4, thenJun 29 15:15
MinceRseveral new features were all about sacrificing data for a bit of performanceJun 29 15:15
DaemonFCit's better than Ext3Jun 29 15:15
DaemonFCthat's not saying muchJun 29 15:16
DaemonFCExt3 always had TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, NO GOOD, REALLY BAD performance problemsJun 29 15:16
MinceRthe only reason i ever used ext4 was the SSD TRIM supportJun 29 15:16
DaemonFCif your file system is making your hard disk noticeably slower than it has to be, you should reconsider your file system Jun 29 15:17
MinceRif your filesystem is regularly losing data and you're ok with that, you don't need a filesystemJun 29 15:17
MinceRyou don't even need a storage device thenJun 29 15:18
XFaCEMinceR: what filesystem do you go by?Jun 29 15:18
MinceRext3Jun 29 15:18
DaemonFCdistributions are going to drop the ext2 and ext3 drivers eventually anywayJun 29 15:18
DaemonFCFedora already hasJun 29 15:18
MinceRgreatJun 29 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Feira Internacional do Artesanato - Apresentação http://goo.gl/LA7lo "o Canivete Português" http://ur1.ca/9l5acJun 29 15:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] On my way. 600 km in the car. Let's hope it goes quick, without too much traffic.Jun 29 15:19
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DaemonFCthe ext4 driver will mount ext2/3 without changing the on disk format (unless you tell it to!)Jun 29 15:19
MinceRmaybe i'll just go back to debianJun 29 15:19
DaemonFCand so Ext3 picks up *some* of the features of Ext4Jun 29 15:19
DaemonFCbut it still calls itself Ext3 to make YOU happy :)Jun 29 15:19
XFaCEMinceR: Arch man, Arch yoJun 29 15:20
MinceRno wayJun 29 15:20
XFaCEWay yes!Jun 29 15:20
DaemonFCreally at that point if you're worried about extents and allocate on flush trashing your data, you should just make an ext4 partition and turn those offJun 29 15:20
MinceRquestion is, can i trust the ext4 code to manage them as reliablyJun 29 15:21
MinceR(and why would i want to, if i don't need the new "feature"s)Jun 29 15:21
DaemonFCthe new block allocator alone is nice to haveJun 29 15:21
DaemonFCyou would get that if you mounted ext2/3 with the ext4 driverJun 29 15:21
XFaCEMinceR: You could always use XFSJun 29 15:21
DaemonFCthe way the ext2/3 block allocator works is INSANEJun 29 15:22
MinceRi don't really see a reason to move from ext3 to XFSJun 29 15:22
DaemonFCactually, it's beyond insaneJun 29 15:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK> Registos oficiais online vão ficar mais caros http://goo.gl/dOIcG + 1 aldrabice, custos diminuem serviços aumentam! parecem a banca!Jun 29 15:22
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XFaCEMinceR: Or JFS, if you want reliabilityJun 29 15:22
DaemonFCcome to think of it, I'm pretty sure whoever thought of it is in an insane asylum by nowJun 29 15:22
MinceRi don't know JFSJun 29 15:23
XFaCEMinceR: The IBM FS that was ported; originally used with OS/2Jun 29 15:23
DaemonFC(I can't prove that, but people who call the block allocator 100,000 times for a 100 MB file are probably chronic masturbaters who talk to buildings)Jun 29 15:23
MinceRXFaCE: why would i want to use that?Jun 29 15:23
XFaCEMinceR: You apparently want reliability and data integrity above other thingsJun 29 15:24
DaemonFCXFS has really changed a lot recentlyJun 29 15:24
DaemonFCI'd be shocked if it actually lost any data in Linux 3.4Jun 29 15:24
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 15:24
DaemonFCatomic transactions! MUAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!Jun 29 15:24
DaemonFC*including journal updatesJun 29 15:25
MinceRyes, i've heard they wanted to fix journaling for it, probably did it tooJun 29 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Europe Fines #Microsoft for Abuses, But Continues Funnelling Public Money to Microsoft; the Greek Set Fire to Microsoft http://ur1.ca/9l5b6Jun 29 15:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android Distribution and Freedom Challenged by #Apple and Microsoft’s Co-founder http://ur1.ca/9l5bn #swpats #itcJun 29 15:25
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DaemonFCthe on disk format of XFS hasn't changed at all in about 8 years iircJun 29 15:26
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DaemonFCand that change is forward compatible and IRIX was hotfixed to understand itJun 29 15:26
DaemonFCthe driver has changed a lot thoughJun 29 15:26
DaemonFCit has lost a lot of weight :)Jun 29 15:26
DaemonFCat this point it doesn't really duplicate anything that the Linux VFS can doJun 29 15:27
DaemonFCI don't think we're going to see too many more months where it drops by several thousand lines of codeJun 29 15:28
DaemonFCI'm pretty sure that any extra weight it is carrying is for a feature that is unique to XFS at this pointJun 29 15:29
DaemonFCDirecTV and Dish Network are still churning out DVRs that use the realtime subvolume even though that has been officially deprecated for yearsJun 29 15:29
DaemonFCI don't think it will ever be removed as long as people are still using itJun 29 15:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Ext4 can go wrong very fast if you play around with obscure mount or mkfs optionsJun 29 15:31
DaemonFCa lot of those really have no business existingJun 29 15:32
DaemonFCbigalloc is probably the most horrifying thing I've ever seenJun 29 15:32
DaemonFCB-)Jun 29 15:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Anyone else had trouble getting http://ur1.ca/57bug to authenticate MapZen for Android via oAuth lately? !osmJun 29 15:32
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DaemonFCI guess 1 MB blocks are alright if you don't mind an unpacked kernel tarball taking 160 GB of space to store a few hundred MB of filesJun 29 15:33
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 15:33
DaemonFCthat was the example they gave, but you're going to run out of space REAL fast with thatJun 29 15:33
formic_for reliability, I use ZFSJun 29 15:33
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyOTUJun 29 15:35
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DaemonFCwell, it does get along better with kwin, but it's still pretty sadJun 29 15:35
DaemonFCtearing, lousy 2d acceleration, the occasional glitch that causes X to lock upJun 29 15:37
DaemonFCtainted kernelJun 29 15:37
formic_I have Music,Videos,TV,Pictures folders on my home directory that are mounted nfs shares on my zfs boxJun 29 15:37
DaemonFCrunning the hardware from userspaceJun 29 15:37
DaemonFCgiant binary blob Jun 29 15:37
DaemonFCthe open source side is coming along nicely thoughJun 29 15:38
DaemonFCthe progress made since Ubuntu 12.04 was released is already substantialJun 29 15:38
DaemonFCit would be nice if they would take Catalyst out back and shoot itJun 29 15:39
DaemonFCthey're so detached from the people that actually have to use it that it seems like there effectively is nobody supporting itJun 29 15:40
formic_DaemonFC: also waiting for youporngay to switch from flash to html5 ?Jun 29 15:40
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DaemonFCwell, porn being in HTML 5 with open codecs would be fantastic because it would be one less compelling reason to have Trash installedJun 29 15:41
DaemonFCso it's great that we're seeing more smut going to HTML 5Jun 29 15:41
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 15:41
XFaCEFap...in freedomJun 29 15:42
formic_jeezJun 29 15:42
DaemonFCI'm not wild about the MPEG crap (still better than Trash), or having a subdomain called "iphone"Jun 29 15:42
DaemonFCbut...fapfapfapJun 29 15:42
formic_http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEyODUJun 29 15:42
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DaemonFCwhat was the topic again? :)Jun 29 15:42
formic_zomgJun 29 15:42
formic_KVM SECURE BOOT!Jun 29 15:42
XFaCEformic_: Secure Boot? In MY KVM?Jun 29 15:42
DaemonFCnow, ideally the porn would be under a free content license so people could share it without worrying about legal blackmailJun 29 15:43
XFaCE(It's more likely that you think. And probably, it's a trap)Jun 29 15:43
DaemonFCthat's probably the biggest problem with porn today if you ask meJun 29 15:43
DaemonFCeven worse than DRM or encumbered codecs or TrashJun 29 15:43
XFaCEThe most pressing issue to every nation ON THE PLANETJun 29 15:43
MinceRlolJun 29 15:43
formic_DaemonFC: didnt you hear? porn is an agenda to degrade society. no porn company has ever sued over people downloading.Jun 29 15:44
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DaemonFChow does porn degrade society?Jun 29 15:44
DaemonFCwhat could be worse than a society of religious fundamentalists?Jun 29 15:44
formic_it turns people into sex objectsJun 29 15:44
formic_promiscuityJun 29 15:44
MinceRwhat is a "sex object"?Jun 29 15:44
DaemonFCreligious fundamentalists tend to turn women into sex objectsJun 29 15:44
formic_leads to unwanted offspringJun 29 15:44
DaemonFCand require genital mutilation ritualsJun 29 15:45
DaemonFCstrange dietary habitsJun 29 15:45
formic_unwanted offspring allows the government to legislate abortionJun 29 15:45
DaemonFCand control over hat wearingJun 29 15:45
XFaCEformic_: No porn company has ever sued downloaders? Are you thick?Jun 29 15:45
formic_once abortion is on the books everywhere, they can start changing the rulesJun 29 15:45
MinceRstrange, there are numerous cases of lots of unwanted offspring without pornJun 29 15:45
DaemonFCit's a very fascist and authoritarian systemJun 29 15:45
MinceRi think denouncing contraception as evil has more to do with unwanted offspring than pornJun 29 15:45
formic_post-birth 'abortions' for people who dont agree with the systemJun 29 15:45
DaemonFCand porn is less damaging to society than religious fundamentalism Jun 29 15:45
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formic_use a condom or close your legsJun 29 15:45
formic_lolJun 29 15:46
MinceRlolJun 29 15:46
DaemonFCand that's really the only argument that needs to be made about pornJun 29 15:46
XFaCEformic_: You realize that pornography in some form has existed pretty much since the beginning of human society?Jun 29 15:46
DaemonFCif it does damage society, it's doing it less than the people who tend to be the most opposed to pornJun 29 15:46
MinceRi don't know if formic_ is seriousJun 29 15:46
formic_XFaCE: name a porn company that has sued downloadersJun 29 15:46
XFaCEformic_: Yeah, the 10000+ year old conspiracyJun 29 15:46
formic_MinceR: half seriousJun 29 15:46
XFaCEformic_: http://torrentfreak.com/you-cant-copyright-porn-bittorrent-defendant-insists-120206/Jun 29 15:47
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DaemonFCthat would be niceJun 29 15:47
DaemonFCan instant treasure trove of unencumbered smutJun 29 15:47
XFaCEMinceR: He's not a fan of abortionJun 29 15:47
formic_XFaCE: lolJun 29 15:47
formic_XFaCE: im surprisedJun 29 15:47
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formic_with so much porn out there, it would be bad PR to stop downloadersJun 29 15:48
formic_hyper competitionJun 29 15:48
MinceRanti-choice person complaining about unwanted offspring? does not computeJun 29 15:48
formic_i was just joking about the conspiracy partJun 29 15:48
XFaCEMinceR: Of course, the argument that pornography will cause people to become casual abortion users is ludicrousJun 29 15:48
DaemonFCI don't know why Christians are opposed to "killing babies"Jun 29 15:48
formic_there are few facts thoughJun 29 15:49
DaemonFCI mean, some of them would grow up to be gay and then the Christians would want to kill themJun 29 15:49
formic_if teenagers get access to porn it will effect their relationshipsJun 29 15:49
formic_my first time having sex was amazing, cause i learned so much from the internet ;)Jun 29 15:49
MinceRwhat's worse, if teenagers get access to people, it will affect their relationshipsJun 29 15:49
MinceRi propose banning peopleJun 29 15:49
DaemonFCbabies are God's way of telling you that you're sticking it in the wrong holeJun 29 15:49
XFaCEDaemonFC: "They would be beneficiaries of a an 'infinite good' from their worldly existence being terminated"Jun 29 15:50
MinceRto protect teenagersJun 29 15:50
DaemonFCbut many people just refuse to listen....Jun 29 15:50
DaemonFCtsk tskJun 29 15:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: (Paraphrased William Lane Craig)Jun 29 15:50
XFaCEDaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Na_wcvqUOYJun 29 15:50
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formic_there are people out there who think its some jewish conspiracy against gentiles to distribute pornJun 29 15:50
formic_i was making fun of themJun 29 15:51
XFaCEahJun 29 15:51
DaemonFCChristians aren't just obscene, they're annoying as all fuckJun 29 15:51
XFaCEDaemonFC: Watch the video for the quote I'm referring tooJun 29 15:51
XFaCE*toJun 29 15:51
MinceRformic_: oh, i seeJun 29 15:51
formic_msb_ right?Jun 29 15:52
formic_im sure you've heard that one too while researching 9/11 and thermite dustJun 29 15:53
DaemonFC"thou shalt not covet thine neighbor's......ass"Jun 29 15:53
DaemonFCdon't worry, I've seen my neighbor's ass, and it is just sadJun 29 15:53
DaemonFC:(Jun 29 15:53
formic_DaemonFC: dont worry god doesnt hate you yet, you dont wear womens garmentsJun 29 15:53
formic_or do you?Jun 29 15:53
DaemonFCit's a comfort thingJun 29 15:54
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 15:54
DaemonFCno, I don'tJun 29 15:54
XFaCEI dressed up as an old lady for Halloween once, does that count?Jun 29 15:54
formic_XFaCE: God already hates you LiberalJun 29 15:54
formic_as Ann Coulter would sayJun 29 15:54
DaemonFCI don't see why it's wrong for a man to wear a woman's clothesJun 29 15:54
DaemonFCalthough I might have to stop to giggle about itJun 29 15:55
DaemonFCnot because I think it's wrong, just because I think that women's clothing doesn't fit most men properlyJun 29 15:55
DaemonFCand that is amusingJun 29 15:55
DaemonFCmost women aren't 6'4" and 200 poundsJun 29 15:56
DaemonFCso most men would look ridiculous in women's clothingJun 29 15:56
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XFaCEformic_: Fuck man, I'm a centristJun 29 15:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1755357Jun 29 15:56
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schestowitzXFaCE: good luck with all thatJun 29 15:56
DaemonFCyou knowJun 29 15:57
XFaCEAGHHH!!! schestowitz comes alive!!Jun 29 15:57
schestowitzit's midnight!Jun 29 15:57
XFaCEschestowitz: With all what?Jun 29 15:57
DaemonFCI'm OK with how people live their lives as long as they aren't hurting other peopleJun 29 15:57
XFaCEschestowitz: No it's not, you communistJun 29 15:57
DaemonFCor coercing other peopleJun 29 15:57
DaemonFCor taking other people's property to do it with (including money)Jun 29 15:57
XFaCESubmit to the RIGHT way, the WESTERN way, schestowitz Jun 29 15:57
XFaCEand the RIGHT WESTERN way says it's midday!Jun 29 15:58
XFaCEThere can be no other perspectives or reality, obviouslyJun 29 15:58
formic_XFaCE: a centrist?Jun 29 15:58
formic_wth is thatJun 29 15:58
schestowitzwhat's the Western way?Jun 29 15:59
schestowitzThere are many aspects to itJun 29 15:59
schestowitzIP, democracy, equality, etc.Jun 29 16:00
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schestowitznot that those are preserved or make senseJun 29 16:00
formic_I'm an anarcho-explorationistJun 29 16:00
schestowitzhi jonoJun 29 16:00
jonohey schestowitzJun 29 16:00
XFaCE[10:55] <schestowitz> XFaCE: good luck with all that ?Jun 29 16:00
XFaCEI'm stil awaiting clarificationJun 29 16:00
formic_an anarcho-explorationist advocates leaving the planet and exploring the universe without the need for earth governmentJun 29 16:01
XFaCEformic_: Just invest in Zephram CochraneJun 29 16:01
DaemonFCnow, jono, there's a guy who wears womens clothingJun 29 16:01
DaemonFChe's probably making a woman suit right as we speak!Jun 29 16:01
formic_XFaCE: that'll lead to the United Nations/FederationJun 29 16:01
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 16:01
XFaCEformic_: Replicators and holodecks? sounds pretty niceJun 29 16:02
formic_the federation are just a bunch of peace loving pussiesJun 29 16:02
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XFaCEShut it Romulan!Jun 29 16:02
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XFaCEfuck jono, make up your mind!!Jun 29 16:02
XFaCEShit or get off the can.Jun 29 16:02
formic_XFaCE: ill just find an Orion slave girl =)Jun 29 16:02
jonololJun 29 16:02
DaemonFCI liked the idea of The DoctorJun 29 16:03
schestowitzwhat's rather disturbing is the excessive sleep last night. I must also rush this weekend to release some Android code.Jun 29 16:03
XFaCEformic_: No human male can resist themJun 29 16:03
DaemonFCand later when he could become the Emergency Command HologramJun 29 16:03
XFaCEformic_: Of course, if that episode had been in the 90s, it may have been changed to "no human"Jun 29 16:03
XFaCEThat's sounds awesomeJun 29 16:03
formic_i thought human females were immuneJun 29 16:03
XFaCEformic_: That was never specifiedJun 29 16:04
schestowitzGermany lost, now I have no interest in the cup (neither finalist do I care for)Jun 29 16:04
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/94990282Jun 29 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr@Jason Self (jxself)'s status on Thursday, 28-Jun-12 14:54:41 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz The !Ubuntu / Canonical position is not based in reality.Jun 29 16:04
XFaCEformic_: I think Enterprise allowed women to be influened tooJun 29 16:04
nj3mahi schestowitz,Jun 29 16:06
DaemonFCI love how the NX-01 looked more advanced than the ships in TOSJun 29 16:06
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 16:06
formic_XFaCE: pheromonesJun 29 16:06
XFaCEDaemonFC: AkirapriseJun 29 16:06
XFaCEformic_: "The crewmembers seem obviously distracted by the very seductive women: the men begin competing with one another and exhibit aggressive behavior, while female crew-members experience intense headaches."Jun 29 16:06
formic_seeJun 29 16:07
XFaCEdamnJun 29 16:07
XFaCE"T'Pol tells Tucker that he is unaffected by the pheromones because, since Tucker and T'Pol have "mated", he is bound psychically to her, and thus he enjoys the immunity granted by her Vulcan physiology. "Jun 29 16:07
formic_star trek nerd fantasy: T'Pol and 7of9 in a 3 wayJun 29 16:07
XFaCEWith Troi?Jun 29 16:07
formic_that would be a 4 wayJun 29 16:08
formic_including yourselfJun 29 16:08
XFaCEOr you could sit and watchJun 29 16:08
formic_troi i dunnoJun 29 16:08
formic_not enough boobageJun 29 16:08
XFaCElolJun 29 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] LinuxCon North America Alumni - 20% discount on reg fees today only. Register w/ code: ALUM12NA: http://ur1.ca/9l5jiJun 29 16:09
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schestowitznj3ma: hey mateJun 29 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] So MapZen was discontinued. #ni Vespucci for Android #osmJun 29 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I see potatoes and animal flesh in conjunction with curry powder and alcohol. I have foreseen Identica night lo! It is a miracle.Jun 29 16:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Countries That Don't Put In Place Copyright Regimes The US Likes May Be Deemed 'Cybersecurity Concerns' - http://bit.ly/LVEjcJ ah, the stickJun 29 16:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Europe Reaches Agreement On Unitary Patent - http://bit.ly/NKmqMG bad news; here's why - http://bit.ly/MpydnAJun 29 16:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1753403Jun 29 16:23
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schestowitz"But much later they found knoledge and became anarchists."Jun 29 16:23
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1754334Jun 29 16:23
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![say when, slaves](http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8858/slihouettemanwonderswtf.jpg) [Source](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/26/1103368/-The-One-Comic-That-Explains-Just-How-Screwed-America-Is) #occupy #ows #anarchy #anarchism #fauxbama #obama #dontvoteJun 29 16:23
schestowitz"One of the answers is bigotry and racism. People have been told that their neighbors are neither worthy nor capable of bearing an education. Instead of investing in schools, these people build walls and jails. It wastes lives and resources."Jun 29 16:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WTO Rules Against Yet Another U.S. Consumer Protection Policy - http://bit.ly/MvwEEG "will only intensify public opposition to #TPP"Jun 29 16:24
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1749996Jun 29 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nine Reasons to Choose GNOME 2 Clones http://www.datamation.com/open-source/nine-reasons-to-choose-gnome-2-clones-1.html #gnome #gnu #linuxJun 29 16:25
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schestowitz""But, compared today to KDE, GNOME 3 and Unity, all of which require a gigabyte of RAM for decent performance..." - yesterday installed Chakra linux on old PC with one core and 512 MB ram, forks fine with kde. "Customizable Panel" - kde has it. Author is drunk or smth?"Jun 29 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Good News For Spies and Dictators: ‘FreedomBox’ Is in Danger of an Early Death - http://bit.ly/McKM6q not good #moglenJun 29 16:25
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1753829Jun 29 16:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Red Hat's announcements became utterly boring. It's all nonsense about "Virtualization" and "Cloud".Jun 29 16:26
schestowitz"KVM is useful and we might see the revenge of "network computing" as a way to roll out gnu/linux in large companies."Jun 29 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jdebeckker Mij ook al zot gezocht. Moet je speciaal bestellen naar verluidtJun 29 16:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Big e-reader is watching you - http://bit.ly/MEU6xf something to bear in mind #ebooksJun 29 16:29
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formic_kvm kicks assJun 29 16:31
formic_virtio ftwJun 29 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Websites Deemed 'Place Of Public Accommodation' Under ADA; Expects Lots Of Sites To Get Sued - http://bit.ly/KR1Pdd crazy copyright probs?Jun 29 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Supposed to learn how to bake a cake by Dec. So, good folk, what goes into a blackforest?Jun 29 16:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: Cloud virtualization helps IT departments unlock potential for expanded operational efficiency and market utilizationJun 29 16:41
DaemonFCdont'cha know? :)Jun 29 16:41
DaemonFCjono knowsJun 29 16:42
DaemonFCyou walk into his apartment and it's just one giant cloudJun 29 16:42
DaemonFCjono's boss is a little cranky thoughJun 29 16:43
DaemonFC"#$%@ing Red Hat, get off my cloud!"Jun 29 16:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I would like you all to know that my upstairs freezer is defrosting. #dripJun 29 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] And blackout. :-(Jun 29 16:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Europe Reaches Agreement On Unitary Patent - http://bit.ly/NKmqMG bad news; here's why - http://bit.ly/MpydnAJun 29 16:49
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DaemonFChttp://www.thestarpress.com/article/C7/20120629/LIFESTYLE/306290003/When-times-get-tough-tattoos-come-off?odyssey=nav|headJun 29 16:54
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DaemonFCyeah, you have to "look right"*Jun 29 16:54
DaemonFC*as determined by your employerJun 29 16:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Club Edge. Jun 29 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Google plans to ease the Android update problem (The H) http://ur1.ca/9l5tyJun 29 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #PartedMagic update adds proprietary #NVIDIA driver option http://ur1.ca/9l5uc #gnu #linuxJun 29 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] $199 Google #Nexus7 tablet has only 5.92GB of free memory and no micro SD card slot http://goo.gl/Pxfiw #failJun 29 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The weird codenames of #Linux kernels http://ur1.ca/9l5uf #kernelJun 29 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Qubes OS: A Linux Distro For Security And Virtualization http://ur1.ca/9l5uk #gnu #linuxJun 29 17:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Do passwords matter? http://goo.gl/uCLbY #securityJun 29 17:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mandriva Will Not Abandon RPM 5 http://ur1.ca/9l5up #gnu #linux #rpmJun 29 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Canonical : “ #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Adoption Grew 160 Per Cent In India Last Year” http://ur1.ca/9l5v7 #freedom #indiaJun 29 17:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] TeK > BlackBerry com Windows 8 a caminho? http://goo.gl/CPxS2 #rim mas mas não vêem o caso #msnokia? mais cego é aquele que se recusa a verJun 29 17:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #patents RT @glynmoody: Europe Reaches Agreement On Unitary Patent - http://bit.ly/NKmqMG bad news; here's why - http://bit.ly/MpydnAJun 29 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Big e-reader is watching you - http://bit.ly/MEU6xf something to bear in mind #ebooksJun 29 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Europe Fines #Microsoft for Abuses, But Continues Funnelling Public Money to Microsoft; the Greek Set Fire to Microsoft ...Jun 29 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon !identiverseJun 29 17:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've just found out the reason upgrading !Trisquel is taking so long is that the upgrade *removed* a necessary 'proprietary' driver #FAILJun 29 17:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @diablod3 Over 130 Representatives Spell Out Their Concerns With TPP In Letter To Ron Kirk http://ur1.ca/9l0pmJun 29 17:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If I wanted to allow an OS to REMOVE anything from my computer, I'd still be using #Windows. I am unimaginably disappointed in !TrisquelJun 29 17:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95021211Jun 29 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Friday, 29-Jun-12 16:29:34 UTC - linuxwrangling: @schestowitz aah yes, good old homicidal dwarf hamster.Jun 29 17:36
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95020939Jun 29 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 29-Jun-12 16:18:51 UTC - Identi.ca: The weird codenames of #Linux kernels  http://ur1.ca/9l5uf #kernelJun 29 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The driver that offended !Trisquel #FAIL was free enough for the previous versions. I'm bloody lucky to have a netbook to use right now.Jun 29 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good evening @theru :)Jun 29 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @parlementum @laurelrusswurm Where’s HAL when you need him :)Jun 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !tzag and good afternoon @skplJun 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @BreakingNews: European court upholds Microsoft fine, cuts it by 39 million euros to 860 million euros ($1.1 billion) - @APJun 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @ECspokesRyan: Court has upheld the Commission's Microsoft interopability case and fine from 2008. (fine now €860 million) + we r wor ...Jun 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: A wake-up call for the media sector - http://t.co/owI6ejRY #eBooks #EUMFF12 #digitalsinglemarketJun 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Care about future of media in digital age? Read this: I will be http://t.co/AlKcXD5b http://t.co/owI6ejRYJun 29 17:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @rlarno not from Sunday! your #roaming data price will go down from €3.63/MB to a max of €0.84. THAT is the value of #EUJun 29 17:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] #EUParliament promotes mandatory e-Call emergency system (video http://t.co/PI59hxNC), as @NeelieKroesEU proposed 2011 http://t.co/yna8VKkFJun 29 17:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Revealed: the scale of sexual abuse by #police officers - http://bit.ly/KHZyMI awful (v @PoliceStateUK @bc_tmh)Jun 29 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I could understand it if !Trisquel chose not to access it; what I can't condone is taking it off *my* computer. That's not freedom.Jun 29 17:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Not just withdrawal of hardware support, REMOVAL of driver !Trisquel #FAILJun 29 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good ... evening? @insciusJun 29 17:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] #EUParliament promotes mandatory e-Call emergency system (video http://t.co/PI59hxNC), as @NeelieKroesEU proposed 2011 http://t.co/yna8VKkFJun 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: And sorry to miss you too @AlecJRoss so pleased you are back inspiring us in Brussels #EUJun 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Nick @pinkfloyd - sorry I missed you today at Parliament. Let's catch up next time (and don't be so modest!)Jun 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: Great conference on media pluralism in the dig age. Had the pleasure to talk about challenges & way fwd, speech online...Jun 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: My speech today on media freedom & pluralism http://t.co/3ZAWp5UP. It's about democracy, freedom, Europe. #nmf27Jun 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: "if aim is to separate media from governments... risk is that regulation does opposite". http://t.co/fmzJ66NG #nmf27Jun 29 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] At Czech Interior Ministry today, being briefed on #egovernment systems. Ambitious architecture and impressive usage figuresJun 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] When moving all companies to secure electronic document exchange Czech government discovered about 25% of companies didn't exist anymore...Jun 29 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: While #eBooks boom around world, Europe shoots itself in the foot. Me in @commentisfree: http://t.co/oLqgBYPd...Jun 29 17:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: As of this Sunday: wave goodbye to mobile internet rip-offs when #roaming in the EU http://t.co/wTpY4EO9Jun 29 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @bjkbrocker: Watch @NeelieKroesEU fantastic talk about "Open Culture" and the future for collections http://t.co/migJevKFJun 29 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @teirdes new caps are much lower than what many currently offer - and will go down yet further in subsequent yrs #roamingJun 29 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: #ff @lindaliukas @babgi @jangulliksen @GerganaPassy @digivaardig @alesspetic @MTDigitalChamp @Marthalanefox...Jun 29 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: complete list of #digital champions here https://t.co/UUaAmhzw http://t.co/P6GoRtswJun 29 17:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Agreement On EU Unitary Patent Reached - http://bit.ly/N2VvyD good detailed analysis (v @netzpolitik)Jun 29 17:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Original: Weekend Project: Math, Science, and Ubuntu Come Together in Mathbuntu bit.ly/OJilhV #linuxJun 29 18:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @glynmoody Revealed: the scale of sexual abuse by #police officers - http://bit.ly/KHZyMI awful (v @PoliceStateUK @bc_tmh)Jun 29 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Be angry at bankers, be angrier at economists http://goo.gl/hC7KzJun 29 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk maybe she didn't even see the question. I recall she got mad at me for stating @rms's position once, and blocked meJun 29 18:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "For British banks there has been nothing like it since they almost went bankrupt in 2008." #LIBOR #funnyJun 29 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk but the reason I'm curious is that I don't recall having ever disabled a driver that worked in previous releases of Linux-libreJun 29 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 12 signed up for #SchoolofOpen Challenges Workshop in Berlin, 26 July. In the area? RSVP now: http://bit.ly/NedmD2 #OERJun 29 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk now, Trisquel installs kernel patches on top of Linux-libre, so it's not impossible that the change was in one of themJun 29 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Mario Balotelli as a black Italian hero: long may it last http://goo.gl/ega6iJun 29 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] How #PFI is crippling the #NHS http://goo.gl/Q58TeJun 29 18:09
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DaemonFCthat's better...Jun 29 18:11
DaemonFCfixed a drip leak in my toilet tankJun 29 18:11
DaemonFCit's amazing how annoying a drip sound can beJun 29 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] 2012 Paris ‪#OER‬ Declaration passed UNESCO. Read @cgreen's wrapup & full declaration: http://bit.ly/LFJqzs ‪#openpolicy‬Jun 29 18:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer http://is.gd/kROKR3Jun 29 18:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk much longer ago than 3.0, actually. I don't know of openfwwf failing. clearly we need more info.Jun 29 18:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Websites Deemed 'Place Of Public Accommodation' Under The ADA; Expects Lots Of Sites To Get Sued http://is.gd/PK03nrJun 29 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) Alpha 2 Released! http://ur1.ca/9l64b #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 29 18:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Countries That Don't Put In Place Copyright Regimes The US Likes May Be Deemed 'Cybersecurity Concerns' http://is.gd/dRC0rgJun 29 18:20
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DaemonFChttp://hagerstownsmiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cat-dentist-toothbrush1.jpgJun 29 18:22
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DaemonFClolJun 29 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Tomorrow is the last day to submit to the art competition of Liberated Pixel Cup! http://ur1.ca/9l639 Style guide here http://ur1.ca/9fbqmJun 29 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anonymous Courtroom Notes Raise Serious Questions About #SurfTheChannel Conviction http://is.gd/7WDvELJun 29 18:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @inscius Bullshit Man - best superhero ever http://youtu.be/tmERX0tTIUUJun 29 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @tekk sure, that's why we need more info, for the driver is there. how about the openfwwf pkg, and /lib/firmware/b43*/*.fw?Jun 29 18:27
DaemonFCschestowitz: I did some checking around the house to see if there were any more yellow jacket nests and I found a large oneJun 29 18:29
DaemonFCnuked it B-)Jun 29 18:30
DaemonFCI had most of the can of raid left from taking out that nest they were starting on my carJun 29 18:30
*DaemonFC has never seen many yellow jackets around hereJun 29 18:30
DaemonFChope this isn't the start of somethingJun 29 18:30
schestowitz!google yellow jacketJun 29 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Yellowjacket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YellowjacketJun 29 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - HVAC Tools and Refrigeration Supplies | YELLOW JACKET ... | http://www.yellowjacket.com/Jun 29 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Yellowjackets and Other Social Wasp Management Guidelines--UC ... | http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7450.htmlJun 29 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Types of Bees - Hornets, Yellow Jackets, Wasps & Ground, Bumble ... | http://www.thebeehunter.com/types-of-bees.htmlJun 29 18:30
DaemonFCthey're a type of waspJun 29 18:31
schestowitzdidn't know..Jun 29 18:31
schestowitznever got stung by any, was lucky..Jun 29 18:31
DaemonFCthey're horribleJun 29 18:31
schestowitzaggressive? Trigger-happy?Jun 29 18:31
DaemonFCthey're very territorial, extremely aggressiveJun 29 18:31
DaemonFCcan sting you as many times as they wantJun 29 18:31
schestowitzFriends get all frantic when one stalks me, esp. around the eyes?Jun 29 18:31
DaemonFCand they tend to swarmJun 29 18:32
schestowitzoh, not kamikaze ones?Jun 29 18:32
DaemonFCI opened my trunk and several of them came flying out after meJun 29 18:32
schestowitzwith kamikaze-like ones you really have to try to attack them for them to sting youJun 29 18:32
schestowitzLike sitting on oneJun 29 18:32
DaemonFCI was lucky enough to get awayJun 29 18:32
schestowitzlolJun 29 18:32
schestowitzI would pay to see itJun 29 18:33
schestowitzfrom a distant the wasps are not visibleJun 29 18:33
DaemonFCflying things with stingers must dieJun 29 18:33
schestowitzso you''d basically look like Dawn after a night outJun 29 18:33
schestowitzso where would honey come from?Jun 29 18:33
DaemonFCwell, I found a $1 off coupon for "Hot Shot wasp and hornet killer" from the newspaperJun 29 18:33
schestowitzThe artificial ones are crap?Jun 29 18:33
schestowitzI want the real bee pukeJun 29 18:34
DaemonFCand today was double coupon day at the storeJun 29 18:34
schestowitzaka honeyJun 29 18:34
DaemonFCso I got a huge can of the stuff for like $2Jun 29 18:34
schestowitzit's good in your water supply, tooJun 29 18:34
schestowitzbetter than frackingJun 29 18:34
DaemonFCit says you shouldn't use it if it's raining outsideJun 29 18:35
DaemonFCI don't know why it would matterJun 29 18:35
schestowitzdoes it evaporate?Jun 29 18:35
DaemonFCmustJun 29 18:35
schestowitzMaybe they think it can get in the eyes if mixed with liquidJun 29 18:35
DaemonFCif it stayed on the ground, eventually it would rain and wash it into the storm drainJun 29 18:35
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DaemonFCit works well enoughJun 29 18:36
schestowitzhow do you know?Jun 29 18:36
schestowitzif it's flammable, use it with a match, make a flame-throwerJun 29 18:36
schestowitzburn the jacketsJun 29 18:36
DaemonFCsome of it gets on a wasp, it falls out of the air, deadJun 29 18:36
DaemonFChttp://www.hotshot.com/Products-and-Solutions/Aero-Wasp-Hornet/Wasp-Hornet.aspxJun 29 18:37
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schestowitzi bet you go lik a kid now , hopping happily in the forst looking for ones to killJun 29 18:37
schestowitzavengeJun 29 18:37
DaemonFCyeah, that's itJun 29 18:37
schestowitzpayback timeJun 29 18:37
schestowitzit's probably manufactured in some southern state by poor peopleJun 29 18:38
DaemonFCyeah, but they vote for Republicans so they don't deserve to liveJun 29 18:38
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 18:38
schestowitzso they take up all the toxins, die before retirement without health insurance, and can never sue the makerJun 29 18:38
schestowitzor maybe in IndiaJun 29 18:38
schestowitzLike BhopalJun 29 18:38
DaemonFCwe don't need anyone who actually voted for George W. BushJun 29 18:39
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_jacketJun 29 18:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security updates for Friday http://ur1.ca/9l67oJun 29 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @laquadrature [en][TechDirt] ACTAfacts? ACTAfiction? Or Just Unsourced Pro-ACTA Propaganda Purporting To Be Objective? http://lqdn.fr ...Jun 29 18:39
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schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TwoYearNest.jpgJun 29 18:39
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schestowitzlooks like an elephant's doucheJun 29 18:39
DaemonFCthese things are wickedJun 29 18:39
schestowitzrepublicans?Jun 29 18:40
iophkYellow jacketsJun 29 18:41
schestowitzsame thing; you think they give you honey, but they just bite you in the arse every timeJun 29 18:41
DaemonFC"In the southeastern United States, where southern yellowjacket (Vespula squamosa) nests may persist through the winter, colony sizes of this species may reach 100,000 adult wasps."Jun 29 18:41
iophkNo honey from yellow jackets, just multiple stingsJun 29 18:41
DaemonFCdoes ANYTHING good happen there?Jun 29 18:41
DaemonFCyou'd think the state would go out and fucking kill those things at some pointJun 29 18:42
DaemonFCthey're hardly endangeredJun 29 18:42
schestowitzno snakes in the UKJun 29 18:42
schestowitz!google whacking dayJun 29 18:42
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Whacking Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whacking_DayJun 29 18:42
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Whackingday.com | http://www.whackingday.com/Jun 29 18:42
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Whacking Day - Simpsons Wiki | http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Whacking_DayJun 29 18:42
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The Simpsons Episode 420 Whacking Day | Watch cartoons online ... | http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-episode-420-whacking-dayJun 29 18:42
DaemonFCno raccoons eitherJun 29 18:43
DaemonFCaccording to WikipediaJun 29 18:43
iophkYellow jackets sting just because you happen to be in the vicinity.Jun 29 18:44
iophkWoe to you if you actually disturb the nest.Jun 29 18:44
schestowitz"Snakes are protected by law. All snakes in the UK are protected under The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981"Jun 29 18:44
schestowitzhttp://www.woking.gov.uk/planning/envhealthservice/pest/snakesJun 29 18:45
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schestowitz"It is illegal to kill or injure native snakes."Jun 29 18:45
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iophk"In fact, hogs like to eat snakes, slurping them up like spaghetti."Jun 29 18:46
iophkhttp://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1817&dat=19820227&id=nSUdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TqUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2294,5744882Jun 29 18:46
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schestowitzhttp://www.woking.gov.uk/planning/envhealthservice/pest/beeJun 29 18:46
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schestowitz"Workers concentrate on collecting food and they are essential pollinators."Jun 29 18:46
iophkActual honey bees are a valuable find.Jun 29 18:47
schestowitz"The sting of a bee is different from a wasp sting as the bee leaves the stinger, with the venom sac attached, sticking in the victim."Jun 29 18:47
DaemonFCschestowitz's queen isn't fertle or colonizingJun 29 18:47
DaemonFCbut she did get Big Ben renamed after herselfJun 29 18:47
DaemonFC:)Jun 29 18:47
schestowitz"These are common in May and June, and bees usually remain in the same place for a maximum of two days before moving on to take up permanent residence."Jun 29 18:47
DaemonFC*fertile Jun 29 18:47
schestowitz"Bees are not considered pests and can bring new life to the flowering plants in their area. If you have any special worries, for example an allergy to bee stings or concern for your family, a pest control contractor or beekeeper can give advice about control methods."Jun 29 18:48
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DaemonFCyeah, bees aren't so badJun 29 18:48
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DaemonFCbees are pretty reluctant to sting Jun 29 18:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk already rebooted, loaded old kernel w/o good results - gui can't get to the log in screen ... stuck with a terminal #notgoodJun 29 18:49
schestowitzthey wear allegiance to their queen, like UK coppersJun 29 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Linux desktop, thanks to Chromebooks, goes retail http://ur1.ca/9l69j #linuxJun 29 18:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1757680Jun 29 18:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Canonical : “ #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Adoption Grew 160 Per Cent In India Last Year” http://news.efytimes.com/e1/86247/Ubuntu-Adoption-Grew--Per-Cent-In-India-Last-Year #freedom #indiaJun 29 18:59
schestowitz"Nice to see Ubuntu adoption growing in India!"Jun 29 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: Build the Perfect Bug Out Bag: Your 72-Hour Disaster Survival Kit (9781440318740) #Books http://goo.gl/UeSOK #preppers #bobJun 29 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Amazon.com: Build the Perfect Survival Kit (0046081009679): John D. McCann: #Books http://goo.gl/UcfJU #preppers #bobJun 29 19:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Going to @_defcon_? We can level up the @effsummit fundraiser. We have the technology: https://eff.org/r.4admJun 29 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] “We Are Preparing For Massive Civil War,” Says #DHS Informant http://goo.gl/Qda8U #preppersJun 29 19:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: “We Are Preparing For Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant (NYSEARCA:GLD, NYSEARCA:SLV, NYSEARCA:UUP, NYSEARCA:UDN) | ETF DAILY NEWS .::. Size~: 191.19 KBJun 29 19:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @NeelieKroesEU: @BarryDyke if yr provider is overcharging u it's got nothing 2 do w/ #EU- use yr feet, know yr power! Prices cut in...Jun 29 19:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » SWAT Team Throws Flashbangs, Raids Wrong Home Due to Open WiFi Network http://goo.gl/Ofmxs #usa #policestateJun 29 19:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @NeelieKroesEU: @BarryDyke if yr provider is overcharging u it's got nothing 2 do w/ #EU- use yr feet, k http://p.ost.im/p/e3gdNAJun 29 19:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk the firmware exists (in folder) and b43 is in the message - identified as broadcom 4306 WLANJun 29 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk iwconfig sees wlan0 but no IP addressJun 29 19:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice 3.6 Bug Hunting Party on July 6 and 7: http://ur1.ca/9l6g5Jun 29 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Ad biz claims it must disregard user #privacy choices to safeguard cybersecurity https://eff.org/r.5aepJun 29 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk so what happened to the stuff in /etc/network/interfacesJun 29 19:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Vinyl cutting on Linux: the real deal (Libre Graphics World) http://ur1.ca/9l6gwJun 29 19:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk success! now ... where did the gui go? Get the splash screen and I see the Trisquel but its not pulsingJun 29 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @dozykraut EU Software-Patent "inventors" by country http://j.mp/LVQBlx if this doesn't scare EU SMEs, nothing will. ‪#swpats‬Jun 29 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Live Q&A With Rick Falkvinge & Christian Engstrom Concerning 'The Case For Copyright Reform' http://is.gd/XIndN5Jun 29 19:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] David Chaum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://goo.gl/65ZwN #cryptoJun 29 19:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Turkey's army gathers on #Syria.n border | CollapseNet http://goo.gl/1sTN4 #nato #stateterrorismJun 29 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Softwarepatente in Europa - Worum geht es? - http://bit.ly/OK0Fmu lots of good background (v @dozykraut) #swpatsJun 29 19:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk have connectivity ...Jun 29 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk that's fine... you've helped a lot, good progress -- enjoy the beach!Jun 29 19:39
formic_DaemonFC: I was channeling with my scrabble tiles, I got a message for you from the Archonic beingsJun 29 19:41
formic_DaemonFC: "Stop being a fag"Jun 29 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk there is no gdm3 just gdmJun 29 19:42
DaemonFCsomething is wrong with ktorrent Jun 29 19:43
DaemonFCmagnet no worky :(Jun 29 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk thanks! now *go to the beach* (with sunscreen :)Jun 29 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk :)Jun 29 19:44
formic_http://www.transmissionbt.com/Jun 29 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk no gdm running ... it claims to be starting but nothing happensJun 29 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Preparing lots of code for upload this week... http://ur1.ca/9l6ktJun 29 19:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] RT @OpenAccessEC: "Partial reporting of results of CT obscures relationships between cause and effect. We should publish all data" http: ...Jun 29 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk every time error message in dmesg gdm main process terminated with status 1Jun 29 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who needs in-body #RFID when using the Orwellian style-named "PATRIOT Act" the US/NSA tracks your head anywhere you go? http://ur1.ca/9l6l5Jun 29 19:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] when money is tight, public services being cut all over the place, now we award Charlie an 11% wage rise? WTF? #Monarchy #parasitesJun 29 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cellular network carriers in the #UK are not providing quick government queries for the US, unlike Google's datacentres and US carriers.Jun 29 19:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] It was recently revealed that coordinates provided by one's cellphone are used by drones to shoot their missiles into #imperialism #spacewarJun 29 19:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Cellular network carriers in the #UK are not providing quick government queries for the US, unlike Google's datacentres ...Jun 29 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb when money is tight, public services being cut all over the place, now we award Charlie an 11% wage rise? WTF? #Monarchy ...Jun 29 19:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If you are not a terrorist, worry not about drones (unless you live in the 'wrong' country) because only "we" have them http://ur1.ca/9l6llJun 29 19:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Cameron "crimes in banking must be punished" (with a light slap on the wrist as a PR soother, so we don't close future exploit loopholes)Jun 29 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @thistleweb when money is tight, public services being cut all over the place, now we award Charlie an 11% wage rise? WTF? #Monarchy ...Jun 29 20:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] This is to thank the very brilliant @tekk for extremely helpful problem solving; in hopes he has a great (well deserved) day at the beach :)Jun 29 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'd guess the Volstead Act, @whistlewright @lnxwalt280Jun 29 20:05
iophkhttps://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228674/Google_exec_claims_Chrome_is_the_world_s_most_popular_browserJun 29 20:09
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formic_yeahJun 29 20:10
formic_google isJun 29 20:10
formic_er chrome isJun 29 20:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: RT @dozykraut EU Software-Patent "inventors" by country http://j.mp/LVQBlx if this doesn't scare EU SMEs, nothing willJun 29 20:10
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iophkAndroid installation have to count for a lot.Jun 29 20:11
formic_android doesnt come with chrome by defaultJun 29 20:11
formic_it comes with some jabroni browserJun 29 20:12
MinceRthe rock's browser?Jun 29 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @laurens_vdp: Gogo!! #firstsight #bemyappBE http://t.co/HRLJicaoJun 29 20:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Proud to have Sacha in the board of iRail RT @laurens_vdp: Gogo!! #firstsight #bemyappBE http://t.co/RaXGdML2Jun 29 20:12
iophkDoes Chrome get picked first because C come before F in the list?Jun 29 20:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twitter / laurens_vdp: Gogo!! #firstsight #bemyap .::. Size~: 78.81 KBJun 29 20:12
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formic_iophk what list?Jun 29 20:13
formic_MinceR: lolJun 29 20:13
formic_http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jabroniJun 29 20:14
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iophkApp store or whatever it is called.Jun 29 20:14
formic_iophk: what are you sorting byJun 29 20:14
formic_top free apps?Jun 29 20:14
iophkSorting by name.Jun 29 20:14
formic_firefox is usually above chromeJun 29 20:14
formic_how do you sort by nameJun 29 20:14
iophkI still use a feature phone.  It hasn't worn out yet.Jun 29 20:15
formic_https://play.google.com/store/appsJun 29 20:15
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formic_ahhhJun 29 20:15
formic_there is no sort by name, if there was obviously chrome would be firstJun 29 20:15
formic_its not android boosting chromes numbersJun 29 20:16
formic_firefox has 75k votes, and chrome has 35k votes (on play store)Jun 29 20:17
iophkGoogle Play appears to make no differentiation between gratis and liberty.  When I saw 'Free' apps, I immediately assumed FLOSS but most of it is freeware tripe.Jun 29 20:18
formic_opera has 296kJun 29 20:18
formic_iophk: yeahJun 29 20:18
formic_'free' as in free beerJun 29 20:18
iophkSome of the free are crippleware or something similar.Jun 29 20:18
formic_when did google ever give a shit about liberty?Jun 29 20:19
formic_people just fap about android because its linuxJun 29 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz If you are not a terrorist, worry not about drones (unless you live in the 'wrong' country) because only "we" have them ...Jun 29 20:19
formic_even though it has all the same shit you'd find on windowsJun 29 20:19
formic_including anti virusJun 29 20:19
formic_the alternatives? the even worse iOS or Windows 8Jun 29 20:19
formic_im even running winamp on androidJun 29 20:20
formic_lolJun 29 20:20
formic_WINampJun 29 20:20
iophkNo Clementine or Rhythmbox?Jun 29 20:21
formic_on android?Jun 29 20:21
formic_noJun 29 20:21
formic_have you ever seen or used android?Jun 29 20:21
iophkI'm not seeing any 'free' apps on their list that I would want to install.  No I had not seen it yet and my impression of Android was truly mistaken. Jun 29 20:21
formic_yes it wasJun 29 20:21
iophkI thought it would be more like Meego or MaemoJun 29 20:22
formic_android only has one thing in common with linuxJun 29 20:22
formic_the kernelJun 29 20:22
formic_it doesnt even use GNU stuffJun 29 20:22
iophkIt looks like it could be a closed system built around the linux kernel.Jun 29 20:22
iophkRIght I knew it did not use GNU.Jun 29 20:22
formic_android 3.x was a closed systemJun 29 20:22
formic_they only opened the code again after 4.0Jun 29 20:22
formic_the best comparision is this: Google Android is to Linux, as OSX is to FreeBSDJun 29 20:23
iophkOICJun 29 20:23
MinceRis there a free software package manager/"app store" for android already?Jun 29 20:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I was loathe to scratch out Windows logo on keyboard as it lights up. It looks even better now with black tape on super user key.Jun 29 20:24
formic_the main difference though now is that google contributes to linux, and apple forked freebsd into darwinJun 29 20:24
iophkThere are a lot of gambling apps.  I notice there's no Go client yet.  A Go network could get a lot of money if it were tied to betting on games or something like that.Jun 29 20:26
iophkDarwin is kind of free, just that OS X is locked down derivative of Darwin.Jun 29 20:26
MinceRit doesn't add any value to freebsd or mach, thoughJun 29 20:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] probably won't be selective - bad for all or for noneJun 29 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Extending #Patent Protection For Antibiotics Creates Perverse Incentives To Render Them Useless - http://bit.ly/KRrqTt & that's not goodJun 29 20:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 112 dents!Jun 29 20:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Apologize for maligning !Trisquel ... which did not, in fact, remove the necessary driver ~ cranky in my 3rd "upgrade" attempt #problemsJun 29 21:00
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ThistleWebAnything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things.Jun 29 21:14
abeNd-orgnope, i thought the iphone was lame when it first came out & i am 35 nowJun 29 21:15
ThistleWebshoulda said, that's a Douglas Adams quoteJun 29 21:15
abeNd-organd ive met plenty of technophobes well under 35, and plenty of 60yr olds who embrace technology *shrug*Jun 29 21:16
MinceRthe hypePhone was "invented"?Jun 29 21:16
abeNd-organy new product, heck, any new version/subversion of a product gets that same treatmentJun 29 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] leaving for a day in Rio (Duque de Caxias) momentarily http://fsldc.org/Jun 29 21:17
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abeNd-orgjust look at how people freak out between major versions of kde/gnomeJun 29 21:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well, @inscius ... dream of effective super heroes :)Jun 29 21:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Bumping to the Fresh Prince of Belair theme song.Jun 29 21:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I went to my local library and complained there was no Linux client for online books. The kid at the counter said use wine. #wehavetheyouthJun 29 21:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bugcast plays longer.Jun 29 21:55
formic_abeNd-org: msb_ has a conspiracy theory that explains his usage of kde3Jun 29 21:56
formic_abeNd-org: he thinks microsoft influenced kde4 causing his 20+ virtual desktop setup to become less usefulJun 29 21:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Muy recomendable: http://circodeloshorrores.comJun 29 22:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] UK's 3-Strikes Plan Continues To Grind Through The System; Still Not In Force, Still Awful - http://bit.ly/NdtK26 still a disgrace #deactJun 29 22:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] New European declaration rejects barriers on e-books across territorial borders, platforms, or devices. https://eff.org/r.3aeqJun 29 22:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ebooks shouldn't be restricted by European borders | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 265.78 KBJun 29 22:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1757883Jun 29 22:32
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: The Linux desktop, thanks to Chromebooks, goes retail http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-linux-desktop-thanks-to-chromebooks-goes-retail/11392 #linuxJun 29 22:32
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schestowitz"But,,, Chromebooks run a PROPRIETARY version of Linux..."Jun 29 22:32
schestowitz"anyway nobody purchase this :)"Jun 29 22:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsf/@fsf] Happy 5th Birthday GPLv3! www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/gnu-gplv3-turns-5 !gnu !fsf #gplv3Jun 29 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joshuagay/@joshuagay] RT @fsf Happy 5th Birthday GPLv3! http://ur1.ca/9l7cr !gnu !fsf #gplv3Jun 29 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] USTR Rejects Rep. Issa's Request To Observe #TPP Negotiations - http://bit.ly/MFZvnJ such arroganceJun 29 22:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNU GPLv3 turns 5 — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 29.98 KBJun 29 22:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody USTR Rejects Rep. Issa's Request To Observe #TPP Negotiations - http://bit.ly/MFZvnJ such arroganceJun 29 22:39
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758047Jun 29 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If you are not a terrorist, worry not about drones (unless you live in the 'wrong' country) because only "we" have them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_on_Pakistan_by_the_United_States_of_AmericaJun 29 22:44
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schestowitz""talibanization" o_O"Jun 29 22:45
schestowitz"Awesome, though not much to do with kernels." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1757798Jun 29 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) Alpha 2 Released! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-June/000965.html #ubuntu #gnu #linuxJun 29 22:45
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1751631Jun 29 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Thunderbird 13 Officially Lands in #Ubuntu http://news.softpedia.com/news/Thunderbird-13-Officially-Lands-in-Ubuntu-277256.shtml am sticking with 3.1.11, not trusting #Mozilla updates for #Linux anymore.Jun 29 22:45
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schestowitz"How about sending them and email? Need a contact? I'm in #vancouver and so is the #Thunderbird team."Jun 29 22:45
schestowitzvancouver seems like an awesome city to be in :-)Jun 29 22:46
schestowitz"#kde + #kfaenza + #opencv right on the desktop (java binding too ? #same !) Just the #android part I can't agree with :)" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1758021Jun 29 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Preparing lots of code for upload this week... ![photo: ](http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/android-opencv.png)Jun 29 22:47
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schestowitzthat's all right. I want a Vivaldi.Jun 29 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Support Grows for Open Access to Science Research - http://bit.ly/KIyXPq and how #openaccessJun 29 22:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Governments, publishers & public growing their support for #openaccess http://bit.ly/MGt8nw #oaJun 29 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Support Grows for Open Access to Science Research - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 25.46 KBJun 29 22:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] No Windows. No VMWare. KVM and a little help from Red Hat. All traffic encrypted. What's not to like about Googles Com... http://b1t.it/bG2GJun 29 22:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - No Windows. No VMWare. KVM and a little help from Red Hat.… .::. Size~: 130.22 KBJun 29 22:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] U.S. trade officials reject @DarrellIssa's request to observe #TPP negotiations. We aren't surprised. https://eff.org/r.a8erJun 29 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. denies congressman Issa request to observe trade talks | Reuters .::. Size~: 98.19 KBJun 29 23:00
schestowitzyummy http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.htmlJun 29 23:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android 4.1 for Developers | Android Developers .::. Size~: 37.85 KBJun 29 23:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] eGlide Pro X tablet announced by Ematic: ICS tablet for just $219 http://ur1.ca/9l7h9 #linux #tablet #androidJun 29 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bugcast guest talking about Crivins "Why is a bloke in a pub talking about Linux."Jun 29 23:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: eGlide Pro X tablet announced by Ematic: ICS tablet for just $219AndroidGuys .::. Size~: 49.14 KBJun 29 23:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Linux and Python.Jun 29 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google’s profit on every Nexus 7 #tablet sold: $0 http://ur1.ca/9l7hk #linux #androidJun 29 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nexus 7 sales: Profit for Google on each tablet sold is $0 .::. Size~: 58.23 KBJun 29 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I've a finite capacity for wrestling tech, @tekk ... on deck with netbook and the cats and zero frustration ... tomorrow is another day.Jun 29 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Keep working! You can't be expecting another 9 hours sleep :)Jun 29 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Google Nexus 7 to be sold at Carphone Warehouse in the UK, 16GB for £200 http://ur1.ca/9l7i5 #android #ukJun 29 23:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Nexus 7 to be sold at Carphone Warehouse in the UK, 16GB for £200 | Android Central .::. Size~: 82.1 KBJun 29 23:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lenovo LePhone K860 comes with quad-core Samsung Exynos processor, #Android 4.0 ICS http://ur1.ca/9l7i9 tiny monsterJun 29 23:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lenovo LePhone K860 comes with quad-core Samsung Exynos processor, Android 4.0 ICS » Unwired View .::. Size~: 29.56 KBJun 29 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Amazon prepping two new Kindle Fire tablets with improved build, metal casing http://ur1.ca/9l7ii but pays Microsoft for it. Avoid.Jun 29 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk thanks :)Jun 29 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Chrome=search bar with browser around it. Android=a store with platform around it. Google=surveillance with company around it.Jun 29 23:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kindle Fire 2 Specs, Details: 10-inch, 7-inch Amazon tablets coming .::. Size~: 60.16 KBJun 29 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Like most companies post-9/11 legislation ("Patriot"), Google must give info on people upon request. The solution is simple; dodge US DCs.Jun 29 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As a person in the West, you are better off giving personal info to China (rather than US/UK/etc); the Chinese are less likely to get to youJun 29 23:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzaf identizens.Jun 29 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Chrome=search bar with browser around it. Android=a store with platform around it. Google=surveillance with company arou ...Jun 29 23:30
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95028717Jun 29 23:31
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 29-Jun-12 22:15:56 UTC - Identi.ca: Keep working! You can't be expecting another 9 hours sleep :)Jun 29 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trust CNN. Why? Well, because it's big. http://ur1.ca/9l7klJun 29 23:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CNN's "Dewey Defeats Truman" Moment  | Center for Media and Democracy .::. Size~: 47.44 KBJun 29 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What's New In #Android 4.1 - For Developers? http://ur1.ca/9l7kw #linuxJun 29 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Spent a long time today explaining surveillance effects in 20 years; how TV views viewers:products, not customers. Advertisers are customersJun 29 23:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What's New In Android 4.1 - For Developers? - Muktware .::. Size~: 30.35 KBJun 29 23:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Calligra 2.4.3 Released http://ur1.ca/9l7lg #kde #odfJun 29 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good #writing advice from @larryrusswurm Suspension of Disbelief Important for #Cats and Kids http://ur1.ca/9ktpr !writeJun 29 23:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Calligra 2.4.3 Released - Muktware .::. Size~: 27.88 KBJun 29 23:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Suspension of Disbelief Important for Cats and Kids | The Many Rants of Larry Russwurm .::. Size~: 33.26 KBJun 29 23:39
schestowitzhttp://www.muktware.com/3785/when-will-google-drive-come-linux-love-letter-googleJun 29 23:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: When Will Google Drive Come To Linux? A Love Letter To Google - Muktware .::. Size~: 29.9 KBJun 29 23:40
schestowitz"At the same time I also defend you from the FUD spread by anti-Google or anti-Android lobby."Jun 29 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kororaa 17 Delayed http://ur1.ca/9l7lu #fedoraJun 29 23:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kororaa 17 Delayed .::. Size~: 34.9 KBJun 29 23:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] SCOracle 6.3 is out. Now you can use RHEL and fund lawsuits against Android/Linux at the same time. Excellent!Jun 29 23:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @fsf Tell the EU to kill #ACTA on July 4th -- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/kill-acta !fsf !gnu !lpJun 29 23:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kill ACTA — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software .::. Size~: 27.71 KBJun 29 23:50
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schestowitzjono: have you decided on a name yet?Jun 29 23:51
jonoschestowitz not yet :-)Jun 29 23:52
schestowitzHow about Lin?Jun 29 23:52
jonowe are debating :-)Jun 29 23:52
jonoLin?Jun 29 23:52
schestowitzLin BaconJun 29 23:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] sleep well. @marjoleinkJun 29 23:52
schestowitzGeddit? :-)Jun 29 23:52
jonoI don't get it :-)Jun 29 23:53
schestowitzLinda...Jun 29 23:53
schestowitzLeanJun 29 23:53
schestowitzYou have a special surnameJun 29 23:53
schestowitzYour wife will bring home the Bacon :-)Jun 29 23:54
jonoaha!Jun 29 23:54
jonoI get itJun 29 23:54
jonololJun 29 23:54
schestowitz:-D have a great weekend mateJun 29 23:54
jonoand you mate :-)Jun 29 23:55
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schestowitzI didn't know Jon maddog Hall was gay.. http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-maddog/In-Honor-of-Alan-Turing-A-message-from-the-sponsorJun 29 23:56
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