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schestowitz"pron"Aug 18 00:55
schestowitzNSFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG6-6HD7_HAAug 18 01:07
TechrightsSocialTitle: FEMEN спилили крест в Киеве в поддержку Pussy Riot       - YouTube .::. Size~: 31.57 KBAug 18 01:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1873808Aug 18 01:14
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### The way it should be :( ![putin](https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418489_10151019880228589_541603115_n.jpg) ### The way it is ... :-.... ![pussy](http://www.euronews.com/images_news/img_606X341_2007-pussy-riot-russia.jpg) https://rt.com/news/pussy-riot-trial-896/ #News #Justice #court #Pussy #Riot #Russia #Politics #Democracy #Protest #failAug 18 01:14
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schestowitz"It's so irritating that I can't find words to criticize it. Russia does not have even remote clue and idea about democracy"Aug 18 01:14
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schestowitz"Not many countries do these days."Aug 18 01:15
schestowitz"Of course, but in Russia it's just obvious. They don't even pretend they have good democracy."Aug 18 01:15
qu1j0t3heh trueAug 18 03:20
qu1j0t3but i think the pretence is wearing thin everywhere else by nowAug 18 03:20
qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://twitter.com/#!/longword/status/236641510970515456Aug 18 04:01
TechrightsSocial@longword: RT @ioerror: It seems now documented that the US, Sweden, the UK and Australia are working together to "get" Julian: http://t.co/avDUCyl ...Aug 18 04:01
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: long, but brilliant. http://www.salon.com/2012/08/15/the_sham_terrorism_expert_industry/Aug 18 04:02
TechrightsSocialTitle: The sham “terrorism expert” industry - Salon.com .::. Size~: 127.98 KBAug 18 04:02
qu1j0t3"the court-martial of accused Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan began today, and I asked earlier today on Twitter whether this attack constituted Terrorism given that it targeted a military base and soldiers of a nation at war. My mere asking of this question sparked all sorts of intense outrage from the predictable “natsec” D.C. mavens: Of course it’s Terrorism, as Hasan killed unarmed peopleAug 18 04:10
qu1j0t3including one civilian, exclaimed people who would never, ever dare apply the Terrorism label to the civilian-devastating U.S. attack on Iraq or the use of American drones and cluster bombs to kill innocent civilians by the dozens; that is the discourse of Terrorism: violence by Muslims against a U.S. military base during a time of war qualifies, but violence by the U.S. Government againstAug 18 04:10
qu1j0t3thousands of innocent Muslim civilians never could).Aug 18 04:10
qu1j0t3“most terrorism scholars, politicians and the media don’t seem to ‘know’ that terrorism is most often caused by military intervention overseas, and not religion, radicalization, insanity, ideology, poverty or such like” — even though “the Pentagon has known it for years.” In one article entitled “10 Things More Likely to Kill You Than Terrorism,” he notes that “The chancesAug 18 04:11
qu1j0t3of you dying in a terrorist attack are in the range of 1 in 80,000, or about the same chance of being killed by a meteor,” and that bathtubs, vending machines, and lightning all pose a greater risk of death.Aug 18 04:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875023 "Aug 18 07:09
schestowitzIt's quite hard for religion to beat atheists like Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao and Stalin.Aug 18 07:09
TechrightsSocial@anonymiss@despora.de: ### #Religion has sent more souls into #damnation, as all #plagues, #famines and natural #disasters together ... ![religion](https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/523081_10151016959837129_636854513_n.jpg) #fail #god #believing #warAug 18 07:09
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schestowitzReligion isn't the problem. Nationalism is.Aug 18 07:09
schestowitz"Aug 18 07:09
schestowitzme: Hitler was Roman-Catholic, not an atheist. He evoked "God" a lot. As for Stalin and Pol Pot, their ideology was not at all driven by disbelieve in a God. You're using classic pro-deities lines which are factually invalid.Aug 18 07:11
schestowitz*disbeliefAug 18 07:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1874959Aug 18 07:13
TechrightsSocial@emkamau@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## Stop the extradition of Richard O'Dwyer to the USA #SaveRichard ![img](http://change-production.s3.amazonaws.com/photos/1/eq/ey/fcEqeywACztRCbN-320x240-cropped.jpg) Richard O'Dwyer is a 24 year old #British student at #Sheffield Hallam University in the UK. **He is facing extradition to the USA and up to ten years in prison**, for creating a #website – TVShack.net – which linked (similar to a Aug 18 07:13
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schestowitz"USA behaves ss if they own the world. And slave nations like the UK are willing servants."Aug 18 07:13
schestowitzIs there a place left in the world where the US empire does not extend its authority and does not try to overthrow the govt. by coup detre and invasion?Aug 18 07:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1874906Aug 18 07:15
TechrightsSocial@heavymetalmixer@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s480x480/431503_519909504701778_767863669_n.jpg) #LGBTQ #homo-hatred #bigotry #equalityAug 18 07:15
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875023Aug 18 08:39
TechrightsSocial@anonymiss@despora.de: ### #Religion has sent more souls into #damnation, as all #plagues, #famines and natural #disasters together ... ![religion](https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/523081_10151016959837129_636854513_n.jpg) #fail #god #believing #warAug 18 08:39
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schestowitz"Aug 18 08:39
schestowitzThe things that set us apart the most , and therefore sources of conflict are, in order:Aug 18 08:39
schestowitz   1. Language (root for Nationalism too)Aug 18 08:39
schestowitz   2. RaceAug 18 08:39
schestowitz   3. ReligionAug 18 08:39
schestowitz   4. PoliticsAug 18 08:39
schestowitz"Aug 18 08:39
schestowitzHitler was not even a Christian, in his book Mein Kampf he never mentions Jesus not even once and he talks about religion as a tool to control people, that's why he promoted good relationships with the Church, but he did not care about Christians, he executed Jehova Witnesses that they refused to join the army based on his Christians teachings.Aug 18 08:40
schestowitzWhen he talks about God in Main Kampf he does it in a Destiny sense and actually Darwinism is imprinted all over it.Aug 18 08:40
schestowitz^^ QUOTEAug 18 08:40
schestowitzfalseAug 18 08:40
schestowitzUntrue. Here is a satirical debunking of those common myths http://www.nonstampcollector.com/HitlerTheAtheist/Aug 18 08:41
TechrightsSocialTitle: Hitler - the atheist .::. Size~: 38.32 KBAug 18 08:41
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schestowitzhttp://fossforce.com/2012/08/assange-on-the-run-going-nowhere-for-now/Aug 18 11:31
TechrightsSocialTitle: Assange on the Run: Going Nowhere for Now « FOSS Force .::. Size~: 49.17 KBAug 18 11:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1873882Aug 18 11:49
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Russia Today (RT) attacked by some shady anti-Wikileaks group. Too much pro-Wikieaks coverage in RT? US/BoA-funded anti-WL groups do exist.Aug 18 11:49
schestowitz"Aug 18 11:49
schestowitzMost definitely they do.Aug 18 11:49
schestowitzSome of them are quite advanced and sophisticated and attack anything that doesn't toe the global party line.Aug 18 11:49
schestowitz"Aug 18 11:49
schestowitz"DDoS's seem to be the NSA's new favorite lately. Bounce it through China / Iran to whip up some good publicity and they kill two birds with one stone."Aug 18 11:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1873870Aug 18 12:13
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Economic #fraud and suicide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phEs-XRvEY0 #ukAug 18 12:13
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schestowitz"A lot of hot air and little else, move along please."Aug 18 12:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1872883Aug 18 12:13
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: bus roots ![bus roots](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8i259Too71r2vwz4o1_500.jpg) #publictransport #publicgarden #rooftop #garden #busAug 18 12:13
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schestowitz"A nice way to compensate for that bus' polution"Aug 18 12:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875574Aug 18 12:14
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I know I might get flak for saying it, but "Pussy Riot" are not protesters or feminists; they're simply attention trolls... successful ones.Aug 18 12:14
schestowitz"these "attention trolls", as you call them, are ready to go to jail to protest against the autocratic and corrupted putin . Would you please respect them for this ."Aug 18 12:14
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/#!/GaeMar01/status/236780522158829569 schestowitz Aug 18 12:17
TechrightsSocial@GaeMar01: RT @mediaguardian: Ecuador's Rafael Correa: Assange granted asylum to prevent extradition to a 'third country'  vid http://t.co/BIT4HhdvAug 18 12:17
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1243605--husband-of-jailed-pussy-riot-member-believes-government-using-canadian-ties-to-undermine-groupAug 18 12:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: Husband of jailed Pussy Riot member believes government using Canadian ties to undermine group - thestar.com .::. Size~: 94.72 KBAug 18 12:27
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qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/MorgonFreeman/status/236212081978929152Aug 18 13:03
TechrightsSocial@MorgonFreeman: I hate the word homophobia. It's not a phobia. You are not scared. You are an asshole.Aug 18 13:03
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/mrcolmquinn/status/236472801802985473Aug 18 13:07
TechrightsSocial@mrcolmquinn: Next time you see a staged photo of Putin doing something macho remember he is scared of a non violent group of young women. #pussyriotAug 18 13:07
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/Alisteratwork/statuses/236781996687360001Aug 18 17:06
TechrightsSocial@Alisteratwork: @schestowitz http://t.co/5ICB7r4MAug 18 17:06
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/staffanlandin/statuses/236800788494708737Aug 18 17:06
TechrightsSocial-> Title: The Chart That Scares The "1%" The Most | ZeroHedge .::. Size~: 166.73 KBAug 18 17:06
TechrightsSocial@staffanlandin: @schestowitz what do you want to call them?Aug 18 17:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875574Aug 18 17:07
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I know I might get flak for saying it, but "Pussy Riot" are not protesters or feminists; they're simply attention trolls... successful ones.Aug 18 17:07
schestowitz"regardless, they still deserve the right to express themselves."Aug 18 17:07
qu1j0t3attention trolls?Aug 18 17:32
qu1j0t3lol.......Aug 18 17:32
qu1j0t3http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/08/did-the-bounds-of-cyber-war-just-expand-to-banks-and-neutral-states/261230/ schestowitz Aug 18 17:44
TechrightsSocialTitle: Did the Bounds of Cyber War Just Expand to Banks and Neutral States? - Katherine Maher - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 136.09 KBAug 18 17:44
qu1j0t3let's Streisand effect this motherfucker. https://twitter.com/Tosfm/status/236868098110681088Aug 18 17:53
TechrightsSocial@Tosfm: Pussy Riot, sentenced to two years in a penal colony, release new anti-Putin single - Boing Boing http://t.co/8jEs0W3MAug 18 17:53
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: wow https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/236868248497422336Aug 18 17:54
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: 'confirmed Karl Rove’s role as advisor to Swedish govt in prosecution of Assange on sexual misconduct charges' #wtf?? http://t.co/hrtg2mwyAug 18 17:54
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Eight BIG PROBLEMS with the “case” against Assange (MUST-READ by Naomi Wolf) :: News From Underground .::. Size~: 64.53 KBAug 18 17:54
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schestowitz!google homemade bomb beat high-techAug 18 18:12
TechrightsSocial[1] - Homemade bombs beat high-tech? Afghan war failure looms ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DhK0QEDNyIAYAug 18 18:12
TechrightsSocial[2] - Homemade bombs beat high-tech? Afghan war failure looms | http://www.dogfilm.net/2012/08/homemade-bombs-beat-high-tech-afghan-war-failure-looms/Aug 18 18:12
TechrightsSocial[3] - Google News | http://news.google.com/Aug 18 18:12
TechrightsSocial[4] - Homemade bombs beat high-tech? Afghan war failure ... - Silobreaker | http://www.silobreaker.com/homemade-bombs-beat-hightech-afghan-war-failure-looms-5_2265913860890296320Aug 18 18:12
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/236869646794518529Aug 18 18:15
TechrightsSocial@AJEnglish: Opinion: What's gone wrong at The Guardian? http://t.co/a8YCXJlAAug 18 18:15
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qu1j0t3  "I clearly see that Ryan has a whole lotta “rage” in him: A rage against women, a rage against immigrants, a rage against workers, a rage against gays, a rage against the poor, a rage against the environment. Basically the only thing he’s not raging against is the privileged elite he’s groveling in front of for campaign contributions.Aug 18 18:18
qu1j0t3http://www.salon.com/2012/08/17/rage_against_the_machine_takes_on_ryan/Aug 18 18:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Rage Against the Machine takes on Ryan - Salon.com .::. Size~: 81.72 KBAug 18 18:18
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/ivortossell/status/236874358260375552Aug 18 18:20
TechrightsSocial@ivortossell: Mentioned I'd just jailbroken my iPhone. Apple Store clerk says nothing; slips his hand beneath beech-effect table, presses hidden button.Aug 18 18:20
qu1j0t3http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/why-wall-street-unfriended-facebook/article4487465/Aug 18 18:34
TechrightsSocialTitle: Why Wall Street unfriended Facebook - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 112.6 KBAug 18 18:34
schestowitzlong weekend coming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_holidayAug 18 19:00
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bank holiday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 79.98 KBAug 18 19:00
schestowitzqu1j0t3: great stuff about FBAug 18 19:00
schestowitzit's the next digg/twiter/myspaceAug 18 19:01
schestowitzg plus is going nowhereAug 18 19:01
schestowitzseems like it has exhausted inertiaAug 18 19:01
schestowitzmaybe people will get back to managing their own turfAug 18 19:01
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there are some good quotes in that article.Aug 18 19:01
schestowitzreddit is mostly 4chan-like funny images nowAug 18 19:01
qu1j0t3  "Zynga, the social game maker that went public late last year, saw its share price drop from a high of more than $14 this March to a current price of just $3, as investors realized that many of the company’s users had very fickle tastesAug 18 19:01
schestowitzi added the article, among other you listed, to daily linksAug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3  "no company has illustrated the post-euphoric downturn of the Web and social media industry more starkly than Facebook. Perhaps the most highly anticipated IPO in a decade when it first hit the market at $38 a share, the stock’s plunge has generated nothing but a steady stream of unflattering headlines. In part, the slump is simply a correction of its overheated stock valuation. But aAug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3plummeting stock price always leads to worry about the health of the business itself; in Facebook’s case, those concerns include the company’s seeming inability to penetrate large regional markets such as China, or to generate revenue from users who visit the site using mobile devices.Aug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3  “Just as quickly as a company can accumulate one billion users, it can lose one billion users,” said Andreas Pouros, chief operating officer at Greenlight, a London-based digital marketing agency. “We’ve seen that with MySpace, which journalists used to say had social media sewn up.”Aug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3see...Aug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3i don't completely agree with this negative assessment,Aug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3but thenAug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3I'm not investing actual cash.Aug 18 19:02
qu1j0t3clearly they are jitteryAug 18 19:02
schestowitzor diggAug 18 19:03
schestowitzsame thingAug 18 19:03
schestowitzactive users became inactive en masseAug 18 19:03
schestowitzI had over 3000 followersAug 18 19:03
qu1j0t3:DAug 18 19:03
schestowitzmaybe less than 100 remained activeAug 18 19:03
schestowitzthen the site shut downAug 18 19:03
schestowitzsold to a liquidator in NYCAug 18 19:03
schestowitzmaybe Rupe will buy FB from zuekrberg and call it a dayAug 18 19:04
schestowitznegaytive inertiaAug 18 19:04
schestowitz"my friend is leaving, I guess I too will leave"Aug 18 19:04
schestowitz"nobody reads my wall anyway, what's this gplus thing, I wanna try it"Aug 18 19:04
schestowitznews sites dueAug 18 19:05
schestowitz*dieAug 18 19:05
schestowitzmurdoch sells biasAug 18 19:05
schestowitzit's a profitable mechaniseAug 18 19:05
qu1j0t3schestowitz: but not for $500,000. that was a misleading headline.Aug 18 19:05
schestowitzfb turned into PR firms-manipulated turf warAug 18 19:06
schestowitzlike Max Keiser says, FB has no good business modeAug 18 19:06
schestowitzhe says a company like Coca Cola might as well take over and use it to market more of its beverage junkAug 18 19:06
schestowitzqu1j0t3: they said they had sold core ssetsAug 18 19:07
schestowitzbut it seems like domain onlyAug 18 19:07
schestowitzThey don't reuse the codeAug 18 19:07
schestowitzit's in the trash nowAug 18 19:07
schestowitzthe db tooAug 18 19:07
schestowitzwith a zillion comments and profiles of users, submissions, votes..Aug 18 19:07
*schestowitz watches the latest keiser showAug 18 19:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875023Aug 18 19:09
TechrightsSocial@anonymiss@despora.de: ### #Religion has sent more souls into #damnation, as all #plagues, #famines and natural #disasters together ... ![religion](https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/523081_10151016959837129_636854513_n.jpg) #fail #god #believing #warAug 18 19:09
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schestowitz"Oh! wow nice video @Sybylle, thanks!"Aug 18 19:09
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there were some multimillion sales of bitsAug 18 19:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875023Aug 18 19:09
TechrightsSocial@anonymiss@despora.de: ### #Religion has sent more souls into #damnation, as all #plagues, #famines and natural #disasters together ... ![religion](https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/523081_10151016959837129_636854513_n.jpg) #fail #god #believing #warAug 18 19:09
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schestowitz"Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzI fully reject the premise that religion has caused wars. Wars are motivated by greed, scarcity (both of which go hand in hand), and politics. Religion is a convenient cover. Witch burnings? Crusades? Inquisition? Church-sanctioned violence? Islamist terrorism? All politically-motivated; God/holy scripture is used as a justification for their behavior.Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzReligion is a tool. Like a hammer. A hammer can be used to build a house, where people can live and be together and be safe, or it can be used to cave someone's skull in. People should be encouraged to use it to build houses, not kill each other. But the hammer itself is neither good nor evil. It's used to do good or evil.Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzAtheism makes more rational sense than religion, and I'll freely admit that religious institutions have shamefully stifled progress—think Galileo, stem cell research, women's rights, gay rights, etc.—but I blame the institutions and individuals who used religion to force their political agenda. I don't blame "religion" itself.Aug 18 19:11
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schestowitzabout 2 hours agoAug 18 19:11
schestowitzD CAug 18 19:11
schestowitzThere have been times in history where religious institutions were the purveyors of knowledge and philosophy and reason. Where, the question of God and "what's out there" were taken seriously, and not merely accepted on blind faith. The most profound way to honour God was to learn as much as possible about "His" creation, and to ask the hard questions.Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzThe religious extremism we're seeing these days (fundamentalist evangelical Christianity and others, though I can't speak about them for lack of experience/knowledge) is a fairly recent phenomenon—and again, is politically motivated, not religiously motivated. Modern Evangelical Christianity is what it is, because the stewards of the faith realized the political power they had within their grasp. If you can make a moral Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzcase for "blind faith"—i.e. don't question God's will/calling; just do what the Bible says; avoid skeptical thinking, because that's just the devil trying to confuse you—then you literally have a captive audience. \Aug 18 19:11
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schestowitzabout an hour agoAug 18 19:11
schestowitzD CAug 18 19:11
schestowitzThat's why the Creation/Evolution debate is such a big deal. It's a political struggle for the "souls" of the people. Creationists don't really care about whether they're right or not. They DO want to undermine science and reason and critical thinking, because if those take hold in a person's mind, then you've basically lost that person to independent thought (the horror!!!). Same thing with stem cell research and abortion Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzrights. They're not about morality, they're about control. Now, I'm making a lot of good arguments for why religion is bullshit, but it's actually about independent thinking. I.e. don't let anyone tell you what to think or believe. If the God thing works for you, then great. If you can live happily on reason alone, also great. The stewards of the faith (any faith) need to be better stewards, and the "believers" need to be Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzmore critical/skeptical. But they don't necessarily have to abandon their faith in order to do well in the world.Aug 18 19:11
schestowitzshow moreAug 18 19:11
schestowitzabout an hour agoAug 18 19:11
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:11
qu1j0t3...Aug 18 19:12
qu1j0t3i wouldn;t even btoher.Aug 18 19:12
qu1j0t3bother*Aug 18 19:12
schestowitzi think it's an important subject in the USAug 18 19:12
schestowitzless so in canadaAug 18 19:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1851175Aug 18 19:13
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux and Android FUD  http://techrights.org/2012/08/07/linux-and-android-fud/ #linux #android #fud #fedora #security #malwareAug 18 19:13
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:13
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Linux and Android FUD | Techrights .::. Size~: 88.99 KBAug 18 19:13
schestowitzand here's the list: Aug 18 19:13
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120817151150419Aug 18 19:13
TechrightsSocialTitle: Groklaw - Oracle and Google File Paid Writers Lists ~pj .::. Size~: 85.59 KBAug 18 19:13
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: 'important subject'?Aug 18 19:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: there is no space for serious debate in the US.Aug 18 19:13
qu1j0t3schestowitz: they have to start  over for that to be possibleAug 18 19:13
schestowitz"Pick from what list? His own? Suggestions? It reminds me of Microsoft's Get the Facts website. Remember that? All those "independent" studies?"Aug 18 19:14
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:15
schestowitzTrials like this one are as much about storytelling as lawyering and perhaps more when presenting to a jury -- who tells the better story inside and outside the courtroom. Much of the news reporting and US District Judge Lucy Koh's handling of the case remind me of what I saw during the US antitrust case brought against Microsoft in May 1998. Microsoft couldn't catch much of a break from US District Judge Thomas Penfield Aug 18 19:15
schestowitzJackson. Many rulings from the bench favored the government and more than a few unfavorably Microsoft (I covered the case and sat in the courtroom).Aug 18 19:15
schestowitzInterestingly, the case that unfolded in actual legal filings differed from courtroom dramatics. The paper trail better favored Microsoft's defense than the trial. But the government told the better story, and lead attorney David Boies used the media effectively doing so -- little things like meeting with reporters (Drinks, anyone?) following the day in court. Much of the reporting favored the government's case, and too often Aug 18 19:15
schestowitzignored Microsoft's story.Aug 18 19:15
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:15
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:17
schestowitzAnd Mueller reads Groklaw, I gather. He sent this message:Aug 18 19:17
schestowitzOracle never ever suggested a topic for me to blog about -- nor did anyone close to Oracle, such as its counsel. I repeat, never ever.Aug 18 19:17
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:17
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1873882Aug 18 19:21
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Russia Today (RT) attacked by some shady anti-Wikileaks group. Too much pro-Wikieaks coverage in RT? US/BoA-funded anti-WL groups do exist.Aug 18 19:21
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:21
schestowitzYep.Aug 18 19:21
schestowitzThose look like training runs to me, while serving a purpose.Aug 18 19:21
schestowitzI don't know if they have anyone on board that is capable of teaching much more than that.Aug 18 19:21
schestowitzIt's going to be interesting to watch it all unfold.Aug 18 19:21
schestowitzReality will strike when they finally manage to make the real hackers angry. i.e. the ones that write up IP tables and router firmware.Aug 18 19:21
schestowitzThey'll learn the meaning of cyberwar then.Aug 18 19:21
schestowitz"Aug 18 19:21
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/236882406358020096Aug 18 19:22
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: "Gauss … is an indication of the slippery nature of the rules of engagement for cyberspace"—Errrr cyberattacks are #crime. #koffAug 18 19:22
qu1j0t3schestowitz: 'slippery rules' ... 'nobody can tell us we're wrong exactly'Aug 18 19:22
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/LailaLalami/status/236890852306337792Aug 18 19:23
TechrightsSocial@LailaLalami: What a difference 4 years make. A majority of Democrats support keeping Guantánamo open and approve of drone program: http://t.co/NJSEgQl7Aug 18 19:23
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Poll finds broad support for Obama’s counterterrorism policies - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 200.44 KBAug 18 19:23
qu1j0t3i think they mispelled 'terror'Aug 18 19:25
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/236892477586546689Aug 18 19:29
TechrightsSocial@qu1j0t3: Yes, David Frum is suggesting that Paul Ryan can "learn from Stephen Harper" http://t.co/rUSgMRxr #cdnpoli #StopHarper #DenounceHarper #gopAug 18 19:29
TechrightsSocial-> Title: What Paul Ryan can learn from Stephen Harper | Full Comment | National Post .::. Size~: 84.6 KBAug 18 19:29
qu1j0t3schestowitz: needs moar upvote. http://www.quora.com/Paul-Ryan-Congressman-Vice-Presidential-Nominee/Is-Paul-Ryan-correct-that-Elizabeth-Warrens-argument-There-is-nobody-in-this-country-that-got-rich-on-his-or-her-own-is-the-fatal-conceit-of-liberalism/answer/Lee-BallentineAug 18 19:35
TechrightsSocialTitle: Lee Ballentine's answer to Paul Ryan (Congressman & Vice Presidential Nominee): Is Paul Ryan correct that Elizabeth Warren's argument "There is nobody in this country that got rich on his or her own" is the "fatal conceit of liberalism"? - Quora .::. Size~: 59.95 KBAug 18 19:35
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: maybe we should promote the hashtag #SkipSkypeAug 18 23:33
schestowitzI willAug 18 23:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875141Aug 18 23:47
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### #Religion has sent more souls into #damnation, as all #plagues, #famines and natural #disasters together ... ![religion](https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/523081_10151016959837129_636854513_n.jpg) #fail #god #believing #warAug 18 23:47
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schestowitz"That remembers me a conversation in Castlevania Symphony of the Night: Richter says to Dracula:"You steal man souls and make them your slaves", the Dracula says: "That is the same with all religions"."Aug 18 23:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1873808 "Fair enough. I agree. IT doesn't change anything. Politically Russia sucks - just as many other countries."Aug 18 23:48
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### The way it should be :( ![putin](https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418489_10151019880228589_541603115_n.jpg) ### The way it is ... :-.... ![pussy](http://www.euronews.com/images_news/img_606X341_2007-pussy-riot-russia.jpg) https://rt.com/news/pussy-riot-trial-896/ #News #Justice #court #Pussy #Riot #Russia #Politics #Democracy #Protest #failAug 18 23:48
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TechrightsSocial-> Title: Pussy Riot sentenced to two years in jail — RT .::. Size~: 65.29 KBAug 18 23:48
schestowitz"United Slaves To America" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1875626Aug 18 23:48
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dr. Rafael Correa calls the US 'third country', the US calls his country 'third world country' to discredit its/his judgmentAug 18 23:48
schestowitz!google south africa shooting protestersAug 18 23:50
TechrightsSocial[1] - Auckland protest against South Africa shooting - Story - Politics - 3 ... | http://www.3news.co.nz/Auckland-protest-against-South-Africa-shooting/tabid/1607/articleID/265923/Default.aspxAug 18 23:50
TechrightsSocial[2] - In S. Africa Protest Shooting, An Echo Of The Past? : NPR | http://www.npr.org/2012/08/17/159018040/in-s-africa-protest-shooting-an-echo-of-the-pastAug 18 23:50
TechrightsSocial[3] - South Africa miners strike | Photo Gallery - Yahoo! News | http://news.yahoo.com/photos/south-africa-miners-strike-slideshow/Aug 18 23:50
TechrightsSocial[4] - South Africa shocked by police shootings at mine - CNN.com | http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/17/world/africa/south-africa-mine-violence/index.htmlAug 18 23:50
schestowitz"Aug 18 23:52
schestowitzProtesters have attacked the South African consulate building in Auckland in response to the shooting dead of 34 striking mineworkers.Aug 18 23:52
schestowitzThey used paint bombs to splatter the walls and windows and stuck a letter on the door for South Africa's president Jacob Zuma.Aug 18 23:52
schestowitzThere was little warning of what was to unfold in the genteel suburb of Epsom.Aug 18 23:52
schestowitzRead more: http://www.3news.co.nz/Auckland-protest-against-South-Africa-shooting/tabid/1607/articleID/265923/Default.aspx#ixzz23wPEk8GYAug 18 23:52
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.32 KBAug 18 23:52
schestowitz"Aug 18 23:52
schestowitz"More than 30 people were killed and more than 70 wounded."Aug 18 23:52
schestowitz"It has become the deadliest protest in South Africa since the end of apartheid: 34 people dead and more than 78 wounded after police opened fire yesterday on striking workers at a platinum mine northwest of Johannesburg. "Aug 18 23:52
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meqSjgMKv-IAug 18 23:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: South African police open fire on striking Lonmin miners - Rough Cuts       - YouTube .::. Size~: 30.46 KBAug 18 23:58
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8woy0fdhzoAug 18 23:58
TechrightsSocialTitle: South Africans Shocked by Mine Shooting       - YouTube .::. Size~: 146.96 KBAug 18 23:58

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