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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Simon_Gee @mhausenblas I've found usefulAug 05 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Great slice-of-life #humour by @larryrusswurm "She Wants Those Glasses Off" 05 00:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @hgfernan The secret to staying young is to log in to the a to the mindAug 05 01:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk you think I'm bossy, huh? :DAug 05 01:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk *sigh*Aug 05 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk Hmph.Aug 05 02:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @gimpusers has an update on issue#1 with a preview of the upcoming article: "Behind the Photograph"Aug 05 02:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] That IS satire, right?Aug 05 02:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jewelfox "Congratulations: you’re worse than the Westboro Baptist Church. You just paid for murder." #LGBT #GSRM ...Aug 05 04:38
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DaemonFC DaemonFCAug 05 06:12
DaemonFCYeah, you see those people at Walmart. The woman that is so fat that you wonder how she wipes is my favorite. I bet she can't reach up there and resorts to stuffing toilet paper up her crack instead. Whatever unlucky person that Medicare pays to bathe her once a week is in for a pleasant surprise.Aug 05 06:12
DaemonFCThey always putt around on those electric carts that Walmart has, so that they 90 year olds have to walk around the store.Aug 05 06:12
DaemonFCI call the fat ladies the toilet paper stuffers. You just know that's what they're doing, the act of wiping has to be physically impossible.Aug 05 06:12
DaemonFCToo much fried chiKKKen.Aug 05 06:12
DaemonFC(on the subject of those fat people at ChiKKK Fil A)Aug 05 06:13
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DaemonFC foxnationassholesAug 05 06:23
DaemonFCGuess all the rednecks are eatin chiknAug 05 06:23
DaemonFC DaemonFC Aug 05 06:24
DaemonFC Quick, someone poison it and we can cut the Social Security Disability rolls by 90%!Aug 05 06:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sunday Vote: MP3 Versions in #TechBytes #techrightsAug 05 07:16
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scienteswoah http://عربي.امارات/Aug 05 08:21
scientesin arabic UAE, TLD rights you!Aug 05 08:21
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*Topic for #techrights is: | Channel #techrights for :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovellAug 05 09:33
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:20 2012Aug 05 09:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TechBytes Episode 73: Richard Stallman Endorses the Green Party #obama #privacyAug 05 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] #TechBytes Episode 73: Richard Stallman Endorses the Green Party #obama #privacyAug 05 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Money is debt [IMG] 05 09:43
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schestowitz 05 09:44 #photo #anarchism #bukunin #atheism #godAug 05 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] IETF diskutiert Netz-Standards gegen Zensur - that's good, we need them #censorshipAug 05 10:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pwdr Model 0.1 - "#opensource powder-based rapid prototyping machine" (v @openp2pdesign) #3dprintersAug 05 10:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 1993: EC rubber-stamps #Microsoft monopoly - fascinating background info to terrible decisions (v @sjig)Aug 05 10:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: <font size="2" color="red">How Europe did 20 years of backroom deals with Microsoft</font><br />1993: EC rubber-stamps Microsoft monopoly - Public Sector IT .::. Size~: 67.91 KBAug 05 10:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hard Hitting Video Slams “Political Prostitution” In Movie Piracy Cases - rather well done #odwyer #copyrightAug 05 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Transcribe: An awesome audio-transcription Web app for Chrome - looks usefulAug 05 10:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Keiser Report: Superstition Trading (E323)- YouTube 05 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE to Have Release Soon #suse #linuxAug 05 10:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The “Occupy” & “Tea Party” Agree to Not Steal Copyrights in a “Post-Greed” or “Pro-IP” Era - delusional (v @Beautyon_)Aug 05 10:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Partner #comScore is a Patent Aggressor #swpatsAug 05 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Yes, I was hacked. Hard. - NB: "got in via Apple tech support and some clever social engineering" (v @technollama)Aug 05 11:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] The awesome challenges of parenting life. Yesterday: Assemble the pirate ship. ;) 05 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Corn farmers struggle to cope with rootworm resistance - who could possibly have foreseen this? oh, wait... #monsantoAug 05 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @glynmoody Yes, I was hacked. Hard. - NB: "got in via Apple tech support and some clever social engineering" (v ...Aug 05 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Linex ya no tiene ni web - this looks well fishy (v @sjig) #spain #opensourceAug 05 11:51
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linex ya no tiene ni web .::. Size~: 107.34 KBAug 05 11:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Shadowrun Comes To Linux, MMO Planned - more good news for #gnu/linux #gamersAug 05 11:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How Microsoft Expands the Patent Racket Against Android/Linux #swpats #android #tax #linuxAug 05 12:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Updates: Voice of the Kernel Article and ÜBERG33K Article #Ogg-Vorbis !fsf #geek #freeasingnuAug 05 12:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Altmetrics – Trying to Fill the Gap - promising idea (v @bengoldacre) #metrics #researchAug 05 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As another company aligns with Microsoft (under an NDA) we get to discover how Microsoft is setting up its patent extor 05 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ As another company aligns with Microsoft (under an NDA) we get to discover how Microsoft is setting up its patent extor http://ur1. ...Aug 05 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] When the "IP"-extremists seem to operate with made up numbers all the time, why do people still believe them? And why ... 05 13:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Yay. Malaysia leading 1-0 in gold medal badminton olympics! #inAug 05 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Malaysia vs China badminton finals at Olympics on Starhub 118. #fbAug 05 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Ah! 1-1 my vs cn Badminton finals. Going into 3rd set. Malaysia Boleh!Aug 05 13:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] na Revista @espiritolivre n.37: “O Software era a Lei” sobre Autoritarismo por Software e Acesso à InformaçãoAug 05 14:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Well done China in getting Badminton gold! Malaysia gets silver. Malaysia boleh lagi.Aug 05 14:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US resists control of internet passing to UN agency aka we want the censorship powers to act on behalf of corpsAug 05 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] So, bumbling Boris Johnson is lovable and funny? Well, have I got news for you 05 14:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - US resists control of internet passing to UN agency .::. Size~: 102.91 KBAug 05 14:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: So, bumbling Boris Johnson is lovable and funny? Well, have I got news for you | Sonia Purnell | Comment is free | The Observer .::. Size~: 285.29 KBAug 05 14:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Boris does seem to be using #London2012 as a month long tax payer funded PR photo-op to build his own brandAug 05 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] McAfee sez: "We work with think tanks and universities to make sure our reports are non-biased and as accurate as poss... 05 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Welcome to Britain, a home fit for shysters 05 14:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - McAfee sez: "We work with think tanks and universities to… .::. Size~: 140.18 KBAug 05 14:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Welcome to Britain, a home fit for shysters | Nick Cohen | Comment is free | The Observer .::. Size~: 257.75 KBAug 05 14:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] “If you don’t have a better idea, then you aren’t actually making a point. You’re just bitching.”Aug 05 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] My message to the parents who can't let their children go: grow up 05 15:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: My message to the parents who can't let their children go: grow up | Phillip Hodson | Comment is free | The Observer .::. Size~: 218.17 KBAug 05 15:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Sir Jimmy Savile to be accused of being a paedophile in new documentary now then, now thenAug 05 15:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Leaked MPAA Memo Reveals TV-Shack Press Strategy 05 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Breaking a fight 05 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why Internet Pirates Always Win 05 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Die größte Olympialüge: "Dabeisein ist alles". Schade eigentlich.Aug 05 15:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Shawna Mac 05 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Our terrorists -- New Internationalist #usa #uk #nato #stateterrorism #alqaedaAug 05 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Our terrorists -- New Internationalist #usa #uk #nato #stateterrorism #alqaeda - 05 15:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Apple Uses Koh for Android/Linux Embargo Strategy #apple #koh #android #linux #swpatsAug 05 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Hello world, I have Internet again! I hope all you #foss peeps have been OK in my absence. #HappyHacking! :)Aug 05 16:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Trolls and Their Favourite Weapon, Software Patents, Could Face Death #swpatsAug 05 16:24
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schestowitz 05 16:33 How Microsoft Expands the Patent Racket Against Android/Linux #swpats #android #tax #linuxAug 05 16:33
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schestowitz"the same old strategy from M$, while they seem to have lost the smart-phones market..."Aug 05 16:33
schestowitz 05 16:34 #Keiser Report: Superstition Trading (E323)- YouTube 05 16:34
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schestowitz"nice, also Krugman gets his just deserts"Aug 05 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] First beta for #Debian 7.0's installation media - The H Open: News and Features 05 16:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Shuffle play just decided to throw Temple of Love by Sisters Of Mercy on my stereo. Crankin' up the volume :-) Aug 05 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Git Shortcuts Like You've Never Seen Before | Made by Nathan 05 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] PAC Manager, Perl/Gtk approach to connections managing 'The best linux #SSH / Telnet GUI' #flosstools #networkingAug 05 17:19
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sebsebseb Aug 05 17:26
sebsebseb Aug 05 17:26
sebsebseboh nice my cloak is active :)Aug 05 17:26
sebsebsebaltough it's got a extra s in it which seems to be by mistakeAug 05 17:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt @jacobwb @laurelrusswurm That’s actually a problem with many notifications these days. A notification should NOTIFY. It shou ...Aug 05 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lnxwalt @jacobwb ... come between the user and his/her work. I’ve had them pop up in just the right place to intercept a click. Not ...Aug 05 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @fernandomiguel i want to meet Michelle Jenneke! hell, i want to have her babies!!!Aug 05 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Off to devil a couple dozen eggs ~ fingers crossed the barbeque isn't rained out :oAug 05 17:29
DaemonFC 05 17:30
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DaemonFCI have basic cable just because I'm getting it for freeAug 05 17:30
DaemonFCif it was going to cost me even $10 a month I wouldn't have itAug 05 17:31
*DaemonFC doesn't watch local channels a whole lotAug 05 17:31
schestowitz 05 17:41 Patent Trolls and Their Favourite Weapon, Software Patents, Could Face Death #swpatsAug 05 17:41
schestowitzIf Shield does not actually reduce the cost of being sued, it will not do anything to keep Microsoft from rolling over small companies. That would make the world safe for oligarchy.Aug 05 17:41
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schestowitzIn general, I am disappointed by the EFF's half measures. Software patents are not technically legal and should be eliminated rather than accepted. The nearest analogy I can think of it how the tobacco industry fought anti-smoking legislation by introducing a raft of half laws to oppose, like "no smoking areas" in restaurants.Aug 05 17:41
schestowitzsebsebseb: what's fsfsAug 05 17:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: fsfAug 05 17:41
sebsebsebthey have done it wrong I got a extra sAug 05 17:41
schestowitz"I'm with Will on this one, software patents shouldn't even exist. Especially like they are being used right now with companies buying patents, this has nothing to do with innovation."Aug 05 17:41
sebsebsebschestowitz: I paid for a FSF membership on uhmm Thursday I  think it wasAug 05 17:42
schestowitzsebsebseb:  free software foundation swedenAug 05 17:42
sebsebsebschestowitz: nopeAug 05 17:42
sebsebsebFSF USAAug 05 17:42
sebsebseboh you meant with the s heh heh :dAug 05 17:42
sebsebsebthere's  a FSFE  and a FSF FranceAug 05 17:42
sebsebseb,but not one for only SwedenAug 05 17:42
sebsebsebschestowitz: I also want to buy a load of stuff from the FSF shop, but unforutantly it didn't like my card details every time I treid :(Aug 05 17:43
sebsebsebdid contact them and got some replies, so maybe I can pay in some other way, without the online formAug 05 17:43
DaemonFClolfranceAug 05 17:43
DaemonFCMitt Romney loves it thereAug 05 17:43
DaemonFCespecially when there's a military conscriptionAug 05 17:44
DaemonFCwell, one here anyway ;)Aug 05 17:44
schestowitz"Happiness is not an object but a state. As human beings our measurable attributes are not mere objects like calcium and water; we should definitely not measure our worth by objects we surround ourselves with, e.g. cars. So what we're left with is contentment, empathy, love, pride. It's the highest form of value." -meAug 05 17:44
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sebsebsebschestowitz: it's fixed now :)Aug 05 17:47
sebsebsebgot a network staff to fixAug 05 17:47
sebsebseb,but I guess I got to log out and back in again for the changesAug 05 17:47
sebsebsebto take properly effectAug 05 17:47
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sebsebsebschestowitz: by the way the MP3 format for TechbytesAug 05 17:58
sebsebsebschestowitz: of course Richard Stallman would be anti thatAug 05 17:58
sebsebseband no not listended  to him say about thatAug 05 17:58
sebsebsebalso on the one had OGG and FLAC maybe as well?  would be awesome,  and MP3 whatever,  people want to play as a MP3 can convert into it using Audacity for example anyway I guessAug 05 17:59
sebsebsebI think having a MP3 can be quite convinentAug 05 17:59
sebsebseb,but dropping the format, would be more freesoftware/openstandards likeAug 05 17:59
sebsebsebsince the patents it has or wahteverAug 05 17:59
sebsebseband so on Aug 05 17:59
schestowitz!google break banks or they'll bring chaosAug 05 18:00
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sebsebseband most people downloading Techbytes are probably playing in the OGG format anywayAug 05 18:00
sebsebsebschestowitz: also something I am not keen on is, how you seem to have used the Richard Stallman stuff, to bump the Techbytes numbers, because there haven't been that many episodes recentlyAug 05 18:01
schestowitz[17:58] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: of course Richard Stallman would be anti thatAug 05 18:01
schestowitzso far the polls suggest others feel the same wayAug 05 18:01
schestowitzso I think tomorrow's ep will be ogg/webm-onlyAug 05 18:01
sebsebsebhaving one long Richard Stallman interview would have been good for an episode, but  with sseperate ones you do have the advantage of people coming back for more,  but still waht I just put about version number bumpingAug 05 18:01
schestowitzsaves me server space tooAug 05 18:01
sebsebsebschestowitz: uhmm the first Richard Stallman  episode, I think you only released in OGG?Aug 05 18:02
sebsebsebnot heard them all yetAug 05 18:02
schestowitzsaves me server space tooAug 05 18:02
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schestowitzcrapAug 05 18:02
schestowitz[18:00] <sebsebseb> and most people downloading Techbytes are probably playing in the OGG format anywayAug 05 18:02
schestowitz1:5 ratioAug 05 18:02
schestowitzsebsebseb: there are 6 with RMSAug 05 18:03
sebsebseb1:5 ratio ?Aug 05 18:03
sebsebsebschestowitz: I would have thought the Richard Stalman episodes should have all been done in OGG format reallyAug 05 18:03
sebsebsebsince that's the open standard, and well it's him, his voice etc etc, you know :dAug 05 18:03
sebsebsebhow are you recording with him by the way? Mumble?Aug 05 18:03
sebsebsebthat's something I been  wondering about as well Aug 05 18:04
sebsebsebopen formats only I meant aboveAug 05 18:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] RT @glynmoody 1993: EC rubber-stamps #Microsoft monopoly - fascinating background info to terrible decisions (v @sjig)Aug 05 18:06
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schestowitzwow, DaemonFC, so credit cards were not legal in the 60sAug 05 18:07
schestowitzthey had to pass new legislation for this debt-based farce 'economy'Aug 05 18:07
schestowitzthe banks steal moneyAug 05 18:08
schestowitztaxpayers pay for their scams, stillAug 05 18:08
schestowitzit's all of us who pay the bonuses and make billionaires, they're not "self made" billionairesAug 05 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Pakistani wife in disputed marriage gunned down in court by her brother 05 18:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] A Surprise Package from #Portugal! - YouTube #knivesAug 05 18:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Belgium film on street harassment strikes a chord across Europe 05 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Je kan het nog terug zien op @Gemist Geen Silverlight nodig werkt ook met Flash > Instellingen #gay #gk #gaykrant #lgbtAug 05 18:21
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DaemonFCschestowitz: when a credit card customer defaults, eventually the debt is "written off", then they go and up the rate that other customers pay to borrow moneyAug 05 18:27
DaemonFCso basically, the ones who don't pay their bills screw everyone elseAug 05 18:27
DaemonFCI pay my credit card off every dayAug 05 18:28
DaemonFCwhatever I put on it yesterday gets paid off todayAug 05 18:28
DaemonFCit may seem pointless, but it's notAug 05 18:28
DaemonFCmy card gives me a small discount for using it, so I may as wellAug 05 18:29
DaemonFCit's not a lotAug 05 18:29
DaemonFC$400 in purchases = $5 back from the card company on most stuffAug 05 18:29
DaemonFCbut there's "bonus categories" that rotate in and outAug 05 18:30
DaemonFCso some months I get 5% on gasAug 05 18:30
DaemonFCsome months it is groceriesAug 05 18:30
DaemonFCsome months it is clothesAug 05 18:30
DaemonFCto some extent, you can plan to buy things based on what month you'll get bonus cash or what merchant will give you a bonus discount for shopping thereAug 05 18:31
DaemonFClast month I bought a new pair of shoes for $60, but ended up paying $56.25 back to the card companyAug 05 18:31
DaemonFCit's an incentive to bury yourself in debt, but you "can" pay it back right away and not accumulate any interestAug 05 18:32
DaemonFCso as long as you don't spend money you don't have, you can farm the discountsAug 05 18:32
DaemonFCthis three month block (June, July, August), I get 6.25% back at Kroger, but the pre-discount amount is counted to my store "loyalty card"Aug 05 18:34
DaemonFCso I ended up getting enough points for 10 cents a gallon off my last gas fill up at their store's gas station, and I got 10 minutes on my cell phone too, and ended up getting that for buying $100 worth of groceries, which ended up costing like $93.75 after my credit card discountAug 05 18:35
DaemonFCit's a complicated set of "incentives" they have but you can stack them up and make the money go a little bit further Aug 05 18:36
DaemonFCthe $100 worth of groceries I ended up buying were all loss leader itemsAug 05 18:36
DaemonFCfilled my freezer up with things like those frozen pizzas that go on sale all the timeAug 05 18:37
DaemonFCI eat lots of that kind of stuff anyway :)Aug 05 18:37
DaemonFCso it's just a matter of making my money go a little further than it would if I didn't botherAug 05 18:37
DaemonFCmost people don't, they just go in the store and do their monthly shopping there and end up paying so much markup that they obliterate any savings they accumulatedAug 05 18:38
DaemonFCso as a matter of fact, I am a net loss for Kroger each monthAug 05 18:38
DaemonFCthey know that every once in a while, someone like me will come along and just farm their sales and points systems and discounts and so on, and lose them a little money, but they're looking at the bigger pictureAug 05 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Lightweight #EDC Knife: Kershaw Echelon - YouTube #knivesAug 05 18:39
DaemonFCfor every person that does that, there's probably 100 that don't even botherAug 05 18:39
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abeNd-orgbuying unhealthy food? nice!Aug 05 18:40
DaemonFCI wouldn't say that it's terribly unhealthyAug 05 18:40
abeNd-orgI wouldAug 05 18:40
DaemonFChow unhealthy could a spinach, mushroom, and feta cheese rising crust pizza be?Aug 05 18:41
abeNd-orgingredients list, types of fats, high amount of sugar, etcAug 05 18:41
abeNd-orgit sounds good, but it is pure crapAug 05 18:41
DaemonFCfast food pizza is probably even worse for youAug 05 18:42
DaemonFCthe last time I ordered one of those, I ended up making them take it backAug 05 18:42
DaemonFCit got out here burned, cold, and with what looked like a layer of grease on itAug 05 18:42
DaemonFCjust sitting there on top of the pizza :PAug 05 18:42
DaemonFCthat was Papa JohnsAug 05 18:43
DaemonFChaven't ordered a pizza from them since then, and that was like 5 years agoAug 05 18:43
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DaemonFC"and there are no signs that satellite broadband will ever catch up to cable or fiber. "Aug 05 18:44
DaemonFCyeah, high latency, slow speeds, and most of them charge about double what cable internet costs and put in a rotating 24-hour cap of 250 MBAug 05 18:45
abeNd-orgi still can't get anything good out hereAug 05 18:45
abeNd-org1.5 dsl ends up being more like 768 in realityAug 05 18:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Does Cybercrime Really Cost $1 Trillion? | Threat Level | #cyberwar #fearmongering #mafiaa #mic #ipatriotAug 05 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I already 3 out of these » 5 !Linux Top Free Painting Tools « But 2 discoveries to try is still OKAug 05 18:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] having a title field in comments helps #spammers identify themselves making them easier to filter outAug 05 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] no, seems not; idea is interesting - let's hope someone does a free version for FirefoxAug 05 19:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Reuters suffers second hack, as Twitter account posts pro-Syrian government messages 05 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Leaked MPAA Memo Reveals TV-Shack Press Strategy - #MPAA are such greedy, cynical scumbags #odwyerAug 05 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @mattmiszewski: $17 million in federal funding to jump start health information exchange 05 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - Ranting Andy on 'Gold as Money' and What to Do Now to Protect Yourself Before It's Too Late #collapseAug 05 19:54
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DaemonFCevery recession that hits, you get people wanting to go back to the gold standardAug 05 19:59
DaemonFCI'm not even sure what to think about thatAug 05 19:59
MinceRi wonder whyAug 05 19:59
MinceRi just wonder if there's enough gold to do thatAug 05 20:00
DaemonFCMinceR: There's ups and downs to both systemsAug 05 20:00
DaemonFCand you just mentioned the biggest down of the gold standardAug 05 20:00
DaemonFCMinceR: I'd be in favor of shutting down the Federal Reserve and transferring its authority to the US TreasuryAug 05 20:00
DaemonFCthe money would still be backed by "essentially nothing", but the government wouldn't have any interest payments to make on any of itAug 05 20:01
DaemonFCa lot of countries with a central bank have it as an official government institution, the US has it set up as a private bank that answers to nobody and doesn't have to explain its decisionsAug 05 20:02
DaemonFCthere's no accountability, noneAug 05 20:02
DaemonFCthat's a huge problem, and Ron Paul talks about that one quite a bitAug 05 20:03
MinceRi knowAug 05 20:03
abeNd-orgeveryone considers ron paul the crazy uncleAug 05 20:03
DaemonFCbut the interest rate on the "money supply" is an even larger oneAug 05 20:03
DaemonFCabeNd-org: I'd vote for himAug 05 20:03
abeNd-orgprobably because he is right, but not enough people support him & can put him into powerAug 05 20:03
DaemonFCI'm only an Obama supporter for pragmatic reasonsAug 05 20:03
DaemonFCthere's only two candidates that can win the election, and Romney is worseAug 05 20:04
abeNd-organd i bet he would be marked as racist & ran out of power if he ever did somehow get into powerAug 05 20:04
abeNd-orgsome photoshop magic with him wearing a white hoodAug 05 20:04
DaemonFCif we scuttle the Affordable Care Act, we can go back to the system we had, which was even worseAug 05 20:05
DaemonFCmy mom called me the other day to see if I knew why her health insurance company sent her a check in the mailAug 05 20:05
DaemonFCI told her that the Affordable Care Act says that if a group plan doesn't pay out at least 80% of what it takes in each year in medical expenses, it has to send you what's left as a rebate instead of giving it out as CEO bonus moneyAug 05 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jakarta is world’s top #Twitter city; other Asia-Pacific nations make strong showing - gosh, who knew? #idAug 05 20:06
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DaemonFCnow, whether or not 80% is reasonable? I don't think it is, but it beats the system we had before where there was no minimum amount that they could spend on medical careAug 05 20:06
DaemonFCand if they fucked over more people, the CEO got a bigger bonus at the end of the yearAug 05 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @lucky A dist-upgrade wants to celebrate this rare downpour by dancing naked in the a ..Aug 05 20:08
abeNd-orgim all for real universal care, that is *actually* accessible (no uber long waits that you might as well just die before you are seen)Aug 05 20:08
DaemonFCyes, I am toAug 05 20:08
DaemonFC*tooAug 05 20:08
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DaemonFCstill, the ACA is a net improvement over what we hadAug 05 20:09
DaemonFCI'm surprised there was as much real reform as there was in itAug 05 20:09
abeNd-orgwhen will we see it actually benefit the masses?Aug 05 20:09
DaemonFC2014 is when the biggest pieces of it kick inAug 05 20:09
DaemonFCsome of it is in effect now, like the 80% minimum ruleAug 05 20:09
DaemonFCand health insurance has to let you keep your children on your plan until they're 26Aug 05 20:10
DaemonFCand a chunk of it just kicked in two days ago where they have to give you free physicals and cancer screenings once a year with no co-payAug 05 20:10
abeNd-orgah, thats ok, the world ends this dec ;)Aug 05 20:11
DaemonFCIf Romney gets in, it will end as soon as he manages to unravel all the gains that the working poor made in the ACAAug 05 20:11
DaemonFCI'm sure he'll also find a way to give out waivers to Dodd-Frank and the Credit CARD ActAug 05 20:12
DaemonFCI mean, for a lot of people not having health insurance literally is the end of the worldAug 05 20:12
DaemonFCthe United States has something like 60,000 people die every year because they have no health coverage, the coverage they have fucks them over, etc.?Aug 05 20:13
DaemonFCand these people are always poor/middle classAug 05 20:13
DaemonFCthe kind of people that big bankster billionaires don't care about at allAug 05 20:13
abeNd-orgyes, that is part of itAug 05 20:14
abeNd-orgthe other part goes back to taking care of yourself, stop stuffing your face with bigmacs & sodasAug 05 20:14
abeNd-orga yearly physical isnt going to do you any good if you make a bluewhale look small.......Aug 05 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] This Week in Media, from #NBCFail to YouTube’s real news 05 20:14
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abeNd-org"yep, you are obese...still...just like the last 3 yrs..., see you next yr (if you live that long)"Aug 05 20:15
abeNd-orgsurely the govt needs to do its part, but so do the people with their own bodiesAug 05 20:15
abeNd-orgim all for helping cover health insurance, but why should my $s go to cover fatty mc fat fat over there when I am keeping myself healthy?Aug 05 20:16
DaemonFCthe obesity problem has many elementsAug 05 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] evenAug 05 20:16
abeNd-orgyes, food, food, food & more foodAug 05 20:16
abeNd-orgmany elementsAug 05 20:16
DaemonFCsome are a matter of personal responsibilityAug 05 20:16
DaemonFCothers are dirty tricksAug 05 20:16
abeNd-org?Aug 05 20:17
abeNd-orgdirty tricks? this should be amusingAug 05 20:17
DaemonFCif you had a banana nut muffin and a coffee for breakfast, a lot of people don't even stop to look at calories and number of servings in that muffinAug 05 20:17
abeNd-orgall it takes is a little bit of time to read the labels Aug 05 20:17
abeNd-orgthat isnt dirty tricks, that is still personal responsibilityAug 05 20:17
DaemonFCtruth is, it's so loaded down with high fructose corn syrup and other crap, that this muffin is deceptively high in caloriesAug 05 20:17
abeNd-orgyea, thats fatty not reading & not eating healthyAug 05 20:18
DaemonFCone muffin, two servings @ 250 calories = 500 calories Aug 05 20:18
DaemonFCand that's really just a snack on your way out the doorAug 05 20:18
MinceRi think arbitrary "serving" sizes are indeed dirty tricksAug 05 20:18
abeNd-orgthat still falls under personal responsibility, not dirty tricksAug 05 20:18
MinceRthey're trying to mislead the customerAug 05 20:18
abeNd-orgmincer you choose what to put in your mouth, that is not a dirty trickAug 05 20:19
DaemonFCMinceR: I think that they should have to print the number of calories in the entire thing as the first line itemAug 05 20:19
DaemonFCthen break it into serving sizes if they wantAug 05 20:19
MinceRi agree with DaemonFC Aug 05 20:19
DaemonFCI would argue that, once the facts are made clear, then it's a matter of personal responsibilityAug 05 20:20
abeNd-orgif it says 2 serving sizes for that softball sized muffin, then multiply what it says by 2Aug 05 20:20
DaemonFCyou can't expect an ignorant person to have personal responsibilityAug 05 20:20
abeNd-orgyou shouldnt be eating a softball sized muffin in one sitting, id say that is fairly a two serving itemAug 05 20:20
DaemonFCand having to stop and think about how serving sizes and calories and number of servings in a muffin ads up is ludicrousAug 05 20:20
DaemonFCyou should see "One muffin, 500 calories, 25% of a 2,000 calorie diet"Aug 05 20:21
DaemonFCthen you decide what's for breakfastAug 05 20:21
DaemonFCI think the obesity problem would go down if they had to do thatAug 05 20:21
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: yes, I do, letting them off scott free with no responsibility is part of the problem in the first placeAug 05 20:21
DaemonFCsome people will choose to sit and eat 10 muffins anywayAug 05 20:22
DaemonFCoh well, they were informedAug 05 20:22
DaemonFCif they get fat and start getting sick because of it, then let them pay their own medical costs over thatAug 05 20:22
DaemonFCsame thing with smokersAug 05 20:22
MinceRyes, and if they decide it's 2.333... servings then you'll just keep cutting the muffins foreverAug 05 20:22
DaemonFCthey print the warning label, you read it, some people smoke anywayAug 05 20:22
abeNd-orgI could go for amended legislation, if you are % over your optimal weight, you pay % out of pocketAug 05 20:23
DaemonFCinformed personal responsibilityAug 05 20:23
abeNd-orgNO REASON I should be paying for fatty's medical bills!!!!Aug 05 20:23
DaemonFCnot all of them anywayAug 05 20:23
DaemonFCeach person should have a share that is paid by the plan based on actuarial tables that assume they weigh the proper amountAug 05 20:23
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: "informed personal responsibility" read the labels that already exist, choose what you shove into your pie hole, etcAug 05 20:24
DaemonFCand if they have more costs than that because of their obesity, let them pay the excess amountAug 05 20:24
MinceRthere's no reason you should be paying for anyone else's medical billsAug 05 20:24
abeNd-orgget off your fat ass & actually work out a few times a weekAug 05 20:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Thousands of fish die as Midwest streams heat up - no apocalypse to see here, move along please... #climatechangeAug 05 20:24
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DaemonFCMinceR: I think that if a person looks and sees that they're getting hammered with out of pocket medical costs because of their weight, they might decide to just back away from the cheesecakeAug 05 20:25
DaemonFCand if they can pay the excess amount, then I don't see a problem with that, eitherAug 05 20:25
MinceRi think it should be their problem either wayAug 05 20:25
DaemonFCthey shouldn't be able to offset their own costs for being overweight or smoking to a person that isn't overweight who doesn't smokeAug 05 20:25
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: no, they wont, they are fat because of "external reasons", they have no personal responsibility & no self control, so it is someone else's fault they are fatAug 05 20:25
MinceRif they're adults, they should make their own decisions and suffer the consequencesAug 05 20:25
abeNd-orgthat is why they sue fast food resturantsAug 05 20:25
DaemonFCfast food isn't the problemAug 05 20:26
DaemonFCnot the problem at allAug 05 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Desktop Android? Multi-user #Android support is on its way - hmm, interestingAug 05 20:26
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: yes, but there are plenty of fatty lawsuits against fast foodAug 05 20:26
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DaemonFCpeople who eat an enormous amount of fast food over a period of time and become fat did it to themselvesAug 05 20:26
DaemonFCthat guy that did Super Size Me should be shotAug 05 20:26
DaemonFCif I want a super size fries, then that's my businessAug 05 20:27
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: yes, & here we arrive back at personal responsibility againAug 05 20:27
DaemonFCif I want to count it into my diet and compensate for it somewhere else, I'm an adultAug 05 20:27
DaemonFCit is my decisionAug 05 20:27
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: over the years everyone has shed it, all problems are caused by someone else, and not their responsibility to addressAug 05 20:27
abeNd-org"you made me fat, I didnt"Aug 05 20:27
DaemonFCoh bullshitAug 05 20:27
DaemonFCyou eat too much, you get fatAug 05 20:27
DaemonFCMcDonalds didn't make you go thereAug 05 20:28
DaemonFCthey didn't make you order what you orderedAug 05 20:28
DaemonFCthey didn't shove it down your throatAug 05 20:28
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: talk to most fat people, "you" (as in external forces, not themselves) are the reason they are fat, not them, they are helplessAug 05 20:28
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: you & i know it, but most fat people don'tAug 05 20:28
abeNd-orgthus they keep getting fatterAug 05 20:28
DaemonFCI do think that McDonalds should have to print calories on the boxAug 05 20:28
DaemonFCthat's a good ideaAug 05 20:28
abeNd-orgthey wont take personal responsibilityAug 05 20:28
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: heh, now you assume literacy rates :PAug 05 20:29
DaemonFCif I want to eat a super size fries, knowing that they have 750 calories (the amount they did when they had super size fries), then I am making an informed choiceAug 05 20:29
DaemonFCit costs McDonalds nothing to print that on the box of friesAug 05 20:29
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abeNd-orghow could you not know in the early 90s that a giant freaking box of greasy fries wasnt healthy?Aug 05 20:30
abeNd-orgreally?Aug 05 20:30
abeNd-orgblame someone else for it at that?Aug 05 20:30
abeNd-orgsure, if you want to splurge every once in awhile, but to have that daily? hehAug 05 20:30
DaemonFCwell, they used to make it really hard to know what their calories wereAug 05 20:32
DaemonFCyou had to specifically request a "nutrition facts" pamphletAug 05 20:32
DaemonFCand there were "dieting" books that you could buy that compiled everything into a bookAug 05 20:32
DaemonFCmaking it hard to figure out what you're eating is not going to help the obesity problem at allAug 05 20:33
DaemonFCit'll help it get a little worse maybe, when people have to do more guessworkAug 05 20:33
DaemonFCI go back to my argument that people should not have to guess what they're eating or multiply calories x arbitrary serving sizesAug 05 20:34
DaemonFCit should just be widely known that a box of large fries at McDonalds has 500 calories because that's what they printed on the boxAug 05 20:34
DaemonFCit's right thereAug 05 20:34
DaemonFClike the surgeon general's warning on cigarette boxesAug 05 20:34
DaemonFCweight management is a little trickier than it might sound just because you're talking about a surplus or deficit of just 50 calories a day and a spread of about 10 pounds either way over the course of a yearAug 05 20:35
DaemonFCso it can sneak its way onAug 05 20:35
DaemonFCa person who is 10-15 pounds over or under, that's arguable whose fault that is exactlyAug 05 20:36
DaemonFCwhen you see those toilet paper stuffer ladies with the thunder thighs and the gigantic asses at Walmart, THEIR FAULT!Aug 05 20:36
DaemonFCALL THEIR FAULT!Aug 05 20:36
DaemonFCdon't even want to hear otherwiseAug 05 20:37
DaemonFCMcDonalds has ZERO BLAME for a person who is 100, 200, 300, etc pounds overweightAug 05 20:37
DaemonFCyou know that person is just shoveling shit into their mouth as fast as they can chew and swallow itAug 05 20:37
DaemonFCit's also debatable, to an extent, what a person's ideal weight isAug 05 20:38
DaemonFCthere's several conflicting definitionsAug 05 20:38
DaemonFCso you have maybe a 20 pound window depending on who you ask, in my case anywayAug 05 20:39
DaemonFCthe CDC says I should weigh about 185 pounds, but the Mayo Clinic says that I should weight about 202Aug 05 20:39
DaemonFCI've seen some sources that say 206Aug 05 20:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - VIDEO: #RandPaul in Reporter Controversy 05 20:39
DaemonFCand one that even says 212Aug 05 20:39
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DaemonFCpersonally, I think the correct weight for me is 190-195, somewhere around thereAug 05 20:40
DaemonFCbut thanks to the CDC, every time I go to my doctor, he says "You need to lose about 10 pounds"Aug 05 20:40
DaemonFCI've actually gotten into an argument with him before where I said "No I don't"Aug 05 20:40
DaemonFCI don't really care what the number on a scale says, precisely, I "feel" fine and I "look" fine at 195Aug 05 20:42
DaemonFCwhy does the CDC say I'm overweight?Aug 05 20:42
DaemonFCyou know, Mayo Clinic says I'm a few pounds underAug 05 20:42
DaemonFCit's all very frustrating and I think that's another problemAug 05 20:43
DaemonFCgovernment definitions of who is overweightAug 05 20:43
DaemonFCit's just another form of controlAug 05 20:43
DaemonFCeveryone has to weight the government approved amount, regardless of what they thinkAug 05 20:43
DaemonFCMinceR: Am I right? :)Aug 05 20:43
DaemonFCI liked that episode of King of the Hill where Bill sees that his potato chips are "trans fat free" and starts chowing down on themAug 05 20:44
DaemonFCputs on like 50 pounds, swears he's OK because the government approved his potato chipsAug 05 20:44
DaemonFCanyone who knows how the government really works knows not to believe anything they say without independently verifying itAug 05 20:45
DaemonFCevery government program gets so loaded down with bureaucracy that it barely functions at all without like 20 times the amount of cash being burned on it that it should need to operateAug 05 20:46
DaemonFChmmm, yard signs for political candidates..... hehAug 05 20:48
DaemonFCthose are never a great ideaAug 05 20:48
DaemonFCcauses trouble with neighborsAug 05 20:48
DaemonFCpeople vandalize them or steal themAug 05 20:48
DaemonFCI'm not real big on buttons either, they poke holes in your clothesAug 05 20:49
DaemonFCa few trips through the washer, the holes keep getting biggerAug 05 20:49
abeNd-orgfat people are their own fault, that we can all agree upon. so - how to actually fix it? mandatory liposuction? then (pardon the pun) heavy fees for going overweightAug 05 20:49
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abeNd-orgDaemonFC: magnets to the backAug 05 20:50
DaemonFCI'm not sure that I want to put a magnet on my car eitherAug 05 20:50
abeNd-orgfor the political pins on your shirtAug 05 20:50
DaemonFCit's like almost 20 years old and has a few "cosmetic" problemsAug 05 20:50
DaemonFClike a broken rear bumperAug 05 20:50
abeNd-orgheh, road legal at least? :)Aug 05 20:51
DaemonFCprobably not a great advertisementAug 05 20:51
DaemonFCyeahAug 05 20:51
DaemonFCit's hanging in thereAug 05 20:51
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: put the opposition on there instead!Aug 05 20:51
DaemonFCruns fineAug 05 20:51
DaemonFCLOL!!!!!Aug 05 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mahmood from with 69 dents!Aug 05 20:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - Failure of #Facebook ... and We Are Not Surprised #facebrokeAug 05 20:51
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DaemonFCVote Republican, they'll do this to you!Aug 05 20:51
DaemonFCI like itAug 05 20:51
abeNd-orgredneck the hell out of it & put pro-obama stickers all over itAug 05 20:51
DaemonFCsneakyAug 05 20:51
DaemonFCabeNd-org: I'm actually doing a bit better under Obama's tax planAug 05 20:52
DaemonFCwhen Bush passed his tax cut, the obscenely rich got most of itAug 05 20:52
abeNd-orgor confuse people, the right side of the car pro democrat & the left side pro republican Aug 05 20:52
DaemonFCI ended up seeing like another $150 a year or somethingAug 05 20:52
DaemonFCObama's tax cut cut my tax bill by at least twice thatAug 05 20:53
abeNd-orgi didnt see squat under either *shrug*Aug 05 20:53
DaemonFCwell, any tax cut is welcome of courseAug 05 20:53
DaemonFCit's a shame that they don't cut spending tooAug 05 20:53
DaemonFCit makes the tax cut unsustainable Aug 05 20:54
DaemonFCso enjoy it while you canAug 05 20:54
abeNd-orgwere so far down the tubes it would take someone quite a lot to fix it, who that someone is i dont know, but its not obama or mitt, both are just going to plunge us head first further down the hole, where only the wealthy surviveAug 05 20:54
DaemonFCthe only tax cuts that generate much activity for the economy are to people who make under $100,000 a yearAug 05 20:54
DaemonFCthat's just provenAug 05 20:55
DaemonFCpeople who spend most of the money they makeAug 05 20:55
DaemonFCI don't think anyone making less than $100,000 a year should pay any taxes, honestlyAug 05 20:55
abeNd-orgi dont make any money to spendAug 05 20:55
DaemonFCI think it should be a burden on people who can afford to pay itAug 05 20:55
abeNd-orgat least beyond gas, oil changes, tires, & other car maintAug 05 20:56
DaemonFCgasoline shouldn't be taxedAug 05 20:56
DaemonFCneither should diesel fuelAug 05 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] dear !lazyweb !debian !aptosid - is there an LCD test application in the repos? can't find one...Aug 05 20:56
DaemonFCluxuries should be taxed like crazyAug 05 20:56
DaemonFCfuel isn't a luxuryAug 05 20:57
DaemonFCclothing is not a luxuryAug 05 20:57
DaemonFC(to an extent!)Aug 05 20:57
DaemonFCI mean, they should definitely tax some categories of clothingAug 05 20:57
DaemonFClike jeans that cost more than $50 a pair, should be classified as a luxury itemAug 05 20:57
DaemonFCbecause they are a luxury itemAug 05 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @lilbernie Loving his first Bacalhau à Brás... Cc @hookAug 05 20:58
abeNd-orgwhat is a luxury to you is a necessity to othersAug 05 20:58
DaemonFCyou can get a good solid pair of jeans that will last you for years for less than $30Aug 05 20:58
DaemonFCso much more than that makes them a luxury itemAug 05 20:58
DaemonFCso under my plan, jeans that cost more than $50 are subject to a luxury taxAug 05 20:58
DaemonFCbottled water would be a luxury grocery item under my tax planAug 05 20:59
DaemonFCabeNd-org: Hitting things that people don't really need with a high tax would only end up affecting the people that chose to have things they don't needAug 05 21:00
DaemonFCit's pretty simple reallyAug 05 21:00
DaemonFCif you're spending $250 on a pair of jeans, you can afford my 25% luxury tax on them :)Aug 05 21:01
DaemonFCif you buy a $100 pair of sunglasses, you can spend $25 on the taxAug 05 21:01
DaemonFCthe way we have the sales tax set up now, you have to pay 7% (in Indiana anyway) on toilet paper and a pack of underwear or socksAug 05 21:02
DaemonFCI mean, that's ridiculousAug 05 21:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Daily Bell - The Neoconservative War #Criminals in Our Midst #usa #stateterrorismAug 05 21:03
DaemonFCa poor person that is barely making ends meet shouldn't get hit with a flat sales tax for buying socks and underwear at WalmartAug 05 21:03
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abeNd-orgDaemonFC: what of folks with water supplied by the city that isnt all that great, smells bad, tastes bad, not good for drinking? they use bottled waterAug 05 21:03
DaemonFCthere are people paying $100 for pairs of silk underwearAug 05 21:03
DaemonFCthey can afford to be taxed a bit moreAug 05 21:03
MinceRabeNd-org: they might get away with a water filterAug 05 21:03
DaemonFCabeNd-org: install a treatment systemAug 05 21:03
DaemonFCyeah, I just use a carbon filterAug 05 21:04
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DaemonFCmy water isn't unsafe to drink, it just tastes badAug 05 21:04
DaemonFC:PAug 05 21:04
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: not everyone can afford a *good* treatment, those little britta water pitchers are jokesAug 05 21:04
abeNd-orgim talking about a 2-3 stage $250 RO type unitAug 05 21:05
DaemonFCFiltrete has a system you can install under your sinkAug 05 21:05
DaemonFCeach filter is good for something like 2,500 gallonsAug 05 21:05
DaemonFCit only filters the cold water lineAug 05 21:05
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: most apt complexes wont let you make such a modificationAug 05 21:05
DaemonFCand it has a bypassAug 05 21:05
DaemonFCso you don't have to filter your dish water Aug 05 21:05
DaemonFCit's a very simple installationAug 05 21:05
DaemonFClike five minutesAug 05 21:06
abeNd-organd they couldnt afford it, so the govt would have to provide it for everyone, & installation servicesAug 05 21:06
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: sure, thats great, but not if the apartment complex doesnt allow itAug 05 21:06
DaemonFCI'm considering installing oneAug 05 21:06
DaemonFCI don't really care if my landlord would approve of itAug 05 21:06
MinceRbrita works for meAug 05 21:07
DaemonFCif I break something, he can just take it out of my deposit, that's what it's forAug 05 21:07
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: & the landlord could throw you out or fine you heavily Aug 05 21:07
DaemonFCnahAug 05 21:07
DaemonFCI know him too wellAug 05 21:07
DaemonFCI've been renting off him for 6 years now almostAug 05 21:07
DaemonFChe likes meAug 05 21:07
DaemonFCI pay him on time every time, I keep the place cleanAug 05 21:08
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: oh yeah he would, doesnt matter your personal relationship, & what of those people who dont have personal relationships? are you encouraging them to break their lease?Aug 05 21:08
DaemonFCI call him if there's something that needs fixedAug 05 21:08
DaemonFCmeh, I have yet to live anywhere where the water is so bad, a pitcher filter can't deal with itAug 05 21:09
DaemonFCand those are not expensive and don't require any plumbing modsAug 05 21:09
DaemonFCthe under sink thing is strictly a convenienceAug 05 21:09
abeNd-orgthere are plenty of people who do, & a luxury tax on bottled water would be a kick in the pantsAug 05 21:09
DaemonFCdon't have to constantly refill a pitcherAug 05 21:09
DaemonFCabeNd-org: So we exempt the stuff from the vending machine at the supermarketAug 05 21:10
DaemonFCmake it tax freeAug 05 21:10
DaemonFCproblem solvedAug 05 21:10
DaemonFCit's much cheaper and much more environmentally friendlyAug 05 21:10
DaemonFCit just treats the water coming in from the city lineAug 05 21:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] (2/2) Heb dat ding ooit eens via een of andere louche website "Unlocked" Nu AltiTalk SIM er in, tablet reboot en draaien als 'n zonnetje ;-)Aug 05 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Wie niet rijk is, moet gewoon hacken en klooien, kom je al een heel end mee \o/Aug 05 21:13
abeNd-orgtime to go workoutAug 05 21:14
DaemonFCI think that people should just find a way to treat the tap water instead of paying a company to suck out millions of gallons of groundwater from a central location, put it all in "disposable" plastic bottles, and burn diesel sending it all over the countryAug 05 21:14
DaemonFCit's just so horrible for the environmentAug 05 21:14
abeNd-orgim not in the best shape, but im no fatty, & im finally playing the personal responsibility card with my own healthAug 05 21:14
abeNd-orgwork is pissed at me, but 60+hrs a week isnt enough? fuck themAug 05 21:15
DaemonFCthose supermarket systems cost about a third of what the bottled stuff does and I'd say it's even better qualityAug 05 21:15
abeNd-orgwork would rather see me die at my desk then take time to go work outAug 05 21:15
DaemonFCROW! ROW! ROW!Aug 05 21:23
DaemonFCMay I please have a vacation day?Aug 05 21:23
DaemonFCNO!!!!Aug 05 21:23
DaemonFCNow get back to the pit before we fire you....Aug 05 21:23
DaemonFCB-)Aug 05 21:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @rysiek not specific for LCD, but you can try screentestAug 05 21:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #London2012 must be rigged, if #LOCOG know in advance of any event that this yrs team is #OurGreatestTeamAug 05 21:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it'd have been hilarious if "our greatest (apparently) team" got an embarrassingly low medal count on home turf #London2012Aug 05 21:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @hgfernan Subscribe to get compensated for an asbestos related diseaseAug 05 21:56
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DaemonFCKDE 4.9 is available as a backport to Kubuntu 12.04 LTSAug 05 22:05
DaemonFCthe packages are unofficial and are not officially supported for the life of the LTSAug 05 22:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] RT @x11r5 @thelovebug if you not at home and on with kde4. I was quite a lot. Wow! I'm amazed!Aug 05 22:09
DaemonFC 05 22:10
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DaemonFCI don't blame Dave Airlie for disclosing thisAug 05 22:10
DaemonFCNvidia had a couple of months to fix it after it was privately disclosed to them, and they didn't botherAug 05 22:11
DaemonFCsometimes public shaming is the only thing left to doAug 05 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @jankusanagi thanks! just what I was looking for.Aug 05 22:16
DaemonFCmeh, what the hellAug 05 22:17
*DaemonFC adds the backports ppa and goes for KDE 4.9Aug 05 22:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Woz: The #cloud is a nightmare | Technically Incorrect - CNET News 05 22:34
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MinceRi wonder why anyone still listens to wozo the clownAug 05 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @ioerror: I am so excited for @MarsCuriosity landing tonight. I was reminded that it's a 0.9t nuclear powered rover. The future is here.Aug 05 22:54
DaemonFC 05 22:54
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DaemonFC"Regarding the "leak", Microsoft does these intentionally, it's a PR stunt. It's unofficial, but they do it every time. Why else would EVERY SINGLE internal development copy of Windows find its way out onto "piracy" sites?Aug 05 22:55
DaemonFCIt is true that some "pirate" versions of Windows have unexpected malware, but it's also true that Windows itself is malware no matter where you get it. So, the malware rate for Windows is 100% right off the bat, since it controls and manipulates the user on behalf of Microsoft.Aug 05 22:55
DaemonFCSome people ask whether Microsoft or Apple is a better choice. The truthAug 05 22:55
DaemonFCis that they are a false choice. They are really the same thingAug 05 22:55
DaemonFC(malicious proprietary software) and they are both designed to takeAug 05 22:55
DaemonFCpower over your computing from you and give it to themselves. SometimesAug 05 22:55
DaemonFCthis is for monopoly abuse, as it lets them push other software on youAug 05 22:55
DaemonFCsuch as Internet Explorer or Microsoft Office, and sometimes it's justAug 05 22:55
DaemonFCbecause the criminal scum at the RIAA/MPAA ("MAFIAA") tell them whatAug 05 22:55
DaemonFCthey want, and they do it."Aug 05 22:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Apple's !patent lawsuits are blowing its secrets is the story here 05 22:56
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DaemonFC"The Windows store is DRM, it is also a back door where Microsoft can force updates to your software on you silently, whether you want them or not. It also allows them to remotely remove any software you have installed. This is how Apple's store works."Aug 05 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, what powers @MarsCuriosity? Radioisitope Thermoelectric Generator: 05 22:58
DaemonFC"The sheer amount that Microsoft intrudes upon the user's privacy is totally unprecedented, even by their standards."Aug 05 22:58
DaemonFC:)Aug 05 22:58
MinceRdidn't WMP already include such a backdoor?Aug 05 22:59
DaemonFCWindows Media Player?Aug 05 22:59
MinceRyesAug 05 22:59
MinceR(which happens to come with winblows)Aug 05 22:59
DaemonFCI don't know. Even when I used Windows, I didn't use that thing.Aug 05 22:59
DaemonFCgod awfulest media player software EVERAug 05 22:59
MinceRi know, right?Aug 05 23:00
DaemonFCit belongs in the same shit bin as Internet ExplorerAug 05 23:00
MinceRsomething regarding DRM, WMP and updates was in the winblows EULA i read onceAug 05 23:00
DaemonFCwell, it is a component of WindowsAug 05 23:00
DaemonFCwhen you say that Windows is malicious software, you are covering any software that comes with it as wellAug 05 23:00
DaemonFCthe only thing that makes IE or WMP a Windows component is that Microsoft won't allow you to uninstall them (not really anyway, although it may let you delete a few shortcuts)Aug 05 23:02
DaemonFCso they're jsut laying low, waiting for some malicious software that finds their shared components to be useful as an attack methodAug 05 23:02
DaemonFCvB-)Aug 05 23:02
MinceRand you've already signed the EULA which practically gives them ownership of your PC :>Aug 05 23:02
DaemonFCI struggle to think of anyone that actually wants them thereAug 05 23:02
DaemonFC 05 23:11
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DaemonFClooks like I brought in a broken version of RekonqAug 05 23:11
DaemonFCoh well, hardly ever use itAug 05 23:11
sebsebsebDaemonFC: seems going by that link that they may get rid of Metro.Aug 05 23:12
DaemonFCno, it just changed namesAug 05 23:12
DaemonFCthat's a record for Microsoft, usually they have a failed product out already before they change names to trick people into trying it againAug 05 23:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] watching #CityOfGod #class #BrazilAug 05 23:14
MinceR:>Aug 05 23:17
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-MS-7501': Linux 3.2.0-29-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.9.00, CPU: AMDPhenomIIX4945 at 3000 MHz (5986 bogomips), HD: 92/1853GB, RAM: 3216/7986MB, 153 proc's, 6.58h upAug 05 23:24
DaemonFCyeah, kwin does seem to be performing a bit better in KDE 4.9Aug 05 23:29
DaemonFCthe direct rendering with Catalyst 12.6 has been quite goodAug 05 23:29
DaemonFCkwin can now use the OpenGL 2 backend but only if you force it to (it still detects fglrx and defaults to OpenGL 1.5 without the override) Aug 05 23:30
MinceRgnAug 05 23:30
oiaohmDaemonFC: check the ram usage.Aug 05 23:30
oiaohmDaemonFC: that has nicely been going down between versions.Aug 05 23:31
oiaohmDaemonFC: I guess you don't have ksm on.Aug 05 23:31
DaemonFCThe process kwin is using approximately 43.2 MB of memory.Aug 05 23:31
DaemonFCIt is using 36.6 MB privately, and a further 31.0 MB that is, or could be, shared with other programs.Aug 05 23:31
DaemonFCDividing up the shared memory between all the processes sharing that memory we get a reduced shared memory usage of 6.6 MB. Adding that to the private usage, we get the above mentioned total memory footprint of 43.2 MB.Aug 05 23:31
DaemonFCyeah, that's down a bitAug 05 23:32
oiaohmDaemonFC: with 4.8 I am mostly running under 2g of total memory used.Aug 05 23:33
oiaohmDaemonFC: but I do have ksm turned on in my kernel.Aug 05 23:33
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