IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: August 8th, 2012

prurigro	MinceR, thank you :)	Aug 08 00:00
MinceR	np	Aug 08 00:00
Omega	MinceR: keep reading	Aug 08 00:00
Omega	"It claims that fostering a progressive evolution of capitalism will gradually result in the evolution of capitalist economy into socialist economy."	Aug 08 00:00
MinceR	yes, and during that process, would it have elements of both end points? :>	Aug 08 00:01
prurigro	Omega, that supports my point	Aug 08 00:01
msb_	If Canada is governed democratically -- one person one vote -- and has good state-provided medical care, housing, and welfare payments for those who need them, then it is partially socialist.	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	until it is capitalist	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	until it is socisliast	Aug 08 00:01
prurigro	yea, like MinceR said-- how does something evolve from one state to another when it can only exist in one state or another?	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	it would be capitalist	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	· >·	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	really	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	PLEASE	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	educate yourself	Aug 08 00:01
prurigro	I have	Aug 08 00:01
Omega	what socialist literature have your ead	Aug 08 00:02
prurigro	I've taken countless classes that have covered this material	Aug 08 00:02
Omega	please don't tell me you saw it on tv	Aug 08 00:02
MinceR	"the political system of Ankh-Morpork is described as "One Man, One Vote," in which Vetinari alone is the Man, and he has the Vote." https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Patrician_of_Ankh-Morpork	Aug 08 00:02
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msb_	That's not going to be helpful.	Aug 08 00:02
Omega	prurigro: so what literature did you read in the classes	Aug 08 00:02
Omega	because it's blatantly wrong	Aug 08 00:02
Omega	you seriously can't think that canada is socialist	Aug 08 00:02
Omega	:\|	Aug 08 00:02
Omega	· >·	Aug 08 00:03
msb_	Canada is partially socialist!!!	Aug 08 00:03
Omega	·< ·	Aug 08 00:03
msb_	To insist that it isn't is splitting hairs.	Aug 08 00:03
MinceR	according to Omega, there's no such thing :>	Aug 08 00:03
prurigro	Omega, its the same problem as the one you had with MinceR, which I've been trying to point out inbetween getting wrapped up in countering your various arguments	Aug 08 00:03
MinceR	but i think this discussion is mostly splitting hairs.	Aug 08 00:03
prurigro	the term was defined as one thing, that definition still stands	Aug 08 00:03
Omega	:\|	Aug 08 00:03
Omega	you probably don't know what the means of production are	Aug 08 00:04
Omega	so the problem comes from that	Aug 08 00:04
msb_	Well then call it social-democrat.	Aug 08 00:04
MinceR	any object can be a means of production	Aug 08 00:04
prurigro	other differing definitions have come about that are equally accepted and lack alternative terminology	Aug 08 00:04
MinceR	for example, it could be used to pound a nail into a piece of wood.	Aug 08 00:04
MinceR	if it's soft, it could be frozen, or encased in some material...	Aug 08 00:04
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htySWgy7Uj8&feature=related	Aug 08 00:05
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msb_	MinceR: No. MoP are factories, farms, hospitals, etc.	Aug 08 00:05
prurigro	Omega, isn't the means of production everything used in production except the people?	Aug 08 00:05
MinceR	msb_: how is the "etc" part defined?	Aug 08 00:05
MinceR	msb_: (separate question) do MoP include raw materials?	Aug 08 00:05
Omega	· >·	Aug 08 00:05
msb_	No.	Aug 08 00:06
prurigro	Omega, you'll have to explain why this is relevant though, beyond possibly being interwoven in what I could imagine would have been the original definition	Aug 08 00:06
Omega	anyway I'm outta here	Aug 08 00:06
Omega	cya	Aug 08 00:06
prurigro	haha	Aug 08 00:06
MinceR	gn	Aug 08 00:06
prurigro	tired of the back and forth oy?	Aug 08 00:06
Omega	got otehr obligations too	Aug 08 00:06
prurigro	well, politics and religion right-- no hard feelings of course	Aug 08 00:06
Omega	sorry	Aug 08 00:06
MinceR	also, that means i can produce without means of production	Aug 08 00:06
prurigro	and enjoy the night/evening	Aug 08 00:06
msb_	You've stimulated a great discussion Omega!	Aug 08 00:06
Omega	:)	Aug 08 00:06
MinceR	indeed	Aug 08 00:06
Omega	and it didn't become us attacking eachother personally	Aug 08 00:07
Omega	so good	Aug 08 00:07
lemmu	well	Aug 08 00:07
prurigro	+1 for that	Aug 08 00:07
lemmu	[19:04:00] <Omega> you probably don't know what the means of production are	Aug 08 00:07
lemmu	doesn't that count?	Aug 08 00:07
Omega	· >·	Aug 08 00:07
prurigro	it was getting close, but I'm just touching up on it now to expand my knowledge of the term and it felt more like a jolt to stimulate the argument than a direct attack	Aug 08 00:08
prurigro	risky maneuver, but overall positive	Aug 08 00:09
prurigro	MinceR, btw- thoughts on the firefox phone?	Aug 08 00:10
Omega	http://i.imgur.com/UoMJn.jpg	Aug 08 00:10
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prurigro	nice =D	Aug 08 00:11
Omega	anyway: http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/index.html	Aug 08 00:11
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prurigro	Omega, I'd be an anarchist if everyone was like you and I	Aug 08 00:11
lemmu	prurigro, I hope someday you'll join us, etc	Aug 08 00:14
prurigro	ahha	Aug 08 00:14
prurigro	see	Aug 08 00:14
prurigro	I already have	Aug 08 00:14
prurigro	yet I never can :)	Aug 08 00:14
lemmu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRhq-yO1KN8 ie this	Aug 08 00:14
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prurigro	lemmu, its called the internet ;)	Aug 08 00:15
prurigro	in fact	Aug 08 00:15
lemmu	oh shit	Aug 08 00:15
lemmu	you're right	Aug 08 00:16
prurigro	you should hit up the darknet	Aug 08 00:16
lemmu	except not everything on the internet is free :<	Aug 08 00:16
lemmu	so I have to pirate it all	Aug 08 00:16
prurigro	anarchy doesn't mean you can walk up to someone and steal their sword, but it does mean that the person has no say in your ability to get a sword elsewhere	Aug 08 00:17
prurigro	the internet is almost there	Aug 08 00:17
lemmu	but people are trying to stop it from getting there	Aug 08 00:18
prurigro	the darknet is encrypted and anonymous, and can span across the internet and private networks all the same-- I'd say that'd be able to fit the definition a touch better	Aug 08 00:18
lemmu	every time one bill gets shot down, another two pop up	Aug 08 00:18
lemmu	it's like a lerneaen hydra	Aug 08 00:18
prurigro	bills will be irrelevant once we're all in the dark	Aug 08 00:18
lemmu	nothing can really stop piracy	Aug 08 00:19
lemmu	except no internet at all	Aug 08 00:19
prurigro	even without	Aug 08 00:19
prurigro	piracy has existed as long as media has existed	Aug 08 00:19
prurigro	ancient books were copied word for word	Aug 08 00:20
prurigro	its just a bit easier these days :)	Aug 08 00:20
prurigro	that said	Aug 08 00:20
lemmu	but those would cost money	Aug 08 00:20
lemmu	the point of piracy is NOT paying for things	Aug 08 00:20
prurigro	while piracy will continue, its not a true anarchy if they can make examples of some	Aug 08 00:20
prurigro	the point of piracy is that its a politically charged term to describe humanity's nature of spreading information	Aug 08 00:21
msb_	The word "piracy" is propaganda. Originally it meant taking something away from someone. But now it means copying it, so the owner still has it and isn't deprived of it. That's very different, but by confusing the two concepts the media companies have managed to create a crime where there really isn't any.	Aug 08 00:21
prurigro	^	Aug 08 00:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Bjarne Stroustrup \| Creator of #C++ \| Big Think http://goo.gl/ptx42 #programming		Aug 08 00:21
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formic_	19:01 < msb_> If Canada is governed democratically -- one person one vote -- and has good state-provided medical care, housing, and welfare payments for those who need them, then it is partially socialist.	Aug 08 00:21
prurigro	lemmu, the darknet enters full anarchy mode	Aug 08 00:21
formic_	im not interested in funding drug dealers who get welfare because their income is illegal	Aug 08 00:22
prurigro	formic_, what msb said is correct, and what you said is a valid opinion :)	Aug 08 00:22
formic_	18:58 < msb_> This economist, arguing from history, says that we at least must have confiscatory levels of taxation in the high brackets, and major payments to the unemployed.	Aug 08 00:23
lemmu	that's also a good argument to make drugs legal	Aug 08 00:23
formic_	czary!	Aug 08 00:23
formic_	a planned economy would cripple technology	Aug 08 00:23
prurigro	plan what you need, and let the rest grow wild	Aug 08 00:24
prurigro	and only what you need	Aug 08 00:24
prurigro	lemmu, what OS you got?	Aug 08 00:24
lemmu	all of them	Aug 08 00:25
prurigro	haha	Aug 08 00:25
lemmu	Debian, windows, OS X	Aug 08 00:25
prurigro	haiku?	Aug 08 00:25
formic_	windows is das capitalist	Aug 08 00:25
prurigro	debian = 3rd best	Aug 08 00:25
prurigro	:(	Aug 08 00:25
prurigro	=D	Aug 08 00:25
msb_	If wealth distribution were not so incredibly uneven -- 1%/99% -- there would be plenty for new technology development.	Aug 08 00:25
lemmu	I love debian	Aug 08 00:25
formic_	Fedora ftw	Aug 08 00:25
lemmu	I always will	Aug 08 00:25
prurigro	(don't worry, not gonna start a distro war)	Aug 08 00:25
formic_	msb_ average workers aren't good with computers, look at you	Aug 08 00:26
formic_	"herp derp i cant adapt with my amd x2"	Aug 08 00:26
lemmu	[19:25:25] <formic_> windows is das capitalist	Aug 08 00:26
lemmu	it also is the easiest OS to pirate	Aug 08 00:26
formic_	true	Aug 08 00:27
prurigro	lemmu, https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns hit me up if you want a way in if you're interested and get it compiled	Aug 08 00:27
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formic_	unless you own a real mac	Aug 08 00:27
prurigro	didn't they make osx hard to pirate recently?	Aug 08 00:27
msb_	"formic_" aka "ender2070" is actually Brandon Lozza, who believes that the world is controlled by Neanderthals who live 10 miles underground. He's been following me around since at least May 30, 2011, when he wrote "msb - your site is pure communism". He has posted lying anti-Linux/pro-Microsoftpropaganda to COLA.	Aug 08 00:27
formic_	no serials or activation in osx	Aug 08 00:27
lemmu	I do own a real mac	Aug 08 00:27
prurigro	msb_, canned response when he fights you?	Aug 08 00:28
formic_	msb_ fuck off	Aug 08 00:28
lemmu	I don't even care to pirate their releases	Aug 08 00:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] booting into #Windows is more a suggestion, than command, you may be twiddling your thumbs as it updates & reboots a few times #productivity		Aug 08 00:28
lemmu	I just spend the $20 because it's really not that much	Aug 08 00:28
prurigro	apparently the latest osx release made it way worse	Aug 08 00:28
lemmu	mountain lion didn't even add anything good enough to mention	Aug 08 00:29
msb_	prurigro: It's either that or answer his lying crap, which makes others think that he's worth answering. Actually he's an obnoxious nutball who follows me around and makes personal attacks.	Aug 08 00:29
formic_	Mark "Shapeshifter" Bilk available at 650-968-1065 seems to think there are problems with my theories and loves to say my real name over and over when he attacks me out of random.	Aug 08 00:29
lemmu	is that seriously your number?	Aug 08 00:30
formic_	yes	Aug 08 00:30
formic_	whois cosmicpenguin.com	Aug 08 00:30
lemmu	I'm going to text you lewd pictures of cats	Aug 08 00:30
lemmu	(not really)	Aug 08 00:30
formic_	he doesnt own a cell phone	Aug 08 00:30
*formic_ goes to 4chan.org		Aug 08 00:31
prurigro	lemmu, also: https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/Build_on_Mac_OS_X	Aug 08 00:31
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*formic_ visits /b/		Aug 08 00:31
lemmu	[19:27:37] <msb_> "formic_" aka "ender2070" is actually Brandon Lozza, who believes that the world is controlled by Neanderthals who live 10 miles underground.	Aug 08 00:31
lemmu	this is not actually true, is it?	Aug 08 00:31
msb_	It is what he spouts.	Aug 08 00:31
formic_	10 miles underground is something i've never said	Aug 08 00:31
lemmu	but what about the neanderthals?	Aug 08 00:31
formic_	actually the US gov't has bases even deeper than that	Aug 08 00:32
lemmu	do you have any uh	Aug 08 00:32
lemmu	proof?	Aug 08 00:32
msb_	He's said the Neanderthals live in the Mohorovicic Discontinuity, which is at least 10 miles deep.	Aug 08 00:32
lemmu	rather	Aug 08 00:32
lemmu	what keeps you believing that?	Aug 08 00:32
formic_	its probably more than 10 miles deep	Aug 08 00:32
formic_	leemu - check out Glen Kealey	Aug 08 00:32
formic_	and its a theory	Aug 08 00:32
formic_	its just as likely that they could be underground on the moon	Aug 08 00:33
formic_	which is where Mark S Bilk's buddy David Icke thinks reptilians live	Aug 08 00:33
lemmu	pardon my french but	Aug 08 00:33
lemmu	what the actual fuck?	Aug 08 00:33
formic_	lol, nobody is forcing you to believe anything	Aug 08 00:34
msb_	The Mohorovičić discontinuity is 5 to 10 kilometres (3–6 mi) below the ocean floor and 20 to 90 kilometres (10–60 mi) beneath typical continents, with an average of 35 kilometres (22 mi) beneath them	Aug 08 00:34
lemmu	Neanderthals are extinct though	Aug 08 00:34
formic_	unless its something Mark says	Aug 08 00:34
lemmu	why are they hiding from us?	Aug 08 00:34
formic_	if you dont repeat what Mark thinks, you're working for the capitalist fascists	Aug 08 00:34
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 00:35
formic_	lemmu - the theory is that there is a hive mind computer from ancient times there that has been genetically engineering humans for 50,000 years	Aug 08 00:35
lemmu	that sounds uh	Aug 08 00:35
formic_	underground because its easier to survive world wide disasters	Aug 08 00:35
prurigro	the fact that we share dna with neanderthals is clearly too convenient as well	Aug 08 00:35
lemmu	ridiculous	Aug 08 00:35
lemmu	no it isn't	Aug 08 00:36
prurigro	=D	Aug 08 00:36
lemmu	we evolved along with them	Aug 08 00:36
prurigro	sorry, I was gonna troll	Aug 08 00:36
formic_	nope	Aug 08 00:36
prurigro	but I don't like trolling	Aug 08 00:36
formic_	even mainstream science doesnt think so	Aug 08 00:36
lemmu	really?	Aug 08 00:36
prurigro	actually we definitely interbred	Aug 08 00:36
formic_	they were seperate and some breeded with the humans	Aug 08 00:36
prurigro	and its more than likely why their species 'disappeared'	Aug 08 00:36
formic_	breeding and genetic engineering are hard to differentiate	Aug 08 00:36
prurigro	they're literally the same	Aug 08 00:37
prurigro	no difference	Aug 08 00:37
prurigro	unless you mean recombinant dna via ecoli	Aug 08 00:37
msb_	Brandon attributes all of David Icke's beliefs to me because I have one link in cosmicpenguin.com to a speech of his about the NWO, which does not mention reptilians at all. If it did, I wouldn't link to it.	Aug 08 00:37
formic_	leemu - im not trying to convert anyone but Mark "Shapeshifter" Bilk likes to smear me all the time	Aug 08 00:38
formic_	whenever I argue with him with topics that you would accept as fact	Aug 08 00:38
lemmu	mm	Aug 08 00:38
msb_	Brandon repeatedly broadcasts the same lies about me all the time, even though I've corrected him. He's a malicious stalker.	Aug 08 00:38
formic_	im a malicious stalker? you keep talking about me behind my back	Aug 08 00:38
lemmu	jesus christ, you two	Aug 08 00:39
lemmu	you're like an old married couple	Aug 08 00:39
msb_	I haven't lied about him, or posted mocked-up pictures claiming to be him, etc, ever!	Aug 08 00:39
formic_	ill see something msb_ says that I disagree with, call him on it and then he smears me with stuff i've said in the past	Aug 08 00:39
lemmu	why are you telling me this?	Aug 08 00:39
lemmu	are you autistic?	Aug 08 00:39
formic_	just so you know hes crazier	Aug 08 00:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] False #Syria Reports: #Reuters was running outdated WordPress - The H Open http://goo.gl/aWG4O they didn't noticed! they're used to it.		Aug 08 00:39
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lemmu	no wait	Aug 08 00:39
lemmu	I think the person who believes in neanderthals controlling a moon computer	Aug 08 00:40
lemmu	is the one who is crazier	Aug 08 00:40
prurigro	lemmu, did you know that autism stems from a gene that appears to originate from neanderthals?	Aug 08 00:40
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 00:40
formic_	he believes shapeshifting reptilians are controlling the capitalist fascists	Aug 08 00:40
prurigro	isn't trump reptillian?	Aug 08 00:41
lemmu	are you serious?	Aug 08 00:41
prurigro	you'd think with all that money you'd get a better human costume	Aug 08 00:41
formic_	so is the Queen	Aug 08 00:41
prurigro	lemmu, no :)	Aug 08 00:41
msb_	I certainly do not, and I haven't ever said so. Brandon Lozza is making up lies about me, as always.	Aug 08 00:41
lemmu	do you know that there is a tool on most modern irc clients	Aug 08 00:42
lemmu	called /ignore?	Aug 08 00:42
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 00:42
formic_	well you would think that if everything I say is suspect because of stuff I've said about reptilians; that he would reject David Icke based on stuff he has said about reptilians	Aug 08 00:42
prurigro	its there in the old ones too	Aug 08 00:42
lemmu	I know	Aug 08 00:42
prurigro	lemmu, what do you think? realz or trollz?	Aug 08 00:42
formic_	I've said about neanderthals*	Aug 08 00:42
msb_	I would use it except that when he lies about me in public I want to correct it.	Aug 08 00:43
formic_	its half trollz	Aug 08 00:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Kolab 3 #groupware enters alpha test - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/gmDLY		Aug 08 00:43
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prurigro	which half?	Aug 08 00:43
lemmu	you're all insane	Aug 08 00:43
formic_	i do believe in neanderthals but im getting back at msb_ for being a douche	Aug 08 00:43
prurigro	lemmu, I just like to play along-- you should try it	Aug 08 00:43
formic_	I left him alone for months	Aug 08 00:43
formic_	then he randomly posts my name accusing someone else of being me	Aug 08 00:44
lemmu	is there a cult or something that follows this theory?	Aug 08 00:44
prurigro	lemmu, the cult of formic	Aug 08 00:44
formic_	Mark has told me on the phone he believed in reptilian theories, pointing to ancient myths	Aug 08 00:44
formic_	if I had recorded it	Aug 08 00:44
prurigro	once he has more members he'll start picking out his multiple wives :)	Aug 08 00:45
formic_	it would be excellent to use against him since he lies about it	Aug 08 00:45
formic_	lol prurigro	Aug 08 00:45
formic_	I already have a wife and a few mistresses	Aug 08 00:45
msb_	He began attacking me because he thought I was under control by the Masons or Neanderthals because my parents were programmed by them to name me Mark Bilk so that it would contain the words ARK ILK, which apparently mean something to Brandon.	Aug 08 00:45
formic_	noah's ark = dna database, ilk = group of people	Aug 08 00:46
formic_	ark ilk = group of people who work with the dna database	Aug 08 00:46
msb_	There - see?	Aug 08 00:46
formic_	so?	Aug 08 00:46
formic_	do I keep doing it?	Aug 08 00:46
prurigro	formic_, I think you scared lemmu away	Aug 08 00:47
formic_	i dont randomly after months point that out to everyone reading the chat logs	Aug 08 00:47
msb_	And since my website doesn't blame the Masons for controlling the world, he decided I was evil.	Aug 08 00:47
formic_	msb_ you have mason friends	Aug 08 00:47
*prurigro wonders what formic_ would do if he became a mason		Aug 08 00:47
lemmu	guys	Aug 08 00:47
lemmu	are you uh	Aug 08 00:47
lemmu	actually serious?	Aug 08 00:47
lemmu	both of you	Aug 08 00:47
formic_	if i became a mason?	Aug 08 00:47
prurigro	lemmu, there are three of us	Aug 08 00:47
lemmu	how old are you guys?	Aug 08 00:48
formic_	i'd pillage their archives	Aug 08 00:48
formic_	masonleaks	Aug 08 00:48
prurigro	late 20s for me and formic_ and msb_ is a touch older	Aug 08 00:48
formic_	msb_ is old	Aug 08 00:48
formic_	hes like 70	Aug 08 00:48
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 00:48
lemmu	you're wasting your lives	Aug 08 00:48
prurigro	lemmu, you seem pretty sure what's worth while in life	Aug 08 00:48
lemmu	excuse me while I go	Aug 08 00:48
msb_	I'm 66.	Aug 08 00:48
lemmu	kill myself	Aug 08 00:48
prurigro	how should we be spending our time?	Aug 08 00:48
formic_	mark is busy right now rearranging his 20 copies of MC in 20 different virtual monitors	Aug 08 00:48
lemmu	prurigro, doing productive things	Aug 08 00:49
lemmu	rather than	Aug 08 00:49
msb_	More personal attacks.	Aug 08 00:49
prurigro	lemmu, I'm working on some software while I chat-- does that count?	Aug 08 00:49
formic_	lemmu - i was doing productive things on hyperboria until msb_ started attacking me	Aug 08 00:49
lemmu	worrying about how neanderthals are controlling our minds	Aug 08 00:49
lemmu	it seems like you do this often though	Aug 08 00:49
prurigro	who?	Aug 08 00:49
msb_	I didn't even mention him. He's lying.	Aug 08 00:49
lemmu	not you	Aug 08 00:49
prurigro	:)	Aug 08 00:50
formic_	msb_ mentioned me last week out of nowhere	Aug 08 00:50
lemmu	christ	Aug 08 00:50
formic_	I can find the logs	Aug 08 00:50
prurigro	formic_ got a jabber server going in the dark the other day	Aug 08 00:50
formic_	aug 2nd I think	Aug 08 00:50
prurigro	that was pretty productive	Aug 08 00:50
lemmu	you act like you are 5	Aug 08 00:50
lemmu	stop bitching about each other	Aug 08 00:50
formic_	msb_ if you stop posting my name and copy pasta about me ill leave you alone	Aug 08 00:50
prurigro	formic_, reply to my image board post- its lonely :)	Aug 08 00:51
formic_	prurigro: when im not on the bus	Aug 08 00:51
prurigro	oh yea	Aug 08 00:51
prurigro	why are you taking so long!	Aug 08 00:51
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 00:51
prurigro	you've told me that like 10 times	Aug 08 00:51
formic_	go transit suxx0rz	Aug 08 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #ClearOS 6.3 includes Zarafa #groupware - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/WTWyf #gnulinux		Aug 08 00:51
prurigro	no joke eh	Aug 08 00:51
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formic_	they have a government granted monopoly on sux	Aug 08 00:51
formic_	government union workers	Aug 08 00:51
prurigro	probably why they're removing the bike lanes	Aug 08 00:52
formic_	no customer service	Aug 08 00:52
prurigro	force you to take transit	Aug 08 00:52
formic_	yeah	Aug 08 00:52
formic_	transit now wants you using an RFID enabled card linked to your name and address	Aug 08 00:52
formic_	with tap on tap off tracking	Aug 08 00:52
prurigro	oh man, I bought a bus pass the other day, but they randomly added an age limit to the one I picked up and didn't tell me, so I had to return it this morning	Aug 08 00:52
formic_	prestocard	Aug 08 00:53
prurigro	and they made it so you can't return them anywhere except the head office, which is like this fortress surrounded by buses everywhere	Aug 08 00:53
formic_	lol	Aug 08 00:53
prurigro	no sidewalk	Aug 08 00:53
prurigro	and signs saying I needed a hard hat and steel toes eveywhere	Aug 08 00:53
formic_	yeah	Aug 08 00:53
prurigro	and then I get into the place and its this empty lobby with a phone and a directory	Aug 08 00:53
prurigro	so I search through the like 200 names until I find customer service	Aug 08 00:53
formic_	lol	Aug 08 00:53
formic_	it was in the basement too	Aug 08 00:54
formic_	with broken stairs and no lights	Aug 08 00:54
formic_	burried under last years transit bills	Aug 08 00:54
prurigro	and this woman comes down and gets me to write all my personal information out so she can mail me a cheque for my pass in the next 6-8 weeks despite making me buy another one	Aug 08 00:54
prurigro	there were lights and stairs	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	and a motivational poster about teamwork	Aug 08 00:55
formic_	was the woman fat	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	nope	Aug 08 00:55
formic_	surprised	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	we have bike lanes in ottawa	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	remember? :)	Aug 08 00:55
formic_	yeah	Aug 08 00:55
formic_	theres bike lanes in hamilton too	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	haha	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	yea, that was just a cheap shot	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	I'm sure people in hamilton aren't fat either	Aug 08 00:55
formic_	lol	Aug 08 00:55
prurigro	I mean, you need food to get fat ;)	Aug 08 00:56
formic_	no, they're insane	Aug 08 00:56
prurigro	I was gonna blame the air, and then I realized there are like 10 other things it could be too	Aug 08 00:56
formic_	one woman ran into me at full speed on purpose (not bike or car, running)	Aug 08 00:56
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 00:56
prurigro	maybe she wanted a feel	Aug 08 00:56
formic_	every garbage day, the night before you see people on bicycles pulling trailers looting empty beer and liquor bottles from peoples recycles	Aug 08 00:57
prurigro	I knew this girl from hamilton once	Aug 08 00:57
formic_	was she white trash	Aug 08 00:57
prurigro	she made animal noises really loud every now and then	Aug 08 00:57
prurigro	prolly about 250lbs	Aug 08 00:57
formic_	jeeez	Aug 08 00:57
prurigro	she had a boyfriend who told her he'd come down to visit	Aug 08 00:58
prurigro	and she went to meet up with him	Aug 08 00:58
prurigro	(he was hamilton too)	Aug 08 00:58
prurigro	but he wasn't where he said he'd be	Aug 08 00:58
prurigro	so she called, and he tells her he's somewhere else	Aug 08 00:58
prurigro	so she goes there	Aug 08 00:58
prurigro	this carries on for another couple of hours until he confesses that he's still in hamilton playing dungeons and dragons or some shit	Aug 08 00:59
prurigro	(she was in ottawa)	Aug 08 00:59
formic_	rofl	Aug 08 00:59
prurigro	he was about 300lbs	Aug 08 00:59
formic_	"FUCK OFF BITCH! IM RAIDING BLACK TEMPLE!"	Aug 08 00:59
prurigro	"which is a 20 minute walk from where you are, come find me!'	Aug 08 01:00
formic_	lol	Aug 08 01:01
formic_	"Actually, im still in hamilton working on my sword for the roleplay"	Aug 08 01:03
prurigro	conclusion: living in Hamilton = injecting flouride while huffing chemtrails and getting autism from all the vaccines you're injecting your brain with ;)	Aug 08 01:03
prurigro	ohhh kinky lol	Aug 08 01:03
formic_	typical hamiltonian	Aug 08 01:03
formic_	dont forget huffing gasoline and smoking cigarretes butts from the ground	Aug 08 01:04
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 01:04
prurigro	everytime I go to mississauga or toronto it feels like a coating has formed on my face	Aug 08 01:04
formic_	thats the chemtrails, they're heavier here	Aug 08 01:04
prurigro	occasionally I'll pick up asthma for a day or two	Aug 08 01:04
formic_	ottawa's chemtrails probably have medication so the politicans get better	Aug 08 01:05
prurigro	you sure its not whatever that sea of factories with fire coming out of the smokestacks are pumping into the air?	Aug 08 01:05
prurigro	they don't exactly need jets for that	Aug 08 01:05
prurigro	and lol, we do get a lot of jets flying overhead	Aug 08 01:05
prurigro	and politicians do live here	Aug 08 01:06
formic_	have you seen the combined chloresterol of polticians in parliament?	Aug 08 01:06
prurigro	conclusion: undebatable argument	Aug 08 01:06
formic_	lol even harper is fat	Aug 08 01:06
prurigro	lol	Aug 08 01:06
formic_	you think he would loose weight flapping his gums about needing prisons and more airplanes	Aug 08 01:06
msb_	About 5 days ago some hostile guy calling himself "RRG" came into techright asking for info, an I tried to help him. He said he ought to change his nick to "newspyre" and I asked, "You want to burn the news?", and he said "More than just the news -- but you probably already know that." Since I had never heard of him before, it sounded like one of Brandon's many past operations to annoy me, so I said, "Why? Are you Brandon Lozza again?"	Aug 08 01:07
prurigro	its excess storage for the part of his plan when the world stops being inhabitable	Aug 08 01:07
formic_	msb_ drop it dude, ill still leave you alone	Aug 08 01:08
prurigro	msb_, lol- don	Aug 08 01:08
formic_	sweet, almost home	Aug 08 01:08
prurigro	don't* get paranoid that everyone's him	Aug 08 01:08
msb_	Brandon has attacked me about half a dozen times based on that, since then.	Aug 08 01:08
prurigro	that's like a gold medal at the trollympics	Aug 08 01:08
formic_	lol	Aug 08 01:09
formic_	until he gets trolled with logic	Aug 08 01:09
formic_	anyways, bai im almost home	Aug 08 01:09
prurigro	alright, home!	Aug 08 01:11
prurigro	enjoy one step higher up on maslow's hierarchy of needs	Aug 08 01:11
prurigro	msb_, still avoiding flouride?	Aug 08 01:12
msb_	prurigro: yes	Aug 08 01:13
prurigro	word	Aug 08 01:13
prurigro	cjd (the author of that routing algorithm used in the darknet) uses some kinda charcoal filter to get rid of it	Aug 08 01:14
prurigro	he pointed out that whether its good or bad for you, he rejected purely based on the smell test	Aug 08 01:14
prurigro	or rather, its reasonable to reject it based on the smell test*	Aug 08 01:14
prurigro	thoughts?	Aug 08 01:15
msb_	prurigro: It's impossible to know if the charcoal is used up, and someone said it doesn't absorb fluoride anyhow. I don't think it does, because there are other types of filters that do. They contain aluminum.	Aug 08 01:15
prurigro	oh wow yea	Aug 08 01:15
prurigro	Alzheimer's is not something to encourage haha	Aug 08 01:15
msb_	You can't smell fluoride. Your confusing it with chlorine, which you can smell, and is not very harmful.	Aug 08 01:15
prurigro	nono, I know which one's which	Aug 08 01:15
formic_	The Alex jones show has good adverts for water filters	Aug 08 01:15
msb_	Well, you can't smell fluoride. It's not volatile.	Aug 08 01:16
prurigro	the smell test is a basis for decision making	Aug 08 01:16
formic_	Berkey	Aug 08 01:16
prurigro	not literally smell flouride	Aug 08 01:16
prurigro	ie: if you see something curious looking you might smell it	Aug 08 01:16
prurigro	but if someone comes up to you and tells you to smell something, your first instinct will likely be to do just the opposite of that	Aug 08 01:17
prurigro	fouride in water, he argued, is the equivalent of he government running up and telling you to smell something	Aug 08 01:17
prurigro	and perhaps he would have considered trying flouride if the government hadn't tried to sneak it into his diet	Aug 08 01:18
prurigro	make sense?	Aug 08 01:18
msb_	Fluoride (note spelling) in water is the govt causing brain damage to everyone who drinks it. The distiller gets rid of it. Very simple.	Aug 08 01:19
formic_	Yes	Aug 08 01:19
formic_	I can agree	Aug 08 01:19
msb_	It cost $160, takes about 5min/day for 1 gallon, and costs 50 cents/gallon.	Aug 08 01:20
msb_	5 min of my cleaning it and refilling it. The distillation takes about 3 hours.	Aug 08 01:20
prurigro	oh true eh, uo	Aug 08 01:20
formic_	Colloidal silver is good too	Aug 08 01:21
prurigro	and word, see, that's debatable though	Aug 08 01:21
prurigro	while the smell test argument is a solid position	Aug 08 01:21
msb_	It's 950 watts, and for 3.5 hours that costs the 50 cents.	Aug 08 01:21
prurigro	whether or not you also believe the rest of the argument is likely	Aug 08 01:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] With anti-shill order, Google/Oracle judge enters "uncharted territory" (ars technica) http://ur1.ca/9wtgb		Aug 08 01:23
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msb_	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrXrE8AmIc -- MD talks about fluoride and other toxins.	Aug 08 01:25
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msb_	There are other sites with hard evidence of fluoride brain toxicity.	Aug 08 01:25
prurigro	I read through a ton of actual scientific research papers, and I did find some negative effects, but none in the brain	Aug 08 01:26
prurigro	this guy is making claims but hasn't backed anything up	Aug 08 01:27
prurigro	not saying you're wrong, just that this video isn't saying anything	Aug 08 01:27
prurigro	and that I haven't found any research material that does back you up	Aug 08 01:28
msb_	http://www.infowars.com/major-harvard-study-published-in-federal-govt-journal-confirms-fluoride-lowers-iq/	Aug 08 01:28
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msb_	More links at the bottom of that article.	Aug 08 01:28
prurigro	I mean, the video states a position without any evidence and then proceeds to 'prove' its point by talking about how everyone's being ignorant	Aug 08 01:29
prurigro	errr	Aug 08 01:29
Omega	kinda like states then	Aug 08 01:29
prurigro	infowars is not a trustworthy source-- lets see if it sources something that is...	Aug 08 01:29
Omega	don't legitimize themselves	Aug 08 01:29
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msb_	http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/idUS127920+24-Jul-2012+PRN20120724	Aug 08 01:30
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prurigro	lol, my blocklist blocks reuters?	Aug 08 01:33
prurigro	another one for the whitelist	Aug 08 01:33
msb_	http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1289/ehp.9270	Aug 08 01:34
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DaemonFC	fluoride water concentrations at 0.85 ppm have no scientifically proven health risks	Aug 08 01:35
DaemonFC	it does help prevent decay of tooth enamel	Aug 08 01:36
prurigro	arg, the epa is blocked	Aug 08 01:36
prurigro	wtf peerblock	Aug 08 01:37
DaemonFC	prurigro: that's why you shouldn't block at that level	Aug 08 01:37
DaemonFC	you should just use a torrent client that supports a blocklist	Aug 08 01:37
prurigro	DaemonFC, I do, and I'm pretty sure I had a good reason to set it up at the time... lol	Aug 08 01:38
DaemonFC	The MCL for fluoride is too high	Aug 08 01:39
DaemonFC	it should be lowered to 1.5 ppm	Aug 08 01:39
DaemonFC	the reason it is not is because that would cause some municipal water supplies that don't even add any fluoride to violate	Aug 08 01:39
msb_	http://www.fluoridealert.org/iq-studies.html	Aug 08 01:39
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DaemonFC	some municipal water supplies in the US have up to 4 ppm naturally occurring without adding any	Aug 08 01:40
DaemonFC	though I do believe at that level, action should be taken to reduce the content to below 1.5 ppm	Aug 08 01:41
DaemonFC	it would probably be better to just filter it out and then add it back at 0.85 ppm	Aug 08 01:41
DaemonFC	that would be very expensive though	Aug 08 01:41
DaemonFC	so the MCL is left alone	Aug 08 01:41
DaemonFC	the MCLG is 1 ppm under Indiana law	Aug 08 01:42
DaemonFC	but the law also requires fluoride content to be at least 0.85 ppm	Aug 08 01:42
DaemonFC	the reason that fluoridated water's effectiveness has fallen since its introduction is easily explained	Aug 08 01:44
DaemonFC	fluoridated toothpaste was pretty uncommon in the US until the late 1950s	Aug 08 01:44
msb_	Guzzle that fluoride DaemonFC! You can have my share too!	Aug 08 01:45
DaemonFC	as it became more common, the difference in tooth decay between communities that fluoridated and communities that did not dropped	Aug 08 01:45
DaemonFC	I'm not sure that water fluoridation is optimal, I believe that increasing the fluoride concentration in toothpaste would be more effective	Aug 08 01:46
DaemonFC	assuming that people brush their teeth like they should....	Aug 08 01:46
DaemonFC	opponents of water fluoridation point out that in European countries where fluoridation is less common, tooth decay has seen a similar decline	Aug 08 01:47
DaemonFC	what they don't point out is that the toothpaste in those countries tends to have about 3-4 times as much fluoride as it does in the United States	Aug 08 01:47
prurigro	msb_, I've been reading through-- a lot of things would suggest issues, but nothings conclusive	Aug 08 01:48
DaemonFC	clearly you can get the tooth decay prevention benefit of fluoride with a non-fluoridated water supply if the concentration in the toothpaste is higher	Aug 08 01:48
prurigro	the epa study is neurotoxicity in 'mammals'	Aug 08 01:48
prurigro	which include everything from humans (can eat an unlimited amount of lsd without risk of death) to elephants (will die eating a single dose of lsd)	Aug 08 01:48
msb_	prurigro: Check and see whether you have nipples.	Aug 08 01:48
DaemonFC	I'd be in favor of stopping water fluoridation if the toothpaste concentration was increased to between 0.9-1.2% of the composition of the paste	Aug 08 01:49
prurigro	or humans (no record of anyone having died of sleep deprivation) to dogs (will die if deprived from sleep for a certain amount of time)	Aug 08 01:49
DaemonFC	it would be more cost effective even if a tube of toothpaste increased in price 5-10 cents	Aug 08 01:49
prurigro	msb_, yup-- seems I have twice as many as the average number of offspring, just like a mammal :)	Aug 08 01:50
DaemonFC	water fluoridation can cost between $3-11 per person per year depending on the scale of the water system	Aug 08 01:50
DaemonFC	adding more fluoride to the toothpaste would only cost about 60-80 cents per person per year	Aug 08 01:51
prurigro	my point was that if it assessed mammals generally, its possibly humans wouldn't react even if another species did	Aug 08 01:51
prurigro	DaemonFC, isn't flouride waste from some other process they need to get rid of though?	Aug 08 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Paid Media Must Be Disclosed In #Oracle v. #Google - Slashdot http://goo.gl/tSkFC let's see who are the FUD makers....		Aug 08 01:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Day: GNOME OS http://ur1.ca/9wtkx		Aug 08 01:51
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DaemonFC	prurigro: the aluminum industry mainly	Aug 08 01:51
DaemonFC	I probably get more fluoride than most people because I tend to drink iced tea a lot	Aug 08 01:52
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 08 01:52
msb_	http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_history4.shtml	Aug 08 01:53
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DaemonFC	Camellia sinensis tends to store environmental fluoride fairly well, and the soil in the countries that grow it tend to be more contaminated than the soil in first world countries	Aug 08 01:53
DaemonFC	msb_: LSB should remain banned	Aug 08 01:54
DaemonFC	*LSD	Aug 08 01:54
DaemonFC	as should cocaine and methamphetamine	Aug 08 01:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Internet Archive Starts Seeding 1,398,875 Torrents http://goo.gl/G54um		Aug 08 01:54
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DaemonFC	I'm in favor of decriminalization of marijuana and peyote possession	Aug 08 01:54
DaemonFC	I think what Massachusetts did is the right thing to do	Aug 08 01:55
DaemonFC	possession of marijuana in quantities smaller than one ounce is a civil infraction	Aug 08 01:55
DaemonFC	with a fine not to exceed $100	Aug 08 01:55
msb_	The elephant was injected by Jolyon West -- the incredibly evil leader (I think) of the CIA MK-ULTRA mind control operation -- with 297 milligrams of LSD!!!	Aug 08 01:56
msb_	That's about 1000 human doses!!!	Aug 08 01:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] BRANDED - Official Trailer #2 - YouTube http://goo.gl/gMWUl #movies #dystopia		Aug 08 01:56
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msb_	Maybe 2,000, actually.	Aug 08 01:56
DaemonFC	well, marijuana does not cause psychotic hallucinations unless it has been adulterated	Aug 08 01:56
DaemonFC	LSD does	Aug 08 01:56
prurigro	actually that's incorrect	Aug 08 01:57
DaemonFC	if someone has had a psychotic hallucination on marijuana, then it probably had something else in it	Aug 08 01:58
DaemonFC	possibly LSD	Aug 08 01:58
prurigro	th hallucinations LSD causes are different than psychosis, and are actually more primarily based in the 5-ht system than the dopmaine system and the systems DA is connected to, which is the basis of psychosis	Aug 08 01:58
msb_	The effects of LSD are dose-related.	Aug 08 01:58
prurigro	they're dose related to a point, and then you hit a wall as the majority of your 5-ht receptors become saturated	Aug 08 01:58
DaemonFC	the government has come down so hard on marijuana that most reasonable people would at least agree that the punishments for simple possession are outrageous	Aug 08 01:59
prurigro	but a considerable amount more appears to produce a stronger effect due to its ability to overpower natural NTs and fight or additional saturation	Aug 08 01:59
msb_	If adults want to use it they should be able to. Maybe a little training should be required.	Aug 08 01:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Apple and Samsung: You Can't Make This Stuff Up http://goo.gl/5y2x2		Aug 08 01:59
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prurigro	marijuana causes psychosis in people predisposed to schizophrenia because it activates organs in the brain that become active when experiencing psychosis	Aug 08 02:00
msb_	Dosage, set, and setting -- all important.	Aug 08 02:00
prurigro	I agree	Aug 08 02:00
prurigro	I think drugs should be legalized, but that you should need some form of education before taking them	Aug 08 02:00
msb_	Cannabis should be totally legal -- production, possession, and usage -- for adults.	Aug 08 02:00
msb_	A warning label about dosage could be required on the package.	Aug 08 02:01
msb_	Mescaline, psilocybin, and LSD should all be totally legal, maybe with a one-day class required.	Aug 08 02:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] how long does an #android tablet sit in download mode before it triggers the yellow ID:CD in #Odin? trying to root my samsung galaxy tab 2		Aug 08 02:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] it's been ages in "downloading... do not turn off target" but seems to be doing nothing at the windows or tablet end		Aug 08 02:04
prurigro	msb_, amphetamine could probably be alloed with that class	Aug 08 02:05
prurigro	mdma as well	Aug 08 02:05
schestowitz	the notion of drug legality is odd	Aug 08 02:05
schestowitz	and arbitrary	Aug 08 02:05
schestowitz	I comply by it, but I think it needs revision	Aug 08 02:05
prurigro	based to a larger degree in lobbying than it should	Aug 08 02:06
msb_	With any psychoactive drug, a person should start with a very small dose, give it time to take effect, and then increase the dose as needed. "titration to effect"	Aug 08 02:06
prurigro	msb_, except mdma	Aug 08 02:06
prurigro	which literally only works properly about 8 times	Aug 08 02:06
DaemonFC	actually, it isn't possible to overdose on marijuana	Aug 08 02:06
schestowitz	might reduce suicide rates	Aug 08 02:06
prurigro	and only at very small dose range	Aug 08 02:06
schestowitz	and fewer people in prison	Aug 08 02:06
schestowitz	depending on what's made legal	Aug 08 02:06
DaemonFC	which is why you should eat it if a cop is about to pull you over	Aug 08 02:06
prurigro	they made a pill that has the reverse effects of marijuana	Aug 08 02:06
schestowitz	I never did pot, I would try it if it became legal here	Aug 08 02:07
prurigro	hoping it would work as a good diet drug	Aug 08 02:07
msb_	prurigro: does mdma then permanently not work anymore?	Aug 08 02:07
prurigro	and a bunch of the people testing it committed suicide	Aug 08 02:07
DaemonFC	schestowitz: If it became legal, the percentage of nice people would increase, a lot.	Aug 08 02:07
msb_	after 8 uses?	Aug 08 02:07
schestowitz	some drugs that induce death and are suprt addictive like drug-cocaine should clearly be treated differently	Aug 08 02:07
DaemonFC	of course, there might be a run on Taco Bell	Aug 08 02:07
schestowitz	!google itv4 david nutt drug classification	Aug 08 02:07
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - New Report Ranks Alcohol as Most Harmful Drug - YouTube \| http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DdOovd5k5i9M	Aug 08 02:07
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Ecstasy does not wreck the mind, study claims \| Society \| The Observer \| http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/19/ecstasy-harm-brain-new-study	Aug 08 02:07
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Drug tsar Prof David Nutt sacked after claiming that alcohol worse ... \| http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/drug-tsar-prof-david-nutt-428239	Aug 08 02:07
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Government's chief drug adviser Professor David Nutt sacked - Mirror \| http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/governments-chief-drug-adviser-professor-428161	Aug 08 02:07
DaemonFC	but that's good for the economy I guess	Aug 08 02:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1849792	Aug 08 02:07
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to Enhance Your Router With Open-Source Firmware http://www.pcworld.com/article/260281/how_to_enhance_your_router_with_opensource_firmware.html #opensource #routing	Aug 08 02:07
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schestowitz	"Too bad there's not much you can actually put on your router. We have DD-WRT, OpenWRT and Tomato router. That's pretty much it. And not everyone of them works on your router. But afterall it's better than commercial firmware I must say. I use DD-WRT and the only issue I have is the mac-reset routine during reboots."	Aug 08 02:08
schestowitz	[02:07] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: If it became legal, the percentage of nice people would increase, a lot.	Aug 08 02:08
schestowitz	yes	Aug 08 02:08
prurigro	msb_, yea, mdma amphetamine and methamphetamine all cause tolerance through an influx of Ca++ through the gated calcium ion channel in the nmda receptor	Aug 08 02:08
schestowitz	and less cranky. Some who are depessed can be redeemed more easily without the bodily harms of alcohol	Aug 08 02:08
DaemonFC	alcohol is a depressant	Aug 08 02:09
DaemonFC	it does not make a person feel better	Aug 08 02:09
schestowitz	those who are in despair and want to fall in love with the drug already have something to hold on to, like loving a bottle	Aug 08 02:09
prurigro	msb_, causing a LTP-based tolerance, meaning tolerance is based in the equivalent of a long term memory	Aug 08 02:09
DaemonFC	every single time I've been drunk, there has been a point where I started crying, a lot	Aug 08 02:09
schestowitz	"What about NAS? I have a WD Sharespace i'm trying to hack since about 2 years :P I almost got the kernel well (worst part, after that it will be a piece of cake ;) )"	Aug 08 02:09
DaemonFC	it does not help depression, it amplifies it	Aug 08 02:09
schestowitz	same for happiness	Aug 08 02:10
schestowitz	don't use that as aphrodisiac	Aug 08 02:10
schestowitz	alcohol is a very shitty drug	Aug 08 02:10
prurigro	msb_, mdma's tolerance comes the most quickly, and after about 8 doses if spread out enough not to speed that up (once every two months max should be safe in that respect), the high stops being enjoyable and eventually uncomfortable like too much coffee	Aug 08 02:10
msb_	prurigro: I think I saw a report that several times the human dose of MDMA ("Ecstasy") causes permanent damage to the brain cells that enable happiness, pleasure, and empathy.	Aug 08 02:11
msb_	This may have been in apes.	Aug 08 02:11
schestowitz	it's addictive, it makes you fat unless you drink it in a way that disgusts you and leaves an unpleasant feeling, it can make you throw up, it harms you body.. A LOT.	Aug 08 02:11
*schestowitz bought a lot of booze yesterday/toda		Aug 08 02:11
prurigro	msb_, mdma causes the release of serotonin in large quantities, and then another release a few days later, leaving less 5-ht than is required to fill receptors unless supplemented	Aug 08 02:12
msb_	Whatever else, booze makes you stupid. That's why it's legal.	Aug 08 02:12
schestowitz	booze kills you quickly	Aug 08 02:12
schestowitz	as does nicotine, taken in smoke form	Aug 08 02:13
msb_	They want us stupid. That's why the fluoride, and the aluminum and mercury in the vaccines.	Aug 08 02:13
prurigro	msb_, at this point, dopamine fills the serotonin receptors, causing a similar albeit slightly different effect, but then when MAO comes along to break NTs down, it turns DA into hydrogen peroxide, which DA receptors are more capable of handling, and damage is done to your serotonin receptors	Aug 08 02:13
schestowitz	no need for the pension Ponzi scheme to cater for those whom it never had money for anyway	Aug 08 02:13
schestowitz	msb_: what about dogs' vaccine?	Aug 08 02:14
schestowitz	Doesn't tjat have those too? Conspiracy?	Aug 08 02:14
prurigro	msb_, this is completely recoverable, but if you then do more mdma before the damage is healed, you cause further injury to the receptor, and risk having it go dormant (meaning it turns itself off to protect itself, and its kinda like the receptors died temporarily)	Aug 08 02:14
msb_	Check the ingredients for Al and Hg.	Aug 08 02:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] REMnux: A Linux Distribution for Reverse-Engineering Malware http://goo.gl/SfcP #gnulinux #distros #forensics		Aug 08 02:14
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*schestowitz bought a leash and collar today... with engraved tag for the labrador we plan to buy soon...		Aug 08 02:15
prurigro	do mdma couple more times after that before things have healed again, and you risk permanently killing the receptor-- so yea, damage can be caused, but its easy to avoid if oyu take a class :)	Aug 08 02:15
msb_	schestowitz: See if you can get vaccines without those toxins.	Aug 08 02:15
schestowitz	they are part of the recipe	Aug 08 02:16
schestowitz	and come in small dozes	Aug 08 02:16
schestowitz	there are better ways to male people stupid	Aug 08 02:16
schestowitz	TV, fashion, Paris Hilton, football, sex...	Aug 08 02:16
msb_	They use TV and other media too.	Aug 08 02:16
schestowitz	it's an effective thing	Aug 08 02:16
schestowitz	and I can't hlp feeling bed for people who eschew everything that the Murdoch Project, among others, is pushing down their throat	Aug 08 02:17
schestowitz	msb_: been watching about 5 hours of Wolff lectures yesterday	Aug 08 02:17
schestowitz	very fascinating	Aug 08 02:17
msb_	prurigro: Maybe a single dose of MDMA that's big enough can destroy the receptors. Should be illegal.	Aug 08 02:18
schestowitz	first saw him on Fora TV for a few minutes, only later found out he was friends with Michael Moore	Aug 08 02:18
msb_	There are a bunch more of his talks on that Occupy page.	Aug 08 02:18
prurigro	msb_, nope- that doesn't happen, larger doses can't cause more damage than a single hit of hydrogen peroxide can cause	Aug 08 02:18
schestowitz	msb_: he speaks of other things too	Aug 08 02:19
prurigro	you need to take two doses spread apart to cause damage	Aug 08 02:19
prurigro	msb_, not to mention that larger doses aren't enjoyable, unlike more addictive drugs	Aug 08 02:19
schestowitz	owning one's mills, offshoring, individuality, even atheism (he's an atheist and not shy to say so)	Aug 08 02:19
prurigro	also, if it was regulated, its possible to completely eliminate all risk of damage due to mixed pills, lack of education and by providing the known compounds that can prevent any damage	Aug 08 02:21
prurigro	msb_, legalizing heroin on the other hand I'd have much less confidence in my words about :)	Aug 08 02:22
*prurigro has one of his majors in psych		Aug 08 02:22
schestowitz	cool	Aug 08 02:23
msb_	prurigro: I read a long time ago that a lot of doctors and other medical people are addicted to opiates. It doesn't affect their work.	Aug 08 02:24
schestowitz	DaemonFC: do you get 'Alcafe' in Aldi?	Aug 08 02:24
msb_	schestowitz: Chris Hedges is good too.	Aug 08 02:24
schestowitz	yeah, love his stuff	Aug 08 02:24
schestowitz	I spent last week watching about 10 hours of his repertoire before it became repetitive	Aug 08 02:25
schestowitz	seems like the Zionist cabal from ADL is already harassing him	Aug 08 02:25
schestowitz	which often means he broke loose from the propaganda	Aug 08 02:25
msb_	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zotYU21qcU	Aug 08 02:27
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schestowitz	it's not just an American thing	Aug 08 02:27
schestowitz	we in the UK face similar problems	Aug 08 02:27
schestowitz	it's systemic	Aug 08 02:28
schestowitz	if capitalism hits the fan here, I might move to Germany or the far east	Aug 08 02:28
msb_	http://www.truthdig.com/chris_hedges/	Aug 08 02:29
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schestowitz	Chris is blossoming now	Aug 08 02:29
schestowitz	even my other half told me about him last week	Aug 08 02:30
schestowitz	which I was susprised by, I thought she had found out about him cause I tweeted about him, but she found through facebook	Aug 08 02:30
schestowitz	another one is Chalmers Johnson	Aug 08 02:30
schestowitz	although I don't hjear much from him anymore	Aug 08 02:30
schestowitz	Gore Vidal is dead now	Aug 08 02:30
schestowitz	Chomsky alive and Zinn dead	Aug 08 02:31
schestowitz	!google hedges corporate democracy youtube	Aug 08 02:31
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TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Chris Hedges on the rise of the corporate class. f.s. - YouTube \| http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dxnx-MiRtngA	Aug 08 02:31
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schestowitz	[1] is very good	Aug 08 02:31
DaemonFC	[21:24] <schestowitz> DaemonFC: do you get 'Alcafe' in Aldi?	Aug 08 02:32
DaemonFC	uhhm, what is that?	Aug 08 02:32
schestowitz	their coffee brand	Aug 08 02:33
schestowitz	about 2.20 ($) for 200 grams	Aug 08 02:33
schestowitz	they have sold it for at least 10 years	Aug 08 02:33
DaemonFC	here it is Beaumont	Aug 08 02:33
schestowitz	Sainsbury's sells huge cans of coffee, about half a kilo each	Aug 08 02:34
DaemonFC	33.6 oz, $5.80 iirc	Aug 08 02:34
schestowitz	maybe Aldi buys local	Aug 08 02:34
schestowitz	I got 400 grams of peaches in syrup for 29 pence a can (less than half a dollar)	Aug 08 02:34
schestowitz	35p for 400 grams of ready ravioli	Aug 08 02:34
DaemonFC	OK, so 33.6 ounces is nearly one kilogram	Aug 08 02:35
schestowitz	their vitamin tablets are cheap also	Aug 08 02:35
DaemonFC	according to wolfram alpha	Aug 08 02:35
msb_	Same as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRQjF1IPgKQ	Aug 08 02:35
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schestowitz	yeah	Aug 08 02:36
schestowitz	the one that starts with Michael Jackson as the symptom	Aug 08 02:36
DaemonFC	5.80 US dollars = 3.7084 British pounds sterling	Aug 08 02:36
schestowitz	Those talks are far more enlightening than all the junk on braodcast TV	Aug 08 02:36
schestowitz	like the lies abut "douple dip" "recession", implying something stablises inn between	Aug 08 02:37
schestowitz	subtle lies	Aug 08 02:37
schestowitz	lies buffered with some truth to obscure the bias	Aug 08 02:37
schestowitz	cushioning a lie with seemingly decent claims, like Alex Jones does	Aug 08 02:37
DaemonFC	schestowitz: Double dip implies that the "stimulus" was providing anything more than an illusion of a recovery	Aug 08 02:37
schestowitz	yeah	Aug 08 02:37
schestowitz	and that we can prevent another dip	Aug 08 02:38
schestowitz	it;'s just a flat line going down	Aug 08 02:38
schestowitz	the debt is now 15 trillion in the US, and that's just national debt	Aug 08 02:38
schestowitz	with personal debt or whatever it's a lot more	Aug 08 02:38
DaemonFC	the only thing that the stimulus did was give us a line of W's instead of a \	Aug 08 02:38
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 08 02:38
schestowitz	it's tje plutocrats lending to those who they robbed, claiming it back, WITH INTEREST	Aug 08 02:38
DaemonFC	yeah, they claim that "freeing up credit" will fix everything	Aug 08 02:39
schestowitz	I support the population of Greeze	Aug 08 02:39
schestowitz	*ce	Aug 08 02:39
DaemonFC	and it will, until there's another line of defaults	Aug 08 02:39
DaemonFC	then we have another financial collapse	Aug 08 02:39
schestowitz	we should follow their example everywhere, it helps scare bansters	Aug 08 02:39
DaemonFC	banks start seizing more property	Aug 08 02:39
schestowitz	the fact that they talk about the uprise means they actually are scared	Aug 08 02:40
DaemonFC	bigger banks go back to eating smaller banks	Aug 08 02:40
schestowitz	in 2010, 360k homes (families) had their house taken away each month, IIRC	Aug 08 02:40
schestowitz	they start living like 3rd world refugees	Aug 08 02:40
schestowitz	so much for the "American dream"	Aug 08 02:40
DaemonFC	they have to create panic in order to ram through their agenda while people are still shocked at what just hit them	Aug 08 02:40
schestowitz	the younger you are, the less well off you are	Aug 08 02:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @johnnynull: @mohanpram Requires Google account. #fail		Aug 08 02:41
schestowitz	and the older generations patronise the young, accusing the young of having been born into an era where amid population growth there is a decline in the number of DOMESIC jobs	Aug 08 02:41
formic_	21:03 < msb_> Mescaline, psilocybin, and LSD should all be totally legal, maybe with a one-day class required.	Aug 08 02:41
formic_	have you seen Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?	Aug 08 02:41
formic_	mescaline is pretty f*cked	Aug 08 02:42
schestowitz	and govt. cuts leave even more to a private sector that devalues workers, lowers wages (since 1978), and has it work overtime	Aug 08 02:42
msb_	Yeah. That probably should not be shown in the class.	Aug 08 02:42
schestowitz	US workers, on average, work 20% more time than EU counterparts	Aug 08 02:42
schestowitz	US "official" nukmbers lie about unemployment	Aug 08 02:42
schestowitz	it's probably more like 25% now	Aug 08 02:42
schestowitz	"discouraged workers" are not being counter	Aug 08 02:43
schestowitz	euphemism for people who can't find work, so gave up trying	Aug 08 02:43
msb_	I tried peyote once, about 40 years ago. It was the most gentle, natural, and visual of the psychedelics. Wonderful!	Aug 08 02:43
schestowitz	youth unemployment in the US, if you count part timers who want full time but can't, would maybe verge 50%. It's about that number in Spain.;...	Aug 08 02:43
*schestowitz sees many university grads around here working in pubs and such		Aug 08 02:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] given up on rooting the tablet for tonight, on the bright side, it's still fully functional & not bricked		Aug 08 02:44
formic_	msb_ whats stronger, mushrooms or LSD?	Aug 08 02:45
prurigro	msb_, that's true-- it only became a problem when it became illegal-- I suppose it'd be like making tobacco illegal right now	Aug 08 02:49
msb_	The dose for psilocybin is about 2 to 10 milligrams, and for LSD about 100 to 250 micrograms, so LSD is about 20 times stronger.	Aug 08 02:51
prurigro	psilocin > psilocybin	Aug 08 02:52
prurigro	25i-nbome and friends are more similar in potency to LSD	Aug 08 02:52
msb_	I didn't like psilocybin, and LSD was great the first two times, and then became confusing and unpleasant. These were all small doses.	Aug 08 02:53
prurigro	psilocybin is the more confusing and touch-sensitive of the two main psychoactive compounds in psilocyb cubensis	Aug 08 02:55
prurigro	psilocin effects the visual field more, causes time distortions and changes in thinking	Aug 08 02:56
prurigro	though they both hit both directions	Aug 08 02:57
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formic_	time distortions? I wonder if you could do time travel	Aug 08 03:02
formic_	Michiu Kaku says time travel is possible but it would require the energy of a star to make a wormhole	Aug 08 03:04
msb_	formic_: If you try it, start with an amount that everyone says is too small to do anything. Wait the onset time, and if it has no effect, take maybe twice as much.	Aug 08 03:04
formic_	msb_ what mushrooms?	Aug 08 03:05
msb_	formic_: You seem to be a little, shall we say... intense. You don't want to get in a bad way.	Aug 08 03:06
formic_	msb_ lol	Aug 08 03:06
formic_	msb_ I've tried mushrooms over 5 years ago	Aug 08 03:06
msb_	Far as I know, all the psilocybe type mushrooms have the same effect. Somewhat different potencies though. I don't know the details.	Aug 08 03:07
msb_	I always used small doses of anything myself, even pot. I'm kinda freaky too.	Aug 08 03:08
formic_	I watched the first mr bean movie on mushrooms	Aug 08 03:09
formic_	jeez that was trippy	Aug 08 03:09
prurigro	formic_, how do you know time is linear at all?	Aug 08 03:09
formic_	prurigro: who says it is	Aug 08 03:09
prurigro	beyond our memories recording stuff in a certain direction	Aug 08 03:09
prurigro	well	Aug 08 03:09
prurigro	if its not, then we're already time travelling	Aug 08 03:09
formic_	prurigro: thats in our mind	Aug 08 03:09
prurigro	we just happen to only remember in a particular direction	Aug 08 03:09
formic_	deja vu?	Aug 08 03:11
prurigro	woah, I'm keanu reeves	Aug 08 03:11
formic_	lol	Aug 08 03:12
formic_	hes immortal	Aug 08 03:12
msb_	I watched Magical Mystery Tour on some cannabis extract I had. OMG!	Aug 08 03:12
msb_	I may still be watching it!	Aug 08 03:12
formic_	magical mystery tour?	Aug 08 03:12
msb_	Beatles	Aug 08 03:12
formic_	oh lol	Aug 08 03:13
msb_	old fart, remember?	Aug 08 03:13
formic_	those guys were tripping on something	Aug 08 03:13
msb_	They sure were!	Aug 08 03:13
formic_	I think a lot of the 80s comedy movies were the result of some type of drugs	Aug 08 03:13
msb_	So was the Apple computer company, in the beginning.	Aug 08 03:14
formic_	as far as Jobs goes yeah	Aug 08 03:14
msb_	Or was it Woz?	Aug 08 03:14
formic_	wozniak might have got high on glue at most	Aug 08 03:14
formic_	it was Jobs, he had the new age mystical stuff going on	Aug 08 03:15
formic_	he went to india and stuff too	Aug 08 03:15
formic_	woz was a straight shooter	Aug 08 03:15
msb_	The simple digital circuit in the Apple 2 series to generate color TV signals was very clever.	Aug 08 03:17
formic_	yes it was	Aug 08 03:17
formic_	a clever hack	Aug 08 03:17
formic_	woz is friends with mitnick now	Aug 08 03:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] DE(E)SU - Liberté Linux http://goo.gl/v8VKM #gnulinux #distros #privacy also https://tails.boum.org/		Aug 08 03:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ArtistX - Audio Graphic Video #Multimedia Linux http://goo.gl/Q1yv9 #gnulinux #distros		Aug 08 03:21
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msb_	Speaking of Keanu Reeves, _Constantine_ is a must-see. Really great!	Aug 08 03:25
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0q9t7Vap4w&feature=related	Aug 08 03:29
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DaemonFC	Mitt Romney stuffed the ballot box in Nevada	Aug 08 03:30
DaemonFC	and he fucked up because there are more ballots than registered Republicans	Aug 08 03:30
DaemonFC	oops	Aug 08 03:30
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formic_	DaemonFC: what if Obama stuffed the box to incriminate Romney	Aug 08 03:47
DaemonFC	or worse	Aug 08 03:49
DaemonFC	stuff the boxes so that he could run against Romney	Aug 08 03:49
DaemonFC	If you were Obama, would YOU want to run against Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, or Mitt Romney?	Aug 08 03:50
DaemonFC	you hear people say "It's too bad Santorum didn't get nominated" or "We need Ron Paul"	Aug 08 03:50
DaemonFC	but you never hear anyone say that they like Mitt Romney	Aug 08 03:50
formic_	oh it was a republican vs republican vote thing?	Aug 08 03:50
DaemonFC	the warmest it gets is "I'll hold my nose and vote for him"	Aug 08 03:51
DaemonFC	so he's not firing up his base, so he will probably lose	Aug 08 03:51
formic_	Ron Paul is awesome	Aug 08 03:51
DaemonFC	formic_: Yeah, party primaries	Aug 08 03:51
DaemonFC	Indiana has open primaries and you don't register with a party	Aug 08 03:51
DaemonFC	so I voted as a Republican this year and picked Ron Paul	Aug 08 03:52
DaemonFC	I'll end up voting for Obama though because Mitt Romney is a poison pill	Aug 08 03:52
DaemonFC	I think that he's just a stand-in because we have to have an election	Aug 08 03:52
DaemonFC	Obama can antagonize him because he's rich and get away with it because most people are not rich and despise people who are	Aug 08 03:54
DaemonFC	especially when they became rich the way Romney did	Aug 08 03:54
DaemonFC	Obama can keep talking about Romney's taxes and as long as Romney doesn't release them, people will assume he either did something illegal or found a ridiculous loophole	Aug 08 03:55
DaemonFC	If he does release them, and he did do something illegal, he'll lose	Aug 08 03:55
DaemonFC	if he does release them and found a ridiculous loophole, it will be an embarrassment, but he might survive it	Aug 08 03:56
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DaemonFC	if he's just obscenely rich, people already know that, so there would be no point in not releasing them	Aug 08 03:56
DaemonFC	so we know he paid no taxes and got away with it somehow	Aug 08 03:57
DaemonFC	the only question is was it an outrageous loophole or something illegal	Aug 08 03:57
DaemonFC	something illegal is doubtful because he's been audited by the IRS	Aug 08 03:57
DaemonFC	most likely it's just an outrageous loophole	Aug 08 03:58
DaemonFC	so, he should release them right now if that is the case and he still has three months for it to blow over	Aug 08 03:58
DaemonFC	he might even be able to turn it around and say "I know the tax code very well, and as president I will fix it"	Aug 08 03:58
DaemonFC	by not releasing them, people will assume the worst	Aug 08 03:59
DaemonFC	so I'd release them now if I was him and give it three months to blow over or try to spin it into a perverse qualification	Aug 08 03:59
alexei	hi all.	Aug 08 03:59
DaemonFC	formic_: he's an idiot and he's letting Obama walk all over him	Aug 08 03:59
alexei	there used to be very positive news about Russia adopting Free and Open Source software	Aug 08 03:59
DaemonFC	and that's why he will lose	Aug 08 04:00
msb_	alexei: Hi! Are you in Russia?	Aug 08 04:00
alexei	I'm Russian outside of Russia, but reading all the news	Aug 08 04:01
alexei	so, there used to be this guy Ilya Massikh,, Deputy Minister in Ministry of Telecom and Mass Communications	Aug 08 04:01
msb_	He was pro-FOSS?	Aug 08 04:02
alexei	yeah. he was pushing for Open Source platform in Russia. In May 2012 he left the ministry because his opinion was in conflict the Minister of TMC	Aug 08 04:02
alexei	Here is an article about this conflict^ http://www.vedomosti.ru/tech/news/2215368/russkij_linux_pod_voprosom In Russian, of course :)	Aug 08 04:03
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msb_	Who was probably being paid off by Microsoft.	Aug 08 04:03
alexei	Exactly	Aug 08 04:03
alexei	The article actually mentions that the minister was in talks with Microsoft to get a large discount for government's needs	Aug 08 04:04
alexei	and a few days ago government posted an order to implement a mail server	Aug 08 04:06
alexei	mail server has to be based on MS Exchange	Aug 08 04:06
alexei	it is the first line in the requirement	Aug 08 04:06
alexei	and the tender is for 500,000,000 Russian rubles (15 million USD)	Aug 08 04:07
alexei	here is the link to the tender on the government web-site: http://zakupki.gov.ru/pgz/public/action/orders/info/common_info/show?notificationId=3771247	Aug 08 04:07
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alexei	and a link to the technical specs: http://zakupki.gov.ru/pgz/documentdownload?documentId=71085051	Aug 08 04:07
alexei	page 10 says it must be based on MS Exchange	Aug 08 04:08
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msb_	Google Translate works pretty well on the first article. Man, that is disgusting!	Aug 08 04:08
alexei	it is.	Aug 08 04:08
alexei	corrupted goverment is exploited very well by a bad company	Aug 08 04:09
alexei	I don't hear anything about Linux in Russian schools any more	Aug 08 04:09
alexei	maybe this program is going to be abandoned as well, who knows	Aug 08 04:10
schestowitz	msb_: seems like techbytes hitting slashdot woke up the COLA trolls	Aug 08 04:10
sebsebseb	oh schestowitz is still awake	Aug 08 04:10
schestowitz	character assassination against me and tim almost every day there since then	Aug 08 04:10
msb_	It's insane to teach Windows in a computer science course. It's such a bad design! As well as being secret	Aug 08 04:11
schestowitz	sebsebseb: yes, I cover up for a collague, observing some clusters overnight	Aug 08 04:11
sebsebseb	oh	Aug 08 04:11
schestowitz	very rare	Aug 08 04:11
schestowitz	a few times a year	Aug 08 04:11
sebsebseb	oh ok	Aug 08 04:11
alexei	btw, another topic	Aug 08 04:11
schestowitz	easy money	Aug 08 04:11
alexei	there used to be CS competitions in Russian and Ukrainian schools	Aug 08 04:12
sebsebseb	yeah watching servers	Aug 08 04:12
sebsebseb	that they are ok	Aug 08 04:12
sebsebseb	all night	Aug 08 04:12
sebsebseb	whilst being on IRC	Aug 08 04:12
schestowitz	alexei: what do you make of Russia Today>?\	Aug 08 04:12
alexei	Russia Today is pro-governmental news source	Aug 08 04:12
alexei	paid by russian government	Aug 08 04:12
msb_	schestowitz: Roy, if its not too much trouble, you should resume posting your stuff to COLA. As it is, the posts of the Microsoft psychopath astroturfers are now outnumbering those of the Linux folks 2 or 3 to 1!	Aug 08 04:13
alexei	not sure what you want to ask about it	Aug 08 04:13
alexei	as for competitions, now they are frequently replaced with MS Office skills competitions.	Aug 08 04:13
alexei	very sad.	Aug 08 04:13
msb_	Agghh!	Aug 08 04:14
msb_	Russia Today broadcasts some good stuff, like 9/11 research.	Aug 08 04:14
schestowitz	alexei: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_in_Russia	Aug 08 04:15
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schestowitz	msb_: maybe I will	Aug 08 04:15
alexei	yeah, I 've read that already :)	Aug 08 04:15
schestowitz	I also want to release new episodes more often	Aug 08 04:15
schestowitz	Tim has been busy, he's OK with me carrying on in the mean time	Aug 08 04:15
alexei	Thanks for great job that you're doing guys	Aug 08 04:15
msb_	schestowitz: Your info was the best stuff in there! And good quantity too!	Aug 08 04:16
schestowitz	I have some more free time now	Aug 08 04:19
schestowitz	I may use it for either activity	Aug 08 04:19
msb_	alexei: Well, anyone in Russia knowledgeable in computers will use Linux even if it's not adopted by the government.	Aug 08 04:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] InternetEvolution: Craigslist, Once the Agent of Change, Now Fights Against It http://www.ur1.ca/9wu22 !copyright #SayItIsntSo		Aug 08 04:19
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msb_	I'd think Putin would have more sense though. He's standing up to the US in other ways.	Aug 08 04:20
msb_	schestowitz: If you can just send your stuff to COLA programmatically that would be fine. It's so bad in there now, no glitch that came through could hurt it any.	Aug 08 04:23
schestowitz	no. I meber script postings, it's unethical	Aug 08 04:24
schestowitz	*never	Aug 08 04:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Adam J. Manley http://ur1.ca/9wu33		Aug 08 04:24
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msb_	COLA is even getting spam for movie stars pictures from India, and antisemitic, nazi, and anti-gay crap.	Aug 08 04:26
msb_	schestowitz: and 2/3 of the articles in there are totally unethical -- lies about Linux, and personal attacks -- largely obscenities -- about its users and creators!	Aug 08 04:27
msb_	schestowitz: When you were posting there before, everyone thought it was scripted anyhow.	Aug 08 04:28
DaemonFC	Faces Nooks	Aug 08 04:28
DaemonFC	You are obviously a product of our public school system.	Aug 08 04:28
DaemonFC	If you had a wallet with $500 in it, would you stand a better chance of having it returned at a Jay Z concert or a Mormon/Christian/Jewish/Baptist convention?	Aug 08 04:28
DaemonFC	DaemonFC	Aug 08 04:28
DaemonFC	If I had $500 and the only two things I could spend it on were a Jay-Z concert or a religious institution, I'd burn it.	Aug 08 04:28
msb_	DaemonFC: If it's a Mormon convention is Romney there?	Aug 08 04:29
DaemonFC	in his magic Moron underwear	Aug 08 04:30
DaemonFC	I am pissed at the post office.	Aug 08 04:31
DaemonFC	They used to just put the key to a package container box into your PO box if you had a package to pick up.	Aug 08 04:31
msb_	And now you have to wait in line and prove you're not a terrorist?	Aug 08 04:32
DaemonFC	Now you have a slip that says to pick up the package the next time they're open	Aug 08 04:32
DaemonFC	so unless you make it to the post office between 8 AM and 5 PM Mon-Fri or 8 AM to Noon on Saturday, you can't get the packages you had delivered there	Aug 08 04:32
DaemonFC	and if I have them send packages to my apartment, they leave them at the wrong door	Aug 08 04:33
DaemonFC	or the neighbors steal them	Aug 08 04:33
DaemonFC	which is part of the reason I got a PO box to begin with	Aug 08 04:33
DaemonFC	also, the mail carriers sometimes deliver stuff to the wrong house	Aug 08 04:33
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DaemonFC	sometimes on a different street	Aug 08 04:33
DaemonFC	I just don't trust them at all	Aug 08 04:34
DaemonFC	when you send mail, you shouldn't have to wonder if it will ever get to the person you sent it to	Aug 08 04:34
schestowitz	msb_: I think about making episode 7 about techbytes and the story behind it	Aug 08 04:34
schestowitz	*75	Aug 08 04:34
DaemonFC	and of course the only way to make sure they don't misdeliver it is to get a PO box	Aug 08 04:34
msb_	schestowitz: Perhaps not as interesting as interviewing RMS or other GNU Linux personalities.	Aug 08 04:35
schestowitz	I can make it short	Aug 08 04:36
schestowitz	like 15 minutes, I have a rough idea of what I want to cover	Aug 08 04:36
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schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Possible_TechBytes_Guests	Aug 08 04:38
msb_	schestowitz: Maybe make it about techrights too.	Aug 08 04:38
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schestowitz	msb_: ok	Aug 08 04:38
DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 08 04:39
DaemonFC	Ron Paul's campaign manager calls Romney supporters the "Romulans"	Aug 08 04:39
sebsebseb	schestowitz: the way you updated the version number, with the Stallman stuff, hmm	Aug 08 04:43
sebsebseb	upped above not updated	Aug 08 04:43
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msb_	I was going to write in Ron Paul, but Romney is turning out to be so evil...	Aug 08 04:44
DaemonFC	Obama!	Aug 08 04:45
msb_	But I get such a bad feeling from Obomber.	Aug 08 04:45
DaemonFC	at least we know what we have	Aug 08 04:45
DaemonFC	Romney is misleading by obscuring everything he can	Aug 08 04:45
DaemonFC	he won't talk about his governorship of Massachusetts	Aug 08 04:46
DaemonFC	that's because Massachusetts is still trying to undo the damage he did while he was their Governor	Aug 08 04:46
DaemonFC	The whole "Land of 1,000 fees" thing is just hilarious	Aug 08 04:46
msb_	Maybe he's been holding back. He turne out to be so different than his pre-election bullshit -- pro-Palestinian professor friend, Simon & Garfunkel song, leftist political group network...	Aug 08 04:47
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msb_	turned	Aug 08 04:47
DaemonFC	you can raise taxes and claim to have never raised taxes by implementing "fees"	Aug 08 04:47
DaemonFC	what a crock	Aug 08 04:47
DaemonFC	it's a tax and you're calling it a fee	Aug 08 04:47
msb_	And he's been murdering people by the thousands, and gave the banks 28 Trillion dollars!	Aug 08 04:47
DaemonFC	Romney will just give them more	Aug 08 04:48
DaemonFC	and cut taxes for his 1% friends	Aug 08 04:48
msb_	and obscuring? The birth certificate, the 70 social security numbers, nobody remembers him from university when he was supposed to be there, CIA connections, etc.	Aug 08 04:48
DaemonFC	if we're going to let a Mormon in, then all bets are off	Aug 08 04:49
msb_	I think Obomber is the Antichrist!	Aug 08 04:49
DaemonFC	next it will be a Scientologist	Aug 08 04:49
DaemonFC	msb_: If that's true, you should vote for Obama	Aug 08 04:49
msb_	He may not even be human. Has anyone checked for a zipper down the back of his neck?	Aug 08 04:50
DaemonFC	don't Christians want the end of the world so they can have Jesus turn the Earth into a magical paradise?	Aug 08 04:50
msb_	DaemonFC: Why?	Aug 08 04:50
msb_	I'm a	Aug 08 04:50
DaemonFC	it's not hard to see why our lifestyles are so wasteful and people are bringing kids into the world they're consuming and destroying	Aug 08 04:50
msb_	I'm a Wiccan, not a Christian.	Aug 08 04:51
DaemonFC	they honestly believe that Jesus will fix everything at some point	Aug 08 04:51
DaemonFC	if you think someone else will clean up your mess, you have no motivation to not make a mess	Aug 08 04:52
msb_	Anyhow, I don't think Jesus will be coming back. He wasn't treated very nicely when he was here before.	Aug 08 04:52
DaemonFC	so this is why religious people are so radically destructive	Aug 08 04:52
msb_	Also because the bibble is severely evil, and the god they worship is a genocidal psychopath.	Aug 08 04:53
msb_	little things like that	Aug 08 04:53
formic_	msb_ srs about wicca?	Aug 08 04:59
formic_	i've always been curious of wicca, casting spells and shit	Aug 08 05:00
msb_	Sure! A very pro-human organic religion. Female deity. Moral rule: Do what you want if it harms none.	Aug 08 05:01
formic_	are there harmful spells?	Aug 08 05:01
msb_	Casting spells isn't the main thing. It's communing with nature, and your inner self and other people.	Aug 08 05:02
formic_	I'd put a curse on someone to make them rich.	Aug 08 05:02
formic_	cause then it would backfire on myself too right	Aug 08 05:03
msb_	I think the rule is, whatever you wish on someone else comes back at you three times as strong.	Aug 08 05:03
formic_	interesting	Aug 08 05:04
formic_	msb_ I wish you had a million dollars	Aug 08 05:04
msb_	Doesn't seem like that would be a curse.	Aug 08 05:04
formic_	money corrupts	Aug 08 05:04
formic_	turns people evil	Aug 08 05:04
msb_	I think magick is a way of releasing your true psychic abilities, that everybody has.	Aug 08 05:05
formic_	seriousness aside	Aug 08 05:05
formic_	any recommended reading?	Aug 08 05:05
msb_	Yep. Books by Starhawk. She's the greatest!	Aug 08 05:05
formic_	on this topic	Aug 08 05:05
msb_	Also The Chalice and the Blade, by Riane Eisler.	Aug 08 05:06
msb_	yep	Aug 08 05:06
formic_	there probably would be magick if it weren't for the dark ages	Aug 08 05:08
msb_	Starhawk is very good on Wicca, and Eisler on Goddess culture in genereal, which was nearly ubiquitous until the Jews, Greeks, Romans and others came along with domination, male supremacy, mass murder, exploitation, etc.	Aug 08 05:09
formic_	John Dee might have even opened up a wormhole to another parallel dimension	Aug 08 05:09
msb_	general	Aug 08 05:09
formic_	is it 50s wicca or like real original stuff	Aug 08 05:11
msb_	Wicca has been around for thousands of years in various forms. It's Goddess religion, which came before Judeo-Christian-Islamic religion, and was much better.	Aug 08 05:13
formic_	there was a modern revival, how does it compare with the original?	Aug 08 05:14
formic_	a massive amount of texts were destroyed	Aug 08 05:14
formic_	which I'm betting are in some masonic archive somewhere	Aug 08 05:15
msb_	http://pastebin.com/FgrvYPHb	Aug 08 05:17
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formic_	good quote	Aug 08 05:19
msb_	He was a wonderful guy! Used the Sacred Herb, too.	Aug 08 05:20
msb_	I don't think Wicca relied on any secret documents, like alchemy.	Aug 08 05:21
msb_	The magick and rituals were just a way of getting people into the right state of consciousness so that their inner self and psychic powers were free.	Aug 08 05:23
formic_	the druids didn't write anything down	Aug 08 05:24
msb_	And to forget the problems of daily life and commune with the Earth and the Universe.	Aug 08 05:25
msb_	and the Lady who created us.	Aug 08 05:25
formic_	have you heard of Michiu Kaku?	Aug 08 05:26
msb_	Sure.	Aug 08 05:26
formic_	ever heard or seen any of his interviews or lectures?	Aug 08 05:26
msb_	Haven't listened to him for years. What's he up to?	Aug 08 05:26
formic_	talking about the future and stuff	Aug 08 05:27
formic_	i got a bunch of stuff he did on Coast to Coast	Aug 08 05:27
formic_	he was saying time travel would be possible for a level 2 civilization because it required the power output of a star	Aug 08 05:27
formic_	even then, its the past in a parallel universe	Aug 08 05:28
formic_	so you could go back in time and kill your parents	Aug 08 05:29
formic_	no paradox	Aug 08 05:29
msb_	Hey, here's another good movie: The Man from Earth (2007) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/	Aug 08 05:30
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formic_	Ever seen Sliders?	Aug 08 05:31
msb_	Long time ago.	Aug 08 05:31
formic_	awesome show	Aug 08 05:31
formic_	I've had a quantum science binge lately	Aug 08 05:31
msb_	If only she hadn't oiled the hinge of that gate!	Aug 08 05:31
formic_	eh?	Aug 08 05:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Childhood's End : A.C. Clarke : 9780345347954 http://goo.gl/uUPtO #scifi #books		Aug 08 05:34
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msb_	Didn't they think they'd gotten back to their home universe, except that the gate didn't squeak, so they thought it wasn't the right one, and they jumped out again? But it was the right one. Somebody had just oiled the hinge so the gate didn't squeak anymore.	Aug 08 05:36
msb_	And they never found their way back again.	Aug 08 05:36
DaemonFC	06 August 2012 (NBC greedwashing show)	Aug 08 05:39
DaemonFC	NBC broadcast a two-hour greedwashing show which did nothing but praise JP Morgan Chase for giving to charity.	Aug 08 05:39
DaemonFC	(from stallman.org)	Aug 08 05:39
DaemonFC	at least people don't trust NBC to be neutral	Aug 08 05:40
DaemonFC	PBS airs puff pieces paid for by Walmart and oil companies	Aug 08 05:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Ask Slashdot: What's the Most Depressing Sci-fi You've Ever Read? - Slashdot http://goo.gl/V5rMw #books #scifi		Aug 08 05:41
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msb_	Sci-Fi author Keith Laumer wrote three novels about parallel- worlds travel -- the Imperium series. Excellent!	Aug 08 05:45
msb_	They traveled by means of the Maxoni-Cocini effect, discovered in 1897 (unfortunately in a different universe).	Aug 08 05:47
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formic_	ohhhhh yeah	Aug 08 05:58
formic_	right after that they end up on a planet with naked women	Aug 08 06:00
formic_	I liked the one where they got oil rich but only had a few minutes to enjoy it	Aug 08 06:01
schestowitz	http://www.evanscycles.com/products/dawes/red-feather-womens-hybrid-bike-ec022680	Aug 08 06:06
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formic_	msb_: It's nice to have a conversation without attacking each other	Aug 08 06:22
msb_	Yep	Aug 08 06:25
formic_	I'll keep up the good natured discussion	Aug 08 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] TODAY'S NEWS: Linux Foundation Announces First-Ever Korea Linux Forum: bit.ly/P4T9lj #linux		Aug 08 06:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. @Ovigia @Theru @Laurelrusswurm @Thistleweb #aewiu		Aug 08 06:26
msb_	That's the natural human way!	Aug 08 06:27
formic_	:)	Aug 08 06:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Progressive Mind » Glenn Greenwald: Unrestrained Savagery : Information Clearing House: ICH http://goo.gl/9dlS8		Aug 08 06:38
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MinceR	011051 < prurigro> MinceR, btw- thoughts on the firefox phone?	Aug 08 07:01
MinceR	i'm interested to see how it goes	Aug 08 07:01
MinceR	but i wouldn't be interested myself in an html/js-only phone (if that's what it is)	Aug 08 07:02
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DaemonFC	I'm actually in favor of bringing back pay phones and getting rid of cell phones	Aug 08 07:10
DaemonFC	pay phones were much cheaper and the police state couldn't use them to track everyone very effectively	Aug 08 07:11
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 08 07:11
MinceR	pay phones can't be used to be on call, and in general to receive calls	Aug 08 07:12
MinceR	though one could use a pager	Aug 08 07:12
MinceR	but then i'd rather use a cell phone system that's based on some aspects of the pager system	Aug 08 07:13
MinceR	(that is, incoming calls are announced in a larger area and the called terminal can then announce its location, if the user chooses to take the call)	Aug 08 07:13
MinceR	or maybe someone has a better idea, based on cryptography or something	Aug 08 07:14
DaemonFC	most pay phones in the US had the number of the phone listed on the phone itself	Aug 08 07:14
DaemonFC	and you could call it	Aug 08 07:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @rozzin !q "Have you ever thought that radical ideas threaten institutions, then become institutions, and in turn reject radica http: ...		Aug 08 07:14
MinceR	sure, but you won't be near a pay phone when someone wants to call you	Aug 08 07:15
MinceR	and they won't know which one to call anyway	Aug 08 07:15
DaemonFC	so?	Aug 08 07:15
DaemonFC	who says I want to be reached?	Aug 08 07:15
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 08 07:15
MinceR	well, i do want to be reached	Aug 08 07:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So now you can lose real money on Facebook. Limited to 18+ and UK only ATM. The #fail is at http://www.jackpotjoyf... http://b1t.it/bTmY		Aug 08 07:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Lon Seidman http://ur1.ca/9wv0m		Aug 08 08:04
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DaemonFC	MinceR: Why do people want to pay to be on the Dysfunctional Friends and Family & Telemarketers Calling Plan, anyway?	Aug 08 08:05
MinceR	i don't know what that is	Aug 08 08:05
DaemonFC	having a phone	Aug 08 08:05
MinceR	it's not about that	Aug 08 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolaborg Now @heiseonlineuk is also covering today's release of #Kolab 3.0 alpha http://bit.ly/NhkTzK		Aug 08 08:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 120807 - http://bit.ly/OLhLLW yesterday's tweets as a single Web page		Aug 08 08:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] not an example to follow, I think		Aug 08 08:09
DaemonFC	MinceR: the worst part about cell phones is that the company always figures out how to take a little more from you	Aug 08 08:11
DaemonFC	like when they sell you "minutes" and it's impossible to know exactly how many you'll use	Aug 08 08:11
DaemonFC	so you buy more than you think you'll need	Aug 08 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] "Name your shills," judge orders #Oracle, #Google - http://bit.ly/OLig8P whoa, interesting; wonder what we'll learn?		Aug 08 08:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Sibelius is in crisis! - http://bit.ly/MNBxpR worst piece of sw I ever bought (not through choice); support #freesw - http://bit.ly/NCy7of		Aug 08 08:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ludlam slams #AU government over #TPP - http://bit.ly/MwtzFZ more pressure (v @Asher_Wolf)		Aug 08 08:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Here’s how the #BBC is stomping the competition for Olympics coverage - http://tnw.co/Ncimc1 in praise of public service broadcasting		Aug 08 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Over 1,000,000 Torrents of Downloadable Books, Music, and Movies - http://bit.ly/O2bKOZ more wonders from #internetarchive		Aug 08 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How Do You Save a Dying Language? Crowdsource It - http://bit.ly/OYG5MP "site for documenting and learning rare languages" (v @mbauwens)		Aug 08 08:43
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DaemonFC	there's a white supremacist that lives about 8 miles from me who has his own website that looks like something out of 1997	Aug 08 08:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] SCO files for chapter 7 (Groklaw) http://ur1.ca/9wv6y		Aug 08 08:46
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DaemonFC	complete with frames, tables, and HTML 2	Aug 08 08:47
DaemonFC	some of his writing is mildly amusing	Aug 08 08:48
DaemonFC	he goes on a tear against Emperor Bloomberg	Aug 08 08:49
DaemonFC	though, not for the same reasons I would	Aug 08 08:49
DaemonFC	I've often wondered how His Majesty stays in office	Aug 08 08:49
DaemonFC	the left hates him, the right hates him	Aug 08 08:49
DaemonFC	you'd think someone would get rid of that fuck	Aug 08 08:49
DaemonFC	the right hates him because he wants to ban guns, and control the dietary and smoking habits of His Subjects :P	Aug 08 08:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Eight Fallacies about #Growth - http://bit.ly/QEnZRn great post: "does growth any longer make us richer, or is it now making us poorer?"		Aug 08 08:54
DaemonFC	the left hates him because his NYPD Stormtroopers harass people and pat them down "at random", and by "at random", I mean 90% of the time they're black or Hispanic	Aug 08 08:54
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*DaemonFC lines schestowitz up for an enhanced patdown with full body cavity search, ala Bloomberg		Aug 08 09:01
DaemonFC	oh wait, you're not black	Aug 08 09:02
DaemonFC	you're free to go	Aug 08 09:02
DaemonFC	but watch that accent, or next time I'm planting drugs on you	Aug 08 09:02
DaemonFC	B-)	Aug 08 09:02
MinceR	091118 < DaemonFC> MinceR: the worst part about cell phones is that the company always figures out how to take a little more from you	Aug 08 09:02
MinceR	that's not an attribute of the technology	Aug 08 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent troll #IntellectualVentures seeks “VP of Global Good” - http://bit.ly/NnqxPi they may be evil, but at least with a sense of humour		Aug 08 09:03
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DaemonFC	well, they are getting rid of pay phones so more people will be pressured to buy cell phones	Aug 08 09:03
DaemonFC	so you go from spending maybe $1 a month on pay phone calls to spending at least $60 a month in cell phone bills	Aug 08 09:04
DaemonFC	they always figure out how to take more from you	Aug 08 09:04
DaemonFC	and with the income contractions that have been hitting the average American at the same time, people are as ill-equipped to deal with things like this as they ever were	Aug 08 09:05
DaemonFC	and while putting food on the table is harder than it has been since the Great Depression, people are being seduced with iPhones, which are the most expensive cell phone ever and basically require you to buy a data plan too	Aug 08 09:05
DaemonFC	and people wonder why they are broke	Aug 08 09:06
MinceR	no, they're getting rid of pay phones because nobody is using them	Aug 08 09:06
MinceR	and they cost money to maintain	Aug 08 09:06
MinceR	also, i spend less than $60 a month on cell phone bills	Aug 08 09:07
MinceR	and i even have a data plan	Aug 08 09:07
MinceR	then again, usian telcos might be a lot worse than european ones	Aug 08 09:07
DaemonFC	well, you aren't living in the same Crapitalist system I am	Aug 08 09:07
DaemonFC	I'm sure mine is worse	Aug 08 09:07
MinceR	still capitalist...	Aug 08 09:07
MinceR	even though the nazis are working on changing that	Aug 08 09:07
MinceR	the free market is already a distant memory in hungary	Aug 08 09:08
DaemonFC	yeah, then you get protected monopolies	Aug 08 09:08
DaemonFC	and bid rigging	Aug 08 09:08
DaemonFC	and price fixing	Aug 08 09:08
MinceR	i think they haven't touched the telcos much yet	Aug 08 09:08
DaemonFC	and then you're paying a minimum of $60 a month for cell phone service	Aug 08 09:08
MinceR	just some random extra tax on them	Aug 08 09:08
DaemonFC	oh, the feds love to tax cell phones	Aug 08 09:08
DaemonFC	they add fees to cover 911, OK I understand that....	Aug 08 09:09
DaemonFC	emergency services call centers cost money to operate	Aug 08 09:09
DaemonFC	$1.50 isn't too bad	Aug 08 09:09
MinceR	plus here the barbaric people were damaging pay phones even back when they were actually used	Aug 08 09:09
DaemonFC	but then they hit you with another one that's like $3	Aug 08 09:09
DaemonFC	and they call it the Federal Universal Service Fee	Aug 08 09:09
DaemonFC	and guess what that pays for....	Aug 08 09:10
DaemonFC	providing free cell and landline phones to people the government says are too poor to buy their own	Aug 08 09:10
DaemonFC	you know, that fat bitch on Disability that you see putting around at Walmart	Aug 08 09:10
DaemonFC	she gets a free cell phone because you are being assessed a fee on yours	Aug 08 09:11
DaemonFC	then of course, the 7% Indiana sales tax applies to cell phone plans	Aug 08 09:11
DaemonFC	so the $60 a month plan turns into $70 a month from the taxes and freeloader fees	Aug 08 09:12
DaemonFC	but then if you want a data plan, that will be at least another $20	Aug 08 09:12
DaemonFC	possibly more, depending on HOW MUCH data	Aug 08 09:12
DaemonFC	oh they love nickel and diming you for that	Aug 08 09:12
DaemonFC	so the $60 plan becomes the $100+ plan	Aug 08 09:12
DaemonFC	way too god damned much for a fucking phone	Aug 08 09:13
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 08 09:13
DaemonFC	where did this come from? federally protected monopolies and non-competition contracts	Aug 08 09:14
DaemonFC	there might be 3-4 different companies in your area, but they all work out to be about the same price	Aug 08 09:14
DaemonFC	and so there's no particular reason to favor one over the next	Aug 08 09:15
DaemonFC	the monopoly is not on whose company is billing you for the service, but what company owns the cell towers in what areas	Aug 08 09:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1849699	Aug 08 09:16
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #UrbanTerror 4.2 Beta Released for #Linux http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/08/urban-terror-42-beta-released-for-linux.html very nice game, enjoyable	Aug 08 09:16
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schestowitz	"@Miller - you are right, but it's kind of limited when you have squarish-like map"	Aug 08 09:16
DaemonFC	http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/dtw_mitt_promises_worse.htm	Aug 08 09:19
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DaemonFC	You know Willard is bad when the Nazis tell you he will be worse than Obama	Aug 08 09:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Patent troll #IntellectualVentures seeks “VP of Global Good” - http://bit.ly/NnqxPi they may be evil, but at least with a ...		Aug 08 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Over 1,000,000 Torrents of Downloadable Books, Music, and Movies - http://bit.ly/O2bKOZ more wonders from #internetarchive		Aug 08 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Here’s how the #BBC is stomping the competition for Olympics coverage - http://tnw.co/Ncimc1 in praise of public service b ...		Aug 08 09:23
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DaemonFC	http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/pivetta_julia.htm	Aug 08 09:34
DaemonFC	LMAO	Aug 08 09:34
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DaemonFC	"Julia finds that suitors are few and far between for semi-literate one-footed women living with their mothers. Access to taxpayer-funded contraception becomes a moot point."	Aug 08 09:34
MinceR	lol	Aug 08 09:34
*DaemonFC will finish reading this when he stops laughing so hard		Aug 08 09:36
DaemonFC	"Julia eventually meets a young man and gets pregnant. Knowing that government largesse will cover her maternal care, paid leave, and assistance for her dependent child, her boyfriend realizes he's not abandoning them to destitution if he shirks his familial responsibilities. Neither Julia nor the baby ever sees the dad again."	Aug 08 09:36
DaemonFC	well, that goes on now....	Aug 08 09:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #eBay Sucks: Deletes Customer Accounts With Perfect Feedback/Reputation, Offers No Solution http://identi.ca/url/73087882		Aug 08 09:38
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DaemonFC	personally, I don't really care if the government mandates free contraception, as I won't reproduce anyway	Aug 08 09:41
DaemonFC	I guess I'm in favor of it if we absolutely must keep the current welfare system in place because the contraception is cheaper than 18 years of the state seizing my money to pay for another person's child	Aug 08 09:42
DaemonFC	there's no such thing as "They decided to fuck, make them suffer through trying to pay for it"	Aug 08 09:43
DaemonFC	that's "cruel"	Aug 08 09:43
DaemonFC	so instead of that, the government just seizes the paycheck of the people who work for a living and are only barely making ends meet anyway	Aug 08 09:43
MinceR	life is cruel. :>	Aug 08 09:44
DaemonFC	because kicking a young man who makes not a lot of money while he's already down to reward some female baby making machine is "not cruel"	Aug 08 09:44
DaemonFC	well, the welfare state that tries to make sure nobody fails, even the ones that try really hard, drags EVERYONE down eventually	Aug 08 09:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ODAY, for the first time in about 8 years, I wanted to place a bid in eBay UK. I had already bought about 17 items ther http://ur1.ca/9wwga		Aug 08 09:46
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DaemonFC	I mean, the people who have kids when they are teenagers or twenty somethings are not the sharpest tools in the shed in the first place	Aug 08 09:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Digg Stabs All Users in the Back, Deletes All Their Content http://identi.ca/url/73087989 NYC slackers delete what Silocon Valley made		Aug 08 09:49
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DaemonFC	MinceR: This site is hysterical	Aug 08 09:51
DaemonFC	he refers to the Department of Justice as the Ministry of Love	Aug 08 09:51
MinceR	doesn't sound accurate	Aug 08 09:52
DaemonFC	he's being sarcastic	Aug 08 09:53
MinceR	i mean, isn't the Ministry of Love in charge of police and such?	Aug 08 09:53
DaemonFC	at the federal level, yeah	Aug 08 09:54
DaemonFC	directly in control	Aug 08 09:54
DaemonFC	at the state and local levels, yes and no	Aug 08 09:54
DaemonFC	they have to keep an "appearance" of constitutionality to their total control of the state and local police	Aug 08 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Help counter the Cult of Steve Jobs. Go to fsf.org/jobs !fsf #freedom		Aug 08 09:54
DaemonFC	they do this the same way the Feds compel the state and local governments to do anything else	Aug 08 09:55
DaemonFC	MinceR: Want to take a guess?	Aug 08 09:55
DaemonFC	"We have this really large 'grant', but we can't give it to you unless you do everything the Secretary of Homeland Security says"	Aug 08 09:55
DaemonFC	and wouldn't you know it? those huge checks that always cash never fail	Aug 08 09:56
DaemonFC	and your local police department is effectively a branch of the federal government	Aug 08 09:56
DaemonFC	MinceR: The Feds use their taxation power to beat the states senseless and extract gobs of money out of them	Aug 08 09:57
DaemonFC	then if you want any of it back, you do whatever they want	Aug 08 09:57
MinceR	ic	Aug 08 09:57
DaemonFC	programs like Secure Communities never really meets with much resistance anyway, especially in towns like the one I live in where selling a program that deports illegal immigrants is not only not hard, it practically guarantees you'll be re-elected	Aug 08 09:58
DaemonFC	so the mayor of my town gets to cash that check from the Feds and take credit for deporting dozens of illegal immigrants every year	Aug 08 09:59
DaemonFC	of course the Big Check comes with other conditions	Aug 08 09:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Eugenics much? bit.ly/NiMOzc ♻ @Asher_Wolf: Wow. Texas just executed someone with an IQ of 61. Welcome to the 15th century.		Aug 08 09:59
DaemonFC	he implements all of those as well	Aug 08 09:59
DaemonFC	Why is being stupid a defense to Murder?	Aug 08 10:00
MinceR	for all we know, the convict's IQ might have well been irrelevant to the case	Aug 08 10:01
DaemonFC	if we go down that road, you can't execute any criminals because the smarter ones probably wouldn't have gotten caught and so it's unfair to kill off the ones who were too dumb to cover their tracks	Aug 08 10:01
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 10:02
DaemonFC	I don't know how you could plan to murder someone with an IQ of 61	Aug 08 10:02
DaemonFC	an IQ of 61 means you should be shopping for electronics at Walmart	Aug 08 10:02
DaemonFC	or proudly voting for Mitt Romney	Aug 08 10:03
DaemonFC	MinceR: I'm not too frightened by my local police department anyway.	Aug 08 10:04
DaemonFC	If they haven't caught on to my neighbor who has been selling drugs out of her apartment for 5 years now, then they're obviously not good at what they do	Aug 08 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] HE site known as “Digg” did something worse than negligence; it’s destruction. The Digg which Kevin R http://ur1.ca/9wxwi		Aug 08 10:04
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DaemonFC	bureaucratic thugs? sure	Aug 08 10:05
DaemonFC	great at gobbling up tax money? you bet	Aug 08 10:05
DaemonFC	solving crime? maybe if you were speeding	Aug 08 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "After Epic Hack, Apple Suspends Over-the-Phone AppleID Password Resets http://identi.ca/url/73088154 #rbtechnews		Aug 08 10:06
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DaemonFC	http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/	Aug 08 10:07
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DaemonFC	"I find myself wondering why the ruling classes of America are so grindingly antagonistic to religion."	Aug 08 10:07
DaemonFC	Personally? Because they know it's just a means to an end.	Aug 08 10:07
DaemonFC	It's an easy way to manipulate a bunch of stupid people.	Aug 08 10:07
DaemonFC	None of them buy into it. They say they do...	Aug 08 10:08
MinceR	110325 < DaemonFC> or proudly voting for Mitt Romney	Aug 08 10:08
DaemonFC	They say they're a Christian to get into office and they go to a really moderate church once a week to keep appearances up.	Aug 08 10:08
MinceR	or proudly buying apple products ;)	Aug 08 10:08
DaemonFC	That's about it.	Aug 08 10:08
DaemonFC	it's not helping them as much as they think it is	Aug 08 10:09
DaemonFC	regular church attendance in the US is about 40% based on self-reporting in surveys, but there's a discrepancy in there	Aug 08 10:09
DaemonFC	people who don't regularly go to church will often say they do because they think it is expected of them to say they do	Aug 08 10:10
DaemonFC	there have actually been more studies to see how much of an over-reporting this causes	Aug 08 10:10
DaemonFC	in a small town in Ohio back in 2005, 43% said they attended church weekly	Aug 08 10:11
MinceR	if they're so "grindingly antagonistic to religion", why is the usa so damned religious?	Aug 08 10:11
DaemonFC	but when the researchers watched what they actualyl did, the weekly attendance rate was more like 20%	Aug 08 10:11
DaemonFC	the US is not as religious as it appears	Aug 08 10:11
DaemonFC	about half of that is a mirage	Aug 08 10:11
MinceR	cultists are crying wolf	Aug 08 10:11
DaemonFC	the only time church attendance does tend to spike into the actual 40s is right after a MAJOR disaster	Aug 08 10:12
DaemonFC	actual weekly church attendance after September 11, 2001 averaged 47% for about two months	Aug 08 10:12
DaemonFC	then it dropped off again to its normal levels	Aug 08 10:12
DaemonFC	it's popular as a way for people to deal with extreme psychological trauma, but then they burn out again and stop going	Aug 08 10:13
DaemonFC	MinceR: It's about what you'd expect.	Aug 08 10:13
DaemonFC	When people are hurting, they reach for whatever they think will help dull the pain.	Aug 08 10:14
DaemonFC	In this case, believing in god for two months helped them deal with it.	Aug 08 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Who Loves Hadoop? http://identi.ca/url/73088243 #hadoop #opensource		Aug 08 10:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Yay for #MSFT! They made the right choice here. My question: why aren't #Mozilla / #AAPL / #GOOG doing this? http://identi.ca/url/73088244		Aug 08 10:14
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DaemonFC	there's also the rally around the flag effect	Aug 08 10:14
DaemonFC	George W. Bush's approval rating soared into the 90s for a while	Aug 08 10:15
DaemonFC	it ended at 26% the day he left office	Aug 08 10:15
DaemonFC	George W. Bush holds the record for most popular president and most hated	Aug 08 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Στην παραλία του Μπά(χα)λου « //ΠαραλληλοΓράφος//" from http://identi.ca/url/73088263		Aug 08 10:16
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DaemonFC	the record for most popular was caused by a brief period after 9/11 when nobody was willing to say anything bad about him	Aug 08 10:16
DaemonFC	and the most hated part was where he would have been all along if not for 9/11	Aug 08 10:16
DaemonFC	also, probably one-term	Aug 08 10:17
DaemonFC	the massive military spending and recruiting hid a lot of the fact that the bottom had already fallen out of the economy well before 2008	Aug 08 10:17
DaemonFC	MinceR: I just have no respect for Christians because of the overwhelming hypocrisy.	Aug 08 10:18
DaemonFC	selectively practicing their religion as so many of them do	Aug 08 10:19
DaemonFC	of course it would be even more horrible if they actually practiced it as written	Aug 08 10:19
DaemonFC	so we should be glad they don't	Aug 08 10:20
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear Google. I have activated 2-factor auth and like it. But I also visited my account page and went through the list ... http://b1t.it/bTpu		Aug 08 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to The Hackney Gentrification Song. Great title.		Aug 08 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] #Hadopi is a failure and a waste of money, says French Culture minister http://ur1.ca/9wz80 #3strikes		Aug 08 10:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Monsanto wins $1b verdict on RoundUp Ready Seed Patent - http://bit.ly/Nnxwb4 against DuPont/Pioneer		Aug 08 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] RT @gijs Spain's e-gov centre: concept of sharing and reuse is successful #joinup http://ur1.ca/9wz40		Aug 08 10:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Today ASEAN turns 45. Ten countries, one vision, but much work needs to be done.		Aug 08 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Try this: http://identi.ca/url/73088760		Aug 08 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Intel’s Imad Sousou: Open Cloud Standards will Emerge With More Collaboration http://identi.ca/url/73088872 #linux #fogcomputing		Aug 08 11:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Top Features Of #Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" http://identi.ca/url/73088907 #linux #gnu		Aug 08 11:21
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schestowitz	!google trillion dollar tax havens	Aug 08 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - The $21 trillion dollar tax havens \| http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/528.382791-The-21-trillion-dollar-tax-havens	Aug 08 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - $21 Trillion Dollars in Capital Flight to Tax Havens \| The Big Picture \| http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/07/capital-flight-to-tax-havens/	Aug 08 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Tax haven - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia \| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_haven	Aug 08 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Taking on the tax havens - Inside Story - Al Jazeera English \| http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestory/2012/07/20127248542025672.html	Aug 08 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Trillion Dollar Tax Havens, Inequality and Recession http://identi.ca/url/73088964 very major crimes, but rich people's, so no jail time		Aug 08 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tdforg/@tdforg] RT @floeff #LibreOffice 3.6 released with a wealth of new features and improvements, made by a fantastic and true community: http://wp.m ...		Aug 08 11:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] VIDEO: What really happened in the #Dotcom raid? - http://bit.ly/O2E6Zu what a bunch of bumbling bullies (v @stevejberry) #nz		Aug 08 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The world's biggest thieves own and control our 'elected' ([pre]selected) politicians http://identi.ca/url/73088985		Aug 08 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Golden Crocoduck nominees 2012 http://ur1.ca/9x0a1 #potholer rules - new video		Aug 08 11:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] "Google’s Self-Driving Cars Complete 300K Miles Without Accident, Deemed Ready For Commuting - http://identi.ca/url/73089818 !rbnews		Aug 08 12:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Document Foundation Announces #LibreOffice 3.6 With A Wealth Of New Features And Improvements - http://bit.ly/OZchiR fab & free		Aug 08 12:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] The Arabic #Tor blog, created by @Voulnet, is now live on https://ar-blog.torproject.org/		Aug 08 13:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolaborg Turn your #Thunderbird into a #Kolab client: Version 2.0.2 of SyncKolab was just released. http://bit.ly/Mj035a		Aug 08 13:44
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formic_	05:19 < DaemonFC> of course it would be even more horrible if they actually practiced it as written	Aug 08 14:05
formic_	yeah you would be stoned to death, and not with marijuana	Aug 08 14:05
MinceR	:D	Aug 08 14:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] 104.8 million Android-based smartphones shipped worldwide during second quarter - http://cnet.co/P5snJE "68.1 percent of smartphone market"		Aug 08 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @ObscenityLawyer SIMON WALSH IS NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS. #PornTrial >>only just result; a disgraceful case (v @Asher_Wolf)		Aug 08 14:24
formic_	http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/08/07/230206/sco-group-files-for-chapter-7	Aug 08 14:25
formic_	tee hee	Aug 08 14:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Choisissez @iRail @IanBauters gebruikt hij de iRail API?		Aug 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @IanBauters @Choisissez @iRail De Lijn heeft niet zo graag dat je scrapet. Misschien moeten we gewoon s http://ur1. ...		Aug 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Simon_Gee wait until someone creates a git repo in a google drive dir... /cc @tuinslak		Aug 08 14:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolaborg German news site @prolinux_de is writing about Kolab 3.0 alpha extensively: http://bit.ly/QFdugy		Aug 08 14:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @DavidAllenGreen Really, CPS - you should be better than this. #porntrial #twitterjoketrial >>quite: what a waste of public money...		Aug 08 14:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] "GNOME Developers Lay Out Plans for GNOME OS" -- I thought there was already a GNOME OS, called GNU.		Aug 08 14:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I already manage a few pages. And I saw there was no FOSDEM page. To avoid cybersquatting I created it.		Aug 08 14:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Patent Troll Claims That Showing A Video With A Static Ad Next To It Infringes - http://bit.ly/P5vNMn uh-huh #bonkers		Aug 08 14:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] GNOME Developers Lay Out Plans for GNOME OS - http://bit.ly/MOQ3h1 another one...		Aug 08 14:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[siltaar/@siltaar] !Wikileaks victime d’un DDOS, le site de dons FDNN a aussi été inaccessible ce matin. La situation d’Assange ne s’améliore pas. ur1.ca/9x16c		Aug 08 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And was willing to simply transfer it but it seems to be OK if I stay on it as admin.		Aug 08 15:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MSL - Sol 2 Images - Full Frames - http://bit.ly/RAwQVz pictures of grit and dust...glad I'm not going there for my hols (v @ncruz77)		Aug 08 15:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] News International chief aggrieved at manner of journalist arrests http://goo.gl/JZHWz rofl #NI #scumbags		Aug 08 15:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] "Tuesday's was the 14th arrest of a current or former Sun journalist" funny that the #Sun seem to have missed EVERY one of those stories		Aug 08 15:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] La RATP libère son plan de métro et lance enfin son #OpenData - http://bit.ly/PF8unp that's good #paris #france		Aug 08 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #Sun never treat ANYONE with dignity, they stalk them, invent stories about them, use social engineering to get private info & publish		Aug 08 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] yet when it's their own employees (the criminals), somehow they seem to have discovered the word "dignity" & assume it applies to them		Aug 08 15:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] oh wait, don't they have a theme about the rights of criminals, and want to side with the victims to sell papers? #hypocrisy #Sun		Aug 08 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] why don't the #Sun do full paparazzi exposes on those arrested, with the usual stalking family & friends to get dirt & trial by media		Aug 08 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] what makes the #Sun employees any different from any other target the Sun set their sights on? oh wait....."Sun employees" gotcha		Aug 08 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Beauty of #Bali under threat from pressures of mass tourism - http://bit.ly/MuZiS4 that's really sad, a wondrous place...		Aug 08 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Sibelius Users Forced to Face the Music - http://bit.ly/QFs4Vb a moral fable #opensource		Aug 08 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Video: Police Raid On The Mansion Of Megaupload’s Kim Dotcom http://goo.gl/0gPiu		Aug 08 15:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] every individual the copyright cartel persecute in their futile war against filesharing, they will turn into a martyr #MPAA #RIAA		Aug 08 15:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Annika O'Brien http://ur1.ca/9x1dt		Aug 08 15:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] 'XForms 2.0' and 'XForms 2.0: XPath expression module' Drafts Published http://dlvr.it/1z3QLP		Aug 08 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Patent Troll Claims That Showing A Video With A Static Ad Next To It Infringes http://goo.gl/LWkCw		Aug 08 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Gamestop Offers Glimpse Into Their Used-Games Facility http://goo.gl/AFJV5		Aug 08 15:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I read from 8pm to 1 am. Got up at 4am. Have walked for about 5 hours today, difficult to stay awake now. #creamcrackered		Aug 08 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] heh, nice! ♻ @schestowitz: Help counter the Cult of Steve Jobs. Go to fsf.org/jobs #fsf #freedom		Aug 08 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Increadible article on cargo cults, USA, UK, waste and the WWII: bit.ly/S2FI1T		Aug 08 16:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @dekaminski: HADOPI is “unwieldy, uneconomic and ultimately ineffective” - France backs away from three strikes http://t.co/MKF7UGLi		Aug 08 16:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Whanna see a good film about #hacking? Chip in: bit.ly/OZD2Ut		Aug 08 16:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Wo und wann hat Oracle bekannt gemacht Florian Müller zu bezahlen?!? "In Oracles Diensten aber steht zum Beispiel der... http://b1t.it/bTxC		Aug 08 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Who doesn’t love #Hadoop? - http://bit.ly/MjoTBX good rebuttal to "Hadoop needs to go closed source to be fit for the enterprise" nonsense		Aug 08 16:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Boy Scout "perversion files" reveal repeat child abuse by sexual predators - http://bit.ly/Mycdsq & so it goes on...		Aug 08 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: Boy Scout "perversion files" reveal repeat child abuse by sexual predators - http://bit.ly/Mycdsq & so it goes on...		Aug 08 16:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Current EU consultations of importance to digital rights - http://bit.ly/MrQ25G lots of input needed soon		Aug 08 16:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #CETA Update, Part One: Political Decision on Pharma Patents in the Fall - http://bit.ly/Mjr6O2 pathetic excuse for lack of #transparency		Aug 08 16:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Torsten Kleinz http://ur1.ca/9x1rn		Aug 08 16:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] LibreOffice 3.6 released http://ur1.ca/9x1uj		Aug 08 17:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] SHOW US THE TEXT!! !copyfraud ♻ @CUPE_Media: RT @mgeist: Canada and EU reject transparency for #CETA http://t.co/14XHQWPU		Aug 08 17:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] It's pretty obvious why the Government can't accept growth is over: because the only plan B is, redistribute what we have more fairly		Aug 08 17:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] All plans for the evening changed. Fine with me, I guess :-)		Aug 08 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] protip: when a freesoftie, activist or artist starts talking about "brand", "marketing" and "target", run to the hills.		Aug 08 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the #Demonoid plot thickens http://goo.gl/Se2mi police raid or no police raid?		Aug 08 17:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #SCO Group files Chapter 7 while in Chapter 11, wants to keep suing #IBM http://goo.gl/eoZZd		Aug 08 17:28
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schestowitz	I've just come back home (lots of sleep at the pool side).	Aug 08 17:36
schestowitz	5 posts ready	Aug 08 17:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Intellectual Ventures seeks "VP of Global Good". Must have horns, tail, goat's foot. http://ur1.ca/9x1zj		Aug 08 17:38
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DaemonFC	"I don't spend a lot of money on video games, simply for the fact that I don't think most of them are worth the $60, or whatever it is now. I mostly play older games and.....who said this DRM crap would necessarily stop an intelligent person? Though having to bypass it on software you paid for is really absurd and speaks to the mindset of the lunatics that are running the proprietary software asylum more than anything."	Aug 08 17:38
DaemonFC	-me on DRM in video games	Aug 08 17:38
formic_	meh	Aug 08 17:42
formic_	I guess its hard explaining video game purchases to your welfare auditor	Aug 08 17:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Tron http://ur1.ca/9x20h		Aug 08 17:43
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DaemonFC	huh?	Aug 08 17:43
DaemonFC	$60 is not worth 3 hours of video game play in campaign mode	Aug 08 17:44
DaemonFC	anyone who would argue otherwise is either a fool or has their parents buying them	Aug 08 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. http://ur1.ca/9x20k		Aug 08 17:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] if #CETA is so good, dear @ProtectHCCan, why can't we see the text? serious question. !copyfraud		Aug 08 17:46
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DaemonFC	My dog is on the roof!	Aug 08 17:57
DaemonFC	My dog is on the roof!	Aug 08 17:57
DaemonFC	B-)	Aug 08 17:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "officers acted quickly and decisively based on information available" - guy was not smiling, so it's ok! bit.ly/Qfu9Ty #Olympics		Aug 08 17:59
schestowitz	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/texting-overtakes-talking-as-most-popular-form-of-communication-in-uk-7956016.html	Aug 08 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] mais um dia passou e o @teksapo uma vez mais ignorou a bronca com a #icloud da #apple .... http://goo.gl/CNcMs com a ms-azure é o mesmo!		Aug 08 18:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] do #Microsoft think #Vista was a success? http://goo.gl/RU0G0 seems they're hooked on the idea of pissing off their customers		Aug 08 18:08
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schestowitz	I hate texting	Aug 08 18:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @silner It's pretty obvious why the Government can't accept growth is over: because the only plan B is, redistribute what we have mor ...		Aug 08 18:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Legit Ebook Lending Site Taken Down By An Angry Twitmob of Writers http://goo.gl/dMNDR		Aug 08 18:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Platypus SoftBottle http://goo.gl/Txiii #preppers #edc #bob + CanteenShop GrillTop #Stove Stand http://ur1.ca/9x25n		Aug 08 18:13
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schestowitz	http://twitter.com/DentalBoom/statuses/233156561525153792	Aug 08 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@DentalBoom: @schestowitz Sir what's the best linux server? Answer me pls	Aug 08 18:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] RD @thistleweb Legit Ebook Lending Site Taken Down By An Angry Twitmob of Writers http://goo.gl/dMNDR		Aug 08 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'd like to see a list of those writers, @thistleweb — to make sure I never buy another one of their books		Aug 08 18:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #UK weather ought to be OK the rest of the week, leaving more positive memory of #London 2012. #China well ahead of US. #GB does well too.		Aug 08 18:19
DaemonFC	Google kicks out a Chrome update, tells users to read the SVN log to find out what's in it. sigh	Aug 08 18:21
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE	Aug 08 18:21
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DaemonFC	oops	Aug 08 18:22
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DaemonFC	Debian hops on board the sanity bus, admits GNOME 3 is a disaster	Aug 08 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Planning to buy a labrador retriever soon. We bougt some of the gear yesterday, looked at hundreds of puppies. :-) http://ur1.ca/9x272		Aug 08 18:23
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MinceR	finally	Aug 08 18:23
MinceR	this almost certainly means that mono is out of the default gui install now	Aug 08 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Internet Explorer é o preferido em Portugal com Chrome a ganhar terreno http://goo.gl/HZF7p exemplo do analfabetismo informático do país!		Aug 08 18:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Fjögur Píanó, a Viral Video About Monarch Mind Control? \| The Vigilant Citizen http://goo.gl/Slfv7 #vc #xfiles		Aug 08 18:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] someone should crossbreed a labradoodle with a sandworm		Aug 08 18:29
DaemonFC	Mitt Romney's VP is going to be Rob Portman	Aug 08 18:30
DaemonFC	they've edited his wikipedia page over 100 times	Aug 08 18:30
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rob_Portman&action=history	Aug 08 18:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @IanBauters waarvoor dient het 2e dan?		Aug 08 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @OpendataCH: RT @bergie: 1. Put laws on GitHub. Done: http://t.co/QxPpbnsh 2. Make politicians send pull requests		Aug 08 18:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @IanBauters onderscheid tussen tram en bus? Ik zou dat zelfde houden. Wel interessant concept!		Aug 08 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Tribler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://goo.gl/PmCYf #torrents #p2p		Aug 08 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] How a NASA video of the Mars landing became another casualty of the robot wars: https://eff.org/r.a7h6 #copyright #MSL		Aug 08 18:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Demonoid Operators Face Criminal Investigation in Mexico \| TorrentFreak http://goo.gl/CHi8m #mafiaa		Aug 08 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Read the new preface by CC Korea's Jay Yoon to the Korean edition of Lawrence Lessig's The Future of Ideas http://bit.ly/OP2hcO		Aug 08 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Judge in Android Case Wants to Expose Lobbyists like Microsoft Florian http://ur1.ca/9x29s #lobbying #oracle #apple #android #swpats		Aug 08 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] EPA data breach highlights worrying trend - CSO Online - Security and Risk http://goo.gl/NQeTU #databases #shadowgov not forget #maincore		Aug 08 18:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @faconti: Alguém pode responder ao @tuliovianna ? Criticaram... a guarda de logs no #AI5digital e o #MarcoCivil prevê a guarda de logs?		Aug 08 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft is Above the Law and It Still Finds Its Crimes to be Profitable http://ur1.ca/9x2a8 #microsoft #eu #europe #antitrust		Aug 08 18:46
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DaemonFC	Why we should be doing more for men's health than we are for women's health	Aug 08 18:49
DaemonFC	but we won't because women are sacred	Aug 08 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] After repeated breaches of the law (competition violations and failure to comply with punishment for these) there is st http://ur1.ca/9x2a8		Aug 08 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Oracle's SCO-like litigation against Android (patents and copyrights) faces an angry judge who wants to know who was pa http://ur1.ca/9x29s		Aug 08 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ After repeated breaches of the law (competition violations and failure to comply with punishment for these) there is st http://ur1. ...		Aug 08 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Oracle's SCO-like litigation against Android (patents and copyrights) faces an angry judge who wants to know who was pa http://ur1. ...		Aug 08 18:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Quantum cryptography theory has a proven security defect http://goo.gl/5d4Zw #crypto		Aug 08 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Security advisories for Wednesday http://ur1.ca/9x2bc		Aug 08 18:56
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schestowitz	#Microsoft is Obscene	Aug 08 19:00
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2012/08/08/microsoft-is-obscene/ #chauvinism #feminism #foss #fud	Aug 08 19:00
schestowitz	#Microsoft is Obscene	Aug 08 19:00
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schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2012/08/08/microsoft-is-obscene/ #chauvinism #feminism #foss #fud	Aug 08 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft is Obscene http://ur1.ca/9x2d6 and they say @rms is "sexist"? !fsf #chauvinism #feminism #foss #fud		Aug 08 19:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Who doesn’t love #Hadoop? - http://bit.ly/MjoTBX good rebuttal to "Hadoop needs to go closed source to be fit for the ente ...		Aug 08 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody The Document Foundation Announces #LibreOffice 3.6 With A Wealth Of New Features And Improvements - http://bit.ly/OZchiR f ...		Aug 08 19:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Vista7 Reality Log got almost 40k visits http://ur1.ca/00b7e let's do the same with #Vista8 http://ur1.ca/4yz5h		Aug 08 19:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody How Do You Save a Dying Language? Crowdsource It - http://bit.ly/OYG5MP "site for documenting and learning rare languages" ...		Aug 08 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Over 1,000,000 Torrents of Downloadable Books, Music, and Movies - http://bit.ly/O2bKOZ more wonders from #internetarchive		Aug 08 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Microsoft is Above the Law and It Still Finds Its Crimes to be Profitable http://ur1.ca/9x2a8 #microsoft #eu #europe #an ...		Aug 08 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Judge in Android Case Wants to Expose Lobbyists like Microsoft Florian http://ur1.ca/9x29s #lobbying #oracle #apple #an ...		Aug 08 19:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Getting married next month (thus less posting in #techrights in recent months) http://ur1.ca/9x2fn		Aug 08 19:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Meet CC's new regional project managers! bit.ly/OMjlgu		Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2012/0808/Could-Rep.-Paul-Ryan-put-Wisconsin-in-play-for-Mitt-Romney	Aug 08 19:18
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DaemonFC	DaemonFC	Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	Mitt Romney's VP is going to be Rob Portman. Mitt Romney's band of "Romulan" astroturfers already spent the last few days and hundreds of edits to "sanitize" (propagandize, remove embarassing info, etc.) his Wikipedia article.	Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/w/ind...	Aug 08 19:18
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DaemonFC	Of course, I wouldn't expect CSMonitor to catch onto things like this.	Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	I hate what Disqus does to links	Aug 08 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Power [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9x2g9		Aug 08 19:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Apple freezes AppleID password resets requested over the phone \| Apple - CNET News http://goo.gl/IR1GV #crashandburn #amazon		Aug 08 19:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] TVShack Extradition Case Tumbling as Seventh Circuit Holds Linking/Streaming is Lawful - http://bit.ly/QMeAcI important analysis #odwyer		Aug 08 19:21
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scientes	http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120807133033596	Aug 08 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @glynmoody: TVShack Extradition Case Tumbling as Seventh Circuit Holds Linking/Streaming is Lawful - http://bit.ly/QMeAcI important analys		Aug 08 19:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] !FSF Says SHIELD Act Does Not Go Far Enough, Wants Software Patents Dead http://ur1.ca/9x2gw #swpats #us #shieldact		Aug 08 19:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] cryptogon.com » Possible Egyptian Pyramids Found Using Google Earth http://goo.gl/Wx1wm #Archeology		Aug 08 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OEMs Already Dislike #Vista8 http://ur1.ca/9x2jv #windows #spyware #malware #microsoft		Aug 08 19:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] BundesGit: Tracking law changes with #Git - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/eotiv #germany #floss - interesting!		Aug 08 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Holy Transfiguration Monastery Wins #Copyright Appeal Against Archbishop - http://sacb.ee/Rqyyat </insert joke here> (v @gchampeau)		Aug 08 19:46
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schestowitz	#Microsoft is Obscene	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2012/08/08/microsoft-is-obscene/ #chauvinism #feminism #foss #fud	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	> By default tracking in setup is disabled, but Task Scheduler after	Aug 08 19:47
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schestowitz	> Windows 8 is installed is not disabled.	Aug 08 19:47
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schestowitz	> Must we put this question up?? Lots of people in world will not seen this.	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	> By default tracking in setup is disabled, but in Task Scheduler after	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	> Windows 8 is installed is not disabled these features.	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	>	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	> Must we put this question up?? Lots of people in world will not seen this.	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	>	Aug 08 19:47
schestowitz	> Roy, we need to put this question up because this is too much.	Aug 08 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Boycott #Sharp http://ur1.ca/9x2kz #microsoft #extortion #exfat #tuxera #swpats #linux #android		Aug 08 19:48
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ThistleWeb/status/233265562321580033?uid=26603208&iid=am-45140289413444498187167266&nid=27+236	Aug 08 19:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@ThistleWeb: @schestowitz congrats to you and the soon-to-be-missus	Aug 08 19:49
DaemonFC	schestowitz: I had a long disqus conversation about Vista 8	Aug 08 19:50
DaemonFC	http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2012/0803/Leaked-version-of-Windows-8-reportedly-hits-Web	Aug 08 19:50
DaemonFC	it's in the comments section	Aug 08 19:50
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schestowitz	https://identi.ca/notice/95931506	Aug 08 19:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Aug-12 18:38:05 UTC - linuxwrangling: @schestowitz heh, is that Vista8, or Vista2?	Aug 08 19:51
schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Vista_8_Reality_LogVista 8 http://is.gd/sGCist	Aug 08 19:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] High-frame-rate version of 'The Hobbit' will only see a limited release http://goo.gl/oyA5k seems the risk of a backlash works		Aug 08 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nanex Documents the Rise of the HFT Machines http://goo.gl/ntXaa # highfrequencytrading #collapse #virtualeconomy		Aug 08 19:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Monsanto Awarded ONE BILLION Dollars Due To Patent Infringement For A Product That Was Never On The Market http://goo.gl/AyFCU		Aug 08 19:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Government- A new smartphone app could help protect you from a growing threat to your security http://goo.gl/m2ua1 #apps #usa #freedomtools		Aug 08 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @thistleweb Monsanto Awarded ONE BILLION Dollars Due To Patent Infringement For Product That Was Never On The Market http://goo.gl/AyFCU		Aug 08 20:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Even The Sex At The Olympics Is Sponsored http://goo.gl/RFNul		Aug 08 20:01
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DaemonFC	"Romney/Ryan would never work because you can't have two James Bond villains on a moon base stroking a cat in the same movie." -me	Aug 08 20:02
formic_	DaemonFC: you can have two batman villains in the same movie though	Aug 08 20:05
formic_	catwoman and penguin, riddler and twoface	Aug 08 20:06
formic_	twoface and joker	Aug 08 20:06
formic_	even the 60s adam west one had all of them at once	Aug 08 20:06
MinceR	to the Adam Westmobile!	Aug 08 20:06
formic_	where is my shark repellant	Aug 08 20:08
DaemonFC	The Ronald Raygun Moon Laser Industry is donating heavily to Republicans this year	Aug 08 20:12
DaemonFC	although I guess that's nothing new	Aug 08 20:12
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 20:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Slightly depressed. My own fault. Let's take a bath, wine and candles and read a few chapters of Dune.		Aug 08 20:19
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1852930	Aug 08 20:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft is Obscene http://techrights.org/2012/08/08/microsoft-is-obscene/ #chauvinism #feminism #foss #fud	Aug 08 20:27
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schestowitz	"Microsoft is just Microsoft. You would make them real harm and damage [as a company] by avoiding their products and discouraging your friend from buying ones with serious things, like lack of interoperability, closed source, formats, etc. People are more inclined to consider practical things like these than to allow themselves to have any ethical problems."	Aug 08 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Public school in Louisiana teaches Great Depression never happened http://identi.ca/url/73094883 #wtf		Aug 08 20:28
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: 14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools \| Mother Jones .::. Size~: 91.74 KB	Aug 08 20:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linus #Torvalds Will Be In #Korea To Attend Korean Linux Forum http://ur1.ca/9x2sk #kernel		Aug 08 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] MSIE, the blue E [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9x2to		Aug 08 20:36
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formic_	http://imgur.com/j2ryy	Aug 08 20:42
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DaemonFC	http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-57488993-10391698/randy-travis-charged-with-dwi-in-north-texas/	Aug 08 20:42
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DaemonFC	"Randy Travis was charged with driving while intoxicated and threatening law officers after the country singer crashed his car and was found naked and combative at the scene, Texas officials said Wednesday."	Aug 08 20:42
formic_	Shit happens when you party naked.	Aug 08 20:43
DaemonFC	apparently	Aug 08 20:43
MinceR	bat repellent	Aug 08 20:44
DaemonFC	http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-shelbyville-middle-school-teacher-accused-of-providing-sex-alcohol-to-minors-20120808,0,2517562.column	Aug 08 20:45
DaemonFC	WHOOP WHOOP!	Aug 08 20:45
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DaemonFC	does anyone else find it funny that this "teacher" graduated from a conservative Christian "university"?	Aug 08 20:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Cut out the middle man & support nonprofits! Name your price for music from @OKGo, @mc_frontalot, @TMBG & more. https://eff.org/r.29k		Aug 08 20:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 63 dents!		Aug 08 20:54
formic_	whats so funny about that	Aug 08 20:56
formic_	noah and his sons got drunk, and one of them raped him	Aug 08 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolabsys You can now subscribe to our news stories using an RSS feed http://ur1.ca/9x1fk		Aug 08 20:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rescue needed in darkness at U.S. Antarctic station http://identi.ca/url/73095275 !science		Aug 08 21:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @petermurrayrust: http://t.co/RT2HkD8H #elsevier replies about "open access" flags. Their infrastruc http://ur1. ...		Aug 08 21:13
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: Unilever Centre for Molecular Informatics, Cambridge - Elsevier replies about hybrid #openacess; I am appalled about their practices. Breaking licences and having to pay to read “Open Access” « petermr's blog .::. Size~: 56.17 KB	Aug 08 21:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Texas executes man with IQ of 61 http://identi.ca/url/73095351		Aug 08 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Monsanto awarded $1b due to patent on never shipped product http://identi.ca/url/73095357		Aug 08 21:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Archaeologists claim objects are earliest 'matches' http://identi.ca/url/73095366 !science		Aug 08 21:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Legit Ebook Lending Site Taken Down By An Angry Twitmob of Writers http://identi.ca/url/73095370		Aug 08 21:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @colivre: Entre Wordpress, Elgg e Drupal, a USP opta pelo #Noosfero para montar #redesocial própria Confira http://ur1.ca/9x2ux		Aug 08 21:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] All nations lose with #TPP's expansion of #copyright terms. Long exclusive rights only benefit Hollywood. https://eff.org/r.3ah7 #ACTA		Aug 08 21:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Humm, @ProtectHCCan is surprisingly quiet today. Be it because of the "show us the #CETA text" dents and tweets?		Aug 08 21:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @teirdes: Join me in helping make it happen for #Hackitat - A film about political hacking, world wide on @indiegogo http://t.co/6D2Dkr51		Aug 08 21:49
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DaemonFC	OK, I compared Walmart with how well I did on Amazon over the last few days for dry grocery	Aug 08 21:59
DaemonFC	Walmart came to $158 and Amazon came in at $130	Aug 08 21:59
DaemonFC	yay	Aug 08 21:59
*DaemonFC sure wishes there was a Costco around here, though.....		Aug 08 22:01
DaemonFC	I bet I could have come in under $120 there	Aug 08 22:01
DaemonFC	they say they're building on up near Fort Wayne	Aug 08 22:02
DaemonFC	I suppose that would be doable if I only drove up there once every few months and packed my car with everything I wanted right then	Aug 08 22:02
*DaemonFC would rather just buy case packs than individual items anyway, since they're shelf stable for 1-2 years or don't go bad (toilet paper, paper towels, dish soap, sponges, cleaner....)		Aug 08 22:03
DaemonFC	schestowitz: The lady at ALDI gave me a funny look the other day and commented on what an odd assortment I had	Aug 08 22:04
DaemonFC	told her that I'm just shopping there now to fill in the gaps from Amazon, like dairy, frozen, and meat	Aug 08 22:05
DaemonFC	it's hardly worth fucking around with them if I can get the national brand at the same price or less on Amazon	Aug 08 22:05
DaemonFC	unfortunately, the nature of Amazon kind of limits the grocery selection categories, but non-perishables are worth it	Aug 08 22:06
MinceR	gn	Aug 08 22:06
formic_	DaemonFC: does fort wayne have alot of fat fucks?	Aug 08 22:13
DaemonFC	well, it's part of Indiana, and Indiana is a part of the United States	Aug 08 22:14
DaemonFC	so, yes, yes we do have quite a lot of fat fucks	Aug 08 22:14
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 08 22:14
DaemonFC	when the real crop failures start hitting (the ones that wipe everything out), ConAgra can start grinding the fat fucks down into dehydrated fat fuck paste	Aug 08 22:15
DaemonFC	and they can flavor it as something that tastes sort of like chocolate	Aug 08 22:15
DaemonFC	and feed it to even bigger fat fucks	Aug 08 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How #lobbyists became Congress’s leading policy wonks - http://wapo.st/MjRdV2 insightful piece (v @Copycense)		Aug 08 22:16
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MinceR	yum yum	Aug 08 22:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Why the porn trial verdict is no reason to celebrate - http://bit.ly/P0ppEt great analysis of bad trial & awful law (v @PoliceStateUK)		Aug 08 22:21
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formic_	DaemonFC: odd that you dont have costco	Aug 08 22:22
formic_	DaemonFC: do you have carls jr?	Aug 08 22:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @chicagonpg: Get Tested Or Get Out: School Forces Pregnancy Tests on Girls, Kicks out Students Who Refuse or Pregnant http://bit.ly/Ne0HRc		Aug 08 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] All Nations Lose with #TPP's Expansion of Copyright Terms - http://bit.ly/Noz5p1 and how; time to reverse the copyright ratchet		Aug 08 22:23
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DaemonFC	we had a Hardees but it closed	Aug 08 22:25
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/Grace-Cock-Flavored-Soup-Pack/dp/B002AP2OS4/	Aug 08 22:28
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/Heinz-Spotted-Sponge-Pudding-9-4-Ounce/dp/B000II27QE	Aug 08 22:29
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DaemonFC	https://www.amazon.com/ThinkGeek-Canned-Unicorn-Meat/dp/B004CRYE2C/	Aug 08 22:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Australia jumping off a #copyright cliff with TPP: Greens - http://zd.net/MQqewY great image (v @FairDealNZ)		Aug 08 22:31
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: Australia jumping off a copyright cliff with TPP: Ludlam \| ZDNet .::. Size~: 59.32 KB	Aug 08 22:31
DaemonFC	formic_: A lot of Hardees restaurants in Indiana have been shut down	Aug 08 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Corporate "Sin-Washing:" Embracing the Olympic Brand Pays Off for Sponsors http://ur1.ca/9x3dg #olympic #whitewash #pr		Aug 08 22:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Registration just opened for #mozfest, November 9 to 11 in London. Who's going? mzl.la/RBr2eg @mozilla		Aug 08 22:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1849460	Aug 08 22:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu for Android – The First Sneak-Peek http://thedroidguy.com/2012/08/ubuntu-for-android-the-first-sneak-peek/ http://www.androidauthority.com/android-meets-ubuntu-makes-a-smashing-debut-105656/ #android #ubuntu #linux	Aug 08 22:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> Title: Ubuntu for Android – The First Sneak-Peek \| The Droid Guy .::. Size~: 45.3 KB	Aug 08 22:49
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schestowitz	"The first sneak peek was months ago."	Aug 08 22:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quick review for SING , first distro of 31 Flavors of Fun project http://ur1.ca/9x3e6 #gnu #linux		Aug 08 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: Site moved .::. Size~: 0.14 KB	Aug 08 22:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Scientific Linux 6.3 Beta 1 Review: Simply outstanding but why on older linux kernel & Gnome shell? http://ur1.ca/9x3ed #gnome #rhel		Aug 08 22:54
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: Site moved .::. Size~: 0.14 KB	Aug 08 22:54
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_food_contamination_incidents	Aug 08 22:55
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: List of food contamination incidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 72.78 KB	Aug 08 22:55
DaemonFC	2012, June - a Brazilian housewife discovered an apparently used condom at the bottom of a can of Knorr tomato paste. Unilever was fined £3,100 ($4,800) by the Supreme Federal Court. She was awarded £1,110 ($1,700) for moral damages, as she and her family had consumed a meal prepared with the paste.[2][3]	Aug 08 22:56
DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 08 22:56
DaemonFC	it's from Unilever, the condom was probably the healthiest thing in that can	Aug 08 22:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Uphill Climb of #Linux Gaming http://ur1.ca/9x3eo now climbing		Aug 08 22:58
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: Site moved .::. Size~: 0.14 KB	Aug 08 22:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Fixing Slow Window Movment in 4.9 http://ur1.ca/9wprd !kde #kwin		Aug 08 23:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] News Corp registers $1.6bn fourth-quarter loss http://goo.gl/LI3VD couldn't happen to a more worthy company		Aug 08 23:18
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: BBC News - News Corp registers $1.6bn fourth-quarter loss .::. Size~: 83.49 KB	Aug 08 23:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Is Dick Morris the world's worst political pundit? http://goo.gl/fRNJH		Aug 08 23:24
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: Is Dick Morris the world's worst political pundit? \| Harry J Enten \| Comment is free \| guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 116.19 KB	Aug 08 23:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Very good point ! #crapple #boycottapple"Apple is holding the industry back by arguing over rectangles with curved e... http://b1t.it/bTFD		Aug 08 23:39
TechrightsBot-tr	Title: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Very good point ! #crapple #boycottapple "Apple is… .::. Size~: 154.95 KB	Aug 08 23:39

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