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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #MPAA Recruits “Surrogates” to Support Extradition of UK Student | TorrentFreak http://goo.gl/NMBZV #mafiaaAug 11 00:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Memo to Microsoft: This is How You Do Marketing http://goo.gl/YLUi5Aug 11 00:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Memo to Microsoft: This is How You Do Marketing | PCWorld .::. Size~: 88.06 KBAug 11 00:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Microsoft Picks Another Web Standards Fight http://goo.gl/d37K3Aug 11 00:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Some Companies Using Linux http://goo.gl/KJTy #flossfiles #gnulinuxAug 11 00:38
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_end_times_predictionAug 11 00:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011 end times prediction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 194.67 KBAug 11 00:40
DaemonFCLOLAug 11 00:40
DaemonFCthey'll do what they always doAug 11 00:41
DaemonFCchange the date, keep the storyAug 11 00:41
DaemonFCthey've done it a hundred times and nobody ever says "Hey, wait a minute....."Aug 11 00:41
DaemonFC The New York Police Department stated: "We don't plan any additional coverage for the end of the world. Indeed, if it happens, fewer officers will be required for streets that presumably will be empty."[60]Aug 11 00:45
DaemonFCLOLAug 11 00:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Urgent Warning-Prepare for What is Coming - YouTube http://goo.gl/4Lsql #collapse #preppersAug 11 01:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'd like to know too: ♻ @mistadrong What I'd like to know is, what part did Howard Wolowitz play in the Mars landing? #curiosityAug 11 01:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @glynmoody Stratfor emails reveal secret, widespread TrapWire surveillance system - http://bit.ly/Rw6m5Q says it's used in UK: need t ...Aug 11 01:23
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DaemonFCThe Republicans are still trying to get None Of The Above taken off the ballot in NevadaAug 11 02:19
DaemonFCthis is too funnyAug 11 02:19
DaemonFChttp://nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/in-nevada-none-a-fearsome-foe-for-the-gop-20120716Aug 11 02:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Nevada, 'None' a Fearsome Foe for the GOP - Shane Goldmacher - NationalJournal.com .::. Size~: 54.38 KBAug 11 02:24
DaemonFChttp://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/08/10/2152236/microsoft-picks-another-web-standards-fightAug 11 02:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Picks Another Web Standards Fight - Slashdot .::. Size~: 204.63 KBAug 11 02:41
DaemonFCThey'll probably infect Firefox and Chrome with it via a plug-inAug 11 02:42
DaemonFCthey would just go it alone, but that's kind of hard with a global usage share of only 20% for their own browserAug 11 02:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @lnxwalt This is not huge plus anymore. What we want is enjoyable gameplay not what you meanAug 11 03:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Stable kernel 3.2.27 http://ur1.ca/9xk0uAug 11 03:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav Interviewing for a job? Here are 5 Questions Great Job Candidates Ask http://identi.ca/url/73127660Aug 11 03:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Job Interviews: 5 Questions Great Candidates Ask | Inc.com .::. Size~: 58.78 KBAug 11 03:41
DaemonFChttps://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2012/08/10/google-self-censors-to-get-the-illegitmate-sites-stricken-from-its-results/Aug 11 03:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google self-censors to get the “illegitmate” sites stricken from its results. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 70.17 KBAug 11 03:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens. 4% of Karachi's 13,000,000 population are heroin users. #tragic #addictionAug 11 04:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Samsung tries to mislead jury when questioning Apple patent experts http://goo.gl/Po8nEAug 11 04:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] From SOPA To Cybersecurity: All About Trying To Control The Internet http://goo.gl/HkfSNAug 11 04:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: From SOPA To Cybersecurity: All About Trying To Control The Internet | Techdirt .::. Size~: 47.51 KBAug 11 04:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] There’s only one truly open platform — the web http://goo.gl/Av3z2Aug 11 04:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: There’s only one truly open platform — the web — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 68.29 KBAug 11 04:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody Stratfor emails reveal secret, widespread TrapWire surveillance system - http://bit.ly/Rw6m5Q says it's used in UK: need t ...Aug 11 04:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stratfor emails reveal secret, widespread TrapWire surveillance system — RT .::. Size~: 61.51 KBAug 11 04:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb From SOPA To Cybersecurity: All About Trying To Control The Internet http://goo.gl/HkfSNAug 11 04:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The seagulls are unusually noisy this morning.Aug 11 05:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] SUSE and Secure Boot: The Details (SUSE Blog) http://ur1.ca/9xkawAug 11 05:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Good morning identica and twitter-verse !Tzag ;-)Aug 11 05:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Its going to be a bright bright bright sun shiny day.Aug 11 05:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] :-) http://ur1.ca/9xkd3Aug 11 05:36
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royhttp://identi.ca/notice/95976822Aug 11 05:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Kevin Granade (kevingranade)'s status on Friday, 10-Aug-12 20:51:24 UTC - linuxwrangling: @schestowitz aren't they a company Nokia spun off several years ago to handle Qt licensing?Aug 11 05:48
royXFaCE: cool@Aug 11 05:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux users http://ur1.ca/9xke4Aug 11 05:51
*roy is now known as schestowitzAug 11 05:51
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XFaCEsichestowitz: :)Aug 11 05:52
XFaCEoopsAug 11 05:52
oiaohmschestowitz:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digia  Was in the QT game before Nokia.Aug 11 06:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Digia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 26.79 KBAug 11 06:03
oiaohmschestowitz: http://www.digia.com/en/Home/What-we-do/Aug 11 06:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: What we do - Digia Oyj .::. Size~: 65.68 KBAug 11 06:05
oiaohmschestowitz: KDE still can veto the sale and force QT to go BSD license.Aug 11 06:05
oiaohmschestowitz: or LGPLAug 11 06:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] British PM says that school PE will revolve around competitive games, end of "Prizes for all". Will he end the honours system then?Aug 11 06:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TracFone Scores the #LG #Optimus Zip http://ur1.ca/9xki2 taxed by #Microsoft sadly. #android #linux #swpatsAug 11 06:33
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schestowitzoiaohm: yes, I knowAug 11 06:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] An open infrastructure could curb high-frequency trading disasters http://ur1.ca/9xkiq "high-frequency trading" nice euphemism for riggingAug 11 06:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Doom 3 Now Runs On Android http://ur1.ca/9xkja #doom #android #linuxAug 11 06:43
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95984315Aug 11 06:47
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 11-Aug-12 05:42:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Apart from the fact that they do not work for the company HFT has a lot in common with insider training.Aug 11 06:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1854578Aug 11 06:49
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #XFCE Makes Mint Even Fresher http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/75842.html #gnu #linux #linuxmintAug 11 06:49
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schestowitz"@Clint: XFCE can look pretty good with the right theming: http://hashbox.deviantart.com/art/Arch-160911-258636190 "Aug 11 06:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZipWhip Releases Cloud Texting App for #Linux Desktop http://ur1.ca/9xkk2 #gnu #desktopAug 11 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Fish fingers and fried egg sarnies for brekky... hmmmmAug 11 06:49
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schestowitz"Aric is right. I personally use the Shiki Colors theme along with the matching GNOME Colors icon theme. Makes Xfce look much nicer than the default themes. And it's less bloated than GNOME 3 is on my netbook."Aug 11 06:50
schestowitz"Yuck. Anything probably will look better than LXDE."Aug 11 06:50
schestowitz"Well, LXDE also uses GTK widgets so you can make it look nice with the right theme, but it is a little rougher around the edges overall compared to Xfce."Aug 11 06:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Whisky is made all over the world but there is something very odd sounding about English whisky http://ur1.ca/9xkkoAug 11 06:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] What makes our #NDAA lawsuit a struggle to save the US constitution http://ur1.ca/9xik3 "they just envy our freedom"?Aug 11 06:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] OSI Signs Declaration of Internet Freedom http://ur1.ca/9xklb #opensource #osiAug 11 06:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I saw several farmers out in the fields yesterday deciding if they were going to harvest today.Aug 11 06:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "Oxford professor of circadian neuroscience" #languageAug 11 07:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Post-Work Economy http://ur1.ca/9xkm0 #finance #usAug 11 07:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Up to one in 2,000 Britons could carry CJD agent. http://ur1.ca/9xknaAug 11 07:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If the IOC were really interested in making the games !green they would all be held in Athens.Aug 11 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In Search of the Best #Linux for #Windows Refugees http://ur1.ca/9xknn "...they said it was a much improved Windows."Aug 11 07:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The 64 million Euro question is..."Aug 11 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More information on the #Ubuntu laptop sold at #Radioshack (and Computer Shop) http://ur1.ca/9xkoi #GNU #LinuxAug 11 07:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Goldman Sachs Leads Split With Obama, as GE Jilts Him Too http://ur1.ca/9xkp0 #GoldmanSachs buys both parties to reduce/end regulationAug 11 07:24
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Omegao/Aug 11 07:25
Omegaanyone upAug 11 07:25
*amarsh04 is upAug 11 07:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 120810 - http://bit.ly/RzLbQk yesterday's tweets as a single Web pageAug 11 07:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moody's Microblog Daily Digest: 120810 .::. Size~: 71.13 KBAug 11 07:55
schestowitzjust had a napAug 11 07:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Wozniak... "With the cloud, you don't own anything. You already signed it away". Via @RMS http://ur1.ca/9wjszAug 11 07:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Stratfor Is a Joke and So Is Wikileaks for Taking It Seriously - http://bit.ly/NTJ8BZ I find story here rather too black & white #trapwireAug 11 08:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stratfor Is a Joke and So Is Wikileaks for Taking It Seriously - Max Fisher - The Atlantic .::. Size~: 136.5 KBAug 11 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @AnneCruyt In Gent Sint Pieters heb je toch ook de Einstein coffee?Aug 11 08:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Biggest story you missed - http://bit.ly/OQYY1M just the tip of the #TrapWire iceberg #surveillance (v @mpesce)Aug 11 08:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Biggest story you missed - Salon.com .::. Size~: 71.42 KBAug 11 08:14
oiaohmReally all the talk about windows managers is miss placed.Aug 11 08:27
oiaohmwayland is where the headache is.  Since windows managers go by by.Aug 11 08:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The world has woken up in my little bit of it, time to go into it.Aug 11 08:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] MIT Prof Says Samsung Customers Might Pay Extra $100 for Apple-like Features - http://dthin.gs/QnTWsY also: he's paid $800 an hour by AppleAug 11 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Would any mod please at least have a look at "Photo scanning" They appear to be spamming by liking rather than posting.Aug 11 08:43
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MIT Professor Says Samsung Customers Might Pay Extra $100 for Apple-like Features - Ina Fried - Mobile - AllThingsD .::. Size~: 66.15 KBAug 11 08:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @glynmoody MIT Prof Says Samsung Customers Might Pay Extra $100 for Apple-like Features - http://ur1.ca/9xkx9 also: he's paid $800 ...Aug 11 08:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I wish @RMS would stop making cryptic dents, it is really starting to get on my nerves.Aug 11 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Decided to postpone the world today.Aug 11 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I ask you "Protests" is one step from "Something happened" #cryptic.Aug 11 08:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "I was brought up to conform" We all were.Aug 11 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] To quote Punch "That's the way to do it." :)Aug 11 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Malaria is no excuse for patent trolling, Mr. Myhrvold - http://bit.ly/QPjrHK quite: cynical in the extreme #ivAug 11 09:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Malaria is no excuse for patent trolling, Mr. Myhrvold — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 59.79 KBAug 11 09:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Creepy Spying System Revealed by !Wikileaks, Which Then Gets Hit by a Massive Attack http://identi.ca/url/73128809 !effAug 11 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creepy Spying System Revealed by Wikileaks, Which Then Gets Hit by a Massive Attack - Hit & Run : Reason.com .::. Size~: 112.66 KBAug 11 09:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Fix bash rc file insanity http://identi.ca/url/73130371 !linuxAug 11 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Finally, a task oriented human friendly launcher that isn't shit: Chameleon http://identi.ca/url/73130389 !googleAug 11 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Replace .bashrc, .bash_profile, .profile, etc. with something much more clean, consistent, and meaningful. — Gist .::. Size~: 28.03 KBAug 11 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chameleon:  A Better Home Screen for your Android Tablet by Gabor Vida - Teknision — Kickstarter .::. Size~: 58.7 KBAug 11 09:08
iophkhttp://www.geekwire.com/2012/feisty-nathan-myhrvold-defends-quest-global-good/Aug 11 09:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A feisty Nathan Myhrvold defends his quest for ‘Global Good’ - GeekWire .::. Size~: 119.4 KBAug 11 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "The British class system is reasserting itself vigorously".Aug 11 09:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] re Google's new search rankings: as someone noted, to be fair it should also demote any company sending in bogus DMCA takedowns...Aug 11 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Do the 1% look upon the rest of us as low life? Or accountants or plumbers at best?Aug 11 09:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If you are gay, lesbian, bisexual what you need is religion #guffaw.Aug 11 09:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The bloke on the radio said "Eunuchs" I thought he said UNIX.Aug 11 09:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Why do we get @RMS dents over a week after they appear on his site?Aug 11 09:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Profit and PR are the real enemies of innovation - http://bit.ly/RHK2Ib great piece attacking rent-seeking (v @barefoot_techie) #patentsAug 11 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Profit and PR are the real enemies of innovation | Peter Wilby | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 304.28 KBAug 11 09:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9xla2Aug 11 09:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Interview with USA citizen who dropped a weapon of mass destruction on civilians can be summed up as "je ne regrette rien" Wanker!Aug 11 10:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Freedom To Create - http://bit.ly/Nn5EHr well spotted #opensourceAug 11 10:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] But he's free to do what he wants any old time. As it should be. Bonus points for the song reference.Aug 11 10:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tanfoglio_ @hannesvdvreken ma allez, ge moet toch gewoon een beetje wandelen. Zo moeilijk kan dat niet http://ur1. ...Aug 11 10:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The 1% of Britain do not need us unproductive people, at the moment...Aug 11 10:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "I have just turned 50 and I use the same hotel chain because I know how to use their telly remote." Lockin :-)Aug 11 10:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Enslaving [IMG] http://ur1.ca/9xlf2Aug 11 10:34
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/kracetheking/statuses/234154680073207809Aug 11 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr@kracetheking: Perception of others about Linux RT @schestowitz: Linux users http://t.co/LCyKGF1NAug 11 10:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Retrobooster, New Indie Shooter Coming to #Linux http://ur1.ca/9xlfh #gamesAug 11 10:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How John #Carmack Has Missed The Boat He Is Already Riding In http://ur1.ca/9xlft #games #linuxAug 11 10:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Moving to #ArchLinux from #Fedora http://ur1.ca/9xlg1 #gnu #linuxAug 11 10:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Does the #Surface spat open the door for Linux? http://ur1.ca/9xlg6 #gnu #linux #acerAug 11 10:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Foundation Heads to Korea, Thanks to Samsung http://ur1.ca/9xlga the same #Samsung that pays #Microsoft for #Linux ?Aug 11 10:49
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95986695Aug 11 10:50
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 11-Aug-12 09:38:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz. http://ur1.ca/9xlf8Aug 11 10:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to the bricks in a barrel builders sketch I first listened to when I was 11. #Timing.Aug 11 10:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Good morning Pztrn.Aug 11 10:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] This Is One Incredible CEO http://ur1.ca/9xlhg #redhat #gnu #linuxAug 11 11:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #LinuxDeepin 12.06 review http://ur1.ca/9xlhy #gnu #linuxAug 11 11:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 5 popular #Linux distros http://ur1.ca/9xc4vAug 11 11:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The burn injury I inflicted on myself last drinking week's drinking day has largely calmed down. #GladAug 11 11:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The prof of sleeping is saying what we all know. Not sleeping as night is really bad for you.Aug 11 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOMEOS is on the way - but mainly for testing and development http://ur1.ca/9xlin http://ur1.ca/9x1w1 #gnu #gnome !fsfAug 11 11:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] #Kompetenz versus “#Digitale #Demenz” Wo muss ich klicken um unsere Kinder um den Verstand zu bringen? ur1.ca/9xl1xAug 11 11:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Now they move onto street/home lighting as if it would not have a huge effect.Aug 11 11:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ScientificLinux 6.3 Review: Simply outstanding http://ur1.ca/9xlla #rhel #gnu #linuxAug 11 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #rosa #gnu #linux is gaining traction http://ur1.ca/9xllv http://ur1.ca/9xllw http://ur1.ca/9xllxAug 11 11:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Interested to see an advert (I do not see many) for tyres that quote their sound output whilst running. #pollutionAug 11 11:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Fuduntu review http://ur1.ca/9xlmj #gnu #linuxAug 11 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] The HT from a starting car interrupts my 3G audio. It does not happen often where I live.Aug 11 11:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Some Prominent Open Source Forks http://ur1.ca/9xlnk #opensourceAug 11 11:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Hand-to-Mouth: Rise in UK working poor as spending cuts bite http://ur1.ca/9xlns #ukAug 11 11:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @AnneCruyt toch toch, ik ben er vanmorgen een koffie gaan drinkenAug 11 11:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Yesterday at the diner, lady serving customers said she lived on too little, left with just 15 pounds. Our tip then exceeded the meal's costAug 11 11:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Can open source be democratic? http://ur1.ca/9xac2 #opensourceAug 11 11:41
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95987159Aug 11 11:42
TechrightsBot-tr@Miguel A. M. (zodiac)'s status on Saturday, 11-Aug-12 10:18:44 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Arch+KDE 4.9 http://ur1.ca/9xlk3Aug 11 11:42
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schestowitzLOL Network World adds yet another free software-hostile blogger http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/81195Aug 11 11:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #ZaReason #UltraLap 430 is the first #Linux Ultrabook http://ur1.ca/9xlp1 #gnuAug 11 11:49
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95987539Aug 11 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 11-Aug-12 10:46:06 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz How often do we see anything critical on British telly? #killthepoorAug 11 11:51
schestowitzyes, keep that eyesore off the streets of London.. don't want to irritate the tourists who travelled to find glitterAug 11 11:51
schestowitzthe press is too afraid to cover the biggest kind of crimes because the perpetrators are rich enough to SLAPP sue for libelAug 11 11:54
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/95987159Aug 11 11:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/233526605727797248Aug 11 11:56
TechrightsBot-tr@jmcest: Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. RT @schestowitz: Bored Of Windows 8 Metro? Install The Awesome KDE  http://t.co/tx8A5ngs #kde #linux #vista8Aug 11 11:56
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TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Saturday, 11-Aug-12 10:58:02 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Law... We are all in it together :( #sarcasmAug 11 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is a real problem. If you disagree with the ruling citizens too much they may ruin your life or even end it.Aug 11 12:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] This planet only has so many resources. Where is our future for all of us?Aug 11 12:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] OI! Sandersch you lazy bastard :-)Aug 11 12:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log: Major overhaul of Nouveau http://ur1.ca/9xlxy #kernel #linuxAug 11 12:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Just finished reading the current ToS of whatsapp. And so far I like what I have read. I must admit that I missed the ... http://b1t.it/bUsTAug 11 12:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] A #Linux #LiveCD To Play With #Wayland /Weston http://ur1.ca/9xlz9Aug 11 13:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So we know that Microsoft wants a $12-15 patent tax on Android devices and now we learn that Apple would like to have ... http://b1t.it/bUs2Aug 11 13:09
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oiaohmhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1NzY Interesting.Aug 11 13:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Linux founder Linus Torvalds delivers a smackdown like no other | Attendly http://j.mp/Nnpgcq http://b1t.it/bUs8Aug 11 13:16
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MinceRgeekingsAug 11 13:17
XFaCEMinceR: helloAug 11 13:21
XFaCEMinceR: pirateparty.caAug 11 13:21
XFaCEMinceR: Techrights is now listed as an official peer of the PPCA!!Aug 11 13:21
XFaCE:)Aug 11 13:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[serk01/@serk01] Θα'λεγα καλημερα αλλα νομιζω μεσημεριασεAug 11 13:28
MinceR:)Aug 11 13:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Going to do something very unusual today. At least for me.Aug 11 13:34
schestowitzXFaCE: cool :-)Aug 11 13:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Has functionality finally caught up with the #Android spec race? http://goo.gl/PDpwd #linuxAug 11 13:39
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XFaCEschestowitz: has traffic increased?Aug 11 13:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I'm reading about "immigration delay disease" http://bit.ly/ML4rLU I'm serious — it's real! http://b1t.it/bUtDAug 11 13:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Definitely on the wrong side of the patent dispute, @Enderle nonetheless makes interesting reading http://feedly.com/... http://b1t.it/bUtGAug 11 13:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft-funded mouthpiece finally says #android is a leader http://ur1.ca/9xm9d (Android races past Apple in smartphone market share)Aug 11 13:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Duronic Aquadam / Pluscom 7 port USB Hub Powering the !RaspberryPi - YouTube http://goo.gl/IDR7xAug 11 13:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] #Google #Translate now supports photos - imediamonkey http://feedly.com/k/NnCN5F http://b1t.it/bUtPAug 11 14:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sunday night the Perseids will be hitting the sky. Get out, watch them. It will be impressive. Promised.Aug 11 14:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 11/8/2012: GNOME OS, OSI for Internet Freedom http://ur1.ca/9xmd5 #techrightsAug 11 14:16
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schestowitz"Aug 11 14:18
schestowitzSecondly I DONT FUCKING DOC DROP.Aug 11 14:18
schestowitzEven if I actually knew what this personal information was (I seriously have no idea who most these people are) I wouldn’t care, because:Aug 11 14:18
schestowitzI DON’T DOC DROP. Never have done. Never will.Aug 11 14:18
schestowitz"Aug 11 14:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] TVShack Staff in U.S. Worked With Feds To Nail Richard O’Dwyer http://goo.gl/YzzSuAug 11 14:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TVShack Staff in U.S. Worked With Feds To Nail Richard O’Dwyer | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 30.45 KBAug 11 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Olympics could safeguard the BBC for another generation of UK TV viewers http://goo.gl/4V46NAug 11 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Alguém sabe se existe em português o "CHILDHOOD'S END" de Arthur C Clarke? Na Argonauta...talvez, mas com outro título?!Aug 11 14:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Olympics Safeguards the BBC for Another Generation .::. Size~: 107.02 KBAug 11 14:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Elastic never sleeps, I wish it would.Aug 11 14:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: the press is too afraid to cover the biggest kind of crimes because the perpetrators are rich enough to SLAPP sue for libelAug 11 14:39
XFaCEschestowitz: has traffic increased recently (maybe cause of the PPCA link)?Aug 11 14:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] palestra histórica do @filipesaraiva, em mais de um sentido! :-) adorei!Aug 11 14:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Downloading running music to my player: http://www.amazon.de/80s-House-Classics/dp/B002G2CHII/ref=pd_sim_sbs_dmusic_a... http://b1t.it/bUuPAug 11 14:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How #Google's stealth support is buoying Samsung in Apple fight | Apple - CNET News http://goo.gl/0JSvU #android #patents #impAug 11 14:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The Secret Footballer: undercover in the Premier League http://goo.gl/OkeByAug 11 15:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Secret Footballer: undercover in the Premier League | extract | Football | The Guardian .::. Size~: 344.49 KBAug 11 15:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Andre Nantel http://ur1.ca/9xmo4Aug 11 15:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Backup problem when spanning multiple removable disks http://goo.gl/n6GSl #gnulinux #tipsAug 11 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Video: ioSafe Goes Crazy—Burns, Drowns, and Crushes Solo SSD To Prove Toughness http://goo.gl/IWZ9o #backup #hardware http://iosafe.com/Aug 11 15:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Aberto até de Madrugada: ToS;DR - Termos de Serviço Simplificados http://goo.gl/s0klIAug 11 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I note the #pollspam still hasn't been fixed in #Identica - good to know the groups are still unfit for purpose & not worth rejoiningAug 11 16:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Profit and PR are the real enemies of innovation http://goo.gl/NBQWaAug 11 16:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Profit and PR are the real enemies of innovation | Peter Wilby | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 305.46 KBAug 11 16:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Religious censorship crushes creativity. So is it ever right to ban art? http://goo.gl/s0JnSAug 11 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] on reflection, the "voted for" came from someone I currently follow, so technically not #pollspam #mybadAug 11 16:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Religious censorship crushes creativity. So is it ever right to ban art? | Jeet Thayil | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 301.27 KBAug 11 16:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The endless, combative soap opera of politics has to stop. It's such a turn-off http://goo.gl/Kq4wlAug 11 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How to Make Great Photographs http://goo.gl/XHHHE #PhotographyAug 11 16:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The endless, combative soap opera of politics has to stop. It's such a turn-off | Miranda Green | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 321.62 KBAug 11 16:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #NYPD's 'Domain Awareness' #Surveillance System, Built By #Microsoft, Unveiled By Bloomberg http://goo.gl/SdkI8 #usa #policestateAug 11 16:21
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DaemonFCMitt Romney chose the Austerity cheerleaderAug 11 16:29
DaemonFChttp://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0811/Romney-picks-Rep.-Paul-Ryan-as-his-running-mateAug 11 16:29
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DaemonFCwell, throw Social Security and Medicare in the grinder to fund the military anyway....Aug 11 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] WIKILEAKS: Surveillance Cameras Around The Country Are Being Used In A Huge Spy Network - Business Insider http://goo.gl/LqzBo #trapwireAug 11 16:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Unravelling TrapWire: The CIA-Connected Global Suspicious Activity Surveillance System | Public Intelligence http://goo.gl/5U6o9 #trapwireAug 11 16:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: WIKILEAKS: Surveillance Cameras Around The Country Are Being Used In A Huge Spy Network - Business Insider .::. Size~: 142.99 KBAug 11 16:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Poll Finds Americans Think the #TSA Is 'Doing a Good Job' - Slashdot http://goo.gl/foVcw F* #SHEEPLE - #usa #policestateAug 11 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Has anyone ever been drunk in charge of a computer?Aug 11 16:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Apart from your average Identizen.Aug 11 16:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Schneier on #Security: Breaking #Microsoft's #PPTP Protocol http://goo.gl/5cjdI just use #openvpnAug 11 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] From #SOPA To Cybersecurity: All About Trying To Control The #Internet | Techdirt http://goo.gl/HkfSN #usa #mafiaa #policestate #docsAug 11 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !listening to that delightfully orgasmic sound that a full and catching up glass of pop makes. Whooooshhh.Aug 11 16:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Google Caves To Hollywood Pressure: Will Now Punish Sites That Get Lots Of 'Valid' #DMCA Notices | Techdirt http://goo.gl/X6Vnj #mafiaaAug 11 16:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Caves To Hollywood Pressure: Will Now Punish Sites That Get Lots Of 'Valid' DMCA Notices | Techdirt .::. Size~: 247.54 KBAug 11 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Wide Disparity In Which ISPs (In Which Countries) Throttle #BitTorrent | Techdirt http://goo.gl/se6q5 #mafiaaAug 11 17:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wide Disparity In Which ISPs (In Which Countries) Throttle BitTorrent | Techdirt .::. Size~: 100.9 KBAug 11 17:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] PHP 5.4 comes with a built in webserver for testing -- handy! #nephpAug 11 17:04
DaemonFCand hundreds of Mitt Romney shares are being sold off on Intrade alreadyAug 11 17:05
DaemonFClolAug 11 17:05
DaemonFCthey want their $3.85 while they can still get itAug 11 17:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Download Top 1135 Novel Collection(EPUB+MOBI)[Team Nanban]tmrg Torrent - KickassTorrents http://goo.gl/vAkSD #booksAug 11 17:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Download Top 1135 Novel Collection(EPUB+MOBI)[Team Nanban]tmrg Torrent - KickassTorrents .::. Size~: 68.44 KBAug 11 17:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Ovigia Nice link but what about the books in our queues? It is in addition for which I thank you.Aug 11 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Ovigia Watch out for recommending the Bible I heard they had a Disney lawyer.Aug 11 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I can see my cock again when I have a piss. #Huzzah.Aug 11 17:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @r7: today i am mostly sick of people who should know better, rationalizing facebook, google+ and twitter usageAug 11 17:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @prenass: @faconti isso é inconstitucional, não é questão de "tempo". Seria como fechar o shopping porque grudaram um cartaz ilegal.Aug 11 17:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] That passed through the otherwise exemplary Identica NSC trained public spirited bods. (Joke how much more jokey could I be?)Aug 11 17:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] You Linux techies carry on what you are doing because I like it.Aug 11 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Two corporate pizzas in the freezer but which one?Aug 11 17:59
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95993118Aug 11 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr@حالة lnxwalt (lnxwalt280) (lnxwalt280) في يوم Saturday, 11-Aug-12 16:44:40 UTC - 280: @schestowitz Thanks for checking. As a #KDE user that was my concern.Aug 11 18:03
DaemonFCan email to my dad.....Aug 11 18:03
DaemonFCThe RNC is harassing Ron Paul supporters, trying to get the delegates he won disqualified so he can't make his speech at the RNC, and are threatening to simply refuse to seat his delegates if they can't manage to steal them back.Aug 11 18:03
DaemonFCIt will be very embarrassing for this authoritarian fascist Romney/Ryan charade if Ron Paul gets to speak at the RNC and manages to overshadow them and call them out as being so far off base from what the Republican Party says it stands for.Aug 11 18:03
DaemonFCThere's a tremendous difference between the Ron Paul for Medicare and the Paul Ryan plan for Medicare could not be more different.Aug 11 18:03
DaemonFCThe Paul Ryan plan looks more like the thought that went behind the Part D bullshit, where if they just finish tearing apart Original Medicare and hand what's left of it to the profitized insurance cartel, they can chow down on billions of dollars of government money while offering junk insurance to senior citizens.Aug 11 18:03
DaemonFCRon Paul, if you listened to him, would have made Medicare a voluntary program. You can pay in and get benefits, or you can refuse to pay in and expect to get nothing out later. Ron Paul would have also scuttled what I call Medicare "Part CW" (for Corporate Welfare), which is Parts C and D, and replaced them with something that works like the VA drug plan.Aug 11 18:03
DaemonFCThis Paul Ryan guy is some seriously bad shit. Where do people like him come from? Who the fuck could vote for this shit? You know? It makes me so frustrated. Conservatives are only jumping up and down over Romney/Ryan because they don't know that they're dancing on their own graves. Aug 11 18:04
DaemonFCoops, I kind of screwed up that third line... *sigh*Aug 11 18:04
DaemonFCI'm still feeling a little woozy from just having woken up and my arm is throbbing from that flu shotAug 11 18:05
DaemonFCthat's "normal" for me, after a flu shot, the area where I got it kind of aches for a day or soAug 11 18:05
DaemonFCbeats getting the flu....Aug 11 18:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Stratfor emails reveal secret, widespread #TrapWire #surveillance system - YouTube http://goo.gl/UHHFfAug 11 18:06
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I predict that the polling for Romney will bump upward for a few days until people start figuring out who Paul Ryan really isAug 11 18:06
DaemonFCand then it will start to decline some moreAug 11 18:07
DaemonFCthe people who already see this coming are starting to sell off their Romney shares on intrade, quietlyAug 11 18:07
DaemonFCwhile they are still worth somethingAug 11 18:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] On the other hand I am considering a toad in the hole sarnie.Aug 11 18:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am about to eat a meal of which nothing can be healthy unless you are starving. Still pizza for pud :-)Aug 11 18:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Steve Wozniak: #Internet freedoms at risk - YouTube http://goo.gl/5ofp5 listen the man trendy #sheepleAug 11 18:14
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schestowitznot just InternetAug 11 18:15
schestowitzunrest makes society suffocatedAug 11 18:15
schestowitzfreedom is easy when there is prosperity\Aug 11 18:16
schestowitzThe curtains come off when there is no stabilityAug 11 18:16
MinceRmuhaha, wozo suddenly cares about freedomAug 11 18:17
DaemonFCMinceR's Nazis v. Communist-style elections are in the United States nowAug 11 18:18
DaemonFCI guess I'll throw in with the CommunistsAug 11 18:18
DaemonFCwhy not? Aug 11 18:18
DaemonFCwe're going down either wayAug 11 18:18
DaemonFCI'd rather not have to listen to fire breathing nationalist Christian propaganda coming out of the White House like we had during Bush as it is happeningAug 11 18:18
DaemonFCThe fact that I'd feel safer if Bush came back than I would feel with Mitt Romney in the White House is.....well, it's just a bad thingAug 11 18:20
DaemonFCbad bad bad feeling about thisAug 11 18:20
DaemonFCthere are a few silver linings to the Romney Ryan ticket that might discourage Republican turnoutAug 11 18:21
DaemonFCwe now have a Mormon and a Catholic on the same ticketAug 11 18:21
DaemonFCmany protestants hate Mormons and many of them despise Catholics as wellAug 11 18:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Stand up for your freedom to install #freesoftware http://ur1.ca/5fq1q #gnu #linux #opensource #securebootAug 11 18:21
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DaemonFCThis makes it more likely they won't show up, and if they do they will be more likely to make a meaningless protest vote instead so that they do not have to support a Mormon and a CatholicAug 11 18:22
DaemonFCCatholicism has a much higher "saturation" level in many other countries than it does in the United StatesAug 11 18:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1852101Aug 11 18:23
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schestowitz"No, I really like the people they choose to do their bidding for them. I'm one of those crazy people who think what democracy means is everyone should have a vote, and we shouldn't delegate it to anyone for it's much too important job and also too much power to give any small group of people."Aug 11 18:23
DaemonFCwhile the overall percentage of Christians here is similar to, say, the UK, they are much more fragmented and tend to distrust one anotherAug 11 18:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Have you heard Windows 8 is coming out/Aug 11 18:24
DaemonFCthe thing about "We're right and everyone else is wrong" leads to a myopic world view where everyone else's opinions are baseAug 11 18:25
DaemonFCit's important, because the more they are fighting with each other, the less resources they have to coordinate attacks on everyone elseAug 11 18:25
DaemonFCthey manage sometimes when they are in complete agreement and the issue is right in front of them (gay marriage and so on)Aug 11 18:26
DaemonFCthey'd be far more dangerous if they were a homogenous groupAug 11 18:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Video: Aerial extravaganza marks Russian Air Force 100th anniversary - YouTube http://goo.gl/gr6CWAug 11 18:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Lamm I can't keep a straight face.Aug 11 18:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @lamm Stand up for your freedom to install #freesoftware http://ur1.ca/5fq1q #gnu #linux #opensource #securebootAug 11 18:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] If keeping poor people in prison was cost effective the population would be greater.Aug 11 18:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] [HD-1080] Lufthansa Airbus #A380 - YouTube http://goo.gl/lDmtBAug 11 18:38
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DaemonFCI plan to vote for Obama now, no question about itAug 11 18:40
DaemonFCthe Ron Paul fantasy is over and we must stop Romney/RyanAug 11 18:40
DaemonFCI have a feeling that if they get in, it spells out a plan for throwing them out after 4 years and going back to a Democratic ticket that is more extreme than everAug 11 18:42
DaemonFCpeople running from one side to the other, for whoever promises that they can fix a system that is not fixable Aug 11 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm signer #11959 on the FSF petition—if this goes !Canada will find Free Software OS illegal under !copyright http://ur1.ca/9xnqr !CDNpoliAug 11 18:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Akshay Bist http://ur1.ca/9xnrlAug 11 18:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] New York's vibrator giveaway shows how far this sex toy has come http://goo.gl/Q1mIfAug 11 18:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Time to RUN! :-) http://ur1.ca/9xns1Aug 11 18:49
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TakinOverSo why don't you vote for a third party? If you already realize that voting for the two main parties is insanity, choose someone else.Aug 11 18:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why Acer Is Wrong About Microsoft Surface http://goo.gl/Ln84TAug 11 18:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Has any RH employee not been forced into taking a snap?Aug 11 18:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm signer #11959 on the FSF petition—if this goes !Canada will find Free Software OS illegal under !copyright http://ur1.ca/5h8t2 !CDNpoliAug 11 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #NathanMyhrvold, Do-Gooder http://goo.gl/LTnBt the difference between #IV & those he names = they actually create & market stuff, IV don'tAug 11 19:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I must have messed up somewhere, now try it^Aug 11 19:01
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MinceRif m$ should "think twice" about making stuff they're not good at, they should just close shopAug 11 19:03
DaemonFC DaemonFCAug 11 19:08
DaemonFCI happen to think that we should get out of this mentality that you have to wait for the engine to explode before you think about changing the oil.Aug 11 19:08
DaemonFCThat really is how "catastrophic care" insurance plans work. They scuttle all the money that could have gone to helping you STAY healthy and only kick in (maybe) when you get very very sick later.Aug 11 19:08
DaemonFC(on "catastrophic care" insurance plans)Aug 11 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ensuring #openaccess for publicly funded research - http://bit.ly/R19l9d @petersuber on the pros & cons of of UK policies #oaAug 11 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] How YouTube Will Escape Google’s New Pirate Penalty -http://selnd.com/OfMZiy #google is obviously run by #jesuits (v @howardknopf)Aug 11 19:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Pussy Riot's closing statement - http://bit.ly/RBkcUJ Yekaterina Samutsevich should be praised for this fine speech, not punished...Aug 11 19:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1855582Aug 11 19:25
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #sony makes more #linux tablets: New Sony XPERIA Tablet (All News/Details Here) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762902Aug 11 19:25
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schestowitz"Another in the list of locked tablets. No Xorg / Wayland drivers to install other Linux there, and so on. Not exciting."Aug 11 19:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1855262Aug 11 19:26
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: The Spin Cycle Washing Machine or The bicilavadora (Peru) All people know that a washer consumption is a big waste of energy, and a lot of occidental people waste a lot of time on exercise bike. In Peru they find a solution ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd4gPZAdQJw http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2009/itw-bicilavadora-0219.html #ecology #future #energy #save #earth #peru #washer #bicycle #student #mit #bivAug 11 19:26
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schestowitz"I want it!"Aug 11 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] Hello identicats! I'd like to start a #translator group here for professionals and anyone interested in #translation. #omegatAug 11 19:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Mother Nature lacks a War Chest ♻ @SusanFelicity Critics of climate change are losing their PR battle !cdnpoli http://ur1.ca/9xnwb /v @Org9Aug 11 19:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1855587Aug 11 19:26
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schestowitz"...and how do we vote away election fraud?"Aug 11 19:27
schestowitz"Didn't I see that hat on the Death Star?"Aug 11 19:27
DaemonFClmaoAug 11 19:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Stacked Ranking - http://tcrn.ch/MoHNre "a cancer eating away at #Microsoft’s ability to save itself." yupAug 11 19:28
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DaemonFCa local Tea Partier who runs a coffee shop and refused to implement Indiana's new smoking ban just got fined $2,500Aug 11 19:28
MinceRwell, i didn't get what i voted forAug 11 19:28
DaemonFChe's still refusing to implement it and joining a lawsuit trying to get the ban overturnedAug 11 19:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @lamm Hello identicats! I'd like to start a #translator group here for professionals and anyone interested in #translation. #omegatAug 11 19:29
DaemonFCmeanwhile, his fine is going to be $100 a day for each day he continues to refuse Aug 11 19:30
DaemonFChe'll back down eventually, after the state makes off with enough of his money for being an idiotAug 11 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Unravelling #TrapWire: CIA-Connected Global Suspicious Activity Surveillance System - http://bit.ly/OaXnFk fab (v @JasonLeopold @asteris)Aug 11 19:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The return of the "next president" flub - http://bit.ly/P1bQ8w interesting linguistic analysisAug 11 19:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Australian Gov't Drops Plan To #Snoop On Internet Use — For Now - http://bit.ly/P9mkQI UK government please follow suit immediatelyAug 11 19:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Must Read: http://larryrusswurm.com/2012/08/08/the-case-for-vampires-staking-vampires/ #humour !coffee #outofmynoseAug 11 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am at the stage of a Japanese senior nuclear employee. I can spend all the time in the sun & it will not matter.Aug 11 19:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ MT @NetizenProject New ad app Facedeals claims to use Facebook & facial recognition for check-ins http://ur1.ca/9xnyq /via @Org9 !privacyAug 11 19:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Australian Gov't Drops Plan To #Snoop On Internet Use — For Now - http://bit.ly/P9mkQI UK government please follow suit im ...Aug 11 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Australian Gov't Drops Plan To #Snoop On Internet Use—For Now - http://ur1.ca/9xnzb !Canada please follow suit !CDNpoli /v glynmoodyAug 11 19:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Olympics could safeguard the #BBC for another generation of UK TV viewers - http://tnw.co/Nh87EY good point; let's hope so...Aug 11 19:51
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schestowitz"Cool, a bit expensive though with 50$. Is there a cheaper direct way of using the GPIO pins?" https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1857448Aug 11 19:54
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Extending #Raspberry Pi's #GPIO Interface with Gertboard  http://www.muktware.com/4117/extending-raspberry-pis-gpio-interface-gertboard #linuxAug 11 19:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from glyn moody http://ur1.ca/9xo0bAug 11 19:54
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scienteshttp://ploum.net/post/freasy-future-for-gnomeAug 11 19:55
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scientes^^^this is greatAug 11 19:55
scientesthe "server mode" should be freedomboxAug 11 19:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1858737Aug 11 19:56
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: 5 popular #Linux distros http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/55103-5-popular-linux-distros.htmlAug 11 19:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Linux Founder #Linus Torvalds Delivers A Smackdown Like No Other - http://bit.ly/R1gI0e as this brilliant roundup demonstrates; hilariousAug 11 19:56
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schestowitz"Aug 11 19:57
schestowitzplease correct me, but here my opinion based on experience in finding a distro for a brand-new netbook over the span of a year:Aug 11 19:57
schestowitz#ubuntu - the drivers that let the noobs run audio, video and everything (nearly) out of the box. Nice.Aug 11 19:57
schestowitz#mint - lightweight, optimized for #netbooks, lovely, based on Ubuntu… and the Mint Debian is perfect for those who prefer the Debian over the Ubuntu packagesAug 11 19:57
schestowitz#SuSe - halfway between Ubuntu and Fedora, nice, but not for me.Aug 11 19:57
schestowitz#Debian - will run on your #Pentium2 (i guess) and the oldest still running boxes around in the cellar. Love the philosophy of sticking to the philosophy of "open/free source" - until it reaches the level where the problems with Hardware drivers on newest parts become a real pain. Else - guess why so many #Distros are based upon it (beginning with Ubuntu which serves as a basis for…) and much can be traced back to DebianAug 11 19:57
schestowitz#Fedora - ahead of it's time, which can cause problems for the regular schmoes. Must be a dream for the semi-pro and upwards league to work with, grand for software development, etc. but for me always a bit too fast forward. Looking forward to work with it another time - they'll still be around!Aug 11 19:57
schestowitzHope this might help somebody… cheers!Aug 11 19:57
schestowitz"Aug 11 19:57
schestowitz"#Fedora is just great, really"Aug 11 19:57
schestowitz"@Narek Babadjanyan - really nothing wrong with Fedora - it just doesn't work as it should here on my netbook, unless I go back at least two versions (fedora 15 works perfectly, 16 has issues) here. Wished it wasn't so - and no: I don't have the time or nerve at the moment to get deeper into troubleshooting. Thus my final lines in my comment on #Fedora"Aug 11 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Dan Gillmor http://ur1.ca/9xo16Aug 11 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] berlioz "tuba mirum" currently on Radio 3: surely the loudest piece ever written? certainly, when I sang it, I couldn't hear my top E flatsAug 11 19:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] In Brazil, All Vehicles Must Have Radio IDs By 2014 - http://bit.ly/Nuqxgk #brazil in the vanguards; get used to it....Aug 11 20:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] WIPO's Broadcasting Treaty is back: a treaty to end public domain, fair use & Creative Commons - http://bit.ly/ORLHWE really, really badAug 11 20:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] It is past my reading time !Tzaf Identizens.Aug 11 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 8/11/2012 -- Louisiana Sink Hole Explained -- POSSIBLE HUGE CATASTROPHE -- 100 Hiroshimas - YouTube http://goo.gl/jRhTI #xfilesAug 11 20:08
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DaemonFCIf Paul Ryan is elected vice president, I'm going to legally change my nameAug 11 20:10
DaemonFCI don't really like people throwing around the name "Ryan" and attaching it to the evil that he will help unleashAug 11 20:10
DaemonFCperhaps I will just take on my middle nameAug 11 20:11
schestowitz@Ryan Paul covers FOSS at ArsAug 11 20:15
schestowitzcovered at leastAug 11 20:15
schestowitzArs and that blog in particular have been quiet in recent years, maybe deprivation of fundsAug 11 20:15
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*schestowitz sets up squidAug 11 20:17
schestowitzright now squid complains, with a warning, about the configuration: Aug 11 20:17
schestowitzroot@proxy:~# /etc/init.d/squid3 restart Aug 11 20:17
schestowitzRestarting Squid HTTP Proxy 3.x: squid3 Waiting.....................done. Aug 11 20:17
schestowitzCreating Squid HTTP Proxy 3.x cache structure ... (warning). Aug 11 20:17
schestowitz2012/08/11 20:10:48| Creating Swap DirectoriesAug 11 20:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Seems like something for @kaz Patient Just Wants To See Data From His Implanted Medical Device - http://ur1.ca/9xo3fAug 11 20:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.barackobama.com/romney/ryan/Aug 11 20:25
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DaemonFCthat didn't tack longAug 11 20:25
DaemonFC*takeAug 11 20:25
*linuxperv is now known as misterbonnieAug 11 20:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Waterloo Region: Canada’s Innovation Hub http://www.ur1.ca/9xo5i #infographic !WRAesome !Canada #morethanjustablackberryAug 11 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Billy Zelsnack / projects http://ur1.ca/9xo68Aug 11 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] whew! crash went the screen as one or the other of the cats tried to lunge at a bird in the tree outside #NotEnoughRoomToSpringLuckilyAug 11 20:34
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Omegaschestowitz: hiAug 11 20:37
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schestowitzhi gffa, julius2Aug 11 20:43
gffaheyAug 11 20:43
Omegahey gffa, julius2 Aug 11 20:46
Omegaschestowitz: I think you have a faulty understanding of what commuism is if you claim china is communistAug 11 20:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan what's his merit? Another Palin?Aug 11 20:47
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schestowitzsome young lobbyhead against public healthAug 11 20:48
schestowitzOmega: it's a hybridAug 11 20:48
gffaschestowitz: The man believes in economical woo lik trickle-down economics and sound moneyAug 11 20:48
Omegano, it is not a bit communistAug 11 20:48
schestowitzit's communism for the majority, capitalism for those in powerAug 11 20:48
Omegacommunism is classless, stateless, moneyless and socialistAug 11 20:48
gffaschestowitz: the supposed "mastermind" behind the GOP budget plans as al alternative to those of the DemocratsAug 11 20:48
schestowitzrightAug 11 20:49
Omegachina is none of these thingsAug 11 20:49
gffanot that the plans weren't insaneAug 11 20:49
schestowitzit's pseudo-communistAug 11 20:49
schestowitzdevalued workersAug 11 20:49
Omegawhat do you mean with psuefo-communist?Aug 11 20:49
OmegadAug 11 20:49
schestowitzand some who exploit and herd them for profitAug 11 20:49
gffaschestowitz: What I like the most about him is that Ryan hates the public sector and proposes deregulation and tax cuts for the private sector while reducing public spendingAug 11 20:49
Omegabut that's a trait of capitalismAug 11 20:49
gffayet the man hasn't had a job his entire lifeAug 11 20:49
Omeganot communismAug 11 20:49
gffahe was bred for politicsAug 11 20:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is mfat from identi.ca with 64 dents!Aug 11 20:49
Omegacommunism is socialist, so the workers would own their labourAug 11 20:50
schestowitzgffa: he's part of the pro-Wall Street cabal, like MittensAug 11 20:50
DaemonFCschestowitz: No, he won't be fodder for comediansAug 11 20:50
schestowitzbut you don't have to vote for wall street running the countryAug 11 20:50
gffathe trick is not to do this: socialism = communism = bolshevism = stalinism = maoismAug 11 20:50
DaemonFCthere's nothing funny about the manAug 11 20:50
DaemonFChorrifying, yesAug 11 20:50
schestowitzyou can vote Obama, whose biggest sponsors are wall streetAug 11 20:50
schestowitzwhich makes his ties less obviousAug 11 20:50
schestowitz http://rt.com/usa/news/american-political-system-stein-360/Aug 11 20:50
DaemonFCactually, that's not true this yearAug 11 20:50
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gffastate socialism is for some the ideal economical enabler for communist societyAug 11 20:50
DaemonFCthey're mostly giving to Romney this timeAug 11 20:50
gffawhich is classless, moneyless and has the working-class in control of the means of productionAug 11 20:51
gffawhich, theoretically, makes it so tht there is no exploitation and coercion when it comes to workAug 11 20:51
schestowitztwitter is slowly dyingAug 11 20:51
gffaI never cared much for twitter anywayAug 11 20:52
OmegaI left twitter a while agoAug 11 20:52
Omega@OmegaAug 11 20:52
gffaChina is state capitalist btwAug 11 20:53
schestowitzmore users, no growth http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/twitter.comAug 11 20:53
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gffatypical for much social media, most people are lurkersAug 11 20:53
schestowitzidenti.ca might die soon http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/identi.caAug 11 20:54
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gffaFacebook statistics (that they don't like you to see that much) show that most of the time people like to spend their time on Facebook lurking at profiles of other peopleAug 11 20:54
Omegaschestowitz: thus, there is nothing communist about chinaAug 11 20:54
gffawhich don't even have to be their direct friends, per seAug 11 20:54
gffawhich kind of defeats the "friends" concept and twists it into some kind of vile audience experienceAug 11 20:55
OmegaThe "devalued workers" thing is a remnant of the red scareAug 11 20:55
schestowitzmaybe it isAug 11 20:56
Omegait has nothing to do with communismAug 11 20:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] that tooAug 11 20:56
Omegait's actually much more applicable to capitalismAug 11 20:56
MinceRoutside the special economic zones, red china is still statist communistAug 11 20:56
DaemonFCstalkersAug 11 20:56
DaemonFCpervertsAug 11 20:56
DaemonFCmaybe a few police officersAug 11 20:57
MinceRbut if you like more accurate examples, there's north korea and cubaAug 11 20:57
DaemonFCsome employers who might not like what they seeAug 11 20:57
DaemonFC(Facebook)Aug 11 20:57
Omegathat is simply not true MinceR Aug 11 20:57
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_ChinaAug 11 20:57
schestowitz"The Communist Party of China (CPC), also known as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), is the founding and ruling political party of the People's Republic of China (PRC)."Aug 11 20:57
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DaemonFCit's better to not use Facebook considering all the ways it can go wrongAug 11 20:58
gffaThey're as communist as PASOK is socialistAug 11 20:58
OmegaAnd North Korea is a democratic people's republic!Aug 11 20:58
schestowitz"Since becoming an institution of the state, aside from official commitment to communism and Marxism-Leninism, the party also has de facto unrecognized factions including consumerist and neoliberal figures including business people on the right who effectively support capitalism, as well as factions on the left that oppose the right in the party, and other factions."Aug 11 20:58
julius2oh shitAug 11 20:58
MinceRyes, they call themselves thatAug 11 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] well, I think it just makes its value obvious in certain quartersAug 11 20:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] part of the mosaic...Aug 11 20:58
gffaJust by calling oneself communist or socialist doesn't make you oneAug 11 20:58
OmegaThe Democratic People's Republic of Korea (Chosŏn'gŭl: 조선민주주의인민공화국), abbreviated to DPRK or PRK, and commonly referred to as North KoreaAug 11 20:58
julius2oopsAug 11 20:58
schestowitzmehAug 11 20:58
DaemonFCusing Facebook = passing out ammunition for people to use against youAug 11 20:58
gffalol democraticAug 11 20:58
gffalol people'sAug 11 20:58
MinceRif you keep claiming enough times that the system used in the USSR, PRC, north korea, etc. doesn't exist, maybe some day you'll believe itAug 11 20:59
DaemonFCDear Leader was democratically electedAug 11 20:59
DaemonFCby the peopleAug 11 20:59
DaemonFCin rigged electionsAug 11 20:59
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChinaAug 11 20:59
schestowitz"Nominally Marxist–Leninist single-party state[5][a]"Aug 11 20:59
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schestowitzfrom the summarAug 11 20:59
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OmegaMinceR: I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it's not communismAug 11 20:59
OmegaChina is state capitalistAug 11 20:59
schestowitzthe problem is, communist is not being vcharacterisedn correctlyAug 11 20:59
OmegaUSSR was state capitalistAug 11 20:59
schestowitzthat word never scared me much]Aug 11 20:59
schestowitzbeing associated with it, however, can be career suicideAug 11 20:59
MinceROmega: there seem to be some fundamentalist differences between those and actual capitalist statesAug 11 21:00
MinceRlike planned economyAug 11 21:00
Omega"actual capitalsit"?Aug 11 21:00
MinceRbut let's pretend they aren't thereAug 11 21:00
MinceRs/list/l/Aug 11 21:00
julius22oh shit, my king got tuberculosisAug 11 21:00
julius2heh, wrong channelAug 11 21:00
schestowitznationalist=death camp; communist=goulag... capitalist= waterboarding, invasion wars, carpet-bombing,drone attacks, corporations run country (fascism)?Aug 11 21:00
Omegajulius2 is such a monarchistAug 11 21:01
schestowitzjulius obama :-)Aug 11 21:01
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schestowitzBaer tooAug 11 21:01
Omegaschestowitz: actually the prison industrial complex improved on the gulagsAug 11 21:02
Omegathey've got it all masteredAug 11 21:02
schestowitzthey learned from 'labour' camps toooAug 11 21:02
schestowitzexcept the gassing and furnacesAug 11 21:02
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OmegaBut those were state-communists, but they don't reprisent "communism"Aug 11 21:03
schestowitzwhat IS communism?Aug 11 21:03
OmegasimpleAug 11 21:03
Omegaa stateless, classless, moneyless, socialist societyAug 11 21:03
schestowitzOne word that has not been shot in the back yet is "socialism"Aug 11 21:04
schestowitzOr "social justice"Aug 11 21:04
Omegacommunists are people who want to get to such a societyAug 11 21:04
schestowitzcommunists have leadersAug 11 21:04
Omeganot all communists agree with eachother on how you get to communismAug 11 21:04
schestowitzthose who exploit the uniformity belowAug 11 21:04
MinceRhere "socialism" and "communism" are used as synonymsAug 11 21:04
MinceR(except when the speaker tries to defend one by saying it's not the other, but not attaching any actual meaning to this statement)Aug 11 21:05
Omegayou have a divide between state communists and libertarian communistsAug 11 21:05
schestowitzin the US fascism and Nazism seem to have merged by conceptuslisationAug 11 21:05
Omegastate communists include stalin, lenin, mao, marxAug 11 21:05
MinceRis there such a thing as a "libertarian communist"?Aug 11 21:05
OmegayesAug 11 21:05
Omegaanarcho-communismAug 11 21:05
Omegaand some branches of libertarian marxism I guess would fit thereAug 11 21:06
OmegaAnarcho-communists don't think the way to communism is the way to get to communismAug 11 21:06
Omegabecause the state will just get corruptedAug 11 21:07
Omegaas did happenAug 11 21:07
Omegasee USSR, etc.Aug 11 21:07
OmegaAll the expamples usually thrown around as "communist"Aug 11 21:07
schestowitzwaitAug 11 21:07
schestowitz" communism is the way to get to communism"Aug 11 21:07
schestowitzanarchism?Aug 11 21:07
MinceRwhat was that "way to get to communism"?Aug 11 21:08
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Omegathe state is the way to communismAug 11 21:08
OmegasorryAug 11 21:08
Omegaso through political parties, etc.Aug 11 21:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1858691Aug 11 21:09
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schestowitz"There is an old established conspiracy theory that says the US and China are actively working to prevent re-unification, because a united Korea having the resources and expertise would be formidable."Aug 11 21:09
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schestowitz"Aug 11 21:10
schestowitzNo, there's nothing China would like more than to have the U.S. out of Korea altogether.Aug 11 21:10
schestowitzChina has always preferred to have buffer states around it and when they are invaded by an outside force, China comes in, as it did in this case, throw the invader out, then retreat back behind its own borders. As it has done.Aug 11 21:10
schestowitzChina feels no threat from Korea and works actively with it on a number of projects - but the Chinese military don't like the U.S. at all, while the Shandong set are hungry for everything Western and have the political control that facilitates the labour out-sourcing factor for Western production.Aug 11 21:10
schestowitz"Aug 11 21:10
OmegaWe (anarcho-communists) believe that the change should come from the bottom upAug 11 21:11
Omegathe people need to lead the revolutionAug 11 21:11
Omegaand have a saying in their own livesAug 11 21:11
Omegabecause they know better than anyone else the issues that affect themAug 11 21:11
OmegaThey need to take control of their livesAug 11 21:12
Omegain all aspectsAug 11 21:12
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OmegaTheir workplaces should be collectivised (this simply means that they would be in control of it instead of the managers, bosses, owners and/or shareholders)Aug 11 21:13
OmegaSo they get to enjoy the fruits of their labourAug 11 21:13
Omegabecause the idea of capitalism (basically boils down to forever ownership without use) is just sillyAug 11 21:14
MinceRif that's how you define capitalismAug 11 21:14
Omegaprivate ownership of the means of productionAug 11 21:14
Omegaboils down to you can own something for eternity even without using itAug 11 21:15
Omegait's "just yours"Aug 11 21:15
OmegaforeverAug 11 21:15
Omegaand that idea is just sillyAug 11 21:15
MinceRfrom our previous discussions it seemed that even in anarcho-communism you can own something for eternity without using itAug 11 21:15
MinceRit just has to be not a factory or something like thatAug 11 21:15
Omegayou need to use somethingAug 11 21:16
Omegawe recognize usageAug 11 21:16
gffaOwnership is based on needAug 11 21:16
gffathere is no inheritanceAug 11 21:16
cubezzzuh, well we all have finite lifespansAug 11 21:16
cubezzzso no "forever" thereAug 11 21:16
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schestowitzdependsAug 11 21:16
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MinceRwe might eventually get infinite lifespans, with technologyAug 11 21:16
schestowitzsome people dpn't "believe" thatAug 11 21:16
gffaSome things are just true, they are not a matter of choice or opinionAug 11 21:17
schestowitzyesterday had argument with a friend who thinks that consciousness passes to another being when one diesAug 11 21:17
MinceRhmm... no inheritance, interesting ideaAug 11 21:17
schestowitzmakes senseAug 11 21:17
MinceRimagine building a house, having kids, living with them there, and dyingAug 11 21:17
schestowitzgive people what they deserveAug 11 21:17
gffaI can't choose not to accept the 1789 revolution in France, or Napoleon's march to Moscow in 1812Aug 11 21:17
Omegacubezzz: inheritence, and corporations can own property, and they don't have finite lifetimesAug 11 21:17
MinceRand then the communists kick the kids out because there's no inheritanceAug 11 21:17
cubezzzsure they do Omega Aug 11 21:17
schestowitznot what others are no longer capatble of usingAug 11 21:17
cubezzzno company will last forever eitherAug 11 21:17
schestowitzImagine what happens when a Rothschild or Fockerfeller diesAug 11 21:17
schestowitzor Bill GatesAug 11 21:17
schestowitzwealth to become distributed among societyAug 11 21:18
Omegacubezzz: your critique doesn't solve the issue at allAug 11 21:18
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schestowitzstill there's motivation to work hard, but the money eventually comes back to allAug 11 21:18
OmegaMinceR: your kids are using it, why would they get kicked out?Aug 11 21:18
cubezzzGates kids each get 1 millionAug 11 21:18
schestowitzYou use what you earnAug 11 21:19
cubezzzso there's no dynastic wealth there eitherAug 11 21:19
schestowitznot what some predecessors leftAug 11 21:19
cubezzzstill, a million isn't bad :)Aug 11 21:19
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cubezzzit would be nice if everyone started with $50K or something like thatAug 11 21:19
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schestowitzleech is torrent terminology, hmmmm..Aug 11 21:20
OmegaBut this "slight redistribution of capital" does not solve the problems of capitalismAug 11 21:20
schestowitzit puts barirers on greedAug 11 21:20
schestowitzyou can enjoy wealthAug 11 21:20
schestowitzfor a lifetimeAug 11 21:20
schestowitzmaybe 50 yearsAug 11 21:20
Omegaand others can enjoy povertyAug 11 21:20
schestowitzthen it's time for people to start again from scratch, based on their achievementAug 11 21:20
cubezzzyeah there's a distribution prob, big-timeAug 11 21:20
DaemonFCschestowitz: That's why the very rich want the repeal of the estate taxAug 11 21:21
DaemonFCso they can give all their money to their undeserving childrenAug 11 21:21
schestowitznationalise walmart when the founder diesAug 11 21:21
Omegaunder capitalism, there must be poverty for there to be wealthAug 11 21:21
schestowitzthere's reward to the maketAug 11 21:21
schestowitza lifetime of wealthAug 11 21:21
cubezzzplus a lot of poor people do make really bad decisionsAug 11 21:21
Omegabecause to have a lot of capital means to deprive it from othersAug 11 21:21
DaemonFCschestowitz: The founder of Walmart is deadAug 11 21:21
schestowitzafter that it does not incentivise returns for achievementAug 11 21:21
schestowitzit just makes a hoarder's cusionAug 11 21:21
schestowitzshionAug 11 21:21
DaemonFChis children and Wall Street have turned it into more of a rapacious shark than even Sam Walton could have imaginedAug 11 21:21
schestowitzDaemonFC: so nationalise itAug 11 21:21
cubezzzright, I think we're past the identifying the problem stageAug 11 21:22
gffacubezzz: the problem is that rich people can afford to make mistakesAug 11 21:22
schestowitzwould help remove the debt, which is caused by few people in the US hoarding trillions, then lending it to the govt. indirectly, cashing in WITH INTERESTAug 11 21:22
gffacubezzz: while poor people don't have the luxury to do soAug 11 21:22
Omegawe're trying to fix a crack in the dam with a band aidAug 11 21:22
gffaSocial Mobility is practically dead in the United States right nowAug 11 21:22
cubezzzgffa, that is a problem, but I put that down to lack of a good mentorAug 11 21:23
gffaAs George Carlin put it: "It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it"Aug 11 21:23
schestowitzall about money... Warren Buffett toilet paper, aka USDAug 11 21:23
Omegacubezzz: the problem is that it is ALLOWED to exisAug 11 21:23
OmegatAug 11 21:23
gffacubezzz: Let's look at state education vs private education aloneAug 11 21:23
cubezzzif your Dad is great with money, that's going to rub off, at least to some degreeAug 11 21:23
Omegapoverty is allowed to existAug 11 21:23
schestowitzDreams used to be about something elseAug 11 21:23
Omegastarvation is allowed to existAug 11 21:23
gffacubezzz: and how a stable family life where you never had to worry about basic needs or even luxury?Aug 11 21:24
Omegawe have enough food to feed the world, but we throw a lot of it away because it isn't profitableAug 11 21:24
schestowitzneed not existAug 11 21:24
gffawho fed you?Aug 11 21:24
gffawho clothed you?Aug 11 21:24
gffawho taught you?Aug 11 21:24
gffawho entertained you?Aug 11 21:24
gffathis all adds upAug 11 21:24
gffaNothing comes innately aside from basic aptitudes and intellectAug 11 21:24
gffasomething you shouldn't be proud of either, because you did nothing to get itAug 11 21:25
cubezzzI don't bother with luxury itemsAug 11 21:25
cubezzzI'm pretty frugalAug 11 21:25
OmegaYet because we live in an anti-egalitarian society you are punished for just livingAug 11 21:25
schestowitzcubezzz: you MUST BE A SAD MAN!! :-)Aug 11 21:25
gffaSocial Darwinism (Applying survival of the fittest in a social context) is both unethical and irrational because one layer of society (the one that advocates it the most) is exempted from it foreverAug 11 21:26
Omegacubezzz: don't you love your country??? buy more to support capitalism!!!Aug 11 21:26
gffacubezzz: Well, if you realised that materialism or even commericalism isn't the one true path to happiness then you are ahead of a lot of othersAug 11 21:27
cubezzzyeah I'm zenning out a bit :)Aug 11 21:28
OmegaOthers let starvation continue just so they can keep making profits, just for more materialAug 11 21:28
gffathe Great Famine in Ireland is the best example of thisAug 11 21:29
cubezzzI know itAug 11 21:29
gffaAt all times during the famine there was more food produced than there was neededAug 11 21:30
gffayet people starved because it was mostly exported for profitAug 11 21:30
gffaOmega: Yeah, it always comes down to Capitalism operating from the idea of scarcityAug 11 21:31
cubezzzwell, it's another example of mono-cultureAug 11 21:31
OmegaWhen people are motivated by profit, don't be surprised when they show no regard for sufferingAug 11 21:31
gffavs the alternatives seeing that there is plentyAug 11 21:31
gffadistribution is keyAug 11 21:31
cubezzzall that dependency on one crop: potatoesAug 11 21:31
gffamoving to the needful instead of the needlessAug 11 21:31
gffacubezzz: Great Britain has blood on their hands for thatAug 11 21:32
cubezzzmost problems stem from poor managementAug 11 21:32
Omegacubezzz: that was not the problem, they had the food, they grew the food, it's just that they don't own the fruits (or potatoes) of their labour, the "owners" do.Aug 11 21:32
gffaIt's unfortunate that they didn't show their history of being a superpower that murdered so many people during the OlympicsAug 11 21:32
gffacubezzz: no, it was _good_ managmeentAug 11 21:32
gffagreat for businessAug 11 21:32
gffathe market thrivedAug 11 21:32
gffajust not so good for the workersAug 11 21:32
OmegaThe majority of your waking life is spent working, the place where most people have absolutely no sayingAug 11 21:35
Omegathe least democratic part of lifeAug 11 21:35
Omegait is a dictatorshipAug 11 21:35
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MinceRwould anarcho-communism provide life without working at the same tech level?Aug 11 21:36
OmegaHmm?Aug 11 21:37
OmegaI don't understand the questionAug 11 21:37
gffaMinceR: Unemployment is a design mechanic of capitalism, but yes, I see no reason why it shouldn't be possible to retain our current standard of living in this industrialized society under something different than capitalismAug 11 21:40
MinceRthat's not what the question was aboutAug 11 21:40
gffaThen please, clarifyAug 11 21:41
OmegaIf we would see the same number of technical advancements?Aug 11 21:41
MinceROmega claimed that spending most of your waking life working was specific to capitalismAug 11 21:41
OmegaMinceR: I think we would spend less time working, yesAug 11 21:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ah, not so goodAug 11 21:41
MinceRit seems to me that this is due to the amount of resources consumed for lifeAug 11 21:41
MinceROmega but how much less?Aug 11 21:41
gffano surplus of labour is needed anymoreAug 11 21:41
OmegaThink of all the time wasted by bureaucracies, advertising, competitionAug 11 21:42
gffaMinceR: unknown, but we can say that just working a few hours every day would be enough to suit basic needsAug 11 21:42
Omegaall the innovation held back because of patents, etc.Aug 11 21:42
MinceRwe can say, but we don't know if it's trueAug 11 21:42
MinceROmega: agreed on bureaucracies and patentsAug 11 21:42
OmegaAnd what we produce would be much more reusable, instead of commodified like nowAug 11 21:43
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Omegabecause they have to keep you buying new products everytimeAug 11 21:43
Omegaso you would see more open hardware, easier to mod, improve uponAug 11 21:43
gffathere would be no need for exponential growth anymoreAug 11 21:43
gffano artificial scarcity and commoditiesAug 11 21:43
Omegabecause you wouldn't need to compete, you can just work together to make the best productAug 11 21:44
gffaalso, no more "useless shit"Aug 11 21:44
Omegayour success does not depend on the other's failiure anymoreAug 11 21:44
MinceRlack of competition didn't do any good to economyAug 11 21:45
OmegaWhat do you mean?Aug 11 21:45
Omegahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJcAug 11 21:45
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MinceRfor example, here in hungary, under the previous dictatorship, that had a planned economy, even the dictator realised that they used triple the resources to make worse products than the "capitalist" systems didAug 11 21:45
OmegaThat's a good video about what motivates peopleAug 11 21:45
OmegaMinceR: that just means that when people are forced to do something they might put less effort into itAug 11 21:46
MinceRcompetition promotes innovation and allows competing ideas to thriveAug 11 21:46
Omegano one is talking about dorcing anyomeAug 11 21:46
MinceRor would you rather have everyone use windows?Aug 11 21:46
gffatoo many variables at play to know for sure that was called by the planned economy or something elseAug 11 21:46
Omegacompetition promotes duplication of effortAug 11 21:47
MinceR"too many variables at play", but you're just sure that eliminating competition would improve the economyAug 11 21:47
OmegaMinceR: I mean economic competition btwAug 11 21:47
gffaMinceR: Windows is fundamentally different from WindowsAug 11 21:47
MinceRgffa: huh?Aug 11 21:47
gffaI wouldn't say that is a duplication of effort to follow different pathsAug 11 21:47
gffa*LinuxAug 11 21:47
Omeganot just two people with different ideasAug 11 21:48
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MinceRwell yes, that's how competition usually worksAug 11 21:48
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gffais it?Aug 11 21:48
MinceRit's not about replicating the exact same product over and over againAug 11 21:48
gffawe were talking about the economical levelAug 11 21:48
OmegaEconomic competition, where one parties success depends upon the others' failureAug 11 21:48
MinceRit did, if there was only one buyerAug 11 21:48
MinceRand he needed only one itemAug 11 21:48
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schestowitzhi yeksmeshAug 11 21:49
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OmegaMinceR: But two ideas are allowed to exist in anarcho-communismAug 11 21:51
Omegaheck, no one is going to tell you you can't work on an idea of yoursAug 11 21:51
gffaindeedAug 11 21:51
DaemonFCMinceR: The exploding Soviet TV setsAug 11 21:52
MinceRexcept for at least one idea you've already said is disallowedAug 11 21:52
OmegaYou'd be free to work on it, not having to worry about "surviving", because your needs will be metAug 11 21:52
Omegahuh?Aug 11 21:52
gffaThe idea of oppressing others for profit?Aug 11 21:53
gffayepAug 11 21:53
MinceRin real anarchy, worker-owned factories could exist side by side with privately owned onesAug 11 21:53
MinceRand there could be competition in a free marketAug 11 21:53
OmegaI just explained why capitalism is a problem :cAug 11 21:53
Omegaand capitalism is hierarchicalAug 11 21:53
Omegathe capitalist has power over youAug 11 21:53
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Omegathe owner owns all your labour, and gives you a part of it back (as a wage)Aug 11 21:55
Omegabut it is very much hierarchicalAug 11 21:55
MinceRwhere's the hierarchy?Aug 11 21:55
Omegabut indeed, anarchism is not compatible with the oppression of othersAug 11 21:55
gffahttp://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/capitalism-in-a-nutshell.jpgAug 11 21:55
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DaemonFCat least if Romney is defeated, it's the last we'll hear of Paul RyanAug 11 21:55
gffagoodAug 11 21:55
MinceRyes, and ownership is oppression, right?Aug 11 21:56
gffaCan you make a convincing case that private property is not oppression?Aug 11 21:56
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MinceRcan you make a convincing case that it is?Aug 11 21:56
gffaDidn't we?Aug 11 21:57
gffaOmega: didn't we?Aug 11 21:57
MinceRyou didn'tAug 11 21:57
OmegaYes we didAug 11 21:57
Omegaover and over againAug 11 21:57
MinceRyou made a convincing case that private property could play a part in some forms of oppressionAug 11 21:57
MinceRwhich is not the same thingAug 11 21:57
Omegacapitalism isn't the problem, it's just that sociopaths have all the money!!!Aug 11 21:58
*gffa sighsAug 11 21:58
Omegamaybe that's because capitalism REWARDS sociopathic behaviourAug 11 21:58
gffa^Aug 11 21:58
Omegaif you don't care about anything, nothing is in your way of making as much profit as possibleAug 11 21:59
DaemonFCthe market has started reacting to the Paul Ryan nominationAug 11 21:59
DaemonFCmy Obama shares are now at $5.87Aug 11 21:59
DaemonFCup 4 centsAug 11 21:59
MinceRobama shares?Aug 11 21:59
DaemonFCMitt Romney has fallen 3 centsAug 11 22:00
Squee-Linus ?bow down before me, you scum? TorvaldsAug 11 22:00
Squee-HahahahaAug 11 22:00
DaemonFCMinceR: IntradeAug 11 22:00
DaemonFCyou purchase shares of contractsAug 11 22:00
DaemonFCif the contract is fulfilled, the payout is $10 a shareAug 11 22:00
MinceRoh, bets on who winsAug 11 22:00
DaemonFCthe dollar value is what the market predicts the odds are for something happensAug 11 22:00
gffaMinceR: It comes down to the pros vs cons of having capital own the means of production vs social control of itAug 11 22:00
DaemonFC Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012Aug 11 22:01
DaemonFC38.3% CHANCEAug 11 22:01
DaemonFCLast prediction was: $3.83 / shareAug 11 22:01
gffaand, if you want to really go there, the risks vs the [potential] rewardsAug 11 22:01
DaemonFCToday's Change: -$0.03 (-0.8%) Aug 11 22:01
DaemonFCohhhAug 11 22:01
OmegaMinceR: if you'd like to read it more in-depth have a look here: http://anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secB3.htmlAug 11 22:01
gffaDaemonFC: Didn't you know, Mitt Romney said Paul Ryan would be the next presidentAug 11 22:01
DaemonFCObama just went up againAug 11 22:01
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gffahe didn't introduce his running mateAug 11 22:01
gffahe IS the running mateAug 11 22:01
DaemonFCmy shares are at $5.89 nowAug 11 22:01
DaemonFC Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012Aug 11 22:02
DaemonFC58.9% CHANCEAug 11 22:02
DaemonFCLast prediction was: $5.89 / shareAug 11 22:02
DaemonFCToday's Change: +$0.06 (+1%) Aug 11 22:02
DaemonFCMinceR: I bought in at $4.23 a share last yearAug 11 22:02
gffaLies, Damn lies, and StatisticsAug 11 22:02
DaemonFCif I hold onto them and he wins, I will make $5.77 per share in profitAug 11 22:03
MinceROmega: yes, i'm aware that communists don't like private propertyAug 11 22:03
DaemonFCI have 25 sharesAug 11 22:03
gffaMinceR: Are you aware why?Aug 11 22:03
MinceRi amAug 11 22:03
gffavery wellAug 11 22:03
DaemonFCif Obama wins, I make $144.25 in profitAug 11 22:03
DaemonFCpayout total of $250 on bet of $105.75Aug 11 22:04
OmegaMinceR: what arguments do you find to be unconvincing?Aug 11 22:04
DaemonFCI like my oddsAug 11 22:04
gffaThe really important question no one has dared to ask yet: How did Romney's Olympic Horse perform at the Olympics?Aug 11 22:04
DaemonFCthere are many more paths to an Obama victory through the electoral collegeAug 11 22:04
gffaThe horse has healthcare, and its stable costs more than the median housing priceAug 11 22:05
DaemonFCMitt Romney will have to hold onto all of the Republican strongholds and peel off almost all of the swing statesAug 11 22:05
gffaI like how Ann Romney has driving cadilacs as a hobbyAug 11 22:05
DaemonFCif Obama does that bad this year, then it means that we have to throw out everything we know about how to approach "Independent" votersAug 11 22:06
gffaIf there is one thing I like about the US elections it is how it is centered around ethos and pathosAug 11 22:06
gffathere is no logosAug 11 22:06
MinceROmega: the part where some abuses of private property make all of it unacceptable is the least convincingAug 11 22:06
MinceRif only the ethoses were significantly different from each otherAug 11 22:07
DaemonFCVirginia, Colorado, and New Mexico are the three where the Republicans have a serious problem brewingAug 11 22:07
DaemonFCVirginia is starting to behave like a northern state and New Mexico and Colorado have growing populations of Hispanic votersAug 11 22:07
DaemonFCthe Republicans are far from guaranteed victories here in three states that have never been very competitive until 2008Aug 11 22:08
DaemonFCMitt Romney has a very big problem in Iowa, because he has said he wants to cut wind energy tax creditsAug 11 22:09
gffawhat about Utah?Aug 11 22:09
DaemonFCIowa is a very windy state and a lot of the American jobs that make the wind turbines are in IowaAug 11 22:09
gffawill the most religious state vote for a mormon?Aug 11 22:09
DaemonFCdefinitelyAug 11 22:09
DaemonFCIowa is not in question, it will go for RomneyAug 11 22:09
DaemonFCI mean UtahAug 11 22:09
DaemonFCderpAug 11 22:09
DaemonFCUtah is heavily RepublicanAug 11 22:10
DaemonFCObama has less than 3% chance of winning UtahAug 11 22:10
DaemonFChe has a long shot of winning Arizona, but it is only about 20-25% depending on the model we useAug 11 22:10
gffaI always hated "God bless America" as something te president should sayAug 11 22:10
gffaand how "In God we Trust" is printed on the DollarAug 11 22:11
gffaAt least someone still believes in the Dollar...Aug 11 22:11
gffaMinceR: I'd say the personality cults are fundamentally different. Romney is handsome and has typical businessman charisma. He is a capitalist with a nice smile. What he lacks is sincerity and authenticityAug 11 22:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @schestowitz Microsoft-funded mouthpiece finally says #android is a leader http://ur1.ca/9xm9d (Android races past Apple in smartphon ...Aug 11 22:13
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MinceRboth parties represent the same megacorporations that own both partiesAug 11 22:13
gffaObama is trying to pull the 2008 Change campaign again, which is problemaitc since people are more skeptical now after 4 years of officeAug 11 22:13
gffaMinceR: ofcourseAug 11 22:13
MinceRooh, more No Change?Aug 11 22:13
gffabut the Democrats make the rhetorical shift to the left during elecgtion timeAug 11 22:13
gffa*electionAug 11 22:13
gffaa lot of demogagyAug 11 22:14
gffaand he tries to ride the "I brought you the head of Osama Bin Laden"Aug 11 22:14
MinceR:>Aug 11 22:14
gffaerrr.. "I ordered soldiers to cap Osama in the head and dump his body in the ocean" Aug 11 22:14
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gffaRomney doesn't try to hide the fact that he tries to sell people trickle-down economicsAug 11 22:15
OmegaMinceR: no, it's just that the benefits don't make up for the abusesAug 11 22:15
gffahis campaign even states that doubling income disparity is on the agendaAug 11 22:15
gffaat least the Democrats lieAug 11 22:15
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OmegaMinceR: how do you justify allowing ownership forever without usage?Aug 11 22:19
MinceROmega: how do you justify taking property from others claiming they weren't using the property?Aug 11 22:19
Diablo-D3how do you justify trolling on irc?Aug 11 22:20
gffaThere is an obvious distinction between possession and propertyAug 11 22:22
gffaa hammer is obviously possessionAug 11 22:22
gffabut 50 hammers is propertyAug 11 22:22
MinceRi don't see what's obvious thereAug 11 22:22
gffaa factory isn't something you use as much as have others pay you to use itAug 11 22:23
MinceRi don't see why someone should come and steal my hammers just because i bought my fiftieth hammer todayAug 11 22:23
gffa*as you haveAug 11 22:23
gffano?Aug 11 22:23
gffaahAug 11 22:23
OmegaMinceR: you need to recognize that "property" is an imaginary conceptAug 11 22:23
gffaI see what is going on hereAug 11 22:23
MinceROmega: i suppose so is "freedom"Aug 11 22:23
Omegaif you want to implement it, you have to explain why it is neededAug 11 22:23
gffa"bought" is the magic wordAug 11 22:23
gffayou need a hammer? here's a hammerAug 11 22:23
gffait shouldn't be something you'd have to buyAug 11 22:24
MinceRyeah, it just grows on treesAug 11 22:24
gffayesAug 11 22:24
gffait does, actuallyAug 11 22:24
OmegaMinceR: you don't "implement" "freedom"Aug 11 22:24
MinceRit's not like someone had to do actual work to produce itAug 11 22:24
MinceROmega: well, not infringing on it would sufficeAug 11 22:24
gffamutal aid and tradeAug 11 22:24
gffa*mutualAug 11 22:24
gffaThis is pretty basic stuff which I don't feel like explaining here in high detailAug 11 22:25
MinceRthen don'tAug 11 22:25
gffaIf you are interested in this you can pick up some literatureAug 11 22:25
MinceROmega: and how do you implement "ownership"?Aug 11 22:25
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/95997052Aug 11 22:25
TechrightsBot-tr@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Saturday, 11-Aug-12 21:15:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @ovigia funny i burnt a cd an hour ago to try it out tomorrow :)Aug 11 22:25
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gffaThe problem is that you hilight one concept of the alternative and try to mold it into the capitalist system you live in now. It is obvious that's not going to work. Aug 11 22:27
gffaYou either do the whole thing, or you don't do it at allAug 11 22:27
MinceRthen i won't do it at allAug 11 22:28
gffait's like trying to install a package without satisfying the dependencies and removing the conflicts firstAug 11 22:28
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OmegaAnarchism favors possession and use or usufructuary control (as opposed to usurious). Cooperative control is resultant of non-hierarchical organizing. That is, coordinated anarchistic efforts are without a definitive, immutable, leader. A single individual holding a deed with everyone else subjugated is an autocracy... The why behind rejecting such feudal arrangements (besides the obvious) is that entitlements, or control of capital, is the ratioAug 11 22:28
MinceRyes, let's misrepresent anarchism as if it was anarcho-communismAug 11 22:29
MinceRlike that page you keep linkingAug 11 22:29
Omegano one is doing thatAug 11 22:29
Omegaanarchism is anticapitalistAug 11 22:29
Omegathere is no doubt about thatAug 11 22:29
MinceRa stateless society does not imply lack of ownershipAug 11 22:29
Omegaanarchism is much more than mere "antistatism"Aug 11 22:29
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gffaI'm skeptical that you are familiar with the differencesAug 11 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Another example of Hollywood madness http://ur1.ca/9xolc #WhyIdon'tGoTo1stRunMoviesAnyMore !copyrightAug 11 22:29
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MinceRso you keep sayingAug 11 22:30
gffaanti-state != anarchismAug 11 22:30
MinceRso you keep sayingAug 11 22:30
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MinceRi guess 3 terms just aren't enough to cover the thing you're promotingAug 11 22:30
OmegaThe first person to call themselves an anarchist (Proudhon) was also the author of "What Is Property?"Aug 11 22:31
OmegaA critique of capitalismAug 11 22:31
gffaOne encompasses the other. With a technical background you should be familiar with the concept of nestingAug 11 22:31
OmegaCapitalism is also hierarchicalAug 11 22:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @theru @nybill he I get the top denter from mrdenticator :) I'm always amazed how many people from different cultures are on identi.ca :)Aug 11 22:31
Omegaboss>workerAug 11 22:31
OmegahierarchyAug 11 22:31
Omegait ALLOWS this, therefor it is hierarchicaAug 11 22:32
OmegalAug 11 22:32
MinceRnesting is mostly useless if you just nest things you say are equal to each other inside each otherAug 11 22:32
Omega?Aug 11 22:32
MinceRwe've discussed the boss thing beforeAug 11 22:32
gffaYou like wikipedia, right? First paragraph of the article on AnarchismAug 11 22:32
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MinceRyes, i can see that paragraphAug 11 22:34
MinceRsomehow it doesn't say anything about property or ownership anywhereAug 11 22:34
Omegahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPUvQZ3rcQAug 11 22:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Rats! Tomorrows rainy forecast will likely mess up viewing of the Perseid Meteor shower :(Aug 11 22:41
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OmegaIt seems as you are unfamiliar with what capitalism, and anarchism isAug 11 22:41
OmegaMinceR: Aug 11 22:41
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OmegaAnarchism has always been anticapitalistAug 11 22:42
Omegabecause capitalism is hierarchicalAug 11 22:42
MinceRi thought of capitalism as something different from what the current version of the wikipedia defines it asAug 11 22:42
OmegaCapitalism is the private ownership of the means of productionAug 11 22:43
MinceRi still think that the right to own property, a market-based economy (as opposed to a planned economy) and a free market are importantAug 11 22:45
MinceRand the lack of either leads to well known problemsAug 11 22:45
Omegafalse dichotomyAug 11 22:47
Omegait's not either market or plannedAug 11 22:47
OmegaI fancy gift economies myselfAug 11 22:48
Omegawhat do you mean with the "right to own property"?Aug 11 22:48
MinceRi'm not sure if gift economy could apply in all cases in an economy where there still is scarcityAug 11 22:48
MinceRi think it's obvious what it meansAug 11 22:48
OmeganoAug 11 22:48
Omegait's notAug 11 22:48
Omegawhat do you mean with ownership?Aug 11 22:49
Omegaand propertyAug 11 22:49
MinceRthe idea of an object belonging to a personAug 11 22:49
MinceRwith that person getting to decide how the object is used and by whomAug 11 22:50
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