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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Jan Wildeboer http://ur1.ca/a0hckAug 23 00:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @stav: Can atheists get insurance for acts of God? !humorAug 23 00:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Hey artists and writers, the great DJ Spooky is accepting submissions for a book on apps. bit.ly/Q0gUvmAug 23 00:58
DaemonFCyou still see "Acts of God" in insurance policies and warranties sometimesAug 23 01:05
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DaemonFCdo they really have no better way of saying "shit happens"?Aug 23 01:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1886324Aug 23 01:19
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Is #GNOME Still Needed? http://www.datamation.com/open-source/is-gnome-still-needed-1.html #linuxAug 23 01:19
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schestowitz"Aug 23 01:19
schestowitzThe tone does feel a bit like the (getting boring now) repetition of the "OMG WTF, Gnome 3?" litany, but I think the kernel of this article is worth saving: Gnome is now analagous to Debian in terms of spawning an ecosystem while becoming more apparently obscure, and like with Debian, its continued development remains crucial for much the same reasons.Aug 23 01:19
schestowitzOf course, at its best, Linux can remain easy-to-use even with many different window managers, but there's definite value in keeping the roots watered even when the leaves are what everyone pays attention to.Aug 23 01:19
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] "Rape is not a joke" - so even if the allegations are false (no charges against Assange, previously waved away claims too) "don't apologise"Aug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #assange was trying to avoid media exposure at personal level until around 2010; it's easier to attack people-not truth-w/ mere allegationsAug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Linux 3.4 to be maintained for two years http://t.co/KQ1skffA #kernelAug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Deadline looms for second #UK #Linux security challenge http://t.co/W9BZlDlWAug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Warren deBaron[fet] says rich people should pay more tax, but pays no tax, hides his money in bogus "foundation". Can't make this stuff up.Aug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Codethink launches little #Linux #ARM servers with 8 quad-core CPUs per node http://t.co/qIW5LDgl "eight quad-core ARM CPUs"Aug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[wikileaks] Reference time line of US investigations of Manning, Assange, & WikiLeaks. A work in progress. http://t.co/zv9bK83cAug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Windows brought viruses to cars http://t.co/Z59NuUkZ #x86 #intelAug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Systemd to secure system log information against attacks http://t.co/k4axyWe1 #linuxAug 23 01:19
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #PowerTOP 2.1 supports GPUs and more languages http://t.co/aE1zvxxn #linuxAug 23 01:19
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Is the defendant typically guaranteed the right to attend their own trial and confront their accuser in Europe?  Aug 23 01:21
DaemonFCin the US, at least, you can't be tried in absenceAug 23 01:21
DaemonFCstates used to be able to do that until Incorporation (the fourteenth amendment)Aug 23 01:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] SB1434, @EFF sponsored CA location privacy bill passes Assembly; going soon to @JerryBrownGov https://eff.org/r.3aj2Aug 23 01:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Steve Yelvington http://ur1.ca/a0hjyAug 23 01:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] With all these strange statements on rape by republicans in the USofA, I do wonder if it makes sense to fight Talibans... http://b1t.it/bXKuAug 23 01:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Sleepy time. Sending some positive vibes to someone 1200 km away. Please join me in that. She deserves them. #kthxbai  Aug 23 01:43
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ZiomatrixSeems many key Nokia shareholders want Elop fired: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/08/open-letter-to-nokia-shareholders.htmlAug 23 01:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] [$] LWN.net Weekly Edition for August 23, 2012 http://ur1.ca/a0hoyAug 23 02:01
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DaemonFCschestowitz: It's not a shock that Disney is anti-open source, because they are partially owned by Apple iircAug 23 02:03
DaemonFCwhat is ironic is that Apple bases their proprietary software on a TON of open source softwareAug 23 02:03
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: also their history on being a key hegimon  within the MPAA. Who slam anything they think can work around DRM.Aug 23 02:04
DaemonFCI think that almost nobody would argue that copyright shouldn't existAug 23 02:06
DaemonFCbut what's sickening about Disney is that they argue that copyright terms should never endAug 23 02:06
DaemonFCyeah, they're right in line with the MPAA and RIAA on thatAug 23 02:06
DaemonFCthe point of copyright was not about assigning "ownership" of a work, it was about providing a temporary monopoly on the work to the person who created the work, as a reward to them, so that they could exclusively profit from it for a limited time (say 15-20 years)Aug 23 02:08
DaemonFCand thanks to the MAFIAA lobbying, that term has been increasing over the last several decades, and even old Disney cartoons from the 1930s are still copyright-encumberedAug 23 02:08
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: well they want to claim they own Mickey Mouse for eternity. How dare if a child draws anything of their likeness. They also keep their Blu-Ray DRM up to date which means you have to update the firmware of player with every release and if you can't..Aug 23 02:09
DaemonFCand the list of permissible fair use exceptions is getting smaller and smaller, with the goal of total eliminationAug 23 02:09
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: its a huge problem when it comes to historical archiving. Aug 23 02:10
DaemonFCwhat's particularly offensive, to me, is that thousands of works entered the public domain in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and then the US Congress retroactively re-copyrighted them in the 90sAug 23 02:10
DaemonFCand the Supreme Court let them get away with thatAug 23 02:10
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: Perhaps next these companies can retroactively sue.Aug 23 02:11
DaemonFCit has gotten to the point where they're even suing other people who have created other works that they claim are "too similar" to something that was copyrightedAug 23 02:12
DaemonFCeven suing each otherAug 23 02:12
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: how dare that artist showed a few second clip of Steam Boat Willy in that 20yr old music video and profits from it.Aug 23 02:12
DaemonFCyou might have noticed that there have been a flood of B movies lately that are strikingly similar to movies that are in the theaters, and released directly to DVDAug 23 02:12
DaemonFCthe MPAA is NOT happy about this and trying to shut them all downAug 23 02:13
DaemonFCwell, I'm not sure that they should have any legal remedy over someone using a copyrighted work that is not making a profit off of itAug 23 02:14
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: its not as if District B13 was based on any prior artAug 23 02:14
DaemonFCthose cases tend to be someone who has made exactly one copy of something for themselves, or maybe one for a friendAug 23 02:14
DaemonFCif someone came along and started selling copies of a copyrighted movie on DVD-Rs or something, yeah, they should be prosecuted for thatAug 23 02:15
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: next thing you know people will be sued for singing happy birthday Aug 23 02:15
DaemonFCbut if someone just has a personal collection, I don't see anything wrong with thatAug 23 02:15
DaemonFCif they're that interested in movies, they are probably going to buy a better copy of some of them when they come out on one of those blu ray discs in 1080p or even 3dAug 23 02:16
DaemonFCor they're going to the movie theater a lotAug 23 02:16
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: the Samsung v Apple case is arriving to a verdict soon.Aug 23 02:16
DaemonFCthey're not freeloaders because the bootlegging increases their interest in that stuff and they go use their money to support it in other waysAug 23 02:16
DaemonFCI think that if you can't compete with free, you just can't competeAug 23 02:17
DaemonFCthey should focus on maximizing their haul at the theater and convincing people that the blu ray copy of a movie is superior to what you get on The Pirate BayAug 23 02:18
DaemonFCyou could do that by making a better product and charging a fair price for itAug 23 02:18
DaemonFCalmost nobody bothers to pirate movies that are on blu ray for under $10Aug 23 02:18
DaemonFChave you noticed this?Aug 23 02:18
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: its like this? http://bit.ly/PHft2YAug 23 02:18
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DaemonFCwell, we've got a system where no matter how much money they manage to claw out of your wallet, you're still criminal scum because you didn't pay them moreAug 23 02:20
DaemonFC:)Aug 23 02:20
DaemonFC"We need a little bit more. You've got a little bit more, don't you?"Aug 23 02:21
DaemonFCYeah, but I don't feel like giving it to you!Aug 23 02:21
DaemonFCyou know, the fucking bastards that sold you the same movie on Beta, VHS, Laserdisc, perhaps even videodisc or UVD, and then DVDAug 23 02:22
DaemonFCnow they're bitching because, in a recessionary environment, nobody wants to rebuy their movie collection again on blu ray for only $10 more per movie than it was on DVDAug 23 02:22
DaemonFCand the RIAA is the same storyAug 23 02:22
DaemonFChow many times do I need to buy the same music?Aug 23 02:23
DaemonFCI already bought a lot of it on cassette tape, then CD (and, OK, I'm fine with that, the CD was superior!)Aug 23 02:23
DaemonFCnow, instead of ripping all my existing CD collection into a compressed format that is convenient for me to access on my hard disk or portable media player which can't even play CDs, I am supposed to go buy thousands of dollars worth of MP3 files somewhereAug 23 02:24
DaemonFCof music that I've already paid for twice in some casesAug 23 02:24
DaemonFCthis is the only way that copyright maximization can take usAug 23 02:24
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: not only that but they hold a stake in CNET which is where most kids or ignorant people downloaded P2P software such as Limewire off of. Then they go and sue people along with lobby gov to make it easier to find these folks guilty just for using that software.Aug 23 02:24
DaemonFCinstead of creating new things, they will sit on their pile of old things and sell them to you again and again and againAug 23 02:25
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: then sue any new artists for likeness or quoting one line like The Verve did with Rolling Stones.Aug 23 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clackemovedtoparlementumnet/@clackemovedtoparlementumnet] RT @vanden @x11r5 Ever get the feeling you are being quoted by a Markov algorithm?Aug 23 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clackemovedtoparlementumnet/@clackemovedtoparlementumnet] RT @x11r5 @vanden you know the feelingAug 23 02:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] RT @jamiexml ... No shockers here. Lessons from the @Twitter rule changes: Single sourcing is always risky. Proprietary ≠ open. #APIs ≠ ...Aug 23 02:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[clackemovedtoparlementumnet/@clackemovedtoparlementumnet] RT @mbjunior @lstench Wow! You vegan? | Meatless Swedish Meatballs Recipe http://www.devegan.com/2012/04/meatless-swedish-meatballs-reci ...Aug 23 02:31
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ZiomatrixSamsung kills new Bada/Tizen dev in favor of Windows 8: http://bit.ly/OQPqTkAug 23 02:31
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DaemonFCthere was a brief resurgence of dial up internet when the economy got really badAug 23 02:32
DaemonFCI'm not sure why anyone would do thatAug 23 02:33
DaemonFCalmost every broadband company has a really cheap basic tier that's still hundreds of times faster than dial up for around the same price as getting a plain old phone line and the dial up ISP subscriptionAug 23 02:33
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: because some dialup is free like NetZero and BlueLight.Aug 23 02:34
DaemonFConly for like 10 hours a monthAug 23 02:34
DaemonFCpfftAug 23 02:34
DaemonFCwhat are you going to do with 10 hours of dial up?Aug 23 02:34
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: check email for bills and employmentAug 23 02:36
DaemonFCAT&T will do dry DSL basic for $15Aug 23 02:36
DaemonFCComcast has something similarAug 23 02:37
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: pay credit card bills and look at bank statements online, loan and aid status ect.Aug 23 02:38
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: Verizon and AT&T are spinning off their already spotty DSL coverage to questionable business.Aug 23 02:38
DaemonFCyeah, AT&T is setting low caps and high overage fees on DSL to get people off of it and onto U-VerseAug 23 02:39
DaemonFCwhere you basically have to subscribe to "premium" TV to get your internetAug 23 02:39
DaemonFCthey're getting desperate to figure out ways to foist things on people who don't want themAug 23 02:39
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: Bundling because theyre afraid of people pulling the plug and going with Vonage for phone. They also want to spread the ETF love to land line.Aug 23 02:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Good morning Identi.ca and Twitter-verse !Tzag ;-)Aug 23 05:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] Certifications for both identi.ca and Twitter just changed (Choqok) #KDE #suspiciousAug 23 05:18
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mariuzhttp://codeflow.org/entries/2012/aug/22/css-shaders-w3c-microsoft-and-broken-standards/Aug 23 05:54
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mariuzLazarus Free Pascal RAD IDE 1.0 RC2 is released http://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,17930.0.htmlAug 23 06:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joindiaspora/@joindiaspora] Stay tuned for an exciting announcement on Monday for the #Diaspora project. Details here: http://ur1.ca/a0ix7 !diasporaAug 23 07:13
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joindiaspora/@joindiaspora] Nice catch! Thanks!Aug 23 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] So, @asta_fish (*fish*!) of Iceland sends us this helpful comic: bit.ly/MNYFaYAug 23 07:25
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ZiomatrixI dont know but even if Disney has a terrible record on pushing absurdly long copyright. I still find this simply as a case of bad writing and a confusion between the words open source and freeware, or they just didn't care.Aug 23 07:42
ZiomatrixAlso as for Google "embracing" the USPTO when it comes to suing Apple. This maybe to force Apple, the golden child of holding onto patents to revise some of their judgement inadvertently, making cases so absurd that the whole legal validity of the situation will implode on itself like every other fiscal bubble. Or Apple will pay royalties. Aug 23 07:45
DaemonFCit does not make sense that a virus could be hidden in open source softwareAug 23 08:01
DaemonFCobscured, perhapsAug 23 08:01
DaemonFCbut it is more likely to be hidden in binary formAug 23 08:01
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: which makes the whole comment so absurd along with disjointed that some must think its a conspiracy. Maybe in some way like a bad boy image this comment which many feel is detrimental to open source would actually peak some children's interest who watched it.Aug 23 08:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Windows 7 Forever! Why Windows 7 is the Next XP http://goo.gl/ZpqMpAug 23 08:08
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ZiomatrixIts like how the movie Hackers peeked peoples interest in Angelina Jolie. It was not her best roll and the character seemed kind of drab. But it created enough interest for her to move on to better roles.Aug 23 08:08
DaemonFCI doubt Disney has any interest in people viewing open source software in a positive wayAug 23 08:10
DaemonFCpeople who do that start wondering why they can't have similar freedoms with other worksAug 23 08:10
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: it doesn't matter, the Striesand effect has begun.Aug 23 08:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Infographic Shows Why You Should Be Worried About The #TPP... And What You Can Do http://goo.gl/JROLjAug 23 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The evil propaganda of Western nations: China only gets many medals because it tortures children. I hear this propaganda a lot.Aug 23 08:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US accuses China of #censorship but goes overseas to illegally seize servers without due process and shoots down sites via ICEAug 23 08:15
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] No, metered-content walls won’t save journalism http://goo.gl/DKVQKAug 23 08:16
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: tbh I doubt Disney as a humongous multinational news and/or entrainment corporation higher ups care let alone would really put themselves on the line to spread propaganda like this. Its not as if there is a mass market such sentiment would appeal to.Aug 23 08:17
ZiomatrixDaemonFC: it seems to me a simple case of bad writing, perhaps based on just keeping kids glued with discombobulated linesAug 23 08:26
ZiomatrixOr has personal opinions. But I don't see it an auspicious attempt to slam FOSS as a whole. More of the same public ignorance of it imo. If the word freeware was used no fuss would likely be raised.Aug 23 08:28
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKMy65dyz4&feature=relatedAug 23 08:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Using offence as weapon http://ur1.ca/a0j8gAug 23 08:35
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ZiomatrixDaemonFC: all the truth behind politicians pandering to dogmatic principles can be summed up by the dialogue between the Priest and Inkeeper along with the Summoner's Tale within Cantebury Tales. http://www.canteburytales.orgAug 23 08:35
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ZiomatrixMisspelled it http://bit.ly/dBdX2rAug 23 08:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻@maymaym I sincerely enjoy knowing #webdev books I co-authored are pirated: http://goo.gl/HMeij Many good reasons. SA http://ur1.ca/a0j13Aug 23 08:51
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schestowitz[08:43] <Ziomatrix> The Prioress Tale too is a good example of intolerance to others with its lustful pursuit to fulfill their own sense of justice  blinds one's claimed binding principlesAug 23 08:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] One in 10 tenants barred from changing energy supplier http://goo.gl/lmuvKAug 23 08:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #FreeIPMI 1.2.1 Released http://ur1.ca/a0j2t #gnuAug 23 08:58
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ZiomatrixIts for the same lucrative reasons you find apartments in the US serviced by only one ISP.Aug 23 08:58
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/96231776Aug 23 08:59
TechrightsBot-tr@tius's status on Thursday, 23-Aug-12 04:18:41 UTC - Identi.ca: RT !FSF critic declares, High-fives in order for Free Software Foundation’s new !DRM-Free label http://shar.es/7qNwl via @networkworld !dbdAug 23 08:59
schestowitzdoes it for attentionAug 23 08:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "A trade group funded by Monsanto wants your kids to believe it." http://ur1.ca/a0jbg (Avoid This Propaganda)Aug 23 09:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] USDOJ strikes without due process, says copyright infringement is a federal crime, shoots down sites http://ur1.ca/a0jbmAug 23 09:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] NDAA is not too shocking given that due process was already abandoned - now same principles applied against US citizensAug 23 09:06
ZiomatrixTo them its as legal as tearing down billboards.Aug 23 09:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Today @EFF is at #CPEurope: learn about threats to online freedom & how to fight back. Free Software stage, 11 AM https://eff.org/r.5ajvAug 23 09:10
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ZiomatrixChecksumultations to you too?Aug 23 09:15
ZiomatrixGood nerd to you too.Aug 23 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US DOJ uses propaganda terms: "“Cracking down on piracy of copyrighted works" http://ur1.ca/a0fbf it's not piracy it's infringementAug 23 09:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If Western media (and US DOJ) called Iraq invasion "state terrorism or "war crime"", wouldn't this use of words bias the population?Aug 23 09:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] US DOJ/FBI do not tell the full story. Often the sites are competition, may contain user-uploaded stuff, sometimes as bait by corpsAug 23 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] How quickly people forget that files uploaded by RIAA/MPAA as bait were used as pretext to shooting down legal sharing. #propagandaAug 23 09:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If it's not approved by large corporations or banks (e.g. competing bartering cards/currencies), then it's made "illegal"Aug 23 09:31
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DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTuPm2SMOd8Aug 23 09:42
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schestowitzsounds like a title of some pr0nAug 23 09:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Firefox 17 Will Boost Add-On Security http://ur1.ca/a0jiz #mozillaAug 23 09:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox 17 Will Boost Add-On Security | PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 73.93 KBAug 23 09:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/koolhead17/status/238556518948147200?uid=26603208&iid=am-18336062913457112811367944&nid=4+251Aug 23 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr@koolhead17: @schestowitz Hope you guys are aware about the Internet censoring happening in India.Aug 23 09:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Twisted pleasures of open source 'sprint' worth my weekend http://ur1.ca/a0jj2 #opensourceAug 23 09:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Twisted pleasures of open source 'sprint' worth my weekend - The Irish Times - Thu, Aug 23, 2012 .::. Size~: 61.04 KBAug 23 09:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Is it fair to say that #censorship in the West is largely corporate and in the east it's more political? In the West, corporations ARE govtAug 23 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reading the propaganda about the latest sites shutdown one might think there's no mouth to the other side; I bet it's complicated.Aug 23 10:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The US crushes dissent in Pakistan by bombing dissenters or bystanders, saying among them there were militants/terroristsAug 23 10:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "child porn" and "terrorism", accoridng to ars technica, were used by Hollywood bosses and politicians; they said they liked the methodAug 23 10:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Poisoning the well http://ur1.ca/a0jkm (A simple plan to ruin your boss: plant child porn on his PC)Aug 23 10:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Sony releases open source DASH sensor framework http://ur1.ca/a0jl0 Sony once supported PalmOS with devicesAug 23 10:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Fabian Scherschel http://ur1.ca/a0jl4Aug 23 10:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sony releases open source DASH sensor framework .::. Size~: 43.92 KBAug 23 10:08
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Finnish retailer Reveals #ZTE Blade III – Images and Full Specs http://ur1.ca/a0jl8 #android #linuxAug 23 10:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "FBI agents downloaded thousands of copies of popular copyrighted mobile device apps" http://ur1.ca/a0jm3 #mageupload all over againAug 23 10:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android App Websites Seized in the U.S. for Alleged Copyright Violations | PCWorld .::. Size~: 74.33 KBAug 23 10:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Shutting down #mageupload (w/o due process) is akin to shutting down a club because a few goers were on drugs (or suspected) while there.Aug 23 10:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft accuses countries that use FOSS of harbouring "piracy"; MAFIAA accuses sites that distribute via unofficial channels "piracy";Aug 23 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Ubuntu - All other versions of #LINUX aspire to be this successful http://ur1.ca/a0jmxAug 23 10:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Everyday Linux User: Ubuntu - All other versions of LINUX aspire to be this successful .::. Size~: 99.01 KBAug 23 10:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Drugs are legal, as long as you get them in bottled form or in a packet from a known brand like Foster or MarlboroAug 23 10:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Private mail servers, ones other than the big brands' - Yahoo, GMail etc.- have very high probability of being flagged as "spam".Aug 23 10:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Join the "cloud", resistance is futile, give all your data to companies that are complicit w/ PATRIOT Act. No? You must be terrorist.Aug 23 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "I don’t have importan t conversations in the United States anymore. I don’t have conversations in bed..." http://ur1.ca/a0jnrAug 23 10:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For Private E-mail communication, use PGP or set up the other person's account on same server, use localhost, get good (respectful) ISPAug 23 10:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Encrypted communication goes a long way back e.g. German ENIGMA. 70 years later and #privacy is "for terrorists"/army only. Cipher=death?Aug 23 10:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] infringement of privacy - or complete lack thereof - is a tool of control. But whose/ Not the people's, that's for sure.Aug 23 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Mobile patent wars: Google goes on the attack http://ur1.ca/a0jow [LWN]Aug 23 10:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Subscription required [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 4.82 KBAug 23 10:40
schestowitz[10:36] [Notice] -TRIdentica to #techrights- [schestowitz/@schestowitz] Not everyone who wants #privacy tries to build a bomb. People sometimes want to keep their love life private, esp. with Murdoch's snoopingAug 23 10:40
schestowitzF*ing PSUAug 23 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Android on a netbook http://ur1.ca/a0jq0 #linuxAug 23 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Why I Left Facebook After 7 Years, But Was Forced Back In http://goo.gl/eG2PhAug 23 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Kernel Log – Coming in 3.6 (Part 1): Filesystems and storage #kernel #linuxAug 23 10:48
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why I Left Facebook After 7 Years, But Was Forced Back In - TechSpot Reviews .::. Size~: 53.83 KBAug 23 10:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #GNOME Shell 3.6 Beta Has Been Released http://ur1.ca/a0jqg #gnu #linuxAug 23 10:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GNOME Shell 3.6 Beta Has Been Released - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.45 KBAug 23 10:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[karsten/@karsten] Can't reproduce in lp's v0.8.0dev. Issue persists in F17's standard v0.7.1Aug 23 10:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Anti-Piracy Law Firm Will Publicly Humiliate The Clergy, Police & Arabs http://goo.gl/mSBrWAug 23 10:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Anti-Piracy Law Firm Will Publicly Humiliate The Clergy, Police & Arabs | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 30.82 KBAug 23 10:55
DaemonFCschestowitz: Problems?Aug 23 11:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Outsourcing to the West? http://ur1.ca/a0jtmAug 23 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Samsung to invest $4 billion in Austin plant to ramp up production of mobile chips .::. Size~: 200.93 KBAug 23 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Patent War. Next battle. http://50.28.91.52/~patriots/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=293&Itemid=29 #disgu... http://b1t.it/bXQpAug 23 11:18
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DaemonFC"I'm sure someone in the Donner Party said it would stop snowing any minute now..... I like to think they ate him first."Aug 23 11:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Despre 23 August și despre Regele Mihai http://ur1.ca/a0jvt #romania #king #rege #monarchy #history #communism #royalAug 23 11:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Francesa adormeceu no avião e regressou ao aeroporto de partida http://goo.gl/nMaAv e ainda chateieam 1 gajo p causa garrafa água!Aug 23 11:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Noticias ao Minuto - Eduardo dos Santos pede ao povo para "continuar a acreditar no MPLA" http://goo.gl/zuthd que descaramento ó CRIMINOSO!Aug 23 11:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Noticias ao Minuto - Francesa adormeceu no avião e regressou ao aeroporto de partida .::. Size~: 30.58 KBAug 23 11:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Regele Mihai: 23 August, cea mai importantă zi din istoria modernă a României http://ur1.ca/a0jz6 #romania #rege #royal #king #historyAug 23 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Dear governments. You want a growing economy. You want jobs in the knowledge economy. It is your task to make that pos... http://b1t.it/bXRaAug 23 11:53
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iophkATT caught over-selling bandwidthAug 23 12:00
iophkhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/gov039t-legislationregulation/20883/att-blocking-facetime-follow-money-itbwcwAug 23 12:00
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iophkhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57498172-94/at-t-defends-facetime-restrictions-amid-sharp-criticism/Aug 23 12:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] At #cpeurope today? Don't miss Alessandro Rubinis' talk. At 16:30 he writes a !fs operating system live in 2h at the !freesoftware stageAug 23 12:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Main Page Summary at WikiSummaries, free book summaries http://goo.gl/4TQg #booksAug 23 12:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] » Massive #GTD Resource List :zenhabits http://goo.gl/xafoAug 23 12:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @mcnalu: We are Women Against Rape but we do not want Julian Assange extradited | Katrin Axelsson and Lisa Longstaff: http://b1t.it/bXRWAug 23 12:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: We are Women Against Rape but we do not want Julian Assange extradited | Katrin Axelsson and Lisa Longstaff | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 288.91 KBAug 23 12:45
Diablo-D3well thats good and allAug 23 13:01
Diablo-D3since julian has yet to actually rape anyoneAug 23 13:01
MinceRindeedAug 23 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Thank you, Googleplus. Verified profiles now get the extra VIP treatment - a vanity URL. Us plebs that have been waiti... http://b1t.it/bXSnAug 23 13:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Thank you, Googleplus. Verified profiles now get the extra… .::. Size~: 137.69 KBAug 23 13:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] turses - A Twitter client for the console· GitHub http://goo.gl/Qb1ql #cli #lowspecbox #gnulinuxAug 23 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Open source misrepresented on TV again, community speaks out http://goo.gl/nZzWmAug 23 13:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Film and TV writers misrepresent open source and other technology | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.47 KBAug 23 13:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] US government shares citizens' border crossings with insurance companies http://goo.gl/mfVNqAug 23 13:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US government shares citizens' border crossings with insurance companies | The Verge .::. Size~: 87.53 KBAug 23 13:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ubisoft Realizing That Perhaps 'Pirate' Users Are Really Just Like 'Free To Play' Users Who Don't Pay http://goo.gl/ehWjGAug 23 13:35
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubisoft Realizing That Perhaps 'Pirate' Users Are Really Just Like 'Free To Play' Users Who Don't Pay | Techdirt .::. Size~: 57.09 KBAug 23 13:35
abeNd-orgi missed the url for that last article per ubisoftAug 23 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Animation Instructor Fights Unnecessary Textbook Purchases And Gets Fired For His Trouble http://goo.gl/EVkNCAug 23 13:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Animation Instructor Fights Unnecessary Textbook Purchases And Gets Fired For His Trouble | Techdirt .::. Size~: 53.8 KBAug 23 13:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] +Stefan Keuchel vor einem Jahr hatten wir eine kurze Diskussion zum Thema Account Verification. Es hiess damals der P... http://b1t.it/bXTfAug 23 13:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[fsfe/@fsfe] 76 Organizations; 57 Businesses; 2383 Individuals have signed the #pdfreaders petition! http://ur1.ca/8btja !gnu !freesoftwareAug 23 13:51
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iophkabeNd-org:  http://www.techdirt.com/blog/casestudies/articles/20120822/12001520125/ubisoft-realizing-that-perhaps-pirate-users-are-really-just-like-free-to-Aug 23 13:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Ubisoft Realizing That Perhaps 'Pirate' Users Are Really Just Like 'Free To Play' Users Who Don't Pay | Techdirt .::. Size~: 69.3 KBAug 23 13:59
abeNd-orgthanks, i did hit up techdirt & found it there as well (gasp, i know right?)Aug 23 14:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] On the slowest bus ever.Aug 23 14:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Four drafts updated by the CSS Working Group http://dlvr.it/22jrM9Aug 23 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Four drafts updated by the CSS Working Group http://dlvr.it/22jvn4Aug 23 14:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Four drafts updated by the CSS Working Group http://dlvr.it/22k0c5Aug 23 14:30
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iophkhttps://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-rape-room-wife-179/Aug 23 14:32
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iophkhttps://rt.com/usa/news/tsa-shirt-arijit-delta-308/Aug 23 14:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Depressing.  http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/08/22/the-lost-decade-of-the-middle-class/1/ http://www.pewsocialtre... http://b1t.it/bXUqAug 23 14:48
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Labour MP John Mann fears car trouble was sabotage http://goo.gl/qzOeYAug 23 14:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] Finally made it work. Thanks MBTA.Aug 23 15:01
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Jamendo is helping Spanish band Sundayers crowdsource their third album: check it out: http://ur1.ca/a0kt8 !cc by-nc-sa !SelfPubAug 23 15:18
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iophkhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/aug/23/hewlett-packard-posts-quarterly-lossAug 23 15:20
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iophkThey'll have to get the board, too.Aug 23 15:23
iophkhttp://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/08/open-letter-to-nokia-shareholders.htmlAug 23 15:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Communities Dominate Brands: Open Letter to Nokia Shareholders .::. Size~: 133.14 KBAug 23 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer]  http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i51/5/8/23/frabz-Not-verified-no-vanity-URL--Ill-go-back-to-orkutcom-fc2f3d.jpg http://ct.... http://b1t.it/bXVeAug 23 15:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Booted From Airplane For Wearing Anti-TSA T-shirt http://goo.gl/kytHrAug 23 15:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Booted From Airplane For Wearing Anti-TSA T-shirt - Slashdot .::. Size~: 282.59 KBAug 23 15:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Red Hat http://ur1.ca/a0l1kAug 23 15:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - This page now has it's vanity URL too.… .::. Size~: 147.25 KBAug 23 15:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !listening to #Sundayers "Oh my cat" on !jamendo http://www.ur1.ca/a0l10 !cc by-nc-sa !selfPub #boppingalongAug 23 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] s'okay @jpope it will get better ... if you just hold out for some GNU/linux salvation ;DAug 23 15:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jamendo - Oh My Cat! by Sundayers .::. Size~: 139.24 KBAug 23 15:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] The DVD Is Dying. Hollywood's Plan? Do Nothing And Cede Ground To File Sharing http://goo.gl/GRRo6Aug 23 15:43
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] If @sundayers is crowd sourcing their third !CC album http://ur1.ca/a0l3t they should consider dropping the NC for a freer !copyleft licenseAug 23 15:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Free Culture ~ culture is for sharing / The versatile Spanish band Los Sundayers is crowd sourcing their third CC album (cc by-nc-sa) via Jamendo ... I'm inclined to think if its crowd funded they should think about dropping the NC .::. Size~: 50.85 KBAug 23 15:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Dietrich Schmitz http://ur1.ca/a0l5aAug 23 15:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - (Thu21) Everyone kneel and behold the logo.  Wow begins… .::. Size~: 170.36 KBAug 23 15:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Twitter, Inc. (@TwitterEng) joined W3C http://dlvr.it/22l7wTAug 23 16:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Sony opens up the Dynamic Android Sensor HAL (DASH) http://ur1.ca/a0l9bAug 23 16:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Twitter, Inc. joined W3C http://dlvr.it/22lLzfAug 23 16:16
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schestowitziophk: thanks for the linksAug 23 16:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @w3c Twitter, Inc. joined W3C http://dlvr.it/22lLzf << now they need to fix their site to work with many browsersAug 23 16:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Versus CSS http://ur1.ca/a0lay #css #microsoftAug 23 16:26
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Versus CSS | Techrights .::. Size~: 85.21 KBAug 23 16:26
schestowitzlast night someone emailed me this: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/08/when-2-plus-2-equals-less-than-2-thats-right-not-less-than-4-i-meant-less-than-2-the-microsoft-point.htmlAug 23 16:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Communities Dominate Brands: When 2 plus 2 equals less than 2. Thats right, not less than 4, I meant less than 2. The Microsoft Point of View to the Nokia dead-end .::. Size~: 141.64 KBAug 23 16:27
schestowitzwhich I in turn added to a post draftAug 23 16:27
schestowitzI might have time now to do 4 more postsAug 23 16:27
iophkIt's good that the market share is going down.  It leaves room for Android, iOS and eventually Jolla's MeegoAug 23 16:27
schestowitzand GramAug 23 16:28
schestowitzmy keyboard is dyingAug 23 16:28
iophkNokia has a lot to clean up.  It is not just Elop but also the board that brought him in and the moles that he himself brought inAug 23 16:28
schestowitzfor the Palm TungstenAug 23 16:28
iophkProbably easier to just let nokia fold.Aug 23 16:28
schestowitzI hope Gram makes it easy to migrate PalmOS date to WebOSAug 23 16:29
iophkCan your Palm use Bluetooth?Aug 23 16:29
schestowitzAs I might buy their device if they offer this selling pointAug 23 16:29
schestowitzall the PDBs are lockin me in for over a decade nowAug 23 16:29
schestowitzyesAug 23 16:29
schestowitzIt has bluetooth, but I never use itAug 23 16:29
schestowitzand can't get Palm keyboards anymoreAug 23 16:29
schestowitzthree keys have poor connectvityAug 23 16:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: Do you have revealed that @x11r5 had a #texascard rather than sell shoes which support her healthier stride. #GrrrAug 23 16:30
schestowitzI sometimes have to hit the kys with anger for 20 minutes at the gym before they work at all, and it gets worse by the dayAug 23 16:30
schestowitzit's an old keyboard, I got it in 2003Aug 23 16:30
iophkWho's backing WebOS now?Aug 23 16:30
iophkhttp://openwebosproject.org/Aug 23 16:30
schestowitzsome radio guy called Roy Land mailed it to me, it uses Universal Bus, which is now deprecatedAug 23 16:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Open webOS :: Home .::. Size~: 8.8 KBAug 23 16:30
schestowitzTablets are no good for typingAug 23 16:31
schestowitzI tried, it's like 4 times slower with onscreen keyboardsAug 23 16:31
schestowitzI tried to install other virtual keyboards, but they too suckAug 23 16:31
iophkOnscreen has no tactile feedback of any kindAug 23 16:31
schestowitzAlso navigation is horrible on android for typingAug 23 16:32
iophkKind of makes touch typing impossible.  Aug 23 16:32
schestowitzor any tabletAug 23 16:32
schestowitzand copy and paste is lameAug 23 16:32
schestowitzwe moved backwards, all that stuff is labeled "complicated" and dropedAug 23 16:32
schestowitziGenerationAug 23 16:32
schestowitz*droppedAug 23 16:32
schestowitzRight, no tactile means errors, and going backwards to mend mistakes takes far longer than typingAug 23 16:33
schestowitzauto-cprrection is even worseAug 23 16:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] great © video ♻ @SheviStories I am definitely too school for cool and wrong in all the ways. All my underdogs, you rock! http://ur1.ca/3f0emAug 23 16:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: P!nk - Raise Your Glass- YouTube .::. Size~: 157.86 KBAug 23 16:33
schestowitzit can distorts the message in very horrible waysAug 23 16:33
schestowitzand fixing something that's not correctly "corrected" takes even longer than making a slight editAug 23 16:33
iophkI greatly dislike autocorrect.Aug 23 16:34
iophkIt's even worse in bilingual situations.Aug 23 16:34
schestowitzworse - it flags correct stuff as incorrectAug 23 16:34
schestowitzsometimesAug 23 16:34
schestowitzI mean, words that are spelled correctlyAug 23 16:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RT @mlinksva http://ur1.ca/9r1xm great !fsw news that !sn addressing a major federati ...Aug 23 16:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Distributing the user interface for social networks from Evan Prodromou on 2012-07-09 (public-fedsocweb@w3.org from July 2012) .::. Size~: 16.2 KBAug 23 16:35
schestowitzwhich proves distractilng, false positivesAug 23 16:35
schestowitzI don't like grammar checkers for this reasonsAug 23 16:35
schestowitzThey don't deal with poetic languageAug 23 16:35
schestowitzand they insist you do sometimes wrong when you don'tAug 23 16:35
iophkWhy not get a small netbook instead of a tablet?  Some models are not that much bigger or heavier and they come with a usable keyboard — at least some do.Aug 23 16:35
schestowitzno android netbooksAug 23 16:36
schestowitzvery few perhapsAug 23 16:36
schestowitzit's saddled with vista* crapAug 23 16:36
iophkYou should be able to get a Vista refund and to load Android manually.Aug 23 16:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ironic P!nk's song/vision expressed in "Raise Your Glass" is locked behind !copyright that seeks to crush "wrong in the right way" fansAug 23 16:38
schestowitzThey made the process cumbersomeAug 23 16:38
schestowitzTim OpenBytes triedAug 23 16:38
MinceRthere are a few tablets with keyboards that they can dock toAug 23 16:38
schestowitzthat would be niceAug 23 16:39
schestowitzfull sixzed keyboard esp.Aug 23 16:39
MinceRthey're not full-sizedAug 23 16:39
MinceRthen again, neither are most netbooks, afaict :>Aug 23 16:39
schestowitza coleague of mine has some ASUS tablet with folding keyboardAug 23 16:39
schestowitzbut it's smallAug 23 16:39
schestowitzI want one that uses miniUSB to act as external kbAug 23 16:40
MinceRsome tablets have usb host functionalityAug 23 16:40
MinceRyou can plug a full-sized usb keyboard into those :>Aug 23 16:40
iophkI though I heard that Dell was selling linux again, it has some netbooks.  But a quick visit to their site shows only Vista7 in the customization options.Aug 23 16:42
MinceRthey used to hide them on a subsiteAug 23 16:44
MinceRa subsite that is not linked from the main oneAug 23 16:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @marjoleink A Reminder From bANDiSTA: No Border-No Nation-No Exile download! copy! distribute! http://0.nul.lt/OV0Ntg RD! RT!Aug 23 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Private crypto key in mission-critical hardware menaces electric grids | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/f7Pdy #scada #securityAug 23 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: bANDiSTA | Sınırsız-Ulussuz-Sürgünsüz .::. Size~: 20.96 KBAug 23 16:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Private crypto key in mission-critical hardware menaces electric grids | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 36.6 KBAug 23 16:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Lawyers Versus the Rest of Us http://ur1.ca/a0lei #swpats #monopolyAug 23 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Me and the Other Half have prepared our wedding invitation3 in the #GNU GIMP, using free fonts and our own graphics.Aug 23 16:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Patent Lawyers Versus the Rest of Us | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.98 KBAug 23 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Preparing an article on #Vista8 http://ur1.ca/4yz5h while working on FTC submission about Microsoft lobbyingAug 23 16:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vista 8 Reality Log - Techrights .::. Size~: 25.99 KBAug 23 16:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Password hints easily extracted from Windows 7, 8 | Ars Technica http://goo.gl/5ASV5 #security #msvista8 - #toyosAug 23 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Vista 8 Will Fail for Businesses, Says Dell http://ur1.ca/a0lg5 #vista8 #windows #dellAug 23 16:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Password hints easily extracted from Windows 7, 8 | Ars Technica .::. Size~: 36.45 KBAug 23 16:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vista 8 Will Fail for Businesses, Says Dell | Techrights .::. Size~: 86.2 KBAug 23 16:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Me and the Other Half have prepared our wedding invitation3 in the #GNU GIMP, using free fonts and our own graphics.Aug 23 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] !Listening to DL of @bandista "No Border-No Nation-No Exile" !copyleft download http://ur1.ca/a0led [note: seeking license language :-]Aug 23 17:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Has Influence in Linux and FOSS http://ur1.ca/a0lhs #mono #openlogic #suseAug 23 17:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] For me RD is for things I think are valuable to see, hear, learn, so I share. Words like "popular" are problematic when link is re: tortureAug 23 17:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] When a Facebook friend shares the death of a relative, I simply can not click on "like"Aug 23 17:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] We *have* both faves and repeats, and we all use them we think appropriate. Adding subcategories would just be clutter, not added value IMHOAug 23 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk you time tripper, you ;)Aug 23 17:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @Sherman_Alexi Conspiracy theory: the childlike belief that humans can keep secrets. / via @flyingsquirrelAug 23 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk I hear you; I could use a little less interesting in my life too :oAug 23 17:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] More Funding Appears to Come From Anti-Android/Linux Camp. http://ur1.ca/a0lko #lobbying #apple #android #fud #microsoftAug 23 17:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] KNODD Caixote c/tampa - galvanizado, 40 l - IKEA http://goo.gl/JWKsA #preppers #cmeAug 23 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] This: http://tinyurl.com/cfln5k9 is very scary. So collecting domestic data isn't a violation of the Constitution, only reading it is..Aug 23 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jra/@jra] A small thing you can do to help protect yourself: http://ur1.ca/08g2g And use Free Software everywhere of course.Aug 23 17:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxfoundation/@linuxfoundation] Can't make #cloudopen #linuxcon in person? See the keynotes live via these streams. Sign up now! http://bit.ly/PeTCOc http://bit.ly/Q4bXBJAug 23 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Apple v. Samsung is not the problem — but it’s a symptom of a broken #patent system. https://eff.org/r.1aj3 #patentfailAug 23 17:46
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple and Samsung Should Fight in the Marketplace, not the Courtroom | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 37.51 KBAug 23 17:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Simon Dale: How I built my #hobbit house in Wales for just £3,000 | Mail Online http://goo.gl/b27TS #preppers #natureAug 23 17:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Estados Unidos hace un llamamiento por «la tormenta solar del siglo» - ABC.es http://goo.gl/vk1is #preppers #cmeAug 23 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Water for #survival | SHTF School http://goo.gl/vG3X0 #selco #preppersAug 23 18:00
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1886087Aug 23 18:12
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Chakra #Linux Drops Support For #i686 Architecture  http://www.muktware.com/4198/chakra-linux-drops-support-i686-architectureAug 23 18:12
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schestowitz"What do you mean Jan?"Aug 23 18:12
schestowitz"I meant that by dropping such an important architecture as 32 bit x86, their distributions is useful in less places. But hey, obviously they know that, and have thought it through. There are obviously benefits in reducing the workload."Aug 23 18:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1889101Aug 23 18:16
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Ubuntu - All other versions of #LINUX aspire to be this successful  http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2012/08/ubuntu-all-other-versions-of-linux.htmlAug 23 18:16
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schestowitz"It already starts with the wrong premise that Ubuntu was a version of Linux, which doesn't even make sense if you count in the GNU system."Aug 23 18:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1889102Aug 23 18:17
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Drugs are legal, as long as  you get them in bottled form or in a packet from a known brand like Foster or MarlboroAug 23 18:17
schestowitz"Anything is legal, as long as the Government gets its money!"Aug 23 18:17
schestowitz"If drugs were legalized, there'd be layoffs everywhere. Law enforcement, privatized prison guards, the DEA would be gutted. International task forces and international banking forces. Mercenaries, hit-men, and lawyers... It would be chaos, total chaos!"Aug 23 18:18
schestowitzit helps if you think of the government as a supercorporation, like a superorganism striving for profitAug 23 18:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Adam Ostrow http://ur1.ca/a0lsvAug 23 18:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Stopping by on Google+ for the first time in a while as… .::. Size~: 151.42 KBAug 23 18:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] "Software patents are weapons of mass extortion." One start-up entrepreneur explains the problem. https://eff.org/r.a9j4 #patentfailAug 23 18:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] How can we fix a broken #patent system? Start by joining us at http://ur1.ca/9j6jw. #patentfailAug 23 18:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @chicagonpg: GOP establishment tries to disqualify Ron Paul supporters from Republican Convention http://bit.ly/SUyL3sAug 23 18:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1889106Aug 23 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Join the "cloud", resistance is futile, give all your data to companies that are complicit w/ PATRIOT Act. No? You must be terrorist.Aug 23 18:38
schestowitz"I've always been a bit suspicious of all this "future is in the cloud" talk, as well. It's useful, sometimes, but the notion of ALL personal data sitting in corporate storage is not one that lets me sleep soundly."Aug 23 18:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1889070Aug 23 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Poisoning the well http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/08/disgruntled-brit-plants-child-porn-on-bosss-computer-calls-cops/ (A simple plan to ruin your boss: plant child porn on his PC)Aug 23 18:39
schestowitz"Aug 23 18:39
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schestowitzThere was a man in the US who did this sort of thing but was caught because one of his victims had a boss that listened to him. The victim's boss actually hired an investigator when most employers would have fired the victim. Even then, the smear was damaging and would not have been detected if the perpetrator had stopped with the initial wave of malice.Aug 23 18:39
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/07/hacking-neighbor-from-hell/Aug 23 18:39
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schestowitz"Aug 23 18:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Rep. Nadler Proposes The RIAA Bailout Act Of 2012 http://goo.gl/nlUoLAug 23 18:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] there are people on the lists wanting it out and saying it makes the licenses non-Free.Aug 23 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Reshared post from Mona Nomura http://ur1.ca/a0lxwAug 23 18:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I would say by-nc-sa is not copyleft. to me at least, copyleft implies Freedom.Aug 23 18:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] sure because sometimes like really means: look at how terrible this is.Aug 23 19:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] A must-watch NYT op-doc on whistleblower William Binney and how the NSA can still warrantlessly wiretap Americans https://eff.org/r.3aj6Aug 23 19:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] So gene patents will be the next big thing for patent trolls. This is wrong on so many levels that words fail me. htt... http://b1t.it/bXZPAug 23 19:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I see by context though that since others disagree, it is an unsafe assumption when using the works of others.Aug 23 19:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] http://ur1.ca/6q2l5 - thoughts re artists and understanding?Aug 23 19:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: zotz: Will It Come To This .::. Size~: 43.39 KBAug 23 19:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] on the net, simple viewing amounts to receiving data from upstreamAug 23 19:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Want to see @EFF in Austin for #SXSW 2013? Our panels need your votes: https://eff.org/r.3aj5Aug 23 19:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Identi.ca, Twitter and Jabber with BitlBee via Irssi « Blog karp0tt http://goo.gl/oAt53 #cli #lowspecbox #gnulinux - a dream come true? :)Aug 23 19:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Great @globalvoices post highlighting civil society actions against Internet censorship in Jordan https://eff.org/r.a7j7Aug 23 19:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jordan: Say No to Internet Censorship · Global Voices .::. Size~: 172.38 KBAug 23 19:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Ancient Roman #Humour ⇒ http://pinterest.com/pin/171840542002832863/Aug 23 19:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Historica  / BEST PIN EVER:  A latrine from the Baths of Caracalla in Rome, 100-300, shaped like a chariot. .::. Size~: 51.06 KBAug 23 19:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz @marjoleink That is my point: we are far from a single definition of "copyleft" ... creators must specify what they mean re:reuseAug 23 19:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] yes, @zotz but it galls me to have to use a word in such a wrong way. (When I say bad, I mean bad ;DAug 23 19:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolaborg Kolab's web-based administration panel now has new icons: http://bit.ly/O5orp3Aug 23 19:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @kolaborg Also check out our improved homepage! http://kolab.orgAug 23 19:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz @marjoleink I think the only sure thing about copyleft is the preservation of the same rights in remixAug 23 19:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz In the same way if you were to give most people a ticket to a free movie, they will be very annoyed with you when asked for admissionAug 23 19:43
iophkhttp://www.bestlookinglogos.com/2009/07/four-square-logo/Aug 23 19:53
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iophkLook familiar?Aug 23 19:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz the new !copyright law we now have in !canada protects #DRM even if the work it "protects" is not copyright at all #madnessAug 23 20:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] Hey Instagram users, now there's a way to CC license your photos. i-am-cc.orgAug 23 20:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Government blocks Twitter handles of journalists, right-wing groups  http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politi... http://b1t.it/bX1cAug 23 20:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] » BBC Censors Video Showing #Syria.n Rebels Forcing Prisoner to Become Suicide Bomber http://goo.gl/Aew8X #nato #stateterrorism #msmAug 23 20:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Thursday's security updates http://ur1.ca/a0mc8Aug 23 20:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] @evan That's interesting re: dismantling something vs. coming together. I'm into coming together over dismantling oppression & hierarchy.Aug 23 20:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] FlightGear 2.8.0 has a more realistic world - The H Open: News and Features http://goo.gl/qmHYL #gamesAug 23 20:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @dbd For DRM-Free Media, Look for the New FSF Logo: http://soc.li/61gEvjf via @pcworld !DefectiveByDesign !LibrePlanetAug 23 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @dbd !FSF critic declares, "High-fives in order for Free Software Foundation’s new !DRM-Free label" http://shar.es/7qNwl via @network ...Aug 23 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @dbd More great !DefectiveByDesign coverage of the #DRM free label: "Is that music, video or e-book certified DRM-free?" via @rabblecaAug 23 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[dpic/@dpic] RT @wiretapped @jbouie #apple is one of the most successful promoters of the misguided notion that #drm is necessary and/or effective.Aug 23 20:33
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Tycoon: High-fives in order for Free Software Foundation’s new 'DRM-Free' label .::. Size~: 83.71 KBAug 23 20:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Check out EFF's new guide: Keeping Your Site Alive, now available in 8 languages: https://eff.org/r.1ajzAug 23 20:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] India’s Net nannies run amok "A society that’s willing to trade precious liberty for temporary safety, deserves n... http://b1t.it/bX1HAug 23 20:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] RT @eff Check out EFF's new guide: Keeping Your Site Alive, now available in 8 languages: https://eff.org/r.1ajzAug 23 20:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is schestowitz from identi.ca with 63 dents!Aug 23 20:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] The Dictator's Practical Guide to Internet Power Retention, Global Editionhttp://boingboing.net/2012/08/22/the-dictato... http://b1t.it/bX1OAug 23 20:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] McCann: "I am more optimistic about #GNOME than I've been in a long time" - http://ur1.ca/a0mqg excellent interview! Excited about future.Aug 23 21:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @jra This: http://tinyurl.com/cfln5k9 is very scary. So collecting domestic data isn't a violation of the Constitution, only reading ...Aug 23 21:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lamm/@lamm] RT @jra A small thing you can do to help protect yourself: http://ur1.ca/08g2g And use Free Software everywhere of course.Aug 23 21:13
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TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Outsourcing to the West? http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Samsung+invest+billion+Austin+plant+ramp+production/7121195/story.htmlAug 23 21:30
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schestowitz"The US is becoming more competitive with China every day. We've got low wages, reduced rights, great surveillance, lax pollution controls and a legal system that works for big companies."Aug 23 21:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] RT @eff "Software patents are weapons of mass extortion." One start-up entrepreneur explains the problem. https://eff.org/r.a9j4 #patentfailAug 23 22:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] The #TPP is the worst thing since #ACTA and #SOPA. We made an infographic with @LuminConsulting showing you how https://eff.org/r.a9jxAug 23 23:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] no, from early days I remember the phrase "all rights reversed" asassociated with copyleft. judo to reverse the restrictions of copyright.Aug 23 23:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] certainly, if not more.Aug 23 23:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] while i don't by the redef of by-nc-sa as copyleft, that fact that others try means the suggested caution is warranted.Aug 23 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] indeed. perhaps they want to lessen negativity on the site by that little device.Aug 23 23:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] don't buy into other's redefining copyleft any more than letting them redefine Free or "open source". understand that they try and take careAug 23 23:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] if you offered to sell them a ticket to a Free movie you might have a discussion re libre versus gratis though.Aug 23 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] and the #madness increases as the legal copyright ratchet continues.Aug 23 23:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @MarietjeD66 Stop Balkanizing the #Internet http://ur1.ca/a0nb2Aug 23 23:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @MarietjeD66 ♻ @johnkampfner: The fight for control of the #Internet has become critical http://ur1.ca/a0g6hAug 23 23:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz it says "All Wrongs Reversed" on my @NinaPaley T-shirtAug 23 23:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz You've been in this far longer than I, but what I see is most of the public still buys the centuries of propaganda: !copyright is goodAug 23 23:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Don't know if I've seen it expressed that way before.Aug 23 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] if that's really the case it is odd how much infringement there is but go figure.Aug 23 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz !copyleft is radical thought that flies in the face of "accepted truth" (people also think !copyright is a right, not a #monopoly)Aug 23 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I have a feeling the name goes a log way to that end. also we have little understanding of rights versus privileges. we seem to like that.Aug 23 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Is Creative Commons even a decade old? Tho GPL is older, still, this is way WAY out there for people who have not thought it through.Aug 23 23:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Wikipedia http://ur1.ca/a0nd9Aug 23 23:38
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz many people see no distiction between "open source" and "free software" ~ I know it took me a good while to understand thatAug 23 23:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz lack of consensus is an issue, but I think more of the problem is it isn't less re-defining phrases as learning what they mean.Aug 23 23:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I have heard BY-NC-SA included as copyleft; though I have opinion, it's not my decision. Most of the world thinks BY-NC-SA radical.Aug 23 23:46
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz that is what so much of this comes down to; finding ways to engage people who don't think any of this matters :)Aug 23 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Really? how much active infringement is there really? I can promise you most of the people that I know do not infringe !copyright.Aug 23 23:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz The reason I can say that with confidence is that I know that they wouldn't know where to begin.Aug 23 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Of the handful of people I know that *might* infringe copyright, most would more likely do it unwittingly, buying bootleg CDs, DVDsAug 23 23:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz Admittedly younger generations do infringe, but they are still very much in the minority and a big % will be minor children.Aug 23 23:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1886114Aug 23 23:59
schestowitz"I normally have TV streamed in a window on the desktop whwnever I am on the computer,and hate the fact that whenever I switch to "applications" it is now longer visible. I wil stick with KDE"Aug 23 23:59
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: Is #Fedora 17 #GNOME Really a Miracle?  http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/07/is-fedora-17-gnome-really-miracle.html #gnu #linux #redhatAug 23 23:59
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schestowitzsteaming works okay on my tablet, vp8Aug 23 23:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1889102Aug 23 23:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Drugs are legal, as long as  you get them in bottled form or in a packet from a known brand like Foster or MarlboroAug 23 23:59

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