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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97032072 http://identi.ca/notice/97032828Sep 29 00:11
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 28-Sep-12 22:06:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz Less of the Daily Mail stuff it is the principle that is important.Sep 29 00:11
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Friday, 28-Sep-12 23:00:10 UTC - Identi.ca: @Schestowitz For the gold rush read the patent rush.Sep 29 00:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Just finished playing Battle for Wesnoth's excellent "Dead Water" campaign. Have to uninstall quickly before I start another one!Sep 29 00:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] How can #OER support women and girls in STEM? @creativecommons & @ocwnews are forming a task force to find out. https://eff.org/r.a6mMSep 29 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] We can obviously rely on @Laineyg to get us right back to the core of the matter. :)Sep 29 00:25
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Using Free and Open Educational Resources to Support Women and Girls in STEM - Creative Commons .::. Size~: 23.58 KBSep 29 00:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @Stumbles your the bloke who I subscribed to after doing that wonderful presentation. I no longer need wonderful just please dent more oftenSep 29 00:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] Thanks @satipera! Which presentation was it that you liked?Sep 29 00:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bloody hell @stumbles I can't be expected to list every well made video I have seen. Fact of the matter is you are on my subscribe list :)Sep 29 00:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] Nice! Financial service @Stripe commits to transparency about government requests to stop processing payments https://eff.org/r.a6mNSep 29 00:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stripe Blog: Towards Transparency .::. Size~: 7.45 KBSep 29 00:45
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XFaCEschestowitz: hey roy, are you there?Sep 29 00:48
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schestowitzsureSep 29 00:55
schestowitzwhat's up?Sep 29 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] We just added #OneShot to our Kickstarter page. Support a CC game and meet its creator in person! http://kck.st/M5qdt6Sep 29 00:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Creative Commons — Kickstarter .::. Size~: 94.36 KBSep 29 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[stumbles/@stumbles] ACS reprinted an article on a software patents talk I gave. Used a large © symbol for illustration. :/ http://identi.ca/url/73731042 #swpatSep 29 01:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] A problem with the law is when it becomes a bastion against natural justice and not just #SwpatsSep 29 01:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @stumbles ACS reprinted an article on a software patents talk I gave. Used a large © symbol for illustration. :/ http://ur1.ca/8aesb ...Sep 29 01:18
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DaemonFC"Our success story can teach Washington a lot."Sep 29 01:26
DaemonFCemail spam from the Congress CritterSep 29 01:26
DaemonFCyeah, our success in breaking labor, driving down the standard of living, and still having a 15% unemployment rate can teach Washington a thing or two, I'm sure :PSep 29 01:26
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:DaemonFC!~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc PRIVMSG #techrights :yeah, our success in breaking labor, driving down the standard of living, and still having a 15% unemployment rate can teach Washington a thing or two, I'm sure :P
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:DaemonFC!~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc PRIVMSG #techrights :"What do you call one local bureaucrat in the county jail?
:DaemonFC!~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc PRIVMSG #techrights : A good start."
:DaemonFC!~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc PRIVMSG #techrights :on a local political blog :P
:DaemonFC!~ryan@unaffiliated/daemonfc PRIVMSG #techrights :we have some real Triple F rated politicians here
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:TRIdentica!~twitfolk@216.105.40.114 NOTICE #techrights :[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens sleep tight.
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*Now talking on #techrightsSep 29 01:30
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovellSep 29 01:30
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Sep 29 01:30
DaemonFC"What do you call one local bureaucrat in the county jail?Sep 29 01:32
DaemonFC A good start."Sep 29 01:32
DaemonFCon a local political blog :PSep 29 01:32
DaemonFCwe have some real Triple F rated politicians hereSep 29 01:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens sleep tight.Sep 29 01:40
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DaemonFChow is OpenSUSE lately?Sep 29 01:46
DaemonFCdid it actually crater?Sep 29 01:47
DaemonFCI see some positive reviews of 12.2Sep 29 01:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: RT @FTLiveTweets: Watch César Alierta (Telefónica) @NeelieKroesEU (@EU_Commission) speaking live at #FTE http://p.ost.im/p/d6xqAvSep 29 02:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @jezra so my sneaky exercise motivations have been laid bare ;)Sep 29 03:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @x11r5: @mmn folks won't buy a device locked into a stinky black & white kitty on the 21 march and when providers will have to queue likeSep 29 03:53
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Kelvin MacKenzie destroyed his own reputation years before Hillsborough http://goo.gl/tMywiSep 29 04:08
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kelvin MacKenzie destroyed his own reputation years before Hillsborough | Tanya Gold | Comment is free | The Guardian .::. Size~: 271.44 KBSep 29 04:08
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DaemonFChttps://www.apple.com/letter-from-tim-cook-on-maps/Sep 29 04:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple - A letter from Tim Cook on Maps .::. Size~: 6.73 KBSep 29 04:34
DaemonFC"Everything we do at Apple is aimed at making our products the best in the world."Sep 29 04:35
DaemonFCeven if they have to rearrange that world to look like a bad acid tripSep 29 04:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Haaaaappy biiiirthday, !GNU, woooohooooo, party!! \o/Sep 29 04:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] loving the twist in the #DaisyMae track #BugcastSep 29 05:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz search for cc by and you can browse quite easilySep 29 05:05
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DaemonFChttp://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd56/indysux/asscopy.jpgSep 29 05:43
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DaemonFChttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/wednesdayaddams/HOOSIER_FAMILY.jpgSep 29 05:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Vishal Ravishankar http://ur1.ca/afp76Sep 29 06:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - Its everywhere. You just dont know about it #linux   .::. Size~: 155.15 KBSep 29 06:33
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air139I need someone to help me double check something about facebookSep 29 07:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #EA Makes Minor Tweaks To FIFA 12 For the Wii, Releases It As FIFA 13 http://goo.gl/gNZjw this is what EA have ALWAYS done with the sportsSep 29 07:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EA Makes Minor Tweaks To FIFA 12 For the Wii, Releases It As FIFA 13 - Slashdot .::. Size~: 170.51 KBSep 29 07:17
air139I'm finding pre2010 messages as other users timelinesSep 29 07:18
air139*as posts to Sep 29 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #GoDaddy Receives Patent On 'Announcing A Domain Name Registration On A Social Website' http://goo.gl/FutI5 wtf?Sep 29 07:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: GoDaddy Receives Patent On 'Announcing A Domain Name Registration On A Social Website' | Techdirt .::. Size~: 84.54 KBSep 29 07:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] http://goo.gl/fgIRI rofl #HarryPotter #TextFromDogSep 29 07:22
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air139nevermindSep 29 07:23
air139other people have found thisSep 29 07:23
air139no news outlet is picking it up though, they are all reporting that people magicly started talking differently at the same time in 2009Sep 29 07:24
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MinceR053505 < DaemonFC> "Everything we do at Apple is aimed at making our products the best in the world."Sep 29 08:09
MinceRby making all other products illegal, of course.Sep 29 08:10
iophkStill can't believe Tim recommended bing maps, he obviously has not seen how bad they are.Sep 29 08:20
mariuzIs iPhone 5 the most defective phone ever? https://plus.google.com/105567297772267099132/posts/gWGE2R7PfCUSep 29 08:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adrian Marius Popa - Google+ - Is iPhone 5 the most defective phone ever? - Maps -… .::. Size~: 136.97 KBSep 29 08:21
MinceRtim crook? well, he'd recommend crApple products so he obviously doesn't care how bad the things he recommends areSep 29 08:22
oiaohmMinceR: question how much money.Sep 29 08:23
oiaohmHe never seams to review stuff.Sep 29 08:23
MinceRok, let's go with "forces on people" in place of "recommends".Sep 29 08:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @somoht kunnen we die op GTFS exchange plaatsen?Sep 29 08:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @iRail: Thanks to our Dutch friends of @openov we can now download #opendata for the train schedules http://ur1. ...Sep 29 08:55
amarsh04back in a few, restartingSep 29 09:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Firefox's birthday present to us: Teaching tech titans about DIY upstarts http://ur1.ca/afnr1 #firefoxSep 29 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GeeXboX 3.0, Distros Screenshots http://ur1.ca/afpnt #techrightsSep 29 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Firefox's birthday present to us: Teaching tech titans about DIY upstarts • The Register .::. Size~: 29.44 KBSep 29 09:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Links 28/9/2012: GeeXboX 3.0, Distros Screenshots | Techrights .::. Size~: 146.36 KBSep 29 09:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] First Look: #GNOME 3.6 http://ur1.ca/afpny #gnu #linuxSep 29 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @BerendWouters @woutervddn Misschien kan je het ook gewoon ergens op github plaatsen voor andere mensen?Sep 29 09:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @berendwouters @woutervddn Hey Berend en Wouter, iets met #lift22 doen voor de 3d of October mini-hack? http://t.co ...Sep 29 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: First Look: GNOME 3.6 - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 58.55 KBSep 29 09:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: t.co / Twitter .::. Size~: 3 KBSep 29 09:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Reiser4 File-System Comes To #Linux 3.5 Kernel http://ur1.ca/afpo2 #reiserfs #kernelSep 29 09:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Reiser4 File-System Comes To Linux 3.5 Kernel .::. Size~: 17.42 KBSep 29 09:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to #Linux http://ur1.ca/afpon "1. Linux is not windows"Sep 29 09:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to Linux .::. Size~: 52.31 KBSep 29 09:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Event TV: One-on-One with Open Source Visionaries http://ur1.ca/afppm #linuxSep 29 09:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Event TV: One-on-One with Open Source Visionaries | The Linux Foundation .::. Size~: 37.37 KBSep 29 09:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] indeedSep 29 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Guerillas on London Transport - http://bit.ly/NVHAwA many of these are utterly brilliant (v @Thayer @Rchards) #tubeSep 29 09:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 120928 - http://bit.ly/V9dIOs yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDD Sep 29 09:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] US Copyright Office Seeking Comments On Resale Royalties For Visual Artists - http://bit.ly/SLcg5K 'cos world needs more monopoliesSep 29 09:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: US Copyright Office Seeking Comments On Resale Royalties For Visual Artists | Techdirt .::. Size~: 73.62 KBSep 29 09:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bürgerdialog – Was fällt dem Netz für die Politik ein? - http://bit.ly/TQsHPz last chance to give your thoughts hereSep 29 10:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bürgerdialog – Was fällt dem Netz für die Politik ein? .::. Size~: 37.87 KBSep 29 10:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Joint statement from Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia UK - http://bit.ly/UWHrvz getting to grips with things #wikipediaSep 29 10:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Joint statement from Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia UK — Wikimedia blog .::. Size~: 17.23 KBSep 29 10:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Why Everyone Should Care About #DRM's Punishment Of The Visually Impaired - http://bit.ly/OtUXpb this time, it's personal #copyrightSep 29 10:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Everyone Should Care About DRM's Punishment Of The Visually Impaired | Techdirt .::. Size~: 83.99 KBSep 29 10:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Crowdsourcing #Climate Science - http://onforb.es/VYe61V "analyze past hurricane photos (over 300,000) in a series of controlled questions"Sep 29 10:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Crowdsourcing Climate Science - Forbes .::. Size~: 55.15 KBSep 29 10:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Court: Motorola can't enforce injunction against Microsoft - http://ur1.ca/afptk I look forward to german courts blocking US injunctions...Sep 29 10:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Court: Motorola can't enforce injunction against Microsoft | Microsoft - CNET News .::. Size~: 127.48 KBSep 29 10:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] Stadt Land Code : An incubator for civic tools in Germany http://t.co/HXCL2zXUSep 29 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Do Bad Things Happen When Works Enter The Public Domain? The Data Says... No - http://bit.ly/QBxOj3 yay for #PDSep 29 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stadt Land Code : An incubator for civic tools in Germany | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 59.53 KBSep 29 10:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Do Bad Things Happen When Works Enter The Public Domain? The Data Says... No | Techdirt .::. Size~: 73.23 KBSep 29 10:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Government support of #opensource falls short - http://bit.ly/VYeSfh deal with those #swpats, pleaseSep 29 10:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bündnis gegen Kinderpornografie im Internet: MOGiS erklärt Austritt aus White IT - http://bit.ly/SqKOsD now *this* is interestingSep 29 10:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Government support of open source falls short | Open Source Software - InfoWorld .::. Size~: 99.05 KBSep 29 10:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Are These The Drones We're Looking For? - http://bit.ly/Ssz0BI the coming #opensource #drone revolutionSep 29 10:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Are These The Drones We're Looking For? (Part II) - synthesis .::. Size~: 32.2 KBSep 29 10:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] One month to Droidcon London - http://bit.ly/PMq5Ns a possible date for your diary #androidSep 29 10:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: One month to Droidcon London - The H Open: News and Features .::. Size~: 50.03 KBSep 29 10:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hobbyists Embrace #OpenSource Concept For #Drones - http://rww.to/PyRdi5 everybody's doing itSep 29 10:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hobbyists Embrace Open-Source Concept For Drones .::. Size~: 35.07 KBSep 29 10:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Official complaint made re. inaccuracies in #Transparency Register - http://bit.ly/UWKsfo needs sortingSep 29 10:20
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Official complaint made re. inaccuracies in Transparency Register  | Corporate Europe Observatory .::. Size~: 80.27 KBSep 29 10:20
MinceRgeekingsSep 29 10:22
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1988517Sep 29 10:23
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to #Linux http://freshtutorial.com/migrating-windows-linux/ "1. Linux is not windows"Sep 29 10:23
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to Linux .::. Size~: 52.31 KBSep 29 10:23
schestowitz"I'm always amazed when people talk about "alternatives' to Windows and windows-based products. No wonder some people say that "UNIX is for people who loves Unix, Linux is for people who hates Windows" [but try to find an "alternative" for it]. Personaly I just love UNIX arch, as well as GNU/Linux arch and I'd rather have difficulties in finding good alternatives for UNIX and *nix applications on Windows platform ..."Sep 29 10:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1986822Sep 29 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Happy 14th Birthday Google! (and don't forget to thank Linux) http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/happy-14th-birthday-google-and-dont-forget-to-thank-linux.html #linuxSep 29 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Happy 14th Birthday Google! (and don't forget to thank Linux) - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 36.78 KBSep 29 10:24
schestowitz"Thank GNU, Linux."Sep 29 10:24
MinceR:)Sep 29 10:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] " #Slackware 14.0 is has been released...enjoy the many improvements." http://ur1.ca/afpwcSep 29 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Nokia Looks Cheap As Asha Handsets Help Retain Emerging Markets Foothold - http://onforb.es/UWMnR2 battling against #android here, tooSep 29 10:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slackware 14.0 is Finally Here .::. Size~: 37.08 KBSep 29 10:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nokia Looks Cheap As Asha Handsets Help Retain Emerging Markets Foothold - Forbes .::. Size~: 85.66 KBSep 29 10:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Geheimes Gutachten zu Open Source auch in Freiburg - http://bit.ly/SqM7I4 something to hide, perchance? #opensource #transparencySep 29 10:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Geheimes Gutachten zu Open Source auch in Freiburg .::. Size~: 54.87 KBSep 29 10:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] ISPs and Tracking Company Ready to Start Six-Strikes Anti-Piracy Scheme - http://bit.ly/QneYct VPN cos. chortle with gleeSep 29 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Flipside Of BitTorrent - Why Many Musicians Still Hate It - http://rww.to/UWNlwS worth readingSep 29 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 'Move to open source not feasible without political support' http://ur1.ca/afkez getting elected not feasible without corporate fundingSep 29 10:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ISPs and Tracking Company Ready to Start Six-Strikes Anti-Piracy Scheme | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 29.98 KBSep 29 10:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Flipside Of BitTorrent - Why Many Musicians Still Hate It .::. Size~: 37.54 KBSep 29 10:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Move to open source not feasible without political support' | Joinup .::. Size~: 27.28 KBSep 29 10:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] LimuxWatch Gives Up. #Munich and #GNU #Linux Win http://ur1.ca/afpx6Sep 29 10:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: LimuxWatch Gives Up. Munich and GNU/Linux Win at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 48.03 KBSep 29 10:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Business hires of former government employees as #lobbyists - http://bit.ly/NTGX6L truly appalling figuresSep 29 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "This project aimed to encourage the distribution of #Ubuntu #Linux instead of FreeDOS" http://ur1.ca/afpxcSep 29 10:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Business hires of former government employees as lobbyists | Knowledge Ecology International .::. Size~: 24.32 KBSep 29 10:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOMCA's project to encourage PC vendors to distribute a usable free operating system | A2Knetwork.org .::. Size~: 40.69 KBSep 29 10:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hi tech shock absorber legs for multicopeters - http://bit.ly/R1Qo1D lovely #maker moment #dronesSep 29 10:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hi tech shock absorber legs for multicopeters. - DIY Drones .::. Size~: 56.2 KBSep 29 10:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] The Green and Pirate parties voted for #frand - basically helping #swpats in #europe and voting against what they publicly stand for. Shame.Sep 29 10:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @lemagus: Les amis de @iRail profitent de la grève de la #SNCB ce 3 octobre pour sortir un dataset http://ur1.c ...Sep 29 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @ksavje: Grappig hoe de satire van @Rechtzetting http://t.co/x5AqJOzz achterhaald wordt door de real http://ur1. ...Sep 29 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: I really hope the #NMBS #SNCB sends @iRail a cease and decist for publishing the train schedules for th http://ur1. ...Sep 29 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @semanticfire @BertBrugghemans Op 1 dec organiseren we eerste Apps For Antwerp. Ik bespreek binnenkort http://ur1. ...Sep 29 10:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @jamieandrews It won't get any better. Ghent is the coolest place in Belgium ;) How long are you stayin http://ur1. ...Sep 29 10:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: De Rechtzetting    » Spoorbond noemt reizigers wereldvreemd .::. Size~: 40.54 KBSep 29 10:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] $99 #Parallella supercomputer appears on Kickstarter http://ur1.ca/afpyd only #linuxSep 29 10:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: $99 Parallella supercomputer appears on Kickstarter – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com .::. Size~: 81.42 KBSep 29 10:49
oiaohmI wonder if they will get sued by tileSep 29 10:49
oiaohmDesign looks very much the same.Sep 29 10:49
schestowitzhttp://rdwolff.com/content/spain-greece-what-collapse-looksSep 29 10:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Spain & Greece - Is This What Collapse Looks Like? | Professor Richard D. Wolff .::. Size~: 22.18 KBSep 29 10:52
mariuzhttp://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/246-Exit-CIA.vc,-enter-irker.html Cia.vc is dead , replace it with KGB or irker or FBISep 29 10:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Exit CIA.vc, enter irker • Shadowmaster’s Blog .::. Size~: 35.06 KBSep 29 10:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] plans to install #Crunchbang on the laptop today scuppered, turns out the laptop is suceptable to the "detect disk" bug, new iso to d/lSep 29 11:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] the bright side is that it's already fixed and there IS a new iso updated from the one I'd used for that very thing, so it's delayed a daySep 29 11:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] +Franziskus Domig Screenshot. All these dots are shops? http://ur1.ca/9jd8c... http://b1t.it/caquSep 29 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ur1 Generator .::. Size~: 2.61 KBSep 29 11:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - +Franziskus Domig Screenshot. All these dots are shops? .::. Size~: 143.03 KBSep 29 11:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice aim for Office 2013, cloud support in '13, '14 http://ur1.ca/afq1a #LibreOffice #odf #ibmSep 29 11:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice aim for Office 2013, cloud support in '13, '14  | ZDNet .::. Size~: 78.67 KBSep 29 11:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Beans, beans, beautiful beans. Coffee beans. Must buy. For a reason. It's called Saeco Odea Go :-)Sep 29 11:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Multi-user setup using #fedora #linux http://ur1.ca/afq2mSep 29 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Set up multistation computing centers at events | opensource.com .::. Size~: 47.61 KBSep 29 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Skoro już ktoś ma ochotę nabyć nowego ajfona, to podpowiem, że można się i dobrze zabawić, i zaoszczędzić trochę kasy: bit.ly/SqQ6o1Sep 29 11:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Not sure about the creepiness of this. A google maps search for "AT&T store central park" delivers this result (screen... http://b1t.it/caqSSep 29 11:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Not sure about the creepiness of this. A google maps search… .::. Size~: 150.03 KBSep 29 11:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/97041682Sep 29 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr@grmpyoldman (Tysk Gamlingen) (grmpyoldman)'s status on Saturday, 29-Sep-12 10:12:36 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz link? article? anything?Sep 29 11:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nj3ma/@nj3ma] Yep. Swap coming right up. Olives > Euro anyday!!Sep 29 11:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] X-plane Developer Sued By Patent Troll; Ponders Shuttering Business Or Defending - http://bit.ly/R1Vr2c patents promoting innovation againSep 29 11:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: X-plane Developer Sued By Patent Troll; Ponders Shuttering Business Or Defending | Techdirt .::. Size~: 66.49 KBSep 29 11:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steam for Linux Enters Internal Beta in October http://ur1.ca/afq5a materialising gradually. #gnu #linux #gamesSep 29 11:45
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steam for Linux Enters Internal Beta in October .::. Size~: 133.29 KBSep 29 11:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Adapteva announces #RaspberryPi competitor http://ur1.ca/afq70 #linuxSep 29 12:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Adapteva announces Raspberry Pi competitor | Linux User .::. Size~: 52.72 KBSep 29 12:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Composer Thomas Adès: 'Wagner is a fungus' - http://bit.ly/SqSlrt fab composer; slightly odd interview...Sep 29 12:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Composer Thomas Adès: 'Wagner is a fungus' | Books | The Guardian .::. Size~: 234.63 KBSep 29 12:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Tizen 2.0 Alpha SDK With Source-Code Released http://ur1.ca/afq7x #linux #phonesSep 29 12:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Phoronix] Tizen 2.0 Alpha SDK With Source-Code Released .::. Size~: 16.38 KBSep 29 12:12
iophkhttp://onyxneon.com/books/modern_perl/Sep 29 12:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Modern Perl 2011-2012 edition by chromatic | Onyx Neon Press .::. Size~: 7.43 KBSep 29 12:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @mr202: Wij - 95 % van het spoorwegpersoneel - willen niet staken. Wij worden gedwongen om woensdag http://ur1. ...Sep 29 12:35
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1988516Sep 29 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to #Linux http://freshtutorial.com/migrating-windows-linux/ "1. Linux is not windows"Sep 29 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to Linux .::. Size~: 52.31 KBSep 29 12:40
schestowitz"Aah, cool :)"Sep 29 12:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Und auf einmal geht es ganz schnell. Steinbrück Kanzlerkadidiat, grosse Auftritte. Und dabei ist die Bundestagswahl d... http://b1t.it/cascSep 29 12:54
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Und auf einmal geht es ganz schnell. Steinbrück… .::. Size~: 142.33 KBSep 29 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] that's not browsing in the way I am speaking of. start here: http://ur1.ca/afqd3 how long does it take to find the license for each track?Sep 29 12:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jamendo - Ambush On All Sides by Tenpenny Joke .::. Size~: 14.85 KBSep 29 12:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Okay, so somebody finally made that joke. bit.ly/V9OKi5 #Curiosity #CaturdaySep 29 13:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] look at this guy: http://ur1.ca/afqdh - does he have any Free tracks? how many clicks to find licensing info?Sep 29 13:02
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jamendo - Marc Reeves .::. Size~: 305.59 KBSep 29 13:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] start at this album: http://ur1.ca/afqdq and scroll down the tracks.Sep 29 13:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jamendo - Remember Me by Marc Reeves .::. Size~: 615.91 KBSep 29 13:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] see icons for add, share, & pro. there's room for a mini license icon or license letters. (eg BYSA) but info is not there. wastes my time.Sep 29 13:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I am acutely aware of wasting my valuable time like this from doing the Midnight Freedom Show for Y98. http://ur1.ca/a51diSep 29 13:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: zotz: DJZ. Reflections On The Midnight Freedom Show .::. Size~: 52.68 KBSep 29 13:07
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @shot: obudź się, Kolsko, jest problem. http://ur1.ca/afqb6 [via opi]Sep 29 13:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Czy wolno kapłanowi w czasie mszy łączyć palce - votum separatum do opinii KKBiDS KEP - Liturgia.pl .::. Size~: 224.29 KBSep 29 13:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] EFF is in the Maker Pavilion @MakerFaire NY this weekend! Find us near the Arduino Stage & 3D Printer Village. https://eff.org/r.a7m6Sep 29 13:15
TechrightsBot-trTitle: EFF at the World Maker Faire New York | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 18.77 KBSep 29 13:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Towards #Transparency - http://bit.ly/V9TYKP kudos: #stripe partners with #chillingeffects; others might like to follow (v @dozykraut)Sep 29 13:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stripe Blog: Towards Transparency .::. Size~: 7.45 KBSep 29 13:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @KatBorlongan For you we always have a vacancy at OKFN Belgium in Ghent. You should consider this. Really ;)Sep 29 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @janseurinck Hé Jan, goed gezegd!Sep 29 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: Finally playing with the latest @TheDataTank version and quite like it. Great start for a lot more products.Sep 29 13:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @DriesHenau waauw! Wasbar vermeld in GuardianSep 29 13:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Iranian news agency FARS a subsidiary of The Onion: bit.ly/R27v3e !lol /cc @kyrah404Sep 29 13:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[greve/@greve] RT @charlesschulz "A fork that works": http://ur1.ca/afq97 #LibreOffice #tdforgSep 29 14:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Document Foundation and Open Source LibreOffice Enter Year Three - InternetNews. .::. Size~: 37.23 KBSep 29 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Is anybody still reading hakin9? It was a decent magazine 10 years ago, but that's long gone. bit.ly/R29MLT !lol #nmapSep 29 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Libre, free anti-dyslexia font served cease and dessist: bit.ly/TRpCPk !copyfraudSep 29 14:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Tzag Identizens @Expatpaul @Nybil (nibble) @Andyc @Mcnalu @Ladyj @Chalkahlom @Johnnynull @1111Aether @Theru @Schestowitz @Dvdmrsdn #aaewiuSep 29 14:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] RT @ladyj @satipera !tzag tziggety tzaggety tzaggerino tzagishly tzagecidedlySep 29 14:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Google disables author's account after he publishes his book via Torrents: bit.ly/R2bAVo !copyfraud #corporatocracySep 29 14:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Because it is a foregone conclusion, you see, that all women must be raped" bit.ly/R2cgdn /via @asta_fishSep 29 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to Extreme Noise Terror: A Holocaust In Your HeadSep 29 14:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Jeff Jarvis http://ur1.ca/afqpfSep 29 14:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - The Wall Street Journal's What They Know series is a… .::. Size~: 157.06 KBSep 29 14:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] THIS is why sex education should be in every school! bit.ly/TRvFn4Sep 29 14:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] ♺ @kuro: @ladyj Grooveshark is no longer accessible in Germany - caused by german #copyfraud music organisation #GEMASep 29 14:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Thrash!Sep 29 14:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !listening to Nat King Cole.Sep 29 15:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] RT @schestowitz #Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice aim for Office 2013, cloud support in '13, '14 http://ur1.ca/afq1a #LibreOffice #odf #ibmSep 29 15:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apache OpenOffice, LibreOffice aim for Office 2013, cloud support in '13, '14  | ZDNet .::. Size~: 78.45 KBSep 29 15:17
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mariuzI am very sad to say that Windows 8 is apparently going to be a closed platform: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_store/will-windows-8-allow-developers-to-post-metro-apps/9f28242b-4943-4ca2-bf63-d6f9b3a5b35f … Why isn't anyone covering this?Sep 29 15:23
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Will Windows 8 allow developers to post Metro apps on the web for end - Microsoft Answers .::. Size~: 43.62 KBSep 29 15:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Important issues of our time sustainability, representation, software freedom.Sep 29 15:29
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] RT @schestowitz #MapBox Aims For Open Source, Digital Map Revolution http://ur1.ca/afnqw #opensourceSep 29 15:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[nhi/@nhi] RT @schestowitz #MapBox Aims For Open Source, Digital Map Revolution http://ur1.ca/afnqw #opensource #openstreetmapSep 29 15:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MapBox Aims For OpenStreetMap Revolution | TPM Idea Lab .::. Size~: 44.12 KBSep 29 15:44
TechrightsBot-trTitle: MapBox Aims For OpenStreetMap Revolution | TPM Idea Lab .::. Size~: 44.12 KBSep 29 15:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Kofi Annan: Tony #Blair could ultimately have stopped #Iraq war - http://bit.ly/SVCM7g "What went wrong? What changed him?"Sep 29 15:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Kofi Annan: Tony Blair could ultimately have stopped Iraq war | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 115.52 KBSep 29 15:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Chevron Targeting Private Email Accounts of 101 People Linked To #Ecuador Environmental Case - http://bit.ly/P24yDA evil much? (v @rmack)Sep 29 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] What a complicated web we weave... http://ur1.ca/afqwgSep 29 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chevron Targeting Private Email Accounts of 101 People Linked To Ecuador Environmental Case  – Press Releases on CSRwire.com .::. Size~: 26.5 KBSep 29 15:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Canadian Government ‘Sponsored’ The Pirate Bay | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 27.82 KBSep 29 15:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ccbuhr/@ccbuhr] ccbuhr: Stadt Land Code : An incubator for civic tools in Germany http://t.co/HXCL2zXU http://p.ost.im/p/dMS8NQSep 29 15:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stadt Land Code : An incubator for civic tools in Germany | Open Knowledge Foundation Blog .::. Size~: 59.54 KBSep 29 15:57
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mariuzhttp://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4589376 Windows 8 'Metro' Apps Can Only Be Distributed Through Store Sep 29 15:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Windows 8 'Metro' Apps Can Only Be Distributed Through Store | Hacker News .::. Size~: 66.83 KBSep 29 15:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] I inherited a da Vinci - http://bit.ly/Sr9Wzv lovely story... #artSep 29 16:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Experience: I inherited a da Vinci | Life and style | The Guardian .::. Size~: 147.86 KBSep 29 16:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to NWA - Straight Outta ComptonSep 29 16:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Says Free Software Has No Copyrights http://ur1.ca/afr77 #kenya #microsoft #fud #gpl !gnu !fsfSep 29 17:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Says Free Software Has No Copyrights | Techrights .::. Size~: 83.82 KBSep 29 17:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Python 3.3.0 released http://ur1.ca/afr9dSep 29 17:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @IanBauters Send an e-mail to http://ur1.ca/afr9g with http://ur1.ca/8i4bm and tell us where you'd like http://ur1. ...Sep 29 17:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Python 3.3.0 released [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 7.73 KBSep 29 17:17
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @IanBauters I share your belief. Even better: we're working on a new version. Want to get involved?Sep 29 17:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Microsoft Expected to be Fined for Disobeying European Orders http://ur1.ca/afraa #antitrust #euSep 29 17:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] LINK: Minecraft creator attacks Microsoft's Windows 8 plan - http://is.gd/SBpwUH #microsoft #windows8 #mvp #mvpbuzz #windowsSep 29 17:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - Minecraft creator attacks Microsoft's Windows 8 plan .::. Size~: 80.29 KBSep 29 17:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Senator Carl Levin Goes After Microsoft for Avoiding Tax http://ur1.ca/afrc6 #microsoft #accounting #taxSep 29 17:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Senator Carl Levin Goes After Microsoft for Avoiding Tax | Techrights .::. Size~: 82.08 KBSep 29 17:27
iophkI hope he goes after them for additional reasons, too.Sep 29 17:27
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&list=UUfX55Sx5hEFjoC3cNs6mCUQ&v=Nj628ufciScSep 29 17:30
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/251981020755283968Sep 29 17:36
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @schestowitz I suspect they didn't really understand this issue - we need to communicate better next timeSep 29 17:36
iophkMany are confused and mislead by FRANDSep 29 17:43
*DaemonFC is actually kind of glad to have proprietary graphics driversSep 29 17:47
DaemonFCthere's one thing to remove and install that takes care of everything related to the displaySep 29 17:47
DaemonFCI don't know who had the bright idea to put the open source stuff literally everywhereSep 29 17:47
DaemonFCit makes upgrading just your video card driver involve Mesa, X, and the kernel, which basically means it never happens unless you distribution upgrade or use an unsupported repositorySep 29 17:48
DaemonFCthey could have handled this betterSep 29 17:48
DaemonFCevery game I've come across says "go get the driver from the card vendor"Sep 29 17:49
DaemonFCnow Firefox is doing that tooSep 29 17:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] An update in English on the Finnish math textbook sprint: http://bit.ly/UzP5aI #OppikirjamaratonSep 29 17:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Vesa Linja-ahon blogi: A group of Finnish math teachers write an open textbook in a weekend hackathon .::. Size~: 104.03 KBSep 29 17:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] POSTER: Microsoft & back handers? http://is.gd/pEfrvu #microsoft #windows #mvpbuzz #mvp #windows8Sep 29 18:00
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DaemonFCdoes SUSE still have many high profile kernel people?Sep 29 18:01
DaemonFCI know they lost Greg KHSep 29 18:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] My new coffee machine. Nomnomnom. http://ur1.ca/afrt1Sep 29 18:24
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Photos - Google+ .::. Size~: 85.62 KBSep 29 18:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Popular torrent site ‘Demonoid’ shut down as gift to U.S. government http://ur1.ca/afrv0 #p2p #torrent #politics #demonoidSep 29 18:34
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] #Microsoft Expected to be Fined for Disobeying European Orders http://ur1.ca/afraa #antitrust #euSep 29 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Facebook Open-Sources Internal C++ Libraries http://ur1.ca/afrv7 #facebook #fb #foss #gnu #softwareSep 29 18:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Senator Carl Levin Goes After Microsoft for Avoiding Tax http://ur1.ca/afrc6 #microsoft #accounting #taxSep 29 18:35
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook Open-Sources Internal C++ Libraries | Dr Dobb's .::. Size~: 102.59 KBSep 29 18:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Rat reality show: Russian scientists to broadcast #GMO experiment — RT http://goo.gl/j9w4VSep 29 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Reshared post from Guido van Rossum http://ur1.ca/afrwwSep 29 18:49
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - The official Python 3.3.0 release is out! Congrats to Georg… .::. Size~: 155.44 KBSep 29 18:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Waiting for the first people to complain that my new coffee machine is NOT running with Free Software and what an evil... http://b1t.it/cawXSep 29 18:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #UN considers imposing global taxes — RT http://goo.gl/IdcS5 here we go, the #nwo #gov imposing taxes to sovereign countriesSep 29 19:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Invisible Things: Playing with #QubesOS Networking for Fun and Profit http://goo.gl/nqIQ7 #tor #pentesting #security #freedomtoolsSep 29 19:04
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] 9/29/2012 -- Brightest Comet in Human History Coming! Comet 2012 S1 (C/2012 S1 ISON) - YouTube http://goo.gl/4zdaW #astronomy #2012Sep 29 19:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Interesting. Dutch Council of State asks European Court of Justice for opinion on fingerprints and biometric data in p... http://b1t.it/caw8Sep 29 19:09
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1988517Sep 29 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to #Linux http://freshtutorial.com/migrating-windows-linux/ "1. Linux is not windows"Sep 29 19:09
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schestowitz"Sep 29 19:12
schestowitzSo bascially marc you don't understand why people seek alternatives to Windows because you don't hate Windows. Which makes perfect sense. However, obviously everybody does not share your view of Windows. Last week sometime I had to use Windows 7 to do something, and I noticed that out of four essentially randomly chosen programs, each of them had their save/open/copy/paste menus in entirely different places. I couldn't even tell which Sep 29 19:12
schestowitzscreen widget to press to actually get to a frickin' menu. Windows is so braindead that there is basically no advantage to having a GUI over the commandline.Sep 29 19:12
schestowitzBTW there are lots of UNIX alternatives to Linux, such as FreeBSD to name the most popular example. There are tons of FreeBSD machines out there.Sep 29 19:12
schestowitz"Sep 29 19:12
schestowitz"Sep 29 19:12
schestowitz@Paul - well, I actually meant the motivation of switching to other OS. Of course I do see problems with Windows. In fact, I would never use it as my primary OS. It may be good for games, but not for a real work and I always find myself limited by the Windows OS itself [when I have to use it, which is - thankfully - not very often]. I do share your frustration with Windows 7 UI, too. I just don't think it should be the reason to bash Sep 29 19:12
schestowitzWindows everytime we talk about GNU/Linux. Like GNU/Linux? cool, praise linux, be constructive. Bashing others is - IMHO - not very constructive thing to do. Developing your OS of choice, helping with chosen project IS :)Sep 29 19:12
schestowitzRegarding other OSs: I am [primarily] an OpenBSD guy, even though I started with GNU/Linux. GNU/Linux was not really stable at the time I started to use other OSs, so I ended up with various *BSD OSs and particularly OpenBSD [for many years to come]. I actually use OpenBSD to this very day, but not as often as I used to. Now it's actually almost exclusively Debian [my latest transition. Works great for me].Sep 29 19:12
schestowitzThx for this great discussion! it's good to share our frustration for bad sides of the IT world.Sep 29 19:12
schestowitz"Sep 29 19:12
schestowitz"OK thanks for explaining further, I understand your original comment much better now. I basically agree that it is better to talk about the positives of free software than the many negatives of Windows and OSX. Personally I am in the middle of migrating slowly away from OSX. Can't move too quickly though as there are still several things I can't replace, like Final Cut Pro..."Sep 29 19:13
DaemonFCschestowitz: Their unwillingness to use software under the GPL 3 in the core system is ridiculousSep 29 19:17
DaemonFCGCC 4.2 is killing themSep 29 19:17
DaemonFCthey're trying to switch to ClangSep 29 19:18
DaemonFCthey want to declare GCC to be deprecated by FreeBSD 10Sep 29 19:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @dimitrivh Dat is morgen nog een dag?Sep 29 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: RT @DriesHenau: Volgen jullie #WASBAR al? @WasbarGentSep 29 19:20
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Fukushima Reactor 4 poses massive global risk - http://bit.ly/PAmbX6 great example of how corporate stupidity could harm us... (v @techsoc)Sep 29 19:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I used to search for specifics on Flickr, but having to click through to the !copyright info to find the !cc license was timeconsumingSep 29 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz which is when I decided that my first search parameter should always be free.Sep 29 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz !jamendo has just undergone a huge change, in an attempt to offer music the way people increasingly expect it, by individual track.Sep 29 19:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz even so, to accommodate dinosaurs like us, !jamendo continues to offer listings by album as well.Sep 29 19:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz making this change to a much used online platform would have consumed a huge resources, required much programming. Choices were made.Sep 29 19:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I do not think @jamendo deliberately made accessing !CC license info difficult; I think it a byproduct of large scale change.Sep 29 19:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz have you brought this up withj @jamendo and/or asked if/when desired changes can be made to !jamendo ?Sep 29 19:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Slackware 14 released http://ur1.ca/afs4kSep 29 19:45
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @zotz I agree making license info accessible is important, and so I'd be willing to add my voice to a letter/petition re !jamendo !ccSep 29 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] ♻ @PoppedCulture Omar Khadr returns to !Canada: “His spirits are good. He is very, very happy to be home.” http://ur1.ca/afs59 #KhadrSep 29 19:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Omar Khadr has been returned to Canada, Vic Toews confirms | Canada | News | National Post .::. Size~: 105.39 KBSep 29 19:52
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DaemonFCI wonder when that Valve steam beta opens upSep 29 19:57
DaemonFCI'll test it if I get a free gameSep 29 19:57
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to PulpSep 29 19:59
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MinceRhttp://blog.openwebosproject.org/post/32462950628/open-webos-1-0-editionSep 29 20:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Open webOS Project Blog, Open webOS 1.0 Edition .::. Size~: 88.13 KBSep 29 20:03
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Is Omar Khadr is this generation's Stephen Truscott? http://freedetainees.org/omar-ahmed-khadr/ :(Sep 29 20:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Omar Ahmed Khadr « freedetainees.org .::. Size~: 54.88 KBSep 29 20:04
schestowitzyeah, will it fly?Sep 29 20:06
schestowitzThere's also tizen awakeningSep 29 20:06
schestowitzsome samsung phoneSep 29 20:06
schestowitzand then there's jolla with meegoSep 29 20:06
schestowitzLIPS and LiMo don't mean much anymore, I think they've collapsed onto Tizen which is also related to MeeGo and formerly MoblinSep 29 20:07
schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/1989265Sep 29 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft Says Free Software Has No Copyrights  http://techrights.org/2012/09/29/kenya-fud/ #kenya #microsoft #fud #gpl !gnu !fsfSep 29 20:07
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schestowitz"Not sure if liars or **ignorants**.."Sep 29 20:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1989282Sep 29 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft Expected to be Fined for Disobeying European Orders http://techrights.org/2012/09/29/europe-browser/ #antitrust #euSep 29 20:08
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schestowitzIt's about the time. Too bad they are not punished for their DOC/X, ODT interoperability problems. No specs for DOC/X - no good support in OO/LO. OO/LO [ODF] gives them FULL spec, yet they - somehow - managed to BREAK ODT SUPPORT in MS Office 2010 ... how crazy sick is that?Sep 29 20:08
schestowitzMonopolists!Sep 29 20:08
schestowitz"Sep 29 20:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Tuinslak @CandyTin what's the drink?Sep 29 20:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1982142Sep 29 20:09
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mageia Linux: A Delightful OS for Work or Play http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/Mageia-Linux-A-Delightful-OS-for-Work-or-Play-76238.html #gnu #linux #mandrivaSep 29 20:09
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schestowitz"tried it. Gave up due to their nightmare network manager (same with PCLOS)"Sep 29 20:09
MinceRdunno if it will flySep 29 20:11
DaemonFCApparently openSUSE is the best Linux ever and ZOMG CRAPSep 29 20:26
DaemonFCfrom the same comment threadSep 29 20:26
DaemonFCalthough I do concur with the anti-Linux Troll #1 when he says that Nouveau seems to be garbageSep 29 20:27
DaemonFCit works about half the time, and when it doesn't, you can't get X to loadSep 29 20:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening. If you have not listened to Ultra Violence: Psycho Drama do yourself a favour.Sep 29 20:27
DaemonFCthat's a pretty bad failure caseSep 29 20:27
*DaemonFC wonders what the done thing is here when you can't get Nouveau to workSep 29 20:27
DaemonFCI mean, I doubt anyone with a Fermi or Kepler is using Nouveau Sep 29 20:28
DaemonFCit might be better to just fall back to something basic to let them get to nvidia without having to figure out why something that attempts to do all this fancy stuff just prints kernel errors to the screenSep 29 20:28
DaemonFC(but then they wouldn't have any "beta testers"/ victimsSep 29 20:29
DaemonFC:DSep 29 20:29
DaemonFCNouveau is about everything I expected it would beSep 29 20:29
DaemonFCfor kicks I swapped out my GTX 560 with an old 9500 GT and there, Nouveau is a completely different storySep 29 20:29
DaemonFCI couldn't really tell the difference between it or nvidia other than I got native console resolution B-)Sep 29 20:30
DaemonFCso they do a kickass job on old hardware and a not so great job on anything recentSep 29 20:30
DaemonFCI would say that they should probably give Fermi and Kepler users vesa and instructions on how to switch it over to nouveau if they're feeling lucky or nvidia if they just want the card to fully workSep 29 20:31
DaemonFCknowing Ubuntu, I figure that they might not even bother fixing this before 12.10 goes outSep 29 20:32
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DaemonFC"Oh, we just obliterated X on hardware that is widely used...no big deal... It's not an LTS!"Sep 29 20:32
DaemonFCfewt: If you're listening, you might want to skip Linux 3.5 entirely on fewtbuntu ;)Sep 29 20:33
fewtI won't be shipping 3.5Sep 29 20:33
fewtand I am listening :)Sep 29 20:33
DaemonFCNouveau is majorly trashed in 3.5Sep 29 20:33
fewtWe'll probably jump to 3.6, but not right away.Sep 29 20:34
DaemonFCit doesn't work again until 3.6 rc7Sep 29 20:34
fewtPerfectly happy with 3.4 for now.Sep 29 20:34
fewtjust sent 3.4.11 up for testing this morning actually.Sep 29 20:34
DaemonFCI'd be open to trying out PC-BSD, other than performance of FreeBSD itself is in the crapper lately compared with LinuxSep 29 20:34
DaemonFCthey'd be doing everyone a favor if they'd use a recent GCC while planning to migrate to Clang laterSep 29 20:35
DaemonFCI'm still stuck on Kubuntu Precise because I don't really feel like handling Linux 3.5 or figuring out exactly which distributions aren't planning to package itSep 29 20:36
fewtahhSep 29 20:36
DaemonFCFedora 17 pulled in Linux 3.5 a while backSep 29 20:36
fewtyeah, we don't really follow Fedora at all anymoreSep 29 20:36
fewtmore fun to just do our own thing. :)Sep 29 20:36
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DaemonFCwell, I don't really care what Nouveau is doingSep 29 20:37
DaemonFCif they ever get it working on par with Nvidia on Fermi I'll switch over to itSep 29 20:37
DaemonFCbut in the mean time, don't destroy my ability to use X for the 10 minutes it takes me to install NvidiaSep 29 20:38
DaemonFC:PSep 29 20:38
fewt:)Sep 29 20:38
DaemonFCthese distributions make it very very hard to tell Nouveau not to loadSep 29 20:38
DaemonFCand t he kernel lines to do it with are different on every distributionSep 29 20:38
DaemonFCand they change between releasesSep 29 20:38
DaemonFCfewt: I finally completely blew a fuse and ripped out my RadeonSep 29 20:39
DaemonFCI tried to launch Skyrim in Wine and Catalyst garbled the screen insteadSep 29 20:39
fewtoh shi-Sep 29 20:39
DaemonFCI tried to load Anomaly from the Humble Bundle.....Sep 29 20:39
DaemonFChard freezeSep 29 20:39
DaemonFCCatalyst againSep 29 20:40
DaemonFC:)Sep 29 20:40
DaemonFCthey're not even interested in looking into it (the Anomaly devs)Sep 29 20:40
fewtWe have someone on the team that tests all the humble bundle games and documents their compatibility. :)Sep 29 20:40
fewtI didn't have much luck when I bought one of the humble bundle packs - couldn't get any help at all so I stopped buying them.Sep 29 20:40
DaemonFCtheir advice was to remove Catalyst and install the 12.4 beta that came with Precise that was frozen back in March and fucks with kwinSep 29 20:41
DaemonFCso.....Sep 29 20:41
DaemonFCI don't think I'll be doing anything involving Radeons for a whileSep 29 20:41
DaemonFCfewt: The hardware is impressiveSep 29 20:41
DaemonFCthe Windows driver probably worksSep 29 20:41
DaemonFCCatalyst Linux is garbageSep 29 20:42
DaemonFCit's untouchableSep 29 20:42
fewtXDSep 29 20:42
DaemonFCthey fix one thing and get it working beautifully, for like kwinSep 29 20:42
DaemonFCand then somewhere else, there's a completely new bugSep 29 20:42
DaemonFCand it stops a game that worked from workingSep 29 20:42
DaemonFCand they don't fix thatSep 29 20:42
DaemonFCand then when they do fix some bug that was annoying you, it's a year later and it comes with an announcement that your hardware is going to the Legacy DriverSep 29 20:43
DaemonFCwhich is basically the Penalty BoxSep 29 20:43
DaemonFC"HAHAHAH!!! YOU STUPID PERSON! NOW YOU NEVER GET TO LEAVE THE LATEST UBUNTU LTS!"Sep 29 20:43
DaemonFCbecause it's not like nvidia-legacySep 29 20:44
DaemonFCwherever the legacy Catalyst development stopped is where it stopped and it will never work on any newer kernel or X than where they left itSep 29 20:44
DaemonFCNvidia's Legacy driver just means it's out of what you'd call a "production phase 1" supportSep 29 20:45
DaemonFCthey update the kernel and X modules and fix bugs, but that's all you getSep 29 20:45
DaemonFCbut it goes on indefinitelySep 29 20:45
DaemonFCthere's Nvidia cards from 10 years ago that have a working legacy driver from this monthSep 29 20:45
DaemonFCat some point, you can't blame themSep 29 20:45
DaemonFCthe driver is as optimized as it will get and supports everything those batches of cards can doSep 29 20:46
DaemonFCand it's hindering development of drivers for new cardsSep 29 20:46
DaemonFCso they split it off into a separate packageSep 29 20:46
DaemonFCOK, that's awesomeSep 29 20:46
DaemonFCleaving someone stuck on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (which is what they did with everything older than RadeonHD hardware in 2008) isn't coolSep 29 20:47
DaemonFCand they did it again to people this year and stranded everyone with anything older than a 5000 series on Ubuntu 12.04Sep 29 20:47
DaemonFCso they better hope r600g starts looking a lot better than it is now real soon, or the LTS will get crusty and there's no place for them to goSep 29 20:48
DaemonFCfewt: I'd be perfectly happy planning to stay on the LTS if I knew that backports PPAs were going to be maintained from now until at least 2014Sep 29 20:49
DaemonFCbut I have a feeling that they're going to leave KDE 4.9.2 or something in there foreverSep 29 20:49
fewtI stay as far away from Ubuntu as I can :DSep 29 20:49
DaemonFCthen delete it before the next LTS is outSep 29 20:49
DaemonFCfewt: They did something in the LTS that kind of made me wonder about their sanitySep 29 20:50
DaemonFCdnsmasq by defaultSep 29 20:50
DaemonFCthat's great if it works, but at least several models of cable modems from a few different ISPs have DNS lookup failures with dnsmasq running the way Ubuntu configured itSep 29 20:50
DaemonFCit even hinders your ability to set the system up because the installer needs to go grab some stuff from the internetSep 29 20:51
fewtFuduntu 2012.4 gets released Monday morning.Sep 29 20:51
fewt:)Sep 29 20:51
DaemonFCyeah, but no KDESep 29 20:51
DaemonFCWHY U NO LIKE KDE!?!?!?!?Sep 29 20:52
DaemonFC:)Sep 29 20:52
fewtjust need a maintainer.Sep 29 20:52
DaemonFCI can't really see why anyone with a fast modern graphics card would want to use what's essentially metacity from GNOME 2 :)Sep 29 20:53
DaemonFCand Canonical has made such a fucking mess out of Compiz that I don't feel comfortable trying to use it as the window manager in MATESep 29 20:53
fewtCompiz still works great, there are some bugs but - Sep 29 20:53
fewtI was just going to mention the Canonical version of compizSep 29 20:53
fewtit is a messSep 29 20:53
DaemonFCwell, indirect renderingSep 29 20:53
DaemonFCyuckSep 29 20:53
DaemonFCOpenGL 1Sep 29 20:53
DaemonFCewwwSep 29 20:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is morgenland from identi.ca with 91 dents!Sep 29 20:54
DaemonFCand I think they still carry around dozens of hacks for old (and I mean ancient) graphics driversSep 29 20:54
DaemonFCtell people to upgrade their drivers and remove the hacksSep 29 20:54
DaemonFCthey still have shit in Compiz that works around Catalyst 10.x bugs and I saw one that was for an old OpenOffice.org bug that has been fixed since foreverSep 29 20:55
DaemonFC(even before distributions switched to LibreOffice)Sep 29 20:55
DaemonFCif you have to add a hack to fix something for the next six months while Nvidia or AMD's current drivers are affected, it should probably be temporary and you should definitely go file bug reports in Nvidia and AMD's bug systemSep 29 20:56
DaemonFCinstead, we have window managers carrying around hacks from 2003 versions of OpenOfficeSep 29 20:56
DaemonFCand versions of video drivers that haven't been around in 5-6 yearsSep 29 20:56
fewtXDSep 29 20:56
DaemonFCthat's not the mark of qualitySep 29 20:56
fewtlike the smurf patch?Sep 29 20:57
DaemonFCI'm amazed it even works at allSep 29 20:57
fewt;)Sep 29 20:57
DaemonFCreally, if you have to carry around a window matching hack, you should tell upstream that they have 6 months to fix it and then you're removing the hack no matter whatSep 29 20:57
DaemonFCand pointing users that complain to themSep 29 20:57
DaemonFCthere's all kinds of unfortunate garbage in kwin that's slowly being removedSep 29 20:58
DaemonFCthey're still piling it on with CompizSep 29 20:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1988517Sep 29 20:59
TechrightsBot-tr@linux@joindiaspora.com: 9 things to consider while migrating from Windows to #Linux http://freshtutorial.com/migrating-windows-linux/ "1. Linux is not windows"Sep 29 20:59
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schestowitz"As soon as Apple announced the iPhone App Store would be closed, I knew I would one day have to leave the Mac. And I knew that Windows wouldn't be an option, because whatever Apple can get away with, Microsoft is sure to follow."Sep 29 20:59
DaemonFCthere's always at least a little overhead for a window matching ruleSep 29 20:59
DaemonFCeven if it's just to check every window title for a match and deciding to do nothing from thereSep 29 20:59
DaemonFCyou get one or two, it's not going to be noticeable, but you should try to keep the number at zero if possible :)Sep 29 21:00
DaemonFCI'd be perfectly happy to just take in new versions of kwin separately from KDESep 29 21:01
DaemonFCthat's where most of the visible improvement to KDE is going on lately anywaySep 29 21:01
DaemonFCand kwin 4.9 has so little overhead that it's competitive with XFCE for framerate of other OpenGL applications running concurrently with itSep 29 21:02
DaemonFCrunning them under Compiz, on the other hand..... that will kill your framerateSep 29 21:02
DaemonFCthat's a visible degradation in performance, and Phoronix (for whatever they're worth) finally confirmed what I noticed the first time I tried running a game under Compiz in Ubuntu 12.04Sep 29 21:03
DaemonFCit needs a lot of love that Ubuntu has no plans to give itSep 29 21:03
DaemonFCthey're still carrying around a hack for FGLRX that hasn't been necessary since around Ubuntu 11.10Sep 29 21:04
DaemonFCCompiz checks to see if the driver is FGLRXSep 29 21:04
DaemonFCif it is, then Compiz renames its process to something else, opens an OpenGL context, and then renames itself to Compiz againSep 29 21:05
DaemonFCbecause at the same time, older versions of FGLRX detected Compiz asking for an OpenGL context, knew Compiz couldn't handle direct rendering, and it would deny the request for OpenGL 2 level featuresSep 29 21:06
DaemonFCand around and round we go....Sep 29 21:06
DaemonFCwe have Compiz in Ubuntu 12.04 with a workaround for old versions of FGLRX which had a workaround for older versions of Compiz, because FGLRX knew that Compiz was broken and that FGLRX couldn't properly handle direct renderingSep 29 21:08
DaemonFCbut it's OK because Compiz had a workaround for thatSep 29 21:09
DaemonFCand that's what you get when there's no communication at all between the people writing the video drivers and the people that write the window managerSep 29 21:09
DaemonFCI think Compiz is basically finishedSep 29 21:10
DaemonFCin that it sucks on Ubuntu and nobody else is stupid enough to want itSep 29 21:10
DaemonFCfewt: So I told that rant so I can tell this rant.....Sep 29 21:11
DaemonFCWhy would anyone with a modern graphics accelerator want to use Metacity?Sep 29 21:11
DaemonFCB-)Sep 29 21:11
fewtlolSep 29 21:11
fewtniceSep 29 21:11
fewtbecause they can?Sep 29 21:11
fewtXDSep 29 21:11
DaemonFCyou can, if you want something that's sort of like how Windows XP sees your $500 graphics cardSep 29 21:11
fewtwell it's not that badSep 29 21:12
fewtXDSep 29 21:12
DaemonFCbut there's people that are running configurations like that as wellSep 29 21:12
DaemonFCI was reading video card reviews on Amazon the other day and came across someone trying to run a Kepler card on Windows XPSep 29 21:13
DaemonFCpeople do some really crazy shitSep 29 21:13
DaemonFCso here you're dealing with all of Windows XP's problems Sep 29 21:13
DaemonFCit's more than 10 years oldSep 29 21:13
fewtXP is so awesomeSep 29 21:13
fewtbest OS evarSep 29 21:13
fewt /jokeSep 29 21:13
DaemonFCbetween BIOS shadowing and the 2 GB of RAM on that graphics accelerator, even if you get it to workSep 29 21:13
DaemonFCyou now have 1.8 GB of system RAM left that you can useSep 29 21:14
fewtload all the apps into memory!Sep 29 21:14
DaemonFCwell, unless you can get Windows XP x64 edition to workSep 29 21:14
fewt:)Sep 29 21:14
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DaemonFCI think that lets you use 128 GB, so you're fine thereSep 29 21:14
DaemonFCif you can find a driver for thatSep 29 21:14
DaemonFCMicrosoft didn't dare letting XP x64 go out into widespread useSep 29 21:15
DaemonFCyou think they'll never get rid of XP, they would NEVER have gotten rid of the x64 edition if it got out there and hardware manufactorers properly supported it, and so onSep 29 21:15
fewtI had a copy of XP 64 years and years agoSep 29 21:16
DaemonFCI wish GPU manufacturers would just cut off Windows XP completelySep 29 21:16
DaemonFCquit enabling the idiotsSep 29 21:16
fewtit came with an HP loaner workstation that a company I was working for was evaluating.Sep 29 21:16
DaemonFCquit using developer resources on that ancient garbageSep 29 21:17
fewtnever deployed it, too buggySep 29 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] @zotz done. I'm growing convinced the miscommunication has to do with the different definition of “educational works”Sep 29 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !spamreport userID: 1057656 commercial 'Like' spamSep 29 21:17
fewtgeez that was probably 10 years ago XDSep 29 21:17
MinceRforce winblows users onto newer garbage? :>Sep 29 21:17
DaemonFCit didn't have proper support for MTP devicesSep 29 21:17
DaemonFCI remember telling it my MP3 player was an external hard driveSep 29 21:17
DaemonFCthen it workedSep 29 21:17
MinceRwinblows still doesn't have proper support for USB devicesSep 29 21:17
DaemonFCMinceR: They tend to use common code between platformsSep 29 21:18
fewtWhat, Windows 8 is spectacular!  It is great for FOSS developers everywhere because no-one is going to use it. HAH!Sep 29 21:18
MinceRlolSep 29 21:18
MinceRyes, in that way, the vista series are greatSep 29 21:18
DaemonFCif they're supporting Windows XP, it's definitely cutting into the quality of their support for later versions of Windows, and Linux, and BSD, and Solaris....Sep 29 21:18
fewt+Sep 29 21:18
DaemonFCit's not just Windows I care about, in fact, I don't care about itSep 29 21:19
DaemonFCbut you know what supporting XP must mean at this pointSep 29 21:19
fewtEveryone I know that has touched it thinks its trash.Sep 29 21:19
fewt:)Sep 29 21:19
DaemonFCI think they should say that anyone using anything older than Windows Vista with SP2 and the Platform Update is officially cut offSep 29 21:20
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DaemonFCand there goes a lot of their support problemsSep 29 21:20
sebsebseb Sep 29 21:20
DaemonFCthey're still supporting configurations that Microsoft doesn'tSep 29 21:20
sebsebsebDaemonFC:  Sep 29 21:20
sebsebsebMinceR:  Sep 29 21:20
*DaemonFC needs to groom the cat...Sep 29 21:21
DaemonFCI just swept in here yesterday and there's cat hair everywhere againSep 29 21:21
MinceRsebsebseb: Sep 29 21:22
sebsebsebMinceR:  Sep 29 21:22
MinceRDaemonFC: i think they should say the truth: no version of winblows is supported. :>Sep 29 21:22
DaemonFCthe unspoken rule of proprietary software development is that you have to keep it brokenSep 29 21:24
DaemonFCor you can't charge for the upgradeSep 29 21:24
DaemonFCsoftware that works too well will put you out of business because people will park themselves there and never updateSep 29 21:25
MinceRone reason nonfree software will stay inferior to free software :>Sep 29 21:25
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fewtnonfreerior software?Sep 29 21:26
fewtXDSep 29 21:26
MinceR:>Sep 29 21:26
DaemonFCthey keep a lot of updates that solve serious problems out of Windows Update and make you request them one by oneSep 29 21:26
DaemonFCsometimes you can't get the patch without some kind of Software Assurance account or somethingSep 29 21:27
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DaemonFCthey only fix issues that bother their business customers, and they try to keep the patches out of circulationSep 29 21:27
fewtWell I'm out, bbl.Sep 29 21:28
DaemonFCthe businesses are paying their subscription fees whether they use Windows XP or Windows 7, but home users won't feel compelled to update if the serious problems in the current version are fixedSep 29 21:28
DaemonFCif you only get paid upon an actual update, you need customers that want to updateSep 29 21:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to Rush.Sep 29 21:29
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DaemonFCI might try my luck with Fedora againSep 29 22:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1984413Sep 29 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nokia Might Dump Windows, Embrace Android Soon http://techrights.org/2012/09/27/nokia-wakeup/  #android #wp7 #elop #moleSep 29 22:10
TechrightsBot-tr-> Title: Nokia Might Dump Windows, Embrace Android Soon | Techrights .::. Size~: 84.54 KBSep 29 22:10
schestowitz"Sounds more like wishful thinking. Microsoft has invested billions of dollars. I think they are going to stay with Windows Phone as an OS for a while."Sep 29 22:10
MinceRthey would need to dump elop as wellSep 29 22:10
MinceRlooks like guessing anywaySep 29 22:11
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Do you figure that openSUSE is going to go on much longer?Sep 29 22:15
DaemonFCthey seem to be.....losing peopleSep 29 22:15
MinceRis m$ propping them up?Sep 29 22:16
MinceRdoes AttackMate still care about them?Sep 29 22:16
DaemonFCI guess openSUSE could go on even without Attachmate's supportSep 29 22:16
DaemonFCthe only thing they seem to be doing lately is paying for the hosting and build systemSep 29 22:17
DaemonFCit seems to be a lot easier to screw yourself over with Yast and Zypper than it is with yum and ApperSep 29 22:21
DaemonFCI've always kind of felt that Yast has been a huge drag on openSUSESep 29 22:21
DaemonFCthey need to get rid of itSep 29 22:21
DaemonFCit's horrendously overengineeredSep 29 22:21
schestowitz[22:15] <DaemonFC> schestowitz: Do you figure that openSUSE is going to go on much longer?Sep 29 22:25
schestowitzit still goes?Sep 29 22:25
DaemonFCthey just put out a new release this monthSep 29 22:26
DaemonFC12.2Sep 29 22:26
DaemonFCsadly it seems that they're left scrounging around for Fedora's scrapsSep 29 22:27
DaemonFClike systemdSep 29 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Scary New Malware Uses Your Smartphone To Map Your House for Robbers http://goo.gl/Jb1jUSep 29 22:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Scary New Malware Uses Your Smartphone To Map Your House for Robbers | Gizmodo UK .::. Size~: 50.54 KBSep 29 22:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Website for think tank rejects browser do-not-track requests http://goo.gl/ayOQqSep 29 22:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Website for think tank rejects browser do-not-track requests | PCWorld .::. Size~: 40.76 KBSep 29 22:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Facebook claims proposed privacy rules for minors violate the First Amendment http://goo.gl/vo6Lk #fbSep 29 22:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there needs to be a comedy sketch with footballers in their daily lives unable to stay on their feet when someone near them breathes at themSep 29 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Here's how to upload #photos to #WikiLovesMonuments if you are in !Canada http://ur1.ca/afsp6Sep 29 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] where simply walking down the street feels like walking on an undulating sand dune, get up only to fall down again #football #divingSep 29 22:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 in Canada Uploading - Wikimedia Canada .::. Size~: 17.22 KBSep 29 22:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] a fly buzzing too close & farting causes the footballer to tumble to the ground, the hands automatically shooting up are in embarassmentSep 29 22:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Apple basically screwed over all iPhone users in Canada", "Unfortunately I'm locked into another 3-year contract" bit.ly/StOo0HSep 29 22:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Congratulations!! ♻ @pensadorlouco From next edition of Full Circle Magazine on, yours truly will be drawing the !comics page. 8)Sep 29 22:40
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] IF #Suarez goes down easy? WTF? there is no "if" in that statement, he does, he's worked hard & consistently to earn that reputationSep 29 22:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #AshleyYoung & #Nani are well on their way to that same reputationSep 29 22:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] !Listening to The Walkmen: Lisbon Then off to bed for a read !Tzaf Identizens.Sep 29 22:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] there's as much "if" in #Suarez going down easy, as there is in the #Sun writing fiction to pass as factual news #football #divingSep 29 22:49
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] [RT] Moody's Microblog Daily Digest 120928 - http://bit.ly/V9dIOs yesterday's tweets as a single Web page #MMDDSep 29 23:12
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Moody's Microblog Daily Digest: 120928 .::. Size~: 72.87 KBSep 29 23:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Ann #RMoney is concerned about #Mitt's mental health if he wins the elections bit.ly/Qd0VYp well, she's not the only one!Sep 29 23:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Do I understand correctly that !Mozilla #Persona aka #BrowserID is a centralized service?Sep 29 23:44
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