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MinceR:)Oct 08 06:52
MinceR<+apo> If a homeopath drinks diluted antimatter, will that make them matter?Oct 08 07:10
MinceR<+agmlego> No, I doubt anything can make homeopathy matter.Oct 08 07:10
qu1j0t3bash.orgOct 08 07:22
MinceRactually it's from xkcdb.comOct 08 07:26
qu1j0t3moral equiv!Oct 08 07:27
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEnhbYwAJWc&list=LLP0DYh2wtN1I5DK2bMalMXQ&feature=mh_lolzOct 08 18:26
TechrightsSocialTitle: Body Modification - YouTube .::. Size~: 165.51 KBOct 08 18:26
schestowitzgood videoOct 08 18:26
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schestowitz"Oct 08 18:56
schestowitz> I wanted to follow up on the email I sent last week regarding Nimbula’sOct 08 18:56
schestowitz> upcoming announcement on Monday, October 15. Nimbula, the cloudOct 08 18:56
schestowitz> operating system company, will announce that it has joined the OpenStackOct 08 18:56
schestowitz> community and will be giving back to the project by contributingOct 08 18:56
schestowitz> intellectual property (IP) in the areas of compute and networking. I’veOct 08 18:57
schestowitz> included additional information in the note below.Oct 08 18:57
schestowitzHi Gabe,Oct 08 18:57
schestowitzThere is no such thing as intellectual property (IP). This is marketing rubbish. Please stop sending me lots of RP E-mails. Thanks.Oct 08 18:57
schestowitz"Oct 08 18:57
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schestowitzOne of the most persistent myths about the copyright monopoly has beenOct 08 19:49
schestowitzthat it’s needed to make money. This assertion turns out to be false forOct 08 19:49
schestowitza very large number of observed cases, but the plural of anecdote isOct 08 19:49
schestowitznever statistics. So let’s look at some sound statistical evidence forOct 08 19:49
schestowitzpolicymaking on this issue.Oct 08 19:49
schestowitz...Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzIn the population, there is a strong majority for reducing the monopolyOct 08 19:49
schestowitzso that it doesn’t limit noncommercial sharing of knowledge and cultureOct 08 19:49
schestowitzbetween family, friends, and strangers; when concentrating on theOct 08 19:49
schestowitzyounger half of the population, that majority shifts from strong toOct 08 19:49
schestowitzoverwhelming.Oct 08 19:49
schestowitz...Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzMyth: The copyright monopoly is an essential source of income to artistsOct 08 19:49
schestowitztoday.Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzFact: Out of the money spent on culture, a mere 2% (yes, two per cent)Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzmake it to individual artists through mechanisms of the copyrightOct 08 19:49
schestowitzmonopoly. This was studied in-depth in Sweden by Ulf Pettersson in 2006Oct 08 19:49
schestowitz(link to article, direct link to study, both in Swedish), who concludedOct 08 19:49
schestowitzthat the vast majority of artists get their income from other means –Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzeverything from a day job to student loans.Oct 08 19:49
schestowitz...Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzMyth: Without the incentive of possibly getting money, nobody will goOct 08 19:49
schestowitzinto artistry and create.Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzFact: People create despite the copyright monopoly, not because of it.Oct 08 19:49
schestowitzYouTube sees 72 hours of video uploaded every minute. Arguably, most ofOct 08 19:50
schestowitzit will remain unseen, but there are certainly gems in there. Also, theOct 08 19:50
schestowitzargument is bunk from the simple observation that there is a vastOct 08 19:50
schestowitzoversupply of artists compared to what the market will hold: you canOct 08 19:50
schestowitzeasily find a professional accountant who picks up an electric guitar inOct 08 19:50
schestowitztheir spare time for a bit of relaxation, but show me one singleOct 08 19:50
schestowitzprofessional guitarist who relaxes with a bit of bookkeeping in theirOct 08 19:50
schestowitzspare time.Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzGNU/Linux and Wikipedia are two excellent counterpoints that shattersOct 08 19:50
schestowitzthis weird myth. The dominant operating system and dominant encyclopediaOct 08 19:50
schestowitzwas created by unpaid volunteers. (When I say that GNU/Linux isOct 08 19:50
schestowitz“dominant”, I include the Android derivative, just for the record.)Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzWe have created since we learned to put red paint on the inside of caveOct 08 19:50
schestowitzwalls, not because of the possibility of making money, but because ofOct 08 19:50
schestowitzwho we are, because of how we are wired. (Usually, people who are intoOct 08 19:50
schestowitzlife for the money don’t go into artistry in the first place. They go toOct 08 19:50
schestowitzlaw school or medical school. There’s a reason for the parents’ face ofOct 08 19:50
schestowitzdespair when their child says they’ve decided to be a poet for aOct 08 19:50
schestowitzliving.)Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzThe myth that the copyright monopoly is needed for any kind of artistryOct 08 19:50
schestowitzto make money, or even to happen in the first place, is an obscene mythOct 08 19:50
schestowitzperpetuated by those who have something to gain from skimming off 90% ofOct 08 19:50
schestowitzthe artists’ money by denying them an audience in an old-styleOct 08 19:50
schestowitzracketeering.Oct 08 19:50
schestowitz[/quote]Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzIt's also interesting to note that apparently Sony is an avid, albeitOct 08 19:50
schestowitzhighly unexpected, follower of TorrentFreak:Oct 08 19:50
schestowitz[quote]Oct 08 19:50
schestowitz Troed Sångberg 16 hours ago in reply to Ynot_82Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzAndroid mobile OEM here. We're happy to give due credit to Linux!Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzhttp://developer.sonymobile.com/2011/05/06/how-to-build-a-linux-kernel/Oct 08 19:50
schestowitz[/quote]Oct 08 19:50
schestowitzhttp://tinyurl.com/9xfqprfOct 08 19:50
TechrightsSocialTitle: How to build a Linux kernel and flash it to the phone –  Developer World .::. Size~: 67.36 KBOct 08 19:50
TechrightsSocialTitle: NO TITLE .::. Size~: 2.23 KBOct 08 19:50
qu1j0t3  dogbert2 | rotflmao...google and apple spent more on patents than on R&D last year         Oct 08 21:45
qu1j0t3      ASau | So what?                                                                        Oct 08 21:45
qu1j0t3  dogbert2 | well, just shows what a mess the patent system really is (per se)               Oct 08 21:45
qu1j0t3      ASau | You won't believe it, but you spend more money and time on TV and food than on  Oct 08 21:45
qu1j0t3           | R&D.                                                                            Oct 08 21:45
qu1j0t3      ASau | And 1/3 of your whole time you sleep.                                           Oct 08 21:45
qu1j0t3         * | ASau shrugs.                                                                    Oct 08 21:45
schestowitzlolOct 08 22:55
schestowitzqu1j0t3: http://rdwolff.com/content/paul-krugman-shame-you-blogOct 08 23:27
TechrightsSocialTitle: Paul Krugman: Shame on You (Blog) | Professor Richard D. Wolff .::. Size~: 22.8 KBOct 08 23:27
schestowitzgood blogOct 08 23:28
schestowitzhttp://rdwolff.com/content/living-aloneOct 08 23:28
TechrightsSocialTitle: Living Alone | Professor Richard D. Wolff .::. Size~: 54.94 KBOct 08 23:29
schestowitz""Going Solo" describes the meteoric rise of people choosing to live alone. Today - for the first time since the census began counting in 1880 - more than half of American adults are single."Oct 08 23:29
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UvK3qeAEgI&feature=relatedOct 08 23:30
TechrightsSocialTitle: Saying Goodbye to Religion - YouTube .::. Size~: 168.6 KBOct 08 23:30
qu1j0t3then there is the meteoric rise of people moving back in with parents :)Oct 08 23:47

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